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| 00:43.22 | GAN8001 | is full of good food. |
| 00:49.57 | Bobbe | is full of cold, hard pizza |
| 00:50.41 | rapadura_man | Bobbe ai dentro |
| 00:51.29 | Bobbe | rapadura_man, ?? |
| 00:51.36 | Bobbe | inside where? |
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| 01:40.24 | mib_e139do | I am a newbie.I don't know how to get the code sample though changing sources.list.who can help me,thanks |
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| 01:41.10 | mib_e139do | who can give me a location |
| 01:41.45 | mib_e139do | anybody? |
| 01:42.10 | Firebird | code sample? |
| 01:42.31 | mib_e139do | yes |
| 01:42.38 | mib_e139do | maemo code sample |
| 01:44.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | what... like.. "GOTO 10"? |
| 01:44.21 | mib_e139do | i want to use apt to get code sample. |
| 01:45.03 | mib_e139do | what are you mean? |
| 01:45.12 | mib_e139do | GOTO 10? |
| 01:45.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | what do YOU mean |
| 01:45.36 | mib_e139do | yes |
| 01:46.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes |
| 01:46.23 | mib_e139do | My English is not very good |
| 01:46.26 | mib_e139do | Sorry |
| 01:46.36 | mib_e139do | I hope you can help me |
| 01:46.57 | mib_e139do | i just want to learn a little |
| 01:47.18 | mib_e139do | but i don't know how to begin. |
| 01:47.31 | mib_e139do | i can't get the code sample. |
| 01:56.50 | Firebird | mib_e139do, I don't think there is a sample code short of hello world in C for hildon gtk |
| 01:58.45 | GAN800 | can only hear chair squeaking on the Mer video. |
| 01:59.43 | Firebird | mib_e139do, http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/maemo_4-0_tutorial/ try that |
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| 02:38.54 | mib_nyqoh8 | how to install input method plugin.is it a file with .db extention name |
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| 02:41.20 | mib_nyqoh8 | In general,the package is a file with .deb. command 'dpkg -i' can install it,but how to install plugin like hildon input method plugin? |
| 02:41.26 | lolop | could someone here --with an env setup for building 770 kernel modules-- build the two modules needed to run compcache (http://code.google.com/p/compcache/)?? |
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| 03:12.30 | mib_nyqoh8 | how to install input method plugin.is it a file with .db extention name |
| 03:13.54 | Firebird | mib_nyqoh8, where did you get this file? |
| 03:19.22 | mib_nyqoh8 | code samples |
| 03:19.24 | mib_nyqoh8 | after making 'hildon input method plugin',there is a .so file |
| 03:19.31 | mib_nyqoh8 | how to install it |
| 03:19.38 | Firebird | sudo make install |
| 03:19.40 | mib_nyqoh8 | it is not .deb file |
| 03:19.51 | Firebird | how did you "make it" |
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| 03:21.02 | mib_nyqoh8 | i use eclipse and can't install |
| 03:21.17 | mib_nyqoh8 | eclipe generates no binery file |
| 03:22.45 | mib_nyqoh8 | The binary produced by gcc should be installed to path specified in hildon-control-panel pkg-config entry. This path can be obtained with pkg-config hildon-control-panel --variable=pluginlibdir. By default this is /usr/lib/hildon-control-panel. |
| 03:23.05 | mib_nyqoh8 | what does it mean? |
| 03:23.09 | mib_nyqoh8 | i can't understand clearly |
| 03:23.36 | Firebird | I think it already installed itself |
| 03:23.56 | mib_nyqoh8 | [sbox-CHINOOK_X86: ~] > gcc -shared `pkg-config gtk+-2.0 libosso --libs --cflags` applet.c -o libapplet.so |
| 03:24.13 | mib_nyqoh8 | maybe i can't see it |
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| 03:28.43 | hub | weird, I have bugs on the device I can't reproduce in QEMU :-( |
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| 03:32.48 | hub | btw how do you guys input text in the SDK with the keyboard when apparently the input-method just eat "return" |
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| 03:58.13 | reimor | hey, how can I compile Openmotif for maemo os2008 ? |
| 03:58.54 | hub | with the sdk |
| 03:59.30 | reimor | there's a tutorial? |
| 04:02.43 | hub | http://maemo.org/development/ |
| 04:03.58 | reimor | thanks, is it hard? |
| 04:04.14 | reimor | i only need to port an existent linux aplication to maemo... |
| 04:05.48 | hub | linux application and openmotif already are not very much compatible in the same sentence |
| 04:05.56 | stskeepsie | wow, these hotel rooms only have power enabled in the plugs if light is on .. O-o |
| 04:06.25 | reimor | sorry |
| 04:06.26 | hub | stskeepsie: like in most power saving aware hotels in europe I have stayed at in recent years |
| 04:06.50 | reimor | the application i need to run in maemo is called ftool, it uses openmotif lib... |
| 04:06.58 | stskeepsie | hub: bloody irritating if you want to charge tablets overnight |
| 04:07.01 | reimor | hub, can you help me? |
| 04:07.53 | hub | stskeepsie: the one I have seen required to use the keycard as a master switch |
| 04:08.10 | hub | stskeepsie: so it is when you were not in the room that it didn't work |
| 04:08.30 | hub | reimor: how do you want me to do that? |
| 04:08.43 | stskeepsie | hub: yeah that part is fine |
| 04:08.51 | stskeepsie | hub: but mine doesn't act liek that |
| 04:09.47 | stskeepsie | GAN800: yeah, you need to amplify it :/ |
| 04:09.54 | reimor | hub: would I need change any part of the code or its all about a command-line for compile? |
| 04:10.21 | hub | reimor: that I can't answer. I don't have enough information |
| 04:10.42 | reimor | thanks |
| 04:12.02 | reimor | hub, what is scratchbox? |
| 04:12.21 | hub | the build environment to cross compile and everything |
| 04:12.28 | hub | the documentation explain all of this |
| 04:12.43 | luke-jr | hub: all that does is encourage people to get 2 cards, and leave lights on |
| 04:13.15 | reimor | hub: can I install this on a vmware virtual machine? |
| 04:13.16 | hub | luke-jr: talking to the wrong person |
| 04:13.31 | hub | reimor: it is hosted on Linux |
| 04:13.49 | luke-jr | [23:07:53] <hub> stskeepsie: the one I have seen required to use the keycard as a master switch |
| 04:13.53 | hub | reimor: so unless you workstation does not run Linux already, you don't need a virtual machine |
| 04:13.58 | hub | luke-jr: and> |
| 04:14.13 | reimor | hub: my workstation is windows vista... |
| 04:14.14 | hub | luke-jr: again, talking to the wrong person. |
| 04:14.31 | hub | luke-jr: the hotel-desk is probably more appropriate |
| 04:14.48 | luke-jr | hub: I've never been in such an insane hotel |
| 04:14.50 | reimor | hub: will I need to conect n800 with linux? or can I send binaries via e-mail? |
| 04:15.10 | hub | reimor: it is explained in the documentation |
| 04:15.22 | luke-jr | wonders why anyone still runs Windows |
| 04:15.33 | reimor | thanks |
| 04:15.50 | hub | luke-jr: people love drugs |
| 04:17.17 | luke-jr | anyhow, night |
| 04:19.00 | hub | luke-jr: it is like using Motif today |
| 04:22.32 | reimor | hub: can you try to compile it for me? |
| 04:22.46 | reimor | ftp://ftp.ics.com/openmotif/2.3/2.3.2/openmotif-2.3.2.tar.gz |
| 04:23.10 | hub | reimor: I'm available for hire if that's what you want to ask me |
| 04:23.59 | reimor | hub: its not... i have no money ^^ |
| 04:24.08 | hub | neither have I |
| 04:24.22 | reimor | hub: i'm from brazil, no one here has money |
| 04:24.23 | reimor | hAHA |
| 04:24.39 | hub | I'm unemployed for several month |
| 04:24.42 | hub | same |
| 04:25.00 | reimor | =/ |
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| 04:26.48 | reimor | I'm trying to be a engineer (@university)... ftool is a app for structural calculus...so i'm trying to put this on n800 to use it @tests... |
| 04:27.13 | reimor | but i havent a distro installed... |
| 04:28.57 | reimor | which is better: multiboot or virtual machine for use maemo sdk? |
| 04:32.04 | hub | and from what I can gather, there is no source code for ftool |
| 04:33.12 | hub | so you are out of luck |
| 04:34.15 | reimor | :( |
| 04:34.27 | reimor | i'm screwed... |
| 04:34.44 | reimor | and what about Wine for maemo? |
| 04:34.50 | reimor | impossible? |
| 04:35.02 | hub | wine is not an emulator |
| 04:35.11 | hub | N800 = ARM |
| 04:35.15 | hub | Windows = X86 |
| 04:35.55 | reimor | :( |
| 04:35.59 | reimor | any idea? |
| 04:36.47 | hub | use something that is supported by the developer of the program |
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| 04:39.00 | reimor | is possible to install windows @ n800 ? |
| 04:39.13 | reimor | inside something like dosbox |
| 04:40.18 | hub | no |
| 04:40.27 | hub | again, as I said |
| 04:40.31 | hub | not the same architecture |
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| 04:41.35 | reimor | but dosbox emulate i386 inside armel, or not? |
| 04:42.41 | hub | why do you want that on a N800? |
| 04:42.47 | hub | why not using a real PC instead |
| 04:44.43 | reimor | i need this in class, cant use a laptop |
| 04:45.54 | hub | if you can't use a laptop that means you don't need it |
| 04:45.57 | hub | don't you think? |
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| 05:33.54 | mib_rqas1x | set /apps/osso/inputmethod/input_method_plugin GConf to himExample_vkb so that it will be loaded by the UI. what does it mean? |
| 05:34.20 | mib_rqas1x | about input method. |
| 05:34.51 | mib_rqas1x | anybody here can help me? |
| 05:40.13 | timeless_mbp | when's checkout? |
| 05:41.48 | rm_you|shower | no idea? >_> |
| 05:41.52 | rm_you|shower | wish i knew |
| 05:43.48 | Stskeeps_ | 10 probably |
| 05:43.59 | mib_rqas1x | maybe i find something http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Maemo:_Using_GConf |
| 05:44.39 | timeless_mbp | are people going from the conf to the airport or back via the hotel? |
| 05:44.53 | Stskeeps_ | i'm not returning to the hotel personally |
| 05:45.42 | Stskeeps_ | but then again i'm going by train later today :P |
| 05:45.55 | rm_you|shower | yeah when is everyone leaving? |
| 05:46.06 | rm_you|shower | gotta be an hour or two early for flights, right? |
| 05:46.14 | rm_you|shower | so is everyone's flight at like 10pm? |
| 05:46.27 | rm_you|shower | or will people be leaving at like 2? |
| 05:46.34 | Stskeeps_ | think it ranges |
| 05:46.50 | Stskeeps_ | and yeah, you have to be there before check in closes :P |
| 05:47.21 | rm_you | well, i'm thinking about breakfast... |
| 05:47.23 | rm_you | anyone else? |
| 05:47.31 | RST38h | rm_you <== evidently done with the semester =] |
| 05:47.46 | rm_you | RST38h: lol? yes |
| 05:48.25 | Stskeeps_ | he's busy hacking away like the rest of us (except me, who is putting up a bad example with having a lot of meetings :P) |
| 05:48.48 | rm_you | lol |
| 05:49.04 | rm_you | johnx not awake yet? |
| 05:49.10 | rm_you | he said he'd be on irc |
| 05:49.12 | rm_you | ima knock |
| 05:49.25 | Stskeeps_ | breakfast at 8.30? |
| 05:49.42 | RST38h | isn't hacking much nowadays |
| 05:50.26 | RST38h | still need to figure out what goes on with ti73, etc |
| 05:52.05 | Stskeeps_ | glances at the weird hotel room coffee |
| 05:53.31 | rm_you | starts at 7:30? |
| 05:53.36 | rm_you | prolly go grab it at 8 |
| 05:53.48 | rm_you | then come back and check out, then head to conf |
| 05:54.16 | rm_you | maybe hack some at the table :P |
| 05:54.50 | Stskeeps_ | starts at 6.30 yeah |
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| 05:56.11 | timeless_mbp | oh wait a second |
| 05:56.21 | timeless_mbp | what time zone am i in? |
| 05:56.42 | timeless_mbp | this mac thought it was in HEL |
| 05:56.49 | rm_you | lol |
| 05:56.57 | rm_you | starts at7:30 on weekends |
| 05:57.01 | rm_you | lol timeless |
| 05:57.14 | rm_you | it is like 8:00 now i think? |
| 05:57.32 | rm_you | i'm going to go to breakfast, will see anyone else there eventually |
| 05:57.32 | Stskeeps_ | yeah |
| 05:57.36 | Stskeeps_ | enjoy |
| 05:57.50 | Stskeeps_ | i gotta shower and such first :P |
| 05:58.06 | timeless_mbp | Stskeeps_: i think i'll follow your plan |
| 05:58.25 | timeless_mbp | but i want to catch up on a bit of mail first (wakeup, shower, eat, pack, travel)? |
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| 06:01.38 | Stskeeps_ | is really enjoying his last.fm subscription when he's away from home. |
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| 06:04.16 | Stskeeps_ | also, whoever has their tablet locating my phone for internet should die. i had to turn my BT off F:P |
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| 06:07.14 | rm_you | hrm, i hope they refill the meat trays... |
| 06:11.02 | Stskeeps_ | say when they refill and i'll come down |
| 06:11.02 | Stskeeps_ | :P |
| 06:11.24 | rm_you | lol |
| 06:13.46 | Stskeeps_ | ... why do i have two mozilla/maemo developer weekend tshirts |
| 06:14.12 | rm_you | hacker!! |
| 06:14.31 | Stskeeps_ | i guess they must have been glued together when i took one :P |
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| 06:17.51 | thux | morning |
| 06:22.46 | timeless_mbp | Stskeeps_: heh (re BT) |
| 06:25.42 | Stskeeps_ | rm_you: meat refilled yet? ;) |
| 06:26.31 | rm_you | dunno, minute |
| 06:27.29 | timeless_mbp | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:29.55 | radic | why is my N800 rebooting...? |
| 06:30.17 | Stskeeps_ | radic: you wrote "reboot" in a console |
| 06:30.37 | radic | Stskeeps_: no, I pluged in the charger |
| 06:30.54 | rm_you | refilled |
| 06:31.18 | Stskeeps_ | yay |
| 06:32.18 | radic | I dosn't changed anything the last few days, now It's rebooting... |
| 06:32.21 | radic | hmm |
| 06:32.43 | radic | I startet it and now it halted and starts again... |
| 06:39.40 | radic | Stskeeps_: how can I enable the logging to /var/log/ messages, syslog and dmesg? |
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| 06:43.27 | stskeepsie | install sysklogd |
| 06:43.33 | stskeepsie | mm breakfast |
| 06:44.02 | bacon | need coffee |
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| 06:48.25 | timeless_mbp | ooh, i can see the breakfast at the end of my bugmail |
| 06:49.38 | radic | bacon: Why coffee? beer ftw! |
| 06:49.58 | bacon | heh radic, not a bad idea |
| 06:50.15 | bacon | but beer doesnt taste nice with milk n sugar |
| 06:51.55 | radic | bacon: you trink your beer withe milk and sugar? |
| 06:57.40 | bacon | yes radic |
| 06:57.48 | bacon | normally hot too |
| 07:10.13 | timeless_mbp | anyone still around for a late breakfast? |
| 07:14.07 | stskeepsie | we're still here |
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| 07:20.11 | timeless_mbp | ok, coming |
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| 07:24.15 | stskeepsie | wb qwerty12 |
| 07:24.21 | qwerty12 | Thank you |
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| 07:31.10 | usicow | I'm trying to run a python script on my n810, and I'm sure there's an error in there but when I run it, it just drops to the next line without showing any output.. can anyone help me work out whats wrong? |
| 07:31.31 | usicow | The file is: |
| 07:31.32 | usicow | -rw------- 1 user root 879 May 31 09:28 wake.py |
| 07:31.39 | qwerty12 | Do you have python-launcher installed? |
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| 07:32.12 | usicow | no |
| 07:32.18 | usicow | I'll install that now |
| 07:32.26 | qwerty12 | No, don't bother |
| 07:32.29 | usicow | oh |
| 07:32.32 | usicow | damn :) |
| 07:32.39 | usicow | its already started |
| 07:32.52 | qwerty12 | it supresses output (well, prints it to a root terminal instead >.<) if you have it running :P |
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| 07:33.54 | usicow | ok.. I'll just uninstall it.. and am I right in running it by just sudo ./wake.py? |
| 07:34.49 | qwerty12 | If you've installed it, just run the program with "sudo python2.5 ./wake.py" - bypasses the launcher |
| 07:36.07 | qwerty12 | mikkov_: ping :) |
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| 07:36.40 | usicow | strange.. I've made a new file with just 2 lines in it: |
| 07:36.44 | usicow | #! /usr/bin/python |
| 07:36.45 | usicow | print "Hello World" |
| 07:36.53 | usicow | and then I try to run it via: |
| 07:36.55 | usicow | sudo python2.5 ./helloworld.py |
| 07:36.59 | usicow | and I get no output |
| 07:37.02 | qwerty12 | Oh, you do have python-launcher installed probably. |
| 07:37.12 | qwerty12 | Change python to python2.5 and see if that works |
| 07:38.18 | usicow | still no good.. very strange.. |
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| 07:40.03 | usicow | hmm even this just drops me to the next line: |
| 07:40.05 | usicow | sudo apt-get install python2.5-runtime |
| 07:40.17 | usicow | and if I do sudo ls -la I get |
| 07:40.19 | usicow | root is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 07:44.22 | usicow | ah.. |
| 07:44.28 | usicow | i got it.. thanks for your help qwerty12 |
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| 08:01.10 | timeless_mbp | anyone still @hotel? |
| 08:02.57 | doc|home | @home |
| 08:04.01 | timeless_mbp | heads out |
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| 08:15.39 | stskeepsie | is at the spot |
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| 08:39.58 | X-Fade | Mooooorning! |
| 08:40.57 | stskeepsie | morning ! |
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| 08:45.05 | radic | stskeepsie: I pluged in an another charger |
| 08:45.52 | radic | now is displayed on the bootscreen "Rescuing software update" in red |
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| 08:50.37 | radic | damen fuck.... |
| 08:50.54 | radic | why is my device rebooting after few minutes? |
| 08:52.31 | andre__ | jeremiah_, around (physically)? |
| 08:55.46 | timeless_mbp | is @maemo-copenhagen |
| 08:56.02 | mikkov_ | qwerty12: hi |
| 08:56.57 | qwerty12 | mikkov_: hey, I was just wondering, isn't it easier to chown (for game data files that are installed to memory card) *after* dh_fixperms rather than excluding the folder? :P :) |
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| 09:00.00 | mikkov_ | I don't know, but I don't see there any difference either :) |
| 09:00.55 | qwerty12 | Yeah, when I tried it, I had to chmod too which was annoying (games wouldn't start because it "couldn't find" the files) :) |
| 09:01.21 | qwerty12 | I'm just wondering if it'd be faster to chown afterwards, I'll have to try it out sometime |
| 09:01.29 | EdLin | what kind of SD card(s) does the N800 use? |
| 09:01.33 | qwerty12 | And thanks again for your memory card stuff |
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| 09:02.26 | qwerty12 | EdLin: Full SD |
| 09:02.32 | qwerty12 | MiniSD with adapter |
| 09:02.45 | EdLin | qwerty12: SDHC or just SD? |
| 09:02.57 | qwerty12 | EdLin: SDHC, I'm using an 8GB right now |
| 09:03.02 | EdLin | cool |
| 09:03.12 | thopiekar | hi all |
| 09:03.38 | EdLin | qwerty12: I'm thinking of getting an N800 from ebay rather than a new n810. Thoughts? |
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| 09:04.31 | EdLin | thopiekar: hi |
| 09:05.08 | qwerty12 | EdLin: Sounds OK, the screen on the N810 is a lot better in sunlight (the N800 one is unusable in sunlight) and if you don't need a keyboard, then N800 sounds perfect |
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| 09:05.36 | EdLin | yeah, I can get an n800 for under $150 on ebay. I'm thinking about it. |
| 09:05.58 | EdLin | ebay prices for n810 are near the cost of a new one now. |
| 09:06.29 | EdLin | I do have a need for using it in sunlight.... |
| 09:06.35 | EdLin | not always, but sometimes |
| 09:06.43 | JesperHansen | only $150? Sounds like you'll receive an empty box |
| 09:06.56 | EdLin | JesperHansen: several offers are less than $150. |
| 09:07.05 | EdLin | unless everyone's trying to gyp me. ;-) |
| 09:07.13 | JesperHansen | More empty boxes! |
| 09:07.18 | EdLin | lol |
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| 09:07.37 | EdLin | is eBay really that bad? :) |
| 09:07.50 | thux | in direct sunlight with n800 :P |
| 09:07.57 | qwerty12 | EdLin: I'm not going to lie to you, the N800 screen is unusable in sunlight :P. With brightness on max, you can just about make out the screen and that's if you squint :P |
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| 09:08.33 | EdLin | qwerty12: what's keyboard input like with one without a keyboard? |
| 09:10.02 | EdLin | qwerty12: is it possible to do light IRC with one, for example? how about typing a web address? I already have a smartphone with a lousy screen but usable keyboard, so I don't need email typing much. |
| 09:10.09 | thux | i liked touchscreen used to it with ipaq |
| 09:10.23 | EdLin | I have a Palm TX. |
| 09:10.35 | qwerty12 | EdLin: I do IRC with mine using the stylus keyboard :) |
| 09:11.00 | Myrtti | I've got longer fingernails in my thumbs to use irssi with |
| 09:11.01 | EdLin | qwerty12: are you doing that now? :) |
| 09:11.01 | Myrtti | :-D |
| 09:11.07 | Myrtti | stylus nails ⥠|
| 09:11.14 | rm_you | lol |
| 09:11.16 | qwerty12 | EdLin: no :) |
| 09:11.47 | qwerty12 | Myrtti: XChat FTW :P (Although, I'm using mIRC with NNScript right now >.<) |
| 09:11.57 | Myrtti | and I especially wanted N800 for not having the keyboard :-D |
| 09:12.00 | EdLin | so the main drawback with the N800 is dim screen, any other drawbacks? |
| 09:12.04 | Myrtti | is the odd one out, in more than one way |
| 09:12.23 | qwerty12 | EdLin: you don't get a multicoloured LED like the N810 has :P |
| 09:12.43 | EdLin | lol |
| 09:13.23 | thux | i use remote irssi with n800 |
| 09:13.27 | EdLin | OK, I'll have to think it over. Being able to save $75 or so is mighty tempting. |
| 09:13.33 | qwerty12 | You don't get a built in GPS either, like the N810, but I'm not sure if that's a disadvantage... |
| 09:13.42 | qwerty12 | *like you do with the N810 |
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| 09:14.50 | EdLin | buy.com is offering the n810 for $199 with free shipping though..... |
| 09:15.27 | Myrtti | I'd suspect a separate gps is a bit more useful than the inbuilt one, but I wouldn't know? |
| 09:15.28 | EdLin | still, a lot of the bids on ebay are for even less than $125. |
| 09:16.02 | cosmo | the 810 gps is bad but usable |
| 09:16.25 | Myrtti | about the same then than in my N95 :-) |
| 09:16.27 | cosmo | it takes minutes to get a fix but after that it works well enough for navigation |
| 09:17.17 | cosmo | and and most people don't want to carry a bt gps in pocket "just in case" |
| 09:17.50 | thux | does n810 have agps? |
| 09:17.54 | EdLin | cosmo: yeah, I'll already have two devices with the nit and the smartphone. More is too much. |
| 09:18.00 | qwerty12 | thux: yep |
| 09:18.28 | EdLin | though I'll have a kindle 1 sometimes with me in my backpack.... |
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| 09:18.50 | EdLin | speaking of which, what are ebooks like on the NIT? |
| 09:19.33 | EdLin | does it support epub? mobi? pdf? |
| 09:19.56 | stskeepsie | look at fbreader page |
| 09:20.33 | qwerty12 | PDF is supported by the xpdf based pdf viewer that comes with the device and the poppler based Evince which is installable from the application manager after enabling Extras |
| 09:20.56 | qwerty12 | But yeah, see what formats FBReader supports for the rest :/ |
| 09:21.45 | EdLin | oh, cool, fbreader supports epub and might be able to read my non-stand-alone palm pilot ebooks too. (The stand-alone ones might work with the Garnet VM, yes?) |
| 09:22.15 | qwerty12 | I think so, there was a method discovered that lets you access your memory cards through Garnet VM |
| 09:22.28 | EdLin | qwerty12: does that work well? |
| 09:23.05 | rm_you | qwerty12: is there a nice kernel packaged up with rotation and mmc and all the patches I need ? :P |
| 09:23.38 | qwerty12 | EdLin: I can see the files on my memory card and manupulate them, but I've never used Garnet VM for long enough to have ever installed a book reader. http://talk.maemo.org/forumdisplay.php?f=36 should have some experiences with Garnet VM |
| 09:24.01 | qwerty12 | rm_you: Bleh, use the Mer kernel, no 48MHz SD card speed but stable and featureful :P |
| 09:25.13 | qwerty12 | Awesome, Flashgot supports blip.tv. |
| 09:25.19 | qwerty12 | downloads stskeepsie's presentation :) |
| 09:30.57 | rkirti | follows suit |
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| 09:42.34 | thopiekar | updated streamripper |
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| 09:45.57 | rmt | http://corporatism.org/repo/ for my image viewer (and first debanized maemo software) |
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| 09:46.21 | rmt | I use ImageMagick to resize and rotate images so they fit the screen well. |
| 09:51.23 | stskeepsie | qwerty12: it's on there in ogv too i think |
| 09:51.58 | qwerty12 | I have to install some plugin or something, can't be arsed :) |
| 10:00.40 | rm_you| | qwerty12: hints on installing the Mer kernel in ITOS/ |
| 10:02.04 | qwerty12 | The last image I done was here: http://trac.tspre.org/qwerty12/mer_kernel/mer_kernel_2.6.21-zImage_boot_from_rootfs.tar (I dunno if Mer people added other patches etc) |
| 10:02.23 | qwerty12 | Untar, become root, fiasco-flasher -f -k <path to zImage>, reboot |
| 10:02.52 | qwerty12 | It's not tied to Mer, it works fine with Maemo, it's just called that because I gathered up patches for Mer |
| 10:03.11 | stskeepsie | i actually cleaned up and put it in a kernel source |
| 10:03.17 | stskeepsie | so it's built automatically now :) |
| 10:03.35 | qwerty12 | Using quilt? :) Either way, that's awesome :) |
| 10:03.51 | stskeepsie | not directly ;) |
| 10:03.56 | stskeepsie | it will be cleaned up for it |
| 10:04.10 | qwerty12 | Heh, where is the package? |
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| 10:08.07 | rm_you| | hrm, hope this boots :P |
| 10:08.46 | qwerty12 | if (user == "rm_you") blow_up_and_die(); |
| 10:08.51 | rm_you| | lol |
| 10:09.01 | rm_you| | doesn't look like it is booting >_< |
| 10:09.15 | qwerty12 | Oh shit, wrong one |
| 10:09.23 | qwerty12 | near a linux computer? |
| 10:09.26 | rm_you| | yes |
| 10:09.28 | rm_you| | lol |
| 10:09.53 | qwerty12 | Flash this one with flasher-3.0 :P >.<: http://trac.tspre.org/qwerty12/mer_kernel/mer_kernel_2.6.21-zImage_boot_from_initfs.tar |
| 10:10.09 | rm_you| | lolhow? |
| 10:10.38 | qwerty12 | untar, run flasher-3.0 -f -k <path to zImage> and hold home and connect up N800 |
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| 10:11.17 | rm_you| | k |
| 10:11.26 | rm_you| | does it reboot automatically? |
| 10:11.59 | rm_you| | ah bootmenu back :P |
| 10:11.59 | qwerty12 | Shove -R on the end of your flasher-3.0 command line if you want it to reboot when it's finished flashing |
| 10:12.00 | rm_you| | woo |
| 10:12.18 | rm_you| | good to know you can fix breaking the kernel from an unbootable state :P |
| 10:12.58 | qwerty12 | Oh fuck, aptitiude compiled for Maemo using cs2007 toolchain |
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| 10:42.11 | zaynyatyi | hi to all |
| 10:43.20 | zaynyatyi | does anyone have luck running maemo5 beta on opensuse milestone 11.2? |
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| 10:49.53 | andre__ | zaynyatyi, posting the concrete issues you have (e.g. errors) to pastebin.com might help |
| 10:50.12 | andre__ | but it's known that it's only tested on debian and ubuntu. you will likely have problems with fedora or suse... |
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| 10:53.10 | Noma | what's the easiest way to test android on n810? |
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| 10:57.35 | kkrusty | http://codepad.org/PkSZbpEC |
| 10:58.11 | kkrusty | does it have to save the password as plaintext? |
| 10:58.40 | keesj | Noma: there was an installer for android at one point |
| 10:59.07 | Noma | i think that was quite old release? |
| 10:59.12 | keesj | yup |
| 11:00.08 | Noma | how about the harder way, does it need some "guru skills" to install and uninstall? |
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| 11:00.52 | thopiekar | have you thought about enabling copiz-effects on tablets by ecomorph of e17? |
| 11:01.17 | thopiekar | http://code.google.com/p/itask-module/wiki/Stuff |
| 11:01.32 | qwerty12 | Noma: http://guug.org/nit/nitdroid/ has instructions as well as being the home of the most fullfeatured port |
| 11:01.50 | Meizirkki | thopiekar: ecomorph will not work with Xomap |
| 11:02.11 | thopiekar | Meizirkki: :| |
| 11:02.44 | Meizirkki | thopiekar: but in Mer.. you can test if it works |
| 11:02.55 | Meizirkki | mer has software acceleration |
| 11:02.55 | thopiekar | :P |
| 11:03.06 | thopiekar | 3D!? |
| 11:03.14 | Meizirkki | really slow |
| 11:03.23 | Meizirkki | but it's supported |
| 11:03.43 | Meizirkki | 800x480 3D game is 2fps |
| 11:03.53 | thopiekar | ... like maemo.. |
| 11:03.59 | keesj | software acceleration is something that makes the hardware go faster |
| 11:04.27 | thopiekar | think about the youtube vids about the playstation1 emu in maemo.. |
| 11:05.10 | Meizirkki | thopiekar: Xomap is faster that Xorg atm. but Xorg has OpenGL support :P |
| 11:05.22 | Meizirkki | via sw accel |
| 11:05.41 | Meizirkki | games like bzflag will not even start if using Xomap |
| 11:05.48 | thopiekar | :| the damn thing a need for mixxx on maemo (tabletDJ).. |
| 11:05.54 | keesj | Copenhagen is pretty cool |
| 11:06.25 | derf | Did you go see the mermaid? |
| 11:06.26 | thopiekar | I hate it that nokia hasn't managed to enable opengl on tablets.. |
| 11:06.44 | keesj | derf: nope , I did see Mer |
| 11:06.52 | derf | Good enough. |
| 11:07.28 | keesj | Also saw/touched some next gen development units:p |
| 11:10.59 | keesj | they are black. and pretty close to what I expected |
| 11:12.38 | Pavlov | jeremiah_: http://drkscrtlv.livejournal.com/301585.html |
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| 11:13.46 | jeremiah_ | Thanks Pavlov! |
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| 11:15.09 | keesj | In an update that was posted a month after the initial discussion, Chrome developer Evan Martin described the Linux port as a "511MB executable that brings up an empty window. |
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| 11:41.25 | andre__ | jeremiah_, ping (again), wherever you are :) |
| 11:43.55 | marcell_ | andre__: he is up here in the 5th floor |
| 11:44.44 | andre__ | ah :) |
| 11:46.21 | t_s_o | heh, another pim suite... |
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| 11:54.59 | jeremiah_ | Okay - I think we are going to do lightning talks now maemians |
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| 12:07.55 | timeless_mbp | is the wireless here mostly dead? :( |
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| 12:10.31 | X-Fade | Yeah, not great :( |
| 12:10.44 | Pavlov | not great at all heh |
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| 12:36.07 | lbt | ok, so where's the wiji page for the coding competition? |
| 12:36.25 | lbt | and who tooj my j jey |
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| 12:55.56 | lopz | hola |
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| 13:34.12 | X-Fade | So, running these apps on the fremantle device really gives you a nice impression :) |
| 13:34.25 | X-Fade | Numptyphysics just flies! |
| 13:35.36 | jeremiah_ | To be honest, I am pretty impressed with the new device. |
| 13:36.47 | Myrtti | TEASERS |
| 13:36.52 | rm_you | i wonder if i posted in time on the developer contest page :P |
| 13:36.59 | rm_you | Myrtti: lol yeah, it is pretty cool :) |
| 13:37.14 | rm_you | Myrtti: could maybe actually port one of the needlessly 3d knitting apps :P |
| 13:37.19 | X-Fade | I really like the cripness of the screen. |
| 13:37.32 | Myrtti | meh |
| 13:37.42 | X-Fade | The touch part is also a lot more accurate than the previous devices had. |
| 13:38.05 | Myrtti | goes to some other channel, since not feeling very amiable today |
| 13:40.40 | rm_you | :( |
| 13:40.41 | X-Fade | Typing on the keyboard also is easier than on N810. Even though the keys are a bit smaller. |
| 13:41.32 | stskeepsie | to be accurate, this isn't the new device, it's a development board, keep this in mind. |
| 13:41.52 | rm_you | yeah... dunno how the real keyboard will be... no one will even confirm that it HAS one |
| 13:42.03 | X-Fade | stskeepsie: It only means that the actual device will be even better :) |
| 13:42.22 | rm_you | pretty sure it will tho... "unofficial info" says it will... but dunno if it will even be similar |
| 13:42.24 | X-Fade | rm_you: the developer device should be feature complete. |
| 13:42.40 | stskeepsie | well it's a platform developer device, which makes sense |
| 13:42.53 | X-Fade | No use testing a keybord when there will not be one in the end ;) |
| 13:42.56 | rm_you | i heard some *interesting* things on the keyboard topic... |
| 13:43.11 | jeremiah_ | I thought the keyboard worked really well |
| 13:43.28 | rm_you | X-Fade: not testing the keyboard, using the keyboard for testing :P |
| 13:43.34 | X-Fade | And the cursor keys placed on the right helped too :D |
| 13:43.41 | X-Fade | Gaming! |
| 13:43.51 | rm_you | lol yeah... that's what i've heard bad things about |
| 13:44.12 | stskeepsie | esdx ftw |
| 13:44.30 | jeremiah_ | Built in bacon aroma is a plus too. |
| 13:44.35 | X-Fade | stskeepsie: for lefties :) |
| 13:44.52 | X-Fade | jeremiah_: That was just because lcuk had your device first :) |
| 13:44.53 | stskeepsie | hehe |
| 13:45.21 | jeremiah_ | timeless_mbp: This is a Mozmae conference, not an Apple conference! :) |
| 13:45.33 | timeless_mbp | :( |
| 13:45.37 | jeremiah_ | :p |
| 13:45.46 | Myrtti | wants built-in falafel aroma |
| 13:46.02 | X-Fade | Myrtti: That will cost you extra.. |
| 13:46.24 | X-Fade | 1 buy device, buy falafel -> mix :) |
| 13:46.41 | Myrtti | looks at jeremiah_ disgusted, bacon aroma, bah. |
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| 13:48.48 | rm_you | like that not every localization of the keyboard will have all of the arrow keys O_o |
| 13:48.49 | rm_you | that would be... interesting. |
| 13:49.07 | stskeepsie | keyboard remap |
| 13:49.08 | stskeepsie | :P |
| 13:49.14 | X-Fade | rm_you: That doesn't sound right? |
| 13:49.19 | X-Fade | rm_you: Or even sane? :) |
| 13:49.32 | rm_you | sane, no, right, supposedly |
| 13:50.30 | rm_you | we'll see :P |
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| 14:01.59 | luke-jr | hmm, Maemo won't boot with USB plugged in |
| 14:02.25 | rm_you | it probably thinks you want to flash it or something <_< |
| 14:03.21 | Pustelnik | scrobbling to lastfm in YouAmp doesn't work generaly or it's only me? |
| 14:09.16 | kkrusty | lol: googled "howto canola plugin" got "how to make condoms with canola oil" |
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| 14:16.47 | rm_you | lol |
| 14:18.37 | GAN800 | yawns loudly. |
| 14:18.53 | rm_you | sup gan |
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| 14:19.40 | stskeepsie | lo GAN8001 |
| 14:19.44 | GAN800 | Too lazy to get out of bed and thankful for tablets. |
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| 14:20.04 | rm_you | :P |
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| 14:31.59 | andre__ | bye copenhagen :) |
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| 14:54.02 | thux | timeless_mbp: you have relocated from hel(l) |
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| 15:01.59 | Macer | hm. son is still passed out |
| 15:02.09 | Macer | should get a few more minutes of sleep before he wakes up |
| 15:03.01 | stskeepsie | some stuff to take home from the maemo developer weekend (be civil!): http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=29270 |
| 15:05.05 | Macer | there was a maemo developer weekend? |
| 15:05.26 | Macer | was it sponsered by nokia or something? |
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| 15:06.18 | stskeepsie | yeah |
| 15:06.25 | stskeepsie | mozilla/maemo (& mer) |
| 15:06.28 | stskeepsie | & fennec |
| 15:06.39 | ShadowJK | did you get to try fennec on their development board? |
| 15:06.47 | stskeepsie | yes, it's in the post, read it |
| 15:07.22 | johnx | hey qwerty12 :) |
| 15:07.35 | Macer | how many people were there? |
| 15:07.37 | qwerty12 | hi johnx, how's it going? :) |
| 15:07.43 | johnx | pretty good :) |
| 15:07.50 | qwerty12 | awesome :) |
| 15:08.17 | johnx | and you? |
| 15:08.35 | ShadowJK | clicks reload frantically until a post appears |
| 15:08.46 | qwerty12 | johnx: Yeah, I'm all good, just endlessly browsing Talk :P |
| 15:09.10 | johnx | heh, I've mostly been inactive in talk. it was cutting down on my mer time |
| 15:09.11 | ShadowJK | hey did anyone notice minimalistic theme has gigantic fonts now? :/ |
| 15:09.32 | ShadowJK | finds himself browsing with the regular theme now because it fits more text per page even with the big sidebar thing |
| 15:15.07 | rmt | http://corporatism.org/repo/ - now added zipview. |
| 15:15.33 | rmt | (Like Comix or cbrviewer, but only for libarchive supported formats) |
| 15:20.47 | GAN8001 | johnx, [URL=""][/URL] ;) |
| 15:22.16 | GAN8001 | johnx, s/It is not now or ever will be/It is not now, nor will it ever be/ |
| 15:22.25 | X-Fade | GAN8001 missed all the action.. again.. |
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| 15:22.47 | johnx | GAN8001: kthx. Just be glad I didn't call it Freeeeemantle :> |
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| 15:23.03 | GAN8001 | johnx, copy editing is what I do. :P |
| 15:23.10 | X-Fade | johnx: Seen that one pop up of a few slides yesterday :) |
| 15:23.25 | X-Fade | s/of/on/ |
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| 15:53.15 | keesj | drinking beer and thinking about the summit |
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| 15:55.45 | lbt | drinking sprite and laughing at timeless |
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| 15:56.36 | lbt | who looked at his watch and said "my flight leaves in an hour".... and then left rather quickly asking for the Danish word for "cab" |
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| 16:20.52 | timelys | So, i cleared security and am buying souveniess |
| 16:21.24 | StsN800 | woo, congrats |
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| 16:27.45 | timelys | Ihave a gate too but have one more thing to do :-( |
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| 16:33.36 | StsN800 | lo lardman! ceremony went well? |
| 16:33.41 | lardman | yes thanks |
| 16:33.54 | lardman | all went without a hitch, and the weather was lovely and sunny too :) |
| 16:34.34 | kkrusty | I cant find pycurl in pymaemo |
| 16:34.38 | lardman | You still at the Danish weekend? |
| 16:34.38 | StsN800 | congrats! now go see johnx's talk post if you didn't already :> |
| 16:34.51 | StsN800 | on way home |
| 16:34.58 | lardman | ok, will check my backlog of emails/Talk/etc |
| 16:35.03 | lardman | Was it good? |
| 16:35.11 | StsN800 | brilliant |
| 16:35.27 | lardman | great :), sorry I couldn't make it |
| 16:35.30 | qwerty12 | lardman: congratulations! |
| 16:35.35 | StsN800 | you'll know partly why when you see the post |
| 16:35.44 | kkrusty | any pymaemo developers here? |
| 16:36.11 | lardman | StsN800: cool, ok |
| 16:37.51 | lardman | from the thread titles it looks like lot's happened in my absence |
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| 16:38.39 | StsN800 | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=29270 |
| 16:38.48 | GAN8001 | lardman, yeah, congrats, lardman. |
| 16:38.55 | lardman | thanks Ryan |
| 16:39.08 | lardman | StsN800: reading now |
| 16:41.28 | lardman | interesting |
| 16:41.34 | timelys | I found the :-):-( gag okico |
| 16:42.04 | timelys | Nokians |
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| 16:45.42 | GAN8001 | Damn alcohol-free mouthwash ruined my taste buds. |
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| 16:46.10 | GAN8001 | Salt tastes sweet. . . . |
| 16:46.50 | lardman | lol |
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| 17:00.13 | StsN800 | yawns |
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| 17:03.48 | Guest2733_659 | anyone know how i can see how much time an application be dowloaded from extra repo? |
| 17:04.34 | StsN800 | how many times it was dl'ed ? |
| 17:04.40 | Guest2733_659 | yes |
| 17:05.18 | rmt | yawns. |
| 17:05.24 | StsN800 | not sure. i know maemo.org downloads has it |
| 17:05.28 | StsN800 | lo rmt |
| 17:05.36 | Guest2733_659 | yes i know... |
| 17:05.52 | Guest2733_659 | i try to find a way to know how mucl click but from extra only |
| 17:06.00 | Guest2733_659 | any stats page? or others? |
| 17:06.11 | GAN800 | downloads.maemo.org |
| 17:06.38 | Guest2733_659 | ok so this counter on this page incluse extra click too? |
| 17:06.42 | GAN800 | Not much point in going to the food fest tonight if I can't taste salt. . . . :( |
| 17:06.59 | GAN800 | It's downloads from the repo. |
| 17:07.15 | Guest2733_659 | hum |
| 17:07.43 | Guest2733_659 | so this counter include click on maemo.org and install from repo too? |
| 17:07.48 | fnordianslip | GAN800: could try MSG + salt |
| 17:07.55 | Guest2733_659 | i need to confirm that iam not shure about this one |
| 17:08.45 | GAN800 | Tried straight salt. Tasted sweet. |
| 17:09.05 | GAN800 | Clicks from maemo.org ARE downloads from the repo. |
| 17:09.13 | fnordianslip | hows the sugar taste? |
| 17:09.19 | GAN800 | Normal. |
| 17:09.28 | fnordianslip | hmm |
| 17:09.40 | Guest2733_659 | ok ok cool |
| 17:09.46 | Guest2733_659 | tx to this nice info |
| 17:09.48 | Guest2733_659 | but |
| 17:09.49 | Guest2733_659 | in fact |
| 17:10.21 | Guest2733_659 | my application just be uploaded to extra last nite...but before...i got a 50 clicks allready.... |
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| 17:10.46 | Guest2733_659 | so its confuse about if its really all click whith click include from extra |
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| 17:12.31 | StsN800 | what app? |
| 17:12.52 | mikkov_ | download numbers from repository are synced to d.m.o counters about once a week |
| 17:13.17 | Guest2733_659 | ok |
| 17:13.24 | Guest2733_659 | nice rspond here mikkov |
| 17:13.31 | Guest2733_659 | that what i supposed |
| 17:13.33 | Guest2733_659 | cool |
| 17:13.59 | Guest2733_659 | Sts : its my Borg theme |
| 17:14.05 | Guest2733_659 | very humbly |
| 17:14.42 | StsN800 | many tablet owners are star trek fans.. |
| 17:14.56 | Guest2733_659 | that why i build a borg one |
| 17:15.08 | Guest2733_659 | sounds and startup appli come soon to complete |
| 17:15.14 | Guest2733_659 | héhé |
| 17:15.17 | StsN800 | hehe neat |
| 17:15.35 | Guest2733_659 | try it and let me know on the maemo.org what you think about it |
| 17:15.48 | Guest2733_659 | its already in extra under hildon-borg-theme |
| 17:16.08 | labaudio | héhé |
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| 17:39.07 | sin18 | is anyone else still having issues with google street maps repository (on maemo mapper - diablo) ? |
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| 18:14.16 | GeneralAntilles | Ha, qwerty12_N800, is that a real mug? :P |
| 18:14.28 | qwerty12_N800 | GeneralAntilles: yes :P |
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| 18:23.38 | GeneralAntilles | Now lardman has a picture to track you down with. :P |
| 18:24.19 | rm_you | oh, pic of qwerty? :P |
| 18:24.25 | qwerty12_N800 | Hah! |
| 18:24.28 | rm_you | lol |
| 18:24.47 | rm_you | just checked in to our hostel |
| 18:24.59 | StsN800 | lotsa girls? |
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| 18:26.47 | StsN800 | GeneralAntilles, no beagle included, but it is a rough birds nest of components in a fugly box;) |
| 18:28.29 | rm_you | StsN800: actually yes lol |
| 18:28.29 | StsN800 | so it has all stuff you'd expect a m5 device to have |
| 18:30.12 | rm_you | StsN800: like, a ton. srsly. >< |
| 18:30.33 | StsN800 | rm_you, party time |
| 18:30.39 | rm_you | lol |
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| 18:30.59 | iphands | does anyone here have a build environment already setup for the nokia 770 |
| 18:31.00 | iphands | ? |
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| 18:32.25 | JesperHansen | rm_you: actually more girls than boys, right? |
| 18:32.56 | rm_you | like 2x |
| 18:33.22 | StsN800 | rm_you, there's a reason why i recommended it;) |
| 18:33.37 | rm_you | lol |
| 18:33.54 | JesperHansen | rm_you: which hostel? |
| 18:34.07 | rm_you | now i understand what the heaven part actually meant :P |
| 18:34.18 | Myrtti | meh |
| 18:34.18 | rm_you | SIH |
| 18:34.34 | JesperHansen | rm_you: ah, I slept there for 1 night |
| 18:34.55 | JesperHansen | Moved to Cabinn since I didn't get enough sleep for turning up to the conference |
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| 18:35.47 | lardman | JesperHansen: that sounds promising |
| 18:35.50 | StsN800 | cos of the girls? ;) |
| 18:35.55 | lardman | or am I reading far too much into it? ;) |
| 18:36.09 | rm_you | Myrtti: i'm just joking around, guess it is a bit sexist >_> |
| 18:36.17 | JesperHansen | And some drunk guy stood up in the middle of the night and started peeing on some random girls bed that thankfully wasn't there that night. After like 30 minutes he still stood there in front of the bed with his pants down |
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| 18:36.21 | JesperHansen | Sucked I didn't have a camera |
| 18:36.52 | lardman | lol |
| 18:37.00 | JesperHansen | Girls = Quiet |
| 18:37.07 | JesperHansen | 3 guys = noisy |
| 18:37.07 | lardman | peeing? |
| 18:37.10 | StsN800 | after being surrounded with mostly male nerds for a weekend its perfectly fine |
| 18:37.11 | Myrtti | yesterday I just witnessed a discussion about an article about "Ubuntu Love Fest" - "so were there pictures of Ubuntu Women?". |
| 18:37.21 | Myrtti | you're not getting me to laugh here, fellers |
| 18:39.06 | StsN800 | yawns |
| 18:39.30 | Myrtti | vanishes |
| 18:39.38 | StsN800 | cya |
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| 18:39.50 | JesperHansen | Did the girls at the conference do something nerdy or did they only sit and drink coffee and tea when I was paying attention? :P |
| 18:39.57 | rm_you | sorry Myrtti :( |
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| 18:40.44 | lardman | my apologies too |
| 18:40.49 | JesperHansen | StsN800: did you catch the Intercity Lyn to Aarhus? |
| 18:40.54 | lardman | is probably still drunk |
| 18:41.30 | StsN800 | is looking forward to seeing his fiancee again |
| 18:41.42 | lardman | doesn't have one anymore :) |
| 18:41.52 | StsN800 | JesperHansen, yeah. delayed like hell |
| 18:41.53 | lardman | swapped for a wife |
| 18:42.06 | StsN800 | JesperHansen, where ya at? |
| 18:42.21 | StsN800 | we crossed odense recently |
| 18:42.37 | StsN800 | lillebælt now |
| 18:42.50 | GuySoft | hey, is there a way to tell the package manager to lock a version of an application? it keeps trying to download maemo-recorder and failing |
| 18:43.03 | JesperHansen | StsN800: just before ODense |
| 18:43.14 | qwerty12_N800 | GuySoft: google "debian pinning" |
| 18:43.15 | StsN800 | k |
| 18:43.21 | JesperHansen | StsN800: Couldn't take the Lyn, as it didn't further than Aarhus. |
| 18:43.28 | StsN800 | ah |
| 18:43.52 | GuySoft | qwerty12_N800, thanks, i thought it will only work on apt.. not the gui |
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| 18:44.18 | StsN800 | lo john |
| 18:44.41 | JesperHansen | is too scared to check his bank account tomorrow |
| 18:45.27 | rm_you | lol... |
| 18:45.59 | StsN800 | payday, remember |
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| 18:47.03 | JesperHansen | hah, On the radio "We've caught up alot with our delay and are now only 20minutes delayed" and a laugh emerges from the train as we were 21 minutes delayed from cph. |
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| 19:15.00 | leandroal | I'm trying to install scratchbox by running the script provided by maemo.org. The Linux installation is amd64, so I'm getting the message "E: Currently Scratcbox can only run in 32 bit i386 architecture." when I run the scratchbox installation script. Is there any workaround to have scratchbox running in a amd64 machine? |
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| 19:18.56 | qwerty12_N800 | leandroal: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=22934&highlight=scratchbox+64-bit may possibly be of help to you |
| 19:20.11 | leandroal | qwerty12_N800, thank you! |
| 19:24.04 | leandroal | qwerty12_N800, it seems it is working... It is now download the scratchbox-core package (tar.gz) |
| 19:25.14 | qwerty12_N800 | Cool! Being on 32-bit, I avoid this scratchbox annoyance :) |
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| 19:47.09 | b-man16 | ~seen xnt14 |
| 19:47.11 | infobot | xnt14 <n=xnt14@pool-71-190-240-139.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2d 19h 49m 26s ago, saying: '22 hours :p'. |
| 19:47.22 | b-man16 | :P |
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| 20:13.51 | lardman | night all |
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| 20:27.49 | JesperHansen | stskeepsie: You wouldn't know of a modern SIM cloning info page? |
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| 20:32.40 | stskeepsie | no sorry |
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| 21:01.32 | stskeepsie | yawns |
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| 21:04.40 | stskeepsie | 'lo rm_you |
| 21:05.11 | rm_you | yo |
| 21:05.30 | stskeepsie | how was carnival? if it was still going on :P |
| 21:06.35 | rm_you | we didn't really even find it, lol |
| 21:06.44 | rm_you | just wandered and ate and got tired eventually :P |
| 21:07.25 | stskeepsie | yeah i know the feeling |
| 21:07.30 | lcuk | hye rm_you \o |
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| 21:07.51 | stskeepsie | the train i was originally going to take broke, so the next train (which i made) was delayed and filled with people from first train |
| 21:07.53 | qwerty12_N800 | hi stskeepsie, rm_you |
| 21:08.03 | rm_you | lol hey lcuk |
| 21:08.07 | rm_you | safely home i see |
| 21:08.11 | stskeepsie | 'lo qwerty12_N800 |
| 21:08.17 | lcuk | mmmm, im home |
| 21:08.20 | rm_you | lol wow sts |
| 21:08.25 | rm_you | it BROKE? >_> |
| 21:08.34 | lcuk | you MADE a train? |
| 21:08.41 | rm_you | lol |
| 21:08.54 | rm_you | the (which I made) does sound humorous even IN context, actually :P |
| 21:08.56 | stskeepsie | rm_you: yeah they had to empty it and push it away :P |
| 21:09.42 | stskeepsie | which i made it to :P |
| 21:09.46 | lcuk | lol |
| 21:10.13 | stskeepsie | the metro got stuck as well |
| 21:10.38 | lcuk | my mmc is still corrupt :( it looks like ive lost all the notes from the last week |
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| 21:11.06 | lcuk | hey johnx \o |
| 21:11.13 | stskeepsie | wb johnx |
| 21:11.24 | stskeepsie | lcuk: just because maemo says it's corrupt doesn't mean it is |
| 21:11.25 | stskeepsie | :P |
| 21:11.28 | qwerty12_N800 | ello johnx |
| 21:11.48 | lcuk | ok stskeepsie thats a good point, but i havent got another mmc reader |
| 21:12.00 | wazd | johnx: heya |
| 21:12.09 | johnx | morning wazd |
| 21:12.14 | stskeepsie | lcuk: another n800 maybe |
| 21:12.40 | wazd | johnx: It's 1:12 AM in here so yep, mornin' :D |
| 21:12.56 | stskeepsie | wazd o/ |
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| 21:13.49 | madlord | hello |
| 21:14.05 | johnx | hey GAN800 :) |
| 21:14.30 | wazd | johnx: I've read your description of dev/ device, interesting :) |
| 21:14.46 | madlord | i have a maemo n800, and i have a problem with my internal sd card, it is doesn't mounting |
| 21:14.49 | johnx | yup. that was a really big risk on Nokia's part |
| 21:15.10 | johnx | madlord: have you tried backing it up and formatting it? |
| 21:15.31 | qwerty12_N800 | johnx: I'm surprised though, you weren't bound to secrecy? |
| 21:15.37 | madlord | I just tried to replace it by another with more space, but now, the file /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exists |
| 21:15.59 | stskeepsie | qwerty12_N800: no NDAs. no pictures however either |
| 21:16.12 | stskeepsie | and we didn't see anyone getting tackled .. ;) |
| 21:16.20 | madlord | johnx: but it is not recognized anyway |
| 21:16.22 | qwerty12_N800 | Ah, that's fair enough |
| 21:16.42 | wazd | johnx: Were there any comments on recent rumors? |
| 21:16.52 | madlord | johnx: in the pc i can see the contents inside the card |
| 21:17.51 | johnx | madlord: interesting? and on the device, the /dev/mmcblk0 device doesn't even show up? |
| 21:17.59 | wazd | btw we have one person in here in Russia, host of mobile-review.com, called Eldar Murtazin |
| 21:18.02 | johnx | also note: you can't have it mounted on the PC and N8x0 at the same time |
| 21:18.29 | rm_you | i didn't really hear them comment about the leaked info, but you could tell they were a little bit tense, possibly related? also possibly cause they were showing us dev devices and didn't want THEM leaked >_> |
| 21:18.53 | madlord | johnx: I don't have any /dev/mmc* |
| 21:19.17 | wazd | He's in touch with Nokia (as he says) and about 2 months ago he told in one of his podcasts that he actually have the pre-release new maemo device |
| 21:19.18 | stskeepsie | wazd: hehe. it's nothing to deal with media - it's a beagleboard with lipstick and a touchscreen, if we look at it cynically |
| 21:19.31 | stskeepsie | we didnt get to see any nokia devices |
| 21:19.31 | johnx | madlord: is it plugged into the PC right now while you're looking? |
| 21:19.39 | madlord | johnx: ah yes, I removed from tablet and inserted on the computer just to test |
| 21:19.39 | stskeepsie | just stuff developers hack on |
| 21:19.59 | stskeepsie | that the mix was interesting anyway is neat :P |
| 21:20.04 | madlord | johnx: it's plugged on the tablet now |
| 21:20.26 | madlord | johnx: it is the default nokia card that comes with the maemo box |
| 21:20.48 | wazd | So I think he's talking crap :) |
| 21:21.54 | madlord | johnx: maybe some script is not running (/etc/rc.d/*) or some module should be loaded? |
| 21:21.58 | johnx | madlord: and it works in the other slot? |
| 21:22.14 | madlord | johnx: no, in any slot |
| 21:22.32 | johnx | and other cards work in the tablet? |
| 21:22.38 | madlord | no |
| 21:23.37 | johnx | and the tablet's not plugged into anything else with the USB cable? |
| 21:23.54 | madlord | no |
| 21:24.00 | madlord | it's alone |
| 21:24.02 | johnx | it does need the g_file_storage kernel module loaded |
| 21:24.29 | johnx | errr...actually, no that's not right... |
| 21:24.46 | johnx | mmc/sd support should be compiled into the kernel |
| 21:24.55 | madlord | hum |
| 21:25.33 | madlord | but I think it's compiled to do that, because it was recognized until now :) |
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| 21:25.52 | madlord | the external slot never worked, but the internal yes |
| 21:26.27 | johnx | yeah, it sounds like a hardware problem |
| 21:26.29 | madlord | dmesg don't returns any usefull information |
| 21:26.33 | madlord | hum |
| 21:27.57 | madlord | johnx: the files /dev/mmc* just is showed when the card is plugged in? |
| 21:28.27 | johnx | correct I believe, let me test real quick |
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| 21:38.39 | rabelais | can anyone comment on how well dates+syncevolution on the N810 works with a syncml server (e.g. horde/kronolith)? |
| 21:39.11 | madlord | johnx: I don't know if this is relevant, but in /proc/devices has a lot of information of Block devices, which has "65 sd" "66 sd" ... "135 sd" "254 mmc" |
| 21:39.27 | madlord | various sd informations |
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| 21:50.36 | GAN800 | Hi, johnx. |
| 21:50.46 | stskeepsie | evening gan |
| 21:53.56 | GAN8001 | Howdy |
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| 21:56.44 | timeless_mbp | hi |
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| 22:02.37 | Renesis_ | IRC is much easier to use than I thought it would be, what a disappointment... |
| 22:03.07 | stskeepsie | yeah, it's sometimes too easy :P |
| 22:03.13 | mavhc | welcome to the top 1% of the internet! |
| 22:03.47 | GeneralAntilles | Dirty little whore |
| 22:03.58 | GeneralAntilles | and to think some people want to make it easier. ;) |
| 22:04.01 | madlord | johnx: the cards are working :) |
| 22:04.36 | Renesis_ | What's the world coming to? |
| 22:04.37 | GeneralAntilles | Renesis_, looks like somebody registered Renesis. Have to do RX or something. |
| 22:05.04 | Firebird | RX? |
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| 23:32.10 | lcuk | \o |
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| 23:59.36 | GAN800 | lcuk, did you get your tablet fixed? |