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| 01:05.06 | kkrusty | is there any hope for an RTM client for maemo? |
| 01:05.22 | kkrusty | Zutun doesnt work and so does Doneit |
| 01:05.40 | kkrusty | and theres a canola plugin from what I hear but thats months away I bet |
| 01:07.20 | kkrusty | is maemo dying? |
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| 01:20.14 | eukreign3 | hello |
| 01:20.51 | eukreign3 | so, i'm working on my user interface and just when i thought i was done i realized that when you click on an entry box the whole thing gets squished because of the onscreen keyboard the pops up |
| 01:21.21 | eukreign3 | is there anyway to disable the onscreen keyboard or is there a best practice for how to handle squishing your app when it comes up |
| 01:21.48 | zakkm | eukreign3: its done by a command |
| 01:21.59 | eukreign3 | i guess i can put my form in a scrolledwindow... |
| 01:22.05 | zakkm | you cant really block it, you can make stylus one come up |
| 01:22.16 | zakkm | or you can rewrite the box spot |
| 01:22.20 | zakkm | like coding |
| 01:22.22 | eukreign3 | okay, so i have to compensate for it |
| 01:22.33 | zakkm | there should be an alternate command |
| 01:22.46 | eukreign3 | well, i think i'm just going to stick my form into a scrolledwindow |
| 01:22.55 | zakkm | ive never coded so unfortunately i cant help you, but there should be another uhh coding line you can replace with, and it wont come up |
| 01:23.26 | eukreign3 | i have 7 inputs stacked ontop of each other, looks fine until you click into an input, then they get squished because they don't fit |
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| 02:20.11 | Macer | doctors still use maggots to pull dead flesh off of people |
| 02:20.22 | luke-jr | no wai |
| 02:20.45 | Macer | those wacky maggots and their need to feed on dead flesh |
| 02:21.03 | acydlord | s/maggots/zombies |
| 02:22.12 | Macer | naw. zombies eat live brains |
| 02:22.12 | Macer | wow Germans were nuts |
| 02:22.12 | acydlord | well all the zombie attacks in the news lately i havent heard of any brain noms |
| 02:22.12 | acydlord | mostly arms and legs |
| 02:23.09 | Macer | still watching the documentary about auschwitz |
| 02:23.18 | Macer | :) i'm on part 10 |
| 02:23.53 | acydlord | do they cover the telekenesis projects and all the other mind warfare crap? |
| 02:24.21 | Macer | no. it's more a sympathy documentary . they only showed the tests in twis |
| 02:24.22 | Macer | twins |
| 02:24.48 | Macer | where the doctors would inject disease into twins and wait for one to die then murder the other one at the same time to compare them |
| 02:25.11 | Macer | only mindfucked people do things like that |
| 02:25.31 | GAN8001 | Macer, works really well as they only eat the necrotic flesh. |
| 02:26.04 | Macer | well. hopefully i never get gangrene |
| 02:26.33 | Macer | wow. the mossad went to south america and found the death camp people that ran away to south america |
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| 02:27.18 | GAN8001 | wishes he had some honey. |
| 02:28.25 | zakkm | telekinesis is real , what you guys on about :) |
| 02:28.50 | Macer | well. wonder what that would mean for a telekenetic jew in auschwitz |
| 02:29.15 | zakkm | my family is jewish, from the UK too |
| 02:29.30 | zakkm | ive gone atheist, but yeah |
| 02:29.55 | Macer | britan police officers deported jews to the nazis from the british isles |
| 02:30.15 | zakkm | you guys believe in telekinesis? |
| 02:30.18 | Macer | the french did too. |
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| 02:58.17 | b-man16 | ~seen xnt14 |
| 02:58.20 | infobot | xnt14 <n=xnt14@pool-71-190-240-139.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 3h 35s ago, saying: '22 hours :p'. |
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| 02:58.37 | b-man16 | heh |
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| 02:59.48 | b-man16 | pokes xnt14 on twitter |
| 03:01.50 | marnanel | I have a question about .install files and the garage extras-devel repository. When I try to install from http://rfk.garage.maemo.org/rfk.install , the app manager scans the repo but then claims there's no package called rfk, which there is. What am I doing wrong here? Did I misunderstand the syntax? |
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| 03:11.17 | GAN8001 | Got the right dist? |
| 03:13.38 | GAN8001 | marnanel, I don't see it here: http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/diablo/free/r/ |
| 03:14.05 | marnanel | GAN8001: it's in http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/r/rfk/ |
| 03:14.17 | marnanel | is that bad? did I put it in the wrong place? |
| 03:14.33 | GAN8001 | Well, what are you trying to install it on? |
| 03:14.34 | zakkm | GAN8001: extras-devel not extras |
| 03:14.43 | zakkm | wait |
| 03:15.04 | zakkm | marnanel: thats fremantle.. not diablo |
| 03:15.04 | zakkm | you cant run that on the tablet. |
| 03:15.05 | marnanel | oh, sorry. |
| 03:15.07 | marnanel | duh. |
| 03:15.09 | zakkm | thats for the next version of the tablet, thats not out yet |
| 03:15.23 | GAN8001 | zakkm, bleh, typos on r.m.o links. |
| 03:15.28 | marnanel | moves it to diablo and tries again then |
| 03:16.58 | zakkm | is maemo garage any good , i never check it |
| 03:17.58 | GAN8001 | Good for? |
| 03:18.11 | zakkm | checking |
| 03:18.17 | zakkm | seeing latest news/updates |
| 03:18.24 | zakkm | general everyday "rss feed reading" |
| 03:18.27 | zakkm | of maemo stuff |
| 03:19.24 | GAN8001 | Downloads is good for software |
| 03:19.26 | GAN8001 | Planet for news |
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| 03:20.18 | zakkm | planet doesnt update often |
| 03:20.35 | zakkm | ahh i miss the n800 skin :( |
| 03:20.39 | zakkm | ahh os2007 |
| 03:20.56 | GAN8001 | Bleh |
| 03:21.08 | GAN8001 | OS2008 is the only OS that has shipped reasonably bearable default themes. |
| 03:21.19 | zakkm | is it possible to go back to old hildon-desktop? |
| 03:21.24 | zakkm | and theme? |
| 03:21.42 | zakkm | like have diablo.. with 2007s look? |
| 03:23.26 | zakkm | GAN8001: would http://sse2.net/rotate/ "quick instructions" still apply? |
| 03:26.28 | zakkm | i get http://outpo.st/rotate/osso-software-version-rx34-unlocked_1%3a5.2008.43-7_all.deb .. 404 not found |
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| 03:43.26 | zakkm | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 03:43.26 | zakkm | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.28 | zakkm | is that okay to do? |
| 03:47.39 | Macer | zakkm: i thought os2007 looked rather similar to 2008 |
| 03:47.42 | Macer | or vice versa |
| 03:49.23 | zakkm | 2007 looks different ;p |
| 03:49.28 | zakkm | its more stylus than fingered |
| 03:49.36 | zakkm | and the themes are much different |
| 03:53.37 | Macer | i ran it for like 2 weeks .. then 2008 came out |
| 03:53.42 | Macer | i never really looked back |
| 03:54.04 | acydlord | i still remember the 770 days |
| 03:54.07 | acydlord | sighs |
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| 03:56.28 | Macer | isn't it strange that the secretary of state during the abomb bombings was named burns |
| 03:57.05 | zakkm | 770 was awesome, until mine wsod and i had no warranty :( |
| 03:57.08 | zakkm | it was only like two weeks old |
| 03:57.26 | zakkm | i would of got another but i was scared that would do the same |
| 03:57.42 | acydlord | i traded mine for a lcd panel after i got my n800 |
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| 03:58.22 | zakkm | thats sick |
| 03:58.31 | zakkm | i got my n800 for a good deal at the time |
| 03:58.42 | acydlord | i got my n800 for full price |
| 03:58.48 | zakkm | heh |
| 03:58.51 | zakkm | expensivee |
| 03:58.54 | acydlord | was gonna stick with it but i got the discount on the n810 |
| 03:59.05 | acydlord | and then traded my n800 for a bike that wound up getting stolen |
| 03:59.10 | Macer | n810s are like $200 nowadays |
| 03:59.13 | Macer | :) |
| 03:59.13 | zakkm | ive wanted the 770 since it came out in 2005 , like when it got annonced |
| 03:59.41 | zakkm | and it wasnt until like late 2008 till i owned one |
| 03:59.48 | Macer | there are like a billion cricket places popping up here |
| 03:59.58 | zakkm | heh |
| 03:59.59 | zakkm | wheres here |
| 04:00.03 | Macer | chicago |
| 04:00.08 | zakkm | $200 ,which i could afford that |
| 04:00.09 | zakkm | hah |
| 04:00.12 | Macer | i think every other day there is a new place selling cricket stuff |
| 04:00.26 | Macer | reminds me of primeco |
| 04:00.30 | zakkm | heh rising sport? |
| 04:00.50 | Macer | yeah. it's going to follow the same path though |
| 04:00.59 | Macer | sell cheap. build the customer base.. then screw everybody over |
| 04:00.59 | Macer | :) |
| 04:01.03 | acydlord | cricket as in the sport or the wireless carrier? |
| 04:01.10 | Macer | wireless carrier |
| 04:01.14 | zakkm | ooo |
| 04:01.17 | zakkm | i thought the sport hah |
| 04:01.23 | acydlord | ahh, they've been out here for years, they are huge on the west coast |
| 04:01.38 | zakkm | i use Koodo :) |
| 04:01.41 | Macer | i lived in oceanside for years and never saw a cricket place |
| 04:01.42 | Macer | :) |
| 04:01.44 | zakkm | i live in toronto, canada |
| 04:02.03 | acydlord | allow me to refrain |
| 04:02.10 | zakkm | pay $25 a month ( $28 after tax ) i get everything i need |
| 04:02.12 | acydlord | they are huge in areas where people have bad credit |
| 04:02.19 | Macer | zakkm: that is how cricket is |
| 04:02.21 | zakkm | heh |
| 04:02.27 | Macer | i wonder what type of network they use |
| 04:02.33 | zakkm | just curious, what happens if yourlike 2 days late on cell bill? |
| 04:02.45 | acydlord | cricket uses cdma |
| 04:02.46 | zakkm | my cell bill was due on the 27th and its now the 29th |
| 04:02.50 | zakkm | i use cdma :D |
| 04:02.53 | Macer | ah. like sprint? |
| 04:03.08 | zakkm | cdma is getting huge |
| 04:03.09 | Macer | maybe they will have wimax support :-D (yeah right) |
| 04:03.19 | acydlord | yeah, except they only have a few towers or rent time on others and their service is rather spotty |
| 04:03.22 | zakkm | the next tablet is going to have 3g ? |
| 04:03.26 | acydlord | lol, they just got data this last year |
| 04:04.00 | Macer | i wonder why the japanese decided to bomb pearl harbor |
| 04:04.09 | zakkm | watch the movie and find out ;p |
| 04:04.10 | Macer | zakkm: it's supposed to |
| 04:04.24 | zakkm | it does. |
| 04:04.27 | Macer | zakkm: i am reading on wikipedia.. but i'm actually reading more abouthte bombings |
| 04:04.47 | zakkm | nobody saw it coming |
| 04:05.02 | Macer | oppenheimer had a huge head |
| 04:05.11 | Macer | he reminds me of brain from pinky and the brain |
| 04:05.50 | zakkm | pearl harbor was a brillant move |
| 04:05.59 | Macer | no it wasn't |
| 04:06.05 | Macer | they should have concentrated on China |
| 04:06.44 | Macer | just as germany shouldn't have opened a 2nd front against russia |
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| 04:08.52 | Macer | 70 million people died during ww2 |
| 04:10.00 | zakkm | Macer: and alot died after the war |
| 04:11.08 | zakkm | Macer: ww2 caused alot of problems, for one.. Hitler figured out how to counterfeit british money beautifully, and decided to do it, in order to screw up their currency / help win the war |
| 04:12.13 | zakkm | Macer: http://greenbackvillenumismatics.com/WWIIBernhardCounterfeit.aspx |
| 04:12.57 | zakkm | Macer: books onit too http://www.amazon.com/Kruegers-Men-Secret-Counterfeit-Prisoners/dp/product-description/0316057002 |
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| 04:14.43 | zakkm | made over 200mil pounds a month. and in 1940 that was alot ;p |
| 04:21.18 | Macer | the size of the United States Navy was significantly increased and after the Japanese incursion into Indochina, the United States embargoed iron, steel and mechanical parts against Japan. |
| 04:21.28 | Macer | there's the reason :) |
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| 06:05.29 | thux | morning |
| 06:06.11 | RST38h | mourning. |
| 06:12.29 | luke-jr | night |
| 06:13.38 | chx | zakkm: have you managed to get rotate working? |
| 06:13.52 | zakkm | not at all, ive done it in the past though many times |
| 06:14.09 | zakkm | i didnt exactly put much thought into doing it this time |
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| 06:16.22 | thux | security experts claim to our leading newspaper reporter that you can see into web-server root just wiping out part of web-address? that cannot be true can't it? |
| 06:17.00 | zakkm | its not |
| 06:17.09 | zakkm | -.- |
| 06:17.14 | zakkm | theres htaccess blocking it |
| 06:17.18 | StsN800 | .seen stskeeps |
| 06:17.30 | thux | pity that reporters believe everything |
| 06:17.36 | StsN800 | ~seen stskeeps |
| 06:17.38 | infobot | stskeeps <n=chobits@84.238.11.16> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 10h 30m 16s ago, saying: 'i get angry when the normal browser starts at the moment .. :P'. |
| 06:17.48 | StsN800 | hm |
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| 06:18.53 | StsN800 | when did i drop off the channel? |
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| 06:20.31 | zakkm | StsN800: do you use stylus or finger, for typing on n800? |
| 06:22.29 | StsN800 | thux, thanks |
| 06:22.29 | StsN800 | zakkm, mixed |
| 06:24.26 | zakkm | i meant purely typing, not surfng around/clicking |
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| 07:42.14 | aquatix | StsN801: stylus? O:) |
| 07:42.24 | aquatix | just uses his fat fingers |
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| 08:00.57 | Myrtti | btw is there any ocr stuff for maemo yet? |
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| 08:18.22 | RST38h | moos |
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| 08:34.56 | amr | is there a powerpoint viewew for maemo? |
| 08:40.47 | tank-man | maybe openoffice, or print to pdf from ms office |
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| 08:41.18 | amr | hmm, good idea |
| 08:41.18 | amr | ty |
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| 09:23.54 | thopiekar | moin |
| 09:25.22 | Guest97442 | rwa maÄ |
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| 10:02.21 | thopiekar | does anyone know why I get this output? http://pastebin.com/d5d233c42 .. I want to build mixxx of ubuntu's sources in my editor eclipse.. building by dpkg-buildpackage works and all deps are installed by apt-get build-deps mixxx .. so where is the problem and why are there errors although there should be any... |
| 10:02.31 | thopiekar | http://pastebin.com/d5d233c42 |
| 10:02.45 | thopiekar | works on -> http://garage.maemo.org/projects/tabletdj/ |
| 10:03.39 | qwerty12 | hannesw: ping |
| 10:04.20 | hannesw | hi qwerty12 |
| 10:04.45 | hannesw | whats up? |
| 10:04.57 | qwerty12 | hey hannesw, just wondering if you've got your pywebkitgtk stuff uploaded somewhere? :) |
| 10:06.10 | hannesw | yes: http://www.henso.com/files/pywebkitgtk/ |
| 10:06.16 | hannesw | but I haven't done anything in a long time. |
| 10:06.26 | qwerty12 | No problem, thank you! |
| 10:06.50 | hannesw | you're welcome |
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| 10:10.34 | sanjay6976 | hi |
| 10:10.58 | thopiekar | qwerty12: aren't you so good in porting? which editor are you using? I'm using eclipse but I have the problem as described above? Can you help me please? |
| 10:11.59 | sanjay6976 | how to install "make" on my N810 |
| 10:12.25 | sanjay6976 | i want to run make command |
| 10:13.09 | qwerty12 | thopiekar: I suck at it. I use gedit and vim. |
| 10:13.20 | thopiekar | k |
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| 10:27.47 | thopiekar | hates diablo because of its old version of asound... in fremantle building portaudio19 works.. -.-' |
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| 10:49.44 | Macer | blah. have to install adobe CS4 |
| 10:53.28 | nomis | Noooooo! |
| 10:53.28 | qwerty12 | I installed the CS4 Master Collection a few days ago. Took me an hour for it to finish >.< |
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| 10:57.57 | Macer | qwerty12: yeah. it does seem to take quite a while |
| 10:58.15 | Macer | but then again i'm installing off of the wifi |
| 10:58.15 | oDuda | hello ! |
| 10:58.27 | Macer | probably should have copied the image over first |
| 10:59.36 | Macer | CS4 seems huge |
| 10:59.53 | Macer | i should have just installed acrobat.. that is all i really need |
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| 11:01.19 | qwerty12 | Macer: Heh, don't fancy your chances then, this was an uncompressed 7z with setup running of the harddrive itself :P |
| 11:01.27 | qwerty12 | *off |
| 11:01.54 | Macer | oh. i'm installing on my mb using a dmg that's on my fileserver |
| 11:02.22 | Macer | it's been about 15 minutes and it's 1/3 :) |
| 11:03.02 | Macer | and all i needed was acrobat to tell you the truth. but i suppose i don't have much on the mb so i just decided to install all of it |
| 11:03.29 | Macer | i have to fly to california tommorrow and then back to chicago in the same day |
| 11:03.49 | Macer | thank god they're non-stop flights |
| 11:04.08 | Macer | one flight goes to boston.. then to california from there. wtf is up with that? |
| 11:04.58 | Macer | and it's cheaper to take that flight than going straight from chicago to california |
| 11:05.09 | Macer | airlines don't make sense sometimes |
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| 11:07.46 | Macer | never realized how much crap is in CS4 |
| 11:08.06 | Macer | there's like 20 things it installs |
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| 11:12.53 | stskeepsie | harbaum: where in .dk are you atm? |
| 11:13.07 | harbaum | cabinn in |
| 11:13.34 | stskeepsie | k, we'll be there later today |
| 11:13.57 | harbaum | just arrived, checking emails and getting the n810 a little charge |
| 11:14.03 | stskeepsie | at airport waiting for lcuk,johnx,r_you |
| 11:14.05 | harbaum | where are you? |
| 11:14.24 | harbaum | ok |
| 11:14.28 | stskeepsie | met qgil,marcell earlier and x-fade |
| 11:14.49 | harbaum | i thought about joining you, but waiting 3 hours at the airport was a little too long |
| 11:14.50 | stskeepsie | the last two are making it to hotel atm |
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| 11:19.39 | Macer | nambla meeting? |
| 11:19.48 | Macer | :) |
| 11:22.30 | stskeepsie | foff |
| 11:23.45 | RST38h | ehlo |
| 11:24.19 | qwerty12_N800 | helo |
| 11:24.46 | qwerty12_N800 | stskeepsie: knock 'em dead with your presentation ;) |
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| 11:31.47 | Macer | blah. still installing. wtf |
| 11:31.53 | Macer | i just need to do 1 thing |
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| 11:49.30 | thopiekar | omfg! scratchbox's "cp" don't know the option "-t"! |
| 11:49.39 | thopiekar | is there a way to fix that? |
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| 11:51.01 | thopiekar | can't understand why sb is that buggy.. |
| 11:53.58 | suihkulokki | thopiekar: umm, you are aware that -t is a relatively new gnu extension? |
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| 12:12.24 | mikkov_ | screen d |
| 12:12.37 | thopiekar | suihkulokki: no.. so I have to edit these two lines.. right? |
| 12:12.39 | thopiekar | find $(CURDIR)/* -maxdepth 0 -not -path '$(DEB_BUILD_DIR)*' | \ |
| 12:12.39 | thopiekar | xargs cp -rlf -t $(DEB_BUILD_DIR)/$* |
| 12:12.50 | qwerty12_N800 | mikkov_: irssi user? ;) |
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| 12:13.16 | mikkov_ | yes, and also a screen user :) |
| 12:13.25 | qwerty12_N800 | hehe |
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| 12:23.03 | Pavlov | hrm |
| 12:25.46 | thopiekar | is thinking about how to edit these two lines (http://pastebin.com/d45776a7) so that no "cp -t" will be used... |
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| 12:34.32 | GAN8001 | Somebody want to go throw tomatoes at Alexey? :P |
| 12:35.23 | RST38h | GAN: Which one? |
| 12:35.33 | RST38h | has got two or three in tomato-throwing distance |
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| 12:40.46 | GAN8001 | RST38h, for mentioning an iPhone on-list. ;) |
| 12:40.59 | qwerty12_N800 | GAN8001: for using an iPhone to post to maemo-community? |
| 12:41.03 | qwerty12_N800 | Yep :p |
| 12:43.11 | GAN8001 | One should at least have enough shame to not mention it publicly. |
| 12:43.33 | GAN8001 | bergie, any chance on that fixed toolbar screenshot? |
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| 12:55.32 | andrewfblack | Hello |
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| 13:04.06 | stskeepsie | at hotel now |
| 13:04.20 | andrewfblack | Hey stskeepsie |
| 13:04.31 | Pavlov | you guys coming to the party thing tonight? |
| 13:05.07 | stskeepsie | yeah obviously |
| 13:05.12 | stskeepsie | im sponsoe |
| 13:05.25 | stskeepsie | red but wasnt on hotel list, lovely |
| 13:05.49 | Pavlov | cool |
| 13:05.57 | Pavlov | gonna be good i think |
| 13:06.09 | Pavlov | the building here is pretty cool |
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| 13:07.53 | stskeepsie | lo lbtN800 |
| 13:08.20 | lbtN800 | hi |
| 13:08.33 | lbtN800 | big rooms... |
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| 13:11.42 | KotCzarny | hi |
| 13:11.55 | fiferboy | lbtN800: Hi |
| 13:12.17 | KotCzarny | is it worth to upgrade to diablo? |
| 13:12.38 | lbtN800 | hi fiferboy |
| 13:12.48 | lbtN800 | in cph |
| 13:13.03 | fiferboy | Nice! I hear there is a party tonight |
| 13:15.02 | lbtN800 | yeah |
| 13:15.05 | wazd | Ð´Ñ ÑÑÑÑÑ |
| 13:15.08 | wazd | jeez |
| 13:15.11 | wazd | lo maemo :) |
| 13:15.14 | Meizirkki | My n810 screen is now even more cracked >_< |
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| 13:15.43 | Meizirkki | ello wazd |
| 13:15.43 | fiferboy | lbtN800: I haven't been able to find that patch you were talking about, but I did come across a good argument for turning scrollPerPixel on by default |
| 13:15.51 | stskeepsie | lbt, will be 3 mins late |
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| 13:41.54 | RST38h | moo wazd |
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| 13:42.56 | JesperHansen | Checked in at Sleep in Heaven :-) |
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| 13:43.22 | qwerty12_N800 | That name sounds... ominious |
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| 13:45.43 | wazd | RST38h: heya |
| 13:46.29 | wazd | Vlad told me that Nokia canceled Clutter support for Maemo 5 apps, it will work only for desktop effects for now |
| 13:46.37 | wazd | Can anybody confirm? |
| 13:46.57 | JesperHansen | didn't Stskeeps_ decide to go out and eat or did the computer catch a cold |
| 13:47.41 | JesperHansen | along with lcuk which is Gary.. and... |
| 13:47.45 | wazd | Cause if it is - that's really kind of unfair |
| 13:47.49 | StsN800 | JesperHansen, yes, just left nørreport |
| 13:48.08 | StsN800 | we couldnt find you so |
| 13:48.13 | wazd | We spent a fricking load of time to make some cool things with Clutter |
| 13:48.30 | JesperHansen | StsN800: Said I had to leave you there to go to the other Hotel |
| 13:48.30 | RST38h | wazd: No way??? |
| 13:48.44 | RST38h | wazd: Drop this shitbomb onto t.m.o |
| 13:48.52 | wazd | RST38h: well, that was my words, just in russian and uncensored :) |
| 13:48.54 | RST38h | wazd: Then get some popcorn :) |
| 13:49.33 | wazd | StsN800: Can you please ask Quim or someone there if it's true |
| 13:49.57 | RST38h | Although I can probably understand it from technical point of view |
| 13:50.06 | wazd | RST38h: well, I have an option that Vlad just missunderstood something |
| 13:50.24 | StsN800 | JesperHansen, ah |
| 13:50.25 | StsN800 | wazd, will try |
| 13:50.31 | RST38h | Somebody mentioned once that Clutter basically locks OpenGL API from everybody else when it is running |
| 13:50.37 | wazd | RST38h: Vlad said that there's the problem with hildon-desktop or something |
| 13:50.54 | RST38h | wazd: It may only be true for widgets |
| 13:51.02 | wazd | StsN800: thanks! Hows cph?) |
| 13:51.13 | RST38h | wazd: but still it is worth checking with Quim, just to see the expression on his face |
| 13:52.19 | wazd | RST38h: I'm really ok with canceling functions, shit happens, it's life, but I'm slightly pissed off cause we've done too much work on it |
| 13:52.30 | wazd | RST38h: especially Vlad |
| 13:53.32 | wazd | We've made some animated weather icons'n'stuff |
| 13:53.44 | RST38h | Can't you do this without clutter? |
| 13:53.59 | RST38h | The easiest way would be to use giflib probably |
| 13:54.13 | RST38h | (avoid pnglib/mnglib, they are both pure horror) |
| 13:55.01 | wazd | RST38h: I don't really know, our brains are in "God fucking damned!" mode right now) |
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| 13:56.18 | wazd | RST38h: and I think giflib can help, but it's a load of another work again |
| 13:56.26 | RST38h | not much |
| 13:56.39 | RST38h | it makes playing gif animations real easy |
| 13:56.48 | wazd | RST38h: Clutter is like Flash, you move around objects, transform them, fade in/ont and other stuff |
| 13:57.05 | RST38h | it isn't like flash because it is built on top of glib |
| 13:57.05 | JesperHansen | StsN800: I might catch up with you later. Gotta visit some friends first though on the route. Where you at atm? |
| 13:57.13 | RST38h | flash is easy, glib stuff is hairy |
| 13:57.13 | wazd | RST38h: Our icons were not just a row of frames |
| 13:57.45 | woglinde | wazd time to switch to qt and animation framework |
| 13:57.50 | wazd | RST38h: the were, hmm, like directed actions of tiny parts like drops and clouds |
| 13:57.55 | RST38h | wazd: Well, as far as moving objects around is concerned, you can just use my EMULib |
| 13:58.38 | RST38h | wazd: it will even work on a plain fb0 so no changes made by Nokia to high level APIs will ever affect it |
| 13:58.46 | wazd | RST38h: It's not a big deal to switch or do something instead |
| 13:59.20 | wazd | RST38h: the deal is to spend much time on something that became useless |
| 13:59.21 | RST38h | wazd: I think it is painfully clear by now that Nokia does not consider developers a priority |
| 13:59.49 | RST38h | wazd: It does its own app development and sometimes discloses related APIs to developers |
| 14:00.34 | RST38h | So, I would not rely on anything high level |
| 14:00.51 | StsN800 | JesperHansen, rådhuspladsen |
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| 14:04.02 | JesperHansen | StsN800: kk, I actually dont really know where that is on the map, but I'll find it. If there's anything I should know that you get to know from here, then give me a msg. on 60128903 |
| 14:04.43 | JesperHansen | Great weather in CPH, there's the Carnival this weekend with lightly dress samba girls. You're all missing out. |
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| 14:13.31 | danilocesar | Are someone here having problems to download GoogleMaps with Maemo Mapper? |
| 14:14.15 | Corsac | yeah, the url changes sometimes iirc |
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| 14:24.03 | stskeepsie | mm bacon burgers |
| 14:24.31 | danilocesar | Corsac: gnuit should release a new version so... lets wait |
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| 14:36.33 | chx | So.... is there any offline way to use the GPS...? |
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| 14:38.45 | RST38h | Maps application supplied by Nokia |
| 14:38.53 | RST38h | or predownloading maps into Maemo Mapper |
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| 14:39.54 | chx | hm, the Maps on the device said '7 days trial' |
| 14:40.36 | till- | the navigation |
| 14:40.38 | till- | not the maps |
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| 14:41.16 | RST38h | ignore the navigation crap |
| 14:41.18 | wjs_ltop | Navit works as well, if your in a location with good OSM maps |
| 14:41.33 | till- | wayfinder works quite well |
| 14:41.58 | till- | showing your position and the maps, just the navigation requires a license |
| 14:42.42 | wjs_ltop | Personally I don't find the GPS functionality as bad as it's made out to be on the N810.. Sure, sometimes it takes a bit of time to locate, but usually less then a minute. |
| 14:43.03 | mgedmin | if you're standing still |
| 14:43.06 | mgedmin | it's worse if you're moving |
| 14:43.17 | wjs_ltop | Navit gives you the navigation function. And seems to be actively developed. |
| 14:43.33 | chx | when i start the Map application it asks "continue navigation trial" / enter license key / purchase navigation |
| 14:43.37 | wjs_ltop | I haven't found the GPS function to loose signal, once it's aquired it. |
| 14:43.43 | chx | there does not seem to be a "go away" functionality :) |
| 14:43.45 | RST38h | mgedmin: worked fine for me when moving |
| 14:43.58 | RST38h | mgedmin: initial acquisition appears to be better when standing still |
| 14:44.12 | RST38h | chx: Ignore it |
| 14:44.23 | wjs_ltop | I did find that if you don't have your time set correctly, it takes much longer to aquire. |
| 14:44.29 | wjs_ltop | signal lock. |
| 14:45.04 | wjs_ltop | Has anybody tried the new gps daemon that I see available in the packages? Does it work better? |
| 14:45.25 | RST38h | it is written in python, right? |
| 14:45.42 | qwerty12_N800 | the frontend is iirc |
| 14:45.48 | wjs_ltop | Don't know, just noticed it, but was too chicken to install it.. |
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| 14:54.11 | qwerty12_N800 | Does anyone know if the program that provides the pairing dialog is open source? It sets HILDON_GTK_INPUT_MODE_NUMERIC which is useless when your GPS's passcode is NAVMAN :) |
| 14:54.16 | coldboot|home | Is there anyone who has been able to get remote debugging working on the n810, or debugging working in Scratchbox 2? |
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| 14:54.38 | coldboot|home | If so, how did you do it? |
| 14:54.51 | lopz | hola |
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| 14:57.23 | coldboot|home | I've got remote debugging working on the n810, but for some reason it won't set breakpoints in some arbitrary Qt functions, but some others work fine. |
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| 14:57.40 | coldboot|home | Debugging on Scratchbox doesn't work at all, it won't set any breakpoints and the documentation is useless. |
| 14:58.31 | coldboot|home | It says you have to link in the threading library that your program uses. In my case it's pthreads, but linking that into the maemo custom gdb 6.6 by typing -lpthreads into the Makefile manually doesn't change anything. |
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| 14:59.15 | woglinde | coldboot you could use ddd |
| 14:59.21 | woglinde | for graphical stuff |
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| 15:08.10 | chx | hey this thingie , even if nothing else, is a great Skype phone |
| 15:08.23 | chx | pity it does not do video in Skype :( |
| 15:09.46 | gomiam | chx: true, true... at least it does through GTalk |
| 15:10.32 | chx | rly? intersting! |
| 15:13.29 | toggles_w | and with ekiga if you can ever get it to register, yet to make it work with empathy though |
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| 15:29.18 | Macer | samurai gun is almost as dumb |
| 15:29.21 | Macer | oops |
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| 15:35.32 | mib_n14gax | In gtk2.0 how to find the api reference? |
| 15:36.45 | mib_n14gax | when i want to find a function's function and find the discription relative to it,how i should do? |
| 15:39.37 | Jaffa | Af'noon |
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| 15:41.27 | thopiekar | is tried of sb1 and all that buggy tools.. |
| 15:42.29 | thopiekar | dreams of full dev-environment without stupid 3rd-party-tools like sb1's |
| 15:42.44 | coldboot|home | woglinde: Have you used it before? It is a graphical bug. |
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| 15:46.02 | chx | Skype cant do text chats while phoning? |
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| 15:48.29 | RST38h | windoze version can |
| 15:51.33 | thux | does /proc/cpuinfo show current real cpu speed? |
| 15:51.38 | dneary | Jaffa: Ping? |
| 15:51.46 | dneary | GAN800: Ping? |
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| 15:55.55 | Jaffa | dneary: pong |
| 15:58.01 | dneary | Jaffa: What do you expect from brainstorm moderators? |
| 15:58.21 | dneary | Jaffa: How many, and who do you think is best placed to do it? |
| 15:59.02 | woglinde | coldboot hm? |
| 15:59.51 | Jaffa | dneary: andre is an obvious candidate. I'd expect them to be merging similar, trying to keep one item per "brainstorm", closing/deleting spam or abusive things, helping tease out the actual meat |
| 16:00.16 | Jaffa | dneary: There're a couple of levels in there, but a lot of it overlaps with the exact role of the bugsmaster |
| 16:00.19 | Jaffa | (IMHO) |
| 16:00.21 | dneary | OK - so if it's growing out of bugzilla, sjgadsby would be another obvious candidate |
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| 16:00.27 | Jaffa | nods |
| 16:00.37 | dneary | I've been pushing Henri to have the same technical way of operation as Ubuntu |
| 16:00.58 | Jaffa | Is there a handy dandy URL describing how they do it? |
| 16:00.59 | dneary | Submitted ideas go into a moderator queue, and get published once 2 moderators approve them |
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| 16:01.13 | dneary | Jaffa: No, I've been looking for their guidelines all afternoon |
| 16:02.05 | Jaffa | dneary: gah |
| 16:02.39 | coldboot | woglinde: ddd is just a frontend to gdb, now that I remember, that won't help at all. |
| 16:03.15 | coldboot | It seems like barely anyone actually seriously writes software for this device. |
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| 16:06.56 | dneary | Jaffa: I think that there aren't any guidelines on moderator behaviour, I'm wondering whether any are needed |
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| 16:13.17 | dneary | Jaffa: I guess I wasn't looking very hard :} |
| 16:13.18 | dneary | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Brainstorm/BrainstormModerators |
| 16:13.26 | dneary | http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/faq/ |
| 16:13.36 | dneary | https://lists.launchpad.net/brainstorm-moderators |
| 16:13.49 | woglinde | coldboot hm are there qt-dbg packages? |
| 16:13.58 | dneary | http://ubuntuforums.org/group.php?groupid=276 |
| 16:14.31 | woglinde | coldboot maybee antonio strip to many debug symbols in the packages |
| 16:14.32 | coldboot | woglinde: Yeah I've got libqt4-dbg installed. |
| 16:14.37 | woglinde | hm |
| 16:14.44 | woglinde | then I have no clue too |
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| 16:22.31 | coldboot | It's a lot more complicated than that. |
| 16:22.43 | coldboot | In scratchbox apparently you have to compile your own gdb and link in the threading library your program uses. |
| 16:22.52 | coldboot | However there's no documentation on how to do that, and nobody answers questions here. |
| 16:23.19 | bacon | nobody ever needs to go that far |
| 16:23.43 | coldboot | If you're writing software, eventually you end up using a debugger to debug. |
| 16:23.52 | bacon | i dont |
| 16:24.02 | coldboot | You've never used one before? |
| 16:24.15 | bacon | yeah use one every day in vb |
| 16:24.23 | bacon | but in linux and c no |
| 16:24.43 | bacon | i just code defensively and write many logs |
| 16:24.57 | coldboot | I've got this bug where whenever you click something in Qt that inherits from a QAbstractItemView (ie any sort of table), the screen flashes and you see tearing. |
| 16:25.09 | coldboot | It makes no sense at all. |
| 16:25.37 | bacon | this screen tears anyway for everyone but lcuk so meh |
| 16:25.49 | coldboot | It doesn't tear in any other situation. |
| 16:26.36 | bacon | have you got new hardware then? |
| 16:27.08 | coldboot | It does it on all of the 6 nokia n810 devices we have here, and all instances of Scratchbox 2. |
| 16:27.11 | coldboot | It's not a hardware problem. |
| 16:27.51 | coldboot | Writing a simple Qt application from scratch doesn't exhibit the same behaviour when clicking a QAbstractItemView, so it's something with our application. |
| 16:27.57 | bacon | but the screen refresh tears on all 8x0 devices |
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| 16:28.22 | coldboot | It's not just simple tearing, you see quite significant artifacts on the screen, like horizontal white bars. |
| 16:28.28 | bacon | of course there might be something emphasising it more for you |
| 16:28.36 | bacon | lbt had that |
| 16:28.48 | bacon | he raised a qt bug about it |
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| 16:29.01 | coldboot | Do you have that bug number or a link? |
| 16:29.10 | coldboot | I wasn't able to find anything related, because this sort of thing is so hard to search for. |
| 16:29.35 | bacon | i have nothing i am halfway round the world from my house |
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| 16:29.42 | bacon | but lbt is 3 rooms away |
| 16:30.29 | coldboot | Three rooms away from you? |
| 16:30.31 | lbtN800 | a qt bug... nah |
| 16:30.54 | bacon | bangs on the wall |
| 16:30.56 | coldboot | I definitely don't think it's a Qt bug if I can't reproduce it in a blank Qt program with a QAbstractItemView child. |
| 16:31.28 | lbtN800 | wassup coldboot |
| 16:31.33 | coldboot | Hey lbtN800 |
| 16:31.54 | lbtN800 | isnt good on n800 |
| 16:32.03 | coldboot | Do you know how to get gdb working in Scratchbox 2 with a Qt app (implying it has pthreads), or remotely on the n810? |
| 16:32.18 | lbtN800 | ah |
| 16:32.32 | lbtN800 | i ran ddd on tablet |
| 16:32.38 | lbtN800 | it hurts |
| 16:33.14 | bacon | omg more scab |
| 16:33.19 | lbtN800 | i decided qdebug was saner |
| 16:33.29 | coldboot | Is qdebug based on gdb at all? |
| 16:33.55 | lbtN800 | nah it's more derived from prtintf |
| 16:34.05 | lbtN800 | ;) |
| 16:34.24 | coldboot | So you can't set breakpoints? |
| 16:34.44 | lbtN800 | no it really is print |
| 16:35.01 | coldboot | Okay that's useless then. |
| 16:35.42 | lbtN800 | heh ymmv |
| 16:36.05 | lbtN800 | gdb works on tablet |
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| 16:37.23 | johnx | lcuk, get down here ;p |
| 16:37.29 | lbtN800 | k |
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| 16:39.04 | johnx | people are starting to head out |
| 16:39.09 | suihkulokki | lbtN800, coldboot, qemu linux-user doesn't support ptrace syscall |
| 16:40.16 | coldboot | suihkulokki: What are the implications of that? |
| 16:41.01 | suihkulokki | coldboot: gdb, strace and other tools that use ptrace won't work |
| 16:41.11 | johnx | lcuk, get down here ;p |
| 16:42.34 | johnx | lcuk, get down here ;p lbt is here with us |
| 16:42.39 | coldboot | suihkulokki: Why is there a Scratchbox 2 debugging guide telling you how to use gdb in Scratchbox 2, then? |
| 16:43.06 | coldboot | Here's the guide: http://maemo-sdk.garage.maemo.org/sdk-plus-debugging-guide.html |
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| 16:43.13 | coldboot | Under this heading: "Debugging issues with Scratchbox-2" |
| 16:45.27 | coldboot | Are you sure ptrace won't work with qemu? |
| 16:49.37 | coldboot | gdb doesn't even work on this stupid device. |
| 16:49.42 | coldboot | It just fhangs there indefinitely. |
| 16:50.56 | coldboot | No wait, it gets killed and the device reboots. |
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| 17:00.23 | suihkulokki | coldboot: it works in sb2 on x86 targets |
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| 17:09.30 | slonopotamus | wonders who he saw today in a bus 495 with n800 ;) |
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| 17:19.33 | coldboot | suihkulokki: That's what I'm attempting to get it working on, however it doesn't work when you have threads. |
| 17:19.53 | coldboot | suihkulokki: The guide says to link gdb with the thread library you're using, and Qt uses pthreads. I tried that, but I get the same results. |
| 17:20.09 | coldboot | suihkulokki: Have you successfully got sb2 debugging a Qt program with gdb? |
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| 17:59.46 | coldboot | suihkulokki: I take it you haven't used gdb for a program with threads in sb2? |
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| 18:08.15 | amr | i havent been able to get a gps signal since ive had my n810 lol |
| 18:08.23 | amr | ive walked to the library which takes 10 mins, and i didnt get a signal |
| 18:08.28 | amr | i walked back from my exam which took 20/30 |
| 18:08.30 | amr | and i didnt get a signal |
| 18:08.49 | ShadowJK | diablo with a-gps installed? :) |
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| 18:13.04 | GAN800 | How's hacking? |
| 18:13.06 | Proteous | my n97 should be shipping out today |
| 18:13.16 | zakkm | GAN800: are you at the danish weekend? |
| 18:13.28 | Myrtti | still wants N96 |
| 18:13.29 | Proteous | complete with super nokiausa.com web bug discount |
| 18:13.30 | Myrtti | er |
| 18:13.32 | GAN800 | zakkm, nope |
| 18:13.34 | Myrtti | N86 |
| 18:13.45 | zakkm | are you not going, or did it not start already? |
| 18:14.05 | GAN800 | Proteus, aren't you gonna feel silly if Rover comes out next month. :p |
| 18:14.17 | GAN800 | zakkm, not going. |
| 18:14.51 | Proteous | GAN, depends on the phone functionality of Rover |
| 18:14.52 | zakkm | ah |
| 18:14.56 | Proteous | maybe... |
| 18:14.56 | Proteous | heh |
| 18:15.35 | Proteous | but since I got my n97 at sucha steap discount I could just sell it on ebay and make a profit |
| 18:15.56 | Myrtti | Proteous: how much? |
| 18:16.16 | GAN800 | under 500 |
| 18:16.17 | Proteous | I got $244 off the MSRP and a free $80 bluetooth headset |
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| 18:16.50 | Myrtti | cries |
| 18:16.57 | zakkm | you guys know the nokia 9300? |
| 18:17.03 | zakkm | 9300 smartphone, with symbian? |
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| 18:17.11 | Myrtti | zakkm: the log? |
| 18:17.15 | zakkm | http://blogs.ittefaq.com/tech/archives/nokia_9300-thumb.jpg |
| 18:17.22 | ShadowJK | is that like... Series80? |
| 18:17.26 | zakkm | yeah |
| 18:17.27 | Myrtti | oh, that's not even a log |
| 18:17.58 | zakkm | friend and i got a nokia 770 + that for $120 ... he went and sold that on craigslist for $150 hah |
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| 18:21.09 | coldboot | The n810s go for like $180. |
| 18:21.18 | coldboot | Oh wait, 770 is different completely. |
| 18:21.29 | ShadowJK | hey I saw a N800 on display in a brick and mortar store last week |
| 18:21.34 | zakkm | it was over a year ago. |
| 18:21.45 | zakkm | im just talking about the phone |
| 18:21.52 | zakkm | getting cheap and selling online fo rprofit |
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| 18:28.00 | jeremiah_ | On the train to Copenhagen. |
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| 18:28.58 | jeremiah_ | It will be cool to see people like X-Fade and stskeepsie in RL |
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| 18:29.26 | Jaffa | jeremiah_: have fun :) |
| 18:29.30 | Jaffa | Have a beer for me |
| 18:29.32 | jeremiah_ | Just hope someone has a charger for my N810 since I left mine at home. |
| 18:29.43 | jeremiah_ | Jaffa: I promise to have a beer for your :) |
| 18:29.44 | Jaffa | I'd *guess* there may be one or two ;-) |
| 18:29.49 | GAN800 | Who brought a trout to go Nokian bashing? ;) |
| 18:30.05 | jeremiah_ | If there is no beer, I'm going home |
| 18:30.25 | jeremiah_ | GAN800: Trout? |
| 18:30.35 | GAN800 | You didn't hear? It's BYOC. ;) |
| 18:30.38 | Myrtti | GAN800: shouldn't it be a wellie? |
| 18:30.40 | Myrtti | :-P |
| 18:30.51 | GAN800 | wellie? |
| 18:30.53 | jeremiah_ | GAN800: Bring your own C? |
| 18:31.02 | t_s_o | hmm, beta4 of garnetvm? |
| 18:31.09 | Jaffa | t_s_o: so it'd appear |
| 18:31.13 | GAN800 | Charger. ;) |
| 18:31.15 | Myrtti | GAN800: https://www.ulkoilukauppa.com/tuotekuvat/2767_reef_green.jpg |
| 18:31.17 | Myrtti | :-D |
| 18:31.19 | jeremiah_ | Ah! |
| 18:31.23 | tank-man | t_s_o, you got an email? |
| 18:31.30 | jeremiah_ | is slow in the head |
| 18:31.36 | t_s_o | tank-man: yep |
| 18:31.43 | GAN800 | Ha, right! |
| 18:32.00 | RST38h | moos slightly |
| 18:32.16 | t_s_o | hmm, the link is to elabs5.com... |
| 18:33.01 | t_s_o | sheesh, they want to do the registration loop again?! why not include a "existing user" code in the mail? |
| 18:33.44 | GAN800 | The 5800's inertial scrolling is a cruel joke. |
| 18:34.03 | GAN800 | It's like the page is sliding on sandpaper. |
| 18:34.17 | ShadowJK | I guess it's an improvement from Tear's accidental light-speed :-) |
| 18:34.17 | GAN800 | I hope we get some trickledown from the N97 |
| 18:34.19 | jeremiah_ | Myrtti: Nice boots. |
| 18:34.43 | GAN800 | webkit-eal's is perfect with a small tweak. |
| 18:34.43 | ShadowJK | GAN800, based on their past performance, I'd doubt it :-) |
| 18:35.11 | GAN800 | ShadowJK, one more thing that thoroughly pisses me off about Symbian |
| 18:35.30 | tank-man | t_s_o, use your old dl link from last year or whenever, it links to the new beta |
| 18:35.42 | GAN800 | Product teirs should not be software-based. |
| 18:35.43 | ShadowJK | You know, it's much more pleasant to go from Symbian to Maemo :) |
| 18:35.48 | t_s_o | tank-man: didnt save the mail from that far back... |
| 18:35.55 | tank-man | gmail :) |
| 18:35.57 | tank-man | :P |
| 18:36.27 | t_s_o | yeah right, and just hand over my personal life to them in the process |
| 18:37.24 | zakkm | maemo its that hard ;p |
| 18:37.32 | zakkm | isnt * |
| 18:38.15 | Myrtti | t_s_o: come, come to the dark side, we have 7.3 gig mailboxes and COOKIES! |
| 18:38.20 | Myrtti | nowait |
| 18:38.38 | wjs_ltop | amr: is your time/date/timezone set correctly? |
| 18:39.16 | wjs_ltop | amr: if you go into the Map application there is an icon like a satellite, If you click on that It should show you things.. |
| 18:41.58 | jeremiah_ | oh jeez, how um, modern. We have a twitter tag for the CPH weekend - mozmae |
| 18:42.03 | zakkm | the map application is so cool :P |
| 18:42.34 | jeremiah_ | Now crossing over the oresund bridge from Sweden into Denmark. |
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| 18:45.40 | t_s_o | cute, i think garnetvm just crashed my tablet... |
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| 18:46.10 | tank-man | t_s_o, new expiry date is november 30, 2009 |
| 18:47.28 | jeremiah_ | -c |
| 18:47.43 | jeremiah_ | And by that I mean /c :) |
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| 18:55.43 | zakkm | theres a new garnet vm |
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| 18:58.49 | ShadowJK | GAN800, the symbian signed thing is however the best part, way to kill freeware software alltogether :-) |
| 18:59.00 | ShadowJK | or instead of freeware, let's say hobbyist |
| 18:59.11 | ShadowJK | hobbyist freeware |
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| 19:10.46 | t_s_o | ShadowJK: just like any other level of control, it was put there to stop someone from doing something undesierable, like say a over the air stealth install of some program that would copy the devices address book++ |
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| 19:13.14 | qwerty12_N800 | It was there because most of the shareware/commercial programs available were cracked & distributed so easily. there must've been quite a few 0days... |
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| 19:13.45 | amr | wjs_ltop, the date/time/timezone are all set correctly |
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| 19:13.52 | amr | and it shows uh, levels? |
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| 19:15.10 | amr | 19:07 <ShadowJK> diablo with a-gps installed? :) |
| 19:15.12 | amr | pardon? |
| 19:16.03 | amr | if diablo is version 5.2008.43- |
| 19:16.03 | amr | yes |
| 19:16.11 | amr | *43- |
| 19:16.13 | amr | *43-7 |
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| 19:43.20 | ShadowJK | amr: yeah.. installing a-gps might help |
| 19:43.41 | ShadowJK | you install it, and first time you set your approximate position |
| 19:44.09 | ShadowJK | there's also something on the forums about deleting nvd_data, might wanna search |
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| 19:48.12 | marcelo_ | someone knows why this page is not working? http://test.maemo.org//downloads/d1.php |
| 19:48.33 | mmorais | ? |
| 19:49.51 | jeremiah_ | stskeepsie: ping |
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| 19:51.17 | Guest0317_390 | how to create a .install file from my application for future in download section? |
| 19:51.42 | Jaffa | offs to JavaOne |
| 19:51.51 | jeremiah_ | Guest0317_390: I think there is a link on the wiki about install files. I should look that up for you. |
| 19:52.05 | jeremiah_ | Jaffa How has the JavaOne been so far? |
| 19:52.23 | Guest0317_390 | ok tx i wait |
| 19:52.25 | jeremiah_ | drats, just missed him |
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| 19:59.46 | Guest0317_390 | ... |
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| 20:18.02 | Pavlov | mm |
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| 20:25.24 | b-man16 | *cough* |
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| 21:01.38 | amr | ShadowJK is this the AGPS beta? |
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| 21:09.13 | b-man16 | bugs luke-jr on #anime |
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| 21:23.18 | stskeepsie | jeremiah_: pong |
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| 21:39.59 | luke-jr | b-man16: FAIL |
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| 21:45.08 | stskeepsie | so you made it to the hostel, JesperHansen? :) |
| 21:45.15 | JesperHansen | yea |
| 21:45.24 | JesperHansen | There are some pretty hot girls here. |
| 21:45.34 | JesperHansen | How about your hotel? does it come with girls? |
| 21:46.13 | stskeepsie | nop |
| 21:46.18 | stskeepsie | only the one at the counter |
| 21:46.28 | |R | much more difficult ;) |
| 21:46.30 | stskeepsie | but yeah, hot girls there probably in your hostel |
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| 21:46.38 | stskeepsie | i'm engaged though so it's not as fun :P |
| 21:46.50 | JesperHansen | stskeepsie: "Who will know" :P |
| 21:47.17 | stskeepsie | i will, and that's the worst hell. :P |
| 21:47.22 | stskeepsie | yawns |
| 21:47.37 | JesperHansen | hmm, free wifi here, but forgot to ask for the access code actually |
| 21:48.16 | JesperHansen | I think one maemo weekend guy has already gone to sleep here |
| 21:48.28 | JesperHansen | though I cant recognise anyone in darkness... |
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| 21:48.39 | bacon | are you in the pub |
| 21:49.33 | JesperHansen | Can anyone write some software for facial recognition for my brain? |
| 21:49.57 | JesperHansen | Requirement is it must have nightvision |
| 21:50.14 | qwerty12_N800 | Are you unplugged from the Matrix? |
| 21:50.15 | bacon | jes who are you |
| 21:50.41 | bacon | i was there b4 |
| 21:50.54 | JesperHansen | bacon: where? |
| 21:51.00 | JesperHansen | I am right in the café |
| 21:51.07 | bacon | i was before too |
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| 21:51.20 | bacon | i am in hotel now |
| 21:52.02 | luke-jr | come play Yandere in #anime ! |
| 21:52.16 | JesperHansen | bacon: I had a bacon sausage with bread on the way here. There's like the perfect combination of shops on the route to here. |
| 21:52.36 | bacon | its student land lol |
| 21:52.46 | JesperHansen | <3 student land |
| 21:52.48 | bacon | but stskeeps warned us against |
| 21:53.37 | JesperHansen | And thank God he did. Now I have all the chicks and bacon for myself! |
| 21:53.52 | bacon | mmm chicks? |
| 21:54.00 | JesperHansen | Actually considered changing hotel, but this might just make up for the 400kr. in difference |
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| 21:55.10 | JesperHansen | Too tired to recharge laptop... Must resist sleeping... |
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| 21:55.36 | bacon | so jasp |
| 21:55.43 | JesperHansen | Screw it! I'm gonna sleep. See you tomorrow. |
| 21:55.45 | bacon | are you in student |
| 21:55.49 | bacon | bye then |
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| 22:05.21 | maddler | Hello World! |
| 22:05.42 | Stskeeps_ | 'lo maddler |
| 22:06.27 | maddler | how's going here? |
| 22:06.39 | maddler | I've been for quite a long time... :) |
| 22:07.10 | Stskeeps_ | many of us are in copenhagen :P |
| 22:07.45 | maddler | hehe :) |
| 22:09.14 | Stskeeps_ | and bloody tired after a long day |
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| 22:17.29 | etrunko | X-Fade: booo |
| 22:17.53 | Pavlov | very tired |
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| 22:18.13 | Stskeeps_ | indeed |
| 22:18.29 | Pavlov | trying to finish prep for my talk in the morning |
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| 22:21.24 | Macer | have to wake up early tomorrow to fly |
| 22:21.39 | Macer | i hate trips on airplanes |
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| 22:30.19 | etrunko | talk? |
| 22:30.24 | etrunko | :. |
| 22:30.25 | etrunko | :P |
| 22:30.37 | Pavlov | wlel, really my demo |
| 22:30.38 | Pavlov | ;p |
| 22:31.17 | etrunko | Please write down your nicknames on your badges so we can know who is who |
| 22:32.05 | Pavlov | oh heh yeah |
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| 22:35.10 | stskeepsie | get some badges ;p |
| 22:35.36 | stskeepsie | bbl |
| 22:36.04 | Macer | badges? :) |
| 22:36.43 | stskeepsie | http://dilbert.com/fast might apply to some discussions about device.. |
| 22:36.44 | stskeepsie | s |
| 22:37.31 | Macer | haha |
| 22:37.43 | Macer | is that the kind of brief you're giving? |
| 22:38.18 | stskeepsie | nah :) |
| 22:39.34 | wazd | stskeepsie: is your Mer presentation tomorrow? |
| 22:39.39 | StsN800 | yes |
| 22:39.45 | StsN800 | in 17 hrs |
| 22:39.52 | wazd | StsN800: good luck then :) |
| 22:40.14 | wazd | StsN800: I've done almost all that I could :) |
| 22:40.24 | Pavlov | heh |
| 22:40.47 | wazd | StsN800: Can you send me the link to the final view of the slides? maybe I can change something |
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| 22:51.32 | Macer | ugh |
| 22:51.44 | Macer | what i would give for the G1 to have the N95's camera |
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| 23:31.15 | Fuzzybunny | hi |
| 23:32.32 | Fuzzybunny | does anyone know where I can find a mac guru to chat with |
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