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| 00:58.03 | rm_you | AStorm: pongy? |
| 01:31.22 | AndrewFBlack | is getting a headache from all the fightin on Talk |
| 01:31.47 | GeneralAntilles | AndrewFBlack, I'm just getting depressed. ;) |
| 01:33.09 | AndrewFBlack | It wouldn't be so bad it there wasn't so many threads ask/saying the same things I don't know how many times we have to tell them no we can't just put the old theme up it doesn't work with new version of vBulletin |
| 01:38.39 | AndrewFBlack | have you noticed after I told people to stop complaining on my minimalist theme post no one has posted anything lol |
| 01:43.27 | doc|work | they're being minimalist |
| 01:46.24 | fireun | heh |
| 01:46.40 | fireun | damn nihilists |
| 01:47.47 | fireun | totally different than the minimalists, of course |
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| 02:38.53 | xnt | ~nuke b-man's MMC |
| 02:38.54 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at b-man's MMC ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 02:38.59 | xnt | :P |
| 02:39.02 | b-man | lol |
| 02:39.32 | xnt | lol |
| 02:41.15 | b-man | ~nuke xnt's HDD |
| 02:41.16 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at xnt's HDD ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 02:41.47 | b-man | lol |
| 02:41.54 | xnt | is on an ssd |
| 02:42.05 | xnt | ~nuke b-man's cpu |
| 02:42.05 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at b-man's cpu ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 02:42.15 | b-man | ~nuke xnt's SSD |
| 02:42.16 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at xnt's SSD ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 02:42.20 | b-man | XD |
| 02:42.42 | b-man | ~nuke xnt's computer |
| 02:42.43 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at xnt's computer ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 02:42.49 | b-man | lolol |
| 02:42.55 | xnt | gets on his eee |
| 02:43.07 | b-man | ~nuke xnt's eee |
| 02:43.08 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at xnt's eee ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 02:43.19 | xnt_eee | ~kill b-man |
| 02:43.20 | infobot | ACTION shoots a excited photon gun at b-man |
| 02:43.21 | b-man | hahaha |
| 02:43.25 | b-man | noooo!!! |
| 02:43.32 | xnt_eee | ~attack b-man's body |
| 02:43.33 | infobot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing b-man's body |
| 02:43.56 | b-man | can run when he's dead? 0o |
| 02:44.14 | xnt_eee | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/latest.log.html |
| 02:44.16 | xnt_eee | :P |
| 02:44.32 | xnt_eee | ~bored |
| 02:44.33 | infobot | La ... lalalala ... beer! |
| 02:44.38 | xnt_eee | what? |
| 02:44.41 | b-man | lol |
| 02:44.43 | xnt_eee | wtf, :P |
| 02:44.46 | xnt_eee | ~wtf |
| 02:44.54 | xnt_eee | ~help |
| 02:44.56 | xnt_eee | ~ok |
| 02:44.57 | infobot | fine |
| 02:45.00 | xnt_eee | ~shutup |
| 02:45.01 | infobot | yes master, I'll STFU |
| 02:45.02 | xnt_eee | ~die |
| 02:45.03 | infobot | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 02:45.11 | xnt_eee | :P |
| 02:45.11 | b-man | lol |
| 02:45.14 | xnt_eee | lol |
| 02:45.20 | b-man | ~hump |
| 02:45.21 | infobot | ACTION humps the channel |
| 02:45.23 | xnt_eee | lol |
| 02:45.26 | xnt_eee | ~hack |
| 02:45.27 | b-man | lol |
| 02:45.36 | b-man | ~shag |
| 02:45.37 | infobot | ACTION strips and bends over.. give it to me baby ;) |
| 02:45.37 | xnt_eee | ~fly |
| 02:45.37 | infobot | ACTION flies a F16, or http://photos.photosig.com/photos/85/49/1144985-bf2effb0adcf81c9.jpg |
| 02:45.47 | b-man | lol |
| 02:45.55 | xnt_eee | lol |
| 02:46.16 | b-man | ~burn himself |
| 02:46.17 | infobot | ACTION pours gasoline all over himself, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 02:46.17 | xnt_eee | ~brb |
| 02:46.18 | infobot | xnt_eee: brb, too. Be Right Back |
| 02:46.23 | xnt_eee | lol |
| 02:46.25 | xnt_eee | ~lol |
| 02:46.26 | infobot | it has been said that lol is stands for Laughing Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 02:46.26 | b-man | lol |
| 02:46.35 | xnt_eee | lol |
| 02:46.39 | b-man | lol |
| 02:46.42 | xnt_eee | rofl |
| 02:46.45 | xnt_eee | ~nit |
| 02:46.46 | infobot | i heard nit is Nokia Internet Tablet |
| 02:46.53 | xnt_eee | ~b-man |
| 02:46.55 | b-man | ~rofl |
| 02:46.55 | infobot | it has been said that rofl is rolling on the floor laughing |
| 02:47.00 | xnt_eee | ~xnt |
| 02:47.09 | b-man | ~kill |
| 02:47.22 | b-man | ~infobot |
| 02:47.22 | infobot | hmm... infobot is [infobot], or infobot, or likes abuse |
| 02:47.30 | b-man | lol |
| 02:47.30 | xnt_eee | ~status |
| 02:47.31 | infobot | Since Thu Apr 30 17:30:04 2009, there have been 42 modifications, 237 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 131 commands. I have been awake for 2d 9h 17m 26s this session, and currently reference 116128 factoids. I'm using about 21520 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 5402.81/229.91 child 0.09/0.05 |
| 02:47.40 | xnt_eee | lol |
| 02:48.04 | b-man | infobot: you suck |
| 02:48.04 | infobot | and very well I might add |
| 02:48.08 | xnt_eee | ~google lol |
| 02:48.10 | b-man | lol |
| 02:49.11 | xnt_eee | ~read lol |
| 02:49.21 | xnt_eee | ~buy b-man |
| 02:49.30 | xnt_eee | ~Help! |
| 02:49.31 | infobot | it has been said that help is /msg infobot help |
| 02:49.33 | xnt_eee | ~lol |
| 02:49.33 | infobot | [lol] stands for Laughing Out Loud. It is grammatically incorrect to use LOL in the first person; use 'heh' or 'haha' instead. If you want to use LOL, do '/me lol' instead. |
| 02:49.35 | b-man | ~dead |
| 02:49.36 | infobot | yes :( |
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| 02:49.45 | b-man | infobot: your a dork |
| 02:49.55 | b-man | ~dork |
| 02:49.56 | infobot | Right back at you, b-man. |
| 02:50.14 | b-man | f*ck you, infobot |
| 02:50.26 | xnt_eee | infobot: kernelstats |
| 02:50.28 | luke-jr_ | lulz |
| 02:50.33 | luke-jr_ | ~lulz |
| 02:50.34 | infobot | ACTION did it for da lulz |
| 02:50.43 | xnt_eee | ~attack luke-jr |
| 02:50.44 | infobot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing luke-jr |
| 02:50.48 | b-man | lol |
| 02:50.54 | luke-jr_ | ~die |
| 02:50.54 | infobot | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 02:51.06 | b-man | heheha |
| 02:51.10 | xnt_eee | ~stab luke-jr_ |
| 02:51.11 | infobot | ACTION runs at luke-jr_ with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 02:51.18 | b-man | lol |
| 02:51.21 | xnt_eee | lol |
| 02:51.25 | luke-jr_ | b-man: xnt_eee! |
| 02:51.29 | luke-jr_ | come to #anime for IRC gamez |
| 02:51.43 | b-man | shure !!! |
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| 03:22.35 | b-man | i'm back |
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| 03:41.40 | DavidePalm | hi, does anyone use penguintv? |
| 03:55.47 | luke-jr | b-man: hi b-mean |
| 03:55.56 | b-man | hello |
| 03:55.59 | xnt | lol |
| 03:56.08 | xnt | ~lulz |
| 03:56.09 | infobot | ACTION did it for da lulz |
| 03:56.46 | b-man | ~dies |
| 03:56.47 | infobot | i do? |
| 03:56.51 | b-man | yes |
| 03:57.05 | luke-jr | lulz |
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| 03:57.16 | xnt | rofl |
| 03:57.24 | b-man | hello xnt aka b-mean |
| 03:57.28 | b-man | XD |
| 03:57.28 | xnt | :P |
| 03:57.32 | xnt | xD |
| 03:58.17 | b-man | ~burn b-mean |
| 03:58.18 | infobot | ACTION pours gasoline all over b-mean, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 03:58.23 | b-man | XD |
| 03:59.06 | b-mean | ~attack b-man |
| 03:59.07 | infobot | ACTION grabs a pen, screams like she's possessed, and begins chasing b-man |
| 03:59.17 | b-man | ~nuke b-mean |
| 03:59.17 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at b-mean ... Bâ¢â¢M! |
| 03:59.24 | b-man | xD |
| 03:59.35 | b-mean | ~die |
| 03:59.36 | infobot | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 03:59.43 | luke-jr | ]y xnt |
| 03:59.52 | b-man | ~stab b-mean |
| 03:59.53 | infobot | ACTION runs at b-mean with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 03:59.58 | b-man | :D |
| 04:00.02 | luke-jr | bot abusers |
| 04:00.08 | b-man | lol |
| 04:00.12 | xnt | lol |
| 04:00.14 | b-man | ~stab himself |
| 04:00.15 | infobot | ACTION runs at himself with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 04:00.26 | xnt | wants his own infobot |
| 04:00.32 | b-man | XD |
| 04:00.37 | fireun | frobot |
| 04:00.44 | b-man | ~infobot |
| 04:00.45 | infobot | infobot is, like, [infobot], or infobot, or likes abuse |
| 04:00.52 | b-man | :P |
| 04:00.54 | luke-jr | my N810 is a portable pocket warmer while it compiles GCC! |
| 04:01.08 | b-man | mine is too lol |
| 04:01.10 | LiraNuna | lmao |
| 04:01.13 | fireun | yikes |
| 04:01.26 | Shadow__X | what temps does it go upto |
| 04:01.47 | b-man | ~stab everyone and everything like a mad man |
| 04:01.48 | infobot | ACTION runs at everyone and everything like a mad man with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 04:01.50 | luke-jr | it needs a label: CAREFUL: avoid direct skin contact while compiling code! |
| 04:01.59 | xnt | :P |
| 04:02.00 | b-man | lol |
| 04:02.01 | luke-jr | b-man: hurry up |
| 04:02.38 | b-mean | ~screw |
| 04:02.39 | infobot | ACTION takes out his screw driver and screws b-mean right up |
| 04:02.48 | xnt | WTF? |
| 04:02.49 | b-man | woh |
| 04:03.06 | luke-jr | O.O |
| 04:03.12 | b-man | ~screw luke-jr |
| 04:03.12 | infobot | ACTION asks luke-jr to bend over |
| 04:03.19 | b-man | lol |
| 04:03.24 | luke-jr | charges infobot with first degree sexual assault of a child. |
| 04:03.26 | fireun | well thats cultured |
| 04:03.37 | GeneralAntilles | OK, enough bot abuse. |
| 04:03.39 | b-man | lolololol |
| 04:03.48 | xnt | ok |
| 04:03.55 | xnt | wants xntbot |
| 04:04.26 | luke-jr | GeneralAntilles: come play with us in #anime ? :p |
| 04:06.25 | *** part/#maemo b-mean (i=60e88828@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-5a9a6ce60e48a8e8) |
| 04:08.23 | DavidePalm | hi |
| 04:08.39 | xnt | konichiwa |
| 04:08.43 | xnt | :P |
| 04:08.47 | xnt | go to #anime |
| 04:08.55 | b-man | ~screw everyone |
| 04:08.56 | infobot | ACTION asks everyone to bend over |
| 04:09.03 | b-man | omfg lol |
| 04:09.21 | xnt | rofl |
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| 04:11.33 | xnt | rofl |
| 04:11.58 | xnt | ~kill yandere |
| 04:11.59 | infobot | ACTION shoots a ionized fluxquark gun at yandere |
| 04:12.02 | xnt | i win |
| 04:12.04 | xnt | :P |
| 04:12.07 | b-man | lol |
| 04:12.51 | b-man | ~rape yandere |
| 04:12.52 | infobot | ACTION takes yandere behind the WallMart and makes a few grunts and screams |
| 04:12.55 | b-man | lol |
| 04:13.32 | xnt | WTF :P |
| 04:14.18 | LiraNuna | r.i.p #maemo |
| 04:14.33 | xnt | lol? |
| 04:14.43 | GeneralAntilles | b-man, enough. |
| 04:14.44 | b-man | LOL |
| 04:14.53 | b-man | ok, i'm done :) |
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| 04:16.29 | b-man | xntbot: lol |
| 04:16.57 | xnt | (hack b-man |
| 04:17.08 | xntbot | hacks up b-man's acer |
| 04:17.31 | b-man | 's screen flickers |
| 04:18.25 | b-man | sees a error message from xntbot |
| 04:18.29 | b-man | lol jk |
| 04:18.43 | xnt | (take lm b-man |
| 04:18.55 | xntbot | takes b-man's lunch money |
| 04:19.08 | b-man | (take lm xnt |
| 04:19.23 | xntbot | Command Ignored |
| 04:19.28 | b-man | lol |
| 04:19.28 | xnt | (buy lol |
| 04:19.38 | xntbot | Lol out of stock |
| 04:21.28 | xnt | (take nt b-man |
| 04:21.49 | b-man | downloads and installs infobot |
| 04:21.49 | luke-jr | you two better hope GeneralAntilles can't gain op ;) |
| 04:22.06 | b-man | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=2241 |
| 04:22.10 | xntbot | rips b-man's Nokia Internet TabletTM right out of brians hands |
| 04:22.23 | pupnik | GeneralAntilles: we'll see about RX51 d-pad and buttons. if they're not suitable for gaming, i'm finished. |
| 04:22.25 | b-man | lol |
| 04:22.35 | xnt | luke-jr wait does this count against my bots too? |
| 04:22.44 | pupnik | n810 is a bust in that department, unfortunately |
| 04:23.26 | xnt | nokia better add that because better gpu = better games |
| 04:23.47 | b-man | xnt: http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/infobot/infobot-1.5.3.tar.gz |
| 04:24.03 | b-man | ;) |
| 04:24.46 | luke-jr | hmm |
| 04:24.54 | luke-jr | my N810 seems to lose wifi connection when it gets hot enough |
| 04:25.00 | xnt | ( destroy / |
| 04:25.10 | luke-jr | (rm -rf / |
| 04:25.23 | xntbot | destroys / (rm -rf /) |
| 04:25.30 | xntbot | DO NOT RUN THAT!!! |
| 04:25.35 | xnt | :P |
| 04:25.50 | luke-jr | xnt: too late, why? |
| 04:26.04 | xnt | lol fail |
| 04:26.10 | luke-jr | rm: cannot remove root directory `/' |
| 04:26.16 | b-man | brb |
| 04:26.17 | xnt | DONT RUN THAT |
| 04:26.31 | luke-jr | xnt: it just errors |
| 04:26.36 | xnt | it deletes everything |
| 04:26.41 | luke-jr | nope |
| 04:26.43 | luke-jr | just errors |
| 04:26.52 | xnt | slaps his forehead |
| 04:26.54 | Shadow__X | if you run it as user on a maemo devices |
| 04:26.57 | b-man | not if you run rm -f /* |
| 04:27.03 | b-man | ;) |
| 04:27.07 | Shadow__X | you dont get access to root do you |
| 04:27.39 | xnt | luke-jr seriously don't run that |
| 04:27.42 | luke-jr | Shadow__X: -r is dangerous ;) |
| 04:27.45 | luke-jr | xnt: seriously I did |
| 04:27.50 | luke-jr | but not on N810 |
| 04:27.54 | luke-jr | on desktop |
| 04:28.05 | Shadow__X | -r is recursive -f is force |
| 04:28.13 | xnt | exactly |
| 04:28.34 | luke-jr | and --preserve-root is nice |
| 04:28.36 | xnt | be careful with rm commands |
| 04:28.37 | pupnik | first rm'd by accident in 1988 |
| 04:28.45 | Shadow__X | luke-jr, i know what it does i also know that some repos are flaky and if you upgrade using apt it will delete your mounted share |
| 04:28.47 | xnt | has never rm'd |
| 04:29.02 | GeneralAntilles | pupnik, just get a Pandora then help out Mer. |
| 04:29.03 | xnt | nevers rms on his ipod |
| 04:29.08 | xnt | it bricks |
| 04:29.09 | xnt | it |
| 04:29.36 | luke-jr | rms xnt's ipod |
| 04:30.11 | xnt | 's ipod it off (drained battery from listening to music all day |
| 04:31.40 | xnt | brb |
| 04:33.04 | Shadow__X | GeneralAntilles, whens the eta for the pandora |
| 04:33.22 | GeneralAntilles | Shadow__X, maybe sometime in 2012 as far as I can tell. |
| 04:33.36 | luke-jr | pupnik: let's design our own Free software handheld? ;) |
| 04:33.46 | luke-jr | Shadow__X: I think Pandora is vapourware |
| 04:33.57 | Shadow__X | hmm but shouldnt the new tablet be better |
| 04:34.04 | Shadow__X | for everything other than gaming |
| 04:34.14 | GeneralAntilles | Shadow__X, than? |
| 04:34.37 | Shadow__X | pandora will be better for games |
| 04:34.44 | Shadow__X | all the buttons |
| 04:35.37 | GeneralAntilles | Depends on the games. |
| 04:35.44 | GeneralAntilles | Accelerometers will be nice for a few of them. |
| 04:36.11 | pupnik | eh |
| 04:36.17 | Shadow__X | right hmm would that give an iphone type feel |
| 04:36.30 | GeneralAntilles | I'd really dig a marble-maze style game. |
| 04:36.41 | pupnik | like Marble Madness? |
| 04:36.46 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah |
| 04:36.55 | pupnik | maybe a simpler one |
| 04:37.02 | pupnik | marble madness made heavy use of trackball |
| 04:37.11 | luke-jr | GeneralAntilles: like Neverball? |
| 04:37.13 | pupnik | you wouldn't just want to tilt to get super speed |
| 04:37.18 | pupnik | yeah neverball would be perfect |
| 04:37.29 | luke-jr | pupnik: I've played Neverball with my Thinkpad |
| 04:37.33 | luke-jr | it has accelerometers |
| 04:37.43 | pupnik | which thinkpad? |
| 04:38.04 | luke-jr | I forget |
| 04:38.07 | luke-jr | it's long broken |
| 04:38.26 | locutus | almost all thinkpads have accelerators |
| 04:38.50 | pupnik | not my t42p, a30, a21, or the 486 based ones |
| 04:38.52 | locutus | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Active_Protection_System |
| 04:38.57 | locutus | those are ANCIENT |
| 04:38.57 | pupnik | ? |
| 04:40.06 | locutus | actually, t42 should have it |
| 04:40.14 | pupnik | hmm maybe u right |
| 04:40.25 | pupnik | 2ghz is fast enough btw |
| 04:41.10 | pupnik | and the 14.1 form factor is much more pleasant than these big honkin notebooks |
| 04:41.14 | pupnik | imo |
| 04:41.31 | pupnik | i mean, i need room for coffee and ashtray |
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| 04:42.38 | DavidePalm | Hi, anyone have issues with penguintv not starting at all? |
| 04:43.54 | DavidePalm | http://pastebin.com/f7dffe5c6 |
| 04:44.31 | DavidePalm | anyone know what that error could be? |
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| 04:48.36 | xnt | has an imb thinkpad r32 :P |
| 04:48.39 | xnt | * ibm |
| 04:48.54 | locutus | i have a IBM z50 \o/ |
| 04:48.56 | locutus | MIPS Thinkpad! |
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| 04:49.18 | luke-jr | Ã |
| 04:49.54 | fireun | I have a sliderule! |
| 04:49.58 | fireun | neener |
| 04:50.39 | xnt | has a TI-89 when he was in the 7th grade |
| 04:50.44 | luke-jr | BUT IS IT MIPSâ |
| 04:50.48 | xnt | * + titanium |
| 04:50.55 | GeneralAntilles | 68k |
| 04:51.01 | GeneralAntilles | Which is much cooler than MIPS |
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| 04:51.08 | luke-jr | no wai |
| 04:51.27 | xnt | had an old intel dos server as a first comp |
| 04:51.48 | FireFox | *cough* |
| 04:51.51 | luke-jr | I was raised by a Z80 |
| 04:51.57 | xnt | cant recall the cpu |
| 04:52.10 | FireFox | :P |
| 04:52.12 | FireFox | lol |
| 04:52.17 | b-man | lol |
| 04:52.49 | fireun | was raised by an HP-85 |
| 04:53.28 | IceFox | had an Point of sale workstation as a first linux (redhat) comp |
| 04:55.35 | b-man | wtf |
| 04:55.38 | b-man16 | lol |
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| 04:56.13 | gopi_ | lol |
| 04:56.29 | b-man15 | lol |
| 04:56.43 | fireun | lloll |
| 04:56.54 | b-man99 | :P |
| 04:57.01 | b-man15 | XD |
| 04:57.19 | fireun | identity theft! alert! alarm! actung! |
| 04:57.27 | b-man2 | I CAN HAZ N800 |
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| 04:57.33 | b-man2 | :p |
| 04:57.43 | b-man1 | lol |
| 04:57.57 | fireun5 | lol |
| 04:58.13 | luke-jr | omfg |
| 04:58.15 | luke-jr | spammers |
| 04:58.19 | xnt | ~seen b-man |
| 04:58.22 | infobot | b-man <n=b-man@cpe-98-30-195-117.woh.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 2m 46s ago, saying: 'wtf'. |
| 04:58.26 | xnt | lol |
| 04:58.30 | xnt | ok ill stop |
| 04:58.56 | xnt14 | is done |
| 04:59.02 | xnt | damn #anime and #mer looks like crap |
| 04:59.14 | xnt | long list of nick changes |
| 04:59.25 | luke-jr | LOL |
| 04:59.33 | b-man | haha!!! |
| 04:59.50 | xnt14 | ok i really am 14 so ill take xnt14 |
| 05:01.10 | luke-jr | kids |
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| 05:01.40 | xnt14 | ãã« jk |
| 05:01.50 | b-man16 | hehe |
| 05:01.58 | xnt14 | oops |
| 05:01.58 | xnt14 | æãè
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| 05:02.04 | xnt14 | jk |
| 05:02.35 | xnt14 | luke-jr is a æãè
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| 05:02.39 | xnt14 | jk |
| 05:02.41 | xnt14 | lol |
| 05:02.42 | luke-jr | ()$*@#%*Q@_^ |
| 05:02.46 | b-man16 | lol |
| 05:02.48 | xnt14 | ROFL |
| 05:03.01 | xnt14 | luke-jr did you read that? |
| 05:03.02 | b-man16 | ROFL!!!!!! |
| 05:03.04 | luke-jr | no |
| 05:03.10 | b-man16 | xD |
| 05:03.22 | xnt14 | http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en#ja|en|%E6%84%9A%E3%81%8B%E8%80%85 |
| 05:03.47 | b-man16 | lol |
| 05:03.50 | xnt14 | imagines the look on luke-jr's face when he reads that |
| 05:04.05 | luke-jr | xnt14: s/when/if/ |
| 05:04.08 | luke-jr | I have no intention to |
| 05:04.17 | xnt14 | :P |
| 05:04.18 | xnt14 | ok |
| 05:04.58 | xnt14 | ã«ã¼ã¯-ã¸ã¥ãã¢ç´ æ´ãããã§ã... |
| 05:05.04 | b-man16 | ãã¡ãã¯ï¼ãã¡ãã¯ï¼ |
| 05:05.19 | xnt14 | ok that didn't translate right |
| 05:05.45 | xnt14 | lol |
| 05:06.14 | b-man16 | æè¨ã«ã¼ã¯-ã¸ã¥ãã¢æ»ã¬ |
| 05:08.09 | b-man16 | ~ã«ã¼ã¯ã殺ã-ã¸ã¥ã㢠|
| 05:12.40 | xnt14 | luke-jr doesn't come out right throgh google translate |
| 05:13.08 | _ | neither does b-man |
| 05:13.24 | radic_ | where are the configurationfiles of the webbrowser located? |
| 05:13.28 | xnt14 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.28 | xnt14 | b-homem não |
| 05:14.15 | xnt14 | radic_ : /home/user/.mozilla I think |
| 05:14.25 | b-man | yup |
| 05:14.39 | xnt14 | b-man translate |
| 05:14.39 | xnt14 | b-homem não |
| 05:14.57 | b-man | lol |
| 05:16.26 | b-man | xnt14: look at #anime lol |
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| 05:16.44 | b-man | nooo!!! |
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| 05:36.35 | jmob | Is it possible to get flash version 10 on the n810? |
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| 05:43.23 | pupnik | my new samsung mp3 player runs on linux + sdl, mmuless kernel |
| 05:43.36 | pupnik | pretty cheap, slim |
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| 05:47.09 | Stskeeps | morning kaltsi :) |
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| 06:10.24 | timeless_mbp | radic_: which "configuration files" for the web browser? |
| 06:10.48 | timeless_mbp | the web browser ui is controlled by a couple of other files, the core is mostly in the directory previously mentioned |
| 06:10.57 | timeless_mbp | but we also pay attn to some gconf settings |
| 06:11.30 | radic_ | timeless_mbp: I solved the problem |
| 06:11.53 | timeless_mbp | jmob: if you pay adobe $$$$$$$$$$ and then work on it, sure |
| 06:12.03 | timeless_mbp | otherwise, not really |
| 06:12.14 | Stskeeps | morning timeless_mbp |
| 06:12.29 | timeless_mbp | really it's more like (very) late evening, but hello there :) |
| 06:12.30 | jmob | Doesnt it exist for linux? |
| 06:12.34 | timeless_mbp | for arm? |
| 06:12.43 | timeless_mbp | can i have whatever you're smoking? |
| 06:12.49 | jmob | Oh, right, arm... |
| 06:13.09 | timeless_mbp | to the extent that it exists for arm, it's mostly because nokia is paying adobe and working w/ adobe on it |
| 06:13.13 | jmob | Adobe is incapable of compiling for other archs... |
| 06:13.17 | timeless_mbp | no |
| 06:13.31 | timeless_mbp | it's just not quite the same priority |
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| 06:13.46 | timeless_mbp | it can work on arm, but if you want it to work fast on strange hardwares |
| 06:13.48 | timeless_mbp | well.... |
| 06:13.57 | timeless_mbp | the first problem should be obvious |
| 06:14.17 | timeless_mbp | flash itself is reasonably portable |
| 06:14.27 | timeless_mbp | but what matters to users isn't really portability |
| 06:14.37 | timeless_mbp | it's performance (battery life, speed) |
| 06:15.03 | jmob | I dont quite understand the barriers though, why is compiling for other archs so hard if their code is well written/tested |
| 06:15.14 | timeless_mbp | sadly video decoders written in C don't magically become fast on random platforms |
| 06:15.36 | timeless_mbp | especially when you're asked to use a really lame version of a C compiler |
| 06:15.55 | timeless_mbp | but really, if you want to be a consumer, and you sound like one |
| 06:15.58 | timeless_mbp | please don't wonder here |
| 06:16.03 | timeless_mbp | you aren't paying me enough |
| 06:16.03 | jmob | What does maemo require? |
| 06:16.16 | timeless_mbp | consumers pay for products that work well |
| 06:16.38 | timeless_mbp | but engineers aren't paid by consumers to listen to them complain about random products |
| 06:17.14 | timeless_mbp | otoh, if you give me 1kEUR i'll be your consultant and listen to you whine for ... hrm, 5 hours :) |
| 06:17.24 | jmob | True enough... |
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| 06:17.38 | jmob | I am a consumer in this case |
| 06:17.46 | timeless_mbp | noticed |
| 06:18.20 | jmob | Otoh, you continue to respond to my "whining" |
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| 06:18.44 | timeless_mbp | is stupid |
| 06:19.00 | jmob | (That was meant in jesting manner) |
| 06:19.31 | jmob | Doesnt omap include some hardware acceleration aimed at video decoding? |
| 06:20.38 | timeless_mbp | those things don't work out of the box |
| 06:21.14 | timeless_mbp | there aren't C primitives for them, and since you don't use them when you write code for x86/x64/ppc, you actually have to write and test new code |
| 06:21.29 | timeless_mbp | this is where the claim of "if your code is so portable, why... " falls apart |
| 06:21.50 | timeless_mbp | the n8x0s have a DSP too |
| 06:22.13 | timeless_mbp | but again, those aren't standard items you find in x86 hardware |
| 06:22.15 | jmob | Right, just "wondering", sorry (-: |
| 06:22.20 | timeless_mbp | so again, you have to write and test |
| 06:22.31 | timeless_mbp | and as it happens, it seems that each DSP is different |
| 06:22.38 | timeless_mbp | so it isn't write once, it's write per device |
| 06:22.58 | timeless_mbp | (or perhaps device class if you claim the n800 and n810 are different devices in the same class) |
| 06:23.45 | GAN800 | Hopefully that'll be getting better soon. |
| 06:23.49 | timeless_mbp | chuckles |
| 06:23.51 | timeless_mbp | yeah right |
| 06:24.01 | GAN800 | With slightly more standardized DSP software |
| 06:24.01 | timeless_mbp | oh, and this stuff is hardly standard stuff that any random programmer can just do |
| 06:24.19 | timeless_mbp | you get to read lots of technical specifications, contact the vendors to ask questions |
| 06:24.23 | RST38h | GAN: Standardized across OMAP3 line :) |
| 06:24.25 | timeless_mbp | and then you deal w/ reality which includes bugs |
| 06:24.26 | GAN800 | OpenMAX LOOKS to be moving in a positive direction. |
| 06:24.52 | GAN800 | RST38h, better than every vendor rolling their own for OMAP2. ;) |
| 06:25.00 | jmob | Well, presumably there's certain "pivot" points in the code such that not everything has to be rewritten... |
| 06:25.11 | RST38h | thought TI was the only vendor of OMAP2. Missed something? =) |
| 06:25.15 | timeless_mbp | jmob: mostly it's just the video decoders |
| 06:25.27 | timeless_mbp | but it isn't *one* decoder |
| 06:25.31 | timeless_mbp | it's one for each codec |
| 06:25.39 | timeless_mbp | since they all need to be fast |
| 06:25.43 | GAN800 | RST38h, DSP software implementation. |
| 06:25.46 | timeless_mbp | well.. ok, we might not give you all of them |
| 06:25.54 | timeless_mbp | but anyway, that's the idea |
| 06:26.06 | RST38h | GAN: Ah, that... |
| 06:26.13 | timeless_mbp | adobe could probably ship a flash10 for the n800/n810 w/o support for Videos |
| 06:26.16 | timeless_mbp | but they wouldn't |
| 06:26.21 | timeless_mbp | and they wouldn't let anyone else |
| 06:26.30 | timeless_mbp | (it'd fail the certification requirements) |
| 06:26.36 | timeless_mbp | and no consumer would want it |
| 06:26.48 | GeneralAntilles | Flash == YouTube |
| 06:27.00 | jmob | There's at least one that would |
| 06:27.08 | timeless_mbp | is shocked |
| 06:27.20 | timeless_mbp | what could you possibly need from flash10 that doesn't include video? |
| 06:28.09 | jmob | Oh, you said w/o video, i retract my previous statement |
| 06:29.44 | RST38h | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/05/Picture_10_610x386.png |
| 06:29.49 | RST38h | Ehhehe... |
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| 06:30.39 | RST38h | Neither Nokia nor SE are included though. Weird. |
| 06:32.20 | RST38h | http://www.jdpower.com/corporate/news/releases/pressrelease.aspx?ID=2009082 <=== Nokia does show up in "dumb phones" category. I wonder how they did that survey... |
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| 06:57.13 | user__ | . |
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| 07:07.52 | pupnik | Read Thomas Woods' "Meltdown" to understand the cause of the crisis. |
| 07:07.55 | pupnik | http://www.amazon.com/Meltdown-Free-Market-Collapsed-Government-Bailouts/dp/1596985879 |
| 07:07.58 | pupnik | "It is curious that Congress is on the verge of passing an economic stimulus bill that is opposed by nearly two thirds of Americans. Mr. Woods provides the logic behind the intuition of this increasingly disenfranchised majority. Americans opposed to further government meddling should read this book to fully arm themselves with the knowledge necessary to win the debate. Well-intentioned Americans who support government intervention in the economy should |
| 07:13.01 | RST38h | Well, opposed != wrong |
| 07:13.28 | RST38h | Just means that if these gentlemen fuck up, they can forget about being reelected. |
| 07:17.12 | roope | let's not debate economics or politics here, please. :) |
| 07:19.12 | RST38h | roope: Should we discuss the new ITT theme instead then? =) |
| 07:19.16 | RST38h | cackles evilly |
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| 07:28.34 | roope | Well, my opinions on it could really start an argument, so perhaps not. :) |
| 07:29.31 | RST38h | hands out huge plastic happy face masks to everyone then |
| 07:31.12 | Vulcanis | puts on happyface mask. |
| 07:31.13 | Vulcanis | Voilà! In view, a humble vaudevillian veteran, cast vicariously as both victim and villain by the vicissitudes of Fate. This visage, no mere veneer of vanity, is a vestige of the vox populi, now vacant, vanished. However, this valorous visitation of a by-gone vexation, stands vivified and has vowed to vanquish these venal and virulent vermin van-guarding vice and vouchsafing the violently vicious and voracious violation of volition. |
| 07:31.39 | Vulcanis | The only verdict is vengeance; a vendetta, held as a votive, not in vain, for the value and veracity of such shall one day vindicate the vigilant and the virtuous. |
| 07:31.48 | Vulcanis | Verily, this vichyssoise of verbiage veers most verbose, so let me simply add that it's my very good honor to meet you and you may call me Vulcanis. |
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| 07:35.17 | pupnik | if the world's governments continue in this fashion, we may see such a decline in civilization as to make maemo irrelevant |
| 07:35.33 | pupnik | i would ask you to consider whether you are seeing this already |
| 07:36.24 | Vulcanis | maemo won't be irrelivant, you can... organize your... revolution.. on it |
| 07:36.40 | pupnik | anybody got a graph for commits, bug reports, updates, new releases over the past 3 years? |
| 07:38.26 | GeneralAntilles | Of everything or just Maemo? |
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| 07:41.09 | pupnik | maemo |
| 07:41.23 | GeneralAntilles | Steady increase, I'd say. |
| 07:41.29 | GeneralAntilles | With a spike over the past year or so. |
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| 07:45.26 | EpoXXy | good morning =) |
| 07:46.40 | pupnik | nice |
| 07:46.57 | GeneralAntilles | I definitely know Maemo SW has be hiring like crazy. |
| 07:47.48 | EpoXXy | i've seen that it's possible to send a2dp from an n800 to a compatible headset etc. but is it possible for a computer to send a2dp TO the n800 that plays the sounds on its small speakers? |
| 07:48.16 | roope | Yes, we're hiring like crazy. |
| 07:48.24 | roope | Mostly to Finland, unfortunately. |
| 07:49.39 | GeneralAntilles | Hope some real fruit from that hiring will be coming sooner rather than later, though. :( |
| 07:50.46 | roope | Yeah, obviously it takes some time from hiring to learning the ropes to doing work for products to the products coming out. |
| 07:52.43 | RST38h | Finland is good. |
| 07:53.32 | RST38h | suspects that Nokia does have a secret plan on Maemo in phones then. Otherwise, there would be no reason for hiring that many people |
| 07:53.51 | timeless_mbp | RST38h: way to silence roope :) |
| 07:54.10 | roope | Yeah. :) |
| 07:54.18 | roope | Yeah to the silencing, that is. :) |
| 07:54.18 | timeless_mbp | pupnik: ohloh.net :) |
| 07:54.28 | pupnik | clicks |
| 07:54.37 | timeless_mbp | RST38h: finland is evil |
| 07:54.44 | pupnik | finland kicks ass |
| 07:54.50 | timeless_mbp | my ass |
| 07:54.56 | pupnik | did you see their kill ratio in their war with russia? |
| 07:55.00 | pupnik | crazy |
| 07:55.44 | roope | Yeah... We sure like to kill Russians... |
| 07:55.47 | roope | (another very good topic ;) |
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| 07:57.09 | timeless_mbp | technically we hired a handful of people in the bay area |
| 07:57.16 | timeless_mbp | one hand that is |
| 07:57.56 | roope | keeping with the "no numbers" policy, timeless could be referring to a centipede. |
| 07:58.13 | roope | (well that made no sense whatsoever). |
| 07:58.18 | timeless_mbp | indeed not |
| 07:58.21 | RST38h | Oh it makes perfect sense |
| 07:58.29 | timeless_mbp | but i'm not really certain how many names fit in one hand |
| 07:58.35 | timeless_mbp | so roope is technically correct |
| 07:58.43 | RST38h | Bay area. Centipede. |
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| 08:01.26 | RST38h | is trying to make binary translator backtrack and set sane branch addresses |
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| 08:08.05 | RST38h | Anyone remembers if x86 has conditional jumps to address given in a register |
| 08:13.44 | RST38h | Naah it does not =( |
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| 08:15.27 | sampppa | hey, can you guys get horizontal scrolling to work with hildon pannable? |
| 08:15.41 | sampppa | http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/beta/tutorial/html/x368.html like in this example it should work |
| 08:15.55 | sampppa | but i only can scroll vertical |
| 08:16.33 | sampppa | oh it shouldnt scroll vertical by default? |
| 08:16.49 | sampppa | horizontal i mean |
| 08:17.09 | RST38h | it should not |
| 08:17.22 | RST38h | Appears to be a vertically scrollable list |
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| 08:19.56 | sampppa | yeah it needs HILDON_MOVEMENT_MODE_BOTH to be set |
| 08:20.41 | sampppa | but it says on the bottom of that page, "In this example, horizontal and vertical panning are activated as that is needed to allow users to be able to interact both all the widgets." |
| 08:27.15 | timeless_mbp | a buggy example in beta documentation, wow |
| 08:27.23 | timeless_mbp | if the text is wrong, please file a bug :) |
| 08:27.27 | timeless_mbp | they crave feedback |
| 08:27.40 | sampppa | :) |
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| 08:44.40 | user__ | any application for copy website localy iam on diablo instead chinook? |
| 08:48.16 | thux | hello all, does tear have config file somewhere? i would like to set where to save folder |
| 08:49.15 | user__ | any application for copy website localy iam on diablo instead chinook? |
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| 08:51.34 | thux | user__: wget? |
| 08:51.59 | user__ | wget? |
| 08:52.01 | thux | wget -k -r website.address |
| 08:52.06 | radic_ | how can i write the degree-char? |
| 08:52.25 | thux | if i remember rightly |
| 08:53.02 | thux | first have to install wget |
| 08:53.33 | thux | sudo apt-get install wget |
| 08:54.13 | thux | i don't know if you have to have extras repository |
| 08:54.46 | user__ | no is not in the extra |
| 08:55.26 | radic_ | Stskeeps: you are there? |
| 08:55.26 | user__ | its source or a .deb |
| 08:55.30 | thux | qwerty12: in what repo is wget? |
| 08:55.44 | user__ | please |
| 08:55.56 | qwerty12 | http://maemo.org/development/tools/ |
| 08:56.08 | thux | thanx |
| 08:56.09 | user__ | every go |
| 08:56.16 | user__ | tx qwerty |
| 08:56.21 | user__ | and thux |
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| 08:57.05 | radic_ | qwerty12: can you say me how too wriite special chars like the degree symbol? |
| 08:57.37 | qwerty12 | Dunno, I just use the symbols input on the VKB if I need to use symbols |
| 08:57.38 | RST38h | "Merck created a phony, but real sounding, peer-review journal titled the 'Australasian Journal of Bone and Joint Medicine' to publish data favorable to its products" |
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| 09:02.42 | thux | some websites are quite large remembered pulling easily 500mb with wget -k -r |
| 09:03.49 | thux | some can disable wget if no phony broser header is not set |
| 09:04.10 | thux | browser |
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| 09:09.41 | RST38h | that is easy to work around though :) |
| 09:10.22 | radic_ | qwerty12: ° is not on the software keybord |
| 09:10.58 | qwerty12 | It's always fun to run wget --recursive to get a folder while, all the time, you forgot --no-parent |
| 09:11.59 | thux | some sysadmin downloaded ms-site with wget |
| 09:12.27 | thux | apparently large |
| 09:17.48 | lcuk | microsoft site is really bad for saving - they destroy links after just a few months instead of planning for the future |
| 09:18.24 | lcuk | the number of times i click results and stuff and end up on dead "this page fucked off" holding page is terrible |
| 09:19.00 | thux | ok |
| 09:21.24 | timeless_mbp | lcuk: can i get you to look at a random C change? |
| 09:22.42 | lcuk | with what? |
| 09:22.48 | timeless_mbp | ignore the what |
| 09:22.52 | lcuk | ok |
| 09:22.55 | timeless_mbp | the goal is to change the code w/o changing the logic |
| 09:23.04 | lcuk | as long as you dont want me rebuilding the linux kernel lol |
| 09:23.34 | timeless_mbp | query lcuk |
| 09:23.45 | timeless_mbp | no, don't build anything |
| 09:24.00 | timeless_mbp | just read it and tell me if you see any way that the code's old and new behavior could be different |
| 09:24.17 | timeless_mbp | assume that arrays are not going to change while the code is running and that functions will behave rationally |
| 09:24.43 | lcuk | alright, gimme a few |
| 09:25.14 | mavhc | what's great is when you click links in the WinXP interface and those are broken too |
| 09:28.46 | user__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:29.21 | thux | cd in mmc1 |
| 09:29.24 | lcuk | timeless, your new check "" while(i!=0) "" is different to the old method which would continue while ""i>=0"" |
| 09:30.08 | timeless_mbp | ? |
| 09:30.08 | user__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:30.16 | lcuk | the old method used a for loop |
| 09:30.24 | lcuk | with i >= 0 && some other things |
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| 09:30.27 | thux | user__: cd /media/mmc1 |
| 09:30.44 | lcuk | your new one continues looping only while (i!=0) |
| 09:30.47 | user__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:30.56 | timeless_mbp | right |
| 09:31.04 | lcuk | so you will miss the final char |
| 09:31.12 | lcuk | or first char whichever way its working |
| 09:31.17 | timeless_mbp | will it? |
| 09:31.18 | timeless_mbp | looks |
| 09:31.47 | user__ | but after the downld go in / instead /media/mcc1 |
| 09:32.13 | lcuk | i prefer the readability of the while() loop over the complex for(;;) block :) |
| 09:32.36 | timeless_mbp | lcuk: so, if the string is 0 long, it will return false, right? |
| 09:32.51 | timeless_mbp | and then the only question is what it thinks about the first char in the string... |
| 09:32.55 | lcuk | hmmm you also start from one character further along in the new block |
| 09:33.02 | thux | user__: are you in /media/mmc1 what say pwd? |
| 09:33.18 | lcuk | old: PRInt32 i = pos - 1; |
| 09:33.23 | lcuk | new: PRUint32 i = pos; |
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| 09:33.47 | lcuk | the answer is, yes you have changed the logic and its different :P |
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| 09:33.53 | timeless_mbp | yeah, ok... |
| 09:33.58 | timeless_mbp | sighs and tries to fix |
| 09:34.11 | lcuk | timeless, ive been working with these damned +- 1 adjustments all year ;) |
| 09:34.37 | lcuk | this kind of logic makes liqbase show graphical glitches and drawing too much or too little |
| 09:34.41 | lcuk | they are annoyingto fix |
| 09:34.44 | user__ | yes iam in and sudo |
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| 09:35.07 | thux | strange |
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| 09:35.50 | thux | qwerty12: ain't wget should download in working directory? |
| 09:36.23 | qwerty12 | it should do as far as I am aware |
| 09:36.25 | lcuk | timeless, also if you want me to glance over stuff - i cant read patch files well, i broke it into the 2 final pieces and put them side by side |
| 09:36.43 | timeless_mbp | would -y be better? |
| 09:36.59 | lcuk | i dunno im not a patch machine lol |
| 09:37.20 | lcuk | i didnt know that codebase was in c++ thou |
| 09:37.26 | thux | user__: i try it myself if you wait |
| 09:37.52 | user__ | ok tx for generous help |
| 09:38.23 | lcuk | tick tock - amazing clock designs: http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2009/05/extraordinary-clocks-and-watches.html |
| 09:38.24 | Bobbe | Hey guys. I just got my N800, so I don't know if it should be this way, but is my E71 supposed to access my wifi connection faster than my E71? |
| 09:38.37 | Bobbe | *sorry, than my N800? |
| 09:38.54 | lcuk | erases the witty comment he was typing |
| 09:39.17 | lcuk | Bobbe, dunno what have you noticed speed wise |
| 09:39.32 | timeless_mbp | Bobbe: define access? |
| 09:40.22 | Bobbe | Well, I just tried using the youtube website from my E71, from Canola and from the N800 browser |
| 09:40.26 | Bobbe | Canola is the slowest by far |
| 09:40.31 | Bobbe | the N800 fares very well |
| 09:40.39 | Bobbe | but I see the wifi more responsive to the E71 |
| 09:40.56 | timeless_mbp | see.. wifi is a service |
| 09:41.01 | thux | user__: i got the page in mmc1 when wget -k -r http://somepage.org i didn't use sudo |
| 09:41.27 | Bobbe | I have to use my 3g modem and share it with my router over wifi via ICS (modem doesn't work on Linux, trust me, I tried) |
| 09:42.37 | Bobbe | so I keep looking at the connection icons in my tray (all of them, there are three actually), and when I access something on the internet with my E71, the moment I open the browser the connection lights flash and I see them working |
| 09:43.12 | Bobbe | with the N800 the connection flashes quickly, turns off, waits 2 or 3 seconds, then launches again, but not as fast |
| 09:43.18 | Bobbe | does that make any sense? |
| 09:43.34 | Stskeeps | difference in browser engine maybe |
| 09:44.29 | Bobbe | I dunno, but it doesn't seem like it. The same thing happens with loads of different apps |
| 09:45.06 | AStorm | hello |
| 09:45.17 | Stskeeps | morning AStorm |
| 09:45.26 | Bobbe | whatever tries to access my wifi from the N800 seems to be having a hard time doing it. Could it be related to some config in my router? Something about the channel, or some other config? |
| 09:45.44 | Stskeeps | try disabling power saving and see if it helps |
| 09:45.49 | timeless_mbp | sadly, i can't think of *any* apps which can be used for benchmarking |
| 09:45.51 | user__ | i got it tx |
| 09:45.56 | timeless_mbp | because the platforms are so different |
| 09:46.11 | Bobbe | yeah that's true |
| 09:46.22 | Bobbe | maybe trying to download a given file |
| 09:46.38 | AStorm | Stskeeps, so, it mostly works |
| 09:46.49 | AStorm | what do I have to install to get the adv. battery monitor? |
| 09:47.03 | AStorm | (urls, repo urls wanted) |
| 09:47.06 | Bobbe | how do I disable power save? |
| 09:47.19 | Stskeeps | AStorm: qwerty12 probably knows |
| 09:47.22 | Stskeeps | ~wifi-psm |
| 09:47.23 | infobot | wifi-psm is probably http://wiki.maemo.org/Wifi_Power_Saving_Mode_(PSM) |
| 09:47.25 | Stskeeps | -> Bobbe |
| 09:47.35 | AStorm | yes, in Maemo, it's in connection options |
| 09:47.44 | AStorm | just below transmitter power |
| 09:47.45 | Bobbe | k lemme try |
| 09:48.00 | AStorm | warning - this *will* drain battery |
| 09:48.10 | user__ | and if i want just one kind of file downld in website? |
| 09:49.07 | timeless_mbp | Bobbe: trying to download a file may test browser behaviors more than network behavior |
| 09:49.46 | Bobbe | hm, how so? |
| 09:50.00 | RST38h | Is mov dword ptr <immediate>,edx prohibited ??? |
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| 09:51.18 | timeless_mbp | shrugs |
| 09:52.52 | AStorm | RST38h, in ARM? |
| 09:52.57 | AStorm | ah, no x86 |
| 09:53.03 | RST38h | AStorm: Of course not, x86 |
| 09:53.06 | AStorm | ptr can't go through immediate |
| 09:53.26 | AStorm | it has to go via one of CS, SS |
| 09:53.38 | AStorm | and then SP,BP |
| 09:54.01 | AStorm | you probably want EDP |
| 09:54.15 | AStorm | grr tpyos |
| 09:54.16 | RST38h | What is EDP? |
| 09:54.19 | AStorm | :) EBP |
| 09:54.22 | AStorm | register |
| 09:54.40 | RST38h | All I want is mov dword ptr MAGICKEY,edx when MAGICKEY is a 32bit field |
| 09:54.57 | RST38h | Really weird that MASM does not let this through |
| 09:55.17 | AStorm | then why ptr? |
| 09:55.24 | RST38h | immediate operand not allowed |
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| 09:55.30 | RST38h | mmmm |
| 09:55.31 | AStorm | ptr means "pointing to memory" |
| 09:55.41 | AStorm | drop it and just bump the immediate value |
| 09:55.54 | RST38h | because MAGICKEY points to memory? |
| 09:55.57 | AStorm | it doesn't, if it's an ASM const. |
| 09:56.16 | AStorm | other than that, you have to go via stack registers |
| 09:56.25 | RST38h | I have to do WHAT??? |
| 09:56.35 | AStorm | mov that to EBP |
| 09:56.51 | AStorm | then mov dword ptr EBP, EDX |
| 09:57.14 | RST38h | gives up on AStorm |
| 09:57.53 | AStorm | you can't move immediate ptr to EDX directly, that's why |
| 09:59.09 | AStorm | this is MASM, so it's intel syntax, yes |
| 09:59.39 | AStorm | hmm, going through ESI should work too |
| 09:59.51 | RST38h | I am not moving anything to EDX |
| 10:00.11 | RST38h | I am moving EDX to a 32bit memory location pointed to by MAGICKEY |
| 10:00.15 | AStorm | ah, so *again* I mistook the order |
| 10:00.31 | RST38h | And, of course, I can use ANY register for the dest address not just EBP |
| 10:00.40 | AStorm | wants to kill AT&T and Intel |
| 10:00.58 | AStorm | yes, in extended mode, sorry for the confusion, too much 16-bit recently |
| 10:01.17 | RST38h | The real question is why the hell I can't use an immediate address.... |
| 10:01.37 | AStorm | shouldn't that be @MAGICKEY or such? |
| 10:02.50 | AStorm | again AT&T, meh |
| 10:02.55 | AStorm | this should be [MAGICKEY] |
| 10:02.56 | AStorm | :) |
| 10:03.34 | AStorm | or mov dword ptr offset MAGICKEY, EDX |
| 10:03.41 | AStorm | I got rusty with Intel syntax |
| 10:03.47 | AStorm | one or the other should work |
| 10:05.45 | RST38h | dword ptr MAGICKEY show do the job. |
| 10:05.59 | RST38h | s/show/should |
| 10:06.12 | AStorm | I think yes |
| 10:06.17 | AStorm | no idea why it doesn't |
| 10:06.26 | AStorm | what does MAGICKEY point to? |
| 10:07.40 | AStorm | if you did to [MAGICKEY], you'll write to the contents of it... |
| 10:08.00 | AStorm | s/ll/d/ |
| 10:08.45 | AStorm | mhm, no, to the location it points to |
| 10:08.49 | Bobbe | Ok there's definitely something wrong |
| 10:08.50 | AStorm | which is what you want |
| 10:09.18 | Bobbe | my 3g connection (600kbps) is loading faster than my 2mbps wifi |
| 10:09.52 | AStorm | Bobbe, does it happen with other connections? |
| 10:09.56 | AStorm | I mean, wifi |
| 10:10.27 | Bobbe | I could only test with the one at work |
| 10:10.36 | Bobbe | and that is some slow connection |
| 10:10.39 | Bobbe | could never tell |
| 10:11.08 | Bobbe | maybe I messed something up with my router config? |
| 10:11.45 | AStorm | hard to mess up so bad |
| 10:11.55 | AStorm | but if it's going at 2Mbps, then it's definitely broken |
| 10:12.05 | AStorm | probably packet loss |
| 10:12.12 | AStorm | 3G is resilient OTOH |
| 10:13.29 | Bobbe | TRUE |
| 10:13.31 | Bobbe | sorry |
| 10:13.32 | Bobbe | true |
| 10:13.52 | Bobbe | how can I test/fix this/ |
| 10:13.52 | Bobbe | ? |
| 10:14.00 | Bobbe | try a different router? |
| 10:14.06 | Bobbe | maybe it's the damn ICS thing? |
| 10:14.18 | AStorm | nah, ICS works well... |
| 10:14.46 | RST38h | Some chinese web design studio continues spamming me and the WANT a response |
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| 10:15.20 | AStorm | spamback? |
| 10:15.22 | RST38h | Poor annoying suckers... |
| 10:15.31 | RST38h | Yea, that may be a good idea in this case |
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| 10:25.13 | Bobbe | is there a network activity applet for maemo? |
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| 10:25.57 | Stskeeps | there's in Connection info in the app menu or something |
| 10:26.37 | AStorm | in the menu and control panel too |
| 10:27.22 | Bobbe | thx |
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| 10:36.33 | oilinki | I wonder if anyone have tried to use cdma evdo usb modem with n810? |
| 10:37.08 | AStorm | sure, people did |
| 10:37.28 | AStorm | the problem is that you have to carry the cable |
| 10:37.38 | AStorm | and powered hub too |
| 10:37.47 | AStorm | (as evdo modems need full 500 mA) |
| 10:38.16 | oilinki | AStorm: ok thanks. the power might be the biggest issue. |
| 10:40.17 | oilinki | one option, I was thinkin is to use n810 or 770 as wan connection. eg. Internet - CDMA modem - 770 - router - PC :) |
| 10:41.21 | oilinki | I'm currently using openwrt router with usb-port, but that could be another option. |
| 10:42.29 | AStorm | that's crazy talk |
| 10:42.40 | AStorm | it *is* possible, but indeed crazy |
| 10:43.21 | AStorm | for CDMA you still need a powered hub and possibly another external power source (outlet) |
| 10:43.59 | oilinki | well could be. Anyway now the connection is working. I had to put usb-modem to the roof to be able to get an decent connection. using 10m usb-cable is not the best option either, but it works. |
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| 11:10.13 | lcuk | yerga, are you around |
| 11:10.39 | yerga | lcuk, yes I think so |
| 11:10.51 | lcuk | heh, whats your blog page link |
| 11:11.04 | yerga | yerga.net/blog |
| 11:11.06 | lcuk | ive got someone asking about gtk widgets and what can be included |
| 11:12.09 | lcuk | sampppa, step out of the shadows and ask ffs :D |
| 11:12.11 | AStorm | hey, I messed up root pass in Mer I think |
| 11:12.16 | AStorm | how can I fix this? |
| 11:12.36 | lcuk | same way you fix root password forgetfullness anywhere else |
| 11:13.00 | AStorm | boot single and run passwd? a bit hard :P |
| 11:13.02 | lcuk | my finger looks like ET |
| 11:13.07 | sampppa | yerga: is it possible to put hildon pannablea area in gtkfixed container ? |
| 11:13.25 | yerga | sampppa, I haven't tested it |
| 11:13.30 | yerga | but I imagine so |
| 11:13.41 | sampppa | yerga: so that it would work |
| 11:13.44 | yerga | pannable area is similar to scrollwindow |
| 11:13.50 | lcuk | hildon extensions are just subclassed gtk widgets arent they |
| 11:14.07 | AStorm | ah, I didn't |
| 11:14.09 | sampppa | and scrollwindow works in gtkfixed ? |
| 11:14.12 | AStorm | just wrong kb layout |
| 11:14.18 | lcuk | heh astorm |
| 11:14.31 | yerga | sampppa, if it doesn't work with a simple 'add' |
| 11:14.42 | lcuk | gory ET finger picture after stitches removed :O http://liqbase.net/finger_macro.jpg |
| 11:14.46 | yerga | try with 'add_with_viewport' |
| 11:15.28 | sampppa | yerga: ok gonna try |
| 11:15.39 | AStorm | lcuk, aaargh my brain! ;) |
| 11:15.45 | yerga | sampppa, tell us if it works ;) |
| 11:15.46 | Stskeeps | lcuk: auch |
| 11:16.55 | Jaffa | lcuk: was the trip worth the pain? |
| 11:17.33 | lcuk | absolutely - i had said i would give my right hand to go - i really didnt think nokia would take it literally |
| 11:17.46 | Jaffa | heh |
| 11:18.21 | sampppa | :) |
| 11:19.46 | lcuk | jaffa, this week of not really coding has been good as well, when i recover and get going i know what i have to do |
| 11:20.01 | GAN800 | yerga, see the Ars article? |
| 11:20.08 | yerga | GAN800, yes |
| 11:20.16 | yerga | I'm famous now :P |
| 11:20.21 | GAN800 | Hehe |
| 11:20.24 | lcuk | im moving liqbase from the private .git server to maemo garage soon as well |
| 11:24.22 | pupnik | got pix of the hand lcuk? |
| 11:24.30 | lcuk | i just posted it |
| 11:24.39 | pupnik | i see it |
| 11:25.16 | pupnik | looks worse than mine |
| 11:25.34 | pupnik | <- also put hand through a door 2 weeks ago |
| 11:25.41 | pupnik | glass |
| 11:26.01 | lcuk | how did you manage that! |
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| 11:26.40 | pupnik | punched the window in |
| 11:27.09 | pupnik | to make a point |
| 11:27.16 | lcuk | :S |
| 11:29.46 | GeneralAntilles | pupnik, betting that the glass wasn't fist-proof? :P |
| 11:30.48 | pupnik | twas not mah frieahn |
| 11:30.56 | pupnik | bbl lunch |
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| 11:41.22 | sampppa | yerga: yeah it works |
| 11:41.45 | yerga | sampppa, ok, cool |
| 11:42.44 | lcuk | \o/ nice |
| 11:43.33 | sampppa | yerga: at least if i put hildon pannable area on gtk table and gtktable on gtkfixed |
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| 12:07.44 | AStorm | mmmh, Mer has Python 2.6.2 |
| 12:08.10 | AStorm | will we get an update for Chinook/Diablo too? |
| 12:09.10 | Stskeeps | not sure |
| 12:09.24 | Stskeeps | mer has python2.6 cos ubuntu has it :P |
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| 12:14.16 | AStorm | ok, any todo app I can grab right now? |
| 12:15.02 | Stskeeps | "osmo", maybe |
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| 12:17.34 | AStorm | and there's gtodo too, and other random stuff |
| 12:17.41 | AStorm | I need that list in app manager too |
| 12:18.22 | AStorm | btw, do add less to the next one |
| 12:18.27 | AStorm | next version of Mer |
| 12:18.47 | Stskeeps | *nod* |
| 12:24.59 | AStorm | hey, it is there, wth? |
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| 13:05.25 | AStorm | Stskeeps, maemopad+ change directory dialog is thoroughly broken |
| 13:05.42 | Stskeeps | we're lacking icons, it's the new hildon file chooser |
| 13:06.27 | Macer | wow |
| 13:06.37 | Macer | that pacquiao fight was just a brutal ass kicking |
| 13:06.38 | Stskeeps | lo macer |
| 13:06.47 | Macer | hi Stskeeps |
| 13:07.11 | Macer | hatton got killed and that last punch hurt me and i was only watching it on television |
| 13:07.14 | AStorm | Stskeeps, also, this time it seems adv. backlight exploded |
| 13:07.21 | AStorm | on the reboot |
| 13:07.39 | AStorm | now it doesn't change the backlight level |
| 13:07.49 | Stskeeps | hmm |
| 13:08.22 | thux | i got 'cannot preserve ownership of' when move files to mmc, is it cause of dosfs in mmc? would it be good to format mmcs to ext2? |
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| 13:11.42 | AStorm | Stskeeps, more importantly, all hildon-fm is broken |
| 13:11.51 | AStorm | this includes tiny file manager |
| 13:11.58 | Stskeeps | *nod* |
| 13:12.25 | AStorm | hmmh, and "close this app" applet is missing an icon |
| 13:12.31 | AStorm | add some X or another :) |
| 13:13.40 | Stskeeps | hmm? the rightmost one? |
| 13:13.54 | Stskeeps | or the applet you can enable which shouldn't be there in the first place :P |
| 13:14.05 | AStorm | yes, that one, which is excellent usability |
| 13:14.12 | AStorm | *do* fix it :) |
| 13:14.17 | AStorm | just needs an icon or sth |
| 13:14.52 | Stskeeps | the rightmost one in http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v119/JohnX/?action=view¤t=zaurus-google-maps.png ? |
| 13:15.36 | Macer | wonder how much i can download before tmob cuts my connection |
| 13:15.48 | Macer | i should just leave it downloading for like 4 days straight and see what happens |
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| 13:34.04 | Stskeeps | who is muru.com btw? |
| 13:37.21 | suihkulokki | Stskeeps: try the command "whois muru.com" :9 |
| 13:38.13 | Stskeeps | that'd be too easy ;> |
| 13:39.10 | Stskeeps | really wonders what it would take to bring n8x0 kernel to be sane on newer versions |
| 13:39.32 | Stskeeps | other than loss of sanity, that is |
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| 13:48.08 | alphalux | can someone clue me into a cron daemon for diablo? I found an extremely old binary from some obscure place, and it's functionality was a bit obscure. |
| 13:50.28 | lopz | hola |
| 13:51.22 | AStorm | Stskeeps, hmmh? |
| 13:51.29 | AStorm | rightmost? I can see no icon there |
| 13:51.33 | AStorm | unless you mean the picker |
| 13:51.49 | AStorm | I mean the unselected "Close window" applet |
| 13:51.49 | Stskeeps | AStorm: the rightmost moon like thing :P |
| 13:51.51 | Stskeeps | ah |
| 13:51.59 | Stskeeps | well it just needs an icon then it probably works |
| 13:51.59 | AStorm | which works, but needs an icon |
| 13:52.12 | AStorm | draw some X and be done with it :) |
| 13:52.14 | Stskeeps | hehe |
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| 13:53.21 | AStorm | and the X buttons in the switcher need to be larger |
| 13:53.26 | AStorm | they're not finger-friendly |
| 13:53.29 | Stskeeps | yeah |
| 13:53.56 | Stskeeps | file a bug or add to wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Sprints/0.13 really |
| 13:54.10 | Stskeeps | my memory is shot so it's better to add it or report it, or noone will pick it up |
| 13:56.14 | lcuk | make some icon so god damned afwul that ppl offer new ones |
| 13:56.30 | lcuk | red background and yellow X or something |
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| 14:06.56 | airtonarantes | I have installed here maemo emulator and I've already tested some apps, but I don't understand why when I call the python interpreter I can't import nothing about gtk or PyQt4(these are installed).But some example that I did works fine. Does anyone here can explain me? |
| 14:08.10 | qwerty12_N800 | You're running "python2.5" as opposed to "python"? |
| 14:08.33 | airtonarantes | the imports statements don't work directly on terminal, only when I run the application using "run-standalone ./program.py" |
| 14:08.48 | crashanddie | qwerty12_N800, OH. MY. GOD. |
| 14:10.09 | qwerty12_N800 | lol, hi crashanddie |
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| 14:10.44 | zeev | Hi, will the new Nokia tablet be able to connect with GPRS and run skype? |
| 14:11.32 | crashanddie | zeev, sure, apparently we'll even be able to use the Apple App Store |
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| 14:12.00 | crashanddie | zeev, it is unsure if RIM will allow access to the Blackberry app store though, so we're still negotiating on that |
| 14:13.00 | crashanddie | zeev, finally, because of Lex Nokia, we've now been able to pinpoint that a fair percentage of Nokia employees believe in Santa (being in Finland and all), so the next version of the devices will only work within the arctic circle |
| 14:13.29 | Stskeeps | deep sarcasm there :P |
| 14:14.31 | crashanddie | ya think? |
| 14:14.32 | crashanddie | :P |
| 14:15.05 | airtonarantes | qwerty12_N800: great success, it works very well with python2.5, thank you very much |
| 14:18.02 | lcuk | until the upgrade to python 2.6 comes out |
| 14:18.46 | thux | personally i didn't understand all the noise about lex nokia |
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| 14:19.59 | lcuk | personally i didnt hear too much noise about it |
| 14:20.38 | thux | i was in sendmail post list long time a go and common question was howto cc boss every mail sent out |
| 14:22.39 | thux | probably now all postfix and exim admins has samekind of configs |
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| 14:23.28 | crashanddie | qwerty12_N800, so, when you coming off age? Might be time for us to catch that beer, don't ya think? |
| 14:24.48 | qwerty12_N800 | crashanddie: lol, about 1 year & 6 months |
| 14:25.58 | crashanddie | dayum |
| 14:31.27 | AStorm | Stskeeps, seems like vkb is ignoring the keyboard_available setting |
| 14:31.34 | AStorm | and is always show |
| 14:31.36 | AStorm | *shown |
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| 14:31.48 | AStorm | how do I disable this useless PoS |
| 14:32.02 | AStorm | also, the xkb applet doesn't work |
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| 14:33.27 | Stskeeps | AStorm: edit /usr/bin/start-hildon and remove hildon-input-method. |
| 14:35.08 | AStorm | mhmmm, so it's a script :) |
| 14:35.38 | Firebird | Does anyone know the forced window size in hildon (windowed mode)? |
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| 14:36.21 | airtonarantes | Folks, I'm with a problem using pyqt to do a simple app. please, see http://pastebin.com/m725cc69d . What's wrong? |
| 14:37.21 | qwerty12_N800 | Firebird: around 720x435 |
| 14:37.25 | Firebird | thanks |
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| 14:46.25 | Meizirkki | fremantle will have Opera based browser? |
| 14:46.37 | Stskeeps | eh? :P |
| 14:47.08 | Meizirkki | There is "X-OperaSkin=default.zip" in their index.theme |
| 14:47.16 | Stskeeps | ah, that's a leftover from 2007 times |
| 14:47.21 | Stskeeps | well, or 2006 |
| 14:47.26 | Meizirkki | okay |
| 14:47.27 | Stskeeps | there -used- to be opera |
| 14:49.39 | AStorm | Stskeeps, hmm, matchbox is broken |
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| 14:49.53 | AStorm | I get in some places a dialog to allow access to my keyring |
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| 14:50.08 | AStorm | and stupid matchbox places previous dialog windows on top of it |
| 14:50.14 | AStorm | and there's no way to access that window |
| 14:50.19 | Stskeeps | aware of it, -- feel free to write it down |
| 14:50.43 | Stskeeps | somewhere, so we can pick up on it :) |
| 14:51.29 | AStorm | I'm not much into writing - feel free to copy and paste |
| 14:51.41 | Stskeeps | mm |
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| 14:52.36 | slonopotamus | lazy :P |
| 14:52.43 | lcuk | astorm u know more about issues and its better if described by you, Stskeeps will tell you where, you paste it in |
| 14:53.10 | AStorm | that I can do... :P |
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| 15:01.36 | xnt | is thinking of setting up a linuxmce setup because maemo has an orbiter app :) |
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| 15:52.00 | Macer | hm |
| 15:52.11 | Macer | i wonder why this xforwarding is going so slow over my phone |
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| 15:56.18 | lcuk | the electrons have trouble moving down curly phone wires |
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| 15:56.21 | lcuk | u need to straighten the wire |
| 15:56.31 | Macer | or the xserver on the macbook is set to too high of a color? :) |
| 15:56.32 | Macer | heh |
| 15:57.07 | Macer | and it's a cell ;) no curly phone lines on it |
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| 15:57.56 | Macer | but it's seriously going slow as shit ... don't know why |
| 15:58.01 | Macer | everything else is going an ok speed |
| 15:58.04 | lcuk | is it normally so slow? |
| 15:58.19 | Macer | i honestly never really used it over the cell before |
| 15:58.22 | Macer | goes fast enough over wifi |
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| 15:58.38 | Macer | the cell gives me like 90K/s so have no idea what is slowing it down like that |
| 15:58.46 | Macer | plus i'm typing in the same ssh screen with no lag |
| 15:58.49 | Macer | strange |
| 16:00.20 | Macer | wtf |
| 16:00.43 | Macer | ugh. i just need to change one thing :) |
| 16:00.57 | Macer | piece of shit heh... ah well.. i'll just do it when i get home. guess it isn't that serious |
| 16:01.16 | Macer | i should have opened up this port a long time ago... whatever.. i'm going to head home. later |
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| 16:27.28 | Macer | blah. this is starting to get on my damn nerves |
| 16:27.34 | Macer | i will just have to wait til i get home... grrr |
| 16:28.29 | Macer | i figured 90K/s would be fast enough for ssh xforwarding |
| 16:28.32 | Macer | GUESS NOT |
| 16:28.39 | ShadowJK_ | hah |
| 16:28.48 | ShadowJK_ | It depends on the app |
| 16:29.08 | Macer | was trying ff |
| 16:29.09 | Macer | heh |
| 16:29.10 | ShadowJK_ | IME QT doesn't do as much extra pointless crap so it works better over slow links |
| 16:29.17 | ShadowJK_ | Yeah, ff is really terrible |
| 16:29.28 | ShadowJK_ | konqueror is better iirc |
| 16:29.47 | Macer | konqueror is almost as bad as opera |
| 16:29.47 | Macer | :) |
| 16:29.56 | Macer | i need something to work with actual java support |
| 16:30.14 | ShadowJK_ | I haven't tested opera over slow X, but it's probably not as bad as ff |
| 16:30.37 | Macer | i'm sure it's not... but i need something that actually works with ajax |
| 16:31.11 | ShadowJK_ | speaking of java, ff consistently failed on that for me today |
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| 16:31.32 | ShadowJK_ | Like, I could switch windows, and it'd redraw them, and the java applet was running okay, but firefox ignored all other UI input... |
| 16:31.46 | ShadowJK_ | This was kinda new |
| 16:31.53 | Macer | well.. maybe i can use opera just to set up the port |
| 16:32.00 | Macer | i just need to get on a local browser to change the nat of my router |
| 16:32.23 | ShadowJK_ | You'd be better off using vnc on that slow a connection really |
| 16:32.43 | Macer | yeah i know.. but vnc isn't encrypted |
| 16:32.53 | ShadowJK_ | neither is X |
| 16:33.06 | Macer | it is when ssh forwarding pkts |
| 16:33.14 | ShadowJK_ | same for vnc |
| 16:33.30 | Macer | you mean run vnc in ssh? :) |
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| 16:33.47 | ShadowJK_ | eh? |
| 16:33.55 | Macer | you said X isn't encrypted |
| 16:33.57 | ShadowJK_ | ssh gives you encrypted pipe |
| 16:34.06 | ipndrmath | Sorry to interrupt. What is better for speed and reliability: Placing OS2008 of my N810 on the internal 2G memory or a 8G Class 6 microSDHC card? |
| 16:34.11 | ShadowJK_ | you can forward arbitrary ports over ssh |
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| 16:34.43 | ShadowJK_ | so with -L 5900:localhost:5900 then connecting to the local localhost 5900 would make sshd on the remote host connect to the remote host's localhost ;-) |
| 16:35.20 | Macer | that's kind of ghetto :) |
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| 16:36.40 | Macer | opera is going slow too.. i guess it's just an overall xfowarding thing |
| 16:37.07 | ShadowJK_ | It's slow even over wlan :) |
| 16:37.10 | Macer | then again i'm doing this on a macbook so there is probably something jacked up with the osx xserver |
| 16:37.15 | ShadowJK_ | on gigabit it's approaching usable |
| 16:37.23 | Macer | no |
| 16:37.25 | Macer | wifi is ok |
| 16:37.35 | Macer | not bad at all.. but over my damn cell it's killing me |
| 16:37.49 | ShadowJK_ | X is too fast so developers don't notice if they do stupid things :) |
| 16:37.50 | Stskeeps | latency is bigger on cell afaik |
| 16:38.33 | Macer | it's not lagging talking on irc too badly? |
| 16:38.36 | Macer | :) |
| 16:38.55 | Macer | and i'm ssh'd to the same box using irssi... you can hardly notice the lag |
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| 16:39.09 | ShadowJK_ | yeah well, 3 vs 30 vs 300ms isn't noticeable over ssh |
| 16:39.15 | Macer | i suppose i will just set up vnc on it for now |
| 16:39.23 | ShadowJK_ | but it's noticeable of GTK doees something stupid that requires 300 round-trips to X |
| 16:39.28 | ShadowJK_ | if* |
| 16:40.20 | ShadowJK_ | NX might be able to remove some of those roundtrips, but I wouldn't want to use NX on highlatency either :) |
| 16:40.26 | ipndrmath | Okay. I'm going to multi-task. So if anyone has an answer to my question please call out to me, i.e. ipndrmath: |
| 16:41.23 | Macer | which is pointless now because i can't set up the port forwarding to get to the box because i need to use a local web browser :) |
| 16:41.31 | Macer | looks like i'm really stuck til i get home |
| 16:41.43 | ShadowJK_ | huh you've already got ssh |
| 16:41.50 | ShadowJK_ | you can port forward through that |
| 16:42.43 | Macer | yeah i suppose... blah... i'm too lazy now .. i'm at work and i want to walk around a bit |
| 16:42.47 | Macer | :) |
| 16:42.48 | Macer | i'm falling asleep |
| 16:43.43 | ShadowJK_ | ipndrmath, if I would want to find that out, I'd run iozone with a dataset twice of four times as big as RAM, concentrating on the 4K random read and random write performance. The "Class 6" stuff is only specified for sequential write speed, which says nothing about random read/write speed, which has more of an impact on general OS use :) |
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| 16:45.33 | Stskeeps | jeremiah_: idea: tests in maemian that shows the package has a strong reliance on being built in scratchbox |
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| 16:45.54 | Stskeeps | for example links to /scratchbox in the source package, etc |
| 16:49.14 | ipndrmath | ShadowJK_: Hmm okay. Darn, I thought it would be an easy answer. Do you have an idea as to where the results may lean? Thanks for your help. |
| 16:50.23 | ShadowJK_ | no idea :) |
| 16:51.16 | ShadowJK_ | let me see if I can get it compiled on the device though |
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| 16:52.07 | ipndrmath | okay. thanks. There seems to be a repository, albeit chinook, for it |
| 16:52.22 | ipndrmath | debfarm, specifically |
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| 17:11.10 | ShadowJK_ | running it now on my Class 6 |
| 17:11.15 | ShadowJK_ | class 6 microsdhc |
| 17:11.54 | ipndrmath | cool thanks. I don't have my mini adapter yet, So I couldn't run this. Thanks for all your help |
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| 17:21.35 | ShadowJK_ | On my N810, 8Gbyte Class 6 microsdhc, 128M test file, 4K record size. Sequential write: 6135 Sequential read: 6423 Random read: 2029 random write: 791 |
| 17:21.39 | ShadowJK_ | (kbyte/s) |
| 17:22.58 | ipndrmath | okay. Could you run it on the internal 2g card? Do smaller numbers mean quicker? |
| 17:24.09 | ShadowJK_ | smaller is slower |
| 17:24.17 | ShadowJK_ | Yeah I'll run it on internal |
| 17:24.20 | ShadowJK_ | it just takes some time to run |
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| 17:25.44 | ipndrmath | That was a stupid question after you told me kbyte/s, sorry |
| 17:25.47 | ipndrmath | Thanks |
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| 17:26.22 | PowerGrid | hi |
| 17:27.36 | ipndrmath | hi |
| 17:27.40 | PowerGrid | has anyone encountered hildon-input-method running hot on diablo lately? |
| 17:28.26 | ipndrmath | I haven't noticed, but I haven't been looking. Hot as in heavy CPU? |
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| 17:28.48 | ipndrmath | *CPU Load |
| 17:29.20 | PowerGrid | ipndrmath yes two processes one running at 90% or higher |
| 17:30.26 | ipndrmath | No, I haven't. Does it lag up your machine |
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| 17:31.25 | PowerGrid | yes I have to go kill it to make the system useable and prevent battery usage |
| 17:31.50 | PowerGrid | unneccessary battery usage |
| 17:32.02 | Dantonic | Is there such a file as 'fstab' in ubuntu for os2008 where someone could permanently mount a network location? |
| 17:33.01 | PowerGrid | dantonic i haven't loaded ubuntu on os2008 but there should be ... however |
| 17:33.42 | ipndrmath | Oh. Have you been screwing around at all on that level? |
| 17:33.48 | PowerGrid | if your start-up scripts do not call mount -a or mount -T nfs -a then it does nothing for you |
| 17:34.34 | Dantonic | PowerGrid, no, what i meant is just on maemo is there such a file, i don't have ubuntu installed on the nit, i'm just looking for a way to permanently mount a network location |
| 17:34.51 | PowerGrid | let me check |
| 17:35.21 | qwerty12 | ~lart diablo autobuilder |
| 17:35.22 | infobot | eats diablo autobuilder and falls over dead |
| 17:35.47 | Dantonic | ? |
| 17:35.57 | qwerty12 | An annoyance of mine |
| 17:36.11 | PowerGrid | dantonic so it does exist as a file and you should be able to update it |
| 17:36.49 | PowerGrid | however check /proc/filesystems to see if the kernel can handle nfs or smbfs or cifs |
| 17:37.20 | Dantonic | where is it located? |
| 17:37.30 | PowerGrid | /etc/fstab |
| 17:37.57 | Dantonic | ah kk |
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| 17:38.49 | PowerGrid | but let me check which rc script neeeds to be update to make it work though |
| 17:39.33 | Dantonic | powergrid, how can i edit it from the command lline? what's the call to open it with leafpad? |
| 17:40.18 | PowerGrid | i haven't used leafpad i normally use vi from busybox |
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| 17:40.33 | PowerGrid | so i would run vi /etc/fstab |
| 17:40.58 | yerga | qwerty12, thanks for the post on -developers |
| 17:41.16 | Dantonic | i suck at vi, is there a way i could make leafpad open it? |
| 17:41.19 | yerga | qwerty12, I have been three days waiting for a package |
| 17:41.37 | PowerGrid | dantonic I don't see why not |
| 17:41.46 | qwerty12 | yerga: 3 days! :( |
| 17:42.25 | qwerty12 | I'm waiting for the python-vte bindings to be transferred >.< |
| 17:42.27 | PowerGrid | how ever i'm not sure if you load leafpad manually that you'll be able to edit the file you need root access to modify it |
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| 17:43.51 | Dantonic | powergrid i suck at linux just trying to figure out the command. 'leafpad /etc/fstab' doesn't work |
| 17:44.21 | ipndrmath | ShadowJK_ : Any word? |
| 17:44.29 | PowerGrid | do a which leafpad to see where it is |
| 17:44.33 | ShadowJK_ | not yet |
| 17:45.02 | ipndrmath | Hmm... well if the time is any indication, I'm guessing the Class 6 will be faster |
| 17:45.13 | ipndrmath | *time to complete |
| 17:45.17 | Dantonic | powergrid it's in usr/bin/ |
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| 17:45.43 | PowerGrid | so try /usr/bin/leafpad /etc/leafpad |
| 17:46.33 | PowerGrid | but if you're in root you may not be able to start the app as X may not permit you |
| 17:48.00 | Dantonic | ah that's what it was, i got out of root and 'leafpad /etc/fstab' worked. |
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| 17:48.09 | Dantonic | thanks! |
| 17:49.07 | qwerty12_N800 | 'run-standalone.sh leafpad /etc/fstab' to run it as root BTW |
| 17:49.37 | PowerGrid | dantonic no problem |
| 17:49.44 | Dantonic | ok ty |
| 17:50.54 | Dantonic | now if i specify a windows network location i have to include 'cifs' in the command right? |
| 17:51.25 | ShadowJK_ | ipndrmath, Oh I haven't started the test on internal yet |
| 17:51.48 | ShadowJK_ | I'm running with record sizes 4 to 512k to see how much faster it is with more sequential access |
| 17:52.06 | PowerGrid | dantonic yes ... but also make sure it is loaded in the kernel |
| 17:52.24 | ShadowJK_ | Starting on internal now :) |
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| 17:52.34 | Dantonic | What's the command to reload fstab without rebooting? |
| 17:52.58 | Dantonic | oh powergrid how do i make sure it's loaded? |
| 17:53.25 | PowerGrid | cat /proc/filesystems |
| 17:56.44 | Dantonic | powergrid, hmm cifs is not loaded, but why is my filemanager sometimes able to recognize that windows partition anyway? is it using a different file system? |
| 17:57.50 | Dantonic | ah, when i do a mount i see it is currently loading it as tmpfs |
| 17:57.53 | PowerGrid | i think it's using upnp |
| 17:58.53 | ShadowJK_ | On my N810, internal mmc, 128M test file, 4K record size. Sequential write: 6100 Sequential read: 7510 Random read: 2018 random write: 978 |
| 18:00.25 | ipndrmath | OH! so the Internal is quicker? |
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| 18:00.42 | ipndrmath | for write anyway |
| 18:02.00 | ShadowJK_ | hm |
| 18:02.08 | ShadowJK_ | I'd say it's too close to mean anything :) |
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| 18:02.17 | ipndrmath | True. |
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| 18:02.21 | ShadowJK_ | I'd clone to internal |
| 18:02.29 | ShadowJK_ | and keep the card swappable |
| 18:02.42 | ipndrmath | Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Cool. |
| 18:02.43 | ShadowJK_ | this is with hispeed mmc kernel btw |
| 18:03.00 | Dantonic | heh won't let me save over the old fstab |
| 18:03.01 | ShadowJK_ | though I hadn't locked cpu speed :/ |
| 18:03.09 | ipndrmath | hispeed mmc kernel? |
| 18:03.45 | ShadowJK_ | http://intr.overt.org/blog/?p=71 |
| 18:04.58 | ipndrmath | Hmm... do you suggest I patch? |
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| 18:08.22 | ipndrmath | Okay. Well anyway. Thank you ShadowJK_ for your help and the link to the custom kernel. I'll consider it. |
| 18:08.37 | Stskeeps | hmm, does the maemo statusbar go right to left? |
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| 18:09.53 | ShadowJK_ | yeah |
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| 18:30.55 | RST38h | AStorm: here? |
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| 18:46.08 | jeremiah_ | Hey qwerty12_N800 |
| 18:46.12 | Stskeeps | lo jeremiah_ :) |
| 18:46.25 | jeremiah_ | Stskeeps: Hi 'keeps? How is everything? |
| 18:46.47 | jeremiah_ | /'keeps?/'keeps!/ |
| 18:46.59 | qwerty12_N800 | Hi jeremiah_, was in the process of typing a reply but IRC may be faster :P :) |
| 18:47.01 | Stskeeps | sts ;) |
| 18:47.18 | jeremiah_ | Stskeeps: :) |
| 18:47.20 | Stskeeps | jeremiah_: well, good - doing some homework and rather surprised over https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mobile-mid-karmic-use-mer - but it will hopefully bring quality packages to all of us |
| 18:47.44 | jeremiah_ | Stskeeps: You rock. |
| 18:47.50 | jeremiah_ | Stskeeps: That just proves it. |
| 18:48.03 | Stskeeps | and i'm also absolutely crap at packaging :> |
| 18:48.21 | jeremiah_ | Stskeeps: Ubuntu is basing its MID strategy on your work? |
| 18:48.31 | Stskeeps | jeremiah_: (that does not imply that Mer would be a ubuntu project, but more like working on common packages and packaging) |
| 18:48.34 | jeremiah_ | Stskeeps: Dude, quit school, call Canonical, get some money for your work. |
| 18:48.40 | jeremiah_ | :) |
| 18:48.56 | jeremiah_ | Actually, don't quit school. |
| 18:49.04 | jeremiah_ | School is good. |
| 18:49.17 | Stskeeps | i would fail the first packaging exaxm |
| 18:49.17 | qwerty12_N800 | jeremiah_: thank you for reindexing the packages, the autobuider usually runs awesomely - maybe it just got used to the Finnish holiday :) |
| 18:49.18 | Stskeeps | exam |
| 18:49.18 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 18:49.55 | jeremiah_ | qwerty12_N800: Sorry it broke. :( I think there is something seriously wrong since this is the second time in about four days. |
| 18:50.10 | jeremiah_ | Stskeeps: There are no packaging exams! |
| 18:50.18 | jeremiah_ | Stskeeps: You make it up as you go along. |
| 18:50.49 | jeremiah_ | qwerty12_N800: I am going to bring this up at the sprint - the autobuilder cannot eat source packages. |
| 18:51.12 | Stskeeps | jeremiah_: and i just compiled my first Maemo kernel + modules today with OBS, so that's neat :> |
| 18:51.29 | Stskeeps | and compiling the openmoko kernel right now |
| 18:51.55 | jeremiah_ | Holy shit, very cool. |
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| 18:52.08 | jeremiah_ | But isn't Openmoko dead? |
| 18:52.09 | zecrazytux | hi |
| 18:52.15 | Stskeeps | jeremiah_: they still sell but not develop sw |
| 18:52.42 | zecrazytux | I've installed espeak on my n810, but I cannot get any sound... did anyone tried ? |
| 18:52.58 | zakkm | you guys heard of wolfram alpha? |
| 18:53.04 | qwerty12_N800 | jeremiah_: heh, I just hope python-vte source packge is there, it took me time to seperate that one from vte :) - but a massive thank you for your responiveness |
| 18:53.07 | Stskeeps | jeremiah_: http://goshawknest.wordpress.com/2009/05/03/maemomer-on-freerunner-half-ported/ |
| 18:53.32 | jeremiah_ | zakkm: Wolfram is a software development company - they created Mathematica. |
| 18:53.42 | jeremiah_ | zakkm: Google is your friend. |
| 18:53.49 | zakkm | apparently they are making a search engine |
| 18:53.50 | Stskeeps | .. and google uses linear algebra for their pagerank |
| 18:53.50 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 18:53.53 | zakkm | http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/see_wolfram_alpha_in_action_-_video_and_screenshots.php |
| 18:54.23 | jeremiah_ | qwerty12_N800: My pleasure qwerty12_N800, again, I feel a bit responsible being the debmaster and all, but I didn't really build the autobuilder. |
| 18:54.43 | jeremiah_ | qwerty12_N800: I will try to get it fixed though. |
| 18:55.16 | Stskeeps | jeremiah_: at least you're the debmaster right now and not dealing with the iTT rebels :> |
| 18:55.23 | qwerty12_N800 | Yeah, I just blame it for thinking i can have some R&R due to the Finnish holiday :D |
| 18:55.40 | qwerty12_N800 | s/ingg i/it/ |
| 18:55.42 | jeremiah_ | qwerty12_N800: Holiday here in Sweden too. |
| 18:55.56 | jeremiah_ | These Scandinavians love their holidays! |
| 18:56.11 | jeremiah_ | Stskeeps: iTT rebels - they scare me. |
| 18:56.16 | qwerty12_N800 | Hehe, hope it was a good one! :) |
| 18:56.38 | jeremiah_ | qwerty12_N800: I worked in the woods all weekend, _very_ Scandinavian! |
| 18:56.40 | jeremiah_ | :) |
| 18:56.54 | slonopotamus | 'there is gps, gsm, wireless and bluetooth support but iâm not able to test them ATM until we will not solve the GUI issues' wtf? |
| 18:57.15 | Stskeeps | slonopotamus: as in, we get the ui working first, then the tech stuff is more fun :P |
| 18:57.47 | slonopotamus | huh. i first got wifi working, only then usable gui |
| 18:57.48 | qwerty12_N800 | jeremiah_: hehe, mind shipping some over? I need large amounts of paper... :P |
| 18:58.00 | Stskeeps | slonopotamus: ah, i got usbnet working first. priorities |
| 18:58.01 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 18:58.13 | Stskeeps | slonopotamus: also, the pieces for GSM, GPS, etc are already there |
| 18:58.56 | Stskeeps | we just need to integrate them |
| 18:58.59 | slonopotamus | i wonder if there's someone brave enough to make tablets run on newer kernel... |
| 18:59.10 | jeremiah_ | Stskeeps: I like your maemian / scratchbox test |
| 18:59.10 | Stskeeps | slonopotamus: solca :P |
| 18:59.15 | jeremiah_ | Stskeeps: That makes sense to me. |
| 18:59.33 | Stskeeps | jeremiah_: they are so damn irritating to clean up afterwards :P |
| 18:59.46 | slonopotamus | Stskeeps, who is solca? |
| 18:59.51 | Stskeeps | slonopotamus: nitdroid guy |
| 18:59.51 | zecrazytux | nobody's using espeak (or at least know why it does not work on my n810, without any error) ? |
| 19:00.03 | slonopotamus | Stskeeps, oh |
| 19:00.06 | jeremiah_ | Stskeeps: Yeah, any idea like that which makes the packagers life easier I think is worth doing. |
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| 19:00.33 | Stskeeps | jeremiah_: other silly things can be running autoconf when not build-dep on autoconf.. and so forth |
| 19:00.38 | Stskeeps | many funny things to test for |
| 19:01.29 | Stskeeps | (that's a scratchboxism: people think autoconf is always there, but you can't rely on that Maemo6 will have scratchbox automatically installed, or autoconf provided) |
| 19:01.52 | Stskeeps | or if you build on other OSes using normal builders, autoconf isn't there unless you build-dep on it :) |
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| 19:02.56 | Stskeeps | but i think we can discuss this further some other time |
| 19:03.10 | Stskeeps | we're building a bunch of Extras packages right now to find the common patterns |
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| 19:04.49 | jeremiah_ | Stskeeps: Yes indeed. |
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| 19:06.37 | jpereira | somebody using HP/Ipaq folding keyboard in NXXX? |
| 19:07.08 | Stskeeps | er, don't they have a properitary port or how was it? |
| 19:07.25 | Stskeeps | at least my ipaq 3630 one does :P |
| 19:07.36 | jpereira | hehe |
| 19:08.06 | qwerty12_N800 | jpereira: if it's bluetooth, tried kbdd: http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/ ? |
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| 19:08.10 | RST38h | has looked into the monster's eyes today |
| 19:08.35 | Stskeeps | mm? |
| 19:08.42 | Stskeeps | you have flu A? :P |
| 19:08.53 | RST38h | Given two instructions: mov eax,dword ptr 666 and mov eax,dword ptr ds:666 what will the difference be, you think? |
| 19:08.56 | jpereira | qwerty12_N800: just, i get and try kbdd... but make changes and make patch for optimize the kbdd. |
| 19:10.00 | jpereira | i using now the kbdd and works fine, i think that maybe had other alternative for kbdd. thanks qwerty12_N800 |
| 19:10.27 | qwerty12_N800 | Ah :) |
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| 19:11.05 | jpereira | qwerty12_N800: the keyboard works in my n800 and my desktop! ;) |
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| 19:23.23 | mikkov_ | qwerty12_N800: do you delete your source packages once they are ready? :) |
| 19:24.13 | qwerty12_N800 | mikkov_: after I've uploaded... I now see this isn't a good habit... :) |
| 19:24.29 | mikkov_ | you like to live dangerously :) |
| 19:24.50 | jeremiah_ | There is a tool in debian that makes new packages out of packages you have already built, so it can be good to keep old packages around. |
| 19:24.58 | jeremiah_ | Especially if you are just updaing. |
| 19:25.08 | jeremiah_ | One such tool is called uupdate |
| 19:25.22 | qwerty12_N800 | lol... I've become too used to hitting shift+delete... :) |
| 19:25.28 | jeremiah_ | heh |
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| 19:27.56 | zecrazytux | I've found that espeak can create a valid wav file, but can't play it (no sound) |
| 19:28.09 | zecrazytux | is there a workaround ? |
| 19:28.42 | qwerty12_N800 | I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that python-vte shows up... I plan on using it and i need to reupload it as I fixed the python vte reaper support patch to actually cause the pygtk codegen not to fail... |
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| 19:29.47 | mikkov_ | does anybody know if autobuilder configuration problem is causing libgda3 build to fail or if it's something that has to worked around? |
| 19:30.45 | mikkov_ | problem is "-L/scratchbox/devkits/apt-https/lib" in linker command |
| 19:31.20 | zecrazytux | what could i use to play a wav file in console ? |
| 19:31.28 | zecrazytux | there is no "aplay" in maemo |
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| 19:38.26 | zecrazytux | gst-launch is the key |
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| 21:19.02 | derf | timeless: Just for you, since gcc 4.2 now lets me, I've disabled -Wparentheses via #pragma, so your build system can't possibly get it wrong. |
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| 21:24.33 | RST38h | moo derf |
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| 21:27.22 | derf | RST38h: Un jour, tout le monde mougleras. |
| 21:28.11 | GeneralAntilles | Later folks. |
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| 21:30.33 | NCommander | How do I switch the processor from ondemand mode to performance? (I can't find a clear guide on how to do so) |
| 21:32.19 | derf | echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 21:32.33 | RST38h | echo ondemand > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq |
| 21:32.45 | NCommander | derf, is that sticky, or do I need to shove it in an init script? |
| 21:32.47 | RST38h | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:32.58 | derf | NCommander: No, it is not sticky. |
| 21:32.59 | RST38h | it's not sticky |
| 21:35.11 | NCommander | I'm hoping this will decrease the BT keyboard lag :-/ |
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| 21:37.33 | RST38h | It will not |
| 21:37.33 | NCommander | :-/ |
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| 21:38.49 | RST38h | Vote on the bug instead and hope Nokia fixes it |
| 21:39.10 | NCommander | RST38h, is the bug in the open bits or the closed bits? |
| 21:39.17 | NCommander | might take a whack at fixing it if its in the former |
| 21:40.09 | RST38h | closed afaik, but as nobody from nokia has admitted they have a bug, there is no way to say |
| 21:40.35 | NCommander | Thats lovely |
| 21:40.41 | RST38h | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3359 |
| 21:41.12 | RST38h | See how many comments are there and it is still "uncomfirmed" |
| 21:41.23 | NCommander | Bah |
| 21:41.31 | NCommander | I assume that there is no way to downgrade an N810 to OS2007? |
| 21:42.20 | RST38h | why? |
| 21:42.59 | NCommander | OS2007 is unaffected |
| 21:43.03 | NCommander | (based on Google) |
| 21:43.16 | RST38h | ah |
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| 21:46.23 | NCommander | I just wish Maemo was fully free |
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| 21:56.23 | RST38h | "free" does not guarantee anyone working on it |
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| 21:57.33 | ShadowJK_ | anyone tried to kill the bluetooth powersavigng modes to see if keyboard latency improves? |
| 21:58.06 | RST38h | How do you do it? |
| 21:58.53 | ShadowJK_ | unless hciconfig can (really) do it, I guess you prod hcid with magic commands over dbus |
| 21:59.28 | RST38h | ah holy shit...magic dbus commands... |
| 22:03.32 | ShadowJK_ | ah nm people report it with usb keyboards too |
| 22:04.21 | fireun | RST38h: "open" |
| 22:04.56 | RST38h | Shadow: Yes, it looks more like some problem in the event processing |
| 22:06.03 | RST38h | http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-882 |
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| 22:21.05 | lopz | hola |
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| 22:38.18 | Macer | hm. need to set up an httpd |
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