| 00:00.56 | guysoft42 | i am downloading Mer in the meantime. i have a spare mini-sd and the kernel now |
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| 00:04.08 | guysoft42 | ill try remove the connection manager |
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| 00:06.32 | johnx | that probably won't do what you want |
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| 00:10.46 | man_in_pda | what exactly is mer? |
| 00:11.28 | johnx | mer is taking the best open source parts of maemo (mostly the UI) and getting it working on a slim ubuntu base |
| 00:11.40 | man_in_pda | eww |
| 00:11.46 | guysoft42 | worth a shot |
| 00:11.46 | johnx | eww? |
| 00:11.55 | man_in_pda | ubuntu :P |
| 00:12.10 | guysoft42 | mer is ubuntu based?! |
| 00:12.18 | johnx | yes |
| 00:12.19 | man_in_pda | hehe |
| 00:12.19 | guysoft42 | why the heck not debian? |
| 00:12.30 | johnx | guysoft42, why debian vs ubuntu? |
| 00:12.39 | johnx | just curious about your preconceptions |
| 00:13.33 | man_in_pda | because people think debian sucks for everyone but kernel hackers whereas ubuntu is for 2 yr old idiots? |
| 00:14.08 | johnx | anyways, the reasons for ubuntu go something like: they're 90% similar anyways, except that ubuntu has/had better support for upstart and it also has a solid 6 month release schedule |
| 00:14.47 | johnx | when you cut either ubuntu or debian down to the size we're working with they're almost exactly the same except for those two points (and of course version differences) |
| 00:14.49 | man_in_pda | pfft @ release schedule |
| 00:15.00 | johnx | man_in_pda, how many distros do you run? |
| 00:15.08 | man_in_pda | more like scheduled breakages |
| 00:15.09 | johnx | s/run/manage/ |
| 00:15.46 | man_in_pda | debian unstable on about 5 boxen at home |
| 00:16.06 | johnx | and you're a debian maintainer? |
| 00:16.16 | man_in_pda | no |
| 00:16.17 | guysoft42 | whats maemo-usb-control? |
| 00:16.37 | johnx | guysoft42, tool to enable host mode |
| 00:16.54 | johnx | man_in_pda, well, release schedules start to look a little nicer when you're trying to organize your releases based on an upstream distro |
| 00:16.59 | guysoft42 | johnx, lets try removing it! |
| 00:17.15 | johnx | guysoft42, ok. |
| 00:17.27 | guysoft42 | (yay?) |
| 00:17.40 | man_in_pda | shouldn't do that though |
| 00:18.37 | man_in_pda | the harder you try to stick to a release schedule the more likely you are to break stuff |
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| 00:19.11 | man_in_pda | ubuntu broke floppy support completely once |
| 00:19.33 | johnx | man_in_pda, it goes something like this: say maemo UI needs gtk version x.2 . Debian has x.1 and no one knows when the release that has x.2 will come out |
| 00:19.50 | johnx | meanwhile ubuntu either has x.2 or we know when they'll have x.2 |
| 00:20.09 | johnx | and don't tell me to follow debian unstable :) |
| 00:20.20 | man_in_pda | so the solution is to nnot use debian stble releases |
| 00:20.25 | johnx | heh |
| 00:20.28 | johnx | I beat you to it |
| 00:20.36 | man_in_pda | follow testing |
| 00:20.53 | man_in_pda | *testing* |
| 00:21.28 | guysoft42 | btw, is there a Mer flashable to an mmc card? |
| 00:21.29 | man_in_pda | less likely to break stuff than unstable and still keeps relatively up-to-date |
| 00:21.34 | johnx | basically it sounds like you want to volunteer to work on mer-on-debian and we'd love to have you :) |
| 00:21.45 | man_in_pda | hehe |
| 00:22.03 | guysoft42 | well i have easy debian chroot |
| 00:22.07 | johnx | there's some support for debian lenny and we'd love someone to help us finish it up. it sounds like you're passionate about this, so give us a hand :> |
| 00:22.19 | johnx | guysoft42, you can install mer to mmc card or internal flash |
| 00:22.26 | man_in_pda | you fix my wpa-eap/pap problem and you've got a deal! |
| 00:22.35 | guysoft42 | johnx, how? carnt i just dd it? |
| 00:23.00 | johnx | man_in_pda, does it work via /etc/network/interfaces and wpasupplicant? does it work with network-manager? if yes then it's already done |
| 00:23.37 | johnx | guysoft42, you don't want to dd it. you either need to flash it to your internal flash with mtd utils or untar it on your mmc/sd card |
| 00:24.13 | guysoft42 | still reboots :((( |
| 00:24.16 | man_in_pda | johnx, is there network-manager and wpa-supplicant packaged for maemo? |
| 00:24.28 | guysoft42 | i removed connection manager, pc connectivity.. |
| 00:24.29 | johnx | man_in_pda, nope. it's for mer. :> |
| 00:24.45 | guysoft42 | johnx, are you using another language apart form english on your device? |
| 00:24.52 | johnx | guysoft42, nope |
| 00:24.52 | man_in_pda | so how does that help me? :) |
| 00:25.20 | johnx | man_in_pda, you work on the debian support and you get working wireless and your favorite distro :D |
| 00:25.51 | johnx | Nokia's driver doesn't support Linux wext out of the box, so no wpasupplicant on maemo |
| 00:25.59 | man_in_pda | i got this thing to Just Work(TM) |
| 00:26.31 | johnx | heh. you know you want to hack :) |
| 00:26.43 | man_in_pda | i don't really want to change the os |
| 00:26.52 | johnx | then dual boot? |
| 00:27.10 | johnx | I got mine to just work as well so I could hack on my zaurus |
| 00:27.16 | johnx | I even resisted hacking on it for about a year or so |
| 00:27.27 | man_in_pda | would likely be annoying. is there a neat howto? |
| 00:27.41 | johnx | just run the mer installer it and it will install to sd card |
| 00:27.48 | johnx | give you a nice bootmenu at the start |
| 00:27.59 | johnx | You might want to wait for the .12 release coming in the next couple days |
| 00:28.09 | man_in_pda | i don't mind hacking but i want this pap thing fixed first |
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| 00:28.58 | johnx | man_in_pda, ask nokia why they didn't decide 1) open source their connection manager or 2) at least provide linux wireless extensions support in their wifi driver |
| 00:29.13 | johnx | without those it's pretty hard to do anything about the situation in maemo |
| 00:29.26 | man_in_pda | and i'm getting sick of the background in xchat's input box |
| 00:30.54 | johnx | does one of the bugs filed for it have a workaround? |
| 00:31.05 | man_in_pda | johnx, yeah, would be a lot easier with wext and wpa-supplicant backend, which they really SHOULD have done ages ago |
| 00:31.28 | man_in_pda | the pap problem or the xchat problem? :P |
| 00:31.34 | johnx | the pap problem |
| 00:31.46 | johnx | as for xchat, are you using a dark theme or something? |
| 00:32.37 | man_in_pda | dark on light hurts my eyes in xchat |
| 00:32.52 | man_in_pda | due to all the other colours |
| 00:33.18 | man_in_pda | so i've set the text box to light on dark |
| 00:33.43 | man_in_pda | but input and topic boxen are still light background |
| 00:33.57 | man_in_pda | with light text |
| 00:34.19 | man_in_pda | it's like touch-typing without the touch |
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| 00:36.13 | man_in_pda | also, i don't think anyone has assembled a complete pap auth workaround that uses maemo's connection manager |
| 00:36.49 | guysoft42 | any other guesses why the keyborad is not working? |
| 00:36.51 | guysoft42 | keyboard* |
| 00:37.28 | man_in_pda | which would be ideal for me, although anything equally easy (once installed and configured) is fine by me |
| 00:39.00 | guysoft42 | johnx, any idea what our systems have in common that makes them show the bug? |
| 00:43.03 | johnx | guysoft42, nokia's usb handling is a little buggy it seems |
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| 00:46.01 | guysoft42 | johnx, it does work here in one place, but not on the other.. must be a reason |
| 00:47.03 | joelmaher | guysoft42: you mentioned my name |
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| 00:47.16 | guysoft42 | joelmaher, ah sorry, ment johnx |
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| 00:47.28 | joelmaher | np |
| 00:48.38 | guysoft42 | maybe its something with the storage |
| 00:48.50 | guysoft42 | johnx, do you have your system on the internal flash? |
| 00:49.53 | tank-man | still working on the keyboard problem ? :) |
| 00:50.19 | tank-man | have you tried checking if other people using the same kernel are able to get usb keyboard working? |
| 00:51.20 | guysoft42 | tableteer, yes.. and i have switch 3 kernels since. and johnx finds the same bug when putting mmc cards in his N800.. i have an N810 and carn't remove the internal flash, as you can imagine |
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| 00:54.06 | johnx | guysoft42, actually I get reboots when trying to use usb network device mode |
| 00:54.18 | johnx | host mode works great, but I get the biggest problems when switching back and forth |
| 00:54.55 | guysoft42 | strange, that works fine here |
| 00:57.18 | lardman_ | night chaps |
| 00:59.12 | guysoft42 | johnx, how come netowrk does not work? |
| 00:59.28 | johnx | I don't know |
| 01:00.11 | man_in_pda | does "Use textbox colours and fonts" set the background of the input box for anyone using xchat? |
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| 01:03.15 | guysoft42 | johnx, do you have easy choot? |
| 01:03.31 | johnx | nope |
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| 01:11.52 | guysoft42 | really wants to solve this bug |
| 01:12.00 | guysoft42 | can anyone else recreate this bug? |
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| 01:29.55 | man_in_pda | well i like the handwriting mode :) |
| 01:30.15 | GeneralAntilles | Never used a Newton, have you? |
| 01:33.14 | johnx | GeneralAntilles, he probably hasn't even used a palm with grafiti 1 :) |
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| 01:44.34 | man_in_pda | handwriting takes too long. back to tgyping |
| 01:44.40 | man_in_pda | *typing |
| 01:47.13 | lopz | gn |
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| 02:02.38 | guysoft42 | tank-man, no |
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| 02:09.16 | fireun | anyone use the powerpoint like openoffice app? |
| 02:10.23 | man_in_pda | impress? |
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| 02:11.38 | fireun | man_in_pda: yes? |
| 02:13.04 | fireun | is it compatible with powerpoint? |
| 02:13.13 | KurtKraut | fireun: I intend to develop an OpenOffice Impress remote controler for maemo. |
| 02:13.41 | KurtKraut | fireun: yes, it is. You can also try OpenOffice in your desktop to test and see by yourself compability. Just download it at www.openoffice.org |
| 02:14.22 | fireun | yes, I have openoffice, I have to make a slideshow to use in class, all they have is powerpoint |
| 02:14.29 | fireun | guess I'll just have to test it |
| 02:16.39 | man_in_pda | yeah |
| 02:17.20 | man_in_pda | only problem i ever had with ppt exporter in OOo was fonts |
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| 02:53.46 | luke-jr | wow |
| 02:53.49 | luke-jr | I'm proud of my N810 |
| 02:53.54 | luke-jr | it installed all 10 apps while I was gone |
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| 05:01.05 | shubhambaheti | hi |
| 05:01.25 | shubhambaheti | anybody ported camerabin ? |
| 05:01.58 | shubhambaheti | anybody here |
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| 05:03.53 | man_in_pda | nope |
| 05:03.59 | man_in_pda | not even you |
| 05:04.18 | man_in_pda | in fact, especially not you |
| 05:04.25 | shubhambaheti | yeah |
| 05:06.01 | Macer | hello |
| 05:06.05 | Macer | Stskeeps: you around? |
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| 05:10.28 | Stskeeps | Macer: yeah, but leaving in 5 |
| 05:10.52 | Macer | just wanted to make sure you got it |
| 05:11.14 | Stskeeps | well, it's at the post office and picking it up today or tomorrow :) |
| 05:11.23 | Macer | oh. thought you were back already |
| 05:11.28 | Stskeeps | yeah, last evening |
| 05:11.30 | Macer | ok. just let me know when you get it |
| 05:11.32 | Stskeeps | yep |
| 05:11.40 | Macer | just want to make sure it made it there |
| 05:11.54 | Stskeeps | will do |
| 05:12.00 | Macer | ok.. ttyl |
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| 05:16.19 | RST38h | moo all |
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| 05:48.54 | fuzzy | Does pidgin work with the maemo sdk for arm? |
| 05:50.40 | johnx_ | you mean, will it run in the sdk? |
| 05:50.46 | johnx_ | that's a firm maybe |
| 05:51.16 | johnx_ | it runs on the device, but since it relies on the connection manager (I think) it might not behave in the SDK emulator thing |
| 05:52.06 | thux | morning |
| 05:52.26 | johnx_ | morning thux |
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| 06:31.24 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 06:31.54 | Stskeeps | morning, Jaffa |
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| 06:44.57 | johnx_ | the htc touch pro 2 looks impressively similar to an n810 ... |
| 06:45.12 | Stskeeps | just shows nokia has been ahead for quite a while |
| 06:45.26 | Stskeeps | which is why i think rx-51 will make an interesting splash |
| 06:45.33 | johnx_ | ahead but running on the other side of the street :) |
| 06:45.49 | johnx_ | or ahead but in a different race maybe... |
| 06:46.40 | Stskeeps | one of these days i'd like to sit down and talk history with the maemo people |
| 06:46.50 | Stskeeps | just what decisions was made originally |
| 06:47.52 | johnx_ | in some ways it seems like Nokia really does care about the long game and the big picture |
| 06:48.48 | johnx_ | cause it certainly hasn't been about playign the short game... |
| 06:49.24 | Stskeeps | i have a pretty good idea where they're going |
| 06:49.34 | Stskeeps | especially after considering some talks i had with a nokia research guy at a conference |
| 06:50.14 | Stskeeps | did i tell you launchpad (the facists) refused our .po files cos of it being actual msgids, and not english strings? |
| 06:50.21 | Stskeeps | like, tana_fi_internet |
| 06:50.56 | johnx_ | ah. I heard mumblings about that but didn't realize it was actually a human being who refused them |
| 06:51.02 | johnx_ | I thought it was some technical limitation |
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| 06:51.10 | Stskeeps | after a whole month |
| 06:51.11 | Stskeeps | 'lo alextreme |
| 06:51.16 | johnx_ | sighs |
| 06:52.08 | Stskeeps | johnx_: anyway, claudius will head up the transifex stuff with maemo.org |
| 06:52.31 | johnx_ | well, that's good at least |
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| 06:52.42 | Stskeeps | hello v6sa |
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| 07:02.30 | v6sa | yes? |
| 07:03.46 | v6sa | Stskeeps: yes? |
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| 07:03.48 | Stskeeps | just saying hi :P |
| 07:03.51 | v6sa | haha |
| 07:03.57 | v6sa | you are? |
| 07:04.06 | Stskeeps | .. actually because i mistook this channel for #mer, but yeah :) |
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| 07:11.22 | v6sa | Anybody knows why I can't listen to mp3 or ogg streams from Icecast server? |
| 07:11.28 | v6sa | with the Maemo player |
| 07:11.37 | v6sa | I installed OGG support plugin |
| 07:11.53 | v6sa | For example any of these streams: http://v6sa.itcollege.ee:8500/ |
| 07:12.27 | v6sa | SCP streams seem to be working (Microsoft Multimedia Server?) |
| 07:15.04 | Stskeeps | dear god.. just got an e-mail on "Increase female libido" and cos i have read too many fremantle posts recently, i read it as "increase fremantle libido" |
| 07:15.24 | johnx_ | O_o; |
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| 07:15.42 | johnx_ | bad n800! stay away from my leg! stop that! |
| 07:15.51 | luke-jr | tiptoes ouot. |
| 07:15.52 | luke-jr | out* |
| 07:23.02 | luke-jr | johnx_: I don't think you will have much luck in babies unless you change your plan drastically. |
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| 07:23.08 | luke-jr | night |
| 07:24.00 | johnx_ | O_o; |
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| 07:24.40 | aquatix | Stskeeps: O_o |
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| 07:33.46 | Stskeeps | morn rkirti |
| 07:34.03 | rkirti | morning Stskeeps |
| 07:35.29 | rkirti | is wondering about the set-up I need to be doing for the GSoC,all others are hosting their projects at garage (or so I assume), but they are doing real development ... |
| 07:35.47 | Stskeeps | good question really.. is OE git-based or how was it? |
| 07:36.11 | rkirti | yup, they shifted from monotone to git sometime back |
| 07:36.26 | Stskeeps | i have trouble with stuff like Mer too, as we aren't a traditional Maemo project - garage focuses on specific projects and packages |
| 07:37.10 | Stskeeps | whereas we have 100+ bzr branches, heh |
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| 07:37.56 | Stskeeps | gave any thought to the copenhagen developer meeting btw? since you GSoCies get priority too |
| 07:38.38 | rkirti | Stskeeps: I spoke to VDVsx..he said I should be speaking to my mentor , as mentor -student pairs have more likelihood |
| 07:38.42 | Stskeeps | yeah |
| 07:38.51 | Stskeeps | florian is .de based so it should be possible i guess |
| 07:38.59 | Stskeeps | (as far as i recall) |
| 07:39.06 | Stskeeps | just drove through germany and poland yesterday |
| 07:39.08 | Stskeeps | 14 hour drive, phew :P |
| 07:40.01 | rkirti | I am not particularly sure if I should be applying, since I dont know much apart from OE. As I had said earlier, I would like to |
| 07:40.26 | Stskeeps | well, it's also for development of the maemo community - so |
| 07:40.29 | rkirti | be involved, even if its over IRC. But I really doubt if my asking for sponsorship is justified |
| 07:40.46 | Stskeeps | and it's a good way to kickstart things with mentor and other people in the community, and networking |
| 07:40.56 | Stskeeps | your job oppurtunities may certainly increase :) |
| 07:41.00 | Stskeeps | and i'll be there and hopefully some more Mer people as well |
| 07:43.01 | rkirti | shall speak to Florian about it. |
| 07:43.29 | Stskeeps | ponders how many nokians will be there |
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| 07:55.31 | Macer | heh |
| 07:55.40 | Macer | i will hav eto drive 5 hours to cleveland today |
| 07:56.03 | Macer | europe must be interesting in that you can drive through many countries instead of like here where you just travel through states |
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| 07:57.13 | Macer | i guess you can drive through mexico but that would take days before you get to south america and go through one country every 2 hours |
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| 08:07.49 | till- | especially if you can get cheap fuel and other stuff right behind the border |
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| 08:12.36 | Macer | till-: heh. well.. in the US it is state by state |
| 08:12.44 | Macer | you can find cheaper fuel just outside the state border |
| 08:14.02 | till- | here it's mostly the same |
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| 08:15.26 | till- | a great thing is schengen i think, traveling without passport control |
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| 08:16.05 | till- | unless you are from a non-schengen country |
| 08:17.21 | glass | Macer: theres some downsides to it too |
| 08:17.37 | glass | Macer: start from germany and head straight east and you'll notice them |
| 08:17.46 | glass | sooner or later |
| 08:18.15 | till- | :) |
| 08:18.20 | Macer | hahha |
| 08:18.28 | Macer | like euro trip ? :) |
| 08:18.51 | Macer | "A nickel?? *SLAP* I quit.. I open my own hotel now!" |
| 08:20.43 | glass | Macer: eurotrip didn't go toooooooo much east :D |
| 08:21.02 | glass | they'd have had visa probs and such if they had |
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| 08:40.19 | X-Fade | Hmm too bad about last.fm. |
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| 08:40.51 | johnx_ | yeah, and a shame about pandora radio too |
| 08:41.14 | aquatix | X-Fade: hm? |
| 08:41.20 | aquatix | did miss something? |
| 08:41.22 | johnx_ | mumble, mumble, RIAA will be first up against the wall when the revolution comes ... |
| 08:41.24 | X-Fade | Free is always a bad business model to start of with. |
| 08:41.28 | X-Fade | But yeah.. |
| 08:41.39 | X-Fade | aquatix: No longer free. |
| 08:42.02 | X-Fade | aquatix: Every free account gets 30 songs and then you have to pay.. |
| 08:43.09 | dneary | Hi |
| 08:43.31 | dneary | X-Fade: In your mind, what's the difference between "Get involved" and "Contribute"? |
| 08:43.40 | dneary | (same question to everyone) |
| 08:43.54 | dneary | X-Fade: A shame, and yet â¬3 per month isn't a lot |
| 08:44.05 | dneary | I will probably sign up |
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| 08:44.10 | X-Fade | Involved in a project is more than contributing? |
| 08:44.24 | dneary | X-Fade: http://maemo.org/community |
| 08:44.25 | X-Fade | dneary: Yeah, it is not too much. |
| 08:44.31 | glass | involved might mean just throwing your hands in the air generally doing nothing |
| 08:44.39 | dneary | "Get involved" is a 404 right now |
| 08:44.46 | X-Fade | dneary: But I think it will put off a lot of people and thus killing the service? |
| 08:44.59 | aquatix | X-Fade: ah |
| 08:45.04 | dneary | But I'm trying to think what information you'd put there that isn't already in http://maemo.org/community/contribute |
| 08:45.31 | dneary | X-Fade: Perhaps |
| 08:45.50 | dneary | X-Fade: I think that people are ready to pay not much money for a valuable service |
| 08:46.09 | X-Fade | dneary: Yeah, but all data is supplied by their users? |
| 08:46.10 | dneary | See Flickr, Basecamp, etc. |
| 08:46.19 | glass | i pay for flickr |
| 08:46.20 | X-Fade | dneary: Less users => less acurate? |
| 08:46.23 | glass | it's convinient |
| 08:46.32 | dneary | X-Fade: Perhaps |
| 08:46.41 | dneary | glass: I don't |
| 08:47.05 | dneary | But I have just recently hit all their limits (albums, photo uploads in a day, and total uploads) |
| 08:47.10 | dneary | So I'm considering upgrading |
| 08:47.19 | glass | yep not having limits greatly improves it's usage |
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| 08:48.44 | X-Fade | dneary: Hmm another thing about that contribute page: Why are the links in the text not orange :) |
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| 08:50.02 | dneary | X-Fade: Because you've clicked on them already |
| 08:50.12 | X-Fade | dneary: No, was specified in css. |
| 08:50.13 | dneary | X-Fade: I pointed this out to Neithan |
| 08:50.19 | dneary | Shouldn't have been |
| 08:50.24 | X-Fade | dneary: Should be better now ;) |
| 08:51.34 | X-Fade | dneary: because of div class="sections" |
| 08:51.46 | X-Fade | dneary: I think that whole div can just go. |
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| 08:52.51 | dneary | It was supposed to be a <ul> |
| 08:53.06 | X-Fade | dneary: No higher up.. |
| 08:53.09 | dneary | X-Fade: Error trying to edit a page: Fatal error: Call to a member function get_array() on a non-object in /mnt/netapp/pear/midcom/lib/midcom/helper/_styleloader.php(637) : eval()'d code on line 4 |
| 08:53.45 | X-Fade | dneary: Does it save it anyway? |
| 08:53.59 | dneary | I don't get the form |
| 08:54.36 | dneary | This isn't when I save |
| 08:54.44 | dneary | It's before I get a chance to edit |
| 08:55.07 | X-Fade | which page? |
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| 09:22.50 | lardman | morning all |
| 09:27.22 | RST38h | X-Fade: There appears to be a problem with karma again |
| 09:27.32 | X-Fade | RST38h: What's up? |
| 09:27.32 | RST38h | X-Fade: my profile does not show itt thanks |
| 09:28.32 | RST38h | Probably does not show some other stuff because the numbers do not add up |
| 09:31.59 | dneary | X-Fade: Sorry - community/contribute |
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| 09:34.00 | X-Fade | RST38h: The karma value is correct indeed. The thanks just isn't displayed. |
| 09:34.06 | X-Fade | RST38h: Which is weird. |
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| 09:41.55 | Gwl | hi, we are having a problem creating a new maemo garage project.. after submitting it says "Please describe your Registration Purpose in a more comprehensive manner" |
| 09:42.24 | X-Fade | Gwl: Is your text very short? |
| 09:42.30 | Gwl | the description should certainly be specific enough.. is there some hard word count or is this just some weird bug? |
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| 09:43.32 | X-Fade | thopiekar: Hi |
| 09:43.42 | thopiekar | hi X-Fade :) |
| 09:43.50 | thopiekar | hi all :P |
| 09:44.05 | X-Fade | thopiekar: Yesterday we removed the libasound you uploaded, because that is a system lib. |
| 09:44.32 | X-Fade | thopiekar: And installing breaks people's osso-softare-version. |
| 09:45.26 | thopiekar | aah ok... I just uploaded it and upgraded it on my device.. and mine was breaked.. I just wanted to inform you about that but nobody replied.. |
| 09:45.29 | thopiekar | :| |
| 09:46.05 | mikkov_ | system packages should be automatically rejected |
| 09:46.53 | X-Fade | mikkov_: Yeah, we would need to check against a list. |
| 09:47.01 | thopiekar | or special limitations to upload it.. |
| 09:47.18 | thopiekar | how is the path called where the desktop files for the menu are stored? |
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| 09:55.07 | thopiekar | I need it to know how the command is called to open "navicore".. a user on n800.de has trouble using it on os2006 @ N770.. |
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| 09:55.33 | thopiekar | so I want to look into the *.desktop file.. |
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| 10:03.43 | RST38h | Anyone can enlighten me on how to change total memory size in Linux kernel? |
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| 10:14.05 | lardman | hmm, username string doesn't fit in the box at the top of maemo.org |
| 10:14.28 | lardman | whoa, my profile page is broken too |
| 10:14.53 | lardman | and my discussion is still very low |
| 10:15.13 | lardman | just checked as RST38h said something about it |
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| 10:15.33 | RST38h | the profile prblems have been present before, in the old design |
| 10:15.38 | lardman | is this knackered for everyone else too? Is this a known issue?: http://maemo.org/profile/view/lardman/ |
| 10:15.41 | RST38h | with some fields not showing up |
| 10:15.55 | lardman | I've just got lots of code shown |
| 10:17.05 | X-Fade | lardman: I'm debugging it ;) |
| 10:17.14 | X-Fade | lardman: That is why you see data ;) |
| 10:17.18 | lardman | ah I see |
| 10:17.34 | lardman | see if you can debug why I still don;t get much karma for mailing list posts while you're at it ;) |
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| 10:26.40 | X-Fade | RST38h: your problem has been fixed. |
| 10:27.51 | RST38h | X-Fade: thanks =) |
| 10:27.58 | lardman | go X-Fade, you're on a roll :) |
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| 10:30.55 | lardman | considers more coffee to offset the late night |
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| 10:46.33 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: RSS on mer page is messing up |
| 10:46.39 | Stskeeps | it double shows the messages |
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| 10:57.51 | thopiekar | X-Fade: PING |
| 10:57.57 | X-Fade | thopiekar: yep |
| 10:58.20 | thopiekar | do you have some connections to the admins of forum.nokia.com? |
| 10:59.09 | X-Fade | thopiekar: Not directly no. |
| 10:59.26 | X-Fade | thopiekar: What's up? |
| 10:59.45 | thopiekar | I registered myself on the site and typed in the wrong email.. so my login name is now not available.. |
| 11:00.33 | X-Fade | thopiekar: Ouch ;) |
| 11:00.34 | thopiekar | and I just cant find any email-address on the site to get in contact with them |
| 11:00.40 | thopiekar | :| |
| 11:01.28 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: btw, claudius henrichs will be working on proposals on how we can start playing with Transifex & Mer (with the shared strings with Maemo initially, hopefully using fremantle beta strings as a offset) and maemo.org |
| 11:01.35 | Stskeeps | (he's heading up our localization area) |
| 11:03.06 | thopiekar | -.-' I found a formular to contact them but I need to login.. |
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| 11:06.18 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: and i assume those proposals would be best to push through maemo.org sprint process and such? |
| 11:06.42 | thopiekar | lol.. the "request-a-new-password" side says that the user "thopiekar" isn't available in the db.. and on the other side its not possible to re-register.. stupid forum :| |
| 11:07.19 | thux | is it nokia's forum? |
| 11:07.29 | thopiekar | yes |
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| 11:08.06 | jagguli | hi is there a way to install *.install files from the terminal |
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| 11:08.46 | thopiekar | I just typed in the wrong email at the first time.. and I can't re-register, login and get in contact with the admins of the site.. |
| 11:08.58 | roope | for the idle speculation theme, i've got only one thing to add: http://tinyurl.com/c2dr7m |
| 11:09.15 | thopiekar | thux: are you a member of nokia's forum? |
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| 11:09.40 | Stskeeps | roope: they're attachable to n8x0s, maybe :> |
| 11:09.43 | iListenU | Where can be problem? here's screen: http://parduoduv.puslapiai.lt/ (in top)? What i need to do to solve it?? |
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| 11:10.01 | Stskeeps | yes, leave without getting a answer |
| 11:10.17 | Stskeeps | or spamming, lovely |
| 11:10.52 | thux | thopiekar: not sure :) but i pinged one nokia's admins if he knows whaat can be done |
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| 11:11.11 | thopiekar | thux: great! thanks! |
| 11:12.21 | thopiekar | btw. is it possible to control these "usb missile launchers" with a tablet? |
| 11:12.28 | thopiekar | (driver) |
| 11:12.49 | Stskeeps | anything's possible |
| 11:12.50 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 11:12.55 | thopiekar | ;P |
| 11:13.40 | thopiekar | is thinking about making a "usb missile launchers"-war at school :D |
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| 11:16.11 | thopiekar | Stskeeps: what about these rocket launchers with webcams? |
| 11:16.45 | thopiekar | http://tinyurl.com/d97sm4 |
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| 11:19.44 | thux | thopiekar: you can't login to forum now? |
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| 11:21.21 | Whits1 | hello |
| 11:22.11 | thopiekar | thux: no |
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| 11:23.58 | thopiekar | whats the name of the admin @ freenode? |
| 11:24.03 | thopiekar | ^ thux |
| 11:24.45 | Whits1 | i do have a little issue here, i try to install cairo 1.8.6 in my scratchbox with maemo installed. Well first the configuration complains about a old version of pixman <0.12.0, so i downloaded 0.15.0, and installed it (its now in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/). But even now the cairo config complains about the version... |
| 11:24.49 | Whits1 | any idea? |
| 11:25.43 | Whits1 | is there a "ready to use" scratchbox package of cairo 1,8,6 or 1,8,4 |
| 11:25.55 | lardman | thopiekar: does it do automatic tracking? |
| 11:26.22 | lardman | I'm sure it could be made to anyway, sounds fun |
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| 11:27.03 | thopiekar | no manual.. I don't have one but i think it should be programable.. somethink like motion detection should be useful.. |
| 11:27.09 | thopiekar | :) |
| 11:27.31 | lardman | pymissle |
| 11:27.46 | lardman | pymissile even |
| 11:28.29 | thopiekar | the one without webcams could be enough... |
| 11:28.33 | lardman | http://code.google.com/p/pymissile/ |
| 11:28.46 | thopiekar | we could use the tablets webcams then.. |
| 11:28.56 | lardman | yeah, could always attach a separate webcam |
| 11:29.55 | lardman | I wonder if I could program it to hunt and destroy the wasps in my office... |
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| 11:30.12 | thux | i like maemo sudser is it possible to set pc ubuntu sudo same way? |
| 11:30.20 | lardman | someone's just done that using a laser to zap mozzies |
| 11:30.38 | thopiekar | but these usb launchers work on linux, right? in the descriptions there is just win-os's in the list.. |
| 11:30.38 | radic | is the softwarekeyboard not listed in /dev? |
| 11:30.52 | thopiekar | thux: yes.. |
| 11:31.09 | lardman | thopiekar: see pymissile |
| 11:31.14 | thopiekar | just add yourself to the group 'root'.. |
| 11:31.19 | thopiekar | lardman: k |
| 11:31.33 | thopiekar | thux: .. and .. mom plz |
| 11:32.04 | thux | thopiekar: thanks i tried sudoers lines without luck |
| 11:32.18 | Stskeeps | radic: no, it's not a input device like that |
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| 11:32.42 | thopiekar | add to the end of the sudoers file in /etc/ : <%root ALL=NOPASSWD:ALL> |
| 11:32.54 | thopiekar | without < and > |
| 11:33.02 | thux | thanks |
| 11:33.34 | thopiekar | thux: np |
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| 11:34.41 | radic | Stskeeps: how can I log all typed stuff withe the softwarekeyboard to a file? |
| 11:34.56 | Stskeeps | radic: no clue. hack hildon input method? :P |
| 11:35.00 | Stskeeps | it's OSS, most of it |
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| 11:35.33 | radic | hm |
| 11:36.45 | radic | Stskeeps: can the unrealircd compiled statisticly? |
| 11:37.06 | Stskeeps | radic: what's unrealircd? :P |
| 11:37.07 | radic | -s |
| 11:38.01 | thopiekar | it seems that radic is working on a input-logger trojaner for nokia tablets :P |
| 11:41.31 | thopiekar | lardman: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5930393724587911462 |
| 11:41.33 | thopiekar | :P |
| 11:44.18 | lardman | nice :) |
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| 11:44.51 | lardman | looks a bit glitchy, I wonder if that;'s the programming team for the US ICBM shield project? ;) |
| 11:45.27 | Stskeeps | same technology, heh |
| 11:46.02 | lardman | I'm tempted, just too damn busy atm and if I get one I'll probably forget about it |
| 11:46.24 | lardman | I wonder if a usb pellet gun exists, that would be pretty cool |
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| 12:03.43 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: Although community translations are on the Harmattan roadmap, we can probably test that earlier ;) |
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| 12:16.50 | Macer | lol |
| 12:16.57 | Macer | just have to love the old star trek |
| 12:17.10 | aquatix | original series? |
| 12:17.18 | Macer | yeah |
| 12:17.48 | Macer | i'm watching the one where the civilization is time accelerated |
| 12:18.05 | Macer | well ... the 5 people |
| 12:18.06 | Macer | heh |
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| 12:19.00 | Macer | the actors are trying to hold still but you can see them shaking... then they have the cheesy cheap hollywood sets :) |
| 12:23.50 | aquatix | :) |
| 12:23.55 | GeneralAntilles | dneary, ping? |
| 12:23.59 | aquatix | back then it was about state-of-the-art |
| 12:24.06 | aquatix | Macer: i love those sets |
| 12:24.19 | aquatix | they are so obviously cardboard and paint |
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| 12:27.26 | dneary | GeneralAntilles: pong |
| 12:27.52 | GeneralAntilles | dneary, I'm thinking not only are the Hot/Fresh images slightly confusing, but they take up too much vertical space. |
| 12:28.19 | Macer | aquatix: kirk was fighting one off with a pillow |
| 12:28.20 | dneary | GeneralAntilles: They certainly *appear* to |
| 12:28.46 | Macer | haha |
| 12:29.01 | Macer | after having sex with the accelerated alien.. they cut to a scene where he is putting his boots back on |
| 12:29.06 | GeneralAntilles | I also think we have way too much whitespace at the top. |
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| 12:30.44 | GeneralAntilles | Actually, it seems like we could remove the <h1>'s at the top of most pages to help with that. |
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| 12:31.07 | mgedmin | wow, look at the new maemo.org |
| 12:33.40 | thopiekar | knows why root is needed to control a usb-rocket-launcher with pymissile.. |
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| 12:37.08 | mgedmin | security reasons |
| 12:37.24 | mgedmin | you don't want an arbitrary user to launch ICBMs and start a world war by mistake |
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| 12:38.39 | aquatix | Macer: :) |
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| 12:45.28 | mgedmin | hm, maemo.org logins do not appear to work |
| 12:46.54 | mgedmin | the page doesn't redirect me to the https url when I press the [go] button |
| 12:47.06 | mgedmin | if I go to https manually, I'm logged in |
| 12:47.08 | woglinde | mged,om file a bug? |
| 12:47.23 | GeneralAntilles | Somebody already did. |
| 12:47.36 | woglinde | *g* |
| 12:47.42 | GeneralAntilles | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4366 |
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| 12:48.50 | GeneralAntilles | dneary, X-Fade, what do you think about killing the intro paragraph? http://maemo.org/community/ |
| 12:49.04 | Macer | well |
| 12:49.14 | Macer | here goes.. tiem to drive for 5 hours to cleveland :) |
| 12:49.14 | Macer | blah |
| 12:49.21 | Macer | i will let rush hour die down a little more |
| 12:49.23 | dneary | GeneralAntilles: I like it |
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| 12:49.42 | dneary | GeneralAntilles: You think it's unnecessary? |
| 12:49.53 | GeneralAntilles | dneary, then I think we need similar intro paragraphs for support/, development/ and the wiki. |
| 12:50.07 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, I don't really see much purpose in it. |
| 12:51.58 | X-Fade | GeneralAntilles: The problem with these texts is that they are only valuable to the user the first time. |
| 12:52.07 | X-Fade | GeneralAntilles: After that they get old. |
| 12:52.21 | X-Fade | GeneralAntilles: But for a new user it can give a better understanding. |
| 12:52.56 | GeneralAntilles | There are an awful lot of pages that need to be killed |
| 12:53.52 | mgedmin | looks around for a spare flamethrower for GeneralAntilles |
| 12:54.18 | RST38h | menu at the right needs to be killed on some pages |
| 12:54.37 | RST38h | if you already have a menu at the page, the second menu just adds to the mess |
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| 12:57.40 | aquatix | ooh, new maemo.org is shiny |
| 12:57.56 | aquatix | i guess you guys already got the report `font in login boxes too big'? |
| 12:58.22 | GeneralAntilles | Hehe, anybody want to place a bet on when they think everybody will finally have rolled around to the website. ;) |
| 12:58.25 | RST38h | aquatix: wazd has done a thorough review of fonts, he has found 6 (?) different font sizes on a single page |
| 12:58.34 | aquatix | ouch |
| 12:58.48 | RST38h | #define roll around |
| 12:58.57 | GeneralAntilles | visit and see the new style |
| 12:59.10 | aquatix | generally just reads the rss feed |
| 12:59.11 | RST38h | ah, that should be easy to check by looking at login log =) |
| 12:59.22 | aquatix | but i saw notions of the new design going live here |
| 13:00.34 | mgedmin | same here |
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| 13:26.44 | guysoft42 | lardman|away, johnx_ hey, i opened a bug about the keyboard, with all the data i can think of. So id be happy if you take a look: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4374 |
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| 13:36.00 | Stskeeps | Macer: works just fine and it arrived safely |
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| 13:39.20 | radic_ | Stskeeps: my n800 is to quiet, is there a way to change that? |
| 13:40.50 | mgedmin | plug in a louder external speaker ;) |
| 13:41.17 | mgedmin | in more practical terms, the nokias have two volume controls: one global for the system and a separate one for the media player |
| 13:41.26 | mgedmin | set both to 100% to get maximum volume |
| 13:41.50 | v6sa | anybody has noticed that there is not enough RAM on N810 to run even basic stuff |
| 13:41.52 | v6sa | ? |
| 13:41.53 | mgedmin | it won't be very loud anyway |
| 13:41.56 | mgedmin | v6sa: no |
| 13:42.05 | mgedmin | depends on your definition of "basic stuff" |
| 13:42.11 | v6sa | browser + music player |
| 13:42.16 | v6sa | I see 96M active |
| 13:42.18 | mgedmin | heh |
| 13:42.21 | radic_ | mgedmin: i did that in mediabox, but it's to quiet |
| 13:42.27 | mgedmin | the N810 does not have enough RAM to run a browser, yes |
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| 13:42.36 | v6sa | haha |
| 13:42.37 | mgedmin | or at least if you want more than one page open |
| 13:42.42 | v6sa | any suggestions? |
| 13:42.43 | mgedmin | or a page that actually uses images |
| 13:42.48 | v6sa | alternative browser? |
| 13:42.50 | X-Fade | v6sa: Add swap? |
| 13:42.51 | mgedmin | laptop |
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| 13:42.55 | v6sa | haha |
| 13:42.59 | mgedmin | links in an xterm would work very well |
| 13:43.06 | mgedmin | visit more modest websites |
| 13:43.06 | v6sa | facebook crashes basically |
| 13:43.15 | v6sa | gmail is okay only in html mode |
| 13:43.15 | mgedmin | google reader is usable (barely) |
| 13:43.20 | mgedmin | and I have a swap partition |
| 13:43.24 | v6sa | me too |
| 13:43.28 | v6sa | using web is painful |
| 13:43.46 | v6sa | I would say that this device should have *at least* 256MB of RAM |
| 13:43.50 | v6sa | 512MB would be better |
| 13:44.09 | Stskeeps | radic_: i can recommend heavy rock |
| 13:44.12 | mgedmin | a device with more RAM would be better, yes |
| 13:44.21 | mgedmin | but a device with a shorter battery life would be worse |
| 13:44.22 | Stskeeps | v6sa: 256 will be just fine, trust on that |
| 13:44.33 | radic_ | what are the differences between n800 and n810? |
| 13:44.34 | v6sa | 128MB is not enough anyways |
| 13:44.43 | Stskeeps | yes, it is, if you use it wisely :P |
| 13:44.43 | X-Fade | But adding swap really helps. |
| 13:44.43 | mgedmin | 5 hours is not enough either |
| 13:44.51 | radic_ | Stskeeps: i listen to hardcore |
| 13:45.13 | mgedmin | radic_: the difference is 10 :) |
| 13:45.49 | mgedmin | basically, hardware keyboard, no fm radio, one minisd slot instead of two full-size sd slots, builtin 2gb flash |
| 13:45.59 | mgedmin | non-rotating webcam |
| 13:46.22 | v6sa | any chance of using some webkit based browser? |
| 13:47.05 | mgedmin | there were alternative browsers for maemo, but none of them usable |
| 13:47.14 | v6sa | haha |
| 13:47.19 | v6sa | konqueror from kde? |
| 13:47.59 | mgedmin | haven't tried that one |
| 13:48.05 | GeneralAntilles | v6sa, 256MB wasn't feasible in 2007. |
| 13:48.14 | v6sa | I get 5megabytes reading speed on internal mmc/sd |
| 13:48.16 | v6sa | is this normal? |
| 13:48.19 | radic_ | mgedmin: ok, i like the n800 more :) |
| 13:48.28 | mgedmin | fennec is kinda nice from the user interface perspective, but current betas aren't fast enough and use too much ram |
| 13:48.29 | v6sa | 5megabytes/s |
| 13:48.40 | mgedmin | radic_: that's what I thought before I bought a n810 |
| 13:48.43 | GeneralAntilles | v6sa, 256MB only became an option last year. |
| 13:48.49 | v6sa | yeah I see |
| 13:48.50 | mgedmin | oh, I forgot -- the n810 also has a built-in GPS |
| 13:48.55 | mgedmin | which is rarely useful |
| 13:49.01 | v6sa | what about the speed of internal memory card? |
| 13:49.05 | mgedmin | the hardware kb is nice |
| 13:49.08 | v6sa | 5megabytes/s is normal? |
| 13:49.12 | mgedmin | shrugs |
| 13:49.21 | mgedmin | I seek capacity, not speed, from my storage devices |
| 13:49.26 | GeneralAntilles | v6sa, depends on your card. |
| 13:49.27 | mgedmin | which is perhaps a mistake |
| 13:49.33 | GeneralAntilles | and where are you copying from. |
| 13:49.38 | v6sa | I am talking about INTERNAL card |
| 13:49.46 | mgedmin | "internal" -- he probably mean the n810's built-in one |
| 13:49.49 | v6sa | yees |
| 13:49.57 | radic_ | mgedmin: i've a external gps reciver |
| 13:49.59 | mgedmin | v6sa: the n810 had two sd slots, one was called "internal", the other "external" |
| 13:50.16 | mgedmin | your question could be interpreted as "what's the speed of the card in the internal slot" |
| 13:50.17 | v6sa | yes I am talking about the built-in one |
| 13:50.22 | v6sa | yees |
| 13:50.23 | mgedmin | sorry! |
| 13:50.25 | v6sa | :D |
| 13:50.28 | mgedmin | v6sa: the *n800* had two sd slots, one was called "internal", the other "external" |
| 13:50.44 | v6sa | I have n810 |
| 13:50.46 | mgedmin | the user interface is the same for both n810 and 800 |
| 13:50.58 | mgedmin | so the meaning of "internal sd card" could be misunderstood |
| 13:51.04 | mgedmin | anyway, never measured any speeds |
| 13:51.45 | radic_ | i bought my n800 in jun 2007 |
| 13:51.49 | mgedmin | radic_: for me the n810 is better purely from the aesthetical perspective, plus the hardware keyboard is actually nice and very useful |
| 13:51.57 | mgedmin | I was a big virtual kb fan earlier |
| 13:52.40 | radic_ | mgedmin: i need full sized sd-slots |
| 13:52.42 | mgedmin | why am I saying that to you? |
| 13:52.56 | mgedmin | it was v6sa who first asked about differences between n800 and n810 |
| 13:53.01 | mgedmin | irc conversations are hard to keep track of |
| 13:53.09 | radic_ | lol |
| 13:53.20 | v6sa | haha |
| 13:53.56 | mgedmin | no, it was you |
| 13:54.04 | mgedmin | bangs head |
| 13:54.13 | radic_ | i can track it withe using xchat on my n800 |
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| 13:54.16 | mgedmin | this is why I usually just lurk and ignore conversations :) |
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| 13:54.43 | mgedmin | I have a wishlist for xchat: when I hold my mouse over a nickname, fade out all the messages except those that are either from this nick or mention it |
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| 13:54.55 | mgedmin | sort of /lastlog, but in the window, and without moving text around |
| 13:55.11 | mgedmin | and "holding mouse" is bad UI |
| 13:55.18 | ameng1 | Any news about the next genaration n8XX? |
| 13:55.27 | mgedmin | maybe something like "ctrl-click" would be better |
| 13:55.54 | v6sa | any experience with standard debian apps on n8xx? |
| 13:56.06 | v6sa | like KDE and stuff? |
| 13:56.35 | radic_ | why was the capslock removed from the softwarekeyboard? |
| 13:57.09 | v6sa | ah and how can you type @ with the hardware keyboard??? |
| 13:59.12 | mgedmin | fn+something, iirc |
| 13:59.24 | mgedmin | radic_: tap-and-hold shift |
| 13:59.34 | mgedmin | fn-d in the US variant |
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| 13:59.52 | radic_ | TEST |
| 13:59.56 | mgedmin | FAIL |
| 13:59.59 | radic_ | wow |
| 14:04.22 | GeneralAntilles | v6sa: |
| 14:04.24 | GeneralAntilles | ~rx-51 |
| 14:04.25 | infobot | hmm... rx-51 is http://maemo.org/community/council/community_highlights_for_december_2008-part_i-january_2009-part_ii/ http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9093153240.html |
| 14:04.36 | v6sa | eh? |
| 14:04.45 | GeneralAntilles | Just read it. |
| 14:06.09 | v6sa | any information about how much RAM it will have? |
| 14:06.40 | GeneralAntilles | 256MB is a safe bet |
| 14:07.32 | v6sa | thank god |
| 14:07.42 | v6sa | altough I would boldly suggest 512MB |
| 14:07.54 | v6sa | RAM chips are really cheap these days |
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| 14:08.17 | v6sa | any information about when this is going to be released? |
| 14:08.27 | v6sa | availible for buying? |
| 14:08.35 | GeneralAntilles | Not they aren't. |
| 14:08.45 | v6sa | eh? |
| 14:08.57 | GeneralAntilles | RAM is cheap for desktops and laptops with RAM chips the size of half the tablet. |
| 14:09.01 | GeneralAntilles | s/Not/No/ |
| 14:09.07 | v6sa | yeah right |
| 14:09.22 | v6sa | what about release date |
| 14:09.31 | GeneralAntilles | RAM is NOT cheap when you're putting it in with some amount of NAND on a PoP on a little 12mmx12mm package. |
| 14:09.43 | v6sa | yesyes |
| 14:10.04 | GeneralAntilles | RAM is also not cheap on battery. |
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| 14:11.24 | v6sa | release date?? |
| 14:11.44 | GeneralAntilles | It's not even been announced. |
| 14:11.50 | v6sa | :P |
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| 14:12.02 | GeneralAntilles | 3 months +/- 2 months is a safe bet, though. |
| 14:12.12 | v6sa | okay |
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| 14:14.55 | GAN800 | Hmm, I wonder if I could hook up Netflix streaming to the HAVA. |
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| 14:35.49 | Stskeeps | huh. |
| 14:35.57 | Stskeeps | why does n800 service manual say "vibra motor" |
| 14:36.14 | X-Fade | Heh ;) |
| 14:36.28 | X-Fade | Solder one on yourself? |
| 14:38.19 | mgedmin | does it say anything about sim cards? :) |
| 14:39.10 | lopz | hola |
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| 14:46.47 | Stskeeps | damnit |
| 14:46.50 | Stskeeps | problem isn't LCD connector |
| 14:47.03 | qwerty12 | display itself? |
| 14:47.34 | Stskeeps | interesting, the touch screen doesn't fit the entire touchscreen, heh |
| 14:48.19 | jdapena | hi |
| 14:48.20 | Stskeeps | like, display doesn't fit entire ts |
| 14:48.25 | jdapena | any garage admin available? |
| 14:48.29 | RST38h | Anyone knows how I can create an ITT poll? |
| 14:48.36 | RST38h | Is there a howto? |
| 14:48.42 | X-Fade | jdapena: yep |
| 14:48.42 | Stskeeps | RST38h: "add a poll to this post" |
| 14:48.50 | RST38h | Sts: where is it? |
| 14:49.11 | qwerty12 | Above the "Submit new thread" button in the full reply page |
| 14:49.39 | qwerty12 | s/full reply/start new thread/ |
| 14:49.53 | RST38h | ok |
| 14:49.58 | RST38h | hmm I do not see it |
| 14:50.16 | RST38h | No I do not have it |
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| 14:50.48 | GeneralAntilles | bergie! |
| 14:50.52 | GeneralAntilles | Got my screenshot? :D |
| 14:51.12 | bergie | ah, sorry |
| 14:51.18 | bergie | I'm on my way out right now, but I'll see what I can do over the weekend |
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| 14:54.51 | igagis | Hi |
| 14:55.22 | igagis | does anybody know if it is possible to get device ID from application? Is there any API for that? |
| 14:55.41 | igagis | I suppose device ID is the same as wlan MAC address |
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| 14:56.38 | Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: hint btw, if you can find pointer calibrations, it usually has touchscreen IDs |
| 14:57.09 | Stskeeps | i have a ls041yd3 for instance |
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| 14:58.02 | igagis | Any way to get wlan ID? |
| 14:58.32 | Stskeeps | igagis: ifconfig wlan0? has it? :P |
| 14:58.49 | igagis | Stskeeps: probably yes |
| 14:59.33 | Stskeeps | hack that output up? :P or make a syscall to get the info |
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| 15:00.03 | igagis | ok, thanks for idea, will try to look at that |
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| 15:23.50 | man_in_ltop | waves |
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| 15:24.03 | man_in_ltop | is there a word processor for maemo? i read somewhere it had abiword but i can't find it in the apps list |
| 15:27.28 | GeneralAntilles | It's in Extras-devel |
| 15:27.29 | GeneralAntilles | ~extras |
| 15:27.30 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, extras is http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras |
| 15:27.50 | Stskeeps | grrs. not lcd connector |
| 15:27.55 | Stskeeps | better not be the screen. |
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| 15:28.56 | man_in_ltop | thanks |
| 15:29.44 | w0ot | hi, can someone help me with getting ubuntu jaunty 2.2 running on a nokia n810? |
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| 15:31.58 | w0ot | anyone? |
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| 15:37.20 | RST38h | Hmm Viliv S5 now like totally out already |
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| 15:38.39 | RST38h | "Considered 4 hours [battery life] to be decent" |
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| 15:54.09 | man_in_ltop | yay, abiword |
| 15:54.10 | man_in_ltop | gnite |
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| 16:05.23 | TheFatal | con todo el lag |
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| 16:15.40 | jagguli | hi is there a way to install *.install files from the terminal .... anyone |
| 16:15.59 | GeneralAntilles | dbus, probably. |
| 16:16.19 | GeneralAntilles | Alternatively you could extract the package name and just apt-get install that. |
| 16:16.35 | jagguli | GeneralAntilles: but i need to add the repos |
| 16:16.45 | GeneralAntilles | Or that, too. |
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| 16:18.06 | jagguli | GeneralAntilles: anyidea whats the name of the application manager comand :) |
| 16:18.21 | GeneralAntilles | hildon-application-manager |
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| 16:19.24 | jagguli | GeneralAntilles: nope that dont take any params ... |
| 16:19.55 | GeneralAntilles | Thus my dbus suggestion. |
| 16:20.18 | wjt | introspect the app manager! |
| 16:20.42 | jagguli | GeneralAntilles: introspect success ... but failed to install bzr |
| 16:20.51 | qwerty12 | jagguli: dbus-send --print-reply --dest=com.nokia.hildon_application_manager /com/nokia/hildon_application_manager com.nokia.hildon_application_manager.mime_open string:"file:///location/to/.deb" |
| 16:21.42 | jagguli | the app manager has an option to install from file but it failed for the bzr install file ... probably the file is corrupt .. :) |
| 16:22.01 | jagguli | thanks GeneralAntilles :) |
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| 16:35.34 | luke-jr | Where to find gpsdriver_0.5.10_armel.deb ? |
| 16:35.43 | Stskeeps | closed source |
| 16:35.48 | Stskeeps | apt-cache show should show you though |
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| 16:58.27 | luke-jr | Stskeeps: I mean the .deb file even |
| 16:58.37 | luke-jr | Stskeeps: the repository it seems to come from is password-locked |
| 16:58.39 | luke-jr | :/ |
| 16:58.47 | Stskeeps | yeah, apt on tablet auths towards it |
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| 17:17.27 | lauri_ | nick v6sa |
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| 17:17.57 | v6sa | haha |
| 17:18.00 | v6sa | I am idiot |
| 17:18.15 | slonopotamus | hehe |
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| 17:26.28 | radic_ | Stskeeps: is there a port of wireshark available? |
| 17:26.41 | Stskeeps | no clue |
| 17:26.49 | Stskeeps | in Mer, probably, Maemo, no idea |
| 17:28.02 | slonopotamus | err |
| 17:28.20 | slonopotamus | maemo wifi doesn't have wireless extensions? |
| 17:28.38 | Stskeeps | correct |
| 17:28.43 | Stskeeps | or at least, not new ones |
| 17:28.43 | qwerty12 | It's why cx3110x is patch to my knowledge |
| 17:28.50 | qwerty12 | +ed |
| 17:30.35 | luke-jr | slonopotamus: mine does? |
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| 17:47.56 | Stskeeps | 'lo aladds |
| 17:48.00 | aladds | hi :-) |
| 17:48.05 | Stskeeps | how goes? |
| 17:48.11 | aladds | not bad, not bad |
| 17:48.25 | aladds | been trying to get my N810 to tether to my old K750i |
| 17:48.30 | Stskeeps | should be easy |
| 17:48.31 | Stskeeps | i have a k610i |
| 17:48.35 | Stskeeps | it even does bluetooth PAN |
| 17:49.03 | aladds | should I use PAN rather than the usual method? |
| 17:49.08 | Stskeeps | both should work |
| 17:49.12 | aladds | hmm |
| 17:49.21 | Stskeeps | had it working without issue |
| 17:49.46 | aladds | it probably doesn't because of having an odd provider |
| 17:49.50 | aladds | (Blyk) |
| 17:50.03 | aladds | who I have settings for |
| 17:50.11 | aladds | but it fails |
| 17:50.25 | Stskeeps | you have the MMS settings and crap on the k750i too? |
| 17:50.30 | aladds | yeah |
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| 17:50.34 | aladds | K750i works fine |
| 17:50.46 | aladds | that does internet, MMS etc. |
| 17:51.09 | Stskeeps | hmm |
| 17:51.09 | Stskeeps | weird |
| 17:51.12 | aladds | but the N810 won't have any of it... |
| 17:51.28 | Stskeeps | try PAN and see how it goes |
| 17:51.43 | Stskeeps | i really love my k610i .. i can tether at bluetooth and through USB simultaneously |
| 17:51.43 | aladds | shall do |
| 17:51.48 | aladds | nice |
| 17:52.08 | aladds | cool |
| 17:52.30 | Stskeeps | i have to try if i can tether two tablets to one phone, too :P |
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| 17:53.12 | aladds | well the reason i use that (and not my E61i, which has a nice qwerty keyboard and uses the same batteries as the N810) is because with Blyk I get ?15 free credit a month |
| 17:54.54 | aladds | i also want to boot from internal (or external, I do have a 4GB Class 4 card) SD |
| 17:55.02 | aladds | because i hate running out of space :P |
| 17:55.58 | aladds | would the 4GB Class 4 be faster than internal? |
| 17:56.09 | aladds | could i use RAID? :P |
| 18:00.05 | aladds | it's wierd how it supports HID |
| 18:00.19 | Stskeeps | it has a Remote Control feature |
| 18:00.20 | Stskeeps | probably |
| 18:00.22 | aladds | i can control the tablet from my phone |
| 18:00.32 | qwerty12_N800 | In Mer? |
| 18:00.43 | aladds | nah, OS2008 |
| 18:00.53 | aladds | but Mer would technically work? |
| 18:01.10 | qwerty12_N800 | My w810 does so in mer :) |
| 18:01.19 | qwerty12_N800 | But not in os2008 :/ |
| 18:01.50 | aladds | i've not tried Mer yet, I shall though, looks fun |
| 18:02.01 | aladds | no sound is a bit of a show-stopper though :( |
| 18:02.02 | Stskeeps | your 770 contributions are in there, for sure :) |
| 18:02.16 | Stskeeps | aladds: oh, we got sound working but someone needs to get pulseaudio not segmentation faulting |
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| 18:02.33 | aladds | ah |
| 18:02.38 | aladds | cool :) |
| 18:02.42 | Stskeeps | feel free to play :P |
| 18:03.06 | Stskeeps | 0.12 comes out monday |
| 18:05.19 | aladds | i'll wait for that then ;-) |
| 18:05.36 | aladds | PAN setup looks like a pain... :( |
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| 18:07.11 | Stskeeps | should test Mer and PAN .. hmm |
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| 18:14.35 | aladds | ok, so if i know i need to connect to the internet via GPRS and I have a proxy server |
| 18:14.40 | aladds | (given) |
| 18:14.56 | aladds | i put the proxy in the advanced bit under http, yes? |
| 18:14.59 | Stskeeps | i guess |
| 18:15.14 | aladds | hmm |
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| 18:25.31 | aladds | grr |
| 18:25.37 | aladds | it's like it doesn't even try |
| 18:25.40 | aladds | just says failed |
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| 18:44.36 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: looking into it |
| 18:44.44 | woglinde | hi jaffa |
| 18:44.49 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: ta |
| 18:45.26 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: sodding Jaiku RSS format keeps changing |
| 18:46.45 | Stskeeps | yeah.. i'm pondering a new way :P |
| 18:46.51 | Stskeeps | really tired of jaiku by nw |
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| 18:50.02 | thp | where can I find the .install files for the maemo-extras repository, so I can link my apps on maemo.org to the correct .install? |
| 18:51.00 | Stskeeps | 'lo thp, how goes? |
| 18:51.03 | Stskeeps | and |
| 18:51.06 | Stskeeps | ~extras |
| 18:51.07 | infobot | hmm... extras is http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras |
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| 18:52.58 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: should be fixed, I think |
| 18:53.09 | Stskeeps | ta |
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| 18:53.33 | thp | Stskeeps: thanks, but i was looking for the .install for tennix in http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/diablo/install/ - are the files there not auto-generated? |
| 18:53.45 | Stskeeps | ah, those |
| 18:53.59 | Stskeeps | that's a good question, X-Fade ? |
| 18:55.16 | Jaffa | thp: AIUI, the autobuilder/promotion interface does them automatically |
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| 18:56.16 | slonopotamus_ | what the crap is that on maemo.org? |
| 18:56.32 | slonopotamus_ | have you ever tried to open it from tablet? |
| 18:56.34 | thp | Jaffa: ok, so i'll wait until tomorrow and then contact X-Fade if the files there still do not appear (i have promoted the package to extras from -devel earlier today) |
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| 19:15.40 | lardman | eveing all |
| 19:16.00 | GeneralAntilles | slonopotamus_, could you be more specific? |
| 19:16.08 | GeneralAntilles | Hey, lardman. |
| 19:17.43 | lardman | hi GeneralAntilles |
| 19:17.51 | RST38h | moo lardman |
| 19:18.10 | lardman | sorry chaps, need to vpn, back in a tick with a trailing _ |
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| 19:20.10 | GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, you want to take a look at improving the icons on the wiki frontpage? |
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| 19:21.25 | lardman__ | re |
| 19:21.30 | s7 | hi everyone |
| 19:21.57 | woglinde | jo lardman |
| 19:22.02 | s7 | just got my n810, will test it now :) |
| 19:22.08 | woglinde | hehe |
| 19:22.08 | GeneralAntilles | Anybody want to write some intro paragraphs for http://maemo.org/development/ and http://maemo.org/support/ to match http://maemo.org/community/ ? |
| 19:22.14 | woglinde | update it first |
| 19:22.25 | GeneralAntilles | ~flashing |
| 19:22.26 | infobot | it has been said that flashing is http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 19:24.01 | lardman__ | hey woglinde, RST38h |
| 19:26.01 | s7 | thx a lot, i need to read wiki, possibilities and so on first, anyway |
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| 19:34.46 | lardman | hey qwerty12_N800, so how's about it, coming to the next summit? |
| 19:36.02 | lardman | tell your parents I'm a very good "in loco parentis" role model, I wouldn't do anything anyone else wouldn't when borrowing someone else's teenager |
| 19:37.33 | qwerty12_N800 | lardman: hi, I really would love to but, I really can't :(. If there's one in London though... :) |
| 19:37.38 | qwerty12_N800 | lol |
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| 19:38.01 | guysoft42 | qwerty12_N800, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4374 |
| 19:38.05 | lardman | aaah, I'm disappointed; anyway I've a few more months to work on you! |
| 19:38.18 | lardman | and I'll be in London on Wednesday so I may come and give you a stern talking to! |
| 19:38.36 | qwerty12_N800 | :P |
| 19:38.41 | lardman | lol |
| 19:39.30 | woglinde | *g* |
| 19:39.31 | guysoft42 | lardman, i am right in that bug report right? |
| 19:39.37 | qwerty12_N800 | guysoft42: i really wouldn't know :(. I don't even have a usb host adapter |
| 19:40.00 | lardman | looks |
| 19:40.17 | Stskeeps | guysoft42: you did enable usb host? |
| 19:40.38 | lardman | guysoft42: no not quite, I don't have a usb keyboard |
| 19:40.45 | GeneralAntilles | qwerty12_N800, don't be lame. |
| 19:40.45 | Stskeeps | bbl |
| 19:40.50 | lardman | sorry for the misunderstanding |
| 19:41.00 | GeneralAntilles | Parents are a lame excuse. |
| 19:41.27 | GeneralAntilles | Tell them there'll be at least a half-dozen good "father figures" there. :P |
| 19:41.29 | lardman | GeneralAntilles: well if you fly into Heathrow I'll meet you and we can frog march him to the summit ;) |
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| 19:41.47 | qwerty12_N800 | GeneralAntilles: can't help being so. But my passport isn't current anyway |
| 19:41.59 | lardman | I've got a large suitcase.... |
| 19:42.16 | GeneralAntilles | Hehe |
| 19:42.18 | woglinde | lol |
| 19:42.29 | lardman | I also hear that for short flights the wheel wells don't get *really* cold |
| 19:42.49 | lardman | s/wheel/undercarriage |
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| 19:43.28 | qwerty12_N800 | lardman: the suitcase for all the lethal bizzle albums you have? :p |
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| 19:44.37 | lardman | if you can't live without them.... |
| 19:44.39 | lardman | :) |
| 19:44.53 | lardman | T.Rex again! |
| 19:45.17 | rm_you | :P |
| 19:45.44 | lardman | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgrmf_t-rex-bang-a-gong-get-it-on_fun |
| 19:46.02 | lardman | I must have been watching a Vietnam war film recently |
| 19:46.14 | lardman | as it's even a bit before my time :p |
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| 19:50.21 | thopiekar1 | could some please check whether it's possible to download this torrent? |
| 19:50.34 | thopiekar1 | http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4867339 |
| 19:50.44 | woglinde | nope |
| 19:51.21 | woglinde | oh seems to be legal |
| 19:52.21 | qwerty12_N800 | legal torrents are the boring ones :( (ikea catalogue for this year anyone?) |
| 19:52.58 | woglinde | the best think with ikea are the hotdogs |
| 19:53.15 | lardman | likes their bookshelves |
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| 19:54.00 | qwerty12_N800 | likes their little, free, pencils |
| 19:58.31 | thopiekar1 | hmm |
| 19:58.53 | thopiekar1 | is someone familar in torrent seeding/leeching? |
| 19:59.49 | qwerty12_N800 | is a good basta^H^Hleecher... |
| 20:00.11 | thopiekar1 | I just want to seed it because it's a virtualmaschine with all you need for developting around nokia tablets for the german community.. |
| 20:01.10 | thopiekar1 | with androidSDK, sb1 + maemo3, 4 and 5 and eclipse 3.3 and 3.4 as editors.. |
| 20:01.37 | thopiekar1 | qwerty12_N800: have you checked out my torrent, whether is works? |
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| 20:02.37 | qwerty12_N800 | on a tablet and transmission already has its allocation problems with 700MB files... |
| 20:02.57 | thopiekar1 | the torrent needs 2.1GB |
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| 20:12.28 | lardman | thopiekar1: it appears to work for me, 1 seed , 2 peers atm |
| 20:14.10 | Stskeeps | ponders what to do with the n800 with the display with problems. |
| 20:14.36 | qwerty12_N800 | roll it up & puff |
| 20:14.46 | GeneralAntilles | Server? |
| 20:14.51 | lardman | turn it into a usb rocket launcher controller |
| 20:14.54 | Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: yeah.. did consider that |
| 20:14.59 | GeneralAntilles | Builder? |
| 20:14.59 | Stskeeps | it is battery backed up after all |
| 20:15.03 | thopiekar_tablet | lardman: hehe |
| 20:15.10 | lardman | was that server or sever...? ;) |
| 20:15.37 | lardman | thopiekar_tablet: I do like the sound of those lauchers... :) |
| 20:15.59 | GeneralAntilles | Webcam missile launched |
| 20:16.09 | GeneralAntilles | Set it up on your desk so people can pelt you with foam missiles. |
| 20:16.24 | lardman | I want to kill wasps in my office |
| 20:16.47 | thopiekar_tablet | ok thanks for the torrent testing.. if you want you can download it and translate gnome by the language-options in the menu.. |
| 20:17.08 | lardman | I'm ok thanks, bit busy atm |
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| 20:19.35 | thopiekar_tablet | thought about a automatic aiming by detecting a red dot of a laiser pointer by a webcam |
| 20:19.43 | Guest9172_893 | i wanna concil opinion about new vista theme ;) |
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| 20:19.52 | thopiekar_tablet | for these rocket launchers |
| 20:20.15 | lardman | I've got a 21W laser in the lab, might just as well aim it directly |
| 20:20.19 | lardman | :) |
| 20:20.55 | thopiekar_tablet | don't want that maemo gets a windows-os |
| 20:21.05 | lardman | imagines the laser head mounted to the usb rocket launcher + webcam to see where it's aiming.... -> dead wasps (and blind officemates) |
| 20:21.22 | thopiekar_tablet | hehe |
| 20:21.35 | lardman | picks up his green goggles |
| 20:22.59 | qwerty12_N800 | Tried playing classical music to see if that gets rid of 'em? |
| 20:23.24 | lardman | was wondering if lethal bizzle in mono would do the job actually |
| 20:23.34 | lardman | but may suffer severe collateral damage |
| 20:23.40 | lardman | like everyone in the office :p |
| 20:23.51 | lardman | :D |
| 20:23.53 | GeneralAntilles | lol |
| 20:23.59 | qwerty12_N800 | :D |
| 20:24.50 | lardman | I'm actually tempted by one of those elastic band flicking gun things, might be quite fun |
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| 20:25.21 | lardman | remembers his childhood |
| 20:25.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | thopiekar_tablet, don't run the bluescreen applet, then |
| 20:25.45 | lardman | cardboard armout to avoid being shot by the paper pellets and all |
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| 20:26.05 | lardman | s/armout/armour |
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| 20:28.06 | qwerty12_N800 | lardman: wow, 1957 must've been the days :) |
| 20:28.46 | thopiekar_tablet | CutMeOwnThroat: the what? bluescreen applet? |
| 20:29.43 | lardman | lol, only 1978 thanks |
| 20:32.07 | qwerty12_N800 | hehe |
| 20:33.54 | lardman | ~curse the problems of 2D phase unwrapping |
| 20:33.55 | infobot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, the problems of 2D phase unwrapping ! |
| 20:34.05 | lardman | seems suitable |
| 20:35.56 | thopiekar1 | I don't know to who i'm uploading now.. my upload-speed is very slow.. 2-3kB/s! the optimal speed should be 50kB/s.. who of you is downloading from my torrent and where are you from? |
| 20:36.29 | lardman | not me |
| 20:42.00 | thopiekar1 | hmm |
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| 20:52.38 | pupnik | wget --restrict-file-names=unix broken on maemo. =windows works fine though |
| 20:52.44 | pupnik | the irony |
| 20:53.13 | pupnik | lobbs rotten fruit at people who create incompatible filenames/urls |
| 20:53.46 | GeneralAntilles | Lou Lobbs? |
| 20:55.20 | pupnik | hi GeneralAntilles |
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| 20:55.29 | pupnik | hows the battle going? |
| 20:55.39 | GeneralAntilles | Hi, pupnik. |
| 20:55.43 | GeneralAntilles | Which one? ;) |
| 20:55.45 | GeneralAntilles | I have many. |
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| 20:57.46 | GeneralAntilles | Ugh, it's 92°F out |
| 20:57.50 | lardman | heads off for the night, have a good one chaps |
| 20:57.53 | GeneralAntilles | Sure glad I'm not spending the summer here. |
| 20:57.57 | GeneralAntilles | Later, lardman. |
| 20:58.00 | pupnik | cheers lardman |
| 20:58.06 | lardman | 92F! about 45F here |
| 20:58.14 | lardman | night |
| 21:05.53 | guysoft42 | Stskeeps, yes. you can read so in the report, i tried with and without. |
| 21:06.19 | guysoft42 | lardman|away, how come you have no keyboard, you said you recreated thje bug, didn't you? |
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| 21:09.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | thopiekar1, in reply to "* thopiekar_tablet don't want that maemo gets a windows-os"? |
| 21:10.06 | thopiekar1 | aah :P |
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| 21:15.08 | guysoft42 | qwerty12_N800, in answer to your previous reply: do you know anyone that might know how to solve this? |
| 21:15.27 | qwerty12_N800 | nope |
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| 21:22.59 | woglinde | hi lcuk |
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| 21:28.02 | Jaffa | Right. Bed time. |
| 21:28.17 | GeneralAntilles | 'night, Jaffa. |
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| 23:05.56 | GAN800 | Anybody else really tired of the Star Trek trailer? |
| 23:15.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | <--- no TV for 8 years, not tired of TV anymore |
| 23:15.38 | derf | That's the way to do it. |
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| 23:18.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | (not wanting one either, though) |
| 23:18.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | I can waste my time on the Internet instead! |
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| 23:35.30 | luke-jr | libsupld1 -- where do I find the source? |
| 23:35.34 | luke-jr | the license in the deb is BSD |
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| 23:37.18 | johnx_ | uhm, luke-jr do you understand what the BSD license means? |
| 23:37.25 | luke-jr | johnx_: yeah |
| 23:37.31 | luke-jr | it means I can do whatever I feel with the code :P |
| 23:37.36 | johnx_ | that they can distribute binaries without source |
| 23:37.44 | luke-jr | why license it BSD at all then? |
| 23:37.48 | johnx_ | heh |
| 23:37.57 | johnx_ | ask them |
| 23:38.05 | luke-jr | afaik, it's 100% Nokia IP |
| 23:38.28 | johnx_ | and they can distribute source or binaries at their leisure |
| 23:38.46 | luke-jr | so they haven't? |
| 23:38.50 | luke-jr | sigh |
| 23:38.58 | johnx_ | google seems to suggest they haven't released source |
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| 23:39.04 | johnx_ | what do you need it for? |
| 23:39.17 | luke-jr | johnx_: I am making Gentoo packages |
| 23:39.19 | luke-jr | ⺠|
| 23:39.38 | luke-jr | and libsupl1 appears to have /media/mmc2/ hard coded :/ |
| 23:41.33 | luke-jr | might be small enough to reverse engineer |
| 23:41.41 | luke-jr | BSD lets me do that ;) |
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