| 00:00.20 | lcuk | didnt realise archos was on it though |
| 00:00.51 | GeneralAntilles | Archos 5 |
| 00:00.56 | GeneralAntilles | From last Summer |
| 00:01.11 | lcuk | cool then |
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| 00:06.48 | ds3 | GA: yes, that was one of the things that irked me; had the design the middle layer around them |
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| 00:07.07 | ds3 | had to design |
| 00:07.17 | GeneralAntilles | Huh? |
| 00:07.41 | ds3 | GA: that is mine... and I had to juggle the plastic around the connectors |
| 00:07.50 | ds3 | the S-Video was the the most irksome |
| 00:08.14 | GeneralAntilles | Oh |
| 00:08.16 | GeneralAntilles | Ha |
| 00:08.20 | GeneralAntilles | Stupid nick coloring |
| 00:08.29 | GeneralAntilles | Thought you were lcuk and it was a bit of a non-sequitor. :P |
| 00:08.35 | ds3 | Oh haha |
| 00:09.10 | ds3 | the problem with finishing it in about 80hrs is having to expediate shipping of some stuff |
| 00:09.15 | ds3 | that adds up :( |
| 00:09.20 | GeneralAntilles | lol |
| 00:10.02 | ds3 | and I am working on making it thinner... knocking off 0.25" is a no brainer |
| 00:10.10 | zakkm | any chance theres a screenshot for hildon-theme-sumea-mer ? |
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| 00:10.51 | GeneralAntilles | We need nanotech or something to make hobbyist mobile devices more feasible. :D |
| 00:11.16 | ds3 | other then the ports, what else would you like to make smaller? |
| 00:11.54 | GeneralAntilles | Less bezel or more buttons. |
| 00:12.06 | GeneralAntilles | 800x480 is a minimum |
| 00:12.35 | ds3 | got a source for a cheap 800x480 LCD? |
| 00:12.41 | ds3 | that was my problem |
| 00:12.53 | zakkm | you guys are going to make a MID? |
| 00:12.58 | GeneralAntilles | Found some N810 panels, but they were all from the UK. :\ |
| 00:13.21 | ds3 | zakkm: made one ;) |
| 00:13.30 | ds3 | it just sucks |
| 00:13.34 | zakkm | ds3: screenshot? |
| 00:13.49 | ds3 | zakkm: http://www.hy-research.com/beagle_mid.html |
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| 00:14.16 | zakkm | that was you? |
| 00:14.19 | zakkm | i saw it on engadget |
| 00:14.22 | ds3 | *nod* |
| 00:14.25 | ds3 | I am the nut |
| 00:15.04 | zakkm | wow, i got so intersted in that |
| 00:15.08 | GeneralAntilles | Be nice to get some expansion boards for the Beagle |
| 00:15.15 | zakkm | does it work well? |
| 00:15.20 | ds3 | there is a tidal wave of them on the way |
| 00:15.48 | GeneralAntilles | Really? Good. |
| 00:15.57 | zakkm | how good is the beagle mid? |
| 00:16.05 | ds3 | it works... it is a prototype... an idea. I wanted to do something that not too long ago was out of the hands of us mortals |
| 00:16.27 | ds3 | it isn't good... needs better software for starters |
| 00:16.28 | zakkm | going to market it? :P |
| 00:16.43 | ds3 | maybe as a kit if anyone wants to buy it |
| 00:16.50 | ds3 | like GA said, it is big, bulky and... |
| 00:17.19 | GeneralAntilles | Hobby kit would work. |
| 00:17.34 | ds3 | GA: any particular expansion ability you are looking for? |
| 00:17.42 | ds3 | expansion boards are nearly trivial to slap together |
| 00:17.57 | GeneralAntilles | Target the modelling crowd. ;) |
| 00:18.21 | GeneralAntilles | ds3, Gumstix has a nice set. |
| 00:18.25 | ds3 | you can hand wire them; that's what I did before |
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| 00:18.32 | ds3 | GA: gumstix connectors blow chunks |
| 00:18.43 | GeneralAntilles | Do they? |
| 00:18.54 | ds3 | tiny so you have to spin a PCB |
| 00:19.03 | ds3 | beagle has a 0.1" header so you can hand wire it |
| 00:19.25 | ds3 | can't dead bug those plastic thingies |
| 00:19.58 | GeneralAntilles | A wireless connectivity board would be good |
| 00:20.09 | GeneralAntilles | Especially since the USB stuff has suspect powersaving. |
| 00:20.46 | zakkm | ds3: you should keep working on the beagle mid, could become sickk :P |
| 00:20.53 | zakkm | like real market |
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| 00:22.13 | ds3 | GA: Bluetooth sufficient? |
| 00:22.38 | GeneralAntilles | WiFi would be nice. |
| 00:22.38 | ds3 | zakkm: got to do stuff to pay the bills first :/ |
| 00:22.55 | zakkm | right, always important |
| 00:23.04 | zakkm | wish i could pay my bills, my money just seems to go less and less |
| 00:23.13 | ds3 | why is everyone wanting WiFi? I find I rarely use my WiFi on my N800 outside of home |
| 00:23.36 | GeneralAntilles | Because we like to connect our devices to the internet? |
| 00:23.50 | ds3 | I use bluetooth for that outside of home |
| 00:23.59 | ds3 | the so call free wifi rarely works well |
| 00:24.16 | zakkm | wifi is important ;p |
| 00:24.25 | GeneralAntilles | Well, I have WiFi in most of the places I spend most of my time. |
| 00:24.25 | zakkm | speaking from a teenagers point of view |
| 00:24.42 | ds3 | I must manage to avoid those places |
| 00:24.49 | zakkm | the ipod touch did so well because it had wifi, and it had a easy fast browser ;p |
| 00:25.03 | GeneralAntilles | Home, school, work. |
| 00:25.05 | ds3 | the free places either 1 - lack signal strength or 2 - their DHCP servers are so overloaded I can't get an address |
| 00:25.31 | ds3 | dataplan + bt tether is slow but much more reliable |
| 00:25.45 | GeneralAntilles | I have that, too. |
| 00:25.50 | zakkm | could you stick a beagle board into an actual n800/n810? |
| 00:26.01 | GeneralAntilles | But don't want to have to rely on it when I have faster and more reliable WiFi as an option. |
| 00:26.04 | ds3 | no, case is a bit too small |
| 00:26.26 | GeneralAntilles | Bet you could shoehorn an Overo in there though |
| 00:26.28 | ds3 | when I first got the N800, I was trying to switch to the local wifi and that was frustrating |
| 00:27.39 | zakkm | n800 should of came with a faster cpu |
| 00:27.42 | GeneralAntilles | HSPA in the next one(s) should be nice |
| 00:27.54 | GeneralAntilles | zakkm, there wasn't anything faster in 2007. |
| 00:28.14 | zakkm | is there any rumour that there will be more than one tablet coming out? |
| 00:28.47 | GeneralAntilles | There are two codenames listed in the kernel: RX-51 and RX-71. |
| 00:28.52 | zakkm | like 2.. a 16gb weaker model.. and a 32gb faster.. or something |
| 00:28.54 | ds3 | GA: well, isn't the 2430 slightly faster? |
| 00:29.46 | GeneralAntilles | ds3, very marginally, but it wasn't out in 2007. |
| 00:29.54 | GeneralAntilles | Well, when the N800 was out, anyway. |
| 00:30.07 | GeneralAntilles | zakkm, I suspect the differences will be larger than that. |
| 00:30.23 | GeneralAntilles | Probably the same SoC, but maybe different formfactors. |
| 00:30.24 | zakkm | idea of what i meant by two. |
| 00:30.38 | zakkm | cause i dont have money and would like a faster tablet ;p |
| 00:30.56 | zakkm | although i believe n810 price will drop :) |
| 00:31.08 | GeneralAntilles | The N810 is not faster. |
| 00:31.15 | zakkm | i know |
| 00:31.20 | zakkm | but at least its a upgrade from n800 |
| 00:31.22 | ds3 | build your own! |
| 00:31.26 | zakkm | i wont have enough for a n900 |
| 00:31.32 | zakkm | or whatever it will be called |
| 00:31.37 | GeneralAntilles | It's not really an upgrade over the N800 |
| 00:31.43 | zakkm | build? im not that techy to be able to |
| 00:31.46 | GeneralAntilles | It's more of a sidegrade. |
| 00:31.50 | zakkm | i like phyiscal keyboards |
| 00:31.54 | zakkm | very much hate onscreen |
| 00:32.03 | zakkm | i didnt buy the ipod, cause the onscreen one was really small |
| 00:32.05 | zakkm | it drives me crazy |
| 00:32.13 | GeneralAntilles | Just wait for the price drop. |
| 00:33.42 | zakkm | cant wait ! :) |
| 00:33.48 | zakkm | you think i should sell the n800 and wait |
| 00:34.01 | zakkm | i dont mind not having one, and for mer testing i can use virtualbox |
| 00:34.15 | GeneralAntilles | I'd keep the N800 and wait. |
| 00:34.34 | fireun | keeps the 770s and waits |
| 00:34.42 | zakkm | my 770 wsod :( |
| 00:34.48 | zakkm | and then i didnt have warranty |
| 00:35.36 | fireun | the audio plug on one of mine is toast due to too many drops while plugged into the stereo |
| 00:35.50 | zakkm | 770 was cool, i would of kept it if i didnt wsod'd |
| 00:35.53 | fireun | and it also needs to have 2008 wiped and 2007he put back on |
| 00:35.58 | zakkm | but i got a nice deal for n800 ( $110 USD ) |
| 00:36.04 | fireun | nice |
| 00:36.18 | zakkm | and they came to where i work, so convinent too |
| 00:36.19 | fireun | doesnt want to say what his first 770 cost |
| 00:36.28 | zakkm | my 770 was $85 :D |
| 00:36.34 | zakkm | canadian. |
| 00:36.49 | zakkm | $62 USD |
| 00:37.10 | zakkm | i like 2007OS better than diablo heh |
| 00:37.33 | zakkm | if it wasnt for that DSP thing, i would be using 2007 |
| 00:37.34 | fireun | waits for mer to be usable |
| 00:37.52 | zakkm | is currently downloading mer 0.11 vmdk |
| 00:37.52 | fireun | android would be fine too, if it was reviewed as being no slower than 2008 |
| 00:38.04 | fireun | but I know it aint there yet |
| 00:38.06 | zakkm | it is fast, just unstable heh |
| 00:38.13 | zakkm | nitdroid is so unstable |
| 00:38.29 | zakkm | but its faster than maemo |
| 00:38.31 | fireun | unstable is what I've got with 2008, so I'm in no hurry |
| 00:38.38 | zakkm | heh |
| 00:38.40 | fireun | unstable AND slow |
| 00:38.41 | fireun | (: |
| 00:38.44 | zakkm | system reboots? freezes? |
| 00:38.46 | fireun | and a memory/cpu hog |
| 00:38.54 | zakkm | lack of onscreen keyboard working |
| 00:39.17 | GeneralAntilles | I've paid full price for two tablets. |
| 00:39.18 | fireun | I have the cpu/mem applet going, so its clear that the slowdowns/freezing is because its out of swap/ram |
| 00:39.35 | zakkm | 2008 is slow on 770, i remember it heh |
| 00:39.36 | fireun | 2007HE at least keeps its hat on |
| 00:39.43 | zakkm | but on n800 its the opposite |
| 00:39.50 | zakkm | i love 2007 UI |
| 00:40.00 | fireun | 2008 starts out faster, but slows from there |
| 00:40.08 | zakkm | might reflash with it just for fun :D |
| 00:41.00 | fireun | I know its never going to be fast hardware, I just want reliable, solid and "stable" net browser/note editor |
| 00:41.29 | fireun | IM would be nice, but its kind of a one or maybe two app device, running IM just takes resources that would make browsing more useful (: |
| 00:41.29 | zakkm | heh |
| 00:41.51 | zakkm | thats why they should of shipped with faster processors :) |
| 00:41.54 | fireun | I also use it as the net-music-stream->stereo widget |
| 00:42.14 | fireun | although it would be nice to control it remotely so I dont have to go into the other room to restart a stream or switch streams |
| 00:42.22 | zakkm | ssh? |
| 00:42.32 | zakkm | why not mpd? |
| 00:42.35 | zakkm | mpd should do |
| 00:42.43 | fireun | zakkm: I'm over the "needs faster, more ram, bigger screen, bigger drive" craving mode. |
| 00:42.45 | zakkm | have mpd server in other room, and run like sonata on your tablet |
| 00:43.02 | zakkm | lol i get jealous by ppl with ipod touch's, it goes so fast |
| 00:43.06 | fireun | bigger better blah blah more money/never satisfied =gets old |
| 00:43.30 | zakkm | i kno |
| 00:43.32 | zakkm | i want a 770 ;p |
| 00:43.39 | zakkm | scared it would of wsod again though |
| 00:44.01 | GeneralAntilles | 770 is the suck |
| 00:44.01 | fireun | what causes wsod? overflashwritting? |
| 00:44.11 | fireun | GeneralAntilles: you kids just want the shiny |
| 00:44.12 | zakkm | lcd screen controller i believe |
| 00:44.25 | GeneralAntilles | Overvoltage on the controller |
| 00:45.52 | GeneralAntilles | fireun, nah, I want a decent browsing experience a reasonably fast video decoding. |
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| 00:55.32 | zakkm | hey guys , this is intersting, an actual distro that takes a maemo sort of window manager approach |
| 00:55.38 | zakkm | desktop distro* |
| 00:55.46 | zakkm | http://xpud.org/ |
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| 00:56.18 | zakkm | http://xpud.org/screenshot/xpud-0.8.9-4.png <-- other screenshot |
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| 01:00.29 | tds5016 | hello. where can I get pygpsbt? |
| 01:00.33 | tds5016 | I don't see it in the repos. |
| 01:01.23 | ds3 | heh.... "it's small too" ... under 48MB.... |
| 01:03.39 | tds5016 | what? |
| 01:04.34 | ds3 | the xpud.org distro |
| 01:05.07 | ds3 | it is almost like calling a Chevy tahoe a small car |
| 01:05.22 | tds5016 | oh. haha. |
| 01:05.48 | tds5016 | this is kinda frustrating that pygpsbt didn't install with python :-/ |
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| 01:10.20 | tds5016 | nvm... I had to run sudo apt-get update to get the apt-cache to update. |
| 01:10.21 | tds5016 | haha. |
| 01:19.10 | zakkm | ds3: just thought it reminded me of maemo/mer |
| 01:19.25 | zakkm | home, menu and stuff at left side.. apps on right side |
| 01:20.03 | tds5016 | wow, maemo and python are like a freakin' dream to develop with! |
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| 01:20.14 | zakkm | ? |
| 01:20.34 | ds3 | zakkm: it does look like it... I just fine the claim of size funny |
| 01:20.56 | zakkm | claim of size? |
| 01:21.00 | zakkm | its downloadable? |
| 01:21.12 | zakkm | saw it on distrowatch |
| 01:25.59 | tds5016 | anyone know where I can start the gps/ |
| 01:26.01 | tds5016 | ?* |
| 01:26.09 | tds5016 | a quick app that'll try to start the gps, that is. |
| 01:29.39 | ds3 | it says under 48M on the page |
| 01:36.00 | tds5016 | how do I open up the gps to try to get a signal? |
| 01:40.33 | zakkm | ds3: i know, its not lying and its 48mb iso, compressed of course |
| 01:40.47 | zakkm | suppose to boot in under 10 seconds too |
| 01:41.51 | ds3 | even if it is uncompressed, 48M isn't exactly small |
| 01:42.22 | tds5016 | wow, the gps on this is absolutely worthless... |
| 01:42.23 | tds5016 | haha. |
| 01:42.37 | Pavlov | on the n810? |
| 01:43.21 | tds5016 | yeah. |
| 01:43.30 | tds5016 | haha, I can't get a damned connection no matter WHAT I do. |
| 01:43.31 | tds5016 | ahha. |
| 01:43.31 | Pavlov | yeah it is a joke |
| 01:43.37 | Pavlov | go outside |
| 01:43.48 | Pavlov | wait 20 minutes |
| 01:43.48 | tds5016 | ... I was. |
| 01:43.48 | tds5016 | haha! |
| 01:43.49 | tds5016 | oh, 20 minutes.... |
| 01:43.50 | tds5016 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.55 | zakkm | its unusable |
| 01:44.00 | tds5016 | yeah, pretty much. |
| 01:44.05 | zakkm | it is a gps, but it is very very unusable |
| 01:45.26 | tds5016 | and the fact it had a gps and a camera in it was part of why we bought it. |
| 01:45.27 | tds5016 | haha. |
| 01:45.49 | zakkm | that was a mistake :D |
| 01:46.01 | zakkm | wanna sell it? :) |
| 01:46.02 | tds5016 | oh well, we'll probably end up buying a cheap bluetooth gps. |
| 01:46.03 | tds5016 | haha. |
| 01:46.06 | tds5016 | nope. not at all. |
| 01:46.14 | tds5016 | I was one for personal use after developing for it. |
| 01:46.15 | zakkm | offer up my n800 and $50 ? |
| 01:46.15 | tds5016 | haha. |
| 01:46.28 | tds5016 | want* |
| 01:46.39 | tds5016 | the thing is beautifully easy to develop for! |
| 01:47.07 | tds5016 | haha, it'd be nice if I could rip the GPS out of this thing complete. |
| 01:47.11 | tds5016 | completely* |
| 01:47.12 | tds5016 | haha. |
| 01:48.08 | tds5016 | I won't need this for a while... but do you know how I can install a python program on the maemo? |
| 01:48.16 | tds5016 | without using the command line to launch it* |
| 01:49.38 | qwerty12_N800 | a desktop file in /usr/share/applications/hildon (the folder is full of tons of them) |
| 01:50.00 | tds5016 | of python apps? |
| 01:50.10 | tds5016 | how do I give it an icon, and a place in the menu? |
| 01:50.14 | qwerty12_N800 | no, a desktop file |
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| 01:50.36 | tds5016 | oh, I don't want it to be a desktop file. haha. I need to be able to launch the program from a menu. |
| 01:50.47 | tds5016 | well, that would be the most desireable solution, that is. |
| 01:51.01 | qwerty12_N800 | yes, a desktop file is required for that. |
| 01:51.16 | lcuk | the .desktop file related to an installed program is what is run when you click on a menu item |
| 01:51.21 | qwerty12_N800 | just look in the folder, you'll get what i'm saying. |
| 01:51.21 | tds5016 | oh okay, thanks! I'll probably be back to bother you guys about that again :-) |
| 01:51.31 | lcuk | it also tells the menu itself what icon to use |
| 01:51.33 | tds5016 | oh okay :-) |
| 01:51.44 | tds5016 | I'll be back to bother you guys for that. |
| 01:51.49 | lcuk | and the actual command line to execute |
| 01:52.05 | lcuk | tds5016, khertan does lots of python stuff |
| 01:52.08 | tds5016 | I really have to get home now. haha, it's been a long day of playing with this device. I gotta say, I'm kinda stoked for how it'll turn out :-) |
| 01:52.23 | lcuk | he also has a python app packager |
| 01:52.31 | tds5016 | lcuk: I'm learning python as I go. haha. |
| 01:52.34 | lcuk | specifically geared to setting up a .deb from a python app |
| 01:53.18 | lcuk | wonders why he is still awake |
| 01:53.55 | tds5016 | oh, an installer would be a crazy sexy solution, and I like debs ;-) |
| 01:54.09 | tds5016 | haha, that's one thing debian did right, for the most part. |
| 01:54.17 | tds5016 | haha, the package management is pretty sexy haha. |
| 01:54.24 | qwerty12_N800 | blames lcuk for his being awake |
| 01:54.51 | tds5016 | haha, I blame PSU ;-) |
| 01:55.01 | tds5016 | I shoulda known better than to say I'd do research. |
| 01:55.04 | tds5016 | haha... |
| 01:55.36 | tds5016 | if you ever go to a university that is known for research, take no part in it, unless u wanna have WAYY to much to do. |
| 01:55.37 | tds5016 | haha. |
| 01:56.42 | lcuk | if you ever go to a university where you are actually being pushed to learn and you dont want to be there ;) give up your seat for someone who does |
| 01:57.09 | tds5016 | haha, lcuk this is for funding for the college mostly. |
| 01:57.13 | tds5016 | haha, not being pushed to learn. |
| 01:57.14 | tds5016 | haha. |
| 01:57.20 | tds5016 | I enjoy learning, as is. |
| 01:57.26 | tds5016 | haha, plus I like to bitch, obviously :-D |
| 01:57.27 | tds5016 | hahaha! |
| 01:57.51 | tds5016 | actually, I'm just talking shit, I love this place, in total honesty. |
| 01:58.09 | tds5016 | I'm going to be sorry to leave, but I'm gonna get warm weather when I go :-D. |
| 01:58.22 | tds5016 | sorry, I'm off topic, I know. |
| 01:58.26 | lcuk | damn you |
| 01:58.31 | tds5016 | damn me? |
| 01:58.33 | lcuk | where are you heading to |
| 01:58.36 | lcuk | yes |
| 01:58.41 | tds5016 | San Jose, California :-) |
| 01:58.42 | lcuk | i live in manchester england, it rains |
| 01:59.00 | zakkm | lcuk: my mom grew up there :) |
| 01:59.03 | zakkm | beautiful placeee :P |
| 01:59.05 | tds5016 | oh, I'd love to go to england. haha. Just to visit though. |
| 01:59.16 | zakkm | been to manchester, 3 trips |
| 01:59.24 | tds5016 | the rain/dreary weather = stab myself in the face. |
| 01:59.29 | zakkm | like 3 plane trips |
| 01:59.34 | tds5016 | you a big manchester united fan? |
| 01:59.57 | lcuk | last time i flew back from france, it was sunshine all the way, until we descended into the clouds |
| 02:00.05 | lcuk | i have forgotten what the sun actually looks like |
| 02:00.11 | lcuk | barring photographs |
| 02:00.13 | zakkm | lcuk: you close to bury? |
| 02:00.35 | lcuk | work near there, live on the other side of town tho |
| 02:00.38 | tds5016 | haha, yeah, I've forgotten what ground looks like, it snows so damned much in State College, PA |
| 02:00.39 | tds5016 | haha. |
| 02:00.52 | tds5016 | it's always like three feet of snow. |
| 02:00.52 | zakkm | ever go into "town" in bury |
| 02:01.04 | zakkm | theres like the market, and Asda and stuff |
| 02:01.09 | tds5016 | mmkay, I gotta leave my office and get back to my apartment. haha. |
| 02:01.24 | lcuk | been a few times, its nothing special |
| 02:01.26 | lcuk | lol |
| 02:01.29 | zakkm | lol |
| 02:01.32 | zakkm | my favourite |
| 02:01.40 | zakkm | theres like a weird shopping center |
| 02:01.48 | zakkm | and a subway and library |
| 02:01.58 | lcuk | you knwo far too much |
| 02:02.02 | zakkm | ? |
| 02:02.06 | zakkm | I live in Toronto , Canada. |
| 02:02.11 | lcuk | exactly |
| 02:02.15 | zakkm | lol |
| 02:02.16 | lcuk | remove bury from your mind :) |
| 02:02.19 | zakkm | how do i know far too much? |
| 02:02.22 | lcuk | theres more good stuff lol |
| 02:02.24 | zakkm | its the only place i do know |
| 02:02.31 | zakkm | well you said manchester. |
| 02:02.43 | tds5016 | lcuk: I think he's stalking you.... |
| 02:02.45 | tds5016 | haha. |
| 02:02.46 | lcuk | i suppose its better than being asked if im a MUFC fan ;) |
| 02:02.55 | zakkm | didnt go into manchester all that much, cant remember it anyways .. i got a black eye in blackpool |
| 02:03.15 | lcuk | heh, from a 17stone girl with a mustache? |
| 02:03.26 | zakkm | ? |
| 02:03.31 | lcuk | your black eye |
| 02:03.36 | tds5016 | haha, were you drunk and getting frisky with her? |
| 02:03.37 | tds5016 | haha. |
| 02:03.39 | zakkm | cant remember how it happened |
| 02:03.45 | zakkm | it was like 5 years ago |
| 02:03.46 | lcuk | thats what she said |
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| 02:04.09 | tds5016 | and btw, wtf is a stone? |
| 02:04.10 | tds5016 | haha. |
| 02:04.18 | zakkm | 11 lbs |
| 02:04.21 | zakkm | 1 stone = 11 lbs |
| 02:04.22 | tds5016 | sorry, I'm such a sad american :-/. |
| 02:04.28 | zakkm | 17 stones = 187 lbs.. weight |
| 02:04.43 | tds5016 | wow, that was some ridiculous quick conversions going on, you have to do that one often? |
| 02:04.44 | zakkm | in the uk they use pebbles and stones.. rather than lbs |
| 02:04.58 | zakkm | do what? |
| 02:05.01 | lcuk | heh @ peblles |
| 02:05.01 | tds5016 | haha, I'm gonna start measuring in stones just to throw people off from now on. |
| 02:05.02 | tds5016 | haha. |
| 02:05.05 | zakkm | its 11 .. 11x17 = 187 doesnt it? |
| 02:05.20 | zakkm | im a grocery store cashier.. mess with numbers enough |
| 02:06.17 | zakkm | lcuk: you like manchester? |
| 02:06.32 | Lanza | google says 14lbs per stone |
| 02:06.40 | lcuk | yeah, but would prefer it to be warmer |
| 02:06.43 | tds5016 | I'm going to be a software engineer for a fortune 500, I have a feeling I'm going to be dealing with numbers a bit more than I'd like to. haha. |
| 02:06.47 | zakkm | 14? really? |
| 02:06.53 | zakkm | i was told it was 11 when i was younger |
| 02:07.03 | lcuk | inflation |
| 02:07.17 | zakkm | damn im wrong, im sorry |
| 02:07.18 | lcuk | mcdonalds |
| 02:07.19 | tds5016 | lcuk: haha, the american women prove it... |
| 02:08.07 | tds5016 | ;-) |
| 02:08.22 | lcuk | heh |
| 02:08.37 | tds5016 | okay, time to finally get home. |
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| 02:11.38 | tds5016 | thanks for all your help tonight guys. |
| 02:11.43 | tds5016 | I'll talk to you all tomorrow. |
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| 02:31.57 | lcuk | \o gnite |
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| 07:17.13 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 07:18.28 | Stskeeps | morning jaffa |
| 07:20.54 | x29a | moin |
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| 07:24.54 | b0unc3 | good morning |
| 07:27.53 | thux | morning |
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| 07:45.03 | X-Fade | Morning |
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| 07:48.40 | RST38h | Mo[u]rning all |
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| 08:06.05 | Stskeeps | does anyone understand why the home city / out city thing is needed in Maemo? :P |
| 08:06.28 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: For the calendar backend? |
| 08:06.39 | Stskeeps | mm, maybe |
| 08:07.07 | X-Fade | Not really being used atm, but Fremantle has a lot more services which might depend on it. |
| 08:07.23 | X-Fade | As it is a lot more location aware. |
| 08:07.28 | Stskeeps | yeah, true |
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| 08:11.50 | RST38h | Sts: It is for when you travel |
| 08:12.23 | Stskeeps | mm |
| 08:12.32 | Stskeeps | ponders idly how they change timezones |
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| 08:15.04 | RST38h | that said, it is pretty useless right now because you cannot tell it that you travel |
| 08:15.11 | Stskeeps | true |
| 08:21.09 | X-Fade | Yeah, last month I was travelling from NL to FI, FI to SE and SE, FI, NL. Well enough timezone changes there ;) |
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| 08:21.28 | X-Fade | It would be nice if it probably tracked location/timezone. |
| 08:21.44 | X-Fade | Especially when you have to wake up at a certain time ;) |
| 08:21.47 | Stskeeps | yeah, from GPS :P |
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| 08:25.18 | Pavlov | timezones are hard |
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| 08:31.54 | RST38h | The only problem is that right now it is YOU who is telling it the location via AGPS tool :) |
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| 08:50.01 | wazd | Hello world |
| 08:53.49 | lbt | HELLO |
| 08:54.57 | RST38h | Hell wazd |
| 08:55.02 | RST38h | Umgh |
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| 09:03.02 | RST38h | Vandals take down Internet, emergency, and voice services in California! |
| 09:03.38 | RST38h | 10 cables. 4 locations. All it takes. |
| 09:04.56 | lbt | URL? |
| 09:07.26 | Stskeeps | RST38h: the worst threat against infrastructure is not terrorists. it's stupid people in bulldozers |
| 09:09.11 | RST38h | Sts: These weren't stupid people |
| 09:09.36 | mgedmin | smart people in bulldozers are scarier |
| 09:09.46 | RST38h | Sts: They knew what to cut and where. And, miraculously, AT&T has been having a dispute with its trade union just now =) |
| 09:09.54 | mgedmin | have you read about that guy who welded armor to a bulldozer and went on a rampage? |
| 09:09.54 | RST38h | mgdemin <-- speaketh the truth |
| 09:09.58 | mgedmin | the police could do nothing to him |
| 09:10.13 | RST38h | lbt: http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/10/vandals-take-down-internet-emergency-and-voice-services-in-cal/ |
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| 09:10.36 | RST38h | mgedmin: Well, police does not plan, and that guy did |
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| 09:11.18 | Stskeeps | 'The manhole covers are heavy," he said, "and would take quite an effort to lift, perhaps even requiring a tool." ' |
| 09:11.23 | Stskeeps | ... |
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| 09:14.26 | RST38h | Sts: Yea, this is what the world looks like to a layman |
| 09:14.54 | RST38h | Sts: Manholes are heavy, doors marked "do not enter" are locked, and everything is a black box |
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| 09:15.53 | RST38h | God bless those people, while they are the majority, I will have steady income :) |
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| 09:26.08 | lbt | RST38h: ta .... I wonder if 4 locations are "up there, over there, here and here" or 4 facilites many miles apart? |
| 09:27.36 | RST38h | lbt: It says San Francisco. The city isn't that big. |
| 09:29.35 | lbt | even so, different buildings suggest a different kind of intent than vandalising a single room or two |
| 09:30.16 | RST38h | lbt: IMHO, anything that involves going down a manhole and cutting the right cable isn't "vandalising" |
| 09:30.35 | lbt | how many wrong cables were cut? |
| 09:30.45 | RST38h | It says 10 |
| 09:30.51 | lbt | just wondering how targetted it was |
| 09:31.04 | RST38h | Ah, you mean the right/wrong ratio |
| 09:31.06 | lbt | yes, but if they cut 100 and got the 10 critical ones... |
| 09:31.07 | lbt | yes |
| 09:31.16 | lbt | or if there were only 10 |
| 09:31.27 | RST38h | The article does not say, although I do not think a manhole may contain more than 5-10 total |
| 09:31.45 | lbt | luck vs judgement... |
| 09:32.15 | RST38h | Most likely judgement though. |
| 09:32.38 | lbt | ah... http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/09/2044205 130am then 3:30am in another town(?) |
| 09:33.21 | lbt | sounds much more precise |
| 09:33.31 | RST38h | Perfect |
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| 09:34.12 | RST38h | is eagerly awaiting some new religion or ideology that well give smart people smart reasons to commit acts like this |
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| 09:34.27 | RST38h | This will provide for years of fun |
| 09:34.40 | lbt | true |
| 09:35.49 | Stskeeps | RST38h: i think it already exists though.. or atleast imagined up in sci fi |
| 09:36.07 | RST38h | Sts: "imagined" won't do, I can imagine much scarier things |
| 09:36.14 | Stskeeps | true |
| 09:36.30 | Stskeeps | 1984 was actually slightly weak compared to what actually went on in soviet, heh |
| 09:36.34 | RST38h | Sts: And the 40-virgins clause also does not work on anyone worth his shit |
| 09:37.02 | RST38h | Sts: Not really. .SU wasn't THAT scary |
| 09:37.18 | RST38h | Sts: More of a pain in the ass really |
| 09:37.23 | Stskeeps | *nod* |
| 09:48.40 | thux | is there known rootkits in maemo? so strange my diablo behaves, slowly screen is sluggish like heavy load but load applet doesn't show |
| 09:48.58 | X-Fade | thux: Can be IO. |
| 09:49.30 | thux | howto find out? |
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| 09:51.10 | RST38h | Install htop |
| 09:51.31 | RST38h | Run it (preferably from remote console, it likes huge consoles) and see what it shows |
| 09:52.04 | thux | ok i try that, thanks |
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| 10:10.02 | thux | htop shows that even when tablet idles cpu is used 13% and half of memory is used, are these normal figures? |
| 10:10.32 | X-Fade | thux: cpu usage is probably htop + your console ;) |
| 10:11.38 | thux | hehe |
| 10:12.07 | thux | yes 13% when idle is like vista in lap |
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| 10:37.46 | lcuk | thux, if 13% idle is considered "normal" we would have to charge batteries every couple of hours |
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| 10:38.32 | lcuk | o_O 498 thanks on iTT |
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| 10:49.27 | RST38h | 2 more... |
| 10:51.11 | lcuk | RST38h, its like pokemon! |
| 10:51.35 | RST38h | do thanks from different people give you different types of attacks? |
| 10:52.58 | lcuk | yeah rst :D |
| 10:53.32 | lcuk | you keep up with slashdot dont you |
| 10:54.43 | lbt | 499 |
| 10:56.51 | RST38h | has slashdot in the rss |
| 10:56.55 | lcuk | o_O |
| 10:58.01 | lcuk | RST38h, they just implemtned a proper achievements section |
| 10:58.10 | lcuk | its something we could have on maemo :D |
| 10:58.24 | lcuk | "typed a word using osk" |
| 10:59.24 | RST38h | does not like this stuff |
| 10:59.31 | RST38h | It breeds karma whores |
| 10:59.48 | RST38h | Simple "thanks" is ok, but making it elaborate breeds karma whores |
| 11:00.32 | lcuk | it makes the game fun! |
| 11:00.39 | lcuk | is a whore |
| 11:02.21 | lcuk | qwerty12, on the text input poll you put yourself in OSK land, have you tried an 810? |
| 11:02.47 | qwerty12 | It was a mistake, I wasn't reading properly and wanted to go for stylus keyboard >.< |
| 11:04.02 | lcuk | there wasnt a stylus keyboard option :P |
| 11:04.22 | qwerty12 | the numpad stuff then, dunno :P |
| 11:04.56 | lcuk | the main problem with the hard keyboard though isnt text entry, its numerics |
| 11:07.58 | lcuk | gets hacking |
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| 11:12.58 | RST38h | lcuk: imho the main problem is the damn dpad |
| 11:13.12 | RST38h | And the way whole device seems to tumble over all the time |
| 11:15.59 | lcuk | heh RST38h ive never had that problem |
| 11:16.07 | lcuk | its so rare i take it out of its case |
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| 11:16.23 | lcuk | and it just leans up against my monitor when im not holding it |
| 11:16.27 | RST38h | lcuk: Mine tumbles WITH the case :) |
| 11:16.46 | RST38h | Miraculously, you can still type through that layer of plastic |
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| 11:17.46 | lcuk | RST38h, http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=810cratelaptopmodetc6.jpg |
| 11:17.52 | lcuk | my wodden case thingy |
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| 11:18.26 | RST38h | Urgh |
| 11:18.42 | RST38h | lcuk: It's a laptop! |
| 11:19.13 | lcuk | i dont use the apple keyboard most of the time, its just a big book |
| 11:19.20 | lcuk | i can pick it up and throw it around properly |
| 11:19.27 | RST38h | Heh |
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| 11:48.40 | tank-man | thats a funky enter key on that apple keyboard |
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| 11:49.32 | tank-man | left shift too |
| 11:49.32 | lcuk | tank-man, its one of the nicest keyboards ive ever typed on |
| 11:49.32 | lcuk | ^compact |
| 11:49.46 | lcuk | considering its so small and the keys have so little travel, its extremely tactile and each key is big and easy to hit |
| 11:49.48 | tank-man | i have the same aluminum apple keyboard but with normal shift/enter keys |
| 11:49.55 | lcuk | ahh |
| 11:51.08 | tank-man | whats the wooden case for? |
| 11:51.21 | tank-man | stand on the n810 broken? |
| 11:57.15 | lcuk | tank-man, no its more for reading and generally throwing around |
| 11:57.34 | RST38h | He throws his n810 at his cat! |
| 11:57.58 | lcuk | when im lay in bed i can rest it sideways and just use my hand to support it (with finger on dpad enter for next page) |
| 11:58.32 | lcuk | can read for hours that way without arm ache :) |
| 11:59.03 | lcuk | and when im writing on it - my wrist rests on the wooden side - its at the same level as the screen |
| 11:59.14 | lcuk | so its like writing on a proper pad |
| 11:59.29 | lcuk | without it you have to hold wrist in the air and its uncomfortable :) |
| 12:00.01 | RST38h | thecorrect way is, of course, to hold it vertically... |
| 12:00.19 | lcuk | i do RST38h |
| 12:00.43 | lcuk | i rest it on my tummy and its at the right level for my eyes |
| 12:01.42 | lcuk | http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/8233/810crateanglexe7.jpg |
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| 12:02.02 | lcuk | http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/1256/810crateemptyhm3.jpg |
| 12:03.55 | lcuk | i should put those pics on liqbase.net now |
| 12:04.10 | lcuk | along with the explanation lol |
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| 12:21.29 | tank-man | your wooden holder has inspired me to build a hands free holder out of pvc pipes |
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| 12:22.17 | lcuk | heh tank-man cool |
| 12:22.29 | lcuk | lbt does stuff with piping |
| 12:22.35 | lcuk | (hes multitalented lol) |
| 12:23.21 | RST38h | Just sew a sleeve with a pocket for the n810 |
| 12:23.25 | RST38h | And wear it |
| 12:23.45 | RST38h | But, of course, if you find a wide enough PVC pipe... :) |
| 12:23.59 | tank-man | http://justoutsideboston.files.wordpress.com/2006/12/vw_beetle_laptop_desk_1.jpg |
| 12:24.03 | tank-man | something like that but smaller |
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| 12:29.22 | lcuk | tank-man, what are you gonna plug the other end into |
| 12:29.34 | tank-man | bed frame |
| 12:29.52 | tank-man | its going to be more elaborate, going to have moving joints :) |
| 12:30.09 | lcuk | o_O |
| 12:30.15 | lcuk | dedication! |
| 12:30.49 | lcuk | you could use powered joints and have it waking you up in the morning |
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| 12:34.20 | RST38h | tank-man: I hope you are already considering adding adeadly laser? |
| 12:36.22 | lcuk | that would require modifications to the PVC locking mechanism |
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| 12:36.37 | lcuk | testing has shown it does not lock correctly to the dorsal fin |
| 12:37.00 | RST38h | You have got dorsal fins? |
| 12:37.07 | lcuk | no but the sharks do |
| 12:38.49 | RST38h | You are not giving your beloved n810 to sharks, are you? |
| 12:40.25 | lcuk | they can have the 800 :D |
| 12:46.13 | tank-man | i think im switching to wire coat hanger + duct tape |
| 12:46.27 | tank-man | my n800 is pretty light |
| 12:49.08 | RST38h | ah, the fashionable pyramidal shape! |
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| 13:10.02 | lopz | hola |
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| 13:36.53 | RST38h | ...Slashdot gets a mention on page 45 not as a terrorist organization itself, but as one of the places that member of Anonymous may hang out... |
| 13:37.40 | RST38h | "Anonymous consists largely of users from multiple internet sites such as 4chan, 711chan, 420chan, Something Awful, Fark, Encyclopedia Dramatica, Slashdot, IRC channels, and YouTube." |
| 13:38.03 | MakeGho | is this a copypaste from somewhere? |
| 13:38.19 | RST38h | Make: Guess where |
| 13:38.35 | MakeGho | ohh. |
| 13:38.36 | RST38h | Stskeeps: Remember what I said this morning? ;) |
| 13:38.48 | MakeGho | well, tell me |
| 13:38.50 | Stskeeps | RST38h: no, my memory is shot :P |
| 13:39.28 | MakeGho | oh right. |
| 13:39.45 | MakeGho | Found it, wasn't too hard. :P |
| 13:40.10 | RST38h | Stskeeps: That there has to be some cult for the smart people that makes them terrorists |
| 13:40.23 | Stskeeps | ah |
| 13:40.26 | RST38h | Stskeeps: Behold the Cult of Anonymous! :) |
| 13:40.29 | Stskeeps | true, true |
| 13:40.55 | Stskeeps | RST38h: i'm actually more afraid of anonymous mindset than let's say, punkers and some of the more extremist protestors |
| 13:40.56 | RST38h | A few more years, some persecution for police, a couple of martyrs, and we are all set up for fun |
| 13:41.03 | RST38h | s/for/by |
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| 13:41.47 | RST38h | Stskeeps: Well, "DO IT FOR LULZ" is one ideology that can be used, but not the only one =) |
| 13:48.42 | lcuk | what are the other *chans about, ive heard of 4chan |
| 13:49.21 | lcuk | are they just dupes thereof or contain different stuff? |
| 13:49.59 | RST38h | same shit |
| 13:50.17 | RST38h | originate from some .jp based forums for anime lovers |
| 13:50.56 | RST38h | the european ones were also started by anime guys but have now become not limited to anime |
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| 14:04.14 | b-man` | was allmost successful in booting nitdroid in qemu while booted in Mer on his N800 :) |
| 14:04.55 | Stskeeps | hehe |
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| 14:09.13 | b-man` | Allthough the debugging kernel that i was using with the emulator was erroring out because of a fuew missing components in the android image |
| 14:10.10 | b-man` | but it runs ok, amazingly |
| 14:10.35 | b-man` | the startup is quite slow |
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| 14:11.05 | b-man` | but after it boots the kernel it runs fine :) |
| 14:12.02 | b-man` | will upload screenshots |
| 14:13.37 | b-man` | wonders what would happen if he booted mer in qemu in mer XD |
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| 14:36.19 | Macer | workworkwork |
| 14:37.29 | Macer | Stskeeps: how about that AWESOME usps tracking huh ? :) |
| 14:38.01 | Stskeeps | Macer: well, it's holidays in .dk right now |
| 14:38.07 | Stskeeps | so they probably don't sort maill |
| 14:38.18 | Macer | heh.. here too.. but the tracking is so vague |
| 14:38.32 | Macer | ups and fedex probably have your pkg integrated into google maps with gps positioning |
| 14:38.35 | Stskeeps | they should just put in a gps coordinate.. |
| 14:38.38 | Macer | usps says "left US" |
| 14:38.40 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 14:38.47 | Macer | :) |
| 14:39.18 | Macer | ah well.. gotta go. hope it makes it there in time for your thing |
| 14:39.44 | Stskeeps | thanks |
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| 17:56.43 | lcuk | z4chh, you got your wiring back in shape |
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| 18:12.30 | shpaq | anyone here with n770 and working advanced-power? |
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| 18:14.50 | lakin | note to self: close window != autojoin on startup |
| 18:15.27 | Stskeeps | yes, so it goes |
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| 18:19.00 | lakin | Is this the appropriate location to ask questions regarding getting a scratchbox and sdk up and running? |
| 18:19.18 | Stskeeps | yeah.. but it isn't a support channel, so don't expect answers, but some may answer :P |
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| 18:19.43 | Stskeeps | so give it a go :) |
| 18:19.55 | lakin | heh, cool. Using this as a guide - http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=453 - I installed the Diablo scratchbox and SDK. Everything worked fine the first time through, including running xephyr and the test program. Rebooted my computer and started it all up again, and now I'm these: http://pastie.org/443024 |
| 18:20.16 | Stskeeps | ubuntu? |
| 18:20.35 | lakin | yeah |
| 18:21.08 | Stskeeps | echo 4096 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/mmap_min_addr |
| 18:21.11 | Stskeeps | (from outside sb) |
| 18:21.19 | Stskeeps | echo 0 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/vdso_enabled |
| 18:21.21 | Stskeeps | as well |
| 18:24.35 | lakin | oh. |
| 18:24.49 | lakin | Yeah, I thought I had that in sysctl.conf - so I figured those applied - thanks Stskeeps |
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| 18:25.21 | qwerty12_N800 | one of the files in /etc/sysctl.d will override it |
| 18:25.22 | lakin | Sweet! Thanks a bunch |
| 18:25.57 | b-man` | starts blasting his music |
| 18:26.38 | lakin | qwerty12_N800: thanks. I'll probably just remember I need those from now on |
| 18:26.47 | lcuk | Stskeeps, sure its a support chan :P ive heard all sorts of things over the months |
| 18:26.56 | lcuk | "how do i cook bacon perfectly?" |
| 18:27.12 | b-man` | lol |
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| 18:30.14 | lcuk | watches bablyon 5 |
| 18:30.30 | lcuk | also kicks z4chh and tangles more of his wires |
| 18:31.31 | RST38h | back |
| 18:32.10 | b-man` | Stskeeps: same error XP |
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| 19:01.51 | GeneralAntilles | Nice Cortex phones on the horizon, too bad they all have crippling faults. |
| 19:02.24 | ShadowJK | unflashable? :) |
| 19:02.37 | GeneralAntilles | Well, the Pre is Sprint and CDMA |
| 19:02.48 | GeneralAntilles | The OmniaHD is TouchWiz and probably unaffordable |
| 19:03.13 | ShadowJK | omniahd? is that an upgrade to plain omnia? |
| 19:03.32 | ShadowJK | vaguely recalls omnia had a huge ad campaign |
| 19:03.39 | GeneralAntilles | S60 5th with a Cortex A8 |
| 19:03.42 | GeneralAntilles | i8910 |
| 19:03.45 | ShadowJK | well, huge in the sense that it was able to be visible to me, which is pretty damn ahrd |
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| 19:15.21 | Pavlov | yeah the omnia hd is a lot nicer than the omnia |
| 19:20.15 | GeneralAntilles | Isn't the Omnia WinMob? |
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| 19:23.41 | VDVsx | GeneralAntilles, omnia is WinMob, the hd version is S60 ? |
| 19:23.53 | GeneralAntilles | VDVsx, yeah, I believe so. |
| 19:24.02 | VDVsx | ohh |
| 19:24.10 | GeneralAntilles | http://www.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/samsung_acme_i8910_1-480x360.jpg |
| 19:24.44 | GeneralAntilles | It looks like a really nice phone, but I know I wont be able to afford it unlocked and it really is starting to infringe on tablet territory. |
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| 19:27.24 | VDVsx | ah ok, didn't notice this change: "We've received official word from Samsung that the S60-based superphone will be "selectively" renamed to "i8910 HD" in some countries " |
| 19:29.30 | VDVsx | GeneralAntilles, still searching for a new phone ? |
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| 19:30.33 | wiza | I'm currently sticking with e90, I'm mostly happy with it |
| 19:30.43 | wiza | slideout qwerty linux phone would be great, none exists :( |
| 19:32.01 | VDVsx | I have a 6110 nav, but I only use the basic phones features :) |
| 19:32.54 | ShadowJK | I thought it was amusing that the openmoko ceo said freerunner misses calls but it's fine for making outgoing, that always works |
| 19:33.24 | ShadowJK | when on the same day I couldn't make outgoing call with my Nokia phone until I drove outside 3G coverage :P |
| 19:33.38 | VDVsx | lol |
| 19:34.18 | GeneralAntilles | VDVsx, sort of. |
| 19:34.27 | VDVsx | also have a 5800 xm, but only use it for his master research :) |
| 19:34.28 | GeneralAntilles | I may wait for a tablet announcement at this point, though. |
| 19:35.34 | ShadowJK | oh stranger still, it did packet data just fine |
| 19:36.10 | ShadowJK | but I didn't have my voip details setup on it :( |
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| 20:53.47 | Stskeeps | yawns |
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| 21:16.32 | lcuk | VDVsx, you around? |
| 21:17.01 | VDVsx | lcuk, yup |
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| 23:01.05 | lcuk | qwerty12_N800, where abouts in the fremantle alpha are the icons? |
| 23:01.27 | GeneralAntilles | Same place as Diablo |
| 23:01.29 | qwerty12_N800 | /usr/share/icons? |
| 23:01.38 | GeneralAntilles | There's also a package puttering about in the repo. |
| 23:02.15 | GeneralAntilles | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/fremantle/non-free/o/osso-icons/ |
| 23:02.19 | lcuk | im lost in a silly folder tree: |
| 23:02.24 | lcuk | like this /scratchbox/device_tools/gdb-6.8/ |
| 23:02.32 | qwerty12_N800 | ah, |
| 23:02.53 | lcuk | thanks though, thats prob easier |
| 23:03.14 | lcuk | is that basically all the icons used in the entire theme and stuff? |
| 23:03.15 | qwerty12_N800 | /scratchbox/users/$USER/targets/FREMANTLE_X86/usr/share/icons |
| 23:03.46 | qwerty12_N800 | theme specific gfx are inside the theme pkg |
| 23:04.24 | lcuk | ill just copy of the whole icons folder for now |
| 23:04.46 | lcuk | thanks :D im just having a play with some of the ui "real" ui bits for the config dialogs |
| 23:06.15 | mikkov_ | qwerty12: midori is not installable because of missing libidn11 |
| 23:06.30 | lcuk | GeneralAntilles, ive been having some fun the last couple of weeks with this lot, ive just made this big thing: http://liqbase.net/holymoly.png |
| 23:07.26 | GeneralAntilles | lol |
| 23:07.57 | lcuk | http://liqbase.net/fish_800_480.jpg im thinking of having a new background |
| 23:08.05 | qwerty12_N800 | mikkov_: bollocks >.<, I'd thought I'd promoted the required deps. (I can't remember specifying libidn as a Build-Dep anywhere...). Thanks for the heads up, I'll sort it in the morning :) |
| 23:11.03 | lcuk | has any application for maemo been written to automatically post into an itt thread? |
| 23:11.15 | mikkov_ | just noticed that crawl is missing a library too... |
| 23:12.10 | ds3 | lcuk: spammer bot that can go anywhere? |
| 23:12.20 | qwerty12_N800 | lcuk, please, itT already has enough spam problems as it is ;) |
| 23:12.29 | lcuk | ds3, thinking of the "show off your desktop" thread |
| 23:13.01 | lcuk | liqbase can already upload things to my server, im just pondering making it upload things to itt ;) |
| 23:22.28 | GeneralAntilles | lcuk, sure, but we'll have to dock you 500 karma points. :P |
| 23:23.17 | lcuk | thats ok, my Thanksbot will soon make up for that :P |
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