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| 01:53.51 | z4chh | i submitted my gsoc proposal :) |
| 01:54.57 | Lanza | cool, what project do you want to work on ? |
| 01:57.44 | b-man | z4chh: awsome :) |
| 01:57.49 | b-man | resumes compiling |
| 01:58.00 | z4chh | Lanza, liqbase |
| 01:58.34 | b-man | :) |
| 01:59.46 | trollasaurus | Is the source for "Marbles" available somewhere ? |
| 01:59.53 | trollasaurus | I love that game, but can't find it anywhere :-P |
| 02:00.06 | Lanza | @z4chh: looks cool, best of luck |
| 02:01.07 | z4chh | thanks Lanza :D |
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| 02:48.04 | skibur_ | anybody know how to slow down flite speech rate? |
| 02:48.57 | RST38h | drug her! |
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| 02:54.21 | benson_ | RST38h: her?! |
| 02:54.38 | RST38h | benson: well, I am assuming he is using a female voice in flite |
| 02:54.52 | benson_ | flite has one voice compiled in. |
| 02:54.55 | RST38h | BTW, anyone knows why would FF3 be constantly writing to disk on XP? |
| 02:55.03 | benson_ | And it's *not* female. |
| 02:55.04 | RST38h | never really used flite |
| 02:55.14 | benson_ | (Not male, either, though.) |
| 02:55.23 | RST38h | ok, drug him or it or whatever was compiled in |
| 02:55.54 | benson | skibur_: you can pipe it through sox... |
| 02:56.08 | skibur_ | ? |
| 02:56.10 | skibur_ | sox? |
| 02:56.16 | benson | looks for some lame scripts he had to do that job... |
| 02:57.29 | skibur_ | checking... |
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| 02:58.15 | benson | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=136405 |
| 02:59.18 | benson | It's pretty old, I haven't messed with it since Diablo, at least. |
| 02:59.59 | benson | But the same concept should still be good, just have to refind all the pieces. |
| 03:02.26 | benson | skibur_: forget sox, looks like I was only using that to pan it to one channel and crank the volume. |
| 03:02.49 | benson | esdcat is all you need to change the speed/pitch. |
| 03:03.33 | skibur_ | o ok |
| 03:03.52 | skibur_ | thanks |
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| 06:43.51 | sidnei | hello there, anyone around to help me with a bootmenu issue? no matter what i do my n810 always boots straight into maemo (following the jaunty 2.1 on n810 instructions) |
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| 07:26.18 | Jaffa | sidnei: held down the menu button whilst powering up? |
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| 07:35.43 | Stskeeps | morning |
| 07:40.10 | Jaffa | lo Stske |
| 07:40.13 | Jaffa | lo Stskeeps |
| 07:41.09 | Stskeeps | hopes the fever disappears today so he can work on stuff. |
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| 07:48.12 | timeless_mbp | Stskeeps: ping |
| 07:48.26 | timeless_mbp | i'm trying to build libc and got errors from the tests i guess |
| 07:50.10 | Stskeeps | timeless_mbp: bit out of my league - libc is a can of worms to work with |
| 07:50.26 | timeless_mbp | but do you build it? |
| 07:50.31 | timeless_mbp | or do you just steal upstreams? |
| 07:50.44 | Stskeeps | we steal upstream currently |
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| 07:51.10 | Stskeeps | (if we don't explicitly replace something using our repo, it uses ubuntu's) |
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| 08:08.05 | timeless_mbp | hey, could someone familiar w/ dpkg-buildpackage tell me how to skip running tests for a package? :) |
| 08:08.20 | qwerty12 | What package? |
| 08:09.09 | timeless_mbp | glibc :) |
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| 08:13.37 | qwerty12 | Tried changing RUN_TESTSUITE? |
| 08:15.36 | timeless_mbp | no, i don't speak dpkg* and don't really want to learn :) |
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| 08:51.32 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: http://zenvoid.org/tmp/crappy-hildonize.c |
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| 08:55.17 | b0unc3 | good morning |
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| 09:03.51 | Myrtti | moin |
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| 10:05.59 | atv | pleas help regarding GSOC |
| 10:06.55 | timeless_mbp | would hope GSOC people would be willing to write in complete sentences with proper spelling |
| 10:07.19 | timeless_mbp | i.e. "please expend some effort to justify an equivalent exchange of effort" |
| 10:08.16 | GeneralAntilles | So demanding. |
| 10:08.59 | timeless_mbp | gan: you should see all the other things i'm doing now |
| 10:09.05 | atv | sorry for that but I was looking for some who can guide me selecting GSOC project proposed by maemo |
| 10:09.21 | timeless_mbp | see, that wasn't so hard |
| 10:09.41 | aquatix | someone needs an anti-cynical pill ;) |
| 10:09.48 | GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, sitting like an emperor in front of your shinny new laptop demanding complete sentences from everyone around you? :D |
| 10:09.50 | aquatix | pats timeless_mbp |
| 10:10.03 | timeless_mbp | it is nice and shiny, yes |
| 10:10.05 | timeless_mbp | but so much work |
| 10:10.22 | aquatix | needs to polish his laptop |
| 10:10.22 | timeless_mbp | i had to install dozens of apps, setup vbox, and vms, rebuild mer, try to rebuild glibc |
| 10:10.27 | aquatix | damn those glossy casings |
| 10:10.28 | timeless_mbp | try to file bugs against vbox |
| 10:10.47 | aquatix | timeless_mbp: liking your macbook? |
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| 10:10.57 | GeneralAntilles | I need to get suspend working on mine. >:( |
| 10:11.07 | timeless_mbp | aquatix: yes |
| 10:11.14 | aquatix | has suspend working out of the box on ubuntu |
| 10:11.26 | timeless_mbp | it feels great, and i'm learning to love the single touchpad area |
| 10:11.35 | aquatix | :) |
| 10:11.38 | timeless_mbp | also loves the full screen zoom feature |
| 10:12.05 | timeless_mbp | sighs |
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| 10:13.58 | atv | can somebody help me with project ideas ? I have experience in working with bluetooth programming . I found a project titled "implement Bluetooth Speaker Support" . i am interested in participating in this. may I know who is hte mentor for this project? |
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| 10:15.26 | GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, it was working, but now it's not. |
| 10:15.37 | GeneralAntilles | So far, my experience with Ubuntu hasn't been stellar. |
| 10:15.48 | timeless_mbp | oh, i've broken ubuntu a couple of times |
| 10:15.56 | timeless_mbp | and had various other unhappy experiences with it |
| 10:16.05 | timeless_mbp | it vaguely works until you try to use it |
| 10:16.08 | timeless_mbp | then it falls apart |
| 10:16.25 | GeneralAntilles | I was about 30 seconds away from installing OS X on this thing |
| 10:16.29 | timeless_mbp | remembers using Ubuntu and Bug buddy at a SciFi conference |
| 10:16.29 | GeneralAntilles | then it sort of started working |
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| 10:16.35 | GeneralAntilles | now resume doesn't work. |
| 10:17.01 | timeless_mbp | I'd suggest installing OS X w/ 2 partitions 30gb for the OS and the rest as a second partition |
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| 10:17.09 | GeneralAntilles | 8GB SSD. ;) |
| 10:17.17 | timeless_mbp | eww |
| 10:17.24 | timeless_mbp | um |
| 10:17.24 | GeneralAntilles | Meh, it was cheap. |
| 10:17.33 | GeneralAntilles | I have a G5 for bigiron work. |
| 10:17.44 | timeless_mbp | well, if you install osx, be sure to use "custom" and skip the lang packs and printer drivers :) |
| 10:18.00 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, I know how to make it small. ;) |
| 10:18.09 | timeless_mbp | w/ 8gb, you can't really build much, so that rules out lots of things |
| 10:18.15 | GeneralAntilles | OS X is the one thing I can consistently bend to my will. |
| 10:18.16 | timeless_mbp | it also rules out virtualizing |
| 10:18.28 | timeless_mbp | do you usually have net access? |
| 10:18.40 | timeless_mbp | btw, can you walk me through setting up BT DUN w/ my Nokia phone? :) |
| 10:18.46 | timeless_mbp | <oh the irony, yes i know> |
| 10:18.52 | GeneralAntilles | On Leopard? |
| 10:19.10 | timeless_mbp | (how many nokia employees does it take to setup BT DUN to a Nokia phone? I dunno, but so far it's 2 and counting) |
| 10:19.12 | GeneralAntilles | It's almost as easy as on Maemo on Leopard. |
| 10:19.12 | timeless_mbp | yes |
| 10:19.27 | timeless_mbp | MBP, 10.5.6 |
| 10:19.33 | X-Fade | lbt: Can't you just add git to your existing project? |
| 10:19.39 | atv | hi friends. I am panning to participate in GSOC 09 . Can anybody help me regarding project "setting up bluetooth audio speaker". this project is listed in ideas list? |
| 10:19.48 | GeneralAntilles | Pair it and plug in the appropriate in and fou should be good to go. |
| 10:20.05 | timeless_mbp | atv: : i think you want jhe |
| 10:20.34 | timeless_mbp | well, i paired it w/ my phone |
| 10:20.47 | timeless_mbp | but figuring out the appropriate info... |
| 10:20.51 | atv | who is the mentor for this project? |
| 10:20.58 | lbt | X-Fade: would love to :) Ferenc says no |
| 10:20.58 | lbt | would be happy to delete and recreate... |
| 10:20.58 | lbt | or play other games to help? |
| 10:20.59 | lbt | the svn in shopper is only used for www |
| 10:21.14 | X-Fade | lbt: Hmm indeed.. |
| 10:21.16 | lbt | the tracker has a few bugs and patches which it would be nice to move accross... |
| 10:21.23 | X-Fade | lbt: Blame ferenc ;) |
| 10:21.33 | X-Fade | lbt: I'll accept the project.. |
| 10:21.33 | lbt | heh - it's in beta |
| 10:21.34 | timeless_mbp | atv: anyway, jhe is the right person to poke |
| 10:21.39 | lbt | I'm just happy to have git |
| 10:21.40 | timeless_mbp | he's 1hr idle |
| 10:21.50 | timeless_mbp | if he isn't the right person, he can point you to someone |
| 10:22.03 | timeless_mbp | well, it seemed like i needed to create a BT Serial Port to make the network thing happy |
| 10:22.50 | timeless_mbp | and now all it does is show 'connecting' and for a brief instant use BT |
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| 10:27.57 | GeneralAntilles | Operator settings are probably wrong |
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| 10:36.25 | GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, what provider? |
| 10:37.20 | timeless_mbp | Elisa [FI] |
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| 10:40.20 | GeneralAntilles | APN should be "Elisa internet" |
| 10:40.34 | GeneralAntilles | Potentially optional username/pass is 3g/3g. |
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| 10:51.24 | sp3000 | those were blank in the tablet's settings |
| 10:51.33 | sp3000 | the u/p that is |
| 10:51.51 | GeneralAntilles | sp3000, google seems to think they may be optional. |
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| 10:59.02 | timeless_mbp | is there a phone number? |
| 10:59.17 | timeless_mbp | No description. Press the Edit button below to add it. |
| 10:59.22 | timeless_mbp | eep |
| 10:59.25 | timeless_mbp | kicks something |
| 10:59.34 | timeless_mbp | Internet Connect |
| 10:59.39 | timeless_mbp | Could not open communications device |
| 10:59.52 | timeless_mbp | (or something like that, os x didn't copy the text from the dialog) |
| 11:00.12 | GeneralAntilles | Shouldn't be a phone number. |
| 11:00.37 | Stskeeps | *99#? :P |
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| 11:00.42 | Stskeeps | or whatever it was |
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| 11:02.06 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: nice. Why does zenvoid need the g_object_new override (it doesn't appear to do anything on first glance) |
| 11:02.23 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: But that's exactly how I imagined it. I've also got some code around which might be able to do auto-menuification |
| 11:03.10 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: no clue, but he did say it was a crappy way :) |
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| 11:10.10 | timeless_mbp | it still gives "Could not open communications device" |
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| 11:11.38 | timeless_mbp | well, something like that, i still can't copy the errror |
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| 11:28.29 | rmt_ | waves. |
| 11:28.33 | Stskeeps | wello |
| 11:28.38 | rmt_ | How's it going? |
| 11:28.46 | Stskeeps | sick like hell and need to take my dishes. :P |
| 11:28.54 | rmt_ | is in Lucerne at the moment.. very pretty place. |
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| 11:33.40 | GeneralAntilles | Stskeeps, take' em where? |
| 11:33.41 | GeneralAntilles | The park? |
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| 11:34.38 | svu_ | ping alterego |
| 11:35.02 | alterego | pong |
| 11:35.09 | alterego | Smelly |
| 11:35.32 | alterego | svu_? |
| 11:35.35 | svu_ | alterego, are you the person who did the ruby port? |
| 11:35.38 | GeneralAntilles | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27879&highlight=stone |
| 11:35.53 | alterego | svu_: indeed. |
| 11:35.57 | svu_ | (yes, that was my question) |
| 11:36.12 | svu_ | alterego, do you have plans to move ruby to extras? |
| 11:36.18 | svu_ | can I be of any help? |
| 11:36.34 | alterego | Yes, I have the account set up. |
| 11:36.43 | alterego | I've just been really stretched for time :/ |
| 11:37.12 | svu_ | just yesterday I've tried uploading my little ruby app, and of course I could not - because of missing ruby |
| 11:37.19 | alterego | Yeah |
| 11:37.40 | alterego | If I promise to do it on Sunday will that make you happy? :) |
| 11:37.56 | svu_ | alterego, I would be really happy and grateful, thank a bunch! |
| 11:38.15 | svu_ | alterego, the second question about ruby-hildon sources. are they available anywhere? |
| 11:38.37 | alterego | Not right now, but I do plan on opening my subversion repository soon. |
| 11:38.49 | alterego | Well, the maemo part of my subversion repository. |
| 11:39.11 | svu_ | Sunday?:) |
| 11:39.24 | alterego | I'll try. |
| 11:39.51 | alterego | Basically, on Sunday I'll probably have enough time to setup extras and do svn, but I was hoping to finish my hildon-desktop applet loader. |
| 11:40.00 | alterego | That might have to wait for the following weekend in that case. |
| 11:40.17 | alterego | Or I could stop getting pissed every night :S I'm so hung over right now it's criminal. |
| 11:40.17 | svu_ | thanks a lot! I'd really celebrate that event |
| 11:40.32 | svu_ | of course, having ruby in extras is more important to me |
| 11:40.38 | GeneralAntilles | Too bad we can't talk Nokia into setting up a hacking slush fund. ;) |
| 11:40.44 | svu_ | alterego, also, would you put ruby-pkg-tools as well? |
| 11:40.46 | alterego | :) |
| 11:40.55 | alterego | What's ruby-pkg-tools? |
| 11:41.04 | svu_ | otherwise ruby based debs are difficult to build |
| 11:41.09 | alterego | Ah, okay. |
| 11:41.16 | alterego | Is that a debian thing? |
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| 11:41.35 | svu_ | I'd say so. At least I used it to build .deb on ubuntu |
| 11:42.04 | alterego | Cool, well that should be easily done. |
| 11:42.08 | alterego | I'll make a note of it. |
| 11:42.20 | alterego | And it's a very good idea ;) |
| 11:42.52 | alterego | I wish I'd seen that before I started on ruby-maemo ;) |
| 11:42.54 | svu_ | hope so. we have to promote ruby on maemo, I guess:) |
| 11:43.32 | svu_ | well, glad that I could give you some useful info:) |
| 11:43.38 | alterego | I was toying with the idea of doing a loader for faster load times, but the new device should increase that aspect so considerably that it makes the effort kind of pointless. |
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| 11:44.18 | svu_ | anyway, for the start it would be great to have something working, somehow |
| 11:44.27 | svu_ | then, if necessary, things can be optimized |
| 11:44.42 | alterego | Yeah. |
| 11:45.42 | alterego | I'd also like to get ruby-gems working properly. It's so damn slow it's ridiculous. I was thinking maybe setting up my own gem repo as we can't build the extensions on device it makes sense just having pure ruby extensions available. Which should make gem run faster with a smaller catalogue. |
| 11:46.21 | svu_ | yes, that might be a good idea |
| 11:46.53 | alterego | I've been writing some insane ruby code at work. I'm having the best time of my life :) |
| 11:47.10 | svu_ | but anyway, if most of the core packages are just .debs, people will be able to do simple things without going gems |
| 11:47.17 | alterego | Yeah |
| 11:47.22 | svu_ | nearly envious :) |
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| 11:48.03 | svu_ | if you need any help/testing/... you can find me around here or on the forum |
| 11:48.21 | alterego | Great, |
| 11:48.48 | svu_ | thanks for everything:) talk to you later |
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| 13:11.50 | GeneralAntilles | Who writes a blog post about a GUI and doesn't include any screenshots? :( |
| 13:14.49 | aquatix | GeneralAntilles: a lazy writer |
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| 13:17.30 | ShadowJK | timeless, I have *99***1# as phone number when connecting through Nokia |
| 13:18.31 | ShadowJK | also an init string of AT+cgdcont=1,"IP","APN HERE" |
| 13:18.47 | ShadowJK | I suspect the internet APN of elisa is "internet", but I'm not sure |
| 13:19.47 | sp3000 | ShadowJK: yeah the string "internet" was in one of the fields for the autoconfigured elisa thing on the tablet |
| 13:20.08 | sp3000 | we tried with that in the apn |
| 13:21.47 | ShadowJK | It also helps to restart/reboot all involved bluetooth devices :) |
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| 13:22.27 | ShadowJK | Though the N810 thankfully has a CSR bluetooth radio, which is relatively bug free |
| 13:23.12 | ShadowJK | My E70's TI radio often wants a reboot cycle before it will agree to function though :) |
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| 13:24.46 | brankinhu | how can I know if there is a module for maemo, for example... I connected a host usb, and I want to get the module that host usb. |
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| 13:25.38 | ShadowJK | What do you connect? |
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| 13:26.11 | brankinhu | ShadowJK, I connected a Micaz... do you know? |
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| 13:27.01 | ShadowJK | no |
| 13:27.05 | ShadowJK | what driver would it use? |
| 13:27.50 | brankinhu | ftdi_si - is a usb host driver |
| 13:28.12 | brankinhu | I detected this driver on debian and ubuntu |
| 13:28.53 | ShadowJK | doesn't seem to be included in maemo by default |
| 13:31.12 | brankinhu | I have the source code of this driver... i think that I have to create a module for him, what you think? |
| 13:31.26 | disco_stu | ey.. why im getting error when installing transparency? |
| 13:32.05 | ShadowJK | brankinhu, yes |
| 13:32.13 | ShadowJK | don't ask me how though :) |
| 13:33.09 | brankinhu | ShadowJK, eheheh... ok! I'll try. thanks |
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| 14:18.43 | lopz | hola |
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| 14:46.05 | Stskeeps | i officially don't understand GTK themeing(sp) |
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| 14:56.42 | zeenix | kulve: yo |
| 14:56.54 | zeenix | kulve: mafw repos are no longer empty :) |
| 14:57.39 | zeenix | kulve: also one student has submitted the proposal to work on gvfs gupnp backend to GSoC, lets hope he gets approved |
| 14:58.36 | sidnei | hello there, anyone around to help me with a bootmenu issue? no matter what i do my n810 always boots straight into maemo (following the jaunty 2.1 on n810 instructions) |
| 14:59.27 | Stskeeps | did you do the "Install bootmenu" step? :P |
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| 15:00.54 | Stskeeps | http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Documentation/Installation#N8x0_Install , follow the steps from Utilities -> Install bootmenu to "where you can select the partition you want to boot" |
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| 15:13.25 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: that page doesn't seem to be linked to from the "Downloads" page BTW |
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| 15:15.00 | sidnei | Stskeeps: well, i ran refresh_bootmenu.d, isn't that the same? |
| 15:15.11 | Stskeeps | sidnei: nop |
| 15:15.20 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: yeah, coming in the new release page |
| 15:15.33 | Stskeeps | sidnei: refresh is just updating the bootmenu configuration |
| 15:16.22 | sidnei | Stskeeps: got it. doing it now. |
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| 15:17.15 | Stskeeps | 'lo qwerty12 |
| 15:17.22 | qwerty12 | hi Stskeeps |
| 15:17.42 | sidnei | Stskeeps: cool! that worked. how stupid i fell :) |
| 15:18.14 | Stskeeps | how's it going, qwerty12? |
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| 15:18.47 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, lol, all good :). I'm meant to be at an after school lesson but thought fuck it :P |
| 15:19.05 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, still feeling ill? :( |
| 15:19.59 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: yeah, taking today off, but sitting and trying to get the theme stuff right now |
| 15:20.08 | Stskeeps | and doing some things around the house |
| 15:20.42 | qwerty12 | :) |
| 15:22.28 | sidnei | uhm, seems like it got stuck at about 20% on the splash screen |
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| 15:24.56 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: happen to know what it is that boottime.kmap.gz that b-man does in ubuntu is? |
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| 15:25.39 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, no idea, I've never booted Ubuntu on my tablet |
| 15:25.49 | Stskeeps | k |
| 15:26.03 | Stskeeps | meiz claims it makes things go a lot faster |
| 15:26.06 | Stskeeps | as in, boot time wise |
| 15:27.51 | sidnei | well, .kmap is a keymap isnt it? |
| 15:28.13 | sidnei | i can't see how that would make a boot faster, unless it's about the size (ie, it's a stripped down kmap to save on memory) |
| 15:28.36 | Stskeeps | well maybe it doesn't have to probe and all that stuff |
| 15:29.14 | sidnei | indeed |
| 15:29.42 | sidnei | oh, look, it's booting now! i had commented out 'ITEM_LINUXRC' due to misleading advice |
| 15:29.53 | Stskeeps | ah |
| 15:30.02 | Stskeeps | be aware it might actually die now |
| 15:30.05 | Stskeeps | with "incompatible boot menu" |
| 15:30.42 | sidnei | the progress bar on the splash menu went all the way to like 98% then it is stuck there now |
| 15:30.53 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, really can't see how boottime.kmap would make it boot faster... |
| 15:30.59 | sidnei | i think i saw someone reporting that |
| 15:31.24 | Stskeeps | sidnei: if you did without ITEM_LINUXRC at first, your installation is screwed |
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| 15:31.55 | sidnei | Stskeeps: nice. so i have to wipe the partition clean and start again? |
| 15:31.58 | Stskeeps | sidnei: aye |
| 15:32.49 | timelE61i | Sts: so... Do you have any gripes about vbox? |
| 15:32.52 | sidnei | Stskeeps: sure there's no way around that? sounds very extreme :) |
| 15:33.30 | timelE61i | Also... Can you check to see if your vmdk is really properly partitioned ? :) |
| 15:34.22 | timelE61i | Because when i tried to grow it, i was told the partition was bigger than the drive :) |
| 15:34.28 | Stskeeps | timelE61i: hmm. |
| 15:35.12 | Stskeeps | timelE61i: http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/vmdk-maker , script i use |
| 15:35.38 | timelE61i | No time today :) |
| 15:35.39 | Stskeeps | k |
| 15:36.07 | Stskeeps | timelE61i: so far i like vbox more than vmware really |
| 15:36.39 | Stskeeps | when i was able to get my ex gf to use vbox on her mac without big gripes, they did something right |
| 15:37.04 | Stskeeps | sidnei: recreating /var/run with right permissions but honestly, restart :P |
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| 15:37.33 | sidnei | Stskeeps: ok, doing it already. |
| 15:37.41 | GeneralAntilles | tries to figure out how to unsubscribe from the GSoC mentor's list. |
| 15:38.02 | Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: you already lost hope in humanity? :P |
| 15:38.06 | timelE61i | Gan: Heh |
| 15:38.14 | GeneralAntilles | Stskeeps, WTF is wrong with these people? |
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| 15:38.53 | Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: you should see the e-mails university professors get from indian universities about internships.. |
| 15:39.09 | kulve | zeenix: yay for gvfs backend :) |
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| 15:39.40 | Stskeeps | "harmattan compatibility" |
| 15:39.44 | Stskeeps | dear god, they started already |
| 15:40.06 | GeneralAntilles | Harmattan is going to run on everybody's hardware but Stskeeps'. |
| 15:40.39 | kulve | zeenix: I noticed that you've also implemented some transcoding stuff |
| 15:40.44 | Stskeeps | but yay, gtk 2.14 |
| 15:41.00 | GeneralAntilles | Everything from your '96 Caprice to your Wii. |
| 15:41.24 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: url? |
| 15:41.47 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: https://stage.maemo.org/viewcvs.cgi/projects/haf/branches/gtk%2B/upgrade-gtk-2-14/?root=maemo , and the harmattan was just a sh script stuff in dbus, nothing interesting |
| 15:42.15 | Jaffa | fairy nuff |
| 15:42.28 | Stskeeps | will be joyous over 2.14. |
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| 15:43.36 | Stskeeps | ah. of course jaunty moved on to 2.16 |
| 15:43.38 | Stskeeps | lovely. |
| 15:43.43 | GeneralAntilles | I see ukki has some sort of vendetta against Extras. |
| 15:44.20 | Stskeeps | isn't it a requirement to be a community member, to have some kind of vendetta against something? :P |
| 15:44.24 | qwerty12 | GeneralAntilles, oh, it's not that, he really did want to upload his programs to Extras but I think he got pissed off when he got skanked twice |
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| 15:45.26 | GeneralAntilles | qwerty12, thus the vendetta, evidently. |
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| 15:47.30 | qwerty12 | Fair enough, I just think he doesn't hate Extras but doesn't see it as the end all and be all |
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| 15:48.27 | Stskeeps | really looks forward to seeing how OBS will work. |
| 15:49.36 | Jaffa | qwerty12: how did he get "skanked" (verb confusion => EPARSEERROR) |
| 15:50.22 | GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, X-Fade took a shiv to him. |
| 15:50.37 | qwerty12 | "To be ripped off, or be in a situation resulting in a negative outcome." - alterego told ukki twice that ruby would be in Extras |
| 15:50.43 | qwerty12 | skanked, not shanked ;) |
| 15:51.16 | GeneralAntilles | We all know X-Fade's a bit of a skank. ;) |
| 15:51.21 | qwerty12 | Lol |
| 15:51.34 | X-Fade | sssssssh ;) |
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| 15:52.15 | GeneralAntilles | qwerty12, that seems to have very little to do with Extras. |
| 15:52.34 | GeneralAntilles | and really only serves to solidify the "people should put their stuff in Extras" point. |
| 15:52.48 | GeneralAntilles | (Ubuntu power management sucks) |
| 15:53.40 | qwerty12 | GeneralAntilles, he couldn't upload his programs without ruby being there - well, he could, but 98% of people wouldn't be able to install it. With his own repo (and I don't agree with own repos personally), he could upload the binary packages alterego had put out |
| 15:54.15 | GeneralAntilles | Yes, a good copy of Ruby in Extras is why everybody should be uploading their stuff to Extras. ;) |
| 15:54.22 | zeenix | kulve: what do you mean 'also'? :) |
| 15:55.04 | zeenix | kulve: do you mean you did the same/similar or that besides those things i did transcoding? |
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| 15:55.29 | kulve | zeenix: yeah, besides those things.. |
| 15:55.39 | kulve | bbl |
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| 15:56.32 | zeenix | kulve: yeah, it wasn't that hard given the generic design i have in rygel for proxying uris and gst elements |
| 15:56.47 | GeneralAntilles | http://www.woot.com/ |
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| 15:57.31 | Atrus6 | Yay Woot |
| 15:59.01 | Atrus6 | Wait...It says it is both 8GB and 4 GB |
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| 15:59.14 | GeneralAntilles | 8GB Class 4 |
| 15:59.24 | GeneralAntilles | Sold out anyway |
| 15:59.28 | Atrus6 | But in the features, it says 4GB |
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| 16:01.16 | Atrus6 | Oh, it matters not, I have enough cards to lose anyways |
| 16:02.10 | timeless_mbp | GeneralAntilles: http://www.webwizardry.net/~timeless/OOo-dual-menus.png |
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| 16:03.22 | GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, doesn't want to load. |
| 16:03.44 | timeless_mbp | really? it's a kinda big png, but it should load.... |
| 16:04.29 | GeneralAntilles | Ah, that'd explain it. 2.3MB at 30KB/sec |
| 16:04.53 | timeless_mbp | oh brother |
| 16:04.55 | timeless_mbp | = stupid |
| 16:05.13 | timeless_mbp | is copying an iTunes library into a non special path |
| 16:05.20 | qwerty12 | Corsac, shame on you for compat = 7 =in epdfview :P |
| 16:05.56 | GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, hehe, that's special. |
| 16:06.03 | GeneralAntilles | Boring hard drive name. :P |
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| 16:08.04 | timeless_mbp | well, there was supposed to be one named W7 |
| 16:08.07 | GeneralAntilles | timeless_mbp, cmd-shft-3 dumps jgpes, by the way. |
| 16:08.18 | timeless_mbp | really? |
| 16:08.21 | GeneralAntilles | er, jpegs |
| 16:08.22 | timeless_mbp | traditionally it dumped PDFs |
| 16:08.30 | GeneralAntilles | New since Tiger, I think. |
| 16:08.37 | timeless_mbp | but then i decided to use ZFS and VBox |
| 16:08.46 | timeless_mbp | so w7 is now just a file somewhere |
| 16:09.04 | timeless_mbp | i was having trouble getting cmd strokes to work, so i used "grab" and its timer feature |
| 16:09.13 | timeless_mbp | actually, it looks like Firefox has the same behavior |
| 16:09.50 | GeneralAntilles | It's global |
| 16:09.54 | timeless_mbp | so... after playing around further |
| 16:09.59 | timeless_mbp | this is actually a feature, not a bug |
| 16:10.07 | timeless_mbp | it's just strange until you get used to it |
| 16:10.18 | GeneralAntilles | I don't even click help menus |
| 16:10.42 | timeless_mbp | ok, so OOo *is* buggy |
| 16:10.48 | timeless_mbp | but only for my original bug |
| 16:10.55 | timeless_mbp | in a normal help search, cmd-a works (select all) |
| 16:10.59 | timeless_mbp | in OOo's help, it doesn't. |
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| 16:26.32 | Plastun | hi2all |
| 16:26.40 | thopiekar | hi Plastun |
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| 16:27.48 | Plastun | is there anybody rus? |
| 16:28.14 | thopiekar | is just learning rus at school :P |
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| 16:29.12 | igagis | Plastun, I'm from russia |
| 16:29.34 | Plastun | ohm! |
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| 16:31.25 | Plastun | what principles maemo uses when choose project for gsoc? |
| 16:31.46 | Plastun | count of students applications? or some else? |
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| 16:33.38 | Atrus6 | Yeah, that would be helpful, since I'm writing my proposal now ^^ |
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| 16:34.01 | Stskeeps | no clue, my hope would be prioritizing based on importance to the community based on number of students allocated to project |
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| 16:40.27 | Stskeeps | lo meiz |
| 16:41.10 | Stskeeps | Meizirkki: you say boottime.kmap.gz adds something, could you verify if that happens for mer too? |
| 16:42.27 | Meizirkki | ?? |
| 16:42.48 | Stskeeps | you said the other evening that the kmap.gz takes a slice off the boot time in ubuntu? |
| 16:42.56 | Meizirkki | i only said it takes a long time when Mer sets up the keymap at early boot |
| 16:43.02 | Stskeeps | hmm, ok |
| 16:43.10 | Stskeeps | so it helps with the kmap.gz? |
| 16:43.29 | Meizirkki | i don't know, sorry |
| 16:43.40 | Stskeeps | k |
| 16:43.48 | Stskeeps | can you test? looks trivial :) |
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| 16:44.11 | Stskeeps | just drop the ubuntu kmap.gz in, shouldn't matter on the X kb |
| 16:44.38 | Meizirkki | okAY |
| 16:44.49 | Meizirkki | that keymap is in /etc right? |
| 16:46.19 | Stskeeps | hmm, good question |
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| 16:47.11 | Stskeeps | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.17 | Meizirkki | yep |
| 16:47.19 | Meizirkki | thanks |
| 16:47.39 | Meizirkki | can i copy it over from x86 ? |
| 16:47.58 | Meizirkki | to my tablet |
| 16:48.29 | Stskeeps | yea, or just http://internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=254257&postcount=2 |
| 16:48.32 | Stskeeps | the attachment |
| 16:48.44 | Meizirkki | ok |
| 16:49.13 | Stskeeps | i think what might help ubuntu but i believe does actually trash most of the setups in the long run, is the use of insserv |
| 16:49.21 | Stskeeps | and concurrency |
| 16:50.28 | Meizirkki | notices, that b-mans boottime.kmap is a clone of deblet-xmodmap |
| 16:50.56 | Stskeeps | heh, never knew we had a boottime.kmap.gz |
| 16:51.53 | Meizirkki | kmap in mer is a HUGE mess comparing to the xmodmap-clone... |
| 16:52.19 | Stskeeps | there's actually one in /etc/console-setup? |
| 16:52.33 | Meizirkki | yes |
| 16:52.46 | Stskeeps | yeah, i see it now |
| 16:52.50 | Stskeeps | must be console-setup setting it up |
| 16:53.33 | Meizirkki | makes a blank file and gzips it |
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| 16:57.07 | Meizirkki | yay, mer boots now in 40sec! |
| 16:57.10 | Meizirkki | on n810 |
| 16:57.16 | Stskeeps | that's interesting |
| 16:57.31 | Meizirkki | i have blank file as a boottime.knap |
| 16:57.38 | Meizirkki | s/nap/map/ |
| 16:59.04 | Meizirkki | well, it still takes 50 sec before hildon is loaded, but the BSOM (Blue Screen Of Mer) takes about 40 sec |
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| 17:00.52 | Plastun | is anybody think that maemo alarm should be improved? |
| 17:00.59 | Meizirkki | Stskeeps, Even if the keymap file is blank, n 810 hw-keyboard still acts normally in console |
| 17:01.05 | Stskeeps | even with Fn? |
| 17:01.38 | Meizirkki | sec |
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| 17:03.37 | Stskeeps | (i doubt it), but good to know it improves boot |
| 17:03.54 | Meizirkki | Stskeeps, Fn key isn't working in the framebuffer console, but it never worked before, so... |
| 17:04.10 | Stskeeps | yeah |
| 17:04.31 | Meizirkki | Fn is, of course, still working in X |
| 17:06.29 | Stskeeps | applied your trick to the imager, we'll see how big an effect it has on the testing images i guess |
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| 17:06.57 | Meizirkki | ok |
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| 17:26.56 | GeneralAntilles | andre__, fun comments. ;) |
| 17:32.48 | ukki | GeneralAntilles: hehe, you kinda missed my point, i really have nothing against extras, quite the opposite |
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| 17:34.18 | GeneralAntilles | ukki, harsh words on the wiki. |
| 17:40.03 | ukki | true, but there's not much i can do about it |
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| 18:03.18 | lcuk | hi VDVsx \o hows gsoc management going |
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| 18:04.23 | VDVsx | lcuk, hello, fine, I think :P |
| 18:04.44 | lcuk | good good, i started to read and review some of the student proposals |
| 18:04.58 | Atrus6 | Anything good? |
| 18:05.19 | lcuk | the liqbase one catches my eye so far ;) |
| 18:05.34 | lcuk | VDVsx, has lardman got himself involved as a mentor? |
| 18:05.59 | VDVsx | lcuk, no |
| 18:06.16 | lcuk | shame, is it too late for him to get involved, cos barcode needs wrangling |
| 18:06.30 | Atrus6 | Really, that's what I was interested in |
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| 18:06.44 | VDVsx | lcuk, it should be backup mentor, but don't sign in yet |
| 18:06.44 | lcuk | yeah theres a lot of interest in the barcode stuff |
| 18:06.59 | lcuk | it should be ? or he should be? |
| 18:07.12 | Atrus6 | Darn competition |
| 18:07.15 | VDVsx | *he :P |
| 18:08.01 | lcuk | Atrus6, competition? lardman is in the right place to be a mentor for barcode - what with him being the principle admin of the maemo barcode project |
| 18:09.15 | Atrus6 | I thought you meant lots of student interest. Which would mean less of a chance of me getting in. |
| 18:09.32 | VDVsx | lcuk, he talked to me about it, but he was affraid that can have enough time for mentoring, he have some family stuff to do in the summer |
| 18:09.36 | lcuk | theres quite a few student proposals |
| 18:09.45 | lcuk | yeah he does |
| 18:09.52 | lcuk | id forgotten about that |
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| 18:23.18 | Atrus6 | lcuk, what would make a proposal stand out in your eyes? |
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| 18:25.10 | vasily_pupkin | hi! |
| 18:25.16 | vasily_pupkin | anybody use powerlaunch? |
| 18:25.29 | qwerty12 | Only in Mer... |
| 18:26.06 | vasily_pupkin | i try to use it for wmctrl fullscreen |
| 18:26.32 | qwerty12 | And you have wmctrl installed? That part works for me in Mer. |
| 18:26.37 | vasily_pupkin | powerlaunch is quite strange thing.. |
| 18:26.43 | vasily_pupkin | i have it installed |
| 18:26.57 | vasily_pupkin | but i don't understand how can i enable it (= |
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| 18:27.31 | qwerty12 | Press the power button and go to its calendar interface and hit the fullscreen button |
| 18:27.43 | vasily_pupkin | ?? |
| 18:27.45 | vasily_pupkin | calendar? |
| 18:27.56 | vasily_pupkin | i have simple menu, like mce |
| 18:28.09 | qwerty12 | Er, yes: http://powerlaunch.garage.maemo.org/powerlaunch1.png |
| 18:28.27 | vasily_pupkin | hm |
| 18:28.36 | vasily_pupkin | i don't have this |
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| 18:35.24 | vasily_pupkin | qwerty12_N800: does powerlaunch use mce config? |
| 18:44.01 | vasily_pupkin | hm. it's buggy |
| 18:45.41 | RST38h | qwerty: Is PowerLaunch becoming the little bootup OS now? :) |
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| 18:46.27 | vasily_pupkin | lock button don't lock powerbutton |
| 18:49.57 | vasily_pupkin | hm. powerlaunch isn't usable at all |
| 18:50.12 | vasily_pupkin | at least by default |
| 18:50.32 | andre__ | GeneralAntilles: ? |
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| 18:50.42 | andre__ | ah, blog entries. yeah yeah :) |
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| 18:50.45 | GeneralAntilles | andre__, Matan's comment on the blog. |
| 18:50.54 | GeneralAntilles | Big, giant :rolleyes:. ;) |
| 18:50.54 | andre__ | shrug |
| 18:51.16 | GeneralAntilles | Jaffa, wish there were Thanks! buttons on the lists. |
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| 18:54.41 | RST38h | preparing to install Ubuntu |
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| 18:56.57 | konttori_ | does anyone have spotify invitations? |
| 18:59.23 | qwerty12_N800 | RST38h: its complexity have caused some to call it a programming lang. :P |
| 18:59.37 | qwerty12_N800 | s/have/has/ |
| 18:59.46 | andre__ | GeneralAntilles, I can also comment on my blog in that style :-P |
| 19:00.03 | RST38h | qwerty: Someone should make it scriptable in Ruby |
| 19:00.35 | qwerty12_N800 | hehe |
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| 19:04.23 | lcuk | Atrus6, it has to include details about fund transfer using a side channel ;) |
| 19:04.47 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: :) |
| 19:05.09 | vasily_pupkin | anybody know, how to bind own global hotkeys? :] |
| 19:05.48 | Atrus6 | lcuk, I head that Nigeria specializes in things like that, I should do some research ^^ |
| 19:06.28 | lcuk | lol |
| 19:06.52 | suihkulokki | konttori_: spotify is a windows application.. |
| 19:07.04 | konttori_ | not for osx? |
| 19:07.06 | lcuk | Atrus6, as a student be honest with your goals and find a project that you believe in - theres no point in stressing for months over the summer for something you hate |
| 19:07.19 | konttori_ | suihkulokki: it runs under wine in linux |
| 19:07.33 | Stskeeps | there's also despotify |
| 19:07.38 | qwerty12_N800 | suihkulokki: there's a reversed open source client somewhere |
| 19:07.51 | konttori_ | vasily_pupkin: by exiting the x configuration files? |
| 19:07.56 | konttori_ | eh. editing |
| 19:08.03 | konttori_ | types really badly today |
| 19:08.03 | vasily_pupkin | hm |
| 19:08.29 | vasily_pupkin | konttori_: where can i find some examples? |
| 19:10.22 | Atrus6 | lcuk, easy enough I suppose. Not as good as mind control, but, I'll take it ^^ |
| 19:10.23 | konttori_ | sorry, I cannot remember where it is stored in. |
| 19:10.29 | konttori_ | perhaps someone else does. |
| 19:10.41 | lcuk | Atrus6, what have you got in mind? |
| 19:11.05 | lcuk | hiya konttori_ btw \o |
| 19:11.28 | konttori_ | hi |
| 19:12.15 | lcuk | i see the mafw is creeping out, are you changing ukmp to it? |
| 19:15.56 | konttori_ | lcuk: Let's see. To be honest, I would just use tracker directly to locate the content. |
| 19:16.06 | konttori_ | well, local content |
| 19:16.27 | konttori_ | I see MAFWs value in that it abstracts the online content sources under one envelope. |
| 19:16.30 | lcuk | the mafw will use tracker in the mackend wont it? |
| 19:16.39 | konttori_ | I am not terribly convinced that it is good for the local content |
| 19:16.44 | konttori_ | lcuk: it does. |
| 19:17.01 | lcuk | it abstracts the media player so that you have a system wide shared playlist so no matter what app you use its all done together and in harmony |
| 19:17.01 | konttori_ | but, at the same time, it's an unnecessary middleman in many cases |
| 19:17.07 | lcuk | and no one app leads the arms race :) |
| 19:17.10 | konttori_ | and does not expose the full power of tracker to the apps |
| 19:17.19 | lcuk | it doesnt need to does it? |
| 19:17.29 | konttori_ | lcuk: osso-media-server had the same playlist model |
| 19:17.33 | konttori_ | it's not a new one |
| 19:17.47 | konttori_ | (as it happens, I did port ukmp to that, but I haven't published it) |
| 19:17.54 | lcuk | no, but this was advertised as "one player to bind them" |
| 19:18.24 | konttori_ | sure, well, it's ideologically built on the foundation of osso-media-serv. |
| 19:18.35 | konttori_ | anyway, I do applaud the online aspect. |
| 19:18.41 | lcuk | seeing how canola is now out it would be interesting to see how easy it would be to slide in the mafw backend to a nice canola front |
| 19:18.45 | Atrus6 | lcuk, Well, from what I understand, there isn't all that much with the barcode implemented, so my thoughts would be to start simple, and design an app that could read in a barcode from a picture, search for the product, and return usable information. |
| 19:18.46 | lcuk | or a liqbase one :D |
| 19:19.08 | Atrus6 | Similar to the CompareEverywhere |
| 19:19.59 | lcuk | Atrus6, i think part of the barcode specification is to study and implement the barcode using a library format, theres lots of apps which could benefit from barcode analysis |
| 19:20.10 | lcuk | also has barcode entry points ;) |
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| 19:22.44 | lcuk | konttori_, a lot of people are pleased to see it supports mplayer in the background, such a strong history on that app and lots of work towards optimization makes it first choice for lots of stuff |
| 19:22.58 | lcuk | ballsack! |
| 19:23.19 | Atrus6 | lcuk, Well, a key part of my app idea would be retrieving information from the barcode |
| 19:24.06 | lcuk | yeah Atrus6 - thats kinda the point of scannign the barcode in the first palce :P |
| 19:24.17 | lcuk | not much point if you DONT retrieve the info :D |
| 19:24.32 | lcuk | my typing has gone to pot! |
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| 19:25.10 | qwerty12_N800 | Let its memory rest forever in the logs ;) |
| 19:25.21 | Atrus6 | lcuk, I know lol, I was really tempted to put an "obviously" at the end of that statement |
| 19:25.27 | sidnei | not good. i did the whole reinstall of jaunty on my n810 and it still hangs at like 98% during boot |
| 19:25.43 | RST38h | And now for the fun part: Ubuntu installer does not know anything about wifi |
| 19:26.21 | lcuk | Atrus6, theres been lots of discussion about the barcode app over the recent months and ive seen people perk up at all different aspects of it |
| 19:26.57 | qwerty12_N800 | RST38h: Meh, count yourself lucky that, you don't need to use ndiswrapper |
| 19:27.29 | RST38h | would rather sit without networking than use an abomination like that |
| 19:28.27 | Atrus6 | lcuk, so it would be better to focus on making/improving an barcode scanner rather then an okay scanner + app? |
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| 19:30.08 | lcuk | Atrus6, with a good core scanner library in place you can make 100s of apps to use it |
| 19:30.34 | lcuk | each tailored to whats required and made to slot in with existing stuff - but if you make a single decent app you will never make everyone happy |
| 19:31.20 | lcuk | some folks might just need the scanner to tick off pre-existing items on a list |
| 19:31.27 | lcuk | others might want to buy books |
| 19:31.37 | RST38h | http://i.gizmodo.com/5157183/top-gear-america-to-build-70mpg-car-out-of-a-1971-vw-rabbit-for-7000 |
| 19:31.38 | lcuk | some might just want to store the history in a stream |
| 19:31.41 | RST38h | Hehe |
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| 19:34.01 | Atrus6 | lcuk, Okay, that helps. A nice simple, well-doced library seems to be a better path, then a not so well doced but still pretty app ^^ |
| 19:35.17 | sidnei | oh, looks like sys-env-x is not enough, *a* desktop environment is required |
| 19:36.11 | lcuk | Atrus6, you can build you nice pretty app along side the library to prove the concept of the library and to test the different aspects of it |
| 19:36.15 | Stskeeps | sidnei: truth must be said, at least mer is a drop-in installation, no fuss |
| 19:36.19 | Stskeeps | likes his mer images. |
| 19:36.42 | sidnei | Stskeeps: you're too biased :) |
| 19:37.03 | lcuk | no hes not, just wait until hes had more to drink |
| 19:37.07 | Atrus6 | lcuk, but focus on building a good library, which in hindsight is kinda obvious |
| 19:37.22 | Stskeeps | sidnei: maybe, but then again i also have experience :P i had ubuntu running back in summer 2008 and meiz was playing with it way before it |
| 19:37.26 | lcuk | yeah Atrus6 but its something that is easily forgotten when you start an app. |
| 19:37.35 | Stskeeps | last it = before b-man's ubuntu posts |
| 19:37.39 | lcuk | i wish i had started with the library, but i didnt know enough back then |
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| 19:38.10 | sidnei | Stskeeps: i see. so mer is based on ubuntu or on debian or maemo? |
| 19:38.13 | lcuk | didnt even know how to link stuff |
| 19:38.30 | Stskeeps | sidnei: good question, on x86 and armv5te devices, it's ubuntu based |
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| 19:39.40 | Stskeeps | but for the neo freerunner (armv4t) it would be debian based |
| 19:40.11 | RST38h | All righty, the coast is clear, lets grub the ether cable and install! |
| 19:40.15 | sidnei | Stskeeps: nice. more specifically, im looking into testing the landscape-client package from the ubuntu repo, i don't really care if it's jaunty or mer, as long as i can get the the package and it's deps going. |
| 19:40.32 | RST38h | (if I do not return it means that the Ubuntu Installer has fucked up my machine completely) |
| 19:40.50 | Stskeeps | RST38h: good luck! |
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| 19:41.32 | Stskeeps | sidnei: you could probably do that with easy ubuntu though |
| 19:42.32 | sidnei | Stskeeps: "EasyUbuntu works on (X/K)ubuntu and on all the three architectures (x86, AMD64 and PPC)." |
| 19:42.54 | Stskeeps | sidnei: ah, no, easy ubuntu from qole, it's kinda like his easy debian, it's basically a chroot ubuntu |
| 19:43.29 | sidnei | Stskeeps: i see. |
| 19:43.54 | Stskeeps | but not sure if that suits your needs |
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| 19:45.05 | sidnei | Stskeeps: it might not :) this is the last chance im giving to b-man's instructions ;) |
| 19:45.18 | sidnei | Stskeeps: if that doesn't work i guess i will try mer |
| 19:45.29 | Stskeeps | otherwise, give mer a quick try, and prod me if there's something blocking your use |
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| 19:48.08 | RST38h | BUT! I have the old laptop as well! =) |
| 19:48.39 | RST38h | goes to his underground lair |
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| 19:59.30 | lcuk | RST38h, does your underground lair have a nice view and decent wifi coverage? |
| 20:00.43 | RST38h | lcuk: "yes" on the first, "not yet" on the second, due to too many pesky humans around with their wifi aps |
| 20:01.09 | RST38h | lcuk: But that, of course, is gonna improve once I get a hold of 5kg of U235 and a sturdy titanium tube... =) |
| 20:01.10 | lcuk | you need to crank the power up on yours |
| 20:01.40 | lcuk | nahhh those sort of things end badly, you jsut need normal electricity |
| 20:02.23 | lcuk | was hit in the face by a door a few minutes ago and has a big cut on his ribs and a sore forehead :S |
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| 20:03.20 | Atrus6 | ...I see the sore forehead, but the ribs? |
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| 20:04.23 | lcuk | when i fell after smacking into the door and knocking my specs off i fell onto the door catch nobble on the jam and it scraped down - ripped t as well damn |
| 20:04.57 | Atrus6 | Ah. That seems to be the sign of a bad day. |
| 20:05.11 | lcuk | its the end of a very long week :) |
| 20:05.45 | lcuk | Atrus6, http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/27/1752223 |
| 20:06.43 | lcuk | i think i need to sit back this evening and watch movies |
| 20:07.04 | Stskeeps | is considering to watch 'Blindness' |
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| 20:07.44 | lcuk | i started to re-watch babylon 5 (after seeing an advert on virgin tv) |
| 20:07.50 | lcuk | has every episode :) |
| 20:07.58 | Stskeeps | oh fuck, it's hailing outside and i should put stuff in drier |
| 20:08.00 | Stskeeps | so lovely. |
| 20:08.16 | lcuk | that weather is meant to be heading our way as well |
| 20:08.25 | lcuk | quick Stskeeps but your heating on, make it warmer |
| 20:08.57 | X-Fade | A few more days of rain and then it seems spring is coming ;) |
| 20:09.08 | Stskeeps | (finally) |
| 20:09.22 | X-Fade | indeed. |
| 20:09.30 | lcuk | X-Fade, if the snow comes back here it will feel like we had a whole year in just a month! |
| 20:09.41 | Stskeeps | it jumps like -3, 8, 10, -2, 12, 12 here |
| 20:09.44 | X-Fade | But combined with DST it seems that I finally get my evenings back ;) |
| 20:10.44 | Atrus6 | lcuk, heh that's actually clever. Never though of something like that. |
| 20:11.01 | lcuk | Atrus6, thats my point :) |
| 20:11.15 | Stskeeps | lcuk: some claim denmark is the place you can go through all 4 seasons in a day.. |
| 20:11.20 | lcuk | with a library it lowers the barrier of entry for people to come in and bring excellent ideas to life |
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| 20:11.42 | RST38h | turns to Ubuntu UK mirror for leeching, in hopes that the brits are all asleep by now |
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| 20:12.05 | Stskeeps | RST38h: after the zombies took over the UK, they never sleep.. |
| 20:12.10 | qwerty12_N800 | only 8 here ;) |
| 20:12.30 | X-Fade | Hmmm after a full day of hacking on Downloads, it finally looks like the new styling is starting to look like something.. |
| 20:12.51 | Atrus6 | hmm, I think that the title of my proposal should be "Amazing Barcode Scanner of Amazingness, that is Amazing" |
| 20:13.00 | RST38h | Sts: If you mean lcuk, somebody is certainly trying to kill him off with a door =) |
| 20:13.00 | Atrus6 | that's irresistible |
| 20:13.35 | lcuk | "badass-barcode-bit-of-brilliance |
| 20:14.11 | RST38h | qwerty: It is 20:13 Friday night, I do certainly hope that no self respecting British gentleman will allow himself be caught installing Ubuntu Linux at such a special time of the week! =) |
| 20:14.30 | lcuk | isnt self respecting |
| 20:14.42 | lcuk | but because you are advertising it i just got it downloading :P |
| 20:15.02 | qwerty12_N800 | RST38h: lol, maybe they went out while downloading? :P |
| 20:15.06 | lcuk | my ribs really hurt |
| 20:15.52 | qwerty12_N800 | throws lcuk an ice pack/bag of frozen chips |
| 20:16.42 | lcuk | amd? |
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| 20:20.38 | RST38h | qwerty: Actually, I was right, UK server was really fast and didn't time out like the US one |
| 20:21.48 | qwerty12_N800 | Bah! My plan to slow down the GB server failed |
| 20:22.08 | lcuk | qwerty12_N800, you need more than aol dialup to bring down a server |
| 20:22.26 | lcuk | RST38h, most likely the transatlantic/pacific link you are skipping ;) |
| 20:22.33 | lcuk | friday evening is a busy time for the net |
| 20:23.23 | qwerty12_N800 | aol dialup is the only thing northerners know, we in the south have broadband and some other shit |
| 20:23.56 | lcuk | lol qwerty12_N800 i have cable :) |
| 20:24.03 | RST38h | qwerty: So, either it is a bigger pipe or everyone is in the pubs |
| 20:24.21 | RST38h | lcuk: Not skipping a thing, I am in the US right now :) |
| 20:24.29 | lcuk | lololololol |
| 20:25.12 | lcuk | then everyone is in the pubs :D |
| 20:25.21 | qwerty12_N800 | lcuk: yeah, i had analogue cable 10 years ago. cable & wireless bastards were testing digital in Oldham first, rather than London :P |
| 20:25.45 | lcuk | heh, fibre to the box just over there |
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| 20:26.01 | lcuk | points out his window |
| 20:26.06 | sidnei | Stskeeps: do you know something about a missing gdm.conf.template in tablet-gdm-autologin? |
| 20:26.42 | Stskeeps | sidnei: must admit it's over 7 months since i dealt with the deblet packages yet |
| 20:28.49 | RST38h | lcuk: In the process of moving from the old cardiac arrest prone R100 to the R500 |
| 20:29.28 | lcuk | ?? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R100 |
| 20:30.47 | RST38h | lcuk: yea, that's it! =) |
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| 20:35.18 | sidnei | oh, cool i got a gdm |
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| 20:45.44 | fireun | http://oobject.com/home/news/hermes-designing-electronic-organizer-with-cutting-edge-flixible-oled-touchscreen/7526/ |
| 20:45.46 | fireun | yes please |
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| 20:51.22 | RST38h | fireun: A flexible OLED touchscreen like this will have a halflife of about a week. |
| 20:52.12 | fireun | well if it only costs 5$ |
| 20:52.22 | RST38h | no, it will not cost $5 :) |
| 20:52.37 | fireun | then it will just have to last longer than a week |
| 20:52.39 | RST38h | more like $50 apiece for the touchscreen alone |
| 20:53.01 | RST38h | the current ones won't |
| 20:53.25 | RST38h | hell, even a flexible see-through LCD won't last long |
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| 21:15.58 | RST38h | http://hinamizawa198x.hp.infoseek.co.jp/images/photo/JK4U0018.jpg |
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| 21:16.34 | Stskeeps | wtf? :P |
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| 21:17.03 | RST38h | Sts: Seems to be a bunch of Japanese roleplayers reenacting WWII |
| 21:17.29 | RST38h | But yes, "wtf" is probably the only legitimate response |
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| 22:41.01 | sidnei | gives up and installs mer |
| 22:41.15 | woglinde | *g* |
| 22:41.36 | Stskeeps | hint: choose simple installation |
| 22:42.19 | sidnei | Stskeeps: thanks, that was my guess *wink* |
| 22:42.40 | sidnei | Stskeeps: to boot, it's downloading at full speed, ports.ubuntu.com was giving me just 10k/s |
| 22:42.58 | Stskeeps | yeah, ports.ubuntu.com is shite |
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| 23:33.11 | ZehRique | Hello, there. Does somebody can tell me some maemo emulators under GNU/Linux? |
| 23:34.03 | bef0rd | what do you mean ZehRique |
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| 23:35.38 | ZehRique | bef0rd: Well, I would like to develop an application in python for maemo and I don't know wich kind of emulators for using |
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| 23:37.09 | Jaffa | ZehRique: The Maemo SDK comes with qemu, and an x86 version of Maemo you can run locally |
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| 23:39.59 | ZehRique | Jaffa: hmm.. OK! I will try it. But there is a software related with GNOME that does the same functionallity, am I sure? |
| 23:40.16 | Jaffa | I'm afraid I don't understand your question. |
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| 23:47.25 | *** topic/#maemo is Welcome to #maemo | http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | The Maemo community is looking for talented students -> http://wiki.maemo.org/GSoC_2009 |
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| 23:59.08 | crashanddie_ | ZehRique, my I suggest that you read up upon the starter's guide for maemo developers? |
| 23:59.48 | crashanddie_ | ZehRique, most of these questions are covered. Most people run qemu which allows to run an emulated ARM environment. This is probably what you are looking after, as Jaffa said. |
