| 00:00.10 | wazd | Zic: Don't know exactly would it be 3G only or GPRS/EDGE/3G |
| 00:00.11 | Zic | wazd: just, for now I own a N800 and maybe I will bui the new hardware which comes with Fermantle, but I own a Freerunner phone (on Linux) too |
| 00:00.17 | Zic | s/bui/buy/ |
| 00:00.32 | benson | HSPA is announced, GPRS is a pocssible inference. |
| 00:00.53 | wazd | benson: gprs would be great cause we haven't got 3g :) |
| 00:01.19 | mikkov_ | 3g only modem would be utterly stuupid |
| 00:01.24 | benson | wazd: Yep; I'm hoping so, too. Don't wanna have to switch to ATT |
| 00:01.40 | wazd | ken-p: release data is not available for now |
| 00:03.05 | Zic | wazd: so, it's a data cellular modem, not a GSM modem (to make phone call, sending SMS... MMS used data cellular modme I think) |
| 00:03.10 | wazd | I'm waiting for new UI to start work on next omw :) |
| 00:03.11 | Zic | +? |
| 00:03.26 | wazd | Zic: yes |
| 00:04.21 | Zic | great, because I'm sure if they add a GSM modem, even if ITT by Nokia can't enter in my pocket, I will try, even if I need to enlarge my pockets :) |
| 00:04.59 | wazd | Zic: how can you judge bout size of upcoming hardware?) |
| 00:05.28 | Zic | wazd: 770/N800/N810 have not really changed about size |
| 00:05.39 | wazd | Zic: the've added wi-max modem to n810 and it was pretty pocketable) |
| 00:05.48 | wazd | Zic: and GSM is smaller |
| 00:06.15 | Zic | wanders: yes, it's pretty pocketable, but lesser than a phones, even if the Freerunner is large :) |
| 00:06.50 | wazd | Zic: does any other phone has 4.2" screen? |
| 00:07.10 | Zic | (I'm a geek and I try to persuade myself that I don't do a redundant buying with already own a N800, and buying recently a Freerunner) |
| 00:07.20 | Zic | that's all :> |
| 00:07.56 | wazd | Zic: I'm trying to say that lack of GSM is more ideological solution than technical |
| 00:08.12 | wazd | Zic: to kill competition between n97 |
| 00:08.14 | Zic | wazd: yes, and that's a best point |
| 00:08.49 | Zic | wazd: because even if I need a phone every day in my pocket (and I prefer that this phone is documented and using FOSS software) |
| 00:09.04 | Zic | I'm feeling free when I use my N800 and shutdown the phone ;-) |
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| 00:10.16 | Zic | it's my question about existence of this night in fact ;-) |
| 00:10.59 | lardman | GAN800: fremantle stuff? |
| 00:11.21 | wazd | Good choice to have separated phone and PDA is when you're power user |
| 00:11.39 | Zic | and that's the reason of my question : I prefer that the next ITT of Nokia will not add a GSM modem to make and receive calls |
| 00:12.07 | wazd | When you'll have your PDA battery dry, your phone will be online |
| 00:12.15 | Zic | but if you say it's just a data cellular modem, it's great :) |
| 00:12.31 | Zic | wazd: yes, it's one other reason to me |
| 00:14.19 | Zic | wazd: it just make me think about that because all friend who own an Internet Tablet of Nokia own a very classical phone |
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| 00:15.13 | Zic | and recently, I order a FOSS based and documented phone, the OpenMoko Freerunner, so... :) |
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| 00:16.22 | Zic | except from hardware, features are pretty the same of IT of Nokia |
| 00:16.59 | Zic | so, here I am and asking some questions tonight :) |
| 00:17.08 | Zic | thanks for your answers |
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| 00:23.54 | Zic | (for an example with only Nokia devices, like wazd said, own a N800 and a N97 sounds to be for very specific user (power user)) |
| 00:24.18 | Zic | s/N800/N8*0/ |
| 00:27.21 | wazd | Owning n97 and n8*0 is a bit overkill :) |
| 00:27.48 | roope | Hello. |
| 00:27.56 | wazd | I'd prefer n8*0 and a small phone or n97 alone) |
| 00:28.11 | wazd | roope: hi |
| 00:31.33 | Zic | have to go to sleep, bye, have a nice day or good night too |
| 00:33.46 | wazd | If anyone is still interested - n97 seems to have same TV-out through 3.5mm jack technology as RX-51 seems to have: blet of Nokia own a very classical phone |
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| 00:33.47 | wazd | <Zic> and recently, I order a FOSS based and documented phone, the OpenMoko Freerunner, so... :) |
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| 00:34.01 | wazd | what the hell |
| 00:34.05 | Jucato | O.o |
| 00:34.18 | wazd | http://ru.youtube.com/watch?v=jN_LSKwnX10 |
| 00:34.43 | wazd | I don't get how this shit happening, sorry) |
| 00:35.07 | lardman | wazd: /me bought an n95 output cable while we were fiddling hoping the n8x0 had some hidden tv-out functionality |
| 00:36.23 | wazd | lardman: ah, it's not new technology :( I've never heard bout it before) |
| 00:36.53 | lardman | the n8x0 could probably do the same, but the lines aren't connected |
| 00:39.58 | lardman | wonders how he's broken his video display by adding a cap to a different queue |
| 00:40.03 | lardman | the wonders of GStreamer! |
| 00:40.20 | lardman | s/cap/pad |
| 00:45.41 | Jucato | does that n97 come with symbian or maemo? (sorry, noob...) |
| 00:45.51 | lardman | symbian |
| 00:46.06 | Jucato | ah... |
| 00:46.55 | Jucato | just needs to figure out how to send/receive sms (or even calls) on the n810 through his 6600 and he's set for life |
| 00:47.56 | lardman | phonelink or gnokii? |
| 00:48.16 | Jucato | hm... I'll try those :) |
| 00:48.26 | lardman | for calls, there was a thread on itt (iirc) about doing that, by masquerading as a headset |
| 00:48.39 | Jucato | oh.. |
| 00:48.47 | Jucato | though SMS is more important to me than calls :D |
| 00:49.02 | Jucato | (my 6600 was used for so many things except calls :D) |
| 00:49.23 | lardman | well those two should do it for you, in fact I think the first wraps the second |
| 00:49.32 | Jucato | ah |
| 00:49.34 | lardman | should be in Garage |
| 00:49.35 | Jucato | thanks :) |
| 00:49.37 | lardman | np |
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| 00:56.12 | lardman | if I drop data in a pipeline beyond a tee, does that stall the pipeline further upstream (i.e. will the other side of the tee also be stalled)? |
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| 00:56.22 | lardman | I presume not, but my images seem to have vanished :( |
| 00:56.29 | bogdanr | Hello |
| 00:56.37 | bogdanr | Did everyone try Mer so far? |
| 00:57.58 | bogdanr | I want to install Mer on the miniSD card but I can't find any instructions so far |
| 00:57.58 | b-man | probibly |
| 00:58.12 | bogdanr | Can you plese point me in the right direction |
| 00:58.13 | bogdanr | ? |
| 00:58.30 | lardman | bogdanr: use the installer |
| 00:58.37 | lardman | it asks you where to install it |
| 00:58.54 | lardman | it's not end-user friendly mind you |
| 00:59.03 | b-man | (yet) |
| 00:59.09 | lardman | indeed :) |
| 00:59.22 | bogdanr | And then how can I boot from miniSD? |
| 00:59.29 | b-man | bootmenu |
| 00:59.50 | bogdanr | How do I go into boot menu? |
| 01:00.04 | lardman | you need to install it, again from the Mer instructions |
| 01:00.17 | bogdanr | OK |
| 01:00.21 | bogdanr | Thanks |
| 01:02.19 | b-man | starts to mess around on DeviantArt - and posts his ubuntu-rescue-menu screenshot :) |
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| 01:26.41 | jaem | timeless: ping! |
| 01:39.28 | lardman | night all |
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| 02:20.04 | bogdanr | How do I know if I have Diablo on my tablet? |
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| 02:29.42 | jaem_ | bogdanr: go to the system settings, and click on the top-left icon (I think it's "about", but I don't have my tablet with me |
| 02:30.09 | jaem_ | it should say there, and if it doesn't, give me the version number, and I'll let you know |
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| 03:31.52 | zakkm | Hey, if i were to sell my Nokia N800, how much do you think i would be able to get? What's its value nowadays? |
| 03:32.45 | Proteous | I would sell it for $5, you can email me when you are ready to sell |
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| 03:33.06 | zakkm | lol i paid $145 for it |
| 03:33.11 | zakkm | cash |
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| 04:13.27 | johnx | so either the charger for my n800 is done or the charging circuit in my n800 is kaput. :$ |
| 04:17.36 | GAN800 | johnx, gotta get a 770 to charge. ;) |
| 04:18.14 | johnx | heh. should have bought one from you when I had the chance |
| 04:18.58 | GAN800 | Yup, I ended up giving it away for shipping. |
| 04:20.21 | johnx | well, I need to verify that my charging port and charging circuit(s) are ok before dropping more money on one of those pricey external chargers with a screen :P |
| 04:24.27 | johnx | Nokia: bring back chargers that are a litle more beefy |
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| 04:32.19 | luke-jr | johnx: charging circuit? |
| 04:32.30 | luke-jr | johnx: that's the binary blob on your N800 |
| 04:32.44 | johnx | i mean the physical hardware in the n800 |
| 04:32.48 | johnx | ...that charges the battery |
| 04:32.58 | luke-jr | you're sure it's not the blob/ |
| 04:32.59 | luke-jr | ? |
| 04:33.07 | johnx | pretty sure |
| 04:33.25 | johnx | it charged intermittently and now won't detect whether the charger is plugged in |
| 04:34.03 | luke-jr | pretty sure that's the blob's job |
| 04:34.14 | luke-jr | figure out how to force it :D |
| 04:34.18 | johnx | what about when the tablet is off? |
| 04:34.31 | luke-jr | dunno |
| 04:35.07 | luke-jr | how about you get a new one and mail me that one? ;) |
| 04:35.18 | johnx | well, I assume that the blob isn't running when the kernel isn't running ... soooo I would assume it's a hardware thing |
| 04:36.56 | johnx | if my tablet is toast it just means I won't be able to test stuff on it ...which will make me cranky, but luckily my zaurus is still going strong |
| 04:37.44 | luke-jr | I still haven't found mine :/ |
| 04:38.32 | johnx | I'm leaning towards it being a problem with the wall charger though :) |
| 04:40.33 | johnx | which would mean my tablet ate this charger alive in less an a month :) |
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| 04:45.21 | zakkm | johnx: i use my old nokia phone charger for my n800, works perfectly? |
| 04:45.39 | johnx | yeah. It's a little tough finding Nokia chargers here... |
| 04:45.44 | zakkm | oh |
| 04:45.48 | zakkm | i live in toronto, canada XD |
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| 05:50.16 | jaem_ | johnx: maybe a dumb question, but did you try cleaning the contacts? I've had those symptoms caused by that before |
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| 06:16.47 | AStorm | hello |
| 06:16.51 | AStorm | what was qwerty12's server address again? |
| 06:18.31 | vabgeo | http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/ is this what u want? |
| 06:19.21 | b1ackdeath | has any one ported vnstat for the tablets yet? |
| 06:20.03 | AStorm | vabgeo, yes |
| 06:22.44 | b1ackdeath | anyone? or alternative ? |
| 06:23.01 | AStorm | vncstat? or what? |
| 06:23.13 | b1ackdeath | vnstat |
| 06:23.33 | b1ackdeath | http://humdi.net/vnstat/ |
| 06:25.41 | AStorm | hmm, nice, I don't think anyone has ported that |
| 06:25.48 | b1ackdeath | damn |
| 06:25.51 | AStorm | as NIT is not a router :> |
| 06:26.17 | b1ackdeath | i know i was gonna use it to monitor my ppp0 bandwith |
| 06:26.29 | b1ackdeath | so i know how much i am using |
| 06:26.32 | AStorm | b1ackdeath, should just be a recompile though |
| 06:26.58 | b1ackdeath | yeah the dependences are messing me up |
| 06:27.22 | AStorm | what are they? |
| 06:27.54 | b1ackdeath | libc6 , libgcc1 |
| 06:28.22 | b1ackdeath | i found a armel port but i cant get it to work http://packages.debian.org/lenny/armel/vnstat |
| 06:28.57 | AStorm | uhm... |
| 06:29.02 | AStorm | both are in |
| 06:29.10 | AStorm | you need to rebuild the package |
| 06:29.27 | AStorm | I suggest grabbing a person with access to maemo buildbot |
| 06:29.39 | AStorm | and having them submit the source deb |
| 06:30.01 | b1ackdeath | alright |
| 06:30.17 | AStorm | assuming there is one |
| 06:30.30 | b1ackdeath | hmhmmh |
| 06:30.34 | AStorm | alternatively, build it yourself in the scratchbox |
| 06:31.33 | b1ackdeath | i'll give that a shot |
| 06:32.42 | AStorm | the lenny package is for the same eabi - should work if force-installed |
| 06:35.24 | AStorm | ah, failure |
| 06:35.33 | AStorm | we have an older version of glibc here |
| 06:35.46 | b1ackdeath | hmhmh |
| 06:36.17 | AStorm | mer and fremantle will be much fresher though |
| 06:36.31 | AStorm | and mer is compatible with ubuntu jaunty by design |
| 06:36.46 | b1ackdeath | this is true yet i have get to install mer tho |
| 06:37.15 | AStorm | if you want to temporarily break your device, sure :) |
| 06:37.31 | AStorm | it still needs a lot of bug catching |
| 06:39.35 | b1ackdeath | well on a not on the same partition tho |
| 06:40.57 | AStorm | might work, yes |
| 06:41.24 | AStorm | but I'm not sure if it doesn't have a newer kernel |
| 06:42.20 | b1ackdeath | hmhm |
| 06:42.52 | AStorm | flashing the kernel and initfs is simple though |
| 06:43.42 | AStorm | I guess I'll install Mer myself too. |
| 06:43.47 | b1ackdeath | yeah i dont think i will be going that far just for one program |
| 06:44.39 | AStorm | mer still *is* the future of maemo (except fremantle, which will be for next nokia NIT at first) |
| 06:44.52 | AStorm | s/nokia NIT/NIT/ |
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| 06:46.48 | jaem_ | AStorm: are you suffering from RAS Syndrome? :P |
| 06:47.00 | jaem_ | (Redundant Acronym Syndrome Syndrome) |
| 06:47.31 | AStorm | nah |
| 06:47.44 | AStorm | although it does rarely happen to me |
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| 07:56.55 | RST38h | ehlo AStorm |
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| 08:04.53 | AStorm | RST38h, 301 Host denied |
| 08:04.54 | AStorm | ;) |
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| 08:31.28 | Stskeeps | morning |
| 08:32.27 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: is zenity in chinook too btw? |
| 08:39.13 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: alive? |
| 08:39.50 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, morning. http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/free/z/zenity/ |
| 08:39.54 | Stskeeps | ta |
| 08:40.12 | Stskeeps | decided to go with .install for the sake of 0.7, and extras-devel in 0.8 |
| 08:41.04 | Stskeeps | even though i'll prolly get murdered for that |
| 08:41.29 | qwerty12 | hehe |
| 08:41.55 | qwerty12 | How come you aren't just putting it in extras-devel now? |
| 08:42.48 | Stskeeps | i had slightly less time than calculated cos of my fiancées masters thesis defense and all her family and friends coming over :P |
| 08:43.06 | Stskeeps | and there's some things i agree with fanoush should be altered before we bring it to more mainstream |
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| 08:43.26 | qwerty12 | hehe :P, I'm sure the extras police forgive you ;) |
| 08:43.31 | Meiz_n810 | Stskeeps: yes |
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| 08:44.34 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: might have to follow http://internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=259961&postcount=57 |
| 08:44.58 | Meiz_n810 | k |
| 08:45.01 | Stskeeps | sure you have latest evdev? |
| 08:45.06 | Stskeeps | (check version for me will you) |
| 08:46.27 | Stskeeps | hmm |
| 08:46.43 | Stskeeps | i notice extras.install from ~extras show no "distribution" or release name |
| 08:46.51 | Stskeeps | does it automatically pick up 'diablo' or 'chinook'? |
| 08:47.01 | Meiz_n810 | Stskeeps: i installed mer yesterday when you asked |
| 08:47.11 | qwerty12 | Yes, a blank distribution field in app manager equals whatever you're running (diablo/chinook) |
| 08:47.12 | Meiz_n810 | not sure if it's the latest |
| 08:47.35 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: k - dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-evdev |
| 08:49.39 | Meiz_n810 | http://pastebin.com/m1b38f284 |
| 08:50.37 | Stskeeps | dpkg -s :P |
| 08:50.48 | Stskeeps | bloody long versions |
| 08:51.45 | Stskeeps | dpkg -s xserver-xorg-input-evdev that si |
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| 08:55.08 | Meiz_n810 | http://pastebin.com/m7f22ce92 |
| 08:55.17 | Stskeeps | thank you |
| 08:55.33 | Stskeeps | ok, is the right one |
| 08:57.21 | Meiz_n810 | moifies his xmodmap-keymap a bit... |
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| 08:58.35 | Stskeeps | yeah, just wondering where the code for it is |
| 08:59.17 | Meiz_n810 | code for what? |
| 08:59.18 | Stskeeps | pondering if he forgot to add it |
| 08:59.39 | Stskeeps | basically Fn is keycode 464 and X only supports keycodes < 255 |
| 08:59.52 | Meiz_n810 | hmm |
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| 09:03.28 | Meizirkki | hi thopiekar |
| 09:03.44 | Meizirkki | have you seen this? http://tabletui.wordpress.com/2009/01/18/mer-ui-the-beginning/ |
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| 09:09.19 | Stskeeps | Meizirkki: you busy later today? i will need someone to test 0.8 prerelease quickly so |
| 09:10.42 | Meizirkki | Stskeeps: i believe there's nothing in the way |
| 09:10.44 | Stskeeps | k |
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| 09:11.14 | Stskeeps | i'll start generating images now then, after testing johnx's new packages |
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| 09:44.47 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 09:44.50 | Stskeeps | morning jaffa |
| 09:44.55 | Meizirkki | morning |
| 09:45.18 | qwerty12 | morning Jaffa |
| 09:46.31 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: think installation works OK after johnx's latest changes |
| 09:47.01 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: excellent! |
| 09:48.43 | Jaffa | BTW, is first-setup going to a bg in 0.7? |
| 09:48.53 | Stskeeps | hm? |
| 09:49.12 | Jaffa | Fremantle's dialogues-at-bottom makes it look a little... unbalanced |
| 09:49.23 | Jaffa | s/a bg/have a background/ |
| 09:49.38 | Stskeeps | checking.. |
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| 09:50.26 | Jaffa | Could be a 0.8 thing, with some wazd love - not just a splash but a flashy "self-advert" |
| 09:51.01 | Stskeeps | yes, 0.7 has a bg, the wallpaper |
| 09:51.07 | Stskeeps | in f-b-w |
| 09:51.19 | Jaffa | Ah, cool. |
| 09:51.42 | Jaffa | just had black in that image you gave me, IIRC |
| 09:51.44 | Stskeeps | a commit got lost so :) |
| 09:51.45 | Stskeeps | yeah |
| 09:51.56 | Jaffa | cool stuff |
| 09:53.39 | RST38h | moo sts |
| 09:53.41 | Stskeeps | moo, RST38h |
| 09:57.21 | RST38h | loves that n810 vs n97 thread on itt |
| 09:57.48 | aquatix | ooh |
| 09:57.49 | Jucato | is reminded to start lurking in itt |
| 09:58.08 | RST38h | "n810 has a cli and can mount external cdroms, so it is much better and nokia should sell it instead of n97!" |
| 09:58.18 | aquatix | RST38h: lol |
| 09:58.28 | aquatix | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25596 ? |
| 09:58.49 | RST38h | some people just never ever learn |
| 10:00.03 | aquatix | ah, found it |
| 10:00.06 | aquatix | reads |
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| 10:03.27 | aquatix | Maybe the N97 is a better MID than the N810. |
| 10:03.28 | aquatix | wtf |
| 10:03.33 | aquatix | the N97 is a *phone* |
| 10:04.00 | aquatix | which i will use happily along with my n810 and/or rx51 |
| 10:04.10 | aquatix | (preferably the latter) |
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| 10:16.02 | Stskeeps | pokes maemo-select-location with a stick |
| 10:16.15 | lcukx41 | wakes up |
| 10:16.34 | X-Fade | morning |
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| 10:16.42 | Stskeeps | Meizirkki: on maemo? |
| 10:16.46 | qwerty12 | morning X-Fade |
| 10:16.52 | lcukx41 | mornin x-fade |
| 10:17.12 | X-Fade | Ugh, pre coffee. |
| 10:17.14 | aquatix | morning all :) |
| 10:17.22 | aquatix | hands X-Fade a nice cup of strong coffee |
| 10:17.24 | qwerty12 | hi aquatix |
| 10:17.26 | lcukx41 | yeah x-fade, clean your teeth as well |
| 10:17.38 | X-Fade | lcukx41: Well, did that part already :) |
| 10:17.40 | aquatix | ugh, indeed |
| 10:17.51 | X-Fade | aquatix: Thanks. I needed that.. |
| 10:19.01 | lcukx41 | aquatix: enough water in the kettle for another? |
| 10:19.14 | Stskeeps | Meizirkki: do me a favour and when you're in maemo, install http://bsd.tspre.org/~stskeeps/merinstaller.install after uninstalling Mer installer, and see if you can make it install and show up in Utilities? |
| 10:19.19 | Stskeeps | i suspect my tablet setup is wrecked |
| 10:19.24 | aquatix | lcukx41: sure |
| 10:19.36 | aquatix | hands lcukx41 a nice cup of strong coffee too |
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| 10:19.58 | lcukx41 | cool, i hope its so strong the spoon stands up |
| 10:20.20 | lcukx41 | had little sleep |
| 10:20.26 | aquatix | the spoon almost melts in it |
| 10:20.59 | lcukx41 | :D mmmm molten stainless steel |
| 10:21.10 | lcukx41 | zingy! |
| 10:21.28 | Meizirkki | Stskeeps: oki |
| 10:22.03 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, when you have no desktop file in the merinstaller package (looking at merinstaller_1.9.5-mer2_armel.deb), I wouldn't really expect maemo-select-menu-location to work ;) |
| 10:22.20 | lcukx41 | i had my 810 in the pocket of my combats yesterday and nearly smashed it to smithereens |
| 10:22.23 | aquatix | lcukx41: gives that extra zing to your coffee |
| 10:22.34 | aquatix | lcukx41: ick |
| 10:22.39 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: eh. no desktop file? |
| 10:22.41 | Stskeeps | ffs. |
| 10:22.48 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, nothing else either tbh |
| 10:22.53 | Stskeeps | .. |
| 10:23.38 | lcukx41 | the pocket was near my knee, i wont be doin that again |
| 10:24.37 | lcukx41 | does the merinstaller package work in diablo, and will it work with a 1gb card? |
| 10:24.38 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, you may just find it a lot easier to use dh_install for this rather than your Makefile setup |
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| 10:25.50 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: yeah, possibly. feel free to contribute better packaging :P |
| 10:26.21 | qwerty12 | Fine, I've done enough cleaning of my transmission package for now :P |
| 10:26.28 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 10:26.41 | Stskeeps | you should definately have a "make conic stay at these APs" |
| 10:26.53 | Stskeeps | btw, xchat would be nice with reconnecting to server when it notices AP has disconnected or changed |
| 10:27.17 | lcukx41 | it does doesnt it? when it times out |
| 10:27.22 | Stskeeps | lcukx41: takes quite a while |
| 10:27.23 | qwerty12 | That's not a bad idea, I'm always reconnecting manually |
| 10:27.34 | lcukx41 | yeah sts, but thats the internet as a whole |
| 10:27.46 | lcukx41 | if it was too eager you would be kicked out every 10 seconds |
| 10:27.54 | lcukx41 | half the internet is unstable |
| 10:28.33 | lcukx41 | the other half is under x-fades control ;) |
| 10:29.11 | X-Fade | Heh, not even close :) |
| 10:29.17 | lcukx41 | we are gonna have talk.maemo.org for the forums, why cant we have irc.maemo.org? |
| 10:29.32 | lcukx41 | x-fade :) trying to help your ego :P |
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| 10:30.17 | lcukx41 | but i dont know anyone who knows enough about irc to be able to set something like that up |
| 10:30.36 | lcukx41 | do you know anyone like that Stskeeps :P ? |
| 10:31.17 | qwerty12 | Meh, Freenode's a lot bigger than what irc.maemo.org would be and with more servers. Seems kinda lame imho to have an entire server for one chan |
| 10:31.24 | Stskeeps | lcukx41: the amount of trouble needed to run a maemo.org network and the political problems it brings with it and the problem of attracting interesting new people .. |
| 10:31.29 | Stskeeps | is bigger than the benefit |
| 10:31.47 | X-Fade | Yeah, freenode is good enough atm.. |
| 10:31.48 | Stskeeps | i'm willing to bet we are attracting a lot of people to maemo community just by the size of this channel |
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| 10:33.42 | lcukx41 | knows its inpractical :P |
| 10:40.33 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, mind if I change rootsh dependency to "rootsh | becomeroot | easyroot"? |
| 10:41.26 | Stskeeps | go ahead, just as long as they work as the same |
| 10:42.00 | Stskeeps | uploads mer3 |
| 10:42.07 | qwerty12 | yeah, I did a quick grep and the only thing used from rootsh is "sudo gainroot" which is provided by the other 2 as well. By doing rootsh | becomeroot | easyroot, it opens it up a bit to people |
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| 10:43.59 | Meizirkki | Stskeeps: Merinstaller is now installed, but it seems to not show up on menu |
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| 10:48.52 | lcukx41 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:50.27 | Meizirkki | it doesn't remove itself |
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| 10:51.14 | Meizirkki | Stskeeps: http://pastebin.com/m19ddaa46 |
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| 10:54.22 | lcukx41 | Meizirkki: i suppose he could install it himself :D |
| 10:54.56 | Stskeeps | Meizirkki: grab mer3 |
| 10:55.38 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: I've marked the "work out HAM brokenness" task to the green block and marked it completed |
| 10:55.58 | Jaffa | Is there a package of zenvoid's sounds for 0.7? |
| 10:55.59 | Stskeeps | k, you can check vm, sec |
| 10:56.02 | Stskeeps | not yet |
| 10:57.10 | lcukx41 | jaffa top banana! |
| 10:57.21 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: since we don't have sound yet ;) |
| 11:00.05 | Meizirkki | Stskeeps: you want me to test merinstaller mer3 version? |
| 11:00.06 | aquatix | boots Mer 0.6 in virtualbox |
| 11:00.28 | Meizirkki | .install-file worked btw. |
| 11:01.04 | aquatix | hm, those install dialogs don't accept enter |
| 11:01.40 | rzr | aquatix: which image ? |
| 11:02.30 | aquatix | 0.6 |
| 11:02.43 | aquatix | the official virtualbox image from the Mer site |
| 11:03.50 | rzr | ok i have it too |
| 11:04.36 | aquatix | it's damn snappy on my machine though :) |
| 11:04.50 | rzr | i plan to flash it to my 770 |
| 11:05.01 | rzr | but i have only 512MB |
| 11:05.21 | aquatix | SD card? |
| 11:05.37 | rzr | 770 has rsmmc slot |
| 11:05.42 | aquatix | oh |
| 11:05.44 | aquatix | hm |
| 11:05.48 | aquatix | indeed |
| 11:08.44 | rzr | http://www2.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.5091 |
| 11:12.40 | aquatix | heh, nice |
| 11:13.11 | Stskeeps | Meizirkki: just see if it installs OK, as in, not mer install, but installer itself |
| 11:13.33 | Meizirkki | okay |
| 11:14.06 | Stskeeps | it points to a missing URL so |
| 11:14.30 | Stskeeps | aquatix: ctrl-m :P |
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| 11:14.56 | aquatix | Stskeeps: how's that intuitive? :) |
| 11:18.22 | Meizirkki | Stskeeps: is mer-armel-installer-v0.6.deb the mer3? |
| 11:19.33 | Stskeeps | Meizirkki: if .install worked then mer3 did :) |
| 11:19.42 | Stskeeps | aquatix: Maemo weird thing |
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| 11:20.40 | Meizirkki | Stskeeps: i uninstalled merinstaller. then installed it again with .install file. Now i have mer2 version and it doesn't work.. http://pastebin.com/m19ddaa46 |
| 11:21.11 | lcukx41 | can we make a viable proposal for using n8x0 in space? i wanna go on a zero g flight :D |
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| 11:21.15 | lcukx41 | http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/31/0710235 |
| 11:22.23 | lcukx41 | "testing whether n810 gps can lock when closer to the constellation" |
| 11:22.44 | aquatix | ghehe |
| 11:23.50 | lcukx41 | :D x-chat during shuttle liftoff |
| 11:25.23 | jaska | i wonder how confused gps-receivers get when theyre near or above the constellation? |
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| 11:27.07 | lcukx41 | jaska, depends on how many sats it can see, but from what i know with 2 or 3 reference points you have 2 roots for the solution, but once you get 4 you are only left with 1 reasonable conclusion, but the chipset designers mightv hardcoded it out |
| 11:27.29 | lcukx41 | to stop accidental miscalculations when you are around building and having unfortunate echos |
| 11:27.42 | lcukx41 | "you are at 470000 miles above earth" |
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| 11:27.57 | lardman | morning |
| 11:28.06 | qwerty12 | morning lardman |
| 11:28.11 | lcukx41 | morning lardman |
| 11:28.14 | jaska | many crippled chips dont work after 18km |
| 11:28.34 | lardman | jaska: 18km high? |
| 11:28.35 | lcukx41 | its just a reasonable limit to the calculation |
| 11:29.03 | jaska | yeah... the actual limit for us-made ones is 60kft and some speed (500km/h or such?) to avoid making cheap cruise missiles |
| 11:29.21 | lcukx41 | yeah lardman, i mentioned nasa are offering free zero g flights i nreturn for a viable space tech proposal |
| 11:29.49 | lardman | ah, ok |
| 11:30.05 | jaska | ahh, 999 knots |
| 11:30.22 | jaska | but many of them just stop working above the limit because the manufacturers were too cheap |
| 11:30.34 | lcukx41 | its just outside the reasonable bounds |
| 11:30.53 | lcukx41 | there arent many people who need tomtom in their rocket |
| 11:31.04 | lcukx41 | "please make a u-turn as soon as possible" |
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| 11:31.28 | jaska | warning, speed camera? |
| 11:31.36 | lardman | http://www.gpsy.com/gpsinfo/gps-faq.txt section 1.8 |
| 11:31.54 | jaska | not all of the chips adhere to those limits and some have hackable firmware |
| 11:32.33 | lardman | well this might need to go above 60k' http://www.members.shaw.ca/sonde/ |
| 11:32.35 | lcukx41 | yeah jaska, but realistically its not needed |
| 11:32.56 | jaska | well, if you do balloons etc the 18km limit will bite |
| 11:33.04 | lcukx41 | lardman, would your rockets break the bounds? |
| 11:33.14 | lardman | lcukx41: no, only small motors |
| 11:33.28 | lcukx41 | multicore! |
| 11:33.32 | lardman | couple of thousand feet I guess, but no payload for that |
| 11:33.36 | jaska | thres also the 6G acceleration limit |
| 11:33.40 | lcukx41 | have you seen the waterpowered jetpack ? |
| 11:33.43 | lcukx41 | looks AWESOME! |
| 11:33.50 | lardman | lcukx41: no, do you have a url? |
| 11:33.54 | lcukx41 | i would love to go in the open water with it and fly across the ocean |
| 11:34.26 | lcukx41 | http://www.break.com/index/amazing-new-water-powered-jet-pack.html |
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| 11:37.07 | lardman | lol, that is cool! |
| 11:37.19 | lcukx41 | its awesome! |
| 11:41.03 | aquatix | awesome |
| 11:43.14 | lcukx41 | i have installed komodo edit on my ubuntu system here, but its got no menu entry (it was a .tar.gz install) it runs fine from the console - can i just add a menu entry for it? (still used to shortcuts) |
| 11:44.07 | lardman | ah, going back to the 1000kt, 18km limits: http://www.armscontrol.org/documents/mtcr |
| 11:44.21 | qwerty12 | lcukx41, Yes, System> Preferences > Main Menu > New Item |
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| 11:46.20 | lcukx41 | thanks qwerty |
| 11:46.43 | lcukx41 | lardman, that site lists all the things you cant use - but it looks more like a shopping list for an aeger terrorist |
| 11:46.46 | lcukx41 | eager |
| 11:48.45 | lardman | yeah |
| 11:55.27 | lcukx41 | if i wanted to do dev from both maemo side and from x86 using the same folder thats ok isnt it |
| 11:55.59 | lcukx41 | ie sftp from ubuntu and ensure the x86 port works but using the same source as currently does |
| 11:56.14 | lcukx41 | ahh mind you that screws up the binaries |
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| 12:03.19 | des^ | I am testing a programm with sratchbox/xephyr, I want to test if I can open a file, where do I need to put my file that it shows up in one of the folders from the open dialog? |
| 12:03.56 | qwerty12 | /home/$USER/MyDocs |
| 12:06.15 | des^ | ah thanks |
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| 12:19.33 | Stskeeps | aquatix: feel like testing a vmdk? |
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| 12:28.20 | wazd | lo everybody |
| 12:28.29 | Stskeeps | lo wazd |
| 12:29.16 | wazd | oh, maemo podcast on air, nice |
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| 12:34.25 | aquatix | Stskeeps: sure, but i don't have much time left today |
| 12:34.29 | aquatix | i can download now though |
| 12:37.34 | Macer | season 5 of boston legal was awful |
| 12:39.46 | wazd | read bout .apng format. Wazd's happy :) |
| 12:40.10 | Stskeeps | aquatix: nah, it's ok, new release tomorrow anyhow |
| 12:40.17 | aquatix | ah, great |
| 12:40.21 | aquatix | keep me posted :) |
| 12:40.24 | aquatix | a ping will suffice |
| 12:40.36 | aquatix | i will likely not be here today anymore |
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| 13:10.59 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: downloading now |
| 13:11.14 | Stskeeps | k |
| 13:13.40 | Macer | wow |
| 13:13.49 | Macer | getting this damn dmg onto a bootable usb drive is a bitch |
| 13:14.01 | Macer | i seriously have to look around for my osx dvds |
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| 13:56.33 | lardman | Jaffa: that email ok? as I'm off now |
| 13:58.02 | lardman | anyway, seems so, have a nice weekend all, might be back on tomorrow |
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| 14:16.48 | GAN800 | Jaffa, my pick stands. I'm too lazy to send another email for now. :p |
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| 14:17.59 | johnx | w00. new charger |
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| 14:20.26 | GAN800 | johnx, fix the issue, then? |
| 14:20.50 | johnx | yup :D |
| 14:21.18 | johnx | it was actually the simple little plug adapter that was b0rken |
| 14:23.32 | johnx | my n800 is happily charging now, thank goodness |
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| 14:27.25 | johnx | RST38h, I've got a phone for you: http://tinyurl.com/ded76f |
| 14:28.00 | MaceN800 | putting osx back on the macbook |
| 14:28.01 | lcuk | has netcraft confirmed it? |
| 14:28.08 | MaceN800 | sucks |
| 14:28.25 | MaceN800 | just for an adhoc |
| 14:29.04 | lcuk | MaceN800, what did you have on it |
| 14:29.15 | MaceN800 | kubuntu |
| 14:29.30 | MaceN800 | wiped osx from it |
| 14:29.41 | johnx | why didn't you just resize? |
| 14:31.22 | MaceN800 | dont like dual booting |
| 14:31.44 | MaceN800 | i kinda hate osx |
| 14:32.08 | johnx | then why did you buy a mac? |
| 14:32.21 | MaceN800 | got it for $400 |
| 14:32.21 | wazd | whoa, 21:9 screen is kinda awesome |
| 14:32.31 | MaceN800 | 21:9? |
| 14:32.35 | MaceN800 | wtf? |
| 14:32.46 | wazd | http://blogs.zdnet.com/home-theater/?p=259 |
| 14:32.52 | Jaffa | GAN800: bah, you sent another email :-) |
| 14:32.52 | MaceN800 | super ultra wide screen? |
| 14:33.04 | wazd | thats cinema ratio I think |
| 14:34.52 | mavhc | 21:9 is 2.33:1, anamorphic films are 2.35:1, widescreen are 1.85:1 |
| 14:35.53 | lcuk | my god, if regular users get hold of that, they will STILL render regular broadcast definition to it. and worst of all - they will use the "stretch" formatting cos they dont wanna waste space |
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| 14:36.19 | lcuk | "i bought a big wide tv and by god im gonna use it" |
| 14:36.39 | lcuk | they dont care if it looks like pancake head city |
| 14:36.57 | mavhc | heh, google's added This Site May Harm your computer to every result |
| 14:37.21 | lcuk | stop searching for"virus installer" then |
| 14:37.32 | mavhc | I test searched for [Google] |
| 14:38.11 | lcuk | oh yeah |
| 14:38.26 | lcuk | i use a nomiddleman script usually to cut out redirects so never notices |
| 14:38.27 | lcuk | d |
| 14:38.45 | GAN800 | Jaffa, managed to get a free moment at the computer. ;) |
| 14:40.19 | MaceN800 | lcuk, haha |
| 14:40.37 | MaceN800 | yah. stretching kinnda sucks |
| 14:41.08 | mavhc | people don't care about quality |
| 14:41.11 | sisto1 | i guess it's a disclaimer, every site may harm your computer |
| 14:42.07 | mavhc | this site contains so much javascript it may overheat your computer |
| 14:42.19 | jaska | googles skynet went nuts |
| 14:42.23 | MaceN800 | java |
| 14:42.39 | MaceN800 | what an abortion |
| 14:43.02 | mavhc | yeah, java's so slow it won't even run real time games on my low end phone |
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| 14:49.46 | wazd | okay, I think I have enough technology to kick every weather applet's ass with OMWeather :) |
| 14:50.12 | wazd | HTC will beg for mercy >:D |
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| 14:55.47 | Jaffa | Any Greasemonkey scripts yet for getting rid of that irritating waste of space |
| 14:56.08 | mavhc | which? |
| 14:56.31 | Jaffa | Ah, it's broken malware. Google for "Google" and you get a whole load of phishing site warnings |
| 14:57.09 | Jaffa | mortti: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=jaffa&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-GB:unofficial&client=firefox-a |
| 14:57.29 | Jaffa | s/mortti/mavhc/ |
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| 14:59.00 | Jaffa | Top story on /. |
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| 14:59.24 | mavhc | doesn't top = latest anyway? |
| 15:00.39 | lcuk | jaffa, i use something evolved from nomiddleman - its a greasemonkey script which gets rid of redirects :) |
| 15:00.57 | Jaffa | http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/31/1457221 |
| 15:01.18 | lcuk | top story on tech. |
| 15:01.31 | lcuk | just hit the front now |
| 15:01.37 | lcuk | you must be a subby :P |
| 15:02.00 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: that image you sent me does *not* have an auto-present ~/.osso/hildon-application-manager so installation would still be broken. |
| 15:02.11 | Jaffa | lcuk: nope, maybe just a cache issue |
| 15:03.06 | qwerty12_N800 | Jaffa, can't you just set the assume connection flag directly in the source? |
| 15:03.34 | johnx | Jaffa, hmm? let me make sure I committed that |
| 15:03.58 | Jaffa | qwerty12_N800: I could, but a real replacement for libconic/icd should be done |
| 15:04.01 | lcuk | jaffa http://commons.oreilly.com/wiki/index.php/Greasemonkey_Hacks/Linkmania!#Remove_URL_Redirections |
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| 15:04.33 | qwerty12_N800 | Jaffa, yeah, I've been moaning about conic :) |
| 15:05.25 | des^ | some hacked google *lol* |
| 15:05.29 | des^ | *one |
| 15:06.06 | johnx | Jaffa, can you run apt-cache poilcy hildon-desktop-env ? |
| 15:07.31 | Jaffa | johnx: yup, one sec |
| 15:08.14 | Meizirkki | Jaffa: app-manager not working for you in Mer? |
| 15:08.54 | Jaffa | johnx: 0.2-10 is only one available, and it's the installed version |
| 15:09.16 | Jaffa | Meizirkki: the 'assume-connection 1' tweak wasn't in the vmdk image Stskeeps sent me this morning |
| 15:09.22 | johnx | can you grep -i assume /usr/bin/start-hildon ? |
| 15:09.39 | Meizirkki | Jaffa: k |
| 15:10.54 | Jaffa | johnx: Yeah, seems to be in there. I'll debug the command - I did write it without testing. It's also in there twice, BTW |
| 15:11.03 | johnx | heh |
| 15:11.09 | johnx | yeah, just noticed that too |
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| 15:11.31 | dick-richardson | great job on FLOSS Weekly! |
| 15:11.43 | Jaffa | johnx: hmm, it's there now. WTF |
| 15:12.02 | Jaffa | johnx: ahhhh, hang on - does first-boot-wizard go through start-hildon? I've rebooted and now it's working |
| 15:12.41 | johnx | the process goes: x starts -> f-b-w > x starts again -> star-hildon |
| 15:15.40 | Jaffa | johnx: hmm. Very odd then, at end of f-b-w, there was no ~/.osso/hildon-application-manager. Closed down tidily with sudo shutdown -h now; you asked me to check policy; so I restarted VirtualBox and the file was now present. |
| 15:16.59 | johnx | ah, durr :) |
| 15:17.11 | johnx | ~/.osso doesn't exist when start-hildon is run first :) |
| 15:17.20 | infobot | johnx: that's too long |
| 15:17.22 | Jaffa | johnx: ah, I wondered if that might be it |
| 15:17.35 | johnx | I'll fix it right now |
| 15:17.43 | johnx | did Stskeeps already build 0.7 images? |
| 15:18.52 | t_s_o | odd, as a experiment i have both advanced battery and the default battery icon displayed, and the default keeps getting highlighted, as if it was tapped and displaying the time calculation... |
| 15:19.12 | Jaffa | johnx: no, just a current state for testing |
| 15:19.29 | Jaffa | johnx: stick a mkdir in at the top of start-hildon and remove the duped line? |
| 15:19.35 | johnx | yup |
| 15:19.37 | johnx | in progress |
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| 15:21.03 | Jaffa | johnx: cool, ta. |
| 15:25.25 | t_s_o | heh, reading old userfriendly strips produce some interesting thoughts... |
| 15:25.34 | t_s_o | http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=19980713&mode=classic |
| 15:27.35 | t_s_o | wonder why personal menu suddenly decided to not show the mnotes icon... |
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| 15:49.59 | zeenix | timeless: why don't you want to disclose your name? |
| 15:50.08 | zeenix | timeless: http://wiki.maemo.org/FOSDEM_2009 |
| 15:54.32 | gomiam | zeenix: please understand, timeless has little kids, and there is no easy way to explain being a Maemo software developer ;) |
| 15:54.49 | zeenix | gomiam: right |
| 15:55.39 | gomiam | O:-) |
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| 16:28.30 | StOrM_NW | hey all, i having troubles to integrate dbus with hildondesktop.StatusbarItem ... any website explaining the process ... i m programming in python |
| 16:28.36 | StOrM_NW | any help really appreciate |
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| 16:46.02 | Meiz_mer | epiphany-gecko works so well.. xulrunner have probably been updated lately. |
| 16:46.11 | mikkov_ | StOrM_NW: you could probably use advanced-power as an example |
| 16:46.46 | StOrM_NW | ok, thanks |
| 16:48.14 | StOrM_NW | mikkov_, what' s the name of the package that contains advanced-power ... so i can get the source? |
| 16:50.16 | mikkov_ | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/advanced-power/ |
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| 17:28.43 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: worked for me but ok if we COA |
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| 17:42.11 | b-man | is suprised to see how many ubuntu users liked ubuntu-rescue-menu - thay want him to make a x86/amd64 version |
| 17:43.14 | RST38h | is back again |
| 17:45.33 | t_s_o | hmm, so far it really looks like swapping out those noname SD's with kingston ones helped my standby time |
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| 18:17.00 | Stskeeps | johnx: HDE safe now? |
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| 18:18.39 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: COA? |
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| 18:25.54 | RST38h | lcuk |
| 18:26.09 | lcuk | mm |
| 18:28.48 | lcuk | RST38h, bbiab droppin tracy in manchester |
| 18:29.19 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: cover our asses;) |
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| 18:32.46 | wazd | don't know what he wants( |
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| 18:35.44 | b-man | Stskeeps: i'll be uploading merinstaller_1.9.6-1mer3 - this new version includes an updated icon and is now built with the dpkg-buildpackage method ;) |
| 18:37.29 | RST38h | wazd: money? =) |
| 18:38.46 | wazd | RST38h: well, that's an option :) |
| 18:39.08 | wazd | RST38h: I'm just sitting and watching 256x256 white square) |
| 18:40.42 | timelE61i | hEy, who owned mer's xchat? |
| 18:41.51 | sp3000 | the x button owned mer's xchat |
| 18:41.53 | timelE61i | wants to know if it was fixed |
| 18:42.02 | qwerty12_N800 | timelE61i, me |
| 18:42.05 | timelE61i | otherwise i need to file bugs after dinner |
| 18:42.32 | timelE61i | Qwerty: can i give you bugs via irc or do you want official ones? |
| 18:42.40 | timelE61i | sighs |
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| 18:42.58 | timelE61i | asked for salmon and pasta |
| 18:43.15 | qwerty12_N800 | timelE61i, are these bugs specific to Mer's xchat? |
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| 18:43.33 | timelE61i | sp3000: what part of that means "seafood w/ shrimp" in this strange land of yours? |
| 18:43.51 | timelE61i | Qwerty: i don't use xchat anywhere else |
| 18:44.13 | timelE61i | One is a path botch some places had /home/timeless and some /home/user |
| 18:44.21 | timelE61i | That seems mer-ish |
| 18:44.57 | timelE61i | The other was the big x button in the bottom left corner which causes the app to die |
| 18:45.22 | qwerty12_N800 | urgh. that is bad. |
| 18:45.31 | timelE61i | The browser doesn't have such a button, not even in full screen |
| 18:46.20 | qwerty12_N800 | thanks, I'll note those bugs down :). Got any more for me? :) |
| 18:46.45 | timelE61i | Dunno, sp3000, did i? |
| 18:47.00 | timelE61i | The status area behavior is imo unfortunate |
| 18:47.11 | timelE61i | Single tap to hide the app... |
| 18:47.12 | sp3000 | those are the two I remember |
| 18:47.32 | timelE61i | It's very un-maemo |
| 18:47.55 | timelE61i | Oh, the pain to <enter> thing |
| 18:48.10 | timelE61i | Could you respond to both enter and return? |
| 18:48.56 | qwerty12_N800 | that should be doable |
| 18:49.05 | timelE61i | My laptop doesn't have a numpad which made actually using xchat painful |
| 18:50.04 | timelE61i | :) |
| 18:54.23 | b-man | merinstaller 1.9.6-mer3 uploaded to http://trac.tspre.org/bman/merinstaller-mer3/merinstaller_1.9.6-mer3_armel.deb |
| 18:56.12 | timelE61i | oDD Versioning... |
| 18:56.58 | b-man | hehe |
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| 19:06.11 | Stskeeps | b-man: k, give me the differences using bzr diff instead |
| 19:07.45 | Stskeeps | or ask to join mer-committers |
| 19:07.48 | Stskeeps | cos i did some changes earlier |
| 19:09.55 | b-man | ok, i'll join mer-committers :) |
| 19:10.34 | Stskeeps | and then bzr get lp:~mer-committers/m-r/merinstaller, apply your changes, bzr commit -m "log message" ; bzr push lp:~mer-committers/m-r/merinstaller to share with us others |
| 19:10.44 | Stskeeps | did you fix https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4059 too? |
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| 19:13.09 | b-man | i not yet, i'm working on it ;) |
| 19:13.14 | Stskeeps | k |
| 19:18.11 | Stskeeps | https://code.launchpad.net/~mer-committers/m-r/merinstaller |
| 19:18.14 | Stskeeps | what changes i did |
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| 19:21.13 | Stskeeps | b-man: besides the problem there was with the packaging, and the current "no fat" problem, there's nothing otherwise wrong? |
| 19:24.23 | b-man | besides the bootmenu item creation prosess (witch i havn't tested), i don't believe so |
| 19:25.05 | Stskeeps | k |
| 19:28.46 | b-man | hmm, it looks like merinstaller interrupts after it asks for a wget url.. |
| 19:29.32 | dob | b-man: do you still download the file to disk first? |
| 19:30.01 | b-man | dob: yes |
| 19:30.39 | dob | b-man: I found you could just stay with wget by doing 'wget -O - url | tar xzf -' |
| 19:31.35 | b-man | thanks |
| 19:32.33 | b-man | adds that to his next version of merinstaller ;) |
| 19:32.48 | dob | b-man: though the man page says "Including this option automatically sets the number of tries to 1." |
| 19:32.55 | dob | I wonder why that is... :/ |
| 19:33.12 | b-man | hmm |
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| 19:39.06 | b-man | Stskeeps: i dont seem to have that problem in 1.9.6-mer3.. hmm... |
| 19:39.19 | Stskeeps | b-man: yeah, get the bzr and use that as reference |
| 19:39.20 | Stskeeps | heh, http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer/Releases/0.7 so far :P big list |
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| 19:42.41 | timeless | hey, does mer have a .ico? |
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| 19:43.26 | b-man | you mean iso image? |
| 19:43.36 | timeless | no i mean a .ico for my vmware shortcut |
| 19:44.01 | timeless | goes to find the .ico editor on this system |
| 19:44.04 | Stskeeps | didn't make such a small one yet :P |
| 19:44.05 | timeless | can't remember where it lives |
| 19:44.21 | timeless | um, you should make a .ico w/ 16x,32x,48x,64x |
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| 19:45.01 | Stskeeps | hehe, wazd can prolly be convinced in some way :P |
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| 19:48.18 | b-man | applys for mer-committers and waits for Stskeeps for Stskeeps to approve the membership |
| 19:48.33 | b-man | ahhh, i hate this keyboard |
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| 20:13.01 | timeless | hey |
| 20:13.07 | timeless | where should i put a .ico? |
| 20:13.08 | Jaffa | Bah, Midgard page editing is *really* slow on maemo.org atm |
| 20:13.14 | Jaffa | timeless: to do what? |
| 20:13.29 | timeless | for people to have |
| 20:14.58 | timeless | tries to remember which password the maemo.org wiki uses |
| 20:15.32 | qwerty12_N800 | when you find out, let us know please |
| 20:16.30 | timeless | WTF |
| 20:16.36 | timeless | you can't upload .ico's to the wiki? |
| 20:18.23 | timeless | ok, how do i upload a .ico to this stupid wiki? :) |
| 20:18.31 | Jaffa | What are the URLs to the Extras repo install files? |
| 20:18.35 | Jaffa | timeless: turn it into a PNG |
| 20:18.41 | timeless | jaffa: that defeats the purpose |
| 20:18.49 | timeless | png's generally only have 1 frame at 1 res |
| 20:18.57 | timeless | ico's let you have N frames at N res's |
| 20:19.45 | timeless | ok, i give up, http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/mer.ico |
| 20:23.00 | qwerty12_N800 | Jaffa, the installs for the individual packages? |
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| 20:23.22 | timeless | qwerty: so... when do i get a new xchat? :) |
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| 20:24.09 | qwerty12_N800 | timeless, when i'm at a computer with free time :) |
| 20:24.34 | timeless_mer | ok |
| 20:24.46 | RST38h | azerty12: helo |
| 20:25.32 | qwerty12_N800 | fxt38h: ehlo |
| 20:25.36 | timeless | qwerty: hey... |
| 20:25.44 | timeless | could you get xchat to have a second line in the task list? |
| 20:25.46 | RST38h | is heroically forcing himself to work on 65816 core and failing |
| 20:25.52 | timeless | preferably w/ the rest of the window title |
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| 20:26.28 | Meiz_n810 | My n810 has some problem. it refuses to mount internal card :( |
| 20:26.30 | RST38h | headers - done. main() - done. memory layout manager - done. smc loader - done. |
| 20:26.41 | RST38h | cpu core - @%^$#$^ |
| 20:26.42 | qwerty12_N800 | timeless, I've been wanting to figure that one out actually for a while and keep on failing :/ |
| 20:26.49 | qwerty12_N800 | RST38h, ouch :/ |
| 20:27.14 | timeless | fwiw, mer isn't very fast on my poor laptop :( |
| 20:27.31 | timeless | people wondered if i was emulating arm |
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| 20:27.40 | timeless | it was quite embarassing |
| 20:27.50 | RST38h | The whole 65816 datasheet looks like a manual on how to fuck up your CPU architecture |
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| 20:29.21 | Meiz_n810 | filemanager says my internal sd is broken |
| 20:29.24 | Meiz_n810 | it's not |
| 20:29.34 | Meiz_n810 | it works only if i mount it manually |
| 20:30.46 | qwerty12_N800 | Is your swap file corrupt? |
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| 20:31.09 | Meiz_n810 | qwerty: nope |
| 20:31.22 | Meiz_n810 | but swap isn't used automatically. |
| 20:32.08 | qwerty12_N800 | in maemo? |
| 20:32.40 | Meiz_n810 | yes |
| 20:33.19 | Meiz_n810 | http://pastebin.com/m769c70f7 |
| 20:33.29 | Meiz_n810 | does that look correct? |
| 20:33.43 | qwerty12_N800 | in maemo, if there is a /media/mmc2/.swap file, it is always enabled at boot time or when inserting a memory card in the internal slot (on N800) with a .swap file |
| 20:36.05 | Meiz_n810 | reboots |
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| 20:39.12 | Meiz_n810 | qwerty12_N800: i am using cloned maemo, does that kill internal memorycard automount? |
| 20:39.38 | qwerty12_N800 | it didn't for me |
| 20:39.54 | Meiz_n810 | it used to work for me too earlier... |
| 20:42.38 | Meiz_n810 | is there a possibility to run commands automatically when maemo boots? |
| 20:43.34 | timeless | you should be able to attach a usb cable |
| 20:43.47 | timeless | and then destroy the .swap file before the os really boots |
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| 20:44.37 | Meiz_n810 | so there _is_ .swap file? |
| 20:44.57 | timeless | i wouldn't know |
| 20:45.04 | timeless | but if there is one... |
| 20:45.31 | Meiz_n810 | i have just formatted that card, no .swap there. |
| 20:45.55 | Meiz_n810 | But i can make personal-menu item for mounting the internal SD :P |
| 20:48.55 | qwerty12_N800 | has fun with the joys of shell scripting & zenity. I knew there was a reason I uploaded zenity to Extras ;) |
| 20:49.40 | timeless | "No settings available" |
| 20:50.08 | b-man | jumps in joy when his linux magazine finaly arrives |
| 20:51.29 | b-man | woho, i got an ubuntu 8.10 install disk :D |
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| 20:54.48 | RST38h | qwerty: Make a mail client! In bash! =) |
| 20:58.32 | qwerty12_N800 | RST38h, i can't promise that it would work better than modest :p |
| 20:59.29 | RST38h | qwerty: making it work better than modest shouldn't be that difficult... |
| 21:00.09 | timeless | heh |
| 21:00.35 | timeless | chuckles |
| 21:01.03 | qwerty12_N800 | :p |
| 21:02.01 | timeless | "%s wants to add you to his contact list. Allow this and also add %s to your " |
| 21:02.01 | timeless | "contact list?" |
| 21:02.47 | timeless | thought nokia was very careful about gender issues |
| 21:04.06 | timeless | oh wow |
| 21:04.15 | timeless | we have a dialog w/ yes/no in it? what's this world coming to? |
| 21:04.27 | lcuk | quick, change it to cancel/allow |
| 21:05.35 | timeless | rotfl |
| 21:05.52 | timeless | we have code which knows the difference between 1 and !1 |
| 21:06.01 | timeless | but it still uses (s) for the !1 case |
| 21:06.26 | timeless | frowns |
| 21:06.35 | timeless | what would you call an 'mp3 file'? |
| 21:06.53 | timeless | is it a 'sound', a 'music file', an 'audio file', a 'clip'? |
| 21:10.17 | qwerty12_N800 | a 'clip' makes me think of video more |
| 21:10.58 | timeless | nods |
| 21:11.03 | timeless | there's no way i'm using clip |
| 21:11.10 | timeless | clip is obviously what nokia chose :) |
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| 21:16.29 | timeless | so, thoughts? |
| 21:19.42 | lcuk | i think audio file |
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| 21:19.50 | qwerty12_N800 | a 'music file' seems a bit specific to me |
| 21:19.57 | timeless | If you click 'previous' |
| 21:20.02 | timeless | you may get an info banner: |
| 21:20.06 | timeless | "No previous audio file" |
| 21:20.25 | lcuk | question: why can you click back if there is nothing to go back to |
| 21:20.26 | timeless | (currently you get "No previous clips" [plural for no reason, other than to annoy me and be wrong..]" |
| 21:20.37 | timeless | in the browser? |
| 21:20.37 | lcuk | surely the UI should disable the button in that instance unless its wrapping round |
| 21:21.03 | lcuk | you are using the browser for listening to your mp3 files now? |
| 21:21.12 | lcuk | just makes some toast in the kettle |
| 21:22.05 | timeless | where can you click back? |
| 21:22.19 | timeless | the nokia ui spec says that we give feedback whenever you click disabled widgets |
| 21:22.31 | timeless | so people have to invent useless text for such cases |
| 21:22.32 | Proteous | toast in a kettle? |
| 21:23.37 | Proteous | I hate greyed out controls that you can't figure out why it won't let you use |
| 21:24.02 | timeless | proteous: what, you don't like how 'chat' always says 'Not available' no matter which grayed out widget you click? |
| 21:24.07 | benson | Suggestion: "This button's disabled, numbskull!" |
| 21:24.50 | timeless | "Just because this is a touchscreen doesn't mean you should touch everything" |
| 21:24.58 | benson | IMHO, while you may get more specific, you're not likely to get more useful. |
| 21:25.22 | benson | Maybe it's a good thing I didn't write the UI spec, though... |
| 21:25.22 | timeless | well, in the case i hit in chat, the reason was "User is already in contacts" |
| 21:25.32 | timeless | and i sure wish it could have seen that error |
| 21:25.41 | timeless | sadly it's a generic error string, so I, as a localizer, can't fix it |
| 21:26.22 | timeless | brb |
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| 21:27.27 | dick-richardson | is there a way to change canola to display items by date? |
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| 21:29.02 | timeless | grumbles |
| 21:29.07 | timeless | "Unable to play sound.\n" |
| 21:29.07 | timeless | "Audio currently in use." |
| 21:29.11 | timeless | wonders what this means |
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| 21:30.03 | timeless | wonders what an 'audio' is |
| 21:31.03 | benson | IDK, everything gets mixed through esd and gstreamer, so you shouldn't face blocked sound device. |
| 21:31.17 | benson | But it sounds like that's what it means... |
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| 21:33.01 | timeless | selects 'Sound system is busy.' |
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| 21:35.29 | benson | hesitates... then clicks Continue. |
| 21:35.42 | benson | I now own an N810! |
| 21:37.49 | Proteous | cheers |
| 21:43.33 | timeless | Title of a dialog |
| 21:43.40 | timeless | "Add e-mail addr." |
| 21:43.42 | timeless | grumbles |
| 21:44.33 | lcuk | whats the spec for default title lengths though |
| 21:44.34 | benson | Typo, they left out the 'e' in 'adder'. |
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| 21:44.48 | lcuk | benson - w00t @ 810 |
| 21:45.10 | benson | We'll see if I regret it... ;) |
| 21:45.37 | benson | But I think it'll be fun. |
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| 21:52.34 | genewitch | if anyone has a chance can they explain how to reset my n800? i just got it today from a user on ebay and i don't know the root password for apt-get usage, et al |
| 21:52.50 | genewitch | it's not "rootme" "root" or "fakeroot" |
| 21:53.41 | timeless | ssh-keygen -t rsa |
| 21:53.57 | timeless | don't give a password |
| 21:54.05 | genewitch | timeless: speaking to me |
| 21:54.07 | genewitch | ? |
| 21:54.11 | timeless | yes |
| 21:54.54 | genewitch | not found |
| 21:54.54 | timeless | then install http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/capture-root-0.1.deb |
| 21:54.57 | timeless | um |
| 21:55.04 | timeless | install openssh-server |
| 21:55.09 | dick-richardson | or install sudser from the application manager |
| 21:55.13 | dick-richardson | and type sudo su - |
| 21:55.15 | genewitch | k |
| 21:55.17 | dick-richardson | then passwd and set it |
| 21:55.28 | timeless | lots of ways to skin the cat |
| 21:55.33 | dick-richardson | yep |
| 21:55.44 | timeless | my way lets you ssh to root@localhost and then use passwd |
| 21:55.44 | genewitch | awesome |
| 21:55.45 | dick-richardson | although, honestly I'd reflash a unit off ebay |
| 21:55.56 | timeless | yeah, dick's right |
| 21:56.00 | genewitch | dick-richardson: that will work for me |
| 21:56.10 | genewitch | is that howto on maemo.org |
| 21:56.12 | genewitch | ? |
| 21:56.21 | dick-richardson | yep, very straighforward |
| 21:56.34 | genewitch | alright |
| 21:56.47 | genewitch | i dont know why i am using irssi on a remote shell to talk here |
| 21:56.56 | timeless | oops, han just got encased in carbonite and i missed it |
| 21:57.05 | genewitch | sry! |
| 21:57.06 | dick-richardson | that's a great part |
| 21:57.27 | timeless | reaches for the remote |
| 21:57.29 | dick-richardson | http://www.toplessrobot.com/2008/10/the_5_reasons_luke_skywalker_is_a_complete_idiot.php |
| 21:57.49 | dick-richardson | #3 had me rolling |
| 21:59.12 | genewitch | where on maemo are the flashing instructions? diablo mentions it, and OS2008, but there's no link to click |
| 21:59.52 | dick-richardson | which os are you running on your desktop? |
| 22:00.27 | dick-richardson | https://www.nokiausa.com/A4686323 |
| 22:00.29 | genewitch | windows vista. i can boot into ubuntu |
| 22:00.36 | genewitch | i also have xp |
| 22:01.19 | dick-richardson | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
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| 22:02.28 | genewitch | hah! there's a stupid popup on the nokia site that's asking me how my visit was, and it's not going away |
| 22:03.04 | dick-richardson | I've used the ubuntu instructions on that 2nd link without any issues |
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| 22:04.37 | timeless | aww, they cut into the fight sequence as vader was slashing something |
| 22:05.15 | genewitch | dick-richardson: do i want the diablo release or non diablo release |
| 22:05.23 | timeless | diablo |
| 22:05.27 | genewitch | roger that |
| 22:05.36 | timeless | and if it isn't clear, what page are you looking at? |
| 22:05.39 | timeless | because it should be clear.. |
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| 22:07.02 | Phantom | ÐÒÏÛÕ ÓÏ×ÅÔÁ. ÉÍÅÅÔÓÑ Ó×ÅÖÉÊ nokia n810 Ó chinook ÎÁ ÂÏÒÔÕ. ÐÒÉ ÐÏÐÙÔËÅ ÕÓÔÁÎÏ×ÉÔØ ÐÁËÅÔÙ ÌÏÍÉÔÓÑ × ÒÅÐÙ ËÁË ÔÏ ÎÅ ÔÁË. ÐÙÔÁÅÔÓÑ ÚÁÐÏÌÕÞÉÔØ ÎÅÓÕÝÅÓÔ×ÕÀÝÉÅ ...binary-armel/Packages.diff/Index ×ÍÅÓÔÏ ...binary-armel/Packages . ËÕÄÁ ËÏÐÁÔØ? |
| 22:07.11 | timeless | English, please? |
| 22:07.34 | Phantom | ok, just a moment |
| 22:07.48 | genewitch | timeless: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php |
| 22:08.01 | timeless | considers trying to load that page |
| 22:08.05 | genewitch | that page. there's a windows utility, that might work. |
| 22:08.17 | genewitch | timeless: it's just a list of all the RX-34 .bin files |
| 22:08.26 | timeless | iirc that page has a /short/ message at the top |
| 22:08.38 | timeless | would have hoped the message would have been remotely helpful |
| 22:08.41 | genewitch | tablets-dev.nokia.com restricted downloads |
| 22:08.52 | timeless | recalls some not particularly useful comments next to each release |
| 22:09.02 | genewitch | The latest IT OS DIABLO release for Nokia N800 |
| 22:09.07 | genewitch | i got that one |
| 22:10.36 | timeless | wow, that page sucks |
| 22:11.03 | genewitch | i've seen worse on freshmeat |
| 22:11.14 | timeless | i try to stay out of the gutter |
| 22:11.17 | timeless | this is as close as i get |
| 22:11.20 | Phantom | I'm asking for an advice. There's a brand-new Nokia N810 PDA with preinstalled Chinook onboard. When I try to install additional packages, the PDA asks for files in repositories that does not exists. For example, it tries to access ...binary-armel/Packages.diff/Index instead of ...binary-armel/Packages . Where should I look for solution? |
| 22:11.37 | timeless | phantom: reflash w/ diablo |
| 22:11.43 | timeless | (backup if you have anything useful) |
| 22:12.55 | genewitch | "the software version in your device is already the latest" |
| 22:13.47 | genewitch | that only took 1 minute... |
| 22:13.51 | Phantom | I know there are newer versions of the OS and I certainly install them as soon as I download them. But just at the present moment I would like to know is it possible to fix the package management system before I update the system. |
| 22:14.02 | timeless | it is |
| 22:14.05 | timeless | but it isn't worth it |
| 22:19.16 | genewitch | timeless: it's flashed, i should be able to apt-get what you said now? |
| 22:19.31 | timeless | you could |
| 22:19.48 | timeless | my thing is just a way to make it easier to ssh to root@localhost |
| 22:20.05 | timeless | if you don't plan to use the xterm much, there's little need |
| 22:20.19 | genewitch | i intend to use it a lot |
| 22:20.26 | genewitch | i got this for SSH |
| 22:20.37 | Phantom | There's another strange thing about the preinstalled OS. /etc/apt/sources.list is empty and package repositoy adresses are stored elsewhere. |
| 22:20.52 | timeless | in that case, yeah, but you need to use ssh-keygen and setup authorized_keys before you install it |
| 22:21.15 | timeless | phantom: apt supports /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
| 22:21.58 | Phantom | Yeah, I know, I just didn't have a moment to look every place :) |
| 22:23.32 | genewitch | how long should a full battery last while in use? |
| 22:23.50 | timeless | an empty battery will barely get your device booted :) |
| 22:23.52 | timeless | sighs |
| 22:24.14 | genewitch | yeah, but i am deciding if i want to go buy a new battery |
| 22:24.22 | genewitch | i need to get another SD card in town anyhow |
| 22:25.42 | timeless | rotfl |
| 22:25.42 | timeless | one of my favorite lines |
| 22:25.42 | timeless | <c3po> r2d2, you know better than to trust a strange computer |
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| 22:29.15 | Phantom | Is there a way to gain root access without installing anything? I read a wiki that suggests to install packages to gain root access, but I can't install them. |
| 22:29.32 | genewitch | i just had to reflash my n800 to get root |
| 22:30.39 | timeless | phantom: application manager can isntall individual debs for you |
| 22:30.58 | timeless | err install |
| 22:31.02 | Phantom | Well, since I have nothing to reflash with, this will become a solution :) |
| 22:31.13 | timeless | you have no usb cable? |
| 22:31.19 | Phantom | I managed to install a couple of apps using dpkg |
| 22:31.26 | timeless | um |
| 22:31.35 | timeless | you shouldn't be able to run dpkg w/o being root |
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| 22:32.22 | Phantom | Oh, err, I'm sorry. I put it wrong way. |
| 22:33.17 | Phantom | Dkpg did not work without root privileges as it should. .deb were succesfully installed by graphical package manager. |
| 22:33.48 | timeless | you should be able to grab debs for openssh-server and related items from the repository |
| 22:34.11 | timeless | or whichever thing you like |
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| 22:35.42 | Phantom | There's a problem. Some debs were installed seamlessly, but some other were reported to be incompatible despite the arch is armel etc... |
| 22:36.06 | Phantom | I downloaded all debs from maemo.org |
| 22:36.14 | timeless | you have 2007 or 2008? |
| 22:36.21 | Phantom | 2008 |
| 22:37.02 | timeless | "Message moved to Outbox waiting to be sent" |
| 22:37.06 | timeless | wonders what that means |
| 22:39.19 | Phantom | I have the usb cable, I don't have the diablo :( |
| 22:39.24 | lcuk | misread that as "moved to outlook" and thought we had a new hidden feature |
| 22:39.40 | qwerty12_N800 | feature? |
| 22:41.59 | timeless | "Select 1 message only" |
| 22:41.59 | timeless | sighs |
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| 22:53.17 | Phantom | I checked /etc/apt/sourced.list.d/* and it looks correct. So... does anybody know why it tries to access "...Packages.diff/Index" instead of "...Packages" ? |
| 22:54.06 | timeless | http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:cE6QIfmalz4J:ftp.mgts.by/debian/dists/testing-proposed-updates/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.diff/+Packages.diff+Index&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2 |
| 22:54.11 | timeless | such files are real in some repos |
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| 22:57.15 | Stskeeps | evening |
| 22:57.38 | Phantom | Well... I see, but this is some other distro, it's usual debian, not maemo... Am I wrong ? |
| 22:59.15 | timeless | maemo is a debian derivative |
| 22:59.26 | timeless | so errors you get or patterns you see are often the same |
| 23:00.25 | Stskeeps | diff is fine, it is a way to receive patches/diffs instead of whole packages |
| 23:00.57 | Phantom | I mean that since there are no such files in repo it tries to install from, so there must be some workaround to make it install things from where they are. |
| 23:01.26 | timeless | just download the individual files :) |
| 23:02.50 | Phantom | But as I said before, it refuses to install some debs telling that they are incompatible while they were downloaded manually from the same repo. |
| 23:03.12 | timeless | you can read application manager's log from the menu |
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| 23:07.18 | Phantom | I checked the log and there are error lines I understand, but don't know how to deal with. (will try to post here in a few moments) |
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| 23:13.52 | Phantom | Here are the errors in package manager log: |
| 23:13.54 | Phantom | E: Encountered a section with no Package: header |
| 23:13.54 | Phantom | E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com_certified_dists_chinook_user_binary-armel_Packages |
| 23:13.55 | Phantom | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
| 23:15.17 | timeless | wonders if tableteer stopped hosting chinook content |
| 23:18.17 | timeless | cries |
| 23:18.23 | timeless | anyone here use modest? |
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| 23:18.43 | Phantom | and later there are even more strange lines: |
| 23:18.47 | Phantom | apt-worker[1996]: GLIB CRITICAL ** GLib - g_strsplit_set: assertion `string != NULL' failed |
| 23:18.47 | Phantom | W: GPG error: http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com chinook Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2 |
| 23:18.48 | Phantom | E: Failed to fetch http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/dists/chinook/diablo/binary-armel/Packages.gz 404 Not Found |
| 23:18.51 | Phantom | E: Failed to fetch http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/non-certified/dists/chinook/diablo/binary-armel/Packages.gz 404 Not Found |
| 23:18.54 | Phantom | W: Couldn't stat source package list http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com chinook/diablo Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com_certified_dists_chinook_diablo_binary-armel_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 23:19.05 | timeless | chinook/diablo? |
| 23:19.12 | Phantom | chinook |
| 23:19.21 | timeless | um, it says chinook/diablo |
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| 23:25.09 | Phantom | I fixed that. But .../chinook/... doesn't work anyway :( |
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| 23:40.21 | Stskeeps | starts 0.7 imagdr |
| 23:40.27 | Stskeeps | imager |
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