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| 00:33.41 | oli | cold night ; p |
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| 02:19.21 | lcuk | merry xmas again folks, i should be sleeping now but was awoken by hooves on the roof or something |
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| 02:21.12 | lcuk | i know timing is bad, but if anyone has any actual experience with clutter could you pm me or something, i have some ponderments |
| 02:25.32 | qwerty12_N800 | goes and drinks a shitload of alka seltzer :( |
| 02:26.39 | lcuk | qwerty12_N800, you shouldnt be awake now |
| 02:26.49 | lcuk | or have you got up to open pressies already :D |
| 02:27.22 | qwerty12_N800 | lcuk, I know :(, I've had a terrible stomach ache through the night, sleep is on & off :) |
| 02:27.34 | lcuk | bleugh not good |
| 02:27.52 | lcuk | well i slept but have something rolling around my head |
| 02:31.51 | lcuk | hmmmmmmm |
| 02:33.08 | lcuk | @ the world in general, am i right in my simple fast effective framework so far, and is rotation essential? answers in a pm :) |
| 02:33.28 | robink | misses lardman (again) |
| 02:33.45 | lcuk | robink, hes quick isnt he |
| 02:33.57 | robink | lcuk: Hmm? |
| 02:34.02 | robink | lcuk: As in he doesn't stay long? |
| 02:34.30 | lcuk | lol, i mean in the way he exits so fast |
| 02:34.41 | robink | lcuk: Ah. |
| 02:35.16 | lcuk | qwerty12_N800, get well soon, cant have you ill at this time of year |
| 02:35.22 | lcuk | im goin trying to sleep again |
| 02:35.35 | qwerty12_N800 | heh thanks lcuk, night |
| 02:35.43 | robink | lcuk: 'night |
| 02:37.36 | lcuk | one more bit @ world in general, the only part i was unhappy with is essentially my own version of the actor class, is it beneficial to follow my heart and continue making mine or do we need 3d libraries |
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| 06:49.29 | RST38h | yawns widely |
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| 07:00.44 | StsN800 | morning |
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| 07:17.27 | Androidfan297 | question |
| 07:18.02 | RST38h | answer |
| 07:18.12 | Vulcanis | elaboration |
| 07:18.31 | StsN800 | confusal |
| 07:18.43 | RST38h | postmortem dissection |
| 07:18.45 | Androidfan297 | whats the diff. between os 2008 and diablo |
| 07:18.55 | RST38h | 2008 is a year |
| 07:19.05 | RST38h | diablo is the name of a wind |
| 07:21.23 | rm_you | wind? |
| 07:21.36 | StsN800 | Androidfan297, diablo is maemo 4.1, chinook is 4.0 |
| 07:21.58 | rm_you | it's like, major release vs. minor release sort of |
| 07:21.58 | StsN800 | morn rm_you |
| 07:22.11 | rm_you | i'm about to sleep actually :P |
| 07:22.23 | rm_you | can be morning for you tho (not sure about your timezone?) |
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| 07:31.58 | x29a | oh bummer |
| 07:32.10 | x29a | my n810 just did a full reset whilst watching youtube |
| 07:32.24 | x29a | maybe its content aware and doesnt like justin timerlake? |
| 07:32.30 | pupnik | that's the flash trojan "reboot to finish installation" |
| 07:32.34 | pupnik | or that.. |
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| 07:38.18 | rm_you | i really need to turn off watchdog entirely |
| 07:38.36 | rm_you | i would rather have to reboot my tablet manually by pulling out the battery than have it randomly reboot or shut off |
| 07:38.45 | rm_you | it makes me nervous |
| 07:39.13 | StsN801 | hehe |
| 07:39.20 | rm_you | at least i'd know "hey, something locked it in software" instead of "crap, did i just bump it and break a connection in hardware? >_>" |
| 07:39.41 | rm_you | i remember for about a month last year i thought it was seriously broken |
| 07:39.57 | rm_you | until i reformatted it and realized that no, i just had bad software packages |
| 07:40.08 | StsN801 | i wonder if wd is good for battery, less time on full cpu |
| 07:40.12 | rm_you | and the backup/restore had kept bringing them back in |
| 07:40.38 | rm_you | prolly, if it hardlocks while you have it put away |
| 07:40.51 | rm_you | otherwise you notice and fix it |
| 07:41.12 | rm_you | hrm. i think ima buy this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811182566 |
| 07:41.16 | rm_you | thoughts? |
| 07:41.29 | rm_you | just move my server hardware out of a broken old desktop pc case |
| 07:41.45 | rm_you | that thing at least actually has room for my 6 hard drives |
| 07:48.43 | pupnik | nice rm_you |
| 07:49.04 | rm_you | ok just ordered that and a hard drive refresh (5x 1Tb Seagates for my new raid) |
| 07:49.09 | rm_you | yay :) |
| 07:49.15 | rm_you | just under $600 for all of that |
| 07:49.33 | rm_you | and a new northbridge fan for my server's motherboard for $3 :) |
| 07:50.20 | rm_you | i've spent so much money in the last like... week... >_> |
| 07:50.30 | rm_you | and 95% of it was on myself <_< |
| 07:50.45 | rm_you | i'm a horrible christmas shopper >_> |
| 07:51.19 | StsN801 | hehe, i've often caught myself not having -time- to shop gadgets |
| 08:03.46 | RST38h | rm_you: that is not on yourself, that is on your computer =) |
| 08:05.06 | StsN801 | the computers, the geeks' mistress |
| 08:06.37 | zevolo | Hi, Does anyone know about to close unclosed alsa device? |
| 08:08.33 | zevolo | i open one from program(snd_pcm_open()), and exit without close it some time. how to close it? or re init the alsa enviroment |
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| 08:09.45 | rm_you | is there a snd_pcm_close() ? |
| 08:09.57 | rm_you | otherwise, no ideas :P |
| 08:10.28 | rm_you | or do you mean, not inside your program/ |
| 08:10.42 | zevolo | hi, rm_you, yes, there is. but i am debug program, and can't exit normal, and mostly exit with ctrl+c |
| 08:10.49 | rm_you | ah |
| 08:10.51 | rm_you | well |
| 08:11.05 | rm_you | for one, you could catch ctrl+c and terminate properly |
| 08:11.17 | rm_you | that would probably be the best idea, really |
| 08:11.52 | zevolo | o. i will try it. but is there any other way? |
| 08:12.08 | rm_you | not sure on the device |
| 08:12.26 | rm_you | might try something involving the script :/etc/init.d/alsa |
| 08:12.31 | rm_you | or something like that |
| 08:12.37 | rm_you | might be /etc/init.d/alsa-utils |
| 08:12.45 | rm_you | been a while since i looked on the device |
| 08:13.03 | rm_you | anyways, bed time for me |
| 08:13.10 | rm_you | christmas in the morning :) |
| 08:13.13 | rm_you | sleeps |
| 08:13.48 | zevolo | ok, thanks rm_you. merry christmas |
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| 08:16.48 | RST38h | zevolo: snd_pcm_close() is there |
| 08:17.14 | RST38h | although ALSA appears to be so buggy that you are not guaranteed anything |
| 08:19.53 | zevolo | thanks RST38h. do you know whether n810 support pulse |
| 08:20.17 | zevolo | about alsa issue, i will try to add process to ctrl+c |
| 08:21.15 | zevolo | and i didn't find any alsa in /etc/init.d/, I tried dsp-init, but it doesn't work |
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| 08:57.51 | stv0 | good morning ;) |
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| 08:58.47 | stv0 | how do i upgrade my n810 from an older sw version (2.2007.51-3) |
| 08:59.03 | stv0 | i think this version dowsn't support ssu |
| 08:59.15 | stv0 | so, do i have to reflash my device? |
| 09:04.38 | zevolo | hi, rm_you, rst38h, i catch the signal, it works to close pcm alsa device. thanks |
| 09:04.46 | RST38h | zevolo: n819 does not support pulse yet |
| 09:05.07 | RST38h | When it does, I am sure it will be screwed up even worse than ALSA though =) |
| 09:05.17 | konttori | stv0: yes, you will have to reflash |
| 09:05.18 | RST38h | s/n819/n810 |
| 09:05.38 | stv0 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Updating_the_tablet_firmware |
| 09:05.47 | stv0 | that's the correct way? |
| 09:06.09 | konttori | yeah |
| 09:07.00 | stv0 | ok thanks |
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| 09:27.59 | stv0 | oh, why do they removed this old virtual keyboard from the current firmware? |
| 09:28.11 | stv0 | i really liked the handwriting feature |
| 09:28.59 | stv0 | is it possible to return to the old halfscreensize keyboard? |
| 09:29.20 | stv0 | now i only have this fullscreen keyboard |
| 09:37.42 | suihkulokki | stv0: somethings gone wrong, the new versions do support both versions of vkb and handwriting |
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| 09:50.00 | qwerty12 | ffs, bootmenu won't load under 2.6.28 |
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| 11:22.08 | aquatix | merry christmas everybody! |
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| 11:37.57 | harryl | merry christmas all :) |
| 11:39.16 | lcuk | erry xmas aqatix |
| 11:40.44 | harryl | can I expose my TF card in my N810 while connected to a PC? |
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| 11:47.39 | lcuk | grrrrr @ xchat on this computer it needs to stop locking up when i open chan list |
| 11:54.37 | qwerty12 | can't decide if I should be happy or sad that I'm booting maemo with a 2.6.28-rc9-omap1 kernel. all I want is the fucking kexec |
| 12:00.59 | lcuk | qwerty12, you feeling better this morning? |
| 12:01.25 | qwerty12 | lcuk, no :(, the pain's still there, I'm just ignoring it for now :/ |
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| 12:02.28 | lcuk | boo |
| 12:02.28 | qwerty12 | grr, why are static binaries such a pita |
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| 12:06.37 | lcuk | merry christmas ssvb :) |
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| 12:16.56 | ssvb | lcuk: thanks, merry christmas everyone |
| 12:19.27 | aquatix | qwerty12: what happened then? |
| 12:19.42 | qwerty12 | aquatix, with what? :) |
| 12:25.49 | aquatix | well, with you i guess, as you seem to suffer some pain |
| 12:26.07 | aquatix | dropped a n8x0 on your toe? ;) |
| 12:26.27 | qwerty12 | aquatix, heh, woke up with a bad stomach ache @ ~2 am. kinda took me back as I haven't had one that bad in a long while :/ |
| 12:26.32 | qwerty12 | aquatix, heh, not yet... |
| 12:26.49 | aquatix | ah, sucks |
| 12:27.14 | aquatix | too much christmas even food? |
| 12:28.12 | aquatix | *eve |
| 12:28.20 | aquatix | should stop kidding |
| 12:28.31 | qwerty12 | hehe, didn't eat much anyway :D |
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| 12:42.20 | GAN800 | Merry Christmas. :) |
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| 12:50.45 | RST38h | MC, qwerty,aquatix,gan |
| 12:51.12 | qwerty12_N800 | Merry Christmas all |
| 12:58.18 | lcuk | merry xmas, how do i close all other scratchbox sessions? apparantly i have one open but i closed its console window and its still telling me its there |
| 12:59.29 | qwerty12_N800 | run sb-menu and choose the last option (or thereabouts) and enter 9 as the kill signal |
| 13:00.46 | lcuk | task manager (or whatever its called ) killed it :D |
| 13:01.48 | lcuk | right, time to vanish again ,going to pub |
| 13:01.50 | lcuk | have fun folks |
| 13:01.56 | lcuk | ssvb, thanks again :) |
| 13:02.08 | lcuk | (and you qwerty12_N800, get well soon) |
| 13:02.23 | qwerty12_N800 | thanks lcuk |
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| 13:18.04 | aquatix | is gone |
| 13:18.07 | aquatix | happy days all |
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| 13:37.15 | lcuk | ok, so i didnt get to the pub yet, but im going now: i managed this though :) http://liqbase.net/maemo5_installed.png |
| 13:38.15 | pupnik | enjoy lcuk |
| 13:38.30 | qwerty12_N800 | Nice :). I want to install the sdk but too much sb targets already and not enough space :( |
| 13:39.12 | lcuk | well its all nice and clean, first time ive installed sb or anything much :) quite pleased with my xmas presents so far |
| 13:39.37 | lcuk | bb after drinking |
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| 13:52.35 | timeless | qwerty/aquatix: ping |
| 13:52.39 | timeless | anyone here know Tim Steiner? |
| 13:52.47 | timeless | or is anyone here able to try something for me? |
| 13:52.50 | timeless | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1925 |
| 13:52.55 | timeless | needs a couple of details |
| 13:54.33 | qwerty12_N800 | timeless, the guy doesn't know what he is doing. http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17715 |
| 13:55.06 | timeless | thanks |
| 13:55.24 | timeless | squishes bug |
| 14:17.07 | RST38h | lcuk: Got a laptop? |
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| 15:53.54 | mike_xcr | hi all |
| 15:54.11 | mike_xcr | i'll connect my USB mouse to n800 - i can? |
| 15:54.20 | mike_xcr | (sorry for my english...) |
| 15:54.36 | mike_xcr | current i get debian lenny on sdhc memory card |
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| 16:02.10 | t_s_o | the tablet will register the mouse, but you will not get a pointer on screen, nokia have removed some of the needed graphics iirc... |
| 16:02.58 | GAN800 | Not removed, made invisible. |
| 16:03.06 | mike_xcr | but maybe i can install other software for mouse... on debian lenny :( |
| 16:03.09 | qwerty12_N800 | oh, they're there, just it is set to use a transparent cursor |
| 16:03.36 | timeless | the browser actually uses a cursor occasionally |
| 16:03.52 | timeless | (or maybe it fakes it, whichever) |
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| 16:12.37 | mike_xcr | if i connect my mouse to n800, dmesg view: input: USB Optical mouse as /class/input/input4 |
| 16:12.43 | mike_xcr | but not working / |
| 16:12.44 | mike_xcr | :/ |
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| 17:47.25 | alex_ | Does anyone know where I can find the 2.6.16 kernel .config file for the 770 Kernel. I've searched the web for some days now and the only link is dead. |
| 17:49.46 | suihkulokki | alex_: make n770_defconfig |
| 17:49.54 | mike_xcr | alex_: download linux-2.6.16.X and try arch/arm/configs/ |
| 17:50.30 | alex_ | thx |
| 17:51.42 | suihkulokki | not any 2.6.16.X will do, you need the maemo kernel fro 2.6.16.x |
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| 17:53.08 | alex_ | I use the one which I get running apt-get source ... in scratchbox |
| 17:53.26 | qwerty12 | gregale sdk? |
| 17:53.29 | suihkulokki | that whould work yes |
| 17:53.38 | oli | how to install maemo-stars on diablo? installer says it needs hildon-libs0 and libdbus-1-2 |
| 17:53.50 | alex_ | actually I need the option.ko module for my UMTS Stick |
| 17:54.34 | GAN8001 | oli, API break. |
| 17:55.12 | mike_xcr | oli: what is it "maemo-stars" ? |
| 17:56.18 | oli | mike_xcr: some kind of astronomy program which shows you actual view of the sky with stars and other objects on it :) |
| 17:56.33 | mike_xcr | :) |
| 18:05.38 | oli | ... trying 'mephemeris' instead |
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| 18:06.15 | bef0rd | Hola |
| 18:07.25 | alex_ | And now I get insmod: cannot insert '/home/option.ko': Invalid module format (-1): Exec format error |
| 18:10.01 | alex_ | I compiled it with gcc 3.4.4 also provided with scratchbox |
| 18:11.26 | alex_ | Is there any switch for the exe format or is this error message produced by something else |
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| 18:38.16 | Tu13es | anyone running nitdroid? |
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| 19:27.49 | solca | Tu13es: any problem with NITdroid? |
| 19:28.03 | Tu13es | solca: no major problems (that aren't documented, at least) |
| 19:28.07 | Tu13es | just not sure what to do with it :P |
| 19:28.46 | solca | Tu13es: ah ok |
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| 20:26.48 | Stskeeps | evening |
| 20:27.49 | qwerty12_N800 | hi Stskeeps |
| 20:29.41 | Stskeeps | finally back in my own apartment, but with gf's parents visiting :P |
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| 21:15.08 | t_s_o | cute, the vlc icon dons a "santa hat" during the holiday |
| 21:15.49 | Stskeeps | yeah, noticed that too |
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| 21:19.25 | mavhc | I just thought it was the new icon |
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| 21:23.13 | t_s_o | ? |
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| 21:23.58 | Stskeeps | think he's just off for the holidays? :P |
| 21:24.02 | robink | Probly |
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| 21:44.51 | stv0 | hi |
| 21:45.07 | stv0 | somebody here who got tiemu working? |
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| 22:43.43 | merkuralex | Is there a scratchbox equivalent for windows? |
| 22:44.05 | GAN8001 | http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/ |
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| 22:45.26 | merkuralex | Very nice thank you for the info! |
| 22:46.44 | b-man | hello everyone, hope you had a great christmas! |
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| 22:48.50 | merkuralex | Indeed same to you! |
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