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| 00:15.44 | born2wonder | so any updates on when the first mer installer will be available for testing |
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| 00:38.55 | AStorm | ok, so no xinetd for me? |
| 00:39.32 | moontiger | does anybody know what happened in the new update? |
| 00:40.23 | disco_stu | moontiger, with the SSU? |
| 00:40.34 | moontiger | yes |
| 00:41.04 | disco_stu | now everything is faster due improvements in the X server |
| 00:41.15 | moontiger | serious? |
| 00:41.22 | disco_stu | yes |
| 00:41.26 | moontiger | is rotation built in now too? |
| 00:41.40 | disco_stu | rotation no |
| 00:41.43 | moontiger | doh! |
| 00:41.57 | moontiger | so the ssu was just an x update? |
| 00:42.16 | disco_stu | and a lot of other things |
| 00:42.30 | moontiger | i couldnt find a list of fixes anywhere ... is there one? |
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| 00:43.08 | disco_stu | guess so |
| 00:43.15 | Wolfpaws | Hi, all you happy people! I have a question: Is it possible to resize the root partition on N810? |
| 00:43.42 | AStorm | hmm, no |
| 00:43.48 | AStorm | you can make a new one |
| 00:44.13 | moontiger | wow ur right it is snappier |
| 00:44.15 | moontiger | thnx |
| 00:44.21 | AStorm | it's 256 MB of NAND flash, so it's not a good idea anyway |
| 00:44.34 | disco_stu | resizing will fuck your inodes up, lol |
| 00:44.59 | disco_stu | AStorm, i think he has clonned to sd |
| 00:45.35 | Wolfpaws | Cute. I just want a bigger root partition :( |
| 00:47.28 | AStorm | ok, so, who'll build me xinetd? |
| 00:47.34 | disco_stu | Wolfpaws, have you clonned? |
| 00:48.02 | AStorm | ah, btw |
| 00:48.16 | AStorm | old ukeyboard layouts are broken by the update |
| 00:48.23 | AStorm | they need one themselves |
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| 00:49.37 | Wolfpaws | disco_stu: Why would I want to do that? |
| 00:50.27 | disco_stu | my root partition has 1.7gb thanks to clonning :p |
| 00:50.47 | disco_stu | and the hole thing goes faster |
| 00:50.55 | Wolfpaws | drools |
| 00:51.02 | Wolfpaws | Any HOWTO's? |
| 00:51.26 | disco_stu | ~clone-to-sd |
| 00:51.47 | disco_stu | infobot, ! |
| 00:51.48 | infobot | rumour has it, ! is what my big sibling dpkg uses instead of ~, or not, or what dpkg uses dumbass |
| 00:51.48 | Wolfpaws | I think, that the bot is dead... |
| 00:52.19 | disco_stu | ~curse infobot |
| 00:52.20 | infobot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, infobot ! |
| 00:52.36 | disco_stu | ~clone |
| 00:52.37 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, clone is a clone card - i.e. a worthless, unreliable piece of junk. Is all that extra headache really worth the few dollars you're about to save? |
| 00:52.37 | Wolfpaws | hahahaha! |
| 00:52.50 | disco_stu | ~clone-sd |
| 00:53.13 | disco_stu | i'll better google for it |
| 00:54.06 | Wolfpaws | <infobot> Factoid search of 'clone' by key (13): bk clone ;; maemoclone ;; fpse clone ;; cyclone ;; mcclone ;; hdbench clone ;; clone #DEL# ;; ale clone ;; cmd: clone (.*?) ;; ale-clone ;; clone ;; jargon clone ;; i've written an irc clone. <-- Win xD |
| 00:54.20 | disco_stu | lol |
| 00:55.28 | Wolfpaws | I'm used to deal with blootbot, so this is easy :] |
| 00:55.52 | Wolfpaws | I'm not sure, what should I be looking at? maemoclone? |
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| 00:56.33 | disco_stu | Wolfpaws, |
| 00:56.36 | disco_stu | ~boot-sd |
| 00:56.37 | infobot | boot-sd is probably https://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card |
| 00:56.47 | disco_stu | there you have |
| 00:56.53 | Wolfpaws | Awesome <3 |
| 00:57.37 | disco_stu | booting is faster, because internal memory is compressed |
| 00:57.52 | disco_stu | writing is faster too |
| 00:58.24 | Wolfpaws | One would think, that internal memory should be faster... |
| 00:58.46 | disco_stu | yes..but no |
| 00:59.20 | disco_stu | compression uses cpu ticks |
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| 01:00.32 | Wolfpaws | how come, that everything is compressed? I believed, that everything is uncompressed. The kernel is small enough to fit on the disk... Right? |
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| 01:01.29 | disco_stu | Wolfpaws, jffs is compressed. kernel image is small but the hole filesystem is big |
| 01:02.14 | Wolfpaws | bookmarks that thingy |
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| 01:02.43 | disco_stu | goes to dinner |
| 01:03.25 | Wolfpaws | Another question: SDK under AMD64? I've found a few tutorials, followed them, but I keep getting errors... |
| 01:05.02 | Wolfpaws | Anyways... Food time. Back in an hour or 2 |
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| 01:36.52 | wjt | Wolfpaws: on my amd64 machine i have a VM in which i've installed x86 debian, and then installed the regular x86 scratchbox packages |
| 01:36.58 | wjt | you can ssh -X to it to get a xephyr out |
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| 03:13.10 | Wolfpaws | wjt: Dop you need X for the scratchbox? |
| 03:17.31 | hugo33 | Xephyr, surely? |
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| 03:38.51 | dick-richardson | anyone have findmine installed? how do you mark bombs? |
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| 04:36.14 | cactaur | Has anyone here tried installing mgcal? |
| 04:36.39 | cactaur | Well, using it, for that matter. |
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| 04:40.29 | cactaur | It does WEIRD things to my tablet. |
| 04:42.14 | johnx | what kind of weird things? |
| 04:43.31 | cactaur | When I select it as an applet, it causes my desktop to restart, and makes the statusbar default. I have to turn the tablet on and off to restore it. |
| 04:44.17 | cactaur | I was wondering if anyone else was having that weird behavior. |
| 04:45.47 | johnx | yeah, that's the standard behavior if an applet crashes |
| 04:48.06 | cactaur | Ah, in that case, is there someone whose mgCal doesn't crash? |
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| 07:24.28 | yigal | I am attempting to install the vm but my linux distro. archlinux doesn't have vmplayer working properly. Can virtualbox be used instead? |
| 07:35.25 | yigal | ah I see it has nothing to do with archlinux but most likely with 2.6.27 removing kernel_thread |
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| 07:46.47 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 07:59.13 | StsN800 | morning |
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| 08:33.49 | aquatix | morning all |
| 08:36.48 | lcuk | morning jaffa, Stskeeps , aquatix |
| 08:37.13 | zakkm | Hi Lcuk :) |
| 08:37.39 | lcuk | and zakkm :) |
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| 08:39.37 | lcuk | heh, i just searched pc world for "ouchscreen" do they have razerwire around the edges |
| 08:42.59 | lcuk | for compatability with linux am i best to take a livecd into the store? |
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| 09:02.55 | Jaffa | lcuk: if they'll let you |
| 09:02.59 | Jaffa | lcuk: take an Ubuntu one |
| 09:05.29 | lcuk | heh yeah thats always the kicker |
| 09:06.10 | lcuk | jaffa, have you put any thought into a new version of your movie transcoder thingy? |
| 09:09.31 | Jaffa | had a few thoughts about an improved GUI, but hasn't done any coding, since I typically use the cli version |
| 09:09.52 | Jaffa | I've got a few patches submitted to improve subtitle support, which I should integrate |
| 09:12.51 | Jaffa | Why? What'd you like done? :) |
| 09:13.24 | lcuk | im just thinking about integration with desktop and your app is one of the primary reasons why people need to |
| 09:14.01 | lcuk | if we were to plan and make a desktop component it would be beneficial to have movie coding builtin :) |
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| 09:16.02 | lcuk | but anyway jaffa, thats for another day :) i have to catch up with what i missed yesterday. ill bbl |
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| 09:29.55 | aquatix | anybody knows how i can find the maintainer of the libgnutls13 package? |
| 09:30.16 | qwerty12 | The one in which repo? |
| 09:30.26 | aquatix | diablo |
| 09:30.34 | aquatix | i have an issue with claws-mail |
| 09:30.57 | aquatix | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3801 - but it turned out a libgnutls issue |
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| 09:33.43 | qwerty12 | I'll assume you mean the one in extras. Ed Bartosh seems to be the current maintainer of it. |
| 09:34.46 | aquatix | apt-cache policy says diablo/free |
| 09:34.55 | aquatix | not extras |
| 09:35.37 | qwerty12 | It's not in any other repo (except extras-devel) ;) |
| 09:36.00 | aquatix | hm |
| 09:37.47 | aquatix | how do i check that btw? |
| 09:38.29 | qwerty12 | I assumed it would be in extras due to claws being in extras |
| 09:38.31 | aquatix | as apt-cache madison also just says "libgnutls13 | 2.0.4-3maemo3 | http://repository.maemo.org diablo/free Packages |
| 09:38.36 | aquatix | ah |
| 09:38.47 | aquatix | good guess i'd say |
| 09:43.43 | RST38h | moo all |
| 09:43.55 | qwerty12 | moo RST38h |
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| 09:48.45 | Meiz_n810 | any idea what took my n810s cpu down to 330mHz 2min ago? |
| 09:49.00 | qwerty12 | Listening to music |
| 09:49.04 | Meiz_n810 | ok |
| 09:49.06 | aquatix | hey RST38h |
| 09:49.28 | Meiz_n810 | why it "underclocks" the cup? |
| 09:49.40 | Meiz_n810 | *cpu |
| 09:49.58 | aquatix | because of the dsp i think |
| 09:50.09 | qwerty12 | It uses the DSP which runs at 220 iirc but due to voltage issues or other, the CPU & DSP both cannot run at full speed |
| 09:50.27 | Meiz_n810 | ok |
| 09:51.04 | qwerty12 | You can build a new kernel which reduces the speed of the DSP (but still works well I have to say) and can still have the CPU running at full speed. Or you can apply ph5's patch to the kernel and let you toggle the dsp speed |
| 09:51.59 | Jaffa | lcuk: kinda like Conduit (from what I've seen of screenshots, that looks quite cool) |
| 09:53.21 | Meiz_n810 | qwerty12: thanks for the cool desktop effects :P |
| 09:53.55 | Jaffa | lcuk: http://www.conduit-project.org/ |
| 09:54.02 | qwerty12 | Meiz_n810, I stole the idea from the movial guys - I just recompiled for diablo :P |
| 09:54.18 | qwerty12 | (and packaged transset-df) |
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| 09:54.22 | Meiz_n810 | whatever :P |
| 09:54.30 | Meiz_n810 | they are cool |
| 09:55.07 | Meiz_n810 | i set fading to to half sec, now even new windows coming up are fading :P |
| 09:55.20 | Jaffa | wassthis? |
| 09:55.31 | aquatix | Meiz_n810: on your device? |
| 09:55.45 | Meiz_n810 | my tablet is n810 |
| 09:55.56 | qwerty12 | Jaffa, I compiled xcompmgr & transset-df |
| 09:56.05 | Jaffa | ooh |
| 09:56.06 | Jaffa | videos? |
| 09:56.06 | Meiz_n810 | and becuse of the shadows, panels look like they are in the air |
| 09:56.09 | qwerty12 | for the tablets, qole has them in his repo |
| 09:56.25 | qwerty12 | Jaffa, got screenshots: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=247743 |
| 09:56.32 | qwerty12 | (qole stole meh packages!) |
| 09:56.33 | Meiz_n810 | Jaffa: why, you can try it yourself :P |
| 09:57.12 | Jaffa | Ah, I'd seen them - but screenshots didn't look that useful ;-) |
| 09:57.49 | qwerty12 | It's effects - what useful purpose do they have? :P |
| 09:58.02 | aquatix | well, in the screenshots they look cluttery :) |
| 09:58.12 | aquatix | compiz on my desktop is quite useful |
| 09:58.24 | Jaffa | Drop shadows can be useful from a usability point of view. Stacking lots of widgets on top of each other demonstrates capability but not how pretty they could look ;-) |
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| 09:59.34 | aquatix | heh, indeed |
| 10:02.54 | qwerty12 | wouldn't mind sending handwriting samples wrt to the drawing calculator program but they'll probably shiver at seeing my handwriting :/ |
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| 10:04.18 | aquatix | qwerty12: heh, you haven't seen my handwriting then |
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| 10:05.48 | qwerty12 | aquatix, hehe, if there was a competition, I'd end up beating you :P |
| 10:06.05 | aquatix | :) |
| 10:06.44 | aquatix | my handwriting improved when i started using a gel pen for putting things on paper, but maybe that is because it forces me to slow down just a tiny bit |
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| 10:07.26 | aquatix | doesn't help me with writing digitally of course |
| 10:07.35 | qwerty12 | :) |
| 10:07.40 | lcuk | do you write digitally with your wrist in the air |
| 10:08.08 | aquatix | yes, as i'm generally doing that while holding a device in my hands |
| 10:08.26 | aquatix | but i'm really happy with my n810's kb ;) |
| 10:08.31 | lcuk | cos thats the biggest change i see with people, they have nowhere to rest on, even small paper notepads have that problem |
| 10:08.34 | aquatix | so i only write on my palm |
| 10:08.41 | aquatix | yep |
| 10:08.53 | lcuk | thats what my crate is there for ;) |
| 10:08.57 | aquatix | that doesn't help indeed; you need some balance |
| 10:09.58 | lcuk | ive wondered for a while why t_s_o said the touchscreen is slippery and makes his writing go all over the place |
| 10:10.00 | RST38h | aquztix: switch to quills =) |
| 10:10.15 | RST38h | Switching to ink and quills will do wonders to your calligraphic skills |
| 10:10.40 | lcuk | but still not raised up in the air it wont |
| 10:10.42 | lcuk | gorilla arm |
| 10:10.50 | aquatix | RST38h: lol |
| 10:10.53 | qwerty12 | hands lcuk a shaver |
| 10:11.02 | aquatix | RST38h: i'll stick with keys, thanks very much ;) |
| 10:11.20 | aquatix | but i can recommend those gel pens |
| 10:11.22 | lcuk | RST38h, ive never had any luck with real ink, as a left hander anything slow drying leaves skidmarks |
| 10:11.28 | aquatix | and black looks nice too (imho) |
| 10:12.46 | RST38h | lcuk: Have to do it with your right hand or switch to hebrew |
| 10:13.09 | lcuk | i did some lateral thinking and just used a pencil for years :) |
| 10:13.18 | RST38h | is a lefty too, but had to relearn at school |
| 10:13.33 | RST38h | pencil also smears =) |
| 10:13.38 | lcuk | and my writing style has been in small (tablet sized) columns |
| 10:13.51 | RST38h | shit, thumb does not allow to load >255 contants |
| 10:13.57 | lcuk | strange how ive wrote as if ive had a tablet for so long |
| 10:14.17 | aquatix | lcuk: pre-destined :) |
| 10:14.21 | lcuk | :) |
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| 10:25.01 | lcuk | jaffa, oooh you are right |
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| 10:37.22 | qwerty12 | AStorm, around? |
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| 11:24.36 | roadies | anyone gotten apache (httpd) running with PHP so httpd will run index.php files? If so how |
| 11:24.54 | roadies | oh, this to run on a n810 |
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| 11:28.38 | dev | roadies: probably DirectoryIndex index.php is what you are looking for |
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| 11:41.07 | aquatix | qwerty12: hm, Ed Bartosh can't remember building libgnutls13 |
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| 11:42.09 | qwerty12 | aquatix, he's the one who uploaded it to the autobuilder ("Uploader: ed_" : https://garage.maemo.org/builder/diablo/June.2008/gnutls13_2.0.4-3maemo3/summary.log) and if you look at the changelog for the package, his name is at the top |
| 11:42.18 | aquatix | kk |
| 11:42.27 | aquatix | ``I'm not maintaining this package. I don't even remember that I built |
| 11:42.27 | aquatix | it. Most probably I took it from Debian and rebuilt for Maemo. |
| 11:42.28 | aquatix | Feel free to replace it with any suitable for you version.'' |
| 11:43.05 | roadies | dev: unfortunately what I think is missing from the n810 http distro is the php libraries |
| 11:44.41 | qwerty12 | roadies, you may want to look at http://internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=235084#post235084 |
| 11:44.46 | aquatix | qwerty12: maybe i should try to compile libgnutls26 for maemo and convince the claws-mail maintainer to compile against that one |
| 11:45.01 | qwerty12 | aquatix, sounds like a plan :) |
| 11:45.33 | aquatix | aquatix.projects++ |
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| 11:48.35 | aquatix | qwerty12: i guess i need to install the complete sdk to compile that library? |
| 11:48.48 | qwerty12 | aquatix, I guess so :) |
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| 12:01.12 | roadies | qwerty12: thanks again unfortunately this build of lighhtpWeb doesnt run on OS2008, that is it wont install...how very fruntrating...although I prefer using apache looks like I'm force to try nginx to see if it has a working php |
| 12:02.34 | qwerty12 | roadies, :(. I think you may have another problem as the author of that package says he has tested it successfully on diablo :/. Personally, I've never tried it so I wouldn't know :( |
| 12:03.12 | _nuke_ | hi |
| 12:03.47 | _nuke_ | someone has just try os2008 in nokia 770? |
| 12:04.32 | Meiz__n810 | _nuke_: there is diablo HE for 770?? |
| 12:04.34 | Meiz__n810 | :P |
| 12:04.51 | StsN800 | no, only chinook |
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| 12:05.09 | roadies | qwerty12, hummm did I miss where he says OS2008, the blog date is May 2007 did OS2008 come out back then? |
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| 12:05.39 | qwerty12 | roadies, hmm? the post I pointed you to has the date of 10-20-2008 |
| 12:07.12 | relaxis_ | does a patched driver with working injection exist for the n770/800/810? |
| 12:07.27 | roadies | qwerty12: and you are very correct, I looked at the wrong date... all I know is when the deb file runs it fails, in the past this has meant the build didnt match the OS version..thanks for catching the date for me |
| 12:07.32 | Asynic | Giving away 20 world of warcraft gold for users to join our new vent server. Must stay for atleast 5 minutes to receive. Please use your WOW character name. Details: v62.darkstarllc.com:4118 |
| 12:08.58 | roadies | qwerty12; note my OS2008 was just installed aka version: 5.2008-43-7 |
| 12:09.11 | relaxis_ | hello? |
| 12:09.33 | roadies | qwerty12: have you had any experience with nginx web server? |
| 12:10.18 | Jaffa | lcuk: I usually am; but what about this time? ;-) |
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| 12:41.50 | roadies | qwerty12: well I think the trail has come to an end.... even nginx wont run the issue appears to be, no available distribution of either apache/php or nginx/php for OS2008 "Diablo".... |
| 12:43.15 | qwerty12_N800 | :/ |
| 12:47.46 | Stskeeps | stretches |
| 12:47.59 | qwerty12_N800 | hi Stskeeps |
| 12:48.13 | Stskeeps | morning qwerty12_N800 |
| 12:49.44 | Stskeeps | any new intersting discoveries |
| 12:49.45 | Stskeeps | ? |
| 12:49.47 | Stskeeps | +e |
| 12:59.06 | aquatix | qwerty12_N800: hm, any idea where i can download the source of that libgnutls13 file? |
| 12:59.11 | aquatix | *package |
| 13:00.42 | roadies | all: When you 1st configure a n810 it ask you for a hostname...what file is that installed into? |
| 13:00.55 | aquatix | i think /etc/hostname |
| 13:02.50 | qwerty12_N800 | aquatix, http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/diablo/free/source/g/gnutls13/ |
| 13:03.13 | aquatix | qwerty12_N800: check, thanks |
| 13:03.33 | aquatix | i was already fiddling around with the url, but clearly need some coffee first |
| 13:04.14 | aquatix | if i patch that library, can i request someone here to build it for me? |
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| 13:32.28 | Meiz__n810 | xorg-problem seems to be fixed in Mer? |
| 13:36.31 | Stskeeps | yeah, think so |
| 13:37.04 | AStorm | hey |
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| 13:37.35 | AStorm | anyone who could build me xinetd package around? |
| 13:39.16 | aquatix | or a libgnutls26? |
| 13:39.40 | aquatix | would be awesome if that went into extras so claws-mail can build against that |
| 13:40.16 | AStorm | meh, claws can be built against openssl |
| 13:40.27 | AStorm | or older gnutls |
| 13:40.42 | qwerty12_N800 | AStorm, should have responded to my ping earlier >.<, now i'm on the N800 |
| 13:40.50 | aquatix | yeah, but the current libgnutls13 bugs against my self-signed certificate |
| 13:41.15 | AStorm | you pinged me? next time, do so through /msg or notify |
| 13:41.25 | AStorm | my session will catch that |
| 13:41.29 | aquatix | AStorm: btw, since 3.6.0, claws builds against libgnutls by default |
| 13:41.37 | AStorm | yes |
| 13:41.43 | AStorm | but openssl still works |
| 13:41.47 | aquatix | hm |
| 13:42.46 | AStorm | qwerty12_N800, when you're back on PC, please build it, it's tiny and all |
| 13:43.28 | qwerty12_N800 | AStorm, i've already built it but the deb is on my computer :/ |
| 13:44.39 | AStorm | ahha |
| 13:44.46 | AStorm | and no shell in sight? |
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| 13:46.18 | qwerty12_N800 | no :/. I don't have openssh installed on my comp |
| 13:46.33 | AStorm | hm |
| 13:47.07 | AStorm | what's the eta? |
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| 13:47.43 | qwerty12_N800 | I'll be back on it in ~2 hours, hopefully someone can build you a package sooner... |
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| 14:14.01 | pupnik_ | is anyone making matchbox/hildon for Angstrom? |
| 14:14.18 | pupnik_ | or am I talking nonsense? |
| 14:16.24 | jagernot | hi Meiz__n810 |
| 14:25.34 | GAN800 | pupmik, well, Mer for Pandora. |
| 14:25.46 | GAN800 | s/mik/nik/ |
| 14:26.00 | pupnik | Mer = ? |
| 14:26.33 | GAN800 | ~mer |
| 14:26.34 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, mer is http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer_Blueprint_New and http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer_Blueprint |
| 14:28.11 | pupnik | ty |
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| 14:36.29 | GAN800 | has too much to do in the next few days for being an unpaid volunteer. :P |
| 14:39.43 | derf | Welcome to open source. |
| 14:39.46 | derf | That's the way it works. |
| 14:40.57 | Jaffa | GAN800: Step #1, as Tim said in his email, reviewing that questionnaire ;-) |
| 14:42.06 | GAN800 | Jaffa, it's amazing that my workload somehow went UP after the end of the semester. ;) |
| 14:44.02 | Jaffa | heh |
| 14:44.19 | Jaffa | The great thing about graduating is working a 9-to-5 job which (most of the time) stops when you leave the office. |
| 14:44.28 | Jaffa | Unfortunately, you get less time during the day for random hackery |
| 14:45.07 | aquatix | Jaffa: yep |
| 14:45.18 | derf | That depends on what you do. |
| 14:45.23 | aquatix | is doing 9-5 job *and* graduating |
| 14:45.40 | aquatix | maybe i should get a life |
| 14:45.43 | aquatix | or get off irc ;) |
| 14:46.20 | Jaffa | derf: true - there were days at IBM I did nothing but hack on my own Linux-kernel based OS :) |
| 14:46.34 | derf | Jaffa: I meant more the 9-5 part. |
| 14:47.16 | derf | I regularly work 12 hour days. Or more. Not to mention travel. |
| 14:47.37 | aquatix | works 9-6 with 2 hours travel per day |
| 14:47.47 | aquatix | derf: 12 sounds a bit much? |
| 14:48.01 | Jaffa | leaves the house at about 07:15 and gets back in about 20:00 |
| 14:48.31 | derf | Travel is in to other cities, not commuting. |
| 14:48.34 | derf | *as in |
| 14:48.35 | aquatix | leaves house at about 07:45 and gets back at about 18:45 |
| 14:48.51 | Jaffa | derf: and, as you say, I'm going to be doing some design/spec work over Christmas so that the world doesn't fall apart whne I'm on paternity leave in January :( |
| 14:49.16 | aquatix | Jaffa: you're about to be a dad? |
| 14:51.11 | Jaffa | #2 should be arriving before Jan 11th |
| 14:51.26 | aquatix | ooh :) |
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| 15:41.26 | Stskeeps | wtf @ 16000 views on nitdroid |
| 15:41.40 | johnx | got linked from someplace I bet |
| 15:41.46 | johnx | engadget or gizmodo maybe? |
| 15:41.54 | Stskeeps | maybe |
| 15:41.55 | Stskeeps | still |
| 15:42.00 | Stskeeps | is setting up scratchbox builder atm |
| 15:42.12 | Stskeeps | and learning there's something called dpkg holds too.. |
| 15:42.33 | johnx | didn't know about dpkg holds? |
| 15:43.00 | Stskeeps | nop |
| 15:43.00 | johnx | is about to go to bed. got a full day of work tomorrow :/ |
| 15:43.07 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 15:43.15 | Stskeeps | im slightly hungover and waiting for gf to cook a good meal |
| 15:43.23 | johnx | bastard :P |
| 15:43.35 | Stskeeps | hehe |
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| 15:43.45 | Stskeeps | have a good sleep then :) |
| 15:44.17 | johnx | thanks. have a good meal. I'll probably feel like doing some hacking after work at least |
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| 16:12.27 | Stskeeps | grr @ dpkg |
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| 16:34.58 | AStorm | qwerty12, so, could you give me that xinetd please? |
| 16:35.17 | qwerty12 | AStorm, didn't you get my /notice? But anyway http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/xinetd_2.3.14-7_armel.deb |
| 16:35.18 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, it's too bad it's not April 1st or we could roll our own package management. ;) |
| 16:35.39 | AStorm | hmm, I did not. |
| 16:36.10 | AStorm | ah, forgot to enable resending priv :> |
| 16:36.21 | AStorm | anyway, let's check it out |
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| 16:36.53 | Stskeeps | GAN800: yeah. :P |
| 16:38.00 | AStorm | qwerty12, hmm, failed |
| 16:38.06 | Stskeeps | is trying to beat scratchbox into shape |
| 16:38.25 | qwerty12 | AStorm, dunno then, I just did a dpkg-buildpackage. I don't have the time to check it properly. |
| 16:38.35 | AStorm | no libwrap0 |
| 16:38.42 | AStorm | could you give it too? |
| 16:38.44 | qwerty12 | oh, that's easy. it's in extras. |
| 16:38.52 | AStorm | ah |
| 16:39.51 | AStorm | thanks :) |
| 16:40.14 | AStorm | let's see now how well does that cope with autostarting ssh tunnels |
| 16:40.41 | qwerty12 | I did remove the dependency on update-inetd though, update-inetd needs perl & debconf - both things which do not work well on the tablets :P |
| 16:40.47 | qwerty12 | or Maemo rather |
| 16:40.52 | AStorm | hm |
| 16:40.57 | AStorm | perl does work |
| 16:41.04 | AStorm | debconf is another matter |
| 16:41.21 | AStorm | update-inetd is not needed |
| 16:41.25 | qwerty12 | indeed but it's a heavily cut down version that comes with the tablets (and it's fair seeing why) |
| 16:41.40 | AStorm | mhm |
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| 16:43.44 | Stskeeps | 'lo b-man |
| 16:43.52 | b-man | hello. |
| 16:43.57 | qwerty12 | hi b-man |
| 16:44.03 | b-man | hi |
| 16:44.53 | b-man | i've spent 4 hours straight trying to debug this installer but still have had no luck. :P |
| 16:44.56 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 16:44.58 | Stskeeps | what's the issue? |
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| 16:45.20 | b-man | a syntax error at line 366 |
| 16:45.32 | Stskeeps | which says what, and what is line 366? |
| 16:46.21 | b-man | it said that i'm missing ';;' but it is in there. |
| 16:46.44 | Stskeeps | upload the script somewhere and i'll take a look |
| 16:47.09 | Stskeeps | i'm going insane spending too much time in scratchbox's company anyway |
| 16:47.39 | b-man | thanks!, i'll pm you the script over at ITT. :D |
| 16:48.04 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 16:48.09 | Stskeeps | put it on rafb.net/paste instead |
| 16:48.15 | Stskeeps | if that's how it is :P |
| 16:51.51 | b-man | i'm uploading right now. :) |
| 16:52.06 | b-man | http://rafb.net/p/SMutUx92.html |
| 16:52.42 | Stskeeps | thanks |
| 16:53.08 | AStorm | qwerty12, do we have an autossh package? |
| 16:53.22 | qwerty12 | AStorm, dunno |
| 16:53.23 | Stskeeps | b-man: line 357,, .. "ek"? |
| 16:53.40 | AStorm | it's ubuntu's |
| 16:54.01 | b-man | ? |
| 16:54.08 | Stskeeps | b-man: there's a 'ek' on line 357 |
| 16:54.42 | b-man | oh #@!, woops! |
| 16:55.07 | Stskeeps | anyway, can you upload the raw file somewhere as i suspect the indentation is kinda messed up :P i certainly can't find my way around the case's |
| 16:55.26 | AStorm | qwerty12, so, could you build that too? |
| 16:55.34 | Stskeeps | -beyond that- it looks good |
| 16:55.56 | Stskeeps | and you don't need to do export SOMETHING= to do $SOMETHING |
| 16:56.02 | Stskeeps | SOMETHING= is enough |
| 16:56.19 | qwerty12 | AStorm, hrm, i'm kinda busy trying to fix the scrollbar bug in osso-xterm where it won't save the setting that you want it gone |
| 16:56.44 | AStorm | hm |
| 16:56.55 | AStorm | anyone else? |
| 16:57.37 | AStorm | (for now I can make do with xinetd) |
| 16:57.58 | b-man | @Stskeeps; i'll e-mail you the file, if i can recall, is your e-mail cvm@au.dk? |
| 16:58.09 | Stskeeps | @cs.au.dk, yeah |
| 16:58.17 | Stskeeps | i might vanish in a bit, gf done in shower :P |
| 16:58.17 | b-man | k |
| 17:03.26 | GAN8001 | Nokia IP's fail at Wikipedia. |
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| 17:03.59 | GAN8001 | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Maemo&diff=prev&oldid=258996256 |
| 17:05.40 | Stskeeps | hehe |
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| 17:15.10 | Stskeeps | b-man: i'm just going to clean it up a bit if it's ok |
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| 17:32.58 | Stskeeps | lo rm_you |
| 17:33.16 | rm_you | lo Sts |
| 17:33.38 | qwerty12 | heh, hi rm_you. still busy as ever? :) |
| 17:33.45 | rm_you | semester is over! |
| 17:33.51 | rm_you | i'm back home for two weeks |
| 17:34.01 | rm_you | johnx claims to have tasks to assign me for Mer :P |
| 17:34.06 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 17:34.06 | qwerty12 | hehe |
| 17:34.11 | rm_you | hehe |
| 17:34.21 | Stskeeps | rm_you: http://picasaweb.google.com/meizirkki/NokiaN810Mer <- saw advanced backlight's prominent position in all of our screenshots? ;) |
| 17:34.40 | lcuk | fullscreen tablet drawing is pretty :$ |
| 17:34.52 | rm_you | lol nice |
| 17:34.57 | rm_you | hey lcuk |
| 17:35.19 | lcuk | hiya rm :) |
| 17:35.41 | rm_you | Stskeeps: http://picasaweb.google.com/meizirkki/NokiaN810Mer#5278100604480210946 ? |
| 17:35.45 | rm_you | what happened to it in these ones> |
| 17:36.00 | rm_you | is that on a PC in emulation or somesuch? |
| 17:36.13 | Stskeeps | nop, that's on tablet |
| 17:36.20 | Stskeeps | i'm not entirely sure what happened in that one tbh |
| 17:36.36 | Stskeeps | noticed it too when running through it |
| 17:36.56 | rm_you | hrm |
| 17:37.01 | rm_you | if you can get that to duplicate |
| 17:37.03 | rm_you | let me know |
| 17:37.50 | Stskeeps | might just as well have been between screen updates or something :P |
| 17:38.01 | GAN8001 | Hi, rm_you. :P |
| 17:38.05 | rm_you | <_< |
| 17:38.11 | rm_you | sup GAN8001 |
| 17:38.18 | rm_you | i'm back for a while :P |
| 17:38.36 | rm_you | no schoolwork between semesters and GF is far away in TX :( |
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| 17:41.26 | Stskeeps | good thing there's a bunch of stuff to be done in the maemo community then ;) |
| 17:44.17 | GAN8001 | Ha |
| 17:44.39 | GAN8001 | rm_you, you talked to jott recently? |
| 17:49.06 | rm_you | no |
| 17:49.13 | rm_you | haven't heard from him at all |
| 17:49.31 | GAN8001 | He's been idling in here but I haven't heard a peep from him in months. |
| 17:49.36 | GAN8001 | Oh, jott. . . . |
| 17:49.50 | rm_you | well, me too >_> |
| 17:50.03 | rm_you | he was supposed to mail me some stuff too |
| 17:50.13 | rm_you | but since i emailed him my address i haven't heard from him |
| 17:50.18 | GAN8001 | Wonder where he dropped off to. |
| 17:50.18 | rm_you | and that was two months ago or so |
| 17:50.27 | rm_you | i have his phone number... <_< |
| 17:50.58 | rm_you | could just call him and be like "jott wtf where are you?! :P" |
| 17:51.05 | Stskeeps | heh, idle 40 days |
| 17:51.06 | Stskeeps | impressive |
| 17:52.11 | GAN8001 | rm_you, you looked at the pre-alpha SDK yet? |
| 17:52.45 | GAN8001 | I guess I should buckle down and do the community highlights tonight. |
| 17:52.52 | rm_you | i have not seen ANYTHING |
| 17:52.57 | rm_you | i thought we were still on deblet |
| 17:53.03 | rm_you | apparently there have been like two more revisions |
| 17:53.04 | rm_you | >_> |
| 17:53.06 | rm_you | and now Mer |
| 17:53.23 | GAN8001 | lol |
| 17:54.01 | GAN8001 | Yeah, Mer is sort of the community backport of Fremantle to OMAP2, plus a more generally appealing and open version of Maemo for other tablet devices. |
| 17:54.17 | rm_you | lol coolbeans |
| 17:54.19 | GAN8001 | rm_you, http://maemo.org/community/council/ :P |
| 17:54.30 | Stskeeps | .. and the result of GAN8001 telling me to moan less about maemo and do something about it.. |
| 17:54.33 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 17:54.36 | Stskeeps | moan/rant/whatever |
| 17:54.43 | GAN8001 | Ha |
| 17:55.15 | GAN8001 | That's my job. Telling people to not be whiners. :P |
| 17:55.30 | rm_you | GAN8001: http://maemo.org/community/council/canola_and_bugzilla-a_beautiful_friendship/ |
| 17:55.41 | rm_you | hey, wasn't ABL the first on Bugzilla, technically? :P |
| 17:59.03 | rm_you | ack gotta run, ttyl |
| 17:59.10 | rm_you | heading into Seattle for a bit |
| 18:02.03 | GAN8001 | rm_you, hehe, well, Canola makes for better publicity and it's more "official" |
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| 18:07.22 | bearclaw_ | Are there kernel version higher than 2.6.16 known to be stable on the n770? |
| 18:10.37 | ssvb | bearclaw_: do you need to upgrade kernel? |
| 18:11.00 | bearclaw_ | I'd like hidraw in fact |
| 18:11.19 | bearclaw_ | which was introduced in 2.6.24 |
| 18:11.38 | bearclaw_ | backporting it seems nontrivial |
| 18:11.58 | bearclaw_ | the usb stuff seems to have moved a lot |
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| 18:13.26 | ssvb | I see, anyway booting OS2006 with new kernels is quite tricky |
| 18:14.19 | bearclaw_ | ok, maybe rewriting my app to use libusb will be easier then |
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| 18:15.09 | trenka | ssvb: drinking? ;) |
| 18:15.47 | ssvb | trenka: no, thanks :) |
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| 18:57.02 | RST38h | moo? |
| 18:57.24 | GAN8001 | rawr |
| 18:58.01 | RST38h | yeah. |
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| 18:58.10 | RST38h | got to fondle 5800 at a Nokia store today |
| 18:58.45 | RST38h | Much better than I thought. Totally lacks iPhoneish wow factor, but sturdid and useful |
| 18:59.50 | qwerty12_N800 | has a thing for the n97 over 5800 because it actually has buttons |
| 19:00.37 | RST38h | qwerty: Will you ditch the idea of buying N900 then? |
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| 19:01.39 | qwerty12_N800 | RST38h, heh, it'll be a long time before I get anything :p. but i do need a new phone... |
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| 19:08.15 | GAN8001 | qwerty12_N800, save your money for a discounted RX-51. <_< |
| 19:08.51 | GAN8001 | We're going to have to come over there and beat you up until you buy one if you're not hacking on Fremantle. :P |
| 19:09.11 | qwerty12_N800 | Hehe :P |
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| 19:10.49 | cyrus__ | anyone here using the current versino of NitDroid? |
| 19:18.51 | cyrus__ | for some reason when I insert my media card it doesn't show up when I connect the USB cable on my PC |
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| 19:26.34 | Stskeeps | remember .. it's not maemo |
| 19:26.37 | Stskeeps | that's maemo functionality :P |
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| 19:45.59 | lcuk_x41 | oooer, this is gonna be fun |
| 19:46.23 | lcuk_x41 | do i make my linux c code work in windows, or do i make my vb code work in linux? |
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| 19:47.11 | qwerty12_N800 | You forget windows. Problem solved. :) |
| 19:47.29 | lcuk_x41 | installation of linux may be a bit more involved than i thought |
| 19:47.36 | lcuk_x41 | i have no cd drive on this x41` |
| 19:47.50 | derf | USB? |
| 19:48.05 | lcuk_x41 | yeah lots of them, do i just make a bootable one and go for it? |
| 19:48.14 | derf | Don't see why not. |
| 19:48.26 | lcuk_x41 | cool, never done usb stick booting before |
| 19:48.42 | derf | Me neither, which is why I assume it will be easy. |
| 19:49.11 | qwerty12_N800 | lcuk_x41, what distro? |
| 19:49.16 | lcuk_x41 | heh yeah, its worth a shot, im just scared about breaking the recovery partition on this - theres no default way to reinstall everything |
| 19:49.33 | lcuk_x41 | qwerty, distro version is microsoft windows xp tablet edition |
| 19:50.03 | qwerty12_N800 | oh, you're installing windows? |
| 19:50.12 | lcuk_x41 | no, ill be puttin ubuntu on it |
| 19:50.18 | lcuk_x41 | its the only linux i know |
| 19:50.25 | lcuk_x41 | barring maemo |
| 19:50.57 | qwerty12_N800 | skeen, afaik the latest released version can do it from the cd if you can run it in windows |
| 19:51.15 | lcuk_x41 | i have no cd |
| 19:51.40 | qwerty12_N800 | make the bootable usb from another computer using the cd |
| 19:51.49 | lcuk_x41 | yeah i will do :) |
| 19:52.03 | lcuk_x41 | ahhh "do it" means make the usb stick for me |
| 19:52.32 | qwerty12_N800 | wrt the recovery partition - don't use the automatic partitioning of the installer. i wasn't paying attention and it wiped out my recovery partition |
| 19:53.10 | lcuk_x41 | alrighty, ill view partitions before and get em wrote down so i can do complete fix if required at a later date |
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| 19:54.07 | lcuk_x41 | sweet little device though this, its not finger touch, but its enough to get linux+sb on without me interupting current desktop system and i can test out clutter etc |
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| 19:54.26 | Meiz_n810 | Mer-imager fails |
| 19:54.29 | Meiz_n810 | /var/lib/dpkg/info/hildon-input-method-plugins-example.postinst: 5: hildon-im-recache: not found |
| 19:54.39 | Meiz_n810 | so, where can i get hildon-im-reache? |
| 19:56.11 | qwerty12_N800 | ~nuke bash |
| 19:56.11 | infobot | ACTION prepares 100 missle silos, and targets them at bash ... B☢☢M! |
| 19:56.44 | Meiz_n810 | you killed bash! |
| 19:57.20 | lcuk_x41 | you bastard! |
| 19:57.27 | Meiz_n810 | :P |
| 19:57.37 | qwerty12_N800 | it won't restore my old $PS1 :/ |
| 19:58.21 | qwerty12_N800 | well, not true, it won't re-read it from /etc/profile.d/prompt.sh :/ |
| 19:58.31 | skibur_ | hum... slackware on n800 yet? |
| 19:58.41 | skibur_ | or halted projected? |
| 19:58.58 | qwerty12_N800 | was it ever started? |
| 19:59.36 | skibur_ | I thought it was |
| 19:59.42 | skibur_ | let me check |
| 20:01.44 | skibur_ | I guess I was wrong |
| 20:06.16 | cyrus__ | is there a partition tool for maemo? and if so, where can I download it from |
| 20:07.20 | lcuk_x41 | cyrus, penguinbait ported something, not sure if its what you need but go search itT to find out more |
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| 20:13.45 | Stskeeps | "cfdisk" |
| 20:13.45 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 20:14.09 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: ta - i think it's in hildon-input-method-framework or something |
| 20:14.25 | lcuk_x41 | does this cope? |
| 20:14.33 | lcuk_x41 | ahh cool it can hibernate and not be dead |
| 20:15.17 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 20:15.30 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: did you add h-i-m-f to depends in hildon-desktop-env? |
| 20:15.42 | qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, yes. |
| 20:15.48 | Stskeeps | hmm |
| 20:16.28 | qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, he's not getting the error when installing the env package ;) |
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| 20:16.47 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: hmm. |
| 20:17.18 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: i think it's because we don't actually depend on hildon-input-method :) |
| 20:17.22 | Stskeeps | so that happens i guess |
| 20:17.26 | Stskeeps | stupid packaging |
| 20:17.40 | qwerty12_N800 | heh :/ |
| 20:19.24 | Meiz_n810 | Stskeeps: h-i-m-framework doesn't provide that.. :/ |
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| 20:21.04 | Meiz_n810 | qwerty12_N800: i am getting error with h-i-m-plugins-example |
| 20:21.27 | Meiz_n810 | (witch hildon-desktop-env depends on..) |
| 20:27.56 | Meiz_n810 | oh.. sorry for being an idiot.. :P i missed hildon-input-method.(just what you said..) unbelievable how long it took me to get it :P |
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| 20:32.59 | kkrusty | So n8x0 can play videos of various formats. Does anyone know of any legal video service in UK from where I could get movies and then play them on the tablets? |
| 20:33.22 | jakemaheu | what is this 'legal' you speak of? |
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| 20:34.00 | kkrusty | I've been looking at the sky player and it obviously wont allow me to use my n800 to view movies |
| 20:34.12 | kkrusty | legal = not going to get sued |
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| 20:35.13 | [A2K]_ | hello |
| 20:35.33 | [A2K]_ | does somebody use android on n810? |
| 20:35.43 | [A2K]_ | is it good enougth to replace maemo? |
| 20:36.32 | kkrusty | Im just curious, are torents the only way to view movies on tablets/nokia phones? |
| 20:37.54 | lcuk | how do you view a movie with a torrent? |
| 20:39.16 | kkrusty | lcuk: by torrents I mean the many illegal ways of getting movies (as some would say). |
| 20:39.32 | kkrusty | lcuk: s/view/get/ |
| 20:39.35 | lcuk | bbc iplayer flash version works - its about 5fps, but watchable in a bind |
| 20:40.19 | Jaffa | kkrusty: rip DVDs and encode with something like tablet-encode, get the free (old) movies from archive.org, download content from YouTube & watch with mplayer, record stuff on your PVR and transcode it |
| 20:41.27 | GAN800 | chuckles at allnameswereout actually trying to answer my rhetorical question. . . . |
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| 20:42.58 | kkrusty | Jaffa: so I'll have to get a dvd rental service or a PVR or start to like real old movies |
| 20:43.23 | kkrusty | Jaffa: nothing like sky player in UK? |
| 20:44.02 | Jaffa | Or download stuff from the Internet and risk the ire of content owners |
| 20:45.44 | lcuk | not everywhere on the net is against download |
| 20:45.54 | kkrusty | heh. I have no idea about Itunes but I assume it works for ipods/phones only |
| 20:46.11 | Jaffa | DRM's not easily avoidable |
| 20:46.23 | lcuk | i believe3 archive.org has a large collection of downloadable movies, depends whether you mean a specific type of movie though (ie big budget) |
| 20:46.24 | Jaffa | Find one of the iPhone iPlayer download scripts and use it |
| 20:46.38 | Jaffa | You've paid for the content, after all |
| 20:49.34 | Meiz_n810 | [A2K]_: battery metering not possible in android yet... |
| 20:50.04 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: no, hildon-input-method does |
| 20:50.39 | Meiz_n810 | does what? |
| 20:50.50 | Stskeeps | it provides hildon-im-recache |
| 20:50.56 | Meiz_n810 | yep |
| 20:51.31 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: any impression of battery use on android? |
| 20:52.47 | Meiz_n810 | i don't really know.. but i think it's better now when backlight turn off |
| 20:53.17 | Stskeeps | ah |
| 20:53.18 | Meiz_n810 | s/turn off/turns off automatically |
| 20:53.56 | Stskeeps | always helps |
| 20:54.35 | Meiz_n810 | screen is still on.. |
| 20:54.39 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 20:55.01 | Stskeeps | is still struggling a bit with mer sdk |
| 20:57.03 | Stskeeps | the big question is also if event-driven stuff like android is more sane for power consumption |
| 20:58.41 | Meiz_n810 | what's needed to get transparency working in Mer-panels?? |
| 20:59.55 | Stskeeps | probably similar tricks as to maemo |
| 21:00.39 | qwerty12_n800 | ubuntu should already have everything needed in their repos for transparency, except transset-df because that one was packaged by me for maemo. the xserver-xomap replacement mer uses also has to support composing |
| 21:00.52 | Stskeeps | that's true |
| 21:00.56 | qwerty12_n800 | s/composing/compositing |
| 21:01.01 | Stskeeps | no clue if it does or not |
| 21:01.07 | Stskeeps | it's xorg + a video driver :P |
| 21:01.43 | Stskeeps | so, Meiz_n810, in your words, what is the appeal of android? |
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| 21:02.14 | Stskeeps | compared to let's say maemo like stuff |
| 21:02.23 | Meiz_n810 | what's appeal? |
| 21:02.34 | Meiz_n810 | :P my english skills agn |
| 21:02.35 | suihkulokki | 1) android supposedly 100% free |
| 21:02.45 | suihkulokki | 2) it has the brandname of google |
| 21:02.52 | suihkulokki | that's about it :P |
| 21:02.54 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 21:03.22 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: what makes it interesting and nice to use |
| 21:03.27 | Stskeeps | i meant user appeal i guess :) |
| 21:03.33 | ShadowJK_ | with emphasis on "supposedly", I bet :-) |
| 21:03.33 | Stskeeps | technical appeal.. i don't know |
| 21:03.38 | lcuk | whats the "killer app" in android |
| 21:04.15 | Stskeeps | suihkulokki: while i have you.. it shouldn't be that difficult to take debian devkit in sb1, throw in an updated dpkg should it? |
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| 21:05.03 | suihkulokki | Stskeeps: not hard.. it's will just swallow you deeper in sb world |
| 21:05.18 | Meiz_n810 | Stskeeps: it's interesting i have to say... but this far, i have found nothing _so_ good that it would replace maemo.. |
| 21:05.46 | Stskeeps | suihkulokki: true. i'm already lost :P |
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| 21:05.48 | lcuk | the android killer app outside of maemo is the phone hardware itself. |
| 21:05.58 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: how about touch wise? |
| 21:06.10 | Stskeeps | i mean, maemo was a bit more stylus designed |
| 21:06.12 | lcuk | without that, it seems like just another distro |
| 21:06.20 | Meiz_n810 | that's true |
| 21:06.35 | Stskeeps | lcuk: yes and no.. it is a different API |
| 21:06.52 | Meiz_n810 | android is desinged to use by finger |
| 21:07.12 | lcuk | not entirely its not, isnt it geared to work on non touch phones? |
| 21:07.46 | lcuk | ie you cannot rely too heavily on touch if you have to run on non touch devices |
| 21:08.37 | Meiz_n810 | well, most of the ui is just easiest to use by finger.. |
| 21:08.59 | Meiz_n810 | how do you switch between home-screens by keyboard |
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| 21:09.43 | Meiz_n810 | btw it is annoying to use with stylus, too much accidental clicks |
| 21:09.54 | Stskeeps | *nod* |
| 21:10.17 | lcuk | heh Meiz_n810 thats the same with any UI that does multiple interactive elements which overlap |
| 21:10.29 | lcuk | the side swipe action to change apps is a bit risky |
| 21:10.53 | lcuk | jaiku: i love your mum [SUBMIT] *swipe* SHIT! i didnt actually mean to post that |
| 21:11.29 | Meiz_n810 | whoever posted that, meant to post it |
| 21:11.34 | Meiz_n810 | :P |
| 21:11.51 | lcuk | you get the idea though |
| 21:12.36 | lcuk | all it takes is one greasy smear between deleting your prn folder and moving to next app |
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| 21:27.38 | GAN8001 | stabs his eyes out over more goddamn tz bugs. |
| 21:28.01 | AStorm | hey |
| 21:28.16 | AStorm | how can I get a random number in ash (busybox) |
| 21:29.40 | AStorm | $RANDOM doesn't work |
| 21:31.22 | AStorm | ~curse Nokia for not using bash |
| 21:31.22 | infobot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, Nokia for not using bash ! |
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| 21:33.32 | AStorm | ~curse Nokia for disabling standard ash features |
| 21:33.33 | infobot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, Nokia for disabling standard ash features ! |
| 21:33.46 | Stskeeps | busybox isnt ash is it? :P |
| 21:33.49 | Vulcanis | wasn't there a bash port for it? |
| 21:33.58 | AStorm | yes and yes |
| 21:34.07 | AStorm | but I want the script not to use bash |
| 21:34.15 | AStorm | and need 1 raandom number |
| 21:34.19 | AStorm | *random |
| 21:34.29 | gvb | busybox is hush |
| 21:34.30 | AStorm | it is ash really |
| 21:34.41 | AStorm | it says ash on sh -v |
| 21:35.06 | gvb | hush is a minimalistic (not full featured) ash is my understanding |
| 21:35.11 | AStorm | BusyBox v1.6.1 (2008-09-18 09:43:17 EEST) Built-in shell (ash) |
| 21:35.20 | AStorm | not hush |
| 21:35.48 | AStorm | ok, still |
| 21:35.54 | AStorm | I need a random number |
| 21:36.04 | AStorm | (no, not debian kind of random) |
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| 21:36.21 | ShadowJK_ | aw, I was going to suggest you throw dice |
| 21:36.37 | gvb | :-) There is /dev/random, but I don't know how to read it usably in a shell script offhand. |
| 21:36.41 | AStorm | it's supposed to be a port number |
| 21:36.44 | AStorm | yup |
| 21:37.03 | AStorm | /dev/{u,}random give a character |
| 21:37.25 | AStorm | and I need a number in range 0-65535 |
| 21:37.37 | AStorm | (or better, 1024-65535) |
| 21:38.12 | ShadowJK_ | /proc/sys/kern/random/uuid gives you bunch of letters and numbers |
| 21:38.29 | ShadowJK_ | maybe you could have huge if then clauses to convert them into numbers |
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| 21:39.57 | AStorm | no |
| 21:40.20 | dick-richardson | does the backup/restore app include saved networks? |
| 21:40.49 | AStorm | should |
| 21:41.28 | AStorm | yes, Nokia did use ash... in minimal config |
| 21:41.41 | AStorm | ~curse Nokia for not using busybox correctly |
| 21:41.42 | infobot | May the fleas of a thousand camels infest your most sensitive regions, Nokia for not using busybox correctly ! |
| 21:42.04 | dick-richardson | that's a little harsh... |
| 21:42.18 | dick-richardson | full thousand? |
| 21:42.44 | qwerty12_n800 | AStorm, you could mess around with : RAN='{ srand()*10000; print rand()*10000 }' ; echo | awk "$RAN" |
| 21:42.56 | AStorm | srand()? |
| 21:43.07 | AStorm | is that available? |
| 21:43.37 | qwerty12_n800 | dunno, works here though |
| 21:43.53 | gvb | srand() is an awk command, and it works here too :-) |
| 21:43.59 | AStorm | ah, awk |
| 21:44.12 | AStorm | yes, I didn't think of the swiss army knife |
| 21:44.55 | AStorm | hmm, floating point :> |
| 21:45.02 | AStorm | need to get rid of the dot |
| 21:45.37 | gvb | RAN='{ srand()*10000; print int(rand()*10000) }' ; echo | awk "$RAN" |
| 21:45.41 | AStorm | yup |
| 21:45.54 | AStorm | why srand()*10000? |
| 21:46.13 | gvb | looks arbitrary. You want 65536 IIRC |
| 21:46.23 | qwerty12_n800 | I went for the 0's lots of times :) |
| 21:46.46 | AStorm | 65535 exactly |
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| 21:47.21 | Stskeeps | you want 1024 + (65535-1024) * srand() proably |
| 21:47.22 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 21:47.29 | AStorm | hmm |
| 21:47.33 | AStorm | that's good too |
| 21:49.07 | gvb | According to the awk manual http://people.cs.uu.nl/piet/docs/nawk/nawk_91.html#SEC94 srand() returns 0..1 *exclusive* of both 0 and 1. |
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| 21:50.33 | gvb | ...so you really want 65536 which, when int() is applied, will result in 0..65535 |
| 21:55.01 | gvb | FWIIW, the *10000 on srand()*10000 is bogus (I misunderstood your question). This is looking good to me: |
| 21:55.04 | gvb | echo | awk '{ srand(); print int(rand()*65536) }' |
| 21:55.53 | Stskeeps | ok, how many of you here use Maemo SDK+? |
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| 21:59.26 | jakemaheu | who here knows a bit about kernel hacking? |
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| 22:01.03 | qwerty12_n800 | rm_you, in advanced backlight, is it supposed to set the gconf key /apps/adv-backlight/brightness as soon as you've changed the brightness rather than doing so when you go into settings & press ok? |
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| 22:16.47 | dick-richardson | is there a way to update feeds I've read from the built-in rss feed reader and google reader? |
| 22:19.50 | AStorm | hm |
| 22:20.02 | AStorm | do we have some ssh-agent ui? |
| 22:25.36 | AStorm | everybody's dead or preparing for the pagan celebration? |
| 22:26.00 | netvictim | is just tired |
| 22:26.30 | lcuk | is preparing a ubuntu usb disk and grabbing some rainbow tables |
| 22:26.55 | lcuk | whilst pondering whether it will be easier to port liqbase to windows, or visual basic to linux |
| 22:26.57 | StsN800 | playing crazyparking while gf reads |
| 22:27.18 | lcuk | at the moment, the visual basic in linux is looking like the easier option... |
| 22:27.24 | netvictim | heh |
| 22:27.44 | lcuk | and also the one which would give me more satisfaction |
| 22:28.48 | netvictim | isn't vb for linux just a few changes to wine? :) |
| 22:29.04 | lcuk | wine runs in maemo? |
| 22:29.36 | lcuk | but no, i dont want compatibility with windows binaries, i have thousands of source projects i just wanna use directly |
| 22:30.15 | lcuk | if i concentrate on core builtin vb libraries, theres not actually that much to do |
| 22:30.37 | netvictim | well, wine for maemo-x86 could work |
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| 22:31.09 | netvictim | wine for maemo-arm would be relatively useless |
| 22:31.09 | lcuk | not really |
| 22:31.20 | netvictim | you'd have to find an arm-win binary |
| 22:31.20 | lcuk | yeah, the devices arent waterproofed |
| 22:32.40 | AStorm | maybe add scripting host while you're at it :/ |
| 22:33.06 | AStorm | so, do we have a package with ui for ssh-agent? |
| 22:36.14 | AStorm | can barely hear crickets chirping |
| 22:40.04 | jakemaheu | does anyone want to try porting the sound driver from 2.6.21 to 2.6.28-rc9-omap? |
| 22:42.10 | AStorm | hmm? |
| 22:42.25 | AStorm | 2.6.28-rc9 has a real ALSA driver |
| 22:42.28 | AStorm | use it |
| 22:47.00 | jakemaheu | er, the n800's sound driver, which doesn't appear to work in the newest kernel |
| 22:47.05 | jakemaheu | or isn't there |
| 22:47.13 | AStorm | it is there |
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| 22:47.16 | AStorm | and should work |
| 22:47.27 | AStorm | it's the same driver as for n810 |
| 22:47.36 | AStorm | the config options have changed a lot |
| 22:47.58 | qwerty12_n800 | the same drivers work for both mixers? |
| 22:48.02 | qwerty12_n800 | *driver |
| 22:48.21 | AStorm | I remember seeing changes on the ml saying so |
| 22:48.36 | jakemaheu | for some reason android can't access the hardware through the current ones |
| 22:48.53 | AStorm | maybe it isn't enabled |
| 22:48.54 | qwerty12_n800 | nice, looks like we're not sol as i thought we were :-) |
| 22:49.00 | AStorm | it *should* work |
| 22:49.15 | jakemaheu | anyone want to take a crack at it? |
| 22:49.26 | AStorm | although last one I checked was 2.6.25 |
| 22:49.35 | AStorm | might've broken it |
| 22:50.16 | AStorm | the preferred course of action would be asking on linux-omap mailing list |
| 22:50.21 | dick-richardson | I have no sound w/espeak...would that be related? |
| 22:50.28 | AStorm | dick-richardson, no |
| 22:50.53 | jakemaheu | @AStorm, well, I don't know how to |
| 22:51.07 | jakemaheu | how does one go about posting on a mailing list? |
| 22:51.12 | AStorm | mail, to linux-omap@vger.kernel.org |
| 22:51.25 | AStorm | you don't have to be subscribed |
| 22:51.34 | jakemaheu | kay |
| 22:54.22 | AStorm | ok |
| 22:54.51 | AStorm | so, who has a ssh-agent password ui package available |
| 22:55.00 | AStorm | e.g. keychain? |
| 22:57.13 | qwerty12_n800 | best i can offer you is the highly insecure sshpass program & and a hildonized ssh-askpass but i think those are not what you want.. |
| 22:57.47 | ciroip | buon natale people, how is going? |
| 22:57.55 | ciroip | thank you qwerty |
| 22:57.57 | qwerty12_n800 | hi ciroip |
| 22:57.59 | ciroip | always fast |
| 22:58.05 | jakemaheu | hey qwerty |
| 22:58.17 | qwerty12_n800 | hi jakemaheu |
| 22:58.22 | qwerty12_n800 | ciroip, :) |
| 22:58.24 | jakemaheu | sup? |
| 22:58.29 | AStorm | qwerty12_n800, not too bad |
| 22:58.35 | AStorm | might be eough |
| 22:58.39 | AStorm | *enough |
| 22:58.54 | qwerty12_n800 | jakemaheu, nothing much :). just browsing itt :D |
| 22:58.59 | qwerty12_n800 | AStorm, 1 sec |
| 23:00.15 | qwerty12_n800 | AStorm, http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=220005&postcount=20 |
| 23:01.02 | ciroip | lol qwerty12_n800: is there a project u are not touched on itt? |
| 23:01.10 | ciroip | have |
| 23:01.12 | ciroip | uf |
| 23:02.10 | rm_you | qwerty12_n800: wait WHAT? |
| 23:02.19 | rm_you | i think i need to look at that code again... |
| 23:02.30 | rm_you | it's supposed to set that gconf var when you change it, yes |
| 23:02.30 | qwerty12_n800 | ciroip, hehe :) |
| 23:02.48 | rm_you | that might be why the setting isn't saving across reboots <_< |
| 23:02.52 | rm_you | #@&* |
| 23:03.25 | qwerty12_n800 | rm_you, thanks, i wondered why i kept getting 127 brightness when i kept starting my tablet in the morning >.< :) |
| 23:03.36 | rm_you | well |
| 23:03.40 | rm_you | i'll fix it |
| 23:03.45 | rm_you | and do another release this week |
| 23:03.50 | rm_you | couple of bug fixes in the SVN |
| 23:03.56 | qwerty12_n800 | Whee :) |
| 23:03.58 | rm_you | and i have time now that I'm home? |
| 23:04.01 | rm_you | err |
| 23:04.03 | rm_you | that wasn't a question :P |
| 23:05.00 | qwerty12_n800 | I need to release rotation packages for the latest ssu now jott's awol but i have no web space anymore :/ |
| 23:05.44 | AStorm | qwerty12_n800, where can I get this ssh-askpass? |
| 23:06.13 | jakemaheu | qwerty: i've got a place they can go |
| 23:06.43 | qwerty12_n800 | AStorm, it's attached? |
| 23:07.14 | AStorm | where? |
| 23:07.26 | AStorm | I need a gui version |
| 23:07.44 | qwerty12_n800 | jakemaheu, cool :), i'll have to see what happens though yet :/ |
| 23:07.52 | jakemaheu | alright |
| 23:08.39 | qwerty12_n800 | AStorm, File Type: deb hildon-ssh-askpass_0.2-2_armel.deb (3.8 KB, 9 views)? |
| 23:08.54 | AStorm | mhm, not in tree? |
| 23:09.07 | qwerty12_n800 | on http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=220005&postcount=20 which is the same link which i gave you before |
| 23:09.43 | AStorm | which I didn't get |
| 23:09.59 | qwerty12_n800 | <qwerty12_n800> AStorm, http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=220005&postcount=20 |
| 23:10.42 | AStorm | meh |
| 23:10.55 | dick-richardson | why not use sshfs? |
| 23:10.59 | AStorm | I guess 4 lines of history on reconnect are too few |
| 23:11.24 | AStorm | dick-richardson, I need it for an ssh tunnel, not file transfer |
| 23:11.28 | dick-richardson | I'm coming late to the party, sorry... |
| 23:12.04 | dick-richardson | ok, and what would a graphical frontend give you that's better than the command line? |
| 23:12.25 | dick-richardson | just preconfigured so you just click a button? |
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| 23:12.46 | rm_you | qwerty12_n800: i can provide as much webspace as you could possibly need |
| 23:12.50 | rm_you | srsly |
| 23:13.02 | rm_you | i have to leave for a minute to drive home |
| 23:13.07 | rm_you | but talk to me in a bit when i get there |
| 23:13.10 | AStorm | qwerty12_n800, itt is a bad place for these |
| 23:13.14 | AStorm | we need a repo |
| 23:13.23 | AStorm | so gronmayer can index it |
| 23:13.39 | dick-richardson | I guess the way I have mine set up is using dbus-scripts to establish the connection when wan connects and then tear it down when it disconnects |
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| 23:14.22 | qwerty12_n800 | AStorm, i prefer extras to opening a new repo but those debs were posted before i got my licence to upload to extras :) |
| 23:14.24 | AStorm | dick-richardson, ..... |
| 23:14.30 | AStorm | I need a way to enter a pass |
| 23:14.48 | dick-richardson | ahh, nm then... |
| 23:14.49 | AStorm | qwerty12_n800, btw, why the huge window in the background? |
| 23:14.54 | AStorm | :> |
| 23:14.58 | AStorm | anyway |
| 23:15.08 | AStorm | I have to config ssh to use it |
| 23:15.14 | rm_you | qwerty12_n800: see my message about webspace? |
| 23:15.36 | dick-richardson | I use rsa keys...makes it a little easier. I'm guessing that's not an option |
| 23:15.57 | qwerty12_n800 | rm_you, oh sorry, yeah. I was just waiting until you got back :) |
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| 23:16.07 | rm_you | heh k |
| 23:16.10 | AStorm | dick-richardson, it is |
| 23:16.10 | rm_you | just about to leave |
| 23:16.25 | AStorm | but you still need a way to give a pass to ssh-agent |
| 23:17.02 | AStorm | qwerty12_n800, how do I set it up? (forgot) |
| 23:17.44 | AStorm | again, why the huge window in the background? |
| 23:17.52 | qwerty12_n800 | AStorm, I don't know the first thing about ssh minus entering the password each time |
| 23:18.04 | qwerty12_n800 | it's not my program6 |
| 23:18.05 | AStorm | uhm |
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| 23:20.20 | b-man | Installing Windows95 on my N800....... With my own hacked-up version of DosBox... |
| 23:20.32 | b-man | slow..... |
| 23:21.35 | rm_you | roflcopter |
| 23:21.39 | t_s_o | and i would say, ever so slighty insane... |
| 23:21.40 | rm_you | yeah that is SLOOOOOOW apparently |
| 23:22.15 | AStorm | wtf?! |
| 23:22.27 | qwerty12_n800 | remembers the guy who compiled pearpc and tried to use it :p |
| 23:22.59 | b-man | i made my own version of dos with a composit of MS-DOS and FreeDos.. |
| 23:23.17 | b-man | witch i'm running in dosbox |
| 23:23.19 | rm_you | yeah theres some screenshots and a howto from like six months or so ago of a guy doing that |
| 23:23.24 | rm_you | win95 >_> |
| 23:23.32 | rm_you | bootup took like 30 minutes apparently |
| 23:23.45 | qwerty12_n800 | ha |
| 23:23.52 | b-man | only a fuew minutes for me... |
| 23:23.58 | rm_you | maybe it got better |
| 23:24.15 | b-man | but i'm running my own version of dos... |
| 23:25.24 | b-man | costom command.com, costom shell, costom Edit.exe, ect... |
| 23:26.03 | t_s_o | hmm, reading the requirements of win95 makes one wonder... |
| 23:26.19 | t_s_o | 386 of any speed, 4MB ram, 50MB hardrive... |
| 23:27.08 | b-man | i'm using windows 3.1 for a base.. |
| 23:28.25 | t_s_o | ye gods, OSR 2.1 version of win95 came on 26 floppies?! |
| 23:28.32 | AStorm | trick is, tablet just doesn't have enough power |
| 23:28.58 | towo | t_s_o: Yep. |
| 23:29.06 | AStorm | core2 1.5G doesn't have enough, even |
| 23:29.10 | AStorm | yup |
| 23:29.12 | AStorm | or a cd |
| 23:29.14 | AStorm | (+ 1 floppy) |
| 23:29.43 | qwerty12_n800 | t_s_o, please insert disk 23. <drive grinding>. please insert disk 23. #!?! :p |
| 23:30.11 | t_s_o | heh, always fun |
| 23:30.12 | AStorm | also, special format |
| 23:30.23 | t_s_o | DMF from what i read |
| 23:30.27 | AStorm | yup |
| 23:30.49 | AStorm | = More Broken Floppy format |
| 23:30.55 | t_s_o | hehe |
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| 23:31.26 | b-man | oh #@?!, i minimised my dosbox emulator in the middle of the install. :O |
| 23:31.36 | b-man | nooo!!!! |
| 23:31.55 | qwerty12_n800 | b-man, google kciconsbox :p |
| 23:32.51 | t_s_o | heh, i wonder when we will see games distributed as usb drives, now that would be going full circle ;) |
| 23:33.09 | qwerty12_n800 | get dosbox to export SDL_VIDEO_X11_WMCLASS for next time :p |
| 23:33.35 | qwerty12_n800 | s/get dosbox to// |
| 23:39.10 | lcuk | t_s_o, i keep thinking i wanna setup multiple bootdisks mini-sd bootdisks |
| 23:39.26 | lcuk | i could keep them in a little tiny disk box and flip through them like my amiga ones |
| 23:39.26 | t_s_o | cute |
| 23:40.38 | t_s_o | i recall i loved to buy these english amiga magazines, long before i could really read the language, just for the demo disks on the front ;) |
| 23:41.20 | lcuk | yeah, they had all sorts of things, i just saw the makers of caligari went full circle and gave away latest 3d editor on some magazine coverdisk |
| 23:41.29 | lcuk | only about 10 years after they did same on amiga ;) |
| 23:44.13 | b-man | i don't know how much more my tablet can take, i'm running dosbox with windows 3.1 installing 95, chatting on irc, browsing the web, running emelfm2, editing a note, and running the application manager with no lag... |
| 23:44.29 | Proteous | http://twittypic.com/promoted_pics/ce9e133d785c877181e1c407da4ee534.jpg |
| 23:44.56 | t_s_o | :S |
| 23:45.27 | qwerty12_n800 | Proteous, can you get me a manual onesthe best way of burning them? :) |
| 23:45.34 | Proteous | heh |
| 23:45.41 | qwerty12_n800 | s/onesthe/on the |
| 23:45.57 | Proteous | make sure your house has some stairs then you will be safe |
| 23:46.12 | qwerty12_n800 | heh |
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