| 00:01.18 | gomiam | (By the way, what's this braindead Nokia idea of treating their MIDs as if they were phones? I can't find pointers for n800 in the Nokia Store anymore, and finding other components is getting to be tricky) |
| 00:05.22 | lcuk | gomiam, not sure on the mapping, but i know people went through very similar issues and modified some keymap when trying to get tab to work on n810 |
| 00:05.48 | lcuk | http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/2007/12/31/adding-pipe-and-tab-to-the-n810-keyboard/ |
| 00:06.00 | lcuk | theres a lot of information about changing the keyboard there :) |
| 00:07.43 | gomiam | Thanks a lot! |
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| 00:28.01 | gomiam | Time to restart and try... |
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| 01:13.51 | GuySoft | hey, if i open a video i downloaded with gpodder, it comes out really slow. is there a way to speed up video playback? it seems to happen even to videos that are superposed to be playable on ipods.. |
| 01:24.05 | disco_stu | GuySoft, check the video format and resolution |
| 01:25.33 | GuySoft | disco_stu, some are high, some are not too high but still sluggish.. |
| 01:26.08 | GuySoft | disco_stu, isnt there a way to build an auto-encoding tool.. it was done in the original gpodder .. |
| 01:31.05 | disco_stu | with open source you can do whatever you want :) |
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| 01:41.17 | GuySoft | disco_stu, i need open time too.. |
| 01:41.29 | GuySoft | there were days where i coded what i want when i want.. |
| 01:41.33 | GuySoft | ah.. the memories |
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| 02:33.24 | christendoc | Thanks to pointers from some of you fine gentleman, I've got a functional keyboard and working wpa wireless now on my native gentoo n810. Will update documentation soon, but gotta study some for real world. |
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| 05:22.59 | Ro9u3oR | KDE vs. Xfce on N800 which would you recommend |
| 05:25.35 | duzt | xfce |
| 05:25.58 | duzt | tho. i only use maemo in my n800 |
| 05:28.33 | Ro9u3oR | thanks duzt |
| 05:29.24 | Ro9u3oR | is it possible to use espeak as a audio ebook reader? |
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| 06:56.22 | Meiz_n810 | morning |
| 06:57.14 | Meiz_n810 | is there a good and lightweight painting softaware? |
| 06:57.18 | Meiz_n810 | (for Mer) |
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| 07:16.27 | pupnik | Meiz_n810: i like mypaint |
| 07:16.37 | Meiz_n810 | k |
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| 09:03.57 | Myrtti | o hai! |
| 09:05.18 | Proteous | I see what you did there |
| 09:05.43 | Myrtti | uh-oh |
| 09:05.57 | Myrtti | meaow? |
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| 09:11.45 | RST38h | EHLO all |
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| 09:28.44 | Meiz_n810 | what were the pics needed to edit for transparent panels? |
| 09:31.24 | Meiz_n810 | john761 is spamming itT!!! |
| 09:39.21 | RST38h | KILL! KILL! |
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| 10:22.51 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 10:29.37 | keesj | hi |
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| 10:51.04 | lcuk | crap: emergency, just purchased wayfinder 1 month license this morning and when entering code it wont activate because it needs working network, dns is borked at this end so only wifi works between machines, is there any way to activate this license without network. i have a need to use it as soon as i finish work today :$ its important |
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| 10:55.04 | lardman | setup a local dns server? |
| 10:56.25 | lcuk | lardman, im gonna get at max 5 mins after i get home :S i cant access tablet from work to see fi its working either :( |
| 10:56.53 | lardman | it doesn't take long to register |
| 10:56.56 | lcuk | we got code from website and remembered it was entering a big long serial - thought it would activate without a network but it needs to check |
| 10:57.40 | lardman | yeah, no-one trusts anyone these days ;) |
| 10:57.41 | lcuk | i know timing wise, but its the windows network thats goosed here, tablet connects here and through my connsharing and out, but something is deliciously borkened |
| 10:58.06 | lcuk | if theres no way round needing network ill have to do without |
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| 11:01.34 | lardman | head out to a cafe for lunch! :) |
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| 11:09.24 | Jaffa | lcuk: tried in offline mode, rather than just with a b0rked network? |
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| 11:47.27 | lcuk | lardman,logistics, nokia is at home, i am at work. jaffa, thanks ill try it when i get back |
| 11:48.11 | lcuk | ahhh, tracy saw your message jaffa: |
| 11:48.14 | lcuk | "i tried it with net offline but it just tries to connect to the net when u enter the code so if u cant fix it ur gonna be toddless" |
| 11:48.21 | lcuk | im on my todd \o/ |
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| 12:01.14 | Stskeeps | morning |
| 12:04.10 | X-Fade | Interesting: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=249635&postcount=111 |
| 12:04.31 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: Do you want me to put the meeting log up on maemo.org? |
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| 12:06.39 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: yes, would be great :) sorry, it managed to slip me |
| 12:07.01 | Stskeeps | and yes, interesting orientations and call states |
| 12:07.09 | Stskeeps | i still wonder wtf "face down" means |
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| 12:07.24 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: Screen on table. |
| 12:07.30 | Stskeeps | mm |
| 12:07.35 | Stskeeps | maybe |
| 12:07.41 | X-Fade | So you can flip it over to silence it for example. |
| 12:08.05 | Stskeeps | it'll be interesting at least |
| 12:08.05 | X-Fade | And not wake the display up when there is a mauku update because you can't see it anyway. |
| 12:08.23 | Stskeeps | or a way to mute the tablet in the morning when alarm goes on .. |
| 12:08.23 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 12:08.28 | X-Fade | Possibilites are limitless. |
| 12:08.32 | RST38h | X-Fade: My guess is that they are keeping the old naming convention |
| 12:08.49 | RST38h | So although defines start with MCE, MCE may well be gone |
| 12:09.00 | X-Fade | RST38h: Sure.. |
| 12:09.19 | GAN800 | What if you're checking your email on the space shuttle? :( |
| 12:09.26 | Stskeeps | RST38h: i think d-bus API mce provides will still be exposed |
| 12:09.40 | Stskeeps | it is used quite a lot in apps, so |
| 12:09.48 | derf | GAN800: I presume that's what "unknown" is for. |
| 12:09.50 | X-Fade | GAN800: As long as it is accelerating, it should work. (Kind of) |
| 12:10.10 | GAN800 | Sitting there with it face 'down' on the pad. :P |
| 12:13.35 | GAN800 | I was trying X-Plane on the iPhone last night. We're gonna need a flight sim. . . . |
| 12:14.32 | RST38h | Sts: Yep - I don't think they will be changing the whole thing just because the actual agent changes |
| 12:14.45 | Stskeeps | RST38h: and that's the purpose of defining interfaces :) |
| 12:14.51 | Stskeeps | GAN800: with accelerometer? |
| 12:14.59 | GAN800 | Yeah |
| 12:15.15 | RST38h | GAN <-- infidel! =) |
| 12:15.20 | GAN800 | Not perfect, but surprisingly smooth |
| 12:15.25 | RST38h | iNfidel, iven =) |
| 12:15.29 | RST38h | s/iven/even/ |
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| 12:18.24 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: http://maemo.org/maemo-meeting/mer-meeting-2008-12-14.html |
| 12:18.37 | Stskeeps | thank you, X-Fade |
| 12:18.59 | Jaffa | X-Fade: Known issue: "latest items" on /news/ isn't updating? |
| 12:19.58 | X-Fade | Jaffa: It should? :) |
| 12:20.10 | X-Fade | Jaffa: Is it not loading a feed? |
| 12:20.37 | Jaffa | X-Fade: planet items not updated since Friday on the sidebar, even though the main content is up-to-date |
| 12:22.09 | GAN800 | I noticed events weren't updating on the front page either. |
| 12:22.33 | X-Fade | Hmm yeah, it seems the anonymous pages' cache doesn't expire. |
| 12:23.16 | X-Fade | It does update when logged in. |
| 12:23.20 | X-Fade | Need to investigate. |
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| 12:43.41 | GAN8001 | X-Fade, also, can you put repository.maemo.org/community into the back of your mind for Mer? |
| 12:44.00 | Stskeeps | also, which software do you use to manage the current repositories? |
| 12:44.16 | GAN8001 | We'll need a firmer definition of "what" and "how", but, speaking generally, we want it to be hosted from there abouts. |
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| 12:47.06 | Stskeeps | morning lardman|home |
| 12:47.43 | lardman|home | hey Stskeeps |
| 12:48.55 | X-Fade | GAN8001: That should not be a problem. Although a clear what goes where and who does what might be in order ;) |
| 12:49.30 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, want to put together a wiki task? |
| 12:50.06 | Stskeeps | yeah, ok |
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| 12:51.19 | andrewfblack | Morning |
| 12:51.32 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: what repository software do you use currently for extras? |
| 12:52.13 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: We use queue-manager. A custom script top of the debian tools. |
| 12:52.17 | Stskeeps | alright |
| 12:52.36 | X-Fade | But basically dpkg-* tools. |
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| 12:55.40 | lcuk | mornin X-Fade, hope they are keeping you busy in the bowels |
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| 12:57.37 | Stskeeps | ~seen johnx |
| 12:57.39 | infobot | johnx <i=hidden-u@202.209.68.73> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 3d 22h 57m 37s ago, saying: ':)'. |
| 12:57.42 | X-Fade | lcuk: Sure.. |
| 12:58.09 | lcuk | lol X-Fade isnt GAN a slave driver (good job he can't hear us:P) |
| 12:58.38 | lcuk | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:58.49 | GAN8001 | cracks the whip on lcuk. |
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| 12:58.58 | lcuk | lardman|home, any further on your investigation of DSP on steroids doing transform&lighting or are we in a holding pattern for things |
| 12:59.04 | lcuk | :D GAN8001 |
| 13:01.16 | lardman|home | lcuk: I've been a bit busy, haven't really looked at it any more, ping baddu as he started that |
| 13:01.37 | lardman|home | lcuk: just looking at the sbc patches, and preferably waiting on the powervr thing |
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| 13:10.00 | lcuk | lardman|home, yeah will do, just pondering is all. i think ive got myself over a hump and am onto the next step - hopefully the way ive written stuff these kinds of improvements can just be slotted in |
| 13:11.14 | lardman|home | good good |
| 13:11.38 | lardman|home | looks at rejected hunks |
| 13:14.30 | Stskeeps | looks at scratchbox devkits and tries to make sense of them. |
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| 13:18.06 | Stskeeps | wb Meiz_n810 |
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| 13:20.34 | Meiz_n810 | thanks |
| 13:20.47 | Meiz_n810 | i'll boot to mer soon.. |
| 13:20.58 | Meiz_n810 | anything new? |
| 13:21.55 | Stskeeps | not really, working on SDK, b-man will make a small "download tar.gz, partition my MMC card and put mer on it" script |
| 13:23.05 | Stskeeps | to make it easier for people to try it out |
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| 13:27.45 | lcuk | regarding scratchbox, if i have an IDE which can handle managing a "standard" gnu project build, does it simply need telling the new path to know to build via scratchbox, or does the scratchbox plugin have to be distinct from the main build configurations? |
| 13:30.57 | Stskeeps | http://xbmodder.us/index.php?q=node/24 <- interesting |
| 13:31.06 | Meiz_n810 | what file is toolbars backgroung in /usr/share/themes/.../images/? |
| 13:31.47 | Meiz_n810 | i would like to modify grasser theme a bit |
| 13:32.01 | Stskeeps | no clue personally :P |
| 13:32.14 | Meiz_n810 | somewhere in itT :P |
| 13:32.36 | Meiz_n810 | i'm just to search :) |
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| 14:02.56 | Stskeeps | http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer_Blueprint#SB1_SDK_Guide <- working SDK for Mer (ARMEL) |
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| 14:04.45 | Stskeeps | GAN8001: odd question - sprint activity logs, are those from previous month, or from the month the sprint items are about? |
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| 14:16.53 | t_s_o | hmm, a 40% drop in battery over 10 hours or so... |
| 14:17.03 | Stskeeps | your battery meter thing? |
| 14:17.37 | t_s_o | nope, good old manual. wrote down the battery percentage when i went to bed and checked again when i got up... |
| 14:19.40 | t_s_o | hmm, i swear, modest thinks it should do autochecking on some account, while i have it specifically turned of. only way to notice it is that as i currently have some networking issue on my N800 i get a "unable to connect" dialog, followed by the account settings window, when i do not have the main modest window open... |
| 14:21.33 | Stskeeps | i gave up using modest |
| 14:21.45 | Stskeeps | i use claws. not so layout friendly, but it works without hassle |
| 14:22.32 | t_s_o | well i just want to be able to check the headers and odd mail of some pop accounts |
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| 14:22.44 | dockane | hi all |
| 14:22.59 | t_s_o | so i could have survived with the old osso-mail with the 2-line modest interface... |
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| 14:23.43 | Stskeeps | mm |
| 14:23.54 | t_s_o | hmm, on what repo is the ogg-support package on? panucci complains about it not being around :( |
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| 14:24.37 | Stskeeps | ponders what next release name of mer should be. |
| 14:24.51 | Stskeeps | 'alpha' currently, as we needed something :P |
| 14:24.52 | t_s_o | "insane rabbit"? |
| 14:25.13 | dockane | need some info about the n800 battery, which is the nokia bp-5l. here in germany there are 2 different versions in the shops, an 1300 mAh and an 1500 mAh version (same price btw). does anybody know something assured about that (i.e. if the smaller one is an old version or something like that) |
| 14:25.35 | kulve | t_s_o: it's still only in my own repo.. |
| 14:25.50 | t_s_o | ah, that may explain it... |
| 14:25.52 | Stskeeps | since mer is ocean.. sea creatures maybe |
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| 14:26.23 | Stskeeps | manatee? :> |
| 14:26.39 | RST38h | Alabaster Amoeba? |
| 14:27.21 | Stskeeps | amoeba isn't bad, as it is not that big an animal just yet :P |
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| 14:33.48 | lardman|home | http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/nokia770/dsp/sbc/sbcenc.o.diablo-improved-filterbank |
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| 14:34.09 | lardman|home | for those who do lots of sbc listening, please let me know if it sounds better |
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| 14:36.55 | lardman|home | I'll have to test and see if the DSP-side is now slower (probably need to add some pragmas and intrinsics for the new filterbank method) as I do get some slow-downs |
| 14:37.06 | lardman|home | however the frequency response is supposed to be better now |
| 14:37.39 | X-Fade | While I haven't tested it before: Cool stuff anyway ;) |
| 14:38.01 | lardman|home | :) |
| 14:39.25 | lardman|home | bbiab |
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| 14:49.10 | disco_stu | t_s_o, where do you read battery charge? |
| 14:49.48 | t_s_o | i used advanced power/pybattery |
| 14:50.15 | disco_stu | ack, thanks |
| 14:52.18 | lcuk | disco_stu, kcbatt is a command line version i believe |
| 14:52.53 | disco_stu | hi lcuk |
| 14:53.25 | disco_stu | yesterday i tried MyPaint, did you? |
| 14:53.41 | disco_stu | it is really cool |
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| 14:55.02 | Stskeeps | wb GAN800 |
| 14:55.32 | GAN800 | Shopping for a coffee maker for my dad in Linens and Things. :P |
| 14:55.45 | disco_stu | Stskeeps, whats 'wb' ? |
| 14:55.53 | Stskeeps | welcome back |
| 14:56.02 | disco_stu | i see.. |
| 14:56.18 | Stskeeps | GAN8001: coffee makers are good until they break and you start screaming at it in mornings to give you coffee.. :P |
| 14:56.36 | andre__ | coffee. a good idea |
| 14:56.39 | andre__ | goes to the kitchen |
| 14:57.33 | aquatix | hmmm, coffee |
| 14:57.46 | disco_stu | is overclocking himself with a can of red bull |
| 14:59.16 | t_s_o | ugh, i may well have managed to nail down a issue with modest that have been bothering me. seems that if one try to refresh a account while the tablet is setting up a wifi connection, modest stays loaded even after one close down the main window |
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| 15:04.36 | disco_stu | i installed powerlaunch, but failed.. and now i cant uninstall it because it also fails |
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| 15:08.16 | lardman | re |
| 15:08.38 | Stskeeps | 2wb |
| 15:10.43 | GAN800 | disco_stu, dangling symlinks |
| 15:10.55 | GAN800 | qwerty12 can fix it. :P |
| 15:11.34 | disco_stu | i will fix it. but now i have to study. |
| 15:13.25 | lcuk | disco_stu, no i havent recently, but i did months ago - you wouldnt know if its changed since |
| 15:13.34 | Stskeeps | notes kernel-diablo isn't gcc4 friendly |
| 15:14.04 | lcuk | gcc4 - what did they break making it that its such a big deal? |
| 15:14.27 | Stskeeps | well dunno, it just doesnt build :P |
| 15:15.20 | lcuk | ahhh well |
| 15:15.31 | lcuk | this pan shaped burn is really distracting |
| 15:16.01 | Stskeeps | your missus slapped you with a hot pan? :P |
| 15:18.27 | lardman | the danger of falling asleep while cooking bacon |
| 15:18.35 | Stskeeps | ah. |
| 15:19.19 | disco_stu | wow.. today it is 41ºC |
| 15:20.00 | disco_stu | about 110 F |
| 15:20.16 | lardman | :p |
| 15:20.20 | lardman | ~3C here |
| 15:20.21 | Stskeeps | where are you, hell? |
| 15:20.22 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 15:20.34 | lardman | 41C sounds good to me |
| 15:21.09 | disco_stu | 41C its not good at all. only to stay at the pool |
| 15:21.17 | lardman | quite :) |
| 15:21.27 | disco_stu | im in Mendoza, Argentina |
| 15:21.38 | lardman | oh, humid too then? |
| 15:21.50 | disco_stu | no.. dry |
| 15:21.58 | lardman | ah, that's ok then |
| 15:23.13 | disco_stu | humidity is 45 % |
| 15:23.15 | lardman | or at least not so bad :) |
| 15:23.32 | disco_stu | but its lower normally |
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| 15:24.13 | lardman | ah, the boy wonder |
| 15:24.45 | disco_stu | lol |
| 15:25.10 | lardman | I've changed the sbc filter so lethal bizzle should sounds even worse (or better depending on your taste) |
| 15:25.13 | aquatix | disco_stu: wtf, that's hot :) |
| 15:25.20 | aquatix | it's about freezing here |
| 15:25.24 | qwerty12 | lardman, hi, lol :P |
| 15:26.02 | disco_stu | aquatix, it is killing me, :p |
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| 15:26.18 | aquatix | disco_stu: can imagine |
| 15:26.35 | summatusmentis | aquatix: almost freezing? suck it up :) It's -40 here w/ windchill |
| 15:26.58 | lardman | *shiver* |
| 15:28.06 | disco_stu | summatusmentis, wow, you dont need a fridge to keep beers |
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| 15:28.38 | aquatix | summatusmentis: almost freezing is fine with me :) |
| 15:28.51 | summatusmentis | disco_stu: haha, I do need another year under my belt though |
| 15:28.52 | aquatix | especially when it's sunny, which it sort of was today |
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| 15:29.28 | Meizirkki | qwerty12: where is the xchat for mer ? :P |
| 15:29.52 | aquatix | under `irssi' ;) |
| 15:30.10 | qwerty12 | Meizirkki, http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/xchat_2.8.4-mer0q12_armel.deb - haven't tested it but there are no preinst/postinst/whatever scripts run nor are there any libraries installed so it should work |
| 15:30.12 | Meizirkki | the one i have naggs about missing connection.. (i used the one in extras : |
| 15:30.14 | Meizirkki | ok |
| 15:30.22 | qwerty12 | Meizirkki, I removed the connection check |
| 15:30.26 | Meizirkki | great |
| 15:30.34 | spencer_ | have a question on running the sdk in ubuntu... tried my autoconf script and is telling me i'm missing "conbtdialogs".. but i can't find the deb for it. |
| 15:30.54 | Stskeeps | apt-get install libconbtdialogs? |
| 15:30.58 | Stskeeps | should be in sdk |
| 15:31.22 | spencer_ | no luck |
| 15:31.55 | spencer_ | no such thing as libconbtdialogs... apt-cache showed nothing with the search string of conbtdialog |
| 15:31.57 | qwerty12 | spencer_, apt-get install conbtdialogs-dev |
| 15:32.07 | qwerty12 | ooh, it's showing up as installed in my sbox |
| 15:34.43 | spencer_ | ok.. in that case, a really dumb question... how to get root for sb2? |
| 15:34.52 | qwerty12 | oh, sb2. |
| 15:34.53 | Stskeeps | fakeroot |
| 15:34.54 | qwerty12 | steps back |
| 15:34.55 | Stskeeps | oh, sb2 |
| 15:34.59 | Stskeeps | sb2 -R -e |
| 15:34.59 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 15:35.08 | spencer_ | i'm really new to this.. just got it last friday |
| 15:35.18 | spencer_ | sorry for being such a newbie. |
| 15:35.23 | Stskeeps | scratchbox1 might be less of a headache then :) |
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| 15:38.42 | derf | I've been doing this since 2007 and I'm still using sb1. |
| 15:39.19 | qwerty12 | sb2 is designed to give you headaches |
| 15:41.29 | spencer_ | i'm new so i just find whatever wiki i got online.. |
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| 15:42.05 | Meiz_n810 | thanks qwerty |
| 15:42.13 | Meiz_n810 | xchat working :P |
| 15:42.30 | qwerty12 | Hehe, good, now you can use a real irc client, not pidgin :P |
| 15:42.44 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: screenshot obligatory |
| 15:42.53 | Meiz_n810 | this does not take even near as much memory as pidgin took |
| 15:43.09 | qwerty12 | Pidgin + IRC don't go imo |
| 15:43.14 | qwerty12 | same with rtcomm |
| 15:43.42 | disco_stu | i've been using xchat from the repos, whats bad with it? |
| 15:43.54 | qwerty12 | nothing, xchat is the bomb :P |
| 15:44.12 | qwerty12 | waits for fans of irssi to come out |
| 15:44.25 | Stskeeps | on tablet xchat is neat but some things are annoying :P |
| 15:44.27 | disco_stu | i likemore irssi or bitchx |
| 15:44.42 | qwerty12 | disco_stu, I actually have bitchx for tablet... |
| 15:45.59 | disco_stu | nice.. but i dont know how comfortable it is to use without a hw keyboard |
| 15:46.09 | spencer_ | what about the intltool?? it said i have an older version |
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| 15:48.11 | RST38h | Samsung announces new 65nm ARM9 processor -- for digital photo frames |
| 15:48.21 | RST38h | qwerty: ircii here |
| 15:48.34 | Meizirkki | Mer starts to look "me" :P trac.tspre.org/meiz |
| 15:48.42 | qwerty12 | RST38h, an oldie I see :P |
| 15:48.45 | Meizirkki | check scrshots 5 6 7 etc |
| 15:48.45 | disco_stu | qwerty12, yours xchat play sounds? |
| 15:49.35 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: yeah, it starts to look cool :) |
| 15:49.46 | qwerty12 | disco_stu, dunno, I don't use sound |
| 15:50.06 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: hmm, aren't those scrollbars nice for touch? |
| 15:50.32 | Meizirkki | scrollbars? |
| 15:50.41 | Stskeeps | yeah |
| 15:50.47 | Stskeeps | http://trac.tspre.org/meiz/Screenshot-6.png |
| 15:50.55 | Stskeeps | they look wider than usua |
| 15:50.55 | Stskeeps | l |
| 15:51.11 | Meizirkki | i don't think they are wider |
| 15:51.16 | Stskeeps | k |
| 15:51.20 | Meizirkki | the are good :P |
| 15:51.31 | Meizirkki | and it is possible to use d-pad |
| 15:51.39 | Meizirkki | for scrolling |
| 15:52.17 | Meizirkki | scrshot5 is strange.. it happens when i start xchat.. |
| 15:52.33 | Stskeeps | maybe part of new hildon |
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| 15:53.26 | qwerty12 | Meizirkki, missing locales.. |
| 15:53.35 | Meizirkki | ok |
| 15:53.36 | disco_stu | qwerty12, well maybe flashing led would be nice |
| 15:53.42 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: i think we're missing some translations in general |
| 15:53.49 | Stskeeps | everything went haywire after new hildon-desktop |
| 15:54.49 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: you should post some scrshots at the screenshot thread at iTT |
| 15:55.03 | disco_stu | qwerty12, i have problems with powerlaunch, it wont uninstall either |
| 15:55.08 | Stskeeps | (with a disclaimer you're using some of the stuff from os2008) |
| 15:55.27 | qwerty12 | disco_stu, ooh, powerlaunch is a bitch to uninstall, what's your error? |
| 15:56.31 | disco_stu | something about dangling symlinks |
| 15:56.48 | disco_stu | it installed, but wasnt configured |
| 15:57.09 | Meiz_n810 | Stskeeps: posting... |
| 15:58.00 | qwerty12 | disco_stu, replace /usr/sbin/invoke-rc.d with this one: http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/invoke-rc.d.tar.gz |
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| 15:58.25 | disco_stu | qwerty12, ok :) |
| 15:58.40 | qwerty12 | I have the same problem so I edited the script not to exit and all works well for me now :) |
| 15:59.05 | disco_stu | qwerty12, http://slexy.org/view/s2lJrrOAAw |
| 15:59.29 | disco_stu | thats the output i had from dpkg |
| 15:59.41 | qwerty12 | yeah, you should be ok just replacing invoke-rc.d |
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| 16:03.13 | Stskeeps | GAN800 (and others), https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Mer_Repository_Setup <- seems sane? |
| 16:05.06 | disco_stu | qwerty12, it worked.. thanks :) |
| 16:06.28 | qwerty12 | disco_stu, good to hear :) |
| 16:06.56 | disco_stu | i dont have a clue what powerlaunch does |
| 16:07.14 | disco_stu | lol |
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| 16:08.32 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: Everything should be pretty easy, only the separate invitation thing is harder. |
| 16:08.45 | X-Fade | We might need to make another option for that. |
| 16:10.52 | Stskeeps | yeah - well, there can be multiple ways to gain the wished effect. like, list of keys allowed to start the builder (signatures) |
| 16:11.43 | Stskeeps | or we simply believe in the good of everyone and allow people to upload if they have an extras invite :) |
| 16:12.00 | Stskeeps | whatever gets things running the easiest, really |
| 16:12.31 | X-Fade | yeah, we can probably start with manually adding the list of keys. |
| 16:13.32 | GAN8001 | Stskeeps, the activity log is daily for the month of the Sprint |
| 16:13.45 | GAN8001 | So January 08 would be activity on tasks committed for January worked on in January |
| 16:13.56 | Stskeeps | k |
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| 16:15.15 | GAN8001 | doesn't have the energy to heart/thank all of sjgadsby's karma whoring. :P |
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| 16:16.55 | Meiz_n810 | Stskeeps: is there a way to get advanced-power or any battery meter.. |
| 16:17.03 | Meiz_n810 | working |
| 16:17.38 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: hald-addon-bme + advanced-power might work. im not sure we have all the python pieces yet |
| 16:17.58 | Meiz_n810 | k |
| 16:18.08 | Stskeeps | GAN800, saw Meiz's "what can you do with theming and icons from maemo" scrshot? |
| 16:18.48 | Stskeeps | ( http://trac.tspre.org/meiz/Screenshot-10.png for instance ) |
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| 16:20.27 | GAN800 | Ha |
| 16:20.32 | Stskeeps | i could be convinced that was maemo. |
| 16:21.00 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, can you prod Quim about the licensing? |
| 16:21.37 | Stskeeps | GAN800: we'll get to that, think we'll do a demo image first, that's 100% OSS, and then we make small demos of what is possible if X,Y,Z is relicensed |
| 16:21.38 | GAN800 | I'm interested to know whether we want to attack individual packages or what. |
| 16:21.52 | GAN800 | I'm thinking themeing stuff |
| 16:22.26 | GAN800 | I can't really imagine they see legacy themes as something they need to protect. . . . |
| 16:22.44 | Stskeeps | yeah, but icons may be an issue if they are similar to other nokia phones |
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| 16:23.01 | Stskeeps | we'll see what they say |
| 16:23.10 | Stskeeps | i think the bigger issue right now is tiny bits of hw support stuff |
| 16:23.22 | Stskeeps | themes and icons community can always work with, hw support not so much |
| 16:23.42 | GAN800 | Yeah |
| 16:23.43 | X-Fade | Pretty funny to see 100% cpu usage in all screenshots Meiz_n810 ;) |
| 16:23.57 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: scrshot always takes up 100%, it's very low otherwise |
| 16:24.05 | Stskeeps | but yeah, not convincing ;) |
| 16:24.07 | X-Fade | Stskeeps: yeah, but still ;) |
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| 16:25.14 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, article names should be sentence capitalization. :P |
| 16:25.33 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 16:25.58 | Stskeeps | noted |
| 16:26.06 | GAN800 | Thanks. ;) |
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| 16:32.35 | GAN8001 | sees Nokia phones on Engadget and wants a new tablet even more. |
| 16:33.20 | X-Fade | GAN800: OLED :) |
| 16:34.11 | qwerty12 | ciroip, is it ok if I put up a deb on the project page? :) |
| 16:34.16 | GAN8001 | X-Fade, just gotta find that LCD part number. . . . |
| 16:34.32 | ciroip | oh, buongionro qwerty12 |
| 16:34.49 | qwerty12 | hi ciroip :) |
| 16:34.50 | ciroip | you are the admin qwerty12 , |
| 16:35.05 | ciroip | you are allowed to do whatever you want :) |
| 16:35.10 | qwerty12 | ciroip, ok, will upload then, thanks :) |
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| 16:35.53 | ciroip | you are welcome |
| 16:36.22 | qwerty12 | I exported the wmclass so we can exit by pressing home :) |
| 16:36.54 | ciroip | watching my shitty code commented on ITT forum make me feel like showing my dirty underwear |
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| 16:37.19 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: i've put up new sdk instructions with libc6 being proper already from start btw |
| 16:37.20 | ciroip | great! that s was my main concern, not being able to close the app :) |
| 16:37.27 | qwerty12 | heh, I wouldn't have been able to get that far :) |
| 16:37.31 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, yeah, I saw :) |
| 16:37.56 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, as we can see from Meizirkki's screenshots, being built against libc 2.8 doesn't seem to be a problem :) |
| 16:38.03 | Stskeeps | yeah |
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| 16:39.42 | Stskeeps | GAN8001: i'm not confident the 12pt themes are entirely legal though |
| 16:42.00 | qwerty12 | ciroip, done! :) |
| 16:43.48 | ciroip | wow, watching a .deb for the flipclock make me shivering |
| 16:44.00 | ciroip | well, not really, but is cool |
| 16:44.20 | qwerty12 | hehe :) |
| 16:44.34 | Stskeeps | hmm, does maemo wiki support importing rss feeds? |
| 16:45.07 | Stskeeps | since we have bug integration already |
| 16:51.28 | GAN8001 | Stskeeps, not that I know of. |
| 16:51.32 | Stskeeps | k |
| 16:51.53 | GAN8001 | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/mediawiki/56344 |
| 16:51.55 | Stskeeps | could be interesting if we were to use microblogging instead of having to log in, write your activity summary, etc :P |
| 16:52.25 | GAN8001 | More directly: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RSS_Reader |
| 16:52.33 | GAN8001 | Open a bug if you think we should have it. |
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| 16:53.00 | Stskeeps | *nod* |
| 16:55.45 | Meizirkki | Is there a dbus-command od something to show up the task navigator? |
| 16:56.01 | Meizirkki | i would like to change aff is midori is fullscreenend etc... |
| 16:56.06 | Meizirkki | (in Mer again) |
| 16:56.16 | Meizirkki | s/aff/app |
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| 16:57.50 | Stskeeps | Meizirkki: yeah.. i think it's mce related possibly, and we dont have that just yet |
| 16:57.59 | Meizirkki | ok |
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| 17:04.05 | GuySoft | hey, i am in scracthbox.. and i want to compile a module for maemo. however it seems that the call uname -r gives out my current kernel verion. and not the one i want to work with.. is there a way to fix that? |
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| 17:07.49 | omicron23 | hi. the browser application on my n810 does not play flash movies any more. youtube etc. does not work any more. what can I do about that? any hints? |
| 17:09.25 | Stskeeps | andrewfblack: screenshots of MerEcho? |
| 17:09.27 | qwerty12 | Meizirkki, "dbus-send --type=signal --system /com/nokia/mce/signal com.nokia.mce.signal.sig_home_key_pressed_ind" works in maemo but I don't think there is mce in mer for you to be able to do that with :( |
| 17:09.34 | Stskeeps | (is it possible to hear an echo at the ocean?) |
| 17:10.22 | Meizirkki | i'll try |
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| 17:12.15 | Stskeeps | andrewfblack: looks interesting so far |
| 17:12.55 | Stskeeps | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=754&release_id=2254 (scroll down to MerEcho) |
| 17:14.24 | Meizirkki | is the home button F5? |
| 17:14.35 | qwerty12 | yep |
| 17:14.56 | qwerty12 | but it's mce that listens out for that, not hildon-desktop... |
| 17:15.03 | Meizirkki | well that looks very cool!!! :P (MerEcho) |
| 17:15.17 | Meizirkki | qwerty12: ok |
| 17:16.57 | Meizirkki | qwerty12: IT WORKS!! thanks a LOT! |
| 17:17.12 | Meizirkki | with xbindkeys |
| 17:17.19 | qwerty12 | Wicked! |
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| 17:21.40 | GAN8001 | omicron23, did you turn Flash off? |
| 17:21.42 | Stskeeps | and this is why scratchbox has a purpose: glib compile on native, emulator, 16 hours. scratchbox, 10 minutes. |
| 17:21.48 | GAN8001 | Or run out of RAM and have Flash turned off for you? |
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| 17:25.29 | ciroip | time for lunch here: qwerty12: so bitchy that comment about the missing icon :) tell me the resolution we need and Ill make up with something for next release :) |
| 17:26.28 | qwerty12 | hehe :P, I can't actually remember the sizes atm but I'll get back to you :). Enjoy lunch :) |
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| 18:15.05 | qwerty12 | heh, 0xFFFF 0.4 :) |
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| 18:25.58 | t_s_o | is thats whats messing things up? *looks at the number of joins and quits* |
| 18:30.42 | Stskeeps | just regular idleness |
| 18:34.14 | t_s_o | bad joke on my part... |
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| 18:44.48 | ciroip | back |
| 18:47.54 | Stskeeps | wb |
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| 18:49.11 | qwerty12 | ciroip, regarding icons, a 26x26, 40x40 & 64x64 one would be nice :) |
| 18:49.29 | ciroip | k |
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| 18:50.07 | ciroip | are tranpharent png fine? |
| 18:50.18 | qwerty12_N800 | ciroip, even better :) |
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| 19:04.51 | Stskeeps | X-Fade: ping |
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| 19:27.12 | GuySoft | hey, can anyone help me out here to cross-compile kernel modules? |
| 19:27.30 | Stskeeps | what kind of kernel module are you attempting? |
| 19:27.50 | GuySoft | Stskeeps, ov51x-jpeg |
| 19:27.59 | GuySoft | camera module.. |
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| 19:29.29 | GuySoft | Stskeeps, it has a few calls to uname -r .. and they point it to the wrong folder.. |
| 19:29.47 | Stskeeps | mm - edit to the right one, the kernel sys is a bit weird on maemo |
| 19:36.24 | GuySoft | just got it makeing, and got this: WARNING: Symbol version dump /targets/DIABLO_ARMEL/usr/src/kernel-source-diablo/Module.symvers is missing; modules will have no dependencies and modversions. |
| 19:36.29 | GuySoft | does that make sense? |
| 19:36.39 | Stskeeps | fair enough i guess |
| 19:37.31 | GuySoft | is it missing? |
| 19:37.59 | Stskeeps | did you compile the kernel, for good measure? |
| 19:38.10 | GuySoft | Stskeeps, i did not.. |
| 19:38.11 | GuySoft | i can try |
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| 19:38.50 | GuySoft | ill work on it |
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| 20:26.51 | christendoc | Still a work in progress, but notes are up on linux-omap/stlc44xx for gentoo n810. www.nosocomia.com/n810-gentoo |
| 20:30.47 | Stskeeps | christendoc: "I make no promises that it won't run away with your teenage daughter, step on your petunias, or melt your N810 into dead, blue cacodemon eye-goo" |
| 20:30.50 | Stskeeps | <3 |
| 20:30.55 | GuySoft | done compiling the kernel.. this is what i get: http://pastebin.com/m7d2efbb4 |
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| 20:31.52 | Stskeeps | christendoc: if you can, document what things you would prefer to have redistributable, and how a OS can allow gentoo to co-exist |
| 20:32.04 | Stskeeps | and what problematiques you have with the closed stuff |
| 20:32.16 | GuySoft | is annoyed he carnt get modules compiled.. cant get wxpython compiled.. |
| 20:33.02 | Stskeeps | christendoc: (serves both of us as we can point out why we need relicensing (prolly not open source) of some components) |
| 20:33.15 | christendoc | Stskeeps: good point. |
| 20:34.28 | christendoc | The firmare blob for WLAN is almost acceptable. Intel makes the same argument for doing that. It interests me that atheros doesn't, but I don't know if freq/intensity control are hardware rather than firmware in ath chips. |
| 20:34.45 | christendoc | retu on the other hand is just a pain in the ass with no reasonable stemming cause. |
| 20:35.01 | Stskeeps | mm |
| 20:35.34 | Stskeeps | i hope we'll have a bit of cross-distro cooperation with the pre-userland stuff, atleast |
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| 20:36.04 | Stskeeps | wb qwerty12_N800 |
| 20:36.26 | qwerty12_N800 | thanks Stskeeps, stupid watchdog :p |
| 20:37.01 | christendoc | Stskeeps: Do you know if the promises to open DSME in freemantle will affect retu chip? I can't really tell what DSME is. |
| 20:37.13 | Stskeeps | christendoc: no, dsme has nothing to deal with retu afaik |
| 20:38.09 | Stskeeps | besides that, we just need to make a justification of why we need ability to redistribute let's say, retutime, or the likes |
| 20:39.11 | christendoc | Yeah. I think it's you that first clued me into retutime. I've played with it a little now, but I'd prefer to stay initfs free and handle power management (DSME?) and freakin' hardware clock in my OWN init scripts. |
| 20:39.58 | Stskeeps | mm. we're pondering that initfs can be a good thing, or at least some kind of partition with some blobs and rescue capability |
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| 20:40.22 | christendoc | Are you and johnx the leads on deblet? |
| 20:40.31 | christendoc | (are there more than the two of you?) |
| 20:40.34 | Stskeeps | yeah, johnx started the debian port |
| 20:40.39 | Stskeeps | deblet is kinda dead now, mer is the next thing |
| 20:40.44 | christendoc | Got it. |
| 20:41.04 | Stskeeps | having a small fs where we have the hw-specific stuff that are blobs (firmware, retutime, other strange things), could be nice to have |
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| 20:41.17 | christendoc | I've been out of deblet/debian tinkering since about September. johnx helped me with some early stuff back then, though. |
| 20:41.21 | Stskeeps | *nod* |
| 20:41.40 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: pycentral: pycentral pkginstall: error byte-compiling files (625) |
| 20:41.47 | Stskeeps | this kinda stuff is what the eabi thing solves? |
| 20:41.51 | Stskeeps | (the other qemu) |
| 20:43.02 | qwerty12_N800 | probably... i've had success in bytecompiling mypaint and flipclock and otheres. I also get none of that sem_post function not implemented crap |
| 20:44.37 | Stskeeps | christendoc: lets say community got permission to distribute a small flash fs with the firmware, retutime and other blobs, would this be satisfactory for gentoo use? so it would be chroot /mnt/hwsupport retutime and such maybe |
| 20:44.53 | Stskeeps | and you can ln -s to the firmware and such |
| 20:45.38 | Stskeeps | ideally that info should just be public, but i don't think that's going to happen :P |
| 20:45.48 | christendoc | I've got no other work-around right now, so sure. That would work. What license do you propose? (What will allow redistribute, but not alter?) |
| 20:46.18 | Stskeeps | no clue - i think it's for discussion with nokia about that |
| 20:47.27 | Stskeeps | i think a simple redistribute as part of firmware images and such, for use on nokia internet tablets, or something :P i have -no- clue what kind of license would fit |
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| 20:48.34 | t_s_o | http://www.yankodesign.com/2008/12/15/toasty-charger/ <- anyone for a toasty battery? ;) |
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| 20:50.29 | Stskeeps | wb meiz |
| 20:51.04 | Stskeeps | christendoc: and if we did have a initfs, would being able to be kexec'ed through a bootmenu be alright for you? |
| 20:52.42 | Stskeeps | so you dont rely on what kernel is flashed |
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| 21:04.06 | Stskeeps | b-man: ta for launcher |
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| 21:04.44 | b-man | hello, i just sent it to you. :) |
| 21:04.51 | Stskeeps | yea, just saw it |
| 21:05.05 | b-man | what do you think? |
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| 21:05.43 | Stskeeps | good, - still would like to see the tar.gz extractor though, as that will be first way to really present to people |
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| 21:06.33 | Stskeeps | just something that quite simply, maybe with zenity, can set up a way for people to try and boot mer based on a tar.gz url or whatever |
| 21:06.40 | b-man | that is mostly just a mock-up, i'm still working on the actual installer. |
| 21:06.54 | Stskeeps | *nod* |
| 21:07.32 | fiferboy | Is gstreamer one of those unfortunate things that doesn't work in the ARMEL environment in scrathbox? |
| 21:08.03 | qwerty12_N800 | I don't think you have sound emulation in armel target |
| 21:08.17 | qwerty12_N800 | sound works in x86 target |
| 21:08.31 | qwerty12_N800 | and i think i'm jumping too far :/ |
| 21:09.33 | fiferboy | Well, as long as it works in one environment |
| 21:09.43 | Stskeeps | ponders idly |
| 21:10.00 | Stskeeps | why on earth does scratchbox insist on using a compiler in a native (-X86) environment.. |
| 21:11.07 | christendoc | Stskeeps: sorry, was away. Yeah, kexec would work. I'd personally prefer a clean kernel->boot setup, but if anyone else ever wanted gentoo-810, I'd setup a kexec chain for ease of use. |
| 21:11.46 | Stskeeps | *nod* |
| 21:12.15 | Stskeeps | well its good if we can show versatilelity, boot into mer, maemo, gentoo, android, if you want ;) |
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| 21:15.15 | christendoc | That would be impressive. |
| 21:15.54 | christendoc | Is anyone booting android directly yet? (I've kinda been in my own little gentoo world ... in case you couldn't tell) |
| 21:17.58 | Stskeeps | yeah, solca |
| 21:18.11 | Stskeeps | he's the one working on kexec and such too |
| 21:18.14 | Stskeeps | you two should sit down and talk |
| 21:18.15 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 21:18.34 | christendoc | How often does he show up here? |
| 21:19.07 | Stskeeps | often, just go "solca, ping?" and he'll answer when he's around :P |
| 21:20.00 | Stskeeps | he has the 2.6.28-rc6 going with wifi as well so |
| 21:20.07 | christendoc | nice! |
| 21:20.46 | christendoc | I had a git kernel patched up, and I was trying to patch the stl45xx code for the gpio change in 2.6.28; I gave up :) |
| 21:21.10 | christendoc | feel a little denser than usual... |
| 21:21.21 | christendoc | Just saw there's a git for stlc45xx |
| 21:22.02 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 21:22.18 | Stskeeps | http://guug.org/nit/ |
| 21:22.47 | Stskeeps | especially the nitdroid part would be interesting to you |
| 21:24.20 | christendoc | Nice site -- all of it. Solca's I assume? |
| 21:24.38 | Stskeeps | yeah |
| 21:25.11 | christendoc | yeah, saw his name 2 seconds later. I'm batting 1000 today. |
| 21:26.39 | christendoc | have you tried the nthCode android-n810 as well (found from solca's mention on his site) |
| 21:30.33 | b-man | @Stskeeps; Here's option layout of the actual installer; step 1, user selects weather to use advanced or simple installer from a zenity diolog, step 2, for both advanced and simple installer, user selects weather he/she wants the installer to partition their mmc if so, the installer automaticly partition/formats mmc and starts installing, if not, installer simply skips to installing; advanced user would be asked the same thing bu |
| 21:30.33 | b-man | t if user selects yes, installer would ask user weather to use sfdisk or cfdisk and then launch what thay have selected in the terminal and then be asked what rootfs format thay want (ext2 or ext3). step 3, simple but fast, download a rootfs.tar.gz and extract in partition or advanced but slow, bootstrap mer to partition. step 4 start installation.i'm still orginizing the layout a bit so things will likely change. |
| 21:30.44 | r2d2rogers | random...is there a way to view devices on a NIT like lspci ? |
| 21:31.00 | b-man | aaah, stupid keyboard! |
| 21:31.38 | qwerty12_N800 | r2d2rogers, there's lsusb & lshal depending on what you want |
| 21:32.10 | b-man | sorry about the doubble-post. :p |
| 21:33.09 | b-man | wait, did i doubble post or did my irc client think i doubble posted? |
| 21:33.12 | r2d2rogers | qwerty12_N800: thanks |
| 21:33.39 | b-man | never mind..... |
| 21:34.01 | Stskeeps | r2d2rogers: how's progress? |
| 21:34.04 | r2d2rogers | b-man: looks like it was just a long post split here |
| 21:34.12 | Stskeeps | b-man: and fine, sounds good |
| 21:34.26 | r2d2rogers | Stskeeps: not much, having fun re-learning compiling |
| 21:34.30 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 21:34.36 | Stskeeps | we have a scratchbox sdk now |
| 21:34.38 | r2d2rogers | patching too.. |
| 21:34.38 | Stskeeps | that might help :P |
| 21:34.39 | r2d2rogers | yeha |
| 21:34.44 | r2d2rogers | I saw the jaiku |
| 21:34.46 | Stskeeps | k |
| 21:35.00 | r2d2rogers | I'll have to load that at home when I get time |
| 21:35.40 | Stskeeps | you may have to set CFLAGS to target armv5el |
| 21:35.43 | r2d2rogers | trying to decide what I want to focus on, the network, or the input (enter key) issue |
| 21:35.46 | Stskeeps | as it's a 770 you're dealing with |
| 21:37.04 | r2d2rogers | got it |
| 21:37.05 | r2d2rogers | I love habing a vim based wiki for my notes |
| 21:37.12 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 21:37.55 | Stskeeps | saw meiz's scrshot earlier? http://trac.tspre.org/meiz/Screenshot-10.png |
| 21:37.56 | Stskeeps | with a bit of copying of theme and icons |
| 21:37.57 | qwerty12_N800 | you shouldn't have to set cflags for 770 unless you wish to optmise it for the 770 processor |
| 21:38.25 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: i'm not confident what the arm compiler targets we took :P |
| 21:39.05 | qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, hehe, generally speaking then, cflags shouldn't be set :) |
| 21:39.09 | r2d2rogers | status on Mer770, can boot to responswive hildonesque desktop, can run programs from the menus, but cannot get the enter key to work from matchbox-keyboard or the center fo rthe D-pad |
| 21:39.16 | Stskeeps | *nod* |
| 21:39.24 | r2d2rogers | sapwood-server not running |
| 21:39.25 | Stskeeps | may be a matter of xmodmap stuff or xkbdata |
| 21:39.35 | r2d2rogers | can use usb networking |
| 21:39.56 | r2d2rogers | hAh |
| 21:40.22 | r2d2rogers | hildon-input-method wants more plugins? something like that... is there something more I can add to try that? |
| 21:40.37 | Stskeeps | mm. sec |
| 21:40.41 | r2d2rogers | k |
| 21:41.28 | Stskeeps | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=221728&postcount=19 |
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| 21:41.51 | r2d2rogers | thanks |
| 21:41.53 | r2d2rogers | will dig |
| 21:44.24 | r2d2rogers | I guess the other big thing I'm hoping for from mer is getting the speaker working vs OS2008HE |
| 21:44.42 | Stskeeps | shouldnt be impossible i guess |
| 21:45.27 | r2d2rogers | about what I figure :) |
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| 21:53.29 | hendry | which package contains the maemo on screen keyboard? |
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| 21:53.55 | Stskeeps | hildon-input-method and friends |
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| 21:58.41 | omicron23 | Hi. I cannot play flash movies in browser any more.even though it says swf plugin enabled in components.on n810 os2008.can you assist me in getting it working again? |
| 22:01.16 | r2d2rogers | Stskeeps: success, HIM gies me a working enter key |
| 22:01.30 | r2d2rogers | but it only works for gtk apps right? |
| 22:02.25 | Stskeeps | r2d2rogers: yeah |
| 22:02.29 | Stskeeps | but good we have working enter key :P |
| 22:03.05 | r2d2rogers | worked for address bar for midori, but not body of page... not coming up |
| 22:03.51 | Stskeeps | yeah.. its weird like that |
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| 22:04.25 | r2d2rogers | it's also not happy with sapwood not being present |
| 22:04.42 | Stskeeps | probably |
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| 22:15.38 | Stskeeps | i really wonder why there's i386 targets in sb |
| 22:15.53 | Stskeeps | and why it doesn't just make a pass-through to the targets only compilers |
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| 22:29.53 | bstock | hey any major difference between the first DIABLO os release and the latest DIABLO? |
| 22:30.24 | qwerty12_N800 | browser improvements |
| 22:30.52 | bstock | hmm |
| 22:30.53 | qwerty12_N800 | lots of other things too, you don't gain by not updating |
| 22:31.08 | bstock | is it possible to upgrade without having to reinstall all my apps? |
| 22:31.27 | bstock | actually can i pull that update via the os's manager? |
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| 22:31.43 | qwerty12_N800 | that's the point of ssu, it should show as a update in app manager |
| 22:31.53 | bstock | ah ok cool |
| 22:32.50 | bstock | hmm maybe i'm already running it then, how long ago was it released |
| 22:33.30 | qwerty12_N800 | been around a while now, version number is 36-5 |
| 22:34.04 | bstock | alright if it's delivered through the update manager i prob already have it, thought i'd have to install it via usb |
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| 23:24.08 | sp3000 | ooh, tablet porn. http://drkscrtlv.livejournal.com/301585.html |
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| 23:40.31 | lardman | wonders if the DSP compiler is very good |
| 23:40.52 | lardman | mainly as when I add intrinsics it slows down the code :) |
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| 23:44.44 | lcuk | lardman intrinsics? |
| 23:46.46 | lardman | yeah DSP built-ins |
| 23:48.39 | GAN8001 | lardman, what's the LCD part number? |
| 23:49.12 | lardman | GAN8001: ? |
| 23:49.26 | GAN8001 | lardman, A565AKM something |
| 23:49.28 | lcuk | lardman, dsp built in structs and functions? |
| 23:49.46 | GAN8001 | It's in that list I sent you. |
| 23:50.29 | lardman | ah, hang on I'll take a look |
| 23:50.52 | GAN8001 | begins prodding lardman impatiently with a stick. :P |
| 23:53.21 | lardman | sorry, I don't seem to have it here |
| 23:53.29 | lardman | wonders what happened to that email |
| 23:53.35 | GAN8001 | lol |
| 23:53.41 | lardman | I can grep the source quickly though, hang on |
| 23:54.14 | GAN8001 | ACX565AKM |
| 23:55.32 | lardman | well I needn't have bothered then ;) |
| 23:57.16 | lcuk | pmsl |
| 23:59.18 | GAN8001 | lardman, I forwarded it again. :P |
| 23:59.44 | GAN8001 | lcuk, it's a matter of making other people do things for me. :P |
