| 00:00.11 | qwerty12_N800 | but you have to install it from the app manager yourself |
| 00:00.11 | laubersm | if I run into trouble - is the the right place for update help? |
| 00:00.11 | laubersm | I can install it myself |
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| 00:10.49 | jakemaheu | hello all |
| 00:11.29 | jakemaheu | guess what I installed today? |
| 00:12.46 | zeenix | jakemaheu: tell us |
| 00:13.13 | jakemaheu | windows 7 |
| 00:13.18 | jakemaheu | build 6801 |
| 00:13.47 | jakemaheu | i've run xp pro for the past, um, as long as it's been out, and I'm seriously considering using this regularly |
| 00:14.18 | zeenix | hmm.. not sure anyone on this channel will be interested in that? :) |
| 00:14.32 | jakemaheu | meh, it still runs great |
| 00:14.44 | zeenix | unless you installed in on an internet tablet |
| 00:15.07 | jakemaheu | i have most (read: all the important media and files) on a 200gb drive separated from my regular 80gb drive |
| 00:15.21 | jakemaheu | meh, don't make me pull a thoughtfix on you guys |
| 00:19.07 | jakemaheu | for those who don't know: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1nS9kOtA7A |
| 00:26.08 | jakemaheu | is there a way to get GIMP without easy debain or the lot? |
| 00:26.14 | jakemaheu | *debian |
| 00:27.31 | Mousey | huh? |
| 00:27.54 | Mousey | http://www.gimp.org/downloads/ |
| 00:28.12 | jakemaheu | on the tablet |
| 00:28.47 | Mousey | oh |
| 00:28.48 | Mousey | nm |
| 00:29.07 | jakemaheu | is it feasable to simply compile it on the tablet with make? |
| 00:29.36 | Mousey | i'd crosscompile if i were you.. and why are you trying to fit an elephant in a shoebox anyway? |
| 00:30.22 | jakemaheu | i dunno, just curious |
| 00:30.30 | jakemaheu | how big is it compiled? |
| 00:30.31 | Mousey | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/archive/index.php?t-5903.html |
| 00:31.49 | jakemaheu | tyvm |
| 00:31.51 | jakemaheu | brb |
| 00:33.23 | Mousey | np |
| 00:33.41 | Mousey | the gimp is gargantuhuge |
| 00:34.18 | Mousey | like fitting whale in dingy |
| 00:35.16 | jakemaheu | i love that word |
| 00:35.27 | jakemaheu | gargantuhuge |
| 00:35.41 | jakemaheu | i'm reading that log right now tho |
| 00:35.55 | Mousey | good luck |
| 00:38.24 | jakemaheu | holy crap |
| 00:38.46 | jakemaheu | i only have 8.12mb of free space on my internal flash |
| 00:39.02 | jakemaheu | so many people's complaints now make sense |
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| 00:40.04 | qwerty12_N800 | ~clone-sd |
| 00:40.14 | qwerty12_N800 | ~boot-sd |
| 00:40.15 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, boot-sd is https://wiki.maemo.org/Booting_from_a_flash_card |
| 00:40.19 | qwerty12_N800 | even |
| 00:42.04 | jakemaheu | booting from a flash card just seems so inconvenient to me |
| 00:42.06 | jakemaheu | i dunno |
| 00:56.04 | dystopia | how long did it take you to install windows 7? you could have done something worthwhile with that time instead... |
| 00:57.29 | jakemaheu | honestly, like 30 min at most, prolly 20 |
| 00:57.40 | jakemaheu | i played with my tablet while i waited and my lappy with ubuntu |
| 00:57.54 | qwerty12_N800 | hehe, windows 2000 took me 4 hours :p |
| 00:58.02 | jakemaheu | nice |
| 00:58.12 | jakemaheu | xp usually takes like a full hour |
| 00:58.16 | jakemaheu | (xp pro) |
| 00:59.01 | jakemaheu | it runs as smoothly as xp pro on my ancient system (amd athlon xp+ 2500, 1 gb ddr, 80gb hdd) |
| 00:59.30 | jakemaheu | oh, also radeon x1300 pro agp |
| 00:59.34 | jakemaheu | my comp sucks |
| 01:00.01 | dystopia | perky |
| 01:01.46 | dystopia | in belgium the poor get free 2nd hand PC from government |
| 01:02.07 | dystopia | maybe including some nice government secrets a-la USBUK =] |
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| 01:02.40 | dystopia | in the UK, the MI6 beats YOU with an USB stick... |
| 01:02.56 | StsN800 | tablet needs to bee mpte, udsble when drunlk! |
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| 01:03.57 | dystopia | hmm, i draw the line elsewhere... if you can use it on LSD its usable software |
| 01:04.12 | jakemaheu | that's like using canola regualarly |
| 01:04.16 | jakemaheu | *regularly |
| 01:04.40 | jakemaheu | btw, hai stskeeps |
| 01:04.49 | jakemaheu | er, "stsN800" |
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| 01:09.10 | StsN800 | hai |
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| 01:21.02 | jakemaheu | i'm breaking a habit and replacing it with altoids |
| 01:21.06 | jakemaheu | :D |
| 01:24.22 | jakemaheu | you'll have to guess the habit tho |
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| 01:48.15 | user_ | So Joseph and his pregnant fiancee turn up on Xmas Eve and there is no room at the inn. |
| 01:48.15 | user_ | Silly! You need to book weeks ahead at Xmas! |
| 01:48.31 | user_ | Had they thought ahead they could have had a nice warm room in the pub. |
| 01:48.45 | user_ | Mary would have had the benefit of a midwife while Joe |
| 01:48.58 | user_ | was downstairs singing Xmas carols round the tree when the shepherds turned up. |
| 01:49.10 | user_ | Then the three wise men would roll in and join in the party with wine and ale |
| 01:49.29 | user_ | flowing like crazy. Once she drops the sprog, Mary comes down |
| 01:49.47 | user_ | and joins in the booze-up. "It's a boy!" and cigars all round. |
| 01:50.10 | user_ | THAT's the proper way to start a religion. |
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| 01:53.50 | user_ | Happy Xmas everyone. |
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| 02:21.55 | whooper | sweet ,my android flash worked! |
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| 02:32.07 | Mousey | wasn't jesus born in the spring? |
| 02:38.18 | whooper | i thought it was in december, lol |
| 02:38.39 | whooper | wasn't the whole idea of christmas to celebrate the supposed birth of jesus? |
| 02:38.58 | zakkm | wasnt jesus jewish? |
| 02:39.04 | whooper | lol he's a heretic |
| 02:39.05 | zakkm | maybe his "birth" was the day he came christian |
| 02:39.08 | whooper | ah |
| 02:39.14 | zakkm | just a guess ;p |
| 02:39.15 | whooper | that would make sense |
| 02:39.18 | whooper | some, at least |
| 02:39.18 | zakkm | you know how its like uhh |
| 02:39.22 | whooper | yeah |
| 02:39.25 | zakkm | you put yourself in water or something? |
| 02:39.29 | zakkm | and then your "born" ? |
| 02:39.34 | zakkm | i dont know christian religion .. sorry |
| 02:39.40 | zakkm | maybe its that |
| 02:39.47 | whooper | same here, i'm a pastafarian |
| 02:39.55 | whooper | go FSM! |
| 02:39.56 | zakkm | whats that.. i heard that before |
| 02:40.08 | whooper | flying spaghetti monster |
| 02:40.15 | whooper | veganza.org |
| 02:41.00 | whooper | er, www.venganza.org |
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| 02:43.18 | derf | Christmas is in December because the winter solstice the pagans celebrated was in December. |
| 02:43.39 | derf | Just like Easter used to be a fertility rite (hence the easter eggs). |
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| 02:57.20 | whooper | who here is running the NITdroid port? |
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| 03:23.56 | jakemaheu | is anyone still on here? |
| 03:25.14 | r2d2rogers | o/ |
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| 05:49.34 | rm_you | omfg finals almost done with |
| 05:50.22 | rm_you | i haven't been home in close to two weeks >_< |
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| 08:35.52 | spsneo | hello all |
| 08:36.04 | spsneo | I want to contribute to maemo as a developer |
| 08:36.08 | spsneo | how to start? |
| 08:37.06 | `0660 | there's quite a lot of documentation on the maemo.org website |
| 08:40.26 | pupnik | here is a preconfigured dev environment spsneo http://maemovmware.garage.maemo.org/ |
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| 08:42.44 | mavhc | now that's handy |
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| 08:46.12 | spsneo | pupnik: thanks |
| 08:46.24 | spsneo | pupnik: Actually i am a kernel hacker |
| 08:46.34 | spsneo | so I would like to do something in kernel internals |
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| 08:47.12 | pupnik | fanoush has done some modifications to kernels - high speed mmc access |
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| 08:47.54 | pupnik | you could get the 3D GPU working with opengl :) |
| 08:48.13 | spsneo | anything else? |
| 08:48.23 | spsneo | pupnik: is there any list of open projects? |
| 08:48.36 | pupnik | i don't know anything bout kernels. garage.maemo.org has collaborative projects |
| 08:49.27 | pupnik | wow, i make a good bowl of ramen |
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| 08:50.00 | spsneo | pupnik: ok let me check out |
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| 09:49.15 | Meiz_mer | Stskeeps: are you alive |
| 09:50.38 | Meiz_mer | i cannot upload to picasa, so what was the scp command :question: |
| 09:50.50 | Stskeeps | sec |
| 09:50.54 | Stskeeps | just woke up, massive hangover |
| 09:51.07 | Meiz_mer | k |
| 09:55.23 | Meiz_mer | i installed something funny from deblet repo, dsme-tools i guess, and now the screen turns off automatically :P |
| 09:56.09 | RST38h | he he he |
| 09:56.13 | RST38h | moo sts |
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| 09:57.26 | Stskeeps | Meiz_mer: yeah, that one is neat :P |
| 09:57.38 | Stskeeps | wrote the .py's myself, with protocol hints from powerlaunch |
| 09:57.52 | Meiz_mer | does somebody see anything weird in this pic http://trac.tspre.org/meiz/Screenshot-4.png |
| 09:58.15 | Stskeeps | yes/no.. what client is it? |
| 09:58.16 | Stskeeps | pidgin? |
| 09:58.22 | Meiz_mer | pidgin yes |
| 09:58.37 | Meiz_mer | bit mixing with echo theme :P |
| 09:58.43 | Stskeeps | oh! |
| 09:58.57 | Stskeeps | well that's obviously neat |
| 09:59.31 | Meiz_mer | echo theme is not working |
| 09:59.36 | Meiz_mer | the transparency |
| 09:59.48 | Stskeeps | only mb theme or both? |
| 10:00.05 | Meiz_mer | but i forgot to change matchbox-theme, in start-hildon |
| 10:00.08 | Stskeeps | ah |
| 10:00.47 | Meiz_mer | echo as a hildon theme looks ugly |
| 10:01.07 | Meiz_mer | because transparency wont work |
| 10:01.23 | Stskeeps | mm |
| 10:01.34 | Stskeeps | lack of some gfx prolly |
| 10:01.44 | Meiz_mer | there is a problem with gimp |
| 10:02.40 | Meiz_mer | as in maemo three browsers are shown as one in the panel. so are gimp windows in mer, but it is impossible to choose witch one to open |
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| 10:03.22 | Stskeeps | yeah.. cos of it not really fitting into the hildon form factor |
| 10:03.32 | Meiz_mer | k |
| 10:03.47 | Meiz_mer | dsmetool is missing |
| 10:03.49 | Stskeeps | and that's where stuff like qole's easy debian scripts come in |
| 10:03.51 | Stskeeps | yeah, ignore that |
| 10:03.56 | Meiz_mer | esd naggs about it |
| 10:04.14 | Stskeeps | mm |
| 10:04.38 | Meiz_mer | changing volume from abv-bk crashes hildon |
| 10:04.49 | Stskeeps | yeah, probably |
| 10:04.59 | Stskeeps | it changes some gconf or something |
| 10:05.04 | Stskeeps | which probably doesn't exist |
| 10:05.18 | Meiz_mer | ok |
| 10:05.38 | Meiz_mer | crashing problem appeared when i installed osso-esd |
| 10:06.27 | Stskeeps | fact is we probably won't have osso-esd, but have pulseaudio with esound compat instead |
| 10:06.39 | Meiz_mer | ok |
| 10:07.19 | Meiz_mer | bluetooth works well |
| 10:07.46 | Stskeeps | ok, command line or? |
| 10:07.54 | Meiz_mer | bluez-gnome |
| 10:08.07 | Stskeeps | k |
| 10:08.24 | Meiz_mer | applet is not shown as default, but it is useless anyway |
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| 10:35.20 | Stskeeps | suihkulokki: ping |
| 10:43.08 | suihkulokki | Stskeeps: pong |
| 10:45.59 | Stskeeps | suihkulokki: so, let's say i have an old install of glibc on my sb2-running computer, and a more updated glibc in the tools distribution. this causes problems doesn't it? (i have stuff like /bin/mkdir: /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.7' not found (required by /bin/mkdir) |
| 10:46.46 | Stskeeps | just something i noticed |
| 10:47.24 | Stskeeps | if i did let's say, gutsy tools distribution (similar to sb2-running machine), it works fine |
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| 10:59.46 | Stskeeps | morning lcuk |
| 11:00.29 | RST38h | lcuk |
| 11:00.29 | lcuk | urgle burgle. good mornin Stskeeps, feels like i slept for about 2 hours |
| 11:00.29 | qwerty12 | hey lcuk |
| 11:00.35 | RST38h | qwert |
| 11:00.42 | qwerty12 | RST38 |
| 11:00.56 | Stskeeps | lcuk: hangover too? |
| 11:01.30 | lcuk | could say that |
| 11:01.55 | lcuk | and im at the bottom of my baccy pouch, its all dry n horrid |
| 11:01.59 | Stskeeps | notes to himself a sdk will always take up a lot of space |
| 11:02.39 | lcuk | notes that the partial sdk on my n810 doesnt take up *that* much space. i had to uninstall crysis to fit it though |
| 11:03.48 | lcuk | ive got a blister on my thumb from yesterdays bacon cooking. the thing is, its shaped like a mini frying pan |
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| 11:05.25 | lcuk | RST38h, did you see the post a couple of weeks back about tearfree rgb |
| 11:07.27 | lcuk | taps his microphone |
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| 11:12.51 | RST38h | lcuk: no, what was it? |
| 11:13.00 | RST38h | was it from Serge? |
| 11:14.07 | lcuk | yeah |
| 11:14.07 | lcuk | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=246615#post246615 |
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| 11:24.26 | suihkulokki | Stskeeps: hmm.. so the "mkdir" in tools distro still uses libs from host distro? |
| 11:24.34 | RST38h | expects Tracker to become the most hated daemon in Fremantle |
| 11:24.38 | suihkulokki | that sounds bad |
| 11:24.40 | Stskeeps | suihkulokki: it looks like this, yeah |
| 11:24.53 | RST38h | It will eclipse our old friend the media crawler in the degree of hate! |
| 11:25.01 | Stskeeps | RST38h: successor indeed |
| 11:25.40 | suihkulokki | the whole point of tools distro should be to make you independent of host distro |
| 11:25.48 | RST38h | the desktop version just ate 200+MB of my disk space |
| 11:28.29 | Stskeeps | suihkulokki: i guess noone really noticed it cos they're on updated distros :P |
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| 11:32.09 | Stskeeps | wb meiz |
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| 11:32.36 | Meiz_n810 | There is xchat for Mer but it depends on "gnomevfs" whatever |
| 11:32.40 | Meiz_n810 | :( |
| 11:32.47 | Stskeeps | yeah.. the old problem |
| 11:33.01 | qwerty12 | Compile the maemo one then, I did it in a mer i386 chroot fine |
| 11:33.14 | lcuk | shame theres noone here with an intimate knowledge of the irc protocol |
| 11:33.31 | Stskeeps | doesn't know anything |
| 11:33.37 | qwerty12 | heh |
| 11:33.53 | Stskeeps | suihkulokki: the funny fact is, /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 doesn't exist in tools distribution. |
| 11:33.58 | qwerty12 | lcuk, making liqirc? |
| 11:34.21 | lcuk | a kickass clutterified irc client which also ties your friends in chan with real friends and keeps histories of convos amongst emails and stuff ;) |
| 11:34.39 | christendoc | Howdy. I'm compiling n8x0-80.80.14 patches to the 2.6.27 patched linux-omap kernel, but it fails to flash. (maemo kernels flash fine). Any advice? |
| 11:34.56 | christendoc | File size a potential problem? (it's over 2M) |
| 11:35.23 | Stskeeps | mm, solca's a good place to ask those problems. but yes, 2m is the limit |
| 11:35.38 | christendoc | That helps. I'll get it under 2. |
| 11:36.26 | lcuk | christendoc, if you do a global search and replace through the code and remove all those extra silly ";" characters you will save loads of space when you compile it |
| 11:36.46 | christendoc | oh really ... |
| 11:37.00 | Meiz_n810 | solca is not here right now, but he has compiled 2.6.28 for n8x0 |
| 11:37.02 | lcuk | ya rly |
| 11:37.03 | Stskeeps | suihkulokki: and removing /usr/lib:/lib: etc from LD_LIBRARY_PATH makes it work again |
| 11:37.32 | christendoc | now that's one I would not have thought to try. |
| 11:38.48 | christendoc | Ok to build linux-omap in a maemo scratchbox or no? |
| 11:38.56 | Stskeeps | suihkulokki: (within sb2.config in target conf) |
| 11:39.03 | christendoc | Can cross compile if need be. |
| 11:41.30 | Stskeeps | we usually do that :P |
| 11:41.55 | christendoc | which? scratchbox or cross compile? |
| 11:42.16 | Stskeeps | scratchbox is a cross compilation toolkit :P |
| 11:42.24 | christendoc | good point ... |
| 11:42.46 | suihkulokki | Stskeeps: right, that''s worth pointing to the sdk+ people |
| 11:43.12 | Stskeeps | k |
| 11:43.36 | RST38h | Sts, suihkulokki: btw, has the latest sdk+ fixed the --host-tools option? |
| 11:43.36 | Stskeeps | well, it's more of a sb2 problem than sdk+, or are they the same thing? :P |
| 11:43.44 | RST38h | would like to move away from etch finally |
| 11:44.17 | Stskeeps | RST38h: i'm attempting to use jaunty/mer itself as tools distribution |
| 11:44.51 | Stskeeps | so far its working :P |
| 11:45.00 | Stskeeps | after fixing the odd ld_library_path probelm |
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| 12:02.08 | Stskeeps | woo, progress. src/dash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.14, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped |
| 12:02.11 | Stskeeps | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:05.12 | christendoc | Got it to 1.9 and it flashed. Thanks Stskeeps. |
| 12:06.44 | Stskeeps | np |
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| 12:14.40 | Stskeeps | ponders to use sb1 just to have some crap working. |
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| 12:42.31 | Stskeeps | sigh. it can build a full package, but fails at generating source package, or making md5sums. |
| 12:42.34 | Stskeeps | sigh. |
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| 13:14.39 | t_s_o | hrmf, im not sure what kind of estimative magic the N800 is doing, but no way can a 10% drop in battery pr 3 hours convert into a 6 day standby... |
| 13:15.45 | lcuk | t_s_o, i always thought the logic was based on voodoo and by choosing random pixels from the camera sensor and stuff |
| 13:16.05 | t_s_o | you may not be that far off ;) |
| 13:16.37 | lcuk | but if its busy doing something when asked the first time it may well under estimate based on specifically what it was doing right then, not a better average |
| 13:17.32 | lcuk | (incidentally, i would have said it uses the planetary alignment, but that requires gps :D :P) |
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| 13:19.14 | mavhc | good idea to use the camera for random number generator though |
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| 13:19.46 | GAN800 | t_s_o, the standby time is based on a pessimistic idle consumption rate |
| 13:20.18 | lcuk | mavhc, but if we use all the randomness from the camera, we will be left with useless images of peoples faces and stuff :P |
| 13:20.30 | lcuk | mornin GAN800 :) |
| 13:20.56 | lcuk | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=249410 :D seen this? |
| 13:32.00 | t_s_o | GAN800: strange then that in my case results in a highly optimistic standby duration... |
| 13:34.21 | lcuk | ask the same question when your machine is totally idle and you will get a different answer to if its busy |
| 13:34.28 | GAN800 | t_s_o, because you're not actually getting to idle. . . |
| 13:34.56 | GAN800 | Something's using cycles, you're connected to wifi, whatever. |
| 13:35.00 | t_s_o | i worry about that, but from what i can tell, the only likely offender is hildon-desktop... |
| 13:35.18 | lcuk | t_s_o, gan is right, it could have nothing to do with current cpu state |
| 13:35.32 | lcuk | theres more in the box than can be checked by looking at load average |
| 13:35.51 | lcuk | ;) you might be running your powervr chip :P |
| 13:35.53 | t_s_o | having a terminal app write to internal flash every 30 min should not have this big a impact, should it? |
| 13:36.18 | lcuk | depends if "something" is a 400mb file or not |
| 13:36.41 | t_s_o | nah, just some quick ascii to collect the data for battery-graph ;) |
| 13:36.42 | lcuk | and what mechanism do you use for waiting for 30minutes? |
| 13:36.45 | GAN800 | t_s_o, leaving xterm open messes up idling |
| 13:36.57 | t_s_o | ye crud... |
| 13:37.17 | lcuk | it might be more practical to consider a true monitoriing daemon |
| 13:37.28 | GAN800 | We need powertop |
| 13:37.41 | t_s_o | or something similar... |
| 13:38.33 | Stskeeps | yeah, isn't powertop possible with our new 2.6.28 working kernels and wifi? |
| 13:40.46 | t_s_o | hmm, seems i can run the logger without using xterm, just need to kill it in some other way at a later date... |
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| 13:52.17 | lcuk | goes to see santa |
| 13:54.27 | keesj | Sinterklaas FTW |
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| 13:55.09 | gnuton | hello |
| 13:58.53 | Stskeeps | hi hi |
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| 14:03.26 | Meiz_n810 | where can i get maemo-xchat source? |
| 14:03.26 | jakemaheu | morning everybody |
| 14:03.30 | Meiz_n810 | morning |
| 14:03.33 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: on extras probably |
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| 14:03.55 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/source/x/xchat/ |
| 14:04.08 | Meiz_n810 | ah |
| 14:04.38 | Meiz_n810 | i was looking from "non-source" dir |
| 14:05.31 | jakemaheu | grah I think windows 7 has liek one bug, but i'm not sure if it's my router or windows 7 |
| 14:06.12 | Stskeeps | it |
| 14:06.16 | jakemaheu | when it disconnects every so often, it reconnects and people on my wireless network get kicked off (even wired connections) |
| 14:06.19 | Stskeeps | 's beta/early beta.., dude :P |
| 14:06.31 | jakemaheu | meh |
| 14:06.40 | jakemaheu | and i'm using vista drivers |
| 14:06.55 | jakemaheu | it seems to be holding up better now, tho |
| 14:07.09 | Meiz_n810 | is win7 better than vista? (the early-beta) :P |
| 14:09.11 | jakemaheu | i've only played with vista a bit, but 7 is WAAAY better |
| 14:09.23 | jakemaheu | if you get it, get build 6801 |
| 14:09.33 | jakemaheu | the newest one is biggy i hear |
| 14:09.38 | jakemaheu | *buggy |
| 14:09.43 | jakemaheu | brb, breakfast |
| 14:10.12 | qwerty12_N800 | hrm, tempting but i hate having to reinstall grub |
| 14:10.58 | Meiz_n810 | qwerty: you built maemo-xchat for i386? |
| 14:11.08 | Meiz_n810 | how can i get libconic0-dev |
| 14:11.08 | qwerty12_N800 | Meiz_n810, yes |
| 14:11.28 | qwerty12_N800 | i built my own but i think stskeeps has it |
| 14:11.36 | qwerty12_N800 | in his repo |
| 14:12.25 | Meiz_n810 | libconic0-dev? apt says notfound... is libconic0-dev source is extras-devel? |
| 14:12.39 | qwerty12_N800 | no, in sdk repo |
| 14:13.03 | Meiz_n810 | okay |
| 14:13.25 | qwerty12_N800 | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/diablo/free/libc/libconic/ |
| 14:14.20 | jakemaheu | @qwerty: i just installed it on a spare 20gb drive, took like 20-30 min to install |
| 14:14.41 | jakemaheu | my dad is a giant geek too, so we've got a stockpile of spare parts |
| 14:14.54 | Stskeeps | ponders if scratchbox1 will save the day. |
| 14:15.03 | jakemaheu | would you like to hear a story? |
| 14:15.10 | Meiz_n810 | qwerty12_N800: thanks |
| 14:15.13 | qwerty12_N800 | jakemaheu, alas, I don't have available. i killed my last 20gb trying to replace my xbox's hd :/ |
| 14:15.21 | jakemaheu | esd? |
| 14:15.23 | qwerty12_N800 | s/have/have one/ |
| 14:15.50 | qwerty12_N800 | jakemaheu, no, just stopped spinning:/ |
| 14:15.50 | jakemaheu | static killed it? |
| 14:15.52 | jakemaheu | ah |
| 14:16.03 | jakemaheu | what kind? |
| 14:16.22 | qwerty12_N800 | some old ibm, circa 2001 |
| 14:16.29 | jakemaheu | ah, i see |
| 14:16.47 | jakemaheu | if it was a barracuda, you'd probably still have some warranty left |
| 14:16.50 | jakemaheu | lol |
| 14:16.55 | jakemaheu | brb, cereal |
| 14:18.07 | qwerty12_N800 | hehe |
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| 14:21.35 | jakemaheu | nom i'm back |
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| 14:25.38 | jakemaheu | who here has nitdroid? |
| 14:26.20 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: what was the non-shitty qemu for EABI in sb1 again? |
| 14:27.06 | Meiz_n810 | what should i do when there is no configure file? |
| 14:27.38 | Meiz_n810 | jakemaheu: NITdroid works pretty well now :) |
| 14:27.48 | qwerty12_N800 | Meiz_n810, add ./autogen.sh before configure in debian/rules |
| 14:28.03 | jakemaheu | anyone with an n800? |
| 14:28.03 | qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, can't remember. what's your problem? |
| 14:28.29 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: .. where do i start :P nah, i got it - qemu-arm-cvs-m |
| 14:28.44 | qwerty12_N800 | hehe |
| 14:29.03 | Stskeeps | but i just think i managed to get it to work |
| 14:29.44 | qwerty12_N800 | i actually use that patched qemu-arm-eabi with the python fix |
| 14:29.49 | Stskeeps | ah |
| 14:30.37 | Meiz_n810 | where to get autoreconf? |
| 14:30.52 | qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, but i'm glad that you went the sb1 route (for now anyway) ;) |
| 14:31.43 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: apt-get install autoconf |
| 14:31.48 | Meiz_n810 | thanks |
| 14:31.50 | qwerty12_N800 | Meiz_n810, do a apt-get install autotools-dev |
| 14:31.53 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: well. sb2 is sane, but it has some very annoying bugs |
| 14:32.02 | Stskeeps | and when they're fixed, sure.. |
| 14:32.03 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 14:32.07 | qwerty12_N800 | sb2 is a bug |
| 14:32.20 | Stskeeps | yes and no.. :P |
| 14:33.24 | qwerty12_N800 | As a stubborn bastard, I disagree. :P |
| 14:33.32 | Stskeeps | yes |
| 14:33.39 | Stskeeps | i just want a working sdk honestly |
| 14:38.40 | Stskeeps | i was -so- close with sb2 :P |
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| 14:42.16 | *** topic/#maemo by Stskeeps -> http://maemo.org | Maemo Community Council http://maemo.org/community/council | http://mxr.maemo.org | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/ | Mer bootstrapping meeting 2008-12-14 20:00 UTC in #maemo-meeting |
| 14:44.39 | Meiz_n810 | what should i do now? :P |
| 14:44.40 | Meiz_n810 | configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in "." "./.." "./../.." |
| 14:44.58 | Stskeeps | Meiz_n810: sh autogen.sh .. and sometimes packages are a bit fun :) |
| 14:45.07 | Meiz_n810 | k |
| 14:45.17 | Stskeeps | dpkg-deb: building package `dash' in `../dash_0.5.4-12ubuntu2_armel.deb'. |
| 14:45.25 | Stskeeps | oh fucking finally. excuse my french |
| 14:46.04 | qwerty12_N800 | fucking disgusting language, i'm appalled to hear such things. |
| 14:47.48 | Meiz_n810 | hmm |
| 14:47.49 | Meiz_n810 | configure.ac:6: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_PROG_LIBTOOL |
| 14:48.55 | Stskeeps | apt-get install libtool? :P |
| 14:49.10 | Meiz_n810 | thanks :P |
| 15:00.54 | Meiz_n810 | rrr...this is not easy |
| 15:00.56 | Meiz_n810 | test-proxies.c:78: error: format not a string literal and no format arguments |
| 15:01.55 | Stskeeps | yeah, probably -Werror |
| 15:02.02 | Stskeeps | we use a new gcc and it is rather complainish |
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| 15:13.00 | jake_maheu | hullo guise |
| 15:13.17 | qwerty12_N800 | ello |
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| 15:33.38 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: you gonna be at your desktop machine sometime during today? |
| 15:33.59 | qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, in 30 mins for about 2 hours |
| 15:34.02 | Stskeeps | alright |
| 15:34.08 | Stskeeps | i have something for you to try then :P |
| 15:34.25 | qwerty12_N800 | goes all giddy :P |
| 15:36.44 | jakemaheu | hey guys |
| 15:37.08 | jakemaheu | if you clone your os to sd, can you still boot normally if you don't have the card in? |
| 15:37.56 | qwerty12_N800 | yes, it just boots from flash |
| 15:38.40 | jakemaheu | sweet, maybe i'll rty it now ;D |
| 15:38.44 | jakemaheu | *maybe |
| 15:38.59 | jakemaheu | er, **** i mean *try |
| 15:39.27 | jakemaheu | lol i just got 55 mb of space back on my flash |
| 15:39.34 | jakemaheu | xulrunner and vlc |
| 15:39.47 | jakemaheu | vlc doesn't even work that well |
| 15:39.58 | jakemaheu | and i got rid of fennec, so xulrunner is useless |
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| 15:40.11 | Stskeeps | lo b-man |
| 15:40.13 | jakemaheu | hey b-man |
| 15:40.19 | qwerty12_N800 | hi b-man |
| 15:40.22 | b-man | hello! |
| 15:40.26 | b-man | hi |
| 15:40.49 | b-man | it's going to be 54 F here today! |
| 15:41.12 | Stskeeps | cold? :P |
| 15:41.24 | Stskeeps | uses sane units |
| 15:41.35 | b-man | kinda, but it beets 23 |
| 15:42.00 | b-man | but the low will be 19 :P |
| 15:44.44 | yerga | mmm, I don't remember if mce is going out for Fremantle? someone remember it? |
| 15:45.56 | RST38h | so they said, afaik |
| 15:46.04 | GAN800 | yerga, OHM, I guess |
| 15:46.28 | Stskeeps | yerga: yes, dsme and mce going out, which is understandable |
| 15:46.36 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer_Blueprint#SB1_SDK_Guide when you're ready |
| 15:46.57 | yerga | ah, thanks. I was seeing some interesting things in the mce header files of the Fremantle SDK... |
| 15:47.23 | qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, nice.. |
| 15:47.40 | Stskeeps | yerga: there's probably a bit of backwards compatibility. what are you seeing? |
| 15:48.15 | yerga | for example: #define MCE_CALL_STATE_CELLULAR "cellular" |
| 15:48.19 | Stskeeps | eh. |
| 15:48.26 | Stskeeps | yes, that is indeed interesting |
| 15:48.48 | yerga | and... #define MCE_ORIENTATION_PORTRAIT "portrait" |
| 15:49.05 | yerga | also there's for landscape orientation |
| 15:49.23 | Stskeeps | yeah, finally :P |
| 15:49.29 | Stskeeps | #define MCE_ORIENTATION_FACE_DOWN"face_down" |
| 15:49.31 | Stskeeps | kinda odd though.. |
| 15:49.32 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 15:49.40 | Stskeeps | or on stand or off stand |
| 15:50.20 | Stskeeps | oh, i just found definate proof of accelerometer |
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| 15:50.33 | RST38h | no longer remembers what 59oF is. Is it "fairly cold", "warm" or "freezing y |
| 15:50.37 | RST38h | our ass off"? |
| 15:50.48 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: " * @param code @c dbus_string_t with the old encrypted password from @c crypt(3)" |
| 15:50.53 | Stskeeps | seems like they noticed your CAL hack ;) |
| 15:51.00 | b-man | i've been working on improving the mer imager, it now uses a launcher that automaticly reads your settings from a file, formats your mmc if you want it to, and starts the imager with the set of instructions you would put in the config file. |
| 15:51.17 | RST38h | yerga: May it be that they have decided to keep old #defines and add new ones with the same prefix? |
| 15:51.19 | Stskeeps | b-man: alright - patches welcome |
| 15:51.35 | Stskeeps | "#define MCE_ENABLE_VIBRATOR"req_vibrator_enable"" |
| 15:51.36 | Stskeeps | <3 |
| 15:51.50 | qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, my cal hack? i never managed to do anything :( |
| 15:52.07 | Stskeeps | aw :P |
| 15:52.17 | Stskeeps | the one about lock code |
| 15:52.22 | RST38h | Sts: Does it mean that the next tablet will come in a different form factor? =) |
| 15:52.29 | qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, ah :D |
| 15:52.41 | Stskeeps | RST38h: i'm not sure what the hell "facing down" means |
| 15:53.05 | Stskeeps | ooh. vibrator patterns. heh heh |
| 15:53.19 | b-man | @Stskeeps; i'll send you the updated launcher sometime today. |
| 15:54.04 | Stskeeps | b-man: k |
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| 15:59.56 | b-man | I think i will start to make a nother version that uses zenity, so it is similar to use. I might also throw in swap support. |
| 16:01.06 | b-man | edit: simpler |
| 16:01.26 | Stskeeps | yeah, - don't work too hard on it though, the imager is just supposed to be one that well, builds images, and we would probably redistribute tar.gz's and jffs2 instead |
| 16:01.53 | b-man | :p |
| 16:02.14 | b-man | good point. |
| 16:02.45 | Stskeeps | noone wants to wait 3 hours for a OS install :P |
| 16:03.41 | qwerty12 | or have watchdog reboot their tablet |
| 16:03.42 | b-man | i would, :p but that's just me. |
| 16:04.15 | b-man | yah |
| 16:04.39 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, it may be worth mentioning that you need to have 'deb http://scratchbox.org/debian stable main' in sources.list before being able to do a 'apt-get install scratchbox-toolchain-cs2007q3-glibc2.5-arm6' |
| 16:04.48 | Stskeeps | ah, i thought maemo-sdk added that |
| 16:04.50 | Stskeeps | it was there for me |
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| 16:06.48 | Stskeeps | added |
| 16:08.33 | GAN800 | pico projector |
| 16:08.43 | GAN800 | thought this was google. <_< |
| 16:08.47 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 16:12.12 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, MER_ARMEL target setup. |
| 16:12.40 | Stskeeps | k |
| 16:12.50 | Stskeeps | might want to apt-get update first |
| 16:13.04 | Stskeeps | there's minor problems with it still sadly |
| 16:13.18 | qwerty12 | Hey, it's sb1, what do I care ;P |
| 16:13.20 | Stskeeps | but compared to sb2, this actually does succeed occasionally |
| 16:14.05 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, yes... "dpkg: regarding .../perl-base_5.10.0-17ubuntu3_armel.deb containing perl-base: package uses Breaks; not supported in this dpkg" |
| 16:14.11 | jakemaheu | i'm installing easy debian turbo-charged edition |
| 16:14.12 | Stskeeps | eh |
| 16:14.32 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: well that might be because of the devkit not being ubuntu |
| 16:14.53 | Stskeeps | i hope whoever continues with sdk will try to get a ubuntu devkit in instead of something :P |
| 16:15.04 | qwerty12 | meh, just did a dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/perl-base_5.10.0-17ubuntu3_armel.deb |
| 16:15.13 | Stskeeps | hehe |
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| 16:17.06 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot "Global symbol "$me" requires explicit package name at /scratchbox/devkits/debian-lenny/bin/dpkg-checkbuilddeps line 82. |
| 16:17.06 | qwerty12 | Global symbol "$me" requires explicit package name at /scratchbox/devkits/debian-lenny/bin/dpkg-checkbuilddeps line 172.Global symbol "$me" requires explicit package name at /scratchbox/devkits/debian-lenny/bin/dpkg-checkbuilddeps line 185." (and the same for lines 82,172) |
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| 16:17.48 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: -d |
| 16:18.02 | qwerty12 | Damn, I didn't want to do that :( |
| 16:18.05 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 16:18.19 | Stskeeps | well, plenty of work to be done in this sdk.. at least we know it works :P |
| 16:18.33 | Stskeeps | .. sortof |
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| 16:19.44 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, even better, use dpkg-checkbuilddeps from debian-etch |
| 16:19.52 | Stskeeps | true |
| 16:20.04 | Stskeeps | so making people choose debian-etch instead? |
| 16:20.25 | qwerty12 | Probably would work better, diablo sdk uses debian etch by default |
| 16:20.29 | Stskeeps | *nod* |
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| 16:20.45 | qwerty12 | I just went into /scratchbox folder as root and copied it from debian-etch into lenny's bin |
| 16:21.52 | qwerty12 | Let me remove conic code from xchat, kinda pointless as we don't even have icd in mer |
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| 16:22.54 | Stskeeps | (yet) :P |
| 16:23.07 | qwerty12 | hehe |
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| 16:29.05 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: think there's additional problems - ubuntu is on glibc2.9, this is for glibc2.5? |
| 16:29.13 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, trying again... configure failed on a glibc check |
| 16:29.14 | qwerty12 | yep |
| 16:30.45 | Stskeeps | mm, 2008q3 seems to have glib2.8 at least |
| 16:30.49 | Stskeeps | +c |
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| 16:31.22 | qwerty12 | hmm, I got a 2008 toolchain installed when I was messing around with gcc 4 and maemo |
| 16:32.00 | Stskeeps | well, mer should be more welcoming to 2008 at least :P |
| 16:32.19 | Stskeeps | (gcc4) |
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| 16:33.01 | qwerty12 | Let me save your rootstrap to my harddisk, it's getting tiring just repeatedly downloading it :P |
| 16:33.39 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 16:33.59 | b-man | now bootstraping mer - hope it works out! |
| 16:34.10 | Stskeeps | good luck |
| 16:34.34 | Stskeeps | rescue menu (hold down home while booting) is your best friend. select console mode as soon as you can |
| 16:34.35 | b-man | i think i will need it |
| 16:34.37 | Stskeeps | :P |
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| 16:34.52 | jake_maheu | my comp crashed |
| 16:35.13 | Meiz_n810 | mm.. i should try to make a theme for hildon :P |
| 16:35.59 | jake_maheu | hey guys, i've got a question |
| 16:35.59 | b-man | you shuld |
| 16:36.44 | jake_maheu | you know easy debian turbo-charged edition? |
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| 16:37.13 | jake_maheu | well, you ha ve to get the img file to untar so you can use the apps |
| 16:37.39 | jake_maheu | it's like 317mb, and it's downloading at 10kb/s |
| 16:37.52 | jake_maheu | does anyone know where i can get another copy |
| 16:39.36 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, cs2008 toolchain... http://pastebin.com/d4504a3a2 |
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| 16:40.11 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: yeah, ran into that one too. export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/share/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig |
| 16:40.18 | qwerty12 | ah, cool |
| 16:40.31 | Stskeeps | nfi why it breaks |
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| 16:41.14 | qwerty12 | bollocks, let me autogen xchat again >.< |
| 16:43.32 | jake_maheu | can someone try accessing maemobox.org? |
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| 16:44.39 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, more glibc fun... "/lib/libnsl.so.1: undefined reference to `__libc_clntudp_bufcreate@GLIBC_PRIVATE'" |
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| 16:46.20 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: which toolchain is it? |
| 16:46.33 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, arm-linux-cs2008q3-41 |
| 16:46.53 | qwerty12 | (works for diablo) |
| 16:47.16 | Stskeeps | can you try http://scratchbox.org/~jhakala/unofficial/scratchbox-toolchain-arm-linux-cs2008q3-72_1.0.8-1_i386.deb ? |
| 16:47.40 | qwerty12 | downloading... |
| 16:49.41 | lcuk | santa had a 90minute waiting time - hyperactive kids in confined spaces are not good. |
| 16:50.01 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 16:50.19 | lcuk | qwerty12, have your parents taken you to see santa this year yet? |
| 16:50.34 | qwerty12 | lcuk, hehe, no :P |
| 16:51.26 | qwerty12 | The last time I saw a santa was in 2000 at the millennium dome |
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| 16:55.24 | lcuk | qwerty12, thats only because you have been barred from seeing santa anywhere worldwide after you kicked the last one in the nuts. |
| 16:55.36 | lcuk | they have your photo on the wall at every grotto around the country |
| 16:55.43 | Stskeeps | for not giving him a n810 for xmas? ;) |
| 16:55.44 | qwerty12 | lol :D |
| 16:56.06 | lcuk | i played with an iphone today |
| 16:56.33 | t_s_o | burn, heretic... |
| 16:56.33 | Meiz_n810 | how was it? |
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| 16:56.45 | qwerty12 | lcuk, I knew santa was bad if he has an iphone :( |
| 16:57.00 | Meiz_n810 | :P |
| 16:57.05 | lcuk | meiz, not as responsive or slick as i thought |
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| 16:57.26 | Meiz_n810 | as showed in tv commercials? :P |
| 16:57.28 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, and again: /lib/libnsl.so.1: undefined reference to `__libc_clntudp_bufcreate@GLIBC_PRIVATE'. I'm gonna install the toolchain's glibc |
| 16:57.33 | qwerty12 | lol |
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| 16:58.28 | lcuk | yeah, i suppose its training and stuff, but it didnt respond to my finger properly |
| 16:58.33 | lcuk | hiya simon |
| 16:58.36 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: lovely.. |
| 16:58.43 | qwerty12 | hello lardman |
| 16:58.47 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: yeah, i guess that's a possibility |
| 16:58.51 | lardman | hi qwerty12 |
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| 16:58.58 | lardman | hi lcuk |
| 16:59.27 | lcuk | ialso looked at a load of phones, and the overwhelming feeling i had was - they are tiny |
| 16:59.35 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: thanks for the effort though so far |
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| 16:59.52 | Stskeeps | lcuk: i would be afraid of breaking something like the iphone :P |
| 16:59.59 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, np, let me keep trying |
| 17:00.00 | Stskeeps | but if it is sturdy enough.. |
| 17:00.07 | lcuk | nahhh they appear to be built well |
| 17:00.21 | lcuk | jake played as well and we didnt get kicked out so its not that bad |
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| 17:00.50 | lcuk | (though i thought we would when he kept pulling the phone leashes out as far as they would go and sent the display models hurling back across the shop |
| 17:00.55 | qwerty12 | hehe, I was walking back from school and I passed this person with a flip phone playing some dodgy ringtone. He dropped the phone and the ringtone stopped to be replaced with the man's swearing. I grinned all the way back. |
| 17:01.34 | lcuk | heh |
| 17:01.54 | lcuk | lardman, did you have a good weekend |
| 17:02.02 | lardman | lcuk: yes thanks, you? |
| 17:02.31 | lcuk | yeah so far, apart from this morning being woken up with what i thought was machinegun fire |
| 17:03.00 | Stskeeps | drilling neighbours? |
| 17:03.01 | lcuk | (jake was running round the house with a string of beads and got em stuck under the door - he pulled and yanked and they clattered lots and scared the crap out of me) |
| 17:03.04 | Stskeeps | ah |
| 17:03.12 | qwerty12 | I thought you could only get rubber bands in the north as weapons |
| 17:03.32 | lcuk | heh no, tracy almost used fluffy pink slippers as a weapon against luke last night :D |
| 17:03.32 | lardman | seems lcuk is often woken by the sound of real machine gun fire? |
| 17:03.38 | lcuk | heh |
| 17:03.38 | qwerty12 | hehe |
| 17:03.49 | lardman | I suppose he lives in Manchester, c'est la vie hey? ;) |
| 17:04.07 | lcuk | she went and picked him up from a party and threatened to walk in the pub in her slippers to get him |
| 17:04.10 | qwerty12 | It's a trait not just common to Manchester but the entire North :P |
| 17:04.13 | lcuk | oi southern boy |
| 17:04.25 | lcuk | oi x 2 fak southern boy |
| 17:04.27 | lcuk | e |
| 17:04.35 | qwerty12 | hehe :P |
| 17:05.21 | lcuk | i need to get some time to myself soon, ive got some coding that needs doing |
| 17:05.29 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, success! |
| 17:05.36 | qwerty12 | Meiz_n810, willing to test xchat? :D |
| 17:05.57 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: woo! |
| 17:06.26 | Meiz_n810 | qwerty12: when i get home |
| 17:06.58 | qwerty12 | k |
| 17:06.58 | Meiz_n810 | i'm on GRPS now |
| 17:07.05 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, I removed locale support from xchat , had a bit of trouble there :/ |
| 17:07.09 | qwerty12 | Meiz_n810, heh :/ |
| 17:07.15 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: yeah suspect it mgiht be odd |
| 17:07.40 | lardman | ponders wireless speakers |
| 17:07.51 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: at least it's good we have something that makes it build.. :P |
| 17:08.17 | qwerty12 | hehe, yes. Now it's time to delete all those surplus toolchains, I'm down to 3.2gb free on my linux partition :P |
| 17:08.38 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 17:08.57 | Stskeeps | so the recipe was the toolchain i pointed to, copying in libc from toolchain? |
| 17:09.00 | lardman | qwerty12: rm -rf ~/.porn/ |
| 17:09.09 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, yep |
| 17:09.11 | Stskeeps | k |
| 17:09.19 | qwerty12 | lardman, tried that, only got me back 1gb :( |
| 17:09.21 | Stskeeps | sdk \o/ |
| 17:09.27 | lardman | qwerty12: ah |
| 17:09.34 | lardman | qwerty12: rm -rf ~/.porn-videos/ |
| 17:09.43 | lardman | :D |
| 17:09.50 | qwerty12 | ah, that's better! 5gb back :D :P |
| 17:10.33 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, depends line says: libc6 (>= 2.8) - good? |
| 17:11.08 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: think it's a libc6 2.9 |
| 17:11.12 | Stskeeps | so yeah |
| 17:11.18 | Stskeeps | we'll see |
| 17:11.19 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 17:11.23 | qwerty12 | cool :P |
| 17:11.42 | qwerty12 | now it's time to fix the mypaint package i put in extras-devel :P |
| 17:12.08 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 17:12.35 | lardman | anyone have digital wireless headphones here? And not a2dp please |
| 17:13.00 | qwerty12 | lardman, I used to have a pair of sony ones (used rf) |
| 17:13.23 | lardman | were they analogue encoding, like a radio, or was the data transfer digital? |
| 17:13.33 | lardman | I've tried the former and they are noisy and not too great |
| 17:13.51 | qwerty12 | I don't actually remember, sorry |
| 17:14.13 | qwerty12 | They were just connected to the tv so I can't really judge the sound |
| 17:14.19 | lardman | np |
| 17:14.31 | lardman | I think I need to go with a digital encoding to avoid getting the hiss |
| 17:14.47 | lardman | also looks for a new 5.1 amp with wireless speakers |
| 17:14.56 | qwerty12 | yeah, hissing ruins the lovely sound of Lethal Bizzle :P |
| 17:15.14 | lardman | lol |
| 17:15.30 | lardman | I think I've finally removed the last trace of that thing! |
| 17:15.51 | qwerty12 | I believe you, really... :P |
| 17:16.10 | lardman | yeah, perhaps that last copy I've kept to test the new sbc encoder.... |
| 17:16.14 | lcuk | lardman, don't let qwerty or woglinde near any of your stuff :P it will reappear |
| 17:16.42 | b-man | 50% done with mer installation, so far so good :) |
| 17:16.48 | qwerty12 | lcuk, I thought that reappearing was a good thing personally :P |
| 17:17.29 | lcuk | mailto: qwertysschool subject:missing interactive whiteboards... |
| 17:17.37 | Stskeeps | lol |
| 17:17.54 | qwerty12 | I'll say it's an invasion from the North, they need it more than us :P |
| 17:19.07 | jake_maheu | @qwerty12: thanks for the mypaint package, once it's up |
| 17:19.27 | b-man | interactive whiteboards? - we call them smartboards |
| 17:19.38 | qwerty12 | jake_maheu, it's actually in extras-devel, I just want to fix the icon size and duplicate dependencies :/ |
| 17:19.47 | jake_maheu | we use a projector and a bluetooth drawing tablet |
| 17:20.00 | b-man | same as us |
| 17:20.03 | jake_maheu | @qwerty12: OH |
| 17:20.14 | jake_maheu | er, caps lock isn't cruise control for cool |
| 17:20.26 | Mousey | YES IT IS! |
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| 17:20.36 | qwerty12 | i FoRgIvE yOu |
| 17:20.40 | Stskeeps | dear god |
| 17:20.49 | Mousey | ^_^ |
| 17:20.57 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps seems to be getting creeped out |
| 17:21.08 | b-man | hmmm.... |
| 17:21.13 | jake_maheu | @qwerty: i don't see it in devel |
| 17:21.18 | jake_maheu | in app mugger |
| 17:21.27 | qwerty12 | jake_maheu, using diablo? |
| 17:21.30 | jake_maheu | yeah |
| 17:21.56 | qwerty12 | should be there, it's showing up here: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/diablo/free/m/mypaint/ |
| 17:22.19 | jake_maheu | i'll try refreshing |
| 17:22.42 | b-man | enyone know whi there is a package called python-sexy? :p |
| 17:22.58 | qwerty12 | bindings for libsexy iirc :P |
| 17:23.11 | briand | it's to help the nerdy types with the wimmen. ;) |
| 17:23.22 | b-man | lol |
| 17:23.37 | qwerty12 | we can see briand installs it a lot :P |
| 17:23.49 | jake_maheu | found it |
| 17:23.56 | jake_maheu | you just need a refresh in app mugger |
| 17:24.09 | jake_maheu | installing now |
| 17:24.22 | briand | just once, qwerty12... and now i have to find a good scheduling app for the n800... too many women demanding my personal time |
| 17:24.55 | qwerty12 | hehe |
| 17:25.05 | b-man | wouldn't that be a good thing?? |
| 17:25.59 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: hm, i didn't have success |
| 17:26.38 | Stskeeps | same error and all |
| 17:26.38 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, hmm, let me retrace my steps properly. give me a few mins |
| 17:26.45 | jake_maheu | done installing, testing now |
| 17:27.00 | disco_stu | what could happen if i boot from sd and have it locked to be read-only ? |
| 17:27.19 | Stskeeps | disco_stu: wouldn't boot that well |
| 17:27.26 | jake_maheu | sweet |
| 17:27.27 | b-man | bad things will happen! |
| 17:27.49 | disco_stu | i will try |
| 17:28.01 | b-man | oh god |
| 17:28.17 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, MER_ARMEL is using arm-linux-cs2008q3-72 toolchain, with cputransp & debian-etch toolkits and qemu-arm-cvs-m as transparency method, your rootstrap extracted and I chose to install C-library, /etc & Devkits |
| 17:28.27 | qwerty12 | nothing bad can happen, the card is RO :D |
| 17:28.41 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: mmk |
| 17:28.45 | Stskeeps | lemme retrace myself |
| 17:28.47 | Mousey | famouse last words! |
| 17:28.54 | disco_stu | yeah i see it that way |
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| 17:29.30 | jake_maheu | nice |
| 17:29.31 | disco_stu | i´ll try it now |
| 17:29.38 | jake_maheu | hey qwerty |
| 17:29.54 | jake_maheu | i think i found a bug |
| 17:29.56 | qwerty12 | yeah jake_maheu? :) |
| 17:29.58 | qwerty12 | ooh |
| 17:30.17 | b-man | welcome to my world |
| 17:30.28 | jake_maheu | in mypaint, clearing works once per startup |
| 17:30.47 | jake_maheu | like, start, draw, clear, draw, clear doesn't work |
| 17:31.36 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: do you rm the "new" libc? |
| 17:31.50 | Stskeeps | (2.9 one in rootstrap) |
| 17:31.54 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, nothing like that |
| 17:31.58 | Stskeeps | mmk |
| 17:32.20 | jake_maheu | what do you think? |
| 17:32.32 | qwerty12 | jake_maheu, you're right, thanks! |
| 17:32.57 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: i suspect installing lib* stuff that would call ldconfig would fuck up the symlinks maybe.. |
| 17:33.19 | jake_maheu | no prob, love the app anyways |
| 17:33.26 | jake_maheu | thanks for compiling it |
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| 17:33.54 | qwerty12 | The hildonizations were done by anders_gud, I just applied his patches on to the 0.5.1 release and put it in extras :) |
| 17:34.01 | disco_stu | nothing happens |
| 17:34.14 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, ouch :/ |
| 17:34.44 | jake_maheu | ah |
| 17:35.06 | lcuk | briand, the scheduling app needs a camera, it has to take a picture and upload it, and the hotter she is gains her more time |
| 17:35.09 | jake_maheu | any idea why clearing a second time doesn't work? |
| 17:35.10 | disco_stu | i found that my card was already locked |
| 17:35.42 | qwerty12 | jake_maheu, no idea, i'll let you know if I can figure it out.. |
| 17:35.52 | jake_maheu | thanks |
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| 17:38.31 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: yeah, that was what happened |
| 17:39.09 | Stskeeps | b-man: mail, cvm@cs.au.dk |
| 17:39.44 | b-man | thanks :p |
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| 17:40.53 | b-man | mer instalation complete, woho!! |
| 17:41.56 | jake_maheu | what does mer look like? |
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| 17:42.07 | Stskeeps | http://picasaweb.google.com/meizirkki/NokiaN810Mer |
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| 17:42.23 | MaceN800 | hi |
| 17:42.31 | jake_maheu | hello |
| 17:43.01 | MaceN800 | so what's going on with mer? |
| 17:43.03 | MaceN800 | come out with the sdkyet? |
| 17:43.05 | MaceN800 | heh |
| 17:43.27 | b-man | what does it look like? i have no idia, i haven't booted it yet :p |
| 17:43.41 | MaceN800 | uhm |
| 17:43.45 | MaceN800 | haven't booted it yet? |
| 17:43.46 | MaceN800 | :) |
| 17:43.49 | b-man | it looks kinda like maemo |
| 17:44.06 | Stskeeps | yeah, for now |
| 17:44.17 | jake_maheu | i kinda like it |
| 17:44.19 | Stskeeps | the idea is the possibility to run other DE's too |
| 17:45.15 | b-man | could it be possible to install gnome on it now?? |
| 17:45.32 | Stskeeps | not sure, think you'd have to do mutually exclusive things atm |
| 17:45.36 | Stskeeps | we have a problem with libgnomevfs2 |
| 17:45.37 | Stskeeps | so |
| 17:45.51 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: success when removing 2.9 libs.. |
| 17:45.51 | GAN800 | Stskeeps has executed a channel takeover. |
| 17:45.51 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 17:46.01 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, nice |
| 17:46.08 | Mousey | c-c-c-c-c-c-c-combo breaker! |
| 17:46.13 | b-man | ha! |
| 17:46.18 | Stskeeps | GAN800: sorry, what was maemo again? :P |
| 17:46.22 | Stskeeps | (kidding :P) |
| 17:46.39 | GAN800 | Stskeeps, seriously, it's all freaking Mer spam. :p |
| 17:46.42 | jake_maheu | crap my blood sugar is 55 |
| 17:46.50 | Mousey | mer? |
| 17:46.54 | Stskeeps | GAN800: hehe |
| 17:47.09 | ShadowJK_ | jake_maheu, that's kind high |
| 17:47.25 | jake_maheu | er, wrong system for you |
| 17:47.47 | ShadowJK_ | Oh yeah, different scales? |
| 17:48.00 | qwerty12 | b-man, when it boots, could you try something out for me? :P |
| 17:48.02 | jake_maheu | 3.05 for you |
| 17:48.09 | b-man | shure! |
| 17:48.13 | ShadowJK_ | Oh, so that means you can have more caek? |
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| 17:48.21 | jake_maheu | actually, glucose tabs |
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| 17:48.34 | jake_maheu | nom raspberry |
| 17:49.05 | qwerty12 | b-man, thanks! Could you install http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/xchat_2.8.4-mer0q12_armel.deb and see if it runs :D (I've checked the deb, it runs no postinst scripts nor installs any libs so it should be safe to install) |
| 17:49.17 | b-man | ok! |
| 17:49.28 | jake_maheu | @shadowjk: are you a diabetic? |
| 17:49.31 | Stskeeps | b-man: small warning beforehand.. only usbnet works from stock install and you need to activate it in rescue menu :P |
| 17:49.36 | jake_maheu | type 1 here |
| 17:49.39 | Mousey | Should Be Safe(tm) |
| 17:50.10 | b-man | how do i do that, i don't have a hw keyboard |
| 17:50.38 | Meiz_n810 | colud network-manager work without modifications with that open-source wifi driver in Mer? |
| 17:50.59 | Stskeeps | b-man: hold down home key when you've just selected mer in the menu and pressed center to run it |
| 17:51.10 | Stskeeps | and rescue menu comes up, like in deblet :P |
| 17:52.09 | b-man | duh, whi did i not think of that :p |
| 17:52.46 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, maemo-mapper has an option to be built w/out libgpsmgr btw |
| 17:53.15 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: alright |
| 17:53.18 | ShadowJK_ | jake_maheu, no i'm not |
| 17:53.50 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, though with hacks, I did get it to compile with libgpsmgr in the i386 chroot, no idea how it would work on device... |
| 17:54.03 | disco_stu | someone knows why finger/stylus distinguish isnt working for me |
| 17:54.04 | b-man | ok, see you guys in an hour or so, i'm going to do some stuff in mer. |
| 17:54.06 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: similar |
| 17:54.10 | Stskeeps | have fun, b-man |
| 17:54.25 | b-man | see ya |
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| 17:56.30 | Meiz_n810 | i tried mobile-basic-flash... only black box.. |
| 17:56.41 | Stskeeps | alright |
| 17:57.18 | Meiz_n810 | grid-home segfaults and flash home is only black box |
| 17:57.47 | ShadowJK_ | disco_stu, heh, only worked the first day for me :) |
| 17:57.49 | Meiz_n810 | kourou does not work in Mer too, but who needs them :P |
| 17:58.28 | disco_stu | ShadowJK_, lol.. guess i'll have to let it go |
| 17:58.58 | ShadowJK_ | sometimes I accidentally manage to bring up the fingertyping screen, dunno how |
| 17:59.01 | disco_stu | maybe is something with rotation kernel patch, dont know |
| 17:59.39 | disco_stu | ShadowJK_, oh no! it is working |
| 17:59.47 | t_s_o | hmm, seems battery-status is a python script with a internal loop. may explain why it seems to burn battery when used to monitor long term battery use... |
| 17:59.56 | Stskeeps | heh |
| 18:00.03 | ShadowJK_ | what does the loop do? |
| 18:00.13 | disco_stu | you have to punch the text-box |
| 18:00.44 | t_s_o | reads a dbus entry every x min |
| 18:01.01 | Stskeeps | i thought it got broadcast once in a while |
| 18:01.18 | qwerty12 | iirc, battery requests for it |
| 18:01.22 | qwerty12 | *battery applet |
| 18:01.47 | disco_stu | you need to tap stronger and faster with your finger |
| 18:02.23 | ShadowJK_ | the figure reported by lshal doesn't update on its own, seems to need prodding by battery-status or the battery applet needing to refresh itself |
| 18:02.30 | t_s_o | the dbus "address" is /com/nokia/bme/request |
| 18:03.15 | MaceN800 | sts |
| 18:03.15 | lardman | joins in the diabetics convention, being type 1 himself |
| 18:03.22 | MaceN800 | so it's ready to install :) |
| 18:03.26 | t_s_o | ShadowJK_: now that you mention it, i kinda recall that being the reason for battery-status using dbus in the first place... |
| 18:03.29 | MaceN800 | i'll install it when i get home |
| 18:03.44 | MaceN800 | damn.. su8w battery is going to die |
| 18:03.48 | MaceN800 | batteries |
| 18:03.48 | Stskeeps | MaceN800: which? sdk? only if you're vaguely insane and dont mind rm'ing stuff |
| 18:03.48 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 18:03.52 | MaceN800 | i need an n800 |
| 18:03.55 | MaceN800 | haha |
| 18:04.09 | MaceN800 | well.. i meant mer |
| 18:04.13 | disco_stu | is afraid of diabetes because he drinks lots of pepsi |
| 18:04.17 | MaceN800 | i haven't really looked at it yet.. been pretty busy |
| 18:04.25 | t_s_o | disco_stu: try the max variant then |
| 18:04.27 | MaceN800 | be more scared of liquor |
| 18:04.28 | Stskeeps | MaceN800: mm, just a current state, but people are playing with it then |
| 18:04.42 | MaceN800 | yeah? i'll try it out when i get the chance |
| 18:04.47 | MaceN800 | probably tuesday when i'm off work |
| 18:04.54 | t_s_o | still, to much artificial sweetener seems to have its own issues... |
| 18:04.54 | MaceN800 | you use the box i set up yet? |
| 18:04.57 | disco_stu | hates pepsi max |
| 18:05.21 | Stskeeps | MaceN800: not yet, i'll get there eventually :P |
| 18:05.25 | jaska | black soap water |
| 18:05.29 | Stskeeps | had such a busy month |
| 18:05.31 | MaceN800 | ok.. i'm going to take a nap |
| 18:05.35 | MaceN800 | :) |
| 18:05.50 | MaceN800 | i need some aaa batteries |
| 18:05.59 | ShadowJK_ | pepsi max is kinda vile. The old sugarfree cocacola is kinda yuck. The new sugarfre cocacola is "interesting", but tastes bitter after a few glasses. I just buy Lidl's cola.. |
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| 18:06.26 | MaceN800 | all non sugar pop sucks |
| 18:06.39 | MaceN800 | there is no replacement for sugar :) |
| 18:06.55 | lardman | hmm, who drinks fixxy drinks anyway other than beer? |
| 18:06.57 | MaceN800 | diabetes is a gene cleaner |
| 18:07.02 | lardman | s/fixxy/fizzy |
| 18:07.06 | ShadowJK_ | I might just as well drink water :P |
| 18:07.26 | jaska | water tastes better than light soft drinks anyway :) |
| 18:07.31 | MaceN800 | i go through cases of pop like it's cool |
| 18:07.40 | MaceN800 | water is tasteless |
| 18:07.43 | MaceN800 | :) |
| 18:07.53 | jaska | which is better than the negative taste of light colas etc :) |
| 18:08.00 | ShadowJK_ | tasteless but rough |
| 18:08.04 | MaceN800 | diet pop is a joke |
| 18:08.11 | lardman | I actually don;t like the taste of the full-fat colas |
| 18:08.15 | MaceN800 | i've seen people chasae an entire pizza with a diet coke |
| 18:08.18 | ShadowJK_ | I rather drink milk than water :-) |
| 18:08.23 | MaceN800 | like it's going to make a difference |
| 18:08.26 | lardman | MaceN800: yep, me |
| 18:08.32 | MaceN800 | fat bastard |
| 18:08.37 | lardman | and then a few beers |
| 18:08.42 | lardman | and another pizza to follow |
| 18:08.44 | lardman | :p |
| 18:08.49 | MaceN800 | fat alcoholic bastard |
| 18:08.53 | lardman | lol |
| 18:08.59 | lardman | well I do weigh 97 kg |
| 18:09.07 | t_s_o | starts to wonder how "off channel" he is to the rest of the world... |
| 18:09.07 | MaceN800 | goddamn |
| 18:09.13 | MaceN800 | that's like 300lbs |
| 18:09.23 | MaceN800 | well.. 240something |
| 18:09.25 | lardman | 200lbs I think isn't it? |
| 18:09.26 | jaska | erm.. thats 213 |
| 18:09.30 | Stskeeps | eh, 97kg isn't that bad :P |
| 18:09.36 | MaceN800 | yes it is |
| 18:09.42 | MaceN800 | how tall? |
| 18:09.43 | jaska | my skeleton probably weighs that :) |
| 18:09.54 | disco_stu | i´m 70kg.. skinny |
| 18:10.05 | MaceN800 | haha |
| 18:10.07 | Stskeeps | has no idea what he weighs these days. |
| 18:10.13 | lardman | doesn't have much of a beer gut yet, only 34" |
| 18:10.15 | Stskeeps | dropped a lot of weight while gf is abroad |
| 18:10.16 | jake_maheu | i'm 126lbs, and like 5'10" |
| 18:10.24 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, +1 but I'm lovingly called pencil by some :P |
| 18:10.29 | jake_maheu | and, btw, minors drink fizzy drinks other than beer |
| 18:10.35 | MaceN800 | im 185 6-3 |
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| 18:10.39 | MaceN800 | :) |
| 18:10.41 | jaska | depends on the minor |
| 18:10.48 | lardman | I'm 6'2" |
| 18:10.53 | jake_maheu | wow |
| 18:10.59 | jake_maheu | i'm only 14 tho |
| 18:11.03 | MaceN800 | oh... then you are not that bad |
| 18:11.07 | MaceN800 | :) |
| 18:11.08 | jake_maheu | i'm taller than my mom and as tall as my dad |
| 18:11.14 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: used to be thin as hell, then adulthood came.. |
| 18:11.14 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 18:11.19 | MaceN800 | everybody is taller than their mother |
| 18:11.20 | qwerty12 | :D |
| 18:11.22 | Stskeeps | or i discovered beer. one of those. |
| 18:11.22 | disco_stu | what about ages? |
| 18:11.31 | lardman | 30 |
| 18:11.33 | *** part/#maemo thopiekar (n=thopieka@p57A14232.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:11.33 | jake_maheu | i've got a second cousin who is like 6'5"-- at least with a beard |
| 18:11.34 | jaska | 6'5.5" 350lbs or so.. i know.. im a fat bastard :) |
| 18:11.54 | jake_maheu | we share a cousin, and he's like 5' |
| 18:11.57 | MaceN800 | well.. i shold go |
| 18:11.57 | jake_maheu | and he's 13 |
| 18:11.59 | MaceN800 | takecare everybody |
| 18:12.21 | qwerty12 | bye |
| 18:12.24 | disco_stu | see ya |
| 18:12.52 | Stskeeps | http://www.daimi.au.dk/~cvm/fb.JPG <- best ever pic of me, .. from a music festival. heh |
| 18:13.03 | lardman | hmm, he seemed to be very anti-food didn't he ;) |
| 18:13.26 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, why smoke normal cigarettes? :P :D |
| 18:13.42 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: meh, not much of a weed person |
| 18:13.51 | Stskeeps | just gets me depressed instead |
| 18:14.03 | qwerty12 | hehe, I have a friend in CPH and all he can do is get high :P |
| 18:14.11 | Stskeeps | yeah, but that's cpfh |
| 18:14.13 | Stskeeps | cph |
| 18:14.50 | Stskeeps | <- in the province |
| 18:14.57 | qwerty12 | :) |
| 18:15.21 | lardman | I had a friend who only did that, and he's not a friend any more - became rather weird and paranoid |
| 18:15.31 | mavhc | goddamn hippies |
| 18:15.41 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 18:16.07 | lardman | eschews all drugs, and just sticks to alcohol |
| 18:16.16 | lardman | oh and caffeine |
| 18:16.21 | t_s_o | technically, alcohol is a drug... |
| 18:16.24 | Stskeeps | mm, caffeine |
| 18:16.27 | lardman | rubbish! ;) |
| 18:16.38 | t_s_o | the seperation is more cultural then anything else... |
| 18:17.31 | mavhc | weed is only as dangerous as alcohol or cigarettes |
| 18:17.42 | mavhc | and that's why I say we should ban alcohol and cigarettes |
| 18:17.42 | lcuk | i resent changes to slash more and more - i wrote a comment today before i went out and totally forgot i need to click twice nowadays \@/ |
| 18:17.43 | disco_stu | i'll head to my books, see you later |
| 18:18.05 | lcuk | lardman, those drugs are worse than others |
| 18:18.05 | lardman | mavhc: though studies have shown that it produces psychosis afaik |
| 18:18.12 | lardman | lcuk: never! |
| 18:18.41 | lardman | lcuk: except your vice perhaps ;) |
| 18:18.43 | lcuk | imagine the outrage that would occur worldwide if they banned coffee |
| 18:18.46 | lardman | smoking that is |
| 18:19.03 | mavhc | alcohol? yes, it does |
| 18:19.06 | qwerty12 | can't see the appeal in cigarettes |
| 18:19.10 | lardman | well no work would be done for a few days until the symptoms wore off :) |
| 18:19.21 | lcuk | infact, i think thats why they are now saying "look, coffee grounds produce biooil - "we are saving the planet" |
| 18:19.23 | lardman | mavhc: no, cannabis |
| 18:19.29 | mavhc | that too |
| 18:19.47 | mavhc | to response to "do you smoke?" is "no, I'm not retarded" |
| 18:19.52 | lcuk | qwerty12, some crops grow well embedded in volcanic ash :) |
| 18:20.02 | lardman | my understanding was that the effects of cannabis were permanent |
| 18:20.07 | qwerty12 | lcuk, hehe :) |
| 18:20.49 | lardman | lcuk: what kind of cigarettes do you smoke! |
| 18:20.56 | lcuk | lardman, doing any drug to excess leads to problem, its not the vice, its the quantity |
| 18:21.22 | lardman | lcuk: ah, but that's the thing about cannabis, it's supposed to damage immediately |
| 18:21.22 | lcuk | i roll my own using whatever baccy i can get imported |
| 18:21.37 | lardman | lcuk: from near volcanoes? |
| 18:21.44 | lcuk | but hasn't like 3/4 of the population admitted to it |
| 18:21.50 | qwerty12 | in the north, I hear the best you guys can get is leaves |
| 18:21.53 | lcuk | from wherever, i burn my fuel |
| 18:21.59 | lardman | which is why the GDP is falling probably ;) |
| 18:22.12 | lcuk | actually i think you are right... |
| 18:22.36 | lcuk | im smoking menthol cigs at the mo - since i ran out of baccy :'( |
| 18:22.43 | lcuk | they are so expensive in uk |
| 18:23.25 | lcuk | the £40 i spent a few months ago ( think it was summit the last time i bought my own) has just finished, im looking at spending that amount in just a couple of weeks |
| 18:23.43 | jake_maheu | you guys should check out electronic cigarettes |
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| 18:23.51 | qwerty12 | lol |
| 18:23.57 | jake_maheu | safesmokes.net is my dad's site |
| 18:23.58 | lcuk | dont tell me |
| 18:24.06 | lardman | hmm, I'm happy with my glass of wine thanks :) |
| 18:24.13 | lcuk | * rx-51: added support for inhaler |
| 18:24.51 | lardman | and feather-twizzler |
| 18:25.17 | lcuk | ok lardman, your wine is good, but if you downed it like orange juice everyday, or had it on your cornflakes would it still be as good? |
| 18:25.22 | Stskeeps | mm. wine |
| 18:25.22 | lcuk | (mind you, you do that already) |
| 18:25.25 | Stskeeps | i could really need some wine. |
| 18:25.37 | lcuk | http://www.winehq.org/ |
| 18:25.52 | lardman | lcuk: yes, I reckon so, not so good with corn flakes mind you |
| 18:26.09 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: solution 2 to sdk problems. find the glibc2.8 from ubuntu |
| 18:26.10 | lcuk | ahhhh, holly has got you eating special k then :P |
| 18:26.15 | lardman | lcuk: shredded wheat + wine works a treat ;) |
| 18:26.30 | lardman | lcuk: don't knock the special K, I quite like it! |
| 18:26.31 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, nice, will remember that |
| 18:26.35 | Stskeeps | it's at.. |
| 18:26.53 | qwerty12 | likes special Krack for breakfast |
| 18:26.55 | lcuk | i tried it once, but i kept gettin a wedgy from the red swimsuit i had to wear |
| 18:27.02 | lardman | lol |
| 18:27.15 | lardman | you have to eat 3 bowls full, but it tastes nice |
| 18:27.31 | lcuk | 3 at a time? i tohught it was meant for dieting |
| 18:27.33 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/armel/libc6/2.8+20081027-0ubuntu10 |
| 18:27.50 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, ta# |
| 18:27.57 | lardman | lcuk: oi you sound like MaceN800! |
| 18:28.26 | lcuk | why? does he wear swimsuits as well>? |
| 18:28.41 | lardman | no, he was implying I needed to diet I think |
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| 18:29.00 | lardman | I agreed, more pizza and beer ;) |
| 18:29.10 | lcuk | nahhhh, you don't need to diet, but just make sure you sit in the middle on airplanes |
| 18:29.18 | lardman | lol |
| 18:29.44 | lardman | on that note, I have to go do some washing up, bbl :) |
| 18:29.51 | lcuk | heh cya later |
| 18:30.09 | lcuk | ok im goin as wlel, got some planning to do |
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| 18:31.24 | Jake__ | i'm gonna do something insane |
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| 18:32.56 | Stskeeps | what? :P |
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| 18:36.43 | Stskeeps | wb b-man |
| 18:36.50 | b-man | hi |
| 18:37.13 | b-man | hmmm... |
| 18:37.55 | b-man | well, i tryed it out and it looks pritty good :) |
| 18:37.59 | b-man | but... |
| 18:38.25 | Stskeeps | it's not complete in any way and needs apt-getting of stuff to have anything of worth :P |
| 18:38.44 | Stskeeps | but what you just ran is fremantle software :P |
| 18:39.41 | b-man | no, i'm trying to think of what i ned to say.. |
| 18:40.28 | Jake__ | i'm going to make gimp on the tablet |
| 18:40.47 | b-man | how can i set my root and user password? |
| 18:40.57 | Meizirkki | passwd |
| 18:41.10 | Stskeeps | b-man: well passwd from maemo in the chroot probably.. user password we dont really have yet :P |
| 18:41.29 | Meizirkki | for user: passwd <user> |
| 18:41.43 | b-man | thanks |
| 18:41.47 | Meizirkki | i always run hildon as a user |
| 18:42.11 | Jake__ | am i insane? |
| 18:42.21 | b-man | ? |
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| 18:42.39 | b-man | what do you mean insane? |
| 18:43.04 | Stskeeps | Jake__: not really. gimp was in easy debian i think |
| 18:45.13 | Meizirkki | hmm, Fn key is not working... |
| 18:45.17 | Jake__ | but it was in a 1.3gb partition on an sd card |
| 18:45.21 | Meizirkki | i have xmodmap set up for it |
| 18:45.49 | Stskeeps | get fatalsaints xmodmap? |
| 18:46.05 | Meizirkki | i am using xmodmap from deblet |
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| 18:46.26 | Stskeeps | yeah, but that one is broken with Fn i think |
| 18:46.31 | Stskeeps | fatalsaints xmodmap file should work |
| 18:46.45 | Meizirkki | where cai i get it ? |
| 18:46.51 | Meizirkki | s/cai/can/ |
| 18:47.11 | Stskeeps | it's on ITT somewhere |
| 18:47.12 | Stskeeps | .P |
| 18:47.17 | Meizirkki | k |
| 18:50.39 | b-man | Installing a ton of stuff in mer from cdeb2» (my chroot software) :D |
| 18:50.42 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 18:51.02 | Stskeeps | we definately need something alike embedding xnest/xephyr or whatever .. |
| 18:51.12 | Stskeeps | so you can run native programs fullscreen that doesn't fit in hildon layout |
| 18:52.40 | b-man | i havent tryed that yet, i don't have anything installed yet. :P |
| 18:52.57 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 18:54.09 | b-man | does hildon-input-method work by any chance? |
| 18:56.31 | Stskeeps | not yet i think |
| 18:56.37 | Stskeeps | Meizirkki? |
| 18:58.09 | Meizirkki | what? |
| 18:58.12 | Meizirkki | h-i-m? |
| 18:58.16 | Stskeeps | what keyboard possibilities did we have atm? |
| 18:58.19 | Meizirkki | haven't tested yes |
| 18:58.45 | Meizirkki | hatchbox-keyboard with many languages at least |
| 18:58.49 | Stskeeps | k |
| 18:58.56 | Stskeeps | matchbox you mean |
| 18:59.03 | Meizirkki | yup |
| 18:59.08 | Stskeeps | b-man: your best friend right now is usbnet atleast |
| 18:59.40 | b-man | :p |
| 19:02.16 | b-man | installing matchbox-kb, synaptic, iceweasel, gnome-apt, xkbd, dosbox, gimp....... |
| 19:02.39 | Stskeeps | hehe |
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| 19:03.45 | b-man | i wonder if i can install Gnome, hmmmmmm...... |
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| 19:05.07 | Stskeeps | b-man: there's a problem with gnomevfs2 atm so |
| 19:05.32 | Stskeeps | you could probably but that'd remove hildon (atm) |
| 19:05.39 | Stskeeps | it is ubuntu deep down so :P |
| 19:09.00 | b-man | it's allwase good to try something new. :) Jhonx said that gnome on deblet could not be done..... and i sucseded... trial-and-error? :p |
| 19:09.06 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 19:09.19 | Stskeeps | never underestimate the efforts of people with too much time on their hands.. |
| 19:09.20 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 19:09.56 | Stskeeps | god, i love this lastfm ripper |
| 19:10.12 | Stskeeps | i can get some of my old mp3 collection back that i lost a cold night against asphalt.. |
| 19:10.21 | lcuk | god i hate this pan shaped branding on my hand |
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| 19:10.40 | Meizirkki | b-man: synaptic will crash your hildon |
| 19:10.57 | qwerty12_N801 | Stskeeps, you don't need last.fm for that... ;P |
| 19:11.17 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N801: the fact is i don't recall the songs until i see them |
| 19:11.21 | b-man | I'm just filled with overall enthusiasm - i'm allmost allwase up-beet and happy. :D |
| 19:11.50 | qwerty12_N801 | Stskeeps, hehe, i'm the same :) |
| 19:12.31 | qwerty12_N801 | b-man, i'm the opposite. i'm pessimistic and think everybody is pricks :p |
| 19:13.10 | b-man | even your frends? |
| 19:13.46 | qwerty12_N801 | for sure :P |
| 19:13.55 | b-man | lol |
| 19:15.28 | Stskeeps | ponders taking revenge on the neighbours drilling the walls on hangoverday |
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| 19:23.48 | Meizirkki | Fn still does not work :( |
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| 19:24.10 | Stskeeps | damnit :P |
| 19:24.12 | Meizirkki | (using fatalsaints xmodmap now) |
| 19:24.18 | Meizirkki | hmm... |
| 19:24.21 | Stskeeps | are you sur eit gets run? |
| 19:24.28 | Stskeeps | i mean, we dont use xsession right now.. |
| 19:24.28 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 19:24.29 | Meizirkki | yes |
| 19:24.43 | Meizirkki | other changes i made work, but not the fn-key |
| 19:24.55 | Stskeeps | k |
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| 19:28.38 | Stskeeps | yerga: around? |
| 19:28.42 | Meizirkki | I start hildon by running startx.. so, i use xsession ?? :P |
| 19:28.50 | Stskeeps | yeah, i guess so |
| 19:28.56 | yerga | Stskeeps, more or less ;) |
| 19:29.14 | Stskeeps | yerga: you were speaking of mce and such.. and i noticed face down and stuff like that |
| 19:29.36 | Stskeeps | http://www.engadget.com/2008/12/13/nokia-patent-app-suggests-n97s-form-factor-isnt-complicated-en/ <- any of these rotations that make more sense in the orientations? |
| 19:30.12 | Stskeeps | i mean, there's "face down" which is either a clamshell or something alike sick.. or that freaky thing |
| 19:30.26 | Meizirkki | cheack "office for n810" at itT :P |
| 19:30.44 | Meizirkki | s/cheack/check/ |
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| 19:32.08 | yerga | Stskeeps, could be... |
| 19:33.50 | Meizirkki | grr.. Mer wont boot because fsck failed |
| 19:34.03 | Meizirkki | i'll fsck in maemo |
| 19:34.14 | Stskeeps | Meizirkki: oh dear god |
| 19:34.19 | Stskeeps | don't tell me that bug is bac |
| 19:34.19 | Stskeeps | k |
| 19:34.34 | Meizirkki | it gives me root prompt |
| 19:34.40 | Stskeeps | .. |
| 19:34.42 | Meizirkki | with RO fs |
| 19:34.56 | Stskeeps | sighs and really wants a new kernel on that thing. |
| 19:35.38 | Meizirkki | i use 8pt fonts in Mer :P |
| 19:36.21 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 19:36.54 | Meizirkki | damn, reallu much errors in fs |
| 19:37.17 | Stskeeps | ext2 or ext3? |
| 19:37.23 | Meizirkki | ext3 |
| 19:37.28 | Meizirkki | not that moch |
| 19:37.32 | Meizirkki | much |
| 19:38.01 | Meizirkki | boots back to Mer |
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| 19:58.56 | Stskeeps | Mer bootstrapping meeting in #maemo-meeting in 2 minutes. |
| 20:03.10 | lcuk | http://www.johnniemoore.com/blog/archives/hold-a-meeting.jpg |
| 20:03.27 | lcuk | #maemo-meeting NOW |
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| 20:04.44 | lardman | lcuk: donuts? |
| 20:04.47 | lardman | mmm |
| 20:04.59 | lcuk | :D |
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| 20:08.44 | Stskeeps | client trouble, GA? |
| 20:09.25 | qwerty12_N800 | I'd take that as a yes :p |
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| 20:09.54 | GAN8001 | Fucking piece of shit client. . . . |
| 20:10.38 | lcuk | could telephone cleaners please report to #maemo-meeting |
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| 20:17.47 | Mousey | YAY! new freeciv packages!! |
| 20:17.49 | Mousey | glees |
| 20:24.05 | Mousey | seriously, n810 is the coolest computer i've ever owned |
| 20:24.13 | Mousey | if there's ever a gl-es version, i'll get it too |
| 20:24.16 | XTL | :) |
| 20:24.23 | Mousey | warzone2100, can you just see it??? |
| 20:24.26 | Mousey | how cool would that be? |
| 20:24.58 | Mousey | it ought to be bigger tho, n800 sized, with hardware keyboard and dual SD?? UNSTOPPABLE |
| 20:25.10 | Mousey | oh, and d-pad on the outside |
| 20:25.10 | Mousey | wtf |
| 20:25.16 | Mousey | ok, ok, enough outta me |
| 20:25.21 | Mousey | goes back to lurk moar |
| 20:25.22 | GAN8001 | We have Warzone 2100 |
| 20:25.33 | Mousey | for nseries?!? |
| 20:25.42 | GAN8001 | For a while |
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| 20:25.53 | GAN8001 | For "Maemo", more accurately. |
| 20:25.58 | Mousey | NO WAI |
| 20:26.04 | mouser- | Mousey: That does sound good. |
| 20:26.37 | mouser- | Maybe that's in the works for n900 (I haven't seen any specs, if they are released) |
| 20:27.01 | Mousey | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=225038 |
| 20:27.05 | Mousey | O HELL Yah |
| 20:28.31 | Mousey | hmm, |
| 20:28.35 | Mousey | struggles to find a reop |
| 20:28.37 | Mousey | repo, even |
| 20:29.22 | GAN8001 | mouser-, I recommend googling. |
| 20:29.34 | GAN8001 | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9093153240.html |
| 20:30.37 | Mousey | http://pupnik.de/WarZone2100_N810_M.jpg |
| 20:30.38 | Mousey | wow |
| 20:32.52 | GAN8001 | Mousey, you keep missing out on things that we've had for a while |
| 20:33.09 | Mousey | oh hush |
| 20:33.11 | GAN8001 | Next time you think of something you'd like to see, start by googling '<thing you want> maemo'. :P |
| 20:33.18 | Mousey | i usually do |
| 20:33.29 | Mousey | but i'm too easily excited |
| 20:33.30 | Mousey | =) |
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| 20:34.11 | mouser- | Are most new apps posted to maemo.org, or are they published on personal web sites? |
| 20:34.32 | GAN8001 | mouser-, depends on the dev |
| 20:35.00 | GAN8001 | usually maemo.org, but the early stuff tends to go to the forums or IRC first. |
| 20:35.00 | Mousey | poop! no pupnik repo |
| 20:37.32 | mouser- | GAN8001: The forums being ITT, correct? |
| 20:37.43 | GAN8001 | Yes |
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| 21:35.24 | MaceN800 | hi |
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| 22:10.03 | mouser- | MaceN800: Hi |
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| 22:13.16 | Oli-n800 | hi , is n800 broken camera flip rather software or hardware problem? |
| 22:14.43 | Oli-n800 | because in the morning it worked every time (i tried many times), but now there's no reaction for flipping |
| 22:16.31 | bearclaw_ | anyone knows where I could find the kernel configuration used for the IT2007 hacker edition? |
| 22:17.11 | mouser- | Oli-n800: I have an N810, so I don't have any experience. Have you tried the forums? |
| 22:17.55 | mouser- | Oli-n800: Have you done anything to change the software recently? |
| 22:17.55 | Stskeeps | bearclaw_: there were wiki pages on it at some point |
| 22:19.09 | Oli-n800 | some guy from tablettalk forums said that it's a hw error but i can't believe it |
| 22:19.26 | Stskeeps | Oli-n800: and i guess you did try restarting? |
| 22:20.03 | Oli-n800 | few hours ago it worked always, i ran out of battery and now it doesn't work |
| 22:20.43 | mouser- | I haven't heard of it happening before. It sounds like it might be a software problem, since you ran out of battery. |
| 22:20.44 | Oli-n800 | i bought tablet about month ago and flipping worked only sometimes |
| 22:21.21 | mouser- | The camera works, it just doesn't flip the image, right? |
| 22:21.30 | Oli-n800 | yes |
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| 22:21.56 | Stskeeps | wb b-man |
| 22:22.06 | Oli-n800 | i mean, it was flipping image few hours ago , before reboot |
| 22:22.16 | b-man | hi |
| 22:22.25 | Stskeeps | b-man: you up for making a simple script with zenity that makes a bootmenu item, and downloads and untars a tar.gz onto a partition? |
| 22:22.44 | Stskeeps | for tablet |
| 22:22.58 | b-man | shure |
| 22:23.53 | Stskeeps | make an easy option (partition my external MMC, 50mb fat, 256mb swap and rest linux, for instance) and advanced one where they choose their own mmc partition |
| 22:24.01 | Stskeeps | sfdisk can help you with the first one |
| 22:24.04 | mouser- | Oli-n800: There's probably something else you could do to troubleshoot it, but if you have a recent backup (or I guess you can make one, since everything else works and the backup wouldn't restore the OS, just the user), I'd try re-flashing to see if that fixes it. |
| 22:24.14 | b-man | Btw, i'll send you that launcher as soon as possible, i've ben a little districted. |
| 22:24.19 | Stskeeps | fair enough |
| 22:24.34 | Stskeeps | i'm working on SDK, but need some way for people to try Mer easily |
| 22:25.10 | mouser- | Oli-n800: But reboot if you haven't done a clean reboot since the battery died, to see if that fixes it. |
| 22:27.45 | Oli-n800 | mouser-, i've got tablet for a month so i haven't thought about flashing |
| 22:28.09 | Oli-n800 | i don't have any backups too |
| 22:28.16 | b-man | I had synaptic running successfully in hildon. i'll post some screenshots on ITT. |
| 22:28.29 | mouser- | Oli-n800: Try a clean reboot first. If that doesn't work, you can make a backup of what you have now. |
| 22:28.36 | Stskeeps | b-man: alright, sounds good |
| 22:28.57 | qwerty12_N800 | synaptic compiles for diablo too, just looks like shit |
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| 22:29.46 | lardman | Oli-n800: there's a sysfs entry to tell you which way up the camera is, check that to see if it's hw |
| 22:29.55 | lardman | hmm, too late |
| 22:30.08 | mouser- | Oli-n800: Also, if you've only had it for a month, are you still running Chinook or have you upgraded to Diablo? Fairly recently Nokia upgraded the OS for the N800/N810. |
| 22:31.00 | mouser- | lardman: I figured there was something else he could try, but he's just doing a reboot, hopefully not a reflash yet. |
| 22:31.37 | lcuk | liqbase question.if i wrote a visual designer would you expect it to edit and save documents like source files with an explicit save and overwrite the existing data, or would you want it to operate like wikipedia and maintain every revision |
| 22:32.08 | lardman | mouser-: is there not a bug about this? I've heard people say this quite a lot |
| 22:32.41 | b-man | does libqbase work under mer? |
| 22:32.57 | lcuk | not sure yet, wouldnt expect it too, it uses nokia touch dll |
| 22:33.10 | oli | mouser-: i've bought it with latest diablo so i didnt have to reflash |
| 22:33.14 | Stskeeps | b-man: not sure if xv is fast enough |
| 22:33.21 | lcuk | rly? |
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| 22:34.14 | qwerty12_N800 | i'm not sure liqbase would display properly due to fb being auto |
| 22:34.25 | lcuk | whats difference/ |
| 22:34.29 | qwerty12_N800 | in maemo, if fb is auto, liqbase doesn't display |
| 22:34.48 | lcuk | well thats just buncum! |
| 22:34.55 | Oli-n800 | lardman, you know something more? |
| 22:35.24 | Oli-n800 | i've rebooted and nothing has changed |
| 22:35.30 | lardman | just that there's a sysfs entry which tells you the hw state |
| 22:36.59 | lardman | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3303 ? |
| 22:39.10 | lardman | sounds like you should uninstall the camera app, then re-install it |
| 22:40.03 | Oli-n800 | i've had both camera and videocamera installed |
| 22:40.16 | Oli-n800 | now only videocamera left |
| 22:40.38 | b-man | @ Stskeeps; i might have a little truble automating the partitioning prosess, i know how to manualy partittion a mmc, but i'm not shure how to automate the prosess. made i shuld contact panguinbait about this. |
| 22:40.51 | Stskeeps | b-man: sec, lemme find an example |
| 22:41.26 | Stskeeps | b-man: https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/ke-recv/src/fremantle-format-internal-memory-card.sh |
| 22:41.36 | b-man | thanks!! |
| 22:41.36 | Stskeeps | the sfdisk stuf |
| 22:41.42 | Stskeeps | ,, means rest of space |
| 22:42.44 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: check at some point if your -devkit-debian is 1.0.10 |
| 22:43.16 | qwerty12_N800 | adds it to yellownotes |
| 22:45.00 | qwerty12_N800 | No one wanting to try the mer, hildonized xchat build? |
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| 22:46.46 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: i will eventually, getting a sdk script made atm :P |
| 22:46.54 | Oli-n800 | lardman, i would try comment #14 from your link |
| 22:48.49 | qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps, Hehe, i'd try it but I have no inclination to partition my card nor mess around with getting wifi or usbnet working :P |
| 22:52.59 | lardman | night all |
| 22:55.05 | b-man | correct me if i am wrong, but: ( ,50,C = 50mb fat ,128,S = 128mb swap ,,L = linux83 for the rest ) is this setup correct?, my knowledge is mostly based off of fsdisk. |
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| 23:00.36 | Oli-n800 | still nothing |
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| 23:03.40 | Stskeeps | bearclaw_: looks good |
| 23:03.41 | Stskeeps | er |
| 23:03.44 | Stskeeps | b-man |
| 23:03.44 | Stskeeps | :P |
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| 23:07.23 | b-man | sorry, my tablet's touchscreen crashed and i got disconnected. did i miss any information? |
| 23:07.50 | Stskeeps | b-man: yes, looks good |
| 23:08.06 | b-man | thanks! :) |
| 23:08.24 | Stskeeps | and try to use the same trick deblet uses to find out if its internal or external :P |
| 23:08.28 | Stskeeps | (its a shell script) |
| 23:13.58 | Stskeeps | hmm. |
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| 23:37.49 | mouser- | oli: Any luck yet? |
| 23:40.03 | bearclaw_ | found it, there is a n770_defconfig target in the kernel-source package |
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| 23:52.07 | gomiam | Hi, anyone around? |
| 23:52.35 | Stskeeps | somewha |
| 23:52.36 | Stskeeps | t |
| 23:53.30 | gomiam | :) |
| 23:55.55 | gomiam | Just a question so I can go on my way... Does the Maemo Xserver use the system keymap or its own one? I have found some keymaps in /usr/share but my Bt keyboard seems unable to type the "greater than" character in Spanish mode, which is my native one. I can type < with little hassle, though. |
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| 23:58.46 | gomiam | I have been told I should add a mapping through liberal use of xevent to get the key combo and some other program to set the specific mapping, but I would like to be able to change some file so it will be available whenevere I choose the spanish keymap. |
