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| 00:22.34 | lcuk | nite maemo |
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| 00:38.52 | dick-richardson | ok...I have a squid proxy running on my desktop. I want my n810 to connect to it (via ssh) everytime it connects to a network. dbus scripts is working well for that, but won't close the ssh tunnel upon exit |
| 00:39.28 | dick-richardson | I'm trying start-stop-daemon, but that isn't even starting the process...and it's not throwing any errors, either. |
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| 00:55.27 | moontiger | dick-richardson, is there some kind of timeout you can set so that the connection closes after the client disconnects? |
| 00:58.22 | moontiger | Gary, colchester lug? |
| 00:59.09 | dick-richardson | moontiger: good option, lemme check |
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| 01:48.07 | sin18 | while i can use this cmd (mount -t cifs //192.168.0.111/"ABC' s Time Capsule"/ /home/abc/stuff -o pass=abc) to connect to my time capsule (apple) from my linux box (fedora), mounting fails on maemo (nokia n800/ diablo). Any advice ? |
| 01:49.17 | sin18 | i just i cant ping the capsule 's ip and it does even up on nmap on diablo (while i can do both on fedora) |
| 01:49.58 | sin18 | i just noticed* i cant even ping the capsule 's ip and it does not* even up on nmap on diablo (while i can successfully do both on fedora) |
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| 03:58.20 | famicom | eh |
| 03:58.48 | famicom | is maemo an alternative desktop suites and window managers? |
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| 04:05.13 | GeneralAntilles | famicom, huh? |
| 04:05.29 | GeneralAntilles | It's a Linux distribution for Nokia internet tablets. |
| 04:05.41 | GeneralAntilles | ~maemo |
| 04:05.42 | infobot | maemo is probably a development platform to create applications for Nokia 770 Internet Tablet and other maemo compliant handheld devices in the future. http://www.maemo.org/ |
| 04:05.56 | GeneralAntilles | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maemo_(operating_system) |
| 04:08.29 | famicom | oh ok |
| 04:08.49 | famicom | doesnt the maemo desktop use GTK |
| 04:09.03 | famicom | plus various components from gnome |
| 04:09.22 | GeneralAntilles | Yes, it's GTK with Hildon. |
| 04:09.34 | GeneralAntilles | Yes, it uses lots of freedesktop.org components. |
| 04:10.31 | famicom | what window manager does maemo use |
| 04:10.36 | GeneralAntilles | Matchbox |
| 04:10.43 | GeneralAntilles | The wiki article has a section on its components. |
| 04:12.55 | famicom | ok |
| 04:12.56 | famicom | so |
| 04:13.10 | famicom | does maemo use matchbox-desktop or hildon-desktop |
| 04:13.48 | GeneralAntilles | Hildon is both the application framework/GTK extension and the desktop environment. |
| 04:14.01 | GeneralAntilles | Which is composed of hildon-desktop, hildon-application-manager, and hildon-control-panel. |
| 04:14.11 | GeneralAntilles | Yes, it uses hildon-desktop instead of matchbox-desktop. |
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| 04:14.59 | famicom | ah |
| 04:15.10 | famicom | what about the login manager |
| 04:15.18 | GeneralAntilles | It's a single user system. |
| 04:16.49 | famicom | what about sessions |
| 04:17.43 | famicom | and is there any place where i can find a tarball of the default themes for hildon-desktop |
| 04:18.14 | GeneralAntilles | The bundled themes are non-free. |
| 04:18.41 | GeneralAntilles | http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2008/02/theme-maker.html |
| 04:18.45 | GeneralAntilles | Has a template, though. |
| 04:19.18 | famicom | but if i had a device, i could extract it right |
| 04:19.24 | GeneralAntilles | Sure |
| 04:19.37 | GeneralAntilles | Hell, there are probably copies floating around. |
| 04:19.45 | GeneralAntilles | I know a few people have done 12pt/14pt mods. |
| 04:20.07 | famicom | eyh |
| 04:20.35 | famicom | right now i've got an eeepc, but due to the lack of screen real estate i've been dying to get something more suitable for low resolution screens |
| 04:20.58 | GeneralAntilles | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo4.1/free/h/hildon-theme-plankton/ |
| 04:21.05 | GeneralAntilles | ^ free theme used for the SDK. |
| 04:21.20 | GeneralAntilles | famicom, Ubuntu MID? |
| 04:21.31 | famicom | no |
| 04:21.36 | famicom | ubuntu MID is horrible |
| 04:21.43 | GeneralAntilles | Hehe |
| 04:21.44 | GeneralAntilles | So I hear. |
| 04:21.55 | GeneralAntilles | It'll get there eventually, though. ;) |
| 04:22.22 | famicom | meh |
| 04:22.23 | GeneralAntilles | You can just grab the Hildon environment if you want to try it. |
| 04:22.29 | famicom | im starting to distrust ubuntu |
| 04:22.45 | GeneralAntilles | It's really targeted at touchscreen devices, though. |
| 04:24.26 | famicom | true |
| 04:24.52 | GeneralAntilles | What about Google's new stuff? |
| 04:24.55 | GeneralAntilles | gOS? |
| 04:24.58 | GeneralAntilles | It's targeted at netbooks. |
| 04:24.59 | famicom | but, the problem with all those ubuntu "mobile" versions, is that canonical are more or less trying to keep "normal users" away from it |
| 04:25.08 | famicom | and wanting to deal only with OEMS |
| 04:26.02 | famicom | is gOS a google thing? |
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| 04:26.41 | edrex | famicom: they own the g* namespace, so yes |
| 04:26.58 | GeneralAntilles | http://www.thinkgos.com/ |
| 04:28.10 | edrex | lxde seems pretty cool actually. I was this || close to having it on my 770 earlier, before discovering my sd card is bad |
| 04:28.59 | moontiger | edrex, is the lxde install safe to do now? |
| 04:29.34 | edrex | moontiger: with deblet? I don't know, I can't proceed till I get a new sd card |
| 04:29.48 | famicom | GeneralAntilles thanks |
| 04:29.51 | famicom | i'll try it later |
| 04:29.59 | famicom | right now, its time to play with maebo |
| 04:30.02 | moontiger | hmmmmmmmm i want to try it but im afraid of stuffing up my tablet |
| 04:30.24 | famicom | maybe i can hack it to run on my windows mobile smartphone |
| 04:30.27 | famicom | that would be cool |
| 04:31.46 | edrex | moontiger: the only modification you need to make to your internal memory is to install bootmenu |
| 04:32.04 | moontiger | hmmmmmmmmmm im very tempted |
| 04:32.15 | moontiger | does it reflash the entire internal memory again? |
| 04:32.25 | moontiger | or is it non-destructive to already installed stuff |
| 04:32.28 | moontiger | ? |
| 04:32.35 | GeneralAntilles | Deblet installs to an SD partition. |
| 04:32.52 | moontiger | GeneralAntilles, but the bootmenu needs to be in internal mem no? |
| 04:32.54 | edrex | moontiger: if you do try it, use the forum instructions (debootstrap --foreign on a ubuntu or debian desktop if you have one around) |
| 04:33.15 | GeneralAntilles | moontiger, the bootmenu is flashed to the initfs partition. |
| 04:33.36 | edrex | of course, I have a bad sd card, so maybe the wiki instructions would work fine |
| 04:33.40 | moontiger | ok so basically non-destructive then yes? |
| 04:34.04 | GeneralAntilles | It doesn't touch the rootfs. |
| 04:34.10 | edrex | moontiger: it leaves the current rootfs in place |
| 04:34.12 | GeneralAntilles | Other to install the bootmenu and Deblet installers. |
| 04:34.26 | moontiger | i really must read up on rootfs and initfs as i dont understand them at all :| |
| 04:37.00 | GeneralAntilles | The internal NAND is broken up into 6 parts. |
| 04:38.17 | famicom | GeneralAntilles |
| 04:38.18 | GeneralAntilles | rootfs )where the OS is located), initfs (used as part of the boot process), kernel, NOLO (the 2-part Nokia bootloader), and the config partition (where some information is kept). |
| 04:38.20 | famicom | i got it to run |
| 04:38.33 | GeneralAntilles | famicom, got what to run? |
| 04:38.46 | famicom | hildon-desktop with plankton |
| 04:38.56 | GeneralAntilles | moontiger, bootup looks like: NOLO -> kernel -> initfs -> rootfs |
| 04:39.08 | moontiger | takes notes... |
| 04:39.33 | moontiger | so the nolo is the proprietary stuff yes? |
| 04:39.46 | moontiger | it starts the kernel ... which does hardware and software init |
| 04:39.54 | moontiger | then the file systems are set up? |
| 04:40.16 | GeneralAntilles | Basically |
| 04:40.29 | moontiger | and is nolo equivalent to the bios startup? |
| 04:40.49 | GeneralAntilles | Approximately |
| 04:40.59 | moontiger | ok now it makes more sense |
| 04:41.01 | moontiger | thank you |
| 04:41.12 | GeneralAntilles | It's changing in Fremantle. |
| 04:41.13 | moontiger | the rootfs and initfs ... what are they exactly? |
| 04:41.21 | GeneralAntilles | rootfs is the OS-proper |
| 04:41.33 | moontiger | like an image of the os that will run? |
| 04:41.43 | GeneralAntilles | initfs is sort of a mini OS that's a stepping stone between the kernel and the rootfs. |
| 04:42.15 | moontiger | oh you mean rootfs is like the full system with all utility apps etc ready? |
| 04:42.20 | edrex | GeneralAntilles: is part of the reason initfs so it can be reused by eg deblet? |
| 04:42.27 | GeneralAntilles | The rootfs is your OS. |
| 04:42.35 | GeneralAntilles | edrex, I don't really know the logic behind the current setup. |
| 04:42.59 | moontiger | ok thanks a lot for that GeneralAntilles ... i'll do some more reading about this stuff |
| 04:43.03 | moontiger | i need to know it |
| 04:43.04 | GeneralAntilles | It does seem to provide a nice way to share proprietary stuff like bme between OSes. |
| 04:43.19 | moontiger | btw why is it all changing in freemantle? |
| 04:43.34 | GeneralAntilles | I don't know the specifics |
| 04:43.41 | GeneralAntilles | But things should be getting faster and more straightforward |
| 04:43.45 | GeneralAntilles | They're switching to upstart |
| 04:43.48 | moontiger | arent they going to be releasing new hardware then too? |
| 04:43.56 | moontiger | oh from the sysv stuff |
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| 04:46.55 | edrex | if I have a jffs2 rootfs built by openembedded (ie, poky 3.1), should I just be able to write it to a partition on sd and boot into it with bootmenu without modification? |
| 04:48.13 | GeneralAntilles | Well, you'll need to have bootmenu setup to boot from that partition. |
| 04:48.40 | edrex | hrw says that wireless can be made to work in poky. not sure how yet, but supposedly there is a recipe for it in openembedded somewhere |
| 04:49.22 | edrex | GeneralAntilles: i'm going to give it a go (still have the 64M card :) |
| 04:52.45 | edrex | i'm just wondering if anything in the image will need to be re-educated. it uses initfs iirc |
| 04:56.27 | famicom | GeneralAntilles could you perhaps tell me what /usr/lib/sapwood/sapwood-server does exactly |
| 04:57.24 | famicom | oh wait, thats just a generall gtk engine |
| 04:57.25 | GeneralAntilles | It's a pixbuf theme engine. |
| 04:57.25 | famicom | my bad |
| 05:08.10 | edrex | can bootmenu load a rootfs on a file on sd |
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| 05:24.00 | edrex | oh... is jffs2 module available in initfs? |
| 05:24.21 | edrex | (trying to set up bootmenu entry for poky) |
| 05:24.59 | edrex | oh, it's builtin i guess duh |
| 05:38.09 | moontiger | GeneralAntilles, does the rotation stuff work with the latest ssu changes? |
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| 06:43.09 | moontiger | does anyone know if this: http://sse2.net/rotate/ works with the latest SSU ? |
| 06:43.21 | GeneralAntilles | Check your PMs. |
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| 06:55.40 | moontiger | GeneralAntilles, that seems to work great and a very simple install :) |
| 06:57.34 | GeneralAntilles | Did the .install work in Application manager for you? |
| 06:58.01 | moontiger | no so i had to do a manual "apt-get install rotation-support-n810" |
| 06:58.07 | moontiger | as root of course |
| 06:58.21 | moontiger | then it was over in 10 seconds |
| 06:58.21 | GeneralAntilles | Too bad. |
| 06:58.32 | GeneralAntilles | Still need to talk to m-vo about why it refuses to work. |
| 06:58.41 | moontiger | ach it was painless enough |
| 06:59.02 | moontiger | makes the web soooooooooooo much easier to use |
| 06:59.51 | moontiger | im curious to see if this version freaks out my icd2 like the previous one did |
| 07:01.28 | moontiger | i'll report back how it works out ... thanks so much again ... im off to bed now ... nn :) |
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| 08:01.04 | fluentis | good morning @all |
| 08:01.20 | fluentis | have realy big trouble with my n810 - need advice... |
| 08:02.15 | fluentis | the installation of xulrunner and wizard-mounter don't work... dpkg gives me "portmap seems to be installed but not configured" |
| 08:02.50 | fluentis | and i'm not able to deinstall the xulrunner, wizard-mounter and portmap... |
| 08:02.58 | Stskeeps | dpkg --configure -a |
| 08:04.52 | fluentis | xulrunner install: segmentation fault |
| 08:05.05 | Stskeeps | dpkg --remove xulrunner i guess |
| 08:05.07 | fluentis | wizard-mounter install : segmentation fault |
| 08:06.03 | ToyKeeper | Wow, lots of packages to upgrade... last I looked it was about 5, but now it's up to 96. |
| 08:06.28 | fluentis | segmenation fault pre-removal script returned error exit status 139 |
| 08:07.26 | fluentis | even while forced... how to deinstall this package? |
| 08:07.37 | fluentis | red-pill doesn't help also |
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| 08:09.50 | fluentis | no idea? |
| 08:10.43 | trenka | fluentis: remove the script |
| 08:10.49 | fluentis | how? |
| 08:10.57 | trenka | with "rm" command |
| 08:11.09 | ToyKeeper | Go to /var/lib/dpkg/info and remove xulrunner.prerm |
| 08:11.09 | fluentis | where to find the script |
| 08:11.17 | fluentis | ok |
| 08:11.19 | ToyKeeper | Then run 'dpkg --remove xulrunner' |
| 08:11.29 | ToyKeeper | I had the same issue. |
| 08:11.50 | ToyKeeper | The postinst and prerm scripts segfault, so dpkg never completes. |
| 08:13.38 | fluentis | japp :) |
| 08:13.45 | fluentis | ToyKeeper: thx a lot |
| 08:15.20 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 08:23.31 | fluentis | hmmm... after removing the packaged i still have some problems to install wizard-mounter... |
| 08:24.39 | ToyKeeper | Different issue. I haven't tried that package, so I'm not sure what's broken. |
| 08:24.49 | fluentis | invoke-rc.d: not a symlink: "/etc/rc2.d/S18portmap" |
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| 08:25.11 | fluentis | sure... but it seems to be a problem with portmap anyway... |
| 08:26.11 | qwerty12 | fluentis: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21613 - read post 7 |
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| 08:34.11 | fluentis | qwerty12: i've read it and changend the file... no changes during installation, still "not a symlink"... should i reboot? |
| 08:34.30 | qwerty12 | fluentis: worked for me, no reboot needed. |
| 08:35.04 | fluentis | maybe i've made something wrong... |
| 08:35.45 | qwerty12 | I'd copy the modified invoke-rc.d from my tablet but the battery is dead on it :? |
| 08:35.47 | qwerty12 | *:/ |
| 08:36.20 | fluentis | np qwerty12, thx |
| 08:36.53 | qwerty12 | what you can do meanwhile is to move /etc/rc2.d/S18portmap to ~ or something and try removing again |
| 08:37.36 | ToyKeeper | BTW, what's a good maemo text editor? Or, how can I get the file selection dialog to show me all files instead of a filtered view? |
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| 08:41.54 | |newbiefluentis| | got it :) |
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| 08:48.00 | fluentis | thx qwerty12, was my mistake - q and 1 on the n810 keyboard ;) |
| 08:48.20 | qwerty12 | hehe, I had to do it with the on screen keyboard :P |
| 08:48.45 | fluentis | :) anyway - works for me like a charm... |
| 08:48.50 | fluentis | thx again |
| 08:49.29 | qwerty12 | np. I used to keep moving my files everytime I got that error until I found out that invoke-rc.d is a script and as you saw, I made a dodgy hack and reiv posted a proper one :) |
| 08:50.06 | fluentis | i think i'll backup alll these files... |
| 08:52.53 | ToyKeeper | Hmm, is there a real version of 'ps' available for maemo? Busybox is kinda ... lacking. |
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| 08:53.29 | qwerty12 | Yeah, I hacked away at the dpkg status file to let me install procps but there's an easier way with only ps, brb |
| 08:54.03 | qwerty12 | http://www.makikiweb.com/n800/downloads/procps_real-3.2.7.armel.deb |
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| 08:59.06 | ToyKeeper | Thanks. That's much nicer. |
| 09:02.40 | ToyKeeper | I love the descriptions of some of the packages... mediaplayer-daemon is "Mediaplayer Daemon" |
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| 09:44.15 | Stskeeps | hangovers and coding time, woop |
| 09:44.16 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 09:57.20 | fluentis | hmmm... after the last ssu there is a hint in nternettablettalk to not to forget about editing the /usr/sbin/osso-usb-mass-storage-enable.sh |
| 09:57.28 | fluentis | but... what is it good for? |
| 09:57.41 | qwerty12 | You only edit osso-usb-mass-storage-enable.sh if you boot off sd card |
| 09:57.57 | fluentis | i do it |
| 09:58.05 | fluentis | intern 2gb |
| 09:58.07 | qwerty12 | then go for it :) |
| 09:58.22 | qwerty12 | It stops maemo from umounting the rootfs if booted off sd |
| 09:58.41 | fluentis | oh |
| 10:00.10 | fluentis | aaaah... i remeber... it helps for the extern computer to see the tablet filesystem connected |
| 10:01.19 | fluentis | but it's just needet if i want to exchange the files between the intern card and computer by cable... never did, i use sd-card reader... so... no need, i suppose... |
| 10:03.39 | lcuk | Stskeeps, its always that time |
| 10:05.01 | lcuk | hates designing user dialogs in code. |
| 10:05.21 | lcuk | i wish there was a way for me to draw them directly |
| 10:06.08 | MangoFusion | which toolkit? |
| 10:07.02 | lcuk | the one i wrote myself, but it could be anything |
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| 10:07.28 | MangoFusion | well why not make a nice dialog builder to go along with it? ;) |
| 10:07.48 | Stskeeps | is using today for shoehorning dm-loop into deblet-in-a-file |
| 10:08.05 | lcuk | yeah it would be nice, but ive had so much other stuff to code its been a bit tough to fine time :) |
| 10:08.17 | MangoFusion | ah i see |
| 10:08.39 | lcuk | anyway MangoFusion if i had done it sooner i would have to keep rewriting it - the interface has been evolving under my fingers |
| 10:09.30 | MangoFusion | no big upfront designs then? |
| 10:09.45 | lcuk | only the ones ive had in my head for years |
| 10:10.03 | lcuk | but those usually involve having infrastructure available |
| 10:10.05 | MangoFusion | haha, kind of what i end up doing |
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| 10:11.31 | lcuk | not really, i have had to use none standard methods and build everything from scratch - i wouldv much prefered to do the same thing in an existing framework |
| 10:11.54 | MangoFusion | in any case, good luck with the rest of it :) |
| 10:12.02 | lcuk | liqbase in component pieces exists as vb code using native controls back here and its much simpler to do ;) |
| 10:12.11 | lcuk | yeah |
| 10:14.51 | MangoFusion | its looking quite neat in the last video |
| 10:16.15 | Stskeeps | wow, that's kinda frightening |
| 10:16.24 | lcuk | MangoFusion, yeah, we hope to have a deb out in the next couple of days :) certain things have come together nicely now. http://liqbase.net/liqriver.php |
| 10:16.25 | Stskeeps | my dm-loop linuxrc worked in first try |
| 10:16.28 | Stskeeps | that can't be good |
| 10:16.36 | lcuk | heh Stskeeps dont be so surprised |
| 10:16.52 | Stskeeps | what am i going to use the rest of the day on then? ;> |
| 10:17.08 | lcuk | chilaxing :) |
| 10:17.15 | lcuk | prepare for your next step |
| 10:17.32 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, reversing cal :P |
| 10:17.42 | lcuk | mornin qwerty12 |
| 10:17.49 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: i'm waiting for austin che to reverse engineer BME atm |
| 10:17.49 | qwerty12 | hey lcuk |
| 10:17.57 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, ah :) |
| 10:18.34 | lcuk | qwerty12, look at that link i posted |
| 10:18.59 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: i honestly don't think CAL is that difficult.. also, it seems there's a DSME call for set/get cal stuff |
| 10:19.03 | Stskeeps | cal.h is just a wrapper for dsme |
| 10:19.10 | Stskeeps | as far as i can tell |
| 10:19.28 | qwerty12 | lcuk, nice! I wish I had a tablet to try your latest beta with :) (I need a new charger :)) |
| 10:19.38 | lcuk | oh no |
| 10:19.43 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: at least cal-tool or wtf communicates with /tmp/dsmesock |
| 10:20.11 | lcuk | i can send you my emergency AA charger and all its connectors - maybe you could mcguyver something - or just hit your 'rants up for one |
| 10:20.34 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, yeah. for me, leaked mce code was an inspiration. but I don't think nokia opensourcing dsme will mean anything regarding cal :( |
| 10:21.00 | qwerty12 | lcuk, hehe, I'll just buy a new one on Monday :). I'm not getting one from the internet again after last time... |
| 10:21.25 | lcuk | good, as long as you can solve it |
| 10:21.53 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: libcalmodule.so is really the kicker |
| 10:21.57 | Stskeeps | dsme as itself is .. boring |
| 10:22.05 | Stskeeps | it doesn't contain functionality beyond being a framework |
| 10:22.36 | GeneralAntilles | Assuming it ever actually gets released. . . . |
| 10:22.53 | GeneralAntilles | and that it hasn't been _completely_ stripped down and moved to mce. . . . |
| 10:22.59 | qwerty12 | If I had a serial cable that worked with the port at the back, I'd be tempted to write to CAL directly using mtd-tools |
| 10:23.17 | Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: dsme is needed much earlier than mce runs, so |
| 10:24.07 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, they may just move mce to initfs or split it and make one part run from initfs. for example, dsmetool exists in both rootfs and initfs |
| 10:24.10 | Stskeeps | mm |
| 10:24.47 | qwerty12 | The biggest thing that is stopping me is that I don't know if CAL has a checksum of any kind |
| 10:25.43 | Stskeeps | i am inclined to think we don't need to care |
| 10:25.49 | Stskeeps | the DSME calls will do it for you |
| 10:39.25 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: sbin/dsme: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), not stripped |
| 10:39.30 | Stskeeps | not stripped.. |
| 10:39.49 | qwerty12 | hmm |
| 10:40.24 | qwerty12 | still would find it easier to hax https://garage.maemo.org/projects/dsm |
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| 10:40.53 | Stskeeps | cal_ is in dsme binary |
| 10:42.23 | Stskeeps | wonders what he can do with those debug symbols |
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| 11:05.51 | Stskeeps | if anyone's into reverse engineering and ARM code, objdump -l -d /mnt/initfs/sbin/dsme is very interesting |
| 11:05.59 | Stskeeps | .. just putting it out there |
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| 11:19.18 | Stskeeps | oh thank god for people who forgot to strip their binaries |
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| 11:40.23 | lcuk | lardman|away, check your mails if you can :) |
| 11:42.57 | GNUton | Hi there |
| 11:44.49 | lcuk | hi GNUton |
| 11:45.05 | lcuk | busy hacking? |
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| 11:47.10 | GNUton | lcuk: Hey lcuk :) no I' m tring to package Qt 4.5 (snapshot) and Marble.. |
| 11:47.22 | lcuk | youch, |
| 11:47.24 | GNUton | I want to test them on the device... |
| 11:47.30 | lcuk | but i bet your packaging still isnt as painful as mine |
| 11:47.41 | lcuk | tests exclusively on device |
| 11:47.52 | GNUton | lcuk: O_o do you have packaged your pet? |
| 11:48.04 | GNUton | That's a great news! :) |
| 11:48.23 | lcuk | :) 1st real alpha release is hours/days away |
| 11:48.42 | lcuk | http://liqbase.net/liqriver.php |
| 11:48.55 | lcuk | this might be in place to add to the ideas fountain :) |
| 11:49.36 | GeneralAntilles | still maintains that it will be filled with evil things. |
| 11:49.42 | GNUton | lcuk: cool your page doesn't work with Konqueror :) |
| 11:49.49 | GeneralAntilles | Needs SVG |
| 11:50.03 | lcuk | GNUton, i am sorry, i am not a web designer or svg person |
| 11:50.11 | GNUton | Yes.. but I guess Konqueror supports SVG |
| 11:50.20 | lcuk | its raw and messy and unprocessed and wrong but its POC |
| 11:50.37 | lcuk | its the idea and principle which counts to me at the moment :) |
| 11:50.49 | lcuk | i am very interested in seeing what works and what doesnt |
| 11:50.50 | jott | hey folks. |
| 11:50.55 | lcuk | morning jott |
| 11:51.08 | GNUton | Hi jott |
| 11:51.25 | GeneralAntilles | lcuk, you'd get a lot better compatibility if you just converted them to pngs. |
| 11:51.26 | GNUton | luck: ok It works fine with arora! :) |
| 11:51.32 | GeneralAntilles | jott, I've got plans. . . . :P |
| 11:51.40 | lcuk | <<<<<<<< FAIL |
| 11:51.49 | lcuk | i could not get png writing working \@/ ive tried about 10 times |
| 11:52.08 | lcuk | i keep bloody trying and it keeps knocking me flat on my back |
| 11:52.09 | lcuk | *ahem* |
| 11:52.12 | GeneralAntilles | Haa |
| 11:52.16 | GeneralAntilles | Poor lcuk. |
| 11:52.25 | jott | use libpng :) |
| 11:52.34 | lcuk | jott, thats the problem, i am trying to |
| 11:53.03 | jott | ah. implement lzw then :P |
| 11:53.17 | lcuk | liquid zip on windows? |
| 11:53.31 | jott | or is it just zip? |
| 11:53.32 | jott | hehe |
| 11:53.42 | jott | yeah |
| 11:53.46 | lcuk | i really dont know why i cant get it working |
| 11:53.49 | jott | what's the problem with libpng? |
| 11:53.57 | GeneralAntilles | liquid zip? Is that lcuk's tear-free zipper animation? |
| 11:53.59 | lcuk | theres a load of things where i keep goin "if i can get a picture i can do xyz" |
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| 11:54.20 | lcuk | and i realise its not done, so i go and try again |
| 11:54.35 | lcuk | ive seriously considered just writing out uncompressed planes |
| 11:54.54 | lcuk | just cant do it :S |
| 11:54.58 | jott | lcuk: does it just not write anything? or write garbage? or what? |
| 11:56.01 | lcuk | no, the last time i built enough of it to set everything - i got down to the final section expecting to be able to do YUV->RGB on a single line and save it |
| 11:56.33 | lcuk | but then realized that i have to preinitialize a whole RGB plane beforehand and pass pointers to all rows |
| 11:57.00 | lcuk | by this time it was late and i had work so i chopped the code out, rebuilt and went to bed |
| 11:57.37 | lcuk | it frustrates me :) |
| 12:00.38 | jott | it's really not that hard. caffeine would have been another solution :) |
| 12:02.35 | lcuk | yer jott :)time is the biggest one |
| 12:03.04 | lcuk | anyone know where lardman is this weekend |
| 12:04.17 | jott | maybe YAW (yet another wedding ;)? |
| 12:04.34 | lcuk | heh |
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| 12:07.41 | jott | browsing the backlog, any news on the dsme source release? i would say the promised 1-2 weeks are nearly over ;) |
| 12:13.04 | GeneralAntilles | jott, nope, but feel free to triage this to pass the time waiting. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3768 |
| 12:19.33 | GeneralAntilles | jott, can you think about how we'd could make Modest user-removable without disrupting all the OS hooks for email too drastically? |
| 12:20.10 | jott | i would *hope* it is all handled by mime types and .desktop files etc... |
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| 12:21.22 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, I don't think it'll be overwhelmingly involved. |
| 12:21.52 | GeneralAntilles | Anybody have a good mime type handler control panel sort of thing we could bundle? |
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| 12:23.19 | GeneralAntilles | Hello, trickie. |
| 12:24.05 | trickie | GeneralAntilles: hey |
| 12:26.04 | Mek | GNUton: pong |
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| 12:28.35 | GNUton | Mek pinK |
| 12:30.43 | Mek | GNUton: yeah, what's up? :) |
| 12:31.04 | Stskeeps | what was that package search url again? |
| 12:31.07 | Stskeeps | fms something? |
| 12:32.00 | jott | Stskeeps: google packrat maemo :) |
| 12:32.06 | Stskeeps | ta |
| 12:39.22 | GNUton | Mek: I wanted to know something about CMake and qemu cvs.. but it'snt fixed yet. :/ |
| 12:39.53 | GNUton | Mek: At moment I think that a fast solution is to force the compilation with the Qt maemo0 packages.. |
| 12:40.25 | GNUton | this is a workaround |
| 12:40.47 | GNUton | but we need to report the bug to the scratchbox devs |
| 12:41.25 | Mek | yeah, completely agree |
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| 12:46.33 | GNUton | Mek: by the way.. how is going your plasma port? I want to port Marble with GPS and Open streetmap support. |
| 12:48.09 | Mek | I haven't really had time yet to do anything but compiling/packaging kde stuff; no maemo specific changes yet. but marble runs quite well, although I haven't tried gps support yet (http://kde.garage.maemo.org/screenshots_kdeedu.html#marble) |
| 12:48.33 | Mek | s/runs quite well/crashes unless you remove some data files/ :) |
| 12:48.56 | Mek | but that crash might just be some unlucky revision I picked |
| 12:52.33 | Mek | ah, no... the crash is because it tries to read qreal's from a binary file... that should probably be doubles :) |
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| 14:18.30 | lopz | hola |
| 14:18.40 | inz | qué tal? |
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| 14:30.48 | lopz | inz, aquÃ, levantando de cama xD |
| 14:30.51 | lopz | y tu ? |
| 14:40.27 | crashanddie | lopz, this ain't #maemo-es, so english please ;) |
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| 14:42.07 | inz | lopz, sorry, don't actually speak spanish ;) |
| 14:42.24 | inz | lopz, but I'm fine ;) |
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| 14:49.50 | lopz | crashanddie, ok, you speak spanish ? |
| 14:50.09 | lopz | inz, cool |
| 14:50.37 | crashanddie | lopz, hardly, other than ordering a beer and asking for directions |
| 14:51.19 | crashanddie | Por donde se va a La Jonquera? |
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| 14:54.11 | lcuk | gestures for beer n has gps and a map for directions |
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| 14:56.11 | crashanddie | lcuk, hagame de hablar mas despacio |
| 14:56.24 | lcuk | ein beer bitter |
| 14:56.45 | lcuk | though this time i was a little better |
| 14:57.10 | GNUton | lcuk: no alcool! :P |
| 14:57.39 | lcuk | heh |
| 14:59.06 | GNUton | there are some stupid teenager under my windows... they are drinking.. singing... I'll kill them in a couple of seconds if they don't go away!! |
| 14:59.25 | GNUton | W plurals! :P |
| 15:00.23 | GNUton | At the end they will leave their garbage on the ground... :( |
| 15:00.26 | crashanddie | Windows always attract shit you don't want |
| 15:01.09 | GNUton | crashanddie: what's the spanish name.. "Buttiglion"? |
| 15:01.23 | crashanddie | eh? |
| 15:02.15 | GNUton | crashanddie: usually in Spain the guys walk and drink... The bring with them a lot of beer and wine.. |
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| 15:02.41 | crashanddie | GNUton, I'm not the spanish guy |
| 15:02.48 | GNUton | crashanddie: ah ok! : |
| 15:02.50 | GNUton | :P |
| 15:03.25 | crashanddie | GNUton, you probably mean Botellons anyway |
| 15:03.47 | crashanddie | botellones** |
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| 15:17.26 | GNUton | crashanddie: yes! :) that's right |
| 15:17.32 | GNUton | netsplit!! |
| 15:19.42 | crashanddie | GNUton, I loved a few miles from Spain for a few odd years, so yeah, I know a few things about Spain, but if you want real info, ask lopz |
| 15:19.54 | crashanddie | hey qgil, how's it going? |
| 15:20.09 | lopz | eh ? |
| 15:20.11 | lopz | xD |
| 15:20.47 | GNUton | lopz == lopez?? |
| 15:20.57 | lopz | not |
| 15:21.06 | GNUton | a ok :) |
| 15:21.07 | lopz | yes yes |
| 15:21.13 | lopz | López |
| 15:21.21 | lopz | mi name.. Jorge López |
| 15:21.22 | crashanddie | Jorge ;) |
| 15:21.24 | lopz | my* |
| 15:21.30 | GNUton | El nombre del gatto... (Ska P) |
| 15:21.37 | lopz | :\ |
| 15:21.40 | lopz | gatto ? |
| 15:21.40 | crashanddie | Jorge J Lopez C? |
| 15:21.44 | lopz | yep |
| 15:21.52 | crashanddie | what do J & C stand for? |
| 15:21.57 | lopz | Jorge Jaime López Cerón :D |
| 15:22.02 | crashanddie | nice |
| 15:22.05 | GNUton | gatto is cat in italian.. I don't remember the tranlation of cat in spanish |
| 15:22.05 | lopz | haha |
| 15:22.09 | lopz | and you crashanddie ' |
| 15:22.21 | crashanddie | lopz, Sebastiaan Roger André Nicholias Alexander Lauwers |
| 15:22.25 | lopz | GNUton, cat == gato, not gatto |
| 15:22.41 | GNUton | ah ok! :) In italian cat == gatto :) |
| 15:22.43 | lopz | wow.. large |
| 15:22.44 | crashanddie | crash in short |
| 15:22.47 | lopz | you name is large |
| 15:23.01 | crashanddie | yeah it is... Posh family |
| 15:23.33 | crashanddie | which is nice, because I have a different name for every (working) day in the week :) |
| 15:23.51 | crashanddie | lopz, where you from in Spain? |
| 15:24.29 | lopz | crashanddie, not, my country is Bolivia, city Santa Cruz de la Sierra |
| 15:24.47 | crashanddie | oh, ok |
| 15:24.56 | lopz | and you ? |
| 15:25.08 | crashanddie | I used to live in Catalunya, southern France |
| 15:25.24 | qgil | crashanddie: well, I was hoping to find timsamoff here... |
| 15:25.57 | crashanddie | qgil, hmm, haven't seen him in here lately, I think he's reserving his typing for emails |
| 15:26.03 | qgil | crashanddie: you in "Catalunya, southern France"? that's a surprise |
| 15:26.16 | crashanddie | qgil, I moved to London 2 months ago |
| 15:26.38 | crashanddie | and why is it surprising for me to be in catalunya? |
| 15:26.38 | qgil | where exactly were you before? |
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| 15:26.46 | crashanddie | Saleilles, right next to Perpignan |
| 15:27.45 | qgil | ah, Salelles ;) |
| 15:28.23 | crashanddie | qgil, no shit, you know the area? |
| 15:28.43 | qgil | I was living in Girona 7 years, so... |
| 15:28.48 | crashanddie | wow |
| 15:28.49 | crashanddie | nice |
| 15:28.57 | crashanddie | lived in Saleilles for 8 years :) |
| 15:29.17 | qgil | I went to Perpinyà to buy cheaper comic books from Moebius and etc |
| 15:29.24 | RST38h | moo all |
| 15:29.26 | crashanddie | yeah yeah |
| 15:29.29 | qgil | many teams |
| 15:29.29 | qgil | many times |
| 15:29.39 | crashanddie | qgil, I played with the Dragons ;) |
| 15:29.42 | qwerty12 | hey RST38h, thanks for uploading Emutools |
| 15:29.58 | RST38h | Motorola To Hire 300 Android Developers |
| 15:30.00 | qgil | also rugby? |
| 15:30.05 | RST38h | qwerty: You are welcome. Do they work? |
| 15:30.21 | qwerty12 | RST38h, No idea, no working tablet atm :) |
| 15:30.22 | RST38h | wonders if Android can really save Motorola |
| 15:30.28 | RST38h | oh |
| 15:30.35 | RST38h | qwerty: I have got a wquestion |
| 15:30.43 | qgil | I played 3 games or so with the GEiEG rugby, but someone found my Achilles and that was it |
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| 15:30.52 | crashanddie | qgil, ouch |
| 15:31.03 | RST38h | Yesterday installation of BOS Wars and FreeCiv made me enable paging to internal flash card in N810 |
| 15:31.14 | qgil | crashanddie: how you got to the Dragons? |
| 15:31.21 | RST38h | I am a little bit fidgety about what this will do the card wearout |
| 15:31.24 | crashanddie | qgil, nha, I was a junior, until a bad melee ripped my knee |
| 15:31.38 | GAN800 | qgil, I haven't been able to coerce Tim to idle here as much as I'd like yet. ;) |
| 15:31.41 | RST38h | What is the current popular opinion on this? Should I disable it? |
| 15:31.42 | crashanddie | qgil, started out in Canet, played for 2 years, a scout noticed me |
| 15:31.59 | crashanddie | RST38h, hiring in London? :-° |
| 15:32.01 | qwerty12 | RST38h, No idea sorry, I'm not really sure about wearing issues. You can move the swap file to external card if you wish though |
| 15:32.06 | GAN800 | RST38h, don't worry about it. |
| 15:32.08 | qgil | crashanddie: so you are born in el Rosselló? |
| 15:32.10 | RST38h | crash: More like Bombay I think :) |
| 15:32.20 | RST38h | qwerty: How? |
| 15:32.23 | RST38h | GAN: sure? |
| 15:32.26 | crashanddie | qgil, not at all, I'm from Belgium originally |
| 15:32.43 | RST38h | crash: Ask yourself if you really wanna be a Java developer =) |
| 15:32.48 | qgil | crashanddie: I se, that is a nice corner of the world |
| 15:33.02 | crashanddie | RST38h, at this point, I'd develop anything to get a job |
| 15:33.09 | GAN800 | Swappiness is about as low as possible and flash cards are about as durable as can be these days. |
| 15:33.27 | crashanddie | RST38h, tuesday I have an interview for a job that will consist of... Converting Windows desktops apps to Linux/Mac |
| 15:33.33 | crashanddie | RST38h, that should tell you how desperate I am |
| 15:33.49 | qwerty12 | RST38h, You may just be able to move the .swap file from mmc2 to mmc1. Based on my (limited) reading of ke-recv sources, ke-recv should automatically enable on either card the .swap file is present on. If that doesn't work, write a quick script in init.d to swapon /media/mmc1/.swap |
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| 15:34.04 | lcuk | would gladly give you a job if he was in a position to :) |
| 15:34.18 | crashanddie | I cook very wel |
| 15:34.19 | crashanddie | well** |
| 15:34.27 | lcuk | do you clean as well? :P |
| 15:34.44 | qwerty12 | I can order takeaway, does that count as cooking? |
| 15:34.50 | crashanddie | qgil, yeah, I'm happy I lived in Catalunya for a while, it has certainly built my character, though, I'm quite happy to be out of France, finally |
| 15:35.25 | qgil | crashanddie: is there any URL to see what you do? |
| 15:35.30 | crashanddie | lcuk, I'll do your dishes for a fiver :P |
| 15:35.37 | crashanddie | what I do? |
| 15:35.57 | qgil | crashanddie: information useful for someone to hire you |
| 15:36.10 | crashanddie | qgil, http://www.linkedin.com/in/sebastianlauwers |
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| 15:37.09 | qgil | crashanddie: have you checked the open positions in Maemo? |
| 15:37.38 | crashanddie | not lately, aren't most of them based in northern europe? |
| 15:38.23 | qgil | mmm yes, some of them might go to California - but if I were you I would try anyway |
| 15:38.41 | qgil | if you're good and you like Maemo and you are looking for a job is not bad that the Maemo team knows about you |
| 15:39.12 | lcuk | qgil, something to make you smile and ponder: http://liqbase.net/liqriver.php |
| 15:39.19 | qgil | and you just said you were "desperately" looking for a job... |
| 15:39.26 | crashanddie | qgil, I have already applied to a few positions (via Nokia's Taleo), never had an answer. I think my lack of experience is the thing that scares a lot of HR |
| 15:40.06 | qgil | could be, dunno |
| 15:40.43 | qgil | lcuk: browsers supported? |
| 15:41.05 | lcuk | god knows - its extremely tempremental home written svg |
| 15:41.16 | lcuk | just to see if the idea will work |
| 15:41.17 | Stskeeps | ah, svg plugin needed? |
| 15:41.42 | RST38h | qwerty: thanks, will try |
| 15:41.44 | lcuk | if thats what you need to view svg yeah - someone could take the svg on the webserver and convert to png |
| 15:41.45 | RST38h | GAN: Understoof |
| 15:42.10 | RST38h | crash: Don't get too desperate, you will find a job sooner or later |
| 15:42.16 | qgil | lcuk: I see several static images and no apparent links, is there any kind of move or interactions? |
| 15:42.31 | lcuk | no qgil :) its my first ever cave painting |
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| 15:42.51 | lcuk | on the device the sketches are uploadable - of course 2 way interaction will be prefered |
| 15:43.09 | qgil | ah, I see |
| 15:44.09 | lcuk | gets back on with finalizing things |
| 15:44.16 | lcuk | catch you later qgil, crashanddie |
| 15:44.27 | crashanddie | lcuk, take care guv |
| 15:44.32 | RST38h | moo lcuk |
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| 15:54.11 | qgil | alright, see you! crashanddie: best luck |
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| 16:10.09 | Stskeeps | strikes dm-loop off his todo list, all done |
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| 16:15.04 | Stskeeps | wonders if there's a curse over people getting debian on 770 |
| 16:15.14 | Stskeeps | electrocuting 770, corrupted SD.. |
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| 18:13.38 | dmsuperman988 | I have a bluetooth keyboard |
| 18:13.44 | dmsuperman988 | I enable it and use it, and all is well |
| 18:13.56 | dmsuperman988 | However, sometimes I wish to use my virtual keyboard without opening my bluetooth keyboard |
| 18:14.11 | dmsuperman988 | What's the easiest way to tell it to use virtual keyboard without unpairing bluetooth? |
| 18:19.44 | dmsuperman988 | *knock knock* |
| 18:19.49 | dmsuperman988 | Anybody here? |
| 18:20.14 | Stskeeps | i'm around but don't have a bluetooth kbd |
| 18:20.15 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 18:20.21 | RST38h | yes? |
| 18:23.45 | dmsuperman988 | Darn |
| 18:23.53 | dmsuperman988 | I can't figure it out |
| 18:24.07 | dmsuperman988 | I just can't enable my virtual keyboard without reconnecting my bluetooth kbd |
| 18:24.11 | dmsuperman988 | And then disconnecting it again |
| 18:24.17 | dmsuperman988 | That usually fixes it |
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| 19:34.36 | Komzpa | I've set a usb network connection from my n800 from console. How can I tell the applications that I'm online? |
| 19:34.52 | Jaffa | A "Dummy" IAP |
| 19:36.02 | Jaffa | Komzpa: https://wiki.maemo.org/USB_networking#Tablet_USB_network_configuration |
| 19:38.19 | Komzpa | Jaffa: thanks |
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| 19:41.18 | woglinde | re |
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| 19:41.46 | kpel | that's a useful url Jaffa. cool! |
| 19:41.50 | woglinde | Komzpa but be aware there are chipsets where usbnet doesnot work |
| 19:41.56 | woglinde | I have one at work |
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| 19:45.19 | Komzpa | woglinde: I've got a working connection, even ssh'ed to the tablet, but browser and friends stil think i'm offline and offer me to connect through gprs. |
| 19:46.04 | mavhc | is there a list of live video streams that work with Video Center? |
| 19:48.16 | crashanddie | Mardi I cast you out ! |
| 19:48.35 | crashanddie | mardi__, Leave now, for my wrath will quickly kindle |
| 19:48.58 | crashanddie | As I have no other which, but to see your life time out, second by second |
| 19:49.02 | crashanddie | wish? |
| 19:49.06 | crashanddie | anyway |
| 19:50.28 | crashanddie | BEGONE ! |
| 19:51.38 | woglinde | Komzpa yes the icd does not know about usbnet |
| 19:56.23 | Stskeeps | http://trac.tspre.org/projects/deblet/wiki <- did a new wiki, any comments? |
| 19:59.18 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: anyone played with maximus and the panel window title/switcher from Ubuntu Netbook Remix? |
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| 19:59.32 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: hmm, no, but that sounds interesting, got an url? |
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| 19:59.46 | Jaffa | Let me look |
| 20:00.15 | Stskeeps | video is okay too :P |
| 20:00.20 | Stskeeps | or scrshot |
| 20:00.42 | Jaffa | Stskeeps: http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/ubuntu_netbook_remix_detailed_explanation shows details & screenshot of maximus & window-picker-applet |
| 20:00.56 | Jaffa | http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/files/www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/nodes/2888/two.jpg - specifically |
| 20:01.14 | jaska | department of redundancy department url |
| 20:01.39 | Stskeeps | Jaffa: that's a interesting way to do task switching, yeah |
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| 20:01.50 | Jaffa | https://edge.launchpad.net/~netbook-remix-team/+archive has source debs |
| 20:02.34 | Jaffa | Also works as a nice simple UI on Jaffa Jr's 1024x768 ThinkPad :) |
| 20:04.09 | Stskeeps | added to todo to look at |
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| 20:37.54 | AStorm | RST38h: you wanted something? |
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| 20:41.47 | RST38h | AStorm: Possibly. But I no longer remember what =( |
| 20:42.12 | AStorm | got some ctcp ping from you |
| 20:42.48 | RST38h | ah, that one...there was a split so I was checking who was still alive |
| 20:43.04 | AStorm | mhm |
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| 20:52.51 | RST38h | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2008/10/L1010485.JPG |
| 20:53.10 | RST38h | So they finally installed the full OSX on an iPhone! |
| 20:53.19 | RST38h | [ok, very large iphone] |
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| 21:09.19 | moontiger | does anybody know about the claws mail update being broken? |
| 21:09.51 | moontiger | ok ... that they just fixed |
| 21:09.53 | moontiger | ignore me |
| 21:09.54 | moontiger | \:) |
| 21:11.17 | Stskeeps | done |
| 21:11.18 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 21:11.19 | Stskeeps | ;> |
| 21:11.39 | moontiger | laughs |
| 21:12.05 | Stskeeps | anyone know of a battery meter, tray applet, that uses HAL? |
| 21:12.13 | Stskeeps | and doesn't require a shitload of dependancies |
| 21:12.28 | moontiger | it will require libhal tho yes? |
| 21:12.46 | Stskeeps | that's fine really :P |
| 21:14.15 | moontiger | am i missing something but isnt that really simple to code? |
| 21:14.30 | Stskeeps | that's probably simple to code, yes, but not something i want to spend time on :P |
| 21:14.38 | Stskeeps | there exists one for xfce4 but it's a mess |
| 21:14.39 | moontiger | is it for deblet? |
| 21:14.42 | Stskeeps | yeah |
| 21:14.52 | moontiger | which is debian lenny yes? |
| 21:14.53 | Stskeeps | so should use freedesktop applet protocol or wtf exists :P |
| 21:14.55 | Stskeeps | yes |
| 21:15.16 | moontiger | ok well i'll have a look at writing one if you can wait a few days until later in the week |
| 21:15.24 | moontiger | maybe its way to hard |
| 21:15.28 | moontiger | but i can have a look |
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| 21:16.00 | moontiger | in C yes? so its small |
| 21:16.28 | moontiger | my gf is away all next week so i'll have some time in the evenings |
| 21:16.49 | lcuk | to play with your small thing? |
| 21:16.58 | Stskeeps | moontiger: http://rafb.net/p/bAFQzX58.html |
| 21:17.04 | Stskeeps | so it's pretty direct once you have hal stuff |
| 21:18.11 | moontiger | Stskeeps, i'll look at it this week ... sounds like fun :) |
| 21:18.22 | moontiger | lcuk, i dont have a "thing" ;) |
| 21:18.24 | Stskeeps | have fun - a battery applet is really needed so :P |
| 21:18.45 | moontiger | and maemo has the hal stuff in it yes? |
| 21:18.53 | Stskeeps | yes, same backend we use |
| 21:18.58 | moontiger | ok cool |
| 21:18.59 | moontiger | :) |
| 21:20.20 | jott | just keep in mind not just to do while(1) { update_battery_display(); } :P |
| 21:20.40 | moontiger | ummmmm yah or it wont be needed much as battery == dead real soon |
| 21:21.14 | jott | you see the battery applet literally drain the battery ;) |
| 21:22.21 | moontiger | i'll do some research and then have a go at coding it :) |
| 21:23.37 | Stskeeps | sounds good.. i'm getting slightly angry that having a dependancy on gnome, for some silly applets.. drags in evolution-data-server-common |
| 21:23.37 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 21:23.37 | Stskeeps | .. |
| 21:23.37 | Stskeeps | and -server, seemingily. |
| 21:23.50 | moontiger | i saw that in some stuff too ... the pimlico calendar stuff |
| 21:24.08 | Stskeeps | that makes somewhat more sense, but yeah |
| 21:24.08 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 21:24.18 | moontiger | still annoying imo |
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| 21:28.29 | jott | hello qole |
| 21:28.40 | woglinde | he jott |
| 21:28.50 | jott | ...and woglinde :) |
| 21:28.54 | qole | hey |
| 21:29.30 | Stskeeps | moontiger: http://gnomefiles.org/app.php/Battery_Applet_4_xfce4_panel has decent source code, but making a deb package for it was a bitch for me last :P |
| 21:29.51 | Stskeeps | and it "only" requires gtk, libxfce* and dbus-dev, hal-dev :P |
| 21:29.54 | Stskeeps | 'lo qole |
| 21:30.21 | moontiger | you guys use lxde yes? |
| 21:30.30 | moontiger | and that is pure freedesktop stuff no? |
| 21:30.46 | Stskeeps | think it supports it decently, yeah |
| 21:30.56 | Stskeeps | but we should have an applet that would work in most systray stuff so |
| 21:30.57 | qole | I'm surrounded by Germans here, don't understand them, so I'm hacking around on matchbox-keyboard. |
| 21:31.10 | woglinde | qole haha |
| 21:31.18 | woglinde | here you are sourrounded too |
| 21:32.06 | jott | wir könnten jetzt alle plötzlich deutsch reden :P |
| 21:32.10 | qole | but you are writing in English! |
| 21:32.22 | woglinde | jott okay machen wird *g* |
| 21:32.23 | Stskeeps | qole: ta for the heads up on dm-loop, even though the boot script for it will haunt my conscience for the rest of my life |
| 21:32.26 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 21:32.31 | qole | hm, I spoke too soon. |
| 21:32.38 | moontiger | Stskeeps, i'll do my best this week :) |
| 21:32.41 | jott | qole: you just asked for it :> |
| 21:33.38 | jott | qole: where are you actually to be surrounded by germans? |
| 21:33.42 | qole | dm-loop makes image files viable again. |
| 21:34.36 | Stskeeps | qole: there's also interesting possibilities for copy-on-write stuff |
| 21:34.53 | qole | In Canada! They're all here for my wife's father's 'round' birthday. |
| 21:35.51 | qole | I have IRC to thank for Matan's work on dm-loop |
| 21:41.55 | woglinde | qole so eat some "bratwurst mit sauerkraut" |
| 21:43.17 | qole | we had leberkase for lunch |
| 21:47.10 | woglinde | qole yummie |
| 21:48.27 | moontiger | ok guys ... see you later ... off to haqve some fun irl ;) |
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| 22:09.27 | Jaredu | anyone know why when using transmission it says permission denied when i try to download torrents? |
| 22:09.37 | Jaredu | it downloads for a sec then says permission denied |
| 22:09.40 | Jaredu | which i find odd |
| 22:11.09 | woglinde | nite all |
| 22:11.38 | Jaredu | night |
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| 22:21.28 | Jaredu | lcuk2! |
| 22:21.44 | Jaredu | hey man is there a way i could help out testing the new liqbase? |
| 22:22.53 | Jaredu | :'( |
| 22:23.07 | Stskeeps | #liqbase and grab him when he's around ;) |
| 22:23.44 | Jaredu | thats Stskeeps |
| 22:23.46 | Jaredu | :) |
| 22:23.47 | Jaredu | thanks* |
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| 23:10.50 | timeless | ping |
| 23:10.58 | lcuk | double ping |
| 23:10.58 | timeless | Device storage memory full. Delete some data to free memory. |
| 23:11.08 | timeless | anyone ever see that? |
| 23:11.27 | timeless | i got it trying to open "date and time" |
| 23:12.23 | timeless | nicer. Sounds just won't open. |
| 23:16.30 | GeneralAntilles | Not personally |
| 23:16.37 | GeneralAntilles | I've seen people complain about it, though. |
| 23:16.39 | GeneralAntilles | Don't know a fix. |
| 23:17.36 | ShadowJK | so um, where's the wiki |
| 23:17.58 | Jaredu | lcuk! :D |
| 23:18.09 | GeneralAntilles | http://wiki.maemo.org/ |
| 23:18.21 | ShadowJK | oh right, you just need to click refresh 10 times to get a page that isn't blank :) |
| 23:18.27 | timeless | gan: fix is to have more than 3mb free on / |
| 23:20.12 | GeneralAntilles | ShadowJK, more like once or twice if the Apache thread segfaults. |
| 23:20.17 | GeneralAntilles | Your browser was probably caching. |
| 23:20.25 | ShadowJK | I did do shift-reload |
| 23:20.42 | ShadowJK | is it segfaulting often.. |
| 23:21.16 | GeneralAntilles | Occasionally |
| 23:21.22 | GeneralAntilles | Waiting on the server changeover for a fix. |
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| 23:23.57 | Jaredu | lcuk! |
| 23:24.12 | lcuk2 | Jaredu!? |
| 23:25.02 | Jaredu | hihi |
| 23:25.11 | Jaredu | any clue if i could help out in testing the liqbase beta? :D |
| 23:25.16 | Jaredu | it'd be great if possible hehheh |
| 23:25.24 | Jaredu | dunno if you're offering the download or anything |
| 23:25.27 | Jaredu | but it'd be great |
| 23:25.33 | Jaredu | it shows great promise :) |
| 23:26.27 | lcuk2 | yer, theres a chan where i seem to be asking random questions in at the moment about it all :) if you go there you will get first dibs on the package - even before it hits extras-dev |
| 23:26.37 | lcuk2 | Jaredu, indeed it does |
| 23:26.40 | lcuk2 | #liqbase |
| 23:26.40 | timeless | aww fsck |
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| 23:27.26 | lcuk2 | what you broke now timeless |
| 23:33.45 | timeless | this is so much fun |
| 23:34.02 | timeless | images kinda crashed |
| 23:34.48 | GeneralAntilles | Hit it with a stick until it complies with your will. |
| 23:47.07 | timeless | nice, media player doesn't work |
| 23:47.56 | GAN800 | timless, that's new? :P |
| 23:49.41 | timeless | my definition is simpler than yours ;) |
| 23:51.14 | timeless | arg, my touch screen failed. |
| 23:51.25 | timeless | how can i file my bug!? |
| 23:51.28 | GAN800 | N810? |
| 23:52.15 | timeless | one of my two n800s. I could use the other or the n810... |
| 23:52.45 | timeless | rummages for the older n800 |
| 23:53.10 | timeless | oh, i brought my 770 too |
| 23:55.45 | timeless | i'm only on 5 or so, probably osol discuss or xen |
