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| 02:09.23 | gregorovius | what's the best size for canola cover files? could anyone check theirs and tell me? |
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| 02:46.30 | GeneralAntilles | Crap |
| 02:46.39 | GeneralAntilles | Wiki's in ro |
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| 02:55.15 | lopz | night |
| 02:59.45 | gregorovius | Jaffa: is there any chance some subtitle support could be added to tablet-encode? basically just detect if there's a .srt or .sub with the same name as the avi and pass some parameters to mencoder. I really don't understand perl enough to do it myself, but maybe with some pointers... |
| 03:03.30 | gregorovius | I get the 'push @params' part, and I'd know pretty much what to pass, but I don't know how to add the subtitle detection logic |
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| 03:34.45 | gregorovius | I have to go, but actually only 1 line is needed: push @params, '-sub', 'subfile.srt'; ... the default settings look pretty well, at least with the 'best' setting |
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| 05:28.47 | tekojo | Morning |
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| 05:36.09 | Ave | hi. is there a way to make the ctrl key sticky in n810 like shift and fn are? |
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| 05:49.32 | gnuton | Ave: you need to change the code of the Hildon Input Method |
| 05:51.01 | gnuton | Ave: you need to change both HIM framework and Main HIM UI |
| 05:56.00 | Ave | at source level? |
| 05:56.34 | Ave | ie changing the rx44 xkb defs does noot do it? |
| 05:56.55 | Ave | cant find any defs for shift nor fn atleast |
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| 06:08.09 | AStorm | hmm |
| 06:08.21 | AStorm | I just had a crash of diablo |
| 06:08.29 | AStorm | as in, full reboot |
| 06:08.40 | AStorm | which means one of the watchdogs triggered |
| 06:09.21 | AStorm | wifi was active, wpa2-psk connection, browser was opened |
| 06:10.10 | AStorm | the device was connected to charger |
| 06:12.42 | AStorm | background processes: mail checker, omweather, clock |
| 06:12.58 | AStorm | desktop was visible |
| 06:14.28 | AStorm | bluetooth was inactive |
| 06:15.22 | qwerty12 | http://wiki.maemo.org/Reporting_reboot_issues . But in all honesty, shit happens. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a day where I didn't take out my battey (I keep watchdog disabled) |
| 06:15.59 | AStorm | well, for me it's very rare |
| 06:16.16 | AStorm | and I keep the device almost always on and use it heavily |
| 06:23.49 | AStorm | qwerty12: obviously the reason was 32wd_to |
| 06:23.59 | AStorm | which means watchdog |
| 06:25.06 | qwerty12 | I'd place a bet on the kernel crash. browserd is a cpu eater but I've never experienced an restart from it. you don't happen to be running ksyslogd? |
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| 06:26.47 | Ave | I've had only one occasion where I had to remove the battey feom my 810 |
| 06:27.34 | qwerty12 | When I got my N800, the battery was in so tight that I would use a knife to get it out. Now, even my fingers work. |
| 06:27.43 | AStorm | qwertz12: not yet, i's a fairly fresh diablo |
| 06:28.22 | AStorm | qwerty12: heh, I tended to use a zen slap to get the battery out |
| 06:28.39 | qwerty12 | hehe |
| 06:29.16 | qwerty12 | bitch slaps webkit, I keep doing dodgy things for it to compile |
| 06:30.00 | AStorm | I have 2 in 32wd_to, hmm |
| 06:30.19 | AStorm | didn't notice any other reboot... |
| 06:31.08 | AStorm | an wait |
| 06:31.33 | AStorm | dduring flashing, one :P (my giving wrong options to the flasher) |
| 06:32.19 | AStorm | btw, Version:Â 4.2008.36-5 |
| 06:34.32 | AStorm | I see people get reboot loops with this |
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| 06:36.47 | AStorm | btw, what is this EAC dsp item? |
| 06:37.30 | AStorm | I meant eap |
| 06:38.13 | qwerty12 | It's shit. It's only set to show if DEBUG is enabled in the kernel, but if you run a 2.6.21-omap1 kernel with DEBUG disabled, mce hangs on shutdown. I ended up commenting the eac lines to stop it from showing in kernel log |
| 06:38.15 | qwerty12 | oh, eap |
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| 06:40.15 | AStorm | aep that is |
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| 06:41.38 | jaem | hello all |
| 06:41.46 | AStorm | what is that aep dsp module? |
| 06:42.03 | AStorm | (or should I get a disassembler and waste a day) |
| 06:42.58 | AStorm | qwerty12: mce does work w/o debug: the problem is 2.6.21-omap bug |
| 06:43.42 | AStorm | or rather, compiler bug |
| 06:44.17 | jaem | I've been using Telepathy-haze for MSN on my N810 for a couple of weeks, and I've noticed that it doesn't allow me to initiate conversations through MSN - only receive them. I'm suspecting that this is because I use Google Talk on the N810, using the same e-mail address; when I try to start an MSN chat, it thinks it's Google Talk, tells me the remote contact is unauthorized, and bounces all messages... |
| 06:44.34 | jaem | it works fine when I don't have a second account with the same address set up |
| 06:45.13 | jaem | since haze is developed by someone else, I was unsure where I should file the bug. Can anyone tell me? |
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| 06:45.43 | jaem | I'm not sure what component is causing the problem, and I don't have time to go through the sources (exams ><) |
| 06:46.14 | AStorm | file a bug against the client and let them handle the component :> |
| 06:46.23 | jaem | ok - thanks |
| 06:48.54 | jaem | also, any idea why the Nokia Catalogue (Diablo) updates repo requires a login? I didn't have that issue previously |
| 06:49.55 | GeneralAntilles | Because there's stuff under license in there? |
| 06:50.07 | jaem | fair enough, but it worked before |
| 06:50.12 | jaem | as far as I recall |
| 06:50.22 | GeneralAntilles | Before Diablo was released. |
| 06:50.25 | GeneralAntilles | Way before. |
| 06:50.43 | jaem | maybe I'm just crazy... it wouldn't be the first time :P |
| 06:51.20 | jaem | so... is it possible to gain access to it, then? or is it restricted |
| 06:51.33 | GeneralAntilles | Sure, but it doesn't provide directory listing. |
| 06:51.39 | jaem | I just got my N810 two weeks ago, so I'm not quite up on everything |
| 06:51.56 | jaem | how do I get credentials for it? |
| 06:52.08 | GeneralAntilles | Check the apt patches on mxr.maemo.org for the password. |
| 06:52.15 | jaem | thanks |
| 06:52.24 | qwerty12 | http://mxr.maemo.org/diablo/source/apt-0.7.6maemo2/http-tablet- identification.patch |
| 06:52.30 | qwerty12 | http://mxr.maemo.org/diablo/source/apt-0.7.6maemo2/http-tablet-identification.patch |
| 06:53.08 | qwerty12 | Because you can't browse the directory, what I do is grab the Packages file |
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| 06:59.51 | jaem | @General: you'll have to excuse me, but I still don't quite follow... |
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| 07:14.22 | Ave | gnuton: ok I believe I got it, hacking the hildon-input (framework) sources |
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| 07:22.22 | RST38h | boo |
| 07:22.27 | RST38h | qwerty |
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| 07:46.20 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 07:54.22 | RST38h | moo, Jaffa |
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| 09:24.44 | lcuk | says good mornin in here instead |
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| 09:25.27 | Stskeeps | morn |
| 09:25.44 | lcuk | hi sts :) |
| 09:25.52 | lcuk | had not much sleep again |
| 09:28.23 | lcuk | are there any combined php + svg gods in the channel. i have a small thing that I spent some time struggling with and could do with some guidance. liqbase sketch files into simple svg files on my webserver. i can give base code that i've started and examples and layouts of the files needed if anyone can help |
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| 09:30.48 | lcuk | pm me if you think you can. |
| 09:31.15 | lcuk | gets on with tps reports @/ |
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| 09:55.12 | thux | Stskeeps: tried lxde-env got same errors http://pastebin.com/m1af9962b |
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| 10:07.28 | Stskeeps | thux: did you use Dialog or GTK? |
| 10:08.19 | thux | dialog |
| 10:08.22 | Stskeeps | hm. |
| 10:08.29 | Stskeeps | i guess something went wrong in tablet-user |
| 10:08.47 | Stskeeps | it's a bit of a work in progress right now :) |
| 10:09.00 | thux | i understand |
| 10:09.07 | Stskeeps | thux: if you can isolate the error in tablet-user that'd be wonderful |
| 10:09.19 | Stskeeps | i guess you make sure you make a fresh ext3 on the partition, right? |
| 10:10.13 | thux | this installer is quit now but in sd card is what it installed |
| 10:10.18 | Stskeeps | ok |
| 10:10.28 | thux | where logs? |
| 10:10.34 | Stskeeps | it doesn't really log that well yet |
| 10:10.37 | Stskeeps | try chroot /mnt/deblet apt-get install tablet-user |
| 10:10.46 | thux | ok |
| 10:11.54 | Stskeeps | (i guess you didn't reboot since then, .. i hope) |
| 10:12.06 | thux | no |
| 10:17.08 | Stskeeps | (paste me what apt-get install tablet-user shows, on pastebin) |
| 10:18.28 | thux | Stskeeps: it first said it is newest but then configured it is it now ready to reboot? |
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| 10:18.50 | Stskeeps | it succeeded in configuring? .. |
| 10:19.20 | Stskeeps | can i see the pastebin of it? |
| 10:19.27 | thux | yes only locale complaints |
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| 10:20.00 | Stskeeps | no, not ready to reboot yet sadly |
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| 10:20.22 | Stskeeps | did it during the process ask you about Tablet user real name and username and password and such? |
| 10:20.57 | thux | yes before installer failed |
| 10:21.21 | Stskeeps | besides the password, what did you put as answers? |
| 10:21.32 | thux | user |
| 10:21.45 | thux | no real name |
| 10:21.54 | Stskeeps | ok, that might have been the problem |
| 10:22.06 | Stskeeps | can you do chroot /mnt/deblet debconf-show tablet-user |
| 10:22.13 | Stskeeps | change your password to *** and pastebin it |
| 10:22.17 | GeneralAntilles | Yeesh http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3767 |
| 10:22.27 | GeneralAntilles | hadn't realized he needed to bring out the kid gloves for that one. |
| 10:23.11 | thux | i try |
| 10:23.58 | Jaffa | GeneralAntilles: hmm |
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| 10:53.04 | GeneralAntilles | Wiki and planet are down. Here's to hoping it's a server move. . . . |
| 10:54.57 | Jaffa | yeah |
| 10:58.17 | RST38h | It is the end of the world. |
| 10:58.50 | RST38h | HE started with the transatlantic cable as an appetizer. |
| 10:59.08 | GeneralAntilles | RST38h, the nukes went off in the wiki server. |
| 11:03.17 | JamieBennett | planet is working for me |
| 11:03.43 | GeneralAntilles | Apparently it's back up. |
| 11:03.46 | JamieBennett | :D |
| 11:03.54 | JamieBennett | but is it faster? |
| 11:03.55 | GeneralAntilles | . . . and feels a helluva lot faster. |
| 11:04.17 | JamieBennett | yup |
| 11:04.20 | JamieBennett | :D |
| 11:04.44 | RST38h | They pulled out Nokia 7710 from the closet and replaced the 770 with it? |
| 11:05.32 | JamieBennett | planet is so much faster, weeeeeeee |
| 11:06.05 | lcuk | stop the planet, i wanna get off! |
| 11:06.09 | lcuk | hi JamieBennett |
| 11:06.10 | RST38h | goes to check: let us see how it fares after I log in |
| 11:06.22 | JamieBennett | Hi lcuk :) |
| 11:06.33 | RST38h | lCuK |
| 11:06.33 | JamieBennett | https is still a little slow though |
| 11:06.40 | Jaffa | JamieBennett: how much did you end up paying for your Beagleboard/ |
| 11:06.58 | RST38h | Once you log in it is still slow =( |
| 11:07.04 | RST38h | No, no bagel this time |
| 11:07.05 | JamieBennett | I replied to your comment but to cut a long story short about £105 |
| 11:07.11 | lcuk | cant afford a beagleboard or a pandora :( |
| 11:07.39 | RST38h | lcuk: let us just save for N9x0 |
| 11:07.49 | JamieBennett | I have a serial cable coming from ebay now as its one of them 10 pin header jobbies |
| 11:07.51 | Jaffa | JamieBennett: hey, that's not bad. Is that just some special discount? |
| 11:07.53 | RST38h | 'cause the first is a devkit and the second is vapor =) |
| 11:08.17 | Jaffa | reads JamieBennett's blog comment |
| 11:08.20 | JamieBennett | Jaffa: No, £89 delivered + £15.46 import duty |
| 11:08.22 | Jaffa | Shame I've <0 money. |
| 11:08.24 | JamieBennett | So about £105 |
| 11:08.28 | GeneralAntilles | It was $195 here. |
| 11:08.35 | GeneralAntilles | With a power adaptor |
| 11:08.37 | lcuk | lol RST38h yeah right, where do saving come from |
| 11:09.02 | RST38h | lcuk: you have still got two kidneys, haven't you? =) |
| 11:09.03 | lcuk | hasn't got a moneytree |
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| 11:09.07 | lcuk | PMSL |
| 11:09.33 | lcuk | hang on, thats actually a possibility - they pay more for young healthy organs dont they :D |
| 11:09.43 | lcuk | dreams up imaginary ideas of auctioning off his kids |
| 11:10.00 | RST38h | lcuk: children!!! |
| 11:10.04 | RST38h | great minds think alike |
| 11:10.31 | RST38h | lcuk: Or you can sell off some secret gov documents you have found in the subway |
| 11:11.18 | RST38h | Isn't it going to be a classic UK story glorified by Sherlock Holmes novels? |
| 11:11.27 | lcuk | i only found people playing games on old pdas, no gov docs :( |
| 11:11.39 | RST38h | shit |
| 11:11.52 | JamieBennett | Jaffa: Got as far as making sure the leds light up with the BB but no further. Really need a serial cable and a whole lot of time. I'll have more of a play tonight, I'm determined to get some bling on it (I even have a touch screen here to attach :)) |
| 11:12.25 | GeneralAntilles | Make sure you get the correct serial cable. |
| 11:12.25 | Jaffa | JamieBennett: :) |
| 11:12.50 | JamieBennett | GeneralAntilles: Its the 10 pin header jobbies. Ordered from ebay. |
| 11:12.53 | Stskeeps | lcuk: should set up a donation paypal for liqbase :P |
| 11:12.57 | lcuk | JamieBennett, the general is right, so go to his blog and read his notes and then do the opposite ;) |
| 11:13.06 | lcuk | yes stskeeps i should :) |
| 11:13.10 | GeneralAntilles | Make sure it's a straight-through adaptor 1-1, 2-2, 3-3, etc. |
| 11:13.20 | lcuk | but i dunno how to do that, im not a webman |
| 11:13.30 | Stskeeps | lcuk: it's pretty simple afaik.. sec |
| 11:13.33 | GeneralAntilles | JamieBennett, just be careful if you decide to flash a new u-boot and xloader onto NAND. |
| 11:13.41 | lcuk | GeneralAntilles, !!! time to finally bring your stylish interface into play |
| 11:13.47 | JamieBennett | Its recoverable though from what I read |
| 11:13.50 | GeneralAntilles | Personally, I'd recommend just booting off ones on the card. |
| 11:13.54 | GeneralAntilles | JamieBennett, yeah, well. |
| 11:14.26 | GeneralAntilles | lcuk, content? |
| 11:14.34 | JamieBennett | Have you posted your finding with the BB on your blog? |
| 11:14.35 | GeneralAntilles | Or just so you can fill it with PayPal buttons? :P |
| 11:14.49 | lcuk | uh huh - im about half a coding day from first package :) so yes |
| 11:14.51 | lcuk | lol |
| 11:14.51 | GeneralAntilles | JamieBennett, my only blog is maemo.org/community/council :P |
| 11:14.57 | JamieBennett | :( |
| 11:15.16 | GeneralAntilles | JamieBennett, I have learned quite a bit along the way, so let me know if you run into any roadblocks. ;) |
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| 11:15.27 | lcuk | by the end of the weekend i hope to have the first package at least in extras dev, its quite nice now |
| 11:15.34 | GeneralAntilles | The wiki pages on elinux.org are pretty good, though. |
| 11:15.44 | Stskeeps | lcuk: merchant services -> "Donations", and there's a nice guide |
| 11:15.47 | JamieBennett | General Antilles: If you have notes then please send them my way, I'll still reading the documentation on beagleboard.org |
| 11:15.48 | Stskeeps | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.07 | lcuk | and there was a guy at the summit showing off an SVG customizable VKB - ive just hit him up and see if he wants to bring some of his greatness in to make the keyboard work well |
| 11:16.30 | GeneralAntilles | JamieBennett, only two lines of bootargs, unfortunately. |
| 11:16.36 | lcuk | Stskeeps, am i a merchant? i think we have a palpal account - tracy keeps gettin shoes from ebay so i assume so |
| 11:17.08 | Stskeeps | lcuk: there's no startup fees afaik so |
| 11:18.03 | GeneralAntilles | JamieBennett, RST38h, part of the https slowness is because it's not cached. |
| 11:18.05 | Stskeeps | lcuk: i can recommend it atleast, we've gotten quite a bit of donations in my other project :P |
| 11:18.16 | lcuk | oh cripes, ill go through it during the weekend, :) "live" sketching now works and from the special new screen will automatically try to upload your sketch to liqbase.net. i started coding .liqsketch -> svg in php last night but it needs some more work |
| 11:18.17 | JamieBennett | GeneralAntilles: Yes |
| 11:18.57 | GeneralAntilles | Stskeeps, can we push the same initfs image for both the N800 and N810? |
| 11:19.51 | Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: i think so, fanoush's only patch based on initfs version |
| 11:20.00 | Stskeeps | and in latest update he only updated one version / file |
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| 11:20.10 | RST38h | General: This is a dummy reason |
| 11:20.34 | RST38h | General: Of course it is not cached: it has to process requests for dynamic content |
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| 11:20.45 | lcuk_urg | did real me fall out? |
| 11:20.54 | Jaffa | Nope |
| 11:20.55 | GeneralAntilles | RST38h, http is faster because it's cached. |
| 11:20.57 | RST38h | General: The real question is why the system that provides dynamic content (Midgard?) is so damn slow? |
| 11:21.04 | lcuk_urg | hmmm vnc at home has stopped responding |
| 11:21.08 | lcuk_urg | hope the house hasnt burnt down |
| 11:21.09 | Stskeeps | lcuk: no ping response |
| 11:21.09 | GeneralAntilles | Because it's on a slow server. |
| 11:21.20 | GeneralAntilles | Stskeeps, do you want to start thinking about a .deb deployment? |
| 11:21.23 | RST38h | Why is it STILL on a slow server? |
| 11:21.38 | RST38h | It takes <$2000 to get a server nowadays |
| 11:21.39 | Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: i can think of it but i think we should have fanoush in over it |
| 11:21.47 | lcuk_urg | Stskeeps: heh, i gathered that much |
| 11:22.00 | GeneralAntilles | RST38h, presumably because they're still working on the changeover. |
| 11:22.12 | Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: diversity in boot menus already cause problems (penguinbait's, fanoush's, my set.. etc) |
| 11:22.16 | GeneralAntilles | Stskeeps, hehe, add another item to the end of his list? ;) |
| 11:22.28 | RST38h | General: Well, my guess is that the server is not to blame here |
| 11:22.30 | Stskeeps | he's more than open to people helping out |
| 11:22.33 | Stskeeps | i have bootmenu svn access so |
| 11:22.56 | GeneralAntilles | Nah, that sounds good. |
| 11:23.02 | RST38h | General: It is Midgard to blame and somebody should at least check just what database queries it is making |
| 11:23.11 | GeneralAntilles | Whenever rm_you gets active again I'm going to accost him with plans for a GUI bootmenu control panel. |
| 11:23.51 | RST38h | General: Example: SELECT random_shit FROM USERS WHERE NAME=login |
| 11:24.24 | RST38h | General: nice looking query that will be dog slow if your USERS have not been indexed by NAME |
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| 11:24.39 | Stskeeps | lcuk's burning house is back online! |
| 11:24.40 | Stskeeps | :p |
| 11:24.57 | Stskeeps | lcuk_urg: i wonder same thing when my home stops responding |
| 11:24.58 | Stskeeps | :P |
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| 11:25.33 | lcuk_urg | !!!! |
| 11:25.34 | povbot | lcuk_urg: Error: "!!!" is not a valid command. |
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| 11:25.54 | lcuk3 | is a pheonix |
| 11:26.07 | lcuk3 | or a phoenix outside of liqland |
| 11:26.18 | lcuk3 | oh ffs i fail at life |
| 11:26.26 | aquatix | why's that? |
| 11:26.30 | GeneralAntilles | Well, duh. |
| 11:26.36 | Stskeeps | lcuk3: some years ago when there was a server room fire at some uni in netherlands, people could watch temperature rising of their soon-to-be-burnt-to-death hds |
| 11:26.39 | aquatix | stumbles in |
| 11:26.40 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 11:26.41 | lcuk_urg | cos i can't spell :) |
| 11:26.48 | lcuk_urg | lol sts |
| 11:27.01 | RST38h | do you have to? |
| 11:27.08 | aquatix | Stskeeps: heh, yeah |
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| 11:27.42 | lcuk_urg | RST38h: yes its more self-facepalmish than anything cos i *know* things are wrong, i just cant type them correctly the first time |
| 11:28.02 | RST38h | psychiatrists have a word for that. |
| 11:28.18 | RST38h | [I don't remember which one. Psychiatrists have a word for THAT too.] |
| 11:29.07 | lcuk_urg | in your case thats alzheimer's :P |
| 11:29.17 | RST38h | Oh really? =) |
| 11:29.23 | RST38h | COOL! |
| 11:29.39 | Stskeeps | lcuk_urg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lp0_on_fire seems relevant at this point |
| 11:30.24 | lcuk3 | heh |
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| 11:31.29 | Veggen | Stskeeps: a year or two before I came here, there was a cooling system failure in the server room. the backup cooling sent excess heat out in the air. |
| 11:31.45 | Stskeeps | hehe |
| 11:31.46 | Veggen | Stskeeps: it started a grass fire on the outside of the building :) |
| 11:32.01 | lcuk3 | back in a bit |
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| 11:32.35 | Veggen | (and I think the fire destroyed the fiber to the building, too) |
| 11:35.05 | Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: https://garage.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/bootmenu-devel btw |
| 11:36.19 | Stskeeps | GeneralAntilles: even if fremantle changes boot process, it's still far off.. it's just silly there's no real info on -what- changes |
| 11:36.22 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 11:38.38 | Stskeeps | (.. and that statement came out of the blue. going drinking tonight - really sounds like a good idea) |
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| 12:15.56 | Andy80 | hi all :) |
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| 13:00.41 | lcuk3 | my god, has the internet stopped, ive never seen it so dead in here on an afternoon |
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| 13:03.14 | Stskeeps | people are out drinking? |
| 13:03.17 | Stskeeps | i know i will tonight |
| 13:03.29 | johnx_ | just came from a drink :) |
| 13:04.13 | lcuk | mmmmm drinking |
| 13:04.41 | lcuk | that sounds like a really good idea :) i think ill go out on the lash tomorrow night after i push a package somewhere |
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| 13:05.55 | johnx_ | pushing a package anywhere in particular? |
| 13:05.59 | Ave | thanks, laters |
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| 13:06.57 | lcuk | yer johnx, after a test with the people in #liqbase i will get it into extras-dev :) |
| 13:07.38 | lcuk | its very nearly done now, ive covered everything i think i need at app side, its just garnish on the server needed |
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| 13:26.30 | chrisak_ | i'm not able to spot any discussion on the via ITT search: after latest upgrade, browser right click menu is borked... cannnot open link in new window. Is this a common/known problem? |
| 13:27.10 | johnx_ | chrisak_, I'll check here |
| 13:27.30 | chrisak_ | thanks |
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| 13:28.39 | johnx_ | works fine here |
| 13:28.43 | johnx_ | is this on every page? |
| 13:29.35 | chrisak_ | so far.... odd. the top two menu items are "Play..." |
| 13:30.11 | johnx_ | "Play"? |
| 13:30.15 | johnx_ | that's not on my menu |
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| 13:30.22 | johnx_ | did you install some extension? |
| 13:31.36 | chrisak_ | nope, i've got a pretty straight forward setup.... nothing really different installed. in fact, everything else post upgrade is great |
| 13:32.53 | chrisak_ | i get that odd right click menu even with google links on default start page, ITT site, everything page so far :/ |
| 13:33.12 | johnx_ | What are the other options in the menu? |
| 13:36.33 | hrw | is there rotation x-server/kernel for diablo 36-5? |
| 13:36.43 | chrisak_ | play..., play..., copy link location, zoom (sub menu), navigation (sub menu), details, and help |
| 13:37.53 | chrisak_ | browser works perfect otherwise |
| 13:38.24 | chrisak_ | i get odd menu onliy when right clicking a link |
| 13:39.44 | jott | hrw: http://outpo.st/rotate/ (.install does not work yet) |
| 13:40.02 | johnx_ | chrisak_, so you get a normal menu when right clicking the background area of a web page? |
| 13:40.15 | chrisak_ | it appears to be |
| 13:40.52 | chrisak_ | adding bookmark, zooming, etc |
| 13:41.16 | hrw | jott: thx |
| 13:41.46 | chrisak_ | heh, i feel like a discovered a new species :) |
| 13:42.22 | johnx_ | chrisak_, and what happens when you click "Play..."? |
| 13:43.17 | chrisak_ | it tries to open the link in kmplayer |
| 13:44.00 | johnx_ | hmmm... |
| 13:44.42 | chrisak_ | the 2nd "play" tries to open link in default media player |
| 13:44.53 | johnx_ | now that's a lead :) |
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| 13:46.56 | chrisak_ | its not a critical problem, just an oddity.... i 'open in new window' a lot.. Thankfully no serious problems... i'm backpacking in asia long term and rreflashing is not rreally an option :) |
| 13:47.19 | johnx_ | if I had to guess, I'd bet it's connected to kmplayer |
| 13:47.28 | johnx_ | do you have dbus-switchboard installed as well? |
| 13:47.44 | chrisak_ | no |
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| 13:49.00 | thux | Stskeeps: now it works, can i set resolution to same as diablo use? bit too small fonts to me |
| 13:49.40 | chrisak_ | i uninstalled world tv and kmplayer... now i have 1 "play...." |
| 13:49.53 | johnx_ | thux, the resolution is the same. set the font size in settings -> appearance |
| 13:50.10 | chrisak_ | still no 'open link in new window' |
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| 13:50.26 | johnx_ | chrisak_, O_o |
| 13:50.36 | thux | johnx_: ok thanks |
| 13:50.44 | johnx_ | chrisak_, you've discovered a new species. congratulations. :P |
| 13:53.02 | chrisak_ | yay, chris-bug.... if only that was the only bug i catch on this backpacking trip :) i will try to post about this in ITT soon and see if anyone else has this problem.... thanks for helping :) |
| 13:54.09 | johnx_ | chrisak_, sure. I searched ITT a little bit, but didn't find much. I hope you have better luck than me :) |
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| 13:55.43 | hrw | jott: thx - it works :) |
| 13:55.53 | hrw | too bad that software is hardcoded to 800x480 |
| 13:56.27 | johnx_ | hrw, only hildon desktop is for the most part...and a couple other annoying apps |
| 13:56.55 | hrw | control-panel |
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| 13:57.00 | johnx_ | heh |
| 13:57.18 | johnx_ | that too. it's layout gets slightly screwed up if you even change scroll bar size |
| 13:57.29 | johnx_ | s/size/width |
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| 13:59.05 | chrisak_ | parting thought: if anyone reading is interested in rss/podcast apps.... this PenguinTV app recently appearing (extras? develop? not sure which) is really neat |
| 14:01.04 | Stskeeps | how's hildlet going? |
| 14:01.15 | Stskeeps | -> johnx |
| 14:02.39 | johnx_ | Stskeeps, one thing at a time. :P first I'll package my sawfish hacks |
| 14:02.52 | johnx_ | I want to stop thinking about those before I get into something else |
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| 14:03.14 | johnx_ | chrisak_, awesome! thanks for the heads up |
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| 14:03.43 | chrisak_ | welcome :) |
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| 14:09.02 | yaayaa | hello |
| 14:09.24 | yaayaa | is there anyone using pocketsphinx_continuous here ? |
| 14:10.53 | hrw | someone has maemo sdk and can build one thing for me? |
| 14:13.49 | inz | hrw, can do |
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| 14:14.26 | hrw | ah.. its C.. no way to declare vars in code.. |
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| 14:18.52 | hrw | inz: http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/personal-menu-0.7-xrandr.tar.bz2 - can you try to build it? |
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| 14:27.50 | dick-richardson | is it possible to configure the device to run a command after a network connection is established? |
| 14:28.00 | qwerty12 | dbus-scripts |
| 14:28.16 | woglinde | man ifup |
| 14:30.22 | aquatix | anyone else has the new claws-mail segfaulting on them? |
| 14:30.33 | aquatix | 3.6.0 shows a white window, then segfaults here |
| 14:31.04 | johnx_ | woglinde, ifup isn't used on the tablet |
| 14:31.11 | hrw | inz: does it builds at all? |
| 14:31.18 | woglinde | johny for usbnet you can use it |
| 14:31.27 | inz | hrw, it has some missing build-dependencies |
| 14:31.28 | woglinde | and he didnt say which inet connecntion |
| 14:31.45 | hrw | inz: on libxrandr-dev basically |
| 14:31.48 | johnx_ | woglinde, sorry, I just assumed |
| 14:31.59 | inz | hrw, others too, but mainly that |
| 14:32.18 | hrw | inz: I took it from garage and hacked xrandr into it |
| 14:33.30 | qwerty12 | hrw: http://pastebin.com/d466ce3af |
| 14:34.07 | hrw | thx |
| 14:34.39 | hrw | s/display_name/NULL |
| 14:36.08 | qwerty12 | Changed that, these errors still remain: http://pastebin.com/d29666b3e |
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| 14:36.35 | robsta | hi |
| 14:37.02 | inz | hrw, http://inz.fi/personal-menu_0.7-6_armel.deb |
| 14:37.04 | robsta | i can't delete files from the internal mmc on my n810, is there anything i can do? |
| 14:37.16 | hrw | gracuas |
| 14:37.50 | inz | Added a int xscreen and replaced two screens with xscreen |
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| 14:39.16 | dick-richardson | qwerty12: you're the man! |
| 14:40.09 | hrw | hm. looks like patch needs to be done in other place |
| 14:41.06 | woglinde | qwerty12 is that you code? |
| 14:41.11 | woglinde | or you only try to compile? |
| 14:41.18 | qwerty12 | woglinde: only trying to compile |
| 14:41.23 | qwerty12 | it's hrw's code |
| 14:41.29 | qwerty12 | can't code for shit :) |
| 14:41.40 | woglinde | qwerty hehe you could learn it |
| 14:41.45 | hrw | its not my code - I just hacked it a bit |
| 14:41.47 | woglinde | I learned it too |
| 14:42.17 | qwerty12 | I'm more of a modder, I usually apply tiny modifications to other people's work :) |
| 14:42.24 | dick-richardson | is the 'testing maemo extras' repository a replacement for maemo extras? |
| 14:42.54 | johnx_ | nope, it's for potentially unstable software |
| 14:43.15 | dick-richardson | so may not want it activated on a dist-upgrade |
| 14:43.30 | dick-richardson | install what I need and disable it |
| 14:44.04 | qwerty12 | wouldn't recommend an dist-upgrade on maemo in any circumstances |
| 14:44.35 | johnx_ | be very careful if you plan to do a dist-upgrade for some reason |
| 14:44.45 | dick-richardson | I got the ssu that way...after a bit of work |
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| 15:32.24 | robsta | i hear that a read-only internal mmc is a known issue, is there a workaround for that? |
| 15:32.42 | robsta | it's full an i can't delete anythin |
| 15:33.02 | aquatix | this might be because it's corrupted |
| 15:33.09 | aquatix | try checking it |
| 15:33.34 | robtaylor | fsck.vfat |
| 15:33.54 | RST38h | umgh |
| 15:34.07 | robsta | oh, there's something "Read 32 bytes at 2022019072:Input/output error" |
| 15:34.47 | robtaylor | robsta: hmm, fraid your mmc card may be foobared |
| 15:34.47 | woglinde | hm |
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| 15:35.05 | woglinde | yes seems so |
| 15:35.19 | robsta | robtaylor: awesome, after like switching on like 10 times |
| 15:35.26 | woglinde | maybe repartition and badblock cans work |
| 15:35.39 | qwerty12 | robsta: Is it an N810 and are you using 48Mhz sd speed kernel? |
| 15:35.53 | robsta | n810, latest software |
| 15:36.03 | lcuk | more than likely its full partition and corrupt table thats hit |
| 15:36.16 | lcuk | doesnt write onto his mmc2 anymore |
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| 15:36.24 | RST38h | lcuk: why? |
| 15:36.26 | qwerty12 | always does. I have an N800 ;) |
| 15:36.45 | lcuk | the 810 shipped with an incorrectly formatted partition if i remember rightly |
| 15:37.02 | RST38h | well, you can fix that by reformatting |
| 15:37.05 | lcuk | it lies about total sectors so corrupts itself when it gets full |
| 15:37.21 | bef0rd | robsta, as lcuk said, I had to repartition it too, so, backup your data, delete the partition and create it again |
| 15:37.31 | lcuk | yer can do, but quite simply cant be arsed backing up and reformatting |
| 15:37.41 | lcuk | its just maps :) |
| 15:37.57 | RST38h | lcuk: Oh come on, you can redownload these maps and the UK maps are not very large anyway |
| 15:37.59 | lcuk | will invest time on the problem when it occurs, its enough to know it exists |
| 15:38.12 | RST38h | lcuk: And the rest you can easily copy to the external card |
| 15:38.20 | lcuk | no i cant |
| 15:38.25 | RST38h | why? |
| 15:38.26 | lcuk | external card==1gb |
| 15:38.28 | woglinde | hehe |
| 15:38.38 | woglinde | good to know is that there is solution |
| 15:38.39 | robsta | could anyone help me out with repartitioning quickly? not done that in a long time |
| 15:38.42 | RST38h | lcuk: Isn't it a reaosn enough to buy a new external card? |
| 15:38.47 | qwerty12 | ^ |
| 15:38.55 | Jaffa | *Some* N810s shipped with a broken partition table. |
| 15:39.03 | lcuk | no, my 810 works perfectly and i develop happily on it - why rock the boat |
| 15:39.22 | lcuk | im not gonna fuck around and waste time with it when i have more important things to do |
| 15:39.26 | RST38h | Jaffa: ...although given the amount of reports, it is quite possible that "some"=="all" in marketing speech |
| 15:39.50 | qwerty12 | lcuk: some say that using the built in file manager to reformat is enough |
| 15:39.51 | Jaffa | Perhaps. One would hope that it's fixed *now* |
| 15:39.56 | lcuk | and besides, with my console foo i'll make the problem worse ;) |
| 15:40.01 | RST38h | Anybody tried BOS Wars? Is it worth trying? |
| 15:40.20 | RST38h | lcuk: you can check if your mmc2 is in danger by checking its size |
| 15:40.27 | lcuk | qwerty12, possibly, but "if it aint broke (properly), then dont try to fix it" |
| 15:40.43 | qwerty12 | But if you aint checked it, how do you know it is broke :P |
| 15:40.44 | lcuk | i know RST38h and im happy that the static content on it isnt gonna grow |
| 15:41.04 | lcuk | well my maps still work and theres free space on it, chill :) |
| 15:41.11 | qwerty12 | And if you can't trust a nokia program, what can you trust?... |
| 15:41.16 | lcuk | is happy |
| 15:41.19 | qwerty12 | :) |
| 15:41.19 | woglinde | hihi |
| 15:41.23 | RST38h | qwerty: Nokia hardware? |
| 15:41.48 | RST38h | ~curse Nokia PC Suite just because any reason is enough to curse this abomination |
| 15:41.49 | infobot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, Nokia PC Suite just because any reason is enough to curse this abomination ! |
| 15:41.58 | qwerty12 | RST38h: True, I do have to say, the build quality on my N800 is brilliant |
| 15:43.08 | RST38h | actually, 810s are quite shoddily made |
| 15:43.33 | RST38h | the casing is somewhat assymetric and the silvery paint tends to wear off |
| 15:43.44 | RST38h | + front panel is a scratch magnet |
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| 15:49.12 | robsta | ok, after repairing rw mounting work |
| 15:49.12 | robsta | s |
| 15:51.08 | robsta | what would i use to repartition? |
| 15:51.33 | robsta | cfdisk, fdisk not found |
| 15:52.18 | woglinde | try to install them? |
| 15:52.52 | qwerty12 | sfdisk... |
| 15:53.09 | johnx_ | just find cfdisk |
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| 15:53.26 | johnx_ | hang on, I'll dig it up |
| 15:53.29 | qwerty12 | cfdisk is in the deblet repo iirc |
| 15:53.29 | RST38h | mkfs |
| 15:53.34 | johnx_ | there's no good reason to use sfdisk |
| 15:53.38 | robsta | sfdisk is there |
| 15:53.40 | RST38h | mkfs repairs partitions well |
| 15:53.49 | johnx_ | RST38h, uhm, what? |
| 15:53.55 | qwerty12 | I know. sfdisk is disgusting but it's shipped with tablet. |
| 15:53.57 | RST38h | johnx: shshsh ;) |
| 15:54.18 | johnx_ | :P can't tell when you're joking |
| 15:55.41 | qwerty12 | Is there any preferred method to "suspend" a compile? |
| 15:55.59 | summatusmentis | ctrl+c |
| 15:56.03 | summatusmentis | ? |
| 15:56.09 | robsta | thanks guys |
| 15:56.13 | qwerty12 | Not close, pause. I guess I could ctrl + z |
| 15:56.22 | robsta | looks like everything's back on track |
| 15:56.27 | summatusmentis | ctrl+z will just background it won't it? |
| 15:56.31 | summatusmentis | or am I confused |
| 15:56.41 | RST38h | yes, usually |
| 15:56.46 | qwerty12 | Hmm, probably does background it. |
| 15:57.02 | summatusmentis | qwerty12: ctrl+c will stop it, and then you can just rerun the make command, and it should pick up from where it left off |
| 15:57.03 | qwerty12 | is confused. I'll just use htop or something. |
| 15:57.21 | qwerty12 | summatusmentis: ah, ok, thanks |
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| 15:57.49 | summatusmentis | _should_ :) That's how it works for kernel compiles, I assume it's the same for all else |
| 15:58.15 | qwerty12 | hopes it's same for webkit, I don't have enough hours in day for that :) |
| 15:58.35 | qwerty12 | stupid pos fails on linking |
| 15:58.37 | summatusmentis | I assume it is, it's just make |
| 15:59.12 | summatusmentis | it'll re-build everything if you change parts of the source that have already been built, fyi |
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| 16:13.53 | cyrus___ | Is there anyway to implement the followign in maemo: SSH in as a regular user and then su to root (where you have to know the root password) |
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| 16:15.51 | Khertan_n810 | Hi ! |
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| 16:20.11 | Jaffa | cyrus___: is there *any* way? yes; set a root password, disable root ssh logins, disable gainroot, enable /etc/sudoers for the commands you want. |
| 16:20.16 | Jaffa | Same as any other Linux distro. |
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| 16:22.06 | Khertan_n810 | don t understand why ui seems to be frozen when i launch 250 python thread doing a socket connection |
| 16:23.14 | moontiger | khertan do u think the whole python engine is single threaded? |
| 16:23.50 | moontiger | or are the sockets blocking? |
| 16:23.54 | rm_you | GeneralAntilles: lolz |
| 16:24.02 | rm_you | GeneralAntilles: that would be very useful, actually |
| 16:24.12 | rm_you | and probably not especially difficult |
| 16:24.18 | Khertan_n810 | moontiger ... i think the cpu is burning while doing that |
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| 16:24.42 | moontiger | hmmmmmmmm u think thats it? |
| 16:26.04 | Khertan_n810 | yep |
| 16:26.45 | moontiger | why 250 threads btw? |
| 16:27.28 | crashanddie | ~help |
| 16:27.45 | Khertan_n810 | because i made some tests and i ve 250 event in the my calendar database |
| 16:27.53 | cyrus___ | Jaffa - hmm...might not be following. if I setup sudoers to run su, isn't it going to ask for the users password, not the root password when running that command |
| 16:27.54 | Khertan_n810 | +s |
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| 16:28.05 | cyrus___ | Jaffa - I want it to ask for the root password |
| 16:28.13 | moontiger | eeesh ... a thread per event?? |
| 16:28.40 | Khertan_n810 | yep just a test |
| 16:28.51 | moontiger | heh cool :) |
| 16:29.00 | crashanddie | ~lart Manuel |
| 16:29.00 | infobot | whacks Manuel with a giant beaver's tail |
| 16:29.02 | Jaffa | cyrus___: hmm, I thought there was an option for that in sudoers, if not - install su ;-) |
| 16:29.09 | Khertan_n810 | to see how tablet manage that |
| 16:29.23 | moontiger | and apparently it doesnt |
| 16:29.29 | cyrus___ | Jaffa - there is su intalled, but if I run su - it returns - applet requires root privileges |
| 16:29.31 | moontiger | :/ |
| 16:30.18 | moontiger | maybe thread pooling is a better idea :) |
| 16:31.19 | moontiger | yawns and stretches |
| 16:32.14 | Jaffa | cyrus___: it's because it's part of busybox. rename it to su.real, create a small shell script which is chmod u+s, called 'su' which execs su.real |
| 16:33.16 | moontiger | thinks about getting up |
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| 16:56.26 | lcuk | puts 10p in the machine |
| 16:57.27 | johnx_ | hey Havi |
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| 17:00.49 | Havi | hi johnx |
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| 17:01.46 | pumpkin_ | is it possible to do usb master mode on the n800? |
| 17:02.01 | qwerty12 | usb host mode? certainly |
| 17:02.08 | pumpkin_ | whoops, yes, sorry |
| 17:02.24 | pumpkin_ | is there something special I need to do in software, or do I just need to find a suitable cable |
| 17:02.26 | sneakret | You can even make it charge itself via USB. ;) |
| 17:02.32 | pumpkin_ | o.O |
| 17:03.17 | johnx_ | pumpkin_, there are a couple pieces of software that can set the USB mode |
| 17:04.36 | pumpkin_ | cool, I just googled and found some info |
| 17:04.41 | pumpkin_ | thanks :) |
| 17:04.46 | sneakret | google > irc |
| 17:04.48 | sneakret | :) |
| 17:04.56 | pumpkin_ | I should've done it first |
| 17:05.04 | pumpkin_ | irc > google, but one should check the latter first :P |
| 17:05.05 | sneakret | I've said that many times. :) |
| 17:05.25 | sneakret | (said I should've googled first) |
| 17:05.29 | johnx_ | pumpkin_, the slightly harder part is finding a cable to hook everything up |
| 17:05.32 | sneakret | and yeah, I have to agree. :) |
| 17:05.35 | sneakret | irc > google |
| 17:05.52 | pumpkin_ | johnx_: yeah, I'd imagine |
| 17:06.14 | sneakret | You can just use a female->female adapter with the stock cable. |
| 17:06.57 | sneakret | http://www.usbfirewire.com/Parts/rr-usb-023-afafrbig.jpg |
| 17:07.26 | pumpkin_ | cool, thanks |
| 17:07.35 | sneakret | http://www.usbfirewire.com/uconverters.html |
| 17:07.40 | sneakret | or wherever |
| 17:07.52 | pumpkin_ | makes sense, thanks a lot! |
| 17:08.39 | sneakret | You're welcmoe. |
| 17:08.40 | sneakret | ome |
| 17:08.53 | sneakret | I need a good task management tool. :( |
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| 17:11.42 | lcuk | heh, Karoliina Salminen posted a video from her trip to the summit, about the only thing in it relating to n8x0s are clips from liqbase :D |
| 17:11.48 | lcuk | http://vimeo.com/1790444?pg=embed&sec=1790444 |
| 17:14.10 | Stskeeps | watches |
| 17:15.27 | Stskeeps | karoliina should do intro music like in XP, .. for maemo |
| 17:15.28 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 17:16.06 | lcuk | its quite mello stuff, brought back a lot of great memories |
| 17:17.08 | Stskeeps | 's gf just left 15 mins ago for 6 months internship in berlin :P |
| 17:17.19 | johnx_ | oh noes! |
| 17:17.20 | lcuk | where are you? |
| 17:17.38 | Stskeeps | well, in denmark, so not -that- far :P |
| 17:17.40 | Stskeeps | but still |
| 17:17.46 | Stskeeps | .. more development time, i guess :P |
| 17:17.48 | johnx_ | that sucks Stskeeps, but we promise to keep you company |
| 17:17.50 | Stskeeps | .. more cooking |
| 17:17.57 | Stskeeps | ... more pizza! |
| 17:18.12 | lcuk | johnx_, sod Stskeeps; theres a lonely girl in berlin - im gettin a ticket :P ;) |
| 17:18.22 | Stskeeps | hehe |
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| 17:18.36 | johnx_ | bah, it's only a 625km drive. easy, easy |
| 17:18.44 | johnx_ | I'd visit every weekend if I were you :) |
| 17:18.48 | Stskeeps | no car ;) |
| 17:18.50 | lcuk | Stskeeps, whats she had to go that far for? |
| 17:19.03 | Stskeeps | lcuk: international department of danish company |
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| 17:19.28 | Stskeeps | trainee which may lead to junior consulantship |
| 17:19.35 | rm_you | hrm, someone recall how to turn on bluetooth visibility of a device in debian? |
| 17:19.40 | johnx_ | Stskeeps, cars are cheap. look at the one I got for $500! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v119/JohnX/compdscn2966.jpg |
| 17:19.47 | rm_you | johnx_: do you recall? |
| 17:19.58 | qwerty12 | johnx_, I'll give you £250 for it! |
| 17:19.58 | Stskeeps | johnx_: no driving license ;) |
| 17:20.08 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps, who needs a license :P |
| 17:20.14 | lcuk | yes Stskeeps, careers, mmmnmmm |
| 17:20.20 | johnx_ | mmm...usually there's an applet in the GUI :) |
| 17:20.29 | johnx_ | rm_you, ^ |
| 17:20.32 | rm_you | lol john, i loved that car :P |
| 17:21.29 | dick-richardson | I have dbus-scripts configured and working, but need some help figuring out my problem w/ssh. I create a local tunnel (for my proxy) and a remote tunnel (for ease of typing and cases of theft), but the remote tunnel isn't working |
| 17:21.29 | rm_you | that's the one that looked like a penguin, yes? :P |
| 17:21.29 | johnx_ | rm_you, yup |
| 17:21.29 | rm_you | ^_^ |
| 17:21.29 | johnx_ | qwerty12, sorry, someone already beat you to it a while ago |
| 17:21.30 | rm_you | fails at finding the bluetooth control applet |
| 17:21.45 | johnx_ | rm_you, run bluetooth-applet |
| 17:21.46 | qwerty12 | cries after hearing that news from johnx_ :( |
| 17:22.00 | Stskeeps | gah. "boot in 5 seconds" threads on iTT |
| 17:22.04 | Stskeeps | and people asking about it for deblet too |
| 17:22.05 | Stskeeps | lovely |
| 17:22.20 | johnx_ | qwerty12, did you look at it? Why do you want a car like that? |
| 17:22.28 | rm_you | oh. |
| 17:22.31 | rm_you | there it was >_> |
| 17:22.41 | johnx_ | Stskeeps, now you know why I stopped talking on the forums for the most part... |
| 17:23.10 | qwerty12 | johnx_, if I smash it up when speeding, no worries :P. Actually, I was at a car auction and saw a old old austin maestro go for £20 |
| 17:23.17 | Stskeeps | johnx_: the debian subforum is (thank god) semi-sane atleast :P |
| 17:23.27 | liri | there was a messeging app (including voice) which supported several protocols (gtalk, icq, msn) and was available for the tablet but it wasn't gizmo5 I think...was it that or something else? |
| 17:23.37 | Stskeeps | johnx_: but i do want to try experiments like preload and finit-alt though |
| 17:23.48 | johnx_ | liri, pidgin? |
| 17:24.11 | johnx_ | qwerty12, that car had some...issues |
| 17:24.47 | qwerty12 | heh |
| 17:24.54 | liri | I thought it was something else, kinda commercial like gizmo5 |
| 17:25.02 | Stskeeps | rm_you: you love doing control panel applets btw for maemo? |
| 17:25.07 | lcuk | the car didnt have issues, it knew it wasnted to die, you wouldnt let it though |
| 17:25.25 | rm_you | Stskeeps: wouldn't say "love", it's just what I have experience with now >_> |
| 17:25.42 | johnx_ | lcuk, nah, just some of the things unrelated to it being a car didn't quite work perfectly |
| 17:25.43 | rm_you | lcuk: still want pictures of your wooden thing >_< |
| 17:25.59 | johnx_ | rm_you, he put them up before. you missed them :P |
| 17:26.05 | liri | there's that telepathy haze or whatever app that's supposed to integrate with the phone's contacts etc, isn't it? |
| 17:26.06 | rm_you | damnit! >_< |
| 17:26.06 | Stskeeps | rm_you: GA's pushing a bit getting into community versions of maemo or something.. and one thing would be for example a control panel for boot items like i have in mine |
| 17:26.20 | rm_you | Stskeeps: yeah he pinged me about it earlier |
| 17:26.21 | johnx_ | liri, rtcomm-beta? |
| 17:26.29 | rm_you | I'd prolly be up for that |
| 17:26.42 | lcuk | ffs rm_you i gave you one |
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| 17:27.01 | rm_you | I was planning to work on the route/tile server for vector maps in Maemo Mapper when I actually got some free time... |
| 17:27.05 | Stskeeps | would really love some standarization of bootmenu personally |
| 17:27.10 | johnx_ | the new rm_you: now with more fail |
| 17:27.10 | rm_you | but that would probably also be very useful |
| 17:27.14 | rm_you | lol |
| 17:27.21 | rm_you | lcuk: link me again :P |
| 17:27.27 | rm_you | i only show up here like once every 3 days |
| 17:27.35 | rm_you | so they scroll off if i've left already |
| 17:28.07 | johnx_ | rm_you, grep lcuk .xchat/xchatlogs/Freenode-#maemo.log | grep -i jpg |
| 17:28.14 | liri | johnx_: I think that's the one yeah... that's not released already? |
| 17:28.22 | Stskeeps | fantastic, one beer and i feel tipsy already |
| 17:28.29 | Stskeeps | this is going to be a cheap evening of partyig |
| 17:29.08 | johnx_ | Stskeeps, the best kind |
| 17:29.20 | johnx_ | rm_you, over here :P http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7308/810crateinkx8.jpg |
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| 17:29.42 | Stskeeps | had some pills at one point, made 4x more drunker. that saved my budget as a student :P |
| 17:29.44 | lcuk | http://maemo-hackers.org/wiki/MaemoUrls |
| 17:29.45 | Stskeeps | +me |
| 17:29.59 | lcuk | rm_you, to prove it, look at the top imageshack image |
| 17:31.01 | rm_you | yeah yeah i see it now :P |
| 17:31.02 | rm_you | sweet |
| 17:31.11 | lcuk | hits you round the head with it |
| 17:31.13 | rm_you | anyway, really do gotta run now |
| 17:31.33 | lcuk | cya later - and try not to fall asleep in the bogs tongiht |
| 17:31.38 | rm_you | lol |
| 17:31.53 | rm_you | wait... did hrw di a personalmenu that supports rotation display? |
| 17:32.11 | rm_you | just see "http://blog.haerwu.biz/tmp/personal-menu-0.7-xrandr.tar.bz2" in the links |
| 17:32.39 | johnx_ | rm_you, uhm, maybe. not sure |
| 17:32.50 | johnx_ | rm_you, now go, you'll be late for class :P |
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| 17:33.05 | woglinde | hi gnuton |
| 17:33.13 | GNUton | hi |
| 17:33.20 | inz | lcuk, had I made such page; I had no memory of such thing ;) |
| 17:33.25 | GNUton | woglinde: Hi bot |
| 17:33.41 | lcuk | inz? |
| 17:33.51 | lcuk | is that page yours? |
| 17:33.56 | inz | yes |
| 17:34.06 | woglinde | lol |
| 17:34.11 | lcuk | ahhhahh most useful bit of hackery :) |
| 17:34.16 | woglinde | nice try |
| 17:34.20 | inz | See the bottom right |
| 17:34.26 | woglinde | but turing is not enough |
| 17:35.04 | lcuk | ahhh inz, yes white background with white text stands out so well :D i was wondering why i never notieced it before ;) |
| 17:35.45 | lcuk | you oculd actually make it easier to see by having it visible on summer solstice morning when connected at gps coordinates -24.005982843, 2340938 and holding aloft a cat to the moongods |
| 17:36.23 | lcuk | anyway :) thank you ive been pulling it up for a few months now |
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| 17:37.16 | inz | lcuk, it's not my fault, it's trac default ;) |
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| 17:54.56 | liri | does anyone have a gizmo account? I'd like to try this thing on the n810 |
| 17:55.54 | qwerty12 | curses as I make a window "100% transparent" |
| 17:59.09 | Sargun_Screen | bah, how do I make the frackin on screen keyboard show up |
| 18:00.26 | johnx_ | Sargun_Screen, go to control panel, set it so the big keyboard always comes up |
| 18:00.47 | Sargun_Screen | I dont always want it to come up though |
| 18:02.20 | lcuk | Sargun_Screen, go into control panel and put a tick inside "have cake" and another inside "eat it too" |
| 18:02.32 | johnx_ | lcuk++ |
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| 18:10.05 | RST38h | back |
| 18:11.40 | hrw | rm_you: no - it was just ugly hack which does not work |
| 18:12.11 | johnx_ | hrw, you've seen rm_you's adv backlight with rotation control, right? |
| 18:12.12 | rm_you | lol |
| 18:12.22 | hrw | johnx_: I use it |
| 18:12.27 | johnx_ | rm_you, so much for "have to leave right now" :P |
| 18:12.31 | rm_you | i did |
| 18:12.35 | rm_you | and then i came back |
| 18:12.41 | rm_you | JUST got back |
| 18:12.45 | rm_you | to hear xchat beep at me :P |
| 18:12.46 | johnx_ | that was fast |
| 18:12.52 | rm_you | i just had to eat / shower :P |
| 18:12.59 | rm_you | no more classes today |
| 18:13.10 | johnx_ | saves time when you do those at the same time I guess... |
| 18:13.35 | rm_you | going to the shooting range, then dinner with GF possibly, then dunno :P |
| 18:14.52 | johnx_ | then combine them all! dinner at the shooting range with your girlfriend |
| 18:14.55 | johnx_ | multitask! |
| 18:15.27 | rm_you | lol |
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| 18:34.50 | GeneralAntilles | rm_you, quite easy, in fact, especially with Stskeeeps new .item system. |
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| 18:38.07 | rm_you | hrm ok will look in a bit |
| 18:38.12 | rm_you | gotta run for real now :P |
| 18:39.11 | johnx_ | rm_you's always on the run |
| 18:39.30 | rm_you | runs |
| 18:39.49 | GAN800 | fires after him. |
| 18:41.37 | Havi | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.58 | Havi | rm_you: you shot your girlfriend at the shooting range and then had her for dinner?! |
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| 18:42.15 | Havi | Good God |
| 18:47.33 | rm_you | lol |
| 18:47.35 | rm_you | ACK, late |
| 18:47.36 | rm_you | runs |
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| 18:58.47 | inherited | hey, is there a java compiler for the n810 yet? |
| 18:59.36 | johnx_ | There's jalimo: http://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Main_Page |
| 19:01.02 | RST38h | compiler or runtime? |
| 19:05.15 | Jaffa | Both |
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| 19:39.07 | Savago | Hello, friends. |
| 19:39.51 | Savago | I'm trying to port a C library to maemo, but I'm getting this error when I try to link a test app with this library: "invalid string offset 138597000 >= 3250 for |
| 19:39.51 | Savago | section `.dynstr'" |
| 19:40.36 | Savago | Does library compilation requires special flags/parameters? I only did "../configure; make; make install" in diablo ARMEL. |
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| 19:58.26 | GNUton | Mek: ping |
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| 19:58.35 | pupnik810 | evening |
| 19:58.37 | GNUton | jott: ping |
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| 20:00.41 | pupnik810 | hrmph |
| 20:00.55 | jott | hello GNUton |
| 20:00.58 | jott | hello pupnik810 |
| 20:00.59 | pupnik810 | whats new? |
| 20:01.30 | pupnik810 | did you have fun at the summit? |
| 20:01.48 | jott | yeah indeed. next time you really have to come :) |
| 20:02.16 | GNUton | jott: Are there news about the CMake bug? |
| 20:03.24 | pupnik810 | will comply |
| 20:03.36 | jott | GNUton: hmm no i don't think so. we will have to contact the people again to get this moving. |
| 20:04.24 | GNUton | jott: are you using the latest version of scratchbox? (1.10.11) |
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| 20:05.36 | pupnik810 | it is too cold to type tonight |
| 20:05.43 | pupnik810 | :/ |
| 20:05.52 | jott | pupnik810: are you outside? :O |
| 20:06.13 | pupnik810 | jes |
| 20:06.23 | GNUton | pupnik810: where are u? |
| 20:06.25 | pupnik810 | street |
| 20:06.36 | jott | GNUton: hmm no .10 currently |
| 20:06.47 | GNUton | ok |
| 20:07.02 | pupnik810 | yaay for the N810 wifi sensitivity |
| 20:07.10 | jott | upgrades :) |
| 20:07.19 | jott | pupnik810: war-walking? :) |
| 20:07.20 | GNUton | jott: me too :) |
| 20:08.02 | jott | GNUton: any plans for the 4.5 transition? |
| 20:08.55 | pupnik810 | not exactly - have permission to use wlan |
| 20:09.22 | pupnik810 | any fcc leaks on n9x0? |
| 20:09.31 | GNUton | jott: I started to prepare the packages some days ago... but there are always something to fix.. |
| 20:09.47 | GNUton | and It doesn't finished to compile yet. |
| 20:10.23 | jott | GNUton: hehe. did you start to port some of the changes or just plain upstream version? |
| 20:10.24 | GNUton | I compile Qt only in the night.. because I've only a machine... |
| 20:10.41 | pupnik810 | brr.. gtg - have a nice night :) |
| 20:10.45 | GNUton | jott: something |
| 20:11.01 | lpotter | GNUton: you shoud try qtextended on a single machine... |
| 20:11.20 | jott | actually qt extended compiled quite fast here :) |
| 20:11.27 | GNUton | hey lpotter! :) |
| 20:11.39 | lpotter | well, qtextended does use qbuild! |
| 20:12.01 | lpotter | hey GNUton |
| 20:12.30 | jott | lpotter: ah right i need to file a bug, as calling qbuild directly does not respect "-j" parameter :/ |
| 20:12.40 | lpotter | GNUton: do you have trouble linking gmake in scratchbox? when compiling for x86 target? |
| 20:13.01 | lpotter | jott: it does, but it also has another parameter involved |
| 20:13.14 | jott | lpotter: ooh, which one? :) |
| 20:13.20 | jott | (make -j8 worked) |
| 20:13.21 | lpotter | jott: did you see I released the toolchain we use for n810? |
| 20:13.33 | jott | yer. not tested yet. it works fine with mine now ;) |
| 20:14.41 | lpotter | i need to try scratchbox2/SDK+ and start pushing that |
| 20:14.42 | GNUton | lpotter: no I don't have any trouble linking gmake.. |
| 20:14.45 | jott | btw lpotter, is there a list of special widgets introduced in qt extended (like the QSmoothList) |
| 20:15.09 | jott | (or better special widgets not in base qt) |
| 20:15.20 | lpotter | GNUton: odd. I had to edit mkpecs and use host-gcc and host-g++ as the native one failed linking qmake |
| 20:15.54 | lpotter | jott: in the docs. dont know if there is a list of whats new though |
| 20:16.18 | lpotter | I know of QCollective (telepathy) and QWhereabouts (gps) |
| 20:16.31 | lpotter | QtopiaWhereabouts I think |
| 20:16.39 | lpotter | and Qtoia COllective |
| 20:16.45 | lpotter | blah.. |
| 20:17.03 | jott | would really be interesting to see/use them on qt/x11 |
| 20:17.53 | lpotter | agreed |
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| 20:18.40 | GNUton | Today I had a discussion with Luciano Wolf about the porting of QtExtended in maemo... |
| 20:19.00 | lpotter | GNUton: its already ported.. for years now. :) |
| 20:19.18 | lpotter | wll.. without x11 that is |
| 20:19.54 | lpotter | youcan compile qtextended for x11... you have to edit a file to get the configure argument. its unmaintained really |
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| 20:20.12 | GNUton | that's great.. |
| 20:20.17 | lpotter | I keep pushing for qtextended/x11 |
| 20:20.47 | lpotter | but it needs a lot of work to make run good. its slow as its not optimized and qt/x11 is slow anyway |
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| 20:21.56 | jott | lpotter: yeah it would be good to have some separation between low-level qt extended functions and the widgets and different iterview stuff. |
| 20:22.16 | jott | this way qt extended stuff could also run on qt/wince ;> |
| 20:22.39 | lpotter | bah! who uses wince? ;) |
| 20:22.42 | jott | but more importantly, it could be used on qt/x11 based embedded devices ;) |
| 20:22.44 | GNUton | :) |
| 20:22.51 | jott | lpotter: marketing folks :P |
| 20:23.06 | lpotter | true |
| 20:23.22 | woglinde | *g* |
| 20:24.03 | Jaffa | watches _Recount_ - good so far ('bout the 2000 US election fsck up) |
| 20:24.28 | woglinde | wasn there one device which runs qtopia/x11? |
| 20:24.33 | woglinde | *ducks and hide* |
| 20:24.48 | jott | heh :) |
| 20:25.17 | GNUton | :D |
| 20:26.03 | lpotter | no. there is no device running qtopia.x11 |
| 20:26.28 | woglinde | hm only some apps |
| 20:26.29 | lpotter | what openmoko is doing is not qtopia/x11 |
| 20:26.33 | lpotter | ya |
| 20:27.05 | woglinde | but with zeckes git dir you theoretical could do it |
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| 20:27.09 | lpotter | we actually 'ported' qtopai to x11 for a demo on 770 |
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| 20:29.06 | RST38h | is maemo.org downloads dead? can't even create a new project =( |
| 20:29.24 | RST38h | moo jaffa, jott, gnuton, handful |
| 20:29.37 | handful | RST38h: hail! :) |
| 20:30.37 | RST38h | ~curse 770 that runs maemo.org |
| 20:30.38 | infobot | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, 770 that runs maemo.org ! |
| 20:30.44 | jott | RST38h: woo! |
| 20:31.23 | GNUton | RST38h: Hola! |
| 20:32.16 | RST38h | Whoever wanted EMUTools on Maemo (qwerty?) the package is now available at http://fms.komkon.org/EMUL8/ . Coming to Extras shortly. |
| 20:32.49 | jott | lpotter: still it would be really nice to just do something like QT += extendedgui or so to make use of QSmoothList etc. :) |
| 20:33.29 | lpotter | agreed |
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| 20:34.40 | jott | lpotter: go! whip you minions! :D |
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| 20:34.53 | jott | your |
| 20:35.37 | jott | RST38h: so you are working on a snes emu now? ;) |
| 20:37.13 | RST38h | jott: shush. |
| 20:37.42 | RST38h | there is no need to come to such quick conclusions =) |
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| 20:51.42 | vlad_ | is there an ext2 kernel module for the latest 4.1.1 kernel? (rather, the oprofile-enabled kernel, I guess) |
| 20:53.43 | vlad_ | oh, nvm, I just didn't have kernel-diablo-modules installed |
| 20:53.50 | Jaffa | heh |
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| 20:59.47 | vlad_ | now to find mkfs.ext2 |
| 21:00.00 | vlad_ | (and/or a mini-sd to sd adapter) |
| 21:01.41 | derf | It worked just fine for me running it on a PC over USB. |
| 21:01.58 | vlad_ | oh, that's not a bad idea |
| 21:01.59 | derf | It's still just a block device. |
| 21:02.46 | vlad_ | I just copied over mkfs.ext2 + libs from a debian armel setup I have for my beagleboard, so all's good |
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| 21:22.43 | ion_cu_vaca | hi |
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| 21:24.53 | cyrus__ | Is there an application for maemo that lets you connect to a running Xserver (XDM, GDM, etc0 |
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| 21:27.06 | RST38h | cyrus: export DISPLAY=hostname:serverid |
| 21:28.25 | cyrus__ | RST38h - ok....and what does that accomplish for me |
| 21:28.54 | RST38h | RTFM |
| 21:28.58 | cyrus__ | RST38h - I want to be able to login to another machine that is running GDM |
| 21:29.17 | cyrus__ | I was being a little sarcastic. Basically saying, what you wrote above doesn't do what I want |
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| 21:29.37 | cyrus__ | so I set the DISPLAY to another machine running an Xserver, meaning I can launch applications on that desktop. Not what I want |
| 21:30.03 | RST38h | Well you have to tell the other machine running GDM to run it at your tablet's X11 |
| 21:30.20 | RST38h | in other words you have to use the above line on the other machine |
| 21:31.34 | cyrus__ | i am sure that is something that might work...but still not what I am looking for. |
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| 21:34.20 | RST38h | Anybody knows how I can clean unused locales from OS2008? |
| 21:34.54 | woglinde | *g* |
| 21:35.32 | woglinde | you could try to port localepurge from debian |
| 21:36.03 | RST38h | can I just rm -rf though? |
| 21:36.34 | woglinde | sure |
| 21:38.33 | RST38h | KILL! KILL! DESTROY! |
| 21:40.34 | RST38h | Hungary and Italy just went into ashes |
| 21:40.55 | RST38h | Japan and Korea |
| 21:41.09 | RST38h | Ah, now it is turn for the little Baltic republics... |
| 21:41.45 | RST38h | Norway, a few weird countries I do not know, and Poland |
| 21:43.47 | mgedmin | hey, keep your filthy hands off the Baltics |
| 21:44.13 | mgedmin | they don't even have supported locales in the OS2008 image |
| 21:46.31 | Jaffa | Our biggest client at the moment is in the Baltics. We love the Baltics :-) |
| 21:47.30 | RST38h | mgedmin: too late |
| 21:47.52 | RST38h | Apparently some apps do supply at least the lt translations |
| 21:49.04 | mgedmin | xchat supplies a lot of translations |
| 21:49.07 | mgedmin | in separate packages |
| 21:49.19 | mgedmin | which kinda DOSes the app installer list |
| 21:51.02 | RST38h | Freed ~18MB |
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| 21:57.53 | RST38h | mgedmin: it may be worth it to create a category for these, something like user/translations |
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| 21:58.24 | mgedmin | I'm thinking that the App Installer should know about plugins/extensions |
| 21:58.51 | mgedmin | so if you have a package Foo (Canola, Gajim, XChat), it would show a list of extension packages for it in a subtree, collapsed by default |
| 21:59.10 | RST38h | is there a notion of extensions to a package in debian? |
| 21:59.21 | mgedmin | maybe it's possible to hack this up by using package names (if you have foo and foo-x, foo-y, foo-z, then the latter ones are shown in a subtree) |
| 21:59.35 | mgedmin | and if not, we may need a custom field in debian/control |
| 21:59.37 | RST38h | yea that is definitely possible albeit non standard |
| 21:59.41 | mgedmin | X-Extends: mainpackage |
| 21:59.53 | RST38h | would prefer package name extensions |
| 21:59.56 | GeneralAntilles | The Maemo Packaging Policy has information on what to do with translations. :) |
| 22:00.04 | RST38h | it is less of a hack than extra fields |
| 22:00.21 | mgedmin | heh, my view is completely opposite |
| 22:00.30 | mgedmin | I'd prefer the package-name-based solution, even if I think it is a hack |
| 22:00.50 | mgedmin | the app installer is open source (yay), and it's been on my to-do list for quite a while to try and prototype this |
| 22:00.54 | RST38h | yes, but this is the same as I said |
| 22:00.55 | Jaffa | mgedmin: agreed; or 'Section: user/foo/translations' - which is only shown if 'foo' is installed. |
| 22:01.24 | RST38h | i.e. no custom fields, use names only because this way it is compatible with traditional debian packaging |
| 22:01.30 | Jaffa | That seems most consistent with what's already done |
| 22:02.20 | RST38h | somebody put Crawl into Extras. I wonder if it works well... |
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| 22:09.37 | RST38h | hmm both BOSWars and FreeCiv crash |
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| 22:15.33 | Jaffa | wonders whether to go to bed or watch the Palin/Biden debate |
| 22:16.02 | GeneralAntilles | Go to bed. |
| 22:16.33 | GeneralAntilles | We're completely screwed either way, so it doesn't matter in the slightest. |
| 22:16.49 | Jaffa | Not worth it, even for the humour value? |
| 22:16.56 | RST38h | Jaffa: there wasn't blood, ignore it |
| 22:17.24 | RST38h | kinda expected Biden to maul the woman but the guy was very retrained |
| 22:17.32 | mavhc | did you know palin can only see russia from her house because she believes the earth is flat |
| 22:17.34 | RST38h | restrained |
| 22:17.48 | woglinde | *g* |
| 22:17.59 | Jaffa | I don't get to cast a vote, but they did a good job of lowering expectations of her performance |
| 22:18.07 | woglinde | seems palin will be a new chuck norris |
| 22:18.48 | mavhc | for fun divide the arguments presented into ones used by primary school kids and ones by secondary school kids |
| 22:18.55 | Jaffa | heh |
| 22:18.56 | GeneralAntilles | I wish the debates were deathmatches where we got to the kill the winner anyway. |
| 22:18.59 | RST38h | oh well, Obama it is then. Whoever wins, he has got his work cut out for him... |
| 22:19.37 | Jaffa | Oh God. "Can I call you Joe?" |
| 22:19.49 | Jaffa | and blowing a kiss at the audience. |
| 22:19.51 | RST38h | GAN: Actually, if Biden reduced the woman to a blubbering incoherent idiot, I would be satisfied. And he could. |
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| 22:20.03 | mavhc | well, bbc does have a reporter named Johnny Diamond, which always reminds me of celebrity deathmatch |
| 22:20.12 | woglinde | mavhc *g* |
| 22:20.24 | RST38h | Jaffa: Aha, and Biden called her "governor" saying that he is doing it to avoid offendingall the other women |
| 22:21.26 | RST38h | sleep. |
| 22:24.04 | mikkov_ | RST38h: how boswars and freeciv are crashing? oom? |
| 22:24.16 | Jaffa | 'd have another beer, but it's in the garage and it's cold outside |
| 22:25.46 | Jaffa | She just winked. When talking about joining the team which is a gteam of mavericks. Sounds like the start of The IT Crowd |
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| 22:33.27 | Jaffa | beds. Or I might throw something at the TV |
| 22:34.37 | mavhc | ah, it's all a ploy to jump start consumer spending |
| 22:36.25 | Jaffa | An N900 would do that |
| 22:36.35 | Jaffa | and break less of the world |
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| 22:36.56 | GAN800 | oOh, it's all Nokia's fault |
| 22:37.03 | GAN800 | I like that angle. ;) |
| 22:37.35 | lcuk | GAN800, are you actually on 800 now - do you have multiple browsers available over there |
| 22:37.44 | lcuk | hi btw |
| 22:38.02 | GAN800 | I am actually on an N800. |
| 22:38.24 | GAN800 | I'm only about 6' way from the desktop. |
| 22:40.13 | GeneralAntilles | lcuk, looks good. |
| 22:40.21 | lcuk | excellent :D |
| 22:40.40 | lcuk | rubs his hands together gleefully |
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| 22:44.56 | lcuk | GAN800, i can see that river being a fun little way to interact |
| 22:46.38 | GAN800 | It's just gonna be filled with penises. |
| 22:50.44 | Mousey | ... |
| 22:50.46 | lcuk | PMSL GAN800 |
| 22:50.49 | lcuk | you are so right |
| 22:50.58 | lcuk | isnt everything user content based |
| 22:51.27 | lcuk | thankfully i havent ever felt the need personally |
| 22:51.42 | lcuk | mousey http://liqbase.net/liqriver.php |
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| 22:52.17 | Mousey | cute |
| 22:53.16 | jott | lcuk: you need to add a "private sketch mode" for your private sketching needs :) |
| 22:53.28 | lcuk | jott, the normal sketching is private |
| 22:53.31 | lcuk | that has not changes |
| 22:53.34 | lcuk | changed |
| 22:53.46 | jott | but i can see it in your history :D |
| 22:53.49 | lcuk | however, there is a new option on a new button out of the way called live sketching |
| 22:53.55 | jott | the pron you draw :P |
| 22:54.27 | lcuk | no, the normal sketches do not get uploaded :) and its less porn and more diary entries |
| 22:54.38 | jott | gna. you missed my joke :( |
| 22:54.41 | lcuk | uploads boobies though ;) |
| 22:54.52 | lcuk | yer jott mustv :P |
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| 23:02.43 | mgedmin | wants to sketch with the mouse in the web browser and have the sketch appear on lcuk's tablet |
| 23:07.00 | lcuk | mgedmin, heh |
| 23:07.08 | lcuk | thats for later :) |
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| 23:32.52 | Pavlov | hey, how do i get a diablo oprofile kernel with symbols for my n810? |
| 23:33.05 | Pavlov | rebuild the whole thing? |
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