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| 01:18.19 | GeneralAntilles | Could somebody ban this luser? https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3683 |
| 01:20.02 | jott | hehe that's the way a bug report should be filed :D |
| 01:22.07 | GeneralAntilles | . . . if you want yourself banned. |
| 01:23.39 | jott | oh, i nearly forgot about *that* detail. |
| 01:24.12 | jott | honestly, sometimes i wonder if the "keep every single bug policy" is really worth it :/ |
| 01:24.52 | GeneralAntilles | I guess the issue is the sequential bug numbering |
| 01:24.58 | GeneralAntilles | but I don't really know. |
| 01:25.03 | GeneralAntilles | There are some I'd really like to delete. |
| 01:29.24 | RST38h | GAN: Well, I can't wholeheartedly say this guy is incorrect |
| 01:30.09 | jott | most of us agree that modest sucks most of the time :) |
| 01:30.44 | jott | but still no reason to litter the bugtracker ;) |
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| 01:32.31 | GeneralAntilles | That doesn't make it a useful bug report |
| 01:32.47 | GeneralAntilles | I could file a bug report saying that a lot of Nokia's management is shitty. |
| 01:32.53 | GeneralAntilles | It may be correct |
| 01:32.55 | GeneralAntilles | but it's not useful |
| 01:33.00 | GeneralAntilles | Besides, I don't have any issues with Modest here. |
| 01:33.43 | GeneralAntilles | The bug tracker is for filing bug reports |
| 01:33.46 | GeneralAntilles | not blowing off steam. |
| 01:33.47 | jott | it crashes here all the time but i had no patience to collect backtraces so i just disabled it.. |
| 01:34.30 | jott | atleast the automatic fetching and notification... |
| 01:35.51 | jott | and when i doubt i just ssh into my box and use mutt ;) |
| 01:36.39 | GeneralAntilles | I love pccables.com |
| 01:37.05 | GeneralAntilles | 3 high-quality 2M HDMI cables and 1 HDMI-to-DVI 2M cable for $40 shipped |
| 01:37.12 | GeneralAntilles | I'd've paid $200 at Best Buy. |
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| 01:38.39 | jott | cable prices are ridicolous in 99% of the cases. |
| 01:41.02 | jott | was there actually any more or less decent image editing application for maemo? (to do level correction, white balancing and stuff) |
| 01:41.03 | GeneralAntilles | "figured you assholes would do something like that. FIX THE FUCKING EMAIL APP YOU STUPID INCOMPETENT MORONS!!!!!!" |
| 01:43.34 | GeneralAntilles | forwards it off to the bugmasters. |
| 01:43.43 | GeneralAntilles | jott, not that I've seen. |
| 01:43.49 | GeneralAntilles | Unless you count "running" GIMP |
| 01:43.59 | jott | yuck. |
| 01:46.36 | crashanddie | btw, do you guys think it would be possible to connect the NIT through wireless, and have it forward all the touch information to a computer through bluetooth or wifi? |
| 01:46.48 | crashanddie | How big is the lag in bluetooth? <1ms? |
| 01:47.02 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, not much. |
| 01:47.06 | crashanddie | Wifi will give a ~10ms lag |
| 01:47.25 | crashanddie | or well, even USB for that matter |
| 01:47.50 | crashanddie | but I'd like to see if the tablet would be usable as a poor man's touch tablet |
| 01:48.02 | RST38h | jott: Tablets use 16bpp displays |
| 01:48.17 | jott | RST38h: i know. |
| 01:50.26 | GeneralAntilles | Oooh |
| 01:50.28 | GeneralAntilles | It gets better |
| 01:50.29 | GeneralAntilles | http://slexy.org/view/s205xjaoPo |
| 01:51.23 | crashanddie | GeneralAntilles, where the hell does that come from? |
| 01:51.35 | GeneralAntilles | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3683 |
| 01:51.53 | GeneralAntilles | http://slexy.org/view/s2WvFeJbRK |
| 01:52.17 | RST38h | jott: You won't be doing any image processing on that |
| 01:52.51 | jott | RST38h: sure, i can do simple white balancing and level corrections. |
| 01:53.00 | jott | nothing for production quality..... |
| 01:53.05 | GeneralAntilles | waits eagerly for the next email. |
| 01:53.10 | RST38h | GAN: Promises of anal intercourse are cute but this is really high-school level of flaming |
| 01:53.11 | jott | but that's what i would not even use gimp for :/ |
| 01:53.17 | jott | (on a desktop) |
| 01:53.28 | GeneralAntilles | RST38h, yeah, I know, but I normally don't get reactions like this in my inbox. |
| 01:53.45 | RST38h | jott: Won't even be able to do white balancing and level corrections |
| 01:54.02 | RST38h | jott: I own a 16bpp laptop - it is absolutely useless for such things =( |
| 01:54.29 | jott | RST38h: why so? select a white spot, let the algorithm work. look at the histogram and stretch as needed. |
| 01:54.36 | jott | you could even do this "blind" |
| 01:55.43 | RST38h | yea, if you want to do it based solely on the histogram then no problem |
| 01:55.45 | jott | i don't want to publish it on a cover of a magazine ;) |
| 01:56.09 | RST38h | but looking at the image won't tell you anything - you are looking at 5 bits out of each 8 |
| 01:56.34 | GeneralAntilles | forgot what he was doing. . . . |
| 01:56.46 | jott | well or out of 24 or out of a cmyk color space.. :) |
| 01:57.01 | crashanddie | GeneralAntilles, isn't there a way to ban that email address? |
| 01:57.08 | jott | you can actually visually improve things, but i would never rely on that for serious usage. |
| 01:57.15 | RST38h | There is a better way to handle it |
| 01:57.38 | RST38h | use procmail to route email form this guy to a script that will respond with random paragraph of cursing |
| 01:57.38 | GeneralAntilles | I want to forward them to his grandmother. |
| 01:57.49 | RST38h | And let him chat with the script |
| 01:59.49 | jott | eliza to the rescue ;) |
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| 02:02.57 | jott | i wonder how long such a guy would need until he notices ;) |
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| 02:04.41 | RST38h | this one? he will talk for a long time |
| 02:09.26 | ToyKeeper | crashanddie: I don't see any reason why the NIT couldn't do x2x or something similar. You could even use VNC for that, though it's far from ideal. |
| 02:09.54 | crashanddie | [canadian] Eh? [/] |
| 02:09.55 | GeneralAntilles | Hey-ooooh! |
| 02:10.01 | GeneralAntilles | That's a working USB hub |
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| 02:11.59 | GeneralAntilles | Hrm, X isn't starting. . . . |
| 02:14.15 | ToyKeeper | crashanddie: You were wondering about using the NIT as a pointer device for another system? |
| 02:14.34 | crashanddie | oh, right |
| 02:14.34 | crashanddie | yeah |
| 02:14.38 | crashanddie | but VNC is too sluggish |
| 02:15.17 | ToyKeeper | x2x is definitely faster, but I don't know how it'd work for a touchscreen... I've only tried it with relative pointers, not absolute ones. |
| 02:15.19 | GeneralAntilles | Synergy? |
| 02:17.43 | rm_you | mmm Synergy is fun |
| 02:18.15 | rm_you | also, absolute vs relative might cause problems there |
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| 02:28.00 | ToyKeeper | Synergy is good if you need non-x11 support, or more than a few screens. |
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| 02:28.44 | ToyKeeper | For controlling a small number of x11 displays x2x is nicer... nowhere near as buggy, and much much smaller. |
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| 02:36.18 | rm_you | hrm, are there higher resolution versions of the logos on the Logo Contest page? >_> |
| 02:36.22 | jott | vnc is actually quite ok too if you drastically reduce the image quality. |
| 02:36.51 | GeneralAntilles | rm_you, you'd probably need to poke their creators. |
| 02:36.59 | rm_you | damn |
| 02:37.06 | rm_you | i didnt realize these were all so low res |
| 02:37.11 | rm_you | i'm about out of time <_< |
| 02:37.29 | rm_you | i'll have to photoshop them to larger sizes and do cleanup the best i can |
| 02:37.35 | GeneralAntilles | Hehe |
| 02:37.38 | GeneralAntilles | Vectorize them |
| 02:37.41 | GeneralAntilles | Wont take too long for most. |
| 02:37.46 | rm_you | hrm |
| 02:37.51 | GeneralAntilles | Heck, you might be able to automate it for some |
| 02:37.55 | rm_you | you know how to do that? |
| 02:37.58 | GeneralAntilles | Standford or somebody has a web app. |
| 02:38.12 | GeneralAntilles | Open up Photoshop, start tracing shapes with the pen tool. |
| 02:38.33 | rm_you | <_< |
| 02:38.35 | rm_you | crap |
| 02:38.40 | rm_you | i'm horrible at that |
| 02:38.40 | GeneralAntilles | http://vectormagic.com/ |
| 02:38.51 | GeneralAntilles | Er |
| 02:38.52 | GeneralAntilles | Wrong one |
| 02:39.10 | GeneralAntilles | Huh |
| 02:39.12 | GeneralAntilles | Well, it WAS free. |
| 02:39.25 | jott | huh? it's not anymore? |
| 02:39.32 | jott | was a quite good quality. |
| 02:39.38 | GeneralAntilles | Apparently not . . . |
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| 02:42.43 | rm_you | working here |
| 02:42.51 | rm_you | i can just screenshot this :P |
| 02:42.59 | rm_you | lulz |
| 02:43.05 | rm_you | or torrent it |
| 02:44.59 | jott | or stay free and use good old potrace ;) |
| 02:45.47 | jott | i think inkscape uses it too.. |
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| 03:01.00 | GeneralAntilles | Well, one precompiled kernel image has working USB |
| 03:01.02 | GeneralAntilles | the other boots. |
| 03:01.04 | GeneralAntilles | Awesome. |
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| 03:07.00 | jott | GeneralAntilles: what are you trying? angstrom? |
| 03:07.07 | GeneralAntilles | Angstrom |
| 03:07.09 | GeneralAntilles | and Deblet |
| 03:07.23 | GeneralAntilles | Deblet booted yesterday with a newer kernel |
| 03:07.30 | GeneralAntilles | But no USB, so I could only stare at the desktop |
| 03:07.54 | GeneralAntilles | Changed kernels to an older one with working USB |
| 03:07.59 | GeneralAntilles | Boot X wont start |
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| 03:08.19 | GeneralAntilles | s/Boot/But/ |
| 03:09.45 | jott | isn't angstrom supposed to work? :) |
| 03:09.54 | GeneralAntilles | Supposedly. |
| 03:09.59 | GeneralAntilles | But evidently not with the kernel with working USB |
| 03:10.09 | jott | oh joy :) |
| 03:10.19 | GeneralAntilles | I wiped that partition and my N800 is expanding a new image onto it as we speak |
| 03:10.26 | GeneralAntilles | This would be easy if I had a working tool chain |
| 03:10.34 | GeneralAntilles | but Mac OS X/PPC . . . isn't well supported. ;) |
| 03:11.29 | jott | just get a real pc :P |
| 03:11.39 | GeneralAntilles | I'm gonna get an Intel machine at some point |
| 03:11.47 | GeneralAntilles | then I can run VMWare images of whatever the hell I want. |
| 03:11.51 | GeneralAntilles | But, $$$ |
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| 03:12.32 | jott | does qemu run on ppc? ;) |
| 03:12.38 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, it does. |
| 03:12.50 | GeneralAntilles | But the MacPorts port is broken at the moment |
| 03:12.59 | jott | you could run a x86 system in it :D |
| 03:13.09 | GeneralAntilles | I could do the cross-compiling in it, actually. |
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| 03:13.37 | GeneralAntilles | I only have so much energy to overcome a certain number of hurdles. |
| 03:14.07 | GeneralAntilles | I may just resort to coercing people if this doesn't work. |
| 03:14.52 | GeneralAntilles | rm_you, you want to install the codesourcery tool chain, right? :P |
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| 03:21.35 | ds3 | anyone recall if the battery icon should show an animated charging battery when it is plugged in? |
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| 03:21.49 | GeneralAntilles | Typically |
| 03:21.53 | GeneralAntilles | Though sometimes it doesn't. |
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| 03:23.49 | rm_you | lol |
| 03:23.50 | jott | well if the battery is full it stops too ... |
| 03:23.54 | rm_you | GeneralAntilles: lolwut? :P |
| 03:24.03 | GeneralAntilles | I need a freaking kernel |
| 03:24.13 | GeneralAntilles | Just one little itty bitty kernel. |
| 03:24.13 | ToyKeeper | Oh yeah. Is there some way to make "bright black" display in osso-xterm? |
| 03:24.17 | GeneralAntilles | But, apparently, I can't get taht. |
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| 03:24.41 | GeneralAntilles | ssh access for a working kernel. :P |
| 03:24.59 | jott | ToyKeeper: install http://sse2.net/xterm/libvte4_0.12.2-0mh7_armel.deb |
| 03:28.09 | ToyKeeper | Thanks! |
| 03:28.17 | ToyKeeper | Mutt looks much nicer now. :) |
| 03:28.56 | jott | heh irssi too :) |
| 03:29.54 | jott | hmm ~450kb for a static uclibc directfb executable on jffs2 :/ |
| 03:30.39 | GeneralAntilles | Yeesh |
| 03:30.51 | ToyKeeper | Is there some way to tell a n810 to go into low-power modes? |
| 03:31.22 | ToyKeeper | It'd be nice to have triggers for turning the screen off, and suspending. |
| 03:31.26 | ds3 | hmmm sometimes.. HMmm |
| 03:31.54 | jott | ToyKeeper: well usually going to offline mode is sufficient. |
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| 03:32.03 | ToyKeeper | I suppose 'xset dpms force off' would work for one of the two, if xset was around. |
| 03:32.06 | derf | Hit the power button once and it'll give you a menu from which you can blank the screen. |
| 03:32.33 | derf | Or just lock it with the lock button on the upper-right side of the case. |
| 03:33.30 | GeneralAntilles | The powersaving should cover you. |
| 03:33.40 | GeneralAntilles | If it's not, then there's something killing CPU |
| 03:33.45 | GeneralAntilles | and that's a separate issue. |
| 03:34.00 | ToyKeeper | I'm not yet sure what to expect from the battery. |
| 03:34.44 | ToyKeeper | I'm used to palm-type PDAs, or even my zaurus, where I can wake it up, check some items off a list, and suspend it again within 10 seconds or so. |
| 03:35.20 | GeneralAntilles | ~4-6 hours active use |
| 03:35.30 | GeneralAntilles | ~7-10 hours light use |
| 03:35.35 | rm_you | ToyKeeper: i can just "let it sit" for like... 7 days |
| 03:35.43 | rm_you | in what seems like "on" mode |
| 03:36.02 | GeneralAntilles | idle on wifi 2-4 days |
| 03:36.11 | GeneralAntilles | idle off wifi 6-30 days |
| 03:36.12 | jott | ToyKeeper: as i said, if you go to offline mode and then do as derf said, it will idle quite long. |
| 03:36.31 | ToyKeeper | That's pretty impressive. |
| 03:38.03 | ds3 | then you install some buggy third party app and your battery life becomes 30mins :( |
| 03:39.13 | GeneralAntilles | ds3, the pitfalls of highly aggressive powersaving. |
| 03:41.52 | ToyKeeper | I normally keep things plugged in and/or turned off as much as possible, so the NIT's approach seems pretty unusual... don't turn it off; just let it sit idle and go to sleep on its own. |
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| 03:58.55 | RST38h | don't install misbehaving apps |
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| 07:48.42 | Stskeeps | morning lbt |
| 07:49.50 | oilinki | how to calibrate n800/diablo screen when the screen calibration can not do it anymore? |
| 07:50.26 | lbt | morning |
| 07:51.19 | lbt | just checking my raids to make sure I've not lost anymore drives, signed for another RMA'ed one (saturday, next day from samsung!!) |
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| 07:51.23 | oilinki | the bottom-right corner is about 1cm or more off so that if I push the bottom of the screen, the click is done in 1cm on top of it. |
| 07:51.55 | lbt | oilinki: why can't calibrate do it? |
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| 07:53.46 | oilinki | lbt: when doing the calibration and I click the 3rd calibration point the program complains that I should click closer to the calibration point |
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| 07:54.16 | lbt | urgh - I wonder if there is a calibration file you can delete |
| 07:54.30 | lbt | maybe the default setting is close enough |
| 07:54.42 | Proteous | maybe your touch screen is broken in some way |
| 07:54.53 | lbt | I'm in deblet at the moment so I can't search |
| 07:55.23 | Stskeeps | lbt: /etc/pointercal or something |
| 07:55.30 | Stskeeps | remove it and it will restore to default at boot.. maybe |
| 07:55.40 | Stskeeps | cant remember if it does it default or not |
| 07:55.52 | oilinki | lbt: I tried to delete the file, but then the device or X will restart after the first click |
| 07:56.17 | lbt | OK, can you get someone to send you a copy? |
| 07:56.17 | oilinki | I just reflashed n800 for diablo and hoped that it would have helped, but not. |
| 07:56.27 | lbt | ah - that's not good |
| 07:56.28 | qwerty12 | If it doesn't you can get the pointercal files from the xomap-server package |
| 07:56.39 | lbt | Proteous may have been right. |
| 07:56.54 | oilinki | Proteous: yes. that might be it as well |
| 07:57.01 | lbt | Are there any drawing apps you can use to see where the pointer appears |
| 07:57.04 | qwerty12 | hey Stskeeps |
| 07:57.12 | lbt | if it is smooth then that's a good start |
| 07:57.30 | lbt | my Zaurus got kinda jaggy in the end as the screen wore |
| 07:57.32 | Stskeeps | morning qwerty12 |
| 08:00.52 | oilinki | I made lines to the screen and on the screen the lines start to go up on the right corner |
| 08:01.28 | lbt | non-linear calibration is not supported :( |
| 08:05.15 | qwerty12 | learns not to apply the WEXT patch for cx3100 to a cx3100 module that is intended for use in maemo |
| 08:05.15 | oilinki | well I guess i try to open the n800 and clean the screen if there is some dirt |
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| 08:14.44 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps: interesting, that browser you want packaged can already run on N800 in maemo |
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| 08:21.32 | lbt | so lxde is up - but there is no virtual keyboard - what's that called? |
| 08:22.55 | lbt | hope it's short - I have to cut'n'paste a dummy command to get an error to get enough letters to cut'n'paste the keyboard applet command... |
| 08:23.07 | qwerty12 | ssh |
| 08:23.31 | lbt | I need the keyboard to enter the passwd for the keyring for the wep key :) |
| 08:23.49 | qwerty12 | Ah, my bad :), I once had to do the same thing, it was a nightmare :P |
| 08:24.07 | lbt | I'm getting used to it... |
| 08:24.28 | lbt | still, this useability stuff will help make deblet better |
| 08:24.42 | qwerty12 | I think what I did in the end was connect the thing to my computer and change the config files by hand so it was started automatically |
| 08:24.51 | qwerty12 | I think the keyboard is called matchbox-keyboard |
| 08:25.02 | lbt | i'll see |
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| 08:28.42 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: i know, but not in deblet :P |
| 08:29.22 | Addison | Qwerty! What's up big daddy? :) |
| 08:29.36 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps: :), I'll reflash the original kernel and reinstall deblet, with the gnome-full this time |
| 08:29.48 | qwerty12 | and lxde afterwards :> |
| 08:29.51 | qwerty12 | Addison: hey |
| 08:30.01 | Addison | Right back at you slick! |
| 08:30.07 | Addison | :) |
| 08:30.09 | qwerty12 | :) |
| 08:30.13 | Addison | How's life treating you? |
| 08:30.15 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: i only tested -basic atleast, but sure :P |
| 08:30.34 | Addison | For me, kind of like how a baby treats a diaper. *lol* |
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| 08:30.41 | qwerty12 | Addison: I'm doing ok, looks like I wasn't that bad in school :) |
| 08:31.33 | Addison | I just had orientation today. I've got 9 tests the first week of schooling. Needless to say, I'm screwed! |
| 08:31.36 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps: :P. Btw, I'm working on a very tiny enhancement for your installer, the ability to make the tablet connect to the internet if it isn't already, you won't believe how much times I got uk.debian.org not found etc halfway through the installer... |
| 08:31.51 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: ah, didn't know how to do that |
| 08:32.00 | Stskeeps | just do a diff and i'll commit it |
| 08:32.35 | qwerty12 | It's just a tiny program, lemme test it first |
| 08:32.42 | Addison | Hey qwerty, any chance you would be open to a luxury request for your new Xterm upgrade? |
| 08:33.02 | qwerty12 | Addison: it depends if I have the knowledge to actually do it :) |
| 08:33.21 | Addison | I guess that means no then! *lol* |
| 08:33.51 | qwerty12 | :P |
| 08:34.21 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: was ke-recv basically just get kernel events (gpio and such) and send out on dbus? |
| 08:35.14 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps: yes, but I don't know if it sends out on dbus, I think the other daemons do that (hal, hulda etc), come think of it hulda may be part of ke-recv |
| 08:35.22 | lbt | Stskeeps: do you know what the keyboard applet is ? matchbox-keyboard? |
| 08:35.31 | Addison | I was thinking about a feature to adjust the display colours like that in PuTTY.... Configuration->Window->Colours |
| 08:35.56 | lbt | lxde has no keybaord so I'm trying to cut'n'paste it |
| 08:36.11 | qwerty12 | Addison: Oh noez, that is way out of my league :). How about just a simple background and font colour change? :P :) |
| 08:36.11 | Stskeeps | lbt: yes, matchbox-keyboard |
| 08:36.32 | Stskeeps | lbt: it should be included in -lxde afaik |
| 08:36.36 | Stskeeps | so it's under Accessories |
| 08:36.39 | Stskeeps | (Keyboard) |
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| 08:39.22 | Addison | Noez is not a real word. Stop using words that have no meaning, qwerty! :) |
| 08:41.24 | Stskeeps | lbt: found it under accessories? |
| 08:41.37 | lbt | yep |
| 08:41.43 | Stskeeps | k |
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| 08:46.20 | Stskeeps | i want to make a product that uses this as logo: http://2photo.ru/uploads/posts/1/20070706/asaf_hanuka/06_07_2007_0253868001183744580_asaf_hanuka.jpg :> |
| 08:46.45 | qwerty12 | ooh, i c an xda |
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| 08:47.39 | Stskeeps | http://2photo.ru/2007/05/16/eshhe_odni_raboty_illjustratora_asaf_hanuka.html (collection of quite interesting art :P) |
| 08:47.56 | qwerty12 | exit code 0 means successful right? |
| 08:48.35 | Stskeeps | usually, yeah |
| 08:48.41 | qwerty12 | thanks |
| 08:48.42 | Proteous | that means your IT will self destruct in 10 seconds |
| 08:48.44 | Proteous | GET AWAY |
| 08:49.10 | qwerty12 | NO, I will die with my IT! |
| 08:49.23 | Proteous | probably just seriously mamed |
| 08:51.37 | Addison | Well it looks like you're busy tonight qwerty, I'll hit you up another time. |
| 08:51.48 | Addison | Have a good night you scum lapping sack of puke! *lol* |
| 08:52.01 | Addison | See ya qwerty, good luck with school. :) |
| 08:52.06 | qwerty12 | Bye, thanks :) |
| 08:54.40 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps: n3x has a point, it's what I wanted to do sometime: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=221385&postcount=13 |
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| 09:11.31 | qwerty12 | GeneralAntilles: Nice, I bet deblet runs a hell of a lot faster on the beagle :D |
| 09:11.52 | GeneralAntilles | I didn't actually have USB there |
| 09:11.55 | GeneralAntilles | So I couldn't say. |
| 09:12.06 | GeneralAntilles | Enlightenment on the Ångstrom image is quite snappy, though. |
| 09:13.00 | qwerty12 | Cool |
| 09:13.05 | GeneralAntilles | Is the finger-keyboard part of h-i-m? |
| 09:13.13 | qwerty12 | yeah, iirc |
| 09:13.27 | GeneralAntilles | That'd be really nice. |
| 09:15.27 | qwerty12 | If you can get a toolchain in angstrom/deblet, you could probably compile it but you would have to compile the rest of the hildon libs too. As soon as I get a proper gnome deblet, I'm gonna try and work on hildon-input-method in deblet |
| 09:15.45 | qwerty12 | For now, I'm racking my brains on trying to stop a loop |
| 09:17.28 | GeneralAntilles | You know, I kinda only just realized I have a 4th virtual desktop sitting completely unused. . . . |
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| 09:23.21 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps: ping |
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| 10:10.04 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: yeah but isnt it very hildon specific? |
| 10:10.33 | Stskeeps | im in a car at 130km/h so a bit lagged |
| 10:10.35 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps: tbh, I think it just works on any gtkentry |
| 10:10.57 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps: http://qwerty12.maemobox.org/start-internet |
| 10:11.38 | qwerty12 | The binary is simplicity itself. If the tablet is in offline mode, it asks to take it out. If the wifi is disconnected it brings up the select connection and if its already connected it does nothing |
| 10:11.48 | Stskeeps | ta |
| 10:12.10 | qwerty12 | It returns 0 when it's connected, 1 when its disconnected/disconnecting :) |
| 10:13.58 | Stskeeps | k |
| 10:14.46 | Stskeeps | so hildon is just a gtkim? as in on screeen kbd |
| 10:16.04 | qwerty12 | yeah basically, you would probably need to compile the hildon libs for the keyboard (and maybe the control panel) but it works on gtk input boxes (hildonised or not). I wouldn't tout it as a matchbox-replacement but it's useful when you don't want to keep toggling the matchbox |
| 10:17.17 | Stskeeps | intruiging |
| 10:17.37 | Stskeeps | i hate mb-kbd so |
| 10:18.11 | qwerty12 | +1. in all honesty, I prefer the windows osk to the linux osk's :/ |
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| 10:19.37 | Stskeeps | is osk hildon restricted to matchbox wm? |
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| 10:19.55 | GAN800 | I dunno why some people love that damn keyboard so much |
| 10:20.12 | qwerty12 | Stskeeps: don't think so, I've used it in fvwm2 |
| 10:20.44 | qwerty12 | I'm reinstalling gnome with the standard kernel and initfs, i'll set up a dev environment in deblet soon and try this out |
| 10:20.52 | Stskeeps | k |
| 10:21.04 | Stskeeps | sounds good |
| 10:21.30 | Stskeeps | is the input method oss? |
| 10:21.39 | qwerty12 | yeah |
| 10:21.51 | qwerty12 | ubuntu mobile has an edition but I prefer the maemo version |
| 10:26.10 | youam | is there an sqlite3 executable for diablo/chinook somewhere? |
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| 10:32.40 | sp3000 | I think that's come up on the lists |
| 10:32.50 | sp3000 | or in bugzilla too |
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| 10:52.55 | zhaozhou | Hmm, i could need some type of todo-list, but with an applet, so i can be reminded every time i pull up the tablet. :-) |
| 10:53.06 | qwerty12 | gpe-todo? |
| 10:53.20 | qwerty12 | with gpesummary |
| 10:53.49 | zhaozhou | But it seems buggy, it always displays "no todo's" |
| 10:54.09 | zhaozhou | works fine with the calendar though, but not with the todo. |
| 10:54.30 | qwerty12 | it worked for me, make sure you actually have a due date set on the todo's and it's "in progress" |
| 10:55.06 | qwerty12 | in the end, I didn't need a pim so I replaced it with yellownotes which isn't a todo thing but exactly what I wanted |
| 10:56.54 | zhaozhou | qwerty12, Hm, it's due by two weeks, status is in progress, priority high. Could try to decrease the due by and add a category... |
| 10:59.31 | zhaozhou | No, no go. |
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| 11:00.02 | qwerty12 | dunno, it worked for me :/ |
| 11:00.13 | zhaozhou | Bugs, bugs, bugs... |
| 11:00.35 | zhaozhou | Wait, now it works... |
| 11:00.36 | zhaozhou | odd. |
| 11:02.26 | zhaozhou | Meh. Only works if it's due by today. |
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| 11:08.05 | zhaozhou | Hm, I'll just write the date as yesterday, and then write the actual due-by in the summary |
| 11:08.09 | zhaozhou | Easiest. :-) |
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| 11:46.58 | crashanddie | Khertan1, io |
| 11:47.20 | crashanddie | Khertan1, what happened with "Darius Jack" ? |
| 11:48.31 | lcuk | when you were young and your mama told you stories about the boogie man, when n00bs enter certain communities on the net they are told haunting ghostly tails about a darius jack |
| 11:48.44 | lcuk | he will catch you when you least expect it |
| 11:56.01 | crashanddie | who the fuck is this idiot darius anyway? |
| 11:56.19 | crashanddie | he should be surgically removed from what I can see |
| 11:57.11 | lcuk | nahhhh, he helps to fill up the google groups numbers, i think hes going for the world record for joining and creating the most groups ever |
| 11:58.04 | crashanddie | really? |
| 11:58.19 | crashanddie | I did remember his name from somewhere, might be from fclp |
| 12:00.46 | lcuk | yer, he spends most of his time setting up groups for different things without actually getting his hands dirty. |
| 12:01.39 | crashanddie | funnily enough, when you google darius jack, you find maemo-dev quite high on the list |
| 12:01.53 | crashanddie | and also that jack darius is a Baywatch character |
| 12:02.12 | crashanddie | http://tko.jaiku.com/presence/37708329 |
| 12:03.47 | lcuk | the thing is, hes not exactly a troll - at least not in the normal trolling terms, hes just misguided and doesnt listen to advice |
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| 12:10.35 | keesj | he just needs some serious slapping again! |
| 12:11.59 | crashanddie | [Information about a play] Robbins as King Darius, Jack as Daniel, Marissa as Nathan,... |
| 12:12.07 | crashanddie | Wait, WHAT? |
| 12:12.35 | crashanddie | "Jack as Daniel", ok, you have some funky sense of humour, but "Marissa as Nathan", really? |
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| 13:03.52 | zhaozhou | The apt sources.list still resides in /etc/apt, right? |
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| 13:04.01 | zhaozhou | Because it's empty. :-( Need it to get NFS working. |
| 13:04.11 | zhaozhou | Well, i need to add a repo. |
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| 13:04.45 | flo_lap | hi all |
| 13:07.18 | zhaozhou | flo_lap, Hey there. :-) |
| 13:08.09 | sp3000 | man, dj's swung to the conspicuously nutty phase again, hasn't he :\ |
| 13:09.01 | sp3000 | now to find out who makes tinfoil hat detectors for computers |
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| 13:20.49 | lbt | I'm beginning to suspect that Darius Jack's emails are actually a the result of running "cat /dev/random | mail" whilst on The Heart of Gold. |
| 13:22.01 | lcuk | lbt, i imagine he will actually wet himself when apple released the large form factor newton |
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| 13:27.45 | snakemountain | morning. i just flashed for 2008he. how to gain root |
| 13:27.52 | snakemountain | on my 770 |
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| 13:44.45 | Stskeeps | lo qwerty12_N800 |
| 13:44.55 | qwerty12_N800 | hi Stskeeps |
| 13:45.15 | Stskeeps | i saw someone adjusted qt to use hildon im as well |
| 13:45.45 | qwerty12_N800 | cool, how well does it work? |
| 13:47.12 | Stskeeps | no clue, maybe mamona has something too? |
| 13:47.30 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 13:47.42 | Stskeeps | http://andrunko.blogspot.com/ |
| 13:47.48 | Stskeeps | for qt im |
| 13:47.57 | qwerty12_N800 | Afternoon Jaffa |
| 13:48.05 | qwerty12_N800 | cool, looking now |
| 13:48.34 | jott | the current svn version should be better. |
| 13:50.37 | jott | you can also look at the slides by gnuton from last akademy about h-i-m integration in qt. |
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| 13:52.14 | jott | qwerty12_N800: https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/qt4-x11-4.4.0/src/gui/inputmethod/?root=qt4 |
| 13:52.31 | qwerty12_N800 | thanks |
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| 14:04.28 | Stskeeps | qwerty12: http://live.gnome.org/Hildon/HildonInputMethod |
| 14:04.30 | Stskeeps | very useful |
| 14:04.34 | Stskeeps | aand |
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| 14:05.26 | Stskeeps | it seems like we should prolly just recompile the ubuntu packages since debian packages are hopeless |
| 14:05.29 | Stskeeps | :P |
| 14:05.36 | qwerty12_N800 | yep :) |
| 14:05.58 | Stskeeps | and then it looks like it |
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| 14:06.16 | Stskeeps | dunno about the nokia im methods dependancies though but i will look |
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| 14:10.30 | brontide | Who is in charge of the lists? |
| 14:11.18 | Jaffa | A number of people. Bugzilla's the right place if there's a problem. |
| 14:11.28 | qwerty12_N800 | Dunno but they/him/her must be sitting on their arse(s) if they have not removed Darius. |
| 14:12.04 | brontide | So I should open a Bugzilla if I want the user warned/off the list? |
| 14:12.43 | Jaffa | Probably should have a discussion on maemo-community about it, which - if there's consensus - then raise a bug about it |
| 14:12.55 | brontide | No |
| 14:13.20 | Jaffa | If it's me you want booted, ignore all that and here, have some money |
| 14:13.20 | brontide | he is harassing the list, someone needs to send him at least a warning |
| 14:13.51 | brontide | having another discussion will only continue to extend the problem onto the -community list |
| 14:14.59 | Jaffa | Which list, cos I've not seen the harrasment; but one of them might be lying about me still being subscribed |
| 14:15.37 | qwerty12_N800 | -developers, look at darius's stuff |
| 14:15.37 | Stskeeps | qwerty12_N800: isnt it just building h-i-f and either use ume kbd or wedge maemo pnes in? |
| 14:15.50 | Persia | qwerty12 |
| 14:15.52 | Persia | hi |
| 14:15.52 | Persia | :) |
| 14:16.02 | qwerty12_N800 | hi Persia |
| 14:16.10 | qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps: h-i-f? |
| 14:16.19 | Stskeeps | (/usr/lib/hildon-input-method |
| 14:16.26 | qwerty12_N800 | oh, framework |
| 14:16.31 | Persia | umm Batman.The.Dark.Knight.2008.READNFO.TELECINE.XViD-TheBatman is the better quality yeah? |
| 14:16.44 | Persia | i think that's better than DVDSCR |
| 14:17.06 | brontide | There is no componeint in bugzilla for the lists ( as far as I can find ) |
| 14:17.33 | qwerty12_N800 | Stskeeps: yeah, i think that's basicly it (i hope) |
| 14:17.41 | Persia | which one u grabbed? |
| 14:22.04 | brontide | Jaffa: if you are not going to do something I will post something to -community and -developer requesting help |
| 14:25.48 | Jaffa | brontide: I can't do anything - I've no power on the moderation of the lists. |
| 14:25.56 | Jaffa | has no power in anything |
| 14:26.00 | brontide | Do you know who does? |
| 14:26.16 | brontide | I would rather this be a private plea than a public ariting |
| 14:27.35 | lbt | brontide: Dave Neary sent a private email - Darius bounced it to the list |
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| 14:28.00 | VDVsx | brontide, maemo-community list run by ferenc at maemo.org |
| 14:28.09 | brontide | thanks |
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| 14:29.41 | Jaffa | Oh FFS. The listserv is doing the same thing that happened last time I had email problems: it claims I'm still subscribed, but isn't delivering me any email. |
| 14:29.54 | Jaffa | brontide: sorry if I gave you the impression I was some kind of list moderator. |
| 14:30.27 | brontide | No problems, it's just sometime hard to tell with so many people helping out |
| 14:34.10 | Jaffa | BTW, From external observation - Darius is acting like someone I used to work with who had fairly extreme Asperger's Syndrome. |
| 14:35.20 | brontide | I'm sure part of his issue is the grasp of the english language, but for the most part it's attitude and understanding |
| 14:35.42 | lbt | brontide: there you go.... |
| 14:36.01 | Stskeeps | hehe, a little AS is good when developing for tablets, but extreme sounds like a nightmare |
| 14:38.46 | Stskeeps | as tablet developers need to talk with others since its not fully documented:P |
| 14:40.32 | brontide | Stskeeps: trial and error FTW |
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| 14:53.11 | zhaozhou | The apt sources.list still resides in /etc/apt, right? |
| 14:53.39 | Stskeeps | sources.list.d too |
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| 15:03.54 | zhaozhou | Ah, thanks. |
| 15:04.03 | zhaozhou | Seems like i had a few updates.. :-) |
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| 15:05.37 | zhaozhou | but kernel-diablo-modules-extra did'nt exist... ): |
| 15:06.08 | zhaozhou | and portmap is'nt installable... ): |
| 15:06.09 | zhaozhou | aaw. |
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| 15:13.20 | yacoob | hm. What are my cron options on the tablet? |
| 15:13.48 | yacoob | (read: what should I use in order to make sure something will run on periodical basis, won't drain my battery, respect power saving levels, offline mode, etc.) |
| 15:15.40 | qwerty12 | alarmd. good luck setting it up. |
| 15:16.05 | johnx | qwerty12, you didn't have any luck with cron? |
| 15:16.44 | qwerty12 | johnx: oh for me, cron works great thanks, I'm answering yacoob in regards to " respect ... offline mode, etc.)" |
| 15:16.53 | yacoob | qwerty12 :) |
| 15:17.11 | yacoob | I think I can just wrap my command in connectivity checker... |
| 15:17.28 | johnx | maybe anacron + dbus-script |
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| 17:07.22 | zhaozhou | Hmm, an ssh server on this thing cant be safe, can it? I mean, i cant change the user pass? |
| 17:07.34 | zhaozhou | Or do i add another user and only allow that one to log in? |
| 17:08.58 | qwerty12 | Because the default user (aptly called user) has no password, you cannot ssh in with that user. But you can ssh in with the "root" account and the openssh server asks to set a password for that. |
| 17:09.29 | qwerty12 | btw, rott is properly working now :), I'll release an update to my 1/2 working "port" soon |
| 17:09.37 | zhaozhou | qwerty12, ah, right, so i'll passwd as root then. :-) |
| 17:10.09 | qwerty12 | ssh asks to set the root password during install :) |
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| 17:10.25 | zhaozhou | qwerty12, ah :D thank you! |
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| 17:11.48 | zhaozhou | OH. MY. GOD. Canola has lastfm support. WHOOP! |
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| 17:37.43 | Jaffa | really boggles at the level of passion about the council election process - on ITT. |
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| 17:54.49 | Jaffa | Hmm, trying to get USB networking between N810 and Ubuntu laptop; following http://maemo.org/development/documentation/pc_connectivity/ and my tablet's going all rebooty |
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| 18:08.52 | brontide | Jaffa: I've been getting reboot loops myself for the first time recently |
| 18:12.35 | zhaozhou | What do you do if you encounter that? Flash the device? |
| 18:19.52 | Jaffa | brontide: fortunately, now I'm not using the control panel applet but the command line it seems more stable. |
| 18:20.01 | Jaffa | Should be sufficient to demo mediaserv at the summit, anyway |
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| 18:21.16 | brontide | good, you did know they were planing on having some sort of demo units for presentations that were projector attached, unfortunately I have not been able to pin down what that means. |
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| 18:30.30 | Jaffa | brontide: indeed, figured I should be prepared just in case... |
| 18:30.48 | Jaffa | And I don't want to have to rely on a wireless LAN for a demo - I've seen bad experiences with them |
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| 18:31.46 | lopz | hola |
| 18:31.46 | brontide | heh, understood.... with 150 people with one or more wifi devices it might get a little hairy at times |
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| 18:34.40 | dystopia | cozy |
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| 19:08.31 | Proteous | hmf why doesnt the Ctrl key work like the shift and funk key on the n810 keyboard |
| 19:09.28 | Proteous | you have to hold it down at the same time as the other key you press, you cant toggle it |
| 19:09.39 | Proteous | A |
| 19:09.41 | Proteous | N |
| 19:09.43 | Proteous | O |
| 19:09.44 | Proteous | Y |
| 19:09.47 | Proteous | I |
| 19:09.48 | Proteous | N |
| 19:09.50 | Proteous | G |
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| 19:21.28 | brontide | You can file an enhancement request in bugzilla |
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| 19:25.01 | zhaozhou | Wait a min... i bought my n810 yesterday, should'nt i have the daiblo-release? |
| 19:25.26 | BULLE | zhaozhou: nope |
| 19:25.41 | zhaozhou | Huh, why is that? Is'nt diablo the newest one? |
| 19:25.47 | BULLE | zhaozhou: dunno why |
| 19:25.59 | BULLE | zhaozhou: i got my n810 like 2 weeks ago, no diable there either |
| 19:26.05 | BULLE | zhaozhou: diablo |
| 19:26.11 | zhaozhou | BULLE, Hmm.. odd. |
| 19:26.17 | zhaozhou | BULLE, Hej, forresten. :-) |
| 19:26.23 | BULLE | zhaozhou: most likely they were manufactured quite some time ago, and flashed with the version available then |
| 19:26.46 | zhaozhou | BULLE, Should be able to update then... right? |
| 19:26.54 | zhaozhou | Perhaps that's not nessesary. |
| 19:27.06 | zhaozhou | I'll read on. |
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| 19:29.39 | brontide | dneary: Ignoring him only works when 100% of the 1600 subscribers do so |
| 19:29.57 | dneary | brontide: No |
| 19:30.33 | dneary | It works when all the ones who are replying to him rather than doing something more useful do so |
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| 19:40.06 | BULLE | zhaozhou: sure, update is possible |
| 19:40.08 | BULLE | zhaozhou: thats what i did |
| 19:40.23 | BULLE | zhaozhou: just used the nokia update program, plugged the n810 in via usb cable, and updated |
| 19:42.09 | zhaozhou | BULLE, Linux available application? |
| 19:43.11 | BULLE | zhaozhou: hmmmm, i did it in windows, i found some instructions on how to do it in linux, but i found those to be a bit complex, and not that well outlined, so i just used windows |
| 19:43.19 | BULLE | zhaozhou: but it can be done from linux |
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| 19:53.48 | zhaozhou | Found it. :-) Thanks. |
| 19:56.10 | zhaozhou | Too bad i'll have to erase my calendar though... |
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| 19:59.16 | lcuk | i am writing the last 24hours off as a bad do, anyone feel today has been miserable? |
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| 20:01.24 | zhaozhou | Written one minute to 12, nice. |
| 20:01.30 | zhaozhou | i think this has been a great day though |
| 20:05.19 | lcuk | i just spent almost 3 hours hunter gathering for food - the worst part we ended up back at the local take away \@/ |
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| 20:06.56 | Flecko | ok |
| 20:07.03 | Flecko | lets hope xchat doesn't crash this time |
| 20:07.16 | Flecko | hello all |
| 20:07.41 | zhaozhou | Ha, hi there. |
| 20:07.43 | Proteous | my remotly crashes Flecko's xchat |
| 20:07.49 | Proteous | hmm |
| 20:08.01 | Flecko | remotely? |
| 20:08.14 | lcuk | brontide / jaffa - i sent a mail to community- enquiring about it - if we had a laptop and overhead cam setup a speaker could just put their device down and use it |
| 20:08.16 | Flecko | I think i crashed xchat because I typed /list when I got here instead of just using the gui button for the nick list. |
| 20:08.46 | Flecko | I haven't been on irc in years...and I have no idea what a good client is...so I'm just using the default ubuntu one. |
| 20:08.47 | Proteous | doesn't /list output a channel list? |
| 20:09.02 | bef0rd | yes, /names |
| 20:09.03 | Proteous | also /list is not a good thing to run |
| 20:09.07 | lcuk | Proteous, special maemo feature, its a shortcut to closing the app |
| 20:09.16 | Proteous | lol |
| 20:09.16 | Flecko | hehe |
| 20:09.19 | Flecko | oh well |
| 20:09.24 | Flecko | It seems to be working ok now. |
| 20:09.29 | lcuk | probably memory related |
| 20:09.34 | lcuk | the list is quite large |
| 20:09.35 | Flecko | I used to use bitchx...but I have lost the taste for console apps. |
| 20:09.48 | Flecko | anywho....anyone here running deblet? |
| 20:09.50 | Proteous | it's usualy a bad idea to run /list due to the extreme amout of output |
| 20:10.12 | Proteous | some irc networks will kick you for it |
| 20:10.33 | Flecko | hehe |
| 20:10.50 | Flecko | well...back when I used to IRC a lot.../list gave you maybe 30 or so results. |
| 20:10.58 | Proteous | now running /list with a partial match string is okay |
| 20:11.01 | Flecko | I've never been on freenode before...but I understand its quite large ;P |
| 20:11.06 | Proteous | heh |
| 20:11.09 | lcuk | flecko, depends on the server you are using |
| 20:11.20 | lcuk | if theres thousands of channels (as there are on freenode) |
| 20:11.38 | Flecko | I get it lcuk. |
| 20:11.59 | Proteous | are you sure? we could go on |
| 20:12.04 | lcuk | are you sure? i could draw you a diagram :P |
| 20:12.05 | Chani | hehe |
| 20:12.09 | Proteous | lol |
| 20:12.12 | Pebby | please make it a venn diagram |
| 20:12.14 | lcuk | lol |
| 20:12.14 | Pebby | with colors |
| 20:12.14 | Flecko | hahaha |
| 20:12.27 | lcuk | Proteous, stop it |
| 20:12.40 | Flecko | Believe it or not though...I came here with a purpose. |
| 20:12.44 | Proteous | formats a 1TB drive |
| 20:12.52 | Flecko | I'm having trouble getting wireless working under deblt. |
| 20:12.54 | Flecko | er deblet. |
| 20:12.54 | lcuk | is that to store the /list list? |
| 20:12.59 | Pebby | Proteous: format it with squashfs! |
| 20:13.01 | Proteous | lol |
| 20:13.03 | Flecko | any takers? |
| 20:13.36 | lcuk | Stskeeps, isnt deblet your domain? |
| 20:13.37 | Proteous | I only use file systems created by convicted murderers, sorry |
| 20:13.50 | Flecko | I get a list of networks using NetworkManager...but it never actually connects to them. |
| 20:14.03 | Flecko | He appears to be idle ;P |
| 20:14.05 | Proteous | my coices are somewhat limited but not nonexistant |
| 20:14.14 | Flecko | hahah |
| 20:14.20 | Flecko | That whole reiserFS thing was pretty weird. |
| 20:14.29 | Pebby | Proteous: I hear the maker of squashfs tried to compress his wife |
| 20:14.35 | lcuk | Proteous, ahhh, so you are using ojfs |
| 20:14.43 | Proteous | yeah, I meet the guy at a LUG meeting |
| 20:14.56 | Proteous | seemed normal enough |
| 20:15.08 | Flecko | heh...I wasn't ever sure he was normal. |
| 20:15.23 | Flecko | I mean, someone that invents their own file system probably doesn't operate on the same level as everyone else... |
| 20:15.26 | lcuk | as most do, its unfortunate that people become broked in such a small timeframe |
| 20:15.33 | Flecko | but most open source people aren't murderers I'd think. |
| 20:15.37 | Proteous | heh |
| 20:16.12 | lcuk | flecko, its not open source, its inventiveness itself :) everyone has a trigger |
| 20:16.24 | lcuk | thankfully most dont ever have it pressed |
| 20:16.46 | Flecko | hehe |
| 20:16.54 | Proteous | my trigger is people eating open faced toasted cheese sandwiches in front of me |
| 20:17.01 | Flecko | I consider myself a fairly well adjusted person...murder is the least of my worries. |
| 20:17.33 | Proteous | something about droopy cheese... |
| 20:17.54 | Flecko | I call it toasted cheese as well...but in Maryland here, everyone seems to call it grilled cheese. |
| 20:17.57 | Flecko | Interesting. |
| 20:18.15 | Proteous | I've heard/used both |
| 20:18.25 | lcuk | Proteous, do you feel the same way about something like a double bacon cheesebuger? or would you let that slide? |
| 20:18.50 | Proteous | no, bacon is all good in my book |
| 20:19.05 | lcuk | \o/ its good in most peoples books |
| 20:19.12 | Proteous | heh |
| 20:19.51 | lcuk | the single greatest web portal known to man: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bacon/ |
| 20:19.57 | Flecko | hah! I fixed my problem. |
| 20:20.08 | Flecko | The wireless driver under deblet doesn't like your router on a channel other than 1. |
| 20:20.42 | lcuk | fair enough ,its an OSS driver stack isnt it? |
| 20:21.00 | lcuk | or does it use the origina maemo one |
| 20:21.06 | Flecko | oss |
| 20:21.23 | Flecko | certain things don't work properly like signal strength..but everything else seems to be ok. |
| 20:22.59 | lcuk | as long as it works |
| 20:24.26 | Proteous | OMG bacon reddit is amazing |
| 20:25.16 | Flecko | hrm, I may have spoken too soon |
| 20:25.28 | Flecko | While I am connected to my wifi router, I don't appear to have a net connection. |
| 20:25.32 | Flecko | No hostnames are resolving. |
| 20:26.37 | Proteous | dhcp not working? |
| 20:26.52 | Proteous | use a static IP |
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| 20:28.24 | Flecko | let me give that a shot |
| 20:29.39 | lcuk | Proteous, it has increased bacon intake in our house. everytime i go there i come away hungry |
| 20:30.44 | Proteous | I like to buy the big bags of bacon scraps that the sell at the local megamart for cheap |
| 20:30.59 | Proteous | and use it in everything... |
| 20:31.05 | Flecko | I just had to freeze a 3lb pack of bacon because I can't eat it fast enough. |
| 20:31.10 | Proteous | heh |
| 20:31.17 | Proteous | yeah |
| 20:31.46 | lcuk | flecko, you are not thinking hard enough: cook and chop bacon, coat in mayo and eat as breakfast cereal |
| 20:31.52 | lcuk | bacon vodka |
| 20:31.57 | Flecko | hehe |
| 20:32.05 | Flecko | I usually just use it on sandwiches I eat at work. |
| 20:32.11 | Flecko | and a strip or two for breakfast |
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| 20:32.45 | lcuk | my god ive just had a big indian and my mouth is waterin |
| 20:33.08 | lcuk | mmm bacon curry |
| 20:33.10 | lcuk | puts it on the list of things to try |
| 20:35.06 | Flecko | hrm |
| 20:35.15 | Flecko | any clue on how to specify a statip IP with network manager? |
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| 20:35.23 | Flecko | or am I going to have to force it with iwconfig? |
| 20:36.06 | lbt | bacon in pitta bread |
| 20:36.19 | lbt | anyhow - back to watching "Lost" |
| 20:36.26 | lcuk | lol lbt |
| 20:37.06 | lcuk | that might just work - it would still be a blt then, just hcoose the salad and sauce correctly |
| 20:38.30 | jott | hmmmm did i hear bacon? |
| 20:38.39 | lcuk | :D |
| 20:39.00 | lcuk | i mustv taken lardmans crown now |
| 20:39.09 | lcuk | how you doin jott |
| 20:39.26 | jott | ah quite fine. still alot to do. |
| 20:39.42 | jott | time is running :) |
| 20:39.52 | lcuk | not the only one, im sat here looking at a building site and wondering if the patio will be finished in time |
| 20:40.07 | lcuk | (metaphorically speaking of course) |
| 20:40.20 | jott | hehe |
| 20:40.42 | jott | as long as you put some nice plants there ;) |
| 20:41.23 | lcuk | yer, ive got all the pieces, it just needs assembling |
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| 20:52.42 | GeneralAntilles | Ignoring Darius Jack, now there's a novel idea. |
| 20:53.28 | Proteous | Darius Jack is a visionary |
| 20:53.31 | Proteous | a genius really |
| 20:53.34 | Proteous | amazing |
| 20:53.43 | Proteous | epic |
| 20:53.49 | jott | darius jack rocks! :) |
| 20:53.56 | Proteous | a testement to human accoplishment] |
| 20:54.02 | Proteous | and a great speller |
| 20:54.06 | Proteous | someone to look up to |
| 20:54.16 | Proteous | but I hate him because he ate my cookie |
| 20:54.28 | Proteous | it was chocolate chip :/ |
| 20:54.29 | Proteous | cries |
| 21:00.55 | GeneralAntilles | I think people continue to completely miss the point that it's a _maemo.org_ Community Council. . . . |
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| 21:02.10 | lcuk | no, hes trolling the dev- channel |
| 21:02.18 | lcuk | thats what ppl are moaning about |
| 21:02.25 | lcuk | i wouldnt care if it was all in community |
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| 21:09.33 | jott | GeneralAntilles: i thought it would be the "Nokia Council"?! :P |
| 21:11.13 | GeneralAntilles | or "itT Community Council" |
| 21:13.04 | jott | "iTTT" the internet tablet talk tribunal :) |
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| 21:32.36 | eichi | hello, im using the miro player some times so look some podcast, is there a way to use the maemo IT as a remote control? |
| 21:42.13 | GeneralAntilles | Hrm, that's bad. . . . http://maemo.org/vote/ |
| 21:42.55 | derf | Why is that bad? |
| 21:43.05 | GeneralAntilles | "Maemo Community council" |
| 21:43.12 | GeneralAntilles | It's "maemo.org Community Council" |
| 21:43.24 | GeneralAntilles | Bad because it implies a lot of things that simply aren't true. |
| 21:43.35 | GeneralAntilles | and incorrectly uses a Nokia trademark |
| 21:44.23 | lbt | OH MY GOD! |
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| 21:50.02 | GeneralAntilles | Reggie messed it up on the news article, too. . . . http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=220949#post220949 |
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| 21:56.31 | guenther | Oh, man. Now that I've had a quick look at scummVM, I need to find my old "The Curse of Monkey Island" box again. |
| 21:56.52 | GeneralAntilles | Plays really well on the tablets. |
| 21:57.29 | guenther | Right, make me want it right now even more. ;) |
| 21:57.40 | guenther | saw the screenshots |
| 21:58.09 | guenther | Anyway, this is something I kind of always wondered: |
| 21:58.34 | guenther | Is there any "this is where the device beleves I am touching" app? |
| 21:58.50 | guenther | Like a tool in the old Palm days... |
| 21:58.56 | GeneralAntilles | Sketch |
| 21:59.19 | guenther | Basically, a blank screen. Full-screen. That merely shows a cross-hair cursor wherever I touch. |
| 21:59.37 | guenther | GeneralAntilles: Scetch falls short on two constraints: |
| 21:59.41 | guenther | Not full screen. |
| 22:00.04 | guenther | Doesn't easily show repeating tap / move over the same point. |
| 22:00.14 | GeneralAntilles | OK, MyPaint? |
| 22:00.19 | guenther | The first being the most important. |
| 22:00.49 | guenther | To check the edges, which tend to be off the most, if at all. |
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| 22:01.26 | lbt | guenther: yes : deblet :) |
| 22:02.12 | GeneralAntilles | maemopadplus |
| 22:02.27 | GeneralAntilles | http://www.legacyoflies.com/devuploads/general_antilles/emo.png |
| 22:02.35 | guenther | Hmm, mypaint looks cool. Need maemo screenshots, though. ;) |
| 22:02.36 | GeneralAntilles | Has pressure data, too. |
| 22:02.44 | guenther | lbt: What's deblet? |
| 22:02.47 | lbt | hmm |
| 22:02.58 | GeneralAntilles | guenther, Debian+tablet |
| 22:03.08 | GeneralAntilles | http://trac.tspre.org/projects/deblet |
| 22:03.12 | GeneralAntilles | ~deblet is http://trac.tspre.org/projects/deblet |
| 22:03.13 | infobot | okay, GeneralAntilles |
| 22:03.33 | lbt | someone was asking for a mouseover mode |
| 22:03.45 | lbt | I wondere whether it makes sense to use pressure |
| 22:03.57 | lbt | kinda obvious but... |
| 22:04.25 | guenther | heh, a "distro"... |
| 22:04.42 | lbt | it runs normal X |
| 22:05.10 | lbt | so as I move my stylus around, the cursor follows it :) |
| 22:05.19 | guenther | understand :) |
| 22:05.37 | lbt | but actually |
| 22:05.51 | lbt | it would be an idea for a simple app |
| 22:06.01 | lbt | 'touchscreentest' |
| 22:06.08 | guenther | exactly |
| 22:06.14 | lbt | hmm, I need a Qt4 project... |
| 22:06.49 | guenther | Well, you can enhance it, make it optionally report all crazy data, moving out of the test-area where the stylus is heading to... ;) |
| 22:18.48 | sp3000 | <3 emo.png |
| 22:32.56 | lpotter | lbt: checkout http://qt-apps.org/ |
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| 23:44.46 | lcuk | does anyone know how i get a list of fonts which includes the filename associated? im looking at the fc-list command and want to know which are from ttf files |
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| 23:53.03 | GeneralAntilles | No, lcuk, but I've got a question for you. :P |
| 23:53.17 | GeneralAntilles | Got any recommendations if I want to build a wood case for the Beagle? |
| 23:53.22 | lcuk | im close anyway, i think i know how to do it now :) |
| 23:53.23 | lcuk | http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KDEPrint/Fonts/Checking-your-font-configuration#List_all_fonts_on_your_system |
| 23:53.47 | lcuk | it depends what you want to do with it really |
| 23:54.04 | lcuk | has it got a screen or are you considering getting it one |
| 23:54.15 | GeneralAntilles | Nah, no screen |
| 23:54.21 | GeneralAntilles | Just need the HDMI port. |
| 23:54.27 | lcuk | and power |
| 23:54.31 | GeneralAntilles | So, little 4" x 4" x 1" box |
| 23:54.53 | GeneralAntilles | 2x 3.5mm, HDMI, SD, USB, serial and JTAG |
| 23:54.57 | GeneralAntilles | Plus 5v power |
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| 23:56.14 | lcuk | if i ever came to needing one of those i would initially look for a prebuilt hobby box |
| 23:56.39 | lcuk | have you checked out the hobby market around the #beagle camp? |
| 23:56.52 | GeneralAntilles | There's one lucite kit |
| 23:58.13 | lcuk | the case for my 810 started out life as a folding chess board. i originally wanted to keep it closable but cut out both halves like a fake book |
| 23:58.36 | lcuk | its the simplest way to create an area without having knowledge of woodworking and full joinery |
| 23:59.29 | lcuk | you could try similar for your beagle, its easier using a router to cut into a preexisting block than knowing how to build a frame |
