| 00:00.11 | AStorm | up arrow |
| 00:00.14 | zakmm | i use thumb thingy ? |
| 00:00.24 | KotCzarny | that's dpad |
| 00:00.27 | zakmm | oh right |
| 00:00.32 | KotCzarny | on the left |
| 00:00.33 | KotCzarny | right? |
| 00:00.34 | zakmm | lol i was looking for that on screen :P |
| 00:00.44 | zakmm | thanks |
| 00:00.45 | zakmm | yeah |
| 00:01.19 | zakmm | not working |
| 00:01.42 | zakmm | update-rc.d metalayer-crawler0 remove -f |
| 00:01.54 | zakmm | exists during rc.d purge (use -f to force) |
| 00:02.01 | AStorm | add -f after update-rc.d |
| 00:02.05 | AStorm | not at the end |
| 00:02.49 | zakmm | ah there we go |
| 00:02.50 | zakmm | done |
| 00:02.56 | zakmm | ok now .. internet please :D lol |
| 00:03.00 | KotCzarny | poor metalayer.. |
| 00:03.04 | KotCzarny | nobody loves it |
| 00:03.10 | AStorm | it's meant to die |
| 00:03.13 | KotCzarny | -crawl |
| 00:03.21 | zakmm | why dont the dev's delete it |
| 00:03.23 | zakmm | or fix it? |
| 00:03.38 | AStorm | it is fairly efficient |
| 00:03.42 | zakmm | can i delete map ? (app ) |
| 00:03.44 | AStorm | but should check system load |
| 00:03.47 | zakmm | ill neve ruse it |
| 00:03.53 | AStorm | zakmm: yes, use the application manager |
| 00:04.02 | zakmm | i need the 8.1mb lol |
| 00:04.11 | zakmm | 64mb rs-mmc + whatever is already in it |
| 00:04.18 | zakmm | and OS2008 takes alottt + swap |
| 00:04.35 | zakmm | how do i remove help files? |
| 00:05.06 | AStorm | just the same, but you need "red pill mode" |
| 00:05.14 | AStorm | google for the info |
| 00:05.17 | zakmm | ah nevermind then |
| 00:05.23 | zakmm | ok the ifconfig wlan0 ? |
| 00:05.28 | zakmm | what was after wlan0? |
| 00:05.56 | KotCzarny | try ping first |
| 00:06.12 | NullM0dem | I always thought swapping to SD cards to be bad, do the newer cards hold up better in terms of the number of write's and deletes ? |
| 00:06.36 | Grackle | yes |
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| 00:07.03 | Grackle | They are smarter about handling errors, too. |
| 00:07.08 | zakmm | just one ping line.. which i got withut root |
| 00:07.11 | zakmm | and then it like freezes |
| 00:07.14 | zakmm | like loading.. |
| 00:07.15 | NullM0dem | thnkas |
| 00:07.51 | AStorm | zakmm, so pings don't reach anyone |
| 00:07.55 | Grackle | Does anyone know how to change the foreground color in osso-xterm? |
| 00:07.58 | AStorm | check netstat -r |
| 00:08.06 | AStorm | if there is a default route |
| 00:08.17 | AStorm | Grackle: I guess standard ~/.Xresources might work |
| 00:08.17 | KotCzarny | grackle: it's in the prefs |
| 00:08.29 | AStorm | yup, it is |
| 00:08.59 | Grackle | Oh, that it is. I didn't think it would be in the font settings dialog, so I never clicked there. Huh. |
| 00:09.08 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:09.13 | zakmm | wlan 192.168.10.1 gateway ... genmask 0.0.0.0 flags UG ? |
| 00:09.30 | NullM0dem | do the menus work in Xterm? |
| 00:09.39 | zakmm | me? |
| 00:09.42 | zakmm | o n/m |
| 00:09.50 | KotCzarny | my head hurts, ugh, bbl |
| 00:09.52 | NullM0dem | sorry im all over |
| 00:12.39 | zakmm | what was that site with the repos? |
| 00:12.55 | AStorm | zakmm: read the topic, d'oh |
| 00:13.01 | AStorm | e.g. /topi |
| 00:13.05 | AStorm | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.06 | AStorm | :> |
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| 00:14.56 | zakmm | ahhh thx |
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| 00:15.54 | zakmm | gonna add as a bookmark |
| 00:15.58 | zakmm | so when im in school tomorrow |
| 00:16.00 | zakmm | i can add the repos |
| 00:16.05 | AStorm | :> |
| 00:16.09 | zakmm | would it be dumb to add all repos? all 49 ? |
| 00:16.18 | AStorm | bad idea |
| 00:16.21 | zakmm | k |
| 00:16.28 | AStorm | add maemo-extras, and maybe maemo-extras-devel |
| 00:16.41 | AStorm | maybe that one with ogg-support, by Thomas Kulve |
| 00:16.43 | zakmm | school has fast internet so i dont mind download time geting from all repos |
| 00:16.47 | zakmm | but yeah |
| 00:16.54 | AStorm | others only if strictly needed |
| 00:16.59 | zakmm | school has 44mbit down |
| 00:17.01 | KotCzarny | heh.. |
| 00:17.01 | AStorm | some have unstable software |
| 00:17.08 | zakmm | ah |
| 00:17.10 | KotCzarny | how much space you have on your 770? |
| 00:17.10 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 00:17.15 | AStorm | even maemo-extras-devel is stretching it |
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| 00:17.28 | zakmm | how come i cant add bookmarks? |
| 00:17.36 | AStorm | huh? |
| 00:17.37 | zakmm | theres no add button? |
| 00:17.40 | zakmm | in "my bookmarks" |
| 00:17.46 | AStorm | there is in the browser |
| 00:17.50 | zakmm | ohh n/m |
| 00:17.55 | zakmm | the file menu |
| 00:17.59 | AStorm | too |
| 00:18.00 | zakmm | i cant in browser.. no net right now |
| 00:18.04 | AStorm | ... |
| 00:18.06 | AStorm | no, you can |
| 00:18.10 | AStorm | even w/o net |
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| 00:19.32 | zakmm | so i add maemo extras? |
| 00:19.44 | AStorm | yes, that should be added already I think |
| 00:19.51 | zakmm | Kotcrzarny: not sure .. probably only like 15mb |
| 00:19.51 | AStorm | but some repos which are added, are broken |
| 00:19.58 | zakmm | i just flashed? |
| 00:20.00 | zakmm | to 2008HE |
| 00:20.05 | KotCzarny | it was rethoric question |
| 00:20.06 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:20.17 | AStorm | that is the distro/version entry isn't valid |
| 00:20.24 | zakmm | Browser addons and extensions for the microB web browser. |
| 00:20.29 | zakmm | is microb the default browser? |
| 00:20.32 | zakmm | i thought it was opera? |
| 00:20.43 | AStorm | not in OS 2008 |
| 00:20.46 | KotCzarny | not anymore in os2008 |
| 00:20.48 | zakmm | ah |
| 00:20.52 | AStorm | microb is better |
| 00:20.59 | zakmm | i heard there was a adblock app? to make net faster? |
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| 00:21.08 | AStorm | no, it slows things down |
| 00:21.14 | AStorm | esp. browser startup |
| 00:21.18 | KotCzarny | junkbuster ? ;) |
| 00:21.24 | zakmm | hah |
| 00:21.28 | AStorm | junkbuster breaks pages ;P |
| 00:21.29 | zakmm | minefield firefox on the n800 :P |
| 00:21.30 | zakmm | repo |
| 00:21.33 | AStorm | privoxy too, but less |
| 00:21.38 | zakmm | it was called "adblock" i heard |
| 00:21.46 | zakmm | i saw it on my 2006 in application manager i think |
| 00:21.46 | AStorm | adblock is a plugin |
| 00:21.52 | KotCzarny | astorm: that's why i use junkbuster instead of privoxy |
| 00:21.53 | AStorm | but it's SLOW |
| 00:21.54 | AStorm | don't use it |
| 00:21.58 | zakmm | RTComm Beta ? |
| 00:22.00 | zakmm | what is that |
| 00:22.02 | AStorm | KotCzarny: junkbuster breaks pages |
| 00:22.09 | AStorm | zakmm: the chat application, beta version |
| 00:22.10 | KotCzarny | astorm: which ones? |
| 00:22.15 | zakmm | is it good? |
| 00:22.17 | AStorm | with improved support for voice comm |
| 00:22.23 | zakmm | would it be bad for me? |
| 00:22.27 | AStorm | and more IM protocols |
| 00:22.29 | AStorm | well, it's stable |
| 00:22.31 | zakmm | considering im nokia 770 and all |
| 00:22.47 | AStorm | who knows, should work well |
| 00:23.18 | zakmm | ah ill just wait lol |
| 00:23.21 | zakmm | im trying to do so much so fast |
| 00:24.10 | zakmm | device has 36mb avaliable |
| 00:24.48 | AStorm | not too much |
| 00:24.49 | zakmm | hey |
| 00:24.53 | zakmm | on the internet call i can add SIP |
| 00:24.55 | AStorm | but an SD card and move the system there |
| 00:24.59 | AStorm | zakmm: exactly |
| 00:24.59 | zakmm | cant i add my voipbuster account or something? |
| 00:25.01 | zakmm | and call people? |
| 00:25.03 | AStorm | ... |
| 00:25.03 | KotCzarny | astorm: it's 770 |
| 00:25.05 | KotCzarny | no sd |
| 00:25.06 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:25.11 | AStorm | yes, you can, but performance won't be high |
| 00:25.18 | AStorm | KotCzarny: RS-MMC, who cares |
| 00:25.18 | AStorm | ;P |
| 00:25.20 | KotCzarny | isn't sd incompatible with mmc? |
| 00:25.21 | zakmm | describe not high? :P |
| 00:25.28 | AStorm | KotCzarny: it is compatible |
| 00:25.30 | AStorm | mostly |
| 00:25.32 | zakmm | rs-mmc not mmc :P |
| 00:25.35 | AStorm | at least electrically |
| 00:25.45 | AStorm | you need to hack the enclosure though |
| 00:25.53 | AStorm | or the socket |
| 00:26.05 | KotCzarny | now that would be a coll project :P |
| 00:26.08 | AStorm | and have protocol support in the kernel (should be already there) |
| 00:26.09 | KotCzarny | cool |
| 00:26.16 | AStorm | People have done it already ;> |
| 00:26.23 | zakmm | should internet call work fine for me .. over SIP ? |
| 00:26.28 | KotCzarny | astorm: link ? :) |
| 00:26.39 | zakmm | i saw a pic |
| 00:26.49 | zakmm | of someone who opened a nokia 770.. there was a miniSD adapter in it? |
| 00:26.55 | KotCzarny | hmm |
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| 00:26.58 | KotCzarny | then it's cool |
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| 00:27.00 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:27.09 | zakmm | it was on.. show me screenshots internettablettalk forum |
| 00:27.15 | zakmm | dont remember the page |
| 00:27.28 | zakmm | would internet call work for me? |
| 00:27.30 | KotCzarny | i have thought it has mmc reader only |
| 00:27.58 | AStorm | yes, it only has MMC |
| 00:28.04 | AStorm | you have to mod it to support SD too |
| 00:28.12 | AStorm | and no SDHC for you |
| 00:28.18 | zakmm | anyone wanna sell me a RS-MMC? :P |
| 00:28.44 | AStorm | shops will |
| 00:28.52 | AStorm | if you look well, you'll find it |
| 00:28.57 | zakmm | a local shop |
| 00:29.00 | zakmm | sells 1gb for $60 -l;- |
| 00:29.09 | AStorm | so what? ;P |
| 00:29.14 | AStorm | these are uncommon |
| 00:29.30 | AStorm | and MMC were always more expensive (due to "standarization") |
| 00:29.48 | zakmm | you can call peoples houses with google talk .. in internet call? |
| 00:29.54 | AStorm | yes |
| 00:30.06 | AStorm | but I'm not sure if SU-18 has enough CPU power |
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| 00:31.11 | KotCzarny | astorm: isn't sd--sdhc difference only in driver? |
| 00:31.20 | AStorm | no |
| 00:31.21 | KotCzarny | ie. software side ? |
| 00:31.22 | AStorm | in voltage |
| 00:31.37 | AStorm | it depends on how the hardware is designed |
| 00:31.47 | AStorm | sometimes just software, sometimes not |
| 00:31.54 | AStorm | needs to support lower voltage |
| 00:32.26 | KotCzarny | hmm, ie 3.3 vs 5v mmc? |
| 00:32.30 | AStorm | no |
| 00:32.36 | AStorm | SD is 3V |
| 00:32.44 | AStorm | SDHC is lower, encoded in the header |
| 00:32.55 | KotCzarny | i don't remember exactly |
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| 00:33.05 | KotCzarny | but i saw in dmesg 3.3v |
| 00:33.11 | KotCzarny | for my sdhc cards |
| 00:33.13 | AStorm | 3.0V |
| 00:33.18 | KotCzarny | let me check |
| 00:33.19 | AStorm | for your internal chip ;P |
| 00:33.26 | AStorm | which is normal SD |
| 00:33.38 | KotCzarny | no it's not |
| 00:33.40 | AStorm | my card grabs 2,7V |
| 00:33.41 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:33.47 | KotCzarny | i have n800 |
| 00:33.51 | AStorm | ahha |
| 00:33.56 | AStorm | so read dmesg |
| 00:34.47 | KotCzarny | 2.8 |
| 00:34.57 | KotCzarny | let's check other card |
| 00:35.19 | KotCzarny | 3v |
| 00:35.54 | AStorm | as I said, it's lower than 3V ;) |
| 00:35.59 | AStorm | might be 3V, depends |
| 00:36.06 | KotCzarny | both are sdhc |
| 00:36.18 | KotCzarny | one is bigger though |
| 00:36.33 | KotCzarny | [523786.632812] menelaus 1-0072: Setting voltage 'VMMC' to 3000 mV (reg 0x0a, val 0xb8) |
| 00:36.33 | KotCzarny | [523788.671875] menelaus 1-0072: Setting voltage 'VDCDC3' to 2800 mV (reg 0x07, val 0x29) |
| 00:37.19 | KotCzarny | i can't see messages about internal flash though |
| 00:37.20 | KotCzarny | hum |
| 00:37.22 | AStorm | VMMC is the internal afaicr |
| 00:37.28 | KotCzarny | e-e |
| 00:37.30 | AStorm | internal flash isn't regulated like that |
| 00:37.38 | KotCzarny | internal i mean onenand flash |
| 00:37.40 | AStorm | KotCzarny: VMMC is the internal MMC |
| 00:37.50 | AStorm | KotCzarny: that flash has no controllable voltage |
| 00:37.58 | AStorm | it's constant, I guess 3,3V |
| 00:38.13 | KotCzarny | maybe that's where i saw 3.3 |
| 00:38.14 | AStorm | most likely nothing uses 5V |
| 00:38.25 | AStorm | (as the cell is 3,7V for a reason ;P ) |
| 00:38.52 | KotCzarny | [ 1.523437] menelaus 1-0072: Setting voltage 'VDCDC3' to 3300 mV (reg 0x07, val 0x39) |
| 00:38.55 | KotCzarny | hrmpf. |
| 00:39.06 | KotCzarny | at the bootup it was 3.3 |
| 00:39.15 | KotCzarny | then went down to 2.8 |
| 00:39.17 | AStorm | yes |
| 00:39.19 | AStorm | in SD mode |
| 00:39.23 | AStorm | then it was set to SDHC |
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| 00:40.04 | zakmm | on the nokia |
| 00:40.15 | AStorm | feeling proud? ;P |
| 00:40.21 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:40.25 | zakmm | it asks for user and pw for my sip account.. voip username@ |
| 00:40.25 | zakmm | Registrar : sip.voipbuster.com |
| 00:40.32 | AStorm | correct |
| 00:40.37 | zakmm | so zakmm@sip.voipbuster.com? |
| 00:40.40 | zakmm | is username for sip ? |
| 00:40.47 | AStorm | just zakmm |
| 00:40.57 | zakmm | the internet call thingy |
| 00:40.58 | AStorm | btw, I suggest you install rtcomm beta if trying voice communication |
| 00:41.00 | zakmm | has a @ after username |
| 00:41.02 | AStorm | it supports STUN better |
| 00:41.09 | zakmm | is it less requirements? |
| 00:41.14 | AStorm | not much less |
| 00:41.22 | AStorm | SU-18 is just too slow ;P |
| 00:41.39 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 00:41.49 | KotCzarny | i think mtd config is done by the kernel |
| 00:41.51 | zakmm | i did calls on gizmo on 2006 just fine? |
| 00:41.51 | KotCzarny | not by nolo |
| 00:41.54 | zakmm | landline calls? |
| 00:42.08 | AStorm | KotCzarny: yes, by the kernel |
| 00:42.21 | AStorm | but voltage is constant |
| 00:42.23 | KotCzarny | so it should be fairly easy to create bigger kernel |
| 00:42.24 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:42.32 | unixSnob | STUN? |
| 00:42.44 | AStorm | unixSnob: GOOGLE, fscking use it |
| 00:42.46 | KotCzarny | unless nolo won't like it |
| 00:42.57 | AStorm | Nolo does broadcast partition table data |
| 00:43.02 | KotCzarny | prods unixsnob |
| 00:43.07 | AStorm | so you'd have to disable table parsing |
| 00:43.12 | zakmm | what is presense? |
| 00:43.30 | AStorm | zakmm: presence you mean? like status |
| 00:43.34 | KotCzarny | onenand is 1.8v |
| 00:43.36 | zakmm | i guess? |
| 00:43.40 | AStorm | KotCzarny: possible |
| 00:43.44 | zakmm | at top part near brightness |
| 00:43.46 | AStorm | there are many types of flash |
| 00:43.49 | zakmm | is something called presense? |
| 00:44.13 | AStorm | zakmm: it's the status selector |
| 00:44.19 | AStorm | if you're offline, away, etc. |
| 00:44.27 | AStorm | and the status message |
| 00:45.28 | zakmm | is there bluetooth on the nokia 770? |
| 00:45.35 | AStorm | should be |
| 00:45.48 | AStorm | wouldn't be much of an internet tablet w/o connection to cell phones |
| 00:45.54 | AStorm | yes, it has BT |
| 00:46.06 | zakmm | so should i have bluetooth on? |
| 00:46.11 | zakmm | i found the setting to turn it on |
| 00:46.14 | AStorm | you may have |
| 00:46.17 | AStorm | it eats power |
| 00:46.22 | AStorm | of course |
| 00:46.37 | zakmm | oh right |
| 00:46.48 | zakmm | can a pc with bluetooth recognize it? |
| 00:46.53 | AStorm | not nearly as much as wifi though |
| 00:46.55 | AStorm | yes, it can |
| 00:46.55 | zakmm | if pc has bluetooth? |
| 00:47.00 | zakmm | sick :D |
| 00:47.06 | AStorm | usually as OBEX file transfer service |
| 00:47.08 | KotCzarny | why sick? |
| 00:47.13 | KotCzarny | it's called technology |
| 00:47.13 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:47.15 | zakmm | lol |
| 00:47.16 | AStorm | but if you do it manually, you can use it as networking |
| 00:47.46 | zakmm | rather not, thanks |
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| 00:48.01 | zakmm | ah the 2008HE is wicked :D |
| 00:48.03 | zakmm | slow.. but wicked |
| 00:48.53 | smackpotato | is that for 770 |
| 00:48.54 | AStorm | nah, the tablets are just great |
| 00:48.58 | AStorm | smackpotato: yes |
| 00:48.59 | zakmm | yeah |
| 00:49.01 | zakmm | im on a nokia 770 now |
| 00:49.05 | zakmm | i installed 2008HE today on it |
| 00:49.16 | smackpotato | cool |
| 00:49.24 | zakmm | smackpotato: you have a nokia 770? |
| 00:50.10 | smackpotato | my 770 is just lying aroune since i got my 810 |
| 00:50.14 | zakmm | lol |
| 00:50.20 | zakmm | wanna sell me it? a friend wants |
| 00:50.25 | zakmm | he looked at mine hes like i wanttt |
| 00:50.30 | zakmm | and another friend is geting a nokia 800 :P |
| 00:50.35 | AStorm | yeah, N810 is so much better |
| 00:50.38 | AStorm | N800 is also |
| 00:50.46 | smackpotato | i think its going to my neice |
| 00:50.47 | AStorm | 770 just doesn't have enough power |
| 00:50.54 | AStorm | smackpotato: :-) |
| 00:50.56 | zakmm | we're 16/17 years old |
| 00:50.59 | zakmm | not much cash :P |
| 00:51.14 | zakmm | ok what was that ifconfig wlan0 renew? or something |
| 00:51.23 | smackpotato | im an old man |
| 00:51.28 | AStorm | zakmm: no |
| 00:51.34 | AStorm | you do that with udhcpcd |
| 00:51.39 | AStorm | read up on that |
| 00:51.44 | AStorm | (or just reconnect) |
| 00:51.55 | AStorm | smackpotato: yeah, like, 80? ;P |
| 00:52.04 | zakmm | i reconnected like6 times |
| 00:52.05 | zakmm | no luck |
| 00:52.15 | smackpotato | 50 anyway |
| 00:52.16 | KotCzarny | just get that wifi router up |
| 00:52.25 | zakmm | mine? |
| 00:52.27 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 00:52.28 | zakmm | what time is it .. EST |
| 00:52.32 | AStorm | smackpotato: that's not old enough |
| 00:52.35 | AStorm | ;P |
| 00:52.37 | zakmm | my clock on pc says Dec 2001 lol |
| 00:52.51 | AStorm | it's 01:53 UTC |
| 00:52.55 | AStorm | almost |
| 00:52.59 | zakmm | how come |
| 00:53.04 | zakmm | it says "data is being transferred" |
| 00:53.11 | AStorm | correct |
| 00:53.11 | zakmm | and shows kbyte/s for send and recieve |
| 00:53.19 | zakmm | but i dont get any like internet ? |
| 00:53.19 | AStorm | so it somewhat works |
| 00:53.25 | zakmm | yeah but nothing works for me |
| 00:53.30 | AStorm | does ping 80.53.32.122 work? |
| 00:53.33 | zakmm | its requesting and geting back nothing lol |
| 00:53.36 | zakmm | onesec |
| 00:53.56 | AStorm | should print timings |
| 00:54.07 | zakmm | i know what ping does :D lol |
| 00:54.09 | AStorm | note, these are dots ;P |
| 00:54.16 | AStorm | it's easy to mistype |
| 00:54.42 | KotCzarny | it would scream about dns then |
| 00:54.53 | AStorm | yep |
| 00:54.59 | zakmm | i get 1 line |
| 00:55.00 | AStorm | or not, it's busybox |
| 00:55.04 | zakmm | and then the terminal is loading? |
| 00:55.09 | AStorm | zakmm: ok, so your route is incorrect |
| 00:55.16 | AStorm | check netstat -r |
| 00:55.55 | zakmm | gateway 192.168.10.1 genmask 0.0.0.0 flags UG ? |
| 00:56.09 | AStorm | that's not enough |
| 00:56.15 | zakmm | and then |
| 00:56.18 | zakmm | theres iface? |
| 00:56.26 | AStorm | ok, so default route works |
| 00:56.29 | zakmm | 192.168.10.0 * 255.255.255.0 U |
| 00:56.31 | zakmm | above it |
| 00:56.32 | AStorm | try pinging the gateway |
| 00:56.39 | zakmm | hah sorry i aws searching for what i thought you wanted |
| 00:56.40 | AStorm | ping 192.168.10.1 ofc |
| 00:57.06 | zakmm | 64bytes from ... |
| 00:57.07 | zakmm | time 3.1ms |
| 00:57.09 | zakmm | alot |
| 00:57.22 | zakmm | stop it |
| 00:57.26 | AStorm | ok |
| 00:57.35 | zakmm | 20 packets transmitted, 19 packets recieved, 5% packet loss |
| 00:57.36 | AStorm | so gateway works, but doesn't route packets for you |
| 00:57.43 | AStorm | is it yours? |
| 00:57.45 | zakmm | im guesing cause i did ctrl +c while one was going |
| 00:57.48 | zakmm | no |
| 00:57.48 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 00:57.49 | zakmm | its neighbors |
| 00:57.51 | zakmm | lol |
| 00:58.08 | zakmm | is it them ? |
| 00:58.08 | AStorm | ok, probably they have routing disabled, or route only some ips |
| 00:58.08 | KotCzarny | that's why i'm telling him to get his router from the closet |
| 00:58.12 | lcuk | Gerrof my lawn, you sheeky kids! |
| 00:58.20 | zakmm | can i do manual ip? |
| 00:58.23 | zakmm | would that work? |
| 00:58.29 | KotCzarny | maybe |
| 00:58.32 | AStorm | zakmm: you don''t know enough to do that ;P |
| 00:58.32 | zakmm | yeah but someones downstairs using net |
| 00:58.38 | zakmm | and changing requires like unplugging lol |
| 00:58.44 | zakmm | yeah i do just tell me |
| 00:58.45 | zakmm | lol |
| 00:58.58 | AStorm | you'd need kismet or similar, which you don't have (it's crashy on IT anyway) |
| 00:59.14 | zakmm | in connections when you select one |
| 00:59.17 | zakmm | you can edit the saved ones |
| 00:59.20 | zakmm | and do manual ip? |
| 00:59.22 | zakmm | and DNS |
| 00:59.25 | zakmm | and then proxy and all |
| 00:59.29 | KotCzarny | yes |
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| 01:01.03 | AStorm | zakmm: you'll fail anyway ;P |
| 01:01.59 | AStorm | you must have a degree of knowledge of the network |
| 01:02.04 | unixSnob | thinks even a novice can handle a manual IP |
| 01:02.14 | AStorm | unixSnob: but not guess the right, routed IPs |
| 01:02.15 | AStorm | ;P |
| 01:02.22 | AStorm | unless it's 192.168.10.2 |
| 01:02.23 | KotCzarny | well |
| 01:02.23 | AStorm | ;P |
| 01:02.26 | KotCzarny | that's 256 tries |
| 01:02.27 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 01:02.38 | KotCzarny | and i think 10.1 is the right on |
| 01:02.43 | KotCzarny | only ignoring his ip |
| 01:02.46 | AStorm | I'd use arp personally |
| 01:02.56 | KotCzarny | i'd use nmap |
| 01:02.58 | zakmm | ok |
| 01:03.03 | zakmm | setting up the wireless in my room |
| 01:03.04 | AStorm | KotCzarny: not good enough |
| 01:03.11 | AStorm | firewall will throw these away |
| 01:03.18 | AStorm | while arp are broadcast correctly |
| 01:03.21 | zakmm | i broung the wireless router to my room |
| 01:03.26 | AStorm | and display present machines |
| 01:03.27 | AStorm | :> |
| 01:03.36 | unixSnob | I don't think it's common for folks to constraint to a range of IPs.. usually I can get away with just getting in the subnet |
| 01:03.45 | KotCzarny | i usually use -p 80 for scanning |
| 01:03.46 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 01:03.47 | unixSnob | s/constraint/constrain/ |
| 01:04.55 | AStorm | unixSnob: sometimes, yes |
| 01:05.02 | AStorm | but in this case, seemingly not |
| 01:05.20 | AStorm | more evil is DHCP on MAC ;) |
| 01:05.29 | zakmm | ill be back .. have to kill internet to use wireless ( changing routers ) |
| 01:05.32 | AStorm | (unless you can get ARP ;P ) |
| 01:05.52 | KotCzarny | poor internet.. |
| 01:06.02 | KotCzarny | are we gonna die too? |
| 01:06.12 | AStorm | no |
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| 01:06.21 | AStorm | but it's not internet if you cannot connect |
| 01:06.26 | AStorm | it's intranet ;P |
| 01:06.37 | AStorm | or even shadownet ;P |
| 01:06.41 | KotCzarny | with intranet you can connect too |
| 01:06.51 | KotCzarny | to a limited group though |
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| 01:21.33 | zakmm | ok i got wifi and net works on it :D |
| 01:21.41 | zakmm | my own wireless internet... |
| 01:21.58 | KotCzarny | don't forget to lower txpower on it |
| 01:22.04 | KotCzarny | (on router) |
| 01:22.09 | zakmm | uhm |
| 01:22.14 | zakmm | 2.4ghz its at? or something |
| 01:22.23 | KotCzarny | not freq |
| 01:22.27 | KotCzarny | but tx power |
| 01:22.29 | zakmm | WPA2 - password'd? |
| 01:22.37 | KotCzarny | wpa2 could do too |
| 01:22.47 | zakmm | thats what its at |
| 01:22.58 | zakmm | now i have to do repos |
| 01:23.08 | zakmm | there was skype in the application manager? i thought it wouldnt work? |
| 01:23.26 | KotCzarny | don't run out of disk space |
| 01:23.28 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 01:23.32 | zakmm | and zmartell@sip.voipbuster.com didnt work? |
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| 01:23.44 | zakmm | http://www.voipbuster.com/en/sipp.html |
| 01:25.04 | zakmm | im at that page with all the repos on my nokia and when i click click to install nothing happens |
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| 01:31.31 | Grackle | How can I convince my N800 to mount the memory card somewhere else? |
| 01:31.41 | KotCzarny | edit mmc-mount script |
| 01:31.53 | Grackle | I've made an entry in /etc/fstab, but it still gets m... |
| 01:31.53 | KotCzarny | or just make a symlink |
| 01:31.54 | Grackle | ah ok |
| 01:32.11 | KotCzarny | some things in os depend on /media/mmc{1,2} |
| 01:32.30 | Grackle | Oh, I was asking about that earlier. Hmm. |
| 01:32.37 | zakmm | is canola 2.0.0~beta1~maemo.1 old? |
| 01:33.36 | Navi | Yeah |
| 01:34.19 | zakmm | thanks |
| 01:34.22 | zakmm | its downloading awfully slow |
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| 01:35.09 | ralann | is there a macosx flasher tool? |
| 01:35.44 | ralann | i saw a page about one but it had no links to the flasher it talked about |
| 01:36.00 | GAN8001 | http://www.internettablettalk.com/wiki/index.php?title=Flashing_OS2008_With_Mac_OS_X_%28Console%29 |
| 01:36.12 | ralann | thx |
| 01:36.20 | GAN8001 | step 5 has the link |
| 01:36.24 | ralann | i missed that in my lookings |
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| 01:38.48 | zakmm | smart :D |
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| 01:43.09 | ralann | thx that looks easy |
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| 01:45.17 | zakmm | how come my nokia rebooted when i installed skype? |
| 01:46.17 | KotCzarny | out of mem? |
| 01:46.21 | KotCzarny | watchdog? |
| 01:48.08 | zakmm | oh probably |
| 01:48.11 | zakmm | it restarted |
| 01:48.15 | zakmm | and skype is loggin |
| 01:48.19 | zakmm | yeah skype works? |
| 01:48.22 | zakmm | im logged in |
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| 01:51.53 | zakmm | when i call on skype .. how come i get a "skype recording error" msg |
| 01:52.12 | KotCzarny | no codec? |
| 01:52.15 | KotCzarny | no sound device? |
| 01:52.25 | KotCzarny | google |
| 01:52.28 | zakmm | how would i go about and install? |
| 01:52.30 | zakmm | noo |
| 01:52.32 | zakmm | on the nokia |
| 01:52.34 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 01:52.37 | zakmm | i installed skype . .it logs in |
| 01:52.41 | zakmm | but when i call .. i get that error |
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| 02:06.51 | lopz | hola |
| 02:06.58 | KotCzarny | ola |
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| 02:11.28 | zakmm | "no common codec" from skype? |
| 02:11.51 | KotCzarny | i have heard it today in this chan |
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| 02:47.39 | zakmm | how come sometimes the web is so smooth and others its like a crawl? |
| 02:48.15 | KotCzarny | swapping |
| 02:48.19 | KotCzarny | and low memory |
| 02:48.25 | KotCzarny | maybe some broken js too |
| 02:48.52 | zakmm | only browser is running |
| 02:48.57 | KotCzarny | so what? |
| 02:48.58 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 02:49.01 | zakmm | it was its own google.. how much js can there be |
| 02:49.07 | KotCzarny | browser is hungry |
| 02:49.15 | KotCzarny | cache? |
| 02:49.40 | zakmm | what do i set it to? |
| 02:49.48 | zakmm | its at 1024 |
| 02:49.57 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 02:50.00 | KotCzarny | don't know |
| 02:50.03 | KotCzarny | just guessing |
| 02:50.05 | zakmm | 4096? |
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| 02:53.46 | zakmm | is there something like top for it? |
| 02:53.50 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 02:53.51 | zakmm | system monitor. |
| 02:54.04 | KotCzarny | try: top |
| 02:54.06 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 02:54.31 | zakmm | maemo launcher takes 35.9% cpu and Xomap takes 20.7% cpu? |
| 02:54.35 | zakmm | ahh memory usage* |
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| 03:50.15 | zakmm | how come audio playback on any player on the 2008HE wont play smooth and like totally freezes the program? |
| 03:50.36 | zakmm | well freezes my nokia too |
| 03:50.47 | KotCzarny | because they probably use the same slave? |
| 03:53.53 | zakmm | is the audio codec's messed or something |
| 03:53.58 | zakmm | gstreamer i believe isnt it? |
| 03:54.07 | KotCzarny | don't know |
| 03:54.07 | zakmm | can i install different ? |
| 03:54.10 | KotCzarny | try itt |
| 03:54.21 | KotCzarny | (internettablettalk.com or .org don't remember) |
| 03:54.43 | zakmm | im there alot .. never seen a topic/post on it though |
| 03:54.55 | KotCzarny | yet |
| 03:54.58 | zakmm | oh |
| 03:55.01 | zakmm | is there xpdf? |
| 03:55.21 | KotCzarny | probably |
| 03:55.35 | KotCzarny | i would suggest you grabbing sdk |
| 03:55.47 | zakmm | im trying to run canola .. but it wont open when i click on it |
| 03:56.06 | zakmm | how hard is it to compile for 2008HE? |
| 03:56.06 | KotCzarny | try running from xterm |
| 03:56.19 | KotCzarny | have you ever compiled on linux? |
| 03:56.45 | zakmm | the usual autogen.sh ./configure make make install? |
| 03:56.51 | KotCzarny | something like this |
| 03:56.53 | zakmm | and possibly some use flags after ./configure |
| 03:56.57 | KotCzarny | but in scratchbox |
| 03:56.58 | zakmm | depending the app |
| 03:57.19 | KotCzarny | are you familiar with debian? |
| 03:57.26 | KotCzarny | or .debs in general? |
| 03:57.36 | zakmm | i use.. never really made? |
| 03:57.45 | zakmm | dpkg -i or something? |
| 03:57.51 | KotCzarny | it's for installing |
| 03:57.59 | zakmm | i know what they are |
| 03:58.01 | zakmm | ;p |
| 03:58.11 | KotCzarny | all of them? |
| 03:58.20 | zakmm | deb's? |
| 03:58.24 | KotCzarny | commands |
| 03:58.24 | zakmm | all of them ? |
| 03:58.28 | zakmm | oh |
| 03:58.32 | zakmm | pretty familar? |
| 03:58.40 | zakmm | dont have much of a memory myself. |
| 03:58.48 | KotCzarny | then you should know about fakeroot dpkg-buildroot then |
| 03:58.51 | zakmm | when i do canola i get Illegal instruction -.- |
| 03:59.10 | KotCzarny | well, then canola guys compiled it for n8x0 cpu, unfortunatelly |
| 03:59.19 | zakmm | dang |
| 03:59.21 | zakmm | oh well |
| 03:59.26 | zakmm | at least i know its not my nokia :D |
| 03:59.33 | zakmm | well it is but i mean mine specifically |
| 03:59.55 | KotCzarny | yeah, diff. cpu |
| 04:00.20 | zakmm | i start a app and then it opens like 1-2 min later ? |
| 04:00.28 | zakmm | except like terminal |
| 04:00.34 | KotCzarny | low memory |
| 04:00.41 | zakmm | i gave swap? |
| 04:00.44 | KotCzarny | run ubuntu on 64mb |
| 04:00.51 | KotCzarny | see how well it goes |
| 04:00.52 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:01.05 | KotCzarny | with browser etc |
| 04:01.43 | zakmm | lol |
| 04:01.46 | zakmm | gnome .. yeah right -.- |
| 04:01.50 | zakmm | gnome is so bloated |
| 04:01.57 | KotCzarny | swap is ~10-20x slower than regular hdd |
| 04:02.00 | zakmm | i wouldnt try any buntu's .. there so slow |
| 04:02.04 | zakmm | its not a harddrive though |
| 04:02.07 | zakmm | its a flash card |
| 04:02.09 | zakmm | -.- |
| 04:02.18 | KotCzarny | system sees it as a block device |
| 04:02.23 | KotCzarny | system doesn't care |
| 04:02.30 | zakmm | so what its like underclocked? |
| 04:02.41 | KotCzarny | just slow |
| 04:02.52 | KotCzarny | i think you can try looking for fanoush page |
| 04:02.55 | KotCzarny | it has some hacks |
| 04:03.03 | KotCzarny | for 770 too |
| 04:03.11 | zakmm | to help my speed? :D |
| 04:03.28 | KotCzarny | don't know |
| 04:03.30 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:03.41 | zakmm | xournal is lagging |
| 04:03.46 | KotCzarny | i know that my head is going to kill me |
| 04:03.52 | zakmm | ? |
| 04:03.56 | KotCzarny | hurts |
| 04:04.04 | zakmm | see a doctor? |
| 04:04.10 | KotCzarny | nah |
| 04:04.23 | KotCzarny | i'll be dead soon if i did |
| 04:04.30 | zakmm | ? |
| 04:04.38 | KotCzarny | don't like doctors |
| 04:04.58 | zakmm | why? |
| 04:05.06 | zakmm | omg it restarted |
| 04:05.16 | zakmm | i have so much swap though.. why is it out of mem? |
| 04:05.31 | KotCzarny | because 64+32 isn't quite enough? |
| 04:05.37 | KotCzarny | n8x0 has 128mb of ram |
| 04:05.45 | zakmm | ah |
| 04:05.48 | zakmm | how much does ur have |
| 04:05.49 | zakmm | with swap |
| 04:06.00 | KotCzarny | 128 |
| 04:06.10 | zakmm | how does 2007HE look? |
| 04:06.10 | KotCzarny | i turn on swap if i know i will run memory hog app |
| 04:06.13 | zakmm | does it look like 2008? |
| 04:06.16 | KotCzarny | don't know |
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| 04:06.21 | KotCzarny | i have seen only os2008 |
| 04:06.50 | zakmm | i can make more swap .. delete stuff on my mem card? |
| 04:07.19 | KotCzarny | don't know |
| 04:08.23 | zakmm | what is maemo application launcher |
| 04:08.30 | zakmm | it takes like 65% mem usage |
| 04:08.31 | KotCzarny | hum? |
| 04:08.53 | zakmm | i ran "top" in xterm |
| 04:09.08 | Proteous | the max swap you can enable by default on a 770 is 64mb |
| 04:09.09 | KotCzarny | numbers in top aren't exactly what you think they are |
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| 04:09.32 | Proteous | "numbers in top may be closer then they appear" |
| 04:09.50 | KotCzarny | prot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proteus_syndrome |
| 04:09.51 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 04:10.33 | Proteous | now you know why I haven't posted any pictures of myself!!! |
| 04:10.34 | Proteous | heh |
| 04:10.42 | Proteous | luckly I don't spell my name that way :p |
| 04:10.59 | KotCzarny | you mean, your ersion has a typo? |
| 04:11.00 | KotCzarny | :P |
| 04:11.20 | Proteous | must be because of my overgrown hands |
| 04:11.23 | zakmm | only a few more than 200 cases have been confirmed worldwide, with estimates that about 120 people are currently alive with the condition |
| 04:11.39 | Proteous | I make millions by letting scientists study me |
| 04:11.44 | Proteous | muhahahahahaa |
| 04:11.46 | Proteous | *cough* |
| 04:11.48 | KotCzarny | in dark times they were called 'freaks of nature' |
| 04:12.06 | zakmm | sad |
| 04:12.12 | Proteous | "Merrick himself died when the weight of his head dislocated his neck while asleep." |
| 04:12.16 | Proteous | !!! |
| 04:12.20 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:12.50 | KotCzarny | yup, evolution hates some people |
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| 04:14.27 | zakmm | whats "Maemo launcher" |
| 04:14.39 | KotCzarny | probably some 'acceleration app' |
| 04:14.41 | zakmm | ahh i really like 2008HE UI :( |
| 04:14.55 | zakmm | it takes 65% mem usage.. maemo launcher |
| 04:15.02 | KotCzarny | but in low mem condition it may slow everything down |
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| 04:15.16 | KotCzarny | look for a way to disable it |
| 04:15.16 | zakmm | ? |
| 04:15.27 | zakmm | killall maemo-launcher? :D |
| 04:15.28 | johnx | the version of top on the tablets lies |
| 04:15.37 | johnx | ...about mem usage |
| 04:15.59 | zakmm | terrible vesion then |
| 04:16.01 | zakmm | hi johnx :D |
| 04:16.02 | zakmm | remember me |
| 04:16.20 | johnx | yeah |
| 04:16.28 | zakmm | i got 2008HE going |
| 04:16.30 | zakmm | but its so slow :( |
| 04:16.33 | johnx | awesome |
| 04:16.37 | johnx | not so awesome |
| 04:17.06 | zakmm | KotCzarny: killing it restarted the nokia |
| 04:17.10 | KotCzarny | i know |
| 04:17.11 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:17.13 | zakmm | johnx: know any speedups i could do ? |
| 04:17.24 | zakmm | my main problem is running nothing but xterm = 97% mem usage |
| 04:17.26 | johnx | kill off metalayer-crawler |
| 04:17.27 | KotCzarny | that's why i have said 'disabling' and not 'killing' |
| 04:17.32 | zakmm | i did that already |
| 04:17.32 | johnx | turn on some swap |
| 04:17.42 | zakmm | i did 32mb? |
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| 04:17.54 | zakmm | i know its not alot :( but i cant do much more |
| 04:18.01 | zakmm | would like 48mb help more? |
| 04:18.17 | johnx | type free |
| 04:18.23 | zakmm | yeah |
| 04:18.23 | johnx | see what the swap usage is |
| 04:18.27 | zakmm | it uses 97% with just xterm |
| 04:18.35 | johnx | of swap? |
| 04:18.40 | zakmm | no |
| 04:18.42 | zakmm | of normal system |
| 04:18.50 | johnx | how much is cached? |
| 04:18.55 | zakmm | onsec |
| 04:19.27 | zakmm | it doesnt show cached? |
| 04:19.34 | zakmm | it stops at share? |
| 04:19.37 | johnx | it should, either in free or top |
| 04:19.54 | KotCzarny | paste results of 'free' on pastebin.com |
| 04:19.54 | zakmm | top says |
| 04:19.57 | zakmm | 21952k cached |
| 04:19.59 | KotCzarny | and give us link |
| 04:20.00 | zakmm | 60644k used |
| 04:20.04 | zakmm | 1580k free |
| 04:20.17 | zakmm | how? its on my nokia? |
| 04:20.31 | KotCzarny | pastebin.com is a website |
| 04:20.36 | zakmm | i know |
| 04:20.40 | zakmm | but you want me to retype what i see? |
| 04:20.52 | johnx | ssh in? or hilight it in xterm and open up the browser? |
| 04:20.59 | KotCzarny | i think you can copy and paste? |
| 04:21.07 | zakmm | lol johnx: you dont understand how long browser takes to open |
| 04:21.17 | zakmm | dont have ssh |
| 04:21.22 | zakmm | cant ssh a windows pc can you? |
| 04:21.27 | johnx | putty |
| 04:21.31 | zakmm | should i download rdesktop? |
| 04:21.35 | zakmm | i saw it in the repo |
| 04:21.45 | johnx | anyways, in top, how much does it say is cached |
| 04:21.49 | johnx | that's the only number I want :) |
| 04:21.54 | zakmm | 21952k .. out of 60644k used |
| 04:22.07 | johnx | so 21952k caches |
| 04:22.17 | johnx | s/s/d |
| 04:22.27 | zakmm | ? |
| 04:22.28 | johnx | anyways, that's not too bad really |
| 04:22.38 | KotCzarny | on an idle os |
| 04:22.40 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:22.49 | KotCzarny | starting anything eats ram fast |
| 04:22.58 | johnx | oh definitely |
| 04:23.35 | zakmm | like now |
| 04:23.38 | zakmm | xournal just froze on me |
| 04:23.44 | zakmm | only app running |
| 04:24.05 | zakmm | and my battery like died |
| 04:24.48 | GAN8001 | You need at least 64MB of swap in OS2008HE |
| 04:25.03 | GAN8001 | Remember, OS2008 is designed for a device with 128MB of physical RAM |
| 04:25.44 | zakmm | i only have the 64mb card |
| 04:26.16 | zakmm | should i go back to 2006/07 .. wait till i get a 1gb card.. come back .. add swap |
| 04:26.21 | zakmm | and it will be alot better? |
| 04:26.28 | KotCzarny | a little better |
| 04:26.29 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 04:26.54 | zakmm | i love 2008HE |
| 04:27.22 | Proteous | 2008HE hates you though |
| 04:27.34 | Proteous | a match made in the internets |
| 04:27.53 | zakmm | lol |
| 04:39.50 | zakmm | why doesnt the browser have a webkit engine? |
| 04:40.03 | KotCzarny | ..yet |
| 04:40.23 | KotCzarny | some people managed to run webkit based thingie |
| 04:40.40 | zakmm | it seems like it would be faster like launching and all |
| 04:40.43 | zakmm | lower footprint? |
| 04:40.46 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 04:40.52 | KotCzarny | and running too |
| 04:41.06 | zakmm | nothing in the making? |
| 04:41.24 | KotCzarny | itt has most of the news |
| 04:42.02 | johnx | midori is nice on the n800 |
| 04:42.21 | johnx | it's supposedly not much faster than microb (builtin browser) on the 770 though |
| 04:42.32 | johnx | it's definitely worth a shot |
| 04:43.52 | zakmm | i figure ill try low apps lol |
| 04:43.56 | zakmm | but keep the 2008HE |
| 04:44.14 | zakmm | learn to compile and do like xpdf and stuff |
| 04:44.16 | KotCzarny | wanna links2 browser? |
| 04:44.17 | zakmm | links -g |
| 04:44.17 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:44.30 | zakmm | links2.1pre33 |
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| 04:45.21 | Proteous | bah, wget and cat is good enough for anyone |
| 04:45.54 | johnx | wget? bah! |
| 04:45.58 | johnx | I telnet to port 80 |
| 04:46.05 | zakmm | lol |
| 04:46.05 | Proteous | sometimes that's even a bit much, telneting to port 80 is calming |
| 04:46.09 | Proteous | :P |
| 04:46.20 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 04:46.22 | zakmm | i cant download :P |
| 04:46.25 | zakmm | not enough space |
| 04:46.36 | Proteous | you might have to get rid of some of the pr0n then |
| 04:46.38 | Proteous | or just give up |
| 04:46.43 | zakmm | lol |
| 04:47.03 | zakmm | im going to bed |
| 04:47.15 | KotCzarny | don't want that links2 binary? |
| 04:47.15 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:47.20 | zakmm | you have it? |
| 04:47.24 | KotCzarny | compiling |
| 04:47.25 | zakmm | i got school in like 6-7 hours |
| 04:47.32 | zakmm | your compiling it now? |
| 04:47.40 | KotCzarny | 2.3megs |
| 04:47.44 | KotCzarny | have that much space? |
| 04:47.45 | zakmm | too much lol |
| 04:47.49 | zakmm | dont think so |
| 04:47.54 | zakmm | well on memory i do .. but i have to install |
| 04:47.57 | zakmm | device doesnt. |
| 04:48.07 | KotCzarny | remove something :) |
| 04:48.07 | zakmm | installed too much to try stuff lol |
| 04:48.10 | zakmm | evince is wicked :D |
| 04:48.16 | zakmm | evince 2.21.7 |
| 04:48.24 | zakmm | couldnt even do 2.22 stable -.- |
| 04:48.44 | zakmm | mess with useflags.. take out stuff you dont want :D |
| 04:49.07 | zakmm | add ssl and graphics to links :P |
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| 04:49.31 | KotCzarny | mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/binaries/links770.gz |
| 04:49.32 | zakmm | hey is claws mail / sylpheed any good for the nokia? |
| 04:49.49 | zakmm | would that work for me? |
| 04:50.53 | KotCzarny | use wget to get it |
| 04:50.59 | KotCzarny | gzip -d to unpack |
| 04:51.06 | KotCzarny | and chmod +x to make it runnable |
| 04:51.37 | zakmm | wont download.. ( on my pc ) |
| 04:51.44 | KotCzarny | typo? |
| 04:51.56 | zakmm | i copy pasted? |
| 04:51.59 | zakmm | ;p |
| 04:52.08 | zakmm | mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/binaries/links770.gz |
| 04:52.33 | KotCzarny | if you use ie add http:// |
| 04:52.44 | zakmm | i use opera 9.50 beta 2 |
| 04:52.49 | zakmm | came out last week :P |
| 04:52.51 | zakmm | so awesome |
| 04:53.06 | KotCzarny | also make sure your firewall/av doesn't block |
| 04:53.16 | zakmm | who says i have one? :P |
| 04:53.55 | KotCzarny | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK |
| 04:53.55 | KotCzarny | Length: 1,698,807 (1.6M) [text/plain] |
| 04:53.59 | KotCzarny | i say |
| 04:54.06 | KotCzarny | because works for me |
| 04:54.08 | zakmm | your connecting to yourself |
| 04:54.08 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:54.10 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 04:54.10 | zakmm | of course its going to work |
| 04:54.17 | KotCzarny | i have tried from a shell account |
| 04:54.20 | KotCzarny | somewhere in the world |
| 04:54.22 | zakmm | for all i know you localhost'd that |
| 04:54.25 | zakmm | really |
| 04:54.27 | zakmm | how'd you get it? :D |
| 04:54.29 | KotCzarny | Resolving mrrau.dyndns.org... 68.162.32.101 |
| 04:54.34 | zakmm | i want :D |
| 04:54.38 | KotCzarny | so it's not local |
| 04:55.09 | KotCzarny | make friends with some admins |
| 04:55.09 | KotCzarny | then just ask nicely for an account |
| 04:55.10 | johnx | it "works for me" |
| 04:56.39 | KotCzarny | maybe i should have added .exe to it |
| 04:56.41 | KotCzarny | for opera/ie |
| 04:56.42 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:57.34 | zakmm | how come 2008 is sucking so much battery? |
| 04:57.56 | KotCzarny | maybe some background process |
| 04:58.10 | KotCzarny | but i would bet on low memory and constant swapping/rereading |
| 04:58.37 | zakmm | it died in like 3 hrs |
| 04:58.41 | zakmm | frm full to like dead |
| 04:58.56 | zakmm | and i have brightness on like the lowest |
| 04:59.03 | KotCzarny | and wifi on |
| 04:59.09 | KotCzarny | and you were using it |
| 04:59.10 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:59.16 | johnx | hmm...they probably didn't spend as much time tuning the power savings also |
| 04:59.17 | zakmm | bbefore i flashed .. in 2006 i had like 2 days with it before battery started going down |
| 04:59.42 | KotCzarny | my bet is on low memory though |
| 04:59.44 | zakmm | johnx: do you know why audio freezes my nokia? |
| 04:59.49 | zakmm | audio playback in any player |
| 05:00.01 | johnx | on the 770 in os2008he? no idea... |
| 05:00.07 | johnx | has an n800 |
| 05:01.33 | lopz | night |
| 05:02.11 | johnx | 'night |
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| 05:16.51 | RST38h | *yawn* |
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| 05:24.53 | Cptnodegard | gotta love the pure retardness of gizmodo articles |
| 05:25.00 | Cptnodegard | Spotted at Buy.com with an MSRP of $479. Still not sure how this thing is going to work on WiMAX when no one has WiMAX and also, not many people use these tablets. |
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| 05:25.19 | johnx | yeah, just read that, too |
| 05:25.28 | johnx | my comment is waiting in their queue I guess |
| 05:25.53 | Cptnodegard | i think they disabled commenting for me because i called them retards a few times |
| 05:26.29 | johnx | so I guess this is as good a place to ask as any: Does anyone know if clearwire in the US will actually work with an off-the-shelf wimax card that supports their frequency? |
| 05:28.36 | johnx | in other words, will the n810 wimax work with clearwire? |
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| 07:09.09 | X-Fade | Morning. |
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| 07:44.53 | Khertan_TheReal | Hi ! |
| 07:45.30 | Khertan_TheReal | what do u think of a web site like this one : http://khertan.net/motion ? |
| 07:50.27 | X-Fade | Khertan_TheReal: Looks nice on my PC, but it is a slideshow on the tablet ;) |
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| 07:53.58 | BugBlauw | re |
| 07:54.02 | nomis | hum. How does one implement transparency in a home applet? |
| 07:54.37 | X-Fade | nomis: By using a transparant image as background, I believe. |
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| 07:56.26 | nomis | X-Fade: I tried just connecting to the expose event of the HildonDesktopHomeItem() and using cairo to draw on it, and it gives me an opaque background. |
| 07:56.37 | nomis | i.e. I don't even have a custom widget in it. |
| 07:56.47 | X-Fade | nomis: I think this thread will help you: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=151583 |
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| 07:59.26 | nomis | ok, that looks quite involved. |
| 08:00.11 | nomis | X-Fade: thanks. Will have to meditate about that. |
| 08:01.37 | X-Fade | nomis: Khertan_TheReal's applets are transparant too, so you might want to look at the code. |
| 08:04.14 | nomis | mhm, I kind of expected a utility function to hide that Xrender-stuff. |
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| 08:24.40 | Grackle | I recall reading about a problem wherein removal of a USB keyboard on the N800 does not reactivate the onscreen keyboard. I am experiencing that problem.. Is there a solution? |
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| 08:29.00 | AStorm | hmm, I think I'll use eCryptFS and probably easycrypt for my encryption needs (after making easycrypt more powerful) |
| 08:29.52 | AStorm | it's light and easy to configure |
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| 08:33.29 | X-Fade | AStorm: Did you see this: http://pavelmachek.livejournal.com/57718.html |
| 08:33.40 | X-Fade | A 1 AA charger ;) |
| 08:33.54 | AStorm | I know it's possible |
| 08:34.01 | AStorm | but wasteful - low efficiency |
| 08:34.13 | AStorm | 2 AA are better |
| 08:34.59 | AStorm | ah, no |
| 08:35.04 | AStorm | it won't have enough current |
| 08:35.17 | X-Fade | http://cgi.ebay.com/AA-Battery-Charger-for-Mobiles-Phones-Nokia-Sony-Moto_W0QQitemZ180235900924QQihZ008QQcategoryZ20336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 08:35.19 | AStorm | too wimpy for Nokia, might be tight for some cellphones too |
| 08:36.31 | Khertan_TheReal | nomis> take a look at the source code of my applet ... it s in python |
| 08:37.00 | nomis | Khertan_TheReal: doing that already. |
| 08:37.01 | nomis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:45.31 | nomis | Khertan_TheReal: yay, it works. |
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| 08:58.48 | X-Fade | nomis: What kind of applet are your creating? |
| 09:00.04 | nomis | X-Fade: just porting my "Bahnhofsuhr" clock to every possible medium :) |
| 09:00.15 | X-Fade | Ah ;) |
| 09:00.17 | nomis | X-Fade: see http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/files/bahnhofsuhr.html with an SVG and Javascript enabled browser. |
| 09:01.36 | nomis | (I am pondering to sneak it into the next statusbarclock release) |
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| 09:22.33 | AStorm | nomis: SVG would be too slow |
| 09:22.47 | lardman | not if we had acceleration..... |
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| 09:23.10 | AStorm | yep, then not |
| 09:24.09 | nomis | AStorm: it is implemented in C, using cairo. |
| 09:24.20 | nomis | (the bahnhofsuhr on the N810) |
| 09:24.22 | AStorm | unaccelerated Cairo |
| 09:24.26 | AStorm | which is still slow |
| 09:24.28 | AStorm | ;> |
| 09:24.45 | X-Fade_ | AStorm: I don't think he wants to do 100FPS ;) |
| 09:24.46 | nomis | true, it updates once a minute, which is fast enough :) |
| 09:25.10 | AStorm | yep |
| 09:25.17 | AStorm | but CPU usage is still important |
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| 09:25.24 | AStorm | more CPU used = less battery |
| 09:25.32 | nomis | AStorm: but rest assured that I also have an openGL implementation with a smoothly animated seconds indicator, which is fast enough on my desktop in fullscreen mode :) |
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| 09:26.15 | AStorm | nomis: I mean, create PNGs out of it, will be faster :-) |
| 09:26.20 | AStorm | for N, of course |
| 09:26.41 | nomis | AStorm: huh? On the N810 there is no problem interactively resizing the thing. |
| 09:30.33 | AStorm | better yet, make an animated gif |
| 09:30.42 | AStorm | just loop it and start it on a certain frame |
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| 09:31.00 | AStorm | nomis: no *problem*, but more CPU usage. Got it? :) |
| 09:31.31 | nomis | AStorm: I somehow doubt that storing 1440 PNGs would make the user happy :) |
| 09:31.44 | AStorm | that's why an animated gif is better |
| 09:31.45 | AStorm | :> |
| 09:31.53 | RST38h | Actually... |
| 09:32.02 | AStorm | I'd love APNG though, if it worked. |
| 09:32.21 | AStorm | (or MNG) |
| 09:32.23 | nomis | AStorm: it wouldn't solve the resizing problem though... :) |
| 09:32.25 | RST38h | imagines a generic OS2008 applet that accesses a web server once an hour, downloads n SVG and renders it with transparent background |
| 09:32.49 | RST38h | As long as you update rarely, this should work like a charm |
| 09:34.17 | nomis | RST38h: something along the lines of the tableteer info thing= |
| 09:34.17 | nomis | ? |
| 09:34.35 | nomis | (should be pretty easy actually) |
| 09:34.48 | nomis | (assuming that librsvg is on the device) |
| 09:35.19 | AStorm | RST38h: evil? |
| 09:35.27 | AStorm | and you'd need the connection |
| 09:35.47 | AStorm | but still, why not ;P |
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| 09:44.27 | AStorm | ssvb: hello |
| 09:44.44 | AStorm | the problem with mpayer is introduced or aggravated by -vo xv |
| 09:44.48 | AStorm | *mplayer |
| 09:45.02 | AStorm | -vo omapfb is very fast |
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| 09:45.47 | AStorm | (although has some problems with window switching) |
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| 09:51.30 | trickie_ | AStorm: see http://www.muru.com/linux/n8x0/ ? |
| 09:52.02 | AStorm | later |
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| 10:01.06 | ssvb | AStorm: yes, I know about this |
| 10:01.45 | ssvb | AStorm: slowness of XV is one of the reasons why omapfb output driver was developed :) |
| 10:02.05 | AStorm | so kick canola devs to use omapfb |
| 10:03.16 | AStorm | trickie: blah blah, blah |
| 10:03.20 | AStorm | nothing I don't know |
| 10:03.39 | ssvb | AStorm: they tried it, but it showed a lot more artefacts to the point that it was unacceptable |
| 10:04.23 | AStorm | it does, yes |
| 10:04.29 | lardman | ssvb: how are Nokia at accepting kernel patches - you had one pending for Mplayer didn't you? |
| 10:04.47 | AStorm | something wrong about color keying |
| 10:04.54 | AStorm | maybe it doesn't do that at all? |
| 10:05.19 | AStorm | and it's bad at switching to other windows, deinits ugly |
| 10:06.04 | lardman | ssvb: I've worked out why the N800 won't share the framebuffer; it accurately reports the size of the framebuffer (needs lots of small page size TLBs) whereas the 770 lies and says its framebuffer is 0x100000 in size which only needs one page & TLB |
| 10:09.17 | trickie_ | AStorm: yes, but he is the linux-omap maintainer, so good that he is pushing to get n8x0 support up to date |
| 10:14.03 | hrw | lardman: why nokia has to accept kernel patches? |
| 10:14.33 | hrw | lardman: I would rather send patches to proper maintainers instead of nokia. but not with current work ;D |
| 10:15.42 | lardman | hrw: agreed, but to make being able to share the framebuffer useful for most people, Nokia would need to use the patch |
| 10:17.10 | lardman | if it were accepted then that's fine, but I don't know when we'll get a new kernel, and even then I need to see how much of the bits I'm using are in the maemo-specific patches rather than mainline |
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| 11:46.08 | sp3000 | quick, somebody file an rfe: http://xkcd.com/416/ |
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| 11:53.04 | KotCzarny | http://xkcd.com/407/ |
| 11:53.05 | KotCzarny | ehehehehe |
| 11:54.32 | lcuk2 | Fabulous secret powers were revealed to me the day I held aloft my magic n810 and said: "By the power of Greyskull" HE-MAN! "I have a GPS Lock!" |
| 11:54.43 | KotCzarny | lcuk: hi |
| 11:54.55 | KotCzarny | btw. check what gpsd version you have installed? |
| 11:55.53 | lcuk2 | hi kot :) i went and got a drink last night and got heavily sidetracked. feeling any better today |
| 11:56.17 | KotCzarny | not yet, i woke up after 3h of sleep |
| 11:56.27 | lcuk2 | im not sure, my gps aint that bad - i barely use it so ill wait for diablo |
| 11:56.28 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 11:56.30 | lcuk2 | not good |
| 11:56.38 | KotCzarny | just check |
| 11:56.40 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 11:56.42 | lcuk2 | i managed to fill my internal memory last night |
| 11:56.52 | lcuk2 | i couldnt install x11-dev until some serious surgery |
| 11:57.28 | lcuk2 | ssvb, is xv video slower than it should be? i have found it faster than anything else available |
| 11:57.44 | lcuk2 | or is this just for the older models |
| 11:58.48 | lcuk2 | KotCzarny, take a look at this and please tell me theres a simpler way.. http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18751&highlight=mmc+boot |
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| 12:01.57 | KotCzarny | i think the guy is talkative :> |
| 12:02.37 | Atarii | morning |
| 12:02.52 | Atarii | quick question, is there a way to remove multiple packages at the same time with dpkg ? |
| 12:03.10 | lcuk2 | so do i, and if ppl with n810 follow instructions it doesnt work (especially since he directs them to mmc2 |
| 12:03.13 | KotCzarny | atarii: yes, just list them on the same line |
| 12:03.17 | kulve | Atarii: just list the package there? |
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| 12:03.38 | Atarii | can i not do like help-file-local-* ? |
| 12:03.52 | KotCzarny | lcuk: that dependswhere do you want to clone to |
| 12:04.00 | Atarii | its such a pain to type out all the long names |
| 12:04.14 | lcuk2 | i have a shiny 1gb card inserted into mmc1 |
| 12:04.28 | lcuk2 | i just want the whole lot to be usable as main filesystem |
| 12:04.53 | KotCzarny | lcuk: should do, just change all the references to the proper device |
| 12:06.17 | lcuk2 | he title lies though - its like the instructions to update vista sp1. long |
| 12:06.30 | lcuk2 | t^ |
| 12:06.35 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 12:07.40 | lcuk2 | "simple" instructions are doable easily by the missus. long drawn out multiple reboot instructions are not simple ;) |
| 12:08.35 | KotCzarny | 1/ prepare your perfect os, 2/ configure&install fanoush's initfs (boot menu), 3/ partition sd card, 4/ clone fs (script or manual), 5/ reboot |
| 12:08.42 | KotCzarny | now, that's simple, right? |
| 12:08.43 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 12:09.45 | KotCzarny | erm, multiple reboot? |
| 12:09.50 | KotCzarny | only one is required :) |
| 12:10.06 | lcuk2 | yes :P but each step takes up 3 sides of a4 and involves ferrying around :P |
| 12:10.47 | KotCzarny | lcuk: it's for the people that weren't able to run script :) |
| 12:11.54 | lcuk2 | but im not gonna run a script because i saw no way to specify the devices etc - i would have to do it manually lest i dualboot to my internal card (which kinda defeats the purpose) |
| 12:12.09 | KotCzarny | ? |
| 12:12.16 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 12:12.25 | KotCzarny | that's point 2 in my instruction |
| 12:12.26 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 12:13.06 | KotCzarny | and for point 4 you can use my script |
| 12:13.07 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 12:14.24 | ssvb | lcuk2: xv is slower than direct access to framebuffer and is slower than it should be, 'planar yv12' -> 'omapfb yuv420' color conversion code from it is inefficient |
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| 12:16.02 | lcuk2 | hmmmm ssvb, so i could go even faster... interesting, i thought the xv shm planar memory i used was the same planaar memory omapfb uses. i shall investigate |
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| 12:17.21 | ssvb | lcuk2: omapfb does not use planar memory, it has 2 kind of packed yuv formats |
| 12:17.22 | KotCzarny | heh, planaar reminds me of fantasy genre |
| 12:17.24 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 12:18.13 | ssvb | lcuk2: YUY2 and YUV420 (which is not YUV420 you can find information in the internet, that's a bit confusing) |
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| 12:18.19 | lcuk2 | ssvb, yer ive seen the format descriptions - that surprised me though |
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| 12:19.53 | ssvb | lcuk2: Xomap does conversion from planar YUV to packed YUV in software, you can see this code in 'omap_copy_yuv420' function |
| 12:20.15 | ssvb | lcuk2: this function can be implemented better |
| 12:20.59 | lcuk2 | yer, ill have a look later on (vnc at the moment from work) |
| 12:21.27 | lcuk2 | but if i can remove an entire block of copying then its even faster |
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| 12:26.16 | lcuk2 | now just wants to get home to test and poke around |
| 12:26.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 12:26.34 | KotCzarny | get yourself a second nokia |
| 12:26.39 | KotCzarny | n800 for example |
| 12:26.52 | KotCzarny | second hand will do |
| 12:26.53 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 12:26.57 | X-Fade_ | lcuk2: Hotel booked already? |
| 12:27.03 | lcuk2 | i will eventually, but for now its enough to know something else is happening |
| 12:27.18 | lcuk2 | i am sure i was doing omapfb with planar stuff |
| 12:27.58 | lcuk2 | not booked i just needed to confirm some details re travel dates |
| 12:28.26 | lcuk2 | X-Fade_, you sorted? |
| 12:28.32 | X-Fade_ | lcuk2: Yep |
| 12:28.47 | lcuk2 | wicked - how long you staying for |
| 12:29.19 | X-Fade_ | lcuk2: I'll arrive on wednesday and will leave on friday.. |
| 12:30.08 | X-Fade_ | Quim suggested dinner and beers after the talks. Let's see if that can be arranged :) |
| 12:30.29 | lcuk2 | cool, ill send mail later and finalize my plans |
| 12:30.33 | X-Fade_ | Or the other way around probably.. |
| 12:30.44 | lcuk2 | i think there is an arranged dinner on thursday night |
| 12:30.58 | lcuk2 | linuxtag speakers etc |
| 12:31.20 | lcuk2 | needs discussing properly so everyone gets a chance to speak up |
| 12:31.28 | lcuk2 | right, must go dinner over |
| 12:31.42 | lcuk2 | back later, and thx ssvb, you have given me something to ponder about |
| 12:31.48 | lcuk2 | speak later kot |
| 12:31.53 | KotCzarny | k k |
| 12:32.01 | KotCzarny | i should get some sleep |
| 12:32.03 | lcuk2 | falls off, cya x |
| 12:32.07 | X-Fade_ | Later.. |
| 12:32.09 | lcuk2 | -fade |
| 12:32.50 | KotCzarny | http://mirror7.escomposlinux.org/comic/ecol-160-e.png |
| 12:32.50 | KotCzarny | lol |
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| 12:47.52 | ImMelody | morning |
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| 12:58.33 | AStorm | wb |
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| 13:03.36 | inz | AStorm, did you get your battery charged enough? |
| 13:03.49 | AStorm | yes, fully |
| 13:03.54 | inz | great |
| 13:04.01 | AStorm | I'll try kernel later today |
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| 13:09.49 | keesj | What is the story about the max resolution of video's can't is be 800x480? |
| 13:09.54 | keesj | (mpeg) |
| 13:10.18 | KotCzarny | you can, but at lower fps |
| 13:10.19 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 13:10.42 | keesj | like how many? |
| 13:10.50 | KotCzarny | 20-30? |
| 13:11.02 | keesj | way to much , I only need a few |
| 13:11.03 | johnx | 20 or less, I'd think |
| 13:11.04 | fysa | anyone here using off-line wikipedia? |
| 13:11.48 | johnx | fysa, I was gonna try the sdictviewer version soon |
| 13:11.54 | johnx | need to free up some space... |
| 13:12.15 | fysa | trying to download the sdict torrent now, but it seems the only seeds don't have proper ports open or something |
| 13:12.33 | fysa | 1 week eta ;) |
| 13:13.28 | johnx | keesj, it's a problem of a slow CPU and also the bus between the video chipset and LCD controller is slow |
| 13:13.44 | fysa | the other method seemed like a bit of a hassle -- and too heavy. (lighthttpd + http://localhost:3000/wiki/) |
| 13:15.36 | johnx | maybe if you used swap or launched lighthttpd from inetd, or something? |
| 13:16.23 | fysa | well, lighthttpd is .. light. but the 'solution' becomes heavy. having to give 100mb of RAM to microb |
| 13:16.31 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 13:16.36 | johnx | true |
| 13:16.38 | fysa | when I'm not even online ;) |
| 13:16.40 | KotCzarny | or links2 browser |
| 13:16.54 | johnx | OTOH, sdictviewer is a pretty great little app |
| 13:17.40 | fysa | http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3997207/enwiki-2007-01-04_wiki.dct |
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| 13:23.31 | AStorm | ssvb: well, omapfb doesn't reinit if mplayer regains focus |
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| 13:40.44 | AStorm | well, conservative cpufreq is better than ondemand |
| 13:40.58 | AStorm | (even tuned ondemand) |
| 13:43.46 | Khertan_TheReal | pffff |
| 13:44.05 | Khertan_TheReal | ondemand will always be better ... specially for battery |
| 13:46.19 | ssvb | AStorm: could you clarify? how did you reproduce it? |
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| 13:46.32 | ssvb | AStorm: was it poweroff dialog? |
| 13:46.42 | AStorm | ssvb: notg related to mplayer |
| 13:46.47 | AStorm | in many apps |
| 13:47.00 | AStorm | with ondemand, I get rare random skips |
| 13:47.14 | AStorm | (even when threshold is increased) |
| 13:47.26 | ssvb | AStorm: I was asking about regaining focus |
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| 13:49.48 | AStorm | ah, that just try a few times |
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| 13:49.59 | AStorm | sometimes you'll get a black screen |
| 13:50.13 | AStorm | eswp. often if video is paused |
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| 13:50.29 | AStorm | it tends to come back after some more switches |
| 13:50.37 | AStorm | ofc. with omapfb |
| 13:55.48 | AStorm | it has an artifact if something else also tries to paint (e.g. home menu) |
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| 14:13.55 | huats | does anybody is able to tell me if pygtk on the n810 supports svg manipulation ? |
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| 14:24.57 | lardman | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3123 we can now do fb output from the DSP on the N8x0 as well as the 770 |
| 14:26.00 | KotCzarny | whoo hoo |
| 14:26.01 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:26.05 | qwerty12 | nice one :) |
| 14:26.24 | lardman | thanks for sending me the kernel source when the repo was down :) |
| 14:26.47 | qwerty12 | np, glad it helped :) for something as good as this :) thanks |
| 14:27.28 | X-Fade_ | lardman: Nice! |
| 14:27.30 | lardman | ssvb: I didn't get round to trying the mplayer YUV output stuff, but will do some now that I've got that little problem sorted |
| 14:27.54 | qwerty12 | is off to download Ubuntu Hardy and OpenSUSE and reformat. If I can get hardy to play nice with sbox, I'll use that. If not, OpenSUSE time. |
| 14:34.12 | Blafasel | I dumped Ubuntu after a short try yesterday |
| 14:35.23 | Blafasel | OpenSuse worked out of the box and nice with my dualhead, ubuntu stubbornly insisted to use a cloned setup (instead of an expanded one) and provided no gui to fix that. Not easy enough for my gf ;) |
| 14:35.25 | RST38h | reinstall Hardy again? =) |
| 14:35.53 | qwerty12 | I don't mind it, I thought 7.10 was great for scratchbox, worked out of the box with it but I'm really peed off with 8.04. I applied the two fixes for sbox under hardy but some packages still will not install and if I ignore it, I get compile errors and "sbox is not properly set up" when I log out and log in again |
| 14:35.55 | KotCzarny | blafasel: ever heard about xrandr command? |
| 14:36.01 | qwerty12 | RST38h, I'm trying it again :) |
| 14:36.10 | qwerty12 | But if it fails, I'm grabbing opensuse. |
| 14:36.57 | KotCzarny | well, girls can use cmd line too |
| 14:37.27 | KotCzarny | i know a few that can at least |
| 14:37.28 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:38.17 | ccooke | Blafasel: (Not trying to convince you to switch; Suse's not a bad system) There *is* a GUI for that... It's the display resolution changer |
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| 14:39.30 | Khertan_TheReal | i ve swith too ... no more ubuntu at home ... for debian ! |
| 14:39.54 | Khertan_TheReal | i ve try gOS but ... they now use gnome and it s now based on ubuntu ... :( |
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| 14:40.17 | qwerty12 | I quite like the idea of LinuxMint but its based on Ubuntu too. |
| 14:40.52 | RST38h | qwerty: OpenSUSE is even worse |
| 14:41.10 | RST38h | Wiped my MBR once |
| 14:41.24 | ccooke | RST38h: That *can* happen with any system |
| 14:41.42 | RST38h | ccooke: Still, SUSE was the only one with which it happened to me. |
| 14:41.51 | qwerty12 | >.<. But I've wiped my MBR so much, I keep a boot cd full of stuff on it. Some illegal, some not so illegal. |
| 14:41.53 | KotCzarny | dos was notorious in wiping partition table |
| 14:41.54 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 14:42.01 | Navi | gOS was always based on Ubuntu |
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| 14:42.18 | RST38h | Well, SUSE didn't completely wipe it, but rendered it unusable |
| 14:42.25 | RST38h | And uneditable with FDISK |
| 14:42.27 | Khertan_TheReal | LinuxMint seems based on Debian |
| 14:42.37 | Navi | MBRs being wiped isn't bad :p |
| 14:42.41 | ccooke | RST38h: ... that sounds like hardware failure |
| 14:42.51 | RST38h | So I had to boot from floppy and edit it by hand using some reeeally hacky tool |
| 14:42.58 | Navi | that bad* |
| 14:43.08 | RST38h | ccooke: to me it sounds like screwed up installation script in SUSE |
| 14:43.24 | ccooke | RST38h: fdisk can recover (even if recovery means "replace with a blank one and start again") from a bad partition table |
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| 14:43.40 | Khertan_TheReal | is their some people using sqlite with python ... |
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| 14:44.04 | qwerty12 | The thing is, I want Ubuntu to work, i'm reformatting with a clean install of Hardy but if it doesn't work, I'm going to OpenSUSE which seems very popular too. I'd like to try Debian but last stable was a year ago and I don't like unstable release. But saying that, new Debian is coming out. But except for the background, debian desktop looks boring :/ |
| 14:44.06 | Khertan_TheReal | i looking for the datetime format that sqlite understand |
| 14:44.10 | RST38h | ccooke: SUSE set the secondary partition in a state where FDISK.EXE could not blank it |
| 14:44.22 | Khertan_TheReal | i ve tryed datetime.datetime.now().isoformat() |
| 14:44.23 | ccooke | ah, *dos* fdisk |
| 14:44.25 | ccooke | sorry |
| 14:44.27 | Navi | lol |
| 14:44.28 | RST38h | And could not use it either |
| 14:44.44 | RST38h | And to use *linux* fdisk you need a running copy of Linux, don't you? |
| 14:45.02 | RST38h | Which is kinda difficult if your HD has damaged MBR, right? |
| 14:45.08 | ccooke | RST38h: not really |
| 14:45.09 | KotCzarny | livecd |
| 14:45.10 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:45.12 | KotCzarny | or usb boot |
| 14:45.17 | KotCzarny | or second pc |
| 14:45.17 | RST38h | Laptop. No CD. |
| 14:45.27 | KotCzarny | pcmcia boot can do too |
| 14:45.33 | ccooke | you can get a shell on the installation media of every linux distro I've seen in ages |
| 14:45.33 | Khertan_TheReal | network boot up : |
| 14:45.33 | RST38h | Actually, the solution was much simpler |
| 14:45.35 | Khertan_TheReal | :) |
| 14:45.43 | Navi | liveusb |
| 14:46.00 | RST38h | 1. DOS floppy 2. manual MBR editor 3. Mix, boot, edit 4. Never touch SUSE again. |
| 14:46.11 | KotCzarny | btw. you can have linux on a floppy too |
| 14:46.13 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:46.27 | RST38h | I would rather not though... |
| 14:46.28 | Khertan_TheReal | http://www.toms.net/rb/ |
| 14:46.33 | KotCzarny | why.. |
| 14:46.36 | KotCzarny | fits nicely |
| 14:46.37 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:46.44 | qwerty12 | gOS looks tacky :p |
| 14:46.44 | RST38h | 'cause I just want thing to work and not to cause me problems |
| 14:47.06 | KotCzarny | i wouldn't trust anything created by fdisk.exe |
| 14:47.07 | RST38h | In fact, FreeBSD usually does just that - works, does not cause problems |
| 14:47.07 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:47.23 | RST38h | Ubuntu is pretty much the first Linux distro that does the same for me |
| 14:49.32 | qwerty12 | is burning 8.10 now. I'm gonna remove my linux partitions, reinstall xp mbr and set xp to be active again and go through the Ubuntu install again. |
| 14:50.12 | KotCzarny | installed slackware 8.0 long time ago |
| 14:50.20 | KotCzarny | then it's 'just working [tm]' |
| 14:50.22 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:50.32 | Navi | needs to axe XP and resize his media partition |
| 14:50.41 | KotCzarny | with upgradepkg here and there of course |
| 14:50.54 | qwerty12 | Slackware, while not bad, seems too much for me. I can't be arsed to compile (I believe that's how it works?) |
| 14:50.58 | KotCzarny | axe media partition and resize xp |
| 14:51.13 | KotCzarny | qwerty: you're confusing it with gentoo |
| 14:51.14 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:51.38 | qwerty12 | Doh, thanks. I get my distros mixed up |
| 14:51.45 | Navi | it's a binary distro |
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| 14:52.03 | KotCzarny | sources are available too |
| 14:52.12 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:52.26 | Navi | though, a lot of sllackers compile shtick, last i used it |
| 14:52.52 | KotCzarny | well, you usually compile if you hack something |
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| 14:53.31 | qwerty12 | "Slackware's mascot - Tux with a pipe", I still think the idea of Ganja instead looks better. |
| 14:54.21 | KotCzarny | afair there wasn't any clarifications what's IN the pipe |
| 14:54.33 | KotCzarny | may be bubble gum as well |
| 14:54.40 | KotCzarny | and smoking kills |
| 14:54.48 | KotCzarny | be it tobacco or ganja |
| 14:55.50 | qwerty12 | Bubut someone called Arnim Sauerbier said "people use drugs to prevent death. people use drugs because death is inevitable" so what does it matter? :P |
| 14:56.39 | KotCzarny | ever been in pain? :P |
| 14:56.43 | KotCzarny | pain matters |
| 14:56.44 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 14:58.04 | qwerty12 | Well, I've never been in serious pain that makes me go to drugs but I did scrape my hand a lot smashing up and breaking my N-Gage with some sort of enlargened allen key. Damn, these Finnish love to make a strong product. |
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| 14:58.29 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:58.49 | KotCzarny | anything is breakable |
| 14:59.29 | qwerty12 | Bye, I gtg to reformat :) |
| 14:59.32 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 15:21.58 | sp3000 | hmm, did I ask this recently |
| 15:22.34 | sp3000 | anyone happen to know if you can change modest's plaintext compose font to something decent instead of the ultra-wiry courier? |
| 15:22.52 | KotCzarny | gtkrc ? |
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| 15:26.40 | mourad | hello all, i would convert a xml file with python in maemo chinook4.0 but i can't find the library "libxslt" to use it, how can i proceed ? |
| 15:27.00 | sp3000 | wouldn't know where to put it or what to put in it |
| 15:27.15 | sp3000 | I suppose ~/.gtkrc is a decent guess for the first |
| 15:27.37 | KotCzarny | i think /home/user/.gtkrc-2.0 or something |
| 15:27.49 | KotCzarny | but more probably /usr/share/themes/ |
| 15:27.50 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 15:28.09 | KotCzarny | just write modest's author |
| 15:28.14 | KotCzarny | it will be simpler |
| 15:31.13 | sp3000 | !summon djcb |
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| 15:33.51 | sp3000 | hm, that didn't work |
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| 15:40.27 | qwerty12 | Hello :). I speak from a newly installed 8.10. Time to install fglrx to fix my brightness and try out scratchbox. |
| 15:41.08 | sp3000 | or, I could just sneak in and replace the ttf :P |
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| 15:41.53 | CrashandDie | Hey everyone |
| 15:42.19 | CrashandDie | I'm looking to pick up some storage for my N810, got any links ? (preferably 8GB microsd + micro-mini-sd adapter) |
| 15:42.25 | CrashandDie | (I'm in Europe btw) |
| 15:42.38 | sp3000 | doesn't see references to anything but a sans in the theme rcs |
| 15:42.42 | KotCzarny | ebay.de ? |
| 15:43.01 | CrashandDie | bleh, I don't like buying consumer electronics off ebay |
| 15:43.27 | KotCzarny | some kind of craigslist local to your city? |
| 15:44.18 | CrashandDie | craigslist ? |
| 15:44.44 | KotCzarny | craigslist.org |
| 15:45.00 | KotCzarny | social board |
| 15:45.39 | qwerty12 | In UK, we have gumtree. Not exact but similar imo |
| 15:45.48 | KotCzarny | yeah |
| 15:46.23 | KotCzarny | that's the 'some kind of' in my suggestion |
| 15:46.24 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 15:46.31 | CrashandDie | i'm not looking to buy second hand |
| 15:46.40 | KotCzarny | you can buy new sometimes |
| 15:46.46 | CrashandDie | ok nevermind |
| 15:46.55 | KotCzarny | when people bought wrong size etc |
| 15:47.07 | sp3000 | is annoyed |
| 15:47.38 | KotCzarny | sp3000: then just replace the font and see what happens |
| 15:47.40 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 15:48.57 | sp3000 | global awesomeness, I imagine |
| 15:49.11 | KotCzarny | you don't like courier anyway |
| 15:49.12 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 15:49.42 | KotCzarny | i think you can do it in /etc/fonts/somewhere |
| 15:49.50 | KotCzarny | putting an alias to courier |
| 15:49.54 | sp3000 | it should go on an extended vacation on the moon with comic, yes |
| 15:51.39 | lardman|afk | CrashandDie: just make sure you don't get a Sandisk micro to mini adaptor |
| 15:51.58 | CrashandDie | lardman, why not ? |
| 15:52.06 | sp3000 | the shared hallucination (among not-really-monospace-using-people mostly I suppose) that it's some sort of reasonable monospace font is rather unfortunate |
| 15:52.15 | lardman | they don't work; there's a bug on the maemo bugtracker for it |
| 15:53.25 | KotCzarny | is used to 'fixed' |
| 15:53.27 | KotCzarny | ;) |
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| 15:55.12 | CrashandDie | lardman, hmm... k |
| 15:56.11 | lardman | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2672 |
| 15:56.13 | sp3000 | hm, but these things have names embedded, no |
| 15:56.20 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 15:56.25 | sp3000 | so replacing a file shouldn't actually help at all |
| 15:56.27 | KotCzarny | that's why i suggested /etc/fonts/ |
| 15:56.54 | lardman | CrashandDie: Kingston adaptor works with my Sandisk micro SD but the Sandisk adaptor doesn't, for example |
| 15:57.18 | CrashandDie | lardman, ok, good to know |
| 15:57.56 | CrashandDie | lardman, you wouldn't know where I could get that kingston adaptor ? |
| 15:58.18 | qwerty12 | From Jamaica? ;P |
| 15:58.44 | KotCzarny | china |
| 15:58.45 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 15:58.48 | lardman | CrashandDie: I had to buy another card |
| 15:59.22 | qwerty12 | Hehe, I'd have a great time in China "diverting" shipments.. |
| 15:59.31 | lardman | Some people report success with adaptors bought on ebay, so you could give that a go, but ymmv |
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| 16:00.16 | KotCzarny | he hates getting off ebay |
| 16:00.17 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:01.01 | lardman | cu chaps |
| 16:01.16 | lopz | hi |
| 16:03.24 | dneary | Hi |
| 16:03.33 | dneary | I made my first NP level :) |
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| 16:04.36 | KotCzarny | dneary: like, new level? or just playing the game? |
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| 16:06.04 | dneary | KotCzarny: design |
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| 16:06.08 | KotCzarny | nice |
| 16:06.24 | KotCzarny | is there an editor? |
| 16:06.48 | dneary | on the N810, you just hit "e" |
| 16:07.04 | KotCzarny | heh.. |
| 16:07.13 | KotCzarny | will it work with osk too? |
| 16:07.14 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:07.40 | dneary | don't know |
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| 16:09.46 | sp3000 | KotCzarny: oh, victory |
| 16:09.51 | sp3000 | thanks for the pointers |
| 16:09.56 | KotCzarny | np |
| 16:10.09 | KotCzarny | courier be dead ? |
| 16:10.25 | sp3000 | commented out the NewCourier elements in conf.d/40-* and 60-* so it prefers the next in line |
| 16:10.37 | sp3000 | one of the edits is probably unnecessary |
| 16:10.50 | fysa | someone has put the Android fonts on the N800 |
| 16:10.55 | fysa | which are supposed to be nice |
| 16:10.56 | sp3000 | and reordering would probably be more correct |
| 16:11.24 | sp3000 | but I'll iterate next time |
| 16:11.27 | KotCzarny | or adding 39-sp3000-something? |
| 16:11.29 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:12.00 | sp3000 | hey, that level of correctness approaches packageability |
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| 16:12.08 | sp3000 | careful |
| 16:12.10 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 16:12.31 | KotCzarny | group hating? |
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| 16:13.05 | sp3000 | hm, thnk that's the way the priority goes, and not overriding in later files in order? |
| 16:13.13 | sp3000 | has no idea |
| 16:13.13 | fysa | http://www.typophile.com/node/39036 |
| 16:13.16 | KotCzarny | don't know |
| 16:13.18 | KotCzarny | really |
| 16:13.20 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:13.27 | fysa | I don't know if that's it. |
| 16:13.27 | KotCzarny | then 41-sp3000 |
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| 16:13.55 | sp3000 | or >60, depending on which one the useful fix is |
| 16:14.24 | KotCzarny | 99-local-sp3000 then |
| 16:14.26 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 16:16.41 | dneary | Hmmm |
| 16:16.49 | dneary | Can't figure out how to find those levels now |
| 16:16.53 | qwerty12 | Ok, packages for CHINOOK_ARMEL are downloading. If I have no problems, Ubuntu it is :). If I do, OpenSUSE download time. I've downloaded sbox 20 times in total. I'm not gonna keep trying for Ubuntu. |
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| 16:17.03 | Paulius | Hey all |
| 16:17.42 | johnx | hey |
| 16:18.30 | Paulius | OS2008 is very nice, but certain things are slow. |
| 16:18.47 | Atarii | wb Paulius |
| 16:18.57 | Paulius | I'll get beardrop installed and will try optimizing it |
| 16:19.09 | qwerty12 | that's just cruel :p |
| 16:19.11 | Paulius | i.e.: removing services and trying the few kernel tricks that post recommended. |
| 16:19.18 | qwerty12 | dropbear perhaps? :) |
| 16:19.23 | KotCzarny | bear droppings.. augh |
| 16:19.29 | Paulius | lol |
| 16:19.31 | Paulius | right right |
| 16:19.35 | fysa | sounds military |
| 16:19.38 | KotCzarny | and installing them anywhere? |
| 16:19.39 | fysa | operation beardrop |
| 16:19.42 | KotCzarny | aughaugh |
| 16:19.58 | qwerty12 | lol |
| 16:20.03 | KotCzarny | more like diversion |
| 16:20.30 | Paulius | hmmm |
| 16:20.33 | Paulius | can't find it on maemo |
| 16:20.41 | KotCzarny | install ssh-server |
| 16:20.47 | Paulius | ah |
| 16:21.05 | KotCzarny | or simply install ssh meta package |
| 16:21.27 | qwerty12 | openssh is better than dropbear imho. Only advantage of dropbear is that bootmenu (if you use it) doesn't need to keep generating ssh keys. |
| 16:21.41 | Paulius | but it also uses less RAM. |
| 16:22.03 | KotCzarny | but doesn't drop bears |
| 16:22.21 | KotCzarny | on unsuspected tableteers |
| 16:22.25 | MangoFusion | where are my bears? |
| 16:22.31 | KotCzarny | *unsuspecting |
| 16:22.34 | qwerty12 | Where you left them? |
| 16:22.41 | MangoFusion | i can't bear life without them! |
| 16:22.42 | KotCzarny | ask google |
| 16:22.42 | johnx | MangoFusion, they were dropped |
| 16:22.49 | KotCzarny | now |
| 16:22.52 | KotCzarny | here's your bear |
| 16:23.11 | MangoFusion | dropped? dropped?! But i paid good money for them! They'll never be the same again!! |
| 16:23.19 | hillct | what's the maemo dist name for the Febuary 2008 OS distribution? |
| 16:23.21 | MangoFusion | ;) |
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| 16:24.05 | johnx | chinook, OS2008, maemo 4.0.1 |
| 16:24.11 | johnx | 51-3 |
| 16:24.16 | hillct | thanks |
| 16:24.19 | johnx | lots of names, really :) |
| 16:24.29 | qwerty12 | POS, PITA etc |
| 16:24.37 | hillct | and what magic do I need to perform to get root access on it? |
| 16:24.42 | qwerty12 | w00t!, SDK installed fine on a clean install of hardy :) |
| 16:24.52 | johnx | hillct, grab easyroot from http://nitapps.com |
| 16:24.55 | KotCzarny | hillct: install ssh-server |
| 16:25.12 | johnx | ~easyroot |
| 16:25.25 | hillct | thanks. the root scripty thing keeps changing |
| 16:25.29 | hillct | or at least it seems to |
| 16:25.39 | johnx | becomeroot still works I think |
| 16:25.56 | hillct | yeah, that's the one I used last time around |
| 16:26.00 | johnx | infobot, easyroot is an easy way to get root access on OS2008 and can be found at http://nitapps.com |
| 16:26.01 | infobot | johnx: okay |
| 16:26.19 | hillct | good call |
| 16:27.05 | hillct | as I recall, the packaged version of becomeroot was dist specific, but the script itself works |
| 16:27.56 | qwerty12 | I'd recommend easyroot anyway. It can work in the same way as becomeroot plus have a shortcut "root", which sets proper environment for root user profile. |
| 16:28.13 | RST38h | qwerty: it worked? |
| 16:28.23 | RST38h | third time was the magic? =) |
| 16:28.31 | mourad | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.33 | qwerty12 | RST38h, yes :). Nope, reformat :) |
| 16:29.01 | qwerty12 | Thanks for your help with SB2 but I think SB1 is more for me. |
| 16:29.25 | KotCzarny | likes sb1 too |
| 16:29.43 | johnx | should setup sb2 again |
| 16:29.58 | qwerty12 | Now I can get back to what I do best, make crappy ports :P |
| 16:30.30 | qwerty12 | I think SB1 and SB2 conflict with each other, I've never managed to get both installed at same time. |
| 16:30.34 | Proteous | I like SMB1 |
| 16:30.47 | johnx | qwerty12, I wouldn't doubt it |
| 16:31.21 | elb | I prefer SMB3 |
| 16:31.28 | qwerty12 | johnx, true. I assumed they wouldn't because afaik they use different dirs. |
| 16:32.11 | johnx | I don't assume anything when it comes to computers anymore |
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| 16:32.45 | johnx | 10 years ago, I assumed win95 would actually work with my computer's hardware since it came installed on the $%*# thing...hah |
| 16:32.55 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 16:32.59 | qwerty12 | lol |
| 16:33.53 | johnx | was so glad to see isa pnp die |
| 16:34.01 | hillct | johnx: FYI aparently the .install file extension on nitapps.com is served with the wrong mime type |
| 16:34.11 | Cptnodegard | thigns have changed in 10 years. people who buy computers today dont expect vista to work :p |
| 16:34.22 | johnx | hillct, yeah. I think I remember that happening |
| 16:34.38 | hillct | johnx: I take it it's not your box |
| 16:35.29 | johnx | nope |
| 16:36.12 | johnx | heh...right now my webhost is auto-spamming me to tell me I'm almost at my bandwidth quota |
| 16:36.29 | KotCzarny | outsource? |
| 16:36.44 | johnx | my mail reading? I like that idea |
| 16:37.08 | johnx | "hey kid, I'll giva ya a shiney nickel to read my email to me" |
| 16:37.09 | solmumaha | anyone know of (c)fdisk for tablet? |
| 16:37.19 | KotCzarny | sfdisk |
| 16:37.29 | KotCzarny | or just use it via usb |
| 16:37.33 | KotCzarny | will work too |
| 16:37.35 | johnx | sfdisk is more painful than fdisk |
| 16:37.47 | solmumaha | thanks |
| 16:37.52 | KotCzarny | johnx: depends on the task |
| 16:37.53 | johnx | fdisk is installed by default though |
| 16:37.56 | KotCzarny | and experience |
| 16:38.06 | KotCzarny | is it? |
| 16:38.12 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 16:38.15 | johnx | I thought it was O_o |
| 16:38.18 | johnx | checks |
| 16:38.29 | qwerty12 | sfdisk is installed by default |
| 16:38.29 | johnx | ah, guess not |
| 16:38.33 | qwerty12 | not sure about fdisk |
| 16:38.33 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:38.33 | johnx | ah, ok |
| 16:38.47 | KotCzarny | cfdisk needs some dependencies |
| 16:38.50 | johnx | too many OSes on too many handheld ARM devices |
| 16:39.01 | qwerty12 | KotCzarny, be a man and compile them :p |
| 16:39.16 | KotCzarny | qwerty: and who would like to install all of them? :P |
| 16:39.25 | KotCzarny | and i have heard you have working sbox :P |
| 16:39.41 | qwerty12 | >.<, you got me there :D :) |
| 16:40.31 | hillct | easyroot is very nice. no file editing etc... |
| 16:40.34 | qwerty12 | I'd like to set up sbrsh but my router is a POS. I really need to chip out for a new one... |
| 16:41.04 | johnx | your router doesn't route? doesn't even switch? |
| 16:41.23 | CrashandDie | what's the point of having a router if it doesn't route ? |
| 16:41.53 | johnx | door stop? paper weight? foot warmer? |
| 16:41.57 | qwerty12 | Naw, it doesn't like SSH. Firewall is set up fine. I log in via ssh and it stays there forever :/ |
| 16:42.12 | CrashandDie | wut ? |
| 16:42.23 | KotCzarny | maybe some idle tcp killer |
| 16:42.26 | CrashandDie | I doubt that's due to the router, honestly |
| 16:42.37 | KotCzarny | or just short connection timeout |
| 16:42.42 | qwerty12 | I dunno, it works fine over USB. |
| 16:42.53 | qwerty12 | Ports are forwarded correctly. |
| 16:42.58 | KotCzarny | or some active p2p users in da hauz |
| 16:43.06 | qwerty12 | Linux and Windows host both crap out :P |
| 16:43.11 | CrashandDie | qwerty12, you don't need to forward ports on local network |
| 16:43.17 | qwerty12 | KotCzarny, usually but not today :p |
| 16:43.37 | qwerty12 | CrashandDie, true but I did it for correctness as it isn't working for me already. |
| 16:44.00 | johnx | qwerty12, just to ensure there's no possible way it can work? |
| 16:44.18 | qwerty12 | johnx, got it in one. I@ |
| 16:44.27 | qwerty12 | s/I@/I'm sure it's router. |
| 16:44.53 | CrashandDie | qwerty12, tried changing the ports ? |
| 16:45.09 | johnx | we used to do that at a comp repair shop. Customer would bring in something they thought was broken, we'd tazer it and RMA it for them. :) |
| 16:45.33 | CrashandDie | qwerty12, instead of listening on port 22, get it to listen on port 80 ? |
| 16:45.37 | CrashandDie | qwerty12, or whatever is available |
| 16:45.48 | qwerty12 | CrashandDie, I haven't come think of it. I wasn't and still not sure on the hows so I'd read up on it. Thanks :) |
| 16:45.58 | qwerty12 | johnx, placebo effect? :) |
| 16:46.10 | CrashandDie | qwerty12, also, try certificate-based auth instead of password |
| 16:46.22 | johnx | also, nmap |
| 16:46.28 | johnx | and ssh -vvv |
| 16:46.34 | qwerty12 | CrashandDie, I did set up certs with same problem. |
| 16:46.40 | CrashandDie | plus, certificate based auth is so much easier in the end |
| 16:47.24 | CrashandDie | http://www.koreus.com/jeu/12many.html <-- over 400 this game is way too hard :/ |
| 16:47.25 | johnx | and a good guide on how networking works :) |
| 16:47.38 | CrashandDie | johnx, now now, don't be mean |
| 16:47.55 | CrashandDie | johnx, how is debian going ? |
| 16:48.21 | johnx | hey, we all need a refresher on the basics from time to time. Sometimes I still find I have assumptions that are just totally off the wall |
| 16:48.38 | KotCzarny | -o tcp_keepalive could help too |
| 16:48.41 | johnx | I was on hiatus from Debian for a couple months, but I've been trying to dig back into it recently |
| 16:48.45 | KotCzarny | if it's tcp timeout on the router |
| 16:49.34 | johnx | I'm gonna get a new webhost and try and put out a release that has working keyboard for N810 and N800 w/ usb keyboard |
| 16:49.37 | qwerty12 | Hmm, conntrack timeout is 30 seconds. Low or high? |
| 16:49.55 | KotCzarny | low i think |
| 16:50.09 | johnx | penguinbait did a neat "boot from sd" .deb that I should try and copy :) |
| 16:50.11 | KotCzarny | in linux it defaults to 432000 i think |
| 16:50.20 | qwerty12 | Ah, thanks. It was "optimised" for p2p :/ |
| 16:50.37 | qwerty12 | 432000 seconds sounds a bit high :? |
| 16:51.27 | johnx | qwerty12, it is for a router with small amounts of RAM |
| 16:51.30 | CrashandDie | anyway, I dropped the idea of getting a new sd card |
| 16:51.44 | johnx | CrashandDie, really? why? |
| 16:52.00 | CrashandDie | well, I'm moving to the UK, so I don't really need the expense |
| 16:52.04 | qwerty12 | johnx, this one for sure. Thanks, I'll set it to something like 3 mins. |
| 16:52.16 | KotCzarny | 3mins is too low |
| 16:52.25 | johnx | I think mine is at 30 min to an hour or so |
| 16:52.34 | KotCzarny | just try that tcpkeepalive option in ssh |
| 16:52.41 | johnx | and it depends on *which conntrack timeout* you're talking about |
| 16:52.41 | CrashandDie | and even though it's only about 80euro, well, bleh, the hell |
| 16:52.53 | qwerty12 | johnx, tcp |
| 16:52.55 | CrashandDie | I'll wait for the 16 or 32gig |
| 16:52.56 | johnx | 80euros?! |
| 16:53.03 | johnx | ow |
| 16:53.10 | KotCzarny | or buy n800 |
| 16:53.11 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 16:53.30 | johnx | aaah, you have an N810 so you're stuck with microsd? |
| 16:53.38 | CrashandDie | yeah |
| 16:53.46 | johnx | 2GB normal SD cards are getting close to free... |
| 16:53.47 | qwerty12 | CrashandDie, make it fast coming to England. £ cheaper = € :p |
| 16:54.00 | CrashandDie | qwerty12, I'll be there in about 3 months time ;) |
| 16:54.10 | qwerty12 | Cool :) |
| 16:54.22 | CrashandDie | btw, does anybody know the rules and regulations about importing a bike to the UK ? |
| 16:54.52 | KotCzarny | driving on the left would kill you... |
| 16:54.53 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 16:55.16 | CrashandDie | nha, I think I'll handle that |
| 16:55.47 | CrashandDie | but I mean like, taxes or check ups and stuff ? |
| 16:57.27 | CrashandDie | because I really love this bike :) |
| 16:57.40 | johnx | misses his bike :( |
| 16:57.43 | CrashandDie | And I'd be pretty pissed if I had to sell it in order to get a new one |
| 16:57.50 | CrashandDie | johnx, what did you have ? |
| 16:58.07 | johnx | just a basic trek with front shock...I just mis *having* a bike |
| 16:58.14 | CrashandDie | oh, and I'm guessing that by your silence, you have no idea about how I would go about converting my french driving licence into a UK one ? |
| 16:58.30 | qwerty12 | CrashandDie, It isn't EU license? |
| 16:58.45 | qwerty12 | Because now, you get given EU driving card now afaik |
| 16:58.46 | johnx | is anyone here actually in the UK? |
| 16:59.03 | qwerty12 | I am but at 15, i've never bothered to check this stuff out. |
| 16:59.30 | CrashandDie | qwerty12, I dunno, I have the old license, never seen a new one here |
| 17:00.01 | CrashandDie | qwerty12, lol... you were talking about a regular bike ^^ |
| 17:00.18 | qwerty12 | Ah. If you get here, best place is to ask at the post office. |
| 17:00.22 | qwerty12 | CrashandDie, nope :p |
| 17:00.35 | qwerty12 | I can't ride a bike, some physical weirdness. |
| 17:00.45 | CrashandDie | qwerty12, sorry, wrong nick ^^ |
| 17:00.56 | CrashandDie | johnx, lol... you were talking about a regular bike ^^ |
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| 17:01.53 | qwerty12 | my N800. "installing clit" :/ |
| 17:02.00 | qwerty12 | I bs you not. |
| 17:02.11 | johnx | yeah, I know. convert-lit |
| 17:02.24 | qwerty12 | I know, I just think it sounds funny :P |
| 17:02.37 | johnx | CrashandDie, yeah...just a bicycle, but it's too expensive to get it shipped :/ |
| 17:02.37 | Stskeeps | clit mice could be nice to have at times :P |
| 17:03.03 | johnx | http://xkcd.com/243/ :D |
| 17:03.18 | qwerty12 | lol |
| 17:03.52 | CrashandDie | heh |
| 17:03.54 | Stskeeps | haha |
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| 17:05.03 | johnx | I really liked those. I don't understand why they're so unpopular and instead sub-notebooks have tiny, crappy touchpads |
| 17:05.19 | qwerty12 | didn't like them |
| 17:05.52 | CrashandDie | johnx, clit mice were basically glorified joysticks |
| 17:05.53 | Stskeeps | johnx: patents methinks |
| 17:05.55 | KotCzarny | loves clits |
| 17:06.01 | qwerty12 | lol |
| 17:06.06 | johnx | well I guess that answers that. We don't have them anymore because qwerty12 didn't like them. :P |
| 17:06.17 | CrashandDie | hmm |
| 17:06.29 | CrashandDie | now, if we reverse that sentence... "a glorified joy stick is a clit" |
| 17:06.35 | qwerty12 | of course, east london mafia held guns to the manufacturers :p |
| 17:06.42 | KotCzarny | rhymes too |
| 17:06.44 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 17:13.38 | Mousey | I'm BACK!! |
| 17:13.52 | qwerty12 | Ello |
| 17:13.59 | johnx | hi |
| 17:14.04 | Mousey | waves |
| 17:14.07 | KotCzarny | suggests mousey to do /nick BACK |
| 17:14.11 | AStorm | first thing I'll do after setting up devel env is porting rtorrent |
| 17:14.19 | AStorm | *the* torrent client |
| 17:14.34 | qwerty12 | AStorm, any better than ctorrent or Transmission? |
| 17:14.34 | Mousey | enjoys abusing /wallchan |
| 17:14.43 | AStorm | qwerty12: much better |
| 17:14.52 | AStorm | alternatively, port Deluge |
| 17:14.57 | qwerty12 | Ah |
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| 17:15.17 | AStorm | which uses the same library (a fork actually, but synced) |
| 17:15.33 | qwerty12 | I'd like to see Aleph One. I'll have a go sometime but I'm really rubbish. hint hint ;) |
| 17:15.36 | AStorm | KotCzarny: of will you do that? :) |
| 17:15.53 | AStorm | should be like 2 deps |
| 17:16.02 | KotCzarny | like now? |
| 17:16.04 | AStorm | please port svn/devel if you can |
| 17:16.07 | AStorm | yep |
| 17:16.12 | KotCzarny | i'm barely awake |
| 17:16.20 | qwerty12 | I'll try if you want. |
| 17:16.31 | KotCzarny | and qwerty has working sbox |
| 17:16.39 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 17:16.50 | AStorm | qwerty12: :) |
| 17:16.57 | AStorm | Deluge would be nicer ofc |
| 17:17.06 | qwerty12 | Go on then :). http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/ - this rtorrent? :) |
| 17:17.13 | AStorm | yep |
| 17:17.44 | AStorm | Deluge is like rtorrent with non-ncurses UI :) |
| 17:18.18 | qwerty12 | I'm quite bad at GUI apps :/. I'll try rtorrent first :) |
| 17:18.27 | qwerty12 | I've downloaded trunk which is 1 week old. |
| 17:19.54 | AStorm | qwerty12: it's in PyGTK |
| 17:20.03 | AStorm | qwerty12: good |
| 17:20.38 | AStorm | you need libtorrent ofc |
| 17:21.12 | qwerty12 | Yeah, I'm compiling that. But I wish they used tar instead of zip, I'm sorting out permissions atm |
| 17:22.28 | AStorm | uhm, use svn? |
| 17:22.58 | qwerty12 | Yeah, but I've gone and sorted them out now :). I'll use svn on the rtorrent. |
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| 17:28.38 | qwerty12 | Sigh, libtorrent compile is slow and I've only got 5/10 mins left. |
| 17:33.42 | qwerty12 | Ok, I've made a quick deb of libtorrent. I'm compiling rtorrent now. |
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| 17:42.28 | qwerty12 | AStorm, here's libtorrent and rtorrent. I haven't tested and it was a quick package up so use dpkg -i to install it. Dependencies should be ok as I only have official maemo repos in scratchbox atm (extras, chinook and extras-devel) |
| 17:42.29 | qwerty12 | http://www.mediafire.com/?emc0mday9tz |
| 17:43.21 | qwerty12 | Bye. |
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| 17:43.37 | keesj | might be a nice one http://www.transmissionbt.com/ |
| 17:43.51 | Paulius | oh my god, I have a genius ideas |
| 17:43.52 | Paulius | *idea |
| 17:44.01 | Paulius | You know these people who hack their linksys routers? |
| 17:44.08 | johnx | raises his hand |
| 17:44.17 | Paulius | Well, they have a hack to put in more RAM. They just solder a 32MB chip instead of the 16MB chip. |
| 17:44.26 | Paulius | Maybe the same is possible with the Internet tablets. |
| 17:44.49 | konttori | By the way, zeenix is working on tracker based upnp server that would run nicely on routers. |
| 17:44.50 | johnx | maybe, we'd need a really dedicated hardware guy to look at it |
| 17:44.59 | johnx | also the board is probably denser on the NITs |
| 17:45.10 | Paulius | obviously. |
| 17:45.23 | Paulius | But unless it's DDR2, it's not using an FCPGA solder method. |
| 17:45.31 | Paulius | It's quite easy to unsolder and resolder. |
| 17:45.48 | johnx | ah, so you're the dedicated hardware guy we need to have do this :D |
| 17:45.51 | Paulius | And no it wouldn't be easy. Would need to get a quite high-density RAM chip. |
| 17:46.12 | AStorm | huh, tar.gz$ |
| 17:46.15 | AStorm | ? |
| 17:46.28 | Paulius | 512 / 8 = 64MB per chip |
| 17:46.35 | Paulius | that would be for 512MB laptop RAM. |
| 17:46.49 | Paulius | And something tells me that it's not that high density. |
| 17:47.12 | johnx | it's mostly applicable to the 770 owners I would think. The N800/N810 isn't quite RAM starved enough that many people would be interested |
| 17:47.25 | AStorm | yup |
| 17:47.28 | Paulius | Well I'm a 770 owner and OS2008 is too friggin slow. |
| 17:47.40 | Paulius | I think I'll be getting an N810 when the prices drop. |
| 17:47.44 | Paulius | I got my 770 for $150. |
| 17:47.56 | Paulius | Now that I know Nokia's profit margins, I really don't want to spend $500 or so on this thing |
| 17:48.02 | AStorm | We'd be more interested ib a second SD slot mod |
| 17:48.15 | Paulius | AStorm: 770 uses MCC |
| 17:48.21 | Paulius | Or is it MSS |
| 17:48.31 | Paulius | or maybe it was WTF or ROTFLMAO |
| 17:48.37 | johnx | RS-MMC? |
| 17:48.40 | Paulius | right |
| 17:48.41 | AStorm | :p |
| 17:48.52 | johnx | or a micro-sd in a cut up piece of plastic :) |
| 17:49.06 | Paulius | Had no idea that that was possible. |
| 17:49.21 | johnx | ITT has all the juicy info |
| 17:49.23 | _V_ | uaarrgh |
| 17:49.37 | _V_ | my 8GB A-Data die |
| 17:49.45 | _V_ | (while on my n800...) |
| 17:50.01 | johnx | _V_, that sucks. Is it completely dead? or just some fs corruption? |
| 17:50.02 | AStorm | heh |
| 17:50.06 | Paulius | That'll teach you not to use cheap Sd cards. |
| 17:50.14 | Paulius | or flash cards |
| 17:50.15 | _V_ | my pc doesn't "see" it at all |
| 17:50.35 | johnx | _V_, are you still using an old version of OS2007? |
| 17:50.42 | _V_ | no, os2008 |
| 17:50.44 | AStorm | sandisk, kingston... |
| 17:50.46 | Paulius | Is OS2007HE faster than 2008? |
| 17:50.56 | johnx | Paulius, at least a little |
| 17:50.56 | _V_ | my OS was installed on that card :-( |
| 17:51.11 | johnx | well that really sucks |
| 17:51.13 | Paulius | johnx: The show stopper for me is the lack of sound, actually. |
| 17:51.22 | _V_ | AStorm: a-data isn't ok ? |
| 17:51.28 | AStorm | _V_: heh, what fs? |
| 17:51.34 | _V_ | ext2 |
| 17:51.37 | johnx | AStorm, I've had nothing but bad luck with sandisk |
| 17:51.40 | AStorm | fail |
| 17:52.04 | AStorm | ext* kill first blocks of the device :P |
| 17:52.05 | Paulius | OS2008 is faster at some things than 2006... |
| 17:52.08 | Paulius | But no sound :-( |
| 17:52.21 | AStorm | johnx: and I haven't |
| 17:52.24 | johnx | had anyone got sound working on it? |
| 17:52.28 | _V_ | AStorm: so which fs ? |
| 17:52.31 | _V_ | fat ? |
| 17:52.44 | AStorm | _V_: well, FAT or btrfs |
| 17:52.50 | Paulius | No idea. I presumed sound worked. |
| 17:52.54 | Paulius | It's weird because it KINDA works. |
| 17:52.56 | AStorm | but you can't use FAT for / |
| 17:53.02 | Paulius | When I close a window or bootup there's sound. |
| 17:53.03 | AStorm | maybe jffs2 |
| 17:53.11 | johnx | AStorm, I wouldn't jump to blaming ext2 for this card's death... |
| 17:53.13 | Paulius | But none from applications (ex: sound settings, mplayer, etc) |
| 17:53.30 | Atarii | default media player sound works |
| 17:53.34 | johnx | and what does mplayer say from the CLI? |
| 17:53.35 | AStorm | johnx: well, I wouldn't too, but it isn't flash-friendly |
| 17:53.36 | Paulius | yeah> |
| 17:53.37 | Paulius | ? |
| 17:54.45 | johnx | can jffs2 be used on a normal block device? |
| 17:55.17 | Paulius | wow media player does work |
| 17:55.21 | Paulius | but it's interface is laggy |
| 17:55.32 | AStorm | johnx: I think so |
| 17:55.43 | AStorm | it requires block layer on top of mmc |
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| 17:55.49 | AStorm | uhm, mtd |
| 17:56.07 | johnx | I was under the impression that it could only work on a plain NAND (or maybe NOR?) flash device |
| 17:56.22 | AStorm | why? |
| 17:56.27 | johnx | dunno |
| 17:56.32 | AStorm | it works on block device level |
| 17:56.45 | johnx | given that you can't even mount a jffs2 image without emulating a mtd device I think there's something special |
| 17:57.08 | AStorm | you can't? bummer |
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| 17:57.23 | AStorm | although emulating mtd on mmc isn't hard |
| 17:57.42 | AStorm | there is a read-only SD driver already |
| 17:58.05 | Paulius | wow it does real media streaming? |
| 17:58.10 | Paulius | how about windows media streaming? |
| 17:58.32 | AStorm | yes, but no DRM |
| 17:58.38 | Paulius | YES! |
| 17:58.42 | AStorm | mplayer does these too |
| 17:58.46 | AStorm | :P |
| 17:58.54 | AStorm | real media it doesn't do |
| 17:59.02 | Paulius | yeah but mplayer doesn't work on os2008 |
| 17:59.11 | AStorm | heh, why? |
| 17:59.17 | Paulius | no idea |
| 17:59.21 | Paulius | ask os2008 |
| 17:59.37 | AStorm | maybe check /etc/mplayer/ |
| 17:59.48 | AStorm | there are a few settings |
| 18:00.17 | johnx | mplayer is very verbose when run from an x terminal. it might be worth a look |
| 18:00.18 | Paulius | other application audio doesn't work aswell |
| 18:00.24 | Paulius | only media player default thingy |
| 18:01.49 | Atarii | yea its weird, on doom you can hear everythin expect when you fire :S |
| 18:02.41 | Atarii | except* |
| 18:02.45 | Paulius | windows media steaming doesn't work |
| 18:02.47 | Paulius | from the looks of it |
| 18:02.57 | AStorm | I sense codec problem. |
| 18:04.42 | Atarii | cp 2007he/codec/* 2008/codec/* |
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| 18:09.39 | johnx | 770/OS2008HE users asking about sound in mplayer: hit this thread and search for mplayer: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16468&highlight=mplayer |
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| 18:10.41 | johnx | good luck, as I'm off to bed |
| 18:10.53 | qwerty12_N800 | night |
| 18:10.58 | johnx | 'night qwerty12_N800 |
| 18:22.07 | Mousey | is it just me or does handwriting recognition on the n8x0 just suck rocks |
| 18:22.31 | Stskeeps | not really, i think it actually does a better job at recognising mine than my peers at university.. |
| 18:22.34 | Stskeeps | :P |
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| 18:24.45 | Mousey | wonder what i'm doing wrong |
| 18:24.58 | _V_ | what's the best, sandisk or kingston ? |
| 18:24.59 | Mousey | beyond having sloppy handwriting and high expectations |
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| 18:29.24 | alfafa | Anyone know of some way to "sync" your firefox opened tabs from your desktop to bookmarks or something for the maemo browser? Could be useful to look at ones opened while on the train |
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| 18:42.09 | ralann | survey says...... |
| 18:42.12 | ralann | n810 will arrive on Thursday :D |
| 18:42.17 | Paulius | cool |
| 18:42.27 | ralann | im soooooo excited |
| 18:42.34 | Paulius | you better be |
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| 18:50.19 | konttori | Run to the shop now to buy a 8 gb mini/micro sd! |
| 18:50.36 | Mousey | needs one |
| 18:51.36 | ralann | meh, i ordered one of those at the same time |
| 18:51.45 | alfafa | ANd don't forget a micro»mine sd adapter ;) |
| 18:51.52 | ralann | got that too |
| 18:52.12 | ralann | has been doing his homework before buying |
| 18:53.28 | penguinbait | whats the homework telling ya? |
| 18:53.47 | penguinbait | I would buy micro |
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| 18:54.24 | ralann | penguinbait: that's what it told me too |
| 18:54.35 | thp | how do i programatically open a new e-mail message and attach a file on maemo (preferable python, but the shell command is also okay) |
| 18:55.03 | ralann | anyway a mini card could not be found for a reasonable price at 8gb |
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| 19:05.09 | ralann | the problem i see with micro cards is that if i had more than one i'd lose the 2nd card because it is smaller than my pinky finger nail |
| 19:05.18 | penguinbait | I just know if I buy a mini, the n900 will only take micro |
| 19:05.29 | penguinbait | its just my luck |
| 19:05.38 | ralann | yeah, i hear that |
| 19:05.39 | penguinbait | I am learning, slowly |
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| 19:08.31 | lcuk2 | Mousey, recognition was crap for me - i redefined L to be as i write it, then when i came to change t it told me i was too similar to L (the original L). so i completely disabled all variations of L and it STILL told me "t" looked like L |
| 19:08.35 | lcuk2 | i havent tried since |
| 19:10.06 | qwerty12_N800 | I never use handwriting recognition on any platform, my writing is extremely bad. (I mean bad to the extreme) |
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| 19:10.51 | ralann | i was a badass at the palm graffiti |
| 19:11.06 | ralann | but then my palm died about a month ago |
| 19:11.52 | ralann | i really hated that thing, but i just couldn't buy anew device when that one still qurked just fine |
| 19:11.55 | lcuk2 | did it go hairy first? |
| 19:12.09 | ralann | hah |
| 19:12.15 | ralann | no |
| 19:12.27 | lcuk2 | ahhh then you must be blind |
| 19:12.33 | ralann | deaf |
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| 19:14.02 | ralann | brb |
| 19:16.11 | adam_ | is there a tutorial that shows how to setup the os on the internal card and change all the boot loader info? |
| 19:16.40 | qwerty12_N800 | ask penguinbait bout his deb :) |
| 19:18.43 | Cptnodegard | can someone give me any url for a web radio? |
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| 19:19.58 | konttori | http://www.shoutcast.com/sbin/shoutcast-playlist.pls?rn=4757&file=filename.pls |
| 19:20.09 | Cptnodegard | thx |
| 19:20.15 | konttori | np |
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| 19:23.21 | penguinbait | qwerty did you try it? |
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| 19:24.02 | penguinbait | adam_ I made a deb to setup the whole process |
| 19:24.19 | qwerty12_N800 | penguinbait, i haven't yet, my sd card has problems with sd boot but I will do in a few weeks :) |
| 19:24.40 | penguinbait | I want to get it all hammered out before next OS release |
| 19:24.59 | penguinbait | best used after a fresh flash |
| 19:25.07 | penguinbait | you have the least to lose :) |
| 19:26.02 | qwerty12_N800 | I'm currently recovering after a fresh flash :p. got the backup and apps restored :) |
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| 19:27.40 | qwerty12_N800 | But i'm unsure if my sd slots are messed up or if it is unsupported sd high speed mode that is giving me i/o errors. |
| 19:28.00 | Cptnodegard | photo casts on canola...does it work with flickr, photobucket? |
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| 19:28.12 | Cptnodegard | nvm |
| 19:28.13 | ImMelody | hello :o |
| 19:28.16 | Cptnodegard | found a rss button |
| 19:28.28 | qwerty12_N800 | ImMelody, hi |
| 19:29.00 | ImMelody | I have done a baaaaaaa~d thing.. I built a computer for my 4 yr old :( |
| 19:29.00 | lsobral | Cptnodegard, photocasts in canola work with flickr, picasa |
| 19:29.15 | lsobral | never tested with photobucket |
| 19:29.47 | qwerty12_N800 | ImMelody, linux + gcompris and you are done :p |
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| 19:30.11 | ImMelody | But how do you turn the speakers off? :P |
| 19:30.32 | ImMelody | Or should I rephrase.. How do you keep the child from turning the speakers back on and putting the volume at max XD |
| 19:31.19 | ImMelody | I had wanted to do linux, but my husband convinced me that windows would be better for him because he has a thomas DOS game he really enjoys |
| 19:31.24 | qwerty12_N800 | connect the speaker to itself, the small subwoofer nearly fell on my foot... bad idea :p |
| 19:31.44 | qwerty12_N800 | disable sound card :p |
| 19:33.31 | ImMelody | It's all these silly toddler websites.. all the instructions and links are sound |
| 19:35.16 | qwerty12_N800 | Ah, if your son hasn't heard about volume control panel, put down wave volume and if he has, go into sound control panel and untick tray option :p |
| 19:37.16 | ImMelody | Will be doing that.. |
| 19:47.41 | konttori | has finished first version of wiimote |
| 19:47.52 | konttori | if anyone is interested in trying it out, let me know. |
| 19:48.16 | ImMelody | what do I need to make it work? |
| 19:48.57 | konttori | Install python |
| 19:48.58 | ImMelody | peripheral wise |
| 19:49.02 | qwerty12_N800 | a wii controller and python |
| 19:49.11 | ImMelody | kk |
| 19:49.27 | ImMelody | I'd like to try it out |
| 19:49.38 | konttori | So, you launch the app. It asks you to push 1+2 on your wiimote. Boom. done. |
| 19:49.57 | konttori | Ok. I'll put it to ukmp garage page for now. |
| 19:51.26 | konttori | Done |
| 19:51.27 | konttori | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/3980/wiicontrol-1.0_all.deb |
| 19:51.50 | konttori | I was just testing doom with it and it's a blast |
| 19:51.58 | konttori | Also, ukmp works pretty well with it |
| 19:52.21 | qwerty12_N800 | och, a proper doom control :o |
| 19:52.24 | konttori | It has two configurations: portrait and landscape. The landscape is really for gaming and the portrait is for general use |
| 19:52.53 | konttori | It also is really nice for the bomberman. |
| 19:53.13 | konttori | button 1 is space and button 2 is enter (in gaming mode). |
| 19:53.31 | konttori | Anyway, I'll try to get it user editable in the nearish future. |
| 19:54.01 | konttori | Tomorrow we have Vappu in finland, which translates to mandatory 2 day drunkness and 3rd to recover period. |
| 19:54.24 | qwerty12_N800 | man, i need to buy a wii controller. not a wii itself though. |
| 19:54.53 | qwerty12_N800 | konttori, knock yourself out ;P |
| 19:55.00 | konttori | Sure will! |
| 19:55.02 | konttori | thanks! |
| 19:55.08 | qwerty12_N800 | hehe |
| 19:55.16 | konttori | Anyway, I'll try to work on the accelerometer stuff a bit on the weekend |
| 19:55.37 | konttori | Lean the mote to strafe would rock. |
| 19:56.39 | konttori | anyway, ImMelody , were you able to try it out? |
| 19:56.52 | konttori | If anyone else has the time, I would appreciate feedback. |
| 19:57.07 | konttori | If it seems good enough for now, I'll then post it to internettablettalk |
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| 19:59.06 | flo_lap | re |
| 20:01.59 | ImMelody | grabbing now, give me a sec for it to install |
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| 20:09.24 | qwerty12_N800 | konttori, common sense says to have bluetooth on but if you don't before running, it crashes :/ |
| 20:09.39 | qwerty12_N800 | make it run dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.SetMode string:discoverable ? |
| 20:09.43 | konttori | THanks! |
| 20:09.49 | ImMelody | I'm having trouble getting the wiimote to do anything after one or two commands |
| 20:10.11 | konttori | Hmm... So, does the mote still have lights on? |
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| 20:10.28 | ImMelody | yep |
| 20:10.40 | ImMelody | and moving it does bring the light back up, but doesn't do much action |
| 20:10.52 | konttori | Well, click on the portrait mode. |
| 20:11.01 | konttori | press A to see if it still works. |
| 20:11.19 | konttori | Now, I've been testing this only on diablo, so there may be some differences in teh BT stack. |
| 20:11.40 | qwerty12_N800 | gimme bluez debs :p |
| 20:11.40 | konttori | thanks qwerty12_N800 . I'll check that dbus message |
| 20:12.13 | konttori | ;) You'll get those sooner or later. |
| 20:12.37 | qwerty12_N800 | konttori, np :), i copied it from switchonbt :p. if bluetooth is already on, it does nothing :) |
| 20:13.06 | ImMelody | I got it to bring up the home screen, but can't replicate it |
| 20:13.25 | ImMelody | in either landscape or portrait mode |
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| 20:13.54 | konttori | Pressing B+any button brings alt action. |
| 20:14.14 | konttori | So, you probably pressed it and some other key at the same time. Lemme see the code which you pressed |
| 20:14.17 | ImMelody | not getting anything happening |
| 20:14.23 | ImMelody | oki |
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| 20:15.14 | konttori | http://pastebin.com/m4a10e86a |
| 20:16.07 | ImMelody | so I killed it? |
| 20:17.16 | konttori | qwerty12_N800: So, do I basically run that string as command line executable |
| 20:17.32 | qwerty12_N800 | yes, i did it in xterm |
| 20:17.51 | ImMelody | okay...now it's working :D |
| 20:18.23 | qwerty12_N800 | not sure how in python but whatever exec method to run external progs is used should work :) |
| 20:18.44 | ImMelody | except... I got it working and closed out the program, lol |
| 20:19.09 | ImMelody | uh-oh.. I crashed it :o |
| 20:21.01 | lopz | how view colors in xterm ? |
| 20:21.13 | qwerty12_N800 | you can also use dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.SetMode string:connectable if you want the n8*0 to be hidden |
| 20:21.23 | konttori | qwerty12_N800: Worked |
| 20:21.31 | qwerty12_N800 | cool :) |
| 20:21.32 | konttori | I'm now building a new deb. |
| 20:22.52 | konttori | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/3981/wiicontrol-1.0_all.deb |
| 20:22.57 | konttori | Same link, but new deb |
| 20:23.46 | konttori | ImMelody: When you close the app, you need to then once click on the wiimote to severe the connection |
| 20:24.13 | konttori | I wasn't able to figure out a nice way to interrupt the listener thread. |
| 20:24.21 | konttori | I'll try to work on that later on. |
| 20:24.46 | konttori | there is a kThread available, but I'd rather do it the nice way if possible |
| 20:24.57 | konttori | kThread stands for killable Thread |
| 20:25.20 | ImMelody | hrm..what happens if your wii is on when you try to run this app? |
| 20:25.29 | qwerty12_N800 | i think i need one. my browser is hung. my cpu is really high :/ |
| 20:25.36 | qwerty12_N800 | kthread that is |
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| 20:26.55 | GnutoN810 | hi |
| 20:26.57 | GnutoN810 | sera |
| 20:27.57 | konttori | ImMelody: Nothing. |
| 20:28.46 | konttori | It should work just fine. |
| 20:29.43 | konttori | posted wiicontrol to internettablettalk: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=176088#post176088 |
| 20:30.56 | woodwizzle | I'm setting up my device again before I flash it to my internal card. It says e2fsprogs is required and I'm about to apt-get it. Is ext2 the filesystem I really want to run though? would ext3 be better? Or should I be worried about the journaling taking up more space and write cycles? |
| 20:31.05 | konttori | qwerty12_N800: I stand corrected |
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| 20:31.35 | qwerty12_N800 | konttori, how come? something wrong? |
| 20:32.10 | konttori | Ah... sorry. I though you corrected that kthread is with lower case, not capital t |
| 20:32.22 | ImMelody | thank GAWD! 5 min for maemo sdk download |
| 20:33.15 | konttori | woodwizzle: I would take ext3. |
| 20:33.34 | konttori | it's not too bad to have the journaling. even the default fs is journaled |
| 20:33.45 | qwerty12_N800 | konttori, hehe it's 9:35 PM and I'm typing off an n800. night & n800 osk = bad typing. actually it's +2 in Finland right? |
| 20:34.03 | konttori | it's 25 min to midninght |
| 20:34.18 | konttori | so, yeah, +2 |
| 20:34.31 | konttori | is about to retire to bed. |
| 20:34.32 | ImMelody | Europeans :P |
| 20:34.55 | qwerty12_N800 | In london, we set the time :p |
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| 20:35.38 | lcuk | dont you dont |
| 20:35.47 | konttori | in greenwitch there is actually the timeline and you can hop to either side of it. Nice for pictures |
| 20:35.51 | lcuk | some little village nearby does, you are just trying to be a gloryseeker :P |
| 20:35.52 | ImMelody | In the US, we think we're the center of the universe. (j/k partially) |
| 20:36.56 | qwerty12_N800 | konttori, I've been there :) |
| 20:37.04 | Mousey | lcuk: yea, i'm underwhelme |
| 20:37.04 | Mousey | d |
| 20:37.40 | qwerty12_N800 | lcuk, greenwich a village? :p |
| 20:37.46 | woodwizzle | knottori doesn't ext2 and even more so ext3 take up a lot more write cycles than vfat? |
| 20:38.00 | Mousey | is there a way to sync the palm calandar with some calandar app in maemo (besides GarneVM's) |
| 20:38.12 | woodwizzle | konttori: woops spelled your name wrong =) |
| 20:38.16 | konttori | they eat a bit, but not so much. And they are more reliable |
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| 22:02.40 | *** topic/#maemo is development platform for Nokia Internet Tablets | http://freedesktop.org/Software/sbox2/Maemo | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | http://www.gronmayer.com/it | http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/chinook |
| 22:02.48 | AStorm | it'd need adaptations |
| 22:02.55 | AStorm | like dsme and bme |
| 22:03.07 | AStorm | and some wifi driver work :P |
| 22:03.34 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/Das_Wimmin.jpg european women ++ |
| 22:03.45 | Mousey | they're fat? |
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| 22:04.43 | lcuk | they dont look at you? |
| 22:05.28 | Mousey | i hope they're not too smart |
| 22:05.46 | Atarii | is there a UFO behinf that tree? :S |
| 22:05.52 | Atarii | behind* |
| 22:06.01 | Mousey | http://digg.com/odd_stuff/Smarter_Women_Have_Worse_Sex |
| 22:06.08 | pupnik | you mean the streetlamp? |
| 22:06.14 | sp3000 | Atarii: no, a terrier in a red outfit |
| 22:06.20 | KotCzarny | it's all in the brain |
| 22:06.44 | Atarii | no at the very top of teh tree |
| 22:06.44 | Mousey | that's not a space heater? |
| 22:06.50 | KotCzarny | and some friction too, but it's all in the brain |
| 22:06.57 | lcuk | pupnik, no, at the very top - look to left of lamppost and up |
| 22:07.05 | sp3000 | doesn't want friction on his brain |
| 22:07.11 | Mousey | HA! |
| 22:07.16 | Mousey | how'd that get u there?! |
| 22:07.20 | pupnik | the red thing? dunno - something caught in the tree |
| 22:07.26 | Mousey | looks like a traffic cone |
| 22:07.30 | Atarii | looks kinda like a wizards hat |
| 22:07.41 | KotCzarny | must be windy |
| 22:07.44 | lcuk | kids rainbow balloon |
| 22:07.48 | pupnik | you guys are sad to not be appreciatin the sharp dressed woman |
| 22:07.52 | KotCzarny | or birds |
| 22:08.02 | lcuk | pup, shes looking away and fully dressed |
| 22:08.08 | lcuk | we need something to focus on ;) |
| 22:08.09 | Atarii | lol |
| 22:08.13 | KotCzarny | no face |
| 22:08.23 | KotCzarny | you don't have any proof it IS a woman |
| 22:08.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 22:08.24 | pupnik | yeah but hair |
| 22:08.27 | Mousey | it's a traffic cone! |
| 22:08.32 | pupnik | lol |
| 22:08.34 | lcuk | and a frikkin winter coat :P |
| 22:08.34 | Mousey | she's looking at it too i bet |
| 22:08.47 | KotCzarny | bah. |
| 22:09.02 | KotCzarny | want me to find pics of men that looks like a women? |
| 22:09.04 | Mousey | do traffic cones in trees very often in europe? it's very odd to see one randomly up there |
| 22:09.10 | Mousey | KotCzarny: rule 34 |
| 22:09.13 | KotCzarny | with hair and coats? |
| 22:09.17 | KotCzarny | mousey: cone |
| 22:10.07 | Atarii | hmm why is that one repo disabled by default for 2008he? |
| 22:10.30 | KotCzarny | because it contains not nokia approved software |
| 22:11.05 | Atarii | thats annoying, because it means that backup cant re-download the packages automatically |
| 22:11.12 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 22:11.20 | KotCzarny | i think there's a bug filled for that |
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| 22:14.43 | AStorm | KotCzarny: testing lftp now |
| 22:15.50 | AStorm | works fine :) |
| 22:16.10 | AStorm | excellent |
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| 22:18.45 | Atarii | can you use script to automate ftp transfer with lftp> |
| 22:18.49 | Atarii | ?* |
| 22:19.23 | AStorm | yes |
| 22:19.35 | AStorm | but it has mirroring built in |
| 22:19.43 | AStorm | and wildcards |
| 22:21.07 | AStorm | where do I get ogg-support 0.7? |
| 22:21.31 | AStorm | for new lms-ogg |
| 22:24.50 | zakkkm_n770 | is it possible to get 2008HE image viwer in 2007HE ? |
| 22:24.53 | zakkkm_n770 | the default one |
| 22:24.55 | zakkkm_n770 | i really liked it :( |
| 22:25.07 | zakkkm_n770 | the fullscren .. left and right arrows and all |
| 22:25.41 | AStorm | get canola and forget about that |
| 22:25.43 | AStorm | :P |
| 22:25.54 | zakkkm_n770 | canola on the 2007HE? |
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| 22:27.03 | zakkkm_n770 | is there? 2007 HE? |
| 22:27.09 | zakkkm_n770 | canola on it? |
| 22:27.38 | AStorm | should be a package |
| 22:27.45 | zakkkm_n770 | from repo ? or net? |
| 22:27.49 | AStorm | the one for OS2007 might work |
| 22:28.01 | AStorm | yes |
| 22:28.27 | zakkkm_n770 | dang someone wants me to do something |
| 22:28.29 | zakkkm_n770 | ill check later |
| 22:28.32 | zakkkm_n770 | thanks |
| 22:29.15 | AStorm | ok, more win coming |
| 22:29.28 | AStorm | ogg-support 0.7 and real lms support |
| 22:29.38 | AStorm | and no libvorbis0a |
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| 22:48.43 | KotCzarny | argh. |
| 22:48.52 | AStorm | hmm? |
| 22:48.53 | KotCzarny | gi tract sensations |
| 22:49.10 | AStorm | yay, on antibiotics? |
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| 22:49.16 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 22:49.24 | AStorm | flu? |
| 22:49.33 | KotCzarny | who knows |
| 22:50.13 | AStorm | hehe |
| 22:50.27 | AStorm | deadly E. Coli variant ;) |
| 22:50.31 | AStorm | messy death |
| 22:50.34 | KotCzarny | you bet not |
| 22:50.41 | KotCzarny | who would compile packages for you then :P |
| 22:50.50 | AStorm | myself, but later |
| 22:51.02 | KotCzarny | wishful thinking |
| 22:51.03 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 22:51.09 | AStorm | but I wish you that *NOT* |
| 22:51.17 | AStorm | heh, why? :P |
| 22:51.57 | KotCzarny | seeing that you still haven't installed it |
| 22:51.58 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 22:53.54 | AStorm | KotCzarny: soon, in the long weekend |
| 22:53.57 | AStorm | btw |
| 22:54.00 | AStorm | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escherichia_coli_O157:H7 |
| 22:54.02 | AStorm | :P |
| 22:54.08 | KotCzarny | repo will be down then :P |
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| 22:55.46 | AStorm | KotCzarny: naah |
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| 22:55.59 | AStorm | they're not that deadly |
| 22:56.09 | KotCzarny | happened before |
| 22:56.13 | KotCzarny | can happen again |
| 22:56.14 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 23:01.55 | AStorm | need to write canola xchat irc spam script |
| 23:02.05 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 23:03.43 | AStorm | United Abominations++ |
| 23:03.49 | zakkkm_n770 | where would i find the repo list and url's for 2007HE? |
| 23:05.12 | AStorm | might be hard |
| 23:08.03 | zakkkm_n770 | ? |
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| 23:15.08 | zakkkm_n770 | whats minimo 0.2 ? |
| 23:16.13 | smackpotato | googles minimo |
| 23:16.53 | smackpotato | i remember now |
| 23:17.59 | smackpotato | it was a browser some brasillian guy put together. it worked good but didn't download files |
| 23:18.12 | zakkkm_n770 | i dont downlaod on it? |
| 23:18.17 | zakkkm_n770 | would it be better than the default then? |
| 23:18.21 | zakkkm_n770 | i dont download on browser |
| 23:18.27 | zakkkm_n770 | just surf |
| 23:18.49 | woodwizzle | i am now booting from the internal memory card, however .. the tutorial i used told me to make a 400mb VFAT partition which isn't used. :( Why did I need to do that? Also how do I set up virtual memory now, the virtual memory tab doesn't think I have an internal memory card so it won't let me make virtual memory |
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| 23:19.00 | smackpotato | its kind ofv fun to check these thing ouut |
| 23:19.14 | zakkkm_n770 | i know i been doing that for days |
| 23:19.18 | zakkkm_n770 | random stuff on the nokia |
| 23:19.24 | zakkkm_n770 | but now i really have to make it uhmm well stable in a way |
| 23:19.30 | zakkkm_n770 | and stick to it |
| 23:21.27 | smackpotato | make sure u have the latest os |
| 23:23.00 | zakkkm_n770 | i have 2007HE |
| 23:24.12 | woodwizzle | i don't wanna haev a unused partition if its not needed. I could fit a lot of mp3s in those 400megabytes |
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| 23:25.44 | smackpotato | zakkmm this script prevents some crashes but also slows things down |
| 23:25.48 | smackpotato | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/seatbelt/ |
| 23:26.26 | woodwizzle | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_Partition_your_MMC_card/ is the part of the tutorial I ran that told me to mk the vfat partition. Anyone know if it was necessary? |
| 23:27.10 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 23:27.13 | KotCzarny | but useful |
| 23:27.14 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:27.28 | woodwizzle | KotCzarny: useful for what? |
| 23:27.46 | KotCzarny | some apps are hardcoded for using it |
| 23:27.59 | woodwizzle | ah |
| 23:28.05 | KotCzarny | and windows compatibility |
| 23:28.05 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:28.16 | woodwizzle | i don't run windows |
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| 23:28.33 | woodwizzle | i might not run those apps too =) |
| 23:28.33 | KotCzarny | then it doesn't matter |
| 23:28.49 | woodwizzle | do you know what apps require it? |
| 23:29.05 | KotCzarny | hmm |
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| 23:31.14 | lcdd | app manager in os2008 uses the card for apt cache by default |
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| 23:31.42 | lcdd | probably previous versions do as well |
| 23:32.39 | woodwizzle | ah |
| 23:33.36 | woodwizzle | :( that makes me unhappy because i use the app manager |
| 23:33.50 | KotCzarny | it should work though |
| 23:34.03 | KotCzarny | because you will have enough space |
| 23:34.10 | woodwizzle | oh good |
| 23:34.11 | woodwizzle | I'm sold |
| 23:34.22 | woodwizzle | gotta repartition and flash though :( |
| 23:34.25 | woodwizzle | thanks! |
| 23:34.33 | KotCzarny | otherwise one wouldn't be able to install anything on n800 without any card :) |
| 23:35.48 | lcdd | i noticed that maemo mapper hogs memory when tracking is enabled which probably crashes it in the end |
| 23:36.02 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 23:36.09 | KotCzarny | oom is ruthless |
| 23:36.10 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:36.18 | KotCzarny | oom-killer |
| 23:36.27 | lcdd | two hours worth of data took around 40MB of memory iirc |
| 23:37.11 | woodwizzle | what about setting the virtual memory? |
| 23:37.50 | woodwizzle | do I have to do it with something like swapon from the terminal? |
| 23:39.59 | pupnik | swap on |
| 23:40.02 | pupnik | swap off |
| 23:40.07 | pupnik | swap on swap off... |
| 23:40.09 | pupnik | the swapper |
| 23:40.12 | woodwizzle | the swapper |
| 23:40.47 | pupnik | :) |
| 23:41.06 | woodwizzle | can I maybe make the VFAT partition I'm not using into a linux swap partition? |
| 23:41.14 | woodwizzle | so I don't have to reflash and start over? |
| 23:41.37 | pupnik | i do not understand |
| 23:41.42 | woodwizzle | solve 2 birds with 1 stone |
| 23:42.07 | pupnik | you can reformat a vfat into an ext2 or other partition |
| 23:42.42 | woodwizzle | pupnik: right, but I want to set it up as virtual memory |
| 23:43.13 | lcdd | swap file works just fine |
| 23:43.33 | pupnik | yes what is advantage over swap file |
| 23:43.49 | woodwizzle | I can't make a swap file! |
| 23:44.10 | woodwizzle | the virtual memory tab says that I don't have an internal memory card |
| 23:44.26 | woodwizzle | because I'm running my OS from that memory card |
| 23:44.58 | pupnik | i have a 770 that boots from memory card, and i think it worked with swap |
| 23:45.01 | woodwizzle | so what I want to do... is make my currently unused 512mb vfat partition, the area that my swap file would be in |
| 23:45.19 | woodwizzle | well i have an n800 and its not |
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