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| 00:12.16 | lcuk2 | jott, post that idea up on linuxdevelopers and we can discuss properly |
| 00:12.31 | lcuk2 | sounds like a plan though |
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| 03:31.30 | WormFood | I just started playing with that NumptyPhysics game last night....and it seems pretty fuckin' cool! |
| 03:32.16 | Navi | Sure is |
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| 04:04.16 | tsukasa_ | altsld vls, kjd nd;k rpaid ks nft a l800 gl naluvsv{ |
| 04:04.35 | shapr | um |
| 04:04.35 | tsukasa_ | goddamn dvorak switching |
| 04:04.36 | shapr | really? |
| 04:04.41 | shapr | aoeu htns? |
| 04:05.23 | GeneralAntilles | Haha, tsukasa_. |
| 04:05.28 | GeneralAntilles | I switched a few years ago. |
| 04:05.32 | tsukasa_ | anyone know of a place to get a n800 in bangkok? |
| 04:05.55 | tsukasa_ | im in the process of learning it |
| 04:06.01 | GeneralAntilles | Nokia doesn't really sell to asia |
| 04:06.06 | GeneralAntilles | It's gonna be a pain to find. |
| 04:06.35 | tsukasa_ | how about shipped to asia |
| 04:07.33 | tsukasa_ | surely some online store does intl shipping |
| 04:07.45 | GeneralAntilles | Not anything I know of off-hand |
| 04:07.50 | GeneralAntilles | I can't say I've investigated, though. |
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| 04:22.17 | WormFood | tsukasa_, I'm in China...I'd be willing to sell you my N800 for the right price (it has a 4 gig sd card with it too) |
| 04:23.08 | WormFood | I don't have the box or the docs with it, but I do have the spare stylus and charger with it...I bought it in late January |
| 04:23.12 | tsukasa_ | WormFood, not for me my friend, how much? |
| 04:24.39 | WormFood | I'd take 1800 RMB for it |
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| 04:25.01 | WormFood | I got the memory card in usa too (sandisk), so it isn't counterfeit |
| 04:25.38 | WormFood | the memory card is useless to me without the n800....it of course comes with the original SD card too, but it is only 128 meg |
| 04:25.52 | smackpotato | i just bought a counterfit blue dongle |
| 04:26.05 | tank-man | dongle for what |
| 04:26.11 | WormFood | bluetooth |
| 04:26.16 | smackpotato | bluetooth |
| 04:26.56 | smackpotato | its adress was 11.11.11.11.11.11 |
| 04:27.36 | tank-man | heh |
| 04:28.09 | smackpotato | its ok solong as noone near has the szme fake one |
| 04:29.11 | smackpotato | a spirl? |
| 04:29.29 | WormFood | I can get all kinds of counterfeit stuff here ;) |
| 04:29.37 | WormFood | I think everything here is counterfeit |
| 04:30.20 | smackpotato | where are you |
| 04:30.25 | WormFood | but I did buy some verbatim DVDs I think are real....and my friend bought some chinese branded DVDs, and every one of those pieces of shit are bvd |
| 04:30.31 | WormFood | I'm in Shenzhen |
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| 04:30.58 | WormFood | or should I say...I'm in æ·±å³, ä¸å½ |
| 04:31.11 | smackpotato | i heard in shanghi they counterfit everything but your grandmother |
| 04:31.16 | WormFood | indeed |
| 04:31.31 | WormFood | Remember the dangerous toys? They are made where I live :D |
| 04:32.53 | smackpotato | i was in shenzen 20 years ago |
| 04:33.04 | WormFood | when it was a fishing village? |
| 04:33.11 | WormFood | you wouldn't recognize the city now ;) |
| 04:33.52 | smackpotato | no there was some development. i didnt notic much i just caught the train |
| 04:35.41 | smackpotato | so whats the hot counterfit item to have |
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| 04:37.36 | WormFood | I don't know |
| 04:38.07 | WormFood | since almost everything here is counterfeit |
| 04:38.38 | WormFood | I even visited a card factory, they make PVC (plastic) cards, like credit cards....and in their samples were counterfeit tags for gucci and omega watches |
| 04:38.45 | WormFood | bwhahahaha |
| 04:39.06 | WormFood | other counterfeit tags, but I can't remember their names now |
| 04:39.10 | WormFood | I have some as samples :D |
| 04:39.20 | WormFood | it was pretty cool....they even make smart cards there |
| 04:39.54 | WormFood | I saw the milling machines drilling out the cavities for the smart cards, and the machine installing the smart card chips |
| 04:40.05 | WormFood | they wouldn't let me take any pictures, but I wanted to |
| 04:40.24 | WormFood | so if any of you guys want to get business cards made, I can do some pretty cool stuff at a very reasonable price |
| 04:41.10 | WormFood | they can even make transparent cards...holograms...gold and silver reflective decorations....anything you've seen before, they can make |
| 04:41.52 | WormFood | raised lettering, like on credit cards, pictures.....every type of card I've ever seen, they can make....magnetic stripes...freaking amazing |
| 04:42.28 | smackpotato | im the only guy in northamerica who doesntt have a platnem card |
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| 04:43.17 | WormFood | I guess so |
| 04:43.19 | WormFood | hehehe |
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| 04:43.49 | WormFood | I don't even own a credit card, but I have 2 with my name on them |
| 04:43.49 | WormFood | hhhhmmmm |
| 04:44.02 | smackpotato | are there fake nokias |
| 04:44.04 | WormFood | my mom added me to her credit card accounts, and I now have 2 credit cards in my name, but not my account |
| 04:44.07 | WormFood | I don't know |
| 04:44.19 | WormFood | I saw a nokia factory here |
| 04:44.25 | WormFood | I think the nokia factory was in dongguan |
| 04:48.10 | WormFood | I know there are counterfeit batteries all over the place |
| 04:48.35 | smackpotato | some of them work ok |
| 04:48.57 | WormFood | I bought a "new" battery for my laptop for under $30 |
| 04:51.09 | smackpotato | any chep small laptops |
| 04:51.31 | smackpotato | cheap |
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| 04:51.48 | WormFood | I can get used IBM thinkpads here all day long |
| 04:52.02 | WormFood | the electronics and computer flea markets here are incredible |
| 04:52.29 | WormFood | funny thing is, new laptops here cost just as much as in usa....and the make the fuckers here! |
| 04:52.42 | alp | hey, any idea how to install existing debs with sb2? |
| 04:52.52 | alp | sb2 dpkg -i libicu36_3.6-2_armel.deb: dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege |
| 04:53.04 | czr | alp, prepend with 'fakeroot' |
| 04:53.20 | WormFood | make yourself root |
| 04:53.35 | WormFood | I like the "root" package best, because you just type "root" and you become root |
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| 04:55.52 | alp | czr: now complains that package architecture (armel) does not match system (i386), even though chinook40_armel is selected with sb2-config |
| 04:56.06 | czr | what about sb2 fakeroot dpkg ... |
| 04:57.17 | alp | neither way round does it. |
| 04:57.33 | alp | same dpkg error |
| 04:57.43 | czr | shrugs then |
| 04:57.46 | czr | haven't used sb2 |
| 04:59.10 | alp | thanks, got me a bit further at least |
| 05:01.59 | doc|home | can someone do me a favour and bookmark www.engadget.com (without visiting the site) then visit the site and tell me what the icon looks like in the bookmarks? |
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| 05:15.11 | n800n | personal menu = safe? |
| 05:15.58 | n800n | i haven't backed up yet the tablet and it's in a pretty nice spot |
| 05:16.05 | n800n | just wondering. |
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| 05:23.21 | GeneralAntilles | Perfectly, n800n. |
| 05:23.55 | n800n | cool |
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| 05:31.50 | n800n | hm what would be the reason for app dld/installing to hang? |
| 05:34.11 | GeneralAntilles | What are you installing? |
| 05:35.40 | n800n | p menu off the maemo site |
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| 05:43.16 | keesj | n800 usualy requiring user intervention |
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| 05:52.44 | n800n | the instal instructions bad i think, it worked thru app manager |
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| 06:10.45 | _polto_ | hello |
| 06:14.28 | tsukasa_ | ht |
| 06:14.30 | tsukasa_ | hi |
| 06:16.37 | keesj | hi |
| 06:18.30 | tsukasa_ | does firefox plugins work for the n800? |
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| 06:20.30 | _polto_ | I think some people here would be happy to see this: http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=GeoTagging & http://wiki.elphel.com/index.php?title=Pricing/Discount/Donation_Policy#Free_of_charge_camera_for_developers |
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| 07:58.57 | bigup | Hello :) |
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| 08:02.01 | p| | V2-Day oggi ,andate a votare i 3 referendum mi raccomando ! |
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| 08:05.54 | Tama^2 | ?? |
| 08:06.09 | Tama^2 | p|: wtf? :) |
| 08:06.26 | Tama^2 | which referendum? |
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| 08:10.13 | hendry | what is a type `sb2 debuild args` for cross compiling with maemo chinook ? |
| 08:12.09 | RST38h | ? |
| 08:14.00 | hendry | s/type/typical |
| 08:14.13 | Jaffa | hendry: `sb2' is Scratchbox 2 - a newer build system for developing maemo. `debuild' is a Debian command for building .deb files for a source tree. `args' correspon... ah |
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| 08:16.51 | hendry | my debuild seems to still think it's in a 486 environ |
| 08:16.56 | hendry | instead of the arm |
| 08:17.08 | hendry | i am guess i need to pass an architecture argument |
| 08:17.17 | RST38h | what bootstrap are you using for sb2? |
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| 08:18.40 | hendry | chinook |
| 08:18.47 | RST38h | armel or x86? |
| 08:19.01 | RST38h | there are two, I think |
| 08:19.22 | hendry | i am a little confused here |
| 08:19.32 | hendry | why there is a x86 bootstrap there |
| 08:19.37 | RST38h | For debugging |
| 08:19.41 | hendry | because don't I obviously want to build for arm |
| 08:19.46 | RST38h | You debug on PC using x86 boostrap |
| 08:19.48 | hendry | well i want to build for arm |
| 08:19.53 | hendry | oh |
| 08:19.57 | RST38h | Then use armel boostrap for release |
| 08:20.02 | hendry | ok, well, I just want to compile this arm |
| 08:20.09 | hendry | RST38h: how do i select that please? |
| 08:20.22 | RST38h | (In fact, I never build with x86 bootstrap - it is pretty useless because it behaves differently from the armel] |
| 08:20.30 | hendry | RST38h: word |
| 08:20.36 | RST38h | hendry: I do not remember - refer to sb2 manual |
| 08:20.47 | RST38h | has done it once and forgot |
| 08:22.37 | Jaffa | hasn't used sb2 much yet |
| 08:22.50 | RST38h | Jaffa: you should, it is such a relief... |
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| 08:23.30 | RST38h | I am basically building from the same source base as Unix/Windows/MSDOS/etc and even the Makefile is pretty much the same as the Unix one |
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| 08:34.38 | Khertan | Hi ! |
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| 08:55.35 | CVirus | Are there SIP and IAX clients for mameo ? |
| 08:57.23 | aquatix | gizmo talks sip |
| 08:57.25 | Jaffa | SIP: Gizmo & rtcomm-beta. Dunno about IAX |
| 08:57.33 | aquatix | and rtcomm-beta too indeed |
| 08:58.12 | Jaffa | should get around to trying that, but I'm too busy reformatting my internal SD card which has finally been bitten by the corruption bug. |
| 08:58.16 | Jaffa | Colour me unimpressed. |
| 08:58.27 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 08:58.30 | KotCzarny | jaffa, n810 ? |
| 08:58.33 | Jaffa | aye |
| 08:58.48 | KotCzarny | it should be written with big letters on maemo.org |
| 08:59.03 | KotCzarny | that factory default is a time bomb |
| 08:59.15 | Jaffa | It's really nasty |
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| 08:59.36 | KotCzarny | it's just a wrong size |
| 08:59.45 | KotCzarny | bigger than physical geometry |
| 08:59.59 | KotCzarny | few kb more, but enough to corrupt sooner or later |
| 09:00.31 | RST38h | I wonder whether the next firmware update will come with the same problem... |
| 09:00.46 | KotCzarny | and i have observed that on original n-gage it also creates wrong partition size |
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| 09:01.12 | KotCzarny | rst: firmware update would have to repartition sd on n810 |
| 09:01.30 | KotCzarny | and i doubt they will risk overwriting user's data |
| 09:01.40 | Khertan | <KotCzarny> that factory default is a time bomb ?? |
| 09:01.46 | RST38h | Doesn;t it wipe mmc2 when installing? |
| 09:01.47 | KotCzarny | khertan: yes |
| 09:01.50 | KotCzarny | do sfdisk -l |
| 09:01.54 | KotCzarny | and see for yourself |
| 09:02.07 | KotCzarny | partition size blocks is bigger than physical gemetry |
| 09:02.10 | KotCzarny | geometry |
| 09:02.23 | KotCzarny | rst: i don't know, i have n800 |
| 09:02.32 | Khertan | sfdisk ? |
| 09:02.38 | KotCzarny | khertan: yes |
| 09:02.49 | KotCzarny | it will list your partitions |
| 09:03.04 | Khertan | ah hum ... sorry path is incorrect for user |
| 09:03.12 | KotCzarny | you have to be root |
| 09:03.19 | KotCzarny | you can try /sbin/sfdisk -l |
| 09:03.29 | Khertan | what i ve done |
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| 09:04.23 | Jaffa | RST38h: reflashing doesn't touch either internal or external SD cards |
| 09:04.33 | Khertan | mmcb1k1p1 start expected (3,29,9) found (0,130,3) |
| 09:04.38 | Khertan | ouch |
| 09:05.05 | Khertan | hopefully it only store swap ... :) |
| 09:05.15 | Khertan | and temporary video |
| 09:05.39 | Jaffa | and part of the built-in map install |
| 09:05.50 | KotCzarny | i assume they do some tricks with geometry to hide some lock data |
| 09:05.50 | RST38h | Jaffa: Good to know (I have got stuff on mmc2) |
| 09:06.16 | KotCzarny | at least that was the case on n-gage |
| 09:08.01 | KotCzarny | and i think once disk gets full it hits physical gemetry boundary and writes on the beginning of the card |
| 09:08.02 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 09:08.34 | KotCzarny | *geometry |
| 09:08.41 | Jaffa | Exactly. I filled mine up with music thinking I'd corrected the partition size mismatch, but hadn't. |
| 09:09.34 | KotCzarny | i wonder if there is a bug filled for that |
| 09:09.56 | Jaffa | For the size mismatch or the fact the kernel could handle it as a bugfix? |
| 09:10.15 | KotCzarny | for the wrong partition size |
| 09:11.03 | Jaffa | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2940 |
| 09:12.25 | Khertan | so a simple format from file manager correct it ? |
| 09:12.25 | KotCzarny | no resolution |
| 09:12.27 | KotCzarny | hum |
| 09:12.30 | KotCzarny | no |
| 09:12.33 | Khertan | arg |
| 09:12.35 | KotCzarny | you have to repartition it |
| 09:12.43 | KotCzarny | format doesn't touch partition table |
| 09:12.48 | Khertan | hum ... yes |
| 09:12.50 | Khertan | i m stupid |
| 09:12.54 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 09:13.04 | Jaffa | Didn't someone say a format in Windows would do it? |
| 09:13.34 | KotCzarny | resolution is a simple one liner |
| 09:13.36 | derf | Are you really going to take advice from someone who uses Windows? |
| 09:13.39 | KotCzarny | sfdisk && mkdosfs |
| 09:14.02 | Jaffa | derf: do I trust anything running on the device itself when it comes to partitioning these days? |
| 09:14.05 | KotCzarny | i don't have access to n810 do i can't provide numbers |
| 09:14.19 | derf | Oh, I repartitioned over USB, sure. |
| 09:14.20 | KotCzarny | *so |
| 09:14.39 | CVirus | Can the N810 get an internet connection via USB ? |
| 09:14.41 | derf | And blew away the steaming pile of crap that is FAT to replace it with ext3, while I was at it. |
| 09:14.45 | Khertan | hum how do u do a & on the n810 keyboard ? |
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| 09:14.56 | KotCzarny | shift 7 ? |
| 09:14.57 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 09:15.33 | Khertan | (i ve this stupid keyboard ... nammed azerty) |
| 09:15.50 | derf | Astoundingly, all of the SD-card related instabilities I'd been experiencing vanished when I dropped FAT. |
| 09:15.52 | KotCzarny | derf: i have left vfat, some packages rely on /media/mmc2 |
| 09:16.11 | derf | It's still mounted at /media/mmc2 |
| 09:16.31 | derf | It's just using a real filesystem now. |
| 09:16.35 | KotCzarny | i boot from it |
| 09:16.36 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 09:17.00 | derf | Well, no one says you can't have _two_ partitions that both use a real filesystem. |
| 09:17.12 | KotCzarny | ok ok :) |
| 09:17.31 | KotCzarny | Bug 2802 appears to be a duplicate; although I might have accidentally hijacked |
| 09:17.31 | KotCzarny | it for a different bug (filesystem corruption even when the partition is |
| 09:17.31 | KotCzarny | smaller than the device size). |
| 09:17.40 | KotCzarny | heh, vfat fun? |
| 09:18.04 | Khertan | vfat isn't a filesystem ... it s well know |
| 09:18.34 | KotCzarny | my guess nokia plays some tricks with it |
| 09:19.07 | derf | It's not even just the filesystem... the kernel's implementation seems to interact very badly with the mmc driver. |
| 09:19.45 | derf | While ext3 does not... presumably because whoever wrote the ext3 filesystem for the kernel actually knew what they were doing. |
| 09:20.45 | derf | But with FAT I would get constant failures to read the card, even claiming the entire thing was corrupt, and I'd power-cycle the thing and everything would look fine (for 30 minutes or so, anyway). |
| 09:21.40 | woodwizzle | has anyone seen the 32gb SDHC chips for sale anywhere? |
| 09:22.04 | woodwizzle | I've only found one on google shopping for over $400. kinda ridiculous |
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| 09:23.20 | KotCzarny | ..on a preorder? ;) |
| 09:25.15 | woodwizzle | I'm not sure. I didn't even click that far to find out when I saw the pricetag |
| 09:25.34 | woodwizzle | and yeah, it is a preorder =) |
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| 09:27.10 | woodwizzle | That would make a 64gb n800 cost a grand |
| 09:27.45 | KotCzarny | imagine corrupting 32gb |
| 09:27.53 | Khertan | hihi |
| 09:28.04 | lardman | morning |
| 09:28.09 | derf | Yeah, and at that point it would have more storage than a lot of sub-$1000 laptops. |
| 09:28.11 | KotCzarny | mourning |
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| 09:29.00 | KotCzarny | 2x cf -- ide adapter is ~30$ |
| 09:29.14 | KotCzarny | and high capacity cf cards are cheaper |
| 09:29.19 | woodwizzle | Yeah but it wouldn't be in the sub $1000 catagory itself |
| 09:29.44 | KotCzarny | 120$ for 32gb cf |
| 09:30.09 | RST38h | just plug in a real harddrive into your N800 =) |
| 09:30.15 | KotCzarny | nah |
| 09:30.20 | KotCzarny | i hate spinning drives |
| 09:30.27 | woodwizzle | yeah SSD is the way to go =) |
| 09:31.23 | woodwizzle | if i had that kinda money though I'd just pay some folks to engineer me a n1000 |
| 09:31.41 | KotCzarny | nope, you will e on hawaii |
| 09:31.45 | KotCzarny | *be |
| 09:32.32 | woodwizzle | no I'd much prefer an n1000 |
| 09:32.58 | woodwizzle | with its terrabyte of storage, integrated mobile nvidia 8800, and built in expresso maker |
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| 09:34.37 | RST38h | how about a custo mfitted brain plug? |
| 09:35.00 | RST38h | for watching those movies, you know |
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| 09:37.04 | woodwizzle | RST38h: a brain plug??? why on earth would I do that |
| 09:37.28 | woodwizzle | when I could just get a bluetooth brain |
| 09:38.20 | CVirus | Does maemo have a terminal application ? |
| 09:38.25 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 09:38.32 | CVirus | cool |
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| 09:39.55 | CVirus | xterm |
| 09:39.56 | CVirus | cool |
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| 09:44.54 | RST38h | woodwizzle: does it mean that your eyes will blink blue when activ3e? |
| 09:46.16 | woodwizzle | no because I need to know when I'm active, not people looking at me. |
| 09:46.45 | woodwizzle | but pairing is difficult task. |
| 09:48.26 | CVirus | Does the N810 have a GPS chipset / |
| 09:48.27 | CVirus | ? |
| 09:50.08 | mib_jkkj | yep |
| 09:50.21 | CVirus | I mean can it do GPS alone without the need of any other devices ? |
| 09:51.24 | woodwizzle | CVirus: yup |
| 09:51.32 | CVirus | cool |
| 09:51.48 | woodwizzle | Though from my understanding its kinda 2nd rate GPS |
| 09:52.10 | woodwizzle | an external device will increase the accuracy of it |
| 09:52.32 | CVirus | I see |
| 09:53.43 | woodwizzle | That said, know I don't own an n810 so this is just hearsay =) |
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| 09:58.12 | Veggen | I haven't really done any accuracy comparitions, but I think the problem is more that it takes time to get a fix than that it's less accurate once it has gotten the fix. |
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| 10:01.05 | CVirus | How many minutes / |
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| 10:07.54 | CVirus | cool .. pimlico works on the maemo |
| 10:08.00 | CVirus | is considering an N810 |
| 10:08.35 | Veggen | CVirus: several. haven't timed it, but for me it's long ;) |
| 10:09.43 | CVirus | I've been waiting for over a year now for OM |
| 10:09.47 | florian | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.56 | CVirus | but that last video issue made me re-consider it |
| 10:10.11 | CVirus | i'll buy an N810 and wait for GTA03 |
| 10:15.27 | trickie | CVirus: whats the video issue exactly? |
| 10:15.29 | Jaffa | lo florian |
| 10:16.32 | CVirus | trickie: the FreeRunner won't be able to play videos ... check the mailing list for more accurate info |
| 10:16.50 | trickie | CVirus: ah damn, ok will do |
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| 10:33.08 | Khertan | CVirus > yes pimlico works ... but it s a bit small to be usefull (for me) |
| 10:33.50 | Khertan | (gpe too :) ) |
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| 10:36.01 | CVirus | Khertan: what do you use then ? |
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| 10:36.08 | woodwizzle | Khertan: what do you mean? |
| 10:36.35 | Khertan | mCalendar ... :) but a it s unfinished ... and far to be perfect too |
| 10:37.16 | Khertan | woodwizzle> i mean, i always need to sort out the stylus, then use a bit the keyboard, click, click, click again with the stylus |
| 10:37.31 | Khertan | i don't found the gui very well thinked for a device like the n810 |
| 10:37.40 | Khertan | should be normal as it s a port |
| 10:37.52 | CVirus | Khertan: what do you use ? |
| 10:37.59 | Khertan | i use mCalendar |
| 10:38.35 | woodwizzle | can you sync mCalendar with evolution? |
| 10:38.41 | Khertan | no |
| 10:38.49 | woodwizzle | :( |
| 10:39.03 | Khertan | as the binding for python isn't ready |
| 10:39.17 | Khertan | but i m studying sincing with google calendar |
| 10:39.37 | Khertan | as evolution can be sync with google calendar ... it should not be a prob |
| 10:47.15 | lardman | Does anyone know the format of the Maemo LinuxTag presentations/talks? |
| 10:50.12 | lardman | hi hrw |
| 10:50.16 | hrw | morning |
| 10:54.35 | nomis | fwiw: Statusbarclock updated for Chinook: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/files/n770/statusbarclock_0.7_armel.deb |
| 10:55.33 | X-Fade | nomis: Would you like to add your packages to maemo extas? |
| 10:56.19 | hrw | nomis: where I can see screenshot of it? |
| 10:56.46 | nomis | hrw: it still looks basically the same as here: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/files/n770/statusbar.png |
| 10:57.05 | nomis | X-Fade: how complicated is that? |
| 10:57.43 | X-Fade | nomis: Upload with dput? :) |
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| 10:58.14 | hrw | nomis: ah. that one |
| 10:58.38 | hrw | nomis: still cannot be switched digital/analog without switching maemo clock? |
| 10:58.54 | nomis | hrw: I already have some prototypeish code that matches the new design and uses cairo for drawing. |
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| 10:59.23 | nomis | hrw: no. I am hesitant to add configuration dialog and lots of bloat for that trivial piece of software. |
| 10:59.49 | hrw | ok |
| 10:59.56 | nomis | X-Fade: how is the authentication handled? |
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| 11:01.03 | X-Fade | nomis: You will get an ivitation from garage with explanation. You need to upload your ssh pubkey for upload and pgp key for package signing. |
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| 11:01.35 | nomis | X-Fade: it probably helps that statusbarclock already lives at garage? |
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| 11:03.42 | X-Fade | nomis: Sure. You should receive an invitation in your mail shortly. |
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| 11:15.54 | nomis | feels stupid. |
| 11:16.05 | nomis | how do I get an ascii armored version of my public pgp key? |
| 11:16.14 | nomis | gpg even. |
| 11:16.30 | aquatix | man gpg? |
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| 11:21.18 | nomis | aquatix: this leads me to "gpg -a --export <keyid>" which garage refuses to accept. |
| 11:22.13 | nomis | (and is a huge blob btw. It might include all the signatures) |
| 11:22.15 | aquatix | hm |
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| 11:27.40 | nomis | mhm, now it worked. I must have mis-pasted. |
| 11:28.59 | aquatix | ah :) |
| 11:29.11 | aquatix | maybe a stray space somewhere or something |
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| 11:38.42 | nomis | upload done. |
| 11:39.25 | aquatix | nomis: ooh, analog clock? |
| 11:39.38 | aquatix | in status bar, nice |
| 11:39.40 | aquatix | wants |
| 11:40.34 | aquatix | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/statusbar-clock/ ? |
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| 11:45.22 | nomis | aquatix: yep. |
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| 11:45.58 | nomis | aquatix: it needs slight adjustments to the design for chinook which I have not yet completed (#ifdeffed out in the source). |
| 11:46.21 | nomis | (off for some food) |
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| 12:00.46 | AStorm | ok, I'm lazy... |
| 12:01.12 | RST38h | isn |
| 12:01.19 | RST38h | t everybody? |
| 12:01.30 | AStorm | could someone build me a btrfs-unstable kernel module for maemo |
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| 12:01.50 | AStorm | for that 2.6.21-osso1? |
| 12:03.19 | AStorm | it's currently the best FS for flash |
| 12:04.36 | RST38h | unstable though |
| 12:04.54 | AStorm | more like unfinished |
| 12:05.09 | AStorm | it doesn't break randomly like Reiser4 |
| 12:05.22 | RST38h | Reiser..heheh |
| 12:05.39 | RST38h | especially good in conjunction with "breaks randomly" |
| 12:06.00 | pupnik_ | RST38h: i still haven't gotten 60fps real display on the NES emu :( |
| 12:06.13 | AStorm | RST38h: only v4 |
| 12:06.20 | AStorm | v3 is stable |
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| 12:06.46 | AStorm | v4 adds slow moments, like, hangs |
| 12:07.09 | AStorm | now, after v. long time, it doesn't self-destruct |
| 12:07.13 | RST38h | AStorm: No, I mean this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser#Court_appearances |
| 12:07.32 | AStorm | ah, that |
| 12:07.35 | RST38h | pupnik: Why do you need 60fps? |
| 12:07.41 | inz | AStorm, http://inz.fi/brtfs.ko |
| 12:07.58 | AStorm | inz: current unstable? |
| 12:08.14 | pupnik_ | i don't like the tearing, and some games flash sprites every other frame |
| 12:08.19 | RST38h | ah |
| 12:08.22 | pupnik_ | so when you get hit |
| 12:08.23 | AStorm | inz: 4oh4 |
| 12:08.24 | inz | AStorm, 0.13 |
| 12:08.30 | pupnik_ | if you have frameskip 1, your character disappears |
| 12:08.35 | AStorm | inz: nah, gimme unstable :) |
| 12:08.51 | AStorm | "stable" is crashy :) |
| 12:08.53 | RST38h | pupnik: Will non-integer frameskip help the problem? |
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| 12:09.15 | RST38h | pupnik: as in "draw 60% of frames"? |
| 12:09.16 | pupnik_ | yeah when i disable frameskip the flashing is ok... it flashes enough |
| 12:09.32 | pupnik_ | but it's just depressing to not have 60fps in perfect sync |
| 12:09.44 | RST38h | pupnik: it is nothing unusual |
| 12:09.53 | RST38h | the device has to do a lot of work |
| 12:10.02 | AStorm | pupnik_: perfect? is *anything* perfect? |
| 12:10.22 | inz | AStorm, meh, you're quite demanding |
| 12:10.27 | RST38h | and it is not exactly a speed demon |
| 12:10.29 | AStorm | you'd have to get like, asm-perfect representation |
| 12:10.34 | inz | AStorm, you should say such request _in advance_ |
| 12:10.37 | pupnik_ | it can be perfect i think. i just need to work on it |
| 12:10.44 | AStorm | inz: just the module and maybe tools too |
| 12:10.44 | RST38h | has 6502 emulation in assembler |
| 12:10.54 | pupnik_ | cool |
| 12:10.58 | RST38h | Don't think it is a silver bullet though |
| 12:11.04 | AStorm | RST38h: whee, C64! |
| 12:11.04 | inz | AStorm, same url, new version |
| 12:11.10 | pupnik_ | oh speed is ok. i get 60fps on 770 |
| 12:11.21 | AStorm | inz, great, but it was 4oh4 last time |
| 12:11.37 | AStorm | inz: still... |
| 12:11.42 | RST38h | so it is only the N800/810 video hardware that causes problems? |
| 12:11.44 | AStorm | fix that 404 |
| 12:12.36 | pupnik_ | will try to get work done over the weekend |
| 12:13.25 | AStorm | inz: so? |
| 12:13.49 | aquatix | nomis: hm, do you have a download link? the applet isn't in the download section yet |
| 12:15.26 | AStorm | inz: you got my hopes up, damn you ;) |
| 12:15.30 | inz | AStorm, oh, fix the typo in the url |
| 12:15.52 | AStorm | lol, indeed |
| 12:18.17 | inz | Meh, need to build e2fsprogs too... |
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| 12:21.50 | Jaffa | AStorm/RST38h: Feh, forget C64 - BBC Micro much more fuuuuuuuun :-) |
| 12:22.02 | AStorm | hehe |
| 12:22.09 | AStorm | never seeen it |
| 12:23.05 | AStorm | hmm |
| 12:23.16 | AStorm | I need non-broken module-init-tools |
| 12:24.54 | inz | use insmod? |
| 12:24.59 | fysa | http://www.anders.com/lectures/lars_brownworth/12_byzantine_rulers/ |
| 12:25.21 | fysa | nice podcast. |
| 12:25.41 | AStorm | inz: nah, I've got it now |
| 12:25.45 | AStorm | but... |
| 12:25.52 | RST38h | didn't have either |
| 12:25.57 | AStorm | you didn't gie me crc module |
| 12:26.09 | AStorm | *give |
| 12:26.16 | inz | Hmm, it should be built in the kernel, shouldn't it |
| 12:26.31 | AStorm | it isn't, apparently |
| 12:26.46 | inz | meh |
| 12:26.54 | AStorm | [193178.710937] btrfs: Unknown symbol crc32c_le |
| 12:27.06 | AStorm | ande |
| 12:27.09 | AStorm | [193178.726562] btrfs: Unknown symbol write_cache_pages |
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| 12:27.23 | AStorm | the latter is weird :P |
| 12:28.24 | inz | http://inz.fi/libcrc32c.ko |
| 12:28.26 | inz | Is that the one? |
| 12:28.32 | AStorm | most likely |
| 12:29.47 | AStorm | still, write_cache_pages is unknown |
| 12:29.56 | inz | Hmm |
| 12:31.28 | inz | http://inz.fi/btrfs-progs_0.14+mcr20080425-0inz1_armel.deb |
| 12:31.38 | inz | I'll try to figure out the cache pages... |
| 12:31.39 | AStorm | mhm |
| 12:32.27 | inz | Hmm, the write_cache_pages is a static funcion in btrfs |
| 12:32.30 | inz | I wonder... |
| 12:33.29 | inz | A-ha |
| 12:33.44 | Khertan | huhu ... is there a way to patch hildon.TimePicker to use my own widget ? |
| 12:34.02 | inz | AStorm, try the kernel module again now |
| 12:34.09 | AStorm | ok |
| 12:34.47 | inz | AStorm, they have taken core from 2.6.23, but had version check < 2.6.20 |
| 12:34.52 | inz | -r+d |
| 12:35.08 | AStorm | hehehe |
| 12:35.53 | inz | Does the module load now? |
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| 12:36.20 | AStorm | inz: is that really the unstable tree? |
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| 12:36.29 | AStorm | cmason is telling me it's been fixed |
| 12:36.49 | inz | AStorm, I pulled the tip.gz from the unstable mercurial |
| 12:37.13 | AStorm | ok |
| 12:37.24 | AStorm | he admitted it's wrong :) |
| 12:37.27 | AStorm | :P |
| 12:37.58 | AStorm | inz: where's the mkfs? |
| 12:38.01 | AStorm | :P |
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| 12:38.17 | nomis | aquatix: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/files/n770/statusbarclock_0.7_armel.deb |
| 12:38.36 | inz | AStorm, in the .deb |
| 12:38.49 | inz | AStorm, mkfs.btrfs |
| 12:39.05 | AStorm | hmm, I hmust've missed it |
| 12:39.19 | AStorm | ya, silly me |
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| 12:40.23 | AStorm | inz: be sure to mount it with nodatasum and ssd |
| 12:40.41 | AStorm | w/o first it'll kill the cpu |
| 12:40.58 | AStorm | and second is block allocator tweak |
| 12:41.38 | AStorm | hmmhmm |
| 12:41.56 | AStorm | I'll have to add this module to initfs :) |
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| 12:42.41 | AStorm | I wonder why they had to use separate flash for initfs and not just a partition |
| 12:42.46 | inz | AStorm, I don't have any intention to use it |
| 12:42.57 | AStorm | inz: mhm |
| 12:43.26 | AStorm | I'll tell you how it flies |
| 12:43.27 | AStorm | should be the fastest on flash |
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| 12:43.43 | AStorm | maybe except jffs2 (but that's a big maybe) |
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| 12:45.04 | AStorm | hmm, now I'll need that SDHC overdrive kernel ;) |
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| 12:45.13 | AStorm | but that one I'll build myself |
| 12:45.29 | inz | Aren't there readily built ones? |
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| 12:46.27 | AStorm | fanoush', older ones |
| 12:46.37 | AStorm | but these have no sysfs or proc switch |
| 12:46.44 | inz | ah |
| 12:47.24 | AStorm | I'd need info on building a newer kernel |
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| 12:47.54 | inz | How new do you need? |
| 12:48.21 | AStorm | I wonder... do b*e and dsme work with GPIO using standard interface? |
| 12:48.23 | inz | You'll probably need to rebuild some other stuff too and create new initfs, if you change the kernel version |
| 12:48.36 | AStorm | inz: sure esp. wifi driver |
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| 12:48.50 | AStorm | bt is standard I recon? |
| 12:48.56 | inz | I guess so |
| 12:49.10 | AStorm | I also dunno if gps needs some module |
| 12:50.10 | AStorm | inz: the idea is to get CFS (new cpu sched) |
| 12:50.18 | aquatix | it might be a `serial' device, only needing the daemon |
| 12:50.30 | AStorm | if you could manage to backport it, it'd be a win |
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| 12:50.51 | AStorm | there were some old versions for 2.6.21 too |
| 12:51.15 | AStorm | I'll try a backport myself |
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| 12:51.29 | AStorm | some git cherry picking |
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| 12:56.11 | AStorm | inz: I need -omap sources probably |
| 12:56.37 | AStorm | unless the wifi works with 2.6.23 or newer |
| 12:56.49 | AStorm | (ofc. linux-omap branch) |
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| 13:00.53 | inz | AStorm, yes, linux-omap is a wise choice ;) |
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| 13:01.56 | AStorm | inz: mhm, let's see how well will the cross 4.2.3 work |
| 13:03.24 | AStorm | need gcc 4.2.3 on the tablet too |
| 13:03.35 | AStorm | ofc. with libstdc++-v3 |
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| 13:11.47 | KhaledHosny | hi every one |
| 13:12.20 | KhaledHosny | I just got my n810 tablet, but I'm facing some problems |
| 13:12.36 | nomis | yay for problems! |
| 13:12.56 | KhaledHosny | basically, the device doesn't start the interface, it just loads then stops |
| 13:13.19 | nomis | KhaledHosny: did you install external software? |
| 13:13.40 | Cptnodegard | i designed a new windows specific keyboard: http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q187/Cptnodegard/PICT0710.jpg |
| 13:13.50 | Navi | O_o |
| 13:14.11 | KhaledHosny | nomis: nope, it just worked for less than a minute, then rebooted itself and entered a loop of rebooting |
| 13:14.21 | nomis | eek. |
| 13:14.26 | Navi | Cptnodegard, funny |
| 13:14.46 | Navi | KhaledHosny, flash your N810 with the latest image |
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| 13:15.03 | KhaledHosny | nomis: I reflaseh it with the latest os, but it get worse, it doesn't even reach the "connecting people" screen wany more |
| 13:15.12 | aquatix | Cptnodegard: :) |
| 13:15.29 | Cptnodegard | computer crashed again... so i was inspired to make a dedicated keyboard |
| 13:15.37 | Navi | :P |
| 13:15.57 | Navi | I have my BSoD screensaver bound to C+A+D |
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| 13:16.01 | KhaledHosny | Navi: I already did ^^^ |
| 13:16.06 | Cptnodegard | lol |
| 13:16.39 | Navi | So whenever a friend manages to freeze something, he/she hits ctrl+alt+del and it BSoDs |
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| 13:17.02 | Navi | They still haven't figured it out ^^ |
| 13:17.14 | Cptnodegard | lol thats brilliantly evil :D |
| 13:18.21 | Cptnodegard | my friends are easier to fool... at school with their lappys, when they run out i just prntscrn, put it in paint, flips 180 degrees, view fulslcreen and pull out the usb mouse |
| 13:18.36 | Navi | :P |
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| 13:19.26 | Navi | It's an internal joke I like to keep |
| 13:19.39 | Navi | "I thought you said that Linux doesn't get BSoDs :(" |
| 13:19.51 | Cptnodegard | lol |
| 13:20.15 | Cptnodegard | make it purple next time and tell them "i told you, no blue screen of death" |
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| 13:20.24 | Navi | lol |
| 13:20.29 | nomis | KhaledHosny: that doesn't sound good. |
| 13:20.45 | maemo | ooops sorry, wrong room |
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| 13:20.54 | aquatix | ... |
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| 13:21.31 | Cptnodegard | o0 |
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| 13:21.41 | Cptnodegard | stll the wrong room |
| 13:21.51 | maemo | ok, i did that to see - i really thought someone would have registered maemo |
| 13:22.14 | Cptnodegard | nah most people in here have better imagination than that |
| 13:22.32 | maemo | but if i leave the room, does that mean you lot are left in # channel |
| 13:23.13 | Cptnodegard | yes, if you leave we all just diappear |
| 13:23.34 | maemo | thats much better than flipping mouse buttons and stuff ;) |
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| 13:24.06 | KhaledHosny | nomis: I'm not sure what I should do now, is there a way I can debug this? |
| 13:24.33 | maemo | KhaledHosny: did you buy your device from new? |
| 13:24.54 | nomis | KhaledHosny: I have no idea. If reflashing the device does not help I am out of ideas. |
| 13:25.20 | AStorm | hey, is it possible to have multiple initfses on N? |
| 13:25.21 | johnx | if reflashing does not work it points heavily towards some type of hardware problem |
| 13:25.26 | KhaledHosny | maemo: yup, through the developer program |
| 13:25.34 | johnx | have you charged the battery all the way? |
| 13:25.45 | KhaledHosny | nomis: thanks anyway |
| 13:26.02 | maemo | KhaledHosny: did it work correctly until very recently? |
| 13:26.46 | KhaledHosny | maemo: I just got it, it worked for only less than a minute |
| 13:27.16 | maemo | take the battery out for a while. put it back in, leave it off but charging up for a few hours |
| 13:27.24 | maemo | dont try flashing until after the battery is fully charged |
| 13:27.46 | KhaledHosny | before reflashing, I was able to boot it few times, but it reboots quickely |
| 13:28.09 | maemo | tbh it sounds like a flat battery |
| 13:28.09 | KhaledHosny | I'll try this |
| 13:28.41 | maemo | if you still cannot do anything with it after a proper charge |
| 13:29.14 | maemo | then start to look again and maybe consider getting an RMA |
| 13:29.52 | johnx | seconded |
| 13:30.35 | Navi | yawns |
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| 13:30.53 | RST38h | Anybody remembers a command line utility name to deal with shm blocks? |
| 13:30.58 | RST38h | Listing, deleting, etc, |
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| 13:31.52 | KhaledHosny | lets hope this will solve it, as returning it will be a big problem |
| 13:32.05 | AStorm | inz: could you post the .config somewhere? |
| 13:33.57 | maemo | KhaledHosny: with any new device its wise to fully charge the battery before hand and read the getting started whilst doing it :) i hope it solves your problem |
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| 13:36.12 | KhaledHosny | maemo: I thought I fully charged it, but since I can't read the "getting started" manual (there wasn't an english one, why I ordered it in finland!) I feel lost |
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| 13:37.21 | maemo | ordered himself direct from nokia in the uk |
| 13:38.11 | maemo | when you were charging it, did it display on the screen that it was charging? or did it just stay blank and off? |
| 13:38.37 | Jaffa | 'maemo' is an awfully confusing nick |
| 13:39.20 | AStorm | hmm, is the wifi in N8x0 a Prism54? |
| 13:39.26 | johnx | nope |
| 13:39.27 | KhaledHosny | I see the charging indicator on the screen |
| 13:39.33 | johnx | it's a cx3110x IIRC |
| 13:39.38 | X-Fade | KhaledHosny: Did you flash your device with the latest firmware yet? |
| 13:39.48 | AStorm | johnx: that's a wrapper |
| 13:40.10 | AStorm | the trick is that it loads Prism54 firmware according to the log |
| 13:40.16 | KhaledHosny | X-Fade: I did |
| 13:40.20 | AStorm | some weird scheme |
| 13:40.24 | johnx | well that's interesting O_o |
| 13:40.55 | X-Fade | KhaledHosny: Nobody with a similar battery near you? So you can test? |
| 13:41.02 | jaffas_hildon_de | damn |
| 13:41.16 | hildon_desktop | any better? |
| 13:41.42 | AStorm | blah |
| 13:41.50 | AStorm | why not just jaffas? |
| 13:41.57 | hildon_desktop | cos the nick was clipped |
| 13:42.10 | hildon_desktop | otherwise i would have rotated him 180degress |
| 13:42.17 | AStorm | hmm |
| 13:42.24 | KhaledHosny | X-Fade: I don't think so, but I'll look |
| 13:42.32 | AStorm | what's the touchscreen used by N$ |
| 13:42.36 | AStorm | N? |
| 13:43.29 | johnx | heh |
| 13:43.56 | Navi | :| |
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| 13:46.50 | AStorm | and which Taos sensor is in N810? |
| 13:47.01 | inz | AStorm, erm, I used make nokia_2420_defconfig |
| 13:47.05 | AStorm | 2550 or 2563 |
| 13:47.11 | AStorm | inz: gimme |
| 13:47.54 | johnx | it comes with the nokia kernel source, IIRC |
| 13:48.00 | johnx | doesn't it? |
| 13:48.18 | inz | AStorm, http://inz.fi/nokia_2420_defconfig |
| 13:48.25 | inz | johnx, yes it does |
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| 13:56.45 | n008 | does anyone know if the sdict wikipedia is mirorred anywhere other than the sdviewer site? |
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| 14:04.39 | RST38h | It's ipcs! |
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| 14:11.26 | hendry | if i can't see my package via the Application Manager... can I assume it's because it isn't signed? |
| 14:11.48 | johnx | unsigned packages show up |
| 14:12.02 | aquatix | hendry: i guess you updated the list? |
| 14:12.07 | johnx | only packages with "Section: user/*" show up in app manager |
| 14:12.25 | hendry | johnx: ah the section |
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| 14:12.34 | johnx | * being any arbitrary string |
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| 14:13.33 | hendry | wonders if a Debian package have more than one section |
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| 14:21.02 | hendry | I get a "software contains updates from a different source" error message trying to update my package |
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| 14:21.33 | RST38h | remove it completely and reinstall |
| 14:21.50 | RST38h | you probably installed some of its parts from a different repository a while ago |
| 14:21.53 | johnx | it happens if you installed package "foo" from repo "a" and an update is available from repo "b" |
| 14:22.18 | n008 | what is RMA? |
| 14:22.44 | hendry | RST38h: you're right :) |
| 14:22.49 | lardman | hendry: I've been getting that too |
| 14:22.51 | RST38h | RMA - process of returning a defective item back to the manufacturer |
| 14:23.04 | n008 | ah thanks |
| 14:23.06 | hendry | lardman: removed my previous package |
| 14:23.15 | lardman | For me it appears with the map application |
| 14:23.23 | lardman | I can't really see why it would happen |
| 14:23.47 | aquatix | lardman: remove the map app and reinstall |
| 14:23.50 | aquatix | known issue |
| 14:23.58 | aquatix | the repository changed i think |
| 14:24.10 | lardman | ah, I see |
| 14:24.37 | aquatix | works fine now here :) |
| 14:26.23 | hendry | anyone know about "rep2"? http://kimitakeblog.net/item/591/catid/24 |
| 14:26.38 | Khertan | rah ::!!!!! IDLE on windows is a calamity |
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| 14:30.13 | lardman | The other thing that appears to have happened is that lots of packages are now dependencies of Octave and Gnuplot. I'm not quite sure what I did to screw their control files up to make that happen |
| 14:30.15 | kulve | etrunko: ping? |
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| 14:32.42 | RST38h | Is there a port of Octave for ITT? |
| 14:33.47 | lardman | of course |
| 14:33.54 | lardman | it's just a recompile |
| 14:34.09 | lardman | not much porting needed really :) |
| 14:34.54 | wom- | a bit off the topic but: any idea why i lost hdb, hdc and hdd when I upgraded to ubuntu. Bios sees disks but ubuntu says they dont exist. fdisk -l doesnt list them |
| 14:35.04 | wom- | everything worked just fine before upgrade :) |
| 14:35.30 | johnx | are they now treated as sda(a-d) ? |
| 14:35.53 | wom- | well i have mixture of ide and sda disks |
| 14:35.57 | wom- | ide disks are missing |
| 14:36.02 | wom- | sda works fine |
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| 14:36.27 | wom- | but |
| 14:36.33 | wom- | you are actuallu right |
| 14:36.46 | wom- | if i now look very very carefully, I see sdc :D |
| 14:36.49 | wom- | thanks mate :) |
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| 14:37.50 | lardman | RST38h: http://people.bath.ac.uk/enpsgp/nokia770/OE_feed/ |
| 14:38.07 | lardman | RST38h: not a proper feed though I'm afraid as there's no Packages file |
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| 14:39.48 | lardman | ssvb: how's your workload atm? |
| 14:41.07 | Atarii | have the forums gone down? |
| 14:41.14 | qwerty12 | Atarii, looks like it for me |
| 14:41.16 | qwerty12 | Very slow. |
| 14:41.20 | Atarii | yea, |
| 14:42.23 | Atarii | how do i add custom places to the filemanager? For example, i want to add / |
| 14:42.31 | Atarii | i did it a while back but cant remember how |
| 14:42.40 | Navi | symlink it for total hax |
| 14:43.22 | lardman | Atarii: but be careful of the crawler getting itself stuck |
| 14:43.57 | ssvb | lardman: it's more or less fine now |
| 14:44.07 | Atarii | ah yes, ln -s / /home/user/MyDocs |
| 14:44.16 | Atarii | is that correct, or the wrong filemanager location? |
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| 14:46.36 | Atarii | woot, ln -s / /home/user/MyDocs/root :D |
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| 14:50.52 | lardman | ssvb: great; sorry I didn't send you my part done colourspace/scaling code, I had food poisoning just before I left for my hols and wasn't really to fussed to do anything |
| 14:51.17 | aquatix | Atarii: i think there might be a file describing the `places' it should show too |
| 14:51.58 | lardman | ssvb: I was just going to ask whether you can think of any reasonably simple test harness code I can use to check that the DSP code is working, before plumbing it into mplayer? |
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| 14:53.03 | lardman | ssvb: perhaps a better question is how can I easily generate a variety of different pixel format images to send to it to see if it works? |
| 14:54.19 | AStorm | it seems Tahvo has an USB transceiver |
| 14:54.30 | AStorm | isn't used by Nokia though |
| 14:55.14 | lardman | AStorm: where's that info from? |
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| 14:55.36 | ssvb | lardman: I think mplayer should have an option to produce raw YUV images as output |
| 14:55.57 | lardman | to file you mean? So then I can just send them over |
| 14:57.11 | AStorm | lardman: the linux-omap kernel |
| 14:57.56 | ssvb | lardman: yes, but you can also try rgb images first |
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| 14:59.14 | lardman | ssvb: I know rgb works, well single colour ones anyway, but I'll have to check the position and scaling as that's not tested yet |
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| 15:00.10 | lopz | hola |
| 15:00.49 | lardman | ssvb: I'll have a play around with that then over the weekend and let you know how i get on |
| 15:01.03 | ssvb | lardman: ok |
| 15:02.13 | lardman | my scaling code will be rubbish, if I even bother in the first instance. derf - problem with using MATLAB to do it for you ;) |
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| 15:08.54 | AStorm | ok, I'll need gcc-4 on the tablet :P |
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| 15:10.16 | keesj | AStorm: install mamona :p |
| 15:10.50 | birunko | =P |
| 15:10.58 | AStorm | keesj: yeah sure |
| 15:11.03 | AStorm | hmmmm |
| 15:11.05 | derf | lardman: :) |
| 15:11.06 | johnx | build-essential? |
| 15:11.18 | AStorm | bt isn't buildign in latestg linux-omap :P |
| 15:12.28 | AStorm | some missing or renamed constant |
| 15:12.43 | Khertan | bye |
| 15:18.09 | AStorm | ok, I know now :P |
| 15:18.27 | AStorm | an API change no one bothered to fix :P |
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| 15:29.26 | Khertan_on_n810 | Hi again |
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| 15:30.14 | Khertan_on_n810 | I m tired of design nice gui under glade and see it transform by this stupid hildon theme |
| 15:31.12 | Khertan_on_n810 | how can i make a gtktreeview with different color on line |
| 15:31.42 | Khertan_on_n810 | one bluelight, one blank, then |
| 15:31.43 | Khertan_on_n810 | one bluelight, one blank, then |
| 15:31.48 | Khertan_on_n810 | and ... |
| 15:31.55 | Khertan_on_n810 | ? |
| 15:32.13 | Khertan_on_n810 | in french it s 'pyjama list' |
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| 15:37.08 | AStorm | Khertan_on_n810: you don't |
| 15:37.19 | AStorm | this should be governed by theme |
| 15:37.27 | Khertan_on_n810 | it s stupid |
| 15:37.33 | AStorm | you can hack it, but please don't |
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| 15:38.14 | Atarii | is there a way to get rid of that stupid notice which says "this software is not by Nokia, are you sure you want to install it"? |
| 15:38.14 | Khertan_on_n810 | if i place a separator for example there is a reason |
| 15:38.35 | Jaffa | Atarii: someone rebuilt Application Manager without it |
| 15:38.36 | Khertan_on_n810 | but it s not displayed ... |
| 15:38.56 | Khertan_on_n810 | it s like the margin in an hildon windows |
| 15:39.20 | Khertan_on_n810 | it s a so large screen that we can waste space ! |
| 15:39.44 | Atarii | leetmode thanks Jaffa |
| 15:44.06 | AStorm | ok, the kernel is built :) |
| 15:44.34 | AStorm | now, need btrfs and wifi :) |
| 15:44.39 | Khertan_on_n810 | AStorm > do u now where i can find information about hack this theme prefs |
| 15:44.57 | Khertan_on_n810 | i ve already found for image in stovk-button |
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| 15:45.59 | lardman | 3 cheers for X-Fade and the autobuilder |
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| 15:49.51 | AStorm | with FBCON enabled, I should be able to see messages :) |
| 15:50.15 | qwerty12 | AStorm, I had FBCON enabled and I would get black screen and then reverted back to nokia logo. |
| 15:50.21 | qwerty12 | You need fanoush's tools. |
| 15:50.36 | qwerty12 | Those work, I now get FB output from my OS2008 on boot and shutdown. |
| 15:51.16 | AStorm | I have these |
| 15:51.21 | AStorm | :P |
| 15:51.31 | qwerty12 | You don't need it enabled in Kernel then :p |
| 15:51.51 | AStorm | but then, you can also disable manual update |
| 15:51.55 | AStorm | of the screen |
| 15:52.08 | AStorm | then it should "just work" |
| 15:52.22 | keesj | Jaffa: nice essay on maemopeople :p |
| 15:52.49 | lardman | ~lart mplayer man page for being too long |
| 15:52.49 | infobot | decapitates mplayer man page conan the destroyer style for being too long |
| 15:52.49 | qwerty12 | True. I think my kernel is set to manual. Auto in kernel never worked for me so why keep it enabled. I keep kernel at auto and fanoush's fb_update_mode sets it into manual. |
| 15:53.29 | ||cw | lardman: try the smb.conf man page sometime |
| 15:53.40 | qwerty12 | It is long. |
| 15:53.43 | qwerty12 | blinks. |
| 15:54.28 | AStorm | ~lart closed wifi drivers |
| 15:54.28 | infobot | --purges closed wifi drivers |
| 15:54.34 | AStorm | no! |
| 15:54.36 | lardman | well too long for a Friday afternoon at least :) |
| 15:55.37 | AStorm | ~lart closed wifi drivers |
| 15:55.37 | infobot | slaps a compatible dib on closed wifi drivers's head |
| 15:56.00 | AStorm | infobot: you don't know plural, do ya? |
| 15:57.37 | AStorm | ok, how can I backup currently installed kernel? |
| 15:57.59 | qwerty12 | AStorm, is it stock kernel or own custom compiled kernel already installed? |
| 15:58.08 | AStorm | stock |
| 15:58.27 | AStorm | but I want to know anyway |
| 15:58.45 | AStorm | the new one is 2.6.25-omap1 |
| 15:58.53 | qwerty12 | No idea. I'd just say to extract it from nokia bin image with flasher-3.0 but you want to know anyway. |
| 15:59.45 | qwerty12 | Maybe cat /dev/mtd2 to a file. I don't think it would be flashable by anything though :/ |
| 16:00.30 | AStorm | hmmh |
| 16:00.31 | qwerty12 | See if you can reverse fanoush's kernel flasher script. |
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| 16:01.22 | qwerty12 | Sigh, maemo application catalog seems to be down. |
| 16:02.02 | X-Fade | qwerty12: What's up? |
| 16:02.14 | X-Fade | It works for me? |
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| 16:02.33 | qwerty12 | X-Fade, it works now :). I had midgard error a min ago. |
| 16:02.58 | X-Fade | qwerty12: Hehe, I know ;) I was reloading something.. |
| 16:03.22 | qwerty12 | ahh :) |
| 16:03.25 | X-Fade | Can have been there for more than 20 secs ;) |
| 16:03.32 | X-Fade | And still you got it. |
| 16:04.00 | qwerty12 | The chances of that :/ |
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| 16:05.48 | Atarii | qwerty12 to install your applciation manager (without the annoying Nokia message) do i use dpkg --install ? |
| 16:06.04 | qwerty12 | Atarii, that's what I did |
| 16:06.16 | Atarii | k thanks |
| 16:06.22 | Atarii | now tryin it |
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| 16:09.43 | skibur | Net Neutrality at steak? |
| 16:10.14 | ||cw | ah, steaks as bribes... |
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| 16:10.43 | skibur | lol |
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| 16:13.20 | skibur | I'm creating an Open Source Internet. Wanna Join? |
| 16:14.04 | skibur | Just wire up your state/country and we will connect them together |
| 16:14.05 | skibur | lol |
| 16:16.08 | ||cw | skibur: I have some bailing wire I can connect MO to IL with |
| 16:16.18 | skibur | lol |
| 16:16.29 | ||cw | the river might be a problem though |
| 16:16.32 | skibur | yeah |
| 16:16.41 | skibur | I got a Linusys Router? |
| 16:16.45 | skibur | :D |
| 16:17.11 | qwerty12 | Yay, 930 of 1722 packages downloaded! AT 74.8 KB/S :O |
| 16:18.40 | Atarii | time to reflash :( |
| 16:18.49 | qwerty12 | Atarii, how come? |
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| 16:19.13 | Atarii | a. i think i messed up trying to customise the boot images |
| 16:19.20 | ||cw | no, but I got an old B access point |
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| 16:19.45 | Atarii | b. the application manager installed fine but gets stuck trying to install stuff. Im guessin its not meant for 2008h |
| 16:19.49 | Atarii | 2008he* |
| 16:20.49 | AStorm | hmm |
| 16:21.02 | AStorm | is n810 SD reader high speed already? |
| 16:21.04 | qwerty12 | Atarii, Hmm, have you tried clicking the link for the original app manager |
| 16:21.26 | Atarii | too late, needed a clean flash anyways |
| 16:21.48 | Atarii | plus im used to flashing devices, i flashed my Samsung phone 6 times last night :S |
| 16:22.05 | qwerty12 | Atarii, you won't believe the amount of times I've flashed my W810 :p |
| 16:22.12 | qwerty12 | Battery cover is loose now |
| 16:22.20 | AStorm | poor devices |
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| 16:23.04 | Atarii | lol, same here, the slider is so loose now |
| 16:23.31 | qwerty12 | Hehe, I applied some dodgy patches to mine as well. Reboots from time to time lol |
| 16:24.17 | Atarii | phew panic over, thought id WSOD then |
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| 16:25.40 | Atarii | yea same, the Samsung modding scene is Russian based, so google translate is the only way i can see what the patches i apply to my phone actually do :S |
| 16:26.13 | johnx | heh...I remember flashing a region free firmware to my brand new DVD-ROM drive back in the day |
| 16:26.17 | qwerty12 | Atarii, Same here :). Although the Russians take time to translate descriptions into English and if not, I have a Russian friend on MSN :p |
| 16:26.31 | johnx | it was from a Russian site, didn't even know for sure if it was for the right device O_o |
| 16:26.36 | qwerty12 | johnx, I remember doing that to my drive lol |
| 16:26.46 | qwerty12 | Now with my new HP, a simple tool sets it |
| 16:26.53 | qwerty12 | No firmware flashing necessary. |
| 16:27.06 | johnx | now Linux doesn't even pay attention to the region setting I think |
| 16:27.38 | qwerty12 | I prefer Windows DVD players but tbh, I don't watch DVD's much. *cough cough* |
| 16:28.01 | Atarii | lol |
| 16:28.25 | dneary | Hi |
| 16:28.36 | dneary | Anyone solved the snail's shell NP level? |
| 16:28.52 | johnx | vlc works just fine in Linux with menus and everything. but yeah, not many physical DVDs here these days... |
| 16:29.13 | johnx | sleeps |
| 16:29.16 | Navi | Nagojgtuas' |
| 16:29.23 | qwerty12 | dsdsfdsfds' |
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| 16:41.39 | Khertan_on_n810 | it s seems there is a bug in libglade ... with pack_start and pack_end |
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| 16:41.54 | Khertan_on_n810 | result aren't the the as in glade |
| 16:42.01 | Khertan_on_n810 | example : |
| 16:42.20 | Khertan_on_n810 | button1 - button2 - button3 |
| 16:42.40 | Khertan_on_n810 | with position 4 - 3 - 2 |
| 16:42.59 | Khertan_on_n810 | and pack_end should be display : |
| 16:43.01 | Khertan_on_n810 | button1 - button2 - button3 |
| 16:43.09 | Khertan_on_n810 | but are displayed : |
| 16:43.18 | Khertan_on_n810 | button2 - button1 - button3 |
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| 16:43.39 | Khertan_on_n810 | and it s well displayed in glade on my nit |
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| 16:47.25 | AStorm | damn |
| 16:47.40 | AStorm | can't build cx3110x for 2.6.25 |
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| 16:47.54 | AStorm | needs porting :P |
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| 16:48.52 | Cptnodegard | anyone have any good ebook source (non drm) except #bookz? |
| 16:49.19 | freelikegnu | project gutenberg perhaps? |
| 16:49.23 | freelikegnu | ;-) |
| 16:49.52 | johnx | tor.com is giving away some free ebooks as a promotion |
| 16:50.12 | Cptnodegard | without drm, johnx? |
| 16:50.17 | Cptnodegard | meaning it compatible |
| 16:50.20 | johnx | without DRM yes |
| 16:50.33 | GeneralAntilles | baen.com also has a shitton of free stuff |
| 16:50.36 | johnx | PDF, HTML and Mobi formats |
| 16:50.36 | GeneralAntilles | and their paid stuff is non-drm |
| 16:51.06 | GeneralAntilles | Cptnodegard, http://e2ma.net/go/948937814/838558/30376561/goto:http://hbpub.vo.llnwd.net/o16/video/olmk/tor.com/ScalziOMWHTML/Scalzi,%20John%20-%20Old%20Mans%20War.html |
| 16:51.50 | derf | The web is _filled_ with free e-books. Use Google. |
| 16:51.51 | AStorm | hmmhmm |
| 16:52.06 | Cptnodegard | im looking for a specific one :/ |
| 16:52.06 | AStorm | it seems that the chip is standard Prism54 |
| 16:52.09 | qwerty12 | Cptnodegard, ipmart-forum *cough cough* |
| 16:52.17 | AStorm | according to the driver |
| 16:52.42 | AStorm | we just don't have the firmware, but it should be exctractable from umac.ko |
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| 16:53.11 | AStorm | maybe FreeMAC would work |
| 16:53.32 | AStorm | the wifi chip is an ARM itself |
| 16:53.59 | freelikegnu | hehe from the free Tor books offer: "*NO PURCHASE NECESSARY. Void where prohibited." Where are DRM-free book giveaways prohibited? |
| 16:54.44 | AStorm | if I'm lucky, I'll be able to grab the firmware off umac.ko and just run with prism54 driver |
| 16:55.45 | johnx | sounds very cool. I'll head to bed now, but make sure you poke at me on here or itt if you make any progress (or even if you don't) |
| 16:55.47 | johnx | good luck |
| 16:56.42 | AStorm | hmm |
| 16:56.55 | Navi | good night, foo |
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| 16:57.09 | AStorm | there's no PCI in here, so the comm must take part over I2C |
| 16:58.55 | AStorm | or some gpios |
| 16:59.25 | AStorm | I wonder why the ddumb Conexant won't just open the UMAC :P |
| 16:59.36 | AStorm | and provide closed firmware |
| 17:00.57 | freelikegnu | it would allow ter'rists and rogue nations access to vital sekrit j00ky that could threatne the nations freedom loving citizens |
| 17:01.30 | freelikegnu | cant have freedom without the lack of freedom |
| 17:01.53 | AStorm | hehe, no |
| 17:02.03 | AStorm | umac has been rev-enged since |
| 17:02.26 | AStorm | both PCI and USB part |
| 17:02.47 | AStorm | hopefully I only need to extract the firmware |
| 17:03.18 | AStorm | but, IMO, this one sits on I2C bus or some GPIO |
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| 17:06.20 | freelikegnu | hmm if I boot off internal SD card, would it be bad to remove the back cover while the n800 is on? |
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| 17:06.45 | freelikegnu | or will something keep the card from getting unmounted? |
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| 17:07.24 | MangoFusion | it will always be busy |
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| 17:09.27 | AStorm | freelikegnu: you won't be able to mount it over the net afaicr |
| 17:10.52 | freelikegnu | hmm, fuse sshfs should work, no? |
| 17:11.05 | AStorm | is there some tool with which I could prod I2C bus? |
| 17:11.23 | kulve | prod? |
| 17:11.30 | AStorm | freelikegnu: sure, because it doesn't try to mount the actual fs |
| 17:11.39 | AStorm | kulve: enumerate devices |
| 17:11.49 | AStorm | and read their boilerpltes |
| 17:14.30 | AStorm | nah, I2C is too slow for full speed wifi |
| 17:14.49 | AStorm | can Nxxx do full speed wifi? 11Mbit? |
| 17:15.12 | kulve | it can do something like 700/800kt/s, so quite close to 11Mbps |
| 17:15.35 | AStorm | mhm |
| 17:15.36 | kulve | with scp, so I don't know if the cpu is the bottleneck then.. |
| 17:15.38 | GeneralAntilles | It's g |
| 17:15.48 | AStorm | so I2C it can't be |
| 17:16.46 | elb | 800kBps is much faster than 11mbps wifi can go |
| 17:17.17 | elb | 100Mbps Ethernet only gets about 800kBps tcp transfers, and 11Mbps wifi is only 5.5Mbps in each direction |
| 17:17.20 | elb | so ... |
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| 17:17.31 | elb | you're getting 802.11g speeds there :-) |
| 17:17.46 | AStorm | and the wifi isn't connected to usb either |
| 17:18.21 | kulve | elb: 100M network can transfer >10000 kilobytes/s |
| 17:18.27 | ||cw | elb: uh, 100Mbps can easily get 9MB/s |
| 17:19.01 | elb | oops, I typo'd |
| 17:19.04 | elb | I meant 10Mbps Ethernet |
| 17:19.20 | elb | (which is a much more appropriate comparison to 11Mbps wifi) |
| 17:19.34 | elb | though, in reality, 11Mbps wifi compares quite poorly to 10Mbps Ethernet |
| 17:19.45 | AStorm | argh, it's over some SPI |
| 17:19.57 | ||cw | yeah, B wifi is more like 400KB/s |
| 17:20.30 | elb | not only is it barely over half the rate, there are a lot of timing issues with wireless that are poor for TCP throughput |
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| 17:23.06 | AStorm | hmm, ok, now I need a softmac driver that builds under 2.6.25 |
| 17:23.16 | AStorm | and port cx3110x to it |
| 17:25.59 | freelikegnu | thats exciting |
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| 17:27.14 | freelikegnu | it will be great to have a true debian with recent kernel in the n8** |
| 17:28.02 | RST38h | \ |
| 17:28.37 | freelikegnu | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.05 | eathprod | seems like i cant get in touch with my mmc from my Fedora8 with usb cable, i just tried with my nokia n73 and that worked, could it be som fedora update or are there reported similar bugs? |
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| 17:29.27 | GeneralAntilles | Just use sftp? :P |
| 17:30.12 | AStorm | ok, porting won't be as hard as I thought |
| 17:30.26 | AStorm | the kernel prism54 driver is very similar |
| 17:31.06 | Navi | woo |
| 17:35.17 | AStorm | now we know why wifi is so bad at N |
| 17:35.36 | AStorm | they use SA_INTERRUPT all over the place on irqs |
| 17:35.39 | AStorm | :P |
| 17:36.12 | AStorm | in effect this is a STI |
| 17:36.28 | AStorm | a critical section |
| 17:37.19 | keesj | AStorm: wokring on free wifi driver? |
| 17:37.35 | AStorm | on cx3110x to build |
| 17:37.44 | elb | GeneralAntilles: that sort of response is a pretty annoying non-answer :-P |
| 17:37.46 | AStorm | for starters, with new kernel |
| 17:38.06 | elb | eathprod: when you plug the tablet in, does the fedora box log the detection of a usb mass storage device? |
| 17:38.12 | GeneralAntilles | I don't have a good one, so I figured I'd recommend a good alternative. |
| 17:38.14 | GeneralAntilles | So, meh. |
| 17:38.16 | elb | eathprod: (you can run 'dmesg' to check) |
| 17:38.36 | AStorm | haha, SA_INTGERRUPT is now IRQF_DISABLED |
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| 17:38.55 | AStorm | so, I can just turn that into 0 |
| 17:39.14 | AStorm | thanks to lxr :D |
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| 17:39.45 | AStorm | or, no |
| 17:39.53 | AStorm | nah, I have to set the flag |
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| 17:39.59 | AStorm | or things might break |
| 17:40.14 | AStorm | still, it is a critical section, bqad for latenc |
| 17:40.15 | eathprod | got a line with: usb 1-2: device descriptor read/64, error -110 |
| 17:40.56 | elb | eathprod: dose that happen every time you plug it in? |
| 17:41.00 | elb | can you try a different USB port? |
| 17:42.03 | eathprod | i have tried another usb port, happens the same, worked 2 days ago |
| 17:43.03 | eathprod | the whole on pastebin http://www.pastebin.ca/997516 |
| 17:44.54 | AStorm | I'll just axe that flag and see what goes |
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| 17:45.12 | AStorm | no STI, but it shouldn't break anything |
| 17:45.27 | AStorm | the flag was molst likely misused anyway |
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| 17:46.36 | AStorm | yay, it built |
| 17:46.48 | AStorm | I wonder if it'll load that umac |
| 17:47.27 | AStorm | diff. kernel and gcc version, hmm |
| 17:49.30 | AStorm | it needs more porting due to skb changes :) |
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| 17:54.34 | AStorm | actually, the conexant guzs are breaking the GPL |
| 17:54.43 | AStorm | the umac is not firmware |
| 17:55.25 | AStorm | yet cx3110x is set as GPL |
| 17:55.38 | AStorm | but it calls non-GPL umac |
| 17:55.55 | AStorm | even, links against it |
| 17:57.14 | AStorm | theoretically, people could sue the hell out of them, make them provide a real driver |
| 17:57.25 | Atarii | /ignore AStorm |
| 17:57.40 | AStorm | any other traffic in here? |
| 17:57.41 | AStorm | :P |
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| 17:58.38 | GeneralAntilles | He's got a thing again monologuing I guess. :P |
| 17:59.01 | AStorm | blah |
| 18:00.12 | X-Fade | Heh ;) |
| 18:01.23 | X-Fade | Did everbody see the newest maemo community guy for the documentation department? |
| 18:01.40 | X-Fade | dneary: Give a shout out here ;) |
| 18:02.03 | X-Fade | http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2008/04/25/hello-planet-maemo/ |
| 18:03.35 | AStorm | someone should make conexant lawyers realize the truth: no one would want to steal their crummy device design |
| 18:03.49 | AStorm | and it's been reverse engineered already |
| 18:03.58 | GeneralAntilles | Howdy, dneary! http://andrew.olmsted.ca/screens/nautilus.png and use the escape key on the front face on the N810. ;) |
| 18:04.33 | Atarii | ok so sounds plays fine for me in 2008he :S |
| 18:04.39 | X-Fade | AStorm: You know that is not the only reason. They don't want you to play with the regulated hardware settings. Like power and perhaps also frequency. |
| 18:04.50 | AStorm | blah blah |
| 18:05.13 | AStorm | and they're too cheap to enforce these in the hw part of the firmware? |
| 18:05.17 | AStorm | please... |
| 18:05.39 | AStorm | LMAC should be enforcing these |
| 18:05.51 | X-Fade | AStorm: Just like those crappy winmodems ;) |
| 18:06.37 | AStorm | they're afraid someone will steal their ARM chip? lol |
| 18:06.52 | AStorm | there's nothing worth stealing |
| 18:07.23 | AStorm | Intel has better devices already |
| 18:08.59 | AStorm | ahha |
| 18:09.13 | AStorm | I see OE guys have an objcopy hack |
| 18:09.22 | AStorm | to make umac.ko work |
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| 18:10.44 | AStorm | they copy the functions off the binary umac into a stub |
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| 18:19.11 | RST38h | Power/Frequency settings are actually dangerous to tweak |
| 18:19.47 | RST38h | You *can* damage your CPU with them |
| 18:20.19 | Navi | Get your Apple i now: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1811646 |
| 18:20.20 | RST38h | So, normally, a manufacturer will have a function call like SetPowerProfile(enum PowerProfile) |
| 18:20.39 | RST38h | And expose this call and a bunch of different profiles to the developers |
| 18:21.35 | dneary | GeneralAntilles: Thanks! |
| 18:22.13 | dneary | I was getting very close on the level, wasn't quite using the wedge you did |
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| 18:23.19 | GeneralAntilles | Thank fiferboy from ITT for that solution. I actually used another mini catapult. I think I got a bit lucky. :D |
| 18:24.55 | X-Fade | Heh, yeah I am kind of stuck in that level too. You have to find methods to lift/throw stuff. |
| 18:25.00 | X-Fade | Which is very cool ;) |
| 18:25.51 | GeneralAntilles | Building catapults and trebuchets is damn fun work. |
| 18:27.33 | RST38h | How do you beat the level with two pendulums shielding the ball from both sides? |
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| 18:28.12 | Navi | I used a lever to open it |
| 18:28.58 | X-Fade | I used a bunch of small balls to push it out. |
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| 18:29.53 | X-Fade | And a lever to open up. |
| 18:29.54 | GeneralAntilles | I attached a long line with a heavy ball on the end to the end of the right door |
| 18:30.04 | GeneralAntilles | draw the ball up high and it'll pull open the door as it falls. |
| 18:30.27 | Atarii | what game is that? |
| 18:30.53 | GeneralAntilles | Numptyphysics |
| 18:31.02 | Atarii | aha |
| 18:31.06 | Atarii | installs... |
| 18:32.17 | RST38h | aha |
| 18:32.17 | X-Fade | Atarii: There goes your spare time ;) |
| 18:32.28 | Atarii | dammit, no revision for me :p |
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| 18:34.25 | AStorm | dammit |
| 18:34.36 | AStorm | my crosscompiler is wrong eabi :P |
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| 19:27.01 | Atarii | numpty physics doesnt work with 2008he phew! |
| 19:28.10 | GeneralAntilles | See ITT |
| 19:28.12 | GeneralAntilles | They have a thread |
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| 19:28.18 | GeneralAntilles | I'm pretty sure somebody compiled it. |
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| 19:28.33 | AStorm | is building arm-none-eabi toolchain |
| 19:28.38 | Atarii | dont tell me that! |
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| 19:36.15 | Atarii | anyone know why it doesnt recognise when i plug the usb cable into the device? its connect to the computer |
| 19:36.24 | Atarii | it sometimes recognises it, and doesnt other times |
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| 19:50.54 | tsukasa | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=hardy_power&num=2 |
| 19:51.04 | tsukasa | w00t |
| 19:52.11 | KotCzarny | running vista on 8core server? |
| 19:52.18 | AStorm | funny |
| 19:52.46 | AStorm | I'm unable to build a kernel with vfp support and -mcpu=arm1136jf-s |
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| 19:53.05 | KotCzarny | build without |
| 19:53.09 | AStorm | bitches about unsupported asm instruction |
| 19:53.18 | AStorm | KotCzarny: no, it should work! |
| 19:53.30 | AStorm | vfp code is faster than not too |
| 19:54.00 | KotCzarny | that's up to benchmarks, not intuition |
| 19:54.01 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:54.11 | AStorm | ... someone did test it |
| 19:54.14 | AStorm | google! |
| 19:54.27 | AStorm | but I need kernel support |
| 19:54.29 | KotCzarny | for you it should compile/run first |
| 19:54.34 | qwerty12_N800 | AStorm: Know any asm? :p. I wanted to learn tto creat some code that would go in firmware of my w810 but I couldn't be arsed :p |
| 19:54.35 | KotCzarny | then you can start optimizing |
| 19:55.14 | AStorm | qwerty12_N800: some asm is not enough |
| 19:55.23 | AStorm | I'd need docs and copious time |
| 19:56.05 | qwerty12_N800 | :(. Hope you succeed with this, be a great achievement imho. |
| 19:56.14 | AStorm | ok, gcc 4.2.3 -mcpu is buggy |
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| 19:56.17 | KotCzarny | or monetary motivation |
| 19:56.17 | AStorm | :P |
| 19:56.18 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 19:56.28 | AStorm | now, -march + -mcpu is ok |
| 19:56.48 | KotCzarny | if you use march you don't have to use mcpu |
| 19:56.49 | AStorm | for some reason it tells me that arm1136jf-s is not armv6 |
| 19:56.55 | AStorm | :P |
| 19:57.44 | AStorm | what a load :P |
| 19:57.59 | qwerty12_N800 | Does anyone know if language changer on hildon small virtual keyboard is part of layout file or part of hildon-im-plugin? |
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| 20:01.35 | qwerty12_N800 | Anyone? :(. I want my caps lock back and the "En" bringing up the settings really pees me off because of the delay and I only have 1 language set. |
| 20:01.48 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 20:01.49 | lcuk | KotCzarny, feelin any better yet - im slowly dying here |
| 20:02.00 | lcuk | tho i made it throu the nite :) |
| 20:02.08 | KotCzarny | lcuk, yeah, i was mostly sleeping for the last night/day |
| 20:02.31 | lcuk | same here - slept longer today than i have done in months |
| 20:03.03 | KotCzarny | and woke up wet |
| 20:03.26 | Atarii | man this numpty physics game is awesome |
| 20:03.33 | qwerty12_N800 | Hope you both get better. I had the flu last month and I really felt like sawing my nose off >.> |
| 20:03.44 | KotCzarny | at least my eyes don't hurt as yesterday |
| 20:03.57 | KotCzarny | qwerty: it's not flu, i think |
| 20:04.05 | KotCzarny | my nose isn't afected |
| 20:04.08 | KotCzarny | *affected |
| 20:04.10 | lcuk | mine is getting to my throat more than anywhere - i can breath slow enough for normal use, but when i cough its like im cheqing on a chainsaw |
| 20:04.24 | GeneralAntilles | #disease |
| 20:04.30 | lcuk | eyes did hurt actually whenever i looked around |
| 20:04.33 | qwerty12_N800 | :(. I thought you had flu from the quick snippets I read. |
| 20:04.43 | lcuk | ahhh GeneralAntilles its ok we arent contaigious in public chat |
| 20:04.47 | KotCzarny | ok, i haven't been to the doctor |
| 20:04.49 | lcuk | BUT WATCH OUT FOR THE EMAILS |
| 20:04.51 | KotCzarny | so it can be anything |
| 20:05.00 | KotCzarny | and for the ftp too |
| 20:05.01 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:05.03 | flo_lap | Maybe i should leave to avoid getting this too ;) |
| 20:05.22 | lcuk | lol flo - hopefully i will be cured by next month ;0 |
| 20:05.30 | lcuk | +shiftkey |
| 20:05.40 | qwerty12_N800 | flo_lap: Long wait... :p |
| 20:06.54 | lcuk | offtopic q: on my windows machine i have wired internet and a wireless card. i run the wireless in adhoc mode. what can i use to list the mac addresses of things on the wireless side (google is shit) |
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| 20:07.46 | KotCzarny | nmap ? |
| 20:07.53 | KotCzarny | then arp print |
| 20:07.57 | KotCzarny | or something |
| 20:08.06 | lcuk | but i thought nmap was a hackers' tool |
| 20:08.19 | lcuk | doesnt wanna get arrested |
| 20:08.23 | qwerty12_N800 | I ran it in school once... |
| 20:08.33 | qwerty12_N800 | It fine on a network u run |
| 20:08.37 | KotCzarny | then just run with -p 80 arg |
| 20:08.41 | Atarii | lcuk are you from germany? |
| 20:08.44 | qwerty12_N800 | s/It/it's/ |
| 20:09.05 | lcuk | no atarii im in england :P |
| 20:09.19 | Atarii | well then nmap is fine |
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| 20:09.42 | Atarii | you can also use netstumbler |
| 20:10.03 | qwerty12_N800 | It's a "security penetration" tool. Supposidly (spelling) for admins to test their own networks... |
| 20:10.19 | KotCzarny | 'supposedly' |
| 20:10.28 | qwerty12_N800 | Thanks |
| 20:10.33 | lcuk | i am inside. i just want to list whats looking through my window |
| 20:10.40 | lcuk | thx though its downloading |
| 20:10.51 | qwerty12_N800 | Don't go near the bushes... |
| 20:10.58 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 20:11.07 | KotCzarny | lions be ther ? |
| 20:11.24 | jaska | no... georges be there |
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| 20:48.01 | Ziriuz | Hi all! |
| 20:48.14 | KotCzarny | - all: No such nick/channel |
| 20:48.43 | lardman | AStorm: did anyone reply to suggest why you can't build a kernel using arm1136jf-s ? |
| 20:50.04 | Ziriuz | I have a question: I have installed right now the new hacker edition for my Nokia 770. It's possible to use xterm? I ca install the one for OS2007 or OS2006 or i must search for OS 2008? OS2008 is compatible with apps developed for previous OS? |
| 20:50.07 | lardman | AStorm: qemu doesn't support the -mcup=arm1136jf-s instruction set due to some odd ARM patent thing iirc |
| 20:50.21 | KotCzarny | argh. patents :/ |
| 20:50.30 | lardman | AStorm: so if any intermediate binaries are compiled and need to be run, the build will fail |
| 20:50.35 | GeneralAntilles | Ziriuz, OS2008 is bundled with xterm. |
| 20:51.18 | GeneralAntilles | OS2007 you'll need to grab a bora xterm package |
| 20:51.56 | RST38h | "NASA officials have voiced their approval of how Russia handled the crisis. They expect to rely heavily on Soyuz spacecraft once the shuttles are retired in 2010." |
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| 20:52.15 | RST38h | imagines some US senators shitting bricks and giggles |
| 20:52.37 | lardman | AStorm: I should also add that afaik the kernel doesn't use floating point, so compiling with vfp support is pointless |
| 20:52.59 | KotCzarny | i have always wondered |
| 20:53.03 | Ziriuz | Uhm, I installed the latest Hacker Version, it's signed as 2008 |
| 20:53.20 | KotCzarny | to actually use some cpu specific intructions does kernel needs to know about them? |
| 20:53.20 | GeneralAntilles | Then you already have xterm, Ziriuz. |
| 20:53.25 | KotCzarny | or only gcc? |
| 20:53.31 | AStorm | lardman: wrong |
| 20:53.40 | AStorm | it has the setup code for vfp |
| 20:53.53 | AStorm | that was throwing the error |
| 20:54.02 | Ziriuz | GeneralAntilles: I'm searching for it :S |
| 20:54.10 | lardman | AStorm: fair enough |
| 20:54.17 | GeneralAntilles | It's right in the menu |
| 20:54.20 | GeneralAntilles | under Utilities |
| 20:54.50 | Ziriuz | Uhm... I don't have it :S |
| 20:54.55 | AStorm | ok, so I need arm-none-linux-gnueabi toolchain |
| 20:55.13 | GeneralAntilles | You sure it's OS2008 |
| 20:55.17 | GeneralAntilles | If it's OS2007, then it's not bundled |
| 20:55.20 | AStorm | not arm-pc-linux-gnu |
| 20:55.31 | GeneralAntilles | and you need to grab a copy for bora |
| 20:55.42 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 20:55.46 | KotCzarny | tablet is a pc |
| 20:55.48 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:56.01 | KotCzarny | not x86 but |
| 20:56.02 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:56.18 | Ziriuz | GeneralAntilles: My Information: "Internet Tablet OS2007 hacker edition for the 770, Version: 4.2008.7-1 |
| 20:56.44 | GeneralAntilles | Ah, right, we've confused the build year and the OS version. ;) |
| 20:56.54 | Ziriuz | If i connect to maemo.org it autoselect OS2008 :) |
| 20:56.56 | Ziriuz | ? |
| 20:57.04 | GeneralAntilles | http://maemo-hackers.org/wiki/OssoXterm |
| 20:58.30 | AStorm | KotCzarny: the gnueabi part is the most important |
| 20:58.41 | KotCzarny | uhum |
| 20:59.41 | Ziriuz | GeneralAntilles: does it means that it'is Chinook or that it's Bora? |
| 20:59.53 | GeneralAntilles | OS2008 is Chinook |
| 20:59.58 | GeneralAntilles | OS2007 is Bora |
| 21:00.04 | lardman | hmm, from reading ITT Mara says Nokia are working on a "fix" for the GPS |
| 21:00.12 | lardman | I wonder what that might be |
| 21:00.23 | GeneralAntilles | Version: 4.2008.7-1 = release number.build year.build week-build number |
| 21:00.31 | RST38h | Can be any number of things |
| 21:00.43 | towo | I'd rather have a fix for the damn network drivers being stupid. |
| 21:00.52 | lardman|tv | RST38h: let's hope it's AGPS functionality or an API for us to do the job |
| 21:00.56 | RST38h | From a settings tweak on the chip to uploading almanac and other data |
| 21:01.10 | Ziriuz | So mine it's OS2007, right? |
| 21:01.22 | RST38h | The datasheet on the chip says that it has two serial inputs - one for data, another one for position assistance |
| 21:01.50 | RST38h | The AGPS serial line is supposed to be connected to the baseband chip in the phone. Of course, ITs do not have the baseband chip |
| 21:01.51 | AStorm | well, almanac upload would be nice |
| 21:02.04 | GeneralAntilles | [4:56pm] <Ziriuz> GeneralAntilles: My Information: "Internet Tablet OS2007 hacker edition for the 770 |
| 21:02.05 | GeneralAntilles | Yes. |
| 21:02.24 | AStorm | get appprox. time and location, then upload older almanac of that place |
| 21:02.25 | RST38h | So the real question is: is that second serial line connected to anything in ITs and if not, whether it is possible to upload the same data using the main line |
| 21:02.29 | Ziriuz | GeneralAntilles: ok, thank you so much ;) |
| 21:02.36 | GeneralAntilles | Sure |
| 21:02.44 | lardman|tv | I agree with AStorm, and the current position data must be stored somewhere when the chip is shut down |
| 21:02.49 | lardman|tv | bbiab |
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| 21:12.00 | lcuk | last known gps locaiton is stored in linuxfilesys somewhere i came across it once |
| 21:12.14 | lcuk | errr - infact its in the map i think |
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| 21:35.24 | flo_e90 | re |
| 21:38.29 | RST38h | lcuk: There is no guarantee you *can* feed it to the chip =( |
| 21:45.07 | lardman|tv | somewhere under /var/lib/gps iirc |
| 21:45.42 | lardman|tv | though the position isn't too important, it's the ephemeris data, etc., and what format it's saved in, etc. |
| 21:49.56 | AStorm | ephemeris is valid at the same time in the same place |
| 21:50.05 | AStorm | give or take a few |
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| 22:17.27 | lardman | AStorm: yes indeed, and if we can feed a given AGPS chipset valid ephemeris data, knowing the time & position, then is should help the lock time |
| 22:18.26 | lardman | that reads wrong. If we can feed a given N810 a set of ephemeris data knowing its position... etc. |
| 22:25.01 | AStorm | we'd need to store the full daily data to almost guarantee an immediate fix :) |
| 22:25.46 | AStorm | ok, I've hacked cx3110x to build vs 2.6.25 |
| 22:25.49 | AStorm | w/ slub |
| 22:26.05 | AStorm | umac and mtum need some part of slab it seems |
| 22:26.17 | KotCzarny | whoo hoo |
| 22:26.19 | AStorm | I provided the missing table |
| 22:26.20 | KotCzarny | does it work too? |
| 22:26.23 | johnx | w00! |
| 22:26.27 | AStorm | have to check |
| 22:26.35 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 22:27.02 | AStorm | brb, moving irc fom n810 to laptop |
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| 22:29.06 | lardman | AStorm: or calculate the required data.... |
| 22:29.28 | KotCzarny | lardman: or get proper data from mesh network |
| 22:29.30 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 22:29.46 | lardman | yeah, from the supl server |
| 22:29.58 | lardman | but the point is until we know the format, we can't do anything |
| 22:30.22 | KotCzarny | is it encrypted? |
| 22:30.52 | lardman | what supl or the location data which is fed to the AGPS chip? |
| 22:31.38 | lardman | I don;t know about the former (not much point in looking if there's nothing to do with it) and I can't imagine the latter is |
| 22:31.40 | KotCzarny | data fed |
| 22:32.01 | lardman | nah, but probably in some chip-specific format |
| 22:32.35 | KotCzarny | using 11bit data is a good encryption ;) |
| 22:32.49 | lardman | :) |
| 22:33.26 | lardman | have a read of this: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16057&page=11 |
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| 22:34.57 | KotCzarny | grrre |
| 22:35.05 | KotCzarny | i hate copying links from aterm |
| 22:35.27 | KotCzarny | stupid firefox. |
| 22:35.33 | KotCzarny | can you paste it again? |
| 22:35.45 | KotCzarny | (i can't join it) |
| 22:35.52 | lardman | sure, this is the first page |
| 22:35.54 | lardman | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16057 |
| 22:36.02 | KotCzarny | thx |
| 22:36.06 | lardman | np |
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| 22:37.50 | lardman | pg 5 is where it moves on from the leap year fix to talking about the format of nvd_data, etc. |
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| 22:41.14 | AStorm | need to redo the initfs too, put new modules on it |
| 22:41.24 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 22:41.35 | KotCzarny | or run over usb? |
| 22:43.20 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 22:43.28 | KotCzarny | this thread should be sticky |
| 22:43.40 | KotCzarny | if it really does what people experience |
| 22:43.48 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 22:45.27 | AStorm | hmm |
| 22:45.33 | AStorm | weird |
| 22:45.44 | AStorm | my original kernel now can't see mmc cards ;P |
| 22:45.51 | AStorm | I haven't flashed anything yet |
| 22:45.59 | AStorm | a real nice wtf |
| 22:46.00 | KotCzarny | maybe you forgot to enable it? |
| 22:46.01 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 22:46.06 | AStorm | enable what? |
| 22:46.10 | AStorm | it's the *original* kernel |
| 22:46.16 | AStorm | just rebooted |
| 22:46.17 | KotCzarny | ah. |
| 22:46.55 | AStorm | kernel sees them |
| 22:47.03 | AStorm | but hal or udev doesn't |
| 22:47.11 | AStorm | or dbus |
| 22:51.10 | AStorm | ahha |
| 22:51.19 | AStorm | they're sent via USB |
| 22:51.25 | AStorm | duhdiduh |
| 22:51.36 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 22:52.00 | Cptnodegard | whats that ebook reader called again? |
| 22:52.13 | johnx | fbreader |
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| 22:52.18 | Cptnodegard | does it do html? |
| 22:52.28 | AStorm | nope |
| 22:52.29 | KotCzarny | browser does html |
| 22:52.31 | AStorm | plain txt only |
| 22:52.35 | johnx | eh? |
| 22:52.39 | johnx | it reads html |
| 22:52.40 | AStorm | browser isn't an ebook reader |
| 22:52.41 | Cptnodegard | thats gay |
| 22:52.49 | KotCzarny | astorm: prove it |
| 22:52.50 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 22:52.51 | AStorm | johnx: really? |
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| 22:52.57 | AStorm | hmmhmm |
| 22:53.01 | AStorm | must've an older version |
| 22:53.05 | johnx | I've read like thousands of pages of html in fbreader over the years |
| 22:53.11 | tank-man | html in fbreader wasnt to my liking |
| 22:53.24 | johnx | it does squish the formatting a bit |
| 22:53.28 | AStorm | ok, now running initfs thingy |
| 22:53.31 | KotCzarny | html is easy to parse anyway |
| 22:53.34 | tank-man | i think i had problems with links |
| 22:53.41 | johnx | I'd rather have that than horizontal scrolling though |
| 22:53.50 | GeneralAntilles | It's been able to do html for a really long time. |
| 22:54.13 | johnx | yeah, I remember reading html in fbreader on a zaurus 5500 I think |
| 22:54.19 | GeneralAntilles | I've read some like 2 dozen books in html in FBReader. |
| 22:54.21 | AStorm | johnx: enable resizing in the browser then |
| 22:54.34 | AStorm | it tends to avoid horizontal scrolling really well |
| 22:54.46 | AStorm | s/resizing/reformatting/ |
| 22:54.56 | AStorm | infobot: lame, no memory ;) |
| 22:55.13 | johnx | at the cost of being painfully slow... Anyways, without bookmarking it makes a poor ebook reader |
| 22:55.15 | KotCzarny | using fixed pixels in html is just wrong |
| 22:55.31 | johnx | ^what he said^ |
| 22:55.36 | KotCzarny | otherwise it should fit the window without problem |
| 22:55.36 | AStorm | ok, time to grab initfs_something |
| 22:55.38 | Cptnodegard | ill test it and hope it works. finally got the ebook ive been searching for for ages |
| 22:55.41 | AStorm | and kernel_flasher |
| 22:55.50 | KotCzarny | johnx: width=something |
| 22:55.54 | AStorm | actually, to grab the kernel and initfs, not flash them |
| 22:56.08 | Cptnodegard | FB read/F Breader :D |
| 22:56.17 | AStorm | I don't trust fanoush' tools |
| 22:56.32 | johnx | fair enough, but they've never done me wrong |
| 22:56.34 | AStorm | they've made me reflash N with the official flasher already ;P |
| 22:56.58 | KotCzarny | johnx: you have mentioned 'horizontal scrolling' |
| 22:57.21 | KotCzarny | the only way to html be wider than window is to use fixed widths |
| 22:57.25 | KotCzarny | (or large pics) |
| 22:57.26 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 22:57.46 | johnx | yes, and I *agreed* with you |
| 22:58.12 | johnx | :) |
| 22:58.16 | KotCzarny | i thought you were dissatisfied with horizontal scrolling? :) |
| 22:59.02 | lardman | 'night chaps |
| 22:59.06 | GeneralAntilles | fanoush's stuff has never ever let me down. |
| 22:59.08 | GeneralAntilles | He's no chump. |
| 22:59.10 | johnx | 'night lardman|gone |
| 22:59.29 | KotCzarny | johnx: he is too fast |
| 22:59.30 | KotCzarny | ;) |
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| 23:01.37 | AStorm | hmm, usb charger is much better than the lousy 750 mA thingy |
| 23:01.39 | AStorm | ;> |
| 23:01.50 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:02.02 | KotCzarny | you mean usb port supplies more than 500mA |
| 23:02.03 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:02.10 | AStorm | much more |
| 23:02.13 | AStorm | more like 1A here |
| 23:02.18 | KotCzarny | poor usb.. |
| 23:02.20 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 23:02.24 | AStorm | nah, laptop ;) |
| 23:02.29 | KotCzarny | you should add some current limiter |
| 23:02.34 | AStorm | why? |
| 23:02.43 | AStorm | it's the official nokia USB charger |
| 23:02.51 | KotCzarny | ahum |
| 23:02.53 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:02.54 | AStorm | it slowly increases current after negotiating 500mA |
| 23:03.02 | AStorm | smart thing |
| 23:03.23 | AStorm | then it backs off if it sees a voltage drop, albeit small |
| 23:03.35 | AStorm | or if the requirements are met ;P |
| 23:03.39 | KotCzarny | nice |
| 23:04.58 | AStorm | additionally, it's small |
| 23:05.18 | AStorm | but it has a very short cable |
| 23:05.40 | AStorm | bout 15 cm |
| 23:06.04 | KotCzarny | can be good and bad |
| 23:06.23 | AStorm | usually bad ;) |
| 23:06.40 | AStorm | unless you like to carry an usb A extension cable |
| 23:06.44 | AStorm | ok, time to redo the initfs |
| 23:06.53 | AStorm | then, rock and roll |
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| 23:07.39 | Cptnodegard | o.o |
| 23:07.42 | Cptnodegard | the text is bloody big |
| 23:07.45 | Cptnodegard | im not blind |
| 23:07.53 | GeneralAntilles | What text? |
| 23:08.02 | KotCzarny | ...yet |
| 23:08.05 | johnx | this is incredible progress AStorm. Wish I could stay around and see how you do, but I'm off to work. :) |
| 23:08.26 | Cptnodegard | fbreader...there has to be an option to reduce the text someplace |
| 23:08.31 | Cptnodegard | reduce it like...75% |
| 23:08.35 | KotCzarny | you can |
| 23:08.42 | KotCzarny | just set the font size |
| 23:08.46 | WorkingOnWise | has anyone used Dasher in the N800/810? |
| 23:09.17 | Cptnodegard | where do i set the font? |
| 23:09.26 | AStorm | WorkingOnWise: that's another project of mine :> |
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| 23:09.33 | AStorm | it's said to work, but slow |
| 23:09.42 | GeneralAntilles | Cptnodegard, check the prefs. . . . |
| 23:09.45 | AStorm | also, new dasher has broken direct input mode, which makes it pointless |
| 23:09.46 | GeneralAntilles | There's options for everything. |
| 23:09.48 | lcuk | Preferences/Styles |
| 23:09.49 | AStorm | ;> |
| 23:09.56 | lcuk | "Size" ;) |
| 23:10.14 | KotCzarny | maybe he is blind from reading small text |
| 23:10.15 | AStorm | WorkingOnWise: I patched the hell out of older dashers to make them work |
| 23:10.16 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 23:10.35 | Cptnodegard | feels stupid, blames hidden tabs :P |
| 23:10.35 | AStorm | KotCzarny: or wants to put N 10m in front |
| 23:10.36 | Cptnodegard | thx |
| 23:10.37 | WorkingOnWise | AStorm: I just today remembered that app. It might be right at home on the N800 |
| 23:10.52 | AStorm | WorkingOnWise: it has some hildon support, yup |
| 23:10.58 | AStorm | but very little |
| 23:11.07 | KotCzarny | 10m? that's farther than arm size |
| 23:11.07 | AStorm | needs direct mode fixed, which I have :D |
| 23:11.19 | WorkingOnWise | AStorm: do you happen to have a deb of any working Dasher? |
| 23:11.23 | WorkingOnWise | sweet |
| 23:11.26 | AStorm | WorkingOnWise: grep the web |
| 23:11.31 | WorkingOnWise | lol |
| 23:11.32 | AStorm | uhm, I mean, google |
| 23:11.34 | WorkingOnWise | ok |
| 23:11.40 | WorkingOnWise | yeah :) |
| 23:11.42 | AStorm | that v. is old |
| 23:11.50 | AStorm | but it might work, remember to start in direct mode |
| 23:11.55 | acydlord | lol |
| 23:11.55 | WorkingOnWise | ok. |
| 23:11.56 | WorkingOnWise | ty |
| 23:12.18 | AStorm | it's slow, unfortunately |
| 23:12.25 | AStorm | newer versions are faster |
| 23:12.35 | AStorm | but need my patch for direct input to work |
| 23:13.03 | AStorm | (someone made a stupid mistake of assuming everyone has GNOME at-spi running if gnome support is on) |
| 23:13.35 | AStorm | (which Hildon doesn't have, but the rest of gnome supp. is too useful to drop) |
| 23:14.12 | AStorm | ok, how to grab the current kernel off N? |
| 23:14.19 | KotCzarny | dd |
| 23:14.27 | WorkingOnWise | ah. are the dev's for Dasher helpful in getting it working on Maemo? |
| 23:14.29 | KotCzarny | it's a simple data dump |
| 23:14.38 | KotCzarny | you don't have to parse it or anything |
| 23:14.42 | KotCzarny | 2mb in size |
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| 23:15.12 | AStorm | KotCzarny: good |
| 23:15.37 | AStorm | WorkingOnWise: its devel is currently on hold due to temporary lack of funding |
| 23:15.50 | KotCzarny | you will get some zeroes too but.. :) |
| 23:15.59 | AStorm | KotCzarny: padding, no problem with it |
| 23:16.06 | AStorm | can easily cut that |
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| 23:16.18 | AStorm | what's the device name? |
| 23:16.28 | KotCzarny | it's the 2mb one |
| 23:16.34 | KotCzarny | probably mtdblock2 or 3 |
| 23:16.35 | AStorm | mtd<nr>? |
| 23:16.39 | AStorm | mhm |
| 23:16.53 | AStorm | 2 I guess |
| 23:16.59 | AStorm | 1 is probably NOLO |
| 23:17.03 | WorkingOnWise | AStorm: ah. didnt know that. It's been a while since I have read their site I guess.... |
| 23:17.04 | AStorm | 3 initfs |
| 23:17.13 | AStorm | and 4 is the 256MB flash |
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| 23:18.31 | AStorm | yup, I was right |
| 23:18.50 | AStorm | WorkingOnWise: read the google group |
| 23:18.59 | AStorm | site is really out of date |
| 23:19.25 | AStorm | btw, dasher also needs a certain simple crash fix :> |
| 23:19.34 | KotCzarny | 2l8 |
| 23:19.35 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 23:20.35 | AStorm | at least older versions |
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| 23:21.16 | KotCzarny | gana based in uk |
| 23:21.20 | KotCzarny | ghana |
| 23:21.55 | AStorm | what was the key I have to press to enable flash mode? |
| 23:22.03 | AStorm | uhm, hold during startup |
| 23:22.11 | Our_man_in_ghana | haha, i'm not actually from ghana... |
| 23:22.14 | KotCzarny | you can flash from the device.. |
| 23:22.24 | KotCzarny | it's a simple mtdblock rewrite |
| 23:22.41 | Cptnodegard | ok now im confused... how do i scroll a page at a time and not line for line? |
| 23:22.51 | KotCzarny | cpt: see options |
| 23:23.17 | Cptnodegard | theres an option for scrolling but i dont see anything looking to mean "one page at a time" |
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| 23:23.53 | AStorm | KotCzarny: no, last time I did it it failed horribly |
| 23:23.57 | AStorm | so, I won't |
| 23:24.01 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 23:24.02 | KotCzarny | ok |
| 23:24.03 | AStorm | Nokia flasher it is for me |
| 23:24.06 | KotCzarny | you're right |
| 23:24.15 | KotCzarny | fanoush kernel flasher does some magic too |
| 23:24.22 | AStorm | yeah right |
| 23:24.24 | AStorm | like, padding ;P |
| 23:24.30 | AStorm | Nokia flasher does that too |
| 23:24.33 | KotCzarny | #we need this in hex for NOLO header |
| 23:24.41 | AStorm | etc. |
| 23:24.53 | AStorm | again, flasher-3 also does all that |
| 23:24.54 | Atarii | AStorm hold "home" and press power |
| 23:24.59 | AStorm | mhm, Home |
| 23:25.01 | AStorm | good |
| 23:25.15 | AStorm | first, unpacking initfs |
| 23:26.15 | KotCzarny | i wonder if simply setting kernel size to 2mb and leaving ignoring padding for linux itself would be enough |
| 23:26.24 | Atarii | AStorm, what is it you've been doing? |
| 23:26.39 | AStorm | Atarii: upgrading the kernel to 2.6.25 |
| 23:26.52 | AStorm | KotCzarny: hmmhmm, maybe |
| 23:26.58 | AStorm | who cares ;) |
| 23:27.16 | Atarii | wont affect me on my 2008he then? ho hum :( |
| 23:27.19 | KotCzarny | that way reflashing kernel would be a simple dd |
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| 23:32.33 | AStorm | KotCzarny: nay |
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| 23:37.46 | AStorm | KotCzarny: do you think I can just grab /mnt/initfs? |
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| 23:37.56 | AStorm | as I don't have jffs2 support on the laptop |
| 23:38.10 | KotCzarny | i think, yes |
| 23:38.22 | WorkingOnWise | is there any way to get full flash support in the browser on OS2008? |
| 23:38.33 | AStorm | WorkingOnWise: uhm, it has one? |
| 23:38.35 | AStorm | in OS2008 |
| 23:38.38 | AStorm | not 2007 |
| 23:39.12 | WorkingOnWise | not full...ther are several sites I go to that show the flash logo where ther should be a flash app. |
| 23:39.17 | WorkingOnWise | in OS2008 |
| 23:39.23 | AStorm | broken sites, sorry |
| 23:39.30 | AStorm | it does have full normal Flash |
| 23:39.42 | AStorm | a bit slow, but working |
| 23:39.58 | lcuk | are you sure its flash and not shockwave or whatever the similar thingy which runs 3d stuff is |
| 23:40.16 | WorkingOnWise | the only browser I cant use on these sites is microb. even minefield on OS2008 works with them.... |
| 23:40.19 | lcuk | paste link to the page and we can tell from here |
| 23:40.28 | AStorm | WorkingOnWise: broken site, sorry |
| 23:40.32 | AStorm | broken UA sniffer |
| 23:40.40 | WorkingOnWise | brb...geting a few links. |
| 23:40.55 | AStorm | if Minefield on OS2008 works, then it means the page is broken |
| 23:40.57 | AStorm | ;> |
| 23:42.41 | WorkingOnWise | http://iscrybe.com/main/index.php on the right side of the page there is a flash logo on microb |
| 23:43.15 | WorkingOnWise | it's actuallf a flask movie |
| 23:43.17 | AStorm | uhm, it's normal youtube embedded player |
| 23:43.19 | WorkingOnWise | actually |
| 23:43.42 | WorkingOnWise | AStorm: did you view it in microb? |
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| 23:43.48 | lcuk | are you sure youve not got flashblock |
| 23:44.49 | WorkingOnWise | nope. adblock, google gears, and shockwave flash, and the default |
| 23:44.57 | AStorm | yeah, it works |
| 23:45.08 | AStorm | no, wait |
| 23:45.18 | AStorm | the flash was loading, but... |
| 23:45.20 | WorkingOnWise | thats wierd |
| 23:45.41 | AStorm | had Flash unchecked ;P |
| 23:45.49 | WorkingOnWise | all i have is the flash logo there where the movie... |
| 23:46.04 | AStorm | works just fine |
| 23:46.08 | AStorm | you must've Flashblock |
| 23:46.21 | AStorm | and then, Shockwave Flash is probably disabled |
| 23:46.23 | AStorm | like here |
| 23:46.28 | Atarii | or adblock subscription? |
| 23:46.28 | AStorm | check the "zoom" icon |
| 23:46.37 | AStorm | in the menu, pick Components |
| 23:46.44 | AStorm | if Flash is unchecked, that's the culprit |
| 23:46.59 | WorkingOnWise | already did that....checked. |
| 23:47.05 | AStorm | adblock? |
| 23:47.29 | WorkingOnWise | just turned it off and restarted microb...same |
| 23:48.11 | AStorm | flashblock isn't working properly it seems |
| 23:48.49 | WorkingOnWise | isnt flashblock a browser addon? |
| 23:49.23 | WorkingOnWise | i dont have flashblock in my components list |
| 23:49.43 | AStorm | ok |
| 23:49.45 | lcuk | corrupted file? does flash work elsewhere |
| 23:49.53 | AStorm | well, here it does |
| 23:49.57 | AStorm | including that site |
| 23:50.02 | AStorm | ok, time to test |
| 23:50.07 | WorkingOnWise | youtube works.... |
| 23:50.17 | lcuk | clear cache and try again |
| 23:50.21 | WorkingOnWise | lemme go make sure it still does.... |
| 23:53.36 | WorkingOnWise | nope. flash across the board, youtube, is broke here. |
| 23:53.57 | WorkingOnWise | can I reinstall microb without a reflash? |
| 23:54.12 | WorkingOnWise | please yes please yes please yes |
| 23:55.33 | WorkingOnWise | cleared the cache before I hit youtube too. |
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| 23:57.28 | WorkingOnWise | I'm dual booting to my SDHC card. I'm going into the OS on the internal flash and see if it works there |
| 23:57.32 | lcuk | fully reboot `1st |
| 23:57.35 | WorkingOnWise | flash that is |
| 23:57.43 | lcuk | good |
| 23:57.55 | AStorm | ok, got initfs (tar works wonders) |
| 23:58.04 | AStorm | now time for major hax |
| 23:58.06 | WorkingOnWise | what do you mean fully? |
| 23:58.14 | WorkingOnWise | lcuk: |
| 23:58.39 | lcuk | pop battery :) i still havent sussed out how to switch it off fully without |
| 23:58.56 | AStorm | you can by picking Power Off option in the power menu |
| 23:59.09 | WorkingOnWise | oh. didnt realize it stayed hot at all |
| 23:59.23 | AStorm | but it's better to pull, just to be sure |
| 23:59.46 | lcuk | i did that storm, the first drawing program i had wrote directly to the omapfb - it wrote directly over the charging thing when i plugged it in about 5 minutes after "turning off" |
