| 00:00.15 | gribouille | KotCzarny, what do you mean with "raw flash" ? |
| 00:00.25 | gribouille | without fs ? |
| 00:00.49 | KotCzarny | how can i put it in another words? |
| 00:00.55 | KotCzarny | can someone help him? |
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| 00:02.12 | termsig | not me ;) |
| 00:02.19 | KotCzarny | grib: anyway, answer is: it's not in the fs, you can't change kernel by replacing a file |
| 00:03.26 | termsig | gribouille: why u want change something in kernel ? |
| 00:03.43 | KotCzarny | termsig: use 'do' and 'are' words |
| 00:03.49 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 00:04.00 | KotCzarny | and 'to' |
| 00:04.32 | termsig | KotCzarny: ok, but my english is really bad ;> |
| 00:04.39 | KotCzarny | no problem |
| 00:04.45 | KotCzarny | as long you wan't it to get better ;) |
| 00:04.48 | gribouille | termsig, no, I just want to learn |
| 00:04.48 | KotCzarny | erm. |
| 00:04.50 | KotCzarny | *want |
| 00:04.51 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 00:05.13 | termsig | ok i will try ;) |
| 00:05.13 | KotCzarny | hi lcuk |
| 00:05.37 | lcuk | hi kot |
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| 00:05.48 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 00:05.56 | KotCzarny | breakfast time, bbl |
| 00:06.07 | termsig | gribouille: check that http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/wizard-mounter/ |
| 00:06.13 | lcuk | catch ya tomrrow prob kot |
| 00:06.30 | termsig | KotCzarny: breakfast? |
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| 00:13.55 | LinuxCode | i think lcuk realized theres rubbish on tv |
| 00:13.57 | LinuxCode | ;-} |
| 00:15.35 | lcuk | no been hacking at my code |
| 00:16.40 | lcuk | been trying to work out how to split up a whole range of modules but still have them as a closely coupled interrelated set.. |
| 00:21.05 | LinuxCode | ;-] |
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| 00:37.43 | smackpotato | anyone actually get mount wizard working |
| 00:40.41 | gribouille | is it possible to watch wmv videos on the tablet ? |
| 00:41.22 | smackpotato | i think not encripted ones |
| 00:41.36 | smackpotato | bloomberg.com doesnt work |
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| 00:46.37 | gribouille | the product pages states it can display WMV, but it seem overstated |
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| 00:59.53 | gribouille | there are some videos I can see on ubuntu, but not on my tablet |
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| 01:00.48 | smackpotato | have you tied orb |
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| 01:01.07 | gribouille | no, what is it ? |
| 01:02.20 | gribouille | smackpotato, where can I find it ? |
| 01:02.31 | smackpotato | it recasts in flash from a windows desktop |
| 01:02.50 | smackpotato | orb.com |
| 01:03.07 | gribouille | I thought it was an app |
| 01:03.24 | smackpotato | no not a maemo app |
| 01:03.53 | gribouille | is it free ? |
| 01:03.59 | smackpotato | you can view all yor desktop vedeos though |
| 01:04.09 | smackpotato | videos |
| 01:04.18 | rkeene | Has anyone here used 0xFFFF's identify feature on a "config" partition ? Is it supposed to be able to identify that ? |
| 01:04.51 | gribouille | smackpotato, how does it work ? |
| 01:04.55 | smackpotato | version 2 doesent work for me but version1 was great |
| 01:06.49 | smackpotato | your destop is connected to there server, you have a webpage where you can view what is rebroadcast |
| 01:07.36 | smackpotato | there is an open source project that does the same but i forget its name |
| 01:07.58 | gribouille | smackpotato, so I have to install orb on my wondows box ? |
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| 01:10.20 | smackpotato | ya thats an idea i took it off mine though it uses a lot of cycles |
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| 01:12.53 | gribouille | smackpotato, is it possible to use orb without installing it ? |
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| 01:14.45 | smackpotato | no |
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| 01:53.21 | kwan | Hi I recompiled glib to latest and I get the following error ImportError: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: hildon_g_scanner_cache_open |
| 01:53.29 | kwan | any ideas how to resolve this? |
| 01:54.11 | kwan | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:54.11 | kwan | ImportError: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: hildon_g_scanner_cache_open |
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| 01:59.22 | johnx | it looks like their might be changes to glib for the device that haven't made their way upstream? |
| 01:59.53 | johnx | or maybe just an API change between the versions of glib you used? |
| 02:10.18 | kwan | so i used glib 2.16 and copied over the libgobject libgtk libgthread libglib libraries to the n810 from maemo sdk |
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| 02:37.01 | SHADOW6 | Y cant i get last fm for canola player.... Anyone els haveing this problem |
| 02:37.56 | SHADOW6 | Anyone? |
| 02:40.29 | johnx | you can't install it? |
| 02:40.37 | rkeene | Snoozefest. |
| 02:41.05 | johnx | give us an error message...or something. No one can help you if you just say "I can't get it" |
| 02:43.44 | Navi | Last.fm has been down. |
| 02:43.49 | Navi | Power outages |
| 02:44.02 | Navi | So it won't work 'cuz it isn't up :P |
| 02:45.56 | KotCzarny | heh |
| 02:45.58 | KotCzarny | hehehe |
| 02:46.07 | KotCzarny | now, that's a bug! |
| 02:46.31 | KotCzarny | 'last fm doesn't work because last fm server is down' |
| 02:46.39 | johnx | bug #1337: "Canola can't connect to servers that aren't on." |
| 02:47.18 | KotCzarny | resolve: 'kill the user' |
| 02:47.27 | KotCzarny | problem solved. |
| 02:47.29 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 03:02.17 | smackpotato | is it common knowledge that ebay bluetooth dongles are counterfit |
| 03:03.06 | KotCzarny | yup |
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| 03:03.19 | KotCzarny | mine came with plastic 'antenna' |
| 03:03.49 | KotCzarny | at least connector is available on it :) |
| 03:06.12 | briand | 3 |
| 03:13.31 | WormFood | Can someone point me to an unzip package for os2008? (command line is fine, i don't need a gui) |
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| 03:27.23 | WormFood | never mind, I found it...it was in my list of packages |
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| 04:14.02 | flaviorib | hi people, how can i test my maemo apps without download more than 1gb? |
| 04:14.25 | pupnik_ | buy a tablet |
| 04:14.34 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 04:14.39 | flaviorib | huahuauhahuahuahua |
| 04:15.30 | KotCzarny | maybe if you had another armel-hildon device |
| 04:15.32 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 04:25.06 | ekt | Test. |
| 04:25.56 | KotCzarny | irc: command not found: Test. |
| 04:26.16 | ekt | Do you know whete to find libart |
| 04:26.45 | KotCzarny | debian.org ? |
| 04:26.48 | KotCzarny | in armel ports |
| 04:27.01 | ekt | Danke |
| 04:32.48 | ekt | arm = armel? |
| 04:32.52 | KotCzarny | no |
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| 04:39.41 | Jsn0327 | I am currently trying to partition my internal 2 gig memory card on the n810 using sfdisk |
| 04:40.07 | Jsn0327 | I unmounted mmc2, remounted it under sfdisk and typed /dev/mmcblk0p1:1,15000,6 |
| 04:40.33 | Jsn0327 | i get an error saying "unrecgonized input: 1,15000,6" |
| 04:40.39 | Jsn0327 | does anyone know what i'm doing wrong? |
| 04:41.04 | KotCzarny | 'remounted undef sfdisk' ? |
| 04:41.11 | KotCzarny | *under |
| 04:41.28 | Jsn0327 | yeah sfdisk /dev/mmcblk0 |
| 04:41.41 | KotCzarny | i'm just arguing with terminology |
| 04:41.42 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:42.11 | KotCzarny | if you want easier task just connect it via usb to pc and run partitioning tool on pc |
| 04:42.19 | KotCzarny | sfdisk is hardcore |
| 04:42.20 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 04:42.54 | Jsn0327 | well i'm following instructions and i'm only typing what is in the instructions. I didn't think that i could mess it up that way |
| 04:43.07 | KotCzarny | apparently you could |
| 04:43.10 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 04:43.19 | KotCzarny | because it's not working, right? |
| 04:43.20 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:44.08 | Jsn0327 | does anyone have anything to say that isn't obvious? |
| 04:44.45 | KotCzarny | [cricket's chirping] |
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| 04:48.04 | ekt | the armel libart on debian it incompatible |
| 04:48.23 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 04:48.33 | KotCzarny | ekt: then gronmayer.com/it/ |
| 04:48.38 | KotCzarny | or compile it yourself |
| 04:49.22 | ekt | i'm pretty sucky at it. And many other tjings |
| 04:49.32 | ekt | like typing |
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| 04:52.00 | Jsn0327 | is a Linux_83 partition the same thing as a ext 3 partition? |
| 04:52.58 | KotCzarny | yes |
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| 05:11.06 | Navi | Woo, Last.fm is back up |
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| 08:42.20 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 08:45.42 | WormFood | good afternoon Jaffa |
| 08:46.00 | WormFood | its almost 5pm here :P |
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| 10:30.13 | trickie | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS2097004728.html |
| 10:30.16 | trickie | interesting |
| 10:31.07 | qwerty12 | Yeah, I saw the thread on ITT. Be interesting for me actually as I use Ubuntu as main distro. |
| 10:31.32 | GeneralAntilles | I'm not sure if I "get" it |
| 10:31.45 | GeneralAntilles | Is it just another distro's arm port? |
| 10:32.04 | qwerty12 | I'm not sure on what will happen to Maemo. |
| 10:32.17 | AStorm | What it deserves |
| 10:32.32 | AStorm | it's junk, really |
| 10:32.40 | AStorm | hack on hack on hack |
| 10:32.53 | AStorm | the only nice thing in it is UI |
| 10:32.56 | GeneralAntilles | The important parts of maemo are already open and available. |
| 10:33.09 | AStorm | like, mce? |
| 10:33.12 | qwerty12 | AStorm, in that case, Ubuntu Mobile Edition is your thing :P |
| 10:33.23 | GeneralAntilles | Ubuntu Mobile is still junk at this point. |
| 10:33.27 | AStorm | yup |
| 10:33.34 | qwerty12 | True but it has Maemo ui |
| 10:33.48 | AStorm | but it's still more hacky |
| 10:33.49 | GeneralAntilles | Really, AStorm, whatever you may have against maemo and ITOS, there's nothing better on the playing field at the moment. |
| 10:34.08 | AStorm | GeneralAntilles: I know :( |
| 10:34.24 | AStorm | We need gcc 4.3 packaged for ARM |
| 10:34.41 | keesj | In setting up a native build environment, Mojo went to the extent of assembling its own single-board computer around an ARM-based Intel processor. |
| 10:34.42 | AStorm | plus older libstdc++ |
| 10:34.43 | GeneralAntilles | It's still a new product niche. |
| 10:34.45 | keesj | ? |
| 10:34.51 | GeneralAntilles | Things'll pick up when we get more manpower behind it. |
| 10:35.04 | AStorm | ah, right |
| 10:35.15 | keesj | I did not know that intel also did arm |
| 10:35.27 | AStorm | keesj: sure hey do, XScale |
| 10:35.37 | GeneralAntilles | They've mostly dropped it these days, though. |
| 10:35.39 | GeneralAntilles | Unfortunately. |
| 10:35.42 | AStorm | mhm |
| 10:35.50 | GeneralAntilles | x86 is the mobile field is straight-up shit. |
| 10:36.04 | AStorm | are too busy pushing multi-core and ULV x86 |
| 10:36.17 | GeneralAntilles | Shoehorning x86 into something it most certainly wasn't designed for is stupid. |
| 10:36.31 | GeneralAntilles | Better to put your energy into improving something that's already better. :\ |
| 10:36.36 | AStorm | it wasn't designed for anything |
| 10:36.43 | AStorm | x86 is hacky too |
| 10:36.57 | GeneralAntilles | But, meh, Intel wasn't a particularly important ARM player anyway. |
| 10:37.29 | AStorm | yup |
| 10:39.02 | GeneralAntilles | x86 really doesn't pull much advantage in an open source environment anyway. |
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| 10:39.28 | trickie | i could see ubuntu mobile converging more with maemo |
| 10:39.40 | trickie | would provide more manpower and infrastructure |
| 10:39.40 | AStorm | hehe |
| 10:39.41 | GeneralAntilles | They're already fairly close. |
| 10:39.51 | AStorm | We want a real input method |
| 10:39.57 | AStorm | e.g. AccessX |
| 10:40.06 | trickie | well even more, poosibly on the nokia/canonical level also |
| 10:40.12 | GeneralAntilles | Really, the entire mobile and embedded space is disturbingly fragmented. |
| 10:40.17 | AStorm | yup |
| 10:40.18 | trickie | im just making stuff up though |
| 10:40.26 | GeneralAntilles | It's really hurting users. |
| 10:40.30 | AStorm | Ubuntu and shuttleworth might unify it |
| 10:40.41 | trickie | i mean ubuntu will ship proprietary stuff it it needs to |
| 10:40.46 | trickie | so will nokia |
| 10:40.48 | AStorm | if they cooperate with Nokia |
| 10:41.02 | GeneralAntilles | I don't particularly care what, but we need some sort of standard. |
| 10:41.07 | AStorm | trickie: not with Maemo - it's just for one CPU |
| 10:41.18 | AStorm | GeneralAntilles: ARM is the standard |
| 10:41.31 | AStorm | the problems are with peripherials |
| 10:41.42 | GeneralAntilles | Software and library side. |
| 10:41.46 | AStorm | like PowerVR chip |
| 10:41.57 | AStorm | and wifi |
| 10:42.36 | AStorm | Software is close |
| 10:43.27 | AStorm | we have .deb here |
| 10:43.35 | trickie | AStorm: i know, but if that architecture/sub-architecture is also supported by ubuntu mobile, then the gains for maemo users could be big |
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| 10:43.42 | AStorm | yup |
| 10:43.50 | GeneralAntilles | Huh, MontaVista has a version out for OMAP3430 |
| 10:43.56 | AStorm | as Maemo is similar to Ubuntu |
| 10:43.56 | trickie | and of course ubuntu mobile would get quite a boost of marketing and manpower |
| 10:44.06 | AStorm | GeneralAntilles: how expensive? |
| 10:44.39 | AStorm | and, do they have a gfx driver and wifi right? |
| 10:44.45 | GeneralAntilles | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9696858938.html |
| 10:44.53 | GeneralAntilles | I like this line: The OMAP3430 clocks its core up to 800MHz. |
| 10:45.07 | trickie | GeneralAntilles: mamona is also starting to support it |
| 10:45.23 | AStorm | I want a new kernel, dammit |
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| 10:46.46 | AStorm | OIf I get the drivers working (with wireless extensions), only sky will be the limit |
| 10:47.07 | AStorm | ah, and ARM cross compiler, but that I already have |
| 10:48.45 | Gary | anyone know any good sites for themes :p |
| 10:49.03 | GeneralAntilles | maemo.org/downloads |
| 10:49.25 | qwerty12 | There's only about 3 themes. Not much. |
| 10:49.48 | GeneralAntilles | Echo is still the best |
| 10:49.55 | GeneralAntilles | Unless you're really into Star Trek |
| 10:49.55 | Gary | I saw a funny star trek stylee theme, but it was a bit ott |
| 10:50.00 | GeneralAntilles | In which case, LCARS is the way to go. :P |
| 10:50.15 | qwerty12 | Eww, Star Trek :O |
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| 10:52.20 | GeneralAntilles | goes Veruca Sault for a bit over the N900. |
| 10:53.39 | qwerty12 | I'm still undecided over a Pandora or N900. Then again commercial games are my thing so I'll sell my PSP, get a PSP Slim and an N900. |
| 10:54.09 | GeneralAntilles | qwerty12, I'm still convinced reusing Pandora code on the N900 is gonna be the way to go. |
| 10:56.18 | qwerty12 | GeneralAntilles, Probably, but is Pandora stuff guaranteed to run on the N900? I know the processor will be same but library differences, buttons etc may be a problem. But I prefer commercial games so Pandora compatibility isn't a high priority for me. |
| 10:56.38 | GeneralAntilles | It'll probably involve some porting |
| 10:56.49 | GeneralAntilles | but the base architecture is gonna be basically identical |
| 10:56.55 | GeneralAntilles | So porting should be fairly straightforward. |
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| 10:57.44 | qwerty12 | Ah, I guess having more games isn't a bad thing :). Of course, I may end up selling my N800 and PSP and getting an N900 and a Pandora. |
| 10:58.47 | qwerty12 | I may also be able to sell an broken Pocket PC for $30 :p |
| 10:59.14 | trickie | n900? |
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| 10:59.26 | qwerty12 | Let GeneralAntilles fill you in :p |
| 10:59.38 | qwerty12 | I don't know much anyway. |
| 11:00.41 | GeneralAntilles | There's no hard data at this point. |
| 11:00.55 | GeneralAntilles | But we can pretty much assume it'll be using the OMAP3430 |
| 11:02.27 | Gary | lol, just installed LCARS to see what it was like, OMG, hehehe |
| 11:02.42 | Gary | it's worth it for the giggles |
| 11:03.33 | Cptnodegard | decided to get creative |
| 11:03.34 | GeneralAntilles | It's more or less perfect. |
| 11:03.35 | Cptnodegard | http://captain-odegard.com/a650is/flowersv1.jpg |
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| 11:12.16 | RST38h | All right, fMSX, Speccy, and VGBA are now available from Extras repository. |
| 11:12.21 | RST38h | (thanks, XFade =)) |
| 11:13.06 | GeneralAntilles | Woo |
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| 11:50.01 | WormFood | nice...I take my N800 with me to work today, so I can play with garnet VM on the bus, and forget my stylus at home...good thing I had a toothpick with me to use instead ;) |
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| 11:55.19 | Cptnodegard | use the stylus hodler |
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| 12:31.46 | komputiko | hi |
| 12:31.53 | komputiko | anyone can helps me? |
| 12:32.01 | komputiko | i tried to install kde on my n800 |
| 12:32.31 | komputiko | but when i tried to install kde-358.deb, app admin crashed |
| 12:32.45 | komputiko | and now it only says there is no enough memory |
| 12:32.51 | komputiko | and the app list is empty! |
| 12:37.36 | GeneralAntilles | Did you try installing to the internal flash? |
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| 12:59.38 | komputiko | yes |
| 12:59.39 | komputiko | mmc2 is internal flash |
| 12:59.49 | komputiko | and i tried to install there |
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| 13:00.40 | komputiko | please help me :( |
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| 13:19.11 | cyberholic | hello everyone, tzmee again..... :) |
| 13:19.25 | cyberholic | anyone of you been playing with the google API for a while? |
| 13:20.20 | cyberholic | not one of you? *lol* |
| 13:21.51 | cyberholic | Ok, then i have a different question: does anyone of you know of some kind of "open contacts" project that i can join? |
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| 13:42.21 | komputiko | anyone installed kde succesfully? |
| 13:44.23 | komputiko | :-\ |
| 13:47.35 | GeneralAntilles | Lots of people |
| 13:47.40 | GeneralAntilles | Have you tried the KDE forum on ITT? |
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| 13:51.12 | MangoFusion | kde? bah, you should install gnome instead |
| 13:59.54 | mbuf | what is wrong with this code? http://rafb.net/p/ICUKod69.html |
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| 14:06.05 | pH5 | mbuf: it just hangs in while(1) instead of starting the gtk/glib main loop |
| 14:06.27 | mbuf | pH5, i don't get any output from location_changed |
| 14:06.42 | mbuf | pH5, ohh! i need to start gtk_main() |
| 14:06.48 | pH5 | mbuf: yes :) |
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| 14:10.25 | gribouille | hi |
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| 14:12.49 | mbuf | pH5, i also forgot to do gtk_init (&argc, &argv); |
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| 14:17.56 | smackpotato | is it common knowlage ebay bluetooth dongles are counterfit |
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| 14:21.37 | WormFood | counterfeit? |
| 14:22.03 | gribouille | how can I create partitions on an sd card ? |
| 14:23.21 | GeneralAntilles | Yes, smackpotato, the sizes go in reverse. :P |
| 14:23.48 | GeneralAntilles | rm_you_, you about? |
| 14:25.16 | smackpotato | the ad@rees was 11.11.11.11 |
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| 14:26.55 | komputiko | anyone installed succesfully kde on a n800? |
| 14:27.44 | gribouille | komputiko, good question |
| 14:28.02 | komputiko | :P |
| 14:28.26 | gribouille | if I use an internal sd card for virtual memory, will I lose the files in that card ? |
| 14:28.37 | komputiko | nop |
| 14:28.40 | GeneralAntilles | It just eats up 128MB of space |
| 14:28.46 | GeneralAntilles | It's a little loopback image |
| 14:28.48 | komputiko | only uses 128 MB |
| 14:28.54 | komputiko | it's a "virtual file" |
| 14:29.00 | komputiko | on the SD card |
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| 14:44.55 | gribouille | apt-get install diff : E: Couldn't find package diff |
| 14:45.06 | gribouille | where can I find diff ? |
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| 14:48.45 | komputiko | see in maemo.org |
| 14:48.48 | komputiko | for a repository |
| 14:49.16 | gribouille | the shell is really ugly |
| 14:49.22 | komputiko | xD |
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| 14:58.07 | GeneralAntilles | When was OS2008 released? |
| 14:58.13 | GeneralAntilles | November 19th or something. |
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| 15:04.14 | MangoFusion | anyone know of any good virtual midi keyboard for a NIT? |
| 15:04.20 | komputiko | anyone knows why, when installing kde on a n800, local-mm2.deb ALLWAYS give me an error |
| 15:05.00 | gribouille | can someone tell me how to put an internal memory card ? |
| 15:07.29 | freelikegnu | MangoFusion: I swa a vitual kb but it seemed to support only a single octave |
| 15:08.02 | freelikegnu | and I dont think NIT can do multitouch for chords |
| 15:08.22 | freelikegnu | a bluetooth musical kb would be nice :D |
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| 15:09.28 | gribouille | can someone tell me how to insert an internal memory card in the N800 please ? |
| 15:09.46 | GeneralAntilles | Put it in? |
| 15:09.57 | qwerty12 | Hehe, opening the battery cover? |
| 15:10.19 | GeneralAntilles | Face the pins towards the device, slide back the latch, slide in the card and hold it in, then slide out the latch. |
| 15:10.27 | qwerty12 | Flick up the switch and push in a memory card, click down the switch with the card inserted and close the battery cover. |
| 15:11.23 | MangoFusion | i've kindof got "learn how to play a musical instrument" way down on my todo list and was contemplating whether or not i could make some passable solution with my n800 |
| 15:11.44 | MangoFusion | though then again i reckon the screen would be too small and clumsy. probably better getting a real keyboard ;) |
| 15:12.29 | Cptnodegard | freelikegnu hack this http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3705 :P |
| 15:12.38 | gribouille | GeneralAntilles, what latch ? |
| 15:12.45 | qwerty12 | You are joking? |
| 15:12.55 | GeneralAntilles | The little metal tab that holds the card in. |
| 15:13.32 | gribouille | GeneralAntilles, it's very hard to move |
| 15:13.48 | MangoFusion | looked at those fold-ups, look a bit dodgy to me ;) |
| 15:13.54 | GeneralAntilles | It's designed not to come undone while the device is in use. |
| 15:14.27 | freelikegnu | Cptnodegard: of course you can always use a QWERTY bt kb :D |
| 15:14.46 | gribouille | ok thanks. it is not written in the manual |
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| 15:15.59 | lopz | hola |
| 15:16.17 | qwerty12 | pupnik, you around? |
| 15:17.55 | gribouille | it says there is no internal memory card. isn't mmc2 the internal memory card ? |
| 15:18.16 | qwerty12 | Yes, it is. |
| 15:19.11 | gribouille | so how can it say there is no internal mmc card while it has mountd it on /media/mmc2 ? |
| 15:19.38 | qwerty12 | I recently "killed" off my internal slot, but I kept taking out the battery and it worked fine. Is the card you put in there working fine? Formatted with FAT (it can be with ext2 but we will say FAT for simplicity at this moment)? |
| 15:20.04 | gribouille | qwerty12, of course |
| 15:21.11 | GeneralAntilles | So, uh, can I talk anybody into expanding my new MicroB article? |
| 15:21.35 | qwerty12 | As long as it isn't meanwhile :P |
| 15:21.53 | GeneralAntilles | <_< |
| 15:22.51 | pupnik | back qwerty12 |
| 15:23.09 | qwerty12 | pupnik, skeen. I got those modules I need to send. |
| 15:23.42 | komputiko | anyone knows why, when installing kde on a n800, local-mm2.deb ALLWAYS give me an error?? |
| 15:23.48 | pupnik | thanks! i ordered the usb adapter yesterday |
| 15:24.04 | gribouille | ok, my problem seems to be soved :-) |
| 15:24.07 | gribouille | solved |
| 15:24.25 | pupnik | qwerty12: downloadable? |
| 15:24.32 | qwerty12 | Ah, which webhost? |
| 15:24.34 | pupnik | or emailable? |
| 15:24.58 | qwerty12 | I don't mind either way, send me your email over PM or give me a webhost to upload to. |
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| 15:26.02 | qwerty12 | Ah skeen, I'll rapidshare it then seeing as you are in Germany. |
| 15:26.45 | qwerty12 | pupnik, http://rapidshare.com/files/108749473/rtl8187_linux_26.1010.0622.2006.tar.gz.html |
| 15:26.49 | pupnik | tyty |
| 15:27.15 | qwerty12 | I managed to insmod the modules fine with the script Realtek provided. dmesg showed the output was fine. |
| 15:27.20 | komputiko | please, help me :( |
| 15:27.58 | pupnik | komputiko: i have not used kde. go to internettablettalk.com and search for 'kde' |
| 15:28.18 | qwerty12 | Some notes though, I dont have the wifi adapter to test on :P, I compiled against a clean Nokia kernel so it should be fine and the Makefile wanted a EHDC (something like that) enabled, when I enabled it in kernel, it would always disable so I removed that EHDC line from the Makefile and it compiled :) |
| 15:28.47 | komputiko | yeahm i tried it, but the only reply founded for my problem is that the files downloaded are not ok, but that isn't |
| 15:28.52 | komputiko | !_! |
| 15:29.08 | qwerty12 | komputiko, what exactly is your error message? |
| 15:29.28 | komputiko | when i tried to install local-mm2.deb on a 2gb sd card |
| 15:29.44 | komputiko | it says "impossible to install" when finish |
| 15:29.53 | pupnik | could it be corrupt file? i can download local-mm2.deb and give md5sum of it |
| 15:30.05 | komputiko | mmm ok |
| 15:30.05 | qwerty12 | Hmm, go to tools, log and see what it says there. |
| 15:30.12 | pupnik | yes listen to qwerty12 |
| 15:30.43 | gribouille | does maemo-mapper work fine for you ? |
| 15:30.58 | pupnik | it is a pita for me to select region to download |
| 15:31.09 | pupnik | and it requires i have gps lock *and* internet connection during setup |
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| 15:31.33 | pupnik | which means standing out on the street for me |
| 15:31.39 | komputiko | "/media/mmc2/local.img is not a special block dispositive (translation by me...)" |
| 15:31.43 | gribouille | pupnik, does it sometimes hang ? |
| 15:31.53 | pupnik | gribouille: downloading the map data? |
| 15:31.56 | pupnik | or when |
| 15:32.06 | GeneralAntilles | gribouille, did you turn on auto-downloading? |
| 15:32.16 | pupnik | i haven't gotten it working yet |
| 15:32.24 | gribouille | pupnik, I'm trying to insert some POIs |
| 15:32.33 | gribouille | GeneralAntilles, of course I do |
| 15:32.54 | GeneralAntilles | pupnik, neither of those things are required. |
| 15:33.16 | komputiko | "/media/mmc2/local.img is not a special block device (translation by me...)" |
| 15:33.21 | komputiko | it says that |
| 15:33.22 | komputiko | on the log |
| 15:33.31 | gribouille | GeneralAntilles, what is auto-downloading exactly ? |
| 15:33.43 | GeneralAntilles | Means it'll download and cache maps as it needs them. |
| 15:33.50 | GeneralAntilles | Without that on, it'll only use cached maps. |
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| 15:34.02 | gribouille | GeneralAntilles, is it a bad thing ? |
| 15:34.06 | GeneralAntilles | No |
| 15:34.11 | GeneralAntilles | You have to have it on to get maps. |
| 15:34.16 | GeneralAntilles | Turn it off if you're in the car, though. ;) |
| 15:34.28 | GeneralAntilles | pupnik, you only need the internet connection to get maps. |
| 15:34.32 | GeneralAntilles | No GPS lock required. |
| 15:34.49 | komputiko | edu@edu-portatil:~$ md5sum local-mmc2.deb 3d15f70086a1b45aaf53a7f5f8ce4891 local-mmc2.deb |
| 15:34.50 | GeneralAntilles | Maemo Mapper would operate 100% fine if it never saw a GPS. |
| 15:35.35 | gribouille | GeneralAntilles, what's wrong with the gps ? |
| 15:35.43 | GeneralAntilles | Nothing |
| 15:36.37 | jose | hello |
| 15:36.55 | GeneralAntilles | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroB |
| 15:37.14 | jose | I started my first project on garage |
| 15:37.17 | komputiko | hola jose |
| 15:37.20 | jose | I'm excited! :-) |
| 15:37.48 | jose | hola komputiko, nos conocemos? (el mundo es tan pequenyo... :-) |
| 15:38.13 | komputiko | que yo sepa no :P |
| 15:38.16 | qwerty12 | GeneralAntilles, Nice article :), Maybe you could add a section on Plugins and extensions you can add? I'd do it but my English on the web isn't great (despite being born in England and not speaking any other lang :P) |
| 15:38.28 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah |
| 15:38.37 | GeneralAntilles | I'm taking a break. :P |
| 15:38.39 | gribouille | why have the basic commands been stripped down ? |
| 15:38.51 | GeneralAntilles | Because GNUtils is big and bloaty. |
| 15:38.54 | gribouille | can I read the article ? |
| 15:38.56 | GeneralAntilles | Takes RAM and storage. |
| 15:39.07 | jose | http://garage.maemo.org/projects/wiicontrol |
| 15:39.33 | jose | it can be of your interest if you own a wiimote, and you have python 2.5 installed in your NIT |
| 15:39.47 | qwerty12 | jose, are you jldiaz on ITT? :) |
| 15:39.52 | Navi | gah, annoying broken certificate |
| 15:40.01 | jose | I am, qwerty12 :-) |
| 15:40.11 | Navi | Ew |
| 15:40.18 | Navi | qwerty12 is annoying |
| 15:40.25 | qwerty12 | Aww, why? :P |
| 15:40.28 | GeneralAntilles | qwerty12, if you want to find all mentionings of MicroB/Firefox-based/Gecko-based browser in 770, N800, N810, and Maemo for me and link to the article that'd be excellent. |
| 15:40.32 | gribouille | is it possible to use the tablet as remote control ? |
| 15:40.34 | Navi | qwerty12, just kidding :) |
| 15:40.39 | jose | I forgot to change my default irc nickname... |
| 15:40.45 | GeneralAntilles | gribouille, short answer: yes long answer: for what? |
| 15:40.52 | jldiaz | ah, better now |
| 15:40.59 | gribouille | GeneralAntilles, to control a computer |
| 15:41.09 | pupnik | GeneralAntilles: um. maybe i was wrong about needing a lock. |
| 15:41.17 | GeneralAntilles | You were, pupnik. :P |
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| 15:41.21 | qwerty12 | GeneralAntilles, I could try, I'm not doing much else ATM. but i'm not versed on Wikipedia, so I'll send anything I find to you :). |
| 15:41.26 | GeneralAntilles | gribouille, what sort of computer? |
| 15:41.37 | qwerty12 | GeneralAntilles, here's a nice screenshot on plugins, http://i26.tinypic.com/3166aab.png :P |
| 15:41.41 | GeneralAntilles | qwerty12, think of it as an opportunity. ;) |
| 15:41.46 | qwerty12 | Navi, :) |
| 15:41.58 | komputiko | i think that install kde is impossible |
| 15:42.04 | gribouille | GeneralAntilles, a kind of media cente |
| 15:42.05 | gribouille | r |
| 15:42.09 | komputiko | its everythink a joke |
| 15:42.11 | komputiko | from ITT |
| 15:42.22 | jldiaz | gribouille, afaik, the NIT does not have any infrared emisor |
| 15:42.26 | GeneralAntilles | komputiko, there are a ton of people that use it just fine. |
| 15:42.36 | komputiko | i know GeneralAntilles |
| 15:42.43 | komputiko | but i can't get it |
| 15:42.46 | komputiko | :( |
| 15:42.47 | gribouille | I already have an ATI remote wonder II, but it's quite basic |
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| 15:43.06 | GeneralAntilles | gribouille, vnc, remote desktop, ssh, mpd/mmpc, mythtv remote and some sort of web interface are all options. |
| 15:43.11 | gribouille | jldiaz, you can use the wifi network |
| 15:43.13 | qwerty12 | komputiko, if you could set the language to English on your IT and post up the exact wording of the error, I could find which command is causing the problem. |
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| 15:43.22 | GeneralAntilles | Remote Wonder isn't basic! :D |
| 15:43.27 | GeneralAntilles | It's just time consuming to set up. ;) |
| 15:43.32 | amr | just got back to using my tablet again |
| 15:43.32 | Navi | GeneralAntilles, I use it all the time |
| 15:43.35 | gribouille | GeneralAntilles, do you have one ? |
| 15:43.38 | Navi | er |
| 15:43.38 | GeneralAntilles | Yessir |
| 15:43.40 | pupnik | i wonder if anyone has made a bluetooth infrared adaptor that you can set in front of a tv |
| 15:43.48 | amr | any known issues with installing canola2 on a 770? |
| 15:43.48 | Navi | gribouille, I use my N800 as a media remote all the time |
| 15:43.52 | RST38h | somebody did |
| 15:43.55 | jldiaz | pupnik I was thinking the same |
| 15:43.55 | RST38h | a moment |
| 15:44.06 | gribouille | GeneralAntilles, what apps do you control with it ? |
| 15:44.11 | amr | Navi: the same Navi from Quakenet? |
| 15:44.12 | qwerty12 | GeneralAntilles, Is there a section on wikipedia where you can post suggested edits and get approval by someone else before they make it into the final article? |
| 15:44.17 | gribouille | Navi, how do you do that ? |
| 15:44.27 | Navi | MMPC, mythtv |
| 15:44.32 | GeneralAntilles | Not that I know of, qwerty12. |
| 15:44.37 | RST38h | pupnik: http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/28/ir2bt-infrared-to-bluetooth-converter-now-on-sale-ps3-owners-re/ |
| 15:45.05 | qwerty12 | GeneralAntilles, Ah, thanks. I'll make edits that add stuff rather than edit existing stuff as you can easily remove it then. |
| 15:45.23 | GeneralAntilles | qwerty12, it keeps a history of all edits |
| 15:45.34 | GeneralAntilles | so if you just say what you did in each edit, it's easy to revert. |
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| 15:46.07 | GeneralAntilles | The maemo articles are pretty much shit right now, so you'd be hard pressed to do anything but make them better. :P |
| 15:46.17 | qwerty12 | Hehe |
| 15:46.23 | jldiaz | RST38h, that works the opposite way |
| 15:46.38 | pupnik | RST38h: interesting, but it's backwards of the functino i was th |
| 15:46.53 | Navi | RST38h, looks interesting |
| 15:47.02 | Navi | but yeah, backwards :( |
| 15:47.18 | jldiaz | Mmm... I have a Palm Tungsten T-3 |
| 15:47.23 | jldiaz | it does have bluetooth and IR |
| 15:47.30 | jldiaz | so it would be possible to .. hmmm |
| 15:47.58 | RST38h | ah |
| 15:48.51 | jldiaz | the idea is coming to my mind is to have the Palm in front of the TV, receiving the codes from a wiimote via BT, and sending IR commands to the TV |
| 15:49.05 | jldiaz | this would allow to use the wiimte as an universal IR remote |
| 15:49.22 | jldiaz | and you dont need to point it to the tv :-) |
| 15:49.39 | qwerty12 | W00T, 7 tries later and I have a wikipedia account >.< |
| 15:50.06 | komputiko | qwerty12: dd: writting /media/mmc2/local.img Input/output error |
| 15:50.14 | komputiko | qwerty12: dd: writting /media/mmc2/swap.img Input/output error |
| 15:50.35 | komputiko | qwerty12: tar removing leading '/' from member names |
| 15:50.40 | komputiko | gzip: short write |
| 15:50.41 | qwerty12 | komputiko, that means that your card is corrupting. happens to me all the time. Are you using kernel for faster mmc speed? |
| 15:50.49 | komputiko | mmm nop |
| 15:50.51 | komputiko | original kernel |
| 15:50.53 | komputiko | from nokia |
| 15:51.07 | komputiko | i flashed 2 hours ago |
| 15:51.59 | qwerty12 | Hmm, that's odd then. Do you have another card you can try it on? |
| 15:51.59 | komputiko | yes, and i get the same! |
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| 15:54.36 | gribouille | maemo mapper has some problems adding about 35,000 POIs |
| 15:54.55 | qwerty12 | komputiko, do you have linux on computer? |
| 15:55.04 | komputiko | yes |
| 15:55.39 | qwerty12 | Mount the mmc card by usb and in a terminal, cd to the mount point. Run this and see what it says- dd if=/dev/zero of=local.img bs=512 count=2621440 |
| 15:56.12 | qwerty12 | if it works, tell me and give me 2-5 mins. |
| 15:56.57 | komputiko | ok |
| 15:56.58 | komputiko | wait |
| 15:57.04 | komputiko | because i remove the local.img file |
| 15:57.09 | komputiko | i'll create it again |
| 15:57.13 | qwerty12 | you don't need it :) |
| 15:57.17 | komputiko | ah ok |
| 15:57.18 | qwerty12 | that dd command will recreate it |
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| 15:58.02 | qwerty12 | Man, I hope I haven't damaged my N800 because I've been messing around with the memory cards a lot. Here's to hoping it's just a crap 1gb I have. |
| 15:58.38 | komputiko | hum |
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| 15:58.56 | komputiko | i don't know if i play with the sd cards a lot... |
| 15:58.59 | komputiko | maybe |
| 15:59.02 | komputiko | :( |
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| 16:00.10 | komputiko | what's the use of "dd"? |
| 16:00.11 | Andy80 | hi all |
| 16:00.24 | Andy80 | does anyne of you use Pluthon plugin for Eclipse? |
| 16:00.29 | qwerty12 | komputiko, it makes the local.img which KDE will be stored in |
| 16:00.36 | komputiko | ah ok |
| 16:00.48 | komputiko | but 2621440 is the length? |
| 16:00.58 | komputiko | because now i am using a 2gb card |
| 16:01.07 | gribouille | does anyone know how I can change the color/image of the POIs of one category ? |
| 16:01.12 | qwerty12 | Yep, taken from the local file itself. |
| 16:01.33 | komputiko | then i think the file is so big |
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| 16:04.28 | komputiko | 1gb... |
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| 16:06.38 | komputiko | qwerty12: edu@edu-portatil:/media/disk-2$ dd if=/dev/zero of=local.img bs=512 count=2621440 2621440+0 registros de entrada 2621440+0 registros de salida 1342177280 bytes (1,3 GB) copiados, 534,201 s, 2,5 MB/s |
| 16:06.41 | komputiko | it's done |
| 16:06.48 | qwerty12 | It worked fine? |
| 16:06.51 | komputiko | yes |
| 16:07.01 | komputiko | now i think i must do the same with swap.img |
| 16:07.10 | qwerty12 | ok, wait a sec |
| 16:07.12 | komputiko | ok |
| 16:07.28 | qwerty12 | dd if=/dev/zero of=swap.img bs=512 count=262144 |
| 16:07.41 | qwerty12 | oh yeah, are you using mmc1 or mmc2? |
| 16:07.46 | komputiko | mmc2 |
| 16:07.48 | komputiko | internal |
| 16:07.54 | qwerty12 | Ok, I'll edit the mmc2 file. |
| 16:08.01 | komputiko | ok |
| 16:08.04 | komputiko | then: dd if=/dev/zero of=swap.img bs=512 count=262144 |
| 16:08.27 | qwerty12 | Make the swap.img first before my edited mmc2 |
| 16:08.36 | komputiko | ok |
| 16:09.24 | komputiko | ooook |
| 16:09.26 | komputiko | it's done |
| 16:09.38 | komputiko | 262144+0 registros de entrada 262144+0 registros de salida 134217728 bytes (134 MB) copiados, 39,815 s, 3,4 MB/s |
| 16:09.44 | qwerty12 | You have both swap.img and local.img in root of mmc? |
| 16:09.49 | komputiko | yes |
| 16:10.02 | qwerty12 | Ok, wait a sec |
| 16:10.07 | komputiko | ok |
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| 16:11.17 | pupnik | qwerty12: did you ever get the module loaded? |
| 16:11.33 | qwerty12 | pupnik, yes, dmesg showed fine output. I used the provided script |
| 16:12.01 | pupnik | oh i didn't see the script |
| 16:12.03 | pupnik | insmod: cannot insert 'r8187.ko': Unknown symbol in module (-1): No such file or directory |
| 16:12.38 | qwerty12 | What? I compiled it against standard kernel source but I'm running custom kernel on my N800 |
| 16:12.42 | qwerty12 | Damn |
| 16:12.53 | qwerty12 | what does dmesg say? |
| 16:13.00 | pupnik | hmm i see wlan0up |
| 16:13.41 | pupnik | ok wlan0up does load modules |
| 16:14.04 | qwerty12 | dmesg should say the rtl module is loaded, if you want to check. |
| 16:14.10 | qwerty12 | komputiko, http://www.mediafire.com/?giy94vbnp0y |
| 16:14.16 | pupnik | yeah works! |
| 16:14.24 | qwerty12 | komputiko, Use this local-mmc2 deb |
| 16:14.29 | qwerty12 | pupnik, Great :) |
| 16:14.31 | komputiko | ok |
| 16:14.39 | komputiko | im going |
| 16:14.41 | pupnik | just lots of errors, unknown symbols |
| 16:14.49 | pupnik | but it is loading |
| 16:15.03 | komputiko | just put it on the mmc and install, it is? |
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| 16:15.08 | qwerty12 | pupnik, does dmesg say anything about case_copy? |
| 16:15.13 | qwerty12 | komputiko, yes |
| 16:15.33 | pupnik | no |
| 16:15.59 | qwerty12 | That's odd then, thats the only extra symbol I have in this kernel I have. |
| 16:16.49 | qwerty12 | But those modules were compiled against the standard nokia provided kernel. Only difference is that I'm running a custom kernel on my N800. |
| 16:17.16 | pupnik | i have a slightly different kernel too :/ |
| 16:17.19 | pupnik | oprofile krnl |
| 16:18.09 | qwerty12 | Not sure on it then, is the source available for one? (I'm a kernel n00b :P), I could compile those modules against one of those then. |
| 16:18.36 | komputiko | qwerty12: impossible to install |
| 16:18.44 | qwerty12 | Why :(? |
| 16:18.51 | komputiko | it says... |
| 16:19.00 | pupnik | ah very nice the symbol errors are gone - most of them |
| 16:19.22 | komputiko | it says '/media/mmc2/loca.img is not a special blocks device' |
| 16:19.54 | qwerty12 | Not sure then. |
| 16:20.11 | komputiko | it says '/media/mmc2/local.img is not a block special device' |
| 16:20.15 | komputiko | i write you bad |
| 16:20.24 | komputiko | arf :( |
| 16:20.29 | pupnik | http://pastebin.ca/989671 do you get this qwerty12 ? |
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| 16:21.20 | qwerty12 | pupnik, no |
| 16:21.26 | komputiko | errors encountered while processing: local-mmc2 |
| 16:21.40 | qwerty12 | komputiko, I'm not sure then, sorry. |
| 16:21.45 | komputiko | subprocess post-installation script retuned error exit status 1 |
| 16:21.46 | komputiko | ok |
| 16:21.49 | komputiko | ty anyway |
| 16:21.51 | komputiko | :-\ |
| 16:22.03 | qwerty12 | pupnik, wait a second. I'll post my dmesg output. |
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| 16:22.49 | komputiko | qwerty12: i need to install it as root? |
| 16:23.15 | qwerty12 | komputiko, application manager installs stuff as root anyway. |
| 16:23.37 | komputiko | ah |
| 16:23.40 | komputiko | ok then |
| 16:23.49 | komputiko | kde 10, komputiko 0 |
| 16:23.51 | komputiko | :( |
| 16:23.54 | Ziegle1 | Wher can i find some documentat on the 2008 directory structure |
| 16:24.33 | GeneralAntilles | POSIX |
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| 16:24.58 | Ziegle1 | I open up the gui file manager and see folders like 'audio clips' |
| 16:25.12 | Ziegle1 | Where is that really? |
| 16:25.32 | GeneralAntilles | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.45 | Ziegle1 | Ahhh.. Hiden folder |
| 16:25.55 | Ziegle1 | Thanks |
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| 16:27.11 | qwerty12 | pupnik, http://pastebin.ca/989680 - my output. I assume you have linux (due to all your ports :P), run the flasher command to boot a kernel (not flash) and see what your output is then. |
| 16:27.53 | qwerty12 | ^ boot a standard kernel |
| 16:28.12 | pupnik | yup ok |
| 16:28.29 | pupnik | does the tgz have your tweaks? |
| 16:28.41 | pupnik | i assume you changed order of the declaractions to make it C90 compatible? |
| 16:28.47 | pupnik | *source tweaks |
| 16:28.56 | qwerty12 | I just applied a patch which made it .24 compatible and it compiled. |
| 16:29.09 | pupnik | ok |
| 16:29.17 | qwerty12 | I've left the patches in there (one of them didn't apply) |
| 16:30.00 | qwerty12 | In sbox armel target. symlink /lib/modules/`2.6.22-14-generic`/build/ to your kernel source. |
| 16:30.22 | qwerty12 | I also modified the make file to remove the EHDC dependency. |
| 16:30.54 | qwerty12 | s/lib/modules/`2.6.22-14-generic`/build/lib/modules/`uname -r`/build |
| 16:31.12 | qwerty12 | http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=r8187 - the page with the original source and the patch. |
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| 16:33.25 | pupnik | good deal... excited for next week :) |
| 16:33.58 | qwerty12 | pupnik, Hehe, is that when it's arriving? :). I'm not, I'm back in school and I haven't done any of the load of homework I got :p |
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| 16:36.15 | pupnik | on the pc, the alfa with the 9db antenna identified several networks i've never seen before |
| 16:37.02 | qwerty12 | Wow, if it works, I'd be interested in getting one to hackzor my school's crappy wep network. Then I can go on mytube in class. |
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| 16:38.15 | pupnik | it should be noted that the tx power of the card needs to be lowered with that antenna to stay within legal limits |
| 16:38.34 | pupnik | in .de |
| 16:39.56 | qwerty12 | Brilliant, if it has illegal tendencies, that's perfect for me :P. I'll buy one to replace this propriarty (spelling) TI crap wifi card I have. BSOD's my windows and kernelpanics my Linux (ndiswrapper :() |
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| 16:43.16 | mib_k4wceynm | test |
| 16:43.26 | komputiko | qwerty12: i found the solution! |
| 16:43.35 | mib_k4wceynm | Oh my god this works. |
| 16:43.52 | johnx | webirc on your tablet? |
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| 16:44.57 | qwerty12 | komputiko, Great! |
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| 16:46.10 | komputiko | the problem is that only runs with english as language |
| 16:46.21 | komputiko | but now i can't install kde-3.5.8.deb |
| 16:46.38 | qwerty12 | komputiko, what is your error? |
| 16:47.00 | komputiko | the log only shows repository errors... mmmm |
| 16:47.01 | komputiko | wait |
| 16:47.07 | komputiko | i'll try again |
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| 16:48.45 | komputiko | qwerty12: bzip2:I/O or other error, bailing out. Posible reason follows |
| 16:48.53 | komputiko | bzip2: Input/outup error |
| 16:49.11 | komputiko | Input file=(stdin) , output file=(stdout) |
| 16:49.24 | qwerty12 | it goes back to the card issue then or something. i/o errors are read / write errors etc |
| 16:49.41 | komputiko | '/usr/bin/tar: Unexpeted EOF in archive' |
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| 16:50.42 | komputiko | uhum |
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| 16:57.39 | MangoFusion | man, i hate it when i make the mistake of trying to remove scratchbox by rm -rf |
| 16:57.43 | MangoFusion | *doh* |
| 16:57.54 | gribouille | I find the videos on youtube are quite jerky on my tablet |
| 16:58.18 | gribouille | is it the same on yours ? |
| 16:58.58 | MangoFusion | if you view them directly on youtube.com, sure |
| 16:59.25 | MangoFusion | i usually just use the youtube plugin in canola which is infinitely better |
| 17:00.13 | gribouille | what is canola ? |
| 17:00.26 | qwerty12 | <.< |
| 17:00.49 | qwerty12 | http://openbossa.indt.org.br/ |
| 17:02.55 | jldiaz | gribouille you can also download them with the script youtube-dl, and view them with mplayer |
| 17:03.13 | qwerty12 | jldiaz, mytube does that in a nice interface :) |
| 17:03.19 | gribouille | jldiaz, how can I get the script ? |
| 17:03.35 | jldiaz | qwerty12, you are right :-) |
| 17:03.56 | jldiaz | however, I use the script in my linux box, and then transfer the .swf to my NIT |
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| 17:10.50 | gribouille | what does mytube do ? |
| 17:15.23 | jldiaz | it uses youtube-dl and mplayer, through a nice gui |
| 17:15.44 | jldiaz | it allows for searches and downloads from youtube |
| 17:15.58 | jldiaz | and then uses mplayer to see the videos |
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| 17:19.28 | gribouille | all I get with canola is "Unable to reslvr url" |
| 17:19.38 | gribouille | but my connection is working |
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| 17:58.57 | komputiko | anyone knows why i get an input/output error with my SD cards |
| 17:58.59 | komputiko | -0 |
| 17:59.01 | komputiko | ? |
| 18:00.43 | Navi | Corrupted fs? |
| 18:03.05 | komputiko | i dont know |
| 18:03.06 | komputiko | i formated it many times |
| 18:03.10 | komputiko | and i tried other one |
| 18:03.13 | komputiko | and gets the same |
| 18:03.34 | komputiko | the error hangs when trying to install kde |
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| 18:05.42 | term-sig | read/write mode? |
| 18:06.18 | komputiko | reading dmesg i think that's the problem |
| 18:06.31 | komputiko | but i don't active the read only mode |
| 18:06.56 | komputiko | mmcb1k0: error 1 sending read/write command |
| 18:07.24 | komputiko | any ideas? |
| 18:07.27 | term-sig | ok can u open xterm and try write something on that card? |
| 18:07.42 | komputiko | something like create a file? |
| 18:07.42 | term-sig | u trying install kde as root or user? |
| 18:07.54 | term-sig | ype, try touch dupa |
| 18:07.57 | term-sig | ;) |
| 18:08.05 | komputiko | yes, i tam trying to install kde... |
| 18:08.11 | komputiko | i will try as root >_< |
| 18:09.55 | Italodance | hrw ????? still gone????? |
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| 18:21.33 | gribouille | the python package has been stripped off of all its files. where are they ? |
| 18:22.56 | komputiko | ok term-sig, he comes the bzip2: Input/Output error |
| 18:23.17 | komputiko | usr/bin/tar: unexècted EOF in archive |
| 18:23.22 | komputiko | :( |
| 18:26.22 | term-sig | komputiko: can u try tar zxvf that kde.tgz file ? |
| 18:26.36 | term-sig | maybe file is corrupted |
| 18:26.40 | komputiko | mmm |
| 18:26.52 | komputiko | i check the size of the file |
| 18:27.09 | komputiko | but i havent got the md5sum |
| 18:27.57 | komputiko | anyone have this file? KDE358.tar.bz2 |
| 18:29.17 | term-sig | komputiko: just try untar it on card.. |
| 18:29.25 | komputiko | yes term-sig |
| 18:29.26 | komputiko | but |
| 18:29.31 | kwan | Does anybody know if Maemo OS2008 might be upgraded with glib 2.14 or 2.16 soon? |
| 18:29.31 | komputiko | its about 300 mb |
| 18:29.35 | komputiko | i have not enough space xD |
| 18:29.45 | komputiko | i can try to decompress it on my laptop |
| 18:29.46 | komputiko | wait |
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| 18:30.52 | Tu13es | hmm |
| 18:31.02 | Tu13es | I gave my n800 to my gf because I wasn't using it much |
| 18:31.07 | Tu13es | so, she gave me her old n770 to me |
| 18:31.10 | Tu13es | what to do with it? |
| 18:31.23 | komputiko | install kde, like me |
| 18:31.26 | komputiko | if you can |
| 18:31.29 | komputiko | xD |
| 18:31.31 | Tu13es | heh |
| 18:31.33 | GeneralAntilles | Pretty much the same thing you'd do with the N800 |
| 18:31.36 | GeneralAntilles | Except slower. |
| 18:31.44 | Tu13es | I'm trying to figure out some use for it, maybe an alarm clock or something |
| 18:31.58 | GeneralAntilles | It's probably the greatest ebook reader on the planet. |
| 18:32.39 | Tu13es | I've got my iTouch for that :P |
| 18:32.56 | GeneralAntilles | iTouch is a pretty mediocre ebook reader. |
| 18:32.59 | GeneralAntilles | Doesn't have the dpi. |
| 18:33.00 | komputiko | term-sig: the file is well extracted |
| 18:33.11 | komputiko | :( |
| 18:33.17 | Tu13es | yeah, but I don't do a lot of ebook reading |
| 18:33.58 | term-sig | komputiko: can u try use dpkg instead application manager? |
| 18:33.59 | GeneralAntilles | Media remote? Couch browser? GPS? |
| 18:34.13 | komputiko | yeah, i tried it, with the same result |
| 18:34.56 | term-sig | it's only one thing, they should sell it with some small edge/hdspa modem. |
| 18:35.22 | term-sig | komputiko: dunno what it can be wrong.. |
| 18:35.32 | komputiko | :( |
| 18:35.35 | komputiko | ok, ty anyway |
| 18:35.36 | Tu13es | mm, media remote might be good |
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| 18:36.19 | term-sig | komputiko: try download any other deb and install it in this same way.. |
| 18:37.25 | komputiko | i tried that many times :( |
| 18:37.36 | flo_lap | re |
| 18:37.37 | komputiko | i think that something is brong on my n800 |
| 18:37.57 | komputiko | *wront |
| 18:38.00 | komputiko | *wrong |
| 18:38.24 | term-sig | then backup al info and reflash system. |
| 18:38.37 | term-sig | i had similar problem with kismet |
| 18:38.52 | komputiko | hehe yes, i flashed 4 times today |
| 18:39.08 | term-sig | and it's still this same problem ? |
| 18:39.15 | komputiko | yes, the same |
| 18:39.20 | komputiko | input output error |
| 18:39.36 | term-sig | n810 or n800 ? |
| 18:39.38 | gribouille | has anyone already done X forwarding from another computer ? I tried ssh -X, but with no result |
| 18:39.42 | komputiko | n80 |
| 18:39.44 | komputiko | n800 |
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| 18:40.01 | term-sig | u try with diff card? maybe u card it's fucked? |
| 18:40.12 | komputiko | with 2 cards |
| 18:40.18 | thiagoss | Does anyone know where is this function: "hildon_g_scanner_cache_open" |
| 18:41.07 | term-sig | try diff ones, because for me it's looks like problems with cards. |
| 18:41.17 | term-sig | ok, time for beer ;) |
| 18:41.25 | komputiko | hehe |
| 18:41.25 | komputiko | ty term-sig |
| 18:42.03 | GeneralAntilles | Oh, that's sweet. |
| 18:42.11 | GeneralAntilles | Anybody see the USB VGA adaptor post on maemo-users? |
| 18:42.34 | Jaffa | Yeah, gcobb's looking for a hand |
| 18:43.02 | GeneralAntilles | That would make for a seriously badass presentation device. |
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| 18:48.33 | komputiko | anyone knows if there is a way to decompres a file.tar.bz2 into a .img |
| 18:48.54 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 18:49.02 | komputiko | mmm how? |
| 18:49.29 | komputiko | the fact is if i try to do it on my n800 i get's allways a i/o error 2 at minutes |
| 18:49.31 | KotCzarny | 1/ make .img, 2/ create fs on it, 3/ mount it via loopback, 4/ uncompress archive to it |
| 18:49.40 | komputiko | so |
| 18:49.46 | komputiko | i can do that on my laptop? |
| 18:49.48 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 18:49.53 | komputiko | and then pass the img |
| 18:49.55 | komputiko | ok |
| 18:50.03 | KotCzarny | just mount the card in laptop |
| 18:50.04 | komputiko | ty |
| 18:50.11 | KotCzarny | (via usb or other reader) |
| 18:50.17 | komputiko | yes |
| 18:50.21 | komputiko | and now? |
| 18:50.24 | komputiko | mount... |
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| 18:52.45 | komputiko | how can i mount a .img? |
| 18:52.56 | KotCzarny | mount -o loop file.img somedir |
| 18:53.03 | komputiko | ok |
| 18:53.17 | KotCzarny | don't forget to umount it later |
| 18:53.21 | komputiko | ok |
| 18:53.21 | KotCzarny | with umount -d |
| 18:53.24 | komputiko | ty |
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| 18:54.48 | komputiko | arf arf |
| 18:54.50 | komputiko | and now |
| 18:54.56 | komputiko | how can i decompess a .tar.bz2 file? |
| 18:55.06 | komputiko | tar xvzf ? |
| 18:55.07 | KotCzarny | tar -xjvf |
| 18:55.07 | Navi | tar xvjf |
| 18:55.11 | Navi | no hyphen |
| 18:55.13 | komputiko | ok |
| 18:55.13 | komputiko | ty |
| 18:55.35 | KotCzarny | navi: gnutar allows hyphen |
| 18:55.37 | KotCzarny | see man page |
| 18:55.51 | Navi | allows it, but really useless :P |
| 18:56.12 | KotCzarny | no, leaving hyphen out it probably against POSIX |
| 18:56.53 | KotCzarny | what if you had a file named xvjf ? |
| 18:57.19 | Navi | It's an extra character to type with no gains except for very specific and unlikely situations |
| 18:57.33 | KotCzarny | you have never tried writing a program then |
| 18:57.35 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:57.54 | KotCzarny | and no, it's not very specific situation |
| 18:58.02 | komputiko | mmm i get file not found |
| 18:58.13 | komputiko | but i mounted ok the .img |
| 18:58.14 | Navi | I'm not talking from the development side, I'm talking from the user extraction side |
| 18:58.20 | komputiko | because i am seeing the content |
| 18:58.27 | KotCzarny | navi: users are idiots, usually |
| 18:58.37 | Navi | I'm haven't said it shouldn't be included, just that it's unneeded most of the time |
| 18:58.41 | KotCzarny | programmers sometimes too |
| 18:58.42 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:58.42 | komputiko | thanks for that |
| 18:58.43 | komputiko | xD |
| 18:59.04 | KotCzarny | navi: it's inconsistent |
| 19:02.12 | KotCzarny | firefox 2.0.0.14 |
| 19:02.13 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:03.59 | komputiko | anyones have the kde.tar.bz2 file? and can tell me the md5sum :P |
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| 19:10.45 | komputiko | how can i see the source of a .deb? |
| 19:10.49 | komputiko | or i can't |
| 19:10.56 | komputiko | oh i think i cant xD |
| 19:10.58 | KotCzarny | apt-get source file.deb |
| 19:11.03 | komputiko | ah okkkk |
| 19:11.07 | komputiko | but |
| 19:11.15 | komputiko | i don't get it with aptget |
| 19:11.19 | komputiko | i downloaded it |
| 19:11.22 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:12.00 | komputiko | i downloaded it of a website |
| 19:12.02 | komputiko | the .deb |
| 19:12.06 | komputiko | ._. |
| 19:12.14 | KotCzarny | then look for the sources on that site |
| 19:12.18 | KotCzarny | or just on debian.org |
| 19:12.19 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:12.21 | komputiko | the fact is |
| 19:12.32 | komputiko | it is kde-3.5.8.deb xD! |
| 19:12.45 | KotCzarny | you don't want to see the source of that.. |
| 19:12.47 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:12.51 | komputiko | yes |
| 19:12.51 | komputiko | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?s=f49d00f131ff278955b9422fb763305d&t=14680&highlight=kde |
| 19:12.54 | komputiko | because |
| 19:13.05 | KotCzarny | it's big |
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| 19:13.07 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:13.13 | komputiko | nono, but is not kde |
| 19:13.30 | komputiko | its the .deb that copy kde.tar.bz2 into a local.img |
| 19:13.33 | komputiko | but i like to see |
| 19:13.42 | KotCzarny | ar x kde-3.5.8.deb |
| 19:13.44 | komputiko | if that .deb makes something more |
| 19:13.57 | komputiko | ar x? |
| 19:14.07 | pupnik | archive extract |
| 19:14.12 | komputiko | ah |
| 19:14.12 | komputiko | ok |
| 19:14.15 | komputiko | ty then |
| 19:14.17 | komputiko | ;) |
| 19:14.23 | KotCzarny | hi pupnik |
| 19:14.28 | pupnik | ar is a command |
| 19:14.28 | pupnik | hi |
| 19:14.39 | KotCzarny | pirrrate command |
| 19:14.41 | KotCzarny | ar arr |
| 19:14.48 | komputiko | haha |
| 19:14.48 | pupnik | >_< |
| 19:20.57 | komputiko | i dont get any result with ar x kde.deb |
| 19:21.31 | komputiko | :-\ |
| 19:21.34 | komputiko | any idea? |
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| 19:21.45 | KotCzarny | ls -l |
| 19:21.47 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:21.51 | komputiko | yes xD |
| 19:21.57 | komputiko | i am at the correct directory |
| 19:22.04 | KotCzarny | it won't show any output |
| 19:22.10 | KotCzarny | it simply unpacks the .deb |
| 19:22.17 | komputiko | ahhh ok |
| 19:22.39 | komputiko | :P |
| 19:22.49 | pupnik | man, the icanhascheezburger.com dudes were able to quit their day job |
| 19:23.01 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 19:23.19 | KotCzarny | link? |
| 19:23.38 | pupnik | dunno, just read an article about it in the paper a few months back |
| 19:23.54 | KotCzarny | lol@random thoughts |
| 19:29.23 | komputiko | ok, kde wins, it's impossible for me |
| 19:29.25 | komputiko | install it |
| 19:29.27 | komputiko | >_< |
| 19:29.32 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:30.21 | KotCzarny | maybe your card just don't like fast writes |
| 19:30.32 | komputiko | yes, i think that |
| 19:30.38 | komputiko | but i tried with a class 6 card |
| 19:30.43 | KotCzarny | i assume both are the same brand? |
| 19:30.44 | komputiko | and same problem |
| 19:31.03 | komputiko | yes |
| 19:31.05 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 19:31.16 | komputiko | but i think i am not a lucky men |
| 19:31.22 | komputiko | *man |
| 19:32.08 | KotCzarny | you can try custom kernel |
| 19:32.23 | komputiko | what i'll get? |
| 19:32.34 | KotCzarny | maybe faster speeds |
| 19:32.46 | KotCzarny | maybe fewer/more problems |
| 19:32.56 | komputiko | where can i found it? :P |
| 19:33.03 | KotCzarny | ask qwerty12 |
| 19:33.12 | komputiko | ok |
| 19:33.15 | KotCzarny | he is the kamikaze modder here |
| 19:33.16 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:33.22 | komputiko | jjajaja |
| 19:33.25 | komputiko | yes i know |
| 19:37.24 | pupnik | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/03/27/funny-pictures-from-yonder-window-breaks/ heh, 'shakespeare ape' |
| 19:37.42 | pupnik | tis the east, and Juliet is the sun! |
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| 19:43.19 | GeneralAntilles | Ha |
| 19:43.52 | pupnik | KotCzarny http://mine.icanhascheezburger.com/view.aspx?ciid=998230 |
| 19:44.34 | KotCzarny | it's fur is not black |
| 19:45.26 | KotCzarny | nice green eyes though |
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| 19:46.45 | KotCzarny | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_accidents_and_incidents#Near-fatalities |
| 19:46.46 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 19:57.14 | RST38h | Kot: How about this one: http://www.cyberussr.com/rus/gal/begemot3.jpg ? |
| 19:57.46 | KotCzarny | better, but i prefer this one: http://localhost/KotCzarny.jpg |
| 19:57.49 | KotCzarny | erm |
| 19:57.58 | KotCzarny | http://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/KotCzarny.jpg |
| 19:57.59 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:58.42 | RST38h | looks severely underfed |
| 19:58.54 | KotCzarny | just an illusion |
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| 20:05.10 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.31 | pupnik | hah wow |
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| 20:24.43 | lcuk | hum |
| 20:25.26 | lcuk | broked his network |
| 20:25.38 | KotCzarny | you're still there |
| 20:25.38 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:25.54 | lcuk | this machine is, but nothing inside my lan or vmware is |
| 20:26.04 | KotCzarny | heh |
| 20:26.24 | KotCzarny | tear everything down, and restart from scratch :) |
| 20:26.39 | komputiko | ok, now when installing kde again, i get a crash: rm:cannot remove /etc/nss_mdns.conf: no such file or directory |
| 20:26.40 | KotCzarny | or just install some router :) |
| 20:26.45 | komputiko | :( |
| 20:26.48 | komputiko | any idea? |
| 20:27.09 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 20:27.11 | lcuk | komputiko, you dont need to remove a single file if its not there :D |
| 20:27.25 | komputiko | yes, that is what i think |
| 20:27.30 | komputiko | but |
| 20:27.32 | KotCzarny | and script was written without error handling :) |
| 20:27.34 | lcuk | is this an install script? |
| 20:27.36 | komputiko | i can't install kde !_! |
| 20:27.41 | komputiko | it's a .deb |
| 20:27.54 | KotCzarny | someone should prepare kde image of the running os |
| 20:27.56 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:28.01 | lcuk | shouldnt really be typing now, ive had a massive migraine all day |
| 20:28.01 | komputiko | yes, i think so |
| 20:28.16 | KotCzarny | had a migraine but it's ok now |
| 20:28.29 | lcuk | made purple sick :S |
| 20:28.42 | KotCzarny | purple? |
| 20:28.45 | lcuk | vimto |
| 20:28.54 | KotCzarny | vimto? |
| 20:28.56 | KotCzarny | O.o |
| 20:29.04 | KotCzarny | apparently lost his verbal skills |
| 20:29.37 | lcuk | whatever wanted out of me was apparantly below what i drunk before bed :S |
| 20:29.52 | lcuk | unwinds his dietary stack |
| 20:30.00 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:30.23 | Grackle | at least you're not doing a dietary stack swap |
| 20:30.26 | komputiko | anyone that succesfully installed kde on a n800, please help me!!! |
| 20:30.30 | lcuk | if this damned network hadnt broked i could have done some testing of the turbo thing |
| 20:30.46 | KotCzarny | lcuk: what's the problem ? |
| 20:30.59 | lcuk | komputiko, i dont think many have done, may be best looking on ITT and see whaty people posted there |
| 20:31.13 | komputiko | yes, i search for hours |
| 20:31.15 | komputiko | and nothing |
| 20:31.16 | komputiko | :-\ |
| 20:31.23 | komputiko | something that appears simple |
| 20:31.30 | komputiko | is impossible on my n800 |
| 20:31.35 | lcuk | nothing, i just incorporated app_turbo_...() functions and stuff before realising that the changes i made earlier to the network meant i couldnt test anything |
| 20:31.40 | lcuk | and then just went to bed |
| 20:32.14 | KotCzarny | i was asking about network |
| 20:32.15 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:32.30 | pupnik | komputiko: could you ar x the .deb file that seems broken? |
| 20:33.07 | komputiko | not, is perfect |
| 20:33.11 | komputiko | i test it |
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| 20:33.27 | komputiko | i do that before |
| 20:33.27 | lcuk | i changed ad-hoc network from unsecured to using wep. nothing else changed, all fixed ips should remain valid and dns etc all pointing at this machine but i just cant see the tablet any more on the net |
| 20:33.37 | lcuk | 810 should respond to ping shouldnt it? |
| 20:33.40 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 20:33.42 | pupnik | yes |
| 20:33.47 | lcuk | thought so, its just gone |
| 20:33.55 | KotCzarny | but tablet can ping others? |
| 20:34.12 | lcuk | tablet can ping this machine 10.0.0.1 but nothing else |
| 20:34.21 | pupnik | komputiko: i don't have kde on tablet, and i don't understand what is not working for you |
| 20:34.26 | lcuk | my mistake - it can get dns and outside world stuff |
| 20:34.26 | KotCzarny | 0.1 is the router or pc? |
| 20:34.38 | lcuk | this pc, there is no router up here |
| 20:34.44 | komputiko | input/output errors! |
| 20:34.49 | komputiko | from my sd card |
| 20:35.29 | pupnik | that's possible. there is also a file download corruption bug in older kernels |
| 20:35.49 | komputiko | i flashed with the newest os 2008 kernel |
| 20:36.00 | KotCzarny | lcuk: can't think of anything |
| 20:36.15 | KotCzarny | try hostap ? |
| 20:36.20 | lcuk | ill start from scratch again - i seem to recall having similar issues at the start |
| 20:37.08 | KotCzarny | just get wrt54g :> |
| 20:37.27 | lcuk | on a side note, ive managed to get the laptop fan working and tested a few things, battery lasts 2 hours unplugged and wifi does work :) |
| 20:37.43 | KotCzarny | (but keep away from a version with less than 4mb of flash) |
| 20:37.44 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:37.55 | KotCzarny | 2h? huhu |
| 20:38.25 | lcuk | 2hours for a 4 year old laptop is quite reasonable |
| 20:38.31 | KotCzarny | ah, yes |
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| 20:38.44 | KotCzarny | i have thought it was new :) |
| 20:38.44 | lcuk | its enough to be usable |
| 20:39.16 | lcuk | my missus gave me the "if i spend hundreds of pounds on shoes you would freak" lecture and i found an alternative to buying a new laptop.. |
| 20:39.24 | KotCzarny | :> |
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| 20:39.58 | lcuk | besides, im glad i did - the day after i decided against getting an eee the new ones were released |
| 20:40.08 | lcuk | announced^ |
| 20:40.08 | KotCzarny | yes, old thinkpads go pretty cheap off-lease |
| 20:40.09 | pupnik | old laptops are fine for me too |
| 20:40.39 | MangoFusion | there's nothing like a nice shiny new laptop straight out of the packaging though, imo |
| 20:40.48 | KotCzarny | heh |
| 20:40.55 | lcuk | this one is for me - its got a pair of horizontal dead pixel lines, but im not gonna dive inside and check the wiring |
| 20:41.13 | KotCzarny | paying 100%-200% more for a carton package and a piece of plastic foil isn't wise |
| 20:41.15 | KotCzarny | i think |
| 20:41.15 | pupnik | what model? |
| 20:41.17 | lcuk | MangoFusion, i would gladly take a new laptop, ill PM you my address |
| 20:41.41 | lcuk | http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptops/Toshiba6100/Toshiba_Satellite_Pro6100_dismantle_1.htm |
| 20:41.46 | lcuk | toshiba sat pro 6100 |
| 20:42.04 | lcuk | and just look at the disassembly, it would make obi-wan-laptopi scared |
| 20:42.09 | KotCzarny | at least it has trackpoint |
| 20:42.10 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:42.15 | lcuk | no it doesnt |
| 20:42.26 | KotCzarny | from pics it has |
| 20:42.33 | KotCzarny | http://www.irisvista.com/tech/laptops/Toshiba6100/disassembly/big/Toshiba-Satellite-6100-dismantle-07.jpg |
| 20:42.37 | MangoFusion | twist the screen around |
| 20:42.39 | MangoFusion | add a touch pad |
| 20:42.41 | MangoFusion | and hey presto |
| 20:42.43 | lcuk | yes technically it has a nobble, but its as useful as a chocolate fireguard |
| 20:42.44 | MangoFusion | the n900 |
| 20:42.53 | KotCzarny | ah, no driver? |
| 20:43.15 | lcuk | hmm, doubt it, the buttons work |
| 20:43.19 | lcuk | but the nipple is dead |
| 20:43.26 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 20:43.32 | KotCzarny | i believe it should work |
| 20:43.35 | lcuk | its not a big deal i hate them anyway |
| 20:43.43 | lcuk | yer it worked on the other one i tested |
| 20:43.50 | KotCzarny | unless it's dead on the hw level |
| 20:43.59 | lcuk | but i took the one which it wouldnt matter if i reformatted it or broke it |
| 20:44.07 | lcuk | there were 2 identical ones |
| 20:44.09 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:44.18 | KotCzarny | i like trackpoints |
| 20:44.27 | KotCzarny | the don't distract my typing |
| 20:44.34 | KotCzarny | if i need to move a window etc. |
| 20:44.47 | lcuk | im not bothered - i just need something so when im in germany if something crops up i can code on the go |
| 20:45.35 | KotCzarny | don't forget to remove 'designed for windows' stickers |
| 20:45.37 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:45.38 | lcuk | i would prefer to get proper full gcc working but i doubt in the time im there i can get reliable dev work done in time |
| 20:45.56 | lcuk | look on the guide i posted, there are about 700 stickers underneath |
| 20:45.58 | KotCzarny | lcuk: just give me root access |
| 20:46.09 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:46.11 | lcuk | to what? the 810 or the lap |
| 20:46.22 | KotCzarny | to the place where you need gcc |
| 20:47.36 | SamuelDr | I wonder, has there already been someone who attempted to "port" the tango icon set to chinook? |
| 20:47.39 | kwan | Can anybody get latest glib and gtk integrated into maemo? with hildon patches? |
| 20:47.51 | kwan | or is there anyway to find hildon patches for latest glib or gtk? |
| 20:48.30 | lcuk | right, gonna try and get networking running |
| 20:48.52 | lcuk | back later chaps :) |
| 20:48.57 | KotCzarny | go go |
| 20:48.58 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 21:05.16 | unixSnob | I downloaded the maemo mapper maps manually. I recall some files had to be renamed, but now I can't find the site that had the instructions |
| 21:06.11 | KotCzarny | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB9SRm2c_LA |
| 21:06.12 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 21:08.45 | GeneralAntilles | unixSnob, why manually? |
| 21:08.52 | GeneralAntilles | 2.x has them in a database |
| 21:09.03 | GeneralAntilles | So you can't really download maps without using Maemo Mapper. |
| 21:09.47 | KotCzarny | not true |
| 21:09.58 | KotCzarny | there is mapdownloader i think |
| 21:10.02 | KotCzarny | whatever it does |
| 21:10.03 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 21:10.04 | unixSnob | Maemo mapper is fragile.. if a connection goes bad, the whole partial download must start over |
| 21:10.38 | unixSnob | So I found a blog a few days ago pointing out where I could download them from manually.. wget is robust.. handled it well over a poor connection |
| 21:10.58 | unixSnob | but I can't find that blog again |
| 21:11.18 | GeneralAntilles | I say again, it wont work with 2.x |
| 21:11.38 | GeneralAntilles | 2.x should continue from wherever it left off, anyway. |
| 21:12.40 | unixSnob | well it starts over for some reason |
| 21:12.53 | unixSnob | anyway, i gotta run.. i'll mess w/ it later |
| 21:18.21 | KotCzarny | http://it.slashdot.org/it/08/04/19/1149219.shtml |
| 21:18.22 | KotCzarny | hehe |
| 21:19.36 | RST38h | beating on a dead horse. |
| 21:21.59 | fysa | personal menu is so nice. |
| 21:22.07 | fysa | so is the new adv-backlight. |
| 21:22.14 | KotCzarny | new? |
| 21:22.18 | KotCzarny | what's new? |
| 21:22.23 | fysa | newer |
| 21:22.27 | fysa | with volume control |
| 21:22.44 | KotCzarny | it had it already |
| 21:22.50 | fysa | I was using an old old version ;) |
| 21:22.57 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 21:22.58 | KotCzarny | ok |
| 21:23.40 | RST38h | personal menu would benefit from a shorter opening time |
| 21:23.52 | fysa | takes about 2 seconds here |
| 21:23.57 | KotCzarny | does it? |
| 21:23.58 | KotCzarny | O.o |
| 21:24.03 | KotCzarny | mine opens quite fast |
| 21:24.08 | fysa | maybe a bit less? |
| 21:24.12 | GeneralAntilles | Seriously old version, fysa. |
| 21:24.27 | fysa | GeneralAntilles, haha, yeah, it didn't even have a border around the backlight control ;) |
| 21:24.33 | RST38h | It probably depends on the number of items |
| 21:24.33 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 21:24.49 | KotCzarny | personal menu speed for me is the same as regular menu and web menu |
| 21:24.59 | KotCzarny | ~15 icons in mine |
| 21:25.00 | RST38h | it does take 1-2 seconds for me |
| 21:25.17 | RST38h | but I have 30+ icons |
| 21:25.20 | fysa | regular menu pops up preetty quickly |
| 21:25.25 | fysa | almost instant in comparison |
| 21:25.40 | KotCzarny | icons count can explain |
| 21:25.42 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 21:26.02 | KotCzarny | ok, shopping time, bbl |
| 21:26.11 | fysa | regular menu probably caches everything and personal menu loads icons on demand? |
| 21:26.38 | RST38h | fysa: Regular menu does never allow so many icons |
| 21:27.11 | RST38h | All right, time to hit the bed. |
| 21:27.14 | fysa | yeah, but if you reduce personal menu to the count of the regular menu, it still is much slower. not that I am complaining. :) |
| 21:27.33 | fysa | fewer touches and not having to re-organize after an update is good enough for me |
| 21:32.19 | fysa | do we have notify-send? |
| 21:32.27 | fysa | I see it in sardine. |
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| 21:42.13 | Tu13es | is there a way to format the n770 removable memory card? |
| 21:42.44 | Tu13es | ah, foun dit |
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| 22:04.04 | leo2007 | good evening |
| 22:04.54 | leo2007 | where to buy n810wimax? |
| 22:08.12 | Navi | It's not out yet, sorry |
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| 22:30.18 | fysa | have notify-send working. just need to figure out how xchat is using it, and why it's not working. |
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| 22:32.04 | bauglir | maemo |
| 22:32.20 | Navi | omeam |
| 22:32.29 | lcuk | mameo |
| 22:32.37 | bauglir | why |
| 22:32.38 | komputiko | anyone knows how install amarok on kde? |
| 22:32.47 | Navi | Depends on your distro |
| 22:32.51 | bauglir | why |
| 22:33.12 | Navi | Gah, now I'm wishing I had an N810 |
| 22:33.20 | bauglir | maemo |
| 22:33.21 | Navi | that keyboard would be useful with dwm :/ |
| 22:33.30 | komputiko | on kde n800 version |
| 22:33.37 | Navi | oh |
| 22:33.42 | Navi | Has someone built it? |
| 22:33.47 | lcuk | komputiko, so you got kde working then |
| 22:34.03 | komputiko | yeah!! |
| 22:34.03 | komputiko | :D |
| 22:34.11 | Navi | That monster wouldn't work too well |
| 22:34.23 | lcuk | cool, was there a howto somewhere that you followed or just hacking about till it worked? |
| 22:34.25 | bauglir | maemo |
| 22:34.33 | komputiko | and what's the best media player then... |
| 22:34.36 | komputiko | i love amarok >_< |
| 22:34.51 | lcuk | bauglir, sorry you are in the wrong channel, you need to enter the #iphone channel and start posting things like that |
| 22:35.21 | bauglir | Am I not in maemo? |
| 22:35.35 | lcuk | no, this is the eee channel |
| 22:35.44 | bauglir | you're wrong |
| 22:36.02 | lcuk | ahhh well, at least you are talking properly now :) enjoy your stay |
| 22:36.58 | MangoFusion | anyone here know how to install kde on my iphone? |
| 22:37.16 | MangoFusion | :P |
| 22:37.20 | lcuk | yes, but it involves a screwdriver |
| 22:38.18 | MangoFusion | well thats my idea down the drain. don't have a screwdriver |
| 22:38.36 | fysa | incase anyone cares: http://tablet.usizo.com/files/notify-send |
| 22:38.43 | bauglir | maemo |
| 22:38.50 | fysa | command-line libnotify tool for generating popup notifications |
| 22:38.58 | fysa | just copy to /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin/ |
| 22:39.08 | fysa | can be useful in scripts.. |
| 22:39.52 | bauglir | mamo |
| 22:39.53 | lcuk | who does it notify though? |
| 22:39.55 | bauglir | maemo |
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| 22:41.02 | fysa | it generates a pop-up message. i.e., "You have new mail." |
| 22:41.25 | lcuk | cool, one of the top right hand side inactive ones? or an actual clickable "ok" message? |
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| 22:41.38 | bauglir | maemo |
| 22:41.45 | fysa | inactive ones -- they will go into the 'queue' of the lower-left application switcher icon |
| 22:41.49 | bauglir | mamo |
| 22:41.52 | bauglir | maemo |
| 22:41.56 | lcuk | bauglir, you spelt it wrong, try again |
| 22:42.00 | fysa | you can specify an icon, timeout and a message |
| 22:42.04 | fysa | and an urgency.. |
| 22:42.27 | lcuk | fysa, thats actually kinda cool :) |
| 22:42.54 | fysa | I'm thinking of using passwordless ssh keys to have my desktop/server send remote notifications to the tablet |
| 22:42.59 | fysa | i.e., "rsync backup complete" |
| 22:43.17 | lcuk | would you send them to wherever your tablet is? |
| 22:43.23 | lcuk | or just when connected at home |
| 22:43.28 | fysa | this notify-send comes with libnotify, but for some reason it wasn't excluded. |
| 22:43.37 | fysa | I would use dyndns. |
| 22:43.45 | fysa | and a local router mapping to match.. |
| 22:43.55 | fysa | well, that won't always work. |
| 22:44.01 | fysa | so maybe just at home. |
| 22:44.14 | lcuk | would it make sense to have a deamon connection from the device to somewhere you control |
| 22:44.34 | bauglir | why |
| 22:44.50 | fysa | maybe you could use ssh to connect to your home server and map a port in reverse, to allow the home server to access it back. ;) |
| 22:44.59 | lcuk | so then the notifications can be obtained whenever they occur |
| 22:45.00 | fysa | incase you come up on WiFi behind someone's NAT ;) |
| 22:45.16 | lcuk | well thats the usual method for connection |
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| 22:45.36 | fysa | anyway, my main need for notify-send was so XChat could generate proper notifications |
| 22:46.05 | fysa | so I can receive xchat messages while the app is minimized |
| 22:46.39 | fysa | haven't quite gotten this to work properly yet though. I think the internal command-line that xchat uses is incompatible with the alpha/beta xchat deb we have now. |
| 22:46.40 | lcuk | cool, just have your client machine post something in the chan then and your xchat will hear it and respond |
| 22:46.42 | fysa | i.e., some path is wrong. |
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| 22:46.50 | lcuk | "fysa: your backup is done" |
| 22:46.55 | fysa | yeah, that could work too actually. |
| 22:47.12 | fysa | but xchat itself spawns notify-send |
| 22:47.27 | fysa | the newer version may use libnotify directly.. |
| 22:47.38 | fysa | there is also a libnotify module for python |
| 22:47.45 | lcuk | excellent |
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| 22:48.59 | lcuk | time for me to head back into vmware. lots to do still. |
| 22:50.01 | GeneralAntilles | zeroconf maybe? |
| 22:50.18 | chrisak- | yay rtcomm irc *does* work <happiness> |
| 22:50.34 | GeneralAntilles | xchat is better. |
| 22:52.23 | chrisak- | yes, i just saww your post saying so, and do use it :) But I had been bothered by the fact that I didn't realizee how to |
| 22:52.45 | chrisak- | join channel w/ rtcomm till now :) |
| 22:52.55 | fysa | xchat is excellent. xchat+bitlbee. :) |
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| 22:59.33 | chrisak- | antilles, you might know... it rtcomm intended to be official in diablo? |
| 22:59.59 | GeneralAntilles | Presumably |
| 23:00.22 | GeneralAntilles | It's not going anywhere in any case. |
| 23:00.23 | chrisak- | cool, thanks |
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| 23:02.11 | cyberholic | Good evening my friends. Does anyone of you can help me about REST/SOAP ? |
| 23:03.19 | gribouille | when will the next version of the OS be released ? |
| 23:03.34 | cyberholic | January 2013..... not! |
| 23:06.01 | gribouille | what are the languages supported by the maemo SDK ? |
| 23:06.25 | cyberholic | i can not tell you mon ami. |
| 23:08.56 | GeneralAntilles | gribouille, "Q2 2008" |
| 23:09.17 | cyberholic | General my friend: you are kidding! So quickly? |
| 23:09.36 | gribouille | GeneralAntilles, GeneralAntilles we are in Q2 2008, aren't we ? |
| 23:10.00 | GeneralAntilles | Diablo/maemo 4.1, cyberholic. |
| 23:10.11 | GeneralAntilles | We're more or less overdue compared to previous update cycles. |
| 23:10.17 | GeneralAntilles | Yes, gribouille. |
| 23:10.22 | GeneralAntilles | But just barely. |
| 23:10.26 | cyberholic | So the name will change from chinook to Diablo ? |
| 23:10.35 | gribouille | IMHO, the OS lacks polish and coherence |
| 23:10.41 | GeneralAntilles | They're going back to the OS2006 naming scheme. |
| 23:10.56 | GeneralAntilles | One codename per update. |
| 23:11.27 | gribouille | how many people are working on the OS ? |
| 23:11.38 | GeneralAntilles | gribouille, not all that many. |
| 23:11.47 | GeneralAntilles | The maemo project is very lightly staffed. |
| 23:11.50 | gribouille | GeneralAntilles, do you contribute ? |
| 23:11.52 | cyberholic | Gernall: are there any rumours about an included PIM? |
| 23:11.59 | GeneralAntilles | Only on the community side. |
| 23:12.11 | GeneralAntilles | cyberholic, PIM isn't part of the NIT plan. |
| 23:12.18 | GeneralAntilles | Use GPE or Pimlico |
| 23:12.21 | GeneralAntilles | They both work fine. |
| 23:13.27 | lcuk | or find/create your own and get it working well. YOU could become the head of PIM development for the maemo platform :) |
| 23:13.28 | cyberholic | well, i have beenw orking nearly 3 days to find a way to sync the device contacts with Facebook, yahoo or google and finally i am getting more and more into plaxo.com ..... the only problem: i have never ever worked with REST. Now i get some data on my browser but do not know how to handle it :( |
| 23:13.50 | cyberholic | Oh and: i am planning to realise a PIM for my n800 :) |
| 23:14.00 | lcuk | :) cyber |
| 23:14.19 | lcuk | work on what you believe in and see where it takes you |
| 23:14.34 | gribouille | cyberholic, do you think we need another one PIM ? |
| 23:14.39 | cyberholic | lcuk my friend! Good evening!: have you seen my Mojocafe radio? |
| 23:15.02 | cyberholic | grib: it is not about "another PIM" - it is about a pim that syncs with open standards so taht you do not need to enter the data on your device. |
| 23:15.06 | lcuk | i havent seen much on the mojo side, ive been working towards rapid fullscreen updating on the 810 |
| 23:15.32 | lcuk | and seeing what little modules i can build :) |
| 23:15.35 | cyberholic | lcuk: i also had so much work that i could not add new mojos for days. Check the radio whenever you want to: http://www.mojocafe.net/radio |
| 23:15.59 | cyberholic | lcuk: and tell me if you want me to add your personal radio station, and at what frequency you want it! |
| 23:16.03 | chrisak- | that radio was cool :) |
| 23:16.31 | lcuk | i dont listen to radio at all on any device, but i am sure others do. does it continue running if you go to other mojos? |
| 23:16.45 | cyberholic | thnx. The next version will have volume buttons. It made me go bezerk getting back from fullscreen to put volume down. Soooo not-userfruendly. |
| 23:17.32 | cyberholic | lcuk: no, it is not a mojo. it is a single page. It looks like a oldschool-radio where you can change frequency. it is definitely NOT userfriendly :) |
| 23:18.06 | lcuk | put it in your mojos and make it non modal so people can enjoy tunes whilst they mojo around |
| 23:18.29 | lcuk | or at least have a popout so they can just switch pages ;) |
| 23:18.56 | cyberholic | lcuk: yeah, good idea! but then i will have to add a "mute" button... wait... you just brought me to a nice idea! I can make an alarm clock that wakes you up with your prefered web-radio!.... let me write this down! |
| 23:19.23 | gribouille | is there a way to stop the blinking red-white icon in the status bar ? |
| 23:19.36 | gribouille | it is extremely irritating |
| 23:19.52 | cyberholic | grib: just get it off the status bar from the applets stuff. |
| 23:20.11 | gribouille | how ? |
| 23:21.15 | cyberholic | my device is not on at the moment. Go to home, applets or at the settings PANELS. sorry for beeing so short but i can not remember by heart at the moment. |
| 23:22.32 | bauglir | why |
| 23:22.54 | cyberholic | ok. i have to go to bed now. See you later my friends. |
| 23:23.19 | gribouille | ok, I've deleted my account |
| 23:23.24 | bauglir | why |
| 23:23.37 | gribouille | unused |
| 23:24.09 | bauglir | why |
| 23:25.03 | gribouille | for example, something I find quite annoying, is the absence of "recently used applications" entry in the menu |
| 23:26.57 | bauglir | why |
| 23:27.23 | MangoFusion | all you will ever need to use is the web browser. who needs a silly recently used applications menu |
| 23:27.33 | MangoFusion | what is it, a workstation? |
| 23:27.38 | MangoFusion | ;) |
| 23:28.20 | bauglir | why |
| 23:28.27 | bauglir | Poor MangoFusion |
| 23:28.36 | gribouille | MangoFusion, there are a few more apps |
| 23:28.44 | bauglir | poor gribouille |
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| 23:28.54 | bauglir | poor ken |
| 23:29.04 | gribouille | bauglir, very useful contribution |
| 23:29.19 | bauglir | do you admit you're poor? |
| 23:30.23 | MangoFusion | 0_0 |
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| 23:31.58 | KotCzarny | is poor too |
| 23:34.27 | fysa | is too poor for a slideout keyboard |
| 23:34.39 | fysa | the class divide is ruthless. |
| 23:35.13 | bauglir | poor fysa |
| 23:35.35 | bauglir | why are you so poor, fysa? |
| 23:35.59 | MangoFusion | workers unite, lets overthrow the bourgeoisie! |
| 23:36.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:36.28 | fysa | <- married |
| 23:36.35 | KotCzarny | just give us toys |
| 23:36.49 | KotCzarny | preferably free, unlocked and without spyware |
| 23:36.49 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:37.10 | fysa | when you're married, no matter how much you make, you're always poor ;) |
| 23:37.15 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 23:37.19 | KotCzarny | yeah, women |
| 23:39.00 | bauglir | There seems to be an alien pubic hair in my Gin. |
| 23:39.43 | KotCzarny | not enough gin then |
| 23:39.57 | gribouille | why is it so hard to move applets on the desktop ? |
| 23:40.10 | bauglir | Never seen it before in my life. Have you? |
| 23:40.18 | KotCzarny | looks |
| 23:40.21 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 23:40.22 | KotCzarny | not mine |
| 23:42.35 | GeneralAntilles | Hard, gribouille? |
| 23:42.38 | GeneralAntilles | Just tap and drag. |
| 23:43.36 | gribouille | I can do it with the finger, but not with the stylus |
| 23:43.51 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 23:43.53 | KotCzarny | perv |
| 23:44.29 | gribouille | I don't want to tap to strongly on the screen |
| 23:44.54 | KotCzarny | don't worry, it can bear with strong taps |
| 23:46.13 | lcuk | it can also take a great deal of pressure slowly. my missus was leaning her elbow on the screen and resting hand on chin whilst she idly browser the web. she said the color drained from my face when i saw her |
| 23:46.43 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 23:46.46 | KotCzarny | women |
| 23:46.59 | KotCzarny | but at least you know now |
| 23:47.32 | lcuk | i would rather never know. i think removing the hard cover from the 770 was a bad design choice |
| 23:47.51 | KotCzarny | i agree |
| 23:48.00 | lcuk | i just rest a book over my cradle now when im leaving it for a while |
| 23:48.05 | KotCzarny | my backpack is a harsh environment |
| 23:48.19 | lcuk | tshe lost the pouch i got with my 810 |
| 23:48.36 | lcuk | that was kinda ok but i was always nervous about leaving it in my pocket |
| 23:48.41 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:48.51 | KotCzarny | i believe you can buy/make a hardcover |
| 23:49.00 | lcuk | the one i had for my loox was hard inside so im just using that |
| 23:49.09 | KotCzarny | metal plate + 2 straps |
| 23:49.42 | lcuk | the loox one is fine, its got a clip and velcro opening etc - its just got the wrong name on the cover |
| 23:49.57 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 23:51.06 | GeneralAntilles | The hardcover is overrated. |
| 23:51.53 | KotCzarny | better than nothing |
| 23:52.49 | GeneralAntilles | kickstand > hardcover |
| 23:52.56 | lcuk | i pondered closing my cradle with the other half of the chess board (I had to get a small piece of wood from somewhere..) but then i realised if i slam down a heavy wooden cover and ive left the stylus there i could say bye bye to my tab |
| 23:53.29 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 23:53.35 | lcuk | (also going to be a problem with laptops and pens) |
| 23:55.35 | fysa | oh it works. copy that notify-send to /usr/bin/ and xchat alerts will work. |
| 23:55.54 | KotCzarny | http://break.com/classic-clips/dont-let-this-girl-punch-you_1.html?ref=track10 |
| 23:55.56 | KotCzarny | 0wned |
| 23:55.57 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 23:56.06 | KotCzarny | gah. tracker tag |
| 23:56.09 | KotCzarny | http://break.com/classic-clips/dont-let-this-girl-punch-you_1.html |
| 23:56.15 | KotCzarny | better without |
| 23:56.16 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 23:57.46 | fang64 | lol |
| 23:57.49 | fysa | very helpful for IM via xchat |
| 23:57.49 | fang64 | terrible |
| 23:58.44 | fysa | or channel highlight |
