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| 00:09.53 | edugof | somebody tries webot? |
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| 00:16.18 | webustany | hi there |
| 00:16.48 | webustany | I just installed latest sdk for chinook in a gutsy chroot, but it looks like the install script did not install the source repos in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 00:18.05 | webustany | when I type sb2, my prompt changes to [SB2 chinook40_armel] madcat@colibri ~ $ |
| 00:18.16 | webustany | but I can't run apt-get as user for example |
| 00:23.12 | edugof | anyneone knows how make "normal" phone calls from the N800 |
| 00:23.20 | KotCzarny | use skype |
| 00:23.20 | edugof | i think with Gizmo is possible |
| 00:23.29 | edugof | but free :P |
| 00:23.48 | KotCzarny | you mean 'pc to pc'? |
| 00:24.03 | edugof | no, pc to phone |
| 00:24.08 | edugof | n800 to phone |
| 00:24.16 | edugof | by wifi |
| 00:24.17 | KotCzarny | i think you will have to hunt for some promotions |
| 00:24.25 | edugof | hum |
| 00:24.35 | KotCzarny | phone companies want money for it |
| 00:24.53 | KotCzarny | ie. if it was free they will be out of bussiness |
| 00:25.16 | edugof | i thought that i could do with a SIP number |
| 00:25.29 | edugof | and Gizmo offers free calls |
| 00:25.31 | edugof | to landlines |
| 00:25.37 | edugof | :P |
| 00:25.40 | KotCzarny | promotion. |
| 00:25.51 | edugof | hehe ok |
| 00:25.52 | KotCzarny | skype started with free landlines in us too |
| 00:26.19 | edugof | ah ok |
| 00:26.24 | edugof | but im from spain :P |
| 00:26.25 | edugof | so i think |
| 00:26.29 | edugof | i will pay a little |
| 00:26.36 | KotCzarny | hehe |
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| 00:27.02 | KotCzarny | Call those contact on gizmo their mobile phone |
| 00:27.03 | KotCzarny | or landline for free* |
| 00:27.13 | KotCzarny | *More Details & List of Countries |
| 00:27.19 | KotCzarny | yeah, little print |
| 00:27.20 | KotCzarny | :P |
| 00:27.54 | edugof | yes |
| 00:27.57 | edugof | :P |
| 00:28.38 | KotCzarny | still gizmo is better than skype because it uses standard protocol |
| 00:29.00 | edugof | but i can pay it with paypal? |
| 00:29.01 | edugof | mmm |
| 00:29.11 | KotCzarny | find out yourself |
| 00:29.14 | KotCzarny | i'm not a gizmo rep |
| 00:29.15 | KotCzarny | :P |
| 00:29.22 | edugof | yes better |
| 00:29.24 | edugof | ty hehe |
| 00:29.26 | edugof | :P |
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| 00:30.52 | KotCzarny | hi pupnik |
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| 00:40.18 | webustany | if I installed the chinook40_armel rootstrap, when I type sb2 something |
| 00:40.25 | webustany | where should the command be executed ? |
| 00:40.34 | webustany | from the rootstrap ? it's an arm binary... |
| 00:40.51 | webustany | I followed the instructions on http://maemo-sdk.garage.maemo.org/install.html |
| 00:41.02 | webustany | it all worked fine till step 4 |
| 00:42.46 | webustany | it fails with arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: couldn't run `/opt/maemo/tools/arm-2005q3/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc--L/home/madcat/src/test/usr/lib': No such file or directory |
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| 01:02.54 | lcuk | wow :) i can see bookreader change speed whilst playing with the up_threshold |
| 01:03.13 | KotCzarny | writes kcirip |
| 01:03.29 | lcuk | KotCzarny, i am showing the colorcube and fps and playing with the up_threshold via ssh |
| 01:04.17 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 01:04.51 | lcuk | at default 80 the program is stepping back and using slow cpu and pulling 9fps stable. |
| 01:05.42 | KotCzarny | have you tried gcc autooptimizing ? |
| 01:05.50 | lcuk | at 60 the program is keeps revving itself sometimes 9 sometimes up to 20 |
| 01:06.02 | lcuk | i compile using -O3 :) keep it simple though |
| 01:06.09 | Swapper | is away: Estoy ocupado |
| 01:06.23 | lcuk | unoptimised i was running at full speed more often than not - the cpu was busier. |
| 01:06.30 | lcuk | but the code ran slower overall |
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| 01:07.33 | lcuk | (follow on)at 40 the program is stable at 27fps |
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| 01:41.24 | dospod | hey is pupnik still around |
| 01:41.29 | KotCzarny | sometimes |
| 01:41.41 | dospod | i meaan like now lol |
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| 01:42.23 | dospod | ah well ill catch him later |
| 01:42.27 | dospod | g'night mates |
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| 02:18.41 | maemo | I want to build a kernel module. But the scratchbox and the N800Å kernel version is not the same. What shoud I do then. Configure another kernel match N800Å version or something? |
| 02:18.51 | KotCzarny | it is |
| 02:19.24 | KotCzarny | check if your sdk matches your os |
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| 02:20.25 | maemo | Yes, OS2007 with Maemo 3.x. |
| 02:20.50 | johnx | and you're using SDK 3.2? |
| 02:21.17 | KotCzarny | also check where your kernel sources were sucked from |
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| 02:22.50 | KotCzarny | also have you done make n800_defconfig ? |
| 02:23.19 | johnx | KotCzarny, how does that make the kernel versions match? |
| 02:23.31 | KotCzarny | johnx: it preselects same config options |
| 02:24.15 | KotCzarny | i believe otherwise you can get invalid module magic |
| 02:24.30 | johnx | yeah, but not different kernel versions... |
| 02:24.58 | KotCzarny | but you can make module incompatible by simply choosing wrong option :) |
| 02:25.12 | johnx | yeah...but that's not what he said |
| 02:25.18 | KotCzarny | let me rewind |
| 02:25.33 | johnx | lets KotCzarny rewind |
| 02:25.33 | KotCzarny | ah. |
| 02:25.54 | KotCzarny | maemo: what is your uname -a on device and what is your kernel source dir name? |
| 02:26.35 | johnx | maemo, and what is the amount of the kernel version mismatch? is it just osso1 vs osso2 or is it 2.6.21 vs 2.6.18? |
| 02:27.26 | maemo | 2.6.22 vs 2.6.18 |
| 02:27.31 | KotCzarny | .22 ? |
| 02:27.35 | johnx | ?! |
| 02:27.40 | KotCzarny | where have you got that one? |
| 02:27.41 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 02:27.57 | johnx | maemo, make sure you have SDK 3.2 for working with OS2007 |
| 02:28.16 | johnx | (though I wonder why you're sticking with OS2007 at all so long after OS2008 has been released...) |
| 02:28.25 | KotCzarny | johnx: even os2008 have .21 |
| 02:28.32 | KotCzarny | checks the repos |
| 02:29.15 | KotCzarny | yup. still .21-osso71 |
| 02:29.19 | maemo | I will check then |
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| 02:33.04 | maemo | Sorry to make mistake. .22 is the host machines´s kernel version |
| 02:33.13 | johnx | ah |
| 02:33.20 | johnx | no worries :) |
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| 02:54.40 | KotCzarny | hah. |
| 02:54.51 | KotCzarny | now i have pps images ripper |
| 02:55.01 | KotCzarny | with listing/extracting ability |
| 02:55.03 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 02:55.19 | yllus | The Basilisk II Mac emulator is rather amusing |
| 03:00.15 | Kekerot | i just got it working on my nit like 10 seconds ago |
| 03:00.21 | Kekerot | im loading up warcraft 2 now lmao |
| 03:01.02 | Kekerot | haha it runs |
| 03:01.09 | Kekerot | but its in black in white |
| 03:01.14 | Kekerot | sound works too |
| 03:04.55 | Navi | Heh |
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| 03:05.28 | Kekerot | zugzug |
| 03:05.40 | Redline` | looptar. |
| 03:06.15 | Kekerot | any idea how to make basilisk run in 256 colors |
| 03:06.26 | Kekerot | i think that may let warcraft be in color |
| 03:06.32 | Kekerot | or the emulation is just bugged |
| 03:16.34 | errordeveloper | hm .. |
| 03:16.51 | errordeveloper | i got really annoyed getting this OTG plugin thing to work |
| 03:16.59 | errordeveloper | it's winds me up relly |
| 03:17.30 | yllus | OTG? |
| 03:17.32 | KotCzarny | then simply write to /sys file |
| 03:17.39 | errordeveloper | how about a serial port option ? |
| 03:17.46 | errordeveloper | KotCzarny: hm .. |
| 03:18.07 | KotCzarny | it's just as simple as echo "OTG" > /sys/somewhere/proper |
| 03:18.09 | errordeveloper | KotCzarny: is it all that the plugin is trying to do ? |
| 03:18.12 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 03:18.22 | KotCzarny | use google |
| 03:18.31 | yllus | I wonder if I can make my home Windows XP installation more tablet-friendly |
| 03:18.31 | errordeveloper | KotCzarny: and the ifconfig or other ip stuff ? |
| 03:18.47 | yllus | I'm getting into the habit of Remote Desktoping into it for speed |
| 03:18.49 | KotCzarny | that's another story |
| 03:19.05 | KotCzarny | otg is related to usb mode |
| 03:19.19 | KotCzarny | what happens on the usb is something different |
| 03:19.27 | Kekerot | http://download.system7today.com/games/Mac_Warcraft_II_Demo.sit.hqx |
| 03:19.38 | Kekerot | if anyone wants the demo |
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| 03:24.01 | KotCzarny | ed: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/usbnetworking/ |
| 03:36.45 | errordeveloper | wow, ukmp is exclent! |
| 03:37.05 | errordeveloper | especially youtube hack! finaly it's there ;] |
| 03:37.26 | errordeveloper | how about gettin the uktube to work on other platforms ? |
| 03:39.45 | KotCzarny | ok, go ahead |
| 03:39.58 | Proteous | heh |
| 03:42.50 | errordeveloper | KotCzarny: yeah .. i looked at that one, just that then i found the promissing plugin, cause i need to have the simple gui button ..it won't be me using that |
| 03:43.06 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 03:49.31 | jga23 | is there anyway to make the n810 lock when the keyboard gets closed? |
| 03:49.41 | KotCzarny | probably |
| 03:51.08 | jga23 | ok, any ideas how? |
| 03:53.00 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.34 | KotCzarny | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=160708 |
| 03:54.14 | KotCzarny | that's for detecting |
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| 03:56.20 | jga23 | awesome, thanks |
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| 04:05.18 | Jsn | does anyone know how to exit rdesktop? |
| 04:05.42 | KotCzarny | push the fullscreen button? |
| 04:05.54 | Jsn | nope that doesn't do anything |
| 04:05.58 | Jsn | neither does the applications key |
| 04:05.58 | KotCzarny | hum |
| 04:06.25 | KotCzarny | what about app list button? |
| 04:06.55 | KotCzarny | hum |
| 04:06.59 | Jsn | thats what i'm talking about. the apps key doesn't do anything |
| 04:07.02 | ttmrichter | KotCzarny: sorry for the disconnect yesterday without thanking you and ... damn! Forgot his name. My ISP decided I didn't need Internet service for a day and I lost all connections. |
| 04:07.23 | KotCzarny | ttmrichter: np |
| 04:07.24 | ttmrichter | KotCzarny: So thank you for the help yesterday and if you could pass it on to the other guy, please do so? |
| 04:07.28 | Jsn | i tried searching google but i didn't get much. one person said to hold down the home key, but i have no idea where the home key is? |
| 04:07.38 | ttmrichter | Jsn: It's the key with a little house on it. |
| 04:07.48 | KotCzarny | ttmrichter: i don't even remember what you are thanking me for 8) |
| 04:08.07 | ttmrichter | I was the one who wanted to give his N800 flying lessons. :) |
| 04:08.11 | KotCzarny | ah |
| 04:08.18 | KotCzarny | did it survive? |
| 04:08.29 | Jsn | where is that at on the n810? |
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| 04:08.46 | ttmrichter | Well, my source of frustration moved from the N800 to my ISP (an outfit run by retarded, untrained chimpanzees) so it survived the day. |
| 04:08.48 | KotCzarny | jsn: there's always ssh and killall :) |
| 04:08.58 | KotCzarny | or shutdown the pc |
| 04:08.59 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 04:09.11 | KotCzarny | should disconnect rdesktop session? |
| 04:09.19 | Jsn | i can't access maemo at all. all i have is the host desktop |
| 04:09.46 | KotCzarny | as i said, try killing the session on the pc |
| 04:09.51 | Jsn | i'm like the app. i don't want to have to shutdown the tablet everytime i turn want to close rdesktop |
| 04:09.54 | errordeveloper | in fact i have noticed that os08 does take quite a while to but .. |
| 04:10.25 | KotCzarny | i have never used rdesktop |
| 04:10.37 | KotCzarny | i like vnc more :) |
| 04:10.44 | errordeveloper | may be if i have looked at the boot msgs could actually have a different perception .. |
| 04:10.54 | Jsn | the xrdp server uses vnc |
| 04:10.54 | KotCzarny | but solution to your problem is probably in manual.. |
| 04:11.09 | errordeveloper | how to get the verbose console it it is possibple actually ? |
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| 04:11.22 | Jsn | well there are hot keys to exit full screen, problem is that the n810 doesn't have a f8 key or an alt key |
| 04:11.33 | KotCzarny | ed: insert: dmesg >/tmp/dmesg.log to startup scripts |
| 04:11.35 | Jsn | does vnc show the desktop like rdesktop? |
| 04:12.13 | KotCzarny | m$ uses vnc protocol in rdesktop? |
| 04:12.22 | errordeveloper | or get rid of the white nokia screen screen and the terrible ? ah probably will see it all the startup script :) |
| 04:12.25 | errordeveloper | cool .. |
| 04:12.28 | errordeveloper | :) |
| 04:12.38 | KotCzarny | ed: for that you will need to modify initfs |
| 04:12.49 | Jsn | no, i'm using rdesktop to log into my ubunut machine running xrdp |
| 04:13.07 | KotCzarny | hum |
| 04:13.20 | errordeveloper | hm .. not too keen on that ..i never really used initrd |
| 04:13.35 | KotCzarny | ed: you can modify bootup screens too |
| 04:13.37 | Jsn | how do you kill a vnc connection? |
| 04:13.46 | KotCzarny | by simply replacing then in /usr/share somewhere |
| 04:14.19 | KotCzarny | jsn: hmm, if you need f8 you can try esc then 8 |
| 04:14.24 | KotCzarny | worth a try.. |
| 04:14.25 | errordeveloper | oh yeah, sounds better, would just make it black or may be ivert the colours of the maemo logo |
| 04:14.47 | Jsn | there's no esc key on the n810 |
| 04:14.56 | KotCzarny | huh |
| 04:15.14 | KotCzarny | jsn: install xkbd |
| 04:15.15 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:15.17 | Jsn | sure do wish that my igo bluetooth keyboard was here! |
| 04:15.30 | KotCzarny | it can be told to use simplified layouts |
| 04:15.37 | KotCzarny | so it would take minimal screen space |
| 04:15.40 | Jsn | is xkbd a vnc server? |
| 04:15.45 | KotCzarny | and will provide you with fkeys |
| 04:15.49 | KotCzarny | no |
| 04:15.53 | KotCzarny | it's on screen keyboard |
| 04:15.57 | Jsn | oh |
| 04:16.13 | KotCzarny | so you can use a layout with 2 buttons only |
| 04:16.16 | KotCzarny | 'esc' and 'f8' |
| 04:16.22 | KotCzarny | could be usefull i guess |
| 04:16.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:16.29 | Jsn | well i tried to bring up the onscreen keyboard of the n810, but even with the qwerty keyboard closed, in rdesktop, the onscreen keyboard doesn't come up |
| 04:17.44 | KotCzarny | ed: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon/ |
| 04:17.59 | KotCzarny | qgn_indi_about_nokia_logo.png |
| 04:18.04 | KotCzarny | qgn_indi_startup_nokia_logo.png |
| 04:18.09 | KotCzarny | qgn_indi_nokia_hands.jpg |
| 04:18.30 | jaska | should replace with skeletal hands |
| 04:18.33 | KotCzarny | probably last 2 are the bootup screens |
| 04:18.57 | KotCzarny | i put a skeletal kitty |
| 04:19.00 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:19.27 | KotCzarny | mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/KotCzarny.jpg |
| 04:19.29 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 04:19.59 | KotCzarny | though it's more like a vampire kitty |
| 04:21.17 | errordeveloper | KotCzarny: czarny is black, right ? |
| 04:21.21 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 04:23.51 | errordeveloper | KotCzarny: i wonder is that polish or cz? or may be slovak? |
| 04:24.27 | KotCzarny | pl |
| 04:24.39 | errordeveloper | i do understand some bits of each, but probably best slovak, but rather separate words |
| 04:24.47 | errordeveloper | ok .. |
| 04:25.37 | errordeveloper | "god damn rusky" :)) |
| 04:25.50 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 04:26.06 | KotCzarny | i have 4 archs in my room |
| 04:26.17 | KotCzarny | x86, arm, mips and powerpc |
| 04:26.21 | KotCzarny | heh |
| 04:26.59 | errordeveloper | ah .. i do have something like this as well, may be even more, but there two rooters just getting dust ,,(( |
| 04:27.21 | errordeveloper | and three macs not up since a long while :( |
| 04:27.36 | jaska | hmm, x86/x86_64, arm, vax, powerpc, sparc, some 68k maybe but dont think it runs |
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| 04:27.55 | errordeveloper | i don't fill gready enuf to run them all just for myself |
| 04:27.58 | KotCzarny | i have 68k in my other room |
| 04:28.06 | KotCzarny | 7mhz is too little nowadays... |
| 04:28.18 | KotCzarny | even my cellphone is clocked ~100mhz |
| 04:28.21 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:28.25 | jaska | atleat for modern bloatware :) |
| 04:28.36 | jaska | s/at/ast/ |
| 04:28.39 | jaska | argh |
| 04:28.43 | jaska | failure cascade |
| 04:28.44 | errordeveloper | i got a 25mhz one, mac LC II or something like that .. |
| 04:28.50 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:29.11 | errordeveloper | couldn't get the monitor addapter, but it did but up really really quickly! |
| 04:29.13 | KotCzarny | vax is too obscure for me |
| 04:29.19 | KotCzarny | and sparc, hum |
| 04:29.25 | KotCzarny | used that one in school ;) |
| 04:29.33 | KotCzarny | few times only :) |
| 04:29.45 | errordeveloper | very little ram, as you can imagine, but there isn't even ethernet |
| 04:30.10 | KotCzarny | had networked amiga500 via plip |
| 04:30.12 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:30.21 | errordeveloper | only the apple iface, and what that could do anyway ? |
| 04:30.24 | KotCzarny | ssh was overkill :> |
| 04:31.44 | errordeveloper | keeping up with hw subject ..do have an ultra5 downstares, meant to be a great thing for what i wish i'd be doing |
| 04:32.26 | errordeveloper | i even like sol8 in a way, but anyway it turns out to be uncomfy and i only can do stuff on the main box ;( |
| 04:33.28 | KotCzarny | run a linux on it |
| 04:33.28 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 04:36.25 | errordeveloper | so my attempt to remount initfs rw didn't work out, there's not any space left ;( |
| 04:36.43 | errordeveloper | KotCzarny: for the sparc i had rather an netbsd option |
| 04:37.10 | errordeveloper | or mayb fbsd, cause it might lack sound card drivers .. |
| 04:37.40 | errordeveloper | may be i could get sb live to work ..then would be totaly usefull ;!) |
| 04:38.11 | errordeveloper | so howabout the initfs lave modification? impossible, right ? |
| 04:38.26 | errordeveloper | and probably unrecomended .. |
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| 05:04.57 | Italodance | hi |
| 05:05.18 | Italodance | wow Call of Duty 4 is going to IT |
| 05:05.24 | Italodance | http://linuxuk.blogspot.com/ |
| 05:05.25 | Italodance | :D |
| 05:08.32 | Kekerot | i have crysis on my tablet |
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| 05:18.03 | jga23 | anybody have any examples of reading dbus signals in python? |
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| 05:24.16 | Italodance | when i want to shut down my n800 os2008 the dpad will blink...is it normal and ok? |
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| 05:27.45 | Italodance | ? |
| 05:33.47 | Italodance | can someone reply me? |
| 05:34.21 | jga23 | I haven't had a n800 for awhile, but if I remember right, that's normal |
| 05:35.04 | Italodance | jga23 um it 's os2007 infact i updated 2007 to 2008 and saw it! |
| 05:37.04 | jga23 | I wouldn't be too worried |
| 05:37.24 | Italodance | and how can i enabled the light of dpad for the night? |
| 05:37.53 | jga23 | search itt, there is a thread there with a script to turn it on/off |
| 05:38.24 | Italodance | ok tnx |
| 05:42.11 | Navi | It's normal |
| 05:42.27 | Italodance | y |
| 05:42.53 | Italodance | Navi u have this view yes? |
| 05:42.58 | Navi | What? |
| 05:44.17 | Italodance | shut down n800 os2008 that the dpad will blink |
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| 05:55.01 | KotCzarny | http://www.techamok.com/?pid=4296 |
| 05:55.03 | KotCzarny | ugh |
| 05:55.10 | KotCzarny | i don't want q1 anymore |
| 05:55.13 | KotCzarny | it's big. :/ |
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| 06:08.39 | KotCzarny | http://www.techamok.com/?pid=4295 |
| 06:08.42 | KotCzarny | nice idea, lol |
| 06:11.44 | Cptnodegard | i hate itouch |
| 06:11.49 | Cptnodegard | iverpriced POS |
| 06:11.51 | Cptnodegard | :) |
| 06:12.53 | KotCzarny | still, it's gui is nice |
| 06:13.16 | KotCzarny | and nice gui is quite important, isn't it? |
| 06:13.19 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 06:13.23 | Cptnodegard | canole is better :) |
| 06:13.36 | Cptnodegard | and no, i prefer features |
| 06:13.58 | KotCzarny | nice gui can have features too |
| 06:14.15 | Cptnodegard | but in the case of the ipod, it doesnt |
| 06:14.23 | Cptnodegard | which is kinda my point |
| 06:15.09 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 06:15.47 | Cptnodegard | i use my mp3 player for music, so i need music features, not a wrothless puny webbrowser |
| 06:15.56 | KotCzarny | still, the idea for holes in screen protector could be usefull |
| 06:16.38 | Cptnodegard | wonder how that looks in sunshine though |
| 06:17.50 | Lynoure | I'd think holes in a screen protector would make those areas so much more likely to hold dirt |
| 06:19.00 | Cptnodegard | that too |
| 06:19.16 | Cptnodegard | so it would be evern more like a real kb >:D |
| 06:19.24 | KotCzarny | huh |
| 06:19.50 | Cptnodegard | kb keys are dirtyer than toilets etc |
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| 06:22.22 | Cptnodegard | wonder when my igo will get toilet status :/ |
| 06:22.41 | KotCzarny | borrow it |
| 06:22.43 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 06:24.09 | AStorm | lol |
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| 06:40.49 | jga23 | can anybody help me with dbus messages in python? |
| 06:47.01 | AStorm | documentation can |
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| 06:51.16 | jga23 | there isn't much for dbus stuff, I know the interface and path, but I can't get the signal to actually fire |
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| 07:10.37 | AStorm | I think that on 2.6.21 renicing Xomap will help performance |
| 07:10.46 | AStorm | like, -10 |
| 07:11.32 | AStorm | I'd love schedtool package |
| 07:12.00 | AStorm | and some newer kernel too |
| 07:12.54 | AStorm | maybe just 2.6.21 with CFS |
| 07:13.02 | AStorm | (backported) |
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| 07:16.51 | Ki6AMD | I feel so alone |
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| 07:35.18 | Italodance | huhu |
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| 07:41.55 | Italodance | needed hildon-libs0 (>= 0.12.20-1), libdbus -1-2 (>=0.61) |
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| 07:53.17 | Italodance | hey can someone give them to me? |
| 07:55.56 | AStorm | you should have them on your nokia? |
| 07:56.28 | AStorm | alternatively, they're in SDK |
| 07:56.52 | kulve | aren't the hildon-lib0 some 2007 stuff..? |
| 07:56.57 | kulve | isn't |
| 07:57.06 | AStorm | might be, let me check |
| 07:58.07 | AStorm | how would I autorenice Xomap? |
| 07:58.51 | AStorm | tha hildon-lib0 isn't here on my OS2008 |
| 07:59.06 | kulve | AStorm: /etc/init.d/x-server: |
| 07:59.08 | kulve | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:59.08 | kulve | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:59.08 | kulve | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:00.58 | AStorm | mhm |
| 08:01.12 | AStorm | dsmetool? |
| 08:01.45 | AStorm | ahha, watchdog for reboot |
| 08:01.51 | kulve | it's a tool to start application and to restart when need. Or boot the device if restart isn't an option |
| 08:02.11 | AStorm | :P |
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| 08:05.52 | pupnik | poll: favorite user-installed font for terminal? |
| 08:06.15 | AStorm | dejavu sans mono! |
| 08:06.25 | pupnik | ty |
| 08:06.58 | pupnik | just copy into /usr/share/fonts ? |
| 08:07.13 | pupnik | er maybe /usr/share/fonts/nokia ? |
| 08:07.16 | AStorm | install ttf-dejavu |
| 08:07.18 | AStorm | :P |
| 08:07.29 | AStorm | it's in extras I think |
| 08:07.33 | pupnik | oh duh |
| 08:08.14 | pupnik | wow 5640kB |
| 08:08.52 | AStorm | well, fonts are large, esp. multilingual |
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| 08:09.37 | AStorm | time to try new vmware-server |
| 08:09.41 | AStorm | 1.5 |
| 08:09.55 | AStorm | 1.0.5.00187 |
| 08:10.09 | AStorm | 80187 that is |
| 08:11.23 | aquatix | morning all |
| 08:11.36 | aquatix | AStorm: those darn version numbers ;) |
| 08:12.00 | AStorm | hehe |
| 08:13.24 | pupnik | osso-xterm 2008 still only shows me three font options sans, monospace etc |
| 08:13.53 | pupnik | monospace, sans, serif |
| 08:13.55 | AStorm | reboot |
| 08:13.59 | AStorm | :P |
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| 08:15.47 | pupnik | fc-cache -f didn't help... rebooting |
| 08:18.46 | AStorm | as I said, reboot |
| 08:20.11 | pupnik | much nicer, thanks AStorm |
| 08:20.41 | pupnik | now i need to set font size from a shellscript |
| 08:20.55 | AStorm | hmm, simulate zoom button press? |
| 08:21.02 | AStorm | with some dbus |
| 08:21.16 | pupnik | argh |
| 08:21.26 | pupnik | osso-xterm keeps displaying the toolbar every time i restart |
| 08:21.38 | AStorm | here it does that too |
| 08:22.14 | AStorm | I'm owned... |
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| 08:22.27 | pupnik | files a bug |
| 08:22.49 | AStorm | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:26.33 | AStorm | it's glibc 2.7 vs gcc 4.2.3 |
| 08:26.43 | AStorm | and broken fixincl :/ |
| 08:26.44 | pupnik | what U doing AStorm ? |
| 08:26.55 | AStorm | trying to debreak my gentoo |
| 08:27.14 | AStorm | it's a lost case, needs a reinstall |
| 08:27.22 | AStorm | ehhh.. |
| 08:27.45 | aquatix | hm, debreak and gentoo in one sentence... ;) |
| 08:28.03 | pupnik | inz: around? can you make osso-xterm remember the toolbar remember settings to not appear with every start? |
| 08:28.10 | AStorm | it's usually simple, but I blame the FS |
| 08:28.24 | AStorm | too much ricing |
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| 08:28.47 | AStorm | so, need reinstall |
| 08:29.05 | AStorm | or at least FS and kernel change |
| 08:29.16 | AStorm | then recompile of everything |
| 08:29.21 | AStorm | ehhhh... |
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| 08:30.45 | AStorm | ok, I'll play over ssh |
| 08:30.56 | AStorm | have to go to uni |
| 08:31.03 | pupnik | carpe diem |
| 08:31.07 | AStorm | hehehe |
| 08:31.34 | AStorm | the worst part is restoring the settings |
| 08:31.44 | AStorm | (of full reinstall) |
| 08:31.45 | aquatix | tar cjf etc.tar.bz2 /etc ;) |
| 08:31.59 | AStorm | I blame btrfs again :P |
| 08:32.04 | aquatix | and a dump with the listing of your packages |
| 08:32.31 | AStorm | aquatix; and emerge $(< /pkglist) |
| 08:32.40 | AStorm | ya |
| 08:32.45 | aquatix | something like that |
| 08:32.48 | AStorm | but I hate it :P |
| 08:32.52 | aquatix | don't know the gentoo details :) |
| 08:33.04 | aquatix | because it takes weeks? |
| 08:33.12 | AStorm | fortunately, I have lvm, so tar isn't necessary |
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| 08:38.30 | AStorm | stupid vmware tries to use system libstdc++ |
| 08:38.39 | AStorm | which is too new for it |
| 08:38.51 | AStorm | (of gcc 4.3) |
| 08:39.09 | AStorm | so, need a chroot for it, yuck :P |
| 08:39.48 | pupnik | can't you setenv LD_LIBRARY or something? |
| 08:39.59 | AStorm | see you later |
| 08:40.06 | pupnik | tahtah |
| 08:40.12 | AStorm | :P |
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| 08:46.39 | christefano | does the N8x0 tablets use the same power adapters as the Nokia mobile phones? |
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| 08:48.46 | Kypeli | yes |
| 08:49.12 | pupnik | ok i'm building my own osso-xterm |
| 08:49.18 | christefano | thanks. I was wondering if the adapter sold at http://store.solio.com/s.nl/it.A/id.144/.f was compatible |
| 08:49.44 | christefano | pupnik: will it have tranlucent windows? :) |
| 08:51.20 | pupnik | no |
| 08:52.16 | christefano | pupnik: what are the things it will it do better? |
| 08:53.03 | pupnik | disable toolbar |
| 08:54.17 | christefano | just that sounds pretty useful |
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| 08:59.21 | pupnik | ahh new osso-xterm needs esc to be hit TWICE |
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| 09:00.07 | GnutoN810 | hi |
| 09:01.41 | nrktk | yup |
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| 09:02.56 | Italodance | :D |
| 09:03.03 | Italodance | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18384 |
| 09:03.05 | Italodance | ??? |
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| 09:17.32 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 09:20.32 | webustany | hi there |
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| 09:33.57 | Gnuton | hi webustany |
| 09:34.54 | webustany | (actually I've got no questions for now, but I will soon ;-) I'm installing chinook sdk in a debian chroot) |
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| 09:49.59 | pupnik | yeah osso-xterm fails to load the osso_xterm_ gconf settings |
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| 09:50.03 | pupnik | for scrollbar and toolbar |
| 09:50.14 | pupnik | you can edit them in gconf editor and they don't take effect |
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| 09:51.36 | pupnik | action = gtk_action_group_get_action(app->action_group, "scrollbar") |
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| 09:51.46 | pupnik | action = gtk_action_group_get_action(app->action_group, "toolbar"); |
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| 10:22.32 | pupnik | would someone with a bit of a clue about gtk please PLEASE fix osso-xterm to properly load the gconf settings for toolbar and scrollbar? |
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| 10:23.13 | pupnik | osso-xterm-0.14.arnim/src/terminal-app.c Jony Valtanen... PLEASE |
| 10:23.20 | pupnik | Joni rather |
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| 10:24.38 | pupnik | this is a CORE maemo app INTEGRATED into OS2008 which is BROKEN |
| 10:24.49 | jott | pupnik: just use the svn version :P |
| 10:25.06 | pupnik | oh |
| 10:25.07 | pupnik | ... |
| 10:25.39 | pupnik | This project has not released any files. |
| 10:25.40 | jani | pupnik: like there's no other apps in os2008 which aint broken ;) |
| 10:25.41 | jott | be careful, head is not in trunk but branches and tags |
| 10:25.49 | pupnik | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/osso-xterm/ |
| 10:25.58 | jott | there is no build afaik |
| 10:26.26 | pupnik | ok |
| 10:26.43 | pupnik | you know this is fixed in svn? |
| 10:27.19 | jott | https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/*checkout*/osso-xterm/branches/product/debian/changelog?root=osso-xterm |
| 10:28.14 | pupnik | grhblah! |
| 10:28.36 | pupnik | they're up to mh11 and repos only have mh3? |
| 10:29.09 | jott | don't know their policy... :/ |
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| 10:29.32 | jott | but counting the number of closed bugs its really strange :P |
| 10:29.57 | pupnik | thanks for the push |
| 10:30.06 | pupnik | i was being a bit idiotic |
| 10:30.09 | jott | maybe file a bug |
| 10:30.18 | jott | release new version :) |
| 10:30.37 | jott | or "closing this bug would also close bug x,y,z,a,b,c,d" :) |
| 10:32.55 | pupnik | i feel like having a tantrum |
| 10:33.07 | pupnik | there's tons of stuff in the svn |
| 10:33.30 | mourad | being a newbie on maemo devel, I want to test the connection of intenet on N810. but I have problem in getting the event involved in connections. Do anybody can give me some hints ? |
| 10:34.01 | pupnik | there's a way to test it via dbus called 'conic' |
| 10:34.11 | Yancho | Hi, I have installed Maemo as per these instructions : http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/chinook/INSTALL.txt .. When I try to load it, and go to Install Hello World Application, I get an OK dialago, but it does not feautre in the Installed Applications. This is the full log : http://yancho.pastebin.com/d68544600 - Any idea please? |
| 10:35.50 | pupnik | where does it say to start scratchbox with the 'scratchbox' command Yancho ? |
| 10:37.18 | Yancho | pupnik it says start outside scratchbox and further up it says to start scratchbox by using scratchbox command :| |
| 10:37.31 | sp3000 | iirc the debs or somesuch create a bin/scratchbox for starting scratchbox |
| 10:37.36 | sp3000 | doesn't quite recall |
| 10:37.52 | sp3000 | or, for logging into scratchbox rather |
| 10:39.03 | Yancho | is it how i started scratchbox which is the problem? |
| 10:39.14 | pupnik | ok no i just have an older scratchbox here |
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| 10:40.23 | sp3000 | wonders where an "Install Hello World Application" is |
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| 10:42.15 | mourad | pupnik: I use the conic.h but I do not receive events |
| 10:42.20 | Yancho | main menu > settings > application manager > main view > browse installable applications > hello-world-app |
| 10:42.28 | Yancho | neither could i install maemopad |
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| 10:46.39 | pupnik | mourad: i don't know anything about it, but acmonitor by derf uses it - perhaps the source would help you |
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| 10:47.13 | sp3000 | isn't sure all of these work under qemu |
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| 10:47.35 | sp3000 | I'd randomly blame that but it's mostly magic to me |
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| 10:49.25 | mourad | pupnik: if you want I can show you the few lines of code i wrote... I am sure I am missing an obvious thing... |
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| 10:51.20 | pupnik | mourad: http://pupnik.de/acmonitor_n800-0.1.tar.gz might help you |
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| 10:51.38 | Yancho | any idea please pupnik / sp3000 ? |
| 10:52.04 | sp3000 | dunno, try the non-armel target? |
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| 10:52.12 | pupnik | never seen those errors Yancho |
| 10:52.37 | Yancho | :( argh |
| 10:52.38 | sp3000 | I have hello-world-app in the installed list but I don't know where I installed that from |
| 10:52.58 | jani | mourad: osso subsustems initialized properly and registered a callbacks? |
| 10:52.59 | pupnik | there are many errors before the hello-world-app |
| 10:53.53 | Yancho | is it because i started scratchbox after xserver? |
| 10:54.13 | mourad | pupnik: ok I will see it :) |
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| 10:56.51 | jani | mourda: got the code somewhere ? |
| 10:57.04 | jani | mourad .. bah typo |
| 11:01.22 | mourad | jani : http://paste.dunnewind.net/693 |
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| 11:06.16 | Cerros | is away: |
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| 11:28.15 | pupnik | jott: have you built any newer osso-xterm from svn? |
| 11:28.25 | pupnik | i deleted it... way too much confusingness |
| 11:30.13 | jott | pupnik: yeah just did a build of head, had mh6 before ;) |
| 11:30.47 | pupnik | i only see mh3 in repo |
| 11:31.46 | pupnik | that SUCKS |
| 11:32.00 | jott | http://sse2.net/xterm/ |
| 11:32.13 | jott | works fine so far |
| 11:32.33 | jott | (you also need the vte update) |
| 11:32.44 | jott | ok gtg.. later |
| 11:33.03 | pupnik | thx! |
| 11:35.07 | florian | good morning |
| 11:39.33 | pupnik | still can't disable the goddamn scrollbar with mh11 |
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| 12:09.12 | Italodance | mplayer 26 sucks but 25 is good! |
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| 12:10.20 | GeneralAntilles | lol? :\ |
| 12:10.32 | Italodance | yeah i tested now |
| 12:11.47 | GeneralAntilles | Your conclusion is contrary to the conclusion of most of the community. |
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| 12:15.21 | Italodance | hehe my test was for play mp4 video files and the 25 can do it better |
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| 12:28.11 | pupnik | For the google. Updated OS2008 osso xterm build osso-xterm_0.14.mh11_armel.deb is here: http://pupnik.de/xterm.html (*thanks* jott) |
| 12:29.54 | helpmeobiwan | pup, you're library gets bigger and bigger every day. thanks for all the fish :) |
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| 12:31.01 | cyberholic | Good afternoon everyone. |
| 12:31.58 | helpmeobiwan | <<< lcuk @ work by the way (tracy if you notice me flashing, hello \:D) |
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| 12:32.20 | cyberholic | I need your critics! I have just done a new www.mojocafe.net Mojo for our devices that i call "Mojocafe Funpixxx" - it is like using your device as a photoframe, showing "funny" photos from time to time... what do you think about it? |
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| 12:32.54 | helpmeobiwan | cyberholic: i increased stars to about 5000 individual pixels |
| 12:32.55 | cyberholic | At the moment the update is half-hourly, but shall i make it realy 24/7 ? |
| 12:33.10 | cyberholic | help: lol... what do you mean? |
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| 12:33.31 | helpmeobiwan | starfield you mentioned with about 20 stars... i said i had one with 1000 |
| 12:33.44 | aquatix | pupnik: it allows disabling the toolbar except it doesn't? |
| 12:34.02 | cyberholic | ah... great! now THAT is a warp starfield... commander kirk would be delighted ;) |
| 12:34.22 | helpmeobiwan | toolbar == disableable, SCROLLBAR == still visible |
| 12:34.24 | pupnik | aquatix: the toggle was not persistent |
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| 12:35.03 | aquatix | ah |
| 12:35.37 | cyberholic | so, does anyone of you use his/her device as photo-frame viewer? |
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| 12:36.21 | pupnik | cyberholic: likely the target customers for that aren't hanging out here |
| 12:36.39 | aquatix | does the default xterm allow me to choose another font [like dejavu sans mono]? |
| 12:36.44 | cyberholic | i know... they do not hang out anywhere because Nokia ain`t targeting end-customers :) |
| 12:36.46 | aquatix | or do i need your build or something? |
| 12:36.48 | pupnik | yes |
| 12:36.52 | helpmeobiwan | pupnik, i was playing with the cpu throttling last night and had some very nice speedups. i was watching the program running in each speed band by just changing the parameter presumably without upsetting battery consumption |
| 12:36.55 | helpmeobiwan | too much |
| 12:37.01 | aquatix | cyberholic: net yet, but it sounds like a plan :) |
| 12:37.16 | aquatix | will burn the backlight quite fast maybe though |
| 12:37.49 | helpmeobiwan | it might be an idea to try it with some of your emulators and see if you gain any benefits |
| 12:37.53 | cyberholic | aquatix: well, like the latest poll on internettablettalk shows: installing software ist just a small step into a direction that the ordinary handheld users starts to fall in love with maemo. |
| 12:38.18 | aquatix | oh, i love maemo already :) |
| 12:38.31 | aquatix | loved it before i had my n810 |
| 12:38.33 | helpmeobiwan | i have a love/hate relationship with maemo |
| 12:38.52 | helpmeobiwan | i love the device and the OS, but HATE the development environment support around |
| 12:38.58 | cyberholic | i do too... but an ordinary user would get depressed having to realize that it is NOT so easy to install certain software or get further vod or podcasts with the video center. |
| 12:40.33 | cyberholic | Canola and the VideoCenter, in my opinion, are the MOST UNBELIEVABLE features ever had on an handheld - even the ipod/itouch sucks in these points of entertainment but Nokia does not boost these things in a manner that an enduser would/could understand that. |
| 12:40.48 | Kypeli | Canola is buggy as hell |
| 12:41.41 | cyberholic | yes, but the usability for "ordinary end users" is awesome - i also do prefer the media player, but i am a project developer and know that the usage of software installation on maemo just sucks. |
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| 12:42.00 | Kypeli | Yes, agree. Canola is great when it works |
| 12:42.15 | GeneralAntilles | Thus, "beta". |
| 12:42.16 | helpmeobiwan | nokia is geared towards a little stylus - touch devices benefit from finger control |
| 12:42.58 | aquatix | the default media player is quite ok |
| 12:43.03 | helpmeobiwan | looks at his fingers and wonders if he could implant a stylus (dont ask about nails, they are a source of nourishment) |
| 12:43.08 | aquatix | is there a better player aside from canola? |
| 12:43.22 | aquatix | helpmeobiwan: pointy fingers :) |
| 12:43.23 | Kypeli | I would love Canola for the podcasting. |
| 12:43.31 | helpmeobiwan | :D i'll sharpen them |
| 12:43.32 | Kypeli | ANy other good podcast client for Maemo (N810)? |
| 12:43.37 | cyberholic | Two weeks ago i installed ubuntu on my old PC and instantly fell in love with it! Specially the "software repository" stuff just like on maemo. You want a game, ask the repository! You want an image viewer, go ask the repository! No googeling or similiar - only check and update. ... this sould be possible with maemo too!!! |
| 12:43.40 | aquatix | Kypeli: wget? |
| 12:43.45 | Kypeli | lolz |
| 12:43.59 | cyberholic | Kypeli: since i have my n800 i ignore podcasts and fell in love with vodcasts. |
| 12:44.02 | aquatix | cyberholic: yeah, the power of Debian's apt :) |
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| 12:44.10 | cyberholic | I LOVE THAT! |
| 12:44.31 | wom- | cyberholic: what app are you using for vodcasts? |
| 12:44.32 | Kypeli | I have a regular set of podcasts I listen to on my iPod. I would love to replace my iPod with my N810 |
| 12:44.46 | cyberholic | ... and i am not a *nix master! |
| 12:45.02 | aquatix | try apt-cache search <whatever> to search for a program, or try the `available programs' in the package manager |
| 12:45.18 | cyberholic | Kypeli: try the video center - aweful design but it might be of interest to you. |
| 12:45.30 | Kypeli | Thanks, I'll try. |
| 12:45.52 | cyberholic | So anyone: what do you think of my latest Mojo? The one with the funpictures showing? |
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| 12:46.21 | aquatix | cyberholic: can i use Mojo offline? |
| 12:46.48 | cyberholic | aquatix: well, the clocks yes, the newsfeed, webcam and now the funpix thing not. |
| 12:47.02 | aquatix | ok |
| 12:47.15 | aquatix | that's logical |
| 12:47.27 | aquatix | just wondered, because on the video i saw you needed to log in first |
| 12:47.48 | cyberholic | Well, on the other hand you can, but they will only show the last information from your update. For example for the wather, that would be bad if it reads sunshine and outside it is snowing ;) |
| 12:48.18 | aquatix | :) |
| 12:48.27 | helpmeobiwan | cyberholic: i hope it doesnt just randomly select pictures from erm specific hidden folders? |
| 12:48.29 | jott | pupnik: scrollbar vanishes with mh11 when i do "gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/xterm/scrollbar -t bool false" |
| 12:48.41 | cyberholic | aquatix: the login is because it gets the mojos you have added to your profile. So if you want to use them offline, visit the page with your device, login, start the mojos and then go offline. |
| 12:48.47 | aquatix | helpmeobiwan: :) |
| 12:49.04 | cyberholic | helpmeobiwan: nah, it gets the photos from a newsfeed. |
| 12:49.05 | jott | but the vte is broken again .. no "light black" :( |
| 12:49.13 | helpmeobiwan | nakednews? |
| 12:49.17 | cyberholic | lol |
| 12:49.23 | cyberholic | you want me to do such a mojo? |
| 12:49.30 | helpmeobiwan | :D lol |
| 12:49.34 | aquatix | fleshbot :P |
| 12:50.08 | jott | inz: around? :) |
| 12:50.12 | pupnik | jott saves the day AGAIN! |
| 12:50.44 | jott | and indeed - fullscreen is much nicer without clutter :) |
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| 12:51.25 | jott | hm i suppose the maemo-hacker.org vte is the better one .. yieks.. forkeritis :O |
| 12:51.52 | jott | hmm no looks older |
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| 12:52.59 | cyberholic | Oh, another question: can i remote control a cam inside a n800 device without the user knowing and noticing it? *harrrrrrrrrrrr* |
| 12:53.17 | cyberholic | *just kidding* |
| 12:53.45 | glass | if you get the user to install sw why not... |
| 12:53.57 | cyberholic | What is the *nix command to eject the camera on the n800 automaticly? |
| 12:55.14 | GeneralAntilles | You need a center-print "OPEN THE CAMERA NOW OR YOUR N800 WILL EXPLODE" |
| 12:55.28 | GeneralAntilles | Camera/pressure release valve. |
| 12:56.09 | cyberholic | looool |
| 12:56.54 | helpmeobiwan | gets back to work |
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| 12:58.15 | pupnik | does anybody know if i can make a menu shortcut to launch osso-xterm in fullscreen? |
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| 13:02.44 | pupnik | grr |
| 13:02.52 | pupnik | and gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/xterm/font_size -t int 12 don't work |
| 13:03.04 | cyberholic | i am sorry that i can not be of any help to you pupnik :( |
| 13:03.27 | cyberholic | *ARGH* ... ok... the funpix mojo at mojocafe.net has just started! hihi...... |
| 13:03.57 | pupnik | hehe |
| 13:04.02 | pupnik | the key *is* an integer |
| 13:04.06 | pupnik | and the value should be twelve |
| 13:05.32 | ertwroc | hi, do you try to compile c library with native code for java? |
| 13:06.45 | jott | pupnik: works here :O.. maybe your font is already at 12 or it does not support size 12 ... |
| 13:07.06 | pupnik | nm i see something strange |
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| 13:07.24 | pupnik | does work though - i just need to set size to 8 |
| 13:07.29 | jott | still the vte is broken :(... thought inz pushed this to svn |
| 13:08.05 | aquatix | !slap adobe reader |
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| 13:08.18 | aquatix | if i close one window, it closes all pdf's |
| 13:08.21 | aquatix | stupid windows app |
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| 13:08.34 | aquatix | wants to go home, use his linux machine again |
| 13:08.59 | jott | hands aquatix a live cd :) |
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| 13:11.58 | Navi | woo |
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| 13:12.42 | ertwroc | Anyone tryed to compile jni code for maemo? |
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| 13:14.21 | jott | ertwroc: the guys from evolvis/jalimo did.. |
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| 13:15.19 | ertwroc | jott: thanks |
| 13:16.04 | jott | ertwroc: https://wiki.evolvis.org/jalimo/index.php/Maemo for some little heads up |
| 13:17.24 | jott | i suppose you could look at their oe recipes |
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| 13:20.39 | mbuf | where is the link to upload ssh public key to garage.maemo.org? i am not able to find it in My Page -> Account Maintenancy |
| 13:20.50 | mbuf | *Maintenance |
| 13:20.55 | aquatix | jott: heh, i make those ;) |
| 13:21.02 | aquatix | but then i can't join the network here |
| 13:23.31 | X-Fade_ | mbuf: What is your username on garage? |
| 13:23.53 | Italodance | hey guys do u have hildon-libs0 (>= 0.12.20-1), libdbus -1-2 (>=0.61)? |
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| 13:24.16 | mbuf | X-Fade_, "shakthimaan" |
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| 13:25.29 | X-Fade_ | mbuf: Ok, you shoud receive a mail from garage with instructions. |
| 13:25.38 | mbuf | X-Fade_, thanks! |
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| 13:27.52 | Italodance | hellllloooo |
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| 13:28.36 | johnx | Italodance, I don't. look on gronmayer.com/it |
| 13:28.50 | X-Fade_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:28.52 | X-Fade_ | ;) |
| 13:28.55 | cyberholic | lol |
| 13:29.37 | Italodance | johnx ok |
| 13:29.45 | Italodance | X-Fade lol |
| 13:30.52 | johnx | Italodance, look, I hate to say this but honestly maybe the N800 isn't the best device for you. You might really want to consider selling it for an ipod touch or an archos 604 or a palm or something that runs windows mobile. |
| 13:31.21 | Italodance | johnx lol |
| 13:31.29 | johnx | Italodance, I'm not kidding. |
| 13:31.34 | cyberholic | johnx: nah, that is not his problem. His country has an iP block why i can not download any stuff |
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| 13:31.41 | Italodance | johnx i know |
| 13:32.05 | Italodance | cyberholic yes i am installing offline :( |
| 13:32.16 | johnx | Did you at least get a wireless router yet? |
| 13:32.54 | Italodance | johnx yes i use wlan wifi on many places here shops/underground/big stores/streets.... |
| 13:33.42 | Italodance | my problem is only for maemo website and they blocked iran ip and i am trying to solve this with them |
| 13:33.45 | cyberholic | That reminds me of a story i once read about cuba: a boy with an old PC (AT tower) had commander keen on it. When he visited his pal, who also had an old PC, he took out the harddrive from his pc and brought it to his friend to play the game there... no disks or other memory storage devices at their place! |
| 13:34.04 | Italodance | look these: |
| 13:34.06 | Italodance | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2237#c4 |
| 13:34.06 | Italodance | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2643#c2 |
| 13:34.06 | Italodance | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3029 |
| 13:34.16 | Italodance | the third is mine |
| 13:34.24 | jott | Italodance: ever considered using tor or a vpn? |
| 13:34.47 | johnx | well, I'm glad to hear that you're pressuring Nokia about this. IP blocks by country are ridiculous. :/ |
| 13:35.04 | jott | (still pushing them is good) |
| 13:35.08 | Italodance | yes 1 of my friend here told me this for buy a VPN |
| 13:35.30 | GeneralAntilles | It's a legal issue, johnx. |
| 13:35.51 | johnx | s/ridiculous/ridiculous legal issue/g |
| 13:36.14 | GeneralAntilles | Besides the fact that it's not even sold in Iran. |
| 13:36.16 | jott | Italodance: ...tor is free and you can force it to use specific exit nodes in virtually any country ;) |
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| 13:36.31 | Italodance | johnx iran ip is blocked by nokia and not by my country |
| 13:36.56 | GeneralAntilles | To (legally) provide service to the country they'd have to setup a system specifically for Iran outside of the akamai system. |
| 13:37.34 | johnx | GeneralAntilles, it's not sold in Japan either, but that's where I'm using it. And if I couldn't easily install stuff I'd have sold it off by now, most likely. |
| 13:37.47 | GeneralAntilles | Japan != Iran |
| 13:37.56 | cyberholic | general: are you sure? |
| 13:37.59 | cyberholic | *looooooooool* |
| 13:38.15 | johnx | there are geeks in both who bought tablets and want to install software |
| 13:38.34 | GeneralAntilles | They can't legally provide service to Iran without setting up another system specifically for Iran, as the device isn't even sold or supported there, it doesn't make much sense. |
| 13:38.38 | cyberholic | gernal: wouldnt it be correct to say: Japan>Iran ? |
| 13:38.44 | pusling | what is required to replace the initial nokia boot image with a "pusling is the best" image ? |
| 13:38.48 | GeneralAntilles | Duh, cyberholic. |
| 13:39.05 | johnx | pusling, search for the thread on ITT that mentions boot images. :) |
| 13:39.10 | GeneralAntilles | For pusling to actually be the best. |
| 13:39.23 | GeneralAntilles | If pusling WERE the best, he would know how already. :P |
| 13:39.26 | Italodance | johnx i installed many apps games till now |
| 13:39.29 | pusling | GeneralAntilles: hihi. |
| 13:39.47 | jott | GeneralAntilles: that the device is not sold there is not remotely a reason to lock out users |
| 13:39.56 | Italodance | johnx but some apps like canola is very difficult |
| 13:40.16 | GeneralAntilles | jott, but legal issues are |
| 13:40.19 | johnx | Italodance, I understand the situation now and I do agree with you. |
| 13:40.39 | johnx | GeneralAntilles, legal issues are something to be worked around, not something to be used as an excuse. |
| 13:40.39 | jott | i guess the cryptographic WMD^H^H^H stuff is more of a reason :( |
| 13:40.44 | Italodance | johnx exactly dude i am glad u can feel me now |
| 13:40.48 | GeneralAntilles | It's not an excuse |
| 13:40.49 | GeneralAntilles | It's a fact |
| 13:40.59 | jott | still only under US jurisdiction |
| 13:41.08 | johnx | is there any reason why a community member can't setup a mirror? |
| 13:41.10 | GeneralAntilles | In order to support Iran, they'd have to setup an entirely new system specifically for Iran |
| 13:41.14 | GeneralAntilles | This costs time and money |
| 13:41.19 | jott | and if they would use some sane service outside the USA there wouldnt be a problem |
| 13:41.19 | GeneralAntilles | and since the device isn't sold there |
| 13:41.22 | GeneralAntilles | doesn't make much sense. |
| 13:41.33 | GeneralAntilles | I don't disagree that any of this isn't stupid. |
| 13:41.34 | glass | and not too many users are likely to travel to iran .. |
| 13:41.35 | GeneralAntilles | But it is REALITY. |
| 13:41.47 | GeneralAntilles | johnx, timeless has a mirror of Extras, no? |
| 13:41.54 | jott | and still nokias fault.. |
| 13:42.00 | glass | just use some proxy |
| 13:42.20 | johnx | alright, We're probably not going to convince each other my arguing. What is the way around this? |
| 13:42.24 | glass | buy some virtual hosting for few bucks if you don't know anyone you could proxy with |
| 13:42.44 | jott | glass: you can always circumvent such measures.. but thats not the point |
| 13:42.47 | glass | would probably be useful for a lot of other things too |
| 13:43.00 | johnx | Italodance, have you had any luck with a proxy server? |
| 13:44.47 | Italodance | GeneralAntilles shame! and i am sorry for u! |
| 13:45.10 | GeneralAntilles | Sorry? |
| 13:47.05 | Italodance | yes really what u rhink? |
| 13:47.10 | Italodance | *think |
| 13:47.10 | johnx | let's not turn this into a flame war. it won't solve anything. |
| 13:47.29 | Italodance | agggg i am agree with johnx...anyway... |
| 13:47.54 | jott | yeah we all agree that nokia should not use akami anyway :) |
| 13:48.03 | johnx | so Italodance, have you found a proxy you can use to work around this? |
| 13:48.51 | Italodance | johnx yes with proxy i can download from maemo.org and i am thinking to found an IP for my n800 internet |
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| 13:51.38 | Italodance | and yes the only blocked appilaction cataloage is http://repository.maemo.org/ here And the others are ok |
| 13:51.49 | johnx | that's good at least |
| 13:53.06 | X-Fade_ | Italodance: Try replacing repository.maemo.org with italodance.maemo.org, that should bypass the caching network. |
| 13:53.59 | Italodance | but i downloaded and installed many apps games like mplayer ukmp fbreader hp calculator maemo mapper mediabox mirage mtpaint maemo recorder doom quake from http://repository.maemo.org/ |
| 13:54.17 | Italodance | i need only canola 2 now...just that! |
| 13:54.21 | Italodance | anmyway |
| 13:55.15 | X-Fade_ | Canola 2 exists of a lot of packages. |
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| 13:55.27 | X-Fade_ | s/exists/consists/ |
| 13:56.02 | Italodance | X-Fade yes and my problem is on libetk ,it didn't installed .... |
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| 13:58.37 | jott | Italodance: is your ip range blocked on all akamai servers? maybe you could also try to force a specific ip in /etc/hosts |
| 13:59.18 | X-Fade_ | jott: If he just listens to me, that isn't needed :) |
| 13:59.31 | Italodance | jott yes only on maemo.org (http://repository.maemo.org/.......) and https://garage.maemo.org is currect here |
| 13:59.50 | Italodance | X-Fade yes i am trying ur opinion now... |
| 13:59.52 | jott | X-Fade_: ah indeed.. |
| 14:00.15 | jott | its not even akamai ;) |
| 14:00.22 | X-Fade_ | Nope. |
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| 14:01.00 | LoCusF | how can I find out the available gconf options for osso-xterm? |
| 14:01.25 | jott | LoCusF: gconftool-2 -R /apps/osso/xterm |
| 14:01.49 | ttmrichter | Is there some trick to getting omweather to accept a station? It doesn't list anything in its dialogue boxes (country, city, etc.) and it won't accept anything as a custom station. What's the trick? |
| 14:01.50 | X-Fade_ | Italodance: Just use the channel, pm isn't needed.. |
| 14:02.00 | Italodance | ok |
| 14:02.03 | Italodance | X-Fade_ |
| 14:02.06 | LoCusF | jott: thanks |
| 14:02.14 | Italodance | i use my nick from maemo |
| 14:02.19 | Italodance | http://italodancemp3.maemo.org/ |
| 14:02.26 | Italodance | and i could to enter there |
| 14:02.39 | Italodance | but where can i find repository now? |
| 14:03.14 | Italodance | infact what can it do for me? |
| 14:03.17 | johnx | I think he means in application manager replace the part that says "repository" with anything you want, like "weeee" |
| 14:03.21 | X-Fade_ | Just replace repository.maemo.org for every repository you have in your application manager.. |
| 14:03.40 | LoCusF | jott: how do I disable the scrollbar? |
| 14:03.44 | johnx | by using an "invalid" name like that it will get you around the caching system |
| 14:04.25 | Italodance | ok |
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| 14:05.40 | jott | LoCusF: "gconftool-2 -s /apps/osso/xterm/scrollbar -t bool false" |
| 14:05.51 | jott | you may need an more recent osso-xterm if it does not work :) |
| 14:06.12 | LoCusF | I do have it, fortunately, thanks jott |
| 14:07.58 | Italodance | guys |
| 14:08.01 | Italodance | when i want to shut down my n800 os2008 the dpad will blink...is it normal and ok? (it is exactly after update os2007 to os2008) |
| 14:08.18 | johnx | yes it is normal |
| 14:08.32 | Italodance | and How can i active the dpad blue light for the night in my n800 os2008? |
| 14:09.13 | GeneralAntilles | Plug it in. |
| 14:09.35 | johnx | Italodance, you can't easily just turn it on manually. |
| 14:10.35 | jott | isn't this also exposed via /sys ? |
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| 14:11.13 | johnx | jott, I believe so, but in this case I don't think that counts as "easily" :) |
| 14:11.56 | Italodance | Plug it in!!!!? |
| 14:12.12 | GeneralAntilles | Application Menu -> Settings -> Control Panel: Display -> LEDs Tab: Check "Device On". |
| 14:12.20 | jott | hehe depends on your definition of easily ;) (no objdump or kernel hacking needed = not easy ;) |
| 14:12.23 | GeneralAntilles | Then the light will go on during charging. |
| 14:13.03 | johnx | you can make it blink when the device is on and the screen is off in control panel -> display -> LEDS |
| 14:14.30 | pupnik | anybody know if i can generate a fake keybaord event from a shellscript? |
| 14:14.32 | Italodance | yes tnx |
| 14:14.35 | pupnik | i want to make the terminal go fullscreen |
| 14:15.26 | johnx | pupnik, xdotool can do that, but I don't know if anything already installed in OS2008 can... |
| 14:15.55 | jott | pupnik: might be easier to write a little python vte wrapper |
| 14:15.57 | pupnik | maybe i can generate a dbus event for it |
| 14:16.31 | jott | you could even add nice custom buttons :) |
| 14:17.35 | pupnik | mrhm, and the .desktop file can't specify full-screen... i think? |
| 14:17.40 | jott | http://earobinson.wordpress.com/2007/09/10/python-vteterminal-example/ .. |
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| 14:18.18 | pupnik | ok ty |
| 14:18.33 | jott | (not tried just first google hit :) |
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| 14:19.45 | lardman | afternoon all |
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| 14:23.15 | pupnik | xdotool key F6 works johnx ty! |
| 14:23.47 | johnx | cool, did you already build in scratchbox? I think I made a .deb of it at some point if you're interested... |
| 14:23.54 | pupnik | yep just built it |
| 14:24.04 | johnx | ah, nm then. :) |
| 14:26.50 | pupnik | that did it man... now it starts without crashing |
| 14:27.18 | pupnik | puts on Ren & Stimpy - "Happy happy joy joy" |
| 14:27.36 | glass | forced happiness |
| 14:27.53 | glass | i wonder what that helmet did in the series |
| 14:27.58 | johnx | I wonder if devilspie would play nice with matchbox... |
| 14:28.08 | jott | pupnik: what are your running? nethack? :) |
| 14:28.32 | jott | robotfindskitten? |
| 14:29.50 | jott | needs to build robotfindskitten as he thinks of it |
| 14:30.37 | pupnik | angband |
| 14:31.38 | jott | hm never played this.. similar to nethack i suppose?! |
| 14:31.54 | pupnik | yeah |
| 14:31.59 | pupnik | just a roguelike |
| 14:32.24 | GeneralAntilles | Anybody else have trouble with selecting a background image? |
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| 14:32.44 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/angband.html but thanks to jott and johnx it no longer SUCKS so bad |
| 14:32.51 | GeneralAntilles | The "Browse" button either freezes the device dead or causes a desktop restart. |
| 14:35.01 | jott | http://sse2.net/robotfindskitten_1.7320508.406-1_armel.deb :) |
| 14:35.25 | jott | only 27k :) |
| 14:35.40 | pupnik | reminds me of asimov's old stories somehow |
| 14:36.12 | pupnik | cool |
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| 14:37.30 | jott | hehe maybe i should setup an ami/x in uae or a pcboard in dosbox on my n810 and install some nice doors :> |
| 14:38.33 | GeneralAntilles | Can someone with more recent experience with GPE and erminig confirm or deny the validity of this statement? |
| 14:38.34 | GeneralAntilles | "I am sad to see all the newcomers to maemo told that the solution to getting a simple PIM is gpe and erminig - neither of which can be installed from blue pill mode through application manager, IIRC." |
| 14:39.40 | pupnik | cd |
| 14:39.57 | GeneralAntilles | irc: cd: command not found |
| 14:40.10 | johnx | GeneralAntilles, I thought I could install gpe calendar without being in red pill mode... |
| 14:40.20 | johnx | I guess it would depend on what source you pick for it |
| 14:40.22 | GeneralAntilles | That's what I remember, too, johnx. |
| 14:40.36 | GeneralAntilles | I just need some confirmation so I can give this joker the smackdown. :P |
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| 14:40.48 | johnx | there are like 3 places to get it from though |
| 14:41.02 | johnx | (yay, multiple repositories! woo!) |
| 14:41.12 | jott | i like the pimlico pim stuff :) |
| 14:41.24 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, it'll be particularly good once it gets more fleshed out, jott. |
| 14:41.24 | johnx | I do to in some ways |
| 14:41.34 | pupnik | In this game, you are robot (#). Your job is to find kitten. This task |
| 14:41.35 | pupnik | is complicated by the existence of various things which are not kitten |
| 14:41.37 | pupnik | hahahahaha |
| 14:41.49 | jott | this game is hilarious :) |
| 14:42.01 | jott | and over all completely pointless :) |
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| 14:42.56 | pupnik | i love it |
| 14:44.10 | johnx | heh, speaking of gpe, I just started gpe calendar for the first time in a week and it greeted me with a great impression of a fire alarm O_o I guess it thought I missed a couple appointments... |
| 14:47.12 | pupnik | jott what is the animation of the red squiggle approaching robot near top? is that "win" or "lose"? |
| 14:47.24 | pupnik | game just exits after that |
| 14:48.57 | jott | win :) there is no lose |
| 14:49.20 | pupnik | oki |
| 14:49.28 | pupnik | was just unclear about the win |
| 14:49.32 | pupnik | maybe it's more zen that way |
| 14:49.36 | jott | http://robotfindskitten.org/aw.cgi?main=home.rfk there is some nice story :) |
| 14:50.26 | jott | well actually you could give up by pressing ESC |
| 14:51.03 | jott | the poor kitten and poor robot will never be happy together then.. |
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| 14:57.45 | jga23 | anybody know how to programatically lock the tablet? |
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| 15:32.41 | TuxProbe | hi, am i the only one with a little slow extras connection? |
| 15:33.50 | TuxProbe | actually not free, but basic chinook repo |
| 15:35.20 | johnx | probably not. that seems fairly common. |
| 15:39.52 | TuxProbe | Fetched 2345kB in 8m13s hehe |
| 15:40.02 | TuxProbe | 20MBit connection! :) |
| 15:40.20 | TuxProbe | is what i bring down in 1? second lol |
| 15:41.01 | johnx | some parts of maemo.org are on akamai's caching servers...which *should* make things faster but sometimes ends up being kind of screwy |
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| 15:43.16 | FunkyPenguin | is there a place to request packages to be ported to maemo? |
| 15:44.16 | johnx | Here I guess, or internettablettalk.com/forums as long as you remember to be polite :) |
| 15:46.47 | bklaas | hi, I'm trying to get the maemo 2.2 gregale SDK (for 770) running and have run into some issues. Anyone around that might lend assistance? |
| 15:46.48 | pierlux | FunkyPenguin, what do you need? |
| 15:47.42 | FunkyPenguin | pierlux: ideally i would like tasque, the new banshee, tomboy and billreminder |
| 15:48.39 | johnx | I seem to have seen mumblings about tomboy for maemo at some point in the past |
| 15:50.03 | FunkyPenguin | well tasque would be super useful |
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| 15:50.54 | FunkyPenguin | and i know there are a load of media apps available already, but banshee really does knock the socks off of everything i've used and the new 1.0 release is even better what with added video support |
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| 15:51.39 | jott | well main problem with all those desktop apps is still the 800x480 screen |
| 15:52.18 | FunkyPenguin | possibly for banshee but the others shouldnt be too much of an issue |
| 15:52.24 | pierlux | FunkyPenguin, well banshee is mono based... I don't know if there are ANY c# apps running on maemo |
| 15:52.48 | FunkyPenguin | pierlux: tbh all but billreminder are mono based |
| 15:53.02 | FunkyPenguin | mono is available just no apps using it |
| 15:53.17 | pierlux | oh then it sould be easy to make it available for mamoe |
| 15:53.32 | pierlux | you just need to find someone who wants to do it ^_^ |
| 15:53.42 | johnx | well, compiling them will be easy, but they won't be hildonized... |
| 15:54.44 | FunkyPenguin | what process is required to hildonise them? re-write of the gui? |
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| 15:58.31 | bklaas | to bump/elaborate my question-- I have successfully installed scratchbox per instructions on the maemo 2.2 tutorial. i've created and selected a target, but I think it should have Xephyr available and doesn't. |
| 15:58.53 | bklaas | should I expect a /usr/bin/Xephyr within the scratchbox target? |
| 15:59.06 | johnx | bklaas, no, you install that on the host |
| 16:00.08 | bklaas | okay, I've got that, but the tutorial has me creating a start-xephyr.sh script that points to /scratchbox/.../usr/bin/Xephyr as well as a lib directory there |
| 16:00.32 | johnx | ah...hmm. |
| 16:00.36 | bklaas | I can launch a Xephyr window on the host, but can't connect scratchbox to it |
| 16:01.06 | johnx | I guess it could be different for gregale but you should be able to launch Xephyr on the host with something like Xephyr -ac :2 |
| 16:01.26 | johnx | then in scratchbox, export DISPLAY=:2 and run your program |
| 16:01.40 | bklaas | sorry, did that too. |
| 16:01.59 | johnx | and what kind of an error are you getting in scratchbox when you run an app? |
| 16:02.45 | bklaas | there are non-instructive errors about everything it tries to start: "Error loading /usr/bin/dbus-daemon", "Error loading /sbin/start-stop-daemon", etc. |
| 16:03.11 | johnx | want to just post the whole thing to pastebin? |
| 16:03.38 | bklaas | apologies, you'll have to tell me what pastebin is :) |
| 16:03.57 | johnx | ~pastebin |
| 16:03.58 | infobot | [~pastebin] A "pastebin" is a web-based service where you can paste anything over 3 lines without flooding the channel. Here are links to a few : http://www.pastebin.com , http://pastebin.ca , http://channels.debian.net/paste , http://paste.lisp.org , http://www.rafb.net/paste |
| 16:04.02 | johnx | :) |
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| 16:04.46 | jott | bklaas: have you started the maemo env with af-sb-init.sh start and do you run the application with "run-standalone.sh appname"? |
| 16:05.37 | bklaas | http://pastebin.com/m49bda6ef |
| 16:06.17 | johnx | wow...you weren't kidding about non-helpfull. Sorry I doubted you. O_o |
| 16:06.41 | bklaas | well, I'm under the assumption I did something stupid in installation, so feel free to doubt :) |
| 16:07.11 | johnx | hmm...the problem is, is that I don't have experience with gregale scratchbox, only bora and chinook... |
| 16:07.22 | bklaas | i should note, I have a running Xephyr window run from the host on display :2 when I executed the stuff in scratchbox |
| 16:07.51 | bklaas | yeah, I know it's dated. what I'm trying to do is help support some 770 users that have been left out in the cold, and I only have an n800 now |
| 16:07.58 | ertwroc | how to become root under scratbox? sudo, su, dbclient don't work :| |
| 16:08.10 | johnx | ertwroc, just fakeroot |
| 16:08.12 | jott | fakeroot |
| 16:08.28 | ertwroc | thanks |
| 16:08.46 | bklaas | my thought was that if I could launch OS2006 in software on a linux machine, I could get around having to re-acquire a 770 |
| 16:08.47 | jott | remember it's a fake root :) |
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| 16:19.21 | bklaas | maybe i can back up and ask a question that will decide whether I should keep flailing with this. What I'm trying to support is not a ported app, but a browser-based interface (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?SlimserverAndNokia770). If I get maemo2.2 going, will I be able to use the OS2006 Opera and have network connectivity via this method? |
| 16:19.51 | johnx | I don't think opera is included in the SDK |
| 16:21.04 | johnx | uhm, you might be able to rip it out of a rootfs intended for a 770, but I don't know how much hacking you'd have to do just to make it run |
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| 16:21.18 | johnx | could someone correct me if I'm off base here? |
| 16:21.47 | pupnik | happy happy happy |
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| 16:22.54 | aquatix | joy joy |
| 16:23.05 | aquatix | disappears |
| 16:23.29 | bklaas | johnx: thanks for the input. sounds like perhaps I should reacquire a 770... |
| 16:24.09 | johnx | you might be able to do what you want in the SDK, but having a physical 770 to use for testing will likely be much, much easier |
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| 16:26.02 | GeneralAntilles | tags johnx out. :P |
| 16:26.05 | bklaas | yeah, think you've convinced me of that. cheers! |
| 16:26.25 | johnx | eh? |
| 16:26.39 | GeneralAntilles | You were off base, I tagged you out. (baseball) :P |
| 16:26.44 | johnx | :P |
| 16:27.12 | CrashandDie | anyone tried out Moz Prism on Maemo ? |
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| 16:32.24 | X-Fade_ | CrashandDie: http://tonikitoo.blogspot.com/2008/03/since-while-ive-being-paying-some.html ? |
| 16:32.51 | CrashandDie | X-Fade_, yeah, well, it was because of that post that I asked the question ;) |
| 16:32.52 | pupnik | is there an easy way to see 'updated' packages when we run apt-get update? |
| 16:33.47 | johnx | pupnik, I don't think so, but you can use apt-get upgrade and say no of course :) |
| 16:34.17 | pupnik | have you built a SID player for xmms yet? |
| 16:35.06 | johnx | who? |
| 16:35.15 | pupnik | johnx |
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| 16:35.57 | johnx | uhm...no. I don't have any SID files, use xmms and I have never touched a C64 in my entire life. :) |
| 16:36.12 | johnx | s/use/don't use/g |
| 16:36.13 | pupnik | ok |
| 16:36.29 | johnx | any reason you asked me? |
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| 16:36.46 | pupnik | just a gues |
| 16:36.47 | johnx | just in case I might have? :) |
| 16:37.28 | johnx | remember, I'm pretty new to these com-pew-ter things. :D |
| 16:37.36 | jott | i've a sidplayer ;).. |
| 16:37.38 | jott | more a tracker |
| 16:37.56 | jott | goattracker |
| 16:37.58 | pupnik | i just donwloaderd 35k sids in a nice little zip |
| 16:37.59 | pupnik | haha |
| 16:38.31 | johnx | my "oldschool" format of choice is midis (and to a lesser extend spc) |
| 16:38.45 | jott | spc hmm |
| 16:39.05 | jott | mario theme? :) |
| 16:39.18 | johnx | more for chrono trigger's music |
| 16:39.28 | jott | ah chrono trigger.. |
| 16:39.37 | johnx | but only when I feel nostalgic |
| 16:40.01 | pupnik | ok now i want that music too |
| 16:40.14 | jott | hehe help pupnik to port the snes emu.. then you can go super-nostalgic :) |
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| 16:41.41 | jott | pupnik: http://sse2.net/goattracker_2.65-1_armel.deb |
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| 16:42.00 | jott | but i guess its better to port sidplay ;) |
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| 16:44.32 | pupnik | WOWWWW |
| 16:44.51 | qwerty12 | OMG |
| 16:45.00 | johnx | OMGWTFBUS! |
| 16:45.04 | qwerty12 | O RLY? |
| 16:45.19 | johnx | YARLY! |
| 16:45.26 | qwerty12 | NO WAI!!!!!!! |
| 16:45.28 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.28 | pupnik | __)( \/\/ )( _)( _)(_ _) |
| 16:45.28 | pupnik | \__ \ \ / ) _) ) _) )( |
| 16:45.28 | pupnik | (___/ \/\/ (___)(___) (__) |
| 16:45.33 | pupnik | blrch |
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| 16:45.48 | johnx | I think we skeered him away... |
| 16:45.49 | GeneralAntilles | <- proportional width fail. |
| 16:45.59 | qwerty12 | lol |
| 16:46.10 | pupnik | no one line started with a / |
| 16:46.12 | pupnik | \/ |
| 16:46.25 | johnx | aaah |
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| 16:48.29 | pupnik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoatTracker |
| 16:49.08 | jott | let's go oldschool! everybody get http://www.80stees.com/products/Party-Like-Its-1985-Super-Mario-Nintendo-T-shirt.asp |
| 16:49.10 | qwerty12 | That goat site scares me from clicking any link with the word goat in it... :p |
| 16:49.49 | johnx | feels the sudden need to buy a power glove... |
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| 16:50.21 | stulli | hello |
| 16:50.31 | kulve | jott: port sidplay? |
| 16:51.13 | jott | kulve: should be a straight recompile i guess :) |
| 16:51.48 | kulve | http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/sid-support/ |
| 16:52.12 | jott | ah already done.. nice :) |
| 16:52.47 | kulve | I haven't really tested it, but I was told that kilikali plays the sids. But it would need some tweaking to be able to select durations etc. |
| 16:52.56 | stulli | can someone help me with openbox problems? |
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| 16:53.18 | johnx | stulli, what kind of openbox problems? |
| 16:53.32 | stulli | installed it, but it keeps crashing |
| 16:53.39 | pupnik | nice kulve |
| 16:53.59 | stulli | and the left hildon bar pops up every 2 seconds |
| 16:54.33 | pupnik | kulve: what player can easily start up and random-play a big directory of sids? |
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| 16:54.48 | kulve | pupnik: none, I would guess :/ |
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| 16:55.00 | jott | what is big? :) |
| 16:55.16 | pupnik | HVSC |
| 16:55.34 | ertwroc | anyone know why java native library in C compiled in scratbox don't want to run in N800? |
| 16:57.39 | jott | pupnik: maybe sidplay with some shell magic? :) |
| 16:57.57 | pupnik | trying to build the xmms plugin atm |
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| 16:58.50 | jott | ertwroc: i guess without giving us any details - no. |
| 16:59.19 | kulve | jott: yep, for i in *.sid; do gst-launch foo bar; done :) |
| 16:59.26 | kulve | not random though.. |
| 16:59.34 | stulli | johnx: did you get openbox to work? |
| 16:59.56 | johnx | stulli, I never tried it. The only other mention I heard of it was it not working though |
| 17:00.07 | johnx | sorry, I can't help, but I need to get some sleep |
| 17:00.23 | stulli | ok, thx anyway |
| 17:00.24 | pupnik | thanks for the help johnx! |
| 17:00.39 | pupnik | you made the roguelikes win |
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| 17:01.17 | jott | hm busybox sh does not support $RANDOM :( |
| 17:01.56 | kulve | ..in maemo |
| 17:02.20 | TuxProbe | is it possible to embed mplayer in some sort of 'inner'-window? |
| 17:02.39 | jott | kulve: ah upstream supports it? |
| 17:02.44 | ertwroc | jott: I compiled it like for pc, then push it into n800 to directory wchich is on java.library.path, but when I runned my java app i get UnsatisfieldLinkError. I used g++ -shared -lbluetooth -o libavetanaBT.so BlueZ.cpp |
| 17:02.52 | qwerty12 | TuxProbe: Canola does it. Not sure on the hows though. |
| 17:03.14 | qwerty12 | Also Mediabox. Which is Python Open Source. |
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| 17:03.42 | TuxProbe | ive used xwininfo on my regular pc |
| 17:03.55 | TuxProbe | then mplayer -wid [#someid] meda.mpg |
| 17:04.10 | TuxProbe | put this pops up a fullscale window on my tablet |
| 17:04.21 | jott | ertwroc: sounds like it misses some dependend libs?! maybe add /usr/lib to the library.path? |
| 17:04.35 | qwerty12 | In scratchbox, I've been getting "dsp_protocol_open_node(): Could not open pcm device file /dev/dsptask/pcm3". Does pcm3 exist in ARMEL target or in that case, does X86 target have pcm3? |
| 17:04.44 | kulve | jott: I think I just saw an option for ash in bb's config to have that $RANDOM |
| 17:06.10 | Kypeli | Hmm, millos noi uudet sivut on tullut? |
| 17:06.16 | jott | ertwroc: or you do something wrong when invoking it ... |
| 17:06.34 | Kypeli | sorry :-/ |
| 17:06.50 | jott | hasn't done jni stuff for some years :/ |
| 17:07.36 | TuxProbe | lol strike that qwerty12 :) |
| 17:07.40 | TuxProbe | works ^^ |
| 17:07.45 | ertwroc | jott: I added /usr/lib and nothing was changed |
| 17:08.01 | qwerty12 | TuxProbe: lol, nice :p :D :) |
| 17:08.26 | jott | ertwroc: does the same setup work on your host? |
| 17:08.45 | ertwroc | jott: yes |
| 17:09.25 | TuxProbe | GtkTable->attach(GtkSocket->attach(GtkPlug)); mplayer -wid `GtkPlug.get_id()` media.mpg <_< more or less |
| 17:09.52 | pupnik | beh it's not easy compiling the sidplay xmms plugin |
| 17:10.40 | jott | ertwroc: mh no idea atm.. maybe try to increase the jvm verbosity |
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| 17:13.44 | ertwroc | jott: I got Native library 'avetanaBT' not found (as file 'libavetanaBT.so') in gnu.classpath.boot.library.path and java.library.path so I think I wrong compilled c code, but I did it exactly like on the host |
| 17:17.04 | jott | ertwroc: maybe also add it to LD_LIBRARY_PATH ? .. just poking.. |
| 17:19.09 | jott | or cacao (i assume you use it as jvm) is incomaptible with the javah calling convention.. who knows? :P |
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| 17:30.10 | pupnik | runs ./configure for the nth time |
| 17:30.54 | Italodance | is there an app for restart? |
| 17:33.08 | TuxProbe | nooo mplayer doesn work in my scratchbox env!? |
| 17:33.24 | TuxProbe | what does this mean: mplayer: error while loading shared libraries: libosso.so.1: cannot enable executable stack as shared object requires: Invalid argument |
| 17:33.24 | TuxProbe | ? |
| 17:34.03 | pupnik | no reason to run mplayer in scratchbox |
| 17:34.08 | Navi | lol |
| 17:34.21 | Navi | pupnik, what if he's building an mplayer frontend? |
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| 17:35.28 | Navi | pupnik, that opentyrian port is nice |
| 17:35.45 | pupnik | well.. opentyrian itself is |
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| 17:35.51 | Navi | Yeah |
| 17:35.54 | Navi | Great game |
| 17:35.59 | Navi | I used to play it all the time |
| 17:36.08 | pupnik | someone should fix the stylus and the pixel doubling |
| 17:36.35 | Navi | what's wrong with the pixel doubling? Doesn't fill the entire screen? |
| 17:36.50 | pupnik | causes some strange eerrors in the game menu |
| 17:36.53 | pupnik | works fine in-game |
| 17:37.12 | Navi | I haven't noticed anything |
| 17:37.18 | pupnik | oop i broke itt? |
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| 17:37.40 | GeneralAntilles | Broken here, too, pupnik. |
| 17:37.40 | Navi | broke what? |
| 17:37.59 | Navi | oh, right. |
| 17:40.45 | glass | hmm |
| 17:40.55 | glass | i want a similar port of raptor |
| 17:40.59 | pupnik | putszes more trying to get gtk1.2 stuff to build |
| 17:41.05 | pupnik | no open source i think |
| 17:41.28 | pupnik | if you can get adlib synth running on DSP glass, you can play it in dosbox |
| 17:41.36 | glass | yeah no |
| 17:41.41 | pupnik | hee hehe |
| 17:41.56 | glass | dunno if i'd care of else than the machine gun sound |
| 17:42.01 | kaatis | i'd love c64 SID on DSP :) |
| 17:42.03 | glass | *brrrrrrrrbrrrrrrrrr* |
| 17:45.43 | jott | pupnik: hmm why not map lcuk idea of dividing the n810 keyboard into areas as a joystick? |
| 17:46.02 | pupnik | i do this for one emu |
| 17:46.07 | jott | ah |
| 17:46.07 | jott | nice |
| 17:46.09 | pupnik | nicer than dpad |
| 17:46.18 | pupnik | qwe/asd/zxc |
| 17:46.23 | jott | yeah just pressed for fun one keys :) |
| 17:46.30 | mgedmin | no! h/j/k/l is the One True Keybinding! rogue FTW |
| 17:46.51 | glass | hehe |
| 17:46.51 | jott | haha hjkl rules indeed :) |
| 17:47.14 | glass | hows nethack nowadays on it? |
| 17:47.41 | jott | pupnik: so qweasdzxc for left? :) |
| 17:49.29 | jott | hmm maybe qaz=left we=up rfv=right and xc=down and sd=fire? |
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| 17:51.08 | jott | and rfvtgb yhnujm ik,ol. p;/ as buttons? |
| 17:52.10 | pupnik | yeah |
| 17:52.15 | pupnik | nethack has been updated to os2008 |
| 17:53.38 | pupnik | but with N810 keyboard it's almost nicer to run base curses version |
| 17:53.42 | pupnik | or bt kbd |
| 17:56.32 | jott | pupnik: what do you think about the mappings? probably room for improvement... |
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| 17:57.12 | pupnik | for nethack? |
| 17:57.19 | jott | no for joystick :) |
| 17:57.43 | pupnik | i don't know what you are getting at |
| 17:58.08 | jott | having multiple keys for the same action.. like pressing qaz all means left |
| 17:58.12 | jott | (on n810 keyboard) |
| 17:58.22 | pupnik | no, i want diagonals |
| 17:59.01 | jott | q+w up left? :) |
| 17:59.24 | pupnik | you confuse me |
| 18:00.21 | jott | just take the n810 and use your thumb :/ |
| 18:00.49 | pupnik | you mean thumb has problems reaching the top row? |
| 18:00.51 | pupnik | ld: cannot find -lxmms |
| 18:01.05 | pupnik | lrwxrwxrwx 1 maemo maemo 16 Mar 23 14:17 /usr/lib/libxmms.so.1 -> libxmms.so.1.3.1 |
| 18:01.09 | pupnik | -rw-r--r-- 1 maemo maemo 51936 Feb 12 21:33 /usr/lib/libxmms.so.1.3.1 |
| 18:01.11 | pupnik | ??? |
| 18:01.15 | jott | pupnik: no in fast games the thumb might fail to press a single key |
| 18:01.25 | pupnik | yes well true |
| 18:01.33 | pupnik | pandora is for fast games |
| 18:01.41 | jott | n810 might be too :) |
| 18:01.54 | jott | for now atleast :) |
| 18:02.37 | glass | pupnik: full kb is always best for nh |
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| 18:04.45 | jott | ok afk |
| 18:04.51 | jott | heads to a pub |
| 18:05.10 | pupnik | me too soon |
| 18:05.23 | pupnik | still trying to get xmms sidplay to build |
| 18:05.26 | pupnik | before i head out |
| 18:06.00 | pupnik | strange that -lxmms doesn't find libxmms, no? |
| 18:06.05 | pupnik | ldconfig -p sees it |
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| 18:06.36 | KotCzarny | add -L to the build script? |
| 18:07.13 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.14 | pupnik | ? |
| 18:07.20 | pupnik | or -Lxmms ? |
| 18:07.24 | KotCzarny | -L/usr/lib |
| 18:07.52 | pupnik | that's in there already |
| 18:07.57 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 18:08.02 | KotCzarny | link manually then |
| 18:08.13 | pupnik | ahh |
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| 18:11.10 | lcuk | hmmm - am i the only one to notice that the voices in map are ogg? i thought there was a problem playing ogg on the device? |
| 18:11.30 | pupnik | \o/ libxmmssid.so |
| 18:14.20 | pupnik | :( not working |
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| 18:16.38 | pupnik | boo |
| 18:16.54 | pupnik | /usr/lib/xmms/Input/libxmmssid.so: undefined symbol: gdk_threads_lock |
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| 18:46.59 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/xmms-sid-almostworkin.tgz almost working xmms sid player plugin ... hewwwwwwp |
| 18:47.05 | pupnik | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=161077#post161077 |
| 18:48.06 | KotCzarny | i think you're trying to ude gdk2 instead of gdk1 ? |
| 18:48.10 | KotCzarny | *use |
| 18:48.20 | pupnik | i don't want to :/ |
| 18:48.24 | pupnik | maybe i must reconfigure |
| 18:48.26 | KotCzarny | link by hand |
| 18:48.33 | KotCzarny | the last line that make prints |
| 18:48.41 | pupnik | ah ok |
| 18:48.41 | KotCzarny | save it in a script and just edit |
| 18:48.57 | KotCzarny | you can even try to link statically |
| 18:49.06 | pupnik | i see it i think |
| 18:49.39 | pupnik | http://pastebin.ca/959842 |
| 18:50.36 | pupnik | i don't even see libgdk |
| 18:50.50 | KotCzarny | yup |
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| 18:51.22 | pupnik | objdump -T /usr/lib/libgdk-1.2.so.0 |grep -i lock |
| 18:51.26 | pupnik | but it has no 'lock' |
| 18:51.29 | pupnik | only 2.0 does |
| 18:51.46 | KotCzarny | then you're compiling with gdk2 headers too |
| 18:51.53 | pupnik | ahchaa |
| 18:53.25 | pupnik | i was hoping for .sid music while i chill with teh beer |
| 18:53.31 | pupnik | and angband :) |
| 18:53.31 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:54.07 | KotCzarny | it's doable i think if the only errors were miscompiling and not some essential brokennes |
| 18:54.08 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:54.27 | pupnik | achaa gtk-config poitns to /usr/include/gtk-2.0 |
| 18:54.34 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 18:54.40 | KotCzarny | shouldn't it be gtk2-config ? |
| 18:54.51 | pupnik | this is a gtk 1.2.5 app |
| 18:55.00 | pupnik | xmms is |
| 18:55.16 | pupnik | so it's pretty strange from the outset |
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| 18:55.54 | pupnik | so i think 'free' , the guy who got xmms built might have this stuff figured out |
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| 19:09.22 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 19:09.28 | KotCzarny | i have built xmms too |
| 19:09.30 | KotCzarny | afair |
| 19:09.41 | KotCzarny | the only problem was missing glib1/gtk1 |
| 19:09.46 | KotCzarny | so i had to install them |
| 19:09.47 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:10.11 | KotCzarny | goes back to python tutorial |
| 19:15.22 | AStorm | xmms1 should die |
| 19:15.26 | AStorm | :P |
| 19:15.40 | KotCzarny | at least it's not medialibrarized :P |
| 19:15.56 | KotCzarny | medialibraries should die |
| 19:16.08 | AStorm | build us quodlibet |
| 19:16.10 | KotCzarny | or at least current implementation |
| 19:16.14 | AStorm | :) |
| 19:16.17 | KotCzarny | what's that? |
| 19:16.25 | AStorm | media player |
| 19:16.44 | AStorm | actually, audio player- |
| 19:16.54 | KotCzarny | Our Trac installation was DoSd, spammed, and then the backup broke. We're starting from scratch. Bear with us; the downloads, at least, are ready. |
| 19:16.55 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 19:17.36 | AStorm | in pygtk |
| 19:17.41 | lcuk | they were using doublespaced floppy disks |
| 19:17.46 | AStorm | with mlib, but not required |
| 19:18.02 | AStorm | uses gstreamer for playback |
| 19:18.14 | pupnik | ok i temp renamed scratchbox gtk-config to gtk-config-original |
| 19:18.32 | pupnik | and installed the libgtk1.2-dev which is now using the old gtk-config |
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| 19:18.52 | pupnik | so this is a better situation i think |
| 19:18.59 | pupnik | but still -lxmms is worrysome |
| 19:19.10 | KotCzarny | maybe it wasn't finding -lgdk |
| 19:19.24 | pupnik | :) |
| 19:19.29 | pupnik | i had a bad setup for the includes |
| 19:20.11 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:22.07 | AStorm | :p |
| 19:23.11 | pupnik | ~running~ |
| 19:24.05 | pupnik | dances |
| 19:26.20 | pupnik | thanks for the help KotCzarny |
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| 19:42.02 | afterburn188 | has anyone tried to install kismet lately? the eko repo doesn't seem to have it anymore and gronmayer.com/it is turning up nothing. ITT forums don't have anything either. any ideas? |
| 19:42.39 | GeneralAntilles | You sure about that? :\ |
| 19:42.58 | GeneralAntilles | http://tinyurl.com/2w3hlk |
| 19:43.52 | afterburn188 | i should refrase, nothing current, everything is around jan and feb |
| 19:44.02 | GeneralAntilles | Erm, what's changed? |
| 19:44.40 | afterburn188 | the eko repo is gone |
| 19:45.25 | GeneralAntilles | http://eko.one.pl/maemo/ |
| 19:46.03 | afterburn188 | yeah...now go look for kismet, not there |
| 19:46.19 | afterburn188 | he has it listed as "sorry, no longer available" |
| 19:46.32 | AStorm | :( |
| 19:46.32 | afterburn188 | so i was wondering if anyone kept a backup or knows of another repo with it |
| 19:46.45 | AStorm | I'd love it too |
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| 19:47.05 | AStorm | N810 is almost wardriver's dream |
| 19:47.27 | afterburn188 | yeah i found some discussion from march about downloading configs to get it to work |
| 19:47.43 | afterburn188 | i've used it before on my 770 and my friend has is running on his 810 |
| 19:47.50 | afterburn188 | i just can't find the actual deb anymore |
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| 19:51.47 | afterburn188 | any thoughts? |
| 19:51.47 | Zetx | Meh. I think I did something wrong. I just got my n800 and I charge it up for about an hour, then I take it out, try to turn it on, nothing. So I plug the charger back in and it doesn't respond :\ |
| 19:52.29 | tank-man | hold the power button to turn it on |
| 19:52.45 | GeneralAntilles | Did you upgrade it? |
| 19:52.47 | Zetx | how long? |
| 19:52.48 | Zetx | i haven't |
| 19:52.51 | KotCzarny | 2-3 sec |
| 19:52.52 | GeneralAntilles | I believe they're still shipping with 50-2 |
| 19:52.56 | GeneralAntilles | With has the old NOLO |
| 19:53.01 | GeneralAntilles | Which craps out on some of the OMAP chips. |
| 19:53.07 | GeneralAntilles | Actually |
| 19:53.08 | GeneralAntilles | N800 |
| 19:53.13 | GeneralAntilles | Probably shipped with OS2007 |
| 19:53.14 | GeneralAntilles | One sec |
| 19:53.16 | Zetx | i only turned it on once, with the charging thing on, then i turned it off with the 'shut down' option, or something |
| 19:53.21 | GeneralAntilles | I wrote up a guide to cover the whole issue. |
| 19:53.37 | KotCzarny | zetx: if you push power button does dpad light turn on? |
| 19:54.03 | Zetx | KotCzarny: nope |
| 19:54.05 | GeneralAntilles | This is what you want: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=148932&postcount=2 |
| 19:54.10 | GeneralAntilles | Just follow the steps exactly. |
| 19:55.14 | Zetx | ack |
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| 19:55.19 | Zetx | thanks |
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| 19:55.58 | GeneralAntilles | The old bootloader had issues with race conditions for the recently manufactured OMAPs. |
| 19:56.05 | GeneralAntilles | It's since been updated |
| 19:56.26 | GeneralAntilles | But Nokia hasn't gotten around to updating the packaging and bundled materials for OS2008-N800s |
| 19:56.32 | GeneralAntilles | So they still ship with OS2007. |
| 19:56.36 | GeneralAntilles | Thus, the power-on issues. |
| 19:56.39 | Zetx | ah, alright |
| 19:56.59 | GeneralAntilles | It's non-fatal and will never been seen again once you update to 51-3 |
| 19:57.52 | Zetx | thanks alot :D I was going to start panicking after a bit |
| 19:59.19 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 19:59.37 | KotCzarny | anyone tried changing python2.3 to anything else in sb1 ? |
| 19:59.44 | KotCzarny | barfs with: sem_post: Function not implemented |
| 20:00.27 | pupnik | i got sid music playing in xmms on the nokia http://pupnik.de/Timo_Taipalus__Abaddon-Funky.sid |
| 20:00.34 | pupnik | deb in a few minutes |
| 20:01.37 | AStorm | hehe, good for pissing people off |
| 20:02.26 | GeneralAntilles | Ugh |
| 20:02.36 | pupnik | i love em |
| 20:02.41 | GeneralAntilles | I managed to break my ssh installation so hard that I can't even figure out how to fix it. |
| 20:02.56 | GeneralAntilles | i can has diablo plz |
| 20:03.00 | pupnik | reinstall? |
| 20:03.22 | GeneralAntilles | apt fails hard trying to remove it |
| 20:03.25 | GeneralAntilles | or update it |
| 20:03.27 | GeneralAntilles | or anything |
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| 20:04.03 | pupnik | maybe you can extract the deb and just copy over the files |
| 20:04.32 | GeneralAntilles | is just gonna wait for Diablo. |
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| 20:05.59 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 20:06.11 | KotCzarny | python2.5 has the same issue |
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| 20:11.11 | KotCzarny | http://maemogeek.blogspot.com/2007/11/installing-qemu-arm-eabi-patch-into.html |
| 20:11.12 | KotCzarny | heh. |
| 20:11.50 | AStorm | what's the next hurricane after diablo? |
| 20:12.11 | Cptnodegard | how much is the retail price for bp-5l batteries in the us? they cost 80 bucks here |
| 20:13.08 | KotCzarny | original or copy? |
| 20:13.13 | Cptnodegard | original |
| 20:13.23 | Cptnodegard | (im guessing copys arent that safe= |
| 20:13.54 | KotCzarny | 29.95 is the lowest froogle price |
| 20:14.03 | Cptnodegard | o_0 |
| 20:14.04 | KotCzarny | http://www.wirelessground.com/nokiaoembp5l.html |
| 20:14.12 | Cptnodegard | nice |
| 20:14.15 | KotCzarny | 'regular: 79.95' |
| 20:14.16 | X-Fade_ | AStorm: Elephanta.. |
| 20:14.20 | Cptnodegard | also, is there both a 1300mah and a 1500mah version? |
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| 20:14.48 | Cptnodegard | nice... 30 bucks |
| 20:14.57 | KotCzarny | but it's a sale |
| 20:15.02 | KotCzarny | so may be old or something |
| 20:15.08 | kaje1 | I'm trying to update my n810 and it says I need to power on my device while holding the home button... which button is the home button? |
| 20:15.14 | GeneralAntilles | Elephanta, AStorm. |
| 20:15.18 | KotCzarny | even if 'brand new' |
| 20:15.19 | GeneralAntilles | Er, what X-Fade_ said. |
| 20:15.23 | Cptnodegard | the one with a house on it |
| 20:15.34 | GeneralAntilles | Swap button |
| 20:15.38 | GeneralAntilles | It's just below the camera. |
| 20:15.41 | GeneralAntilles | On the front face. |
| 20:16.19 | KotCzarny | cpt: http://tiny.pl/41pw |
| 20:16.22 | kaje1 | The one that brings up my running application list or the one that goes back? |
| 20:16.37 | X-Fade_ | Lol, I can order replacement BP-5L batteries for $5 on ebay from Hong Kong.. |
| 20:16.41 | X-Fade_ | That is bad :) |
| 20:16.51 | KotCzarny | yeah. replacements. |
| 20:16.58 | AStorm | kajel: back one |
| 20:17.03 | KotCzarny | probably half the capacity |
| 20:17.07 | KotCzarny | after first 4 weeks |
| 20:17.08 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:17.13 | kaje1 | great, thanks all =) |
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| 20:17.34 | kulve | isn't back one esc..? |
| 20:17.45 | kulve | and home the upper button..? |
| 20:17.47 | KotCzarny | btw. li-ion are losing capacity even without use |
| 20:17.49 | X-Fade_ | Nah, they are pretty ok. |
| 20:18.03 | kulve | but I've never used the home key. Just don't keep the charger connected.. |
| 20:18.08 | KotCzarny | but if they are stored with ~40% charge and in low temp it's nearly 0% loss |
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| 20:18.30 | GeneralAntilles | s/replacement/firebomb/ |
| 20:18.57 | AStorm | hehehe |
| 20:19.07 | AStorm | like those Sony batteries |
| 20:19.24 | X-Fade_ | GeneralAntilles: People are too scared easily. There are milions of replacement batteries from dodgy firms. You only hear about them every so often. |
| 20:19.45 | KotCzarny | x-fade: want to be a beta tester? |
| 20:19.48 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:19.57 | X-Fade_ | KotCzarny: Sure.. |
| 20:20.08 | KotCzarny | it may be one in a 100000 that blows |
| 20:20.13 | X-Fade_ | I know my charger is ok, so I'm not affraid. |
| 20:20.18 | KotCzarny | but i don't like the possibility |
| 20:20.38 | X-Fade_ | KotCzarny: That is what your fire insurance is for ;) |
| 20:21.00 | KotCzarny | sure.. |
| 20:21.07 | KotCzarny | i like my hands |
| 20:21.08 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:21.13 | X-Fade_ | Hehe :D |
| 20:21.15 | MangoFusion | aren't they all rejects? |
| 20:21.17 | Cptnodegard | the wirelessground offer was really good |
| 20:21.34 | Cptnodegard | accessorypost is even cheaper |
| 20:21.47 | KotCzarny | but look at the google rating too |
| 20:21.56 | KotCzarny | some shops that show there are scams |
| 20:21.57 | X-Fade_ | Hehe, check your battery. "Made in China" |
| 20:22.17 | kaje1 | Is there a simple mailing list that notifies members when a new version for the n810 is out? |
| 20:22.22 | KotCzarny | *show up |
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| 20:22.52 | Cptnodegard | if an original battery blows up its nokias problem |
| 20:23.03 | Cptnodegard | if a fake one blows up theyll just lol circles in their offices |
| 20:23.12 | KotCzarny | but they may sell you old battery |
| 20:23.22 | KotCzarny | ie. one that was on the shelf for a long time |
| 20:23.35 | KotCzarny | or simply take your cash and don't send you anything |
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| 20:27.53 | Cptnodegard | without a external charger (which i cant find) extra battery is pontless |
| 20:28.10 | pupnik | xmms under 10% cpu also |
| 20:28.49 | X-Fade_ | Cptnodegard: I have been thinking about buying one of those hand crank chargers. Can be useful sometimes :) |
| 20:28.49 | KotCzarny | cpt: then your google skills are puny |
| 20:28.50 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 20:29.13 | GeneralAntilles | Haha |
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| 20:29.16 | GeneralAntilles | RSI, here we come! |
| 20:29.18 | pupnik | i saw one for cheap from hong kong on ebay Cptnodegard |
| 20:30.06 | pupnik | ah some chiptunes get up to 15% cpu |
| 20:30.07 | Cptnodegard | meaning original charger, nothing on nokia.com |
| 20:30.12 | pupnik | nothing orig |
| 20:30.15 | KotCzarny | oh. orig |
| 20:30.16 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:30.20 | Cptnodegard | im paranoid about nobrand batteries :d |
| 20:30.27 | kaje1 | When I'm using the terminal on my n810, how do I get a pipe character? | |
| 20:30.36 | Cptnodegard | been burned with the psp on that one |
| 20:30.45 | TuxProbe | hmm with the newest ffmpeg installed on my n800 and trying to play an mp4 video, i get no sound :/ |
| 20:31.04 | TuxProbe | Cannot find codec 'amr_nb' in libavcodec... any solutions on the libamr for maemo? |
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| 20:31.26 | KotCzarny | tuxprobe: i think they need to be installed by hand |
| 20:31.32 | KotCzarny | while compiling ffmpeg/mplayer |
| 20:31.49 | KotCzarny | because of license on amr_* |
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| 20:34.22 | TuxProbe | k.. hmm might be possible to just create a codec and set path in a config for mplayer dont u think? |
| 20:34.43 | KotCzarny | i think they have guides for that.. |
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| 20:35.16 | KotCzarny | http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-docs/2006-April/007515.html |
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| 20:35.54 | KotCzarny | and i think it applies to ffmpeg too |
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| 20:43.07 | darklajid | Hi there. I've some DVDs next to me and would like to watch parts of them tomorrow on the go on my N810. Any tutorials how to do that properly for Windows or Linux? |
| 20:44.02 | GeneralAntilles | There are several threads on the issue on ITT |
| 20:44.26 | GeneralAntilles | http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=google-coop&cof=AH%3Aleft%3BS%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.internettablettalk.com%2F%3BCX%3AInternetTabletTalk%252Ecom%3BL%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.internettablettalk.com%2Fimages%2Fittwhite.jpg%3BLH%3A41%3BLP%3A1%3BGFNT%3A%23666666%3BDIV%3A%23cccccc%3B&adkw=AELymgUh7Cv9PUe0b5qPCUNPelWW_RFIHR8OWVZ74VffdlwMcR_8HjXcEc4JY-UtAw0OYsanzC8MxDE9lYZei46GLiYcFojHgDozHB4831Ie8hGMnLN63qMA3D4cI66iQRmHtaD6c-VAhf5 |
| 20:44.30 | GeneralAntilles | ohcrap |
| 20:44.34 | GeneralAntilles | Shoulda tinyurled that. |
| 20:45.04 | darklajid | Thanks, will try that |
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| 21:08.44 | sp3000 | or, http://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html |
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| 21:21.05 | jga23 | anybody know how to programatically lock the tablet? |
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| 21:21.35 | KotCzarny | i have tried looking for it |
| 21:21.40 | KotCzarny | but got sleepy |
| 21:21.46 | KotCzarny | and went to bed |
| 21:21.47 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 21:21.59 | GeneralAntilles | Use 100% CPU making random filesystem writes? |
| 21:22.12 | KotCzarny | ^ idiot |
| 21:22.36 | derf | Lock it manually and watch the dbus messages that go by. |
| 21:23.03 | KotCzarny | derf: he wanted an app that will lock n810 after hiding kb |
| 21:23.18 | KotCzarny | and unlock after sliding out |
| 21:23.23 | jga23 | exactly |
| 21:23.25 | lcuk | it does that already |
| 21:23.25 | derf | Sure... I'm presuming that sending one of those messages yourself will do that. |
| 21:23.33 | lcuk | if you lock it, then slide out it will unlock |
| 21:23.43 | KotCzarny | derf: which one? :) |
| 21:23.45 | jga23 | but if you interact and then close, it won't lock |
| 21:23.50 | KotCzarny | lcuk: but the locking part? |
| 21:23.50 | lcuk | if you do nothing else and just slide it closed again it will relock |
| 21:23.57 | GeneralAntilles | See powerlaunch |
| 21:24.07 | derf | KotCzarny: I don't know! That's why I told _him_ to watch them. |
| 21:24.09 | jga23 | I got the dbus signal working to alert when sliding |
| 21:24.10 | lcuk | no - i need it as well - its a PITA to have to pull device out of cradle each night to lock |
| 21:24.13 | lcuk | i would have it on a command |
| 21:24.47 | lcuk | i get the slide open/close messages as well - and the lock/unlock ones (or at least in dmesg) |
| 21:24.57 | darklajid | GeneralAntilles: Tried searching ITT, but "dvd", "video" etc. only give wrong/false results. Any better keywords for an alternative to the nokia media converter? |
| 21:25.12 | GeneralAntilles | The link I gave you before? |
| 21:25.18 | jga23 | lcuk: I get the messages, but I'm not sure how to invoke the locking/unlocking |
| 21:25.23 | KotCzarny | derf: can you sniff other apps dbus messages? |
| 21:25.28 | GeneralAntilles | There's a bunch of relevant threads in the google result. |
| 21:25.38 | lcuk | darklajid, nokia video converter is just like xyzabc video converters, it just takes a movie and converts it to a codec and bitrate applicable |
| 21:25.40 | GeneralAntilles | jga23, look at powerlaunch |
| 21:25.46 | jga23 | GeneralAntilles: looking now |
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| 21:26.08 | darklajid | lcuk: Probably with dumbed down interface for people like me, though? |
| 21:26.38 | Zetx | GeneralAntilles: Is there an estimated time before the charging mode starts again? |
| 21:26.38 | lcuk | are you taking actual dvds and wanting an avi/mp4 result? |
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| 21:27.28 | GeneralAntilles | Depends on a lot of indeterminate variables. |
| 21:27.38 | GeneralAntilles | It took mine about 40 minutes. |
| 21:27.53 | GeneralAntilles | You could try popping it in the freezer for 20 minutes or so |
| 21:27.56 | lcuk | if so, its not a simple process, look around for "dvd to avi" and see whats available - i havent ripped a real dvd in years |
| 21:27.56 | GeneralAntilles | then giving it another go. |
| 21:28.07 | lcuk | its simpler to hold dvd in hand and then find it on a torrent site |
| 21:28.31 | lcuk | dont go putting your blasted nokia in the freezer |
| 21:28.46 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 21:29.15 | lcuk | god, i can think of more fun things to do if you want to destroy it |
| 21:29.19 | darklajid | lcuk: Ripping a dvd is not a problem. Knowing the target format/resolution is, though. |
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| 21:29.30 | GeneralAntilles | ~25°F wont do shit |
| 21:29.37 | lcuk | take the battery out - wait a few minutes, pop it back in and see |
| 21:29.41 | KotCzarny | ga == idiot |
| 21:29.46 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 21:29.48 | lcuk | its not the cold thats the problem its the moisture |
| 21:30.00 | GeneralAntilles | Bleh |
| 21:30.03 | GeneralAntilles | Wont do anything either |
| 21:30.11 | GeneralAntilles | I've had condensation in my unit a lot. |
| 21:31.13 | lcuk | dark, try standard divx avi low bitrate (aim for about 400mb target file) |
| 21:31.22 | lcuk | if that works well, increase the bitrate |
| 21:31.25 | lcuk | experiment |
| 21:31.35 | lcuk | nothing apart from nokia converter is preset |
| 21:31.53 | lcuk | use your noggin :) |
| 21:32.22 | lcuk | puts GeneralAntilles in an icebucket |
| 21:32.31 | GeneralAntilles | 516-548px horizontal low-motion stuff works well in the 800-1200Kbps range |
| 21:32.34 | GeneralAntilles | It's hot here |
| 21:32.39 | GeneralAntilles | I should open the window |
| 21:32.44 | lcuk | fills it with molten lead |
| 21:33.02 | GeneralAntilles | 400x240 at around 1000-1400Kbps is guaranteed perfect playback at all motion levels. |
| 21:33.19 | lcuk | i did something daft earlier |
| 21:33.20 | KotCzarny | poor bucket.. |
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| 21:33.48 | lcuk | i put a piece of card along the middle of my screen and split my screen into a pair of 3d planes |
| 21:33.57 | lcuk | strangely enough i could focus on it |
| 21:34.12 | KotCzarny | o.o |
| 21:34.13 | lcuk | 400*480 per eye :) |
| 21:34.30 | GeneralAntilles | Witch! |
| 21:34.32 | GeneralAntilles | WITCH! |
| 21:34.33 | lcuk | actually kot, it was more like o|o |
| 21:34.36 | GeneralAntilles | Burn the witch! |
| 21:34.37 | KotCzarny | yeah.. |
| 21:34.44 | lcuk | Ni |
| 21:34.49 | KotCzarny | your eyes will hate you |
| 21:34.50 | KotCzarny | soon |
| 21:34.51 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 21:35.01 | lcuk | they hate me already i had to take off my bottle bottoms |
| 21:35.30 | KotCzarny | doesn't use glasses since 2003 |
| 21:35.40 | lcuk | straight from the bottle |
| 21:36.09 | lcuk | eylaswer? or just gave up andused eye muscle training? |
| 21:36.18 | lcuk | or old chinese sand bag method? |
| 21:36.28 | KotCzarny | i just don't use them |
| 21:36.30 | KotCzarny | (glasses) |
| 21:36.31 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 21:36.32 | lcuk | (thats actually something im gonna do) |
| 21:36.37 | KotCzarny | yeah |
| 21:36.38 | lcuk | are you focused tho |
| 21:36.47 | KotCzarny | i have heard about sand bag methos |
| 21:37.08 | KotCzarny | but it's only for + or - |
| 21:37.12 | KotCzarny | don't remember |
| 21:37.15 | KotCzarny | probably for + |
| 21:37.41 | lcuk | going to sleep with balanced bags (though nowadays it can use a strap) presses on the eyeballs to correct rugby ball short sighted ness for a few hours - enough to get through the day |
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| 21:38.13 | KotCzarny | - is when lens are too flat anyway |
| 21:38.29 | lcuk | +- ? i know short and long sighted |
| 21:38.30 | dtahtbot | lcuk: Error: "-" is not a valid command. |
| 21:38.35 | pupnik | shortsighted is good for tablet users |
| 21:38.41 | KotCzarny | - is short sightness |
| 21:38.47 | lcuk | is - |
| 21:38.53 | lcuk | VERY ------- |
| 21:39.00 | pupnik | there's a new motorolla cellphone with 300dpi display |
| 21:39.05 | KotCzarny | o.o |
| 21:39.06 | lcuk | can see the cells on the surface of his eye but not much besides |
| 21:39.16 | pupnik | hehe |
| 21:39.39 | lcuk | can see individual blood cells pumping around eyes sometimes :) |
| 21:39.52 | lcuk | actually going through capiliaries |
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| 21:40.23 | pupnik | how about noise in the visual field - like a tv screen or a digital camera in low light? |
| 21:40.39 | GeneralAntilles | Most people can, lcuk. |
| 21:40.55 | lcuk | it freaks me out |
| 21:40.58 | KotCzarny | life |
| 21:41.02 | lcuk | what you mean pup? |
| 21:41.02 | GeneralAntilles | I always try to focus on them |
| 21:41.05 | GeneralAntilles | then they piss me off. |
| 21:41.06 | KotCzarny | try living one day with eyes closed |
| 21:41.07 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 21:41.19 | lcuk | agree totally kot |
| 21:41.41 | lcuk | thats why i would never ever have laser treatment |
| 21:41.51 | pupnik | lcuk: like an analog television with no signal - that kind of noise |
| 21:41.52 | lcuk | WARNING: do not look into laser with remaining eye |
| 21:41.56 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 21:42.01 | KotCzarny | that's not therapy |
| 21:42.03 | pupnik | curious if others notice that |
| 21:42.06 | KotCzarny | that's laser stupidity |
| 21:42.07 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 21:42.09 | lcuk | yer what about it? its snow - it doesnt send me batty |
| 21:42.11 | GeneralAntilles | A little, pupnik |
| 21:42.14 | GeneralAntilles | But it's not monochrome |
| 21:42.30 | KotCzarny | pupnik: black dots in the vis. field? |
| 21:42.39 | Paavo | it would be interesting to see the raw output from the retina, without all the magical signal processing and caching done by the visual cortex |
| 21:42.45 | lcuk | i get floaters occasionally, but not normally a bad signal |
| 21:42.51 | GeneralAntilles | Paavo, complete gibberish, I'm sure. |
| 21:43.10 | KotCzarny | paavo: google? |
| 21:43.20 | KotCzarny | i believe there was some work in that field |
| 21:43.25 | KotCzarny | with some success |
| 21:43.29 | jga23 | lcuk: I figured out how powerlaunch locks the screen....but I'm not sure I like it |
| 21:43.49 | pupnik | no KotCzarny let your eyes rest on a blank colored surface (light or dark) and see if you can detect hi frequency 'noise' |
| 21:43.53 | lcuk | powerlaunch? jga23 i hadnt tried looking, what is powerlaunch |
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| 21:44.14 | KotCzarny | pupnik: yeah |
| 21:44.18 | GeneralAntilles | I notice the noise a lot in low light conditions. |
| 21:44.25 | jga23 | lcuk: its an app that replaces the powerbutton menu |
| 21:44.28 | lcuk | pupnik, you really need to turn off your vandergraf generator before sitting in a darkened room |
| 21:44.51 | lcuk | jga23, link please that would be interesting, ill see if i can boil it down if its source is open |
| 21:45.04 | lcuk | ill make it just a callable command so you can add it to the normal app menu |
| 21:45.52 | GeneralAntilles | https://garage.maemo.org/scm/?group_id=364 |
| 21:46.04 | lcuk | ta jga23 ;) |
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| 21:50.01 | edugof | hi |
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| 21:53.22 | jga23 | lcuk: actually, I just was able to lock the screen, not the device... |
| 21:53.56 | jga23 | the screen is in /sys/devices/platform/omap2_mcspi.1/spi1.0/disable_ts |
| 21:54.25 | jga23 | but it's not a full device lock(dim screen, lock keyboard, lock screen) |
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| 21:55.05 | lcuk | its closer than we knew before :) |
| 21:55.46 | jga23 | true |
| 21:56.58 | jga23 | it doesn't help that my c++ is rusty... I'm coding in python |
| 21:57.54 | lcuk | thats ok, if we can get the code between us we should be able to get something running - im happy building the base app but know nothing about packaging or repos etc.. |
| 21:58.37 | jga23 | I need to figure out how to package an app as well |
| 21:58.55 | jga23 | I have a google reader app that I've had for months that I just need to package |
| 21:59.20 | jga23 | just seems like a lot of hassel to package an app |
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| 21:59.54 | lcuk | well, that was fun i just managed to reboot my nit by reading somewhere in sys/devices.. |
| 22:00.11 | lcuk | its not once you are in the flow - it just touches multiple areas |
| 22:00.43 | lcuk | same as a windows app expects to put things in certain places - just those places are like a foreign language at the moment |
| 22:01.44 | jga23 | it's got to be tklock_mode_ind or platform_kb_lock for the dbus signal |
| 22:02.24 | jga23 | signal sender=:1.3 -> dest=(null destination) path=/com/nokia/mce/signal; interface=com.nokia.mce.signal; member=tklock_mode_ind string "unlocked" |
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| 22:05.53 | lcuk | well i know where is changed to tell us if its locked or not |
| 22:06.08 | lcuk | its /sys/devices/platform/gpio-switch/slide/state |
| 22:06.26 | jga23 | can you write to that to change it? |
| 22:06.44 | jga23 | oh, that's for closed/open |
| 22:06.44 | lcuk | i just tried.. |
| 22:07.11 | lcuk | no, my keyboard is out but device is locked = closed :) when unlocked its open |
| 22:07.39 | jga23 | my keyboard is out, device is locked = open |
| 22:09.18 | lcuk | hmm i must have caught it partial then it was reading diff a mo ago |
| 22:11.56 | jga23 | theres no documented list for all the dbus calls is htere? |
| 22:11.58 | jga23 | there* |
| 22:13.10 | GeneralAntilles | Don't think so. |
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| 22:21.04 | ryoohki | is there a lvm from the n800 os2008? |
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| 22:28.06 | lcuk | ok, i can lock the keyboard :) ( thats step 1) /sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-0/0-0045/disable_kp (0=unlocked, 1=locked) |
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| 22:29.13 | KotCzarny | hooray? |
| 22:29.18 | lcuk | lol |
| 22:29.18 | KotCzarny | dbus is for pussies anyway |
| 22:29.22 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 22:29.54 | lcuk | no its not, its just not clear where all the docs are |
| 22:29.56 | jga23 | yeah, the screen is /sys/devices/platform/omap2_mcspi.1/spi1.0/disable_ts |
| 22:30.15 | jga23 | just need to dimm the screen |
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| 22:30.26 | lcuk | rm_you knows all about that |
| 22:30.42 | KotCzarny | someone put all those tricks in one place, plz |
| 22:30.43 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 22:30.43 | lcuk | and turn off sound |
| 22:30.45 | lcuk | and camera |
| 22:30.49 | lcuk | and speakers |
| 22:31.03 | jga23 | ehhh, maybe we should stick with the dbus route |
| 22:31.03 | lcuk | and wireless and stop the puppies across the road from barking |
| 22:31.06 | lcuk | and we should be done |
| 22:31.18 | lcuk | i agree entirely, im just browsing around |
| 22:31.24 | jga23 | gboolean powered_request_lock_device(Powered *server, GError **error) |
| 22:31.24 | jga23 | { gchar *ptr = MCE_DEVICE_LOCKED; mce_send_signal(server, MCE_DEVLOCK_MODE_SIG, DBUS_TYPE_STRING, &ptr, DBUS_TYPE_INVALID); server->device_locked = TRUE; return TRUE; |
| 22:31.26 | lcuk | its good to poke in the deep dark corners sometimes |
| 22:31.31 | jga23 | that didn't paste well |
| 22:31.43 | jga23 | I found where powerlaunch locks |
| 22:31.49 | jga23 | mce_send_signal(server, MCE_DEVLOCK_MODE_SIG, DBUS_TYPE_STRING, &ptr, DBUS_TYPE_INVALID); |
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| 22:32.14 | cyberholic | buenas noches everyone :) |
| 22:32.16 | KotCzarny | dbus_type_invalid ? lol |
| 22:32.20 | lcuk | damn dev-c++ wasnt bringing up any results specific for "lock".. |
| 22:32.47 | jga23 | gboolean powered_request_lock_device(Powered *server, GError **error) |
| 22:33.03 | CrashandDie | anyone know what happened to the fbreader maemo repo ? |
| 22:33.13 | elb | it crashed and died |
| 22:33.19 | CrashandDie | heh |
| 22:33.28 | lcuk | its still avail from central though |
| 22:33.33 | lcuk | isnt it? |
| 22:34.12 | CrashandDie | lcuk, that for me ? |
| 22:34.32 | lcuk | yer - i thought i originally got it from maemo.org before i added the specific repo |
| 22:34.59 | CrashandDie | well I dunno, I'm just trying to apt-get install bzip2 and it fails miserably |
| 22:35.33 | CrashandDie | 404 a bit earlier, and now 302 permanently moved |
| 22:36.18 | lcuk | yer, but the bzip is avail |
| 22:36.18 | lcuk | http://fbreader.org/maemo/pool/user/b/bzip2/libbz2-1.0_1.0.3-2_armel.deb |
| 22:36.53 | CrashandDie | yeah but that's the library |
| 22:37.18 | lcuk | yer i know, that means its more a cockup in their repo than a big problem |
| 22:37.37 | CrashandDie | oh, right |
| 22:38.02 | lcuk | tbh, it sounds like they may have rebuilt their server or restored from a backup or something |
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| 22:38.43 | CrashandDie | where the hell am I gonna get bunzippy now :( |
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| 22:39.27 | lcuk | if you install bzip2 from the deb wont apt know that its already installed and not fail miserably .. |
| 22:40.10 | CrashandDie | eh ? |
| 22:40.16 | CrashandDie | Well I don't have bzip installed |
| 22:41.16 | CrashandDie | hmm |
| 22:41.17 | lcuk | yes, so download it from the link i just provided |
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| 22:41.35 | lcuk | install it manually (double click from the file manager) |
| 22:42.05 | lcuk | then run your other install and when it says "do i have bzip installed apt will say "yes" and you can continue... |
| 22:44.48 | cyberholic | GEEEEEEEEESUS christ! I have just checked mibbit.com and that is WONDERFUL! |
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| 22:45.22 | pupnik | what is it? |
| 22:45.28 | lcuk | hmmmm ircatwork.com |
| 22:45.53 | lcuk | knew it sounded familiar - mibbit its a web based ircclient |
| 22:45.57 | cyberholic | pupnik: an ajax irc chat... that is way much easier for non-irc-knowers to join a channel like this one. |
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| 22:46.13 | pupnik | hmm ircatwork.com used to look a lot simpler |
| 22:46.25 | lcuk | yer, recently changed to mibbit |
| 22:46.48 | lcuk | certainly sometime since december - i start it was old style, then recently they switched |
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| 22:47.40 | lukeskywalker | is looking for his father |
| 22:47.53 | cyberholic | Hey people, can i suggest a project in here to hear what you think about it!? |
| 22:48.02 | CrashandDie | sure |
| 22:48.11 | CrashandDie | lcuk, dunno the magic behind that, but it worked, thanks |
| 22:48.18 | lcuk | why not, i use this place as my blog - so you can as well :) |
| 22:48.25 | cyberholic | lol |
| 22:49.02 | lcuk | CrashandDie, :) no magic involved we just saved apt-get from having to search the internet for a list of files. you already had them installed on your computer (done manually) |
| 22:49.46 | CrashandDie | lcuk, well, the thing is, I only manually installed libbz2 |
| 22:49.47 | cyberholic | Mibbit just brought me to this idea: imagine you are a dumb user who just bought the n800 or n810. You turn it on and there is a button on the screen saying "MAEMO CHAT". You press it and a chat window opens like a very very VERY simple IRC chat window so you can instantly start to chat.... what do you think? |
| 22:50.00 | CrashandDie | lcdd, which in my mind, is completely different than the bzip2 executable |
| 22:50.35 | lcuk | ahhh, well its voodoo |
| 22:50.57 | CrashandDie | lcuk, of course, bunzip2 didn't show up as an executable after installing libbz2, but I tried apting bzip2 again, and magic, it worked |
| 22:51.00 | CrashandDie | so yeah, that's magic |
| 22:51.12 | lcuk | cyberholic, it would be great. but nokia would have to change the default tableteer link |
| 22:51.22 | lcuk | and ifiak that has a forum |
| 22:51.43 | lcuk | or whatever the acronym is |
| 22:52.23 | cyberholic | lcuk: but a chat has more value then a forum. In this channel are constantly an average of 150 people and on nokia-talk only about 5. But such an option would be very helpfull to people who start using the device. |
| 22:52.44 | lcuk | nokia could very easily right now convert the tableteer website to include an irc zone on the initial page (using mibbit like control) |
| 22:53.08 | cyberholic | lcuk: exactly! That's what i think. |
| 22:53.25 | elb | Gnome used to have a dialog like that |
| 22:53.33 | elb | it sucked, big time |
| 22:53.36 | lcuk | lol |
| 22:53.38 | cyberholic | but you shouldnt call it IRC or so because for ordinary users IRC is like ASCII or HEX..... weeeeeird ;) |
| 22:53.44 | elb | you got a ton of people who were like IS THIS THING ON? |
| 22:53.50 | lcuk | "welcome to nokia live support, how can i help you today" |
| 22:54.44 | cyberholic | elb: yeah, that`s why you should be able to choose between "maemo channel" and "nokia channel" (that reminds me of paltalk were people were constantly asking "is my microfone on? Hello? Anybody can hear me? HELLLLOOO"? lol) |
| 22:54.45 | glass | wouldn't want to be on that channel.. |
| 22:55.22 | elb | I'm trying to remmber what exactly it was that had that dialog, gnome doesn't seem quite right |
| 22:55.27 | lcuk | yer im thinking the same - its a launch room. has anyone ever played "There" or any other mmorpg which has an induction area? |
| 22:55.32 | cyberholic | glass: i would - to bring the masses to the advantages of the device. Even if i know that there would be trillions of "Italodance"-a-likes. |
| 22:55.41 | elb | but something had a right-up-front icon to click on that opened an IRC "client" which joined exactly one room |
| 22:55.52 | lcuk | AOL HELL |
| 22:56.00 | lcuk | N00B CENTRAL? |
| 22:56.03 | cyberholic | elb: THATs what i am talking about. |
| 22:56.07 | cyberholic | lcuk: lol! |
| 22:56.37 | glass | lcuk: exactly |
| 22:57.06 | lcuk | cyberholic, actually after speaking to some people and discussing the options, i think you should burn in hell, the idea will not work and you should unplug from the internet now for suggesting it :P:P:P (unless you are gonna personally moderate it) |
| 22:57.38 | cyberholic | lcuk: have you ever heard of the IT-Crowd? |
| 22:57.38 | lcuk | we cannot have any more aol folks in here ;) |
| 22:57.44 | lcuk | yes |
| 22:57.54 | cyberholic | Have you tried to turn it on and off again? |
| 22:57.59 | cyberholic | *looooooooooooooool* |
| 22:58.16 | cyberholic | lcuk: have you seen both seasons? |
| 22:58.17 | lcuk | -straightface- |
| 22:58.38 | lcuk | no, i saw enough that surprisingly i didnt like it |
| 22:58.53 | cyberholic | really? I luved it. |
| 22:59.01 | lcuk | red dwarf is comedy, IT-Crowd seemed to try too hard |
| 22:59.35 | lcuk | who reads dailywtf? |
| 22:59.41 | cyberholic | *ill google for red dwarf now" |
| 22:59.58 | glass | lcuk: sometimes |
| 23:00.04 | glass | when i'm bored on a train usually |
| 23:00.18 | lcuk | have you seen this attempt at a comic? |
| 23:00.34 | lcuk | manditary fun day - anyway, itcrows is just as crap |
| 23:01.08 | lcuk | (the comic is so bad, the best part of it is the photoshopped replacements in the comments after) |
| 23:02.22 | lcuk | i think i need to attempt some real code |
| 23:02.25 | lcuk | back later |
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| 23:02.46 | cyberholic | comic? well i prefer http://www.myextralife.com |
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| 23:11.37 | CrashandDie | I want prism on my n810 :( |
| 23:12.31 | KotCzarny | usb? |
| 23:12.40 | KotCzarny | sdio ? |
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| 23:13.52 | cyberholic | crash: whats prism? |
| 23:14.51 | CrashandDie | cyberholic, the ability to create offline clones of online webapps |
| 23:14.57 | CrashandDie | cyberholic, gmail, stuff like that |
| 23:15.01 | KotCzarny | ahm |
| 23:15.08 | cyberholic | ah, ok! |
| 23:15.13 | KotCzarny | prism is a wifi chipset too |
| 23:15.14 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 23:15.18 | CrashandDie | yeah, that too |
| 23:15.26 | lcuk | and its a glass surface |
| 23:15.32 | CrashandDie | not a surface |
| 23:15.44 | KotCzarny | shape |
| 23:15.49 | lcuk | ok a shaped piece of glass which reflects and reflacts light |
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| 23:16.00 | CrashandDie | anyway, if you want prism, you have to options, install xulrunner, and then build prism atop of that |
| 23:16.22 | CrashandDie | the other option, would be to find a firefox3 arm port, and install the prism extension |
| 23:16.36 | CrashandDie | but my guess is, we're not about to find a firefox3 ARM port :( |
| 23:16.40 | lcuk | isnt there an opensource flash player |
| 23:16.58 | cyberholic | i think so. |
| 23:17.21 | cyberholic | but what does that have to do with prism? |
| 23:17.51 | CrashandDie | cyberholic, prism is based on xulrunner, xulrunner is based on gecko 1.9 |
| 23:18.17 | CrashandDie | cyberholic, xulrunner is basically a very stripped down version of firefox3 |
| 23:18.30 | cyberholic | thnx! |
| 23:18.44 | CrashandDie | if you find me a .deb for FF3, I'll hug you ! |
| 23:19.05 | GeneralAntilles | Minefield has been available for forever, CrashandDie. |
| 23:19.12 | CrashandDie | minefield ? |
| 23:19.16 | GeneralAntilles | That doesn't stop it from sucking horribly on the tablets. |
| 23:19.40 | CrashandDie | GeneralAntilles, minefield ? |
| 23:20.00 | GeneralAntilles | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minefield_%28disambiguation%29 |
| 23:20.32 | cyberholic | does a php socket generate a lot of traffic? |
| 23:20.44 | KotCzarny | php socket? |
| 23:20.55 | cyberholic | sorry... my fault. ignore it! |
| 23:20.58 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:22.12 | CrashandDie | GeneralAntilles, hmm, thanks |
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| 23:33.13 | ertwroc | hi, I compiled under scratbox java native library exacly like on host, but after /lib/ld-2... --list mylib.so I got "error while loading shared libraries: mylib.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. What is going on? |
| 23:33.43 | KotCzarny | ldconfig ? |
| 23:33.51 | KotCzarny | -Lyour_path ? |
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| 23:36.06 | ertwroc | KotCzarny: invalid option -- L |
| 23:36.19 | KotCzarny | erm. that's for ld/gcc |
| 23:39.10 | ertwroc | KotCzarny: I don't understand |
| 23:40.06 | KotCzarny | nvm. then |
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| 23:46.44 | vlad_ | hey folks, anyone know if there is a directfb port for OS2008? |
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