| 00:00.18 | KotCzarny | navigate to you songs |
| 00:00.26 | KotCzarny | using dpad |
| 00:00.53 | killfill | hm.. dpad.. is that a program?.. |
| 00:00.53 | KotCzarny | it should show a gui |
| 00:01.06 | KotCzarny | it's direction-pad |
| 00:01.08 | KotCzarny | i believe |
| 00:02.07 | killfill | you mean the hardware buttons on the left?.. |
| 00:02.14 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 00:02.20 | killfill | ah.. |
| 00:02.51 | killfill | ok i see no ui. is there a way to make it more verbose?.. maybe im missing a dep. |
| 00:02.57 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 00:03.00 | KotCzarny | nope |
| 00:03.04 | KotCzarny | it should show |
| 00:03.10 | KotCzarny | if you can run it with a -d switch |
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| 00:03.22 | KotCzarny | it will generate debug file in home dir |
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| 00:03.42 | killfill | Error opening terminal: xterm. |
| 00:03.48 | killfill | got it |
| 00:03.53 | KotCzarny | hehe |
| 00:04.38 | killfill | ok i see no ui. is there a way to make it more verbose?.. maybe im missing a dep. osso-xterm is already the newest version. |
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| 00:04.47 | killfill | sorry |
| 00:04.51 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:05.23 | killfill | where is "xterm"?... its not in osso-xterm. :S |
| 00:05.36 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.40 | KotCzarny | echo $TERM |
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| 00:06.34 | killfill | ls: /usr/share/termcap: No such file or directory |
| 00:06.45 | KotCzarny | terminfo then |
| 00:06.45 | killfill | TERM=xterm.. |
| 00:09.13 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 00:09.39 | killfill | wired.. |
| 00:09.40 | KotCzarny | works for me, wonder if i installed anything special |
| 00:10.28 | killfill | you writed this? |
| 00:10.36 | KotCzarny | hacked |
| 00:10.42 | KotCzarny | it was only seeing mp3s |
| 00:10.48 | KotCzarny | i have fixed some bugs |
| 00:10.53 | killfill | ok |
| 00:10.53 | KotCzarny | and added mplayer support |
| 00:11.00 | killfill | cool |
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| 00:11.08 | killfill | weired |
| 00:11.10 | KotCzarny | so now it can play anything mplayer handles |
| 00:11.27 | KotCzarny | you're not missing ncurses lib |
| 00:11.37 | KotCzarny | otherwise it would stop with 'no lib' |
| 00:11.52 | killfill | on your n800. you can execute 'xterm'?.. is this a command?.. becosue i dont have it.. |
| 00:12.04 | KotCzarny | there's no xterm |
| 00:12.09 | KotCzarny | it's osso-xterm |
| 00:12.14 | killfill | yup: libncurses5 |
| 00:12.20 | killfill | ok |
| 00:12.26 | KotCzarny | but uses xterm terminfo caps |
| 00:12.49 | lcdd | KotCzarny: where to get this frontend? |
| 00:13.35 | KotCzarny | lcdd: mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/pfl/ |
| 00:14.14 | killfill | KotCzarny: ncurses-base |
| 00:14.17 | lcdd | thanks, will try it in a moment |
| 00:14.21 | killfill | was missing that. :) |
| 00:14.24 | KotCzarny | huh |
| 00:14.27 | KotCzarny | good to know |
| 00:15.37 | killfill | hey cool!.. |
| 00:15.41 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:15.44 | killfill | much better. |
| 00:15.59 | KotCzarny | yeah, media libraries suck atm. |
| 00:16.56 | KotCzarny | and as i said, you probably should map 'generate recursive list' to something |
| 00:17.04 | KotCzarny | otherwise it will play current dir/playlist |
| 00:17.28 | KotCzarny | whatever you navigate it into |
| 00:17.29 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:17.55 | killfill | what do you mean by map 'generate recursive list'? |
| 00:18.07 | KotCzarny | go to dir with subdirs |
| 00:18.16 | KotCzarny | then hit ';' on on screen keyboard |
| 00:18.17 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:20.23 | killfill | it doing something.. :) |
| 00:20.38 | KotCzarny | erm, how much subdirs are there? |
| 00:20.59 | KotCzarny | it's launching find -name mp3 . or something |
| 00:21.00 | KotCzarny | :> |
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| 00:21.09 | killfill | cool. |
| 00:21.17 | killfill | ah it does a full playlist. |
| 00:21.20 | killfill | nice |
| 00:21.25 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:21.33 | KotCzarny | now you see what's a recursive playlist is |
| 00:21.33 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 00:21.41 | KotCzarny | btw. it saves this playlist |
| 00:21.49 | KotCzarny | so if you start it again without args |
| 00:21.54 | KotCzarny | it will show it by default |
| 00:22.00 | killfill | any way to make the center dpad button does the same as the right button, i.e. enter, and not open the but keyboard in the xterm? |
| 00:22.02 | KotCzarny | can be usefull |
| 00:22.12 | killfill | ah |
| 00:22.24 | KotCzarny | killfill: yes, in system settings |
| 00:22.39 | killfill | /etc/playfilelistrc? |
| 00:22.40 | KotCzarny | text input |
| 00:22.45 | killfill | didnt find it |
| 00:22.49 | KotCzarny | and uncheck both i think |
| 00:22.54 | KotCzarny | no, system |
| 00:23.04 | KotCzarny | like settings in system menu |
| 00:23.54 | KotCzarny | or maybe not |
| 00:24.18 | KotCzarny | well, at least right dpad is working as expected |
| 00:24.19 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:25.37 | killfill | keeps open it.. |
| 00:25.39 | killfill | yah |
| 00:26.04 | KotCzarny | and i guess ncurses gui uses less cpu too |
| 00:26.05 | killfill | it would be very very cool, if i could do something with the song that is getting played.. |
| 00:26.12 | KotCzarny | you can |
| 00:26.17 | KotCzarny | use , and . |
| 00:26.23 | KotCzarny | for rew and ffwd |
| 00:26.37 | KotCzarny | as i said, it's all about mapping keys |
| 00:26.44 | killfill | ah sure.. |
| 00:26.53 | KotCzarny | maybe using hardware +/- ? |
| 00:26.54 | killfill | but i mean executing a commend with the name of the song.. |
| 00:26.58 | KotCzarny | ah |
| 00:27.08 | killfill | you know i have a mplaye daemon.. with a client on the living room. |
| 00:27.18 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 00:27.26 | KotCzarny | i think you can write a script for that |
| 00:27.33 | killfill | i could use the n800 as a "pre-listen" thingy.. so if i like the song, i send it to the musicpd daemon.. |
| 00:27.48 | KotCzarny | you see, mplayer slave is very simple |
| 00:27.53 | killfill | "was musicpd daemon.. not mplaye daemon.. :P" |
| 00:28.09 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:28.14 | KotCzarny | still you can write a script |
| 00:28.16 | KotCzarny | i guess |
| 00:28.28 | KotCzarny | see mplayer slave reference |
| 00:28.30 | killfill | and assign it to a key? |
| 00:28.42 | KotCzarny | hum |
| 00:29.01 | KotCzarny | i was thinking more like it will see what command it gets and acts accordingly |
| 00:29.11 | KotCzarny | it could run mplayer slave on it's own |
| 00:29.39 | killfill | yah.. got you. |
| 00:29.49 | KotCzarny | maybe wget control/address && play-local song |
| 00:29.58 | killfill | but i already have the whole musicpd infraestructure working.. :) |
| 00:30.20 | KotCzarny | as i said, it's flexible :) |
| 00:30.21 | killfill | where can i see the code of this little nifty app?.. |
| 00:30.28 | killfill | soi can get an idea.. :) |
| 00:30.30 | KotCzarny | just a moment |
| 00:30.36 | KotCzarny | but beware |
| 00:30.45 | KotCzarny | i coded inside it ;) |
| 00:30.51 | killfill | heh.. |
| 00:31.41 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 00:32.05 | KotCzarny | if you press '?' it will probably call youtube client |
| 00:32.05 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 00:32.16 | KotCzarny | i mean it first asks for a search keyword |
| 00:32.29 | KotCzarny | then gets some links, then plays it using mplayer |
| 00:32.29 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:32.38 | KotCzarny | but it's better ran remotely ;) |
| 00:33.35 | KotCzarny | ok, i put sources in the /pfl/ |
| 00:33.54 | KotCzarny | but it's current code, i don't remember what state it was |
| 00:33.54 | KotCzarny | :> |
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| 00:34.59 | KotCzarny | i use it on my pc too |
| 00:35.11 | KotCzarny | and it's very convenient |
| 00:35.22 | KotCzarny | [ and ] are prev/next song |
| 00:35.44 | killfill | cool |
| 00:35.46 | KotCzarny | r/s, repeat/shuffle |
| 00:36.05 | KotCzarny | i info(from mp3 tag) |
| 00:36.30 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 00:36.34 | KotCzarny | 'wants' |
| 00:36.46 | KotCzarny | you will have to declare it in few places |
| 00:36.49 | KotCzarny | afair |
| 00:37.04 | killfill | im just missing 1 thing tho... the dpad thing, is not controlled by the app right?.. there is no way i.e. to assign the home key to a key-command? |
| 00:37.20 | KotCzarny | ? |
| 00:37.25 | KotCzarny | playfilelistrc |
| 00:37.26 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:37.48 | KotCzarny | though i don't remember if it handles Fkeys |
| 00:38.07 | killfill | yah.. i see i can assign keyboard keys.. |
| 00:38.16 | killfill | yah.. i mean Fkeys.. the hardware ones |
| 00:38.53 | KotCzarny | but home key will be catched by hildon |
| 00:39.03 | KotCzarny | and other too |
| 00:39.24 | KotCzarny | in the same way center-dpad is calling osk |
| 00:39.47 | KotCzarny | maybe if you use non-hildonized term |
| 00:39.51 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:39.58 | killfill | anyway.. this is cool.. with this, im very little to have my desired music system working!.. :) (with a pre-song-hearing selection thing) |
| 00:40.10 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:40.26 | KotCzarny | get xkbd |
| 00:40.32 | KotCzarny | it will take less screen space |
| 00:40.58 | KotCzarny | and can have custom layout of the keys |
| 00:41.02 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:41.18 | KotCzarny | and ability to use images on them |
| 00:41.45 | killfill | sound good! |
| 00:41.59 | KotCzarny | 'sounds' |
| 00:42.01 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:42.06 | killfill | :) |
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| 00:42.52 | pupnik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=GRHJMf_jY8A Jeff Winter (Gridrunner, Attack of the Mutant Camels, Llamatron) google tech talk on the early days of gaming |
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| 00:51.00 | milhouse | Minter |
| 00:51.37 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 00:53.00 | b1ackD3ath | ello! |
| 00:53.07 | killfill | KotCzarny: thanks for your tips! |
| 00:53.17 | KotCzarny | http://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/tmp/IMG-knuttz_ueba_11.jpg |
| 00:53.17 | KotCzarny | ehehe |
| 00:53.27 | KotCzarny | killfill: np |
| 00:53.31 | KotCzarny | that will be 5 EUR |
| 00:53.32 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 00:53.42 | killfill | c'ya guysheh |
| 00:53.49 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:57.07 | pupnik | ooo jaguar emulator |
| 00:57.15 | pupnik | tempest 2000 |
| 00:57.22 | KotCzarny | were there any games for jag? |
| 00:58.01 | pupnik | http://www.mobygames.com/game/jaguar/tempest-2000 |
| 00:58.06 | pupnik | didn't realize Minter made it |
| 00:58.15 | pupnik | t2k has quite a reputation |
| 01:00.43 | KotCzarny | http://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/tmp/IMG-fun_noshit10.jpg |
| 01:00.44 | KotCzarny | :> |
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| 01:02.14 | pupnik | ? |
| 01:02.15 | KotCzarny | and this one is a perfect mod for a reainy weather + nokia too: http://mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/tmp/IMG-fun_noshit3.jpg |
| 01:02.16 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 01:02.23 | KotCzarny | ? |
| 01:02.36 | KotCzarny | *rainy |
| 01:03.25 | KotCzarny | and costs no more than a few bucks a 3pack |
| 01:03.25 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 01:04.11 | KotCzarny | reusable too |
| 01:04.13 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 01:33.15 | pupnik | http://www.yakyak.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=67230&hilit=jaguar+emulator nice rundown of how 'Firefox' optimized the jaguar emulator for the gp2x |
| 01:33.37 | KotCzarny | firefox? |
| 01:33.54 | KotCzarny | ah. |
| 01:33.55 | KotCzarny | nick |
| 01:36.51 | Luria | whoa dumb nick |
| 01:37.31 | KotCzarny | one should post about n8x0 to that list |
| 01:37.32 | KotCzarny | ;) |
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| 03:36.28 | *** topic/#maemo is development platform for Nokia Internet Tablets | http://freedesktop.org/Software/sbox2/Maemo | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | http://www.gronmayer.com/it | http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/chinook | webhost@maemo has been poked about bugzilla |
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| 04:13.44 | KotCzarny | http://www.xgps.ro/product_info.php?pName=gps-receiver-wbt201 |
| 04:13.50 | KotCzarny | precision <2m |
| 04:13.51 | KotCzarny | :> |
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| 04:14.22 | KotCzarny | Time to First Fix (TTFF) : < Average 3.5/34 sec. (Hot/Cold start) |
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| 04:34.22 | pupnik | http://www.zen35309.zen.co.uk/gps/ linux and wbt-201 |
| 04:34.55 | pupnik | http://www.zen35309.zen.co.uk/gps/n800.png on N800 |
| 04:35.11 | KotCzarny | cool |
| 04:35.15 | pupnik | nice find |
| 04:35.20 | KotCzarny | but it costs ~120EUR |
| 04:37.12 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 04:37.19 | KotCzarny | sale price of 95$ |
| 04:37.19 | KotCzarny | wow |
| 04:38.58 | Italodance | ummmm |
| 04:39.00 | Italodance | guys |
| 04:39.01 | Italodance | hello |
| 04:39.02 | Italodance | :D |
| 04:40.04 | KotCzarny | 106$ with a s&h, hum hum :) |
| 04:40.27 | Italodance | ummmm i always see my n800 has a wlan connection...where is wifi? i need to do somw setting? |
| 04:41.47 | johnx | there is an icon on the top right area of the screen, next to the battery icon |
| 04:42.57 | Italodance | hi johnx :D i am iDS :D |
| 04:43.19 | Italodance | johnx the icon can read wlan is it for wifi too?? |
| 04:43.26 | johnx | wlan = wifi |
| 04:43.36 | Italodance | :''D |
| 04:43.59 | Italodance | so i don't need to seetting somewhere on my n800 |
| 04:44.24 | johnx | just click the icon and select an access point from the list |
| 04:44.28 | Italodance | yes? on my control panel..? |
| 04:44.35 | Italodance | yes |
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| 04:47.33 | Italodance | ok how are ya? |
| 04:48.26 | johnx | pretty good |
| 04:49.19 | Italodance | :D |
| 04:49.40 | Italodance | n800 can read mkv files? |
| 04:49.56 | Italodance | x264 |
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| 04:51.52 | Italodance | ? |
| 04:51.59 | johnx | I don't know, I think it says in the instruction manual that came with it |
| 04:52.03 | johnx | or look on nokia.com |
| 04:52.31 | Italodance | yes |
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| 04:59.30 | Italodance | is there someone on games? |
| 04:59.50 | shackan | no |
| 05:00.23 | Italodance | really strange |
| 05:00.45 | Navi | Not really |
| 05:00.45 | johnx | what do you mean by "is there someone on games?"? |
| 05:00.48 | shackan | why? |
| 05:01.04 | Tama^2 | lol |
| 05:01.10 | Italodance | cos here is about 230 users now |
| 05:01.26 | Tama^2 | maybe he meant #games |
| 05:01.37 | KotCzarny | 220 sessions/bots |
| 05:01.40 | KotCzarny | and 10 users |
| 05:01.47 | Tama^2 | or something like that |
| 05:01.50 | KotCzarny | 5 of them sleeping though |
| 05:02.09 | Italodance | lol |
| 05:02.13 | shackan | oh i have no idea who's on #games |
| 05:02.41 | Italodance | nono lol |
| 05:02.44 | johnx | johnx is sleeping *and* a bot |
| 05:02.46 | shackan | and one of them typing annoying nonsense |
| 05:02.54 | Italodance | my mean is playing the games on internet tablet devices |
| 05:03.16 | Tama^2 | I am in #games now >.> |
| 05:03.35 | shackan | THE games? what games? |
| 05:03.50 | Italodance | like shadow walker doom... |
| 05:03.58 | johnx | shadow warrior? |
| 05:03.58 | Tama^2 | oh THE english ... |
| 05:04.00 | Tama^2 | xD |
| 05:04.01 | KotCzarny | hmm, who said today to go easy on non-native speakers? |
| 05:04.03 | KotCzarny | *grin* |
| 05:04.15 | shackan | what the hell is that? |
| 05:04.22 | Italodance | yes |
| 05:04.27 | Tama^2 | KotCzarny: you are just a pedantic nerd |
| 05:04.31 | johnx | you'll have more luck finding out about a lot of this stuff on internettablettalk.com/forums |
| 05:04.34 | johnx | just be patient |
| 05:04.35 | Italodance | http://internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17420 |
| 05:04.47 | johnx | and read a lot, then read some more |
| 05:04.50 | KotCzarny | i'm just unforgiving |
| 05:04.50 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 05:04.54 | shackan | tama , no that's me |
| 05:04.56 | Italodance | umm :I |
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| 05:48.40 | pupnik | I feel bad when things don't work ok for ppl |
| 05:49.00 | pupnik | But there will always be a percentage who will have problems, or no fun with them |
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| 05:49.31 | pupnik | So as long as some people enjoy it, that's good |
| 05:49.44 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 05:50.22 | KotCzarny | mirrors imagechan |
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| 05:53.55 | pupnik | good ones there |
| 05:54.49 | KotCzarny | 600 sucked, 4500 to go |
| 05:56.45 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 05:57.10 | KotCzarny | i have yet to find a gif viewer with animation support |
| 05:57.16 | KotCzarny | (other than fireox) |
| 05:57.16 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 06:00.28 | pupnik | gwenview does |
| 06:00.34 | pupnik | it's kde and slow to start |
| 06:00.41 | KotCzarny | huh |
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| 06:00.58 | KotCzarny | and something without heavy depends? |
| 06:01.12 | KotCzarny | xzgv and xv don't do animated gifs |
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| 08:33.59 | aquatix | morning all |
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| 08:34.47 | keesj | hi |
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| 08:51.29 | ccooke | Anyone happen to recall where maemo keeps wireless network definitions? |
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| 09:05.50 | ccooke | ah, got it |
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| 09:08.58 | AStorm | hello |
| 09:09.57 | AStorm | from which repo can i download basic tools like bzip2 and cron? |
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| 09:14.31 | wom- | AStorm: http://gronmayer.com/it/index.php?lang=en&system=maemo4 check if you can find a repo from here |
| 09:15.02 | AStorm | checked there i think |
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| 09:18.12 | qwerty12 | cron I found in a repo but you can use the tar file too. let me check |
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| 09:18.35 | AStorm | hmm, should be in extras... |
| 09:18.45 | AStorm | i mean, bzip2 |
| 09:19.02 | AStorm | couldnât find it |
| 09:19.27 | qwerty12 | cron's here |
| 09:19.27 | qwerty12 | http://maemo.daylessday.org/repo/dists/chinook/user/binary-armel/cron-4.1.deb |
| 09:19.57 | qwerty12 | bzip2 should be in a repo on gronmayer, I have it installed on my N800 Chinook |
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| 09:21.09 | AStorm | it should be in maemo-extras |
| 09:21.31 | qwerty12 | quick question 192.168.2.15 is the default usb networking ip right? from the maemo wiki, it says that. |
| 09:21.34 | AStorm | but i canât see it in app-manager |
| 09:21.56 | qwerty12 | Put the app manager into red-pill |
| 09:22.21 | qwerty12 | Generally, from what I've noticed, more command line apps show up in red pill |
| 09:22.26 | AStorm | hmm |
| 09:22.39 | AStorm | have to install some switcher |
| 09:22.50 | AStorm | from where? |
| 09:23.15 | qwerty12 | switcher for red-pill? |
| 09:23.23 | qwerty12 | you can do it straight from app manager interface |
| 09:23.44 | AStorm | huh? |
| 09:23.58 | AStorm | itâs a fresh n810 |
| 09:24.05 | qwerty12 | what switcher are you on about lol? |
| 09:24.42 | AStorm | idk |
| 09:24.54 | AStorm | i still know little about maemo |
| 09:25.11 | qwerty12 | ok, if you want to go into redpill mode: Go to "Tools > Application catalogue", click "New", enter "matrix" into the "Web Address" field, click "Cancel". Choosing the red pill will activate the red pill mode, obviously, and chosing the blue one will deactivate it. |
| 09:25.16 | qwerty12 | Do that in application manager |
| 09:25.30 | AStorm | mhm |
| 09:25.32 | qwerty12 | Then try searching again for available applications for bzip |
| 09:27.00 | qwerty12 | It's recommended to put the Tablet back into blue pill mode when you are done (personally, being lazy, I just keep it in red pill) |
| 09:28.40 | AStorm | thanks! :) |
| 09:28.46 | qwerty12 | np :) |
| 09:28.47 | AStorm | hehe |
| 09:30.40 | AStorm | lol, app man died |
| 09:31.04 | qwerty12 | It does that when too much apps are trying to be displayed... |
| 09:31.18 | qwerty12 | Just give it time and get bzip and put it back into blue pill :) |
| 09:33.09 | AStorm | got bzip, checking the rest |
| 09:33.33 | qwerty12 | oh right :) |
| 09:34.09 | Jaffa | 's App Manager died last night (in blue pill mode with just a couple of repos enabled) |
| 09:34.55 | qwerty12 | Lol why? |
| 09:35.03 | Jaffa | No idea. Seg fault type thing |
| 09:35.05 | AStorm | yeah, it tends to do that ;/ |
| 09:35.09 | Jaffa | First time I'd ever seen that |
| 09:35.43 | qwerty12 | I actually saw mine do it on the 1st day I got it. I added ALL the repo's from gronmayer & set it into red pill... |
| 09:35.53 | AStorm | www sometimes crashes too |
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| 09:39.40 | AStorm | nokia should use dejavu fonts |
| 09:40.46 | qwerty12 | I believe you can install your own fonts but I have no idea on how to do it |
| 09:41.13 | Jaffa | Put them in /home/user/.fonts. |
| 09:41.19 | Jaffa | ^ Step 1) |
| 09:41.23 | Jaffa | Step 2) There is no step 2. |
| 09:41.32 | qwerty12 | Lol, thanks :D |
| 09:42.16 | AStorm | qwerty12, there is a ttf-dejavu package in maemo-extras |
| 09:43.03 | AStorm | brb |
| 09:43.31 | qwerty12 | hmm, I may try it out then. But i remember installing that bytecode freetype lib in itt wiki, it made fonts nicer but it messed up my terminal keybindings. But I guess this is just fonts |
| 09:47.15 | Jaffa | Indeed |
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| 09:52.18 | qwerty12 | I'm looking at the dejavu deb for chinook, the fonts install to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu . Does that make a difference? |
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| 09:58.11 | Jaffa | qwerty12: that's the right place for debs to install, but as a user dropping in /home/user/.fonts is easier (no need to elevate to root privilege) |
| 09:58.34 | qwerty12 | Oh, ok thanks |
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| 10:00.08 | AStorm | yeah, dejavu sans mono is so much better |
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| 10:02.43 | johnx | hey rm_you :D |
| 10:02.51 | rm_you | aha! |
| 10:02.54 | rm_you | spring break LO |
| 10:02.59 | johnx | nice |
| 10:03.00 | rm_you | s/LO/:P/ |
| 10:03.17 | rm_you | still have one essay to write tho >_< damnit |
| 10:03.44 | aquatix | pft, breaks are for wussies |
| 10:03.52 | rm_you | anyway, it's 5am, gotta go to sleep so i can wake up in time to walk to the taco place before they close at 2pm :P |
| 10:03.53 | aquatix | doesn't have one |
| 10:04.03 | aquatix | rm_you: :) |
| 10:04.11 | johnx | wants tacos :| |
| 10:04.11 | rm_you | poor aquatix |
| 10:04.35 | rm_you | also wants tacos. still. |
| 10:04.49 | qwerty12 | wants chicken wings & chips :P |
| 10:05.04 | aquatix | just had breakfast sandwiches, shut up about food ;) |
| 10:05.21 | aquatix | :P |
| 10:05.24 | aquatix | aaaanyway |
| 10:05.32 | qwerty12 | I had microwave pizza for breakfast :P |
| 10:05.44 | aquatix | ah? any good? |
| 10:06.06 | aquatix | doesn't that become mushy? |
| 10:06.17 | qwerty12 | It's actually quite normal |
| 10:06.29 | qwerty12 | It just has cheese & tomato sauce in it |
| 10:06.47 | rm_you | http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=29.466279&lon=-98.492721&z=18&l=0&m=a&v=2 |
| 10:06.54 | AStorm | you people, eat healthier! ;) |
| 10:06.58 | rm_you | johnx: :P |
| 10:07.28 | aquatix | AStorm: as said, i had breakfast with some nice sandwiches |
| 10:08.03 | qwerty12 | AStorm, UK is the fattest country in Europe afaik, I'm upholding our honour :P |
| 10:08.39 | qwerty12 | Although, saying that, I'm not fat :D |
| 10:09.02 | johnx | rm_you, I don't think there is one close to me :/ |
| 10:09.07 | rm_you | :( |
| 10:10.09 | aquatix | feels thin |
| 10:10.29 | AStorm | heh |
| 10:11.11 | aquatix | is the thin kind of geek ;) |
| 10:11.14 | rm_you | johnx: you should label your apartment :P http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=35.441652&lon=139.633484&z=10&l=0&m=a&v=2 |
| 10:11.44 | johnx | I don't really feel a need to advertise where I live... |
| 10:11.48 | rm_you | lol |
| 10:11.50 | aquatix | heheh |
| 10:11.57 | aquatix | johnx: i wouldn't do that too :) |
| 10:12.00 | rm_you | i labeled my house for the hell of it :P |
| 10:12.07 | johnx | good for you :P |
| 10:12.15 | qwerty12 | Time to put on my ski mask... |
| 10:12.33 | johnx | qwerty12, cold where you are, or going to rob a bank? |
| 10:12.52 | qwerty12 | I'm going to rob something... |
| 10:13.04 | qwerty12 | My computer is loading up wikimapia |
| 10:13.05 | qwerty12 | ... |
| 10:13.33 | rm_you | lol |
| 10:14.59 | rm_you | meanwhile... sleep :P |
| 10:15.36 | aquatix | rm_you: hf |
| 10:15.37 | qwerty12 | Perfect..., you don't have a alarm right? :P |
| 10:15.38 | johnx | 'night rm_you |
| 10:15.43 | qwerty12 | good nite |
| 10:15.48 | qwerty12 | @rm_you |
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| 10:16.03 | rm_you | lol, i'm like... on the other side of the country :P |
| 10:16.19 | aquatix | don't underestimate robbing by proxy |
| 10:16.23 | rm_you | lol |
| 10:16.44 | rm_you | don't underestimate my father's shotgun :P |
| 10:16.47 | rm_you | sleeps |
| 10:16.48 | aquatix | heheh |
| 10:16.49 | johnx | telnet robber.example.com 8080 ; GET stuff-from-your-house |
| 10:17.01 | aquatix | wget rm_you.net/* |
| 10:17.05 | guardian | morning |
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| 10:17.09 | aquatix | or rather |
| 10:17.15 | aquatix | wget -rl rm_you.net |
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| 10:41.03 | Italodance | johnx are u there? |
| 10:41.11 | GnutoN810 | hi |
| 10:41.40 | Italodance | hi |
| 10:42.25 | GnutoN810 | Italodance, hey |
| 10:42.47 | Italodance | how can i contact to maemo website? |
| 10:42.57 | Italodance | wherer is their email? |
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| 10:45.51 | christefano | Italodance: there are many addresses for different things. to contact them about the maemo.org site try webhost@maemo.org |
| 10:46.04 | AStorm | blah, the default sip chat doesnât support stun |
| 10:46.49 | Italodance | thank u christefano |
| 10:47.01 | AStorm | need some client that knows stun. Any hints? |
| 10:47.03 | christefano | sure. good night everyone |
| 10:47.15 | qwerty12 | good nite |
| 10:47.17 | Italodance | i tried to download apps games with my n800 0s2008 but got the same problem here! WHY? |
| 10:47.30 | Italodance | my problem is this::::: |
| 10:47.31 | Italodance | Authorization Required |
| 10:47.33 | Italodance | This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials required. |
| 10:47.33 | Italodance | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 10:47.33 | Italodance | Apache/1.3.33 Server at stage.maemo.org Port 80 |
| 10:47.47 | AStorm | your proxy is broken |
| 10:47.51 | qwerty12 | @AStorm; is stun this: http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/img/acct/acct06c.png |
| 10:47.59 | qwerty12 | Because if so, rtcomm beta supports it |
| 10:48.05 | AStorm | hmmm |
| 10:48.17 | qwerty12 | rtcomm beta upgrades your built in client |
| 10:49.06 | AStorm | yes, that |
| 10:49.13 | Italodance | what's my problem? |
| 10:49.19 | AStorm | mhm, where do i get it? |
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| 10:49.34 | woodong50 | hi |
| 10:49.37 | qwerty12 | http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/ |
| 10:49.42 | qwerty12 | hi @ woodong |
| 10:50.05 | AStorm | mhm |
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| 10:51.35 | AStorm | :) |
| 10:52.13 | Italodance | :''( |
| 10:52.15 | Italodance | please |
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| 11:01.57 | Italodance | christefano |
| 11:02.07 | Italodance | the only contact is webhost@maemo.org |
| 11:02.12 | Italodance | ?????? |
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| 11:04.06 | Italodance | ? |
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| 11:05.01 | Italodance | notices@maemo.org |
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| 11:16.30 | johnx | Italodance, what page are you trying to access? |
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| 11:24.04 | sp3000 | afaict notices is reserved for a very specific purpose... |
| 11:29.57 | AStorm | still no luck with sip ;) |
| 11:30.09 | qwerty12 | :( |
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| 11:33.52 | Jaffa | Italodance: try raising a bug at bugs.maemo.org |
| 11:36.04 | guardian | Italodance: i tried to download apps games with my n800 0s2008 but got the same problem here! WHY? |
| 11:36.11 | guardian | what are you trying to downoad ? |
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| 11:37.34 | Jaffa | It's a problem with the maemo.org server which is why it's affecting you both |
| 11:38.04 | guardian | no i just copy pasted his "question" |
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| 11:38.18 | guardian | i'm fine, i stay away from *.maemo.org :D |
| 11:43.51 | Jaffa | ah Â:-) |
| 11:44.25 | qwerty12 | @guardian, Maybe use quote marks? :) |
| 11:45.37 | guardian | in fact i'm doing what i did when i used mirc on windows |
| 11:45.49 | guardian | it dislays <nick> [message] |
| 11:45.58 | guardian | so copy pasting that is not embiguous |
| 11:46.08 | guardian | however with colloquy on my mac; it's nick: message |
| 11:46.18 | guardian | thus looking like i'm talking to him |
| 11:46.35 | qwerty12 | Oh right :). I use mirc when I am in windows, x-chat in my linux , pidgin on my N800 :D |
| 11:46.37 | guardian | thx everyone, this is all for the lousy details of the day :D |
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| 11:54.44 | qwerty12 | I have a quick n00b question to developers, how to run a program from c code? I quickly edited it to this: http://pastebin.com/d29978fd8 and when I compile, I get this: http://pastebin.com/d791bd73f . Please bear with me, I cannot develop at all :( |
| 11:56.43 | BugBlue | that's not C |
| 11:57.12 | qwerty12 | c++? I cannot develop :D, I just want to make a change to the code someone else wrote |
| 11:57.37 | johnx | that looks like a shell script, unless I'm confused |
| 11:57.58 | pH5 | qwerty12: try system("xmodmap -e 'keycode 114 = Right' -e 'keycode 111 = Up' -e 'keycode 113 = Left' -e 'keycode 116 = Down'"); |
| 11:58.22 | pH5 | #include <stdlib.h> in the beginning of the c file |
| 11:58.25 | johnx | qwerty12, ok, give us some more details :) |
| 11:58.53 | qwerty12 | The code is here: http://sse2.net/rotate/rotate-sb-plugin-0.1.tar.bz2 |
| 11:59.00 | qwerty12 | @ph5, thanks, I will try that |
| 11:59.27 | qwerty12 | That's the original code, I want to change it so when you rotate, it rotates the keys too |
| 11:59.47 | johnx | that would be nice. :) |
| 11:59.52 | johnx | which file did you modify? |
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| 12:00.07 | johnx | rotate-sb-plugin.c? |
| 12:00.12 | qwerty12 | Yes |
| 12:00.25 | qwerty12 | I copied the xmodmap code out of Benson's shell script |
| 12:00.40 | johnx | shell script != C code :) |
| 12:00.50 | sp3000 | Jaffa: "try" indeed, bugzilla's not inclined to write in its db this weekend apparently :) |
| 12:01.03 | qwerty12 | I copied the command line :P |
| 12:01.58 | johnx | qwerty12, what pH5 wrote should work just fine. |
| 12:02.03 | qwerty12 | @ph5, many thanks, that line compiles |
| 12:02.09 | qwerty12 | yep, it works :) |
| 12:09.40 | qwerty12 | Thanks. gtg, bye |
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| 12:16.09 | Jaffa | sp3000: must be its time of the month. |
| 12:16.33 | Jaffa | Hmm, server probs do seem to occur monthly. Perhaps its sun-spots |
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| 12:23.18 | konttori | wom-: I've done |
| 12:23.42 | konttori | Sorry I was reading backlog and thought it was current post |
| 12:23.45 | konttori | nevermind |
| 12:25.13 | Jaffa | konttori: what shiny things are you working on at Nokia, btw? |
| 12:25.34 | konttori | Some I can say in public, some I cannot. |
| 12:25.47 | konttori | I'm working pretty closely with meta-tracker project at the moment |
| 12:25.58 | Jaffa | meta-tracker? |
| 12:26.02 | konttori | http://www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/ |
| 12:26.33 | konttori | (e.g. as mentioned by jamie (the creator of tracker): http://jamiemcc.livejournal.com/ ) |
| 12:27.02 | Jaffa | ah, cool |
| 12:27.05 | johnx | thank god |
| 12:27.37 | johnx | does that mean soon we'll have an indexer that won't flip out when it sees a symlink? |
| 12:27.42 | konttori | if you are interested, mailing lists discuss out current public targets with meta-tracker |
| 12:27.51 | konttori | yeah, well, tracker doesn't flip even now |
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| 12:28.12 | Jaffa | konttori: with a focus on ITOS to replace meta-layer-crawler (as johnx says) |
| 12:28.17 | Jaffa | ? |
| 12:28.21 | konttori | can't comment |
| 12:29.02 | johnx | ah, ok so Nokia is paying you to work on tracker but they won't officially comment whether they plan to use it in ITOS or not. Say no more, say no more. :) |
| 12:29.11 | Jaffa | :) |
| 12:29.17 | konttori | but what I can say is that we have been running tracker on the n810 quite a lot and it's very very fast and only sips memory. |
| 12:29.37 | johnx | that's encouraging news |
| 12:29.52 | wom- | konttori: you mean that python one? I solved that, but thanks anyway :) |
| 12:29.55 | Jaffa | Typical of the lack of comms on ITOS' roadmap (or even maemo's as tracker's open) |
| 12:30.01 | konttori | yeah, well, I'm only managing the project, not coding (regrettably ... I'd really like to get hands dirty with it) |
| 12:30.06 | Jaffa | but cool anyway |
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| 12:30.09 | pete_ | Hey guys |
| 12:30.18 | konttori | wom-: yeah. good to know you were able to get it solved |
| 12:30.27 | cbx33 | I saw a few comments in here about it wondered if someone was able to help me |
| 12:30.33 | cbx33 | I know it's not strictly maemo |
| 12:30.40 | cbx33 | the NGW100 |
| 12:30.45 | cbx33 | anyone know what I'm talking about |
| 12:31.02 | Jaffa | never heard of it |
| 12:31.03 | konttori | what makes tracker so very special is that it handles other content besides metadata and also contains a lightning fast search to all content. |
| 12:31.08 | johnx | something based around an avr32? |
| 12:31.16 | cbx33 | johnx: yes |
| 12:31.19 | johnx | raids google |
| 12:31.23 | johnx | what are you trying to do? |
| 12:31.35 | cbx33 | well.....there is a nice free toolchain etc |
| 12:31.44 | konttori | goes to have lunch |
| 12:31.49 | cbx33 | but I'm at a bit of a loss as so how to....well.....use it.... |
| 12:32.05 | cbx33 | I was hoping to attempt to port apache to it.....but I'm not sure it's possible |
| 12:32.18 | cbx33 | wanted to make a nagios box to monitor network devices |
| 12:32.22 | cbx33 | but in a tiny tiny package |
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| 12:34.41 | johnx | cbx33, so does this already run linux? or is part of the project getting linux booting on it, too? |
| 12:35.41 | johnx | 32MB of RAM...you probably don't want appache |
| 12:35.57 | johnx | anyways, I don't know much (anything?) about the avr32 stuff, but you might want to poke at openembedded.net |
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| 12:36.59 | x-demon | anyone tried gngeo? |
| 12:38.29 | x-demon | can't get it fullscreen |
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| 12:40.52 | crashanddie | Hey, is it just me or is there something wrong with the downloads ? |
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| 12:42.06 | crashanddie | Like in, impossible to install anything on my n810 ? |
| 12:43.13 | qwerty12_N800 | You may have corrupt internal mmc, check itt |
| 12:44.44 | crashanddie | wuuut ? |
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| 12:49.10 | qwerty12_N800 | itt = internettablettalk lol . Try copying a file onto your internal mmc with the file manager and look at what it says (if anything) |
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| 12:52.21 | crashanddie | I just copied an mp3 on it |
| 12:52.25 | crashanddie | worked fine |
| 12:54.13 | qwerty12_N800 | That's odd then. When you install a app and the error appears , what does details say? |
| 12:56.00 | x-demon | Anyone use gngeo? |
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| 12:58.56 | unique311 | x-demon, yes |
| 12:58.58 | unique311 | alot |
| 12:59.04 | x-demon | oh |
| 12:59.12 | unique311 | recently more than alot...get a wiimote |
| 12:59.15 | x-demon | i install xmeame, gngeo |
| 12:59.20 | unique311 | hey |
| 12:59.40 | unique311 | install xgngeo as a frontend...and support my hardword |
| 12:59.52 | x-demon | WHERE it? |
| 12:59.54 | x-demon | deb |
| 13:00.00 | unique311 | the garage |
| 13:00.12 | unique311 | and it makes your life very easy. |
| 13:00.50 | x-demon | 16-2? |
| 13:01.02 | unique311 | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/xgngeo/ |
| 13:01.04 | unique311 | yes |
| 13:01.19 | x-demon | will try now |
| 13:01.25 | x-demon | xmaeme sucks... |
| 13:01.30 | unique311 | any questions you had about xmaeme will be dismissed |
| 13:01.49 | x-demon | it's most powerful for gngeo, yes? |
| 13:02.28 | x-demon | ok, installing it |
| 13:02.36 | x-demon | unique311: what about SNES? |
| 13:03.15 | unique311 | its a frontend. similar to xmaeme |
| 13:03.44 | unique311 | but you get to pick the path where your bios is located, |
| 13:03.45 | x-demon | not starting =( |
| 13:03.52 | x-demon | i use SO2008 |
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| 13:04.08 | unique311 | i'm on os2008 also |
| 13:04.19 | x-demon | hmm. maybe dependencies? |
| 13:04.28 | unique311 | python |
| 13:04.36 | x-demon | oh |
| 13:04.42 | unique311 | your device new? |
| 13:04.47 | x-demon | no |
| 13:04.49 | x-demon | so |
| 13:04.52 | x-demon | 2 weeks |
| 13:04.57 | unique311 | do you have python installed? |
| 13:04.58 | x-demon | but no python |
| 13:05.02 | unique311 | ok |
| 13:05.05 | unique311 | tis why |
| 13:05.15 | x-demon | apt-get install python? |
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| 13:05.27 | unique311 | do it from the app manager |
| 13:05.39 | x-demon | what packet? |
| 13:05.52 | unique311 | setting>application manager |
| 13:05.58 | unique311 | packet? |
| 13:06.15 | unique311 | go to application manager |
| 13:06.18 | x-demon | i mean that in apt frontend too many python packets =) |
| 13:06.43 | unique311 | i didn't get that one, sorry. |
| 13:06.48 | unique311 | come again |
| 13:07.33 | x-demon | python2.5-edjie-demo python2.5-feedparser python2.5-pyinotofy |
| 13:07.38 | x-demon | which of them? |
| 13:07.57 | unique311 | python2.4-runtime i think |
| 13:08.03 | unique311 | python2.5-runtime i think |
| 13:08.09 | x-demon | not here 0_o |
| 13:08.13 | unique311 | strange |
| 13:08.14 | x-demon | i doesnt see that |
| 13:08.17 | unique311 | maybe its installed |
| 13:08.24 | x-demon | oh |
| 13:08.25 | unique311 | apt-cache search python |
| 13:08.30 | x-demon | i install xmaeme |
| 13:08.38 | x-demon | it req python |
| 13:08.47 | unique311 | alot of apps do |
| 13:09.51 | unique311 | python2.5-runtime |
| 13:09.55 | unique311 | should be there |
| 13:10.05 | unique311 | apt-get install python2.5-runtime |
| 13:10.44 | x-demon | 17 megs... |
| 13:11.05 | x-demon | can i transfer whole system to 32 gigs card? |
| 13:11.25 | unique311 | you can boot off mmc |
| 13:11.31 | x-demon | i have sd |
| 13:11.34 | unique311 | cool |
| 13:11.39 | unique311 | so go to ITT |
| 13:11.44 | x-demon | yeah |
| 13:11.46 | x-demon | thx |
| 13:11.47 | unique311 | and do a search for booting of mmc |
| 13:12.15 | x-demon | ok |
| 13:12.48 | unique311 | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8631 |
| 13:13.01 | unique311 | read it lots of times before taking the plunge |
| 13:13.26 | unique311 | How much did you pay for the 32GB SD |
| 13:13.33 | unique311 | did that even come out yet |
| 13:13.39 | x-demon | can't memorise |
| 13:13.43 | x-demon | it's not my |
| 13:13.49 | x-demon | but i am going to UAE |
| 13:14.04 | x-demon | i think it about 80$ in uae |
| 13:15.26 | unique311 | you can get stuff from dubhai really cheap |
| 13:15.29 | unique311 | i forgot |
| 13:15.46 | unique311 | where in the emrates are you going? |
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| 13:17.50 | x-demon | unique311: hm? |
| 13:17.55 | x-demon | dubai |
| 13:18.11 | unique311 | sandbox |
| 13:18.31 | x-demon | your gngeo frontend doesnt work |
| 13:18.32 | unique311 | tis the nickname use naval folks giveth it. |
| 13:18.47 | unique311 | it does over here, i really don't know what to tell you |
| 13:18.59 | unique311 | did you install python |
| 13:19.10 | x-demon | its really laggy when browsing for roms |
| 13:19.27 | unique311 | now thats really strange |
| 13:19.53 | x-demon | This ROM is unloadable because Gngeo could not find any suitable driver to handle it |
| 13:20.06 | unique311 | ok |
| 13:20.12 | unique311 | thats a problem with the rom |
| 13:20.14 | x-demon | metal slug 1 |
| 13:20.21 | unique311 | let me explain |
| 13:20.28 | unique311 | xgngeo is a frontend. |
| 13:20.37 | x-demon | i understand it |
| 13:20.42 | unique311 | gngeo is the program |
| 13:20.48 | x-demon | but i run this rom from xmaeme |
| 13:20.55 | unique311 | only certain roms work |
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| 13:21.13 | unique311 | did you set up xgngeo |
| 13:21.15 | unique311 | ? |
| 13:21.19 | x-demon | yes |
| 13:21.39 | unique311 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN57-Vn0WpI |
| 13:21.44 | unique311 | watch the video |
| 13:21.56 | unique311 | and then call me in the morning |
| 13:22.19 | x-demon | huh? metal slug not working??? |
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| 13:30.42 | fysa | woo! |
| 13:30.42 | fysa | *** FORMULA ONE *** |
| 13:32.31 | unique311 | game? |
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| 14:02.41 | cyberholic | good afternoon everyone :) |
| 14:04.17 | cyberholic | just in case some of you are interested in: i developed nearly a dozen of n800/n810 wallpapers...... can get them here: http://www.mojocafe.de/blog |
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| 14:08.58 | cbx33 | crashanddie: not got my n810 on at the mo, but it is possible |
| 14:09.33 | crashanddie | cbx33, I dunno, I think I have a network problem or something |
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| 14:11.06 | Ar-ras | hi |
| 14:11.30 | magicrobotmonkey | /script unload mumbles |
| 14:13.04 | cyberholic | Ar-ras: hi :) |
| 14:13.56 | Ar-ras | must i patch something to use external USB Device with N800? |
| 14:14.30 | Jaffa | Yay, my ITT post count is now down to zero and I'm all n00bish - albeit with a shiny new account with a nick I actually want & use. |
| 14:20.39 | Ar-ras | ? |
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| 14:24.54 | T0b0tras | cyberholic: thanks for the idea. Made my wallpapers out of http://xtalk.msk.su/photo/Japan05/21.jpeg |
| 14:25.52 | cyberholic | T0b0tras: beautiful! But what idea did you have? |
| 14:26.20 | cyberholic | Ar-ras: there is a nice tutorial somewhere as last news on maemo.org |
| 14:26.27 | T0b0tras | cyberholic: to change boring default wallpaper :-) |
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| 14:27.02 | cyberholic | *smile* ... i will add more in the next days. at the moment i am working on an alarm clock as Mojo |
| 14:28.21 | Ar-ras | i took a usb mini a and a female USB connector and made a cable from that, is that ok? |
| 14:28.45 | cyberholic | ar-ras: as fas as i know yes, but you need otg |
| 14:28.48 | cyberholic | i think... |
| 14:28.54 | Ar-ras | OTG?` |
| 14:28.59 | Ar-ras | is that a chip? |
| 14:29.04 | cyberholic | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/usb-otg-plugin/ |
| 14:29.28 | Ar-ras | n1 |
| 14:29.32 | cyberholic | ;) |
| 14:29.51 | cyberholic | But this is only guessed as i have no female2female cable around here.... WAIT!!!!!! |
| 14:29.57 | qwerty12_N800 | You can also use konttori's usbcontrol |
| 14:30.02 | cyberholic | Here you go... this is what i found yesterday: http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/kate-alholas-forum-nokia-blog/maemo/2008/01/21/usb-on-the-go?ticket=ST-85752-iEedv1B2XUapCzVkEfoVZrz7DP32ZVpLyzl-20 |
| 14:30.54 | znarf | How does the .service file interact with the osso_initialize function? |
| 14:31.02 | znarf | It seems the value of "Name" in the .service file needs to match somehow. |
| 14:31.45 | znarf | The libosso api says the application argument in osso_initialize must not contain any dots (only a-z plus underscore). That means only the suffix (i.e. myapp) |
| 14:31.58 | znarf | The strange thing is that this if I use the "com.nokia.myapp" it works as expected but not with an self defined string (i.e. "domain.my.myapp"). |
| 14:35.28 | Ar-ras | what is that??? USB Ethernet Mode |
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| 14:36.20 | qwerty12_N800 | Makes the device appear as a networked machine to your comp |
| 14:36.29 | Ar-ras | ah |
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| 14:36.54 | qwerty12_N800 | I set up my debian for usb network and i can now telnet and ssh into my n800 |
| 14:37.29 | qwerty12_N800 | I hear you can also share your internet over usb to the tablet |
| 14:38.56 | Ar-ras | doesnt work :( |
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| 14:44.49 | leo2007 | what's the maximum cpu frequency for n810? |
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| 14:46.01 | Ar-ras | 400 |
| 14:46.08 | Ar-ras | mhz |
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| 14:48.16 | leo2007 | is that a hardware limit? |
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| 14:52.09 | znarf | any ideas regarding the .service and osso_initialize problem? why does it only work if i either violate the api (by using "." in the application string) or having com.nokia in the .service file? |
| 14:55.14 | Ar-ras | leo2007 yes afaik |
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| 15:26.36 | cyberholic | Hey everyone, i have just finished to develop an alarm clock as Mojo for mojocafe.de .... now i am at the point where i ask my self what i shall use as "alarm" sound.... what would you like to be waken up in the morning? |
| 15:27.13 | unique311 | Yahooooooooooooo ooohooooo |
| 15:27.29 | cyberholic | loooooool... really?... well i think i can not use that as i will get in trouble with yahoo :) |
| 15:28.37 | Jaffa | cyberholic: I used to find the door chime from ST:TNG really effective as an alarm sound |
| 15:29.32 | cyberholic | jaffa:mmmmmmhh but that will only sound nice played once..... or do you want a female voice saying something like "Attention Attention - this is an alarm!" lol |
| 15:29.46 | Jaffa | cyberholic: it sounds once, and then once a minute |
| 15:30.14 | cyberholic | mmmmmmhhhhh. thats a good idea...... do you got an open source free sound that i can use somewhere? |
| 15:31.12 | cyberholic | at thefreesoundproject there are no star track sounds :( |
| 15:33.05 | cyberholic | what about a "rain sound" so that you will get up totally stressed .lol. |
| 15:39.24 | Italodance | HELO GUYS |
| 15:39.33 | Italodance | Authorization Required |
| 15:39.33 | Italodance | This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document requested. Either you supplied the wrong credentials (e.g., bad password), or your browser doesn't understand how to supply the credentials required. |
| 15:39.33 | Italodance | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 15:39.33 | Italodance | Apache/1.3.33 Server at stage.maemo.org Port 80 |
| 15:39.37 | Italodance | http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/bora/free/c/canola2/canola2_2.0.0~beta4-maemo1_all.deb |
| 15:39.46 | Italodance | i can't download yet why? |
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| 15:40.05 | Jaffa | Italodance: cos it's still broken? |
| 15:40.43 | Italodance | don't know is it working there? |
| 15:40.59 | Italodance | i tried ie and firefox and my n800 opera |
| 15:41.03 | Italodance | but no! :( |
| 15:41.24 | Italodance | tell me can u download there? what is this message? for what? |
| 15:41.39 | Jaffa | cyberholic: something like [COLOR=DimGray][B]Andrew Flegg[/B] -- mailto:andrew@bleb.org | [url=http://www.bleb.org/][COLOR=DimGray][u]http://www.bleb.org[/u][/COLOR][/url][/COLOR] |
| 15:41.48 | Jaffa | Or, rather: [COLOR=DimGray][B]Andrew Flegg[/B] -- mailto:andrew@bleb.org | [url=http://www.bleb.org/][COLOR=DimGray][u]http://www.bleb.org[/u][/COLOR][/url][/COLOR] |
| 15:41.50 | Jaffa | Bah |
| 15:41.53 | Jaffa | Mispasting sucks |
| 15:41.58 | Jaffa | http://www.trekmania.net/wavs/doorchime.wav |
| 15:42.01 | cyberholic | :) |
| 15:42.03 | Jaffa | Finally. *phew* |
| 15:42.24 | Italodance | Jaffa can u download from http://repository.maemo.org/extras now? |
| 15:42.24 | cyberholic | I think that is copyrighted :( |
| 15:43.08 | sp3000 | Italodance: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2237#c4 could be instructive |
| 15:43.10 | Jaffa | Italodance: it's not that straight-forward cos it's load-balanced |
| 15:43.24 | cyberholic | Would it be nice to wake up by ocean waves or could that put somebody into a trauma by thinking that the room is under water? |
| 15:43.39 | sp3000 | if not too helpful |
| 15:43.41 | Jaffa | cyberholic: very possibly (although being so short it should fall under fair use). |
| 15:44.05 | Jaffa | cyberholic: One of the default ITOS sounds is waves, I don't like 'em (it could be that the recording's way too loud and compressed tho') |
| 15:44.22 | cyberholic | right.... |
| 15:44.42 | Jaffa | sp3000: that's ridiculous! |
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| 15:46.07 | sp3000 | US legislation ridiculous? unpossible! |
| 15:46.27 | Italodance | thank u guys |
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| 15:46.44 | sp3000 | and then there's https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2643#c2 |
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| 15:58.37 | Jaffa | sp3000: US legislation says you can't provide a download service to countries formally part of Yugoslavia? |
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| 16:01.15 | sp3000 | dunno, I was just taking it out on a random string in a random comment |
| 16:02.14 | cyberholic | Ok, i just finished the first alarm clock as mojo.... for those that are not registere at mojocafe.de can view a preview at: http://www.mojocafe.de/blog/ |
| 16:02.26 | Jaffa | sp3000: true :-) |
| 16:04.45 | Jaffa | cyberholic: can the weather forecast mojo display celcius? |
| 16:05.45 | cyberholic | yeah... it changes all 5 seconds between F and C |
| 16:09.38 | sp3000 | that's ...educational? |
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| 16:15.08 | KotCzarny | ayawn |
| 16:17.06 | cyberholic | good morning *yawn* though beeing up for over 12 hours now :) |
| 16:17.17 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:17.24 | qwerty12 | afternoon here ;) |
| 16:17.37 | KotCzarny | here too |
| 16:17.50 | qwerty12 | Lol, my bad, I'm missing something :P |
| 16:17.58 | KotCzarny | but for a good yawn there's always right time |
| 16:18.28 | qwerty12 | yawn? oh wait, I thought you meant something else... :P |
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| 16:24.50 | eichi | is there no qemu maemo sdk? only vmware? |
| 16:24.59 | eichi | i dont want to install vmwareplayer |
| 16:25.04 | qwerty12 | Check the bottom of the page |
| 16:25.07 | KotCzarny | then don't |
| 16:25.13 | KotCzarny | and install nokia's sdk |
| 16:25.29 | KotCzarny | vmware is for lazy anyway |
| 16:25.40 | KotCzarny | (i mean most lazy) |
| 16:26.02 | qwerty12 | vmware sux. I had the image and so annoying, I installed Ubuntu and the scratchbox and then mounted the vmware image and took all the good stuff out of it |
| 16:26.33 | KotCzarny | why didn't you run sdk install script? |
| 16:26.59 | qwerty12 | I did first, I had the proper scratchbox set up but the vmware image contains a lot of a good stuff |
| 16:27.00 | leo2007 | Is there any commercial dictionary that can be run in n810? |
| 16:27.11 | qwerty12 | Look into SDictViewer |
| 16:27.26 | leo2007 | such as m-w or oxford/cambridge |
| 16:27.29 | qwerty12 | The program isnt commercial but you can get commerical dictionaries (like Oxford etc) |
| 16:28.55 | leo2007 | I heard SDictViewer is slow |
| 16:29.06 | KotCzarny | i can give you my kcxlator |
| 16:29.18 | KotCzarny | but it works in xterm (ncurses based) |
| 16:29.44 | KotCzarny | erm, it's not mine, my part is porting it to ncurses :) |
| 16:30.21 | qwerty12 | what is it :P? |
| 16:30.31 | KotCzarny | there are some thesaurus' and eng<-->(spa|ger|pol) dbs for it available |
| 16:30.51 | qwerty12 | Nice :) |
| 16:31.46 | KotCzarny | you can try it at: mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/kcxlator/ |
| 16:31.58 | KotCzarny | (yes, i did php ui for it too :) |
| 16:32.17 | qwerty12 | Looks good :) /me does thumbs up |
| 16:34.03 | KotCzarny | it was primarly made for mobile phones |
| 16:34.19 | KotCzarny | symbian/java etc. |
| 16:34.29 | KotCzarny | but i missed it on my laptop :) |
| 16:34.41 | qwerty12 | On my W810, you can get a lot of *cough* hackzored dictionaries... :P |
| 16:34.48 | KotCzarny | it's free |
| 16:34.57 | qwerty12 | True :D |
| 16:34.59 | KotCzarny | ie. dbs are pd afait |
| 16:35.21 | KotCzarny | qwerty: look for xlator |
| 16:35.37 | qwerty12 | Ahh, I see |
| 16:35.45 | KotCzarny | kcxlator is my ncurses/php hack |
| 16:35.47 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:35.57 | qwerty12 | Cool :) |
| 16:36.22 | cyberholic | Hey people... do you know of any other umpcs or mobile devices having 800x480 screen resolution? ... apart asus eee |
| 16:36.42 | KotCzarny | cyberholic: sony has one i think |
| 16:36.47 | KotCzarny | don't remember the name |
| 16:36.51 | KotCzarny | starting with m i think |
| 16:36.53 | cyberholic | mylo? |
| 16:36.55 | qwerty12 | I think U series |
| 16:36.57 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 16:36.58 | qwerty12 | UX etc |
| 16:36.59 | KotCzarny | mylo |
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| 16:38.12 | MangoFusion | personally i have the sdk installed in virtualbox. no problems |
| 16:38.25 | MangoFusion | except that i can't think of what to make |
| 16:38.26 | KotCzarny | have sdk installed in slackware |
| 16:38.28 | MangoFusion | ;) |
| 16:38.33 | KotCzarny | *has |
| 16:38.35 | qwerty12 | has it in Ubuntu :P |
| 16:38.57 | KotCzarny | mangof: x games ;) |
| 16:39.08 | qwerty12 | +xx? |
| 16:39.09 | dtahtbot | qwerty12: Error: "xx?" is not a valid command. |
| 16:39.15 | qwerty12 | ++xx? |
| 16:39.15 | dtahtbot | qwerty12: Error: "+xx?" is not a valid command. |
| 16:39.23 | KotCzarny | +go fsck yourself |
| 16:39.25 | dtahtbot | KotCzarny: Error: "go" is not a valid command. |
| 16:39.25 | MangoFusion | i think everyone else has ported all of the good games :P |
| 16:39.33 | qwerty12 | lol |
| 16:39.49 | KotCzarny | whos bot it is? |
| 16:39.55 | qwerty12 | not mine |
| 16:40.01 | qwerty12 | Plain xchat install |
| 16:41.57 | qwerty12 | Is developing always annoying? |
| 16:42.17 | keesj | what you say |
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| 16:42.22 | KotCzarny | only at 'hunt the bugs' stage |
| 16:42.43 | keesj | a you mean challenging right... |
| 16:42.53 | qwerty12 | A bit, more frustrating :D |
| 16:44.00 | keesj | programming is for the elite |
| 16:44.09 | qwerty12 | I've spent ages adding support to jott's sb-rotate-plugin to change the keyboard map when rotating and I managed to to that but I wanted to add support to not change the keyboard map as well like the original, I've done that and now I've got to try and sort out the errors with 0.1% knowledge of programming |
| 16:44.11 | keesj | :P |
| 16:44.22 | qwerty12 | *do |
| 16:44.23 | qwerty12 | :) |
| 16:44.33 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:44.54 | KotCzarny | 0.1% knowledge of programming may be the key to frustration |
| 16:44.56 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 16:45.07 | KotCzarny | but you will learn |
| 16:45.08 | KotCzarny | eventually |
| 16:45.34 | qwerty12 | Lol, true but I'm applying a bit of general knowledge to the code I've seen like copy & paste... :\ |
| 16:45.36 | MangoFusion | or become insane |
| 16:45.42 | qwerty12 | Muhahaha |
| 16:46.05 | keesj | it always remains challenging, because the problem you challenge also become bigger |
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| 16:55.25 | unique311 | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17712 |
| 16:55.37 | qwerty12 | I saw that |
| 16:55.42 | unique311 | a good build of mtpaint by bundyo |
| 16:55.47 | unique311 | fullscreen |
| 16:56.04 | KotCzarny | wow |
| 16:56.10 | qwerty12 | Cool, I tried out the earlier port and its a bit odd to use IMHO |
| 16:56.20 | KotCzarny | does pres. sens. finnaly work? |
| 16:56.31 | unique311 | he just updated it.. |
| 16:56.41 | KotCzarny | that's why i'm asking :) |
| 16:56.57 | qwerty12 | "Built mtPaint 3.20 for OS2008 and appears to work fine even with pressure sensitivity and alpha blended brushes" |
| 16:57.11 | qwerty12 | You can adjust that in the preferences afaik |
| 16:57.11 | KotCzarny | yes, i see what's written there |
| 16:57.22 | KotCzarny | i'm just asking if someone tried it |
| 16:57.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 16:57.29 | qwerty12 | Oh, sorry :) |
| 16:57.30 | unique311 | checking for this right now kot |
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| 16:58.40 | KotCzarny | btw. what's that 'stop sign' status plugin? |
| 16:59.00 | qwerty12 | Its the presence applet afaik |
| 16:59.07 | KotCzarny | ah. |
| 16:59.19 | KotCzarny | author should redo the icons then |
| 16:59.19 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 17:00.00 | KotCzarny | stop beign white circle with a stripe and green being white circle with checkmark inside |
| 17:00.08 | unique311 | i don't think it works |
| 17:00.18 | unique311 | not getting anywhere with the preference |
| 17:00.20 | KotCzarny | using colors in status bar doesn't look right |
| 17:00.37 | qwerty12 | I had to keep going back to enable the tablet |
| 17:00.43 | qwerty12 | Odd but I finally got it to work |
| 17:01.13 | unique311 | i'm getting different outcomes with different settings.. |
| 17:01.19 | unique311 | but no pressure sens |
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| 17:05.04 | MangoFusion | mtpaint? never heard of it |
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| 17:32.10 | n800music | is there a way to map the up/down pad to make microb scroll instead of jumping links? |
| 17:32.18 | Navi | Yes. |
| 17:32.37 | qwerty12 | Check the Internet Tablet Talk wiki |
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| 17:39.05 | cyberholic | Does anyone knows how to force a fullscreen in html that works on my n800 ? |
| 17:40.10 | MangoFusion | force in html? |
| 17:40.34 | KotCzarny | forcing sux. |
| 17:40.35 | smackpotato | your at the murcy of matchbox the windows manager |
| 17:40.58 | MangoFusion | i would guess it is not possible, but then again stranger things have been possible |
| 17:41.11 | KotCzarny | maybe some javascript |
| 17:41.55 | n800music | did opera use tabs? |
| 17:42.04 | KotCzarny | opera is out |
| 17:42.08 | KotCzarny | microb is in |
| 17:42.10 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 17:42.16 | n800music | just curious |
| 17:42.25 | cyberholic | well there are some javscripts to force, the question is.... will they work on the device *hehe* ... i will tell you in a minute |
| 17:42.30 | n800music | it's a memory hog tho |
| 17:42.43 | n800music | as big as the desktop version |
| 17:43.02 | cyberholic | by the way: anyone of you would like to see a special RSS feed as mojo, like the ones i added yesterday? |
| 17:44.55 | smackpotato | any gtk wizz around |
| 17:49.47 | cyberholic | nah... jessus.... fullscreen javascripts seem to be squished by os2008 :( .... not one works :( |
| 17:50.30 | KotCzarny | then browse microb javascript functions |
| 17:50.49 | smackpotato | ya matchbox desides where to put the windows and i dont think its too smart |
| 17:50.57 | KotCzarny | 'decides' |
| 17:51.31 | cyberholic | welll HAL would decide the correct thing.... "...as long it is full of stars!" |
| 17:51.32 | smackpotato | tx |
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| 18:06.22 | qwerty12 | Could someone do me a favour please? In scratchbox, run sb-menu, go to Show and choose Chinook_ARMEL and tell me what the CPU-transparency: line says by default please. |
| 18:07.23 | Jaffa | qwerty12: CPU-transparency: /scratchbox/devkits/cputransp/bin/qemu-arm-0.8.2-sb2 |
| 18:07.31 | qwerty12 | Ok, thanks :( |
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| 18:41.32 | n800m | what's the root pasd? |
| 18:41.37 | KotCzarny | blank |
| 18:41.42 | n800m | oh |
| 18:41.51 | KotCzarny | unless you have set it already |
| 18:42.16 | n800m | doh |
| 18:42.22 | n800m | it's blank |
| 18:43.38 | n800m | hey sometimes when i download apps they get stuck downloading |
| 18:43.48 | n800m | with the app manager open |
| 18:43.53 | KotCzarny | there was apt-get command to purge them |
| 18:43.57 | KotCzarny | or clean |
| 18:44.00 | KotCzarny | i don't remember |
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| 18:46.50 | milhouse | Does it seem strange to anyone else that there haven't been any bug updates in Bugzilla since Thursday night...? |
| 18:47.07 | milhouse | sorry, Thursday morning - 11:29 is the last modification |
| 18:47.23 | KotCzarny | bugzilla went invallid-db-pass few days ago |
| 18:47.29 | KotCzarny | and probably no one fixed it yet |
| 18:47.30 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:47.34 | milhouse | aha... i'm logged in, but only viewing bugs |
| 18:47.55 | milhouse | yeah, probably another month for a fix if they're true to form |
| 18:48.11 | KotCzarny | you can try posting a bug about it :P |
| 18:48.12 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 18:48.22 | milhouse | hah, did think about it... :) |
| 18:48.24 | wazd | good evening all :) |
| 18:48.32 | milhouse | evening |
| 18:49.04 | wazd | can anybody answer me a small question bout Maemo?) |
| 18:49.11 | KotCzarny | probably |
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| 18:49.39 | Jaffa | milhouse: you got an RSS feed for all bugs? |
| 18:49.57 | wazd | Have anybody worked with Maemo new double sided menu? (Applications) |
| 18:50.12 | Jaffa | Define "worked"? |
| 18:50.18 | wazd | is it possible to make on the left not tab selector but a button itself? |
| 18:50.32 | KotCzarny | 'double sided' ? |
| 18:50.34 | n800m | double menu? |
| 18:50.51 | wazd | Aaaah) |
| 18:50.52 | KotCzarny | wazd: if one get a sources for it.. |
| 18:51.07 | wazd | Applications menu |
| 18:51.15 | KotCzarny | wazd: answer is 'not yet' probably |
| 18:51.29 | KotCzarny | but you're free to try and hack it |
| 18:51.29 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:51.30 | wazd | "My selection, Communication, Extra" and so on |
| 18:52.25 | wazd | I'm not a developer, I'm righting the request list to the developer :) |
| 18:52.46 | KotCzarny | if you want less clicks just put all your favourite apps in the first category |
| 18:52.48 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 18:53.01 | wazd | nono :) |
| 18:53.02 | Jaffa | wazd: tried reorganising it through Control Panel? |
| 18:53.09 | lcuk | has bookreader and remote control in there |
| 18:53.11 | wazd | aw |
| 18:53.19 | wazd | Didn't think of that)) |
| 18:53.23 | Jaffa | wazd: All see "Personal Menu" (search on ITT) for a new task navigator plugin which will give you what you want |
| 18:53.23 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 18:53.24 | wazd | One moment)) |
| 18:53.35 | wazd | Nooo) |
| 18:53.39 | n800m | there's launcher |
| 18:54.01 | wazd | I'm actually working with Personal menu developer :) |
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| 18:55.16 | wazd | We're trying to reorganize "Web" menu to the template that I've described here: http://tabletui.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/tablet-heart-web-browser-part-i/ |
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| 18:58.50 | wazd | nope it's just possible to create a category on the left |
| 18:59.03 | wazd | Well, lets try to hack it :) |
| 18:59.03 | KotCzarny | but it's not worth it |
| 18:59.17 | KotCzarny | i mean scrolling is 'expensive' |
| 18:59.50 | wazd | Where?) |
| 18:59.59 | KotCzarny | you have to click and wait untill it scrolls |
| 19:00.18 | KotCzarny | it may seem like a second, but from usability point of view it's expensive |
| 19:00.21 | wazd | Click what?) |
| 19:00.27 | wazd | Scroll what?) |
| 19:00.28 | KotCzarny | scrolling icon |
| 19:00.29 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:00.56 | KotCzarny | i have 5 categories having only 6 icons each and 6th has all the 'unused' icons |
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| 19:01.40 | wazd | Are you talking about Web Menu?) |
| 19:01.50 | KotCzarny | about app menu in general |
| 19:03.06 | KotCzarny | it would be nice to have configurable heigh of menu items |
| 19:03.10 | KotCzarny | height |
| 19:03.37 | wazd | Yes, best parts of Personal Menu will migrate to the Web menu :) |
| 19:04.49 | wazd | Well, talking about App Menu itself, I think that 34(35) quicklaunch shortcuts is more than enough for rapid using :) |
| 19:05.15 | wazd | you can access 34 apps without scrolling with 2 clicks |
| 19:05.23 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:05.25 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 19:06.01 | wazd | So it's not as bad :) |
| 19:06.03 | KotCzarny | but still, having a way to further customize it would be nice |
| 19:06.04 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:06.26 | wazd | Yep, and that's why we got personal Menu :) |
| 19:07.03 | wazd | And what do you think bout Web Menu concept? |
| 19:07.19 | wazd | Any complains?) |
| 19:07.40 | KotCzarny | i haven't used microb too much (yet) |
| 19:07.53 | KotCzarny | so my web menu is untouched |
| 19:07.53 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:10.26 | wazd | pitty) |
| 19:10.32 | KotCzarny | 'pity' |
| 19:10.38 | KotCzarny | pitty is squirrelish |
| 19:10.39 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:10.58 | wazd | aaah, who cares))) |
| 19:11.04 | KotCzarny | <=-- |
| 19:11.07 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:11.58 | wazd | pretending that he uses N800 glitchy KB :) |
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| 19:12.24 | KotCzarny | glitchy kb has backspace too |
| 19:12.25 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:12.33 | n800m | http://simple-launcher.garage.maemo.org/ |
| 19:12.44 | lcuk | all keyboards have an inbuilt evil bit. |
| 19:12.49 | KotCzarny | n800m: no new news |
| 19:13.05 | wazd | glitchy kb has glitchy bckspace :) |
| 19:13.07 | KotCzarny | and it still doesn't have transparent bg on n8x0 |
| 19:13.07 | lcuk | it is normally activated if trying to fix other peoples spelling ;) |
| 19:13.17 | n800m | yeah just curious if tthisd be different |
| 19:13.33 | eichi | i want to code on a maemo project, but dont know, how to do that. i saw a vmware sdk image. but i dont want this closed app. what can i install on linux to code and compile for maemo? |
| 19:14.18 | KotCzarny | eichi: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/ |
| 19:14.22 | KotCzarny | and click on sdk releases |
| 19:14.31 | KotCzarny | then just get 2 scripts and run them |
| 19:14.39 | KotCzarny | and you will have working sdk |
| 19:14.43 | lcuk | the vmware image is a great way to get started - it is just a linux image with scratchbox installed and runnable. you can do it all yourself without linux but involves installing and configuring scratchbox compilation |
| 19:14.47 | wazd | What problem do you have with this evil closed source VMWare?) |
| 19:15.09 | lcuk | without vmware * |
| 19:15.18 | KotCzarny | yeah, knowing that all important parts of maemo/nokia are closed too :) |
| 19:15.23 | wazd | VMPlayer is free |
| 19:15.30 | lcuk | but its not free |
| 19:15.33 | lcuk | shocker |
| 19:15.52 | KotCzarny | applies free shocker to lcuk |
| 19:16.05 | lcuk | thx - my hair needed spiking |
| 19:16.20 | KotCzarny | that hair? |
| 19:16.21 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 19:16.22 | wazd | Why they have Media Player closed - dunno :) |
| 19:16.26 | KotCzarny | *those |
| 19:16.27 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:16.38 | KotCzarny | wazd: they have closed weirdest parts |
| 19:16.43 | lcuk | no need - i wear a murkin |
| 19:16.44 | KotCzarny | fe. status bar :) |
| 19:16.55 | wazd | yep |
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| 19:17.23 | lcuk | wireless drivers as well arent they |
| 19:17.35 | wazd | Wi-Fi I guess |
| 19:17.42 | wazd | BT is accessible |
| 19:18.03 | wazd | cause there are 3rd party A2DP drivers |
| 19:18.57 | eichi | KotCzarny, can i run this as user and without any strange thinks, demaging my system? |
| 19:19.18 | KotCzarny | eichi: i believe yes, as long you set proper mount points |
| 19:19.19 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:19.33 | KotCzarny | it installs to one dir |
| 19:19.38 | KotCzarny | doesn't touch anything else |
| 19:19.41 | lcuk | if however you are afraid of damaging your system surely vmware would be a better angle ;) |
| 19:20.11 | n800m | man i really wanna try jott's rotation thing but im afraid i'll break it. |
| 19:20.13 | KotCzarny | the only thing is that they doesn't allow to use it as root |
| 19:20.14 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:20.21 | KotCzarny | n800m: do it. |
| 19:20.24 | KotCzarny | it simply works |
| 19:20.24 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:20.33 | eichi | i read the install script at the moment...but its a long one |
| 19:22.16 | n800m | modified kernel sounds creepy to me |
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| 19:22.41 | KotCzarny | n800m: then apply patch yourself |
| 19:22.48 | KotCzarny | and compile it on your own |
| 19:22.49 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:22.50 | KotCzarny | i did |
| 19:22.58 | lcuk | by hand? |
| 19:23.01 | n800m | i'm newbish |
| 19:23.04 | lcuk | using a sliderule? |
| 19:23.21 | KotCzarny | n800m: then just use precompiled one |
| 19:23.31 | KotCzarny | remember that you can reflash whole thing anyway |
| 19:23.33 | KotCzarny | in seconds |
| 19:23.34 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 19:24.05 | lcuk | you can even (if i remember rightly)( flash the kernel just into memory and test - then when you reboot it loads the original one |
| 19:24.19 | n800m | but how do i get the kernel, where do i put to be able to use it |
| 19:24.37 | wazd | is there a way to flash kernel under Win?) |
| 19:24.46 | n800m | i can't just open it and i duuno where it goes |
| 19:24.53 | n800m | the patch imean |
| 19:24.53 | KotCzarny | wazd: you can flash directly in n8x0 |
| 19:25.02 | KotCzarny | it takes few seconds |
| 19:25.04 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:25.16 | wazd | Damn) |
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| 19:25.32 | KotCzarny | no external pc needed |
| 19:25.32 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:25.50 | lcuk | just a vmware image ;) |
| 19:25.54 | wazd | didn't know bout that :) |
| 19:26.19 | KotCzarny | wazd: yeah, it only needs padding and mtdtools |
| 19:26.21 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:26.29 | KotCzarny | google for fanoush scripts :) |
| 19:26.47 | KotCzarny | then it's as simple as ./kernel-flash zImage-name |
| 19:26.48 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 19:27.04 | wazd | Describing ideas is sooo difficult :) |
| 19:27.49 | wazd | So many details to mention. For good UX |
| 19:35.12 | n800m | fanoush's patcges are just code |
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| 19:53.48 | n80o | i can't do it, i'm missing something |
| 19:53.58 | KotCzarny | do what? |
| 19:54.12 | n800music | flashing |
| 19:54.26 | KotCzarny | how do you try to do it? |
| 19:54.38 | n800music | flasher not found it says |
| 19:54.49 | KotCzarny | what says |
| 19:54.54 | n800music | xterm |
| 19:55.00 | n800music | one sec |
| 19:55.02 | KotCzarny | try ./ before command |
| 19:55.12 | KotCzarny | and run it from jffs2/ext partition |
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| 19:55.13 | KotCzarny | not vfat |
| 19:55.14 | n800music | http://sse2.net/rotate/ |
| 19:55.32 | n800music | k |
| 19:56.50 | n800music | ./ worked i think |
| 19:57.45 | n800music | no it didnt |
| 19:57.54 | KotCzarny | pastebin.com |
| 19:59.00 | jott | i just updated the kernel on sse2.net/rotate/ |
| 19:59.12 | KotCzarny | jott: what are the changes? |
| 19:59.14 | jott | no xv should work again |
| 20:00.06 | KotCzarny | is patch updated too? |
| 20:00.15 | jott | ah no.. |
| 20:00.16 | jott | sec |
| 20:00.19 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:01.32 | jott | k |
| 20:01.42 | KotCzarny | thx |
| 20:01.44 | jott | actually it's just reverts a change i made |
| 20:02.39 | KotCzarny | btw. you can use l |= 0x03 operator |
| 20:02.44 | n800music | :( |
| 20:03.25 | KotCzarny | doesn't matter much but is a little cleaner |
| 20:03.26 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 20:03.27 | Jaffa | jott: have you still got vala deps for maemo somewhere? |
| 20:04.30 | KotCzarny | jott: but it works with blanking? |
| 20:05.04 | jott | KotCzarny: ah yeah this is part of the original patch :) but you are right |
| 20:05.13 | jott | KotCzarny: should be yes.. |
| 20:05.24 | jott | Jaffa: i think so.. |
| 20:05.36 | KotCzarny | jott: you have not tested it? :) |
| 20:05.47 | Jaffa | jott: URL I dug out of the logs 404ed |
| 20:06.18 | n800music | is there a very dumbed down guide for rotation? |
| 20:06.22 | jott | KotCzarny: well i've had no problems with blanking :) |
| 20:06.33 | KotCzarny | n800: yes, it's on that page |
| 20:06.38 | KotCzarny | jott: ok :) |
| 20:06.41 | n800music | dumber |
| 20:06.43 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:07.07 | jott | n800music: feel free to say what you do not understand - i can change it |
| 20:07.10 | KotCzarny | n800: how do you try to flash the kernel? |
| 20:07.29 | KotCzarny | jott: put a link to some kernel flashing howto |
| 20:07.29 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 20:07.49 | jott | it's all hidden in the links on the page :) |
| 20:07.58 | BabelO | hi jott, you are here too ;) |
| 20:08.04 | jott | BabelO: hehe yeah |
| 20:08.07 | KotCzarny | add a css to make links font-size: 200%; |
| 20:08.08 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 20:08.44 | n800music | kotczarny links to firums are horrible as guides |
| 20:08.56 | n800music | especially reading on n800 |
| 20:09.08 | KotCzarny | n800: you have not answered my question |
| 20:09.09 | n800music | forums i mean |
| 20:09.11 | KotCzarny | twice already |
| 20:09.25 | KotCzarny | how do you expect any help then? |
| 20:09.52 | n800music | i really don't |
| 20:09.57 | n800music | thanks tho |
| 20:10.15 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 20:11.45 | jott | Jaffa: http://sse2.net/vala/ |
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| 20:14.39 | aVirulence | Hi, can someone tell me if there's a telepathy connection manager available for maemo for IRC and/or MSN (I mean telepathy-butterfly)? |
| 20:22.45 | wom- | there is telepathy-haze |
| 20:22.47 | wom- | it has msn |
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| 20:23.11 | wom- | aVirulence: http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/ |
| 20:24.15 | wom- | aVirulence: and service list has Irc when configuring accounts. haven't tried it though |
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| 20:25.20 | aVirulence | wom-, thanks a lot, that looks promising! |
| 20:25.36 | wom- | aVirulence: np :) |
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| 20:31.25 | wom- | that irc service seems to work |
| 20:31.53 | wom- | i don't know how to join channel with it but at least privmsg comes to my N810 like any chat :) |
| 20:32.02 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 20:32.32 | wom- | kinda cool :) |
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| 20:42.23 | cLin | anyone familiar with the jquery javascript library? |
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| 20:51.05 | aVirulence | ok, I'm giving it a shot |
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| 20:52.48 | jessevdk | hi, I'm running OS2006 (n770) and tried to install python2.5-runtime, upon 'import hildon' I get: ImportError: /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_atomic_int_compare_and_exchange |
| 20:52.56 | jessevdk | has anyone seen this before? |
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| 20:53.28 | KotCzarny | libs mismatch |
| 20:53.37 | KotCzarny | have you forced any libs recently? |
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| 20:53.43 | jessevdk | no |
| 20:53.45 | KotCzarny | added weird repos? |
| 20:54.00 | jessevdk | I had some weird repos maybe |
| 20:54.15 | jessevdk | but that's not where I got python2.5 from |
| 20:54.26 | jessevdk | can't imagine that libgobject-2.0 is the wrong version |
| 20:54.27 | KotCzarny | it's a problem with gtk2 lib |
| 20:54.32 | KotCzarny | not with python i think |
| 20:54.41 | KotCzarny | gobject belongs to gtk2 |
| 20:54.44 | KotCzarny | (or glib2) |
| 20:54.54 | jessevdk | I know |
| 20:55.26 | jessevdk | hmm... I have libgobject-2.0.so.0.800.6 |
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| 20:55.46 | jessevdk | that's also what I have in scratchbox |
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| 21:08.11 | jessevdk | copying it from scratchbox seems to have worked |
| 21:08.35 | jessevdk | do any of you guys also know wether maybe GtkCellRendererText won't render bold or italic text? |
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| 21:09.50 | jessevdk | is this something the theme just doesn't support, or the font? |
| 21:10.25 | KotCzarny | http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=32509 |
| 21:10.33 | KotCzarny | (off-topic) |
| 21:10.45 | KotCzarny | don't click if weak nerves :) |
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| 21:18.20 | jessevdk | hmm, none of the settings seems to work |
| 21:18.26 | jessevdk | maybe I'm just doing something wrong |
| 21:19.22 | jessevdk | ah yes |
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| 21:26.01 | jessevdk | fixed, seems you need set_property instead of setting the values on the attribute |
| 21:26.03 | BabelO | hi, does someone know if there is a tool to use n800 as a bluetooth speaker for a mobile phone ? |
| 21:26.05 | BabelO | if it is a2dp, that is better :) |
| 21:30.27 | BabelO | no idea ? no application ;) |
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| 22:00.15 | wazd | Hmm... Use n800 as loudtalk is very good idea I suppose :) |
| 22:00.26 | KotCzarny | loudtalk? |
| 22:00.40 | BabelO | wazd: yes ;) |
| 22:00.52 | wazd | But i think it's the same profile as handsfree, so you need it :) |
| 22:01.29 | BabelO | wazd: some time ago i foiund small tools to emulate a computer as a a2dp headset, but can't find it again |
| 22:02.00 | wazd | Maybe it's possible to port profile like it done with A2DP |
| 22:03.48 | wazd | Aaaah, Wacom is so sweet but need so much time to adopt :) |
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| 22:11.28 | Jaffa | jott: ta muchly |
| 22:24.42 | pupnik | now that the distortion is gone, the n810 speakers are pretty incredible |
| 22:24.50 | KotCzarny | distortion? |
| 22:24.58 | pupnik | unit initially had bad distortion |
| 22:25.36 | wazd | does n800 suffer?) |
| 22:25.46 | KotCzarny | pupnik: hardware or software? |
| 22:26.28 | pupnik | i originally thought it was a problem with software mixer but now i think it was that the speakers needed to be 'broken-in' |
| 22:26.35 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 22:27.09 | pupnik | after a couple hours of high volume they're crystal clear |
| 22:27.14 | wazd | Small poll: Does anybody ever used his/her own homepage on tablets?) |
| 22:27.27 | pupnik | 1 |
| 22:27.28 | KotCzarny | wazd: i have my own index.html |
| 22:27.51 | wazd | thanks :) |
| 22:28.09 | wazd | Then we're leaving homepage button :) |
| 22:28.41 | KotCzarny | pupnik: i have never noticed distortion |
| 22:28.50 | KotCzarny | do you have any recording, etc? |
| 22:29.16 | pupnik | yes i did some recordings but i don't have a good mic, so it was just the camera |
| 22:29.41 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 22:32.32 | wazd | And what do you think about the idea of new Web Menu ( http://tabletui.wordpress.com/2008/02/03/tablet-heart-web-browser-part-i/ )? is it worth to develop? |
| 22:34.00 | doc|home | that looks exactly the same |
| 22:34.30 | doc|home | oh, wait, no, took a while to load completely |
| 22:34.40 | doc|home | can the renderer be made faster? :/ |
| 22:34.56 | pupnik | watches joe vs the volcano on new mplayer .26 |
| 22:35.00 | KotCzarny | doc: yes, use links |
| 22:35.08 | KotCzarny | .26 is out? |
| 22:35.13 | KotCzarny | anything important fixed? |
| 22:35.14 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 22:35.21 | pupnik | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16986&page=5 |
| 22:35.32 | wazd | Lipsync fixed?) |
| 22:35.48 | pupnik | i think so |
| 22:35.58 | KotCzarny | only in sdl? :) |
| 22:36.15 | pupnik | tiny differences between sdl and esd |
| 22:36.32 | pupnik | sdl is default |
| 22:36.37 | KotCzarny | "I strongly suspect that we can't rely on audio delay reported by esd at all." |
| 22:36.39 | KotCzarny | ehhehe |
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| 22:38.22 | wazd | I think that lipsync bug appears only in odd numbered versions :) |
| 22:39.39 | pupnik | btw 2-pass encoding is he way to go |
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| 22:52.39 | pupnik | playing with mplayer KotCzarny ? |
| 22:52.49 | KotCzarny | define 'playing' |
| 22:52.54 | pupnik | well testing |
| 22:53.00 | KotCzarny | not yet |
| 22:53.12 | KotCzarny | but on my laptop mplayer is playing some mp3s |
| 22:53.13 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 22:55.49 | pupnik | getting a bit of tearing on some 400x240 ones |
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| 23:13.50 | pupnik | do you remember the 'low quality' playback command line option? |
| 23:14.11 | KotCzarny | nope, but i can check |
| 23:14.21 | pupnik | i'm searching but no finding yet |
| 23:15.08 | KotCzarny | -lavdopts lowres=1:fast:skiploopfilter=all |
| 23:15.29 | pupnik | ty added to script |
| 23:15.47 | pupnik | heh wow, that is low quality :) |
| 23:16.03 | KotCzarny | but on anything lower than 600x400 it looks ugly |
| 23:16.08 | KotCzarny | it's only for hi-res vids :) |
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| 23:28.11 | MipsIrv | has anyone yet run into and overcome mbuiter_multi errors yet? |
| 23:30.53 | pupnik | KotCzarny: there seems to be a speedup without the lores also -lavdopts fast:skiploopfilter=all:ec=0 |
| 23:31.17 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 23:31.25 | pupnik | a lot of untranscripted stuff at 512x384 is watchable, but dropping whenever there's a lot of motions |
| 23:31.34 | KotCzarny | but lores minimizes fb transfer |
| 23:32.01 | KotCzarny | and keep in mind that it was for my hires vids |
| 23:32.02 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 23:45.34 | pygi | hello folks |
| 23:45.52 | pygi | anybody who knows if one can change the web shop where discount code for n810 is valid? |
| 23:47.19 | KotCzarny | n810 had price cut recently |
| 23:47.23 | KotCzarny | ~100$ |
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| 23:50.21 | MipsIrv | minus $100 or only $100? ;) |
| 23:50.34 | KotCzarny | minus 100$ |
| 23:50.35 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:50.37 | pygi | KotCzarny, well, I have a code for 99Euro :) |
| 23:50.45 | pygi | but it applies only in AU shop :( |
| 23:50.58 | KotCzarny | but still, get n800 |
| 23:51.04 | KotCzarny | it's superior to n810 |
| 23:51.19 | KotCzarny | and for the price difference you can have REAL gps and nice bt kb |
| 23:51.20 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:51.21 | pygi | o com'on, I'm just looking how to switch validity of code, not buying n800 :) |
| 23:51.46 | shackan | KotCzarny: you can have a n800 and a gps and a keyboard for 99eu ? |
| 23:51.55 | shackan | shut up already :) |
| 23:52.26 | KotCzarny | pygi: is that code for n810 for a 99EUR or price-99EUR ? |
| 23:52.27 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:52.37 | shackan | pygi: as far as I know, you can't |
| 23:52.37 | pygi | KotCzarny, n810 for 99EUR |
| 23:52.42 | KotCzarny | wow |
| 23:52.52 | KotCzarny | ok. /me shuts up |
| 23:52.53 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:52.55 | pygi | shackan, ah, oki ... gotta find an AU contact then ... |
| 23:52.56 | f_mohr | nice .. i paid 400 |
| 23:52.58 | KotCzarny | (for a moment :) |
| 23:53.03 | MipsIrv | i'll take an 810 for 99EUR? who do i send the money to? |
| 23:53.25 | shackan | pygi: aren't you in croatia or something like that? |
| 23:53.32 | pygi | shackan, yes, so? :) |
| 23:53.35 | jku | MipsIrv, it's the developer program... |
| 23:53.45 | shackan | pygi: then why did you get and australian code? :D |
| 23:53.48 | MipsIrv | hmm really? |
| 23:53.54 | pygi | shackan, which one would I get? heh ... |
| 23:54.00 | pygi | shackan, no croatian code xD |
| 23:54.16 | shackan | now this is confusing |
| 23:54.26 | shackan | pygi: but it applies only in AU shop |
| 23:54.32 | jku | MipsIrv, there'll be a new program when next device comes out no doubt |
| 23:54.32 | pygi | shackan, ah, not australian, austrian :p |
| 23:54.41 | pygi | shackan, yea, I know, I had a contact who could get it for me there :) |
| 23:54.43 | pygi | shackan, AT* |
| 23:54.49 | pygi | ignore me, I'm silly, it's night :) |
| 23:54.58 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 23:55.22 | shackan | well, austria is about three hours by car, isn't it? |
| 23:55.38 | KotCzarny | jku: what is this dev-program about? |
| 23:55.40 | shackan | at least from slovenia |
| 23:56.13 | pygi | shackan, what's the point when ship address has to be somewhere in AT? |
| 23:56.24 | shackan | no relatives there? |
| 23:56.33 | doc|home | hmm, anyone know why the mic might not be working? |
| 23:56.42 | shackan | or friends.. |
| 23:56.51 | MipsIrv | ahhhhh.. if only i had time to contribute substantively and a desire to work within the current framework |
| 23:56.52 | doc|home | hmmm, or the speakers :/ |
| 23:56.55 | doc|home | for sip |
| 23:56.56 | jku | KotCzarny: "we want to offer the new Nokia N810 Internet Tablet to the most active contributors of the maemo community, as soon as possible and as affordably as possible. The N810 maemo device program starts *now* with 500 discount codes entitling their fortunate owners to get a device for 99â¬" |
| 23:56.58 | MipsIrv | i'd honestly like to see xfce on the device ;) |
| 23:57.20 | KotCzarny | jku: so it's some kind of lottery? |
| 23:57.21 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 23:57.26 | pygi | shackan, nop, only in germany :( |
| 23:57.30 | jku | KotCzarny, that was maemo.org news 2007-10-18 |
| 23:57.34 | KotCzarny | mips: there was a port i believe :) |
| 23:57.57 | KotCzarny | jku: i got mine ~2 weeks ago :) |
| 23:57.58 | MipsIrv | kotczarny: yeah.. but that's doesn't exactly support the maemo project |
| 23:58.20 | MipsIrv | i look at the trend in embedded devices.. and i think.. i'd like to see some of this stuff come to the desktop |
| 23:58.29 | shackan | like what? |
| 23:58.44 | MipsIrv | for the most part it is there.. just not packaged as well as it is for embedded devices |
| 23:58.45 | KotCzarny | you can put your nokia on the desktop.. |
| 23:58.46 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 23:59.17 | MipsIrv | for example.. i have my n800 right now to pop rss feeds for stocks and deals.. i'd like to see that in a task-bar for both my n800 and my desktop |
| 23:59.37 | MipsIrv | seems to be a big stink about pim functionality.. i'd also like to see that integrated in both |
| 23:59.41 | shackan | you mean, synch your feeds between both? |
| 23:59.58 | shackan | conduit will take care of that soon, I hope |
