| 00:00.08 | KotCzarny | nie tar |
| 00:00.08 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 00:01.28 | KotCzarny | seems faster |
| 00:01.29 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 00:01.46 | KotCzarny | or maybe not that much |
| 00:01.48 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:02.03 | KotCzarny | i have to make dpad working as a joy |
| 00:02.10 | KotCzarny | and map other keys |
| 00:02.26 | spirytusick | KotCzarny: feels faster, not much but noticeable :) |
| 00:02.36 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:02.41 | KotCzarny | but only fps test will tell |
| 00:03.16 | KotCzarny | would be great to use pcmtask directly.. |
| 00:03.17 | ccooke | Is there any way to get os2008 to open an internet radio stream at a particular time... |
| 00:03.22 | spirytusick | KotCzarny: I suppose some games should be playable, lemmings for sure, as soon as the mouse is calibrated :) |
| 00:03.24 | KotCzarny | esd incurs some overhead |
| 00:03.30 | ccooke | basically, an internet radio alarm clock :-) |
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| 00:04.16 | spirytusick | KotCzarny: yep + the hildon part which gp2x does not have to worry about too much |
| 00:04.35 | KotCzarny | i think it already used sdl_hw |
| 00:04.39 | KotCzarny | to render faster |
| 00:04.56 | KotCzarny | do you know if n800 have mmu? |
| 00:05.18 | spirytusick | KotCzarny: I suppose it has to have for the effictive swap management ? |
| 00:05.30 | spirytusick | KotCzarny: I know it can be done in software but it's not very effective |
| 00:05.49 | KotCzarny | my nokia seems warm |
| 00:05.51 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 00:05.52 | Jaffa | Interesting. According to the iPhone SDK HIG doc at http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/03/07/iphone-sdk-some-of-the-details-arent-great/ every iPhone app has a "launcher screen" configured which is displayed by the OS to increase the perceived speed of loading |
| 00:07.14 | sp3000 | perception is everything ;) |
| 00:07.32 | KotCzarny | yeah.. look ma'.. shiniess.. |
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| 00:13.54 | spirytusick | ok guys!! time to hit the showers.. see you tommorow |
| 00:13.58 | KotCzarny | go go |
| 00:13.59 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:14.00 | spirytusick | KotCzarny: 3m sie :) milego weekendu :) |
| 00:14.14 | KotCzarny | spox |
| 00:14.15 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 00:14.35 | Jaffa | sp3000: I think it's a clever idea; better than just a spinning "Web loading" |
| 00:15.31 | sp3000 | you mean "You're waiting" |
| 00:15.51 | sp3000 | ;) |
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| 00:17.27 | leandroal | ops! |
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| 00:33.40 | KotCzarny | hi texel |
| 00:33.41 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:33.45 | texel | Heya. |
| 00:33.55 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 00:33.57 | texel | Woo! =o) |
| 00:34.01 | texel | That's freaking awesome! =o0 |
| 00:34.04 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 00:34.08 | KotCzarny | with sound and mouse too |
| 00:34.10 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:34.12 | texel | Awesome. =o) |
| 00:34.15 | KotCzarny | yup |
| 00:34.16 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:34.18 | texel | Hildonized yet? =O) |
| 00:34.27 | KotCzarny | what for? |
| 00:34.28 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 00:34.31 | KotCzarny | has own gui |
| 00:34.32 | jott | hm well mouse has the usual problem :P |
| 00:34.35 | KotCzarny | and is fullscreen |
| 00:34.36 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:34.56 | texel | Ahh. Well, if it's fullscreen... =o) |
| 00:34.59 | KotCzarny | and eats through battery like mad |
| 00:35.00 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 00:35.33 | KotCzarny | btw. do you know preferable gcc flags for n800/ |
| 00:35.33 | texel | I only ask for Hildonization so you don't end up with the "hidden window" effect when you switch to another task. |
| 00:35.47 | KotCzarny | i made it behave i guess |
| 00:35.56 | KotCzarny | added x11app variable |
| 00:35.59 | KotCzarny | or something |
| 00:36.11 | jott | i wonder if there is an amiga-side solution for the mouse .. :/ |
| 00:36.22 | KotCzarny | jott: nope, only hacks |
| 00:36.30 | texel | So it shows up in the task list? |
| 00:36.32 | KotCzarny | like writing directly to ami ram current mouse pos |
| 00:36.37 | KotCzarny | texel: i can't check |
| 00:36.50 | KotCzarny | because i don't know how to get back to hildon |
| 00:36.51 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 00:36.57 | KotCzarny | other than quitting of course |
| 00:37.05 | KotCzarny | jott: wanna? |
| 00:37.08 | jott | runs quite nice :) |
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| 00:37.17 | jott | but mouse is unusable atm |
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| 00:37.23 | KotCzarny | jott: it is usable |
| 00:37.24 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:37.29 | texel | KotCzarny: Hmm... Press the task button? |
| 00:37.30 | jott | how? :) |
| 00:37.37 | KotCzarny | texel: no bonus |
| 00:37.39 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:37.42 | texel | Eh? |
| 00:37.46 | texel | As in, I fail? =op |
| 00:37.48 | KotCzarny | i think it overrides hildon |
| 00:37.52 | texel | Ahh. |
| 00:37.59 | KotCzarny | total fullscreen |
| 00:38.01 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:38.07 | texel | Crazy. =o) |
| 00:38.09 | texel | But awesome. =o) |
| 00:38.21 | texel | well, frack. |
| 00:38.27 | texel | Stupid FF3 won't print worth a damn. |
| 00:38.38 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:38.57 | texel | I keep trying to print my tickets, but unfortunately it keeps dumping out blank paper. O.o |
| 00:39.04 | jott | KotCzarny: do you have any pointer for fixing the mouse? |
| 00:39.13 | KotCzarny | texel: convert to ps/pdf ? :) |
| 00:39.25 | KotCzarny | jott: it's fixed in uae4all version i have found |
| 00:39.26 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:39.39 | texel | KotCzarny: tried that -- FF's print engine is completely busted. |
| 00:39.43 | texel | Even PS/PDF output is screwed. |
| 00:40.00 | KotCzarny | texel: huh, wget + any2ps ? |
| 00:40.02 | jott | KotCzarny: not really :P |
| 00:40.07 | KotCzarny | jott: have you tried it? |
| 00:40.14 | jott | running it yeah.. |
| 00:40.19 | texel | Eh. I just saved the page as an HTML collection and reopened in Safari. |
| 00:40.20 | KotCzarny | hmm |
| 00:40.24 | KotCzarny | let me get my lemmings |
| 00:40.27 | jott | i had to replace kick.rom for lemmings to start |
| 00:40.32 | texel | "Let's go!" |
| 00:40.33 | jott | is there a hack in kick.rom?! |
| 00:40.34 | KotCzarny | erm |
| 00:40.36 | KotCzarny | jott |
| 00:40.43 | KotCzarny | replace kick.rom with a rom |
| 00:40.51 | KotCzarny | load adf as usual in gui |
| 00:40.52 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:41.08 | jott | yeah.. lemmings started fine and is super smooth |
| 00:41.14 | texel | Hehe |
| 00:41.16 | jott | but the mouse is still relative.. |
| 00:41.23 | texel | Yeah, kick.rom is always the tricky part. |
| 00:41.27 | jott | hence it's unusable.. |
| 00:41.33 | KotCzarny | jott: fixable i guess |
| 00:41.34 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:41.43 | KotCzarny | it's a little off |
| 00:41.45 | KotCzarny | but works |
| 00:41.46 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:42.01 | KotCzarny | it's off because i have turned pixel doubling on |
| 00:42.13 | KotCzarny | and didn't updated mouse algo yet (i guess) |
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| 00:43.15 | KotCzarny | huh |
| 00:43.46 | jott | KotCzarny: does the mouse work for you? (i.e. absolute) |
| 00:43.55 | KotCzarny | yes i guess |
| 00:44.03 | KotCzarny | i have tried to move windows in wb |
| 00:44.12 | KotCzarny | but let me check |
| 00:44.25 | KotCzarny | (it's off because i have turned pixel doubling on and didn't updated mouse algo yet (i guess)) |
| 00:45.35 | KotCzarny | expansion ram detected and utilized |
| 00:45.36 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 00:46.51 | KotCzarny | texel: teaser: mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/uae/ |
| 00:48.41 | texel | Hehe |
| 00:48.56 | texel | Nice. |
| 00:49.16 | KotCzarny | uae.tar.gz is containing esddsp |
| 00:49.25 | KotCzarny | oss->esd wrapper |
| 00:49.26 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 00:54.49 | KotCzarny | relative mouse is ease (i guess) |
| 00:54.58 | jott | dosbox has the same problem |
| 00:55.06 | KotCzarny | as long as you can get mx/my from emu |
| 00:57.29 | jott | mh i suppose games might use a custom mouse handler? |
| 00:57.58 | KotCzarny | uae just writes to some hardwired address in emu ram |
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| 01:05.01 | Deformative | Bluetooth is pretty damn cool. |
| 01:05.09 | KotCzarny | works, sometimes |
| 01:05.10 | Deformative | Easiest way to get images off the phone. |
| 01:05.12 | KotCzarny | slow as hell |
| 01:05.18 | KotCzarny | nope, sshfs is easier |
| 01:05.28 | Deformative | MY PHONE. |
| 01:05.36 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 01:05.51 | jott | a phone without sshd is not a real phone :P |
| 01:06.14 | Deformative | It is a free phone. |
| 01:06.27 | KotCzarny | there's no such thing as free |
| 01:06.43 | Deformative | An included phone. |
| 01:07.22 | Deformative | (And what about the public domain?) |
| 01:07.45 | elb | I'm not sure how "sshfs" is "easier" than "bluetooth" |
| 01:08.01 | elb | that's like saying the highway is easier than a motorcycle |
| 01:08.20 | elb | or, more appropriately, a motorcycle is easier than the highway |
| 01:08.25 | KotCzarny | have you tried setting up bt? |
| 01:08.26 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 01:08.56 | Deformative | All I had to do was "scan for bluetooth devices" |
| 01:09.00 | Deformative | That was about it. |
| 01:09.20 | elb | maybe you mean something different from "bluetooth" when you say "bluetooth" |
| 01:09.36 | elb | perhaps you mean OBEX file transfer, KotCzarny ? |
| 01:09.57 | KotCzarny | and what he meant then? |
| 01:09.58 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 01:10.19 | elb | I don't know |
| 01:10.21 | KotCzarny | ; |
| 01:10.21 | KotCzarny | ) |
| 01:10.38 | elb | but note that OBEX is not nearly as painful on other platforms as it is on Linux |
| 01:10.44 | elb | which has royally craptastic OBEX support |
| 01:10.52 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 01:53.41 | KotCzarny | lol |
| 01:53.51 | johnx | ahahaha |
| 01:53.54 | johnx | that's awesome |
| 01:54.01 | KotCzarny | kind of |
| 01:54.02 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 01:54.20 | KotCzarny | johnx: have you seen uae i have found? |
| 01:54.20 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 01:54.35 | lcuk_2 | writeln("press any key to continue\n"); ;) |
| 01:54.42 | KotCzarny | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:54.50 | KotCzarny | this is sdl |
| 01:55.00 | KotCzarny | i mean key codes sdl sees |
| 01:55.06 | johnx | mm |
| 01:55.10 | KotCzarny | may be usefull |
| 01:56.56 | KotCzarny | i wonder if hw keys are a tiny kb or just hardwired bangs |
| 01:57.22 | johnx | I think they are a keyboard...or at least they are as far as Linux cares |
| 01:57.33 | johnx | they work in the console |
| 01:57.38 | KotCzarny | hum |
| 01:58.00 | KotCzarny | so there's a possibility for external ps2 port? |
| 01:58.00 | KotCzarny | ;) |
| 01:58.17 | johnx | yeah, over usb :P |
| 01:58.27 | KotCzarny | that would be usb port :P |
| 01:59.07 | johnx | with a usb->ps2 converter... |
| 01:59.20 | KotCzarny | and a usb->usb converter |
| 01:59.23 | KotCzarny | *grin* |
| 01:59.48 | johnx | heh...my setup is actually *more* complicated :/ |
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| 02:08.13 | dospod | suup |
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| 02:12.42 | dospod | anybody |
| 02:12.57 | dospod | know about the youtube plugin |
| 02:13.00 | dospod | ??? |
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| 02:21.00 | lcuk_2 | plugin? |
| 02:21.05 | KotCzarny | flash |
| 02:21.07 | KotCzarny | maybe |
| 02:21.07 | lcuk_2 | as in browser addin or the program |
| 02:21.08 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 02:21.35 | dospod | its for canola |
| 02:21.54 | lcuk_2 | ahhh dont use it - dont liek the flicker |
| 02:22.03 | dospod | they have a vid of it somewhere but no rrlease yet |
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| 02:22.40 | johnx | dospod, I thought I heard that it would be soon |
| 02:22.43 | dospod | canola beta 5 sux on scanning music |
| 02:23.03 | dospod | it was supposed to be last friday or today i thought |
| 02:25.34 | johnx | "sux" on scanning music? it works fine here... |
| 02:26.38 | jott | does it support collections (soundtracks etc.) now? |
| 02:27.07 | dospod | it has picked up 7 out of 200 songs |
| 02:27.20 | KotCzarny | medialibrary sucks. |
| 02:27.21 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 02:28.32 | dospod | and its a common bug in fresh beta 5 installations |
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| 03:40.41 | KotCzarny | whooo-hoooo! |
| 03:40.46 | KotCzarny | dpad works as joy :) |
| 03:41.00 | dospod | whoooo |
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| 03:51.46 | cLin | sanyone use car mounts for their nokia n8x0? |
| 03:51.57 | cLin | besides proclipusa, are there any other recommended companies? |
| 03:53.04 | k-s | dospod: possible one of our changes to lms broke for one of your media |
| 03:53.46 | dospod | i only get my daft punk :/ |
| 03:53.58 | k-s | dospod: for speed reasons we default to a big commit_interval, but if it break there, it will loose that amount of tracks (in the worst case) |
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| 03:54.21 | k-s | dospod: it would be great if you could identify which specific music trigger the problem |
| 03:54.25 | k-s | dospod: and mail us it |
| 03:54.47 | k-s | dospod: however I changed it a lot today and you should get some speedups even more, and some fixes as well |
| 03:55.00 | k-s | dospod: do you know scratchbox? |
| 03:55.15 | dospod | i know what it is |
| 03:55.35 | k-s | dospod: but do you have the skills to use it? |
| 03:55.45 | dospod | but i dont run linux and i dont have the sdk installed |
| 03:55.55 | k-s | dospod: ah, ok |
| 03:56.05 | k-s | dospod: do you have xterm on your device? |
| 03:56.10 | dospod | nope im a 15 script kiddie with a hacker toy |
| 03:56.25 | dospod | yes i have xterm |
| 03:57.26 | k-s | dospod: you can try to use python-lightmediascanner test.py to do some tests |
| 03:57.34 | k-s | I'll get a pointer to you, just a min... |
| 03:57.53 | dospod | thanks |
| 03:58.08 | KotCzarny | 0x893f93a |
| 03:58.12 | KotCzarny | ^ pointer |
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| 03:59.51 | k-s | dospod: http://staff.get-e.org/?p=users/barbieri/python-lightmediascanner.git;a=blob_plain;f=examples/test.py;hb=HEAD |
| 04:00.06 | k-s | dospod: download this file as test.py (or any name you want) |
| 04:01.58 | k-s | dospod: then go to xterm (or ssh) and run: python test.py 1 10000 /home/user/lms-test.db id3 ISO-8859-1 /media/PATH/TO/MUSIC |
| 04:02.31 | dospod | it hasnt even dled yet :/ |
| 04:02.45 | k-s | dospod: you can then check with "sqlite3 /home/user/lms-test.db" |
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| 04:03.32 | k-s | dospod: it's easier if you can isolate the media in smaller folders and try on them individually, remove the database between runs (rm /home/user/lms-test.db) |
| 04:03.55 | k-s | dospod: gotta run now, but post a bug report or mail me at barbieri at gmail |
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| 05:41.37 | christefano | can anyone help me check to see if my N810's GPS is working? I can't seem to get a GPS fix |
| 05:42.27 | pupnik | lay it out in the open, unobstructed by trees or buildings and wait 4 minutes |
| 05:43.29 | christefano | I'm not sure I waited 4 minutes. I'll try that |
| 05:43.47 | KotCzarny | pupnik: i hacked in dpad :> |
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| 06:00.35 | pupnik | cool |
| 06:01.00 | KotCzarny | wanna see it? |
| 06:01.01 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 06:01.06 | pupnik | yes |
| 06:01.39 | pupnik | it's faster than stock uae, yes? |
| 06:01.42 | KotCzarny | mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/uae/uae4all.gz |
| 06:01.45 | KotCzarny | i don't know |
| 06:01.50 | KotCzarny | but it's based on cyclone cpu emu |
| 06:01.54 | pupnik | ok i'll tell you |
| 06:01.55 | KotCzarny | so i guess yes |
| 06:01.56 | KotCzarny | :> |
| 06:02.19 | KotCzarny | replace binary from an earlier package with this one |
| 06:02.51 | KotCzarny | mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/uae/readme.txt |
| 06:03.22 | KotCzarny | mouse needs to be fixed |
| 06:03.37 | KotCzarny | but otherwise it's very playable |
| 06:04.15 | KotCzarny | superfrog ran ~10-30fps |
| 06:04.57 | pupnik | i don't have another uae4all install |
| 06:05.09 | pupnik | shall i follow your readme? |
| 06:05.12 | KotCzarny | yes |
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| 06:06.19 | pupnik | where do i get lib contents? |
| 06:06.37 | KotCzarny | hum |
| 06:06.39 | KotCzarny | moment |
| 06:06.58 | KotCzarny | refresh |
| 06:07.09 | pupnik | dank u wel |
| 06:07.25 | KotCzarny | danke schon ? ;) |
| 06:09.05 | pupnik | what rom version works? 1.2, 3.0? |
| 06:09.13 | KotCzarny | i ran 1.3 |
| 06:09.17 | KotCzarny | but i guess any will do |
| 06:09.34 | KotCzarny | just name or symlink it to kick.rom |
| 06:11.15 | pupnik | i have my own esddsp bin, but i want to use yours |
| 06:11.25 | KotCzarny | esddsp is a script |
| 06:11.33 | KotCzarny | i guess it's the lib that does the work |
| 06:11.40 | pupnik | ok i try it |
| 06:11.53 | pupnik | awesome |
| 06:11.56 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 06:12.13 | KotCzarny | works? |
| 06:12.44 | pupnik | yes selecting disk image |
| 06:13.16 | KotCzarny | i have started working #ifdef N8x0 over the code |
| 06:13.19 | pupnik | segfaulted on lemmings |
| 06:13.34 | KotCzarny | what nokia do you have? |
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| 06:13.45 | pupnik | n810 os2008 |
| 06:13.47 | KotCzarny | hum |
| 06:13.57 | KotCzarny | maybe it's the compile flags |
| 06:14.02 | pupnik | i try with gdb |
| 06:14.13 | dskippy | How do I install gstreamer-tools on maemo os2008? I have it in red pill mode and have enabled the extras packages. |
| 06:14.38 | KotCzarny | dskippy: apt-get install gstreamer-tools |
| 06:14.48 | dskippy | KotCzarny, Doesn't find it. |
| 06:14.56 | pupnik | KotCzarny: is there any sound playing in the uae4all menu? |
| 06:15.09 | dskippy | I'm pretty sure it's gstreamer0.10-tools but I did try both. |
| 06:15.15 | KotCzarny | pupnik: probably, but disabled for now |
| 06:18.43 | pupnik | ok there are no debugging symbols |
| 06:18.54 | KotCzarny | i can recompile |
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| 06:20.12 | pupnik | switching to SDL_HWSURFACE... done |
| 06:20.12 | pupnik | rmmod: mmuhack: No such file or directory |
| 06:20.12 | pupnik | insmod: can't open '-f': No such file or directory |
| 06:20.20 | pupnik | Using PAL timing |
| 06:20.20 | pupnik | Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) |
| 06:20.43 | KotCzarny | mmuhack is a gp2x fallout |
| 06:20.54 | pupnik | yeah it's not important |
| 06:21.01 | pupnik | but i need to see where it's segfaulting |
| 06:21.08 | pupnik | i have kick13.rom renamed to kick.rom |
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| 06:23.46 | KotCzarny | ah. btw. show me ls ? |
| 06:23.59 | KotCzarny | i mean ls -lR of the dir you're running from |
| 06:24.03 | KotCzarny | pastebin.com |
| 06:24.06 | KotCzarny | or #kotc |
| 06:24.22 | KotCzarny | it segfaults if data/*bmp are not accessible |
| 06:25.26 | KotCzarny | anyway, uae4all-g.gz |
| 06:25.34 | KotCzarny | same link |
| 06:25.56 | pupnik | http://pastebin.ca/933283 |
| 06:26.32 | KotCzarny | and how are you running it ? |
| 06:26.56 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:28.25 | KotCzarny | hum |
| 06:29.35 | KotCzarny | maybe try running it as root? |
| 06:30.00 | pupnik | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 06:30.00 | pupnik | [Switching to Thread 1073794048 (LWP 1431)] |
| 06:30.00 | pupnik | unrecognized_callback () at src/m68k/cyclone/m68k_intrf.cpp:231 |
| 06:30.00 | pupnik | 231 src/m68k/cyclone/m68k_intrf.cpp: No such file or directory. in src/m68k/cyclone/m68k_intrf.cpp |
| 06:30.16 | pupnik | odd |
| 06:30.44 | pupnik | (gdb) bt |
| 06:30.44 | pupnik | #0 unrecognized_callback () at src/m68k/cyclone/m68k_intrf.cpp:231 |
| 06:31.44 | KotCzarny | line 230: // This is from the dummy Kickstart replacement |
| 06:31.52 | KotCzarny | line 231: uae_u16 arg = *(uae_u16 *)(pc+2); |
| 06:31.58 | pupnik | maybe i try other rom |
| 06:32.12 | pupnik | lol wtf |
| 06:32.33 | KotCzarny | hmm? |
| 06:34.26 | KotCzarny | btw. source is the original source without my hacks |
| 06:34.32 | pupnik | i try a few disks to load |
| 06:34.33 | pupnik | oh |
| 06:34.33 | pupnik | hehe |
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| 10:51.26 | LinuxCode | morning ;-D |
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| 10:53.09 | jaska_ | found out the hard way that nand-test writes to flash even if not in r/w mode :) |
| 10:53.20 | jaska_ | good thing i didnt use it on the bootloader partition |
| 10:53.40 | johnx | O_o |
| 10:54.10 | johnx | close call, eh? |
| 10:54.18 | LinuxCode | johnx, use gpe ? |
| 10:54.27 | LinuxCode | if so there are two issues with evolution |
| 10:54.38 | LinuxCode | 1. there are 2 categories |
| 10:54.55 | LinuxCode | 1 a user category and one a to do list category |
| 10:54.57 | LinuxCode | as example |
| 10:55.10 | LinuxCode | only to do categories get synced |
| 10:55.19 | LinuxCode | then gpesynd crashes! |
| 10:55.25 | LinuxCode | when there are odd chars |
| 10:55.27 | johnx | neat |
| 10:55.36 | LinuxCode | specifically in contacts! |
| 10:55.38 | johnx | I keep all my PIM stuff in text files and sync with rsync :) |
| 10:55.42 | LinuxCode | otherwise its awesome |
| 10:55.48 | LinuxCode | ;-} |
| 10:55.55 | LinuxCode | I need to remake my contacts |
| 10:56.06 | LinuxCode | I imported them from a vcf I exported from my old mobile |
| 10:56.13 | LinuxCode | which probably is the issue anyway |
| 10:56.22 | LinuxCode | standards have changed I bet |
| 10:56.32 | johnx | ah...vcf support must be harder than it looks |
| 10:56.42 | johnx | it usually is that way when I don't know about things |
| 10:57.33 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 10:57.46 | LinuxCode | well thats just how I got my mobile crap out of the phone hehe |
| 10:57.53 | LinuxCode | never managed to sync it |
| 10:58.03 | LinuxCode | although people report it works |
| 10:58.24 | johnx | I didn't manage to get my stuff out of my last phone :/ |
| 10:58.55 | johnx | the stupid thing had no interface to the outside world except through GSM and I had no data plan |
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| 11:27.39 | Dazgard | hi |
| 11:28.18 | EvilGuru | Hi Dazgard |
| 11:28.29 | Dazgard | can i use my n800 to share it's internet connection with on pc using an usb cable please ? |
| 11:28.47 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 11:28.53 | KotCzarny | but you will need special usb cable |
| 11:29.09 | Dazgard | the n800 is connected to the net throught a wifi AP |
| 11:29.11 | Dazgard | :( |
| 11:29.41 | KotCzarny | ok. i'm off to bed |
| 11:30.00 | johnx | KotCzarny, what do you mean special usb cable? |
| 11:30.21 | johnx | Dazgard, are you using windows or linux on the pc? |
| 11:30.27 | Dazgard | linux |
| 11:30.47 | Dazgard | but i can use windows too, it's installed on some other partition |
| 11:30.59 | johnx | it's easier in linux :) |
| 11:31.12 | johnx | do you already have usb networking setup between the tablet and the linux desktop? |
| 11:31.42 | Dazgard | no |
| 11:31.49 | Dazgard | i never did it before |
| 11:32.04 | johnx | alright, then first follow this: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/setting_up_usb_networking.html |
| 11:32.19 | Dazgard | ok, im going to read this |
| 11:32.20 | johnx | what distro are you using? Debian/ubuntu? |
| 11:32.22 | Dazgard | thanks |
| 11:32.30 | Dazgard | ubuntu hardy |
| 11:33.05 | johnx | basically, what you'll need to do is first get usb networking, then you'll need to either build or find the iptables modules for the tablet that support NAT |
| 11:33.35 | johnx | this is of course all in theory since I haven't done it...but it *should* work |
| 11:34.13 | johnx | well, I've setup usb networking, but the internet sharing was the other direction, tablet borrowing inet access from the pc |
| 11:34.14 | Dazgard | ok, i'm going dig this :) |
| 11:34.36 | johnx | good luck. :) feel free to ask here if you get stuck |
| 11:35.12 | Dazgard | so the other direction should be fine too, i just need the right kerbel module |
| 11:36.49 | johnx | yeah, I would assume |
| 11:37.16 | johnx | and you'd need to add all the lines about iptables to the *tablet* instead of the *desktop*, the reverse of what that page I linked says |
| 11:40.30 | denny | heyla... I'm looking for an IRC client for my 810. It looks like xchat should be available, but the site maemo.org links to seems to be lacking any content... any suggestions? |
| 11:40.31 | pH5 | it would be cool if you could update that page once it works. |
| 11:40.57 | johnx | denny, google: xchat chinook beta |
| 11:41.27 | denny | ta |
| 11:41.43 | johnx | hmm...that used to give the repo as the first result O_o |
| 11:41.56 | johnx | s/repo/site/ |
| 11:42.15 | johnx | but now it's pushed out of the way by me talking about it in IRC :/ |
| 11:42.57 | denny | 2.8.4 ? |
| 11:43.02 | johnx | yeah |
| 11:43.05 | johnx | rm-fr.net |
| 11:43.25 | Dazgard | guys, i've this error : |
| 11:43.28 | Dazgard | insmod: cannot insert '/mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.21-omap1/g_ether.ko': Device or resource busy (-1): Device or resource busy |
| 11:43.38 | johnx | are you already plugged into USB? |
| 11:43.51 | Dazgard | oh, my god, shome on me |
| 11:43.52 | Dazgard | lol |
| 11:43.58 | johnx | :D |
| 11:44.04 | johnx | for once that message is actually accurate |
| 11:44.19 | denny | oh hey, where can I get some nice themes for this thing? and will a theme sort out the five-mile-wide scroll bar I seem to currently have? |
| 11:45.04 | johnx | first: there aren't many themes, but some are at downloads.maemo.org, second I don't think any of the current themes adjust scrollbar size |
| 11:45.06 | LinuxCode | I have a site |
| 11:45.12 | LinuxCode | not a repo though |
| 11:45.50 | denny | the scrollbar is about a cm thick on my screen - is that normal? it seems a bit silly when space is so tight |
| 11:46.01 | LinuxCode | johnx, wasnt it you who gave me that ?!?! |
| 11:46.30 | johnx | gave you what? |
| 11:46.36 | LinuxCode | xchat link |
| 11:46.47 | LinuxCode | or it was lcuk |
| 11:46.49 | johnx | yeah, but I always just tell people to google for it |
| 11:46.53 | LinuxCode | haha |
| 11:46.56 | LinuxCode | k |
| 11:47.16 | LinuxCode | http://zeus.rm-fr.net/~skyhusker/xchat-chinook-betas/ <-- |
| 11:47.21 | LinuxCode | for anyone reading |
| 11:47.44 | Dazgard | man, that internet tablet still amazed me to the top after 1 year !! |
| 11:47.47 | Dazgard | wonderful |
| 11:47.50 | johnx | and it *used to* show the right site as the first result, but the IRC logs of (mostly this channel) are now the first results :/ |
| 11:47.56 | LinuxCode | Dazgard, yep |
| 11:48.09 | LinuxCode | and with chinook...more and more appz become available |
| 11:48.13 | LinuxCode | every day |
| 11:48.21 | LinuxCode | its like x-mas every week |
| 11:48.26 | johnx | and hopefully chinook is the last really big API break |
| 11:48.31 | LinuxCode | seeing what each update brings |
| 11:49.00 | LinuxCode | http://kakaroto.homelinux.net/~kakaroto/n810/ <-- amsn for N810 |
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| 11:49.12 | LinuxCode | supports the webcam too |
| 11:50.07 | LinuxCode | things I use most are xchat, amsn, fbreader, gpe cal to-do etc.. gpesyncd, pdf/evince |
| 11:50.17 | LinuxCode | the shell obviously! |
| 11:50.22 | Dazgard | LinuxCode: amazing app :D |
| 11:50.57 | johnx | really not a fan of having to use the terminal on my N800 :/ it's probably the lack of included keyboard... |
| 11:51.03 | LinuxCode | ahh theres a vnc now too |
| 11:51.14 | LinuxCode | johnx, yeh ;-| |
| 11:51.22 | LinuxCode | I was pondering to buy the N800 |
| 11:51.25 | LinuxCode | as it was cheap |
| 11:51.32 | LinuxCode | but...I glad I did not! |
| 11:51.35 | LinuxCode | Im |
| 11:51.40 | LinuxCode | keybaord is awesome |
| 11:51.48 | LinuxCode | I play bomberman all the time using the keybaord haha |
| 11:51.53 | LinuxCode | and pengupop |
| 11:52.05 | LinuxCode | when im on the train on the way home |
| 11:52.08 | johnx | pengupop doesn't need a keyboard...and pingus is a blast |
| 11:52.34 | LinuxCode | hehe |
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| 11:55.08 | LinuxCode | I need to wipe my contacts |
| 11:55.12 | LinuxCode | and start from scratch |
| 11:55.21 | LinuxCode | see if they sync |
| 11:55.29 | LinuxCode | maybe best to move them out first hehe |
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| 11:59.48 | denny- | well that worked :-) |
| 12:00.15 | denny- | thanks for the link... catch you later |
| 12:00.22 | johnx | ah good. I should try it on my n800 now that I have a keyboard :) |
| 12:00.25 | johnx | 'later |
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| 12:00.55 | LinuxCode | john try what mate ? |
| 12:01.04 | johnx | xchat on the tablet :) |
| 12:01.07 | LinuxCode | ahh |
| 12:01.10 | LinuxCode | try gpe |
| 12:01.11 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 12:01.18 | LinuxCode | you know you want to |
| 12:01.25 | LinuxCode | DEPP DOWN |
| 12:01.28 | johnx | heh...so I can fix your problem with syncing? |
| 12:01.29 | LinuxCode | DEEP even |
| 12:01.32 | LinuxCode | naa |
| 12:01.35 | LinuxCode | nothing to fix mate |
| 12:01.40 | LinuxCode | well... |
| 12:01.49 | LinuxCode | gpesyncd needs a fix but it synces |
| 12:01.56 | johnx | ah, cool |
| 12:01.59 | LinuxCode | just have to remake my contacts |
| 12:02.12 | LinuxCode | atm im syncing by excluding contacts |
| 12:02.14 | LinuxCode | which is ok |
| 12:02.29 | LinuxCode | main this for me is |
| 12:02.32 | LinuxCode | thing |
| 12:02.38 | LinuxCode | todo + calendar |
| 12:02.56 | LinuxCode | <---- emental cheese memory |
| 12:03.00 | LinuxCode | emmental |
| 12:03.06 | LinuxCode | it has big holes! |
| 12:03.35 | johnx | yeah, I let my phone handle contacts |
| 12:16.00 | Dazgard | are there people with the nat module compiled please ? |
| 12:16.17 | Dazgard | would not like to go through teh whole compile precess :s |
| 12:16.57 | LinuxCode | Dazgard, I dont thing the N810 has kernel modules |
| 12:17.03 | LinuxCode | its compiled in |
| 12:17.05 | LinuxCode | afaik |
| 12:17.15 | Dazgard | im using the n800... lucky you :) |
| 12:17.29 | johnx | LinuxCode, what modules are you talking about? :P |
| 12:17.36 | LinuxCode | kerne modules ? |
| 12:17.39 | johnx | Dazgard, they run the same exact software... |
| 12:17.48 | Dazgard | the iptable nat module |
| 12:17.50 | LinuxCode | I thought the firmwares were static |
| 12:18.01 | johnx | LinuxCode, you're possibly a little confused :) |
| 12:18.08 | LinuxCode | more than likely |
| 12:18.09 | Dazgard | :) |
| 12:18.20 | LinuxCode | had a 36 hours deadline session the last days |
| 12:18.22 | johnx | Dazgard, let me see if fanoush compiled them |
| 12:18.24 | LinuxCode | no sleep |
| 12:18.29 | johnx | O_o |
| 12:18.42 | johnx | why hang out on IRC then? go to sleep man! |
| 12:18.51 | LinuxCode | i already did |
| 12:18.57 | Dazgard | lol |
| 12:19.06 | LinuxCode | wouldnt be here otherwise! |
| 12:19.12 | LinuxCode | just mybrain is dead |
| 12:19.14 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 12:19.20 | LinuxCode | brain drain |
| 12:19.21 | johnx | aaah...so you're dreaming you're on IRC? |
| 12:19.22 | LinuxCode | ;-p |
| 12:19.34 | Dazgard | hahaha, funny |
| 12:19.34 | LinuxCode | lol |
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| 12:21.08 | Dazgard | my n800 will act as a luxurious internet usb dongle for my home pc, wonderful |
| 12:21.45 | Dazgard | next i would like to develop an ardour remote controler based on python and OSC :D |
| 12:21.47 | johnx | alright, I'll see if I can get the NAT/iptables stuff to compile, but no guarantees :P |
| 12:21.57 | Dazgard | cool :) |
| 12:22.01 | Dazgard | thanks man |
| 12:22.24 | johnx | no promises...if I can't get it to compile easily I won't spend a lot of time on it. :) |
| 12:22.34 | Dazgard | no problem |
| 12:22.48 | LinuxCode | I need a wroking QEMU SDK appliance |
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| 12:23.07 | LinuxCode | my vmware is stupid |
| 12:23.12 | LinuxCode | cant flatten a vmware image |
| 12:23.22 | LinuxCode | the app crashes ;-| |
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| 12:26.40 | johnx | great...scratchbox is screwed up |
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| 12:27.15 | johnx | errr...nope, just PEBKAC |
| 12:27.53 | Dazgard | sad news |
| 12:28.02 | johnx | heh |
| 12:28.28 | Dazgard | i think i'll install qemu and use the vmware applaince :s |
| 12:29.34 | johnx | do you know what PEBKAC means? |
| 12:29.37 | LinuxCode | johnx, whats the pebkac |
| 12:29.43 | LinuxCode | mayeb thats my issue |
| 12:29.56 | johnx | problem exists between keyboard and chair :) |
| 12:29.59 | LinuxCode | nooo |
| 12:30.04 | johnx | as in, it didn't work because I was being dumb :D |
| 12:30.05 | LinuxCode | whats the PEBKAC! |
| 12:30.12 | LinuxCode | as in THE |
| 12:30.16 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 12:30.56 | LinuxCode | hang on a sec |
| 12:31.13 | LinuxCode | did you say...its me before ? or did you have a pebkac moment ? |
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| 12:31.37 | LinuxCode | eating lunch doesnt help that confusion |
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| 12:31.50 | johnx | as in...I was complaining about scratchbox but I realized the problem was me |
| 12:31.55 | LinuxCode | k |
| 12:31.58 | LinuxCode | what was the problem |
| 12:32.00 | LinuxCode | ? |
| 12:32.12 | johnx | trying to compile the kernel while scratchbox was in x86 mode |
| 12:32.18 | LinuxCode | ahh ok |
| 12:32.24 | LinuxCode | I cant even get it to work |
| 12:32.32 | johnx | where do you get stuck? |
| 12:32.35 | LinuxCode | which is proabbly more due to the fact that there missing files |
| 12:32.58 | LinuxCode | it says something about error on line 66 |
| 12:33.03 | LinuxCode | havent got it loaded atm |
| 12:33.18 | LinuxCode | but there were other errors...stating missing files |
| 12:33.24 | LinuxCode | which probably is related |
| 12:33.29 | LinuxCode | I tell ya in a few |
| 12:33.47 | johnx | mmm...pizza |
| 12:33.49 | Dazgard | :) |
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| 12:39.53 | LoCusF | how do I list all installed packages? |
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| 12:41.10 | johnx | dpkg --get-selections |
| 12:42.44 | johnx | Dazgard, well it's compiling O_o ... You'll get to be the guinea pig though. :D |
| 12:43.02 | LinuxCode | ohh wait |
| 12:43.08 | LinuxCode | I fucked around with this one |
| 12:45.48 | Dazgard | lol |
| 12:46.13 | Dazgard | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:46.40 | johnx | alright, once it finishes compiling I'll have to figure out a way to send you the modules... |
| 12:48.37 | LinuxCode | johnx, rsync ? |
| 12:48.43 | LinuxCode | straight into his N810 |
| 12:48.45 | LinuxCode | heheh |
| 12:48.57 | LinuxCode | or whatever hes suing |
| 12:49.31 | johnx | heh |
| 12:51.56 | Dazgard | dcc ? |
| 12:53.11 | Dazgard | i've a little problem... my n800 is out of batery :s |
| 12:53.25 | johnx | charging it might help :) |
| 12:53.38 | Dazgard | and i've only my car charger |
| 12:53.49 | johnx | no regular charger? |
| 12:55.22 | johnx | anyways, it's a 576KB tar.bz2 for the modules |
| 12:55.31 | johnx | I can email them to you or dcc them I guess |
| 12:56.31 | Dazgard | johnx: no i pass it to someone at walk, and the guy just take it to his home :) |
| 12:57.03 | pupnik | awesome ... james pond |
| 12:57.04 | Dazgard | send the on dazgard At gmail dot com plz |
| 12:57.30 | johnx | alright |
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| 13:00.40 | johnx | Dazgard, sent. |
| 13:02.57 | LoCusF | johnx: ok |
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| 13:04.39 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 13:04.45 | LinuxCode | just kidding |
| 13:05.35 | Dazgard | cool men |
| 13:06.21 | Dazgard | i'll have to go to the car to charge this little toy |
| 13:06.56 | Dazgard | and next, if you 'are still here, i'll elt you know about the sucess/error story :) |
| 13:07.16 | johnx | alright |
| 13:07.19 | johnx | good luck |
| 13:07.25 | LinuxCode | they didnt give you a charger for the N800! |
| 13:07.26 | LinuxCode | wtf |
| 13:07.41 | LinuxCode | what country you live in ? |
| 13:08.04 | LinuxCode | probably south africa... a way to save energy |
| 13:08.07 | LinuxCode | cuning plan |
| 13:08.11 | johnx | someone borrowed it from him... |
| 13:08.13 | LinuxCode | sell devices without chargers |
| 13:08.16 | LinuxCode | ahh |
| 13:08.22 | LinuxCode | thieved ? |
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| 13:08.36 | lcuk_2 | 5 fingered discount |
| 13:08.39 | johnx | I think just forget to give it back... |
| 13:08.46 | LinuxCode | "forget" |
| 13:08.52 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, oi! |
| 13:08.59 | lcuk_2 | oi yourself |
| 13:09.00 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, didnt you use gpe ? |
| 13:09.27 | LinuxCode | because I figured the issue out |
| 13:09.32 | lcuk_2 | i only use gpe when i skydive, otherwise i dont like falling to earth |
| 13:09.32 | LinuxCode | two issues actually |
| 13:10.18 | lcuk_2 | ive never used gpe.. should i be? |
| 13:10.27 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 13:10.28 | LinuxCode | k |
| 13:10.47 | LinuxCode | N810 doesnt have a to do list |
| 13:10.50 | johnx | LinuxCode is our local gpe salesman |
| 13:10.52 | johnx | :D |
| 13:10.52 | LinuxCode | or calendar |
| 13:11.12 | LinuxCode | johnx, well...a pda needs a cal+contacts+todo |
| 13:11.19 | lcuk_2 | todo list = notes, calendar = hmmm dunno cos i dont need one |
| 13:11.24 | LinuxCode | but then maybe thats why they called it an IT |
| 13:11.27 | lcuk_2 | i agree with that |
| 13:12.12 | lcuk_2 | higher priority though is kidnapping skype guy and supergluing an 810 to his hands so he has to use it - we would have video soon after |
| 13:12.27 | lcuk_2 | (and an arrest warrant, but thats minor) |
| 13:12.33 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 13:12.45 | LinuxCode | I thought that often myself |
| 13:12.54 | johnx | and restraining orders, lawyer's fees, jail time...lcuk_2 what have you gotten us into?! |
| 13:12.54 | LinuxCode | not ebing able to use webcam = stupid |
| 13:13.02 | LinuxCode | johnx, its the Uk |
| 13:13.07 | LinuxCode | legal aid is for that |
| 13:13.14 | LinuxCode | and the udge will sya..it was for the greater good |
| 13:13.15 | lcuk_2 | yes johnx, its solicitors fees |
| 13:13.17 | LinuxCode | judge |
| 13:13.29 | lcuk_2 | the rest is right tho ;) |
| 13:13.30 | LinuxCode | 30 hours community service |
| 13:13.34 | LinuxCode | heheh |
| 13:13.49 | lcuk_2 | and a prison issue hoodie "Property of HMP" |
| 13:13.55 | LinuxCode | lool |
| 13:14.15 | LinuxCode | naa the judge wil have a N810 |
| 13:14.29 | LinuxCode | and think...why isnt there webcam support on my skype |
| 13:14.29 | lcuk_2 | nahhh judges play ds |
| 13:14.33 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 13:14.46 | LinuxCode | a game called "Bobo" ? |
| 13:14.52 | LinuxCode | rofl |
| 13:15.03 | lcuk_2 | you see them playing mario sonic at olympics and furiously scribbling just under the table |
| 13:15.09 | LinuxCode | some amiga games are still awesome |
| 13:15.25 | LinuxCode | thats whats missing |
| 13:15.31 | LinuxCode | a UAE emu |
| 13:15.36 | lcuk_2 | ive seen a few people talking about getting uae working on here |
| 13:15.39 | Dazgard | LinuxCode: talking about amiga games |
| 13:15.53 | lcuk_2 | but i would want native games |
| 13:15.59 | LinuxCode | then id make myself an adapter lol |
| 13:16.04 | lcuk_2 | i didnt buy this device for it to become another mame machine |
| 13:16.09 | LinuxCode | for my usb competition pro |
| 13:16.23 | lcuk_2 | native =the way to go - we just have to find people willing to code directly for it |
| 13:16.52 | jott | what's so bad about emulation? :) |
| 13:17.18 | jott | making a good game is not a weekend project.. |
| 13:17.21 | lcuk_2 | platforms with a high priority in emulation show the device cannot stand on its own merits |
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| 13:18.02 | lcuk_2 | good games CAN be wrote in a weekend - the artwork around them however takes longer :) |
| 13:18.12 | lcuk_2 | unless you are rolf harris |
| 13:18.22 | Dazgard | there was a game with a little ship |
| 13:18.24 | jott | level design, balance, sound/music, ... etc.etc |
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| 13:18.40 | Dazgard | do someone know the name |
| 13:18.53 | lcuk_2 | but if you have had a pet project in mind for a while then it will come together - and if enough people have a desire to do it then it will work |
| 13:19.08 | Dazgard | i do know whith only that, it'll be pretty hard to guess with one |
| 13:19.15 | Dazgard | but i've not other info |
| 13:19.45 | jott | i see no point in writing games _only_ for the ITs :p |
| 13:20.05 | lcuk_2 | nor do i - but writing new software is good |
| 13:21.22 | lcuk_2 | i can only speak from a book perspective (because thats what i am looking towards) but fbreader is multi platform, but whilst its basic rendering technology works its sluggish as hell with most books i read. im building something specific for now which will work well within the bounds of what we have |
| 13:21.40 | jott | there are actually very few programs that make sense to develop with only ITs in mind.. |
| 13:22.04 | lcuk_2 | similar to how we used to code for amiga or spectrum - multi platform targetting is good as long as you dont sacrifice the best of what your original platform has to offer |
| 13:22.11 | jott | and i guess you could make fbreader fast enough to be usable without loosing platform abstraction |
| 13:22.42 | johnx | it's funny, because it isn't as slow on a zaurus... |
| 13:22.53 | lcuk_2 | aim for me is to write a specific reading engine then see how i can get that into fb and make use of best of all worlds |
| 13:23.11 | lcuk_2 | its the rendering tree and 800*480 from sdl |
| 13:23.14 | johnx | but when the zaurus is in "portrait" mode that's the native rotation for its LCD... |
| 13:23.48 | lcuk_2 | native rotation be damned, its only blitting glyphs(sprites) onto a canvass |
| 13:24.30 | johnx | lcuk_2, but doesn't fbreader seem to render faster in landscape than portrait on the n8x0? |
| 13:24.31 | lcuk_2 | and the 8x0 also has native rotation built into the lcd, its just not used because of sdl |
| 13:24.46 | johnx | hmm "not used because of sdl" |
| 13:24.51 | johnx | elaborate please... |
| 13:25.10 | jott | sdl does not support hardware rotation :) |
| 13:25.37 | johnx | aaah...so it needs to be abstracted somewhere |
| 13:25.43 | lcuk_2 | sdl does not support telling it to open a fullscreen window rotated 270 degrees although if you configure the framebuffer correctly you can send data in normal order and have the lcd rotate it for you |
| 13:26.18 | johnx | I think the fbreader guy probably doesn't want to get that close to the hardware O_o |
| 13:26.23 | jott | actually sdl should really be optimized for the ITs.. :) |
| 13:26.29 | lcuk_2 | YES |
| 13:26.43 | lcuk_2 | but that means getting a maintainer for it |
| 13:26.54 | lcuk_2 | because you couldnt just do it once |
| 13:27.09 | johnx | KotCzarny built an x server / fb driver with the fb rotation patches that were up |
| 13:27.21 | johnx | I should poke at him to let me test those |
| 13:27.24 | jott | johnx: i did so too :) |
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| 13:27.30 | LinuxCode | jott, backward patching ? |
| 13:27.32 | johnx | ah, cool |
| 13:27.38 | jott | johnx: http://sse2.net/roate |
| 13:27.44 | lcuk_2 | now, ive gone lower than sdl and am using x and xv - its a YUV format, so booked are greyscale but i gain 25fps+ fullscreen tear free 800*480 frames |
| 13:27.48 | LinuxCode | by timing a few years back ..altering events ? |
| 13:27.57 | jott | (i even wrote a statusbar rotation app :P |
| 13:28.02 | lcuk_2 | if i decide to lower the res i gain 50fps+ frames of a lower res *automatically scaled* |
| 13:28.05 | jott | quite usable |
| 13:28.16 | LinuxCode | link dont work |
| 13:28.17 | lcuk_2 | yes jott |
| 13:28.21 | johnx | jott, how badly does hildon-desktop break? :) |
| 13:28.32 | lcuk_2 | yours uses a .ko though doesnt it |
| 13:28.32 | johnx | LinuxCode, spelling :) |
| 13:28.40 | LinuxCode | ohh |
| 13:28.43 | LinuxCode | rotate |
| 13:28.45 | LinuxCode | lolol |
| 13:28.45 | jott | johnx: well the menu is not really usable but for most things its really ok |
| 13:28.56 | jott | (like browsing using fbreader etc) |
| 13:29.07 | johnx | so apps seem to cope with it ok for the most part? |
| 13:29.17 | johnx | that's very encouraging news |
| 13:29.25 | lcuk_2 | how quickly does it switch jott? is it usable to go from 0rotated desktop to 90deg fullscreen app in the blink of an eye? |
| 13:29.29 | jott | as the rotation is managed by the randr extension there the rotation is instant so you can easily rotate at runtime |
| 13:29.39 | jott | rotation takes ~1 sec |
| 13:30.09 | jott | johnx: yeah for most part it works.. some dialogs are too wide .. |
| 13:30.21 | lcuk_2 | i believe it can be done inter frame by poking the ioctl on the framebuffer - ive started to follow xv down the line at the moment to possibly allow it |
| 13:30.32 | johnx | good news for getting maemo on the vga zauruses then :D |
| 13:30.46 | jott | hehe.. yeah as the menu is closed source anyway :P |
| 13:30.57 | johnx | the menu? |
| 13:31.03 | jott | or is it open? |
| 13:31.19 | jott | application launcher |
| 13:31.24 | johnx | the side bar, top bar, and app menu are open |
| 13:31.30 | lcuk_2 | speaking of which - i get the xv sources from x11 dont i? and do they include the omap/blizzard specific source? |
| 13:31.30 | johnx | browser and communications menu are closed |
| 13:31.36 | jott | ah ok.. |
| 13:31.53 | jott | anyway. the app menu would need some tweaking.. |
| 13:32.11 | johnx | I just dropped the whole left bar for now |
| 13:32.16 | lcuk_2 | stone bloke from nokia said there were lots of hard coded 800*480s in the closed source |
| 13:32.26 | johnx | takes up 80 freakin' pixels |
| 13:32.36 | lcuk_2 | a whole 80 :O |
| 13:32.39 | lcuk_2 | ;) |
| 13:32.40 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 13:32.48 | johnx | well, I don't care about the closed source anyways |
| 13:32.57 | johnx | 80 is a lot on a 640x480 screen |
| 13:33.07 | johnx | 80 pixels is a lot vertically for the tablet |
| 13:33.14 | jott | even more on a 480x640 screen ;) |
| 13:33.22 | jott | ;> |
| 13:33.22 | johnx | heh |
| 13:33.26 | LinuxCode | 640 ? |
| 13:33.27 | lcuk_2 | its still higher res than an iphone |
| 13:33.39 | lcuk_2 | and *they* manage ok |
| 13:33.51 | johnx | LinuxCode, i'm poking at hildon-desktop for the zaurus |
| 13:33.55 | LinuxCode | ohh |
| 13:34.00 | johnx | lcuk_2, it's not *that* bad in terms of hardcoded-ness |
| 13:34.02 | LinuxCode | traitors |
| 13:34.04 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 13:34.06 | johnx | the theming is just really ugly |
| 13:34.07 | lcuk_2 | fair enough |
| 13:34.34 | lcuk_2 | mmmmmm mini laptop http://img99.imageshack.us/my.php?image=810cratelaptopmodetc6.jpg |
| 13:34.40 | LinuxCode | but then again |
| 13:34.50 | LinuxCode | the more devices..the more developers..the more distros |
| 13:34.58 | LinuxCode | the better for the software |
| 13:35.03 | LinuxCode | the better for the users |
| 13:35.05 | johnx | LinuxCode, exactly |
| 13:35.13 | LinuxCode | still...traitors |
| 13:35.15 | LinuxCode | lolol |
| 13:35.17 | LinuxCode | ;-D |
| 13:35.18 | LinuxCode | hahaha |
| 13:35.22 | johnx | and the zaurus users could really use a source of new apps |
| 13:35.49 | johnx | lcuk_2, your laptop is made of *wood* ... just so you know... |
| 13:36.16 | LinuxCode | looool @ pic |
| 13:36.17 | LinuxCode | bahaha |
| 13:36.21 | LinuxCode | wtf |
| 13:36.21 | lcuk_2 | dont forget the elastic band |
| 13:36.27 | LinuxCode | hahaha |
| 13:36.36 | LinuxCode | does that come in the package ? |
| 13:36.43 | LinuxCode | a bag of rubber bands |
| 13:36.44 | LinuxCode | ? |
| 13:36.45 | LinuxCode | lolol |
| 13:36.57 | LinuxCode | with Nokia written on the bands |
| 13:37.01 | lcuk_2 | well it stops it boinking me on the head when im reading at night |
| 13:37.02 | johnx | get some duct tape on there and I'll call it a winner |
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| 13:37.58 | LinuxCode | that keybaord is nice |
| 13:38.11 | LinuxCode | what is it ? |
| 13:38.24 | johnx | apple bt keyboard |
| 13:38.39 | LinuxCode | nice |
| 13:38.44 | LinuxCode | be nicer if one coul;d fold it |
| 13:38.52 | johnx | oh you can |
| 13:38.58 | LinuxCode | ahh cool |
| 13:38.58 | johnx | it just doesn't unfold |
| 13:39.02 | LinuxCode | hahaha |
| 13:39.05 | LinuxCode | ok! |
| 13:39.06 | LinuxCode | ;-p |
| 13:39.21 | LinuxCode | isnt it shocking |
| 13:39.39 | LinuxCode | to think that a device like the N810 is like half the size of a small keyabord |
| 13:39.40 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 13:40.01 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 13:40.56 | LinuxCode | nice just ordered food..its being delivered tomorrow |
| 13:41.01 | LinuxCode | one job less to do |
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| 14:13.07 | Dazgard | im leaving, i'll be back soon, with the charged tablet |
| 14:13.18 | Dazgard | and the working gateway i hope |
| 14:13.21 | Dazgard | see you later |
| 14:13.33 | Dazgard | and once again thanks |
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| 14:27.32 | pupnik | LinuxCode: amiga emulation is coming soon |
| 14:27.45 | pupnik | thanks to KotCzarny |
| 14:28.14 | pupnik | not the crap i built (UAE) |
| 14:28.24 | LinuxCode | sweet! |
| 14:28.40 | LinuxCode | cant wait to play giana sisters on the train then hehe |
| 14:28.43 | pupnik | the games are all too fast for me now :) |
| 14:28.48 | pupnik | oh gotta try that |
| 14:28.53 | LinuxCode | or |
| 14:28.55 | LinuxCode | hostages |
| 14:28.57 | LinuxCode | or |
| 14:29.02 | LinuxCode | man endless possibilities |
| 14:29.04 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 14:29.10 | pupnik | i was looking for a good amiga RPA |
| 14:29.12 | pupnik | RPG |
| 14:29.42 | h3sp4wn | Is there a way I can run risc os (fits in 2mb written in arm asm so should be fast) |
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| 14:30.19 | LinuxCode | pupnik, hmm |
| 14:30.24 | LinuxCode | sindbad |
| 14:30.25 | LinuxCode | ? |
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| 14:30.38 | LinuxCode | that looked quite good back then |
| 14:31.03 | pupnik | i see some, Eye of the Beholder, Dungeon Master, World of Legends, Realms of Arkania - Blade of Destiny |
| 14:31.06 | pupnik | ok thanks |
| 14:31.15 | LinuxCode | deja vu |
| 14:31.19 | LinuxCode | if you like it oldschool |
| 14:31.19 | pupnik | Just bought a cd of 500 amiga games for 5 euro |
| 14:31.28 | LinuxCode | pupnik, why ? |
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| 14:31.42 | LinuxCode | http://www.planetemu.net/ |
| 14:32.34 | LinuxCode | click on amiga under "ordis" |
| 14:32.40 | LinuxCode | on the right |
| 14:32.49 | LinuxCode | then under roms |
| 14:32.52 | LinuxCode | amiga -games |
| 14:33.27 | LinuxCode | how soon will that amiga emu be ? |
| 14:33.29 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 14:33.54 | pupnik | trying to get it closer to 30fps |
| 14:34.11 | LinuxCode | 30fps! |
| 14:34.14 | LinuxCode | bloody hell |
| 14:34.16 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 14:34.23 | LinuxCode | quake has 8 or so ?!?! |
| 14:34.25 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 14:34.35 | LinuxCode | so I read |
| 14:34.39 | pupnik | well 25 would be nice for pal games |
| 14:34.46 | LinuxCode | ahh k |
| 14:34.57 | LinuxCode | ;-D |
| 14:35.27 | pupnik | but really i need to finish my nes emu port |
| 14:35.32 | LinuxCode | will it be similar to e-uae ? |
| 14:35.36 | pupnik | that's rockin at 95-105fps |
| 14:35.40 | pupnik | not really |
| 14:35.54 | LinuxCode | but one can select uae games yes ? |
| 14:36.01 | pupnik | yes in-game menu |
| 14:36.04 | LinuxCode | k |
| 14:36.14 | pupnik | also there's no 2nd mouse button |
| 14:36.18 | LinuxCode | and it knows the joypad thing is the mouse and joystick ? |
| 14:36.24 | pupnik | the tablet layout just sux for fast games |
| 14:36.42 | LinuxCode | did amiga even have 2 seperate mouse buttons ?!?! |
| 14:36.43 | pupnik | yeah he made the dpad double as joystick and arrow keys |
| 14:36.49 | LinuxCode | I thought it was one |
| 14:36.56 | pupnik | oh.. hmm |
| 14:37.08 | lcuk_2 | no - apple was 1 button |
| 14:37.08 | pupnik | i just read something about button 2 - i forghot :) |
| 14:37.09 | lcuk_2 | amiga had 2 |
| 14:37.21 | lcuk_2 | big old dopey tank of a mouse with a click you could hear from orbit |
| 14:37.24 | LinuxCode | I recall a distinct pain in my right finger |
| 14:37.31 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, hahaha |
| 14:37.40 | LinuxCode | and it made you cry with pain |
| 14:37.55 | LinuxCode | playing games like defender of the crown |
| 14:38.02 | lcuk_2 | no - it was first computer i had with a native mouse - it made me smile |
| 14:38.10 | LinuxCode | pupnik, I hope that amiga emu supports two floppies |
| 14:38.17 | lcuk_2 | i had a mouse on my spectrum but that only worked with one program |
| 14:38.18 | LinuxCode | ;-D |
| 14:38.25 | LinuxCode | defender of the crown would own |
| 14:38.34 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, hehe |
| 14:38.35 | pupnik | no it only has 1 floppy but you can swap |
| 14:38.38 | lcuk_2 | and pupnik, if you are doing amiga emulation, make sure you make the memory stick port click |
| 14:38.40 | LinuxCode | I never had a speccy |
| 14:38.50 | LinuxCode | speccies were more a UK thing |
| 14:38.56 | LinuxCode | I grew up abroad |
| 14:39.04 | lcuk_2 | lucky for some |
| 14:39.22 | LinuxCode | pupnik, hmmm k |
| 14:39.25 | LinuxCode | ;-| |
| 14:39.27 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 14:39.48 | LinuxCode | fortunately..most games come on one disc |
| 14:40.06 | LinuxCode | hahaha |
| 14:40.11 | LinuxCode | I can play barabrian then |
| 14:40.17 | LinuxCode | "Prepare to die!" |
| 14:40.22 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 14:40.28 | LinuxCode | "ding...ding....ding" |
| 14:40.53 | LinuxCode | pupnik, are you know e-uae |
| 14:41.03 | LinuxCode | any idea why my menu might not work ? |
| 14:41.11 | LinuxCode | ohh wait |
| 14:41.19 | LinuxCode | there was a gtk2 compile issue |
| 14:41.23 | LinuxCode | which I didnt get |
| 14:41.32 | LinuxCode | despite specifiying where it should look |
| 14:41.34 | LinuxCode | for the headers |
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| 14:41.50 | pupnik | you built e-uae LinuxCode ? |
| 14:41.54 | LinuxCode | yeh |
| 14:41.57 | LinuxCode | had to |
| 14:42.01 | pupnik | hehe |
| 14:42.01 | LinuxCode | but the menu wont show |
| 14:42.11 | pupnik | can you launch a game from commandline? |
| 14:42.17 | LinuxCode | I use the amd64 thing to save the settings then start my e-uae |
| 14:42.25 | LinuxCode | I built for x86_64 |
| 14:42.32 | LinuxCode | as Im using a quad core |
| 14:42.33 | LinuxCode | intel |
| 14:42.45 | LinuxCode | pupnik, it works |
| 14:42.49 | LinuxCode | just not the menu bit |
| 14:43.00 | lcuk_2 | lol @ thought of supergluing a quadcore onto the back of n810 ;) |
| 14:43.20 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, lol |
| 14:44.09 | pupnik | do you have e-uae on the tablet? |
| 14:44.09 | lcuk_2 | oi! you knocked my H off |
| 14:44.18 | LinuxCode | pupnik, no |
| 14:44.20 | LinuxCode | I wish |
| 14:44.27 | pupnik | i think osemutech built it |
| 14:44.36 | LinuxCode | ohh! |
| 14:44.39 | LinuxCode | theres a link ?!?! |
| 14:44.43 | LinuxCode | for N810! |
| 14:44.47 | LinuxCode | GIMME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 14:44.49 | LinuxCode | please |
| 14:45.09 | lcuk_2 | its a shame we cant do a cross convert - arm asm looks suspiciously similar to 68k |
| 14:45.11 | pupnik | i don't know where it is |
| 14:45.22 | LinuxCode | pupnik, ohh noes |
| 14:45.26 | LinuxCode | you got me all excited |
| 14:45.28 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/uae.html |
| 14:45.28 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 14:45.32 | johnx | LinuxCode, up on itt somewhere I'm sure |
| 14:45.35 | pupnik | you can try that but it's not so hot |
| 14:45.38 | LinuxCode | FND IT...OW! |
| 14:46.04 | pupnik | i think everybody needs to try my uae |
| 14:46.23 | pupnik | so they will better appreciate KotCzarny's work |
| 14:46.44 | LinuxCode | General: iPhone s/w wishlist: They want what we already have! (4) by tz |
| 14:46.44 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 14:47.11 | lcuk_2 | apple sdk is restricted to 1 user app and no background processing |
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| 14:47.30 | lcuk_2 | http://pupnik.de/uae.html |
| 14:47.34 | lcuk_2 | pup, will try it now :) |
| 14:48.13 | pupnik | I think there will still be a place for the general UAE on the tablets |
| 14:48.25 | pupnik | since it does 68020 and more resolutions |
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| 14:49.02 | lcuk_2 | 680ec20 surely ;)( |
| 14:49.06 | lcuk_2 | -( |
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| 14:51.48 | lcuk_2 | where is uae installed to pup? |
| 14:52.01 | lcuk_2 | im running from the shortcut but nothings happening ill run the command line |
| 14:52.09 | lcuk_2 | if i know where it is |
| 14:52.15 | pupnik | /usr/bin/uae |
| 14:52.16 | pupnik | sorry |
| 14:52.37 | lcuk_2 | its ok - it ran without a path i got ruther from command line than with the shortcut |
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| 14:53.58 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:54.07 | pupnik | wb KotCzarny |
| 14:54.20 | lcuk_2 | where on earth would i find a workbench disk, and even once i have one how do i hook up a floppy drive ;0 |
| 14:54.34 | KotCzarny | just for a moment |
| 14:54.45 | KotCzarny | have you hacked anything interesting? |
| 14:54.54 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 14:55.06 | johnx | lcuk_2, usb floppy drive? |
| 14:55.09 | KotCzarny | lcuk: google |
| 14:55.30 | lcuk_2 | yer i know ill dig one out from somewhere - i could probably even get my original |
| 14:56.10 | KotCzarny | i have transferred all my floppies using amos program i wrote :> |
| 14:56.19 | KotCzarny | and serial link ;) |
| 14:56.37 | pupnik | i tried various compile flags KotCzarny - need some way to get fps over the run of the game |
| 14:56.45 | lcuk_2 | dont like how its using 16bit graphics by default tho - planar to chunky is expensive - it should be trying for the 2bp versions and a quick lookup table |
| 14:57.13 | KotCzarny | pupnik: getting around oss->esd could be one way |
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| 14:57.27 | KotCzarny | ie. hacking proper pcmtask support, or alsa |
| 14:57.29 | lcuk_2 | (for desktop) for games 5bpp should be enough |
| 14:57.45 | lcuk_2 | or did most use halfbright? |
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| 14:58.10 | pupnik | i see define NUM_DRIVES 2 in uae.h |
| 14:58.32 | pupnik | i need to do sound for fceu2 so maybe i will have a good backend sometime |
| 15:01.34 | LinuxCode | http://www.planetemu.net/index.php?section=roms&dat=375 |
| 15:02.01 | KotCzarny | i should add a note about 512kb rom |
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| 15:02.54 | pupnik | KotCzarny: i think it'd be best to map the menu to the front 'menu' button maybe |
| 15:03.09 | pupnik | some games need joy button 2 i think? |
| 15:03.22 | KotCzarny | pupnik: that's work in progress |
| 15:03.24 | pupnik | i think menu is F4 - not sure |
| 15:03.30 | KotCzarny | i will make it configurable later |
| 15:04.24 | KotCzarny | ok, bbl |
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| 15:08.11 | LinuxCode | pupnik, installing mate |
| 15:08.13 | LinuxCode | ;-} |
| 15:09.03 | LinuxCode | ohh |
| 15:09.08 | LinuxCode | menu icon too |
| 15:09.33 | LinuxCode | hmmm |
| 15:09.46 | LinuxCode | i click the icon..it says loading..but nothing happens |
| 15:09.57 | pupnik | yeah it's broken, dunno why |
| 15:10.28 | LinuxCode | menu has more than one floppy |
| 15:10.35 | LinuxCode | I thought ya said it dont work ? |
| 15:12.15 | LinuxCode | now i need a rom file |
| 15:14.06 | pupnik | LinuxCode: this new emu seems to have only one floppy |
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| 15:26.34 | florian | hi tigrux |
| 15:26.53 | tigrux | florian: Nice to see you here! |
| 15:27.43 | florian | tigrux: yeah, long time no see... how are you? |
| 15:27.48 | LinuxCode | im such a moron |
| 15:27.52 | LinuxCode | couldnmt find my cable |
| 15:27.54 | LinuxCode | ;-[ |
| 15:28.01 | LinuxCode | it was tucked behnd some folder |
| 15:28.26 | tigrux | florian: I can complain. I work in a company that is developing the multimedia part of the linux systems for Texas Instruments, for its embedded with linux. |
| 15:28.58 | florian | tigrux: this sounds pretty good indeed |
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| 15:33.41 | lcuk_2 | hmm how do i ensure sprintf doesn't exceed my buffer, is there a sprintnf ? |
| 15:34.13 | florian | lcdd: snprintf |
| 15:34.24 | lcuk_2 | excellent thanks |
| 15:37.56 | LinuxCode | how do i make amiga boot ? |
| 15:38.04 | truls | turn on power |
| 15:38.28 | LinuxCode | truls, comedian ? |
| 15:38.31 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 15:38.36 | truls | no, couchpoteta |
| 15:38.40 | truls | poteto |
| 15:38.41 | truls | almost the same |
| 15:38.44 | truls | less pay |
| 15:42.10 | LinuxCode | hmmmm |
| 15:42.18 | LinuxCode | nothing happens |
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| 15:44.14 | LinuxCode | hmmmm |
| 15:46.58 | LinuxCode | pupnik, my rom wont even show the wrokbench |
| 15:47.06 | LinuxCode | i tried two |
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| 15:47.39 | pupnik | heh sux |
| 15:47.40 | pupnik | :/ |
| 15:47.44 | LinuxCode | wait |
| 15:47.51 | LinuxCode | maybe the files didnt transfer right |
| 15:48.03 | LinuxCode | for some odd reason they sometimes dont transfer |
| 15:48.33 | Proteous | plug in the cable next time |
| 15:48.34 | LinuxCode | shows 200kb |
| 15:48.37 | LinuxCode | should be ok |
| 15:48.52 | LinuxCode | Proteous, another comedian ? |
| 15:48.58 | Proteous | :P |
| 15:49.01 | LinuxCode | did I miss something today ? |
| 15:49.05 | LinuxCode | World comedian day ? |
| 15:49.18 | Proteous | no one told me, I'll have to step it up |
| 15:50.00 | LinuxCode | pupnik, did you try this on a N810 ? |
| 15:50.07 | LinuxCode | or did you just compile |
| 15:50.08 | LinuxCode | ? |
| 15:51.47 | pupnik | sux doesn't it |
| 15:51.56 | LinuxCode | an amiga emu for N810 would be the icing on the cake |
| 15:52.02 | pupnik | what rom version btw? |
| 15:52.03 | LinuxCode | iceing |
| 15:52.07 | LinuxCode | tried 1.2 |
| 15:52.09 | LinuxCode | 1.3 |
| 15:52.16 | LinuxCode | which one did you try ? |
| 15:52.18 | pupnik | ok those should work |
| 15:52.20 | pupnik | both |
| 15:52.40 | pupnik | i'll test here again |
| 15:52.45 | LinuxCode | from the gui right ? |
| 15:52.51 | pupnik | yes |
| 15:52.53 | LinuxCode | k |
| 15:52.56 | LinuxCode | just checking |
| 15:52.57 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 15:53.14 | LinuxCode | maybe name limit ? |
| 15:53.20 | LinuxCode | mine are named quite long |
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| 15:54.29 | pupnik | oh give them short names without strange characters |
| 15:55.08 | pupnik | do you see the 'insert floppy' image? |
| 15:57.11 | LinuxCode | yep |
| 15:57.50 | LinuxCode | hmmm |
| 15:57.57 | pupnik | works 4 me |
| 15:58.02 | LinuxCode | is the workbench image supposed to show ? |
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| 15:58.05 | pupnik | yes |
| 15:58.59 | LinuxCode | hmmm |
| 15:59.10 | LinuxCode | ive got my amiga stuff on the mmc2 |
| 15:59.50 | pupnik | how many bytes is your bios image? |
| 16:00.03 | pupnik | should be 524288 |
| 16:00.09 | LinuxCode | sec |
| 16:00.39 | LinuxCode | my rom files are 256kb |
| 16:00.43 | LinuxCode | but they work |
| 16:00.52 | LinuxCode | because I ran them on this machine |
| 16:00.54 | pupnik | ok some emus can't use those packed roms |
| 16:01.03 | LinuxCode | hmm |
| 16:01.19 | LinuxCode | lets try kickstart 2.0 then |
| 16:02.18 | LinuxCode | hmmm |
| 16:03.28 | LinuxCode | hallelujah |
| 16:03.33 | LinuxCode | found some orig grabs |
| 16:03.33 | LinuxCode | sec |
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| 16:05.07 | LinuxCode | does the reset button work ? |
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| 16:06.27 | pupnik | not really since you can't get back to the launch menu |
| 16:06.45 | LinuxCode | last try |
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| 16:07.36 | LinuxCode | nope |
| 16:07.39 | LinuxCode | stays black |
| 16:08.08 | LinuxCode | terminal says |
| 16:08.15 | LinuxCode | Using Normal image buffer |
| 16:08.26 | t_s_o | heh, i take it people are playing around with a amiga emulator? |
| 16:08.34 | LinuxCode | yes sir |
| 16:08.50 | LinuxCode | pupnik, whats your settings |
| 16:08.57 | LinuxCode | before I give up |
| 16:09.02 | t_s_o | hmm, now i got the silly idea of embedding a N800 inside the case of a A500 :P |
| 16:09.33 | LinuxCode | 68010 are the size of the n810 sizeways |
| 16:09.35 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 16:09.44 | LinuxCode | 5 of them = size of N810 in total |
| 16:09.46 | pupnik | default settings |
| 16:09.56 | LinuxCode | k renaming rom again |
| 16:09.58 | pupnik | do you see the kick rom loader image? |
| 16:10.20 | LinuxCode | no workbench if thats what ya mean |
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| 16:10.47 | pupnik | ok yes |
| 16:10.57 | pupnik | the hand holding the blue floppy |
| 16:11.09 | LinuxCode | thats the workbench icon yes |
| 16:11.10 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 16:12.33 | dskippy | I have a .deb package I've created for my project. It requires python2.5 and python2.5-gstreamer. These dependancies are not being installed automatically when I install my debian file. In fact, when I try to apt-get install the two of them I get errors and it suggests "apt-get -f install". Doing that works. Doesn't anyone know how I can make my debian file work without requiring the user to run the apt-get -f install |
| 16:12.34 | LinuxCode | k |
| 16:12.35 | LinuxCode | lets see |
| 16:13.06 | LinuxCode | k I tell ya what I do |
| 16:13.15 | LinuxCode | start uae..add rom into rom field |
| 16:13.20 | LinuxCode | cpu load goes up |
| 16:13.37 | pupnik | what is size of the rom file? |
| 16:13.38 | LinuxCode | terminal shows 1866 CPU functions |
| 16:13.42 | LinuxCode | 512kb |
| 16:14.29 | LinuxCode | Building cpu function tabel |
| 16:14.39 | LinuxCode | using 16bit visual.... |
| 16:14.48 | LinuxCode | using normal image buffer |
| 16:15.25 | Stskeepz | dskippy: something tells me you dont have the repositories enabled that contains python2.5? |
| 16:16.30 | konttori | dskippy: did you install from a local deb?? |
| 16:16.46 | konttori | Application manager doesn't support installing dependencies from locally stored debs |
| 16:17.24 | konttori | Although, if you create a repository on your mmc, then you can install also dependencies |
| 16:20.09 | LinuxCode | pupnik, hmm |
| 16:20.10 | LinuxCode | nada |
| 16:20.18 | LinuxCode | what did you build this on ? |
| 16:20.26 | LinuxCode | im using default nokia flash |
| 16:20.56 | LinuxCode | what dependencies does this have ? |
| 16:21.04 | LinuxCode | sdl ? |
| 16:22.44 | pupnik | hm |
| 16:23.01 | LinuxCode | odd isnt it |
| 16:23.04 | LinuxCode | ;-| |
| 16:23.20 | pupnik | well it sucks anyway... i do like the frontend though |
| 16:23.26 | LinuxCode | haha |
| 16:23.28 | LinuxCode | ;-[ |
| 16:23.35 | pupnik | def needs tweaking on the memory tab |
| 16:23.35 | LinuxCode | I dont want it to suck |
| 16:24.09 | LinuxCode | getting amiga games to play on the N810 would be the sex |
| 16:24.12 | pupnik | well the source is on my page |
| 16:24.25 | pupnik | but don't spend too much time with this |
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| 16:25.50 | LinuxCode | pupnik, out of curiosity |
| 16:25.58 | LinuxCode | run it and ctrl-c it |
| 16:26.14 | pupnik | that gets you to a debugger |
| 16:26.21 | LinuxCode | then quit the app |
| 16:26.30 | LinuxCode | glib warning |
| 16:26.39 | pupnik | yeah - what do those mean? |
| 16:26.39 | LinuxCode | gtk_is_notebook |
| 16:26.44 | LinuxCode | get that ? |
| 16:26.53 | pupnik | k i;'ll test |
| 16:27.13 | pupnik | cool |
| 16:27.14 | LinuxCode | probably because uae disappeared |
| 16:27.22 | pupnik | the errors keep on coming |
| 16:27.25 | LinuxCode | yeh |
| 16:27.41 | pupnik | i think i need to free-up something on program close |
| 16:27.45 | LinuxCode | dunno if that helps |
| 16:27.48 | pupnik | thanks |
| 16:27.49 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 16:27.51 | LinuxCode | np |
| 16:28.08 | pupnik | but i'm dropping it |
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| 16:33.53 | LinuxCode | I will pay Nokia 1 million for a amiga emu |
| 16:33.58 | LinuxCode | in pizza crumbs |
| 16:36.07 | lcuk_2 | 1 million kenyan dollars |
| 16:36.57 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, hehe |
| 16:37.02 | LinuxCode | is that worth anything |
| 16:37.26 | lcuk_2 | well, if you have no toilet paper it might be |
| 16:37.30 | lcuk_2 | but otherwise im not so sure |
| 16:37.35 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 16:37.52 | LinuxCode | I just pay them in zimbabwe money |
| 16:38.00 | LinuxCode | it will be worth 1 million one day |
| 16:38.18 | LinuxCode | by the time I pay them it will be worth a roll of toilet paper |
| 16:38.56 | LinuxCode | pitty a uae would have been the icing on the cake |
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| 16:39.13 | pupnik | hhahah |
| 16:39.26 | LinuxCode | that would have pawned anything |
| 16:39.31 | pupnik | not to be mean but there's work to be done man |
| 16:39.39 | LinuxCode | yeh I know |
| 16:39.43 | LinuxCode | just saying ;-D |
| 16:39.51 | LinuxCode | giving encouragement |
| 16:39.58 | pupnik | meanwhile everyone needs to dance with heidi. http://youtube.com/watch?v=n4lW19A4Hlk |
| 16:40.11 | pupnik | hehehe |
| 16:40.27 | pupnik | heidi, heidi, komm nach haus, find dein glück. komm doch wieder zurueck! |
| 16:40.29 | pupnik | total kitsch |
| 16:40.55 | pupnik | but biene maja may be even better |
| 16:40.59 | LinuxCode | I wouldnt decline a girl called heidi |
| 16:41.06 | LinuxCode | if she wants to find her glueck with me |
| 16:41.21 | LinuxCode | doing rude acts |
| 16:41.25 | LinuxCode | you get the drift |
| 16:41.28 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 16:41.30 | LinuxCode | ;-p |
| 16:41.40 | LinuxCode | the drift* |
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| 16:41.48 | LinuxCode | wtf |
| 16:41.56 | LinuxCode | I corrected somethign I already wrote |
| 16:41.58 | LinuxCode | hahaha |
| 16:42.14 | pupnik | hahaha |
| 16:42.15 | LinuxCode | must be after effects from last week |
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| 17:24.40 | pupnik | http://www.talk2myshirt.com/blog/archives/category/accessories/keyboard Fabric Keyboards |
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| 17:25.39 | Navi | pupnik, lol |
| 17:25.59 | pupnik | hi navi |
| 17:26.12 | Navi | Hullo |
| 17:26.20 | pupnik | a bit pricy though |
| 17:27.52 | pupnik | Snoop Dog in lederhosen: http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/snoop.jpg |
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| 17:38.56 | pupnik | I'd like to see maemo running on the pandora someday |
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| 17:48.23 | magicrobotmonkey | how to i make the arrows scroll instead of jump to links in tne browser in os2008' |
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| 17:58.37 | aquatix | anyone tried gpasman? [password manager] |
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| 18:05.40 | zoran | sky is blue |
| 18:05.45 | zoran | s/blue/red/ |
| 18:06.17 | zoran | folks, I need help for something not related to maemo, but infobot |
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| 18:06.50 | lcuk_2 | magicrobotmonkey, i have something installed which makes the cursor keys do page up down but i cant find it now |
| 18:10.58 | lcuk_2 | http://www.russellbeattie.com/blog/paging-in-n800n810s-mozilla-browser |
| 18:11.17 | lcuk_2 | this appears to do it, but i managed to find a .deb which made the changes required and haven't looked back since |
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| 18:25.34 | vivijim | hi |
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| 18:26.39 | ccooke | ... In the default os2008 chat app, is it normal for contacts not to be synced from - say - AIM, Yahoo etc? |
| 18:28.32 | pupnik | grbdbl no gcda files coming out |
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| 18:35.09 | pupnik | you wierdos who use the tablet for what it was intended.... |
| 18:35.36 | LinuxCode | ccooke, ?!? |
| 18:35.40 | LinuxCode | using what ?!?! |
| 18:35.49 | ccooke | LinuxCode: the default chat app |
| 18:35.56 | LinuxCode | I dont use that |
| 18:36.05 | LinuxCode | my thing doesnt even support aim |
| 18:36.07 | LinuxCode | yaho |
| 18:36.11 | ccooke | well, pidgin looked to be *terribly* slow |
| 18:36.16 | LinuxCode | or are we talking about pidgin here ? |
| 18:36.21 | ccooke | LinuxCode: it does, if you install the packages for it |
| 18:36.22 | LinuxCode | guess not |
| 18:36.24 | ccooke | pidgin is unusable |
| 18:36.32 | LinuxCode | ccooke, and the package was ? |
| 18:38.50 | ccooke | account-plugin-haze |
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| 18:41.09 | LinuxCode | ohh noes |
| 18:41.13 | LinuxCode | my pipe symbol is gone |
| 18:41.15 | LinuxCode | damn |
| 18:42.44 | LinuxCode | anybody recall what a pipe was called |
| 18:42.47 | LinuxCode | vtab ? |
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| 18:42.52 | LinuxCode | vt ? |
| 18:43.20 | LinuxCode | hmm |
| 18:44.12 | LinuxCode | vbar |
| 18:44.57 | LinuxCode | bar it is! |
| 18:46.09 | LinuxCode | no such package |
| 18:46.15 | LinuxCode | where did you get it from ? |
| 18:47.10 | LinuxCode | google doesnt know about it either |
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| 18:49.57 | ccooke | LinuxCode: give me a moment and I'll find out... |
| 18:50.13 | LinuxCode | cool ta |
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| 18:53.03 | ccooke | LinuxCode: It's from one of the more standard repos on gronmayer |
| 18:55.55 | LinuxCode | ccooke, found it mate |
| 18:56.03 | LinuxCode | does this require blue pill mode ? |
| 18:56.45 | LinuxCode | nmi find out hehe |
| 18:57.06 | LinuxCode | mental laziness creeping in |
| 19:00.27 | LinuxCode | nooooo |
| 19:00.32 | LinuxCode | still no irc! |
| 19:00.34 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 19:00.38 | LinuxCode | everything else but that |
| 19:01.47 | ccooke | looks like I should be using rtcom instead, anyway |
| 19:03.17 | LinuxCode | hmmm |
| 19:03.21 | LinuxCode | adding account doesnt work |
| 19:03.29 | LinuxCode | says no accounts set up |
| 19:03.40 | ccooke | restart, and you'll see a non-working account there :-) |
| 19:04.34 | LinuxCode | non-working ? |
| 19:04.35 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 19:08.09 | LinuxCode | nada |
| 19:08.18 | LinuxCode | does this have a dependency ?!?! |
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| 19:10.35 | pupnik | woot -fprofile-generate kicked ass |
| 19:10.42 | pupnik | maybe 10-20% speed increase |
| 19:11.34 | ccooke | LinuxCode: Take a look at rtcom-beta-os2008 |
| 19:11.41 | ccooke | LinuxCode: which I'm looking at now |
| 19:11.57 | GNUton | Hi |
| 19:12.06 | ccooke | LinuxCode: Needs red pill mode, IIRC |
| 19:15.04 | LinuxCode | i think i will stick to amsn + xchat |
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| 19:18.06 | LinuxCode | but good to see something happening |
| 19:18.14 | LinuxCode | was a bit disappointing |
| 19:18.25 | LinuxCode | most peopleuse all sorts of IM |
| 19:18.27 | fysa | http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/08/asus-ms71-couldnt-choose-between-mouse-and-flash-drive/ |
| 19:18.50 | fysa | this could be a perfect carry-with mouse for the N800. ;) |
| 19:25.05 | LinuxCode | brb reboot |
| 19:25.24 | pupnik | lets make led blink when accessing amiga floppy :P |
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| 19:57.01 | ccooke | LinuxCode: Seems to be working, by the way |
| 19:57.17 | LinuxCode | with rfcom beta ? |
| 19:57.19 | ccooke | LinuxCode: my old AIM account imported correctly just now |
| 19:57.20 | ccooke | yes |
| 19:57.22 | LinuxCode | cool |
| 19:57.33 | ccooke | had to install via the command line... and dist-upgrade afterwards |
| 19:57.38 | LinuxCode | if it had irc id be sold |
| 19:57.50 | ccooke | it does |
| 19:57.55 | LinuxCode | it does ? |
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| 19:58.33 | LinuxCode | its not in the list |
| 19:58.55 | ccooke | full list I see is: AIM, Ekiga(SIP), FreeWorldDialup (SIP), Google Talk, ICQ, IRC, Jabber, Link-local XMPP, MSN, SIP, sipphone.com and Yahoo. |
| 19:59.28 | LinuxCode | i dont see that |
| 19:59.36 | LinuxCode | in account setup ? |
| 19:59.39 | ccooke | yes |
| 19:59.44 | ccooke | did you install rfcom-beta? |
| 19:59.50 | LinuxCode | no |
| 20:00.02 | ccooke | then you wouldn't be expecting to see that list, would you? :-) |
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| 20:00.22 | LinuxCode | well that acoount haze package added options |
| 20:00.34 | ccooke | yes, but it's only part of the full update |
| 20:00.37 | LinuxCode | so id assume it would add that too |
| 20:00.42 | LinuxCode | ahhh |
| 20:00.43 | LinuxCode | k |
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| 20:04.50 | admin_ | Hey, isit possible to install OS2008 onto the n770 at this time? |
| 20:05.55 | pupnik | no |
| 20:06.24 | pupnik | it is possible to install OS2008HE |
| 20:06.57 | LinuxCode | fuck it |
| 20:07.14 | admin_ | is it worth it pupnik ? |
| 20:07.19 | LinuxCode | now i can sync gpe |
| 20:07.51 | LinuxCode | its not such a big deal anymore |
| 20:08.08 | pupnik | never tried it admin_ |
| 20:08.13 | admin_ | ah |
| 20:08.31 | pupnik | you using os2007he? |
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| 20:09.51 | admin_ | no, just plain '06 |
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| 20:14.05 | pupnik | same here |
| 20:14.15 | pupnik | but integrating apps in to the 06 menu is kind of a pain |
| 20:14.28 | LinuxCode | hey pupnik .. that issue might be arch related |
| 20:14.41 | pupnik | ? |
| 20:14.46 | LinuxCode | I have a e-uae compiled for amd64..dont work on intel |
| 20:14.54 | LinuxCode | compiled my own ..works |
| 20:15.04 | LinuxCode | it also stays black and dies...the amd64 |
| 20:15.07 | LinuxCode | but the menu shows |
| 20:15.15 | pupnik | you are using n800 LinuxCode ? |
| 20:15.18 | LinuxCode | i have to save and then use mine to play |
| 20:15.21 | LinuxCode | no n810 |
| 20:15.28 | pupnik | ok same here |
| 20:15.34 | LinuxCode | hmm k |
| 20:16.12 | LinuxCode | ok rtcom installed |
| 20:16.24 | LinuxCode | and indeed it shows irc |
| 20:16.25 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 20:16.26 | LinuxCode | wicked |
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| 20:22.45 | LinuxCode | AHa |
| 20:22.48 | LinuxCode | Hahah |
| 20:22.52 | ccooke | any good? |
| 20:23.02 | LinuxCode | On the n810 now |
| 20:23.06 | LinuxCode | Yeh |
| 20:23.08 | LinuxCode | Heheh |
| 20:23.27 | LinuxCode | Wish the nicks were on the right though |
| 20:25.27 | LinuxCode | /Whois linuxcode |
| 20:25.36 | LinuxCode | Hmm |
| 20:25.39 | LinuxCode | Heheh |
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| 20:26.28 | admin_ | how do I flash a FIASCO image, I have that flasher program |
| 20:27.40 | LinuxCode | Hey can somebody say something in 10 seconds ? |
| 20:27.45 | pupnik | ? |
| 20:27.56 | LinuxCode | Thx |
| 20:28.01 | pupnik | heh |
| 20:28.05 | LinuxCode | It makes a sound |
| 20:28.17 | LinuxCode | But does not show the led |
| 20:28.20 | LinuxCode | Hmmm |
| 20:28.24 | LinuxCode | Pitty |
| 20:28.31 | LinuxCode | 8) |
| 20:28.40 | LinuxCode | :) ;) 8) :X |
| 20:28.43 | admin_ | oh, got it |
| 20:28.43 | LinuxCode | Lol |
| 20:28.52 | LinuxCode | Got icons though |
| 20:29.04 | keesj | admin_: :) |
| 20:29.27 | admin_ | dang, seems so slow, sending rootfd image @ 643 kB/s |
| 20:29.34 | admin_ | *rootfs |
| 20:30.03 | keesj | I removed he2008, |
| 20:30.37 | keesj | swichted back to 2007 and still have problems with the wifi |
| 20:30.46 | admin_ | heh |
| 20:30.57 | admin_ | yeah, I hve wifi probs, can't connect to some networks :/ |
| 20:31.46 | keesj | the good new is that I will be running mamona perhaps as soon as next week |
| 20:31.47 | admin_ | OMG, it's done :D |
| 20:31.52 | admin_ | ooo the kernel bar is blue |
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| 20:33.03 | LinuxCode | Hmmm |
| 20:33.17 | LinuxCode | Can only use one account though |
| 20:33.21 | admin_ | oo it's pretty :D |
| 20:33.33 | admin_ | well, I'm still doing setup |
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| 20:37.15 | admin_ | hmm |
| 20:37.21 | admin_ | it's very nice, but kinda slow :P |
| 20:38.57 | jott | admin_: i think you have to enable swap to make 2008he usable |
| 20:39.10 | admin_ | think that's why it's a bit slow? |
| 20:39.35 | jott | yeah.. the ones using it told so |
| 20:39.49 | admin_ | hmm ok |
| 20:40.53 | KotCzarny | re |
| 20:41.07 | admin_ | omg, hey KotCzarny |
| 20:41.11 | KotCzarny | hi |
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| 20:41.49 | Tama^2 | Hello |
| 20:43.12 | molkko | can I some see whats the N800 battery charging status like in off-the-shelf ubuntu command acpi tells the status |
| 20:43.27 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 20:43.28 | molkko | some=somehow |
| 20:43.33 | KotCzarny | but you will have to use my util |
| 20:43.34 | KotCzarny | :) |
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| 20:44.02 | molkko | and its expensive I guess |
| 20:44.31 | KotCzarny | well |
| 20:44.34 | KotCzarny | that depends |
| 20:45.09 | KotCzarny | how much do you have? |
| 20:45.24 | molkko | I can tell the battery level to you in return |
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| 20:46.49 | KotCzarny | sounds good |
| 20:48.20 | KotCzarny | mrrau.dyndns.org:23280/n800/kcbatt/kcbatt |
| 20:48.37 | KotCzarny | what it really shows is battery voltage |
| 20:49.31 | KotCzarny | so percentage is estimated |
| 20:49.50 | KotCzarny | battery empty starts around 350 |
| 20:49.58 | KotCzarny | battery full is around 550 |
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| 20:52.08 | KotCzarny | ah, and it has to be updated to show charging status |
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| 20:54.45 | molkko | updated? I just run that suspicious executable and output is sensible: retu-adc #8:559 batt: 95% ====== |
| 20:55.07 | molkko | battery is more than full |
| 20:55.20 | KotCzarny | it's just my guessing |
| 20:55.30 | KotCzarny | as i said retu-adc show battery voltage |
| 20:55.34 | KotCzarny | not 'remaining charge' |
| 20:55.45 | KotCzarny | but it can be estimated from voltage |
| 20:56.13 | KotCzarny | while charging it can to up to ~600-620 |
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| 21:00.53 | spirytusick | helo :) |
| 21:01.03 | spirytusick | hello to be exact :) |
| 21:01.06 | admin_ | hey guys, how do I pair up my n770 through bluetooth, but the other thing has no PIN |
| 21:01.11 | spirytusick | yo Kot |
| 21:01.15 | KotCzarny | ehlo |
| 21:01.52 | spirytusick | KotCzarny: Do you sleep at all ;-) |
| 21:02.04 | KotCzarny | an hour or two |
| 21:02.15 | spirytusick | admin_: the other side usually has a default pin, try 0000 or 1111 or 1234 |
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| 21:03.03 | spirytusick | KotCzarny: Have you made any progress with uae ? |
| 21:03.08 | KotCzarny | yes, i guess |
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| 21:04.50 | *** topic/#maemo is development platform for Nokia Internet Tablets | http://freedesktop.org/Software/sbox2/Maemo | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | http://www.gronmayer.com/it | http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/chinook |
| 21:05.03 | KotCzarny | assuming you have esddsp and data dir already |
| 21:05.11 | jott | KotCzarny: any solution for the mouse? just started to look into it.. |
| 21:05.20 | KotCzarny | jott: awfull. |
| 21:05.33 | KotCzarny | ami supports max movements per update of +/-127 |
| 21:05.40 | spirytusick | yep i do have those already |
| 21:06.00 | KotCzarny | and to get more one need to do mousehack |
| 21:06.05 | KotCzarny | and it's ugly. |
| 21:06.27 | jott | with mousehack the mouse jumps around :& |
| 21:06.28 | spirytusick | KotCzarny: I suppose if the mouse cannot be hacked easily then perhaps you can use one of the top keys to switch dpad modes between joystick and mouse emulation ? |
| 21:06.40 | spirytusick | so the curson can be moved with dpad |
| 21:06.43 | spirytusick | cursor |
| 21:07.05 | jott | yuck.. dpad is so unusable for anything but scrolling :P |
| 21:07.42 | spirytusick | jott: yep but for the time being it might suffice, I suppose without someone from amiga community rewriting mousehack for maemo specificaly |
| 21:07.52 | spirytusick | it's gonna be hard to emulate the mouse correctly... |
| 21:08.13 | jott | maemo is nothing special |
| 21:08.13 | KotCzarny | i have started adding some kind of mouse queue |
| 21:08.24 | KotCzarny | btw. mousehack works |
| 21:08.37 | KotCzarny | but the problem is that it first clicks. then moves |
| 21:08.55 | spirytusick | KotCzarny: Maybe solution from straciatella might be usefull ? |
| 21:09.01 | KotCzarny | hmm? |
| 21:09.15 | spirytusick | KotCzarny: btw, which bin is the best one ? uae4all-g or just uae4all ? |
| 21:09.17 | jott | hmm it does not seem to work here :/ |
| 21:09.25 | KotCzarny | -g is a version made for pupnik |
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| 21:09.38 | KotCzarny | get new uae4all.gz |
| 21:09.42 | spirytusick | ok |
| 21:09.44 | spirytusick | thanks |
| 21:09.51 | LinuxCode | wrks |
| 21:09.52 | LinuxCode | ;-] |
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| 21:11.19 | pupnik | this is a very exciting thing |
| 21:11.29 | spirytusick | pupnik: hello :) |
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| 21:11.46 | pupnik | hi! |
| 21:12.01 | LinuxCode | KotCzarny, omg..what did i miss ? |
| 21:12.02 | spirytusick | pupnik: uae :) Thanks :) |
| 21:12.04 | pupnik | i'm going to poke around with sound tonight |
| 21:12.12 | pupnik | KotCzarny did the work |
| 21:12.17 | KotCzarny | linuxcode: everything? |
| 21:12.18 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 21:12.33 | LinuxCode | uae..where when why what ? |
| 21:12.40 | spirytusick | pupnik: do you think we will be able to ditch esddsp ? |
| 21:12.43 | pupnik | there's not much between this and real solid |
| 21:13.01 | pupnik | uh i suppose |
| 21:13.13 | admin_ | anyone have a link to good list of OS2007 repos? |
| 21:13.23 | pupnik | http://pastebin.ca/934412 profile for uae4all in-game (animations, scrolling) |
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| 21:13.40 | spirytusick | admin_: see the topic :) |
| 21:13.45 | KotCzarny | brb |
| 21:14.05 | LinuxCode | so uae works now ? |
| 21:14.06 | admin_ | :D |
| 21:14.08 | pupnik | we may be better off running stereo mode, but i need a way to get more accurate fps data on the backend |
| 21:14.47 | spirytusick | LinuxCode: it works at nearly or exactly the full speeds with sound (with a little hickup for the time being) |
| 21:15.15 | jott | for me the mouse still does not work :~( |
| 21:15.24 | KotCzarny | yeah, mouse needs work |
| 21:15.29 | LinuxCode | whats the link ? |
| 21:15.47 | LinuxCode | I just rejoined and missed all the excitement |
| 21:15.51 | jott | KotCzarny: do you know how this mousehack_helper is supposed to work? |
| 21:15.52 | LinuxCode | ;-[ |
| 21:15.59 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 21:16.07 | KotCzarny | there are 3 versions of it in the code |
| 21:16.11 | jott | it does not seem to be called |
| 21:16.12 | KotCzarny | each has it's quirks |
| 21:16.34 | KotCzarny | i think 'follow mouse' is the closest |
| 21:16.40 | KotCzarny | but it needs events queue |
| 21:16.52 | KotCzarny | to put click at the end of sub movements |
| 21:17.06 | KotCzarny | ie. if moving 400px right |
| 21:17.11 | jott | it just gives quite arbitrary values :/ |
| 21:17.15 | KotCzarny | it moves it in 3 steps |
| 21:17.20 | KotCzarny | jott: sorry, no go |
| 21:17.36 | KotCzarny | unless you add hack from winuae |
| 21:17.39 | KotCzarny | to do that |
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| 21:18.13 | jott | winuae does handle absolute mouse movement? |
| 21:18.26 | KotCzarny | i have seen in stock uae/e-uae some kick.rom functions added |
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| 21:18.38 | KotCzarny | that will take arbitrary positions |
| 21:18.46 | KotCzarny | not only +/-127 max |
| 21:18.50 | jott | hmm.. |
| 21:19.05 | KotCzarny | i may be wrong, source is available :> |
| 21:19.14 | jott | yeah.. checking |
| 21:19.17 | KotCzarny | brb. |
| 21:24.05 | spirytusick | Guys: Good Job, Arte runs so much smoother right now!!! Thanks |
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| 21:26.05 | spirytusick | ok, will see you guys later, I am going to test some old adf images... |
| 21:26.39 | LinuxCode | "test" |
| 21:26.41 | LinuxCode | rofl |
| 21:26.44 | LinuxCode | more like game |
| 21:32.36 | LinuxCode | im off ..nn all |
| 21:32.52 | pupnik | cu LinuxCode |
| 21:32.57 | LinuxCode | ;-] |
| 21:36.10 | pupnik | KotCzarny: also in menu file browser there needs to be way to abort (esc) out of it |
| 21:36.27 | KotCzarny | yeah, i have also noticed that |
| 21:36.37 | KotCzarny | probably on full keyboard there's a key for that |
| 21:36.42 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 21:37.17 | pupnik | how about esc to exit and +/- to pgup/pgdown? |
| 21:37.25 | KotCzarny | nice idea |
| 21:37.32 | pupnik | or maybe left/right would be easier |
| 21:37.43 | pupnik | oh left/right already does that! |
| 21:37.44 | KotCzarny | yeah, links like browsing |
| 21:37.44 | pupnik | lol |
| 21:37.48 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 21:37.57 | pupnik | i was clicking down like 100 times |
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| 21:38.47 | KotCzarny | autorepeat would be nice too |
| 21:38.48 | KotCzarny | :) |
| 21:41.19 | KotCzarny | even easier is specifying adf on cmd line |
| 21:41.20 | KotCzarny | ;) |
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| 21:42.04 | Dazgard | hi there |
| 21:42.08 | Dazgard | im back :) |
| 21:43.20 | Dazgard | johnx: i did try to install the modules, but i got unresolved symols |
| 21:43.43 | Dazgard | here is the exact error |
| 21:43.43 | Dazgard | cannot insert 'iptable_nat.ko': Unknown symbol in module (-1): No such file or directory |
| 21:45.12 | pH5 | Dazgard: dmesg will show you which symbols are unresolved, maybe that will give a hint what is missing. |
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| 21:46.05 | pH5 | nf_nat and nf_conntrack modules maybe. |
| 21:46.06 | Dazgard | yep |
| 21:46.25 | pH5 | and ip_tables |
| 21:46.59 | Dazgard | ok, the error seems to be related to nf_conntrack_untracked |
| 21:47.08 | Dazgard | that's cool |
| 21:48.32 | jott | get depmod and use modprobe, that makes things easier ;) |
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| 21:53.11 | Dazgard | jott: i'll put every required command in a shel script :) |
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| 21:54.14 | admin_ | ugh, wtf is with this, I put 2006 back on there, if I try to install a package, it'll DL it, then say can't instal ~_~ |
| 21:55.46 | Dazgard | jott: or perhaps you're right :'( |
| 21:58.03 | Dazgard | how can i add file to /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.21-omap1/, teh directory is RO |
| 21:58.06 | Dazgard | the |
| 21:58.12 | KotCzarny | you can't |
| 21:58.22 | KotCzarny | but you can use /lib/modules/2.6.21-omap1/ |
| 21:58.26 | KotCzarny | and it will work |
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| 21:58.48 | KotCzarny | modprobe etc. |
| 21:58.59 | KotCzarny | ok. good night people |
| 22:00.05 | jott | Dazgard: http://sse2.net/depmod |
| 22:00.21 | admin_ | :( |
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| 22:01.40 | LoCusF | is it possible to mount a iso-image on n810? |
| 22:01.46 | KotCzarny | yes |
| 22:02.00 | KotCzarny | (but i'm off to bed now) |
| 22:02.01 | LoCusF | without extra modules? |
| 22:02.13 | KotCzarny | locusf: nope |
| 22:02.17 | LoCusF | ok |
| 22:02.23 | KotCzarny | iso9660 or fuse is required |
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| 22:05.15 | pupnik | wtf... getting lots of segfaults now.. but not every time, just 95% of the time |
| 22:05.37 | admin_ | apparently I needed to install xterm before all else |
| 22:06.07 | spirytusick | pupnik: same here |
| 22:06.20 | spirytusick | pupnik: check if the disk image you are trying to load is not packed with anything |
| 22:06.39 | spirytusick | pupnik: I was trying to use dms'ed images but they crash uae everytime |
| 22:06.54 | pupnik | these are images that worked fine an hour ago |
| 22:07.31 | spirytusick | pupnik: just so you know, ehb and ham modes are a little messed up colourwise and some trashing |
| 22:07.43 | pupnik | ok |
| 22:08.29 | spirytusick | pupnik: try game unreal and walker, i've took some screenshots if you want |
| 22:09.21 | spirytusick | pupnik: it might be uae4all bugs, not specific maemo error, I have got no gp2x to try... :( |
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| 22:10.58 | pupnik | [Switching to Thread 1073794048 (LWP 1461)] |
| 22:10.58 | pupnik | unrecognized_callback () at src/m68k/cyclone/m68k_intrf.cpp:231 |
| 22:10.59 | pupnik | 231 uae_u16 arg = *(uae_u16 *)(pc+2); |
| 22:11.33 | pupnik | the walls are going bendy |
| 22:12.44 | pupnik | ok it's something nasty about the kickstart |
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| 22:13.57 | pupnik | btw spirytusick you can page forward in the file browser with right-dpad |
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| 22:15.05 | spirytusick | pupnik: ql thanks, I will test some more games and demos tonight.. nostalgia can be fun :) |
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| 22:16.52 | Dazgard | thanks guys |
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| 22:17.08 | Dazgard | does someone have "/lib/iptables/libipt_MASQUERADE.so" please ? |
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| 23:12.36 | admin_ | hey again, I removed the whole osso-chat, as I never use it. now I'm left with a blank area where it used to be ( http://imagebin.org/14686 ) Any ideas how to fix that? |
| 23:12.53 | Proteous | white out? |
| 23:12.58 | admin_ | yeah |
| 23:12.58 | Proteous | maybe a sticker or something |
| 23:13.01 | admin_ | lol |
| 23:13.01 | Proteous | :P |
| 23:13.47 | admin_ | hmm, I was thinking there's a menu conf. file somewhere :) |
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| 23:31.25 | lcuk_3 | admin_ you have plenty of ram on your nokia :) |
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| 23:32.26 | lcuk_3 | have you tried rebooting |
| 23:34.16 | admin_ | yeah |
| 23:34.59 | admin_ | no luck lcuk_3 :( |
| 23:35.32 | lcuk_3 | can you rearrange the panels on the 770? on my 810 i can configure that area from control panel/panels if you have similar you could try going in and resaving it |
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| 23:38.46 | guerby-n810 | test |
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| 23:40.01 | lcuk_3 | according to the RFC on internet connectivity the international statement for checking should be "ping" |
| 23:40.58 | guerby | lcuk_3, pong :) |
| 23:41.32 | lcuk_3 | first time with xchat on 810? |
| 23:42.39 | guerby | lcuk_3, oh no I'm an old timer, this was with the latest pidgin |
| 23:43.02 | lcuk_3 | cool |
| 23:43.06 | guerby | lcuk_3, couldn't find an option to auto connect to multiple chans |
| 23:43.33 | guerby | Brains, yeah I use xchat :) |
| 23:43.42 | lcuk_3 | xchat works pretty much like you expect it to, apart from there isnt too much space to list chans or users |
| 23:44.29 | lcuk_3 | also, the grey on white for your own text really doesn't stand out on the 810 screen |
| 23:44.33 | magicrobotmonkey | im trying to disable the link navigation and its not working |
| 23:44.56 | lcuk_3 | magicrobotmonkey, you mentioned this earlier before i went out - ill try and find the deb i installed |
| 23:45.51 | magicrobotmonkey | heh i just read the comment at the top of prefs.js |
| 23:45.57 | derf | ssh+irssi is all you need. |
| 23:46.20 | magicrobotmonkey | yea thats what i use |
| 23:48.02 | magicrobotmonkey | lcuk_3: i got it now, just had to rtfm |
| 23:48.08 | magicrobotmonkey | thanks |
| 23:48.25 | magicrobotmonkey | now reader will be useable |
| 23:49.19 | lcuk_3 | and theres me just finding what i needed... |
| 23:49.39 | lcuk_3 | i best post it here anyway (the bug and a link to the .deb ) |
| 23:49.53 | lcuk_3 | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2423#c7 |
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