| 00:02.33 | leo2007 | what's the most common language to write app for Maemo? |
| 00:02.57 | proteous | python |
| 00:02.59 | proteous | probably |
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| 00:05.24 | leo2007 | what's the best life to extend battery life? |
| 00:05.36 | leo2007 | proteous: thanks. I like python |
| 00:06.19 | proteous | the afterlife is the best life I would assume |
| 00:06.24 | proteous | from what I hear |
| 00:07.43 | leo2007 | s/life/way/ |
| 00:07.49 | leo2007 | sorry typo |
| 00:08.19 | proteous | not leaving the wifi on helps |
| 00:10.31 | ryoohki_ | does anyone make a bigger bbattery for the nokia n800 or n810? i know it would have to come with a door/covering since it would be too large to fit but is there a such a product? |
| 00:11.11 | proteous | you could make a battery pack that plugged into the charger port :) |
| 00:11.46 | ryoohki_ | proteous: i know, i've seen these - thanks |
| 00:12.33 | proteous | :P |
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| 00:26.16 | |tbb| | nite all |
| 00:27.21 | proteous | nite |
| 00:32.04 | derf | Hmm, is the ruby maemo site down? |
| 00:37.12 | derf | Never mind, found the packages directly in garage. |
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| 00:55.05 | daveux | How do I figure out my IP? |
| 00:56.19 | proteous | open tool -> connection manage |
| 00:56.43 | proteous | open the menu select Internet connection -> IP address |
| 00:56.46 | lcuk_2 | if its your global internet ip you want, this place will make you laugh: http://www.moanmyip.com/ |
| 00:59.09 | derf | Or just type /sbin/ifconfig in an xterm. |
| 00:59.26 | proteous | :P |
| 00:59.47 | proteous | where did you get your name derf? |
| 01:00.56 | daveux | ok, so I installed openssh server |
| 01:01.02 | daveux | DO I need to restart for it to work? |
| 01:01.03 | derf | From the sky? I don't know. |
| 01:01.17 | proteous | heh |
| 01:01.30 | derf | I commonly tell people it's a nice square of four letters on the keybaord. |
| 01:01.46 | proteous | just that I have a friend who uses that nick on IRC |
| 01:01.57 | proteous | I thought it was pretty strange |
| 01:02.02 | derf | It turns out their a fair number of us. |
| 01:02.08 | proteous | but to see another derf is pretty odd |
| 01:02.08 | derf | s/their/there's |
| 01:02.12 | proteous | interesting |
| 01:02.19 | derf | Something about four-letter nicks. |
| 01:03.20 | proteous | heh |
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| 01:25.13 | Sterling | fixed my memory card with os2007he :) |
| 01:32.36 | proteous | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:39.19 | smackpotato | has anyone fixed samba in the file manager |
| 01:40.01 | smackpotato | it almost works |
| 01:40.51 | proteous | haven't used it |
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| 01:57.41 | tank-man | fixed what? |
| 01:57.49 | tank-man | what was wrong? |
| 02:04.00 | ryoohki_ | how is it that the internal flash card on the n810 cannot be replaced? |
| 02:04.23 | GeneralAntilles | Because it's soldered to the mainboard. . . . |
| 02:06.28 | proteous | lol |
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| 02:25.48 | Kggk | Anyone here with an n800? |
| 02:27.30 | proteous | I saw one online once |
| 02:27.37 | proteous | but I just have a 770 |
| 02:27.42 | GeneralAntilles | Ha |
| 02:27.45 | `0660_ | what's n800??? |
| 02:28.08 | proteous | taters? what's taters precious? |
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| 02:29.23 | Kggk | I need people with pretty quick tablets to test my web-app :) |
| 02:29.34 | proteous | are you saying my 770 is slow? |
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| 02:29.46 | proteous | don't listen to him poor 770, he doesn't mean it |
| 02:29.57 | Kggk | :P I have no clue, never touched a tablet before |
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| 02:31.39 | Kggk | proteous: do you think your tablet could handle a WebOS? |
| 02:31.48 | proteous | no idea |
| 02:31.54 | proteous | not if it's flash based :P |
| 02:32.30 | Kggk | I despise Flash |
| 02:32.39 | Kggk | its Javascript for the fancy-shmansy stuff |
| 02:32.44 | Kggk | PHP aswell |
| 02:32.54 | Kggk | Wanna give it a whirl for me? |
| 02:32.59 | Kggk | :) |
| 02:33.01 | proteous | sure |
| 02:33.23 | Kggk | Awesome, thanks. The URL is exiousos.com/exiousos |
| 02:33.43 | Kggk | Click "New User", it takes about 2 seconds to register (just pick a username and pass) |
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| 02:39.53 | proteous | the directorys seem to be case sensitive |
| 02:40.03 | proteous | so it would be exiousos.com/ExiousOS |
| 02:41.35 | proteous | you might want to put in something that will give a warning if javascript isn't enabled in the browser |
| 02:42.02 | proteous | at least on my 770, I didn't realized I had it turned off and was presented with a page with no content, just a background image |
| 02:43.23 | proteous | not sure how to log in |
| 02:43.28 | proteous | maybe it doesn't like my browser |
| 02:43.42 | proteous | er, not so much log in as create an account |
| 02:43.48 | GeneralAntilles | There's no way it'll work with Opera. |
| 02:43.58 | proteous | why's that |
| 02:44.10 | GeneralAntilles | Because Opera is old a sucky. |
| 02:44.16 | GeneralAntilles | s/a/and/ |
| 02:44.18 | proteous | so is javascript |
| 02:44.27 | proteous | lol |
| 02:44.33 | GeneralAntilles | <_< |
| 02:44.52 | proteous | although the HTMLresponce stuff is newer |
| 02:45.04 | proteous | and various other ajax stuff |
| 02:45.41 | elb | so, before I go digging into barcode libraries, does anyone know of a barcode-reading application for maemo? |
| 02:45.50 | proteous | er, httpresponse |
| 02:46.15 | GeneralAntilles | None that I've seen, elb. |
| 02:46.22 | GeneralAntilles | You might check ITT, though. |
| 02:46.34 | elb | I didn't find anything in my own search |
| 02:46.41 | elb | but ... maemo stuff doesn't seem to be real well organized ;-) |
| 02:47.39 | GeneralAntilles | I nominate elb for the job. |
| 02:47.47 | elb | hah yeah |
| 02:48.48 | elb | a barcode framework that can use the camera for input seems like a natural fit, to me |
| 02:49.06 | proteous | USB host mode + cue cat FTW |
| 02:49.20 | elb | if by 'ftw' you mean 'sucks' |
| 02:49.23 | elb | then I totally agree |
| 02:49.27 | proteous | hah |
| 02:49.30 | proteous | what sucks about that |
| 02:49.37 | elb | why haul around another external device, when you have an appropriate builtin input mechanism? |
| 02:49.51 | proteous | maybe |
| 02:50.01 | proteous | I've never used a camera based barcode reader |
| 02:50.39 | proteous | aiming the camera might be a little ackward |
| 02:50.46 | proteous | but maybe not |
| 02:50.54 | elb | on the 810 it might be |
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| 02:50.58 | elb | but it's still not a second device |
| 02:51.33 | proteous | you could duct tape the cuecat to your n800... |
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| 02:53.02 | elb | I had one of the original cuecats |
| 02:53.04 | elb | they kind of sucked |
| 02:53.10 | proteous | I've never used on |
| 02:53.13 | proteous | one |
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| 02:57.28 | proteous | too bad the cuecat mainboard is sorta bulky |
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| 03:04.54 | Kggk | proteous, there was a really cool OS X app that let you use your iSight as a barcode scanner |
| 03:05.04 | proteous | I remember reading about that |
| 03:05.29 | proteous | http://sourceforge.net/projects/barcr-reader/ |
| 03:05.34 | Kggk | Wish i had bought an iSight before they got discontinued |
| 03:05.40 | Kggk | it'd be worth one pretty penny :) |
| 03:05.46 | proteous | heh |
| 03:05.51 | proteous | they were nifty lookin |
| 03:05.59 | Kggk | Bleh, i thought they were ugly |
| 03:06.10 | proteous | :P |
| 03:06.33 | Kggk | Does anyone have a site they'd be interested in trading banner ads on? |
| 03:06.40 | Kggk | I know this is wayyyyyyyy OT |
| 03:06.43 | proteous | ... |
| 03:06.43 | Kggk | so, don't attack me :P |
| 03:07.06 | elb | I have two isights |
| 03:07.10 | elb | one is still in its box |
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| 03:07.23 | Kggk | :P lucky |
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| 03:12.27 | elb | eh, they're not really useful to me |
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| 03:14.13 | Kggk | Sell em? |
| 03:18.02 | jott | build a "number 5" look-a-like? |
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| 03:20.20 | smackpotato | here is a power solution |
| 03:20.33 | smackpotato | http://cgi.ebay.ca/Chinese-Military-Radio-Hand-Crank-Generator-Type-65_W0QQitemZ190194509781QQihZ009QQcategoryZ1502QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 03:21.11 | johnx | I liked the prototype OLPC's crank better... |
| 03:22.26 | smackpotato | why didnt they include it |
| 03:22.34 | elb | I'm not turning anything up for bar code reading |
| 03:22.36 | elb | that's unfortunate |
| 03:22.48 | elb | so many *practical* maemo applications are just waiting to be written |
| 03:22.51 | elb | I need more time! |
| 03:22.52 | elb | ;-) |
| 03:24.00 | smackpotato | the 2d bar codes can be grabed with a camera |
| 03:24.49 | elb | so can 3d |
| 03:24.58 | elb | ... just not on the nokia tablets (yet) |
| 03:25.26 | elb | err, no, 2d is what I meant |
| 03:25.32 | elb | I thought you meant linear |
| 03:25.48 | elb | linear and 2d barcodes can both be easily read by a camera of the resolution of the nokia tablet camera |
| 03:25.59 | elb | although the tablet camera's quality appears to be very poor, at least on my tablet |
| 03:26.03 | elb | there's a lot of noise on the image |
| 03:26.03 | lcuk_2 | barcodes would look snowy tho |
| 03:26.28 | smackpotato | ya iguess thefre more like squares than bars |
| 03:27.35 | lcuk_2 | also n810 camera isnt situated well for practical use |
| 03:28.09 | elb | eh, just hold it above the code for a second |
| 03:28.15 | smackpotato | you need to carry a mirror with u |
| 03:28.43 | lcuk_2 | that would help keep my hair in check, but what about the barcodes? |
| 03:28.45 | elb | I'd like something where I could, e.g., take it to the grocery and scan an item, and it would say "you last bought this for $2.99" or whatever |
| 03:29.01 | elb | obviously that price I would have to enter at some point |
| 03:29.10 | elb | but there ar ea lot of things I buy often, for which this would be practical |
| 03:30.18 | johnx | qr-codes (the 2D ones) are pretty neat...but not always helpful |
| 03:30.24 | lcuk_2 | the unknown price is even ok, i think there are barcode lookup sites online which give product description when you get home and line it up with the receipt |
| 03:30.46 | elb | 2d barcodes are pretty much useless for me |
| 03:30.47 | lcuk_2 | hang on, do receipts now display the product code on them? |
| 03:30.53 | elb | nothing I do day-to-day uses them |
| 03:31.02 | elb | lcuk_2: many do, but as a number, not a code |
| 03:31.21 | lcuk_2 | thats ok, whilst walking round scan items as you trolley them |
| 03:31.32 | elb | yeah |
| 03:31.33 | lcuk_2 | when you get home scan the receipt as well |
| 03:31.41 | elb | and OCR it |
| 03:31.43 | lcuk_2 | match up barcodes with prices and then next time it will know |
| 03:32.04 | elb | in my case, that'd be a lot more trouble than I needed |
| 03:32.06 | lcuk_2 | it would be a nice feedback loop |
| 03:32.09 | elb | I'd be most interested in staples |
| 03:32.32 | lcuk_2 | then scip the ocr at the end and just allow prices and descriptions to be entered per the scanned code |
| 03:32.37 | elb | which, for me, means eggs, bread, ice cream, sausage, and bacon ;-) |
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| 03:33.30 | lcuk_2 | that would be quite useful and interesting to monitor |
| 03:34.25 | lcuk_2 | it might be better (and esier) to get a cuecat or use a different camera, 8x0 isnt really geared to the kind of swiping you would need |
| 03:34.36 | elb | but that's another device |
| 03:34.57 | lcuk_2 | 810 for instance, i wouldnt swipe heavy groceries near it for fear of damaging the screen |
| 03:34.58 | elb | the 810 camera is definitely suboptimal for this task, but should be *sufficient* |
| 03:35.16 | elb | oh, I'd swipe it over the groceries, not vice-versa |
| 03:35.21 | elb | as you said, as I pick them up |
| 03:35.29 | lcuk_2 | i have a phone with a better camera in it already and its bluetooth |
| 03:35.46 | lcuk_2 | i could sit the 810 on the little shopping list clip thing on the trolley |
| 03:35.47 | elb | still, though, you're waving around two devices |
| 03:35.57 | elb | bar codes can be read on *really* crappy cameras |
| 03:36.06 | elb | although the processing to make that happen might be beyond the FOSS libraries |
| 03:37.14 | lcuk_2 | nahhh you aare underestimating the people around you |
| 03:37.27 | elb | oh, I'm not saying it can't be written |
| 03:37.31 | elb | but someone has to care enough to do so |
| 03:37.41 | elb | and my brief survey of the field suggests it ain't likely |
| 03:37.57 | elb | there's a pretty powerful 2d barcode library, but for linear barcodes there doesn't seem to be much |
| 03:39.13 | jott | doesn't gocr support barcode recognition? |
| 03:39.43 | lcuk_2 | http://zebra.sourceforge.net/ |
| 03:39.51 | lcuk_2 | Zebra is a small, layered EAN/UPC and Code 128 bar code scanning and decoding library implemented in C (C++ wrappers are also provided) |
| 03:39.56 | elb | yeah, but read the comments |
| 03:40.02 | elb | it says it probably doesn't work well for noisy images |
| 03:40.10 | elb | (re: Zebra) |
| 03:40.32 | elb | I only did a cursory exploration, but I ran across zebra and libdmtx as the most likely candidates |
| 03:40.48 | jott | it would be interesting if we could increase the integration time of the ccd sensor :) |
| 03:41.45 | jott | but i doubt the omap would allow us to control this kernel wise :/ |
| 03:42.19 | elb | it's probably hardware defined |
| 03:42.30 | elb | or non-replaceable firmware defined, as the case typically is |
| 03:42.38 | lcuk_2 | wouldnt that oversaturate the images |
| 03:42.41 | elb | since nothing is in hardware any more ;-) |
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| 03:49.41 | jott | elb: have you actually tried the zebra implementation with some n8x0 images? |
| 03:51.42 | elb | jott: I haven't |
| 03:52.07 | elb | trying it and dmtx are now on my TODO |
| 03:52.12 | elb | but ... it's a long list ;-) |
| 03:52.29 | jott | hehe sure ;) |
| 03:52.32 | elb | my 810 takes *really*, *really* noisy images, with poor color contrast and registration |
| 03:52.35 | elb | so I'm suspicious |
| 03:52.44 | elb | looks like dmtx would be able to handle it, based on his documentation |
| 03:52.57 | elb | but since 2d barcodes are used basically nowhere useful ... ;-) |
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| 03:57.10 | lcuk_2 | damn wrong icon ... :| |
| 03:57.11 | johnx | elb, they're all over the place here |
| 03:57.27 | johnx | they mostly have URLs encoded in them |
| 03:57.35 | elb | where is "here"? |
| 03:57.43 | elb | I never see them, to speak of, in the midwestern US |
| 03:57.55 | elb | just on packages and mail, basically, and some electronic devices on the FCC/etc. tag |
| 03:58.09 | johnx | Japan :D |
| 03:58.23 | elb | ahh, yeah |
| 03:58.37 | elb | they do the phone click thing, right? |
| 03:58.52 | elb | where you "click" their URL by snapping a shot of the barcode on your mobile phone? |
| 03:58.56 | johnx | even phones that come "free" with a contract have a cam that can read qr-codes |
| 03:58.58 | johnx | yeah |
| 03:59.07 | elb | yeah |
| 03:59.14 | elb | I think I bought the last Japanese phone that didn't have a camera ;-) |
| 03:59.22 | elb | in 2001 |
| 03:59.34 | elb | ;-) |
| 03:59.38 | johnx | last years lineup included AGPS |
| 04:00.55 | elb | gps was available in 2001 |
| 04:01.10 | elb | or does agps mean something other than network-assisted gps? |
| 04:01.14 | elb | in modern terms |
| 04:01.33 | johnx | that's what it is |
| 04:01.38 | johnx | but now it's in *every* phone |
| 04:02.01 | johnx | the time to get a fix is ~15-30 seconds at worst |
| 04:02.40 | elb | yeah, nice |
| 04:04.20 | johnx | I thought slashdot or someplace had them up for a while |
| 04:05.46 | elb | oh, I can easily find an image of one |
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| 04:05.54 | elb | I'm looking for one to take with the 810 camera |
| 04:06.36 | johnx | an image should work fine ... |
| 04:09.50 | elb | if I printed it, I guess |
| 04:10.07 | elb | taking a picture of a lit display is very different from taking a picture of a white reflective surface ;-) |
| 04:10.07 | johnx | it should work fine on the screen |
| 04:10.13 | johnx | my cell phone has no problem with it... |
| 04:10.24 | elb | no, it's probably *easier* |
| 04:11.23 | elb | the n810 seems to be generally light-starved |
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| 04:12.13 | jott | elb: print it ;) |
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| 04:13.00 | elb | bah |
| 04:13.03 | elb | I should be able to find one ;-) |
| 04:13.17 | elb | I just found a fedex package, but it's the wrong style of 2d barcode |
| 04:15.33 | elb | haHA, USPS to the rescue! |
| 04:16.33 | johnx | anyways, need to head out |
| 04:20.26 | elb | yeah, no love wit hthe postage code |
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| 04:53.59 | elb | hah zebra actually did a fair job when I thresholded the image to B&W |
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| 05:43.58 | EruditeHermit | hey, is there a way to queue songs in canola? |
| 05:44.09 | EruditeHermit | or to create your own playlist |
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| 06:22.20 | Luria | http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/other/display/samsung-sm940ux.html |
| 06:22.25 | Luria | anyone seen this? |
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| 06:41.57 | K-Fox | where is libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1) 's offline files? |
| 06:42.26 | K-Fox | i am trying to install a openssh on n800 |
| 06:48.22 | pupnik_ | interesting device Luria |
| 06:50.28 | zoran | K-Fox, you should already have that lib installed |
| 06:51.11 | Luria | esp for the nokia |
| 06:52.07 | pupnik_ | anybody want to fix up pixel doubling on another new game? |
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| 07:20.00 | Zic | I've got an updates in OS2008 of maps, but I can't upgrade it |
| 07:20.46 | pupnik_ | does it give a warning about being untrusted or something? |
| 07:21.42 | dragorn | I've got an update for map which triggers a repo mismatch and won't apply |
| 07:21.45 | K-Fox | insmod /mnt/initfs/lib/modules/2.6.21-omap1/g_ether.ko |
| 07:21.51 | dragorn | I ended up ignoring it. |
| 07:22.40 | K-Fox | this command did excute on xterm , an erroe message is "-sh: ./insmod: not found |
| 07:22.45 | K-Fox | why? |
| 07:22.58 | dragorn | because insmod probably isn't in your current directory |
| 07:23.05 | K-Fox | huh |
| 07:23.12 | dragorn | so you shouldn't be telling it './insmod' |
| 07:23.23 | K-Fox | i did upgrade os2008 on n800 |
| 07:23.51 | K-Fox | not existing by default? |
| 07:25.05 | K-Fox | it is difficult to connect the " Setting up USB Networking |
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| 07:38.49 | pupnik_ | http://pupnik.de/tyrian21_maemo.tgz |
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| 07:39.01 | pupnik_ | A fun shoot-em-up |
| 07:39.16 | pupnik_ | very elegantly written too (lots of sprites) |
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| 08:12.03 | K-Fox | what is root password by default (os 2008) |
| 08:13.18 | Luria | non |
| 08:13.22 | Luria | none, passwd -l |
| 08:14.26 | K-Fox | it's passwd? |
| 08:14.51 | Luria | no, there is no password |
| 08:15.11 | Luria | passwd -l disables password login to an account |
| 08:19.27 | K-Fox | Enable RDmode if you want to break your device <--- this message is " root permission "? |
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| 08:20.51 | K-Fox | wow it's difficult |
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| 09:00.17 | pupnik_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:04.37 | proteous | what's tyrian |
| 09:04.55 | proteous | nm |
| 09:04.58 | proteous | thanks google |
| 09:05.35 | proteous | acording to the box cover, tyrian is: "INTENSE SERIOUS FUN!" |
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| 09:08.12 | pupnik_ | http://pupnik.de/tyrianN810.jpg |
| 09:08.22 | pupnik_ | http://pupnik.de/Tyrian_on_N810_demo.avi |
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| 09:10.44 | K-Fox | wow |
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| 09:36.39 | pupnik_ | it does a memcpy to screen update |
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| 09:43.21 | n0ob_ | nice work pupnik_ |
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| 10:11.12 | pupnik_ | damn this might be the fastest SDL game i've compiled for this thing |
| 10:11.37 | pupnik_ | it's hardly slower using software scaling at 640x400 |
| 10:13.34 | proteous | heh |
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| 10:16.00 | GreySim | Anyone know if there's a package for the console program 'remind' floating around anywhere? I've tried searching for it, but 'remind' doesn't make for a great search term. :( |
| 10:16.06 | GreySim | (770 - OS 2007 HE) |
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| 10:16.59 | pupnik_ | did you check gronmayer? |
| 10:17.24 | GreySim | Oh, no. Thanks. :) |
| 10:18.06 | GreySim | That actually completely reminds me; I disabled all my repos to install Canola earlier. So I might've already even had the right repo. >.< |
| 10:18.41 | GreySim | Although it appears not to be there. :( |
| 10:19.13 | Veggen | I wish we could have maemo extras as the *one* repo that people put their stuff in |
| 10:19.26 | Veggen | (or another one, but only *one*) |
| 10:19.44 | GreySim | Very weird. I found a PDF that looked like an assignment to build a Maemo frontend to remind, supposedly without depending on the remind package, so there must be one *somewhere*. |
| 10:20.12 | Veggen | well. command-line stuff should be very easy to port. |
| 10:20.41 | konttori | Hey: anybody using mouse on maemo? |
| 10:20.44 | GreySim | Yeah, but my two attempts at setting up a scratchbox have both failed spectacularly. |
| 10:24.17 | konttori | If anyone is interested in getting mice to work on maemo, lemme know. |
| 10:25.14 | pupnik_ | hi konttori i love nuvo-black theme |
| 10:25.24 | pupnik_ | did you see my comments on the problems i had with it |
| 10:26.08 | melmoth | GreySim: http://www.roaringpenguin.com/products/remind |
| 10:26.08 | konttori | umm... nope |
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| 10:26.31 | konttori | I didn' know it worked on os 2008 |
| 10:26.33 | K-Fox | pupinik: this message is out " -sh: insmod: not found " |
| 10:26.46 | K-Fox | on n800 |
| 10:26.51 | konttori | I have a version that works pretty well though. |
| 10:27.44 | GreySim | melmoth: Thanks, but I lack the ability to get that working on Maemo (I think; I'll take a quick look, but since I know using gcc is involved, I'm fairly sure it's beyond me at the moment). |
| 10:28.43 | K-Fox | where is the insmod package? |
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| 10:29.15 | konttori | punik_: Lemme know of the issues you had |
| 10:31.11 | inz | k-fox, insmod should be part of busybox |
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| 10:40.10 | pupnik_ | konttori: remnant of older theme: bright bar between started application icons |
| 10:40.27 | pupnik_ | remnant of older theme, bright bar under status bar |
| 10:40.31 | pupnik_ | i make pictures tonight |
| 10:40.59 | pupnik_ | most beautiful theme ever though :) imo |
| 10:41.08 | GreySim | Ah, the package of remind I saw reference to was one that was created as part of an exercise in some class of some kind. *sigh* |
| 10:41.26 | GreySim | http://www.mit.jyu.fi/mweber/teaching/TIES425/exercises/ (In case anyone is curious.) |
| 10:41.35 | pupnik_ | http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2006/nuvoblack more comments konttori |
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| 10:53.57 | solmumaha | pupnik_: ever tried that jagged alliance 2? i think it would be a killer game for the tablet |
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| 10:56.57 | pupnik_ | yeah i bought JA2 used just recently |
| 10:57.05 | pupnik_ | no didn't try it yet |
| 11:04.57 | solmumaha | i have the original for linux too |
| 11:05.15 | solmumaha | never really played it, but finished first and it's expansions |
| 11:05.29 | Blafasel | Morning |
| 11:06.01 | Zic | GPE PIM is not on repository of OS2008 |
| 11:06.17 | Zic | an idea when it comes ? |
| 11:07.38 | Blafasel | Wow. Canola2 Beta 2 looks even better.. |
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| 11:24.07 | pupnik_ | anybody wanna help fix pixel-doubled tyrian? :) |
| 11:24.39 | pupnik_ | real close now! :D |
| 11:29.57 | pH5 | pupnik_: where are the dosbox sources? the dosbox garage.maemo.org project is empty. |
| 11:31.50 | pH5 | lardman|away: I don't understand the asm code, but now I have something that creates and deletes a stream with SIO_create/SIO_delete. |
| 11:31.51 | K-Fox | dpkg -i openssh_4.6pl-5.maemo3_all.deb <--- this message is out " dpkg: requested operation required supersuer privilege " |
| 11:31.55 | pH5 | now comes the complicated part, synchronization and data transfer |
| 11:31.55 | K-Fox | why? |
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| 11:33.23 | K-Fox | i did works ready it " sudo gainroot " |
| 11:36.11 | pupnik_ | pH5: http://pupnik.de/dosbox_cvs_08_01_27.tgz |
| 11:36.47 | pH5 | K-Fox: does 'whoami' say you are root? |
| 11:37.09 | pH5 | pupnik_: thanks. |
| 11:37.13 | pH5 | pupnik_: why don't you take over the garage project? |
| 11:37.30 | pupnik_ | because it's for collaborative work, imo |
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| 11:37.54 | bedboi | hi all |
| 11:38.07 | bedboi | anyone is aware of a good upnp client for linux? |
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| 11:41.42 | LoCusF | has anyone else got any problems with the browser not starting up? |
| 11:42.03 | proteous | on what device? |
| 11:44.16 | LoCusF | n810 |
| 11:44.26 | LoCusF | with latest OS2008 |
| 11:44.30 | proteous | ah, sorry, only have a 770 |
| 11:44.57 | LoCusF | oh ok |
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| 11:47.12 | pH5 | pupnik_: ok, so you're the only one hacking on dosbox until now? |
| 11:47.35 | pupnik_ | i think so, not sure |
| 11:48.23 | LoCusF | ok reboot helped out |
| 11:48.37 | pupnik_ | we could use a faster final blit, improvements in the sound speed |
| 11:49.03 | K-Fox | i have n800, after upgrading os2008 and trying to set usb networking |
| 11:49.05 | pupnik_ | also they have a framework that allows for easy dynamic recompilation, so a dynamic recompiler for X86 to ARM is possible |
| 11:49.11 | K-Fox | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/usbnetworkingwinxp <---- this is right? |
| 11:49.34 | K-Fox | it's so difficult |
| 11:55.34 | K-Fox | please tell me how to set usb networking n800<---> winxp |
| 11:55.47 | K-Fox | my os is maemo 2008 |
| 11:57.07 | K-Fox | searching for 5 an hour |
| 11:57.16 | johnx | how far did you get on the guide you just linked? |
| 11:57.39 | K-Fox | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/4-x/setting_up_usb_networking.html#settingup |
| 11:57.44 | K-Fox | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/usbnetworkingwinxp <---- this is right? |
| 11:58.11 | K-Fox | through google,maemo forum |
| 11:58.17 | b0unc3 | good morning |
| 11:58.30 | johnx | mornin' b0unc3 |
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| 11:59.06 | johnx | K-Fox, the windows xp guide is for OS2006 and the guide for maemo 4 (aka ITOS2008) is for if your desktop computer runs Linux |
| 12:01.54 | K-Fox | is it possible to connect usbnetworking (n800 <---> winxp)? |
| 12:02.02 | johnx | yes, I think so |
| 12:02.09 | K-Fox | how? |
| 12:02.26 | K-Fox | please tell me some link |
| 12:02.28 | johnx | I don't really know...I don't even own a machine running windows |
| 12:03.03 | K-Fox | huh |
| 12:03.34 | K-Fox | are you running the linux desktop? |
| 12:04.14 | johnx | yes |
| 12:04.49 | johnx | K-Fox, What part are you stuck on? |
| 12:06.11 | hahlo | johnx: your debian works if used in chroot but haven't managed to boot it yet, boot mmc always fails, can i keep it bootloader problem cause chroot /media/mmc /bin/sh works? |
| 12:06.48 | johnx | hahlo, can you boot OS2008 from mmc card? |
| 12:06.51 | K-Fox | web browser on n800 |
| 12:07.00 | K-Fox | etc... |
| 12:08.03 | hahlo | johnx: i think so that once i did that |
| 12:08.03 | K-Fox | portble IT based linux |
| 12:08.03 | johnx | K-Fox, I don't understand. What *step* are you having a problem with? |
| 12:10.12 | K-Fox | i need a correct link " n800 <---> winxp ,setting up usp networking " |
| 12:10.30 | johnx | K-Fox, the links you already posted are the only ones I know of |
| 12:10.54 | K-Fox | aha |
| 12:10.59 | K-Fox | ok |
| 12:11.21 | K-Fox | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/usbnetworkingwinxp <--- this? |
| 12:11.42 | johnx | K-Fox, maybe searching for "usb networking" on internettablettalk.com/forums will help |
| 12:11.46 | hahlo | johnx: is there any howto how exactly do with boot loader and partitions with os2008? |
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| 12:12.02 | K-Fox | ok |
| 12:12.13 | johnx | hahlo, the guide for OS2007 mostly applies |
| 12:12.31 | hahlo | this is not quite correct i notice http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_Boot_From_MMC_card |
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| 12:12.44 | K-Fox | i am from asian |
| 12:13.50 | johnx | hahlo, also, even if it doesn't drop you into a GUI it should bring up usb networking. so if you can plug it into a Linux desktop you should be able to at least ssh in |
| 12:14.34 | hahlo | ok i try that |
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| 12:16.44 | michele | hello |
| 12:16.53 | michele | how do I connect to an unannounced AP? |
| 12:18.28 | michele | I manually added the network and essid, checked "network is hidden", but it doesn't show up anywhere |
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| 12:20.48 | pupnik_ | pH5: is there anything you want to add to this TODO list for dosbox? anything that's interesting to you? http://pupnik.de/dosbox_todo.txt |
| 12:22.48 | michele | brb |
| 12:24.57 | pH5 | pupnik_: not yet ;) |
| 12:25.03 | pH5 | this sounds already like a lot of work |
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| 12:29.11 | darkip | ok... |
| 12:30.17 | lcuk_2 | well all myt jedi training this week paid off. now hopefully i can put my talents to use with linux, but seems a bit more indepth than building a light sabre |
| 12:30.33 | lcuk_2 | (was a facy dress party and it was gr8) |
| 12:30.47 | proteous | ENable... |
| 12:30.50 | michele | sigh.. anybody using networks with hidden ssid? |
| 12:31.16 | proteous | no, I just name my network SSID INFLUENZA |
| 12:31.20 | proteous | that keeps the rabble out |
| 12:31.56 | lcuk_2 | set your SSID to NBC_DATELINE and noone will use it |
| 12:32.00 | proteous | lol |
| 12:32.11 | darkip | argh, rapidshare is SO annoying |
| 12:32.23 | lcuk_2 | not with multiple proxies its not |
| 12:32.29 | michele | ehm.. I'm sorry I don't get the joke.. |
| 12:32.39 | darkip | hmm, but that's missions to set up... |
| 12:33.05 | lcuk_2 | michele, dateline is an american program where they lure online stalkers to be arrested |
| 12:33.21 | GeneralAntilles | Haha |
| 12:33.23 | michele | oh.. |
| 12:33.37 | proteous | I moved a SATA drive from one computer to another to transfer some files and the computer ran checkdisk on it at boot and made the drive corupted, then I rebooted and windows ran checkdisk on the drive again and corrected the messup it made but my windows OS directory is gone.... |
| 12:33.40 | GeneralAntilles | Talk about journalism at its worst. . .. |
| 12:33.51 | darkip | ouch |
| 12:34.12 | proteous | windows removed itself it seems |
| 12:34.21 | proteous | as long as I have my files it's not too bad |
| 12:34.30 | proteous | windows can be reinstalled |
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| 12:34.35 | johnx | your copy of windows auto-darwinated? |
| 12:34.36 | proteous | very strange though |
| 12:34.41 | proteous | hehe, yeah |
| 12:34.48 | darkip | darwinateed? |
| 12:34.54 | johnx | maybe it saw the competition from your tablet... |
| 12:34.59 | lcuk_2 | windows DID fix itself though, it removed the infection. any chance it left a ubuntu folder in its place |
| 12:35.08 | proteous | lol, if only |
| 12:35.14 | johnx | darwin, created of the theory of natural selection, that the most fit creatures survive... |
| 12:35.34 | lcuk_2 | if that was the case we would still be using Amigas |
| 12:35.45 | proteous | and BeOS |
| 12:35.47 | proteous | :P |
| 12:36.03 | proteous | I guess it depends on how you define "fit" |
| 12:36.05 | johnx | lcuk_2, I like my protected memory, thanks very much :P |
| 12:36.12 | johnx | fit = NextStep :) |
| 12:36.26 | lcuk_2 | i like poking random bytes |
| 12:36.26 | proteous | if "fit" takes into account the amount of money the creating company has then windows is pretty fit |
| 12:36.53 | GeneralAntilles | Haha . . . I was picturing Windows turning itself into Darwin. <_< |
| 12:37.00 | proteous | heh |
| 12:37.11 | johnx | well, they'll have $50bn less if their purchase of Yahoo goes through... |
| 12:37.28 | proteous | doubtfull |
| 12:37.56 | proteous | if it does happen though, I wonder how many yahoo people will quit |
| 12:38.04 | proteous | damn you peer!!! |
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| 12:38.27 | GeneralAntilles | Peer is such an ass. |
| 12:38.37 | proteous | peer doth givith, and peer doth taketh away |
| 12:39.14 | proteous | there was a nice article in the onion a long time ago about the arrest of the notorious IRC hacker peer |
| 12:39.22 | proteous | named peer that is |
| 12:39.36 | proteous | can't seem to find it though |
| 12:39.50 | solmumaha | pupnik_: you there? |
| 12:40.24 | GeneralAntilles | The Onion expires their old editions after a while, don't they? |
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| 12:40.48 | proteous | maybe it wasn't the onion |
| 12:41.08 | proteous | hmm |
| 12:41.26 | proteous | how do I paste into putty without a mouse |
| 12:41.32 | GeneralAntilles | Sounds a little esoteric for their normal fair. |
| 12:42.37 | proteous | peerke.net/peerarrest/IRCNews_com%20Issue%203.htm |
| 12:42.53 | proteous | had to type that out :P |
| 12:43.33 | GeneralAntilles | Then I obviously have to click it. :P |
| 12:43.47 | proteous | :P |
| 12:44.46 | LoCusF | proteous: shift+insert |
| 12:44.59 | proteous | http://peerke.net/peerarrest/IRCNews_com%20-%20Issue%203.htm |
| 12:45.05 | proteous | hehe, thanks :) |
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| 12:47.24 | LoCusF | np :) |
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| 12:48.46 | pupnik_ | wow, Jade Raymond (game producer) is very competent http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aaMPXDXrK4 |
| 12:49.33 | lcuk_2 | competent = hot |
| 12:54.49 | proteous | lol |
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| 12:58.23 | solmumaha | pupnik_: http://nakkiboso.com/ja2.png |
| 12:59.53 | johnx | looks nice |
| 13:00.15 | solmumaha | seems to run perfectly |
| 13:00.18 | pH5 | solmumaha: is that straciatella? |
| 13:00.23 | solmumaha | and speed is great too |
| 13:00.26 | solmumaha | yes |
| 13:01.36 | pH5 | solmumaha: very nice :) how are the loading times? |
| 13:01.51 | solmumaha | feels just like on desktop |
| 13:01.55 | solmumaha | very fast |
| 13:01.57 | solmumaha | imo |
| 13:02.04 | Alendit | hi all |
| 13:02.19 | pupnik_ | how much data space is required solmumaha ? |
| 13:02.30 | solmumaha | quite a lot :) |
| 13:02.35 | solmumaha | let's see |
| 13:03.09 | pupnik_ | i hope straciatella also has a gamma function |
| 13:03.33 | solmumaha | 881 mb at the moment, but i left out few files from the game disk |
| 13:03.39 | solmumaha | so around 1 gb i belive |
| 13:03.51 | solmumaha | it's not that dark, it started to dim the screen at that point |
| 13:03.58 | Alendit | pH5, hi, are you THE pH5 of xda-developers? |
| 13:05.14 | pH5 | Alendit: yes |
| 13:05.44 | proteous | I <3 tab completion |
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| 13:09.51 | ustunozgur | how does one copy paste in xchat? i'm using the skyhusker chinook build |
| 13:10.16 | ustunozgur | right click deselects tthe text |
| 13:11.35 | Zetx | Have you tried pasting something? In the win32 build once you highlight something it automatically goes to the clipboard :\ |
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| 13:12.24 | ustunozgur | ah nice :) |
| 13:12.36 | sp3000 | (not) >:( |
| 13:13.46 | proteous | ... |
| 13:14.34 | sp3000 | or, more interestingly, using a rather unprecedented gesture to clobber clipboard |
| 13:14.51 | proteous | heh |
| 13:15.12 | proteous | irssi > xchat |
| 13:15.15 | johnx | sp3000, so you xchat or something else? |
| 13:15.50 | sp3000 | on the tablet? I mostly ssh+screen to an irssi elsewhere |
| 13:16.09 | proteous | so I'm not the only one who is l337 |
| 13:16.45 | sp3000 | though I xchat+ssh to irssiproxy if I happen to want to irc more on the tablet |
| 13:17.32 | proteous | irssi + bitlbee.org |
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| 13:18.08 | keesj | so what is the :latesed: Hacker edition release for the 770? |
| 13:18.18 | proteous | 2007 |
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| 13:18.37 | LoCusF | michele: any news on evince? |
| 13:19.26 | lardman | Debian or Ubuntu, what's the best bet? I've lost patience with Mandrake/iva |
| 13:19.38 | sp3000 | "yes" |
| 13:20.00 | proteous | I like debian, although I haven't tried Ubuntu |
| 13:20.03 | K-Fox | evince is fast to read a data? |
| 13:20.08 | michele | LoCusF: what kind of news? There are a couple bugs left, but it's good |
| 13:20.32 | michele | lardman: if you are coming from mandrake, go for ubuntu |
| 13:20.40 | LoCusF | michele: about the text selection |
| 13:20.41 | LoCusF | ? |
| 13:20.41 | K-Fox | than PDF reader? |
| 13:20.56 | michele | LoCusF: oh, no, nothing sorry |
| 13:21.02 | LoCusF | ok |
| 13:21.05 | lardman | michele, proteous: both similarly up-to-date? |
| 13:21.25 | K-Fox | evince is fast to read a data than PDF reader ? |
| 13:21.26 | michele | K-Fox: yes, I think it is a bit faster, but uses more memory |
| 13:21.38 | proteous | I only use debian for non gui stuff |
| 13:21.42 | K-Fox | it's good |
| 13:21.50 | Alendit | hmm, anyone know if i can get squashfs for maemo somewhere? or should i compile it by myself? |
| 13:21.51 | proteous | I hear Ubuntu has a nice gui |
| 13:21.52 | lardman | proteous: ah, ok |
| 13:22.01 | michele | lardman: debian sid (the development version) is more up to date than ubuntu release |
| 13:22.10 | lardman | nice GUI would be nice on occasion |
| 13:22.29 | sp3000 | michele: not for all packages though |
| 13:22.33 | johnx | debian sid is also more broken than ubuntu most of the time... |
| 13:22.46 | lardman | ok, that's the more important point |
| 13:22.48 | michele | true |
| 13:22.52 | sp3000 | since ubuntu syncs with gnome rels and debian kinda follows whenever |
| 13:22.54 | johnx | debian for servers and older machines, ubuntu for newer desktops |
| 13:23.10 | michele | ubuntu server is fine for servers too |
| 13:23.20 | proteous | apt-get 4ever |
| 13:23.25 | michele | aptitude |
| 13:23.36 | johnx | I prefer Debian's default software choices for servers... |
| 13:23.41 | LoCusF | open/free/netbsd \o/ |
| 13:23.47 | proteous | lol |
| 13:24.06 | proteous | \o\ |o| /o/ |
| 13:24.11 | proteous | \o/ |
| 13:24.12 | johnx | Frankly in terms of security/stability I tend to just *trust* the debian guys more than the ubuntu guys...They have the history after all |
| 13:24.13 | LoCusF | has someone installed a netbsd on n800? |
| 13:24.30 | johnx | I don't know |
| 13:24.35 | johnx | people run openbsd on the zaurus |
| 13:24.38 | proteous | I didn't, I know that |
| 13:24.48 | lardman | ok, next question, what's the best bet for migrating? It appear that my home partition also contains other directories (probably because it's on a huge disk) |
| 13:25.28 | proteous | rm -rf / |
| 13:25.47 | johnx | I always mv my home directory out of the way and then copy over what I want. I usually leave all my dotfiles behind and consider it a chance to start over... |
| 13:25.48 | ustunozgur | johnx, but probably debian testing is as stable as ubuntu. I suggest ubunutu however if you are not experienced. |
| 13:26.00 | Alendit | squashfs? any ideas on that? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokopedia needs it, and it would be freaking cool to have it on my nokia |
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| 13:26.27 | lardman | johnx: ok, I'll see how large a tar file I can create :) |
| 13:26.43 | michele | so, no hints for my hidden ssid problem? |
| 13:27.06 | michele | anybody connecting to hidden networks? |
| 13:27.31 | sp3000 | I have |
| 13:27.52 | michele | great, it seems I can't |
| 13:27.57 | sp3000 | to one |
| 13:28.07 | johnx | lardman, hmm? just leave everything on /home alone, except mv your /home/lardman to /home/lardman.bak before installing ubuntu/debian |
| 13:28.10 | michele | I created the connection, set it as hidden, but it doesn't show up |
| 13:28.36 | sp3000 | can you make it temporarily (or permanently) not hidden, to check if that's the problem? |
| 13:28.57 | michele | yes, it's working from my laptop |
| 13:29.04 | lardman | johnx: parts of /usr are also on that partition |
| 13:29.09 | michele | and it was not hidden until half an hour ago |
| 13:29.20 | johnx | lardman, ah you symlinke them in? |
| 13:29.35 | michele | it's a fon AP |
| 13:29.42 | johnx | debian/ubuntu will just ignore anything that shows up on /home |
| 13:29.47 | sp3000 | did you delete the stored connection? maybe it's confused by it having not been hidden |
| 13:29.49 | lardman | johnx: no, it's a very large disk, so I allowed (foolishly) other parts of the system to reside on the same partition |
| 13:29.52 | sp3000 | you could just do something random like change the channel |
| 13:30.03 | michele | let's see |
| 13:30.11 | michele | I love random troubleshooting... |
| 13:30.22 | johnx | lardman, is that some wacky mandriva feature? |
| 13:30.28 | sp3000 | I think I had an issue where somethnig wouldn't find an ap on one end of its available channels, though I think it was my laptop and not the tablet |
| 13:31.00 | lardman | johnx: not sure how I did it to be honest |
| 13:31.06 | johnx | O_o |
| 13:31.28 | johnx | either way: debian/ubuntu (debuntu?) isn't going to care |
| 13:31.47 | lardman | except there's lots of rubbish on there which I don't want |
| 13:32.04 | johnx | right so scrap everything there except /home/lardman |
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| 13:32.24 | lardman | ah, I know what I must have done, placed home on the root partition (as last time I ran out of scratchbox space) |
| 13:32.35 | johnx | aaaah |
| 13:32.35 | lardman | johnx: but how? |
| 13:32.48 | johnx | so it's all one partition? |
| 13:33.06 | lardman | there is a separate one for /usr from the looks of things |
| 13:33.16 | lardman | he wonders of installer wizards ;) |
| 13:33.29 | johnx | ok, just pastebin the output of mount :P |
| 13:33.57 | lardman | am in WinXP as I'm GUI-less in Linux |
| 13:34.06 | johnx | aaah |
| 13:34.29 | alterego | Meh, who needs a UI in Linux .. |
| 13:34.34 | lardman | All kicked off by random freezes -> update Nvidia driver, wrong GCC/kernel version, update kernel, xen so Nvidia won't work |
| 13:34.44 | lardman | alterego: true |
| 13:34.58 | alterego | Heh |
| 13:35.07 | lardman | alterego: but I've had enough of Mandrake anyway, was just nursing it along as I couldn't be bothered to change when it was (just about) wortking |
| 13:35.09 | alterego | Sounds like some nice old fashioned dependency hell :)# |
| 13:35.26 | alterego | Urgh, Mandrake?! |
| 13:35.33 | johnx | gah...*has RH5.1 dependency hell flashback* |
| 13:36.07 | lardman | yeah Mandrake upgraded as I went along to Mandriva, add extra disks, etc. Mandrake/iva is really quite rubbish for centralised updates (imo anyway) |
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| 13:38.02 | Alendit | is it normal that make menconfig on maemo kernel gives weird errors? oO |
| 13:38.17 | johnx | I think I had the same problem :/ |
| 13:38.39 | johnx | just poke at it's .config by hand I guess :| |
| 13:38.39 | lardman | Not sure you can run menuconfig |
| 13:38.56 | lardman | certainly wasn't happy when I did so, so I did as johnx said |
| 13:39.30 | Alendit | hmkey, menu oldconfig and that editing by hand works |
| 13:39.53 | Alendit | lardman ?? |
| 13:40.01 | Alendit | what system do you use? |
| 13:40.07 | johnx | yeah, It might be a while until I see a compelling reason to install a 64-bit distro |
| 13:40.11 | Alendit | got no probs with ubuntu and linux32 |
| 13:40.20 | lardman | Alendit: crappy Mandrake/iva mix |
| 13:40.21 | Alendit | i got 64-bit ubuntu |
| 13:40.37 | lardman | ah, so the compat libs work do they? |
| 13:40.41 | Alendit | ok, i've got no idea about mandrake |
| 13:40.43 | johnx | I used to run 64-bit ubuntu but had too many stupid little problems |
| 13:40.54 | Alendit | yo, compat libs are working |
| 13:41.00 | lardman | I think I'll settle for 32bit, I've not need for 64bit |
| 13:41.01 | johnx | that was back in edgy or so maybe... |
| 13:41.55 | Alendit | yes, there no really difference...it's some sort of wasting if you've got 64-bit cpu and no 64-bit system ^^ i know it's stupid |
| 13:42.25 | Alendit | and i had to set up chroot in order to install maemo sdk |
| 13:42.43 | lardman | it installed ok on my system, did it by hand though |
| 13:43.26 | johnx | I wish Debian would get multiarch figured out... |
| 13:44.05 | pupnik_ | for searches: binaries of flex, gperf, icu and libicu: http://www.atoker.com/webkit-maemo/ |
| 13:45.05 | Alendit | someone tried http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokopedia on maemo? |
| 13:48.34 | johnx | I haven't tried it but I really should find a good mobile wikipedia solution |
| 13:49.15 | ustunozgur | i coopied school edition but its contents are very limited |
| 13:49.23 | Alendit | well, i saw it on neo and it's really cool |
| 13:49.39 | ustunozgur | also there is the sdict version but i couldn't dl it |
| 13:50.12 | Alendit | german version feats on 1 gb card |
| 13:50.19 | Alendit | no idea if you're satisfied with german version ^^ |
| 13:50.36 | Alendit | englisch should feat on 3,5gb or something like that |
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| 13:51.29 | Alendit | compiling kernel with squashfs, wish me luck ^^ |
| 13:51.49 | johnx | good luck |
| 13:51.58 | johnx | are you building it as a module or into the kernel? |
| 13:52.16 | Alendit | module |
| 13:52.38 | Alendit | make modules is running now |
| 13:53.12 | Alendit | make modules was without errors |
| 13:53.37 | johnx | yay! |
| 13:53.47 | Andy80 | hi all |
| 13:53.51 | johnx | hi |
| 13:53.57 | lcuk_2 | GREAT, IT COMPILES. SHIP IT NOW!!! ;) |
| 13:54.10 | GeneralAntilles | Gogogo! |
| 13:54.13 | Alendit | ^^ |
| 13:54.21 | GeneralAntilles | That's how Nokia does it, isn't it? |
| 13:54.45 | lardman | cheers for the advice, time to install Ubuntu, bye |
| 13:54.48 | Alendit | kinda of, but only with stable releases ^^ |
| 13:54.56 | lcuk_2 | not at all, nokia has a very strict policy of removing vital source from the packaging before shipping fully |
| 13:56.06 | GeneralAntilles | They use some sort of randomized algorithm to choose which sources not to include. |
| 13:56.13 | Alendit | just a joke, i never seen any unstable thing by nokia (doesn't mean there no) |
| 13:56.28 | GeneralAntilles | Never? |
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| 13:57.07 | Alendit | no |
| 13:57.15 | Alendit | really |
| 13:57.58 | Alendit | my n800 got some freezes but due to 3rd party progs |
| 13:58.19 | GeneralAntilles | Did you ever own a 770? |
| 13:58.28 | GeneralAntilles | Or use any version of OS2007? |
| 13:58.30 | GeneralAntilles | Or OS2008? |
| 13:58.31 | Alendit | no |
| 13:59.08 | Alendit | no, i bought n800 end of last year and flashed in with 2008 |
| 13:59.27 | lcuk_2 | GeneralAntilles, in all fairness, from what i have learnt since i got into maemo is that the n800 is the best and most suitable all round (price as well) device nokia has released for it |
| 13:59.33 | johnx | GeneralAntilles, honestly I haven't had many stability issues with my N800...mostly usability issues |
| 13:59.35 | GeneralAntilles | Just, fyi, Nokia has shiiped a LOT of unstable software. ;) |
| 14:00.17 | johnx | (except for the builtin mail app which is completely useless) |
| 14:00.26 | lcuk_2 | and camera app |
| 14:00.34 | johnx | yeah, that too |
| 14:00.44 | johnx | the actual OS has been pretty good though |
| 14:00.53 | lcuk_2 | and the internet app that randomly closes |
| 14:01.07 | johnx | the internet closed? |
| 14:01.08 | GeneralAntilles | Don't get me wrong, though, Alendit, I lurve my tablets, but stability has not been a strong point in the past. ;) |
| 14:01.18 | lcuk_2 | and the battery charging software that randomly decides you cant switch on your device |
| 14:01.36 | Alendit | anyone tried this hack to connect an usb keyboard to nokia? |
| 14:01.39 | Alendit | without otg |
| 14:01.43 | johnx | I ran into that exactly once, had 30 seconds of freaking out, popped the battery and it was fixed |
| 14:01.44 | lcuk_2 | johnx, sometimes closing a browser window closes the whole browser app |
| 14:01.58 | johnx | never had that problem |
| 14:02.04 | johnx | I don't doubt it exists |
| 14:02.08 | GeneralAntilles | Sometimes browsing the internet closes the whole browser app. :D |
| 14:02.12 | lcuk_2 | Alendit, i have a standard usb keyboard usable through my nokia charger cable -> female2female usb then the keyboard |
| 14:02.41 | Alendit | did you need any additional software for it? |
| 14:02.47 | Alendit | or you just connected it? |
| 14:02.53 | lcuk_2 | bOTG is fully backwards compatible with old usb its just devices must stay low powered |
| 14:03.01 | lcuk_2 | there is a setting which needs to be enabled |
| 14:03.09 | lcuk_2 | ill just get the shell line for you 2 secs |
| 14:03.10 | Alendit | i bought an ff adapted yesterday, now waiting for the shipment |
| 14:03.35 | johnx | I think kontorri's (sp?) usbcontrol removes the need for any shell use... |
| 14:04.18 | Alendit | echo otg > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode ? |
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| 14:04.31 | lcuk_2 | sounds right yer |
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| 14:04.50 | lcuk_2 | theres the other settings for different modes |
| 14:05.31 | Alendit | yeah, can't tried it though till i get my adapter :( |
| 14:06.09 | Alendit | but with usb keyboar (very cheap) n800 is not worse than n810 |
| 14:06.19 | Alendit | since i don't need GPS |
| 14:06.31 | Alendit | bzImage is ready |
| 14:06.51 | lcuk_2 | i grabbed a usb extension from back of old computer and rejigged the cable to make a quick f-f |
| 14:07.12 | lcuk_2 | http://www.internettablettalk.com/wiki/index.php?title=HOWTO:_USB_Host_mode_on_the_N800_using_OS_2008 |
| 14:07.30 | lcuk_2 | that looks pretty much like the full outline |
| 14:07.55 | lcuk_2 | wasnt the one i used. (its buried away somewhere in a pile of links in the backgarden)( |
| 14:08.27 | Alendit | i wonder if there a way to connect a mouse to n800 |
| 14:08.34 | Alendit | with cursor and things like that |
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| 14:09.02 | lcuk_2 | cursor is invisible on n8x0 maemo (tho some apps break and you can see it occasionally) |
| 14:09.39 | lcuk_2 | its set to a blank pointer so it doesnt get in the way, so a mouse would be impractical, though if you compile up another linux it should just work |
| 14:09.51 | Alendit | yeas, i know (for example if you xforward amarok to n800 your can see it), is there a way to turn it on? |
| 14:10.18 | lcuk_2 | dunno, certainly not a desired feature from this end so never examined the possibility |
| 14:10.28 | johnx | I don't know, but I can at least tell you it's not a limitation of the x-server |
| 14:11.21 | Alendit | it gives some hope |
| 14:14.08 | Alendit | ok, i compiled kernel...how can i change kernel in my scatchbox now? |
| 14:15.04 | johnx | hmm? |
| 14:16.22 | johnx | now that you've compiled the squashfs.ko module (or whatever it's called) just copy it to your tablet... |
| 14:16.25 | Alendit | i have new bzImage now, but i don't want to flash my nokia with it without to try it in scratchbox |
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| 14:16.36 | lcuk_2 | backup first ;) |
| 14:16.41 | johnx | scratchbox doesn't run kernels |
| 14:16.52 | Alendit | j0 |
| 14:16.56 | Alendit | i see it now |
| 14:16.57 | johnx | also, you don't need to use the new bzImage since you compiled squashfs as a module |
| 14:17.16 | Alendit | uname -r in scratchbox gives my kernel |
| 14:17.54 | Alendit | sounds reasonable ^^ but i want to try mokopedia on my pc, cause i don't have any 1gb card |
| 14:18.20 | johnx | unless the kernel on your PC supports squashfs you're probably out of luck into you recompile it as well |
| 14:18.26 | Alendit | i should load a squashfs module on my pc |
| 14:18.31 | johnx | yes :) |
| 14:18.43 | Alendit | ubuntu has it |
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| 14:24.56 | pupnik_ | I've got another killer game project idea |
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| 14:33.02 | michele | sigh, still no luck with this hidden ssid :( |
| 14:33.51 | johnx | is there a reason you can't just make it visible? |
| 14:33.56 | michele | yes |
| 14:34.03 | michele | a bug |
| 14:34.16 | johnx | ah :( |
| 14:34.40 | michele | it's a fon router, with two ssids on the same transceiver, and with power saving enabled the IT gets confused |
| 14:34.53 | michele | so the workaround is to hide one of the ssids |
| 14:35.28 | michele | unfortunately, I can only hide the private one, which is the one with WPA |
| 14:35.36 | michele | the public one is plain |
| 14:36.24 | michele | disabling power saving I get less than half the battery power :( |
| 14:36.31 | michele | s/power/lif |
| 14:36.33 | michele | s/power/life |
| 14:36.45 | johnx | that's really unfortunate |
| 14:36.53 | michele | yes... |
| 14:36.57 | lcuk_2 | battery on the 810 or on the fon router? |
| 14:37.08 | michele | the router does not have a battery... |
| 14:37.55 | michele | still, I think the tablet shoult work with hidden networks, it seems to be working for everybody else |
| 14:38.00 | lcuk_2 | 810 wifi is supposed to be very friendly if the connectio nis not used, does it really take it down by half? |
| 14:38.08 | michele | yes |
| 14:38.13 | lcuk_2 | boo |
| 14:38.20 | michele | if I disable power saving, I mean |
| 14:38.23 | GeneralAntilles | The powersaving is incredibly effective. |
| 14:38.30 | lcuk_2 | the GeneralAntilles fallow keeps telling us it is miraculous |
| 14:38.31 | michele | it is |
| 14:38.33 | lcuk_2 | see |
| 14:38.47 | lcuk_2 | wondered when you would chime in gen :P |
| 14:39.24 | GeneralAntilles | Whenever I damn well please! |
| 14:39.37 | lcuk_2 | GeneralAntilles, do you sit there with ceiling cat watching for anyone wanting xchat or dissing the wifi power saving? |
| 14:39.39 | suihkulokki | complain to fon for their buggy ap |
| 14:40.00 | GeneralAntilles | I highlight on everything. :P |
| 14:40.17 | lcuk_2 | you REALLY want your n900 :P |
| 14:40.24 | GeneralAntilles | Hehe |
| 14:41.16 | michele | meanwhile, I have built these http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/puzzles/ |
| 14:41.34 | lcuk_2 | actually gen, about power saving, my 810 has stopped draining when im not using it. when i switch it back on now its where i left it |
| 14:41.36 | michele | they work unmodified, but could use some hildonization |
| 14:42.13 | lcuk_2 | how do i run a .exe file in maemo? ;) |
| 14:42.27 | GeneralAntilles | dosbox |
| 14:43.07 | michele | there's the source |
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| 14:43.23 | Alendit | i've got an idea for a pidgin plugin |
| 14:43.31 | lcuk_2 | well thats ok then, on related matter, wine wouldnt work would it (because of the x86 code) |
| 14:43.31 | Alendit | an 'now compiling' plugin ^^ |
| 14:43.54 | pupnik_ | cool michele |
| 14:43.54 | qos_ | hey guys, does somebody know where is a good place to ensure that an own script gets executed at startup? |
| 14:44.06 | johnx | lcuk_2, nope |
| 14:44.28 | johnx | the some crazy people are using bochs and/or dosbox to run win95/98 |
| 14:44.43 | lcuk_2 | nice |
| 14:44.53 | johnx | qos_, copy it to /etc/init.d and put a link to it in /etc/rc2.d |
| 14:45.06 | johnx | name the link something like S99myscript |
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| 14:46.01 | qos_ | johnx, i was thinking about something like that... is there a good reference to read more about the topic? |
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| 14:46.51 | johnx | qos_, documentation specifically about Nokia's ITOS or Debian/Linux in general? |
| 14:47.45 | qos_ | johnx, i just care about the starting mechanisem... so, if it is the same on both platforms i dont care |
| 14:48.24 | wnd | What is the correct way to start a program at device boot-up as user with environment fully set up (name for D-Bus)? init.d-script would be obvious for root-processes but what about user? Right now I'm using "start-stop-daemon --chuid user", but getting environment properly set for D-Bus seems to require dirty hacks. Maybe I'm doing something terribly wrong. |
| 14:48.40 | johnx | basically it seems fairly similar to debian, except for a couple things: you have ash on the tablet, not bash. and the startup order is likely slightly different |
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| 14:48.58 | alterego | Well that's my N800 gone :( |
| 14:49.05 | michele | ahem.. |
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| 14:49.08 | johnx | alterego, hmm? |
| 14:49.18 | alterego | I donated it. |
| 14:49.29 | lcuk_2 | silicon heaven? |
| 14:49.36 | alterego | No, I gave it away. |
| 14:49.46 | alterego | Well, swapped it for an N80 |
| 14:49.46 | darkip | um, why and to who? |
| 14:49.47 | lcuk_2 | how alturistic of you, i gather you have a replacement |
| 14:50.03 | alterego | Yes, I've still got the 770 and N810 |
| 14:50.07 | darkip | ah cool |
| 14:50.08 | johnx | wnd, I think there are files you can source in something like /etc/af-osso-* |
| 14:50.10 | darkip | n810 is nice :) |
| 14:50.11 | lcuk_2 | wicked, spread the nokia love |
| 14:50.12 | Alendit | michele, tell me moar |
| 14:50.43 | michele | Alendit: what about? |
| 14:50.58 | johnx | qos_, so maybe look for a howto on making an init script in debian |
| 14:51.00 | lcuk_2 | alter, i hope its a good home. remember nokias are for life not just for happy february |
| 14:51.12 | alterego | Heh |
| 14:51.16 | Alendit | about a link clicked by touching screen |
| 14:51.20 | Alendit | touchscreen on laptop? a tablett? |
| 14:51.56 | lcuk_2 | yer michele, im intruiged about this "touchscreen" concept. ive heard they are gonna be big someday |
| 14:52.16 | lcuk_2 | i cant imagine touching my crt screen though |
| 14:52.28 | wnd | johnx, I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but sure, run-standalone.sh can be used to set the environment. (I'm actually saving the environment with "run-stadnalone.sh set >foo" and having the application to process it.) however start-stop-daemon seems to discard the environment, and running run-standalone.sh with start-stop-daemon seems ugly. |
| 14:52.35 | wnd | please correct me if I'm wrong |
| 14:52.43 | qos_ | johnx, why have you choosen rc2.d? there are others around |
| 14:53.00 | johnx | qos_, runlevel 2 is the default runlevel if I remember correctly |
| 14:53.17 | qos_ | johnx, what about the others? |
| 14:53.36 | johnx | wnd, you're correct. I really don't know a less hacky way to do it though... |
| 14:53.37 | michele | lcuk_2: why not, lots of ATMs have crt screens and touch panels :) |
| 14:54.00 | wnd | talking of setting the environment, I wonder why putenv() won't do the trick. setenv(foo, bar, 1) does. |
| 14:54.13 | michele | Alendit: ahah, not it was a mistake because I am used to the tablet now |
| 14:54.30 | johnx | qos_, what about them? they won't be executed when the tablet boots unless you modify /etc/inittab to make it start in a different runlevel |
| 14:54.32 | wnd | johnx, well, thanks anyway. at least it wasn't anything too obvious. |
| 14:55.11 | johnx | wnd, I'm really not the right person to ask about the "right" or "elegant" way to do something :) |
| 14:55.28 | lcuk_2 | michele - back before touch became the norm i used to hate people touching my monitor |
| 14:55.55 | wnd | I guess I'll just hack around it for now |
| 14:59.01 | alterego | Thank God for paravirtualization |
| 15:00.08 | michele | hey! I see the network now! |
| 15:00.13 | johnx | woo! |
| 15:00.19 | alterego | I see your underwear! |
| 15:00.26 | qos_ | it really sucks, that there is no hardware TAB at the n810 ... |
| 15:00.37 | johnx | ctrl-u isn't it? |
| 15:00.42 | alterego | Heh |
| 15:00.55 | johnx | ah |
| 15:00.57 | johnx | ctrl-i |
| 15:01.21 | johnx | sorry didn't mean to erase that whole line you typed |
| 15:01.46 | qos_ | hell, why do you know that? |
| 15:01.58 | johnx | hmm? |
| 15:02.25 | johnx | I tested ctrl-u in a shell, realized it deleted the line then posted my correction... |
| 15:03.47 | hahlo | johnx: os2008 boots from mmc but debian doesn't is bootloader then ok? |
| 15:03.47 | qos_ | its much more comfortable to change tab to the button under the d-pad thing ... ^^ |
| 15:04.30 | johnx | hahlo, yeah, that means your bootmenu is working fine |
| 15:04.42 | johnx | it didn't work for GeneralAntilles either... |
| 15:04.54 | johnx | hahlo, can you manage to ssh in with usb networking? |
| 15:05.16 | hahlo | I try that next |
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| 15:18.25 | K-Fox | i am finding out some files |
| 15:18.48 | K-Fox | where is maemo-statusbar-usbnet_0.6-.dev? |
| 15:18.53 | alterego | Yes, you're right .. I'm insane. |
| 15:19.15 | K-Fox | http://repostory.maemo.org/extras/pool/3.2/free/ here have no |
| 15:19.32 | johnx | that probably won't work on OS2008... |
| 15:20.19 | K-Fox | it is so difficult to set usb networking |
| 15:27.30 | K-Fox | uuuuu..... |
| 15:33.28 | K-Fox | johnx: this command is right ( sudo /etc/init.d/usbnet start ) ? |
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| 15:33.53 | K-Fox | usb networking start |
| 15:35.57 | sp3000 | holy crap, I got a gps fix |
| 15:36.43 | pupnik_ | Remember the game 'comanche' for the PC? This guy has done a niftly little demo that lets you fly over the comanche data files. Just copy C1.DTA and D1.DTA over to it and run groucom.exe in dosbox. |
| 15:36.47 | pupnik_ | Grab http://advsys.net/ken/voxlap/groudraw.zip |
| 15:36.47 | pupnik_ | From http://advsys.net/ken/voxlap.htm |
| 15:36.50 | pupnik_ | Source is included. There's a little bit of x86 ASM in there, but not too much. Would be a gas to port this to SDL and do a little comanche or scorched3d type game with it. |
| 15:38.03 | johnx | K-Fox, if you've created the script that the instructions tell you to then it will work |
| 15:38.15 | darkip | lol |
| 15:38.18 | darkip | lol |
| 15:38.30 | darkip | lol |
| 15:38.39 | darkip | whoops |
| 15:41.54 | K-Fox | whoops whoops |
| 15:43.36 | K-Fox | where is web link of usb networking ? n800 <--> winxp , my os is 2008 |
| 15:45.10 | keesj | K-Fox: on the maemo wiki |
| 15:46.21 | keesj | hmm my 770's wifi does not work any more |
| 15:46.58 | keesj | and when I change my settings (regional) I get a storage full |
| 15:47.59 | K-Fox | please , on the maeo wiki .................. |
| 15:48.13 | K-Fox | a correct link........ |
| 15:48.22 | zoran | keesj, hardware failure? |
| 15:48.23 | keesj | you ask for a link right? |
| 15:48.44 | K-Fox | detail link... |
| 15:53.07 | solmumaha | pupnik_: want a deb for ja2? |
| 15:53.23 | solmumaha | seems to work with 2006-2008 |
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| 15:57.29 | Kggk | Anyone here with an n800 (or better) that would like to test a web app for me? |
| 15:58.24 | GeneralAntilles | There's nothing better than an N800. :P |
| 15:58.53 | alterego | The N810 is so much better :P |
| 15:59.13 | GeneralAntilles | Mr. I'm Happy With 10GB of Storage |
| 16:00.15 | solmumaha | alterego: any chance of those debs? |
| 16:02.35 | alterego | solmumaha, maybe |
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| 16:08.15 | alterego | solmumaha, exactly which debs do you need? |
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| 16:11.14 | solmumaha | those three for chinook |
| 16:11.43 | alterego | Okay |
| 16:11.46 | solmumaha | libruby, ruby18 etc |
| 16:11.59 | solmumaha | i'll mirror them this time, i promise |
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| 16:16.12 | pupnik_ | solmumaha: sure! :) |
| 16:16.14 | alterego | solmumaha, http://alterego.freeshell.org/Ruby-Maemo.tar.gz |
| 16:16.28 | alterego | That's all the base ruby-maemo packages. |
| 16:16.40 | solmumaha | thanks a lot |
| 16:16.50 | alterego | Sorry I've been so crap lately. I've just been working 24/7 the past couple of months :( |
| 16:17.07 | pupnik_ | Kggk your project is certainly interesting. I'm busy right now though :) |
| 16:17.23 | solmumaha | hard to test certain things on scratchbox without mplayer |
| 16:22.19 | pupnik_ | hey solmumaha you wanna see something really cool? |
| 16:22.34 | pupnik_ | http://pupnik.de/pupvox.zip |
| 16:22.46 | pupnik_ | unzip, run from command line, use arrow keys to move |
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| 16:24.58 | pupnik_ | gonna try to get a few more fps out of that |
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| 16:26.21 | pupnik_ | jott: you around? |
| 16:26.35 | jott | yep |
| 16:27.17 | pupnik_ | check out pupvox :) |
| 16:27.22 | jott | nice.. |
| 16:27.26 | jott | quite fast |
| 16:28.00 | jott | long time since i last saw a voxel engine ;) |
| 16:28.34 | zoran | ./c |
| 16:29.55 | solmumaha | runs nicely |
| 16:30.14 | pupnik_ | code by Andrea Griffini |
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| 16:31.10 | solmumaha | now add some enemies and make it delta force |
| 16:31.52 | pupnik_ | i particularly like how smooth it is compared to other voxel engines |
| 16:32.00 | solmumaha | pupnik_: you familiar with sdl? i think it would be very easy to bind the few hardware buttons in ja2 |
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| 16:32.32 | pupnik_ | did you say you have a .deb? |
| 16:32.34 | solmumaha | can't remember exactly what is needed, but at least +/- to crouch/stand would be nice |
| 16:32.37 | solmumaha | yes |
| 16:32.53 | solmumaha | tested it on 2006/hacker too |
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| 16:33.36 | pupnik_ | just grep SDLK |
| 16:33.48 | solmumaha | it seems to be playable on 770, just few annoying pauses from time to time and longer loading times |
| 16:34.03 | solmumaha | i found the file |
| 16:34.07 | pupnik_ | -if ( (keys[SDLK_F6] == SDL_PRESSED)) { } |
| 16:34.13 | pupnik_ | or summat |
| 16:34.28 | pupnik_ | cool |
| 16:34.36 | solmumaha | k, could try it myself although i'm no programmer |
| 16:34.52 | solmumaha | must try it on desktop to see what is missing |
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| 16:38.11 | solmumaha | pupnik_: but here's the deb if you want to test it: http://nakkiboso.com/ja2_0.7_svn.deb |
| 16:38.29 | pupnik_ | ok will you update that file if you make changes? |
| 16:38.46 | pupnik_ | or maybe put a tgz up with things you do? |
| 16:39.12 | solmumaha | i can replace that if i make changes |
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| 16:41.05 | alterego | Has anyone actually done a decent Java port to maemo ? |
| 16:41.10 | solmumaha | that expects to find the data from /media/mmc1/ja2data, but you can change it from .ja2/ja2.ini |
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| 16:49.09 | solmumaha | pupnik_: seems it playable as is, can crouch/shoot etc |
| 16:49.29 | solmumaha | want to host that on your site? |
| 16:49.46 | pupnik_ | sure! |
| 16:50.40 | solmumaha | k, thanks |
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| 18:07.14 | pupnik_ | alias moe='more' |
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| 18:12.18 | jott | or as robert browning and mies van der rohe would say, alias less=more |
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| 18:29.36 | Alendit | hey, isn't there mount in sdk? |
| 18:29.45 | Alendit | what package do i need to get it? |
| 18:31.02 | jott | Alendit: you should use mount on your host system. |
| 18:31.09 | b0unc3 | Alendit: why you need mount in sdk ? |
| 18:31.36 | Alendit | want to mount a quashfs image |
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| 18:31.47 | Alendit | but you are right, i can do it on host |
| 18:37.19 | pupnik_ | hrm 106 fps in a 400x240 window |
| 18:37.56 | inz | pup, is that not enough? |
| 18:37.57 | pupnik_ | sao matsch to lurn |
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| 18:38.30 | pupnik_ | it's a lot :) |
| 18:39.09 | Alendit | yeah, mokopedia runs in a scratchbox ^^ |
| 18:39.30 | Alendit | i can't wait for my 4gb card so i can try it on n800 |
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| 18:40.55 | pupnik_ | inz: check this out: http://pupnik.de/newvox |
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| 18:46.58 | GeneralAntilles | pupnik_, when do I get to shoot things? :P |
| 18:47.02 | inz | i dont want to find out any fun games |
| 18:47.10 | inz | they take too much time |
| 18:48.29 | pupnik_ | just playing with the algorithm GeneralAntilles |
| 18:49.19 | alterego | Is that what you kids are calling it now-a-days. |
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| 19:45.23 | czr | hmm. does N810 display virtual multi-SSID networks? |
| 19:45.29 | czr | (different SSID, same AP MAC) |
| 19:45.34 | czr | I'm only seeing one |
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| 19:47.37 | proteous | does the n810 server me cherry pies, mine doesn't seem to be serving me cherry pies |
| 19:47.50 | proteous | :) |
| 19:48.07 | proteous | and I totaly want |
| 19:48.13 | proteous | MORE PIES PLEASE |
| 19:48.41 | proteous | in other notes: I have no idea if the n810 displays virtual multi-SSID networks |
| 19:49.25 | proteous | Some people do call me the AP Mac though |
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| 20:06.59 | Alendit | hi, can someone test for me if there any error with modprobe on os2008? |
| 20:07.05 | Alendit | ich get modprobe: cannot parse modules.dep |
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| 20:10.25 | jott | Alendit: for some stupid reason depmod is missing in os2008, either build it or use insmod with the full path of the module.. |
| 20:10.44 | Alendit | ok, thanks |
| 20:11.54 | LinuxCode | any of you use gpesyncd with the opensync stuff ? |
| 20:12.10 | LinuxCode | it synced once now it wont work |
| 20:12.17 | LinuxCode | I made a ssh-key |
| 20:12.19 | LinuxCode | thats fine |
| 20:14.04 | LinuxCode | http://cleardefinition.com/page/Sync_Evolution_and_GPE_on_N800/ |
| 20:14.07 | LinuxCode | followed this |
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| 20:45.16 | Alendit | can someone tell me, why a program compile if i fire up make, doesn't with dpkg-buildpackage -b -rfakeroot? oO |
| 20:45.40 | Jaffa | Would need to see the whole log |
| 20:45.58 | Alendit | mom |
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| 20:47.14 | SudoMakeMeSamich | yes dear |
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| 20:49.14 | Alendit | lol |
| 20:49.20 | Alendit | mom like moment |
| 20:50.13 | SudoMakeMeSamich | heh, ah |
| 20:50.54 | Jaffa | Damn. I've got a new toy itch. Hopefully a female/female USB adapter for my N810 and some goodness with USB host will sait me |
| 20:51.11 | SudoMakeMeSamich | :) |
| 20:52.44 | Alendit | jaffa, http://pastebin.org/18041 |
| 20:52.46 | lcuk_2 | jaffa, minutes after connecting it, gleefully typing a web url with usb keyboard, seeing contents on your mem stick and possibly trying to wiggle a mouse you disconnect and move onto the next thing for a few weeks. |
| 20:53.30 | lcuk_2 | (and probably get a bluetooth keyboard because you got wireless device, damn it looks ugly with all those tethers |
| 20:54.17 | Alendit | Jaffa, sry there no error in that paste :( |
| 20:54.21 | Alendit | just output of 1 |
| 20:54.49 | czr | ok. I think there's a 'misfeature" somewhere in n810 then |
| 20:55.08 | czr | it doesn't support multi-ssid networks if they have the same MAC. it only displays the "last one" of that same MAC. |
| 20:55.18 | lcuk_2 | gps so slow you arrive at destination before you get a lock? |
| 20:55.47 | konttori | pupnik_: those comments were all features, not bugs ;) |
| 20:56.09 | konttori | pupnik_: the comment on the old 2006 nuvoblack. |
| 20:56.37 | Alendit | Jaffa, http://pastebin.org/18042 |
| 20:56.39 | Alendit | any ideas? |
| 20:59.38 | czr | does os2008 come with any command line wireless/diagnostics tools? |
| 21:01.43 | acydlord | not by default, but there is a wirelesstools package |
| 21:03.58 | pupnik_ | konttori: i'll post a screenshot or two, and maybe look into the .deb |
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| 21:04.04 | pupnik_ | cheers |
| 21:06.34 | LinuxCode | [20:55] lcuk_2 gps so slow you arrive at destination before you get a lock? |
| 21:06.35 | LinuxCode | lool |
| 21:07.35 | SudoMakeMeSamich | the sad thing is that lcuk_2 gets lost going to the corner store |
| 21:08.11 | SudoMakeMeSamich | it takes him twice as long, 2 minutes to lock the GPS, then 2 minutes to get there |
| 21:08.12 | lcuk_2 | i dont get lost as such, i just have to follow the bus route home. |
| 21:08.13 | acydlord | my 810 is supposed to be here tuesday, i may take off work weds so i can play with it lol |
| 21:08.25 | SudoMakeMeSamich | heh |
| 21:08.25 | lcdd | my first n810 got returned because i thought the gps was broken |
| 21:08.31 | SudoMakeMeSamich | lol |
| 21:08.45 | lcuk_2 | how did they manage to return it? |
| 21:08.51 | lcdd | i did |
| 21:09.02 | acydlord | maybe they didnt use a gps that attained lock faster because they figured most of us geeks actually know how to get out of our neighborhood without needing gps |
| 21:09.18 | SudoMakeMeSamich | just cheap |
| 21:09.35 | SudoMakeMeSamich | same GPS they have in some of the phones, it was made to be cell assisted |
| 21:09.45 | acydlord | i was a bit angry at that article about nokias profit margin being so huge |
| 21:09.54 | SudoMakeMeSamich | which doesn't work in the IT |
| 21:09.54 | acydlord | it's cause they shafted us developers for christmas |
| 21:09.57 | lcuk_2 | i think there is a knack to the gps - it involves something like standing with keyboard open and lay flat on its back whilst being stroked by a nubile angel |
| 21:10.08 | SudoMakeMeSamich | hmm |
| 21:10.11 | SudoMakeMeSamich | sounds fun |
| 21:10.32 | lcuk_2 | it works for me so why shouldnt it work for the nokia ;0 |
| 21:11.15 | acydlord | i have a feeling i'm gonna use the holux bluetooth gps module for my n810 when i actually need to rely on gps |
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| 21:11.22 | SudoMakeMeSamich | okay, why is a windows audio driver 30 frickin MB |
| 21:11.28 | SudoMakeMeSamich | LKSJDL:FJ)!*()@#$ |
| 21:11.33 | SudoMakeMeSamich | wtf is in there! |
| 21:11.38 | SudoMakeMeSamich | a dump of wikipedia? |
| 21:11.40 | acydlord | a rootkit |
| 21:11.42 | lcuk_2 | acydlord, why bother, once it gets a lock its rock steady (well, within a few mph anyway) |
| 21:11.55 | SudoMakeMeSamich | even a rootkit can fint in 2k |
| 21:11.58 | acydlord | and the tears of steve balmer |
| 21:12.14 | SudoMakeMeSamich | 30mb??? |
| 21:12.39 | SudoMakeMeSamich | there'd better be a flight sim hidden in there |
| 21:12.40 | Esworp | Has anyone had a problem downloading files throough the browser in os2008? |
| 21:12.43 | acydlord | lcuk, mostly because a good part of my gps use will be offroad in the boonies |
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| 21:13.23 | lcuk_2 | ive not had it drop a lock yet with city driving, as long as you have a clear sky (and a 20minute head start) you can get anywhere |
| 21:13.34 | SudoMakeMeSamich | lol |
| 21:13.35 | glass_ | you'll have easier conditions without building around you |
| 21:13.40 | glass_ | buildings |
| 21:14.03 | Esworp | Nothing wants to download here. At first, the app conplained of insuffiicient memory, whenthere was plenty. But now it jus lists the item and it stalls away. |
| 21:15.26 | Esworp | Any thoughs? |
| 21:15.40 | LinuxCode | sorry lcuk_2 |
| 21:15.47 | LinuxCode | there was meant to be a LOL |
| 21:15.50 | LinuxCode | behind that |
| 21:15.54 | LinuxCode | and hi ;-} |
| 21:16.08 | lcuk_2 | evening |
| 21:16.20 | LinuxCode | any of you use gpesyncd ? |
| 21:16.36 | LinuxCode | to sync the gpe stuff from the N810 to evolution ? |
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| 21:21.18 | Esworp | Erming /did/ work for me to get things on google calendar. |
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| 21:23.09 | Tama^2 | Hello folks |
| 21:23.16 | SudoMakeMeSamich | OMGHI2U |
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| 21:30.44 | blast007 | is there an easy way to recover data off a non-bootable N800? (it's doing a reboot loop) |
| 21:32.08 | GeneralAntilles | You have auto-connect and ssh enabled? |
| 21:32.28 | lcuk_2 | and can you type REALLY quickly |
| 21:32.35 | GeneralAntilles | ... |
| 21:32.40 | GeneralAntilles | Yeah, no, lcuk_2. :P |
| 21:32.43 | GeneralAntilles | flasher tool . . . |
| 21:32.54 | lcuk_2 | thats the cheats way out :P |
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| 21:35.33 | lcuk_2 | i was making a nokia n810 executive "lie on the bed and be able to rest arm and write on the screen without injuring wrist because nokia is embedded in a deep resess in a plank of wood" device. |
| 21:36.59 | Esworp | Dammit this browser glitch is frustrating. I have no clue what to do, and work to be done. |
| 21:37.19 | lcuk_2 | is it a specific site, or if you try to download from anywhere |
| 21:37.54 | blast007 | GeneralAntilles: nope, don't have SSH |
| 21:38.35 | Esworp | Anywhere. Large files create an memory complaint and stall, little ones just stall. |
| 21:39.59 | lcuk_2 | so its downloading the file thats the problem, not listing the proceeding webpage |
| 21:40.19 | Esworp | Oddly, if i leave a file to stall, open some other program, or swiitch to one, when i come back to file is not listed anymore. |
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| 21:40.51 | Esworp | Right, pages are rendering fine. |
| 21:41.08 | GeneralAntilles | blast007, then you're basically screwed. |
| 21:41.16 | blast007 | k ;) |
| 21:41.21 | lcuk_2 | your memory card that its trying to save to isnt full by any chance is it? |
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| 21:41.50 | blast007 | which one would it try saving to? |
| 21:42.07 | lcuk_2 | i dunno, check all of the memory cards for space |
| 21:42.11 | blast007 | k |
| 21:42.26 | lcuk_2 | see if any are running on empty |
| 21:42.33 | Esworp | Nope, and they aren't hung up in a read only error either. The downloads even behave this way when saving to the builtin memory. |
| 21:43.03 | lcuk_2 | was just a thought |
| 21:43.26 | Esworp | Sure, i was hoping that was it, too. |
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| 21:44.04 | lcuk_2 | you could try clearing internet cache if it exists on 810? |
| 21:44.39 | Esworp | I did. :) |
| 21:44.42 | Esworp | I did. :) No change on this n800 |
| 21:45.19 | GeneralAntilles | blast007, after you reflash, follow the steps here: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8631 |
| 21:45.22 | lcuk_2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.05 | GeneralAntilles | That's give you three things: a bootable backup for swift recoveries day or night, USB networking immediately at boot for recoveries from those REALLY bad crashes, and the ability to boot other stuff like johnx's Debian. |
| 21:46.08 | dskippy | Does anyone know of any bluetooth headsets that work well on the n800? It apparently doesn't support A2DP which is what most headsets use. |
| 21:46.30 | blast007 | GeneralAntilles: okay, cool, thanks |
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| 22:00.50 | braddbr | anyone know if theres a .bmp editor for os2008? |
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| 22:01.50 | Esworp | Screw it. I'm reflashing. Dammit. |
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| 22:13.29 | acydlord | braddbr, tux paint? |
| 22:13.50 | braddbr | ok, i'll give it a shot.. thank you |
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| 22:13.57 | lcdd | maybe one in five of the feeds i'd like to subscribe to work at all in the os2008 rss reader |
| 22:14.28 | lcdd | are there any better? |
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| 22:22.46 | daveu2 | So I tried ripping a dvd to avi and playing it on my n810, but I get 1fps. |
| 22:23.01 | daveu2 | Should I transcode to ogg/mpeg instead? Should I try encoding at lower quality? |
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| 22:24.45 | cesman | daveu2: what is it you are using to transcode? |
| 22:24.46 | |tbb| | hi together |
| 22:25.19 | daveu2 | mplayer using dvd::rip |
| 22:25.19 | cesman | there is a program specifically for transcoding so it is easy to playback on the IT |
| 22:25.27 | cesman | dvd::rip using transcode |
| 22:25.29 | daveu2 | Really? Which program? |
| 22:25.30 | cesman | but I digress |
| 22:25.47 | daveu2 | Are there instructions somewhere? |
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| 22:26.20 | cesman | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/transcoding_how-to.html |
| 22:27.00 | cesman | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/VideoEncoding |
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| 22:28.17 | |tbb| | anyone knows if the wlan adapter of the tablets going to power save mode while doing an adhoc connection? |
| 22:29.04 | GeneralAntilles | Try http://mediautils.garage.maem.org for on-demand. |
| 22:29.16 | GeneralAntilles | http://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/ |
| 22:34.52 | Blafasel | There's not a nice way to play audio via the network, the host is windows? |
| 22:35.26 | cesman | Blafasel: install a upnp server on Windows |
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| 22:35.58 | cesman | http://fuppes.ulrich-voelkel.de/download/ |
| 22:36.21 | lcdd | hnngh. the rss reader doesn't handle Content-Encoding: gzip |
| 22:36.50 | Blafasel | cesman: And which player on the maemo side supports that? |
| 22:37.14 | lcdd | looks like I need to figure out how to set up a deflating proxy |
| 22:37.35 | cesman | Blafasel: mediastreamer |
| 22:47.50 | Blafasel | Thanks a lot, will give it a try |
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| 23:02.06 | acydlord | canola does a decent job of playing over the network as well |
| 23:02.16 | acydlord | as does webot |
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| 23:06.48 | Alendit | i've got mokopedia working on my n800 ^^ |
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| 23:07.13 | Super_Cas | hi |
| 23:08.13 | Alendit | hi, super_cas |
| 23:08.28 | Super_Cas | ok n800 or archos 605 |
| 23:08.43 | Super_Cas | can n800 go to stage6.com |
| 23:09.18 | shackan | no |
| 23:09.33 | shackan | I've never tried actually |
| 23:09.38 | Alendit | well, yes ;) |
| 23:09.43 | shackan | it does? |
| 23:09.47 | Alendit | but i don't think you can watch movies online |
| 23:09.55 | shackan | well, DUH |
| 23:09.59 | Alendit | you should download them and run mplayer or something like that |
| 23:10.19 | shackan | Alendit: well, most of stage6 is HD, and the rest is fullscreen quality |
| 23:10.31 | shackan | you're NEVER going to get decent playback on the tablet |
| 23:10.57 | acydlord | i've tried stage6 on the n800, doesnt work |
| 23:11.08 | Alendit | never tried, but i think use could with -fast option |
| 23:11.25 | acydlord | you'd need to add gstreamer-divx |
| 23:11.29 | Alendit | i watched house streamed with vlc after it was dl'ed from stage6 |
| 23:15.39 | fysa | mplayer is 2343242 faster than gstreamer bullshit |
| 23:15.59 | Alendit | ^^ |
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| 23:16.18 | fysa | I regularly watch standard DVD rips *without reencoding* using mplayer. |
| 23:16.24 | Alendit | ca. 2343242 times faste ;) |
| 23:16.38 | fysa | as long as you play from the SD card and not try to stream -- the TCP/IP load is just enough to cause skipping in video. |
| 23:18.12 | fysa | i.e., Ratatouille, the two disc XVID (~600mb .avi x2) works perfectly. |
| 23:18.22 | fysa | not that I know about such things. ;) |
| 23:19.08 | LinuxCode | fysa, on the n810 ? |
| 23:19.11 | fysa | N800 |
| 23:19.14 | fysa | with OS2008 |
| 23:19.15 | LinuxCode | neat |
| 23:19.29 | fysa | it was absolutely gorgeous at the dpi of this screen. |
| 23:19.32 | LinuxCode | ok moonlander sucks |
| 23:19.42 | LinuxCode | if you dont edit the keymap |
| 23:21.36 | Alendit | n800 is just as fast as n810, isn't it? |
| 23:21.45 | nomis | Alendit: no |
| 23:21.49 | Alendit | ? |
| 23:21.53 | Alendit | sure? |
| 23:21.53 | nomis | ! |
| 23:22.01 | fysa | yes |
| 23:22.01 | nomis | ah sorry. |
| 23:22.09 | Alendit | link plz |
| 23:22.12 | nomis | For some reason I read "just as fat as..." |
| 23:22.22 | _collin_ | n8 |
| 23:22.23 | fysa | :) |
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| 23:22.57 | Alendit | ^^ |
| 23:23.16 | fysa | link to? |
| 23:24.22 | Alendit | link to info that n800 is slower than n810 |
| 23:24.39 | nomis | Alendit: it isn't, ignore me :) |
| 23:24.40 | LinuxCode | tuxpuck = shufflepuck |
| 23:24.45 | LinuxCode | its too hard though |
| 23:24.46 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 23:24.51 | Alendit | j0, i know, it wasa funny |
| 23:24.53 | Alendit | *was |
| 23:25.08 | Alendit | anyone got 1gb free space and want to test wikipedia on n800? |
| 23:25.13 | Alendit | or n810 |
| 23:25.13 | Alendit | ? |
| 23:25.24 | Alendit | offline wikipedia = mokopedia |
| 23:28.08 | LinuxCode | does the n800 have IR ? |
| 23:28.30 | cesman | no, it doesn't |
| 23:28.42 | LinuxCode | theres a ir remote here |
| 23:28.43 | lcuk_2 | LinuxCode, moonlander prefs - with the onboard i couldnt find the keymap, where is it |
| 23:28.44 | LinuxCode | odd |
| 23:28.57 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, its tells you in the app |
| 23:29.04 | LinuxCode | ~/.moonlander or so |
| 23:29.09 | LinuxCode | cant recall |
| 23:29.12 | LinuxCode | I had to reboot |
| 23:29.14 | LinuxCode | ;-p |
| 23:29.17 | lcuk_2 | i looked but couldnt see it |
| 23:29.19 | LinuxCode | couldnt esc |
| 23:29.41 | lcuk_2 | fullscreen button works nicely |
| 23:29.41 | LinuxCode | white print bottom screen |
| 23:29.44 | LinuxCode | 2/3rd down |
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| 23:29.50 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, it does ? |
| 23:29.53 | LinuxCode | on the N810 ? |
| 23:30.27 | lcuk_2 | oh crap yer i think so - quake just started at full volume |
| 23:30.32 | lcuk_2 | the missus isnt happy! |
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| 23:31.33 | kohlenmunk | maemo |
| 23:31.56 | lcuk_2 | LinuxCode, yer, escape quits (lower button on front left pad ;) ) |
| 23:32.00 | kohlenmunk | maemo |
| 23:32.12 | LinuxCode | didnt here |
| 23:32.13 | LinuxCode | odd |
| 23:32.16 | kohlenmunk | maemo |
| 23:32.27 | kohlenmunk | maemo |
| 23:32.30 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, didnt ou say the new fbreader was borked ? |
| 23:32.39 | lcuk_2 | yes but it got updated |
| 23:32.43 | LinuxCode | ahh ok |
| 23:32.45 | kohlenmunk | maemo |
| 23:32.47 | LinuxCode | I updated it works |
| 23:32.50 | LinuxCode | so I wondered |
| 23:32.56 | LinuxCode | kohlenmunk, shut up! |
| 23:32.58 | LinuxCode | jesus |
| 23:32.59 | lcuk_2 | it now works nicely going forewards on my big books |
| 23:33.02 | kohlenmunk | mamo |
| 23:33.11 | kohlenmunk | poor Linuxcode |
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| 23:33.22 | lcuk_2 | backwards is a bit sluggish now |
| 23:33.35 | lcuk_2 | but not enough to file a bug report, i cant be sure it was like that before |
| 23:33.37 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 23:33.44 | LinuxCode | seems ok ish here |
| 23:33.54 | kohlenmunk | poor LinuxCode |
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| 23:35.22 | lcuk_2 | linuxcode: http://www.fbreader.org/mantis/view.php?id=74 |
| 23:35.37 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, it wont let me get out mate |
| 23:35.39 | LinuxCode | moonlander |
| 23:36.01 | LinuxCode | menu key mate ? |
| 23:36.03 | kohlenmunk | why |
| 23:36.08 | lcuk_2 | it just let me out a few seconds ago |
| 23:36.10 | LinuxCode | full screen key dont work |
| 23:36.13 | kohlenmunk | why |
| 23:36.15 | lcuk_2 | escape key |
| 23:36.18 | lcuk_2 | left hand side |
| 23:36.32 | kohlenmunk | why |
| 23:36.38 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, am I blond ? |
| 23:36.43 | LinuxCode | where is the esc key lol |
| 23:37.05 | lcuk_2 | there are only 2 fudgin buttons on the left hand side, press each one and try ;) |
| 23:37.11 | kohlenmunk | WHY |
| 23:37.32 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, I am lol |
| 23:37.37 | LinuxCode | this thing hates me |
| 23:37.39 | kohlenmunk | WHY |
| 23:38.02 | lcuk_2 | lol you broked it |
| 23:38.05 | kohlenmunk | WHY |
| 23:38.28 | kohlenmunk | WHY |
| 23:39.04 | LinuxCode | can somebody remove kohlenmunk ? |
| 23:39.11 | kohlenmunk | WHY |
| 23:39.16 | kohlenmunk | poor LinuxCode |
| 23:39.27 | *** join/#maemo Niacin (n=Niacin@cpe-66-65-152-122.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:39.34 | Niacin | does the n770 have a built in serial port? |
| 23:39.42 | Niacin | like inside? or through expansion? |
| 23:39.43 | LinuxCode | Niacin, no |
| 23:39.46 | LinuxCode | usb |
| 23:39.51 | LinuxCode | ohh 770 |
| 23:39.53 | LinuxCode | not sure |
| 23:39.56 | LinuxCode | the n810 doesnt |
| 23:39.59 | kohlenmunk | poor LinuxCode |
| 23:40.01 | Niacin | ;\ has anyone broken it open and checked? |
| 23:40.26 | kohlenmunk | poor LinuxCode |
| 23:40.28 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, are you on the N800 and you have got an esc key ? |
| 23:40.49 | kohlenmunk | poor LinuxCode |
| 23:40.49 | johnx | LinuxCode, it's the curly arrow on the left |
| 23:40.52 | kohlenmunk | poor LinuxCode |
| 23:41.04 | johnx | if it doesn't work with a tap hold it down |
| 23:41.05 | LinuxCode | the yen sign ? |
| 23:41.14 | lcuk_2 | no, on 810 and i have a brightness sensor, a camera eye, then a home button and finally an escape key |
| 23:41.15 | *** join/#maemo |tbb| (i=5438aadd@gateway/web/ajax/mibbit.com/x-309b49305a7c9d5c) |
| 23:41.31 | johnx | LinuxCode, you're on an N800, right? |
| 23:41.34 | *** join/#maemo k`sOSe (n=chpst3r@bugged.keamera-labs.net) |
| 23:41.38 | LinuxCode | omg |
| 23:41.42 | LinuxCode | theres keys! |
| 23:41.44 | LinuxCode | loool |
| 23:41.50 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:41.50 | LinuxCode | wtf |
| 23:41.56 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:41.58 | LinuxCode | the manual didnt mention them |
| 23:42.06 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:42.17 | LinuxCode | ok so the bottom thing is the esc key ? |
| 23:42.20 | lcuk_2 | but you needed one of them to update your flash when you first got it... |
| 23:42.32 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:42.44 | elb | hah that *is* ESC |
| 23:42.45 | elb | nice |
| 23:42.47 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:42.57 | elb | or at least, osso-xterm treats it as ESC |
| 23:43.01 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:43.02 | lcuk_2 | yes |
| 23:43.04 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:43.04 | elb | which is good enough for me ;-) |
| 23:43.07 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:43.11 | lcuk_2 | i use it to exit quake |
| 23:43.14 | johnx | LinuxCode, ok from top to bottom: curly arrow = escape, menu = menu, and home = home |
| 23:43.14 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:43.21 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:43.24 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:43.52 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:43.55 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:44.22 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:44.25 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:44.29 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:45.13 | *** join/#maemo denny (i=denny@freenode/staff/denny) |
| 23:45.15 | lcuk_2 | am i just being totally thick or does ASCII stop way 273? |
| 23:45.29 | lcuk_2 | way before 273 |
| 23:45.29 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:45.31 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:45.33 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:45.36 | *** mode/#maemo [+o denny] by ChanServ |
| 23:45.37 | kohlenmunk | POOR LINUXCODE |
| 23:45.38 | LinuxCode | denny, appreciate it |
| 23:45.43 | *** mode/#maemo [+b *!*n=WP-Gast@*.dclient.hispeed.ch] by denny |
| 23:45.46 | denny | hush. |
| 23:45.48 | *** mode/#maemo [-o denny] by denny |
| 23:45.53 | LinuxCode | thanks |
| 23:46.01 | denny | eww, sucky banmask |
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| 23:46.11 | LinuxCode | denny, hehe |
| 23:46.13 | elb | thank you, denny |
| 23:46.31 | *** mode/#maemo [+o denny] by ChanServ |
| 23:46.32 | *** mode/#maemo [+b %*!*@77-56-70-119.dclient.hispeed.ch] by denny |
| 23:46.37 | *** mode/#maemo [-b *!*n=WP-Gast@*.dclient.hispeed.ch] by denny |
| 23:46.40 | *** mode/#maemo [-o denny] by denny |
| 23:46.57 | lcuk_2 | the troll was right tho, it is linuxcode who didnt know about buttons |
| 23:47.10 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, so the bottom key is esc ? |
| 23:47.13 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, bahaha |
| 23:47.13 | lcuk_2 | yes |
| 23:47.19 | LinuxCode | whats the top key ? |
| 23:47.25 | lcuk_2 | system menu |
| 23:47.28 | LinuxCode | ahhh |
| 23:47.37 | lcuk_2 | hold it down for a couple of seconds and all programs will be minimised |
| 23:47.40 | LinuxCode | and then id assume the bottom left key is menu ? |
| 23:47.43 | johnx | LinuxCode, you're on an N800, right? |
| 23:47.45 | lcuk_2 | quick tap just opens it |
| 23:47.48 | *** part/#maemo kohlenmunk (n=WP-Gast@77-56-70-119.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 23:47.50 | LinuxCode | johnx, N810 mate |
| 23:47.53 | johnx | aaah |
| 23:48.17 | elb | LinuxCode: the key with the same icon as the title bar is menu, yeah |
| 23:48.31 | LinuxCode | sweet |
| 23:48.42 | LinuxCode | Im sure it didnt mention them in the manual they give you |
| 23:48.43 | elb | I trust you noticed the fullscreen and +/- buttons ;-) |
| 23:48.45 | *** part/#maemo denny (i=denny@freenode/staff/denny) |
| 23:48.45 | LinuxCode | or im blind |
| 23:48.50 | LinuxCode | elb, course |
| 23:48.51 | elb | the manual doesn't mention a lot of things |
| 23:49.02 | LinuxCode | hence I thought lcuk_2 was taking the piss haha |
| 23:49.06 | LinuxCode | ;-D |
| 23:49.08 | lcuk_2 | i almost backed out of this when i saw how few buttons were on the front - i liked the front of the 800 but was desperate for the keyboard |
| 23:49.18 | elb | it's pretty clearly still a hacker's device |
| 23:49.23 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, I love the keybaord |
| 23:49.29 | LinuxCode | elb, I kinda agree |
| 23:49.33 | LinuxCode | but it does all I wanted |
| 23:49.40 | LinuxCode | and more is still happeneing |
| 23:49.45 | lcuk_2 | its good for some things, but i am getting a bluetooth one in (17) days |
| 23:49.55 | LinuxCode | as long as amsn, xchat, fbreader etc.. work |
| 23:49.55 | elb | oh, yeah, if you're willing ot futz with it, it's an amazingly powerful idea |
| 23:50.08 | elb | but the documentation is thin, and a lot of things don't quite Just Work |
| 23:50.08 | LinuxCode | and I can get my email |
| 23:50.14 | LinuxCode | theres still problems I need to sort |
| 23:50.25 | LinuxCode | like syncing with gpesyncd |
| 23:50.32 | LinuxCode | dunno why it wont sync atm |
| 23:50.37 | LinuxCode | it appeared to do it once |
| 23:50.41 | elb | lcuk_2: I've been trying to decide if a bluetooth keyboard would mean I could not carry a laptop some significant percentage of the time |
| 23:50.48 | elb | I think with a better terminal application, it would |
| 23:51.10 | LinuxCode | elb, I want bash! |
| 23:51.15 | elb | LinuxCode: so install bash |
| 23:51.16 | LinuxCode | this ash non-sense |
| 23:51.23 | LinuxCode | elb, true could do |
| 23:51.25 | lcuk_2 | the tiny keyboard is perfect for day to day and entering web addresses etc is ok and maybe a few quick mails, but for coding i need a main board |
| 23:51.26 | elb | it's in maemo hackers or maemo extras or one of those |
| 23:51.36 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, true |
| 23:51.43 | LinuxCode | for me its mainly a ssh device |
| 23:51.50 | LinuxCode | if something goes wrong on a server |
| 23:52.03 | LinuxCode | and I need to organise |
| 23:52.13 | LinuxCode | which is why I must get gpesyncd sorted ;-| |
| 23:52.24 | LinuxCode | non of you fellas happen to use it ? |
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| 23:53.02 | lcuk_2 | ours is a jack of all trades, from games to dev to chatting to music to movies *and* its also now our remote control (ive ditched our infra-red one and hacked a TCP pad together |
| 23:53.18 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, haha |
| 23:53.19 | lcuk_2 | i havent configured mail - i use gmail |
| 23:53.23 | LinuxCode | k |
| 23:53.27 | LinuxCode | a little warning |
| 23:53.40 | LinuxCode | if you, by chance, like me have 6000 messages in your inbox |
| 23:53.44 | LinuxCode | N810 != good |
| 23:53.45 | LinuxCode | lol |
| 23:53.54 | LinuxCode | but theres an option to only get the last 10 messages |
| 23:54.02 | dphil9000 | Gmail pop or imap work well |
| 23:54.19 | elb | LinuxCode: there are several other mail clients which you might find handle that better |
| 23:54.20 | LinuxCode | I need to find out how to kill the email |
| 23:54.24 | elb | claws, modest, etc. |
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| 23:54.35 | LinuxCode | elb, yes I need to experiment |
| 23:54.41 | johnx | LinuxCode, seriously stay away from the built-in email app |
| 23:54.49 | Alendit | i need testers |
| 23:54.51 | LinuxCode | I have them installed ..problem is I require certificates |
| 23:54.53 | LinuxCode | ;-| |
| 23:55.02 | LinuxCode | I cant get the damn certs to work |
| 23:55.09 | LinuxCode | johnx, I figured that bit |
| 23:55.14 | LinuxCode | still need to test more |
| 23:55.25 | johnx | Alendit, what would I be testing? |
| 23:55.26 | lcuk_2 | its no wonder linuxcode, to get the certs to work you have to hold down the esc key |
| 23:55.28 | LinuxCode | I need to figure how to flash my device to the latest OS2008 build |
| 23:55.33 | Alendit | portable wikipedia |
| 23:55.37 | LinuxCode | lcuk_2, you kidding ? |
| 23:55.41 | lcuk_2 | yes |
| 23:55.44 | LinuxCode | hahah |
| 23:55.52 | Alendit | 1gb big image that contain whole german wikipedia |
| 23:55.57 | LinuxCode | ;-D |
| 23:55.59 | elb | LinuxCode: you can install your CA certificate for the system, that might do the job |
| 23:56.01 | Alendit | or 3,2gb image with english |
| 23:56.07 | LinuxCode | elb, already did mate |
| 23:56.08 | elb | that's in the control panel, I think |
| 23:56.15 | lcuk_2 | ah alen, its just gone from being w00000t to "oh" - im english so i cant test |
| 23:56.16 | LinuxCode | problem is thawte exports as p12 |
| 23:56.22 | LinuxCode | I converted to pem/crt |
| 23:56.30 | elb | ahh you can use opessl to ... never mind |
| 23:56.32 | LinuxCode | imported fine..but cant seem to sign email |
| 23:57.06 | LinuxCode | Alendit, I speak german, but I dont see why I would want a german wikipedia ;-| |
| 23:57.08 | LinuxCode | sorry |
| 23:57.13 | LinuxCode | + I have not enough space |
| 23:57.22 | LinuxCode | I still havent ordered the 8GB sdhc card |
| 23:57.32 | lcuk_2 | alen, if you had a smaller test version people would be more willing to see |
| 23:57.36 | elb | 3.2GB of poorly researched articles, politically skewed maunderings, and outright lies |
| 23:57.39 | elb | I'm so excited |
| 23:57.44 | johnx | Alendit, sadly I don't speak German and I don't have 3.2GB of space :( |
| 23:57.53 | lcuk_2 | elb, why are you describing my wikipedia page? |
| 23:58.03 | elb | heh |
| 23:58.03 | LinuxCode | haha |
| 23:58.05 | LinuxCode | ;-} |
| 23:58.09 | Alendit | i'll make smaller test image tomorow |
| 23:58.14 | Alendit | tomorrow |
| 23:58.21 | LinuxCode | for you who didnt see my warning! |
| 23:58.29 | lcuk_2 | does it load from internal browser |
| 23:58.31 | LinuxCode | rss reader applet...dont enable scrolling |
| 23:58.33 | Alendit | yes |
| 23:58.40 | LinuxCode | its a battery kiler, cpu killer |
| 23:58.42 | Alendit | it runs lighttps daemon |
| 23:58.44 | LinuxCode | and a pain in the arse |
| 23:58.46 | LinuxCode | hehe |
| 23:59.39 | lcuk_2 | cool Alendit, when you become happy with system whats the chances of extracting from english DB? |
