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| 01:11.35 | blackd0t | Hi guys! |
| 01:12.44 | blackd0t | I can't find a working version of ettercap anywhere for N770/800, does anyone know where I should look for it? Arpspoof from dsniff package seems to not work as it should for arp poisoning :/ |
| 01:13.10 | pupnik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwPb_vunkQY p&|a mockup: buttons and usability study // this is how you do it. |
| 01:14.36 | GNUton | Hi |
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| 01:16.13 | blackd0t | So anyone had any experience with successful arp poisoning actions from the n800 ? |
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| 01:38.18 | derf | What the gekk... I added my application to downloads.maemo.org's OS 2008 database last night, and now it's not there. |
| 01:38.43 | derf | And the latest date in the "Fresh" list is 2007-11-21. |
| 01:44.01 | kuzew | Hello, how does one enable the use of hidd under OS2008? |
| 01:46.38 | kuzew | Im trying to get my mouse to work with my n800 |
| 01:46.48 | kuzew | Just for the fun of it |
| 01:55.04 | blackd0t | So anyone knows if there is an ettercap port somewhere for n770/800 ? |
| 02:03.23 | pupnik | hmrm |
| 02:03.33 | pupnik | not ever seen one mentioned |
| 02:03.58 | blackd0t | That's weird because it's a very useful tool that I often use on my laptop |
| 02:04.53 | blackd0t | And noone ever mentions it on any forum |
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| 04:43.51 | unique311 | pupnik, you alive? |
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| 04:57.41 | skibur | I was just wondering... Anybody running DOSBox on their N800? |
| 05:02.51 | skibur | Hum... |
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| 05:24.52 | K`zan | Anyone know how to set "track up" in maemo mapper? |
| 05:26.04 | skibur | sorry |
| 05:27.12 | K`zan | videocenter maemo |
| 05:27.16 | K`zan | ww |
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| 05:29.24 | skibur | Anybody have DosBox installed on their Nokia Internet Tablet? |
| 05:34.06 | khertan_ | Hi ! |
| 05:35.05 | Vulcanis | Oh, ski... That would be... Nice. I did not think about that. |
| 05:38.44 | K`zan_n800 | Anyone tried out Simple Mapper? No menu and setting long/lat gets close but not to what one sets, did I miss something? |
| 05:39.09 | K`zan_n800 | No Map either, just a black screen with a red dot. |
| 05:39.51 | K`zan_n800 | Got maps from map and maemo mapper... |
| 05:41.06 | K`zan_n800 | No info from google either :-/ |
| 05:44.23 | khertan_ | skibur: i'm running minivmac ... far better :) |
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| 06:26.29 | K`zan_n800 | How does one add keyboard shortcuts, no hardware keyboard control panel entry in 2008. |
| 06:27.10 | K`zan_n800 | Only the ability to change a preselected set under bluetooth keyboard. |
| 06:31.27 | K`zan_n800 | Sigh, so many questions and google is so useless :-(. |
| 06:35.20 | Vulcanis | wish I had mine with me |
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| 06:39.26 | K`zan_n800 | :-) small enough that you should :-) |
| 06:46.52 | Luria | is there a deb for vim? |
| 06:47.23 | Luria | (yes, i searched) |
| 06:47.33 | K`zan | I think so, try apt-get install vim, I haven't gotten to that yet :). |
| 06:49.38 | Luria | yeah, no go |
| 06:49.55 | Luria | there was a deb for 07 |
| 06:49.58 | K`zan | May still be repository problems with the update going on. |
| 06:50.31 | K`zan | vi seems like a problem tapping, hopefully work out better with the BT keyboard. |
| 06:50.37 | Luria | i havent seen one in the repos. i was hoping it was one of those isolated debs hosted on a webpage |
| 06:51.02 | K`zan | Understand, apps are such a mess to find for the n800... |
| 06:51.05 | Luria | well, seeing as I'm here on my n800+bt kybd... |
| 06:51.42 | K`zan_n800 | LOL, me too :-) |
| 06:52.16 | K`zan | Trying to figure out why all my .wmv files suddenly stopped working here on the kubuntu desktop. |
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| 06:52.45 | Luria | i finally dumped kubuntu for ubuntu for my 2nd machine |
| 06:53.06 | K`zan | I just never got enthralled with Gnome, KDE is me :-) |
| 06:53.21 | Luria | neither was i, but i like gnome+compiz |
| 06:53.34 | K`zan | Wonder if having tvtime running when I launched the video screwed it up?!? |
| 06:53.57 | K`zan | I think gnome underlies the n800 stuff. |
| 06:54.08 | K`zan | Have to check out compiz |
| 06:54.09 | Luria | still dont get how there is a one click install for flash tho. |
| 06:54.20 | Luria | have you seen the youtube stuff? |
| 06:54.22 | K`zan | px tvtime |
| 06:54.38 | K`zan | No, so far done nothing with video on the n800. |
| 06:54.50 | K`zan | Mostly use it with fbreader for ebook reading. |
| 06:54.57 | Luria | i mean compiz vids on youtube |
| 06:55.07 | K`zan | Playing around some with maemo mapper now. |
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| 06:55.18 | K`zan | Err, LOL, no will check it out. |
| 06:55.45 | Luria | it makes virtual desktops more usable |
| 06:55.57 | Luria | not to mention pretty :-) |
| 06:56.34 | K`zan | But what would I do without all my kde krutches :)? |
| 06:57.11 | K`zan | lemme see if I can get video from utube to work, seem hosed locally. |
| 06:57.26 | Luria | you'd just Get it |
| 06:59.51 | K`zan | That works, looks like compriz would be hard on the eye the way the windows flap :). |
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| 07:00.12 | Luria | you can turn that off :-) |
| 07:00.31 | K`zan | Still looking at more, seems to be that cube approach I saw on something else a while back... |
| 07:00.48 | K`zan | Right ,beryl |
| 07:00.56 | Luria | compiz is beryl |
| 07:01.08 | Luria | beryl forked, remerged |
| 07:01.16 | Luria | more or less |
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| 07:01.55 | Luria | GPoLitics is not a pasttime; im sure you can find a good summary somewhere :-) |
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| 07:06.43 | K`zan | Looks like some very interesting stuff there, not sure this old 6600GT/128M would do real well with that kind of workout. |
| 07:07.07 | Vulcanis | it probably would |
| 07:07.08 | Luria | meh. i run it on a 5900xt 128mb |
| 07:07.13 | Luria | does fine. |
| 07:07.15 | Vulcanis | would work* |
| 07:07.25 | Luria | at 16x12, iirc |
| 07:07.44 | K`zan | Hummm :-) |
| 07:07.57 | K`zan | About a page for it under adept... |
| 07:08.17 | K`zan | First I guess gnome would be called in. |
| 07:08.40 | K`zan | Then TONS of goodies and a month to figure it all out :-P. |
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| 07:09.23 | Luria | grrr... no vim debs :-/ and my vpn is somehow down, so no way to tinker with xcompiling |
| 07:09.24 | K`zan | ol_schoola: Welcome back, Sir! |
| 07:09.42 | K`zan | Never(!!!) a dull moment with the n800 :) |
| 07:10.26 | Luria | is there a ready made usb otg cable that works on the n800? |
| 07:10.41 | ol_schoola | oy |
| 07:10.53 | ol_schoola | fun holidays |
| 07:10.59 | Luria | i would love to be able to connect to my sony ebook reader without swapping sd cards |
| 07:11.03 | ol_schoola | just got done with a five-seat lan party |
| 07:11.12 | K`zan | I have heard that the cable is unobtanoum/// |
| 07:11.18 | K`zan | Fun :) |
| 07:11.26 | Luria | joy |
| 07:11.47 | K`zan | I started to build one and the bloody soldering iron tip died. Gonna complain, it only lasted just over 15 years :-). |
| 07:11.48 | ol_schoola | link to one at UK amazon but i've come up with bupkis for the US |
| 07:12.34 | Luria | i think ive seen that one - little black thing iirc - so it doesnt need any special powering? |
| 07:12.41 | K`zan | Considering there were 5 pins on the outside and only 4 for the cable, it was going to be a job I can't do with the blowtorch :) |
| 07:12.51 | ol_schoola | if the device is power hungry, use a powered hub |
| 07:13.47 | ol_schoola | i use an Iroda butane rig, it was designed by a Canadian ham operator, tired of the electric ones failing at the top of his tower |
| 07:14.05 | ol_schoola | butane soldering iron, many interchangeable tips |
| 07:14.09 | K`zan | LOL, BYDT and yes it stinks at anything over 15' :) |
| 07:14.50 | K`zan | I have one of those, quite nice, but lousy for jumpering the connector end of the mini-a (or whatever it is). |
| 07:15.13 | ol_schoola | my bro gave me a sansa for xmas. not sure i'd use it much now that i carry the 800 |
| 07:15.14 | K`zan | Was going to jumper it dead at the back of the fingers. |
| 07:15.24 | K`zan | sandsa? |
| 07:15.45 | ol_schoola | little mp3 players, can load the rockbnox firmware |
| 07:15.47 | K`zan | Will when I get another decent iron. |
| 07:15.54 | K`zan | Ah |
| 07:16.21 | ol_schoola | i think i'll order a station. i'm tired of doing the touch-n-go with the Iroda on the little shit |
| 07:16.36 | K`zan | I think I'll wait on compiz until I get the n800 up to speed again. |
| 07:16.52 | ol_schoola | i had to reflow the mod chip on my other brother's Wii yesterday. grrrrr |
| 07:16.54 | K`zan | Yep, do so, worth the cost. You in the US |
| 07:17.02 | K`zan | ? |
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| 07:17.42 | ol_schoola | solder a little itty bitty smc pad, real hard with that brute of a tip |
| 07:18.03 | ol_schoola | yes US |
| 07:18.03 | K`zan | Until I can track down tips reasonable for the Weller, I'm getting one of these: http://www.wrighthobbies.net/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=29&products_id=84 |
| 07:18.13 | K`zan | Best price I have seen on that one. |
| 07:18.30 | K`zan | And extra tips all :-). |
| 07:18.45 | K`zan | Dunno where all the spare PTA tips I had went. |
| 07:19.17 | K`zan | If I had space I'd dig out the SMT rework station.... |
| 07:19.32 | ol_schoola | i'm not going to mess around, i've used to many weller's to use anything else again |
| 07:19.38 | ol_schoola | and i can write it off |
| 07:19.56 | K`zan | rebooting to see if that fixes the sudden problem with the .wma's brb |
| 07:20.25 | K`zan | Eddy is a good dude too, get my play robotics stuff and AVRs from him (well some of them). |
| 07:20.46 | K`zan | brb |
| 07:21.36 | madar | anyone having luck installing pidgin on an n810? |
| 07:21.39 | K`zan_n800 | Heh, forgot the n800 is right here :) |
| 07:22.00 | madar | says won't install but appears as installed |
| 07:22.29 | madar | but it doesn't work anyhow |
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| 07:26.17 | K`zan | Sigh, I'm so confuzed with m$ formats, is .wma audio only? |
| 07:26.30 | Vulcanis | Windows Media Audio |
| 07:26.34 | Vulcanis | Yes. |
| 07:26.49 | K`zan | ah - wma audo wmv video -) |
| 07:26.53 | K`zan | Thanks, duhhh :-). |
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| 08:54.53 | guardian | morning |
| 08:54.56 | timelyx | hi |
| 08:55.30 | guardian | ah great i can continue my installation |
| 08:55.35 | guardian | repository.maemo.org seems to be back |
| 08:57.38 | guardian | hmm definitely weird |
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| 08:57.43 | guardian | i have 2 pcs next to each other |
| 08:57.52 | guardian | from the first 1, i can download the 4.0 binaries sh script |
| 08:58.06 | guardian | from the second, i get a "the service is unavailable" error page |
| 08:58.12 | guardian | through the same internet connection |
| 08:59.40 | timelyx | heh |
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| 08:59.45 | timelyx | welcome to CDN land |
| 09:00.01 | guardian | what does CDN stand for ? |
| 09:00.04 | timelyx | (mis-configured CDN land) |
| 09:00.16 | timelyx | infobot CDN is content distribution network, e.g. akamai |
| 09:00.22 | infobot | okay, timelyx |
| 09:00.39 | guardian | k |
| 09:00.54 | guardian | anyways ... no time to handle bizarre things |
| 09:01.03 | guardian | i just relaunched the install script, crossing fingers |
| 09:02.57 | timelyx | giove: {for irc log} http://repository.maemo.org/pool/chinook/free/s/samba/samba-common_3.0.23c-1osso6_armel.deb |
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| 09:13.07 | ol_schoola_ | timelyx: ping |
| 09:16.41 | timelyx | pong |
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| 09:28.21 | timelyx | what's up? |
| 09:28.35 | ol_schoola_ | did i see that the official repos are no longer on their knees? |
| 09:28.53 | timelyx | guardian just complained about them a moment ago :) |
| 09:29.02 | ol_schoola_ | omfg |
| 09:30.06 | guardian | well |
| 09:30.08 | guardian | in fact |
| 09:30.15 | guardian | it seems they're working |
| 09:30.26 | guardian | however apt-get update did not work |
| 09:30.30 | guardian | although nsswitch.conf is fine |
| 09:30.36 | ol_schoola_ | this CANNOT be happening. i worked for an R&D branch of a Baby Bell during the years Scott Adams did and we did things to Bell Laboratories spec. Just proof of concept stuff. Never went to market. 100's of millions |
| 09:31.41 | ol_schoola_ | top notch projects. NVOD in '92 - Nebraska |
| 09:31.45 | timelyx | guardian: /etc/resolve.conf is typically 127.0.0.1 |
| 09:31.48 | timelyx | which doesn't work |
| 09:32.31 | timelyx | well, unless you run a named, which people generally don't do... :) |
| 09:33.09 | guardian | hmm |
| 09:33.14 | guardian | however, i never had to change that before |
| 09:33.27 | ol_schoola_ | how can they release the quantities of this thing to the public and let a foulup like this happen? |
| 09:34.13 | glass_ | it's not like it's the biggest fuckup by nokia |
| 09:34.14 | guardian | i have another box next to my laptop |
| 09:34.22 | guardian | with scratchbox & bora installed |
| 09:34.32 | guardian | and once logged in into scratchbox |
| 09:34.38 | timelyx | guardian: check, am i wrong? |
| 09:34.52 | timelyx | ol_schoola_: what quantities? |
| 09:34.53 | ol_schoola_ | <rant/off> timelyx: ya think i ought to reflash this thing after testing your temp repo and pulling in all those python deps from the Canola temp repo? |
| 09:34.53 | guardian | no you're not |
| 09:35.06 | guardian | but on my working setup, nameserver inside scratchbox is set to 127.0.0.1 |
| 09:35.24 | timelyx | guardian: maybe you have a local and friendly named running there? :) |
| 09:35.44 | guardian | no i don't |
| 09:35.47 | timelyx | ol_schoola_: no opinion :) |
| 09:35.51 | timelyx | guardian: *shrug* :) |
| 09:36.01 | guardian | wtf :) |
| 09:36.05 | ol_schoola_ | timelyx: you stufy law ;) |
| 09:36.07 | ol_schoola_ | ? |
| 09:36.11 | ol_schoola_ | study? |
| 09:36.24 | timelyx | no, my dad's a retired lawyer |
| 09:36.41 | ol_schoola_ | lmao... put a GF thru law school :) |
| 09:36.42 | timelyx | i studied cs/math :) |
| 09:36.56 | timelyx | ol_schoola_: that'd be expensive |
| 09:37.06 | ol_schoola_ | dad taught you well <vbg> |
| 09:37.07 | guardian | ps aux |grep named returns nothing |
| 09:37.38 | ol_schoola_ | she had big time grants and scholarships, wasn't TOO bad |
| 09:38.04 | timelyx | they payoff in the end (say +15 years) should be good :) |
| 09:38.23 | timelyx | course, if she's doing the sr partner track, you won't see much of her until then :| |
| 09:38.24 | ol_schoola_ | brainy (with a grat Big BLUE .... eyes) |
| 09:38.44 | ol_schoola_ | (great big blue .... |
| 09:39.20 | ol_schoola_ | nah, she and i split 10 years ago. she married another attorney |
| 09:39.22 | liia | should scratchbox be able to handle symbolic links? |
| 09:39.42 | timelyx | liia: eh? |
| 09:40.07 | liia | in the filesystem |
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| 09:40.51 | guardian | hmm |
| 09:40.54 | guardian | i guess i got it |
| 09:41.05 | guardian | when i started installing i was at home |
| 09:41.18 | guardian | i have /scratchox/etc/resolv.conf with nameserver 192.168.1.1 |
| 09:41.40 | guardian | now i'm at work, and it's not the same network |
| 09:42.06 | timelyx | sorry, some pieces of how exactly scratchbox operates are too complicated for my tiny little brain |
| 09:42.20 | guardian | it worries me |
| 09:42.31 | guardian | if scratchbox makes a copy at install time ... |
| 09:42.33 | guardian | then it just sucks |
| 09:42.41 | timelyx | seems like it probably does |
| 09:42.56 | timelyx | fwiw, the tiny little thing is a bugzilla reference, see https://bugs.maemo.org/buglist.cgi?x=x |
| 09:44.48 | liia | ah darn, of course (?) scratchbox does not see outside of its own filesystem |
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| 09:49.26 | guardian | timelyx: are they using this bugzilla ? |
| 09:49.37 | guardian | or do they keep having a private bugzilla as well ? |
| 09:50.32 | timelyx | depends on how you define they |
| 09:50.44 | timelyx | yes there's a private bugzilla, but no, you really don't want to look at it |
| 09:50.52 | timelyx | in fact, i think most people who can see it would rather not :) |
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| 09:53.27 | ol_schoola_ | timelyx: i just reset my hosts file and installed four apps from maemo. it didn't implode |
| 09:54.33 | guardian | liia: indeed, symlinking doesn't work |
| 09:55.29 | timelyx | liia: you'll want to use hardlinks for most such things |
| 09:55.47 | timelyx | symlinks for most things are resolved within the scratchbox |
| 09:56.14 | guardian | i tried to symlink /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf --> /etc/resolv.conf |
| 09:56.20 | guardian | but then it doesn't resolve anything |
| 09:56.48 | ol_schoola_ | trying to update individual pkgs. some working, others breaking |
| 09:56.59 | guardian | however, i'm still stuck because apt-get update fails: "gzip: stdin: not in gzip format" |
| 09:57.14 | guardian | so i bet the repos are still borked |
| 09:58.04 | timelyx | guardian: try a hardlink :) |
| 09:58.26 | timelyx | guardian: yeah, that'd mean you got one of the various unhappy pages instead of what you wanted |
| 09:58.32 | timelyx | come back to the safety of my repo :) |
| 09:58.58 | guardian | can you please remind me the url ? |
| 09:59.12 | ol_schoola_ | does the recent map update report "likely to harm the system"? or is my Frankentablet just about to keel over? |
| 09:59.51 | ol_schoola_ | timelyx: oh crap. your repo is still the got? |
| 10:00.09 | ol_schoola_ | i just updated a handful of apps using the official repos |
| 10:00.27 | ol_schoola_ | this is going to be the all-time Frankstein of internet tablets |
| 10:00.34 | ol_schoola_ | Frenkenstein |
| 10:01.19 | guardian | pfff enough of it |
| 10:01.27 | guardian | gonna switch to some other task |
| 10:01.43 | timelyx | infobot repository.maemo.org deb |
| 10:01.45 | infobot | repository.maemo.org deb is, like, unofficial, all warrantees void, http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/repository-maemo-org-dns-0.1.deb |
| 10:01.55 | ol_schoola_ | heh. i got a Sansa mp3 thingy for xmas. i need that like a need a ... |
| 10:02.07 | timelyx | ol_schoola_: if people have problems w/ the real one, then they are free to flip |
| 10:02.49 | timelyx | ol_schoola_: i don't think anyone from nokia would be able to answer anything before next year :) |
| 10:03.03 | timelyx | i don't know anyone who knew anything about the map update :) |
| 10:03.03 | guardian | that and midgard ... |
| 10:03.30 | ol_schoola_ | timelyx: heh ;) i'm still on the same flash as when i tested your repo-in-progress. and added the unofficial Canola repo which pulled in all those python deps. this thing should be flying apart at the seams |
| 10:03.47 | timelyx | heh |
| 10:06.19 | ol_schoola_ | there's now five apps (not includeding the failed update to Nokia's Map) which are from the official repos i hit just 20 minutes ago. i'll redirect r.p.o to your site again and mix it up a little more. let's find out what kind of abuse pkg mgmt in 08 can really handle |
| 10:06.56 | ol_schoola_ | i'm surprised. i thought it would have lost it's marbles by now. |
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| 10:30.49 | Khertan_VM | Hi |
| 10:32.07 | Khertan_VM | Someone can help me on gcc optimized option for a compilation for a n800 ? |
| 10:43.43 | pupnik_ | ask the question |
| 10:43.47 | pupnik_ | hi unique311 |
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| 11:31.09 | timelyx | most of the debian control files in garage are bad |
| 11:31.17 | timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/n770demos/debian/control#10 |
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| 11:31.57 | timelyx | has anyone here used mabugz? |
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| 11:36.06 | |tbb| | anyone knows where i can define hardware keys for microb. |
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| 11:42.35 | timelyx | |tbb|: what do you mean? |
| 11:42.49 | timelyx | like http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/microb-pageupdown-0.1.deb ? |
| 11:44.11 | timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/maemo-xkb-plugi/trunk/debian/control#10 |
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| 11:47.51 | timelyx | can someone explain DEBIAN/copyright? |
| 11:56.57 | |tbb| | timelyx: i mean scrolling down with d-pad and some others. what i need also is changing shortcuts like ctrl + L to open another location, because typing ctrl + L is very hard on the built in hardwarekeyboard on n800 |
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| 12:25.08 | Sikor-n800 | hi, anyone knows how to open the big touchpad-tastatur by default? i have to press the select button to open it currently |
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| 12:27.27 | Sikor-n800 | talking about os2008 here |
| 12:28.41 | |tbb| | all i know, u can open it while u tab the middle of the dpad after u set this option under control panel |
| 12:31.21 | |tbb| | how to enter the setting menu for itablet |
| 12:34.11 | Sikor-n800 | yup thats what im doing right now |
| 12:35.02 | Sikor-n800 | however it pidgin at least it sometimes opens with the big keyboard |
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| 12:37.42 | ccooke | anyone know how to add more fonts to the os2008 xterm? |
| 12:37.57 | pupnik_ | http://capnhack.com/pandora/pandora5.jpg a nice render of a game-ready N810 style device |
| 12:38.19 | ccooke | the monospace one isn't dense enough to work well with a dark background |
| 12:38.27 | |tbb| | its because you have enter the typing area with your finger i guess |
| 12:38.38 | pupnik_ | you talkin bout the courier one ccooke ? |
| 12:38.39 | ccooke | and Sans isn't monospace :-) |
| 12:39.19 | pupnik_ | Bitstream Vera Sans Mono Roman |
| 12:39.36 | pupnik_ | is what i have here - way better than the thin courier on old xterm |
| 12:39.54 | |tbb| | pupnik what is that pandora thing |
| 12:40.03 | pupnik_ | it's just a design idea |
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| 12:40.20 | pupnik_ | unfortunately the slider design is patented so they will use a clamshell design |
| 12:40.25 | ccooke | pupnik_: how do you add it? you only get three choices in the settings |
| 12:41.15 | pupnik_ | this font is default in osso-xterm 0.13.mh24 |
| 12:42.35 | ccooke | I have 0.14.mh3 |
| 12:43.11 | pupnik_ | strange - i have to go now but you should be able to choose font in preferences |
| 12:43.35 | ccooke | yes. there are only three choices though |
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| 12:43.53 | ccooke | and the only monospace font isn't any good |
| 12:44.06 | ccooke | I'm using Sans atm |
| 12:44.24 | Dike | timeless you here? |
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| 12:44.42 | ccooke | which cuts off some parts of the glyphs :-) |
| 12:44.51 | |tbb| | i wonder why designers wont add buttons on the backside of a device, if you hold the device in your hand some fingers allready there |
| 12:45.34 | Dike | someone got problme downloading skype on n810? |
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| 12:47.16 | timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/xoo-tablets/trunk/ |
| 12:47.21 | timelyx | hi Dike |
| 12:47.25 | Dike | hey |
| 12:47.32 | Dike | that link is for me? |
| 12:47.51 | timelyx | |tbb|: the pagedown deb does the former |
| 12:47.55 | timelyx | the latter is owned by ui junk |
| 12:48.01 | timelyx | i'm not going to look |
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| 12:48.23 | timelyx | no |
| 12:48.27 | timelyx | just a random complaint |
| 12:48.32 | timelyx | " No long description is available yet" |
| 12:48.40 | Dike | timelyx do you know if there are problem downloading skype on n810? |
| 12:49.04 | timelyx | hahlo managed to |
| 12:49.23 | timelyx | actually, looks like hahlo might have grabbed skype from skype.com ?? |
| 12:49.41 | Dike | the download will start |
| 12:49.48 | |tbb| | pagedown deb? |
| 12:49.53 | Dike | and at the end he stop with an error :/ |
| 12:50.13 | timelyx | |tbb|: http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/microb-pageupdown-0.1.deb |
| 12:50.16 | Dike | like "dowload not done" |
| 12:50.30 | timelyx | i suppose i could try installing skype |
| 12:50.56 | Dike | if you can |
| 12:51.02 | Dike | :P |
| 12:51.05 | Dike | would be nice |
| 12:51.17 | Dike | i was downloading 4.49 mb |
| 12:51.22 | Dike | and at the end |
| 12:51.28 | Dike | i got an error :/ |
| 12:54.25 | |tbb| | timelyx: have u written the page down patch |
| 12:56.19 | |tbb| | i know it was possible to change it by any conf file before, but for what iam looking for is reassing hardware keys or change shortcuts for microb |
| 12:58.48 | timelyx | |tbb|: kinda, someone did the research |
| 12:59.11 | timelyx | |tbb|: look at how it changes bindings |
| 12:59.18 | timelyx | that's how you'd change any gecko binding |
| 12:59.24 | timelyx | but ctrl-l isn't a gecko binding |
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| 13:00.16 | Dike | timelyx have you tryed it? |
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| 13:03.09 | |tbb| | haven't found something study the irc logs |
| 13:03.29 | timelyx | ? |
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| 13:04.32 | Dike | time have tryed to install skype? |
| 13:06.02 | Dike | yes |
| 13:06.08 | Dike | i'm on 2008 |
| 13:06.14 | |tbb| | timeless said yesterday someone did allready a keybinding gui |
| 13:06.23 | Dike | there is also the link preinstalled on my n810 |
| 13:06.27 | |tbb| | rebinding ! |
| 13:06.48 | timelyx | Dike: i'm not running 2008 official |
| 13:06.53 | timelyx | i'm running a 2008 pre |
| 13:06.59 | timelyx | skype demands official :( |
| 13:07.17 | Dike | so you can't try to install it? |
| 13:07.47 | timelyx | packages complain about bad versions :) |
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| 13:07.56 | Dike | roger |
| 13:08.00 | Dike | another question |
| 13:08.10 | Dike | do you know where is aviable |
| 13:08.17 | Dike | samba-common? |
| 13:08.21 | Dike | i miss that file |
| 13:08.28 | timelyx | |tbb|: fwiw... |
| 13:08.36 | Dike | but i have added maemo bora catalogue |
| 13:08.42 | timelyx | the bluetooth keyboard shortcuts tab responds to hardware keyboard |
| 13:08.48 | timelyx | so you can map to some things :) |
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| 13:10.35 | Dike | there is any aviable link to download it? |
| 13:10.44 | Dike | still needing it to install samba :P |
| 13:11.13 | |tbb| | whoooo whooo |
| 13:11.15 | timelyx | sadly, the bindings don't actually seem to work |
| 13:11.46 | |tbb| | thx |
| 13:11.46 | timelyx | anyway, since it seems to go halfway |
| 13:11.46 | timelyx | it should probably work |
| 13:11.47 | timelyx | if you only get halfway, file a bug :) |
| 13:12.52 | timelyx | oh! |
| 13:13.43 | |tbb| | i wonder setting gps device to blutooth without mac on maemo mapper work with the internal device, also the blutooth keyboard shortcuts with internal |
| 13:15.38 | timelyx | pupnik: why'd ypu find that? |
| 13:17.03 | timelyx | |tbb|: i might be confusing something else |
| 13:17.11 | timelyx | i know i saw /something/ that listed keymappings |
| 13:18.26 | timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/maemocjk/trunk/ttf-kochi-1.0.20030809-maemo/ |
| 13:19.47 | |tbb| | btw, some keystrokes allready reserved for system, iwonder where i can find documention about that. what ctrl+d does ?? |
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| 13:20.09 | pupnik | timelyx: just bummed out at how producing products is such a patent minefield |
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| 13:20.58 | pupnik | it's a net loss for society imo. only big players can produce, and too much of the cost of the products ends up being spent in the legal arena |
| 13:21.47 | pupnik | but sorry if that's leading into offtopicness |
| 13:22.54 | timelyx | http://mxr.maemo.org/garage/source/maemocjk/trunk/scim-pinyin-0.5.91-maemo/ |
| 13:23.12 | timelyx | interesting that claims it can eat ctrl-d |
| 13:23.36 | timelyx | oh right |
| 13:23.39 | timelyx | i have 2 hours to go shopping |
| 13:25.30 | ccooke | hmm. how can you install bash on os2008? |
| 13:26.15 | |tbb| | fn+backspace for switching to homescreen rocks, now we should find out where the conffile for that keystrokes are stored |
| 13:26.48 | timelyx | |tbb|: so that thing worked? |
| 13:27.07 | |tbb| | yes |
| 13:27.32 | |tbb| | but most keystrokes r reserved for system it says |
| 13:28.07 | timelyx | i don't want to know how that works |
| 13:30.18 | |tbb| | not want to know what? |
| 13:33.56 | |tbb| | fn+enter to fullscreen toggle also rocks. btw is there a gconf gui editor available for os w008 |
| 13:35.55 | Cptnodegard | has anyone here successfully made a USB OTG cable? |
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| 13:41.19 | alterego | Cptnodegard, depends what you mean, do you mean a cable that will automatically switch the N8X0 devices into host mode? |
| 13:41.33 | alterego | Or just a cable that will work when the device is switched to host mode. |
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| 13:42.04 | Cptnodegard | auto cable |
| 13:42.21 | alterego | Then no, I have not made one. |
| 13:42.24 | Cptnodegard | found a guide, but it lacks both instruction and pics to show what cables go where |
| 13:42.31 | alterego | Though it's a pretty simple design. |
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| 13:44.34 | Cptnodegard | all usb cables have the same color codes? |
| 13:44.42 | alterego | They should do. |
| 13:45.02 | alterego | You should really check out the specs of the connectors and the OTG host cable design .. |
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| 13:48.12 | Khertan | Hi ! |
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| 13:55.22 | Dike | know where i can download samba-common? |
| 13:56.38 | tontsa_ | dike, http://gronmayer.com/it , choose the OS you want, then type samba into search box and press Search |
| 13:57.00 | Dike | yes i added the catalogue that sould contain it |
| 13:57.05 | Dike | but its missing ... |
| 13:57.39 | Dike | i can't install samba because samba-common is missing, but i can chek it from gronmayer.com/it |
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| 13:57.58 | Dike | there are 3 package with sambacommon inside.. |
| 13:58.06 | Dike | but i still missing it :/ |
| 13:59.55 | Sikor-n800 | where can i find python2.5-gtk2? |
| 14:00.16 | Dike | do you know why tontsa_ ? |
| 14:00.56 | tontsa_ | no idea |
| 14:01.18 | Dike | are you using n810? |
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| 14:34.56 | Veggen | hmmf. the app that made power-saving behave differently when you're on AC - does it work on os2008? And what was it called/where to find it? |
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| 14:35.55 | sikor_sxe | when i want to run python program, i get the error: ImportError No module named gtk |
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| 14:36.09 | sikor_sxe | what could be the problem? |
| 14:36.27 | sikor_sxe | in the repositories there does not seem to be a python-gtk package |
| 14:37.01 | derf | I thought OS 2008 had an option not to dim/blank the screen on AC. |
| 14:37.32 | |tbb| | Veggen: i guess it was acmonitor |
| 14:37.32 | lmoura | sikor_sxe, are you running python or python2.5? |
| 14:37.48 | lmoura | and the package is named python2.5-gtk2 |
| 14:37.49 | Veggen | I have a python2.5-gtk2-package |
| 14:37.57 | Veggen | cd /var/cache/apt/ |
| 14:37.57 | Veggen | ls |
| 14:37.58 | |tbb| | the other was more dimming option |
| 14:38.19 | Veggen | (oops. that was supposed to go in the ssh-session to my n800 ;) |
| 14:38.20 | sikor_sxe | python2.5 |
| 14:38.57 | Veggen | have you enabled the extras repository? |
| 14:39.57 | sikor_sxe | it's broken right now, isn't it? |
| 14:40.36 | sikor_sxe | and in /var/cache/apt there is archives pkgcache.bin & srcpkgcache.bin |
| 14:41.15 | sikor_sxe | i used the temporary repository from internettablettalk |
| 14:41.27 | Veggen | It's /var/lib/apt/lists |
| 14:43.12 | sikor_sxe | there is quite a lot in there |
| 14:44.26 | Veggen | ok, it's not really meant for needing to look in, but sometimes it's useful to grep those files. |
| 14:45.14 | sikor_sxe | from repo did you get your python2.5-gtk2 pkg? |
| 14:45.18 | sikor_sxe | from what repo |
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| 14:45.39 | sikor_sxe | (youre using os2008 i assume) |
| 14:45.48 | Veggen | I *think* it was the extras-repository (and yes, os2008) |
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| 14:46.19 | sikor_sxe | the extras repository works for you? |
| 14:46.32 | Veggen | did at least at the time :) |
| 14:47.54 | sikor_sxe | works now aswell |
| 14:48.03 | sikor_sxe | but still no python-gtk available for selection |
| 14:49.16 | Veggen | python2.5-gtk2 ? |
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| 14:50.12 | sikor_sxe | jep |
| 14:50.21 | sikor_sxe | must be some other repository |
| 14:52.41 | Veggen | http://www.gronmayer.com/it/index.php?lang=en&system=maemo4%0A is a good site. |
| 14:52.52 | Veggen | list of repositories. |
| 14:53.10 | lmoura | sikor_sxe, did you try the pymaemo .install files? |
| 14:56.30 | sikor_sxe | i can't |
| 14:56.35 | sikor_sxe | the installation fire is corrupt |
| 14:56.54 | lmoura | sikor_sxe, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2620 |
| 14:57.15 | lmoura | there's a workaround there about changing from repository.maemo.org to stage.maemo.org |
| 14:57.44 | lmoura | at least in the sdk it worked |
| 14:57.55 | doc|humbug | I'm getting a number of corrupt install files, ukmp, canola2 |
| 14:58.41 | sikor_sxe | lmoura: i did that |
| 14:58.56 | sikor_sxe | and pymaemo is installed with the correct version |
| 14:59.04 | sikor_sxe | i miss python2.5-gtk however |
| 15:00.25 | Khertan | pffff my repository still doesn't work ... grrr |
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| 15:00.38 | |tbb| | veggen got it? |
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| 15:02.22 | FMZ | Anyone from the Canola team here today? |
| 15:03.30 | sikor_sxe | well, no idea why python-gtk2 doesn't show up |
| 15:04.42 | sikor_sxe | when i browse the repo manually its there |
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| 15:07.45 | Veggen | wee. The usb host mode on my n800 works, in os2008. |
| 15:08.54 | shackan | Veggen: with the stock kernel? |
| 15:09.03 | Veggen | yup. |
| 15:09.08 | shackan | wow |
| 15:09.09 | sikor_sxe | anyone got an idea why the pkgs in the stage. repository do not show in the installation manager? |
| 15:09.19 | shackan | Veggen: what device did you try? |
| 15:09.34 | Veggen | shackan: A usb-disk which has power itself. |
| 15:09.43 | shackan | sweet |
| 15:09.47 | Veggen | No power injection-stuff needed. |
| 15:10.01 | shackan | of course it didn't automount tough, right? :) |
| 15:10.19 | Veggen | well. It did automount after I switched to hostmode. |
| 15:11.24 | Veggen | but as far as I know, there's not a userfriendly app to do that, yet. |
| 15:12.26 | Veggen | Only thing needed is echo host > /sys/devices/platform/musb_hdrc/mode |
| 15:12.50 | Veggen | (that switches it, and then it automagically was mounted) |
| 15:15.03 | Veggen | now, let's push some luck and see if my D200 digital camera works without power. (else, I'm gonna have to dig for my usb hub with power) |
| 15:15.13 | |tbb| | veggen you havent needed a modified usb cable? |
| 15:16.42 | doc|humbug | stage is working, and canola's nice :) |
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| 15:18.43 | Veggen | tbb: only converters, which I picked up once on a shop which sells normal cables/electronics stuff etc. |
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| 15:19.54 | Veggen | nuts. need to dig into the messy boxes with gadgets for my powered usb hub. |
| 15:20.21 | deejoe | so, I find osso-xterm for OS2007, but not for OS2008 |
| 15:20.39 | |tbb| | have 2 research for some cable like that |
| 15:20.48 | tontsa_ | osso-xterm is included in OS2008 |
| 15:21.32 | deejoe | tontsa_: thanks. |
| 15:21.53 | deejoe | I'm not going to flash unless I find that stuff I use regularly is available. That's one of them. |
| 15:23.55 | ph|ber | j apache |
| 15:23.58 | ph|ber | er |
| 15:28.13 | Veggen | hmm. |
| 15:28.19 | Veggen | It worked with a powered hub. |
| 15:29.58 | pupnik | i bet someone could sell a decent groovebox / software synth program for the tablets |
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| 15:34.32 | |tbb| | veggen:http://maemo.org/downloads/product/raw/OS2007/moredimmingoptions/?get_installfile |
| 15:36.50 | |tbb| | but acmonitor http://www.guardiani.us/index.php/N800_custom_packages#acmonitor doesnt work on os2008 for me |
| 15:37.41 | Veggen | tbb: the options to not have the network sleep is actually what's most useful for me. |
| 15:38.07 | Veggen | tbb: Does that package work on os2008? |
| 15:38.20 | |tbb| | acmonitor not |
| 15:39.10 | |tbb| | what r the network sleep options |
| 15:40.56 | Veggen | acmonitor had an option to ping an external site regularly to make the network not sleep. |
| 15:41.30 | Veggen | normally, the network will sleep, and only wake up periodically and/or when the n800 needed to access something in the world. |
| 15:42.02 | sp3000 | it's have to ping pretty frequently to stop sleeping, heh |
| 15:42.06 | sp3000 | it'd even |
| 15:42.24 | Veggen | mm. |
| 15:42.53 | sp3000 | now silly access points that think you've gone away if you don't need anything for a few minutes, on the other hand... |
| 15:43.24 | Veggen | right now, I have a ping running on it to be able to ssh into it (I do sometimes prefer that to using the device itself, when playing with lower-level stuff on it ;) |
| 15:45.13 | Veggen | I use a box with openbsd 3.9 with a good old prism2 802.11b in it as an access-point....(it's also my firewall, so I have wireless on it's own zone on the firewall. messes up the media discovery things, though *sigh* |
| 15:45.16 | sp3000 | yeah, I get that from the keepalives -o BatchMode=yes does on my sshfs mounts |
| 15:45.46 | sp3000 | (the dear ap, don't disassociate me after 5mins silent thing that is) |
| 15:46.31 | sp3000 | I wonder why the ap doesn't ask before disassociating |
| 15:46.42 | sp3000 | I guess it could be a fear of waking things up |
| 15:46.54 | deejoe | so, is osso-browser still opera-based? |
| 15:47.06 | deejoe | (in 2008?) |
| 15:47.12 | shackan | no! |
| 15:47.13 | sp3000 | OS2008 doesn't come with opera |
| 15:47.25 | deejoe | moz, or what? |
| 15:48.40 | tontsa_ | it's mozilla's new microB |
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| 15:49.17 | deejoe | ah |
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| 15:54.53 | *** topic/#maemo is development platform for Nokia Internet Tablets | http://freedesktop.org/Software/sbox2/Maemo | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | http://www.gronmayer.com/it | http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/chinook | os2008 download slowness being worked on | repository.maemo.org debs are broken |
| 15:56.45 | |tbb| | is it possible to make the toolbar of xterm bigger than now |
| 15:59.34 | timeless | sp3000: so, i'm writing a repository validator |
| 15:59.39 | timeless | and some of my files are failing |
| 16:00.02 | timeless | ! repository.maemo.org/extras pool/chinook/free/p/pidgin-extprefs/pidgin-extprefs_0.7-0nix2_armel.deb 12380 != 12382 |
| 16:01.07 | ph|ber | what is up with the freaking repos |
| 16:01.16 | timeless | infobot repository.maemo.org deb |
| 16:01.17 | infobot | hmm... repository.maemo.org deb is unofficial, all warrantees void, http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/repository-maemo-org-dns-0.1.deb |
| 16:01.26 | timeless | ph|ber: install that, it should handle most things |
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| 16:03.52 | timeless | hrm |
| 16:03.54 | timeless | that's odd |
| 16:04.00 | timeless | the Packages file itself seems corrupt here |
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| 16:22.01 | Khertan | timeless> can you write a simple repository creator, where you can simply add a .deb that you can upload by simple web page ? :) |
| 16:24.35 | skibur | Is nicotine corrupted? for os2008? |
| 16:25.02 | skibur | Can't install it |
| 16:26.04 | Khertan | skibur > all maemo repository are corrupted ... |
| 16:27.36 | skibur | o ok |
| 16:27.41 | FMZ | skibur: You don't want that anyway. You'll never be able to stop using it without hypnosis or shock therapy. |
| 16:28.10 | skibur | :) |
| 16:29.02 | timeless | khertan: i probably could |
| 16:29.11 | timeless | i'd rather not |
| 16:29.22 | timeless | skibur: the nicotine i have was flagged as bad |
| 16:29.46 | timeless | i'm grabbing two sets of files, i'll check it again when this finishes |
| 16:29.51 | sp3000 | how to not convince me: Summary: Add [...] options. Comment 0: [...] it would be nice to have some options [...] |
| 16:30.04 | skibur | bad app? or bad deb? |
| 16:30.12 | timeless | i only deal in debs |
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| 16:31.17 | timeless | sp3000: i don't think nicotine is worse than a fiasco |
| 16:31.31 | Khertan | timeless > <timeless> i'd rather not ? " <<<< why not ? |
| 16:31.43 | timeless | khertan: i'd be responsible for it |
| 16:31.54 | timeless | to do it properly, you need some way to (a) disclaim liability |
| 16:31.58 | timeless | and (b) have people managing it |
| 16:32.08 | Khertan | timeless > arf yes ... right :) |
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| 16:32.23 | Khertan | but i ll like to have this to manage my own repos :) |
| 16:32.41 | Khertan | (which is break at this time) |
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| 16:36.08 | crevetor | hi guys, why are the debs broken ? |
| 16:36.16 | timeless | hrm, your files are in dists/ not pool? |
| 16:36.17 | timeless | odd |
| 16:36.34 | sp3000 | yeah, pool is optional |
| 16:36.37 | timeless | crevetor: eh |
| 16:37.05 | Khertan | timeless > i know ... but as i found .deb / repository a good thing for user .... and i like apt-get tools |
| 16:37.21 | Khertan | i think that tool to create repository sucks a lot ! |
| 16:37.39 | Khertan | and documentation isn't really usefull |
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| 16:38.28 | Khertan | samethings for uploading .deb to a repository |
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| 16:39.01 | crevetor | timeless: eh ? nobody has the answer ? |
| 16:39.17 | Khertan | crevetor > /topic |
| 16:39.21 | timeless | infobot repository.maemo.org deb |
| 16:39.22 | infobot | rumour has it, repository.maemo.org deb is unofficial, all warrantees void, http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/repository-maemo-org-dns-0.1.deb |
| 16:39.37 | timeless | crevetor: you're free to try that |
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| 16:39.57 | skibur | anybody running abiword on os2008? |
| 16:40.44 | Khertan | VICTIM=/etc/hosts |
| 16:40.49 | Khertan | like it ... :) |
| 16:40.52 | FMZ | Is there any kind of hook between the browser and VoIP software to allow you to click a link and it automatically dials the number? |
| 16:41.03 | timeless | fmz: callto:foopy |
| 16:41.21 | crevetor | timeless: what is it ? |
| 16:41.28 | FMZ | timeless: I don't have his number... badump *psh* |
| 16:41.43 | Khertan | .... hum .... |
| 16:41.44 | Khertan | bye |
| 16:41.45 | timeless | fmz: i have no idea what callto takes, try callto:username |
| 16:42.04 | FMZ | timeless: so if I did something along the lines of: <A HREF="callto:8882224685">Foopy</A> it should work? |
| 16:42.11 | blackd0t | callto is registered by Skype I believe |
| 16:42.11 | FMZ | timeless: Cool, thanks man |
| 16:42.20 | timeless | all i know is that callto will launch /something/ |
| 16:42.44 | FMZ | lol |
| 16:42.47 | blackd0t | http://www.makeyougohmm.com/20030913/266/ - take a look here |
| 16:43.10 | blackd0t | <a href="callto://skypename/">blahblah</a> |
| 16:44.10 | Solarion | poor quim |
| 16:44.32 | crevetor | timeless: the package url you gave is it a deb that updates /etc/host so that repository.maemo.org points to your repo ? |
| 16:44.43 | FMZ | Hmm... wonder if it only supports Skype-to-Skype calls. |
| 16:44.50 | timeless | yes |
| 16:45.43 | crevetor | timeless: ok, i'll just add it to my repose then and desactivate the maemo repo |
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| 16:45.51 | crevetor | i *need* to try out canola2 |
| 16:45.54 | timeless | err, no |
| 16:46.09 | timeless | don't deactivate the official repo |
| 16:46.18 | blackd0t | I need to find ettercap port for n800 somehow :/ |
| 16:46.19 | timeless | mine only answers to the same hostname as the official |
| 16:46.20 | Solarion | any word on n810 codes going live? |
| 16:46.30 | crevetor | timeless: why is that ? |
| 16:46.33 | timeless | solarion: it's christmas holiday |
| 16:46.44 | timeless | crevetor: the goal is to transparently switch servers |
| 16:46.49 | Solarion | timeless: so not for a while yet? |
| 16:46.59 | timeless | application manager shouldn't know that anything happened |
| 16:47.00 | crevetor | timeless: oh ok |
| 16:47.14 | crevetor | i'll install your deb then |
| 16:47.33 | timeless | you can remove the deb at any time, and nothing bad should happen |
| 16:47.56 | crevetor | ok |
| 16:47.56 | timeless | ok, looks like i don't have nicotine, i'll grab it shortly |
| 16:48.02 | timeless | oh, this is bora :) |
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| 16:49.06 | zoran | someone tried "repostory.maemo.org" as list address? |
| 16:51.03 | timeless | zoran: doing that is considered risky |
| 16:51.09 | timeless | it might break upgrades |
| 16:51.20 | timeless | (probably will, although testing it requires too much work) |
| 16:51.22 | zoran | k |
| 16:53.21 | zoran | there wqas a thread on itt |
| 16:53.21 | zoran | hm |
| 16:53.21 | zoran | i avoid carotts |
| 16:53.21 | sp3000 | they're out to get you? |
| 16:53.21 | zoran | :) |
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| 16:53.28 | timeless | sp3000: so, can you think of why repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/free/p/pidgin-extprefs/pidgin-extprefs_0.7-0nix2_armel.deb would have the wrong Size: in Packages ? |
| 16:53.35 | timeless | ! repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/free/p/pidgin-extprefs/pidgin-extprefs_0.7-0nix2_armel.deb 12380 != 12382 |
| 16:53.56 | timeless | repository gave me 12382, but the file says 12380 :( |
| 16:54.06 | zoran | what is small diff between friends? |
| 16:54.07 | sp3000 | hmm, yeah, that seems to work |
| 16:54.24 | crevetor | timeless: multiple versions with the same version number ? |
| 16:54.35 | zoran | unbelievable |
| 16:54.57 | timeless | crevetor: i'd be moderately annoyed if any real/official place allowed that |
| 16:55.00 | sp3000 | that is, callto:timeless@g did something that looks like a call to something that has the expected avatar on it |
| 16:55.29 | crevetor | timeless: sure, but who knows (i don't) |
| 16:55.40 | timeless | i could call nix |
| 16:55.56 | ph|ber | how do i put a lowercase when the n810 is putting an uppercase? |
| 16:55.56 | crevetor | who manages the repositories at maemo.org ? |
| 16:56.10 | crevetor | ph|ber: push the maj key once |
| 16:56.14 | timeless | ph|ber: pressing shift once and then the letter doesn't work? |
| 16:56.32 | timeless | sp300: actually |
| 16:56.37 | sp3000 | timeless: hum, if it were out of date it should have a different version I suppose |
| 16:56.40 | blackd0t | What irc client do you use on n800? |
| 16:56.41 | timeless | ! repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/bora/free/p/pidgin-extprefs/pidgin-extprefs_0.7-0nix2_armel.deb 12378 != 12382 |
| 16:56.58 | timeless | it looks like nix has sent at least 2 files that are unhappy |
| 16:57.11 | timeless | hrm |
| 16:57.20 | timeless | i wonder if it's confusing file 3 w/ files 1 and 2 |
| 16:58.12 | crevetor | cause i wondered at one point if my device was doing something wrong |
| 16:59.42 | zoran | timeless, maybe some back end script chooses different sources for the file of the same name |
| 16:59.56 | zoran | lke rr |
| 17:00.56 | timeless | sp3000: http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/repository-check.txt |
| 17:01.13 | timeless | http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/repository-check.input |
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| 17:02.37 | ph|ber | anyone have vncviewer for the 810 out yet? |
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| 17:07.30 | zoran | hm repository resolves at 213.254.238.137; "repostory" resolves to 61.61.85.32 |
| 17:07.51 | timeless | repository is akamai, it'll resolve to something "near" you |
| 17:08.04 | timeless | *.maemo.org that isn't something special is stage.maemo.org |
| 17:08.13 | zoran | yes, see it now |
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| 17:16.47 | skibur | hello |
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| 17:31.56 | svolpe | I went to tweak my sources list only to find out that the applications manager actually puts the repository information in "/etc/hildon-applications/catalogues" and not "/etc/apt/sources.list" why has maemo deviated from using sources.list, what is the advantage? |
| 17:32.44 | timeless | advantages |
| 17:32.57 | timeless | it's 100% xml buzzword compliant |
| 17:33.22 | timeless | parsing it is as complicated as parsing xml |
| 17:33.37 | timeless | instead of as simple as renaming files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
| 17:33.54 | timeless | and it isn't really maemo that deviated |
| 17:34.18 | svolpe | timeless, Nokia then. |
| 17:35.57 | timeless | svolpe: who wouldn't want to be buzzword compliant? :) |
| 17:36.04 | derf | I wouldn't. |
| 17:36.31 | svolpe | svolpe, It just seemed like a bad idea, in the past when certain distros diviated from standard config files it always seemed to lead to quite a bit of headache and incompatibility. However I hate to be judgemental :-) |
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| 17:39.14 | timeless | sources.list is still used :) it's just write only :) |
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| 17:39.44 | kpel | hi all |
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| 17:54.57 | hahlo | that lastfm client works well |
| 17:55.35 | skibur | is it usefull? |
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| 17:59.43 | K`zan_n800 | Morning all. |
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| 18:01.27 | hahlo | yes if listen lastfm |
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| 18:04.16 | hahlo | some reason gpg didn't work as user |
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| 18:09.26 | timeless | sp3000: is that in a bug? :) |
| 18:09.34 | timeless | sp3000: i think i figured out one of these bugs |
| 18:09.43 | timeless | Filename: pool/chinook/free/p/pidgin/pidgin-dbg_2.3.1-0nix0_i386.deb |
| 18:09.43 | timeless | Size: 892 |
| 18:09.48 | timeless | Filename: pool/chinook/free/p/pidgin/pidgin-dbg_2.3.1-0nix1_i386.deb |
| 18:09.48 | timeless | Size: 875542 |
| 18:10.22 | sp3000 | o_O |
| 18:11.02 | sp3000 | but that's an interesting change |
| 18:11.11 | timeless | -rw-rw-r-- 1 timeless pg922508 884910 2007-12-13 15:30 repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/free/p/pidgin/pidgin-dbg_2.3.1-0nix0_armel.deb |
| 18:11.12 | timeless | -rw-rw-r-- 1 timeless pg922508 875544 2007-12-14 16:30 repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/free/p/pidgin/pidgin-dbg_2.3.1-0nix0_i386.deb |
| 18:11.12 | timeless | -rw-rw-r-- 1 timeless pg922508 884926 2007-12-15 16:30 repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/free/p/pidgin/pidgin-dbg_2.3.1-0nix1_armel.deb |
| 18:11.12 | timeless | -rw-rw-r-- 1 timeless pg922508 875542 2007-12-15 16:30 repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/chinook/free/p/pidgin/pidgin-dbg_2.3.1-0nix1_i386.deb |
| 18:11.12 | sp3000 | rather like a b vs kB |
| 18:11.19 | sp3000 | er, B vs kB even |
| 18:13.00 | sp3000 | so not quite |
| 18:13.04 | timeless | nope :( |
| 18:15.33 | timeless | anyway, since it isn't the latest version of the file, i suppose i don't care much |
| 18:15.38 | timeless | but .. |
| 18:18.49 | GNUton | Hi |
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| 18:33.01 | hahlo | Is irssi or bitlbee ported maemo? |
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| 18:40.44 | doc|humbug | grrrr, mplayer+maemo-- |
| 18:41.24 | timeless | hahlo: https://garage.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/irsii-commits |
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| 18:41.57 | hahlo | good |
| 18:42.32 | hahlo | then one can do irc with it |
| 18:42.38 | blackd0t | Any news on when the maemo repository will be fine? I can't install maemo sdk because 'apt-get update' fails telling me there is a network problem |
| 18:45.33 | timeless | infobot repository.maemo.org deb |
| 18:45.34 | infobot | well, repository.maemo.org deb is unofficial, all warrantees void, http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/repository-maemo-org-dns-0.1.deb |
| 18:45.44 | timeless | blackd0t: you should be able to install that deb and be happy |
| 18:46.24 | blackd0t | Ahh so this is the one changing the dns? |
| 18:46.29 | timeless | yes |
| 18:46.34 | blackd0t | Thanks I'll try that |
| 18:46.50 | timeless | you've heard of this somewhere? |
| 18:47.20 | blackd0t | Yeah, I've been on this channel ~2 hours ago, but then I had no idea what you were talking about ;) |
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| 18:47.26 | blackd0t | Now it all makes sense |
| 18:50.38 | dskippy | timeless, Should we just dpkg -i that .deb file than rerun the the SDK install script with the "don't try to download" option? |
| 18:51.14 | timeless | dskippy: the nokia binaries script is not in my repository |
| 18:51.19 | timeless | because i believe i can't legally have it |
| 18:51.30 | timeless | so make sure you already have that :) |
| 18:52.00 | doc|humbug | hmm, so the mplayer.garage.maemo.org install script doesn't work and the deb on the berlios site doesn't install. Anyone got an alternative to install mplayer? |
| 18:52.04 | dskippy | timeless, everytime I've tried to install that I get an error in my script anyway. |
| 18:52.10 | dskippy | So I've been skipping it. |
| 18:52.13 | dskippy | What do I need it for? |
| 18:52.33 | timeless | i've never setup the nokia bits |
| 18:52.40 | dskippy | timeless, is python2.5 in your repository by any chance? |
| 18:53.01 | doc|humbug | s/berlios/garage |
| 18:53.09 | timeless | it should be in extras for chinook |
| 18:53.19 | dskippy | Hmm, this script is still doing some apt-get'ing. |
| 18:54.04 | timeless | dskippy: i need to find someone who can write an evil proxy script |
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| 18:56.03 | pupnik770 | happy $day |
| 18:57.16 | doc|humbug | anyone? |
| 18:57.40 | dskippy | You want to try proxying so that the repository points elsewhere or something? |
| 18:57.55 | timeless | the installer supports a proxy |
| 18:58.06 | blackd0t | timeless: The dns fix works like a charm so far, thanks again |
| 18:58.16 | timeless | i'd like to be able to have a proxy usually picks my server, but for the nokia stuff picks the real one |
| 19:00.53 | unique311 | pupnik, |
| 19:01.13 | pupnik770 | hi |
| 19:01.22 | dskippy | this apt-get from the repository (after installing your .deb) *seems* to be working (40%) |
| 19:01.34 | unique311 | I found a genesis emu that seems to be working |
| 19:01.34 | pupnik770 | i am guessing more good gngeo news, right unnique><": |
| 19:01.41 | pupnik770 | oh no way |
| 19:01.48 | unique311 | but only get black screen on the device. |
| 19:01.59 | dskippy | I'm still not clear on if the python2.5 stuff is in your repository or not, timeless. |
| 19:02.04 | pupnik770 | cooool |
| 19:02.06 | unique311 | segfaults in scratchox always because of sound. |
| 19:02.15 | pupnik770 | try a different rom |
| 19:02.19 | unique311 | but definitely looks like it wants to live |
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| 19:02.24 | unique311 | tried a couple. |
| 19:02.34 | unique311 | everything seems to be working from the command line. |
| 19:02.38 | unique311 | no errors at all. |
| 19:02.46 | unique311 | but just the blank screen. |
| 19:02.57 | unique311 | and a noise. |
| 19:03.14 | blackd0t | Is it possible to port ettercap with the maemo sdk? |
| 19:03.34 | pupnik770 | should be easy blackdot as long as promiscuous mode works |
| 19:03.51 | pupnik770 | it is sdl unique |
| 19:03.56 | unique311 | yes |
| 19:04.09 | unique311 | i did manage to compile the tcltk frontend version of it. |
| 19:04.27 | blackd0t | pupnik770: what interests me the most is just the arp poisoning technique that ettercap uses |
| 19:04.39 | unique311 | the gtk version i cant get to compile. |
| 19:04.58 | blackd0t | pupnik770: promiscuous mode should work as the wireless card is able to get into monitor mode with no problem |
| 19:05.54 | pupnik770 | youre not talking about dgen unique}]" |
| 19:06.07 | unique311 | no |
| 19:06.10 | unique311 | generator |
| 19:06.35 | unique311 | generator-0.35-cbiere-r2.tar.bz2 <---- that version |
| 19:06.38 | unique311 | and also |
| 19:06.42 | pupnik770 | ill check here |
| 19:06.52 | unique311 | also the regular generator-0.35 |
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| 19:07.13 | unique311 | you need to line out 1 line. |
| 19:08.01 | unique311 | maybe you don't need to. |
| 19:08.37 | ph|ber | y0 |
| 19:08.56 | ph|ber | anyone using gnokii with a symbian based phone? |
| 19:09.41 | unique311 | pupnik i will pm you the string |
| 19:09.45 | pupnik770 | hmm i have a different version |
| 19:09.57 | unique311 | and links |
| 19:09.58 | pupnik770 | also o.35 but not cbiere i think |
| 19:09.59 | svolpe | :q |
| 19:10.00 | pupnik770 | thanks |
| 19:10.08 | unique311 | 0.35 will work also |
| 19:10.10 | pupnik770 | it doesnt build here |
| 19:10.23 | svolpe | hehe, wrong window, not the VI window, sorry :-) |
| 19:12.11 | Veggen | ircing while playing chess? Is your family exceptionally bad playing chess? |
| 19:12.34 | Veggen | (not requiring your attention) |
| 19:12.47 | dskippy | Veggen, no, his IRC friends are exceptionally good ;) |
| 19:13.24 | dskippy | "Shoot, dad captured my knight, what do I do?" - pipnik770 |
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| 19:13.48 | Veggen | :) |
| 19:13.52 | unique311 | pupnik770 do i pm pupnik770 or pupnik? |
| 19:14.02 | pupnik770 | 770 |
| 19:14.08 | pupnik770 | just not registered with this guy |
| 19:14.12 | svolpe | dskippy, I'm having the same issue with the sdk script, I have installed timeless's dpkg but I guess now my question is how do I know were the original sdk script left off? Is there one main deb file I can install that pulls everything else? |
| 19:14.36 | unique311 | cbeires version http://www.dylanleigh.net/software/lostemulators/generator-0.35-cbiere-r2.tar.bz2 |
| 19:14.39 | blackd0t | pupnik770: what irc client are you using now? |
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| 19:14.48 | dskippy | svolpe, I am having luck with running the sdk script with -fcyd |
| 19:14.58 | dskippy | After installing timeless's .deb |
| 19:15.18 | pupnik770 | xchat |
| 19:15.24 | dskippy | But I fear this is not going to help me get python2.5 on my scratchbox or the device itself. |
| 19:15.30 | pupnik770 | grabbing it unique311 |
| 19:15.35 | unique311 | CFLAGS=-O3 ./configure --with-gcc --with-sdl --with-cmz80 |
| 19:15.41 | pupnik770 | k |
| 19:15.44 | unique311 | was told to use -O3 for speed |
| 19:15.58 | Sho_ | Amazon.com Christmas bestseller announcement: "In PCs, the top sellers included Apple MacBook, Nokia Internet Tablet PC and HP Pavilion Entertainment Notebook PC." |
| 19:16.07 | blackd0t | pupnik770: I have to find it somewhere as the official port site seemed broken last time I visited it :/ |
| 19:16.19 | dskippy | I'm at an excting 98% post timeless.deb |
| 19:16.30 | pupnik770 | blackd0t, cant work on it now sry |
| 19:16.49 | blackd0t | dskippy: Everything worked fine for me, so it should be fine for you as well :) |
| 19:16.58 | blackd0t | pupnik770: Sure no problem :) |
| 19:17.06 | unique311 | you will get 1 error on the building it. you need o line out line 123 in reg68k.c |
| 19:17.09 | dskippy | blackd0t, you using python2.5 by any chance? |
| 19:17.22 | unique311 | but then again that might be why the screen is black...lol |
| 19:17.26 | blackd0t | dskippy: Nope |
| 19:17.36 | dskippy | Damn. I think I'm on my own with that one. |
| 19:17.58 | blackd0t | dskippy: I only needed to install Ruby for Metasploit Framework :) |
| 19:18.39 | Cptnodegard | hrmpf |
| 19:18.53 | Cptnodegard | making a usb otg cable |
| 19:18.56 | dskippy | blackd0t, maybe I'll just have to write this in Ruby then. |
| 19:19.11 | doc|humbug | anyone? |
| 19:19.26 | pupnik770 | ok building unique |
| 19:19.32 | pupnik770 | ok thanks |
| 19:19.51 | blackd0t | dskippy: Ruby seems to work fine, I can do in metasploit everything that I can on stationary computers |
| 19:20.16 | svolpe | dskippy, thanks. |
| 19:20.24 | dskippy | svolpe, no problem. |
| 19:21.33 | svolpe | dskippy, not sure if it helps, but I have OE set up to build N800 debs so I might be able to build the python2.5 debs with it as I too need to get python running. This solution will only help with the device of course. |
| 19:22.13 | kulve | anybody using Mobile MythTv? |
| 19:22.31 | hugol1 | kulve: me |
| 19:22.49 | hugol1 | but I cant get it to work with the last OS2008 image |
| 19:22.54 | hugol1 | it worked with OS2008 beta |
| 19:23.13 | kulve | hugol1: I'm running the client ok on os2008, but I'm having problems with the transcoder part.. |
| 19:23.39 | hugol1 | kulve: it doesnt start for me after I configure it |
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| 19:23.57 | kulve | I compiled everything from the svn/gitr |
| 19:23.59 | kulve | -r |
| 19:24.02 | hugol1 | the transcoding part was fine |
| 19:24.09 | hugol1 | kulve: ok, I used the debs |
| 19:24.13 | hugol1 | thats why |
| 19:24.20 | svolpe | dskippy, I'm tired of there not being a good scientific calculator out there so I figured I would write one in python since I also want to learn python :-) |
| 19:24.41 | dskippy | svlope, sounds like a pretty useful program. |
| 19:24.54 | dskippy | svolpe, will you maybe add some graphing to it? |
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| 19:25.14 | dskippy | svolpe, that's pretty surprising there's not yet a scientific calculator for maemo. |
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| 19:26.49 | svolpe | dskippy, I want to make it full featured. there is the HP48S emulator but I don't like it. I like RPN but not the HP48S. |
| 19:27.52 | timeless | dskippy: my repository is just a /working/ copy of the real repository, and it has python2.5 in extras just like real does, see http://gronmayer.com/it/index.php?lang=en&system=maemo4 |
| 19:28.10 | Veggen | svolpe: tell me about it. The last good HP was the 42S :) |
| 19:28.57 | Veggen | (I know you might disagree and say the 15C, though ;) |
| 19:29.11 | svolpe | Veggen, hehe, I love my 28S. well there is a 42S emulator (thats the one I meant..) but I still don't like running an emulator. |
| 19:30.58 | dskippy | timeless, I have the deb you posted. But how should I point my apt-sources to your repository. |
| 19:31.43 | timeless | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.24 | dskippy | Ah I see. so I am using your repository right now then? |
| 19:33.33 | timeless | if you installed the deb, yes |
| 19:33.48 | dskippy | Can I install this .deb on my n800? |
| 19:33.55 | timeless | yes |
| 19:34.36 | dskippy | Awesome. |
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| 19:35.31 | timeless | hrm, last person to use it grabbed samba-common :) |
| 19:36.02 | timeless | hrm, that's you |
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| 19:37.51 | tbf | how can i fix this warning? |
| 19:37.54 | tbf | W: GPG error: http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com ./ Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2 |
| 19:38.00 | timeless | you can't |
| 19:38.03 | timeless | it's a warning |
| 19:38.07 | timeless | and it's nokia's fault |
| 19:38.16 | timeless | you could fix it by turning the device off until they fix it |
| 19:38.42 | tbf | timeless: uh, that was a quick response :-) |
| 19:38.45 | unique311 | pupnik, you got dgen runnig already, lol. |
| 19:38.57 | unique311 | screw generator. |
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| 19:40.22 | tbf | hmm... well, and now my real problem: apt-get cannot find libgettextpo0 |
| 19:40.31 | tbf | is that related to that warning? |
| 19:40.37 | timeless | the warning is just a warning |
| 19:40.46 | tbf | or is my sources.list incomplete? |
| 19:41.08 | dskippy | timeless, how do I undo the chances your .deb makes later when the repository is back? |
| 19:41.09 | timeless | tbf: which os? 2008? |
| 19:41.17 | tbf | timeless: yup |
| 19:41.29 | unique311 | pupnik, i found this thread on ITT. dejavu http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9891 |
| 19:41.30 | timeless | tbf: gronmayer claims it doesn't know of a package by that name |
| 19:41.54 | tbf | timeless: who or what is gronmayer? |
| 19:42.05 | sp3000 | tbf,topic |
| 19:42.25 | sp3000 | a metacatalog you might say |
| 19:42.27 | tbf | sp3000: duh |
| 19:43.24 | tbf | timeless: strange: glom depends on that package |
| 19:43.32 | sp3000 | re topic, there's no ox2008 download slowness anymore is there |
| 19:43.39 | sp3000 | s/ox/os |
| 19:43.49 | sp3000 | since about the weekend or thereabouts |
| 19:44.01 | timeless | sp3000: i think it's no longer slow |
| 19:44.03 | timeless | just broken :) |
| 19:44.22 | blackd0t | Can you send me a mount command to mount the n800 device through the usb data cable on linux? |
| 19:44.32 | *** topic/#maemo by sp3000 -> development platform for Nokia Internet Tablets | http://freedesktop.org/Software/sbox2/Maemo | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | http://www.gronmayer.com/it | http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/chinook | repository.maemo.org debs are broken |
| 19:45.12 | tbf | timeless, sp3000: he, but really have to bookmark that site on the n800. very useful! |
| 19:45.33 | timeless | sp3000: is there some file that lists all files contained in all packages? |
| 19:45.35 | timeless | i thought i saw one |
| 19:45.36 | kulve | blackd0t: something like: mount -t vfat /dev/sdb1 /mnt ? |
| 19:46.07 | blackd0t | kulve: Ok, I just don't know what filesystem to use and which device it can be |
| 19:46.13 | kulve | "dmesg" will show the device name your linux box sees the n800. And if you have two cards in the n800, you will see them both |
| 19:46.42 | kulve | on my box it's usually sda1 and sdb1 |
| 19:46.43 | sp3000 | timeless: like http://repository.maemo.org/extras/dists/chinook/Contents-armel.gz ? |
| 19:46.48 | timeless | sounds good |
| 19:46.55 | blackd0t | kulve: Ahh yes, you're right. Thanks a lot |
| 19:47.56 | timeless | sp3000: yeah that |
| 19:48.05 | timeless | but, what does that mean? |
| 19:49.31 | sp3000 | hmM? |
| 19:49.43 | pupnik770 | unique311, no idea what commenting that out does but the cpu load while running generator is zero |
| 19:50.08 | timeless | tbf: so um |
| 19:50.14 | timeless | usr/lib/libgettextpo.so.0 devel/gettext |
| 19:50.52 | tbf | timeless: checking right now, if am also a victim of that stupid repostory bug |
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| 19:52.33 | tbf | (20:50:51) tbf: timeless: checking right now, if am also a victim of that stupid repostory bug |
| 19:52.44 | pupnik770 | to attach suddenly to something like a child hugging a grandmother |
| 19:52.45 | timeless | re the nokia repository thing |
| 19:52.59 | timeless | what happened was they updated one file but didn't update the gpg signature |
| 19:53.03 | timeless | it's a process bug |
| 19:53.18 | timeless | and the only people who can fix it are those (a) w/ the key and (b) w/ write access to the server |
| 19:53.36 | tbf | timeless: nah, that DNS name typo |
| 19:53.52 | tbf | timeless: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13721 |
| 19:54.05 | timeless | tbf: this was to someone who has a problem w/ the nokia catalogue |
| 19:54.12 | timeless | which is a *different* repository |
| 19:54.16 | timeless | with *different* problems :) |
| 19:55.28 | unique311 | pupnik770, you got dgen working? |
| 19:55.40 | blackd0t | Ok, a question. I compiled my first simple printf("Hello world") with 'gcc -o hello hello.c" in ARMEL scratchbox, copied it to n800, but when I execute it in xterm it tells me "Permission denied" despite the fact there are already execute permissions on it. |
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| 19:56.40 | timeless | tbf: ok... so... |
| 19:56.49 | timeless | afaik that package is "wrong" |
| 19:56.52 | timeless | but maybe i'm wrong |
| 19:56.58 | unique311 | generator is a emualtor for genesis and megadrive., dgen is only a genesis emu. |
| 19:57.09 | timeless | hrm, nope |
| 19:57.13 | timeless | it seems that there is such a package |
| 19:57.37 | unique311 | pupnik770, you tried getting better speeds from dgen? |
| 19:59.54 | timeless | anyway, re glom, i'm assuming that whomever "ported" glom to maemo didn't realize they needed to publish libgettextpo0 too |
| 20:04.51 | kulve | blackd0t: the mmcs are mounted as "noexec" by default |
| 20:05.17 | kulve | blackd0t: so, maybe easiest thing is to copy it to ~ (i.e. /home/user/) and run it there |
| 20:07.44 | timeless | the other way is to create a file and loopback mount any unix filesystem from it :) |
| 20:07.46 | tbf | timeless: well, let's see if i can catch one of the glom guys tomorrow, to figure out what's wrong |
| 20:08.13 | timeless | tbf: can you figure out who posted the deb? |
| 20:08.34 | tbf | timeless: yes, i know that guys. they just aren't online this evening |
| 20:09.13 | pupnik770 | unique311, no |
| 20:09.27 | tbf | more interesting now: why is wayfinder's map empty on a n800? |
| 20:09.35 | tbf | 'cause of the missing GPS chip? |
| 20:09.47 | timeless | no |
| 20:09.51 | timeless | you need to download maps |
| 20:10.24 | timeless | map>maps, available maps, update |
| 20:10.25 | kulve | tbf: and if you don't have enough space on the internal mmc, if will act very oddly |
| 20:10.32 | timeless | pick a map; download |
| 20:10.43 | timeless | repeat as it tickles your fancy |
| 20:10.58 | timeless | maps in device, select the one you want to use, ok |
| 20:11.22 | tbf | kulve: how many space is needed? |
| 20:11.26 | timeless | kulve: it's much more fun when the mmc |
| 20:11.32 | timeless | tbf: some maps are ~1mb |
| 20:11.36 | timeless | some are ~800mb |
| 20:11.43 | tbf | ok, depends |
| 20:11.57 | timeless | kulve:... the mmc is mounted readonly by the kernel because of corruption :) |
| 20:11.57 | kulve | tbf: yeah, it will the the megabytes on the list |
| 20:12.02 | tbf | timeless: so i just have to find your "map" entry |
| 20:12.12 | tbf | ah! |
| 20:12.20 | tbf | menu button on the right! |
| 20:12.27 | timeless | on the "right"? |
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| 20:12.43 | tbf | timeless: erm... "the other right", aka "left" |
| 20:12.49 | timeless | oh right! |
| 20:14.01 | tbf | timeless: thanks for help |
| 20:14.17 | timeless | tbf: if you get glom fixed, thanks in advance :) |
| 20:16.02 | tbf | timeless: (well, actually i work for openismus, aka the glom guys ;-) --- just exploring the n800 I've got on saturday) |
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| 20:16.32 | timeless | tbf: ok... |
| 20:16.44 | tbf | nice device |
| 20:16.50 | tbf | (that n800) |
| 20:17.28 | tbf | my father, my brother, my father in law and my brother in law immediatly wanted to buy one, once they saw it :-D |
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| 20:21.13 | Cptnodegard | anyone tried connecting non-english keyboards to the n800 with usb otg? |
| 20:21.15 | acydlord | tbf I took mine to podcamp and just about everyonr there wanted it |
| 20:21.27 | Cptnodegard | i'd very much like to have the extra æøå from norwegian keyboards |
| 20:22.37 | acydlord | Cptnodegard, sure haven't, might be able to do something with xmodmap if the n800 has norwegian support |
| 20:23.30 | Cptnodegard | i think it has norwegian as one of the languages (nokia is finish after all, outr neighbors :P) |
| 20:23.39 | Cptnodegard | so im crossing my fingers ^^ |
| 20:24.05 | tontsa_ | well you will get å atleast working :) |
| 20:24.32 | acydlord | i see norsk in the language/region dropdown |
| 20:24.48 | Cptnodegard | :D |
| 20:24.56 | Cptnodegard | nice, thx |
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| 20:25.59 | troozers | blimey are the maemo repos still knackered* |
| 20:27.17 | troozers | ooops '?' not '*' |
| 20:27.34 | timeless | infobot repository.maemo.org deb |
| 20:27.35 | infobot | it has been said that repository.maemo.org deb is unofficial, all warrantees void, http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/repository-maemo-org-dns-0.1.deb |
| 20:27.49 | timeless | troozers: install that |
| 20:29.13 | tbf | is it possible to change the user name used for connecting to samba servers? |
| 20:30.21 | troozers | installing... |
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| 20:31.12 | tbf | well, and what really bugs me, is the context menu always showing up below the pen |
| 20:31.32 | tbf | the usability guys at nokia all must be left handers |
| 20:31.34 | troozers | holy installing apps batman, it WORKS! |
| 20:31.40 | timeless | tbf: it's funny |
| 20:31.44 | timeless | everyone seems to think that |
| 20:31.47 | troozers | cheers timeless |
| 20:31.52 | timeless | but really, the device is designed for right handed people |
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| 20:32.13 | timeless | it just happens to magically work relatively well for left handed people because the designers think right handed people will use the device in one way |
| 20:32.26 | timeless | and the lefties don't use it the exact opposite way |
| 20:32.35 | pupnik770 | of course its for right handers... rh gets stylus |
| 20:32.50 | pupnik770 | us left handers cant use dpad while holding stylus easily |
| 20:33.08 | timeless | pupnik: yeah, but we quickly learn not to try |
| 20:33.40 | pupnik770 | sure, adversity is what makes us stronger |
| 20:33.43 | pupnik770 | :P |
| 20:34.04 | tbf | well, we've got the force to change the source |
| 20:34.35 | pupnik770 | 180 degree rotation for X *xrandr* would solve it |
| 20:34.40 | tbf | guess I'll collect some karma by patching maemo's gtk to properly display the context menu |
| 20:34.59 | timeless | tbf: eh? |
| 20:35.29 | tbf | timeless: well, the tap-and-hold context menu always is covered by the stylus for me |
| 20:35.45 | tbf | timeless: i cannot read the menu items, as i cannot look thru the stylus |
| 20:36.10 | timeless | are you right handed or left handed? |
| 20:36.19 | tbf | timeless: right-handed |
| 20:36.43 | timeless | stylus in right hand? |
| 20:37.03 | tbf | timeless: yup |
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| 20:43.21 | svolpe | dskippy, were you able to get maemo-explicit to install? |
| 20:47.42 | blackd0t | Where can I find libpcap dev version for maemo 4.0 in order to compile ettercap sources? |
| 20:52.34 | svolpe | timeless, I used your deb for modifying the hosts file to allow sdk to install, however I was unable to install maemo-explicit and it does not apear to be in the repo. |
| 20:52.58 | blackd0t | it worked for me couple of hours ago |
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| 21:08.52 | dobey | hola |
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| 21:10.26 | dobey | can anyone tell me why the app manager on chinook would tell me that a package built in a chinook chroot is invalid? |
| 21:12.26 | sibbe | invalid section maybe? it should be user/something iirc |
| 21:17.16 | dobey | it's a library |
| 21:17.27 | sp3000 | dobey: look at the log |
| 21:17.52 | dobey | where's that? in /var/log? |
| 21:18.00 | sp3000 | menu tools log |
| 21:18.31 | dobey | huh |
| 21:18.31 | dobey | ok |
| 21:21.50 | dskippy | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:22.42 | dskippy | I am going to be making an application which will behave a lot like a wizard (but not linear) The user will chose from some fixed options and go to one of the 5 or 6 windows I have in the program. |
| 21:23.35 | dskippy | I'm conserned about closing windows causing the program to quit or window flicker and the like. I'm not sure if these are things that will really be an issue as I'm just starting out though. |
| 21:23.46 | dskippy | Looking for tips on which direction to go in. |
| 21:27.36 | ds3 | is there a hildon equivalent to something like xstring or opie-sh to do a simple UI from a shell script? |
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| 22:37.10 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/zwecklos.jpg Widerstand ist zwecklos. |
| 22:37.11 | pupnik | "Resistance is futile" |
| 22:37.50 | |R | :) |
| 22:49.53 | script | pupnik: aaaaalt ;) |
| 22:50.27 | pupnik | yah |
| 22:51.36 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/Netrek_0_01_tinyfont.jpg noch aelter -- ca 1990 |
| 22:52.02 | script | pupnik: hübsch |
| 22:53.51 | pupnik | based on the massively multiplayer online game 'Empire' from the control data PLATO system, which I played in 1981 and which was created around 1975 |
| 22:53.55 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.58 | pupnik | dat is alt |
| 22:54.15 | script | schon ;) |
| 22:55.47 | script | n8 |
| 23:01.06 | alterego | You rang? |
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| 23:08.37 | solmumaha | alterego: yes, sry |
| 23:09.10 | alterego | :P |
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| 23:29.40 | kup | hi! something new about pimlico dates for os2008? |
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| 23:38.26 | skibur | anybody own a GP2x F200? |
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| 23:40.13 | Mousey | wow, there's people in here |
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| 23:41.15 | pupnik | We are the robots. |
| 23:41.57 | Mousey | say uh, i just got an n810, and i'm wondering if it's normal to have the touchscreen intermittently just stop working |
| 23:42.31 | jeff1f | No |
| 23:42.45 | jeff1f | Sometimes the os is unresponsive though |
| 23:42.56 | Mousey | oh. it should just work all the time working working, unless it's locked? |
| 23:43.04 | Mousey | hmm, os unresponsiveness.. |
| 23:43.08 | jeff1f | should |
| 23:43.22 | Mousey | i'm not sure that's it.. banging it makes it work. maybe i'm banging it at just the right time |
| 23:43.34 | Mousey | but something tells me it's not normal |
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| 23:43.51 | Mousey | tx |
| 23:43.57 | jeff1f | did you calibrate it? |
| 23:44.04 | Mousey | i've calibrated it multiple times |
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| 23:45.31 | Mousey | can't get xchat installed either |
| 23:45.35 | Mousey | but i blame that i'm a n00b |
| 23:46.37 | jeff1f | yeah, it takes some work to get everything working |
| 23:47.36 | Mousey | missing libs. found em' in bora, but maemo seems more unforgiving about having lots of distro levels installed [unlike debian] |
| 23:47.49 | Mousey | that and i'm unfamiliar. =( |
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| 23:51.49 | Mousey | can i replace busybox with bash? |
| 23:51.56 | Mousey | or is that a laughable idea? |
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