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| 00:16.19 | penguinbait | its next week, them codes work yet??? :) |
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| 00:55.20 | lopz | hola |
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| 01:29.16 | czr | hey alterego & all |
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| 01:38.15 | alterego | Hey czr enjoying your holiday? |
| 01:38.37 | czr | alterego, yup. although today was slightly cold |
| 01:38.46 | czr | got sun-burned the very first day, just my luck :-) |
| 01:39.42 | czr | alterego, hows things over here? |
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| 02:13.31 | Esworp | so, what is scratchbox exactly? |
| 02:14.17 | dragorn | a mix of an emulator, the compilers, and a development environment. |
| 02:14.33 | dragorn | lets you run (most) of the maemo dev as if it were on a device |
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| 02:15.40 | Esworp | ahhhh. |
| 02:15.56 | alterego | It's a cross platform development environment. |
| 02:15.56 | alterego | It's used for building customized linux root filesystems and applications for other architectures. |
| 02:16.57 | Esworp | i use the gpe caleendar and todo a LOT. can i expect it to work w/os2008? wasn't it going to get updated? |
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| 02:30.35 | kaie | it's unfortunate that device flashing will not reinstall all the apps. how do the maemo developers solve that problem, who probably flash their device all the time? |
| 02:31.04 | kaie | is there a batch-like mechanism that can be used to reinstall all the apps you want? I guess the answer is to login via ssh and do it from the shell via apt-get... |
| 02:31.32 | kaie | ( s/device flashing will not/data restore after device flashing/ |
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| 02:38.56 | Esworp | i /think/ you can use rsync to basically image things- but as i type that i could imagine that that wouldn't work in the case of a os change. |
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| 02:42.50 | Esworp | ohoh, i got a question about videocenter... |
| 02:44.07 | Esworp | how do you add channels/services? the nokia-provided selection is a little paltry |
| 02:47.32 | unique311 | video center available for os2008? |
| 02:51.24 | Esworp | dunno. but it's underutilized in general. |
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| 03:31.14 | lopz | bye |
| 03:33.07 | zerojay | Esworp: I've been working on my own selection for single-click adding of podcasts and videocasts to Video Center. |
| 03:33.12 | zerojay | Waiting for a 2008 version. |
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| 04:16.40 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:24.31 | |R | can anybody summarize the Nokia Open Source License? |
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| 04:56.34 | rhykin | if you're using the n800 |
| 04:56.38 | rhykin | can you upgrade to 2008 |
| 04:56.40 | rhykin | then back to 2007 |
| 04:56.55 | rhykin | or is the hardware change by 2008 going to affect it from downgrading |
| 04:57.12 | rhykin | and does anyone know ifthe hardware unclock will stay in place |
| 04:57.32 | rhykin | unlock* |
| 04:59.13 | pupnik | you can downgrade |
| 04:59.24 | pupnik | no hardware change, all software |
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| 05:07.26 | ds3 | is there a working program that will let me send and receive SMS's with a bluetooth capable phone on either the 770 or N800? |
| 05:07.40 | ds3 | found one but the comments suggest it doesn't work well |
| 05:08.27 | tontsa | doesn't gnokii work just fine, atleast for sending |
| 05:08.54 | rhykin | ds3: phonelink |
| 05:08.55 | rhykin | ? |
| 05:12.23 | ds3 | think thats the one |
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| 05:28.10 | sarower | hi |
| 05:28.24 | sarower | is there any calendar application for N800? |
| 05:28.55 | pupnik_ | yes GPE? |
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| 05:29.23 | sarower | pupnik_: how i can install it in my device.? |
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| 05:55.27 | sarower | is there any calendar application for N800? |
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| 06:02.20 | sarower | how i can install it in the device? |
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| 06:09.36 | sarower | hello...... |
| 06:09.43 | sarower | is not there...! |
| 06:09.50 | sarower | is there any calendar application for N800? |
| 06:09.55 | sarower | how i can install it in the device? |
| 06:10.05 | sarower | any body please..! |
| 06:10.39 | unique311 | lol |
| 06:10.45 | unique311 | application manager |
| 06:10.55 | unique311 | google can help ya with that. |
| 06:11.29 | unique311 | google maemo gpe |
| 06:11.56 | sarower | <unique311> but there is a .install file only |
| 06:12.05 | sarower | will it work? |
| 06:12.09 | sarower | <unique311> |
| 06:12.11 | sarower | ? |
| 06:12.20 | unique311 | yes |
| 06:12.38 | sarower | i just double click on it..? |
| 06:12.40 | sarower | <unique311> |
| 06:12.41 | sarower | ? |
| 06:12.43 | unique311 | open the link where the .install file is on the N800s webbrowser |
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| 06:13.09 | unique311 | .install files only work from the devices browser |
| 06:13.13 | sarower | I have already downlooaded it in the Pc |
| 06:13.28 | unique311 | no go |
| 06:13.32 | sarower | Then transfered it in the device |
| 06:14.00 | unique311 | never did it that route..not sure it will work |
| 06:14.00 | sarower | now if i click on it.. will it work? |
| 06:14.05 | unique311 | not sure |
| 06:14.08 | unique311 | give it a try |
| 06:14.15 | sarower | sure........ |
| 06:14.19 | sarower | Thanx a lot |
| 06:14.22 | sarower | <unique311>! |
| 06:14.31 | unique311 | np |
| 06:14.46 | unique311 | another way |
| 06:14.50 | sarower | yah |
| 06:14.59 | pupnik | unique311: do you remember what kind of fps you got with desmume? |
| 06:15.05 | unique311 | is to open the .install file in word or notepad |
| 06:15.13 | unique311 | 10 max |
| 06:15.14 | sarower | yah then..? |
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| 06:15.41 | unique311 | open app manager and add the repo links to app manager |
| 06:15.58 | sarower | hmm..... |
| 06:15.59 | unique311 | when you open the .install file you should see the repo links |
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| 06:16.17 | sarower | ok thank you.. |
| 06:16.31 | unique311 | hope i was clear....sometimes i confuse myself. |
| 06:16.51 | unique311 | pupnik, you can get it higher than 10 i think |
| 06:17.08 | unique311 | just the screen was way to small. |
| 06:17.23 | unique311 | and i only got a couple of homebrew apps going |
| 06:18.18 | pupnik | ok |
| 06:18.52 | unique311 | you know how small garnet vm screen is |
| 06:19.17 | unique311 | desmume is smaller than that. |
| 06:19.55 | unique311 | let me know if you get it to compile...i tried to get it compiled for chinook, but didn't get anywhere. |
| 06:20.10 | pupnik | :/ i got it to compile but i don't remember how |
| 06:20.19 | unique311 | remove the gl stuff |
| 06:20.28 | pupnik | yeh |
| 06:20.30 | unique311 | i think thats how i did it for bora |
| 06:20.57 | pupnik | i'm not interested in it though. tak was just asking about it |
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| 06:22.55 | unique311 | what about neopop, had sonic the hedgehog going at 25fps on it. |
| 06:23.41 | pupnik | wow |
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| 06:25.42 | unique311 | if you can get pass the segfaults for the chinook compile, i think you will have descent game emu. |
| 06:26.23 | pupnik | i totally missed out on neopop |
| 06:26.58 | pupnik | do you have a tarball of a built neopop? |
| 06:27.09 | pupnik | i see here |
| 06:27.16 | pupnik | NeoPop is a NeoGeo Pocket Color emulator for the Nintendo GameCube. Currently, it is only available in source code form so you must compile it yourself. |
| 06:27.21 | pupnik | ahh |
| 06:27.31 | unique311 | http://www.nih.at/NeoPop-SDL/ |
| 06:28.24 | unique311 | mind you i gave it a go the other day, and only ended up with segfaults...not sure what i'm doing wrong. (chinook) |
| 06:29.46 | L0cutus | buongiorno |
| 06:29.59 | L0cutus | what is the problem with bluez-utils ? |
| 06:30.08 | L0cutus | i'm unable to upgrade it |
| 06:30.28 | L0cutus | from comman line it claim want to remove osso_software_version :-O |
| 06:30.39 | L0cutus | s/comman/command/ |
| 06:30.40 | unique311 | pupnik here's how sonic look, don't be fooled by the screenshots on the neopop link |
| 06:30.43 | unique311 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADK_3FONefs |
| 06:32.23 | pupnik | looks great :) |
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| 06:47.52 | pupnik | "A whole range of new apps might be 2008 compatible now that they have improved gtk to 2.10.? + cairo." |
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| 06:59.02 | unique311 | pupnik, i got it to work |
| 06:59.15 | unique311 | just needed to run it with a certain flag |
| 06:59.39 | pupnik | the cli version? |
| 06:59.42 | unique311 | sdl |
| 06:59.54 | unique311 | ran in in silent mode. |
| 07:00.02 | unique311 | which is -S |
| 07:00.05 | unique311 | and it runs |
| 07:00.14 | unique311 | 51 fps with no game loaded. |
| 07:01.30 | unique311 | sonic at 35fps max |
| 07:01.33 | pupnik | nice |
| 07:01.35 | unique311 | not bad at all |
| 07:01.35 | pupnik | wow |
| 07:01.50 | pupnik | this is neopop? |
| 07:01.52 | unique311 | yes |
| 07:02.13 | pupnik | U want me to host it? |
| 07:02.21 | unique311 | need to change some stuff in the source to get a bigger screen. |
| 07:02.36 | pupnik | ok give link pls when you do, source/bin |
| 07:02.41 | unique311 | let me mess with it some more. |
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| 07:04.01 | sciboy | Dang, going to have to return this BT keyboard. =( |
| 07:04.05 | unique311 | n810 will not have any issues with it...slide keyboard |
| 07:04.25 | unique311 | but n800 and 770 users will have problems i think. |
| 07:04.41 | sciboy | It paired but I don't think OS2008 is actually recognising it as a keyboard, just some anonymous device. |
| 07:05.09 | pupnik | this the $39 thing sciboy ? |
| 07:05.21 | sciboy | No, $190 |
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| 07:06.22 | sciboy | The mac wireless keyboard is bluetooth right? |
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| 07:13.22 | konttori | morning |
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| 07:18.53 | limepi | wait, neopop?~ |
| 07:18.56 | limepi | !!?@? awesome |
| 07:22.55 | sciboy | Yep, seems I'll probably grab the apple wireless keyboard and be done with it. |
| 07:32.02 | sciboy | I'm not just considering it, fact is it's the only practical one available in my area. |
| 07:32.50 | sciboy | I was hoping for portable/fold-away, but that idea flopped since they're just too hard to come by, and they aren't as stable. |
| 07:33.16 | sciboy | Once I return this POS, I'll go grab one. |
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| 07:34.04 | |R | wth is this nokia 8800 at 1500$ i see on eBay?! :P |
| 07:34.50 | limepi | hmm |
| 07:34.57 | limepi | I considered the apple keyboard |
| 07:35.08 | limepi | but I have a fabric one. it just doesn't work :( |
| 07:35.20 | sciboy | Oh _that_ fabric one. |
| 07:35.36 | sciboy | I avoided it since I want something I could use on my lap. |
| 07:36.10 | sciboy | Plus, I'm addicted to keys that click. |
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| 08:29.02 | timely | sp3000? |
| 08:29.13 | timely | suppose itos didn't have application manager |
| 08:29.29 | timely | would it be possible to treat the tablet as something that could be safely given to untrusted people |
| 08:29.48 | timely | (basically just a web browser) |
| 08:30.25 | celesteh | untrusted like they might stuff it in a pocket and wander off? |
| 08:30.28 | timely | http://europe.nokia.com/8800sirocco |
| 08:30.40 | timely | celesteh: more like i don't want them changing the system configuration |
| 08:30.45 | celesteh | amy physical access to any machine gives the user access to break in to it |
| 08:31.17 | sp3000 | hm |
| 08:31.33 | timely | clearly ICD settings would need to be locked down |
| 08:31.35 | timely | and about:config |
| 08:31.41 | timely | otherwise someone could set a proxy and snoop |
| 08:31.58 | sp3000 | without rd mode you can't install stuff from privileged documents I suppose |
| 08:32.18 | sp3000 | s/rd mode/root access setup/ |
| 08:34.51 | fatal- | does osso or anything else provide an service to play a "beep", ie a notification sound? |
| 08:35.28 | timely | echo ^G doesn't work? :) |
| 08:36.16 | hahlo | I did steps like topic said, but last step didn't work: sb2-init -m maemo maemo $HOME/arm-2007q3/bin/arm-linux-gcc |
| 08:36.37 | fatal- | err... |
| 08:36.50 | hahlo | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:37.16 | hahlo | why is that? |
| 08:37.43 | timely | wow, short topic |
| 08:37.43 | lle2 | hahlo: which version of sb2 you have? |
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| 08:37.53 | timely | lle2: you want the topic all to yourself? |
| 08:38.05 | lle2 | timely: no :) |
| 08:39.05 | lle2 | timely: I originally intended not to hijack it completely, but pressed enter accidentally before completing it |
| 08:39.46 | hahlo | lle2: 1.99.0.19 |
| 08:39.58 | lle2 | hahlo: too old :) |
| 08:40.41 | hahlo | lle2: where I get newer? I follow instructions and install it with apt-get |
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| 08:41.15 | lle2 | hahlo: yup, sorry for jumping the gun a bit with the instructions, but I wanted to get them out before the holidays |
| 08:41.25 | lle2 | hahlo: at the moment you need to build it yourself |
| 08:41.27 | lle2 | it's not hard |
| 08:41.40 | lle2 | the top part of the non-debian guide describes how |
| 08:41.55 | lle2 | just uninstall the version that you have now |
| 08:41.55 | hahlo | lle2: ok, thanks |
| 08:42.21 | lle2 | leave qemu though, that should be fine |
| 08:42.36 | hahlo | ok |
| 08:44.05 | lle2 | hahlo: are you on a 32bit host? |
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| 08:51.06 | hahlo | lle2: yes and I build newer sb2 but still older is in use despite make install went through |
| 08:51.28 | lle2 | hahlo: could you uninstall the older one? |
| 08:51.45 | hahlo | I try |
| 08:52.02 | lle2 | and add the new one to the path, $HOME/scratchbox2/bin, if you followed the instructions |
| 08:52.35 | hahlo | I followed this: Partial Step by Step Guide for non-Debian i386 Hosts |
| 08:52.48 | lle2 | yup |
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| 08:54.42 | Zekquel | hello, anybody using maemo online ? |
| 08:59.04 | timely | ? |
| 08:59.35 | Zekquel | i need someone that knows maemo well to help me use it on an arm-based linux |
| 09:00.30 | Zekquel | i have this: http://www.arcom.com/pxa270-xscale-zeus.htm with a touchscreen-lcd and i want to be able to use maemo and maemo applications with it |
| 09:00.58 | lle2 | that's not trivial |
| 09:01.07 | timely | "development platform for Nokia Internet Tablets | http://freedesktop.org/Software/sbox2/Maemo | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | http://www.gronmayer.com/it | http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/chinook |
| 09:01.18 | *** topic/#maemo by timely -> development platform for Nokia Internet Tablets | http://freedesktop.org/Software/sbox2/Maemo | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog | http://www.gronmayer.com/it | http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/chinook |
| 09:01.26 | lle2 | yay! |
| 09:01.31 | timely | http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/search?q=changes+topic+to |
| 09:01.37 | timely | in case you need to fix something in the future :) |
| 09:02.56 | lle2 | although I think we should try to make it short |
| 09:03.02 | lle2 | er |
| 09:03.34 | lle2 | and have a rotation policy for the first 30 characters, so that it can be used effectively for advertising new stuff |
| 09:03.36 | Zekquel | i thought that if it is an open-source platform, someone may have ported it .. not really port |
| 09:04.01 | Zekquel | i run an arm-based linux, exactly as nokia internet tables do |
| 09:04.20 | lle2 | yeah, on an xscale |
| 09:04.32 | Zekquel | yes |
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| 09:04.37 | timely | explaining what maemo is requires a PhD |
| 09:04.57 | lle2 | last I checked xscale was bigendian |
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| 09:05.07 | Zekquel | i kind of know what maemo is |
| 09:05.22 | Zekquel | maemo is a set of libraries ( sorry for my bad english ) |
| 09:05.26 | unique311 | pupnik, mapped a couple of keys, messed with the source and got it fullscreen. |
| 09:05.35 | timely | Zekquel: i'm not sure i could find two people at Nokia who could agree as to what maemo is |
| 09:05.35 | lle2 | maemo is a process, a metaphore, a state of mind |
| 09:05.37 | pupnik | coool :) |
| 09:05.42 | unique311 | uploading a quick video |
| 09:05.47 | unique311 | looks pretty cool |
| 09:06.00 | unique311 | i'll send you the source code, and the bin in a minute |
| 09:06.00 | timely | Zekquel: i suspect i could probably get even 5 people to agree to my statement :) |
| 09:06.13 | unique311 | you can hack away at it a little more. |
| 09:06.35 | pupnik | will you make a post on ITT? |
| 09:06.38 | Zekquel | yes timely, but i have a certain true in my statement that maemo is a set of libraies |
| 09:06.54 | lle2 | Zekquel: it's definitely a non-trivial thing to port maemo to your hw |
| 09:06.57 | unique311 | not sure.. |
| 09:07.12 | Zekquel | define non-trivial lle2 |
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| 09:07.24 | Zekquel | ( sorry for my bad english again ) |
| 09:07.26 | lle2 | something that I would not do in my freetime |
| 09:07.37 | unique311 | you can if you want...if i release it on itt they'll want me to do more work to it.. :) |
| 09:07.39 | unique311 | lazy |
| 09:07.40 | timely | Zekquel: well, does maemo include a kernel? because that isn't a library |
| 09:07.47 | lle2 | and I hack sb2 as a hobby, so that should put it in perspective |
| 09:07.50 | timely | and does maemo include binaries? because those aren't libraries :) |
| 09:08.00 | syntux | how's OS2008 with N800 so far? |
| 09:08.02 | timely | and each release has a different set of libraries |
| 09:08.04 | Zekquel | lle2, you are right, but i was asking if someone did this before, so i won't have to study it from scratch |
| 09:08.40 | Zekquel | or if nokia provides enough docs to help me start porting |
| 09:08.44 | lle2 | Zekquel: as far as I know most of the maemo cruft is in openembedded |
| 09:08.45 | Zekquel | you see.. it's not really porting |
| 09:08.55 | lle2 | that supports xscale targets |
| 09:09.05 | Zekquel | porting means to rewrite a program from an architecture to another, from an OS to another |
| 09:09.13 | Zekquel | and in our case the os is the same |
| 09:09.41 | lle2 | use openembedded if you want to have results this decade |
| 09:09.45 | hahlo | lle2: export $HOME/scratchbox2/bin said bash: export: `/home/hahlo/scratchbox2/bin': not a valid identifier |
| 09:10.13 | lle2 | hahlo: you should do export PATH=$HOME/scratchbox2/bin:$PATH |
| 09:10.24 | hahlo | ah' |
| 09:10.44 | Zekquel | lle2 let me see what is openembedded |
| 09:11.01 | lle2 | openembbeded.org tells everything |
| 09:11.32 | Zekquel | yes, i am now browsing it |
| 09:11.39 | hahlo | now sb2 -v gives 1.99.0.22 |
| 09:12.34 | lle2 | hahlo: since you're on a debian system, you can ignore the rest of the non-debian guide |
| 09:12.45 | lle2 | go back to running sb2-init |
| 09:13.28 | Zekquel | lle2 |
| 09:13.37 | Zekquel | my linux is also a debian-based linux |
| 09:14.28 | hahlo | lle2: sb2-init -m maemo maemo $HOME/arm-2007q3/bin/arm-linux-gcc |
| 09:14.37 | hahlo | now works thanks |
| 09:14.41 | lle2 | hahlo: great! |
| 09:15.12 | lle2 | Zekquel: mine is not. fedora 8 is good. |
| 09:15.28 | Zekquel | i mean the linux on the embedded device |
| 09:15.41 | lle2 | it is? |
| 09:16.20 | lle2 | then you don't need openembedded |
| 09:16.25 | lle2 | and you don't need maemo |
| 09:16.37 | lle2 | debian is almost infinitely better than either of thoes |
| 09:16.51 | Zekquel | yes lle2, but i need a graphical package for my device |
| 09:17.03 | Zekquel | and maemo looks very attractive |
| 09:17.15 | lle2 | do you have X server on it? |
| 09:17.19 | Zekquel | yes |
| 09:17.23 | lle2 | gtk? |
| 09:17.31 | Zekquel | can install gtk2 too |
| 09:17.43 | lle2 | okay |
| 09:17.45 | Zekquel | but i am not very familiar with the x-server |
| 09:18.23 | lle2 | hmm, in *principle* you could take the hildon & related libraries and compile them to your target |
| 09:18.37 | lle2 | but you're totally asking for a lot of pain |
| 09:18.48 | timely | lle2: are you discouraging someone from using hildon? how dare you ;-? |
| 09:19.08 | lle2 | you might want to look at how openembedded has integrated them into their build system |
| 09:19.29 | Zekquel | never used it before |
| 09:19.29 | Zekquel | i am a programmer |
| 09:19.29 | Zekquel | i am working with gps devices, serial communications |
| 09:19.29 | Zekquel | the graphic-based devices is a new domain to me, that i have to learn how to deal with it |
| 09:19.30 | Zekquel | and the company that provides the embedded board does not have any forum to discuss things.. |
| 09:19.30 | Zekquel | and i could not find any embedded-linux dev forums |
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| 09:19.54 | lle2 | I cannot recommend simply taking the source packages and recompiling them, as their quality is hilarious |
| 09:20.13 | Zekquel | yes lle2 i have tried this too |
| 09:20.19 | timely | hilarious isn't quite the right word |
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| 09:20.35 | timely | sometimes you'll feel better being the lemming who walks off the cliff |
| 09:20.40 | Zekquel | but yet i have no knowledge about a few things on embedded linux |
| 09:21.05 | Zekquel | windows ce is more documented than embedded linux, but me prefers linux |
| 09:21.13 | lle2 | I think you should start by making sure the X server works |
| 09:21.25 | astro76 | Zekquel, also consider your device only outputs 640x480, maemo is set-up for 800x480, touch screen, no mouse or cursor |
| 09:21.30 | timely | Zekquel: who's your audience, and what do they need? |
| 09:21.35 | lle2 | and after that test gtk2 with some "hello world"ish gui app |
| 09:22.04 | timely | if you can afford to pay for the wince/winem license, and or feel that the price is worth the value of the documentation |
| 09:22.05 | Zekquel | timely, i am only learning the device for now... no audience |
| 09:22.13 | timely | then perhaps the tradeoff is worth it |
| 09:22.45 | timely | documentation is very valuable, people generally don't realize just how valuable |
| 09:22.48 | lle2 | once that's out of the way, slowly start looking at compiling the hildon libraries, manually, with no debian packaging |
| 09:22.56 | timely | or how hard it is to buy/pay for good documentation |
| 09:23.15 | Zekquel | lle2 i never heard of hildon libraries before |
| 09:23.29 | timely | Zekquel: hildon is maemo's ui glue |
| 09:23.29 | lle2 | Zekquel: from what I remember recent hildon libs support vanilla gtk |
| 09:23.47 | timely | it's something like live.gnome.org/hildon |
| 09:24.19 | lle2 | I would prepare to use about a month or two to get the maemo gui stuff built and running |
| 09:24.22 | timely | iirc ubuntu mobile or someone actually started playing w/ or using it |
| 09:24.42 | Zekquel | thanks |
| 09:24.53 | Zekquel | i will try to read more on hildon and openembedded |
| 09:25.11 | timely | also, is there a time frame? |
| 09:25.26 | timely | because there's at least one other embedding platform that will eventually exist |
| 09:25.56 | timely | there's some strange paradox that talks about the best way to do something as being not to start until later |
| 09:26.05 | unique311 | ubuntu mobile for i386 |
| 09:26.19 | timely | unique311: but does it use hildon? |
| 09:26.25 | unique311 | not intended for arm, which sucks |
| 09:26.26 | unique311 | yes |
| 09:26.30 | Zekquel | no time limit.. i started learning embedded as a hobbty |
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| 09:27.03 | pupnik | lle2: yes pcsx just uses the vanilla gtk for e.g. |
| 09:27.18 | unique311 | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mobile |
| 09:27.27 | unique311 | lots of familiar packages |
| 09:28.16 | astro76 | I'd be surprised if they don't target ARM eventually |
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| 09:28.59 | lle2 | I would hope they target x86 first properly before aiming their buggywagons elsewhere |
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| 09:29.10 | astro76 | seems to be their plan |
| 09:29.47 | lle2 | spread their bugs far and wide? |
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| 09:32.27 | unique311 | not sure why youtube won't play my video of neopop running on the n800 |
| 09:32.41 | unique311 | don't think i did anything illegal. |
| 09:33.07 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 09:33.20 | unique311 | good morning |
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| 09:42.36 | tigert | yowz |
| 09:43.38 | unique311 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKGmOjeAm2Y |
| 09:43.42 | unique311 | there it is.. |
| 09:43.52 | unique311 | pupnik, check ur PMs |
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| 09:44.18 | tigert | for those of you who are using os2008 |
| 09:44.36 | AD-N770 | bon dia / good morning |
| 09:44.43 | tigert | yo mr. dent |
| 09:45.15 | tigert | http://maemointeraction.wordpress.com/ |
| 09:45.15 | tigert | I guess it'll be in the planet soon too |
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| 09:46.19 | protocol_ | Hi, anybody knows how to use ESD to record sound on maemo platform. |
| 09:46.50 | protocol_ | I am trying a simple example application "esdrec" which does not work. |
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| 09:47.11 | bedboi | hi all |
| 09:47.25 | protocol_ | It hangs on the sencond read attempt every time I tried. |
| 09:47.44 | protocol_ | "esdrec" works perfectly on pc. |
| 09:47.59 | protocol_ | Any help would be really appreciated. |
| 09:48.20 | unique311 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKGmOjeAm2Y Sonic the hedgehog pocket adventure running on neopop emu (N800) |
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| 09:54.28 | timely | tigert: nice art |
| 09:56.19 | Jaffa | http://www.plasmadesign.co.uk/PSP.htm has some nice ones which scale up to 800x480 nicely |
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| 09:59.11 | jeddy3 | tigert and jaffa: nice! |
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| 10:00.44 | fatal- | err.. How can I make some system service to be run as root? |
| 10:01.06 | fatal- | it seems to be that by default /etc/init.d is being run as user? |
| 10:01.26 | fatal- | yet somehow some of the services manage to be started as root anyhow |
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| 10:05.54 | pupnik | thanks unique311 and merry christmas |
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| 10:09.55 | pupnik | unique311: was fps much better without scaling? |
| 10:17.13 | florian | good morning |
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| 10:20.49 | maddlah | morning all... |
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| 10:36.18 | X-Fade | Hmm I guess nobody noticed the big news? :) |
| 10:36.33 | wumpus | big news? |
| 10:36.37 | jeddy3 | os2008 :) |
| 10:36.43 | jeddy3 | ? |
| 10:36.53 | X-Fade | yep.. |
| 10:37.07 | jeddy3 | just read it... |
| 10:37.27 | wumpus | cool |
| 10:38.25 | bedboi | X-Fade: which news? |
| 10:39.00 | bedboi | ah |
| 10:40.09 | lle2 | must be the 1.99.0.22 release of sb2 |
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| 10:40.47 | bedboi | lle2: http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/first_official_os2008_update.html |
| 10:41.37 | bedboi | i'm making a backup |
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| 10:53.02 | L0cutus | wow thanks bedboi ! |
| 10:53.08 | L0cutus | i'm downloading |
| 10:53.26 | L0cutus | also my 16Gb SDHC is arrived today :) |
| 10:53.44 | bedboi | 16Gb? |
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| 10:54.22 | bedboi | damn it's huge |
| 10:54.27 | rocketman | Someone have a fast download site for the new release for N810? |
| 10:54.27 | bedboi | i don't think it's supported |
| 10:54.45 | bedboi | rocketman: come on, be patient :) |
| 10:54.50 | rocketman | Official download site going at like 15 k/s |
| 10:55.08 | bedboi | ah cool |
| 10:55.14 | bedboi | i'm stealing all the bandwidth |
| 10:55.18 | bedboi | it's 120kb/s |
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| 10:55.37 | L0cutus | <bedboi> i don't think it's supported |
| 10:55.46 | L0cutus | yes, i''m using it now (ext2) |
| 10:55.51 | bedboi | COOL |
| 10:55.59 | bedboi | are you serious? |
| 10:56.01 | L0cutus | plus an 8Gb internal |
| 10:56.03 | rocketman | At this rate, my N810's batteries will be drained by the time it is done downloading and the updater will magically brick my n810 |
| 10:56.09 | L0cutus | so total il 24gb :D |
| 10:56.54 | L0cutus | i'm downloading at 110k/sec |
| 10:57.08 | tontsa | does that update work thru application manager too or you need the cable? |
| 10:57.18 | L0cutus | cable |
| 10:57.31 | L0cutus | reflash |
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| 10:58.04 | L0cutus | i don't know if it is 'safe' to backup and then restore all... |
| 10:58.09 | L0cutus | i have beta 1 |
| 10:58.23 | tontsa | i have n810 with os2008 already in it |
| 10:58.24 | rothiel | Hello World :) |
| 10:59.09 | L0cutus | ciao ro |
| 10:59.12 | dpb_ | tontsa: the new os2008 image that was released today? |
| 10:59.12 | L0cutus | ops |
| 10:59.22 | L0cutus | ciao rothiel |
| 10:59.29 | tontsa | dpb_, no of course not |
| 10:59.37 | L0cutus | http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/first_official_os2008_update.html |
| 10:59.49 | L0cutus | date report today |
| 10:59.52 | L0cutus | 18/12/07 |
| 10:59.53 | rocketman | Here is a file change log |
| 10:59.55 | dpb_ | yeah, people here were talking about the new one :) |
| 11:00.00 | rocketman | looks like the gps driver was updated |
| 11:00.09 | tontsa | yeah and i'm wondering if it's just a simple update for n810 folks |
| 11:00.28 | rocketman | as well as libbluetooth2 |
| 11:00.31 | tigert | the url lists a changelog I think |
| 11:00.43 | tontsa | good that bluetooth is updated, cause it's very shaky on my n810 |
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| 11:00.46 | rocketman | and some new themes |
| 11:01.09 | cosmo_ | is there any sensible text editor for device, that can edit any normal text files? |
| 11:01.20 | cosmo_ | and doesn't need huge dependencies |
| 11:01.28 | rocketman | I like nano, myself |
| 11:01.34 | rocketman | pretty straightforward |
| 11:01.58 | rocketman | doesn't require reading a book to learn like vi and emacs |
| 11:02.12 | L0cutus | also flashplayer and microb |
| 11:02.19 | cosmo_ | is there deb available? i found some nano version which wanted dependencies |
| 11:02.27 | cosmo_ | emacs would be the best ;) |
| 11:02.55 | cosmo_ | i'd settle for something like maemopad which wouldn't be limited to MyDocs |
| 11:02.57 | rocketman | Some sip changes too |
| 11:03.27 | jeddy3 | rocketman, you have link to changelog? |
| 11:03.49 | rocketman | sorry, thought I posted already |
| 11:03.50 | rocketman | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/changes/50-2_vs_44-4_comparison.html |
| 11:03.58 | jeddy3 | thnks |
| 11:04.13 | rocketman | metalayer-crawler0 unchanged :( |
| 11:04.39 | L0cutus | hope they fixed also the 'softpoweroff' script |
| 11:04.50 | tontsa | hehe. i have something like 42-19 on mine right now |
| 11:06.23 | rocketman | Glad to see chess got updated...cause that was real critical |
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| 11:08.00 | rocketman | RSS reader updated |
| 11:08.03 | L0cutus | don't know why they don't use torrent files.... |
| 11:08.53 | rocketman | newer xterm |
| 11:09.32 | rocketman | I was listening to "This American Life" and Ira Glass was bitching about the bandwidth bills and how they were like $200,000 |
| 11:10.28 | L0cutus | 88% ;) |
| 11:10.40 | dpb_ | os2008 has xterm installed by default? cool. |
| 11:10.48 | rocketman | I wrote a letter explaining in layman's terms the benefits of torrent distribution |
| 11:11.01 | rocketman | they are still begging for money.... |
| 11:11.24 | tigert | cosmo_: I would guess emacs would work just by recompiling the src deb of emacs-nox? |
| 11:11.36 | tigert | cosmo_: it would be pretty big of course |
| 11:11.39 | tigert | but thats emacs for you :) |
| 11:11.44 | tigert | micro-emacs might be useful? |
| 11:11.47 | tigert | anyone remember that one? |
| 11:11.55 | tigert | I had it on the amiga years ago, though I had no clue what it was :) |
| 11:12.01 | _berto_ | or joe ;) |
| 11:12.10 | _berto_ | with the emacs keybindings (jmacs) |
| 11:12.11 | tigert | was fun to discover it again a few years back when I booted my a500 again after a long time |
| 11:12.14 | tigert | yeah |
| 11:12.14 | Veggen | hmm. download speed not too bad compared to when they released the beta.... :) |
| 11:12.16 | tigert | jmacs was ok |
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| 11:15.50 | rocketman | Anybody managed to download the file yet? |
| 11:16.25 | rocketman | I am sitting at 30% and it is getting slower and slower... |
| 11:16.28 | Veggen | 30 of 134 MB now. |
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| 11:16.51 | Veggen | (but I only started a few minutes ago) |
| 11:17.05 | Veggen | around 100 KB/sc. |
| 11:17.16 | rocketman | If someone has finished 44_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin could they please host a torrent? |
| 11:17.59 | kulve | is it legal to host that? |
| 11:18.16 | Veggen | probably not. |
| 11:18.16 | L0cutus | ok, flashed |
| 11:18.43 | L0cutus | it have found my backup data and asked for restore |
| 11:19.55 | rocketman | I am always extremely dubious about restoring anything from backup |
| 11:20.03 | rocketman | their backup program basically just overwrites files |
| 11:20.19 | rocketman | and it has been known to have extremely subtle bad consequences in the past |
| 11:20.33 | L0cutus | hem :) |
| 11:20.41 | rocketman | I basically restore my repositories list and bookmarks |
| 11:20.49 | tigert | if you have nothing in the device already (just flashed it) there are not much to overwrite |
| 11:21.17 | tigert | I guess the problems might arise if you have a backup from your 770 os2005 and you want to restore it |
| 11:21.24 | L0cutus | i have many apps to restore |
| 11:21.33 | rocketman | the point is, the backup program when restoring can overwrite configuration files with older, not completely compatible versions of those same files |
| 11:21.47 | rocketman | It caused a lot of problems with microb for instance |
| 11:21.50 | tigert | rocketman: yep, I see the problem |
| 11:22.00 | L0cutus | it is reinstalling all apps |
| 11:25.55 | cosmo_ | first crash with the new 2008 ;) |
| 11:26.31 | GNUton | Hi! :) |
| 11:27.04 | rocketman | OS 2008 - Crash Different |
| 11:27.04 | L0cutus | lol cosmo_ |
| 11:27.11 | L0cutus | v2 crash different |
| 11:27.47 | rocketman | All hail the new bugs, same as the old bugs |
| 11:27.54 | cosmo_ | tried to install fm radio and browser died. on second time it seems to work.. |
| 11:28.21 | rocketman | This is on a n800, right? N810 doesn't have a radio, so that might be your problems |
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| 11:28.40 | cosmo_ | n800 |
| 11:29.01 | cosmo_ | well, the browser shouln't crash even on 810 |
| 11:29.31 | tigert | the 2008 has been pretty solid for me lately |
| 11:29.36 | alterego | In an ideal world. |
| 11:29.41 | tigert | you havent even seen the first iterations of the OS :-) |
| 11:29.49 | tigert | its been pretty good now |
| 11:30.07 | cosmo_ | ok, the browser died _after_ installing |
| 11:32.12 | cosmo_ | hm, this getting started demo is fancy |
| 11:32.25 | rocketman | Oh well, this download is moving like sludge. Going to go get my 3:30 am lunch break |
| 11:32.34 | rocketman | bbl |
| 11:34.16 | tigert | it's 1337 o'clock soon again! :) |
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| 11:35.04 | inz | oh noes |
| 11:36.31 | inz | 1337EET |
| 11:36.40 | tigert | :) |
| 11:36.42 | tigert | yeah! |
| 11:36.45 | alterego | hah |
| 11:36.50 | inz | The eastern americans have it better, they have 1337EST |
| 11:36.55 | tigert | inz: did you compile the fancypants xterm for os2008 yet btw? |
| 11:37.11 | tigert | since it has the stuff we left out for style/consistency reasons from the included one |
| 11:37.20 | tigert | I know some people have requested that one |
| 11:37.37 | rocketman | 337 right now :) |
| 11:38.06 | inz | tigert, nah, I read the code of the bundled one and got depressed |
| 11:38.36 | tigert | oh? |
| 11:38.40 | ccooke | fancy terminal? got a link? |
| 11:44.43 | mgedmin | http://maemo-hackers.org/xterm, wasn't it? |
| 11:45.12 | mgedmin | no |
| 11:45.25 | mgedmin | (maemo-hackers.org is s l o w) |
| 11:45.32 | mgedmin | http://maemo-hackers.org/wiki/OssoXterm |
| 11:46.17 | tontsa | now just needs chinook build :) |
| 11:48.27 | kulve | we really do. The "built-in" is horrible (worse that maemo-hackers version at least) |
| 11:50.30 | dpb_ | better than nothing though.. |
| 11:50.54 | tontsa | the built-in is quite usable |
| 11:51.25 | kulve | I don't like it at all. It doens't have tabs etc |
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| 11:51.49 | tontsa | well my usual use case is just ssh:in to remote host and detaching screen |
| 11:51.57 | tontsa | so lack of tabs doesn't bother me |
| 11:52.19 | kulve | I need to attach to 3 screens :) |
| 11:52.43 | jumpula | kulve: nested screens, different meta-keys? |
| 11:52.45 | tontsa | well poor you then :) |
| 11:52.57 | kulve | I had desktop files running xterm + "ssh remotehost", but I couldn't do that with the built-int |
| 11:54.06 | dpb_ | terminals shouldn't have tabs... |
| 11:54.56 | pupnik | haha |
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| 11:56.11 | Jaffa | Relatively big bump in macromedia-flashplayer version (2.30-1 to 2.35-1) |
| 11:56.42 | lardman | what we need is a bump in the Nokia shop discount code parsing component |
| 11:57.54 | pupnik | nokia.de reports 'still in stock' |
| 11:57.58 | Jaffa | Indeed. My wife wants this N810 ASAP. |
| 11:58.14 | Jaffa | tablet-browser-controls: 0.1.24-1 to 0.2.2-1. |
| 11:58.24 | pupnik | i just know they'll go on backorder as soon as I get the confirmation |
| 11:58.46 | alterego | I feel like I'm in the lowest depths of Hell .. |
| 11:59.00 | pupnik | you must be coding something |
| 11:59.18 | GNUton | I'm testing hildonmm.. i've compiled a simple application, but it doesn't work.. it crash with this message 'Failed to open "/var/lib/dbus/machine-id": No such file or directory' |
| 11:59.22 | alterego | No, I'm attempting to configure Exim for multiple domains :/ |
| 11:59.39 | alterego | GNUton, you need to generate that file. |
| 12:00.00 | alterego | dbus-uuidgen |
| 12:00.25 | alterego | So: sudo sh -c "dbus-uuidgen > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id" |
| 12:01.00 | GNUton | alterego: ok works! :) |
| 12:01.03 | GNUton | done! :) |
| 12:01.14 | alterego | What works? |
| 12:01.16 | alterego | What's done? |
| 12:01.48 | GNUton | alterego: machine-id generated.. and yhe simple program start..! :) |
| 12:01.59 | GNUton | it doesn't crash anymore! |
| 12:02.03 | alterego | Good. |
| 12:02.06 | GNUton | alterego: thank you! :) |
| 12:02.14 | alterego | No problem. |
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| 12:03.37 | Rocketman12 | Sitting at Denny's....freaking Denny's |
| 12:04.45 | Rocketman12 | Was going to get myself a big juicy burger at Jack in the Box....but the employees locked themselves in and were asleep on the tables |
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| 12:05.52 | Rocketman12 | sometimes I hate working the night shift... |
| 12:06.06 | Jaffa | BTW, am I missing something or does OS2008 have no visual indicator any more as to whether a WLAN is ad-hoc or infrastructure? |
| 12:06.54 | tigert | it has |
| 12:07.01 | tigert | as far as I know |
| 12:07.19 | Rocketman12 | So, any first responses to the new release? |
| 12:07.58 | tigert | Jaffa: should have ·)))) vs ·)))· in the icon? |
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| 12:08.36 | tigert | though I dont have that exact one installed, but the icons were updated a while ago so I guess they should be in that release |
| 12:08.51 | Rocketman12 | I think wireless-tools has been released now |
| 12:09.07 | Rocketman12 | so you can get all the details you want |
| 12:09.18 | kulve | are the ipv6 tools in some repo for os200x? |
| 12:10.45 | lardman | I'm probably just heading up into purgatory, trying to tweak the OGG bit reading code to use 16bit chars rather than 8bit. Uuurgh |
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| 12:12.57 | pupnik | would someone with a clue talk to lardman please? i can't |
| 12:13.16 | lardman | pupnik: don't worry, I'm making progress |
| 12:13.37 | lardman | pupnik: crc code is tweaked, but there are more functions which need tweaking |
| 12:14.18 | pupnik | ok. please put comments in - maybe someone else can learn from them |
| 12:14.37 | lardman | yeah, I'll do a patch against the original when I get it done |
| 12:15.29 | Jaffa | tigert: you're joking, right? 3 bars rather than 4 is supposed to be the difference? Hollowed vs. filled was bad enough, but how as a user am I supposed to remember which is which (or, if I've only got one type shown, which it is) |
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| 12:24.36 | tigert | no |
| 12:24.43 | tigert | two dots for ad-hoc |
| 12:24.59 | tigert | maybe my ascii borked |
| 12:25.11 | tigert | .)))) vs .))). |
| 12:25.52 | tigert | adhoc has "two peers" in the metaphor |
| 12:26.06 | tigert | even though its not totally correct technically |
| 12:26.23 | tigert | since adhoc is not just peer-peer of course |
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| 12:42.35 | Jaffa | tigert: ok, I'll try reflashing and checking again. I even RTFMed and it said "ad-hoc connections show X, and infrastructure show Y" - but I couldn't see a difference between X & Y. |
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| 12:44.57 | tigert | yeah, hmm |
| 12:45.14 | tigert | i will flash the 2008 on my n800 soon too |
| 12:45.32 | tigert | lets see |
| 12:46.04 | lardman | anyone have experience of updating asm code? |
| 12:46.40 | lardman | I'm trying to work out whether I'd be better off updating some C54 asm to work on the C55, or just implementing the functions in C and possibly tweaking the asm from there |
| 12:47.40 | Jaffa | Maintenance in C is going to be easier for other developers too, I guess. |
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| 12:48.36 | lardman | yes and there are lots of remark and warning messages emitted about this asm, would probably take a fair while to do |
| 12:48.46 | lardman | though it may be necessary in the end to make it fast enough |
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| 13:10.14 | X-Fade | Hmm Nokia triple slider :) http://www.unwiredview.com/2007/12/17/triple-slider-idea-from-nokia/ |
| 13:12.23 | derf | That sounds like either a drink or a baseball pitch... or both. |
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| 13:15.01 | pupnik | http://thankyoudodd.com/ Chris dodd courageously stands up for the constitution |
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| 13:19.01 | Skrylar | pupnik: :D |
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| 13:21.49 | Skrylar | Ouch |
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| 13:22.48 | Skrylar | pupnik: Britain wants to charge thousands of dollars to invite family in to the country :/ |
| 13:23.03 | Skrylar | For visits |
| 13:23.39 | giskard | hey |
| 13:23.50 | giskard | do you know when the discount code will be accepted by nokia? |
| 13:24.03 | Veggen | fuck. "repair card" isn't fsck? |
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| 13:32.22 | Veggen | mmf. Internal slot of my card is usable from PC (via usb cable), but not from n800. Anyone seen that before? |
| 13:33.04 | Veggen | it's the slot, not the card. tried switching internal/external card, and several things. things works externally, not in internal slot. |
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| 13:39.18 | fysa | power off/on |
| 13:40.25 | Veggen | removing battery, I guess? |
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| 13:43.17 | Veggen | hmmf, that did it. Why didn't I think of that? (I just turned off/on via menu, although I should know that's not a full reboot) |
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| 13:53.09 | bedboi | is there any gui application to turn on/off usb networking |
| 13:53.11 | bedboi | ? |
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| 13:57.55 | pupnik | bah wrong channel |
| 13:57.57 | pupnik | sorry |
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| 14:04.58 | Rocketman | Got my 810 flashed and reasonably restored |
| 14:05.18 | Rocketman | still working on my 800 |
| 14:05.42 | Rocketman | 3.8 KB/sec |
| 14:06.21 | Rocketman | OS feels much more responsive than that which shipped on my 810 |
| 14:06.42 | Rocketman | Was able to pair my headphones too |
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| 14:07.19 | Rocketman | don't think they are doing a2dp, but wasn't able to pair at all before |
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| 14:10.47 | timeless | jaffa: ping |
| 14:18.57 | melmoth | GRumble... os2008 is released |
| 14:19.11 | melmoth | but i cannot reflash my n800, what am i doing wrong ? |
| 14:19.25 | melmoth | root@satellite:/home/melmoth/tmp/maemo# /home/melmoth/bin/flasher-3.0-static -f -R RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 14:19.28 | melmoth | flasher v0.9.0 (Jan 19 2007) |
| 14:19.30 | melmoth | Suitable USB device not found, waiting |
| 14:19.33 | melmoth | USB device found found at bus 004, device address 013 |
| 14:19.35 | melmoth | Found device RX-34, hardware revision 1301 |
| 14:19.38 | melmoth | NOLO version 1.1.6 |
| 14:19.40 | melmoth | Version of 'sw-release': <no version> |
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| 14:20.44 | Jaffa | timeless: pong |
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| 14:25.36 | timeless | jaffa: /join # please :) |
| 14:25.37 | pupnik | melmoth: what is the problem |
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| 14:28.15 | pupnik | are you referring to me timeless ? |
| 14:28.20 | melmoth | pupnik: wrong md5sum actually |
| 14:28.25 | melmoth | downloading the image again |
| 14:30.16 | sp3000 | melmoth: you're not specifying a fiasco? |
| 14:30.37 | melmoth | thats true too, when i put the -F it complain about wrong size |
| 14:35.21 | timeless | pupnik: doubtful, see server notices |
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| 14:52.54 | L0cutus | someone is using the wireless apple keyboard with n800 ? |
| 14:54.42 | pupnik | "Unfortunately due to the N800's seperate LCD controller it's practically impossible for it to use the powervr mbx." - m03ez |
| 14:56.17 | script | L0cutus: i'm using it w/ 770 |
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| 14:57.39 | L0cutus | script, it is bluetooth right ? |
| 14:57.52 | script | L0cutus: right |
| 14:58.08 | L0cutus | does it work ok ? no problems ? |
| 14:58.15 | script | L0cutus: it works, usual problems ... |
| 14:58.18 | L0cutus | Fn key does work ? |
| 14:58.23 | script | L0cutus: repeating keys etc |
| 14:58.28 | script | L0cutus: what is Fn? |
| 14:58.35 | L0cutus | Function keys |
| 14:58.39 | L0cutus | F1 F2 etc |
| 14:58.41 | script | L0cutus: you mean the hardware-keys? |
| 14:58.45 | L0cutus | yes |
| 14:58.50 | script | L0cutus: those are mapped to F1...F4 iirc |
| 14:59.00 | lardman | pupnik: where was that said? |
| 14:59.01 | L0cutus | hum |
| 14:59.04 | script | zoom, home, etc. |
| 14:59.55 | L0cutus | i have a dell XTBT01, but sometime it 'lost' some key |
| 15:00.21 | script | L0cutus: that happens with the apple keyboard too |
| 15:00.24 | L0cutus | backspace, enter etc sometimes 'dead' |
| 15:00.28 | L0cutus | acc |
| 15:00.50 | L0cutus | if i reboot n800 then they back alive |
| 15:00.55 | script | and i don't think thats a problem on the keyboard side ;) |
| 15:01.11 | L0cutus | don't know if it is a n800 problem or keyboard problem |
| 15:01.56 | script | there are even some bugs on bugzilla concerning the problem iirc |
| 15:02.05 | L0cutus | with os2007 never happens to me... |
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| 15:04.24 | pupnik | lardman: on a youtube video :) |
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| 15:04.58 | pupnik | i wonder if the guy knews what he is talking about :) |
| 15:05.29 | fysa | I believe he's talking out his ass. |
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| 15:08.24 | lardman | pupnik: you have an url for the video? |
| 15:09.09 | fysa | That early mplayer 'note' of the slowness of the video subsystem has been propagated to death and hurt our situation more than the original issue ever would have otherwise. |
| 15:10.07 | lardman | what is the actual bandwidth limit in terms of what resolution at 30fps? |
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| 15:10.40 | lardman | iirc we're not able to achieve that throughput as the video decoding is too slow |
| 15:10.42 | pupnik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUOqR_2sACk |
| 15:10.46 | lardman | thanks |
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| 15:12.15 | lardman | if I were him, I'd get off the tower |
| 15:12.42 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:13.10 | fysa | Either way, I feel pixel doubling is a perfectly acceptable solution given our insanely high dpi. |
| 15:13.24 | pupnik | absolutely! |
| 15:13.30 | lardman | pupnik: you got a login? ask him why he thinks that |
| 15:13.50 | fysa | http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-developers/2007-March/009133.html |
| 15:13.57 | fysa | This is what started it all. |
| 15:14.13 | fysa | These tests need to be rerun on OS2008.. |
| 15:14.57 | lardman | he sent a later email with some figures |
| 15:15.31 | X-Fade | Hmm what is this RX-48? |
| 15:15.42 | lardman | N810? |
| 15:15.47 | lardman | RX-34=N800 |
| 15:15.54 | X-Fade | Isn't that the RX-44 ? |
| 15:16.02 | lardman | oh yes, sorry |
| 15:16.12 | X-Fade | https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/osso-app-killer/src/osso-app-killer-cud.sh |
| 15:16.17 | X-Fade | RX-48 :) |
| 15:16.43 | lardman | mmmm :) |
| 15:16.55 | lardman | if [ "$HW" = 'RX-44' -o "$HW" = 'RX-48' ]; then |
| 15:16.58 | lardman | so not a typo |
| 15:17.18 | X-Fade | No, check the commit message.. |
| 15:17.59 | X-Fade | "added RX-48" |
| 15:18.13 | X-Fade | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.34 | lardman | that's a rather large bug number |
| 15:18.49 | X-Fade | lardman: That is the internal bugzilla. |
| 15:18.58 | lardman | still a big number! |
| 15:18.58 | X-Fade | NB= Nokia Bugzilla.. |
| 15:19.14 | X-Fade | Nah, all bugs these days are that high.. |
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| 15:21.26 | skibur | how can I backup all my programs that i have installed on my OS2008 beta? |
| 15:21.38 | skibur | is there an option? |
| 15:21.44 | Jaffa | X-Fade: don't suppose you could let us know what NB#78472 |
| 15:22.05 | Jaffa | ...is? ;-) |
| 15:22.18 | X-Fade | Jaffa: I'm not a Nokian, so no.. |
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| 15:23.00 | Jaffa | X-Fade: ah, fair enough. |
| 15:23.03 | maddler | skibur: you can use the backup function... :) |
| 15:23.04 | X-Fade | Jaffa: But my guess is: "No support for RX-48 in app killer" :) |
| 15:23.21 | Jaffa | hehe |
| 15:23.25 | lardman | fysa: 800*480*12bit = 560,000bytes. 560,000bytes * 30fps = 16.48Mbytes/s |
| 15:23.26 | skibur | nice |
| 15:23.36 | skibur | how 0.6mb |
| 15:23.54 | skibur | I backup all my stuff, it is only 0.6mb |
| 15:23.57 | Jaffa | That script is very odd. "only remove [.osso] if there is a certain amount of free space [3.5MB]" |
| 15:24.20 | fysa | does it actually back up your programs? or just the packages you have installed and the repos? |
| 15:24.21 | skibur | OS2008!!! |
| 15:24.22 | skibur | wii |
| 15:24.35 | fysa | (the list of packages, I mean) |
| 15:24.47 | skibur | anybody a seed for OS2008 bin? |
| 15:24.52 | Jaffa | fysa: the latter |
| 15:24.57 | Jaffa | skibur: N810 or N800 image? |
| 15:25.10 | skibur | N800 |
| 15:25.24 | fysa | http://labs.mozilla.com/2007/10/prism/ |
| 15:25.31 | fysa | I bet WebRunner/Prism could do some good on our platform. |
| 15:26.06 | fysa | You could distribute site-specific GreaseMonkey and CSS in a bundle. |
| 15:26.15 | fysa | a "GMail" bundle. |
| 15:26.34 | lardman | hmm, shame the Sandvall patch doesn't include anything related to the 16bit byte stuff, and strange that the mailing list entries pointed to by the Tremor wiki page also only mention a few bits |
| 15:27.07 | Jaffa | fysa: Ah, yeah good point - the GreaseMonkey/Stylish type stuff is an obvious one on our platform. |
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| 15:28.42 | czr | hey lardman |
| 15:28.50 | lardman | hi czr |
| 15:29.04 | fysa | I didn't see much point of WebRunner elsewhere, but some popular sites could become much more useful with 'treatment.' -- i.e, instead of requiring apps to use a special API like WebKit (which would never happen), we prepare an environment to make client-side modification of the web app/site as easy as possible. |
| 15:29.57 | Jaffa | fysa: a very neat idea; especially if combined with Google Gears or the Firefox 3 local storage stuff. |
| 15:29.58 | fysa | drop them in like distributable bookmarks. |
| 15:30.12 | Jaffa | Has microb got any of the local storage API stuff? |
| 15:30.23 | fysa | don't know, I'm just getting into microb more now. |
| 15:31.36 | fysa | final OS2008 comes with a reasonable microb updated it looks like (0.1.x.x to 0.2.x?) |
| 15:31.44 | dpb_ | Jaffa: well atleast it's based on the same source tree.. |
| 15:31.45 | fysa | update, rather |
| 15:32.11 | fysa | would have to talk to timeless about it. |
| 15:32.39 | fysa | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS8360022837.html |
| 15:34.31 | Jaffa | dpb_: yeah, might be very interesting to combine those features with site-specific greasemonkey/css designed for the small screen with a WebRunner-type thing, as fysa suggests. |
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| 15:34.58 | dpb_ | yeah |
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| 15:37.33 | wald0 | anybody has the md5 of 2.2007.50-2 ? |
| 15:37.42 | lardman | hmm, no derf |
| 15:38.18 | melmoth | 89e0661318f60420c691f4e1dd0c6ba3 RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 15:38.35 | melmoth | see MD5SUMS file :) |
| 15:38.52 | wald0 | thanks :) |
| 15:39.06 | wald0 | melmoth: the server is VERY slow, and actually it timeouts giving me the md5 lol |
| 15:39.08 | melmoth | i have been trying/failed to donwload it for an hour or 2 now |
| 15:39.35 | wald0 | melmoth: i have a external download found on google: http://repo.noneus.de/RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
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| 15:39.43 | wald0 | melmoth: this is why i wanted the md5 ;) |
| 15:39.48 | melmoth | hmmm. |
| 15:39.55 | skibur | What is microB? |
| 15:40.03 | czr | a very small b |
| 15:40.06 | skibur | I normally just open the browser and surf |
| 15:40.14 | skibur | o ok |
| 15:40.19 | skibur | lol dumb me |
| 15:40.22 | skibur | microB |
| 15:40.32 | wald0 | microb is on the system of 2008 ? |
| 15:40.36 | wald0 | by default* |
| 15:40.40 | tontsa | microB is the name for slimmed down gecko engine |
| 15:40.40 | skibur | Opera Family? |
| 15:40.48 | tontsa | mozilla |
| 15:40.51 | skibur | ok |
| 15:41.18 | tontsa | gonna flash RX-44_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin as soon as the thingie has charged battery full |
| 15:41.22 | tontsa | came pretty fast |
| 15:42.14 | tontsa | ohh.. you can't use the windows update utility for this, aargh |
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| 15:42.52 | wald0 | mankod: no sabÃa que tenias un n800 :) |
| 15:43.28 | mankod | wald0, who are you ? |
| 15:43.36 | wald0 | mankod: thana camuflado |
| 15:43.45 | mankod | wald0, :O |
| 15:43.49 | wald0 | xD |
| 15:43.51 | mankod | wald0, a pues como ves que si :D |
| 15:43.59 | wald0 | how are you mankod ? :) |
| 15:44.12 | mankod | mankos is mankos, are you now :D |
| 15:44.16 | mankod | *mankod |
| 15:46.47 | wald0 | how i upgrade the firmware ? i don't remember... any link ? i have the flasher-3.0 to upgrade my n800 to 2.2007.50-2 |
| 15:48.37 | lardman | search the maemo.org wiki for "flasher" |
| 15:48.48 | wald0 | |]/stmp[| md5sum RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 15:48.49 | wald0 | 89e0661318f60420c691f4e1dd0c6ba3 RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 15:48.56 | wald0 | melmoth: seems to be correct :) |
| 15:49.06 | wald0 | thx lardman |
| 15:50.20 | skibur | I need a torrent on N800 - OS2008 |
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| 15:57.50 | wald0 | skibur: im going to put the image on my server... |
| 15:59.17 | tontsa | whee. 50-2 booted succesfully atleast, forgot to make backup though :P |
| 15:59.37 | tontsa | let's see if bluetooth works any better |
| 15:59.59 | fysa | is there a method for apt-get upgrade? |
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| 16:01.42 | lardman | does anyone understand the Tremor bitwise.c code? |
| 16:01.51 | lardman | http://svn.xiph.org/branches/lowmem-no-byte/Tremor/bitwise.c |
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| 16:10.16 | lardman | you can carry on talking you know |
| 16:10.23 | lardman | don't mind me ;) |
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| 16:14.39 | tontsa | application manager atleast sucks, it's downloading (refreshing) the repos, but gets always stuck after few kilobytes. the sucky part is that you can't know what repo is causing it |
| 16:15.10 | lardman | tontsa: there's a log |
| 16:15.16 | lardman | look in the menus |
| 16:15.52 | tontsa | oh cool. repository.maemo.org |
| 16:15.58 | X-Fade | tontsa: Everybody is restoring their tablets.. |
| 16:16.17 | solmumaha | maybe in 10 hours... :( |
| 16:16.21 | skibur | Nokia Internet Tablet Software Update Wizard 2007 ok to use for OS2008? N800? |
| 16:17.16 | tontsa | i used something like that, dunno was it called 2007 though for N810 |
| 16:17.35 | skibur | o ok |
| 16:18.18 | tontsa | how do you gainroot on this new one |
| 16:18.47 | Jaffa | Install becomeroot, `sudo gainroot'. Bosh. |
| 16:18.59 | Jaffa | becomeroot is nice and in a repo, so it should be maintained across reflashes too |
| 16:19.09 | tontsa | yeah would install if i could get any repos working :) |
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| 16:20.35 | dragorn | if you set it to r&d mode with the flasher you can just do sudo gainroot natively |
| 16:20.51 | wald0 | How i flash n800 to 2008 WITHOUT remove my personal boot loader ? (i have other system on my mmc card), i want to save my loader |
| 16:21.07 | tontsa | there's no switch in the windows flasher and i'm too lazy right now to boot some linux livecd |
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| 16:23.18 | Khertan_TheReal | Hi |
| 16:23.43 | kulve | wald0: since the bootloader might included fixes, I recommend flashing it too |
| 16:24.15 | skibur | how big is the N810 bin file? |
| 16:24.18 | skibur | 134mb? |
| 16:24.22 | wald0 | well, ok |
| 16:24.28 | wald0 | skibur: aprox, yes |
| 16:24.45 | skibur | what about N800? |
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| 16:28.01 | tontsa | 141227980 bytes with 25292105f0769680828ea2ccd36d6807 md5 (N810) |
| 16:29.21 | kulve | skibur: maybe you should unpack it and compare the components.. (depending of course why you are comparing them..) |
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| 16:29.38 | ph|ber | anyone using an 810? |
| 16:30.17 | tontsa | i am |
| 16:30.27 | ph|ber | what all have you installed to it? |
| 16:30.36 | ph|ber | mine will be here today.. just wondering. |
| 16:30.47 | tontsa | nothing at the moment, just flashed it to new version that was released today |
| 16:31.01 | ph|ber | sweet.. is that on maemo.org? |
| 16:31.06 | tontsa | yeah |
| 16:31.14 | tontsa | bluetooth seems to work better atleast |
| 16:31.20 | ph|ber | cool |
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| 16:32.51 | pupnik | wb Tak |
| 16:33.02 | Thanatermesis | is microb the new browser of 2008 by default ? |
| 16:33.14 | Tak | pupnik: thanks |
| 16:33.16 | pupnik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUOqR_2sACk unique311 built a new emu tak |
| 16:33.17 | tontsa | yes |
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| 16:34.05 | Tak | uhh - isn't that video on an n82? |
| 16:34.24 | Tak | or was the link unrelated to the comment? |
| 16:35.46 | ph|ber | my phone is the n95 |
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| 16:37.16 | pupnik | sorry |
| 16:37.37 | pupnik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKGmOjeAm2Y neopop emu |
| 16:39.51 | Tak | hmm - is that significantly different than gngeo? |
| 16:40.44 | pupnik | i haven't looked at it yet |
| 16:41.46 | Tak | hahaha..."The decision to ship American games in cardboard boxes..." |
| 16:42.11 | unique311 | pupnik |
| 16:42.16 | unique311 | just woke up |
| 16:42.36 | unique311 | http://www.nih.at/NeoPop-SDL/neopoprc-fm.html |
| 16:42.50 | pupnik | right after i mentioned neopop you showed up |
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| 16:43.05 | unique311 | good stuff |
| 16:43.28 | Tak | yay @ directive error |
| 16:43.42 | unique311 | i was responding to a message for the video. |
| 16:43.49 | Tak | so - is that significantly different than gngeo? |
| 16:43.51 | Thanatermesis | what is the default browser on the last firmware update ? |
| 16:44.06 | unique311 | gngeo wont compile |
| 16:45.05 | unique311 | neopop actually does, with no issues. and runs games at good speeds. |
| 16:45.43 | Tak | hmm, I was almost positive I got gngeo to build |
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| 16:45.57 | Tak | well - do they support significantly different sets of games, or not really? |
| 16:46.37 | unique311 | gngeo also looks like the system.. |
| 16:47.16 | unique311 | neopop is the pocket version, like a gameboy. |
| 16:47.30 | Tak | yeah |
| 16:47.59 | unique311 | but if you got that working, can i get a binary...would like to play that. |
| 16:48.15 | Tak | but it looks like ngpocket had a subset of ng games |
| 16:48.39 | Tak | so I'm wondering if neopop is significantly faster, ec |
| 16:48.44 | Tak | s/ec/etc/ |
| 16:48.49 | Thanatermesis | how dosbox works ? |
| 16:49.55 | unique311 | tak with graphics size set to default 1 before compiling it...35fps max. |
| 16:50.33 | unique311 | i compile it with graphics size set to triple |
| 16:51.43 | unique311 | which slows down fps, but then i up'ed the frameskip. which helps alot. |
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| 16:54.05 | liia | how do you type pipe in n810 xterm? |
| 16:54.26 | Tak | it's in the third tab in the default en_US kb |
| 16:54.35 | penguinbait | is it next week yet? |
| 16:54.59 | X-Fade | penguinbait: nope.. |
| 16:55.22 | penguinbait | :( will it really be this week? |
| 16:55.41 | Tak | fuck, I can't build gngeo anymore - it used to build |
| 16:55.47 | X-Fade | penguinbait: I think that all depends on the people operating the online shops ;) |
| 16:55.48 | penguinbait | I feel like a kid, and christmas keeps changing dates :) |
| 16:56.09 | unique311 | wont build in chinook also. |
| 16:56.17 | Thanatermesis | WTF ? i had see a "video converter" on my n800 with chinook and when i try to install it, it try's to download a .exe lol |
| 16:56.58 | fnordage_ | hi all. what do I need to do to update scratchbox for the latest build? "apt-get dist-upgrade" perhaps? |
| 16:56.58 | Atraii | Thanatermesis thats for windows |
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| 16:58.32 | Thanatermesis | Atraii, what's windows ? |
| 16:58.34 | penguinbait | Are there any games for nokia that would use joystick support, I have my usb wifi logitech rumblepad working but no apps to use it with |
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| 16:59.29 | penguinbait | will quake1 use hid joysticks? |
| 17:00.15 | Thanatermesis | penguinbait, the OS use joystick, not the games, the OS needs to detect it like a joystick, simply |
| 17:00.48 | penguinbait | so do games, the OS sees it fine, but nothing is using /dev/input/js1 |
| 17:01.01 | penguinbait | If I test in KDE its all working |
| 17:01.14 | penguinbait | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13324 |
| 17:02.00 | Thanatermesis | penguinbait, try ln -s /dev/input/js1 /dev/js1 |
| 17:02.00 | penguinbait | Quake2 should work, but I would have to manually add the bunding, which I need to figure out, I wish quetoo had the menus |
| 17:02.10 | Thanatermesis | some games try to access at the old device tree system |
| 17:02.15 | Atraii | bomberman wud be good |
| 17:02.33 | penguinbait | You still need something to map the inputs to keys or use the inputs direct |
| 17:02.46 | penguinbait | I did notice using the buttons, unblanks the screen |
| 17:03.29 | penguinbait | s/bunding/binding/ |
| 17:06.35 | Tak | penguinbait: xmame? |
| 17:07.47 | penguinbait | joy2key should do the trick, but xmame might also work |
| 17:10.16 | solmumaha | yay, eta only 5 days, can get it flashed before christmas |
| 17:11.35 | Tak | aha, got it built |
| 17:11.51 | unique311 | ? |
| 17:11.53 | unique311 | gngeo |
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| 17:13.13 | fnordage_ | so, will an "apt-get dist-upgrade" bring my chinook target up to date in scratchbox, or do i need to do something else? |
| 17:13.15 | Tak | yes. |
| 17:13.33 | Tak | with the cyclone and drz80 core |
| 17:14.10 | Tak | it runs, at least the help message - I'll send you the package for more extensive testing, if you'd like |
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| 17:14.43 | unique311 | ya...send it. |
| 17:15.12 | elpaso | Hi all, I'm figthing with latest 0s2008 on N800. Incredibly, I cannot kill a process as root |
| 17:15.39 | Tak | heh, what process? |
| 17:15.47 | elpaso | maemo-mapper |
| 17:15.57 | elpaso | it hangs |
| 17:16.13 | elpaso | killall -9 maemo-mapper don't work |
| 17:16.21 | elpaso | kill -9 pid neither |
| 17:16.31 | nomis | well, then it probably is zombified. |
| 17:16.44 | elpaso | need and exorcist? |
| 17:17.00 | nomis | elpaso: "reboot" is a pretty good exorcist :) |
| 17:17.05 | elpaso | :) |
| 17:17.07 | fnordage_ | shoot the device? |
| 17:17.10 | pyhimys | 3 ave marias, and reboot should do it |
| 17:17.11 | skibur | Is it safe to use restore from OS2008 Beta to Official OS2008? |
| 17:17.44 | pyhimys | skibur just trying to do it |
| 17:18.19 | pyhimys | so far the application manager updates repositories |
| 17:18.31 | skibur | I am, but it seems to freeze when It is trying to restore apps |
| 17:18.33 | pyhimys | has been for 30 minutes(?) so far |
| 17:18.44 | skibur | yeah |
| 17:18.49 | pyhimys | skibur: sounds familiar :) |
| 17:18.50 | elpaso | another question while rebooting... I've uploaded tuxpaint in extra-devel chinook but nothing happened, shall I do something in order to push it in extra repository? |
| 17:19.12 | tontsa | yeah some repos are impossible to get.. like the one that has becomeroot |
| 17:19.13 | skibur | Downloading 6kb... It has been like that for about 5+mins |
| 17:19.27 | pyhimys | skibur: maybe the repositories are just hammered at the moment |
| 17:19.41 | skibur | o ok |
| 17:19.46 | skibur | lol |
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| 17:20.13 | skibur | I guess I just try later |
| 17:20.15 | pyhimys | everyone and their friends are updating at the moment |
| 17:20.19 | tontsa | they should have released 800 and 810 images on seperate days :) |
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| 17:20.42 | solmumaha | or maybe get some more bandwidth |
| 17:20.47 | fnordage_ | hello. |
| 17:20.55 | lopz | hola |
| 17:20.59 | elpaso | hi |
| 17:21.15 | tontsa | or get those maemo repos atleast on debian's mirroring system |
| 17:21.18 | fnordage_ | so, how do i upgrade scratchbox to match chinook |
| 17:21.25 | solmumaha | my image is almost here, only 3 days left |
| 17:21.35 | tontsa | which image are you after |
| 17:21.43 | solmumaha | n800 |
| 17:21.50 | tontsa | oh.. i'd have 810 |
| 17:21.55 | fnordage_ | i have the indt vmware vm, and am wondering if "apt-get dist-upgrade" will do the trick |
| 17:22.09 | milhouse | xterm is still as crap as ever... why didn't they just ship the version we know and love rather than tinker with it and balls it up? ho hum. bah humbug. |
| 17:23.16 | Thanatermesis | what is the default browser on chinook ? |
| 17:23.22 | milhouse | microb |
| 17:23.28 | milhouse | there is not other choice |
| 17:23.32 | milhouse | s/not/no/ |
| 17:23.54 | fnordage_ | ok. if my last question was too hard, can someone remind me where to put fonts on the n800. i have the google android ones, which are nice, but can't remember where to put them. |
| 17:24.08 | sp3000 | surely someone has made a lynx/links package |
| 17:24.16 | tontsa | /usr/share/fonts and reboot |
| 17:24.35 | milhouse | sp3000: there may have been a version of lynx knocking about for os2007 |
| 17:24.36 | Thanatermesis | milhouse, microb sounds good :) since i can use google services... on opera i can't click on the "items" ! |
| 17:24.54 | milhouse | opera? never heard of it :) |
| 17:25.11 | Thanatermesis | heh |
| 17:25.19 | fnordage_ | tontsa: thanks |
| 17:25.19 | Thanatermesis | well, ppl says that opera is very good |
| 17:25.37 | tontsa | i'm very happy with this os update, bluetooth is finally rock solid |
| 17:25.53 | tontsa | has been up already over 45mins.. before it was just 10-15mins max |
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| 17:26.45 | milhouse | think i might put mine away for the night - updating the catalogues in app manager has already taken almost 10 minutes and not completed... installing applications will be very, very painful |
| 17:27.17 | tontsa | i just wanna get openssh or the becomeroot package so i can install fonts |
| 17:27.27 | Inil | i want install maemo on my n75, i can do it? |
| 17:27.36 | tontsa | inil, dream on |
| 17:27.41 | milhouse | inil: unlikely... |
| 17:29.12 | fnordage_ | tontsa: r&d mode? |
| 17:29.22 | timeless | lardman: nokia's bugnumbers are small when compared to mozilla.org, redhat and sun |
| 17:29.23 | timeless | or apple |
| 17:29.47 | tontsa | fnordage_, i'm stuck with windows laptop right now, so no way to flash with options |
| 17:29.52 | timeless | anyone know why repository.maemo.org is very slow right now? |
| 17:30.03 | deejoe | because OS2008 was just released? |
| 17:30.05 | timeless | lardman: and nokia is artifically inflating its bug numbers |
| 17:30.12 | tontsa | timeless, timeouts for me. can get about 1KB and then nothing |
| 17:30.15 | fnordage_ | yeah. I'm DDOSing it ;-) |
| 17:30.30 | timeless | deejoe: hrm, but it's a different server, no? |
| 17:30.40 | deejoe | dunno |
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| 17:30.54 | deejoe | then again, maybe folks are flashing then hitting the repo for fun stuff |
| 17:31.23 | tontsa | maemo extras or extras-devel doesn't respond either |
| 17:31.49 | timeless | deejoe: yeah |
| 17:31.57 | timeless | tontsa: it's the same box, they wouldn't |
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| 17:32.05 | tontsa | oh ok |
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| 17:32.11 | timeless | i'm trying to write an email to maemo-devel w/ a url into the repository |
| 17:32.14 | timeless | but um,... kinda hard |
| 17:32.36 | tontsa | i guess next step is to set up mirrors |
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| 17:32.52 | timeless | not sure how doable that is |
| 17:32.58 | timeless | some of the nokia stuff isn't mirrorable |
| 17:33.01 | Ini2 | milhouse: impassible? |
| 17:33.02 | timeless | although i'd hope that the repo is |
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| 17:34.57 | tontsa | ohh repos started to respond |
| 17:36.06 | sp3000 | timely, rmo isn't slow for me |
| 17:36.56 | milhouse | Ini2: impossible to install maemo on an n75? i've no idea if the n75 is remotely compatible (OMAP1 or OMAP2?) but chances are it would take a lot of effort - screen resolution could confuse a lot of apps assuming you did get it working |
| 17:37.26 | murrayc_ | not gonna happen. |
| 17:37.47 | Ini2 | milhouse: n76 |
| 17:38.45 | tontsa | oh the new openssh package doesn't ask what to set up as root password.. wonder what's the default one |
| 17:39.51 | czr | rootme is the default one |
| 17:40.10 | czr | but the root account is disabled unless you have enabled r&d mode |
| 17:40.34 | czr | there are many ways to go around this (check the maemo-devel list for the past week for one package that doesn't require too much hacking) |
| 17:40.48 | tontsa | yep.. last time the openssh install asked what to put as root password so everything was ok |
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| 17:44.10 | Ini2 | milhouse: thx a lot. |
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| 17:47.31 | Thanatermesis | I can "call" from my n800 (chinook) to a normal computer (linux) ? |
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| 17:50.18 | melmoth | i give up, i ll download the image another day :-( |
| 17:51.06 | |R | hehe 12k/sec here... and falling... |
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| 17:52.27 | milhouse | excellent - the rss icons on maemo.org don't work in the latest os 2008... doesn't anyone test this crap? |
| 17:52.41 | melmoth | i have been waiting for weeks, i can still wait a couple of days :) |
| 17:53.50 | Mekin | melmoth: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13344 there might be alternative ways to download |
| 17:55.03 | Thanatermesis | melmoth, |R, the mirror that i have posted before is OK, the md5 is correct (imposible to modify it from the original one), and actually im working on this upgrade without problems (im wald0) |
| 17:55.25 | melmoth | i m too paranoid for this. |
| 17:55.39 | Thanatermesis | yes, "too" is the word then |
| 17:55.58 | Thanatermesis | on the md5, if you modify ONLY one bit, the md5 turns TOTALLY different |
| 17:56.11 | mgedmin | don't you know that md5 has been broken <dramatic music> |
| 17:56.12 | Thanatermesis | the md5 code is from maemo server, then is the original number |
| 17:56.14 | tontsa | so any ideas how to get RD mode activated without using linux flasher? (or get openssh-server install package ask for root password :)) |
| 17:56.45 | |R | unless you have a good md5 attack tool i guess hehe but thanks (where is that mirror? Though i have to leave now so i'm in no hurry , but for others...) |
| 17:56.50 | elpaso | tontsa: need becomeroot? |
| 17:57.08 | tontsa | elpaso, can't find it in any chinook repo |
| 17:57.21 | Thanatermesis | http://repo.noneus.de/RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 17:57.23 | elpaso | I found it on eko.pl |
| 17:57.30 | Thanatermesis | im working from this firmware now |
| 17:57.30 | |R | thx :) |
| 17:57.46 | Thanatermesis | and i don't see any problem on the system so far :) |
| 17:58.28 | |R | Good, i was waiting for a final before reinstalling everything :) |
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| 17:58.58 | Thanatermesis | is a PITA to reconfigure again all the system :/ |
| 17:59.40 | |R | yeah |
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| 18:01.10 | deckel | anybody with a URL for todays OS update for N810? Got mine today and would like to update before I do much configuration. |
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| 18:02.23 | tontsa | i have the image, i can ftp it to you if you /msg with details |
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| 18:06.22 | Thanatermesis | its possible to use the google-talk app for linux too ? (i mean, port it to x86 in a debian system) |
| 18:10.07 | Thanatermesis | osso-voip-ui, mmmh... |
| 18:10.12 | Thanatermesis | osso apps are the GPL ones ? |
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| 18:20.58 | Thanatermesis | what are the "extra" repositories for chinook ? |
| 18:21.02 | gomiam | mmm... quick question. tablets-dev.nokia.com won't let me get the new image. Is somebody else having the same problem? |
| 18:21.16 | Thanatermesis | gomiam, firmware ? |
| 18:21.24 | gomiam | Thanatermesis: yup |
| 18:21.41 | gomiam | I wanted to update my N800 |
| 18:22.02 | gomiam | and didn't start it yesterday evening because I was at home |
| 18:22.02 | Thanatermesis | gomiam, the server is very slow, you can use a alternative mirror if you have confiance on the md5 of the file that's the same at the original one :P |
| 18:22.17 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> http://repo.noneus.de/RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 18:22.19 | gomiam | alternative mirrors available at... |
| 18:22.27 | Thanatermesis | what about include that on the topic ? :) lol |
| 18:23.33 | gomiam | downloading... |
| 18:23.34 | timeless | um |
| 18:23.38 | timeless | don't mirror that file |
| 18:23.49 | timeless | you're asking for nokia's lawyers to send you a nasty-gram |
| 18:24.20 | gomiam | wait a couple of minutes until I finish downloading it XD |
| 18:24.27 | timeless | delete the file now |
| 18:24.32 | timeless | the os will keep a handle for gomiam |
| 18:24.34 | Thanatermesis | timeless, then request to nokia to use better servers :P |
| 18:24.45 | timeless | thanatermesis: complain to nokia cares |
| 18:24.54 | gomiam | by the way, Thanatermesis, where are you located? |
| 18:24.55 | timeless | that's the only channel i know of that might work |
| 18:25.00 | Thanatermesis | gomiam, spain |
| 18:25.04 | gomiam | ah, entonces ni caso |
| 18:25.21 | Thanatermesis | timeless, well, i would like but... i don't have time for things like that |
| 18:25.50 | Thanatermesis | and i don't think that violates any law since don't has any modification |
| 18:26.15 | timeless | thanatermesis: i had a large organization w/ a large pipe asking to mirror |
| 18:26.19 | gomiam | Thanatermesis: it all hinges on whether Nokia's Terms Of Use allow redistirbution. |
| 18:26.24 | milhouse | mirroring the file would relieve some of the load on nokias clearly inadequate servers/bandwidth/infrastructure so anyone who mirrors would be doing nokia a big favour. |
| 18:26.25 | wumpus | everyone can download it anyway, so why would it matter if you mirror it :') |
| 18:26.27 | timeless | and in no uncertain terms were told not to |
| 18:26.49 | gomiam | wumpus: because _not_ everyone can download it. It's not answering right now |
| 18:26.52 | milhouse | just trying to isntall skype here, it's a waste of time - been trying to download 1kb for 5 minutes |
| 18:27.05 | timeless | milhouse: it's better for nokia's servers to fail |
| 18:27.12 | timeless | and log the amount of unhappy requests |
| 18:27.23 | timeless | by mirroring you reduce the number of unhappys |
| 18:27.26 | wumpus | gomiam: I know, I mean why would nokia be against mirroring if everyone is allowed to have the file anyway |
| 18:27.40 | timeless | which reduces the groups' ability to make a proper resource request |
| 18:27.43 | milhouse | timeless: this happened last time, didn't anyone notice at Nokia HQ? |
| 18:27.49 | wumpus | so we should increase the number of unhappys? |
| 18:27.51 | wumpus | no problem :) |
| 18:28.04 | timeless | milhouse: dunno, i'm not at all connected to hq |
| 18:28.08 | gomiam | timeless: I find your definition of "better" hazy at best, more even so after reading milhouse's comments. |
| 18:28.48 | timeless | gomiam: *shrug*, the group i proxied has lots of bandwidth and a mirror network, i relayed the request and got the answer |
| 18:28.51 | milhouse | timeless: reporting problems to nokia is of questionable benefit, at best. just look at maemo bugzilla as a case in point. |
| 18:28.57 | timeless | and the answer came w/ an expanation |
| 18:29.09 | timeless | milhouse: which bugs? |
| 18:29.24 | milhouse | those that never get fixed from one version of firmware to the next |
| 18:29.36 | gomiam | could I see the explanation please? (at least the publishable part, that is) |
| 18:30.00 | timeless | gomiam: i got the response orally, but i believe the short answer is on the tablet-devs page that i can't load :) |
| 18:30.12 | gomiam | XD |
| 18:30.23 | gomiam | woe is me XD |
| 18:31.13 | gomiam | something about "putting all eggs in the same basket" comes to mind |
| 18:31.34 | timeless | gomiam: nah |
| 18:31.41 | timeless | there are 3 or 4 baskets |
| 18:31.49 | Thanatermesis | what is the root password of chinook ? |
| 18:31.50 | timeless | they are just all very small |
| 18:32.06 | Tak | also, nokia has switched to egg substitute |
| 18:32.09 | timeless | thanatermesis: |
| 18:32.10 | timeless | http://timeless.justdave.net/maemo/capture-root-0.1.deb |
| 18:32.16 | timeless | tak++ |
| 18:32.17 | Thanatermesis | thx |
| 18:32.27 | Tak | haha |
| 18:32.36 | timeless | thanatermesis: the root password is still rootme, but unless you enable r&d mode, it's useless |
| 18:32.48 | timeless | that package lets you setup ssh to root w/o enabling r&d mode |
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| 18:33.23 | Thanatermesis | timeless, what exactly do enable the R&D mode ? |
| 18:33.24 | timeless | (course, if you can't install ssh, i suppose that could be a problem) |
| 18:33.39 | timeless | thanatermesis: i wouldn't know, i never do it |
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| 18:33.52 | |tbb| | hi all, what about a2dp support right now, does it work with the latest rls of os2008 |
| 18:33.55 | Thanatermesis | btw, i can set a FIXED ip to my n800 house-wifi network ? i turn crazy everytime i want to ssh on it |
| 18:33.59 | timeless | and whenever anyone does it to my device, i demand they undo it when they're done |
| 18:34.17 | gomiam | Thanatermesis: it would be supposed to allow you tu su to root, and also USB networking |
| 18:34.21 | gomiam | Thanatermesis: of course |
| 18:34.24 | timeless | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=667 |
| 18:34.40 | timeless | => |tbb| |
| 18:34.46 | gomiam | oncce you have your network configuration basics set up, go to Control Panel and Networks |
| 18:35.14 | gomiam | pretty colors, pretty colors, yay! |
| 18:35.15 | gomiam | XD |
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| 18:35.55 | Thanatermesis | su to root ? mmh... that's very good |
| 18:35.57 | timeless | you could also setup a better dhcp server, but yeah, it's not very hard to do from connection manager or whatever |
| 18:36.04 | Thanatermesis | what you mean per usb networking ? |
| 18:36.33 | gomiam | you can connect the N800 to a PC and use the USB connection to set a LAN |
| 18:36.49 | gomiam | so the PC could act as a router for the N800 |
| 18:36.53 | gomiam | (and perhaps viceversa) |
| 18:36.59 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 18:37.14 | Thanatermesis | and how the PC manages this connection ? needs to have a "service" running ? |
| 18:37.14 | timeless | thanatermesis: just worry about setting up the fixed ip address stuff first |
| 18:37.31 | gomiam | Thanatermesis: you would use the Share connection option |
| 18:37.45 | gomiam | so it would act as a router, but I've never tried it, actually |
| 18:37.46 | Thanatermesis | share connection ? |
| 18:38.05 | Thanatermesis | timeless, where ? in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 18:38.19 | gomiam | Thanatermesis: no, use the interface |
| 18:38.31 | timeless | gomaim: give him specific steps |
| 18:38.40 | gomiam | I gather you already have OS2008. |
| 18:39.12 | gomiam | Click on the four-dot icon, select "Ajustes" and then "Panel de control" |
| 18:39.19 | gomiam | (you got it in Spanish, right?)= |
| 18:39.43 | Thanatermesis | yep, let me see |
| 18:40.17 | gomiam | Then "Connectivity" ("Conectividad") |
| 18:40.50 | gomiam | to open the connection manager, and then "Connections" ("Conexiones") to open your known connections list. |
| 18:41.01 | Thanatermesis | oh.. i found it, thx :) |
| 18:41.11 | gomiam | ok, so you know the rest of the way |
| 18:41.16 | |tbb| | timeless: thanks for the link, ive uncomment the line, long time ago but i still get no stereo sound on my a2dp headphone from motrolla ;( |
| 18:41.22 | gomiam | you are welcome |
| 18:41.49 | gomiam | Thanatermesis: do you read my query? |
| 18:42.24 | |tbb| | anyone knows if it is possible to make a call from n810 to n800 with an adhoc connection for using it as a babyphone for example |
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| 18:43.01 | timeless | |tbb| the comment says you'd need to do a lot more than just changing one line |
| 18:43.15 | timeless | from talking to him, he basically explained what's written in that comment |
| 18:43.26 | timeless | namely to get it working fully they need to do some magic w/ the mixer |
| 18:43.34 | timeless | but they are working on it |
| 18:43.42 | timeless | of course, they can't give commitments to dates |
| 18:43.49 | timeless | and i certainly can't since i'm not related to that project |
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| 18:45.27 | timeless | gah |
| 18:46.15 | |tbb| | k hope the will release it soon, tbb thinks to replace his autoradio with n800 |
| 18:46.18 | timeless | can someone help me try to edit http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/Audio ? |
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| 18:48.06 | timeless | tak: so, where's the edit button? |
| 18:48.36 | Tak | it looks like they have editing turned off for un-logged-in users |
| 18:48.44 | timeless | logged in as timeless |
| 18:48.48 | timeless | where's the edit button :) |
| 18:49.38 | Tak | I dunno; I'm not logged in :-P |
| 18:49.52 | timeless | where should it be? :) |
| 18:50.46 | |tbb| | anyone knows if its possible to make a call from n810 to n800 with an adhoc connection? |
| 18:50.51 | Tak | should be at the bottom |
| 18:51.59 | Tak | http://wiki.bluez.org/wiki/Audio?action=edit |
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| 18:52.38 | Tak | |tbb|: do the calls connect through a central server, or no? |
| 18:53.04 | |tbb| | not through a server |
| 18:53.17 | |tbb| | connection only between to devices |
| 18:53.50 | |tbb| | using it as babyphone, spycam whatever |
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| 18:55.44 | Vudentz_ | timeless, what do you want to change in bluez wiki? |
| 18:57.07 | timeless | vudentz: spellings mostly |
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| 18:58.09 | timeless | alsa=>ALSA, plugin=>plug-in, acheive=>achieve, enconding=>encoding, subdirectory=>sub-directory, Handsfree=>Hands-Free |
| 18:58.13 | Vudentz_ | timeless, can you post the change you want, if they are big use a pastebin site |
| 18:58.46 | timeless | sure |
| 18:58.56 | timeless | diff form or just raw inline changes so you can diff? |
| 18:58.59 | Tak | does the ?action=edit link give you a permission error message? |
| 18:59.11 | Thanatermesis | timeless, i have installed capture-root, how i use it ? |
| 18:59.20 | Thanatermesis | i mean, in what consists ? i dont remember it |
| 18:59.25 | Vudentz_ | timeless, just raw inline is good enough |
| 18:59.38 | timeless | thanatermesis: it only lets you install if you have a ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 18:59.54 | timeless | once you've installed, you can ssh to root@device using any key that was accepted by that file |
| 19:00.04 | timeless | 403 Forbidden (WIKI_MODIFY privileges are required to perform this operation) |
| 19:01.23 | gomiam | this penguin goes back home to keep fiddling with his Tablet |
| 19:01.46 | Vudentz_ | we changed the wiki so only admins can edit it, there were some users abusing it |
| 19:01.52 | gomiam | have fun. |
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| 19:03.21 | Olof | does anyone have a download link for the latest firmware? |
| 19:03.27 | Olof | nokias server seems down.. |
| 19:03.41 | gomiam | Olof: it doesn't seem to. It is |
| 19:03.45 | gomiam | overwhelmed at least |
| 19:03.52 | Olof | gomiam: ok :/ |
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| 19:04.12 | Olof | if someone would get me the firmware i could put it a my server |
| 19:04.23 | Olof | at* |
| 19:04.25 | gomiam | there are some unofficial mirrors, but it would seem Nokia doesn't like that. |
| 19:04.47 | Olof | wouldnt care less about what nokia thinks |
| 19:05.09 | Olof | if they cant keep their own servers running its just nice that someone else are helping with that |
| 19:05.25 | timeless | vudentz_: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/270392 |
| 19:05.28 | tontsa | which firmware are you after |
| 19:05.36 | Olof | tontsa: the latest for N800 |
| 19:05.41 | Thanatermesis | what is the extra lines for sources.list of 2008 ? |
| 19:05.44 | timeless | (raw "text" version is at the bottom |
| 19:05.49 | tontsa | oh. i just have 810 |
| 19:05.55 | timeless | note that because i can't edit it, i can't get the wikiversion |
| 19:05.57 | Olof | tontsa: ok :/, thanks anyway |
| 19:06.06 | gomiam | tontsa: they're the same, AFAIK |
| 19:06.08 | timeless | so what i have is what gecko converted the wiki into when i select all/copied |
| 19:06.12 | tontsa | gomian, they aren't |
| 19:06.20 | gomiam | tontsa: oh, ok. |
| 19:06.25 | tontsa | atleast md5sums differ |
| 19:06.56 | gomiam | Thanatermesis: extra is the repository for maemo.org, IIRC |
| 19:07.20 | gomiam | I'll have a look at it later at home, anyway |
| 19:07.21 | gomiam | have fun |
| 19:07.39 | Thanatermesis | i mean unnoficial, i want to install ssh |
| 19:07.44 | Thanatermesis | and be f*** root |
| 19:07.59 | timeless | the default repos include ssh as an installable |
| 19:08.22 | timeless | http://timeless.justdave.net/mxr-test/chinook/find?string=ssh.*debian/control |
| 19:08.26 | timeless | /openssh-3.8p1/debian/control |
| 19:08.36 | Thanatermesis | i don't see anything on that Packages manager GUI |
| 19:08.44 | Thanatermesis | only 6 packages available to install |
| 19:09.08 | timeless | hrm |
| 19:09.20 | timeless | that'd suck |
| 19:09.23 | timeless | ok, i'm going |
| 19:11.01 | Thanatermesis | [sbox-CHINOOK_ARMEL: ~] > apt-build world |
| 19:11.01 | Thanatermesis | bash: apt-build: command not found |
| 19:11.02 | Thanatermesis | =) |
| 19:11.39 | Thanatermesis | ok... well, how i be root ? |
| 19:11.51 | Tak | hmm, is there a way to clone an sqlite3* instance? |
| 19:12.01 | skibur | what kinda of update is OS2008? |
| 19:12.16 | skibur | Its like the Beta Version |
| 19:12.35 | sp3000 | Thanatermesis: enable the extras repo in the appmgr? |
| 19:13.12 | sp3000 | or did you lose it somehow |
| 19:13.24 | Thanatermesis | skibur, i think that's the no-beta version of chinook |
| 19:13.25 | sp3000 | (not in the going crazy sense :P) |
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| 19:14.45 | Thanatermesis | sp3000, erf, now!, i can't have see that thing disabled (of course since im not root i can't edit sources.lsit...) |
| 19:15.42 | ph|ber | is tablets-dev.nokia.com down? |
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| 19:17.19 | Thanatermesis | nice! a lot of things to install now :] |
| 19:17.50 | tontsa | ph|ber, their backend servers seem down. the frontend proxy still works :) |
| 19:18.32 | skibur | o I see |
| 19:18.56 | tontsa | too many geeks have bought the device |
| 19:19.01 | ph|ber | sheet. |
| 19:19.08 | skibur | I hope that we will see some cool features on the next update like MORE Brightness levels. |
| 19:19.13 | ph|ber | can someone put up the new os for the n810.. |
| 19:19.28 | skibur | My burn when I us the nokia at night at the lowest setting |
| 19:19.41 | skibur | eyes |
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| 19:20.04 | sp3000 | I think there might be a bug on that |
| 19:20.14 | tigert | N800? |
| 19:21.01 | unique311 | Tak, AROUND? |
| 19:21.57 | Thanatermesis | sp3000, is there a problem with the "extra" repository or is my connection ? i can't download anything |
| 19:22.18 | sp3000 | Thanatermesis: it's been intermittent |
| 19:22.39 | tontsa | try every 15 minutes or so and eventually you get to those repos |
| 19:23.04 | tontsa | i have now happily installed openssh+becomeroot and own my device again :) |
| 19:23.39 | tontsa | also adblock plus seems to work lot better than in previous version |
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| 19:29.42 | ph|ber | where are the main howtos?? like howto gain root etc?? |
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| 19:33.27 | Atraii | ph|ber http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ |
| 19:33.51 | Atraii | to gain root i recommend installing the becomeroot package |
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| 19:37.58 | ph|ber | Atraii: where would that be in the software lists? |
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| 19:50.02 | skibur | :) |
| 19:50.07 | skibur | hum... |
| 19:52.06 | skibur | anybody have Abiword deb for N800 - OS2008? |
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| 19:53.00 | flip^ | my n800 doesn't seem to like the update to os2008 :( |
| 19:53.21 | skibur | ? |
| 19:53.26 | skibur | why? |
| 19:53.37 | skibur | are you also restoring applications? |
| 19:53.47 | flip^ | i've not even got that far |
| 19:53.59 | flip^ | i hadn't updated to any of the betas or anything... os2007 before |
| 19:54.05 | skibur | you can't seem to flash it? |
| 19:54.07 | ph|ber | shit.. i cant even download the new os.. |
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| 19:54.12 | flip^ | i've flashed it... |
| 19:54.19 | flip^ | now when i turn it on, i get the nokia logo, and little blue bar runs along the bottom, and then it just hangs |
| 19:54.32 | skibur | o I c |
| 19:54.44 | skibur | good luck |
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| 19:55.38 | Henry78 | Hello ereybody |
| 19:56.05 | Henry78 | just a short question: are the links to http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ outdated? |
| 19:57.45 | skibur | kde on the Nokia N800/N810? |
| 19:57.50 | flip^ | still hangs >.< |
| 19:58.29 | Henry78 | kde on the n800? are you sure you want that? |
| 19:58.46 | skibur | if it runs smooth then yes |
| 19:58.53 | Vulc|Bleh | it most likely will not. |
| 19:59.08 | tigert | does it make sense on a handheld? no. |
| 19:59.15 | skibur | why? |
| 19:59.22 | Henry78 | yes. and it would be hard to tap on all the widgest. |
| 19:59.39 | tigert | eh, if your use of the device is "I play with it next to my laptop in my desk" then maybe |
| 19:59.48 | Vulc|Bleh | nothing is really finger sized, either. |
| 19:59.53 | tigert | if you walk around chatting with your friends and surfing the web in the bus |
| 19:59.53 | Henry78 | ^^ |
| 19:59.56 | tigert | then no |
| 20:00.09 | tigert | movable windows and that stuff do not really make any sense in a small screen |
| 20:00.09 | Vulc|Bleh | also, the OSK would be fairly sucky |
| 20:00.37 | tigert | it probably "works" ok |
| 20:00.37 | skibur | hum... so Qtopia should be alot better |
| 20:00.37 | tigert | I mean, we compiled and ran enlightenment on N800 |
| 20:00.37 | tigert | it worked reasonably ok |
| 20:00.40 | tigert | but similarly |
| 20:00.50 | tigert | it didnt make any sense except for the novelty value |
| 20:00.56 | tigert | not even hack value |
| 20:01.05 | tigert | since it was just configure; make; make install -easy |
| 20:01.10 | Henry78 | me question again: is there another source for the flasher and os2008? tablets-dev.nokia.com doesn't work |
| 20:01.17 | Vulc|Bleh | nothing will amaze me more than Quake2 multiplayer on the n800. |
| 20:01.26 | Henry78 | *gg* |
| 20:01.34 | skibur | hum... |
| 20:01.38 | Vulc|Bleh | Which is... Not that laggy, the times I've used it. |
| 20:01.39 | skibur | yes |
| 20:01.43 | skibur | henry78 |
| 20:01.59 | Henry78 | so... |
| 20:03.15 | skibur | checking |
| 20:03.59 | Henry78 | nice |
| 20:04.10 | skibur | I using 770 version |
| 20:04.15 | skibur | I'm |
| 20:04.43 | flip^ | Henry78: ITT has loads of mirrors, but so far the two i've downloaded have left my n800 hanging and not booting :( |
| 20:05.04 | Henry78 | hu! |
| 20:05.11 | konttori | hey, anyone who has recently flashed, can you try to install ukmp from the .install link? |
| 20:05.23 | konttori | http://downloads.maemo.org/product/OS2008/ukmp/ |
| 20:05.48 | konttori | I just want to know whether all needed repositories are in the .install file |
| 20:06.00 | konttori | so, as vanilla as possible is good candidate. |
| 20:06.19 | Henry78 | i thought it is a very genric, easy and straight-forware procedure to install the os2008 |
| 20:06.32 | skibur | http://www.opendrivers.com/freedownload/237639/nokia-n800-internet-tablet-software-update-wizard-os-2007-edition-v.3.2007.10-7-windows-2000-xp-download.html |
| 20:06.46 | tigert | Henry78: nothing wrong with the procedure. its just that everyone seems to be wanting to download them at once |
| 20:06.48 | skibur | I used that one |
| 20:06.56 | skibur | yeah |
| 20:07.04 | skibur | I have it already |
| 20:07.14 | ph|ber | the ukmp better than the kagu? |
| 20:07.14 | Henry78 | ok, I just try it. |
| 20:07.33 | skibur | I downloaded it from this person. It was zipped at 110MB |
| 20:07.57 | skibur | 15 mins to download |
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| 20:10.44 | skibur | brb |
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| 20:27.40 | konttori | ph|ber: they are different. I'd say canola is better than either of them. |
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| 20:33.11 | sbaturzio | Aloha! |
| 20:33.37 | Henry78 | canola looks nice, i'll give it a try |
| 20:33.47 | Henry78 | see ya |
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| 20:34.28 | ph|ber | konttori: did you get canola on the n810? |
| 20:34.46 | konttori | well, I have tested it |
| 20:35.56 | ph|ber | i tried the download... wouldnt install |
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| 20:40.30 | sven-tek | hi! my n800 with os2008 just began to reboot sometimes. It happens with not interaction. And so it did right about now. |
| 20:40.31 | konttori | I only tested it with indt device |
| 20:41.15 | konttori | canola 2 is not out yet. hopefully they will get it out soon though. |
| 20:41.15 | konttori | in the meanwhile, use ukmp |
| 20:41.30 | sven-tek | hi konttori, i like your converter and audio player :-) |
| 20:41.39 | konttori | thanks |
| 20:42.01 | sven-tek | its me to say thanks :-) |
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| 20:44.46 | Tepa^^^ | I cannot download scratchbox or sdk installer script from here http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo_4_0_chinook_sdk.html Can somebody tell me another location from where to download? |
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| 20:47.17 | fnordage_ | you could try the vmware image. it is over 1GB but at least it isn't on maemo.org :-) |
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| 20:51.28 | L0cutusM | Tepa^^^, wait few days, all are downloading os2008 these days ;) |
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| 20:52.19 | maddler | evening all! :D |
| 20:53.04 | maddler | locutussulo! :D |
| 20:53.50 | maddler | off topic: any good suggestion for a virtual server provider? |
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| 21:00.28 | dick-richardson | is there a changelog somewhere for the os2008 release? |
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| 21:02.25 | fnordage_ | maddler: try "rimu hosting". i found their name so funny, I gave them a go, and they are good and cheap |
| 21:03.14 | maddler | fnordage_: thx... |
| 21:03.27 | ph|ber | maddler: hostgator |
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| 21:03.59 | maddler | ph|ber: thx :) |
| 21:03.59 | ph|ber | yeop |
| 21:04.00 | ph|ber | you already on them?? |
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| 21:04.09 | ph|ber | or have heard of them? |
| 21:04.25 | elpaso | Hi, anybody knows the icon size for the .desktop file? |
| 21:04.43 | elpaso | In maemo 4 is bigger than before? |
| 21:04.59 | ph|ber | shit.. i wish nokia would kick their servers in the rear |
| 21:05.25 | sp3000 | 16 requests, I already have 4 out of 6 |
| 21:05.43 | maddler | ph|ber: heard of them... but never tried... |
| 21:05.58 | ph|ber | i host there.. really fast pipes and cheap for what you get. |
| 21:06.01 | sp3000 | s/table/table (second pass, not cached)/ |
| 21:06.03 | fnordage_ | its just one big DDOS at the mo ;) |
| 21:06.09 | ph|ber | i get like a tb of space and tb of transfer a month for like 9 bucks. |
| 21:06.15 | maddler | elpaso: are you from Turin? |
| 21:06.24 | elpaso | No, monza |
| 21:06.36 | maddler | elpaso: oh... ok? :) |
| 21:06.43 | maddler | elpaso: your name misleaded me :) |
| 21:06.55 | elpaso | maddler: Why? |
| 21:07.04 | fnordage_ | maddler: rimu give virtual root servers if that's what you're after |
| 21:07.32 | fnordage_ | well, rent, not give |
| 21:07.32 | maddler | fnordage_: exactly... |
| 21:07.40 | maddler | :) |
| 21:07.53 | ph|ber | anyone have probs downloading through the wireless???? |
| 21:07.55 | maddler | elpaso: there is a squat in Torino... El Paso :) |
| 21:08.03 | ph|ber | trying to dl openssh says 687kb but taking forever. |
| 21:08.26 | elpaso | maddler: I will move to Piedmont next June |
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| 21:08.57 | mgedmin | so, os2008 final is out and http://tablets-dev.nokia.com appears to be completely slashdotted |
| 21:09.00 | blithe | Woo! Finally got my n800! |
| 21:09.09 | mgedmin | can't nokia afford decent bandwidth? |
| 21:09.21 | ph|ber | shit.. figures.... |
| 21:09.24 | ph|ber | no wonder i cant get to it. |
| 21:09.32 | jeff1f | is there a torrent? |
| 21:09.51 | ph|ber | the /. effect sucks. |
| 21:09.56 | mgedmin | no, nokia is paranoid and requires your device ID before it lets you to download the image (slowly) |
| 21:10.00 | ph|ber | they should mirror everything they write on. |
| 21:10.15 | fnordage_ | they should write on mirrors |
| 21:10.15 | ph|ber | and you are linked to their mirror. |
| 21:10.40 | angrymg | mirror-writing is hard to read |
| 21:10.52 | fnordage_ | redrum redrum redrum |
| 21:12.33 | fnordage_ | i can't even install nano, and it's tiny |
| 21:14.18 | ph|ber | i could just kick /. in the ding ding |
| 21:15.11 | fnordage_ | probably quicker to fetch the source and compile it myself |
| 21:16.04 | blithe | Are the maemo repos down for anyone else right now? |
| 21:16.11 | ph|ber | slow at best. |
| 21:16.13 | ph|ber | blithe: . |
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| 21:16.32 | ph|ber | angrymg: i thought you were serious. |
| 21:16.43 | angrymg | I was |
| 21:16.59 | angrymg | 'slashdotted' to me means 'melted down under heavy load following an announcement of some kind' |
| 21:17.06 | angrymg | and I mean 'melted down' metaphorically, again |
| 21:21.58 | ph|ber | is there a repo for canola for the 810? |
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| 21:38.47 | blithe | Anyone know where I can get additional keyboard layouts for an n800? |
| 21:38.59 | skibur | I'm back |
| 21:39.13 | halley | CompUSA? |
| 21:39.16 | skibur | lol |
| 21:39.19 | timely | blithe: the wikis probably list a couple, do you really want a random layout |
| 21:39.21 | skibur | rocks! |
| 21:39.24 | timely | or do you have a specific one in mind? |
| 21:39.26 | timely | ,pst [ep[;e dpm |
| 21:39.30 | timely | ^ that |
| 21:39.31 | blithe | I need a dvoark layout. |
| 21:39.35 | timely | 's a key layout |
| 21:39.35 | skibur | skibur throws rocks at halley |
| 21:39.39 | timely | sp3000: nice |
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| 21:39.48 | blithe | dvorak rather |
| 21:40.02 | Jaffa | tigert: it's interesting what you say about movable windows on handheld (rather than laptop or desktop) computers: I completely agree and have found the movable home applets on OS2008 a right pain for moving when I don't want them (as well as the bug where they don't move when you *do* want them to) |
| 21:40.11 | skibur | hacking is all I know |
| 21:40.19 | Webspot | Does anyone have a mirror of flasher-3.0? I can't really get to it on nokia servers at the moment, with the mass demand for os2008. |
| 21:40.32 | Jaffa | BTW, 800x480 background for people who want an iPhone: http://xs222.xs.to/xs222/07512/Peni.png |
| 21:40.51 | sp3000 | Jaffa: yeah, not having a checkitem in the menu toplevel to lock items is weird |
| 21:40.55 | halley | Jaffa, is that a "free" image? |
| 21:41.16 | Jaffa | hally: it's not the iPhones directly. It's something similar done by someone else AFAICT |
| 21:42.10 | Jaffa | sp3000: agreed, "lock layout" would be *really* handy |
| 21:43.02 | youam | Webspot: one second |
| 21:43.16 | Webspot | youam: Cheers |
| 21:43.41 | timely | sp3000: we refuse to emulate the good features from windows |
| 21:43.47 | timely | :) |
| 21:43.50 | FMz | So, does anyone know when the planned release date of OS2008 for n800 is? |
| 21:44.10 | sp3000 | FMz: uh, today |
| 21:44.12 | fnordage_ | when the servers start working |
| 21:44.15 | FMz | o_O |
| 21:44.19 | angrymg | timely: take the one from gnome then |
| 21:44.27 | halley | So, does anyone know when the bot will be given ops to kick those who ask for the planned release of OS2008? |
| 21:44.29 | sp3000 | FMz: welcome to 11 hours ago :P |
| 21:44.32 | tigert | Jaffa: yeah |
| 21:44.39 | halley | ;) |
| 21:44.42 | tigert | Jaffa: one does kinda want to arrange the home applets though |
| 21:44.50 | Jaffa | tigert: not all the time though |
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| 21:45.04 | timely | halley++ |
| 21:45.05 | tigert | Jaffa: but I agree - it is a bit nasty. there is a move threshold though so they shouldnt move too easily |
| 21:45.11 | tigert | but its a bit painful, I kno |
| 21:45.11 | tigert | w |
| 21:45.18 | FMz | halley: I have checked on the maemo website every day for a week, and hadn't seen anything on there about it, also the Nokia site. I figured someone here would be able to give an answer faster than doing 2 hours of searching. |
| 21:45.20 | sp3000 | tigert: so windows toolbars in various places have had draggable handles and a lock in the context menu forever |
| 21:45.24 | Jaffa | tigert: are there internal bugs? |
| 21:45.35 | Anastasia | Anyone got this as a torrent yet, I have been spinning for quite some time now with the page still not loading :-(. |
| 21:45.46 | timely | Jaffa: they're not worth reading |
| 21:46.27 | flip^ | hmm, seems a memory card was corrupt that stopped it from booting :S... os2007 was fine |
| 21:46.27 | tigert | Jaffa: about this? |
| 21:46.27 | Jaffa | tigert: yeah |
| 21:46.27 | Jaffa | or whether I should raise an RFE |
| 21:46.27 | youam | would it be possible to upgrade via the programm manager thingy / apt-get if the servers where available? |
| 21:46.27 | tigert | Jaffa: will have to check |
| 21:46.33 | timely | Jaffa: file it |
| 21:46.34 | youam | (from the latest beta, that is) |
| 21:46.35 | Anastasia | Err, the links finally loaded, it looks like it is for the n810 rather than the n800? |
| 21:46.38 | tigert | Jaffa: but file it yeah |
| 21:46.42 | timely | it doesn't matter whether an internal exists |
| 21:46.48 | timely | what matters is that an external must exist |
| 21:47.13 | tigert | youam: no |
| 21:47.15 | timely | heh |
| 21:47.18 | sp3000 | Jaffa: ...what thy said, the external bugzilla is a fine todo tool for people to check for internal bugs |
| 21:47.24 | sp3000 | they even |
| 21:47.25 | Jaffa | indeed |
| 21:47.31 | sp3000 | I use it :P |
| 21:47.37 | youam | tontsa: too bad. why not? |
| 21:48.39 | tigert | sp3000: yeap |
| 21:48.43 | youam | s/tontsa/tigert/ argh |
| 21:48.46 | *** part/#maemo Webspot (n=Webspot@unaffiliated/webspot) |
| 21:48.54 | tigert | :) |
| 21:48.59 | tigert | youam: because it is not tested |
| 21:49.09 | dragorn | Anyone know if this means they've unlocked the navkit for 2008? |
| 21:49.12 | tigert | we suck :) but maybe someday it will work |
| 21:49.21 | timely | tigert: are changelogs considered public? |
| 21:49.31 | sp3000 | hey, the final downloads twice as fast as the beta did |
| 21:49.33 | sp3000 | improvement! |
| 21:49.38 | youam | tigert: argh. welcome back in the early nineties of linux distributions |
| 21:49.40 | timely | sp3000: really? |
| 21:49.45 | timely | 2K/s instead of 1K/s ? |
| 21:49.45 | sp3000 | (that's, uh, 2.5h vs 5h) |
| 21:49.46 | tigert | youam: I know |
| 21:49.52 | FMz | Jaffa: Are you going to host it somewhere? |
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| 21:50.04 | Jaffa | FMz: what? |
| 21:50.09 | sp3000 | so 14 vs 7 :) |
| 21:50.10 | halley | I need to find/work out a good pygame-hildon wrapper, such that the minimize/windowcaption/dbus junk is taken care of cleanly. |
| 21:50.14 | Anastasia | Is this the right page for the n800?: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N810.php |
| 21:50.18 | dragorn | youam: because the kernel and initfs are different portions of the flash. those aside, it's unfortunate that the user portion isn't more easily upgradeable |
| 21:50.25 | tigert | youam: in theory it might, but I think a) the non-free packages do not exist on repo's and b) nobody has tested it |
| 21:50.26 | timely | Anastasia: "no" |
| 21:50.28 | sp3000 | Anastasia: look at the part before .php |
| 21:50.34 | FMz | Jaffa: I saw you say "I'll offer it around"... thought you might be hosting... ;) |
| 21:50.37 | sp3000 | the N810 part specifically |
| 21:50.51 | timely | tigert: last i checked non-free indeed do not exist on repositories |
| 21:51.02 | tigert | timely: then only b) applies I guess |
| 21:51.03 | youam | tigert: i think i don't want most of the non-free anyway ;) |
| 21:51.05 | Anastasia | timely: I am confuzed, I think I'll wait until this gets sorted out and will download in less than 2 day :-). Thanks. |
| 21:51.07 | tigert | timely: or wait |
| 21:51.10 | tigert | I read wrong |
| 21:51.11 | tigert | yeah |
| 21:51.23 | sp3000 | Anastasia: you want http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php for N800 |
| 21:51.25 | Jaffa | FMz: I meant, I'll offer the chance to raise the "there should be a way of locking home applets positions" bug around, to gain extra karma which'll contribute to some future N900/N820 device programme, if such a device - and such a programme - exists. |
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| 21:51.46 | FMz | Jaffa: Ahh, k... sorry for the misunderstandin mate |
| 21:51.54 | Jaffa | FMz: no probs |
| 21:52.08 | timely | FMz: as far as we're concerned mirroring is forbidden |
| 21:52.11 | timely | An error occurred while processing your request. |
| 21:52.11 | timely | Reference #97.d1a4f57.1198014644.259b37df |
| 21:52.15 | sp3000 | he'll host the bug on bugzilla, that's what ;) |
| 21:52.17 | timely | sp3000, how's that for a root page? :) |
| 21:52.29 | dragorn | mininova seems to have torrents |
| 21:52.30 | FMz | timely: May I ask why? |
| 21:52.33 | sp3000 | timely, I have several more of those |
| 21:52.46 | angrymg | feels like a lottery |
| 21:52.46 | timely | FMz: you're free to ask, but the answer is on a page i can't read |
| 21:52.50 | angrymg | what's the winning ticket? |
| 21:52.52 | Anastasia | Argh, another hour waiting for the n800 page to load, sigh. |
| 21:53.02 | Jaffa | I'd guess at licencing of third party software - primarily Flash now, I guess. |
| 21:53.08 | sp3000 | oh, actually, I kept two, and then got bored and started just counting requests without copypaste |
| 21:53.14 | FMz | timely: Ahhh... k. |
| 21:53.17 | procto | anyone know if Carman runs on OS2008? |
| 21:53.24 | timely | sp3000: heh, i printed my previous error page |
| 21:53.27 | timely | i figure i'll frame it |
| 21:53.36 | timely | maybe outside ferenc's office :) |
| 21:54.06 | sp3000 | I got through the obstacle course of front page, mac form, agreement form, file list, md5sums, file list again, image in just 20 requests it turns out |
| 21:54.24 | timely | sp3000: do you have a cache for those things? |
| 21:54.46 | sp3000 | hmm which things? |
| 21:55.01 | timely | probably agreemoent form |
| 21:55.06 | timely | s/oe/e/ |
| 21:55.09 | sp3000 | I think they mostly don't like to be cached |
| 21:55.54 | timely | ok, would the next person who sees that form please keep a copy? :) |
| 21:56.14 | sp3000 | (hence the file list twice) |
| 21:56.26 | felipec | there are some torrents for N8x0 |
| 21:57.05 | dragorn | timely: Which form are you looking for? |
| 21:57.53 | timely | the agreement that you have to click through to get the file |
| 21:59.29 | Anastasia | An error occurred while processing your request. - might be worth waiting on... |
| 21:59.47 | dragorn | ah. I'm just trying to get the md5 for the 810 image actually. |
| 22:01.17 | felipec | 89e0661318f60420c691f4e1dd0c6ba3 RX-34_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 22:01.18 | felipec | 25292105f0769680828ea2ccd36d6807 RX-44_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 22:01.27 | timely | >If you agree, you have 1 hours of time to download the software after which the acceptance must be renewed. |
| 22:01.38 | timely | sp3000: do you see anything wrong w/ that sentence? :) |
| 22:01.46 | Anastasia | nokia has the worst web presence I have ever seen from a big company :-( |
| 22:02.02 | dragorn | felipec: thanks |
| 22:03.33 | FMz | This is killin me. |
| 22:04.38 | angrymg | ouch |
| 22:04.38 | Jaffa | timely: does Bugzilla have a "related bug" thing? I've seen blocks/depends on, but no "relateD" |
| 22:05.22 | timely | only a bug requesting that |
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| 22:06.45 | halley | http://halley.cc/screenshot10.png http://halley.cc/screenshot05.png |
| 22:08.05 | sp3000 | Anastasia: it'd be ok but for those darn users |
| 22:08.17 | sp3000 | try again, it'll come around |
| 22:08.49 | sp3000 | timely: 1 hours eh |
| 22:08.50 | skibur | hopes for N800 - OS2008 - Abiword |
| 22:08.59 | xan | halley, looks pretty neat |
| 22:09.05 | Jaffa | halley: very cool |
| 22:09.09 | halley | I think you guys should really give them some slack. Who else but maybe Sun would host a corporate website from their own product? Okay, so a Nokia 770 isn't like a Sunfire. :) |
| 22:09.46 | Jaffa | hehe |
| 22:10.13 | tigert | suck |
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| 22:12.16 | skibur | jaffa |
| 22:12.38 | skibur | how do you send message on irc? |
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| 22:12.43 | skibur | I see |
| 22:12.49 | skibur | * Jaffa beds. |
| 22:13.09 | timely | /me ... |
| 22:13.17 | skibur | do you use "/msg #maemo beds. |
| 22:13.43 | timely | http://irchelp.org |
| 22:14.00 | timeless | /me isn't special here |
| 22:14.13 | timeless | but that's because i reconfigure this client |
| 22:14.18 | timeless | /etc/hosts |
| 22:14.21 | timeless | /etc/passwd |
| 22:14.30 | timeless | / is too important to reserve for irc commands :) |
| 22:14.40 | timeless | http://irchelp.org |
| 22:14.54 | halley | Er, /say /etc/hosts |
| 22:15.04 | felipec | the exaflood is comming |
| 22:15.06 | skibur | o ok |
| 22:15.08 | timeless | try pasting paths :) |
| 22:15.19 | halley | Pastes don't trigger / commands on this client. |
| 22:15.20 | skibur | cool |
| 22:15.44 | halley | Should say, multiple-line pastes. |
| 22:15.51 | timeless | my client is console |
| 22:15.55 | timeless | it doesn't know what a paste is |
| 22:15.59 | skibur | I can hack the crap out of the Nintendo DS Lite - Linux, but I can't understand irc commands |
| 22:16.00 | skibur | lol |
| 22:16.32 | youam | timeless: irssi knows that words starting with / are *not* irc-commands when they have a second / somewhere in them, and you can escape a starting / with a "/ ", so "/ /me" would be: |
| 22:16.36 | youam | /me |
| 22:16.39 | timeless | take your ds's web browser to irchelp.org |
| 22:16.53 | skibur | lol |
| 22:16.56 | timeless | *** Unknown command: A,A |
| 22:17.06 | timeless | epic clearly doesn't |
| 22:17.09 | skibur | later peeps |
| 22:17.13 | skibur | happy hacking |
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| 22:32.10 | unique311 | maemo repository is down? |
| 22:32.28 | fnordage_ | ish |
| 22:32.59 | GAN800 | It sorta works |
| 22:33.01 | unique311 | guessing thats a yes |
| 22:33.15 | GAN800 | Enough, maybe, to get some of the info while updating |
| 22:33.31 | unique311 | sorta...i don't believe in sorta anymore. |
| 22:33.42 | fnordage_ | perhaps. i'm finally getting some stuff installed, but even nano took ages |
| 22:33.58 | unique311 | can somebody sorta be dying? |
| 22:34.03 | ph|ber | y0y0 |
| 22:34.11 | fnordage_ | yep, we all are, kinda |
| 22:34.28 | unique311 | kinda another one i don't believe in |
| 22:34.30 | unique311 | lol |
| 22:36.37 | unique311 | wonder how many people died because of sorta, kinda, maybe, etc... |
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| 22:37.24 | fnordage_ | they've sorta got WMDs ? |
| 22:37.32 | unique311 | see |
| 22:38.53 | unique311 | can really picture him saying that word......thanks for pointing that out fnordage_ |
| 22:39.51 | fnordage_ | but Alfed Korzybski said "Any proposition containing the word is, creates a linguistic structural confusion that eventually gives birth to serious fallacies." |
| 22:40.18 | fnordage_ | so "sorta", "kinda" and "probly" seem better to me anyhow |
| 22:41.43 | unique311 | trying to think of a proposition containing (is).... |
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| 22:42.29 | tigert | facebook removed the mandatory "is" |
| 22:42.36 | tigert | and now I want it back :( |
| 22:42.54 | tigert | it made status updates a bit more fun in finnish at least :) |
| 22:43.16 | ph|ber | anyone gotten to the OS update on nokia? |
| 22:43.28 | GAN800 | Not from Nokia |
| 22:43.30 | zerojay | Yep. |
| 22:43.36 | GAN800 | But there are a thousand and one mirrors on ITT |
| 22:43.44 | zerojay | For the N800 version anyways. |
| 22:43.51 | ph|ber | i need 810 |
| 22:44.39 | ph|ber | and canola complains about other software. |
| 22:44.40 | unique311 | no you don't |
| 22:44.57 | ph|ber | ? |
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| 22:45.30 | angrymg | oh yay, my allotted hour must have ended |
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| 22:45.48 | angrymg | image download just stopped after 35 megs |
| 22:45.57 | unique311 | you need water ph|ber? |
| 22:46.01 | unique311 | not an 810 |
| 22:46.06 | ph|ber | huh? |
| 22:46.20 | fnordage_ | angriermg now perhaps? |
| 22:47.16 | fnordage_ | "is you gonna marry me?" |
| 22:47.21 | unique311 | lol |
| 22:47.33 | tigert | "i can has cheezburger" |
| 22:47.44 | ph|ber | anyone have RX-44_2008SE_2.2007.50-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin they can put up somewhere? |
| 22:47.49 | unique311 | oh...i wasn't too sure on using slang |
| 22:48.08 | fnordage_ | Alfred wouldn't approve of slang |
| 22:49.19 | unique311 | not sure i would marry a chick, if she came at me that way with the proposal |
| 22:49.42 | fnordage_ | Especially the morning after. |
| 22:49.48 | *** part/#maemo GAN800 (n=ryan@pdpc/supporter/active/generalantilles) |
| 22:49.51 | unique311 | 'is you going to merger with our company or what?" |
| 22:49.57 | tigert | unique311: "i can has wife?" |
| 22:50.13 | tigert | that doesnt have is though |
| 22:50.14 | tigert | :) |
| 22:50.14 | fnordage_ | rofl |
| 22:50.22 | tigert | time to sleep soon, laters |
| 22:50.30 | celesteh | you want have engagement ring? |
| 22:50.32 | unique311 | peace |
| 22:50.36 | fnordage_ | tra |
| 22:51.23 | fnordage_ | did u see the "busted" lolcat on cheezbrger ? |
| 22:51.29 | unique311 | so a question beginning with (is) is also forbidden fnordage_ |
| 22:51.43 | fnordage_ | is it? |
| 22:52.02 | unique311 | shit |
| 22:52.49 | fnordage_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Korzybski |
| 22:53.30 | unique311 | "is you going to marry me" is a question. ______ can place (sorta, kinda) but won't. |
| 22:54.14 | ph|ber | what is the default user and password for the 810?? if you are sshin in |
| 22:54.30 | fnordage_ | root, rootme |
| 22:54.35 | fnordage_ | probly |
| 22:54.54 | unique311 | its rootme |
| 22:55.39 | fnordage_ | unique: nicely avoided "is" there |
| 22:55.55 | angrymg | so, anybody interested in the eula? |
| 22:56.09 | fnordage_ | i wasn't |
| 22:56.46 | unique311 | it's |
| 22:59.36 | fnordage_ | should we be interested in the EULA, if, for example, we've mirrored OS2008, or something? |
| 23:00.32 | shackan | fnordage_: maybe the eula states wheter you can freely distribute it or not? |
| 23:00.42 | unique311 | you can't |
| 23:01.09 | shackan | right |
| 23:01.13 | shackan | problem solved |
| 23:01.28 | unique311 | but its happening anayways. |
| 23:01.43 | unique311 | so people don't really care for eula |
| 23:02.08 | fnordage_ | well, maemo.org can't distribute it either |
| 23:03.43 | zerojay | Quim thanked people that had put up mirrors, so I don't think we have to worry about them telling us to stop hosting them because an EULA wasn't accepted. |
| 23:04.14 | zerojay | Hell, even Texrat was trying to put up a mirror on Jablet and he works for Nokia. |
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| 23:04.21 | ph|ber | is the gps enabled by default on the 810? |
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| 23:04.43 | fnordage_ | angrymg: nice idea. |
| 23:04.48 | ph|ber | nm |
| 23:05.05 | fnordage_ | how fast does the cookie expire? |
| 23:05.10 | zerojay | 1 hour. |
| 23:05.14 | ph|ber | hrm. yea.. previsious question |
| 23:05.50 | angrymg | hahaha |
| 23:05.52 | angrymg | 01:05:15 ERROR 504: Gateway Time-out. |
| 23:06.00 | angrymg | and no automatic retry |
| 23:07.50 | ph|ber | yeah, been that way all damn day. |
| 23:08.29 | fnordage_ | trust apple to push out a leopard security update just now, to prove how this should be done <ducks> |
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| 23:13.09 | ph|ber | sweet! started download.. |
| 23:13.14 | ph|ber | @ 13k.. but hey.. im not picky |
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| 23:13.55 | angrymg | luxury! |
| 23:14.19 | angrymg | the dial-up modem connected to the nokia's web server must be smoking |
| 23:14.19 | ph|ber | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_flashlatestnokiaimagewithlinux/ |
| 23:14.23 | ph|ber | ERROR |
| 23:14.24 | ph|ber | The requested URL could not be retrieved |
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| 23:19.50 | timeless | angrymg: eula, pleawse |
| 23:20.14 | angrymg | oops |
| 23:20.18 | angrymg | don't have it any more |
| 23:20.29 | fnordianslip | is gronmeyer.com borked aswell? |
| 23:20.39 | angrymg | I thought |
| 23:20.49 | angrymg | I thought I saved it in a file, but now I see the file is empty |
| 23:21.33 | timeless | eh |
| 23:22.32 | timeless | oh btw |
| 23:22.47 | timeless | um... hrm... |
| 23:22.56 | fnordianslip | timeless sounds like a teletubby |
| 23:23.20 | zerojay | Hahahaha. |
| 23:23.31 | zerojay | Best completely random line ever. |
| 23:23.46 | fnordianslip | tnx |
| 23:23.50 | Anastasia | Anyone else getting this trying to download: An error occurred while processing your request. |
| 23:23.57 | zerojay | Everyone is. |
| 23:24.00 | Anastasia | Every time I get in and try it so far I get that. |
| 23:24.09 | Anastasia | Ah, OK, will be PATIENT :-) |
| 23:24.11 | Anastasia | Thanks |
| 23:24.14 | timeless | good :) |
| 23:24.25 | Anastasia | IG! :-) |
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| 23:34.37 | dick-richardson | is there a changelog somewhere for the os2008 release? |
| 23:34.46 | ph|ber | im sure it is. |
| 23:35.13 | fnordianslip | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/changes/50-2_vs_38-2_changes.html |
| 23:36.19 | angrymg | that's not a changelog |
| 23:36.24 | angrymg | that's a diff of package versions |
| 23:36.30 | angrymg | ... isn't it? |
| 23:36.31 | fnordianslip | sorry. close though |
| 23:37.45 | Segnale007 | hi guys |
| 23:37.47 | Segnale007 | but |
| 23:37.58 | Segnale007 | all the repos are down today ? |
| 23:38.47 | sirgt | looks like |
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| 23:43.09 | Andy80 | hi |
| 23:43.36 | Toni | hi hi |
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| 23:48.43 | Toni | ok, it works still :) |
| 23:48.50 | fnordianslip | anyone remember which repo had xchat for os2008. don't want to enable them all to find it. |
| 23:51.52 | fnordianslip | ah. it wasn't in a repo. found the deb. |
| 23:55.17 | FMz | Anyone had any more luck downloading the new OS? |
| 23:55.25 | ph|ber | im getting it now. |
| 23:55.29 | ph|ber | @ 13-16k/sec |
| 23:55.34 | ph|ber | 2 hours left. |
| 23:55.39 | FMz | Holy crap |
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| 23:55.58 | ph|ber | cant freaking download the flasher-3.0 though |
| 23:56.47 | FMz | This is insane. Multimillion dollar corporation can't afford decent web-hosting. |
| 23:59.26 | fnordianslip | uu want flasher-3.0 for x86? |
| 23:59.34 | ph|ber | yes |
| 23:59.44 | fnordianslip | http://homepage.mac.com/darren.long/filechute/flasher-3.0 |
| 23:59.49 | ph|ber | ty |
