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| 00:01.09 | esworp | bah! had a crash |
| 00:01.50 | GeneralAntilles | Maemo Mapper |
| 00:01.50 | _Monkey | Maemo Mapper is geographical mapping software specifically designed for the Maemo platform and the Nokia 770/N800 form factor. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/maemo-mapper/ |
| 00:01.52 | GeneralAntilles | Canola |
| 00:01.52 | _Monkey | Canola is just even more worthless with shared forlders than the mplayer frontend |
| 00:01.54 | GeneralAntilles | Haha |
| 00:02.03 | esworp | got canola, not maemomapper.. |
| 00:02.13 | esworp | don't really need a map app right you. |
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| 00:02.31 | GeneralAntilles | Maemo Mapper is fantastic. :) |
| 00:02.32 | esworp | i've been dicking around with mplayer, trying to find the best encode setup. :] |
| 00:02.55 | esworp | i'm sure it rocks, but I just dont need it yaknow? |
| 00:03.28 | GeneralAntilles | 1000-1250Kbps 400x240 @ 20-30fps is what works best for me |
| 00:03.30 | GeneralAntilles | Xvid |
| 00:03.48 | esworp | videocenter seems like it'll be cool... Pan gets pretty laggy.. |
| 00:03.59 | GeneralAntilles | You install Doom? |
| 00:04.10 | esworp | not yet.. might do that this weekend. |
| 00:04.19 | GeneralAntilles | Also, FBReader |
| 00:04.27 | esworp | got that, yah. |
| 00:04.56 | esworp | i've noticed my version of maemo is a coupla versions old out of the box.. |
| 00:05.02 | GeneralAntilles | Use AIM/MSN/Yahoo/etc? |
| 00:05.07 | esworp | what would be the benefits to staying current? |
| 00:05.17 | GeneralAntilles | What version is it? |
| 00:05.22 | esworp | i have pidgin cooking for that, and xchat, too. |
| 00:05.28 | esworp | lemme go look. |
| 00:05.33 | GeneralAntilles | Pidgin is kinda a pain |
| 00:05.47 | GeneralAntilles | I'd recommend going with Jabber transports with the built-in Jabber client. |
| 00:05.52 | esworp | seems better than gaim. |
| 00:06.04 | esworp | yeah, i need to do that.. i used to use jabber on my palm. |
| 00:06.17 | GeneralAntilles | The built-in client is nicely integrated. |
| 00:06.19 | GeneralAntilles | Makes things easy. |
| 00:06.19 | esworp | the LCARS theme is pretty slick, too. |
| 00:06.32 | esworp | i could see how it would be better. |
| 00:06.43 | GeneralAntilles | http://tigert.1g.fi/blog-files/n800-theme/ |
| 00:06.48 | GeneralAntilles | http://www.mophile.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/plankton_theme.jpg |
| 00:06.52 | GeneralAntilles | Plankton is what I use |
| 00:06.54 | GeneralAntilles | Very nice. |
| 00:07.14 | esworp | i would like to eventually port the old Macos8.5 theme: Graphpaper. |
| 00:07.44 | GeneralAntilles | Haha |
| 00:07.46 | GeneralAntilles | Linky? |
| 00:08.03 | esworp | lemme find something.. I only know of it form my past, eh? |
| 00:08.13 | GeneralAntilles | Kaleidoscope theme? |
| 00:08.17 | esworp | nope. |
| 00:08.20 | esworp | hack out of japan |
| 00:08.45 | zerojay | Get Sketchy then. |
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| 00:09.03 | esworp | Sketchy? |
| 00:09.32 | GeneralAntilles | http://oluc.blogspot.com/2007/03/hildon-sketchy-theme.html |
| 00:09.41 | GeneralAntilles | Mac user? |
| 00:09.49 | esworp | yeah! |
| 00:10.03 | esworp | hey, sketchy is pretty cool.] |
| 00:10.08 | GeneralAntilles | http://www.iospirit.com/remotebuddy/ |
| 00:10.19 | GeneralAntilles | The AJAX remote works rather nicely with the N800 and MicroB |
| 00:15.34 | flip^ | having just reflashed, can someone remind me where i can find gainroot? |
| 00:16.24 | pupnik | i think the new quake is funner than doom |
| 00:16.45 | pupnik | gainroot? |
| 00:16.46 | _Monkey | somebody said gainroot was a quick howto to become root here http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_BecomeRoot and more information is here http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot |
| 00:17.40 | flip^ | heh heh, found it :) |
| 00:20.12 | esworp | is there any kind of 'tail' type applet for Home? |
| 00:21.54 | pupnik | like unix tail? |
| 00:22.25 | esworp | yeah, but on the 'desktop' |
| 00:22.47 | zerojay | no, but feel free to port it. |
| 00:23.00 | pupnik | why would you want a gui tail? |
| 00:23.23 | esworp | it would be more convienient to have it as a persistant applet on a smallish window. |
| 00:23.36 | pupnik | like tail -f to monitor a running log? |
| 00:23.40 | esworp | right |
| 00:24.59 | pupnik | that could be a nice introduction to maemo development for you :) |
| 00:25.05 | esworp | hehe. |
| 00:25.32 | esworp | i've not really got any kind of leetness... just basic CLI navigation stuff. |
| 00:25.34 | pupnik | you can open multiple tabs in xterm though |
| 00:25.48 | pupnik | keep tail running in one.. |
| 00:26.19 | flip^ | hmm, what was that thing that ate 100% of my cpu and drained my battery overnight back when i first got my n800... some media crawler thing or something? |
| 00:29.38 | esworp | rats.. |
| 00:29.38 | zerojay | That only happens if the user did something stupid, like create a recursive link so that it infinitely loops. |
| 00:29.56 | esworp | bummer there wasn't One to Rule Them All. |
| 00:30.23 | zerojay | Shittier still, they all are more or less exactly the same anyways. |
| 00:30.59 | esworp | i work part time on a military base overnight, and mplayer is going to get a workout! |
| 00:31.05 | esworp | it was worse on my Lifedrive. |
| 00:31.14 | esworp | i really grew to hate that thing. |
| 00:35.19 | pupnik | the more you get into video codecs the more you start to see differences |
| 00:35.21 | pupnik | like uh |
| 00:35.25 | pupnik | beer, wine and cheese |
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| 01:01.03 | GeneralAntilles | I hadn't tried Quake 1 yet |
| 01:01.10 | GeneralAntilles | that's really entirely functional and awesome. |
| 01:01.16 | GeneralAntilles | Mouselook even works great with the stylus. |
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| 01:24.27 | bobbyw | 0-0-9yu78opopo; |
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| 01:24.44 | bobbyw | what's everyone up to on this wonderful friday night? |
| 01:27.09 | GeneralAntilles | Trying to install MPD on my OS X machine. |
| 01:36.36 | pupnik | yeah pipeline just fixed that mouse look in the last update and i'm so impressed |
| 01:36.46 | pupnik | it's exactly like i hoped it would be |
| 01:37.29 | pupnik | i'm trying to get the ARM optimized code into FCEU |
| 01:38.54 | GeneralAntilles | Goodness, if only we had accelerated 3d. :( |
| 01:39.05 | pupnik | not for a nintendo emu |
| 01:39.41 | GeneralAntilles | No, for Quake 3. ;) |
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| 01:50.13 | pupnik | ahaaa |
| 01:52.55 | GeneralAntilles | Just need an arm port of Tremulous and I'll be good to go. |
| 01:56.51 | bobbyw | anyone here know a way to make this bluetooth keyboard easier to use? |
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| 02:04.19 | bobbyw | well |
| 02:04.22 | bobbyw | that didn't come out right |
| 02:04.32 | bobbyw | what I meant to say was |
| 02:04.42 | bobbyw | I usually navigate my computer with my keyboard |
| 02:04.48 | bobbyw | shit like alt-tab is gone |
| 02:10.07 | bobbyw | anyone? |
| 02:10.13 | bobbyw | everyone is out at the bars, partying, |
| 02:10.17 | bobbyw | I'm here playing with my new tablet |
| 02:10.19 | bobbyw | something is wrong here |
| 02:10.34 | pupnik | what alt-tab |
| 02:10.45 | bobbyw | switch between applications |
| 02:10.53 | GeneralAntilles | Control panel -> Hardware Keyboard, Shortcuts tab |
| 02:12.17 | bobbyw | there you can set alt tab to bring up the menu but it doesn't let you toggle between them with is |
| 02:12.20 | bobbyw | with it* |
| 02:12.23 | bobbyw | is that correct? |
| 02:12.32 | GeneralAntilles | Seems likely |
| 02:12.40 | GeneralAntilles | Don't have a bluetooth keyboard to test. |
| 02:14.40 | bobbyw | eh, that's good enough |
| 02:14.46 | bobbyw | I'll just have to get used to it |
| 02:15.01 | bobbyw | I can't get used to pressing something besides alt-tab though, I've been doing that for years |
| 02:15.22 | bobbyw | hmmm, now just plain tab works |
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| 02:27.06 | procto | :se noai |
| 02:27.06 | procto | a:se ai |
| 02:27.23 | bobbyw | anyone know how I can get aim transport running on an n800 |
| 02:27.53 | zerojay | Use Jabber. |
| 02:28.47 | bobbyw | how do I get aim contacts on my jabber buddy list |
| 02:29.20 | zerojay | You'll have to use a PC to add the AIM gateway. |
| 02:29.20 | bobbyw | actually, I don't even have a jabber account. Just gmail, will that work? |
| 02:29.30 | bobbyw | I've got a pc in front of me |
| 02:29.35 | zerojay | Gmail doesn't have the transports for that. |
| 02:29.37 | bobbyw | I searched good for aim transport |
| 02:30.43 | zerojay | You'll have to find and setup a jabber account at a jabber server with the AIM transport. |
| 02:30.50 | zerojay | It's worth it. |
| 02:30.58 | zerojay | Much better than using Pidgin. |
| 02:31.06 | GeneralAntilles | ^ very true |
| 02:31.08 | zerojay | Well, with RTCOMM beta anyways. |
| 02:31.20 | zerojay | No needing to run a separate program or anything.. it just works. |
| 02:31.26 | bobbyw | hmm |
| 02:31.27 | bobbyw | sounds nice |
| 02:31.34 | bobbyw | can someone tell me what server they use? |
| 02:31.38 | bobbyw | before I hop on one that sucks |
| 02:31.49 | zerojay | I would, but I run my own. |
| 02:31.51 | bobbyw | I tried using gizmo, but that shows all my contacts as offline |
| 02:32.02 | zerojay | Gizmo uses Jabber as well. |
| 02:32.27 | GeneralAntilles | zerojay, you use the speed contacts applet? |
| 02:32.31 | bobbyw | so gizmo's transports are down? |
| 02:32.39 | GeneralAntilles | I can't seem to make it not display avatars with rtcomm. |
| 02:32.44 | zerojay | GeneralAntilles: Yes. |
| 02:32.54 | zerojay | GeneralAntilles: Works fine for me. |
| 02:33.00 | bobbyw | gizmo aim transport |
| 02:33.03 | bobbyw | errr |
| 02:33.06 | bobbyw | wrong keyboard |
| 02:33.07 | bobbyw | lolsne |
| 02:33.09 | bobbyw | lolsend |
| 02:33.24 | zerojay | Perhaps the version of the transport on your server doesn't support avatars. |
| 02:33.25 | GeneralAntilles | Huh |
| 02:33.36 | GeneralAntilles | I don't want the avatars |
| 02:33.43 | GeneralAntilles | It makes the applet useless |
| 02:33.43 | zerojay | Ooh. |
| 02:33.49 | GeneralAntilles | I can only fit about 4 people in there |
| 02:33.56 | GeneralAntilles | as opposed to a dozen or so |
| 02:34.14 | zerojay | Well, that's the reason why it's speed contacts. |
| 02:34.34 | zerojay | If you need more, just use Contacts. |
| 02:34.38 | GeneralAntilles | Psh |
| 02:34.56 | zerojay | Allowing it to scroll the whole list would be nice though. |
| 02:35.12 | GeneralAntilles | I just want it to work the way it had always worked since before rtcomm |
| 02:35.23 | GeneralAntilles | Avatars are pointless and stupid when you're trying to save space. |
| 02:35.52 | GeneralAntilles | 12 is almost exactly the number of people on my buddy list that I want to contact "speedily". |
| 02:35.54 | GeneralAntilles | Not 4 |
| 02:36.36 | zerojay | I just put the people I talk to most in there. |
| 02:36.47 | zerojay | Good enough for me... and looks so much nicer with the avatars. |
| 02:36.59 | zerojay | The option would be nice though. |
| 02:37.07 | zerojay | File a bug. |
| 02:37.11 | bobbyw | I have 5 friends, but two of them are made of duct tape |
| 02:37.38 | GeneralAntilles | Boxy Brown? http://is1.okcupid.com/users/624/422/6254236457383917365/mt1124122368.jpg |
| 02:38.40 | bobbyw | Guys, i'm having a hell of a time getting my sony ericsson phone to give gprs to my n800 |
| 02:39.12 | zerojay | bobbyw: Out of curiousity, which SE phone do you have? |
| 02:39.17 | bobbyw | I don't think gaim lets me click links... |
| 02:39.27 | bobbyw | K700i |
| 02:39.35 | zerojay | Not a bad phone. |
| 02:39.50 | zerojay | I've got some bugs open on it still, unfortunately. |
| 02:40.13 | bobbyw | It's not bad. Would be better if i could use gprs |
| 02:41.05 | bobbyw | Someone posted on a comment in a blog how to fix it but their writing was horrible |
| 02:41.22 | zerojay | I'd like it more if the Chinese version of the phone wouldn't misinterpret one of our dialog boxes and start printing out solid black blocks instead. |
| 02:49.58 | bobbyw | hmmmm, some guy said it worked instantly with his k700i |
| 02:50.05 | bobbyw | I wonder if there is an internet setting I need to change |
| 02:52.19 | GeneralAntilles | Out of interest, any words for the Samsung SCH-A717? |
| 02:55.24 | zerojay | I think we just did some builds for it. |
| 02:55.33 | zerojay | Within the last two weeks. |
| 02:55.45 | zerojay | I don't remember there being any major issues. |
| 02:56.40 | zerojay | I believe it's a prerelease... or maybe it's available now. |
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| 02:57.12 | GeneralAntilles | Hopefully it's available now. |
| 02:57.18 | GeneralAntilles | as it's sitting on my desk. ;) |
| 02:57.34 | zerojay | Okay.. well, it must be pretty newly released then. |
| 02:57.49 | GeneralAntilles | May or June I think |
| 02:58.21 | zerojay | I might be getting confused then.. or maybe Cingular is just slow as shit rolling out new phones. |
| 02:59.15 | zerojay | Our testers were getting annoyed trying to play our games on the Sony Ericsson P1. |
| 02:59.27 | zerojay | It's one of those smart phone deals with multiple characters on each key. |
| 02:59.39 | zerojay | And we use the number pad exclusively. |
| 03:00.01 | zerojay | So for every choice they made, they had to press the ALT key first and then the number. |
| 03:00.03 | zerojay | Ugh. |
| 03:00.46 | GeneralAntilles | Haha |
| 03:00.48 | GeneralAntilles | That's awesome |
| 03:01.19 | zerojay | We're just going to let them press the same key but without ALT.. we'll just change the keymap to accept the letters on the keys instead of the numbers. |
| 03:01.19 | GeneralAntilles | I guess there's no way to set the mode to numbers only? |
| 03:01.25 | GeneralAntilles | Or change the keyma |
| 03:01.25 | _Monkey | GeneralAntilles: that doesn't look right |
| 03:01.27 | GeneralAntilles | erm, yeah. |
| 03:01.28 | zerojay | That's what they said. |
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| 03:01.41 | zerojay | The problem is that the phone is in Romania. |
| 03:01.49 | zerojay | So I can't get the keymap directly. |
| 03:02.08 | zerojay | I have to attempt to explain to the Romanian testers how to get the keymap from our debug mode in the game. |
| 03:02.34 | GeneralAntilles | Language barrier much? |
| 03:02.41 | zerojay | I know it doesn't sound like a hard task, but these are the guys that send me doctored up emulator images and call them "screenshots". |
| 03:03.11 | zerojay | Most of them know english at least a little. The problem is that they just aren't very good workers. |
| 03:03.26 | zerojay | If you're a bug tester, you need to be very, very specific. |
| 03:03.29 | zerojay | And precise. |
| 03:03.32 | GeneralAntilles | Too much communism over there. |
| 03:04.04 | zerojay | I get bugs like... "Occurs: character says wrong thing Should occur: character says right thing." |
| 03:04.14 | zerojay | Well what the fuck is the wrong and right thing?!? |
| 03:04.41 | GeneralAntilles | Hahaha |
| 03:04.55 | GeneralAntilles | -1, Obvious |
| 03:05.07 | zerojay | It also doesn't help that they're something like 8 hours ahead of us, so whenever they don't understand and fuck up... well, we gotta send an e-mail and hope that when we come in tomorrow, they understood. |
| 03:05.42 | zerojay | When you have a week with a prerelease phone... well, you don't have many days to waste on that. |
| 03:06.39 | zerojay | I feel bad complaining about them because they are all genuinely good people that really want to help. |
| 03:06.44 | zerojay | They just aren't any good at it. |
| 03:07.09 | bobbyw | hmmm |
| 03:07.13 | bobbyw | I'm confused |
| 03:07.22 | bobbyw | when I use gprs from t-mobile |
| 03:07.29 | bobbyw | should I be paying 35 dollars a month or 6 |
| 03:07.34 | bobbyw | to get the internet to my n |
| 03:07.38 | bobbyw | n800 |
| 03:07.54 | zerojay | When it comes to data, round up, Bobby. |
| 03:08.00 | zerojay | Especially if you are in Canada. |
| 03:08.20 | zerojay | $100 for 100MB... pffffffft. |
| 03:11.30 | bobbyw | wow |
| 03:11.39 | bobbyw | alright, nevermind |
| 03:11.48 | bobbyw | I thought my phone would pull the pages like usual |
| 03:12.00 | GeneralAntilles | AT&T = 20$/mo for "Unlimited" |
| 03:12.02 | bobbyw | since I can pull any webpage/file through my phone for free |
| 03:19.10 | bobbyw | there I go thinking |
| 03:23.07 | bobbyw | should I buy an sdhc card or non sdhc for my n800? |
| 03:23.20 | bobbyw | I read somewhere they were developing support for sdhc |
| 03:23.25 | GeneralAntilles | SDHC |
| 03:23.31 | GeneralAntilles | If you're at the latest firmware you're good to go. |
| 03:23.50 | bobbyw | how do I update my firmware |
| 03:23.58 | bobbyw | I haven't seen an option for that anywhere |
| 03:25.03 | bobbyw | I mean, I just bought this thing yesterday |
| 03:25.18 | GeneralAntilles | http://www.nokiausa.com/A4410958 |
| 03:25.20 | bobbyw | so it's brand new, does that nessicarily mean I have the newest firmware? |
| 03:25.28 | GeneralAntilles | You probably have 26-8 |
| 03:25.34 | bobbyw | egh, everyone keeps giving me links in gaim, I can't figure out how to open them! |
| 03:25.35 | GeneralAntilles | which doesn't have the SDHC patch |
| 03:25.39 | bobbyw | lemme type that into my desktop |
| 03:25.40 | GeneralAntilles | Haha |
| 03:34.02 | bobbyw | if I do this update, I'm going to lose all my settings? |
| 03:34.06 | bobbyw | and programs? |
| 03:34.39 | bobbyw | it says use the backup-restore utility, that will save EVERYTHING? |
| 03:34.42 | bobbyw | hmm |
| 03:35.12 | [31d1] | how is babby formed? |
| 03:35.45 | bobbyw | how girl get pregnant? |
| 03:39.27 | GeneralAntilles | Backup restore will keep the repos and most of your system and application settings |
| 03:39.36 | GeneralAntilles | You'll have to reinstall the applications themselves, though. |
| 03:40.04 | bobbyw | alright |
| 03:40.07 | bobbyw | might as well get it done |
| 03:41.40 | GeneralAntilles | Firmware updates are supposedly going to get easier in the future |
| 03:42.18 | GeneralAntilles | I've been wiping and updating various IT devices since 2005, it gets tiresome after a while. <_< |
| 03:43.03 | bobbyw | I guess I'm going to take the plunge. See you in six hours when I'm back operational |
| 03:43.11 | bobbyw | ...is SDHC the only feature I'm getting out of this? |
| 03:43.23 | GeneralAntilles | There's are a couple other updates |
| 03:43.27 | GeneralAntilles | but SDHC is the major thing |
| 03:43.38 | GeneralAntilles | The other option is to run the risk of burned out SDHC cards, though. |
| 03:43.41 | GeneralAntilles | So it's worth it. ;) |
| 03:43.55 | GeneralAntilles | Also, setup xchat on the PC if you have any trouble. |
| 03:46.16 | bobbyw | burned out sdhc? |
| 03:48.02 | bobbyw | eh, whatevs. time to delete everything I've done in the past 2 days |
| 03:49.02 | bobbyw | one more question |
| 03:49.23 | bobbyw | are the classes in sdhc cards better or worse higher or lower |
| 03:49.59 | bobbyw | eh. gotta go |
| 03:49.59 | bobbyw | thx |
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| 04:35.38 | hieppo | anyone in the house |
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| 05:18.33 | bobbywaz | alright, after a firmware upgrade and a long time of reconfigure/reinstalling, I'm back |
| 05:18.37 | bobbywaz | this time, with xchat |
| 05:19.01 | bobbywaz | a big thank you to the dude that helped me out |
| 05:20.53 | GeneralAntilles | Sure thing. :) |
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| 05:34.53 | zoran | someone knows the channel to contact administrator of nickserv? |
| 05:36.38 | GeneralAntilles | #freenode? |
| 05:36.45 | zoran | yep, found that |
| 05:36.49 | GeneralAntilles | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:36.53 | zoran | :) |
| 05:36.54 | GeneralAntilles | To find a staffer |
| 05:36.56 | zerojay | Check the MOTD. |
| 05:38.38 | zoran | huh, somebody else owns my nick |
| 05:38.47 | zoran | talking to admin now |
| 05:46.37 | zoran | hm, could be interesing to know what I got as an answer for my question on #freenode |
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| 06:01.36 | zoran | Airs |
| 06:07.55 | pupnik | ? |
| 06:08.48 | zoran | uh, typo |
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| 06:27.06 | sciboy | Any progress zoran? |
| 06:30.26 | zoran | ah, folks sait I should wait, since the nick is "private" |
| 06:30.30 | zoran | *said |
| 06:31.00 | zoran | like Joseph K in "process" |
| 06:37.13 | sciboy | Okey dokey, so is there an N800 emulator somewhere? |
| 06:38.31 | sciboy | I know that for development under a linux platform it isn't quite as useful, but I want to play around before my real one gets here. =P |
| 06:39.49 | zoran | I've heard of linux arm bin player, just what you want |
| 06:40.04 | zoran | is should be the part of sdk |
| 06:41.38 | zoran | uh, cannot find the name |
| 06:42.56 | zoran | xephyr. probably |
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| 06:55.54 | zoran | sciboy, it is really xephyr |
| 07:01.04 | sciboy | Cheers |
| 07:01.32 | zoran | k |
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| 07:16.49 | sciboy | Is bora the current release? |
| 07:17.06 | zoran | ah, 3.2, I think |
| 07:17.14 | zoran | bora is probably 3.0 |
| 07:17.22 | zoran | but, I don't have n800 |
| 07:17.26 | sciboy | Project: maemo 3.2 Bora SDK |
| 07:17.26 | sciboy | Version: 3.2 |
| 07:17.26 | sciboy | Baseline: Internet Tablet OS 2007 Edition 4.2007.26-8 |
| 07:17.27 | sciboy | Date: 2007-07-05 |
| 07:17.27 | _Monkey | 1995 |
| 07:17.32 | zoran | cool |
| 07:17.36 | zoran | yes |
| 07:17.53 | zoran | yes, as I know |
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| 07:25.28 | sciboy | Darn, too much of a pain under AMD64. |
| 07:25.51 | czr | it is so heavy? |
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| 08:16.18 | zodttd | hi pupnik |
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| 08:19.42 | sciboy | Oh hi zodttd. |
| 08:19.59 | zodttd | hi |
| 08:20.14 | sciboy | Know you from GP2X. =) |
| 08:20.27 | czr | hey zodttd, got yours yet? |
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| 08:21.13 | zottd | back |
| 08:21.37 | sciboy | Hehe. |
| 08:22.19 | sciboy | Anyway, thanks for all the great stuff you did on the GP2X. |
| 08:24.34 | zottd | np :) |
| 08:24.44 | zottd | sciboy is your username at gp32x? |
| 08:25.08 | sciboy | Yeah, don't expect to see much there though I was a consumer. |
| 08:25.38 | zottd | heh :P |
| 08:26.09 | sciboy | I'm an artist/animator not a programmer, luckily the N800 should be much easier for me to give scripting a shot. |
| 08:26.14 | zottd | Thanks either way though. :) |
| 08:26.18 | zottd | Im thinking of getting a N800 too |
| 08:26.23 | zottd | some good deals lately |
| 08:26.42 | sciboy | Mine's still on order. =) |
| 08:27.18 | sciboy | I jumped on it as soon as it became available in my area. |
| 08:28.25 | sciboy | Anything in particular about it that you want to do? |
| 08:30.23 | sciboy | I'll be using mine for reference while I work, although the fact it's got a debian derivative means I'll be getting tons more out of it. |
| 08:31.23 | zottd | I wanted to try gpSP if nobody has yet |
| 08:31.28 | zottd | Then depending, psx4all |
| 08:32.07 | sciboy | I'm curious how that would perform compared to the GP2X. |
| 08:32.18 | zottd | me too actually |
| 08:33.09 | sciboy | zottd, You taken a look at the SDK with scratchbox? |
| 08:34.09 | zottd | nope |
| 08:34.11 | zottd | scratchbox? |
| 08:34.12 | _Monkey | hmmm... scratchbox is a cross-compilation toolkit for maemo application development. Homepage: http://www.scratchbox.org/ Maemo 3.x (bora/N800) tutorial: http://qurl.org/yN Maemo 2.2 (gregale/770) tutorial: http://qurl.org/zN A walkthrough for 3.x: http://qurl.org/0O Scratchbox Downloads: http://qurl.org/1O |
| 08:34.19 | zottd | :) |
| 08:35.12 | sciboy | Once set up with Xephyr it should let you play with the maemo environment without an actual n800 |
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| 08:39.00 | sciboy | I haven't tried it, but the install looks simple enough under ia32 |
| 08:39.28 | czr | the sdk is mainly useful for building sw |
| 08:39.42 | czr | the lower level stuff you do, the more un-useful it becomes. |
| 08:39.58 | sciboy | It's a starting point. |
| 08:40.22 | czr | sure. and you still need to build your software in order to run on the device. |
| 08:40.42 | czr | zottd, there are also vmware images that contains already setup sbox+sdk. |
| 08:46.46 | zottd | cool, I think I will have the setup ready to go easy enough |
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| 08:47.03 | zottd | But I'm not really well fit to be splurging money |
| 08:47.53 | sciboy | Yeah don't be in a hurry to do that. |
| 08:48.35 | zottd | Normally I get hardware donated, or money from the community for my ports to pay for the hardware. It doesnt look like that will happen with this project. :P |
| 08:52.22 | czr | zottd, there was a developer discount when n800 launched. with emphasis on people who worked on some stuff for the 770 |
| 08:56.56 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 09:00.22 | czr | morn Jaffa |
| 09:00.53 | sciboy | zottd, http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4573 |
| 09:02.46 | sciboy | There's also this thread, maybe you could do some *cough* hinting, http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8002 |
| 09:05.50 | zottd | back, sorry. :P |
| 09:07.27 | sciboy | No worries. =) |
| 09:09.35 | czr | uhm. anyone know what's up with dbus-send when sending string:'hello world'? it seems to split the ' ' into separate arguments |
| 09:09.52 | sciboy | "? |
| 09:09.57 | czr | nope. |
| 09:10.02 | czr | doing proper quoting. |
| 09:10.15 | czr | I'm thinking that the argument passing in run-standalone.sh is broken |
| 09:10.25 | sciboy | \? |
| 09:10.35 | czr | sciboy, you have SDK running? |
| 09:10.49 | sciboy | Nope, I'll be sticking to python and web development. |
| 09:10.54 | suihkulokki | well it's a shell script, so argument-with-space passing is broken by principle |
| 09:11.05 | czr | suihkulokki, it wouldn't have to be. there are ways to do it properly. |
| 09:11.12 | czr | but any hints on it :-) |
| 09:11.20 | czr | run-standalone.sh dbus-send --print-reply --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.statusbar /com/nokia/statusbar com.nokia.statusbar.system_note_dialog string:Hello\ world int32:2 |
| 09:11.37 | czr | nothing complicated as you can see. |
| 09:11.49 | sciboy | string:'Hello\ world' |
| 09:11.55 | czr | sciboy, no |
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| 09:13.37 | czr | meh. run-standalone uses $* to launch the program |
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| 09:19.27 | czr | fixed. |
| 09:19.54 | czr | suihkulokki, FYI, if it's broken in _a_ script doesn't make it broken by principle (when done correctly). |
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| 09:31.43 | czr | suihkulokki, https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2114 for the fix. |
| 09:33.27 | suihkulokki | rite |
| 09:34.00 | czr | granted, with 4 different ways of doing it, no wonder it gets sometimes done incorrectly :-) |
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| 10:37.11 | sciboy | I'm really looking forward to getting my N800 and joining this community. |
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| 10:59.35 | amr | anyone here any experience with using thememaker? |
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| 11:11.15 | amr | great, i think ive got the whitescreen |
| 11:11.29 | amr | restarted it after changing a canola |
| 11:11.39 | amr | starts up completely white |
| 11:11.47 | amr | now ive got a white bar on the left going up |
| 11:11.51 | amr | and the rest is a grey colour |
| 11:11.55 | amr | with other random lines going up |
| 11:14.52 | amr | if i press buttons on the left |
| 11:14.56 | amr | it looks like it responds and opens the menu |
| 11:14.58 | amr | just its garbled |
| 11:20.13 | GeneralAntilles | You try putting in a corrupted theme? |
| 11:20.45 | amr | no |
| 11:20.50 | amr | http://farm1.static.flickr.com/149/362764796_7772900717.jpg |
| 11:20.53 | amr | its similar to that |
| 11:21.12 | GeneralAntilles | I think that's hardware |
| 11:21.14 | sciboy | Uh oh, that isn't good. |
| 11:21.35 | amr | great |
| 11:21.55 | amr | is it fixable or is it a return job |
| 11:22.22 | GeneralAntilles | I think it's return. I'm not really familiar with the issue, though. |
| 11:22.24 | sciboy | If it is the WSOD then it's a return job from what I've read. |
| 11:22.35 | sciboy | Much feared. |
| 11:23.18 | amr | yeah, i thought things were going too well for once |
| 11:23.18 | amr | :| |
| 11:23.29 | GeneralAntilles | How old is it? |
| 11:23.30 | amr | store where i got it is closed |
| 11:23.34 | amr | urm, 2 months? |
| 11:23.36 | amr | maybe 3 |
| 11:23.56 | GeneralAntilles | Have to send it to Nokia |
| 11:24.01 | amr | oh christ |
| 11:24.07 | GeneralAntilles | Maybe see it back by Christmas. >_> |
| 11:24.10 | amr | well, ill send it to who i bought it from |
| 11:27.38 | amr | what even causes it |
| 11:29.02 | sciboy | Can't remember what it was, |
| 11:29.07 | sciboy | "WSOD is caused by a failure in the LCD controller chip that breaks the screen" |
| 11:29.13 | sciboy | Google brought that up. |
| 11:29.14 | amr | haha fantastic |
| 11:29.27 | GeneralAntilles | Don't recall exactly what was causing them to fail. |
| 11:29.56 | pupnik | oh i am a dunceboy |
| 11:30.31 | pupnik | even if i have target as /media/mmc1, a game data .deb package needs to download to rootfs |
| 11:30.39 | pupnik | so .debs are fundamentally wrong for game data |
| 11:30.47 | sciboy | Ouch |
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| 11:31.50 | GeneralAntilles | Any way to have the deb for the game engine to run an installer application to put the data where it needs to be then remove itself? |
| 11:32.31 | pupnik | i don't see how |
| 11:33.32 | sciboy | Look at the msttcorefonts package in debian. |
| 11:34.49 | GeneralAntilles | pupnik: Guess it's time to build a game installer, then. ;) |
| 11:35.27 | pupnik | good advice sciboy |
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| 11:36.18 | amr | im gutted |
| 11:36.24 | amr | i used my tablet daily :( |
| 11:36.44 | sciboy | Real bummer. |
| 11:37.42 | GeneralAntilles | Time to plot down for one of those tasty new N800s. ;) |
| 11:37.46 | GeneralAntilles | *erm, plop |
| 11:38.07 | pupnik | the msttcorefonts installs a bash script, then uses a postinst script to run it. the script then gets the fonts from a set of known repository urls |
| 11:38.08 | sciboy | plop and tasty in the same sentence, nice mental image. |
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| 11:39.08 | sciboy | pupnik, How does it handle removal though? |
| 11:39.18 | amr | now, do i wait for the new tablets or get an n800 :P |
| 11:39.20 | sciboy | It's important that users have that option. |
| 11:39.41 | pupnik | it uses debian/prerm which does a rm -r on the dirs |
| 11:39.44 | GeneralAntilles | Well, if you spend ~230 now, will you have ~400 available around January? |
| 11:39.47 | sciboy | amr, The N800 has the features I want and will be supported officially for quite a while, I went for it. |
| 11:40.03 | amr | oh, i may go for it then |
| 11:40.13 | doublec | the n800 is well worth getting |
| 11:40.22 | amr | no wsod issues are there :P |
| 11:40.29 | GeneralAntilles | I can attest to the fact that the N800 is a very worthwhile upgrade over the 770. |
| 11:40.37 | GeneralAntilles | Speed and responsiveness are lightyears ahead. |
| 11:41.10 | pupnik | btw i got a new nes emulator running, but erm... it's not fast enough on 770 |
| 11:41.22 | pupnik | if any n800 users want to try it i can share |
| 11:42.21 | amr | lol |
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| 11:43.00 | sciboy | pupnik, Speaking of emulation, zodttd is around. |
| 11:43.21 | pupnik | yeah we talk :) |
| 11:44.24 | pupnik | lol |
| 11:45.22 | sciboy | =P I'm just a hopeless fanboy. |
| 11:45.47 | pupnik | you want to work on gpfe sciboy? |
| 11:46.29 | pupnik | more or less just needs a reworked main.c |
| 11:46.33 | sciboy | I only go as far as Python, sorry. =) |
| 11:47.01 | pupnik | do you have n800? |
| 11:47.19 | sciboy | Not yet, ordered and waiting. =) |
| 11:49.21 | sciboy | I'll be doing little apps and games but I'm not a programmer so anything real is beyond me. |
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| 12:09.33 | pupnik | xlthanks for the maemo.org documentatino reorg |
| 12:23.43 | dockane | got my n800 today, together with two hcsd cards (8gb).. works flawlessly. amazing device. |
| 12:26.21 | GeneralAntilles | 'grats, dockane, no just install Quake and get to encoding some video for it. ;) |
| 12:26.24 | GeneralAntilles | *now |
| 12:26.51 | pupnik | did you try some of the mods GeneralAntilles ? |
| 12:27.00 | GeneralAntilles | Not yet. |
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| 12:27.10 | GeneralAntilles | Looks at the topic and nothing in there was all that interesting. |
| 12:29.50 | GeneralAntilles | Looked* |
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| 12:43.16 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/\InfoNES_0.01_armel.tgz |
| 12:43.21 | pupnik | -\ |
| 12:48.07 | flip^ | InfoNES ? |
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| 12:49.10 | pupnik | InfoNES is a NES emulator from japan |
| 12:50.14 | pupnik | i also have a tweak to fceu that i'd like a n800 user to test |
| 12:51.02 | pupnik | nice |
| 12:51.17 | pupnik | gla55: do you want to port littlejohn ? :) :) |
| 12:52.21 | pupnik | anyway let me know how bad infones stutters on n800 |
| 12:52.32 | pupnik | and i'll put a fceu binary up if you want to test that |
| 12:52.36 | pupnik | bbl |
| 12:53.21 | gla55 | pupnik: i don't have time for hobby things in a while :< |
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| 13:05.40 | sciboy | dockane, Can't wait to get mine, should be a week or two. |
| 13:07.15 | sciboy | What's your favourite way to type? I'll be doing quite a bit but I'm not getting a bluetooth keyboard for it. |
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| 13:32.02 | dockane | what is binary of the editor application called coming with the n800? |
| 13:32.37 | dockane | osso-notes? |
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| 13:36.13 | playya | maybe maemo pad |
| 13:36.29 | dockane | i would like to use it to edit files in /etc |
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| 13:40.22 | dockane | "ps aux" says its osso_notes |
| 13:42.28 | dockane | arg.. osso_notes does not take any parameter :( |
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| 14:01.45 | dockane | and yes: i do not like vi |
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| 14:08.07 | GeneralAntilles | apt-get install nano, dockane |
| 14:10.35 | playya | vi is great |
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| 15:31.01 | Blacksitox | hi |
| 15:31.01 | _Monkey | bonjour, Blacksitox |
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| 15:35.49 | IsoTeemu | Hi, Im trying to get n800 work with wrt-350n, but without success. Any ideas? |
| 15:36.34 | zoran | more data? |
| 15:37.01 | zoran | 350n could be new linksys? |
| 15:37.07 | IsoTeemu | yeah |
| 15:37.22 | IsoTeemu | It doesn't see SSID, nor connect manually |
| 15:37.45 | IsoTeemu | everything else works, from laptops to Nintendo DS |
| 15:37.55 | zoran | k, you hide ssid? |
| 15:38.02 | IsoTeemu | no |
| 15:38.09 | IsoTeemu | not that stupid |
| 15:38.23 | zoran | it is a good approach |
| 15:38.28 | zoran | just a sec |
| 15:39.09 | zoran | k, let's try again |
| 15:39.14 | zoran | what is the protocol? |
| 15:40.13 | IsoTeemu | N, but it works backwards compatible |
| 15:40.25 | IsoTeemu | DS, witch works with B, works |
| 15:40.48 | IsoTeemu | and powerbooks, witch uses G, works too flawless |
| 15:41.02 | zoran | k, take g as your protocol |
| 15:41.18 | zoran | on my 54gl I chose just g |
| 15:41.29 | zoran | what encryption |
| 15:41.48 | IsoTeemu | It doesn't allow it to be changed. |
| 15:41.59 | IsoTeemu | mixed (b,g,n) or disabled |
| 15:42.00 | zoran | hm ,mast be |
| 15:42.04 | zoran | *must |
| 15:42.35 | zoran | some arrow down with options b, g, bg, something only... |
| 15:42.39 | IsoTeemu | and currently without encryption, but I have tested with everything |
| 15:42.52 | zoran | it works fine as wpa2 aes |
| 15:43.15 | zoran | I have it and works fine with laptop and 770 |
| 15:43.21 | pupnik | osso-statusbar-cpu? |
| 15:43.22 | _Monkey | osso-statusbar-cpu is at http://www.maemo-hackers.org/wiki/OssoStatusbarCpu |
| 15:43.25 | pupnik | cpu-load-applet? |
| 15:43.39 | IsoTeemu | I would assume too that it would allow me to change protocol, but it dont |
| 15:43.55 | zoran | I just cannot believe |
| 15:44.07 | zoran | lemme find the manual |
| 15:44.37 | IsoTeemu | my cisco-sertified friend tried to get n800 to work with it, but gave up after he even got his N-series phone to work |
| 15:45.01 | zoran | how did you turn off encryption? |
| 15:45.18 | zoran | the same way, arrow let you choose the protocol |
| 15:45.26 | czr | runs with CCMP here fine (although the device shows WPA, but..) |
| 15:45.33 | IsoTeemu | wireless security -> security mode: disabled |
| 15:45.35 | czr | (different AP though) |
| 15:45.54 | zoran | k, have a screen about b,g, or similar? |
| 15:46.05 | IsoTeemu | no |
| 15:46.15 | zoran | must to |
| 15:46.15 | IsoTeemu | Network Mode: mixed or disabled |
| 15:46.22 | zoran | ah! |
| 15:46.31 | IsoTeemu | "If you have Wireless-N, Wireless-G and 802.11b devices in your network, then keep the default setting, Mixed. If you want to disable wireless networking, select Disabled." |
| 15:46.36 | czr | "Network mode: disabled". how logical is that :-) |
| 15:47.02 | zoran | k, IsoTeemu, I do believe you |
| 15:47.11 | zoran | just cannot believe linksys |
| 15:47.11 | IsoTeemu | and n800 gets really confused about neighborhood networks when 350 is powered |
| 15:47.26 | zoran | could you changethe channel? |
| 15:47.50 | IsoTeemu | i can, but it didn't help |
| 15:48.09 | zoran | looking for pdf manual |
| 15:48.44 | zoran | he-he, no 350n on linksys site |
| 15:50.01 | zoran | uh, javascript |
| 15:50.09 | zoran | those guys are unbelievable |
| 15:50.13 | IsoTeemu | hmm, when I rebooted 350, n800 did find it for a sec |
| 15:50.42 | zoran | probably no linux version? |
| 15:50.50 | IsoTeemu | it is |
| 15:51.01 | IsoTeemu | or older (US) versions were |
| 15:51.04 | zoran | works now? |
| 15:51.20 | IsoTeemu | no, after it was booted it was lost |
| 15:51.38 | zoran | how big is manual pdf? |
| 15:52.11 | IsoTeemu | dont know |
| 15:52.20 | zoran | have a cd? |
| 15:52.25 | IsoTeemu | _had_ |
| 15:52.34 | zoran | :) |
| 15:52.59 | zoran | k, I stoped to downlaod it |
| 15:53.46 | zoran | they even don't give a file size |
| 15:53.48 | IsoTeemu | but it was pretty much useless |
| 15:54.59 | zoran | with my 770 I done it in a sec |
| 15:55.19 | zoran | opened new conn from general screen |
| 15:55.35 | zoran | u know, memory, apps, sound ... |
| 15:55.41 | IsoTeemu | yeah yeah |
| 15:55.49 | zoran | it is something like conn manager or else |
| 15:55.53 | zoran | then new conn |
| 15:56.01 | IsoTeemu | this is only wifi it (n800) has failed to connect |
| 15:56.16 | zoran | k, try again |
| 15:56.18 | zoran | new conn |
| 15:56.33 | zoran | then choose what is has |
| 15:56.39 | zoran | encrypted, I think |
| 15:57.28 | IsoTeemu | sec, i need to reboot 350 |
| 15:57.32 | zoran | I had option as I hide ssid |
| 15:57.37 | zoran | t ocould remove it |
| 15:57.42 | zoran | You* |
| 16:00.41 | zoran | news? |
| 16:01.06 | IsoTeemu | "network connection error" |
| 16:02.20 | zoran | could you find b or g option elsewhere? |
| 16:02.47 | IsoTeemu | no, there is't |
| 16:02.51 | zoran | it is good you tell about this router |
| 16:03.02 | zoran | I had some distant idea to have it |
| 16:04.16 | IsoTeemu | I'll put my 0.2€ for problem being in n800 |
| 16:05.22 | zoran | don;t give up so fast |
| 16:05.40 | zoran | could you connect _any_ ap? |
| 16:06.02 | zoran | friends or neighbor's? |
| 16:06.30 | IsoTeemu | I can |
| 16:06.38 | IsoTeemu | and I have |
| 16:06.47 | zoran | let's that be the first step :) |
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| 16:07.02 | pauliukas | Any way of playing Windows Media streaming audio? |
| 16:07.04 | IsoTeemu | it connected! |
| 16:07.16 | zoran | \o/ |
| 16:07.52 | IsoTeemu | but it's still totally confused about networks |
| 16:07.53 | zoran | do you see it on 350n? |
| 16:08.09 | zoran | have you let it connect to 350n???? |
| 16:08.15 | zoran | mac address? |
| 16:08.37 | IsoTeemu | 00:19:4F:9E:A8:83 |
| 16:09.06 | zoran | no, add it to your "let in" spool |
| 16:09.28 | IsoTeemu | it connected and net worked |
| 16:09.38 | zoran | I chose to filter addresses and had to add laptop and 770 |
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| 16:09.49 | IsoTeemu | I'll test if it can do it again |
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| 16:10.15 | zoran | change the channel to 1, 11 or 6 |
| 16:10.16 | _Monkey | zoran: that doesn't look right |
| 16:10.47 | IsoTeemu | it works, after putting SSID hidden |
| 16:10.56 | zoran | \o/ |
| 16:10.59 | IsoTeemu | strange... |
| 16:11.10 | zoran | you hide ssid! |
| 16:13.38 | IsoTeemu | shame, now I cant annoy my neighbours with it |
| 16:14.05 | zoran | you could set music loud |
| 16:14.53 | IsoTeemu | too obvious. Only young person in whole building |
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| 16:16.04 | IsoTeemu | well, life would be boring if everything would be perfect |
| 16:16.07 | IsoTeemu | thaks, zoran |
| 16:16.18 | zoran | :) |
| 16:16.28 | zoran | if no probs, no fun |
| 16:26.06 | zoran | ah, thereis dd-wrt for 350n! |
| 16:28.43 | pupnik | my wlan doesn't even make it from one end of the house to the other |
| 16:28.55 | zoran | what router? |
| 16:28.55 | _Monkey | router is at .1 |
| 16:29.06 | zoran | I liek _Monkey |
| 16:29.15 | zoran | hm? |
| 16:29.19 | pupnik | it the german government's restriction of AP's to 100mw |
| 16:30.13 | zoran | what is a distance you could have? |
| 16:30.15 | pupnik | so even a small business i worked for couldn't cover their building with one ap |
| 16:30.37 | zoran | in meters? |
| 16:30.39 | pupnik | brick/concrete walls are hard to penetrate |
| 16:31.10 | pupnik | i get about 10-15 meters through these walls |
| 16:31.21 | pupnik | more like 10 |
| 16:31.31 | zoran | what dist you need? |
| 16:31.59 | pupnik | no need. it's just annoying |
| 16:32.06 | zoran | :) |
| 16:32.11 | zoran | linksys? |
| 16:32.25 | pupnik | it's a netgear 108mb/s something or other |
| 16:32.48 | zoran | I had issue with asus wifi card on my freebsd laptop |
| 16:33.13 | zoran | after changing it to atheros based one, all probs have left |
| 16:33.32 | zoran | and this wrt54gl works like a charm |
| 16:33.58 | zoran | some netgear stuff is said to be strange |
| 16:34.05 | zoran | not for all |
| 16:34.10 | zoran | just for posters |
| 16:35.40 | zoran | k, fabric firmware could be tuned to follow local rules |
| 16:36.33 | zoran | there are linux based that make it reachable from 2-3 fold distance |
| 16:36.57 | pupnik | yes |
| 16:37.32 | zoran | if I recall, those version let user change the signal strenght |
| 16:37.53 | zoran | changing the channel is one of things user should do |
| 16:38.03 | zoran | it is better to be on 1, 6 and 11 |
| 16:38.15 | zoran | the signal is stronger there |
| 16:40.15 | zoran | wgt624? |
| 16:41.15 | pupnik | interesting, i'll experiment with channels |
| 16:41.39 | zoran | the channels intersept, except on those locations |
| 16:41.47 | zoran | in europe |
| 16:44.53 | pauliukas | How can I stream Windows Media audio on my 770? |
| 16:47.52 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.05 | pauliukas | there's no vlc or something for the 770? |
| 16:48.54 | pupnik | mplayer can play streams, i'm sure many other media players can |
| 16:48.59 | pupnik | canola, ukmp, kagu |
| 16:49.12 | pupnik | and the buildin audio player |
| 16:49.21 | pauliukas | built-in can only play MP3 streams |
| 16:49.24 | pauliukas | not windows media |
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| 16:50.12 | zoran | good! |
| 16:50.14 | Andy80 | hi |
| 16:50.14 | _Monkey | que tal, Andy80 |
| 16:50.30 | pupnik | i don't do windows. good luck |
| 16:50.38 | Andy80 | anyone of you remember the URL of that project to speed up the mmc on n770? |
| 16:50.56 | pupnik | search fanoush mmcplus |
| 16:51.08 | pupnik | or 52mhz |
| 16:53.30 | Andy80 | found: http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/ |
| 16:53.31 | Andy80 | :) |
| 16:53.37 | Andy80 | anyone of you has tested that patch? |
| 16:55.41 | zoran | fanoush did :) |
| 16:58.48 | Andy80 | no... I mean: is anyone of you using it? |
| 17:02.43 | pupnik | not atm - i am testing with low performance to get a baseline |
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| 17:03.23 | pupnik | i have heard it's many tiems faster |
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| 17:06.51 | bobbywaz | hey guys. i have an interesting dilemma. when i am using google talk / aim transport, and the icon is online and available in the sysem tray, i don't get ims unless i open a chat window first |
| 17:08.30 | Andy80 | the procedure to install the new kernel is the same to install a new firmware, described here: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HOWTO_FlashLatestNokiaImageWithLinux ? |
| 17:14.38 | Andy80 | I've followed the procedure and this is the output: http://pastebin.ca/735454 |
| 17:15.07 | bobbywaz | nevermind. i was siged on somewhere else |
| 17:15.09 | Andy80 | then I've powered on the n770 and checked in a terminal the uname -a output |
| 17:15.27 | Andy80 | but it doesn't look like a new kernel.... |
| 17:15.30 | Andy80 | what's wrong? |
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| 17:26.07 | kaltsi | do you want to just load that kernel or flash it permanently? |
| 17:27.21 | Andy80 | just load and boot it to test (like he suggest to do) |
| 17:27.25 | Andy80 | then I want to flash it |
| 17:29.29 | kaltsi | right, I actually have the same problem.. I'm not sure how to just load a kernel image :-/ |
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| 17:33.47 | Blacksitox | hi |
| 17:33.58 | bobbywaz | hi |
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| 17:38.05 | Tu13es | :-\ |
| 17:38.09 | Tu13es | I'm tempted to buy an iPod Touch |
| 17:38.26 | Atarii | u fool |
| 17:38.44 | Atarii | kick ban kick ban! |
| 17:38.53 | Tu13es | lol |
| 17:38.56 | Tu13es | i know, i know |
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| 17:40.15 | Tu13es | i don't use my n800 much though |
| 17:40.27 | Tu13es | really I just use it in class when I don't feel like using my macbook |
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| 18:44.26 | xan | frade, ping |
| 18:44.49 | frade | hi xan |
| 18:45.20 | xan | frade, not registered, so can't do /msg :p |
| 18:45.44 | xan | frade, go to irc.gnome.org? |
| 18:45.59 | frade | NickServ- You have already identified |
| 18:46.20 | frade | xan, ok |
| 18:46.36 | xan | no, I mean I am not registered |
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| 18:58.13 | milhouse | Anyone tried Sardine (on the device) lately? |
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| 18:58.37 | milhouse | I haven't managed a succesful Sardine upgrade in weeks |
| 18:58.58 | milhouse | Either I'm doing something wrong, or it's been abandoned... |
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| 19:56.11 | esworp | yo., quick question: |
| 19:56.48 | esworp | has anyone had any hands on with that bluetooth laser keyboard? |
| 19:57.49 | user__ | hi |
| 19:57.49 | _Monkey | what's up, user__ |
| 19:58.24 | user__ | not hands on but i heard it sucks |
| 19:58.28 | pupnikafk | yes someone here used it and said it works |
| 19:59.47 | esworp | yeah, it seems like a nifty doodad. but if it seems too good to be true... |
| 20:00.04 | milhouse | esworp: yeah, apparently it works but no tactile feedback and your fingers banging away on a hard surface for extended periods is somewhat unpleasant |
| 20:01.03 | milhouse | esworp: the upshot is yes it works, but read some reviews before going ahead - most are average at best |
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| 20:01.08 | esworp | i used to use a fabric keyboard with my palm; it was doable- it wasnt BT though |
| 20:01.23 | bobbywaz | just get a folding bluetooth keyboard |
| 20:02.09 | esworp | i probably will. just curious, yaknow? |
| 20:02.22 | bobbywaz | yeah |
| 20:02.34 | bobbywaz | it's overpriced, and from what I hear, it doesn't work good enough to pay that much for it |
| 20:03.23 | esworp | word. the cost is the main suck-factor. |
| 20:03.25 | bobbywaz | if it was 50 and sucked, or 120 and worked reall well, I'dsay yes, but from what I hear about it, it's not worth it |
| 20:03.56 | bobbywaz | I came home with my first n800 two days ago, and my room mate happened to have a mac bluetoooth keyboard she bought for her macmini, that doesn't have bluetooth |
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| 20:04.00 | bobbywaz | so that's what I'm typing on right now |
| 20:05.03 | milhouse | bobby - is that the new thin aluminium kb? |
| 20:05.07 | esworp | i was mulling over the full size vs. folding dilemma |
| 20:05.56 | bobbywaz | I say get a full size dell for 20 on ebay, or if you've got the 50-60 get a folding |
| 20:06.50 | esworp | thanks again for the intel, folks; i'm out |
| 20:06.52 | pupnikafk | my stowaway was $120 |
| 20:06.54 | pupnikafk | cu |
| 20:06.59 | milhouse | bobby - this one? http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?nplm=MB167LL/A |
| 20:07.32 | milhouse | (just interested to know what the feel is like, and the extent of key travel) |
| 20:08.03 | milhouse | pupnikafk: your name is a lie |
| 20:08.14 | pupnik | oopp |
| 20:08.15 | milhouse | :) |
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| 20:09.06 | bobbywaz | no |
| 20:09.08 | bobbywaz | not that one |
| 20:09.11 | bobbywaz | that's the new one I think |
| 20:09.11 | milhouse | k |
| 20:09.14 | bobbywaz | this is the older one |
| 20:09.23 | bobbywaz | clear plastic back, all white from |
| 20:09.24 | bobbywaz | front |
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| 21:01.38 | czr | hmm. any hints on how to get python-gtk into the sdk without too much resistance? (that and python-dbus-bindings too) |
| 21:01.43 | czr | (bora) |
| 21:02.41 | hillct | |R: what codecs can the RTComm sip client use? I'm having transcoding issues connecting to my CW box (like asterisk). What peer config are you using? |
| 21:03.58 | lmoura | czr, add the extras repository to sources.list |
| 21:04.55 | czr | lmoura, just bora/extras? no python-gtk there though |
| 21:05.09 | czr | or it's at some other url than the normal repos? |
| 21:05.58 | lmoura | deb http://repository.maemo.org/extras bora free non-free |
| 21:07.20 | czr | hmm. thanks |
| 21:07.32 | czr | there's no gtk for 2.3 though :-) |
| 21:07.45 | lmoura | czr, python2.5-gtk |
| 21:07.51 | czr | yes I know, but.. |
| 21:08.07 | czr | I'd rather not mess up with the SDK too much so that I don't get hidden deps when going to the device |
| 21:08.53 | lmoura | in the sdk, python2.5 keeps the original python intact |
| 21:09.05 | czr | ah. great. |
| 21:09.15 | czr | I'll test it out. trying to get dbus inspector to run |
| 21:09.49 | lmoura | czr, it'll require some work. dbus binding's are 0.71 |
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| 21:10.31 | lmoura | (dbus itself is 0.61 in bora) |
| 21:10.37 | czr | ah |
| 21:10.47 | czr | I see where you're going with that then. |
| 21:11.55 | czr | meh: dbus-inspector:34: GtkWarning: Mixing deprecated and non-deprecated GtkToolbar API is not allowed |
| 21:12.08 | czr | doesn't start very well. STOCK_INFO is missing too. |
| 21:15.07 | czr | maybe I'll just ignore the problem and it will go away :-) |
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| 22:22.45 | esworp | uktube? |
| 22:22.45 | _Monkey | i think uktube is what I'm missing mainly right now |
| 22:22.56 | esworp | ... thnks monkey. |
| 22:24.26 | esworp | i need to flash to the a more recent version of maemo.. |
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| 22:25.32 | esworp | i know i'll loose anything on the non-sd memory. My question is, will the backup program backup /everything/? aka gpe calendar dates, my contact list? |
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| 22:34.50 | zerojay | Depends on if they followed convention and put stuff in the right places. |
| 22:34.57 | zerojay | I'd back it up manually just in case. |
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| 22:37.00 | esworp | using rsync and push/pull? |
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| 23:02.42 | esworp | fyi: from what I see, the n800's backup tool backs up the user's .gpe directory. |
| 23:03.03 | esworp | ok.. time to tackle this here reflashing nonsense. |
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| 23:12.10 | glaubervinicius | i need to install a package that depends on pkg-config. how can i install it? |
| 23:13.18 | glaubervinicius | anyone can help me? |
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| 23:18.37 | glaubervinicius | the package i am talking is libebook-dev |
| 23:20.12 | pupnik | apt-get install pkg-config in scratchbox |
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| 23:23.46 | glaubervinicius | i need to install directly in N800 |
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| 23:25.17 | pupnik | why do you want a -dev package on the device? |
| 23:25.34 | glaubervinicius | pupnik, do you know in what repository pkg-config is available? |
| 23:25.42 | pupnik | repositories? |
| 23:25.43 | _Monkey | repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php |
| 23:27.05 | glaubervinicius | i am testing my application directly ion N800, without using scratchbox |
| 23:27.49 | pupnik | search link above |
| 23:28.26 | pupnik | -dev packages are for development, so is pkg-config |
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