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| 00:15.49 | imBen | Howdy |
| 00:15.50 | _Monkey | hola, imBen |
| 00:15.59 | imBen | Help? |
| 00:17.34 | imBen | Help the cubs beat the diamond backs |
| 00:25.44 | imBen | thi sis my problem... |
| 00:25.48 | imBen | http://www.imben.net/iw/badunmount.jpg |
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| 00:44.18 | rlifchitz | imBen: the right command is "umount" |
| 00:44.22 | rlifchitz | not "unmount" |
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| 01:56.19 | imBen | lol |
| 01:56.22 | imBen | thanks :) |
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| 04:07.26 | Tb0n3 | HOLY FUCKING SHIT |
| 04:07.30 | Tb0n3 | errrr |
| 04:07.31 | Tb0n3 | woops |
| 04:07.50 | Tb0n3 | new camera is full of awsome |
| 04:07.52 | Tb0n3 | sorry |
| 04:13.48 | Luria_ | anyone recommend a quick and dirty php voting script with multiple choices? |
| 04:14.04 | Luria_ | oss script |
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| 05:23.24 | unique311 | question, How do i set mplayer to open everything.... |
| 05:23.48 | unique311 | vids, stream links from the net. |
| 05:23.51 | unique311 | everything.. |
| 05:23.52 | _Monkey | everything is executable too |
| 05:24.18 | unique311 | really tired of file format not supported. |
| 05:24.56 | zerojay | You'd have to edit the MIME types. |
| 05:25.42 | unique311 | edit mime types for mplayer |
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| 06:59.15 | Dawnmist | osso-xterm: the 16 colour range has the same shade being used for both black and "bright black". Is there any way to change "bright black" to be a dark grey in between black and the normal grey shade? |
| 06:59.19 | Dawnmist | http://inz.fi/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/shot-2007-05-15-14-14-01.png |
| 06:59.59 | Dawnmist | Shows the 16 standard colours - need the colour below black to be 1/2 way between black and the grey at the end of the top line. |
| 07:01.28 | Dawnmist | (as is more normal for 'bright black') |
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| 07:13.35 | syosof1 | hi, 770 owner here, writing from it. Ihave a 2gb card that i had working at 1 time....now says corrupt. Instructions for formatting (i already have root)? |
| 07:19.49 | syosof1 | Hi? |
| 07:19.51 | _Monkey | How ya doin' syosof1? |
| 07:20.02 | syosof1 | Ok,u? |
| 07:20.23 | syosof1 | I just have 2gb i cant ust ;/ |
| 07:20.45 | syosof1 | Hi? |
| 07:20.47 | _Monkey | How ya doin' syosof1? |
| 07:21.00 | syosof1 | Figured bot ( |
| 07:21.23 | syosof1 | /timestamps |
| 07:21.43 | syosof1 | /Join #help |
| 07:33.34 | unique311 | zerojay: mimetypes. I |
| 07:33.47 | unique311 | a link maybe on how to edit this on maemo.. |
| 07:34.29 | syosof1 | So iws thinking about u the p |
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| 07:36.28 | syosof1 | Forgive my type im on the 770 and havent found tthe thum |
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| 07:36.56 | syosof1 | b keybboard |
| 07:37.47 | unique311 | don't you just have to press on the screen with your fingers.. |
| 07:37.55 | unique311 | and the thumb keyboard appears |
| 07:38.16 | unique311 | yeah that should work |
| 07:38.26 | unique311 | works over here on the n800 |
| 07:38.32 | c0ffee | you have to press with your finger in an input field iirc |
| 07:39.39 | unique311 | c0ffee: you know how i can go about changing modifying mime types, so mplayer starts instead of the default media player for an rtsp:// link |
| 07:39.45 | unique311 | anyone? |
| 07:40.15 | syosof1 | All i get is the little keyboard |
| 07:41.35 | unique311 | try using your thumb... |
| 07:41.41 | unique311 | fingerprint part of it.. |
| 07:41.44 | syosof1 | Although i did come across the big one when i put the 770 in my pocket :) |
| 07:41.50 | unique311 | the whole fingerprint.. |
| 07:42.27 | unique311 | thumbprint i guess when saying thumb |
| 07:43.03 | syosof1 | Yup that works |
| 07:43.26 | unique311 | cool |
| 07:43.32 | syosof1 | I feel kina stupit |
| 07:43.42 | unique311 | i need help.. |
| 07:43.49 | unique311 | can you help me with my problems. |
| 07:46.15 | syosof1 | So, any ideas on how to format this2gb card? |
| 07:46.15 | syosof1 | And is tvere a way to send frpm the thumb keyboard? |
| 07:47.08 | Dawnmist | On the N800, the square key in the middle of the dpad also toggles the keyboard into thumb-mode |
| 07:47.59 | Dawnmist | On toggling back, whatever you typed is passed through. |
| 07:48.00 | syosof1 | Ill try but i havent eally used this thing even thou ive owned it for months |
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| 07:50.21 | syosof1 | Ah ok, middle button sends |
| 07:50.33 | syosof1 | Much easier |
| 07:51.10 | t_s_o | hmm, have anyone else ran into a error with opera in 2006 where some of the stuff entered using the thumb-board gets doubled at the end of the text? |
| 07:51.35 | zuh | Yes, I've seen that |
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| 07:52.16 | t_s_o | i wonder if thats still around in 2007he |
| 07:52.32 | t_s_o | as its, to put it mildly, annoying... |
| 07:52.42 | syosof1 | Apparenyly the rocker closs or cashes gaim |
| 07:52.56 | t_s_o | try pidgin |
| 07:53.48 | syosof1 | Nice, pidgin has a 770 port? |
| 07:54.24 | t_s_o | yep, may take some repo wrangling but works fine imo |
| 07:54.47 | t_s_o | sadly, its not the latest and greatest, so you may get a message to update ever so often |
| 07:56.08 | syosof1 | Hrm... Trying to keep it simple atm. Formatting is first on the agenda. |
| 07:58.36 | syosof1 | 2gb orks on 2006, right? |
| 07:58.59 | t_s_o | no clue |
| 07:59.04 | syosof1 | I swear i had it working before... |
| 07:59.16 | t_s_o | isnt there a format option in the file browser? |
| 07:59.23 | syosof1 | How do i find os version? |
| 07:59.27 | t_s_o | sadly my 770 has a wsod so i cant check |
| 07:59.42 | t_s_o | think its in the settings area somewhere. it should say in the manual |
| 08:00.04 | syosof1 | Rtfm, eh? |
| 08:00.55 | t_s_o | something like that :) |
| 08:02.14 | syosof1 | File mgr just says "no memory card inserted" butt when i put it in it throws a not formatted or corrupt msg |
| 08:02.41 | syosof1 | Ghetto ;} |
| 08:03.16 | t_s_o | tools -> control panel -> device -> about product... |
| 08:05.13 | syosof1 | Thanks for the hand holding ;) it is os 2006... |
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| 08:08.25 | t_s_o | the 770 file manager holds a format option under "memory card" in its menu... |
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| 08:11.40 | syosof1 | Wouldnt know memory card is grayed out as file manager doesnt think on is iserted |
| 08:12.07 | t_s_o | hmm... |
| 08:13.33 | syosof1 | Yae kinda sucks... Still getthat message when i insert and close the cover |
| 08:15.36 | t_s_o | well i have no clue. maybe something on internettablettalk? |
| 08:16.14 | syosof1 | As in the chan? |
| 08:16.44 | t_s_o | forum |
| 08:16.53 | t_s_o | http://www.internettablettalk.com/ |
| 08:17.10 | syosof1 | Gotcha |
| 08:20.04 | syosof1 | Grrr cant click-launch that url. Giam is saying somethig about manual browser selection |
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| 08:31.48 | syosof1 | Tryying to follow http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ExtendedRootFilesystem |
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| 08:42.23 | unique311 | iphone.facebook.com looks really good on microb... |
| 08:42.32 | unique311 | works * |
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| 08:57.04 | syosof1 | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_Partition_your_MMC_card anyone familar with that? I did it all and i can see one ~480mb "memory card" but not the second partiti as the last 770 related command fails |
| 08:57.50 | syosof1 | mount /dev/mmcblk0p2 /media/mmc2 |
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| 09:07.49 | kpel | hi all |
| 09:13.00 | disq | yeah iphone.facebook is good tho i always prefer the normal facebook ui |
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| 09:27.42 | t_s_o | interesting how soon iphone-specific pages shows up |
| 09:27.55 | t_s_o | do apple really have that much "power"? |
| 09:29.14 | disq | it's just hype |
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| 09:34.46 | t_s_o | disq: hype or not, they still get more "presence" then most other corps in the field... |
| 09:35.03 | czr | they have disproportionate amount of community good-will |
| 09:35.26 | czr | having been seen as the "renegades" so many years (and they did make quite nice hardware), it's not too suprising. |
| 09:35.34 | czr | at least that's how I see it. |
| 09:35.43 | t_s_o | heh, renegades... |
| 09:35.46 | czr | os x isn't too bad either. esp for developers, etc. |
| 09:35.53 | czr | t_s_o, compared to ms, obviously :-) |
| 09:36.34 | disq | i'll get a macbook myself soon, but never liked i* |
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| 09:37.10 | czr | I haven't used the recent hw, but used to install linux into hw quite regularly some years back |
| 09:37.19 | czr | still have couple of cubes humming away |
| 09:38.25 | disq | i didn't use linux on desktop since, well. 1999 or so |
| 09:38.32 | disq | or haven't used, rather |
| 09:38.57 | czr | sure. people have different needs and tastes, so.. |
| 09:39.45 | disq | when i used i loved gnome but rarely used it. was more comfortable with cli |
| 09:40.30 | t_s_o | the thing i find most interesting is this, apple comes out with a closed device, and everyone and their pet seems to want to hack it, sony comes with one, and people go shoping for a less restricted device... |
| 09:41.24 | disq | yeah |
| 09:41.53 | czr | the apple device just looks better. |
| 09:41.56 | disq | not to forget sony has fanboys too, maybe just not as IT-oriented as apple |
| 09:42.03 | czr | (and apple has an army of fanboys) |
| 09:42.11 | Dawnmist | Does anyone know if there is a terminal for the N800 that defines 'bright black' as dark-grey rather than black? |
| 09:42.12 | czr | disq, or maybe they're all in japan? |
| 09:43.03 | pupnik_ | on desktop linux this is configurable somewhere |
| 09:43.30 | disq | still being the renegades in the industry (is it still true? everybody has a macbook in the US nowadays) probably help on the fanboyism |
| 09:44.29 | disq | Dawnmist: no idea but wouldn't count on it. inz would know how to get that effect on xterm tho |
| 09:45.08 | czr | disq, maybe it's the glowing log on the laptops :-) |
| 09:45.12 | czr | logo even |
| 09:45.33 | czr | I don't know. they must be doing something right. |
| 09:45.45 | czr | or pushing huge amount of cash into whatever they're doing. |
| 09:45.52 | czr | but that only helps so far. |
| 09:52.14 | t_s_o | everyone loves being nonconformist, as long as they can be part of the group ;) |
| 09:52.40 | t_s_o | so maybe its a cult, the cult of the fruit |
| 09:53.05 | t_s_o | still, i think its the pod that have gotten them the mindshare they are currently floating on |
| 09:53.07 | pupnik_ | Dawnmist: on debian linux PC you control with /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt |
| 09:57.35 | kpel | i think they are just throwing a lot of money on everything they are doing until it snowballs and yields a profit. |
| 09:59.41 | t_s_o | i just wonder what kind of result the european launch of the iphone will have... |
| 09:59.57 | czr | more muted I'd expect |
| 10:01.04 | t_s_o | damn, why did i forget about the word "fashion". |
| 10:01.32 | czr | it's unfashionable? |
| 10:01.48 | t_s_o | no, that the apple logo have become a fashion |
| 10:02.12 | t_s_o | that if they where to print it onto t-shits they could probably sell it 10x the normal price... |
| 10:05.52 | czr | hmm. I've finally succeeded at one goals in life. |
| 10:06.03 | czr | I now dominate the first results page of google with my name :-) |
| 10:07.29 | pupnik_ | xterm? |
| 10:07.29 | _Monkey | xterm is the enhanced version of osso-xterm from maemo-hackers. It adds font and color selection support, URL opening through context menu, and a sidebar with additional keys such as Ctrl+letters. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/osso-xterm-advanced or http://dastych.sh.cvut.cz/~jtra/download/maemo/xterm/debs/ for an alternate onscreen keyboard |
| 10:08.08 | Dawnmist | That's what I'm using. |
| 10:08.21 | Dawnmist | The problem is the definition of the 'bright black' colour |
| 10:08.32 | Dawnmist | http://inz.fi/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/shot-2007-05-15-14-14-01.png |
| 10:08.51 | Dawnmist | shows what the colour is - the one in the system colours under the black |
| 10:08.53 | pupnik_ | strange, that maemo.org shows 0.13.mh19 and i have 0.13.mh24 on 770 |
| 10:09.01 | pupnik_ | yesh i saw that |
| 10:09.04 | Dawnmist | http://frexx.de/xterm-256-notes/img/256colors2.png |
| 10:09.13 | Dawnmist | shows what that colour *should* be |
| 10:09.36 | pupnik_ | did you file bugreport? |
| 10:09.52 | Dawnmist | Can't. It won't accept/file the report |
| 10:10.03 | Dawnmist | I can preview it - but not send it. |
| 10:10.31 | zerojay | Bugzilla doesn't have a preview. |
| 10:10.31 | czr | enable cookies? |
| 10:10.31 | Dawnmist | And without it, lots of monsters + the black market are invisible in angband |
| 10:10.37 | czr | and that too :-) |
| 10:10.58 | Dawnmist | zerojay: but inz uses trak, and it does have a preview |
| 10:11.16 | zerojay | Oh. Trak sucks. |
| 10:13.49 | disq | why does it suck? it's just slow, anything else? |
| 10:14.04 | Dawnmist | It won't let me enter a bug-report :P |
| 10:14.10 | zerojay | I just hate the whole layout of it. |
| 10:14.18 | zerojay | More complex than it needs to be. |
| 10:15.57 | disq | it's useful for developers. if no anonymous tickets are allowed that's a configuration issue :) |
| 10:16.05 | disq | i think you can allow it |
| 10:16.10 | disq | never administered trac tho |
| 10:16.42 | Dawnmist | *lol* - with no ability to create a login, and no anonymous tickets, there's no way to file a bug report. |
| 10:16.52 | Dawnmist | I guess it keeps things quiet :P |
| 10:17.32 | czr | sounds like a dream system to me :-) |
| 10:19.39 | czr | question: does it make sense to use the GLib bindings for D-Bus instead of libosso now that they work(?) in new releases? |
| 10:19.46 | pupnik_ | account problem on maemo.org Dawnmist ? |
| 10:19.57 | czr | pupnik_, you can't login either? |
| 10:20.08 | pupnik_ | or somewhere else |
| 10:20.09 | czr | I registered yesterday, could access garage, but not maemo.org |
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| 10:23.30 | kpel | had the same problem |
| 10:23.59 | czr | ok. must be something wrong with the site config then |
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| 10:28.01 | kpel | actually i cannot access anything. maemo or garage. if i try to reactivate my account by folloing the link to the email i received i get the message "account already active" so something else is wrong |
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| 10:29.21 | czr | could be related |
| 10:29.43 | czr | you probably had an account before yesterday, so we'd see the problem differently I guess. |
| 10:30.22 | czr | any takers for the d-bus/glib-question? |
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| 10:31.08 | TPC | hello |
| 10:31.18 | TPC | I left my N800 on by mistake, and the batteries drained |
| 10:31.28 | TPC | after loading it it works fine again, with one exception |
| 10:31.31 | TPC | wifi refuses to work |
| 10:31.44 | TPC | it worked fine before this happened, but now it won't find my network when scanning |
| 10:31.55 | czr | does it see other any networks? |
| 10:31.58 | TPC | no |
| 10:32.03 | czr | did it see before? |
| 10:32.06 | TPC | and usually it picks up several of my neighbors |
| 10:32.09 | czr | ok |
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| 10:32.33 | czr | maybe you should report the bug? or scan bugzilla for similar ones? |
| 10:32.47 | TPC | yeah, thats probably a good idea |
| 10:32.50 | czr | you could always reflash if all else fails (like removing the battery and attaching it back, etc) |
| 10:33.01 | czr | that _should_ fix it. it's still a bug though. |
| 10:33.13 | czr | if that doesn't fix it, then something is borken at hw-level. |
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| 10:40.16 | t_s_o | http://www.banksy.co.uk/drawing/images/fallofman.gif |
| 10:40.27 | kpel | do you know how to make xterm display colors? after modifying .bashrc i get the error '-sh: /root/.bashrc: dircolors: not found' when i login |
| 10:41.59 | kpel | I have intentionaly drained the battery of my N800 a couple of times but didn't see the problem you described. try reflashing it. |
| 10:42.44 | czr | t_s_o, heh |
| 10:43.22 | TPC | czr, removing the battery and attatching it again fixed it |
| 10:43.31 | TPC | altought I fail to see what that does that a power cycle doesn't |
| 10:43.34 | TPC | thanks for the tip |
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| 10:46.17 | czr | the battery forms a full electronic circuit within the system. removing it cuts that circuit. so you might assume that it's more of an reset than just power on/power off |
| 10:46.48 | czr | I could also say it's a "nokia thing". can't even remember the times when I needed to reset a phone by removing a battery and putting it back into place :-) |
| 10:47.07 | czr | but then again I guess most portable devices with batteries are like that nowadays. |
| 10:47.18 | zerojay | czr: I do. |
| 10:47.51 | czr | zerojay, unless we're getting married real soon now, what does 'I do' relate to? :-) |
| 10:48.02 | zerojay | Removing the battery. |
| 10:48.27 | zerojay | nm |
| 10:48.31 | czr | ok |
| 10:48.37 | czr | you mean counting the times? |
| 10:48.52 | zerojay | yep |
| 10:54.39 | kpel | is there a bash package for N800? |
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| 11:10.04 | Argiris | A linux distro for COMPAQ ipaq h3900??? |
| 11:10.28 | zerojay | no? |
| 11:11.10 | Argiris | Sorry,I mean do you know A linux distro for COMPAQ ipaq h3900??? |
| 11:12.07 | kpel | wrong room i guess |
| 11:12.14 | kpel | try google |
| 11:13.35 | czr | hmm. noticed that the dbus package on the device is at 0.61-osso28. I assume then that this is before the 1.0 D-Bus launch last year? |
| 11:14.01 | zerojay | I believe we'll get dbus 1.0 in Chinook. |
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| 11:14.11 | czr | ok |
| 11:14.40 | czr | zerojay, you know whether using libosso for d-bus is more sane than using glib for d-bus? (for 0.61) |
| 11:14.55 | zerojay | Sorry, can't say i do. |
| 11:15.00 | disq | i'd go with libosso when i can. but it doesn't support certain things |
| 11:15.00 | czr | i.e., what would be the recommended way. |
| 11:15.15 | czr | disq, why not glib? |
| 11:15.27 | disq | because the maemo dbus is ancient |
| 11:15.29 | czr | (just curious mind you, have no opinion on this) |
| 11:16.02 | czr | ah, so the glib-bindings for 3.2 are old, did I understand correctly? |
| 11:16.23 | czr | pupnik, xu4? |
| 11:16.36 | disq | i think the glib bindings are newer than the dbus itself. not sure |
| 11:16.54 | disq | they work to some extent, but most of the docs you find on the net don't really apply |
| 11:17.02 | czr | hmm. the package versions are the same (0.61-osso28), but that's not saying much. |
| 11:17.10 | czr | disq, ok. fun fun fun then. |
| 11:17.20 | disq | yeah. :/ |
| 11:17.56 | czr | so either way one is screwed when chinook comes out |
| 11:18.01 | czr | which is always nice :-) |
| 11:18.28 | disq | i'm guessing libosso would be less problematic |
| 11:19.05 | czr | they're bound to break it, I'm pretty sure :-) |
| 11:19.43 | czr | I have a pile of stuff that supposedly should work on 3.2 (code and documentation), but aren't feeling overly optimistic about it |
| 11:20.13 | czr | hence the questions. anticipate running into issues and I can still redo a lot of the stuff. the target is 3.2 though, and I don't have anything to test chinook stuff with anyway |
| 11:23.31 | czr | suihkulokki, heh. actually I had a long break not being involved in this stuff. |
| 11:23.43 | czr | trying to get up to speed. very very quickly. |
| 11:24.44 | czr | suihkulokki, 1.0 was the last version I did anything for |
| 11:24.53 | czr | that leaves many many versions in between |
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| 11:40.41 | czr | hmm. osso_application_set_top_cb and unset_top_cb are marked for deprecation, and one should use "osso_rpc"-functions instead. which functions, and if this is being replaced by signals coming over the d-bus, then which signals specifically and how can signals be subscribed to in libosso? |
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| 11:43.16 | disq | oh btw if you come across sample python code to broadcast a dbus message could you pass it along :) |
| 11:43.35 | czr | I wish I'd be doing something with python, alas no |
| 11:43.37 | czr | maybe later |
| 11:47.27 | czr | libosso doxygen also is bit weird. osso_application_name_get and osso_application_version_get are not documented (other than prototypes) and are located under "Autosaving". useful.. |
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| 11:55.18 | alterego | You can just use the dbus calls. |
| 11:56.25 | czr | alterego, yup. what's the convention then? reuse the connection that libosso has already opened, or open a new one, separate from libosso? |
| 11:56.31 | czr | (assuming one uses libosso for other stuff) |
| 11:56.47 | alterego | You can only have one connection I believe. |
| 11:57.02 | czr | uhm. so how not to trip libosso then? |
| 11:57.08 | alterego | Which does create a problem, I don't think you can get a handle on the connection that osso creates .. |
| 11:57.20 | czr | indeed |
| 11:57.37 | alterego | Though, interestingly enough. OSSO is kind of pointless in my mind. |
| 11:57.41 | czr | or even if I could, I'd have to undo all kinds of stuff that libosso did |
| 11:57.50 | alterego | It's not hard to do exactly what libosso does at the start of your app. |
| 11:58.08 | czr | it does have convenience stuff that is.. well, convenient. |
| 11:58.08 | alterego | It doesn't do much ^_^ |
| 11:58.15 | alterego | Sure, |
| 11:58.41 | alterego | It would be more convenient if you could get the dbus connection ;) |
| 11:58.58 | alterego | Actually .. |
| 11:59.02 | czr | hmm. why can't I get more than one? |
| 11:59.45 | alterego | I thought that was how D-Bus works. |
| 12:00.15 | czr | hmm. that'd be rather limiting from their part |
| 12:00.25 | czr | at least with libdbus. not sure about the glib-wrappers |
| 12:00.45 | alterego | Why would you need more than one connection? |
| 12:00.58 | czr | to use d-bus for signals and libosso for convenience. |
| 12:01.10 | czr | libosso opens system and session buses on init. |
| 12:01.40 | czr | and yes, I remember that you said I should ditch libosso altogether. which would solve this problem. |
| 12:01.42 | czr | but still. |
| 12:01.53 | alterego | Okay, maybe you can open multiple connections. |
| 12:02.02 | alterego | In which case, you can use dbus outside of osso. |
| 12:02.10 | czr | yes. |
| 12:02.21 | czr | that was the intent. |
| 12:02.30 | czr | so that signal stuff could be done there directly. |
| 12:02.36 | czr | but I'll need to dig deeper. |
| 12:02.42 | alterego | Right |
| 12:04.34 | alterego | Aha, if you've already opened a connection to a specific address, then the connection object returned by dbus_connection_open is the same. |
| 12:04.35 | czr | anyone have ideas whether submitting patches against libosso (in order to correct doxygen documentation) makes sense (targetting 3.2), since 4.0 is so near? |
| 12:04.51 | czr | alterego, makes sense. |
| 12:05.03 | alterego | That's probably why I was getting confused ^_^ |
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| 12:05.40 | alterego | Though, you can open a "private" connection. Which will be a different handle. |
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| 12:05.57 | czr | good to know |
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| 12:06.13 | czr | hence the stupid questions. |
| 12:06.22 | alterego | Yeah, it's an interesting beast. |
| 12:06.51 | alterego | The d-bus site is pretty informative. |
| 12:06.56 | czr | there's no docs on the glib/dbus-wrapper for 3.2 |
| 12:07.04 | czr | alterego, yeah, been reading it. |
| 12:07.04 | alterego | With API documentation and some good descriptive overviews. |
| 12:07.19 | alterego | The glib dbus API is on the dbus website. |
| 12:07.28 | alterego | That's not a maemo thing. |
| 12:07.30 | czr | alterego, for older releases as well? |
| 12:07.33 | alterego | It's a dbus thing. |
| 12:07.36 | czr | yeah, but maemo ships 0.61 |
| 12:07.41 | alterego | Oh, right. |
| 12:07.47 | alterego | Not sure about that. |
| 12:09.43 | czr | hmm. the latest version of binding is 0.74 |
| 12:10.04 | czr | which seems slightly weird. I know that d-bus uses their own version numbering for libdbus and wrappers have their own |
| 12:10.17 | czr | but why do the packages have all the same versions in maemo and the device? |
| 12:10.34 | alterego | Don't know :) |
| 12:10.35 | czr | i.e., what is the true version number of dbus and dbusglib on the device and maemo |
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| 12:11.06 | alterego | Is it really that important? |
| 12:11.22 | czr | it is when you're trying to understand what will work and what will not |
| 12:11.28 | pupnik | one interesting approach might be hacking sdl's mod play ability or mikmod to implement a subset of midi |
| 12:11.35 | pupnik | oop wrong chan |
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| 12:24.47 | ekim|irc_ | What do you get with 2007 hacker edition that you don't get with the latest 770 fw ? |
| 12:26.34 | flip^ | hmm, is there a python 2.4 still out there for os2007? I keep finding things that need it, despite me having 2.5 installed |
| 12:32.16 | alterego | ekim|irc_, compatibility with N800 software |
| 12:32.39 | alterego | flip^, you might be able to force the install |
| 12:33.15 | flip^ | but stuff looks in the 2.4 paths for python sometimes :( |
| 12:33.41 | alterego | Sounds like rubbish coding. |
| 12:33.50 | alterego | Doesn't Python know it's own site directories? |
| 12:33.55 | alterego | site and library locations .. |
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| 12:37.04 | ekim|irc_ | export PYTHONPATH='/usr/local/bin/python2.5/site-packages' |
| 12:37.13 | ekim|irc_ | replace te 5 with a 4 |
| 12:37.18 | flip^ | alterego: its advertised on the maemo python pages that software needs 'maintenance' to work with 2.5, and suggests that you can't have both 2.4 and 2.5 on at the same time |
| 12:37.42 | ekim|irc_ | What stuff can I uninstall to get some more space ? |
| 12:37.43 | alterego | Right |
| 12:37.48 | alterego | Still badly designed. |
| 12:37.54 | alterego | Ruby wouldn't suffer that problem :P |
| 12:37.55 | ekim|irc_ | I only have a 1 gb card |
| 12:37.55 | flip^ | oh, yes, very much so |
| 12:38.01 | ekim|irc_ | howso ? |
| 12:38.10 | ekim|irc_ | I don't remember how ruby handles paths |
| 12:38.19 | ekim|irc_ | asa I remeber ... you can't add paths to ruby |
| 12:38.27 | alterego | Of course you can |
| 12:38.31 | ekim|irc_ | RUBYPATH ? |
| 12:38.32 | alterego | $: << '/some/path' |
| 12:38.40 | alterego | Or through an environment variable. |
| 12:38.43 | ekim|irc_ | right |
| 12:38.47 | ekim|irc_ | Its been a while |
| 12:38.53 | ekim|irc_ | I switched to python and never looked back |
| 12:39.03 | ekim|irc_ | Hmm |
| 12:39.07 | alterego | The point is, Ruby _knows_ where it's site and library directories are. It doesn't get confused with different versions. |
| 12:39.25 | ekim|irc_ | there is there annoying package called kernel... |
| 12:39.26 | flip^ | I'm not sure python gets too confused on any other system than maemo |
| 12:39.31 | ekim|irc_ | hmm |
| 12:39.35 | ekim|irc_ | if I remove it I can get lots mroe space |
| 12:39.39 | ekim|irc_ | Nope |
| 12:39.43 | ekim|irc_ | I have 2 versions on my system |
| 12:39.51 | alterego | Well those python packagers aren't doing a very good job ;) |
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| 12:40.19 | czr | python works quite nicely on most platforms, even with multiple versions |
| 12:40.21 | flip^ | annoying are things that require 2.4 as a dependancy. i cba to hack them onto the device |
| 12:40.50 | czr | alterego, just like ruby, python also _knows_ where the dirs are |
| 12:40.56 | czr | so something is broken in the packaging/build process |
| 12:41.04 | alterego | This is why I make Ruby1.8 _provide_ "ruby" so any package some one makes just has to rely on the 'ruby' dependency. |
| 12:41.23 | ekim|irc_ | can setuptools work in remverse |
| 12:41.25 | czr | that's how python packages work normally as well. |
| 12:41.25 | ekim|irc_ | to remove packages |
| 12:41.54 | alterego | Obviously there is a slight possibility that someone could write code that breaks in Ruby1.9/2.0 when it's released and I release the packages. But that's not very likely at all :) |
| 12:42.18 | alterego | czr, on the device or in general? |
| 12:42.31 | czr | alterego, in general. never tried it on the devie. |
| 12:42.33 | czr | device even. |
| 12:43.00 | alterego | Right, |
| 12:43.24 | alterego | Well, it would seem the python maemo team haven't provided python. So dependency fields are pointing at python2.4 or python2.5 |
| 12:43.32 | alterego | Which is unfortunate. |
| 12:43.57 | alterego | Not sure why that would break lib/site paths if python _knows_ where they are .. |
| 12:44.30 | czr | well, it _knows_ based on built time configuration. I guess in same way that ruby _knows_. |
| 12:44.45 | alterego | Yes, that's it. |
| 12:44.45 | czr | obviously it cannot guess just randomly. I doubt ruby does that either. |
| 12:44.55 | alterego | Sure |
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| 12:53.46 | czr | meh. any ideas why xmllint would vaild to load dtd off the net inside SDK? |
| 12:53.51 | czr | wget gets the same dtd quite nicely. |
| 12:54.15 | czr | ahh. the site gies 301 Moved Permanently |
| 12:54.19 | czr | gives even. |
| 12:55.05 | czr | neh. still doesn't work. |
| 13:00.54 | Atarii | do u gues use scratchbox through vmware/virtual pc or hdd istall of linux |
| 13:01.04 | Atarii | guys* |
| 13:01.12 | Atarii | install* |
| 13:01.14 | Atarii | lol damn |
| 13:01.16 | czr | depends on whether people use linux as main system or not. I use linux |
| 13:01.30 | czr | although I have a separate linux running in vmware for this project |
| 13:02.20 | Atarii | ok thanks, i just wanted a general consensus, and i hav linux on a laptop but just wondered if people use it in vmware |
| 13:02.35 | czr | it's a matter of taste |
| 13:02.50 | czr | I just want the extra isolation in case scratchbox decides to cause problems |
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| 13:03.15 | Atarii | wat distro do you use? |
| 13:03.53 | czr | for maemo? feisty/ubuntu right now. |
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| 13:18.03 | DRoBeR | Hello |
| 13:18.13 | czr | all this time I thought the xml/xmllint was borken. turns out the resolv.conf in scratchbox is permanently at 127.0.0.1 and since by af wasn't running, nothing worked that needed dns. |
| 13:20.26 | DRoBeR | Who can help me with this? I am trying to compile a tool under scratchbox for porting it to N800. It is a language translator called "apertium". The main error is that it can't find gcc or alternative compiler. I'm trying to make an "apt-get install gcc" but: |
| 13:20.28 | DRoBeR | [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~/apertium/lttoolbox-unicode] > apt-get install gcc |
| 13:20.28 | DRoBeR | /scratchbox/tools/bin/misc_runner: SBOX_CPUTRANSPARENCY_METHOD not set |
| 13:21.00 | zuh | Your target is seriously broken :) |
| 13:21.00 | czr | seems like your sbox is misconfigured. it already includes gcc. |
| 13:21.13 | DRoBeR | :/ |
| 13:21.35 | DRoBeR | I've done it using the HOWTO of the maemo website. :( |
| 13:22.20 | DRoBeR | Thank you very much. |
| 13:26.30 | pupnik | first be sure you have gcc |
| 13:26.36 | pupnik | gcc -v tells you version info |
| 13:26.59 | pupnik | some packages insist on specific gcc versions, so that might be the problem |
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| 13:31.08 | DRoBeR | [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > ln -s /scratchbox/compilers/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc |
| 13:31.15 | DRoBeR | I think this could help me :) |
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| 13:33.46 | pupnik | my 'which gcc' points to /scratchbox/compiles/bin/gcc |
| 13:34.10 | DRoBeR | yes. :/ |
| 13:34.15 | pupnik | again maybe your package is doing something strange |
| 13:34.33 | pupnik | [sbox-SB_Arm2: ~] > ls -l /usr/bin/gcc |
| 13:34.34 | pupnik | lrwxrwxrwx 1 minra minra 7 Sep 19 11:47 /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-3.4 |
| 13:38.23 | DRoBeR | Should I reinstall scratchbox? :) |
| 13:38.45 | pupnik | does the problem occur compiling other packages>? |
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| 13:41.18 | Blacksito | hi |
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| 14:08.32 | czr | I'd paste some code here, but you'll all want to kill yourself if I'd do that (it is, that bad..) |
| 14:08.53 | czr | no wonder gcc throws up a warning or two |
| 14:08.53 | zoran | no more than 5 mb |
| 14:10.21 | alterego | :D |
| 14:13.48 | czr | I need an exit plan. |
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| 14:17.05 | zoran | czr, what is the codu you concider anthilopas would like more what we ? |
| 14:17.28 | zoran | uh, what a typos |
| 14:17.43 | czr | zoran, neh. my exit plan involves diching all code. all computers. everything! (yes, even my pants). |
| 14:18.02 | zoran | the place you go will do that anyway :) |
| 14:18.16 | czr | I fear this place will do that to me soon too. |
| 14:18.49 | czr | while running naked too. |
| 14:19.04 | zerojay | Can you ask it for the riskiest too? |
| 14:19.14 | czr | zerojay, sure |
| 14:19.21 | czr | you want to exit too? |
| 14:19.28 | zoran | don't forget that the globe rotates |
| 14:20.04 | czr | zoran, I am not planning to run near at c. |
| 14:20.15 | czr | although it could be interesting too. |
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| 14:24.21 | Blacksitox | re |
| 14:24.40 | pupnik | fuckyou Blacksitox |
| 14:24.58 | pupnik | !- Blacksitox [n=fuckyou@unaffiliated/blacksito] has joined #maemo |
| 14:25.04 | pupnik | just trying to make you feel at home :) |
| 14:25.26 | Blacksitox | fuck xD |
| 14:25.33 | Blacksitox | wait :P |
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| 14:26.43 | pupnik | that's nicer :) |
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| 14:26.59 | zoran | folks, how I got python 2.4 after reflashing 3.2006.49? should be 2.5 |
| 14:27.23 | zerojay | Python isn't included in the flash image. |
| 14:27.29 | zoran | yeah |
| 14:27.31 | Atarii | download via application repositories |
| 14:27.34 | zoran | I added it myself |
| 14:27.35 | zerojay | You most likely installed a program that uses python. |
| 14:27.40 | zoran | nope |
| 14:27.44 | zoran | my own hands |
| 14:27.54 | zoran | from reps |
| 14:28.10 | Blacksitox | pupnik, :) |
| 14:29.03 | zoran | k, gregale has python 2.4 ! |
| 14:29.59 | czr | "meh, it's just a warning! how serious could it be! me be the leet uberhaxor! compiler just complain for no reason!" |
| 14:30.02 | czr | sorry. |
| 14:30.28 | zoran | what it says? |
| 14:31.30 | czr | it says the codebase I'm working on sucks and is buggy as hell |
| 14:31.52 | zoran | nice langage for gnu animal |
| 14:31.59 | zoran | *language |
| 14:32.02 | czr | "Warning: You know that you could be enjoying some fresh air and beer right now.. You know that. right?" |
| 14:32.08 | pupnik | i see a 2.5 |
| 14:32.12 | pupnik | repositories? |
| 14:32.13 | _Monkey | repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php |
| 14:32.18 | zoran | yes |
| 14:32.21 | zoran | it is 770 |
| 14:32.38 | zoran | but scirocco and gregale have 2.4 |
| 14:32.43 | zoran | no big deal, too |
| 14:32.51 | zoran | I just put getmail on it |
| 14:32.57 | czr | "gconf-directory-watch.c:25: warning: comparison between pointer and integer" |
| 14:33.03 | czr | I wonder what that means.. hmmm. |
| 14:33.12 | zoran | he-he |
| 14:33.25 | czr | seriously, this is the most serious poop I've seen in a while. |
| 14:33.48 | zoran | ritchie and kernigan book flows around on the net |
| 14:34.48 | czr | I was being ironic! |
| 14:34.54 | zoran | :) |
| 14:35.12 | zoran | I take all literaly |
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| 14:45.06 | zoran | k, python asks for module named getpass |
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| 14:45.19 | czr | leelo multipass |
| 14:45.30 | czr | or was it leeloo. |
| 14:50.00 | zoran | solution came by itself! battery is out |
| 14:50.01 | imBen | If I'm running my OS 2007 off the memory card would it be dumb to install virtual memory on the second partition? |
| 14:50.32 | zoran | another device would be better |
| 14:50.47 | zoran | for hdd surely |
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| 14:53.48 | zoran | fine, found module getpass on my local box |
| 14:59.47 | czr | heh. not only is the code pooped. it leaks memory too. |
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| 15:09.53 | zoran | how people on this channel handle security on connections out of home nets? |
| 15:10.30 | pupnik | can you be more specific? |
| 15:10.52 | zoran | my 770 has installed iptables |
| 15:11.05 | zoran | but no stateful module |
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| 15:11.52 | zoran | my opinion is that firewall blocks connection for no-net option on 770 |
| 15:12.29 | zoran | I played with it some months ago and it works in stateless mode |
| 15:12.43 | czr | hmm. if I create a new GMainLoop, I should release it with g_main_loop_unref() after use, right? |
| 15:12.54 | pupnik | if you find a way to hack itos, let us know |
| 15:13.19 | zoran | pupnik, me or czr? |
| 15:13.30 | czr | you zoran |
| 15:13.41 | zoran | I see a clear way to do that |
| 15:13.54 | zoran | just I have no spare box to load linux |
| 15:14.43 | zoran | does someone compiled _whole_ kernel for os versions in the past? |
| 15:14.58 | pupnik | yes |
| 15:15.10 | zoran | like: "I need this and that and all other goes to modules" |
| 15:15.42 | zoran | those modules sit on someone's hdd; one of them is nat and stateful one |
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| 15:25.42 | czr | any gconf-hackers around? |
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| 16:01.47 | zoran | I have some external 3-head usb cable from hdd enclosure; is it suitable for usb-host-mode usage? |
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| 16:08.49 | zuh | czr: what about it? |
| 16:09.05 | czr | zuh, the prototype for value-changed signal callback |
| 16:09.27 | czr | although I noticed that most code uses notify_add instead, and the prototype for that cb is clear (and documented), but can't find the one for the gobject-signal |
| 16:09.51 | czr | from GConfClient that is. |
| 16:09.59 | czr | when waiting for GConf-entries to change. |
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| 16:13.07 | zuh | You should really use notify_add, the value_changed from GConfClient tells you that *a* value changed in the database, even those you don't give a rat's ass about |
| 16:13.45 | zuh | And the only way to detect which is apparently strcmp... |
| 16:14.45 | czr | sure, but I'm following two keys, and both use same allback (I register the callback at the directory just above the keys), so it needs strcmp:s anyway |
| 16:15.12 | czr | and I've changed the code to use notify_add now since I didn't find the prototype in any documentation, but just was wondering what it should be |
| 16:15.35 | czr | allback=callback. keyboard must be getting all kinds of cruft inside it lately. |
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| 16:18.11 | zuh | But if you strcmp every time the camera is twisted or something else pings stuff in gconf, wouldn't that be a waste of time and potentially a big one? |
| 16:18.39 | czr | you get notified only for the directories you follow in gconf |
| 16:18.55 | czr | even with the value-changed mechanism |
| 16:19.18 | czr | also, when the camera twists, that surely won't cause a gconf event? |
| 16:19.27 | czr | d-bus signal yes, but gconf? |
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| 16:23.08 | zuh | IIRC it's updated there too (it could be the camera pop-out but you get my point) |
| 16:23.35 | zuh | and right, the GConfClient was inherently only watching specific dirs, forgot that. |
| 16:23.56 | czr | hmm. must be specific to the camera then? seems weird, but I guess there's some reason to store that. |
| 16:25.09 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 16:26.17 | zuh | There's lots of things that get updated to gconf, like the mmc cover state etc. One could of course check with the gconf-editor what there is but I'm lazy enough to not boot and find out ;) |
| 16:26.51 | czr | zuh, np. reading gconftool dump as we speak. I wasn't aware that gconf was used for other than "ui-settings" or settings in general. |
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| 16:27.35 | czr | heh. nice to see that the device contains config for /desktop/gnome/* as well (referencing epiphany, gnome-help, and friends).. |
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| 16:32.53 | czr | zuh, yup. found the stuff under /system/osso/af/ |
| 16:38.46 | Jaffa | konttori: ping |
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| 17:08.32 | Atarii | mudbuilder is fun |
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| 18:20.10 | Jaffa | Atarii: glad you like it, if you've got any suggestions or packages, please feel free to post them to the mailing list |
| 18:20.41 | Atarii | kk. do u have to sign up to the mailing list to see previous posts? |
| 18:20.52 | Atarii | or have i got the wrong idea? |
| 18:21.14 | Jaffa | No, the archive should be visible - it's just low traffic. |
| 18:21.39 | Atarii | ok |
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| 18:41.32 | Tybor | hi... I was upgrading my N800 (with an Ubuntu Gutsy). When I power it on i get from the flasher program this message "Sending request 0x83 failed: Cannot send after transport endpoint shutdown" |
| 18:44.42 | mgedmin | I think I saw this message when I tried to flash the 770 image on a N800 by mistake |
| 18:45.02 | mgedmin | I was really disappointed that it didn't just tell me straight away I had the wrong image |
| 18:45.12 | Tybor | mgedmin, perhaps it has something related to usbfs not mounted |
| 18:46.00 | Tybor | nothing changed |
| 18:47.44 | mgedmin | ah, no, I had a different message: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2007-August/006364.html |
| 18:52.13 | pupnik | now i want an apple II again |
| 18:52.27 | pupnik | !beep! whrrwhrrwhrrwhrr |
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| 19:25.07 | konttori | jaffa:here |
| 19:35.38 | Jaffa | konttori: was going to talk to you about Java mencoder wrappers. Spent an hour or so this weekend doing a proper OO one, abstracting out lots of code which I think might be beneficial to your MediaConverter given I noticed it's basically a single class doing all the work |
| 19:35.58 | Jaffa | But Mrs Jaffa needs me right now. |
| 19:36.00 | Jaffa | BBL. |
| 19:36.10 | konttori | see you. |
| 19:36.15 | konttori | interesting stuff |
| 19:36.18 | konttori | talk to you later |
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| 20:04.36 | pupnik | "I almost feel pity for those who grew up with modern games. " - Mobygame review of Ultima IV |
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| 20:19.46 | pauliukas | How do I use the jailbreak on the 770? |
| 20:19.55 | pauliukas | I already have it installed - but what next. |
| 20:20.15 | zerojay | Jailbreak? wtf is that? |
| 20:23.23 | pauliukas | uhhh |
| 20:23.26 | pauliukas | to be able to get root |
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| 20:25.36 | dpryo | pauliukas: sudo gainroot |
| 20:25.41 | pauliukas | thanks |
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| 20:33.40 | Tybor | mgedmin, i retried and retried, but it seems that Ubuntu feisty does not fit with flasher-3.0 and N800 |
| 20:34.22 | Tybor | does anyone know what's the issue that prevent flasher-3.0 on an ubuntu feisty/gutsy to upgrade an N800? |
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| 20:39.13 | pupnik | wb Atarii |
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| 20:40.05 | pupnik | Tybor: sorry i can't help. I will file your issue into my bag of hate for Ubuntu though. |
| 20:40.59 | Atarii | :) |
| 20:41.33 | Tybor | pupnik, 8) it seems that this bug also apply to Knoppix, isn't it? |
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| 20:49.40 | Tybor | pupnik, mgedmin: I did a really stupid silly error... -f instead of -F before the rom image |
| 20:49.49 | Tybor | it works perfectly until now |
| 20:54.53 | pupnik | ah good |
| 20:55.46 | mgedmin | Tybor: yes, the flasher has really horrific error reporting |
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| 21:08.52 | Tb0n3 | Canon makes some pretty win ccds |
| 21:10.01 | pupnik | i prefer the fujis for the low-light performance |
| 21:11.12 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/pupnik_n770_streetlan.jpg is a handheld snap at night |
| 21:13.12 | Tb0n3 | I took a picture of a carpet from 3 feet away, no zoom, I saw the fibers |
| 21:13.14 | Tb0n3 | all of them |
| 21:14.03 | Tb0n3 | I'll be sure to upload to my server and show, cause full 7.1MP shots are too big for photobucket |
| 21:14.03 | Tb0n3 | :/ |
| 21:14.43 | t_s_o | pupnik: is that the future of the homeless? |
| 21:14.50 | pupnik | yep |
| 21:14.53 | Tb0n3 | lol |
| 21:14.56 | t_s_o | hmm, kinda cyberpunk :P |
| 21:16.57 | disq | today the camera popped without me noticing. i was roaming around in ikea |
| 21:17.09 | disq | needless to say the battery went dead quickly |
| 21:17.16 | Tb0n3 | popped? |
| 21:17.46 | disq | i keep the device in my pants pocket. and i put my hands in my pockets too. so, it's possible |
| 21:18.08 | Tb0n3 | popped? |
| 21:18.16 | Tb0n3 | like, exploded? |
| 21:18.23 | disq | yeah. look it up. i gotta sleep. |
| 21:18.33 | disq | why would a camera explode |
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| 21:18.52 | Tb0n3 | well, I'm returning this one and playing the extra $50 for the IS model |
| 21:18.59 | Tb0n3 | night shots that much better |
| 21:19.05 | Tb0n3 | and more crisp shots |
| 21:19.10 | disq | is is well worth the 50usd extra |
| 21:19.15 | Tb0n3 | ;) |
| 21:19.21 | Tb0n3 | Canon A570IS |
| 21:19.58 | disq | i'd prefer sd800 or sd850 |
| 21:20.08 | Tb0n3 | I don't mind the size |
| 21:20.15 | disq | though the a series are much cheaper |
| 21:23.17 | Tb0n3 | it works for what I want it to |
| 21:23.27 | Tb0n3 | lulz, 5.34MB |
| 21:23.33 | Tb0n3 | of carpet |
| 21:25.47 | Tb0n3 | MMCplus cards are nice and fast |
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| 21:38.29 | Tb0n3 | tb0n3.mine.nu:4444/pic.jpg |
| 21:38.30 | Tb0n3 | there |
| 21:38.33 | Tb0n3 | finally |
| 21:38.51 | Tb0n3 | forgot about permisions and restarting apache |
| 21:38.52 | Tb0n3 | XD |
| 21:40.12 | Tb0n3 | disq |
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| 22:02.13 | pupnik | ultima 3 for gameboy sources... http://aiera.timeimmortal.net/downloads/u3-gameboysource.zip |
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| 22:17.54 | Tb0n3 | how much did you pay? |
| 22:18.23 | Tb0n3 | how well are the sharp zaurus' supported btw? |
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| 22:19.44 | esworp | i paid 270ish from amazon right when they lowered the price. |
| 22:19.50 | esworp | (tacked on two 2gig sd cards, too) |
| 22:21.33 | esworp | don't know much about the zaurus'.. I'm a (reformed and ex-) palm guy. |
| 22:22.44 | pupnik | then you can help with palm emulator testing |
| 22:22.46 | pupnik | pose? |
| 22:22.58 | pupnik | what's up with monkey forgetting stuff |
| 22:25.39 | esworp | i would love poke at the emulator.. |
| 22:25.44 | esworp | er, l,ove /to/ |
| 22:26.21 | pupnik | only a couple of users so far - needs some polishing - unique311 did most of the work after i got it running |
| 22:29.33 | Tb0n3 | so, I think I have a bunch of daemons running slowing my 770 down |
| 22:29.36 | Tb0n3 | what does I do? |
| 22:34.39 | pupnik | kill them with fire |
| 22:36.22 | Atarii | is there a linux command to show running processes/cpu usage etc? |
| 22:36.34 | pupnik | top |
| 22:36.36 | esworp | top |
| 22:36.41 | Atarii | thanks |
| 22:36.42 | esworp | toprats. |
| 22:37.05 | Atarii | now i need to load apps on my 770 which will wow my mates 2moz |
| 22:37.23 | Atarii | doom is a good choice, people seem impressed with that |
| 22:37.49 | pupnik | i think quake is cooler |
| 22:38.05 | Atarii | aha havnt tried that |
| 22:38.08 | pupnik | descent 2 still needs some tweaks |
| 22:38.22 | Tb0n3 | for some reason, when I run airodump I get bad crap in it |
| 22:38.29 | pupnik | show em scummvm - that looks great |
| 22:38.35 | Tb0n3 | it ends up going on forever with bad mac addresses |
| 22:40.06 | Tb0n3 | omg |
| 22:40.11 | Tb0n3 | thanx for that |
| 22:40.13 | Tb0n3 | top :D |
| 22:41.43 | Atarii | think the airodump-ng is a known problem and sumthin to do with the drivers |
| 22:42.19 | Tb0n3 | :( |
| 22:42.22 | Tb0n3 | wirelesstools |
| 22:42.23 | Tb0n3 | lol |
| 22:42.28 | Tb0n3 | I wondered what that was |
| 22:42.35 | Tb0n3 | and the package was "wirelesstools" |
| 22:51.03 | Tb0n3 | man, if I had a dualcore I'd totally be cracking this rar password faster |
| 22:51.04 | Tb0n3 | totally |
| 22:51.06 | Tb0n3 | ... |
| 22:51.59 | Tb0n3 | 14,776,336 total passwords at 4 chars 815,500 processed |
| 22:52.54 | Tb0n3 | anybody have an ebook on c++ that I can read on my 770? |
| 22:58.42 | pupnik | PLEASE PLACE THE TOWNE DISK INTO DRIVE 1 AND PRESS [ESC] |
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| 23:06.12 | zerojay | YOU ARE NEW TO TEH INTERNETS? [Y/n] |
| 23:12.28 | pupnik | the apple II only had caps |
| 23:12.44 | pupnik | health? |
| 23:16.57 | zerojay | http://www.engadget.com/2007/10/06/norco-ds-520-home-nas-is-probably-more-server-than-you-need/ |
| 23:16.58 | pupnik | Thy sacrifice is small. Give of thy lifes blood that others may live. |
| 23:17.02 | zerojay | yummy |
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| 23:29.10 | Atarii | so if im putting quake on my 770 with 2007he do i use the 800 deb or the 770 version? |
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