| 00:00.47 | satd | any1 know how i can install hamachi into n770? |
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| 00:19.57 | Tb0n3 | so, is it just me or is the 770's lcd too sensitive to pressure |
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| 00:20.08 | Tb0n3 | it's like I'm pressing on my laptop screen |
| 00:28.28 | satd | if i am trying to access n770 by ssh |
| 00:28.35 | satd | what is the default user id and pass? |
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| 00:31.10 | esworp | ok folks... time to help me drink the Kool-Aid... |
| 00:31.24 | esworp | I'm totally sick of my lifedrive, and am on the fence about getting a n800. |
| 00:31.57 | esworp | but my trepidation stems from that fact that I'm not sur eif the n800/maemo can offe a suitable calendar/datebook app. |
| 00:32.17 | esworp | any thoughts? |
| 00:32.48 | zerojay | There's none from Nokia themselves. |
| 00:32.56 | zerojay | But there are 3rd party apps for it. |
| 00:33.10 | esworp | right, i noticed that there was a GPE offering.. |
| 00:33.20 | esworp | wasn't sr eif it was worth it. |
| 00:33.33 | zerojay | Well, only you can make that choice. |
| 00:34.23 | esworp | I'm hoping to find somone who has use a palm a whatever works on maemo. |
| 00:34.31 | esworp | sorta comparison.. |
| 00:35.07 | esworp | like if it turns out that the gpe app takes a while to open, it would sorta negate the idea of being able to slam a meeting into it real fast-like. |
| 00:35.08 | esworp | :] |
| 00:35.44 | zerojay | Is there ever a time when a meeting has to be slammed into it... real fast-like? |
| 00:35.55 | esworp | ... |
| 00:36.29 | zerojay | I'm sure GPE should be able to handle it. |
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| 00:40.30 | esworp | ha! |
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| 00:42.14 | esworp | i hear that the battery life with a wifi connection is roughly 3 hors. does keeing the radio off give you a measurable amont of additinal battery life. |
| 00:42.14 | esworp | \? |
| 00:42.29 | gnuite | Ok, this is interesting. Regarding connectivity_preload.sh and automatic connecting: wget works on both 770 and N800 (automatically connects when needed), but my application only connects automatically on the 770 (not the N800) - is there are difference in the auto-connect preload libraries between 770 and N800? |
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| 00:44.36 | satd | how do change to root |
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| 00:44.43 | satd | in xterm it says i am user |
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| 00:58.02 | esworp | not to be a nancy, but did anyone catch my earlier question about battery life? |
| 00:58.49 | zerojay | Putting yourself into offline mode does save battery, sure. |
| 00:59.31 | zerojay | Turning off bluetooth if you aren't using it helps also. |
| 01:00.07 | esworp | would you say it goes from 3(ish) hours to 5(ish)? |
| 01:01.00 | zerojay | Hard to say, but I would say that it sounds about right. It really kind of depends on how actively you are using the tablet. |
| 01:01.45 | zerojay | It'll last pretty much all day with Wifi on if you aren't really using it much. |
| 01:01.51 | esworp | gotcha. (obviously) I'm looking to use it as a bigass PDA. |
| 01:02.08 | zerojay | Yeah, but it's not a PDA, so you might find yourself disappointed. |
| 01:02.39 | esworp | i understand. I'm looking for what it is (internet tablett thingy), plus a datebook. |
| 01:02.46 | esworp | I'm migrating /from/ a llifedrive, so I use + |
| 01:02.48 | esworp | oops |
| 01:02.59 | zerojay | I don't know it. Never used it. |
| 01:03.00 | esworp | so i use what I have now as a mdeia dingus and a organizer |
| 01:03.37 | esworp | I /think/ I'd be happy with it, providing the datebook app choices are decent. |
| 01:05.46 | zerojay | As far as I know, GPE's pretty good. |
| 01:05.51 | zerojay | I don't really use it so... |
| 01:06.02 | zerojay | There's another one too.. |
| 01:06.08 | esworp | hopefully I'll bump into someone who has/does. |
| 01:06.27 | zerojay | It's generally well regarded. |
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| 01:10.17 | satd | how do i get root access? |
| 01:10.26 | zerojay | Why do you need root access? |
| 01:10.45 | satd | to install hamachi |
| 01:10.50 | Tb0n3 | how does one xvid canola? |
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| 01:21.41 | gnuite | If I upgrade my app to use libconic, will it work on the 770? |
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| 01:38.08 | gnuite | Why is there no x86 version of libconic0? |
| 01:43.37 | satd | hwo o i change root password in n770 |
| 02:03.05 | satd | can some1 here help me with n770 |
| 02:03.09 | satd | and installing hamachi |
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| 03:57.28 | SenileBob | Has anyone tried removing functionality from the N800, such as media playback? And adding just their own software to it? Like a kiosk mode? |
| 04:04.59 | pupnik | you can add a program to startup script that will run full screen |
| 04:06.32 | pupnik | as far as kiosk mode... depends if you want to prevent users with device in-hand from accessing the OS completely |
| 04:06.48 | pupnik | in which case you have to disable the 'home' and 'power' buttons while your app is running |
| 04:07.57 | pupnik | Also for your kiosk mode home controller you'll need to implement code, or at least calls, to connect to your wlan without allowing user access to the os |
| 04:08.00 | pupnik | i guess that's obvious |
| 04:20.09 | unique311 | trevarthan: |
| 04:20.23 | unique311 | you got a minute? |
| 04:21.12 | unique311 | really anyone that knows python pretty well |
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| 05:07.21 | SenileBob | pupnik: thanks for the replies, i stepped out for a few minutes... |
| 05:08.00 | SenileBob | could kiosk mode be done so that the web browser and wlan setup apps still can be launched, but nothing else other than a custom app? |
| 05:08.35 | SenileBob | and can the app handle hard button presses such as home, and do something when the buttons are pressed, like go to a home screen? |
| 05:17.36 | pupnik | i think you might be able to do 1) |
| 05:17.54 | SenileBob | great, and 2)? :D |
| 05:18.05 | pupnik | re 2) all the buttons except home key are visible to your app |
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| 05:18.34 | pupnik | or let me put it this way - i haven't seen any apps that re-map what the home key does |
| 05:18.37 | disq | morning |
| 05:18.38 | _Monkey | aloha |
| 05:18.50 | SenileBob | ok, but it MIGHT still be possible |
| 05:18.50 | disq | seen powerlaunch? it's exciting stuff |
| 05:18.51 | _Monkey | I haven't seen 'powerlaunch', disq |
| 05:18.57 | pupnik | ho |
| 05:19.01 | disq | shut up _Monkey |
| 05:19.05 | pupnik | yes definitely |
| 05:19.17 | pupnik | definitely possible for /supergeek/ |
| 05:20.09 | SenileBob | ok, sounds like the N800 can do what i need |
| 05:22.04 | SenileBob | I have one company getting me a quote, but if anyone else is interested in doing some N800 programming for us, please let me know! :) |
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| 05:37.45 | pupnik | I don't trust my own quotes much less those of others |
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| 07:14.47 | jani | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/symbian_debugging.jpg =) |
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| 07:58.47 | zwnj | does kernel of version 2007.4 support SDHC? |
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| 08:08.12 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 08:08.22 | Jaffa | zwnj: yes |
| 08:08.40 | zwnj | perfect |
| 08:08.43 | zwnj | thanks Jaffa :) |
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| 08:15.04 | edistar | is the release of OS2007 for the n770 useable? |
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| 08:29.42 | disq | Jaffa: check out powerlaunch (thread in maemo-users) it's genius |
| 08:30.32 | disq | _Monkey: powerlaunch is http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/users/28243 |
| 08:30.33 | _Monkey | OK, disq. |
| 08:31.00 | edistar | where do I find information how to (re-)flash my n770? |
| 08:31.45 | edistar | while I was installing openssh-common it deinstalled everything that had to do with osso* so I am left with nearly nothing |
| 08:31.54 | disq | uh |
| 08:32.36 | disq | ITT should have some thread, but it's actually pretty straightforward |
| 08:33.02 | disq | get the flasher binary, get the firmware from http://tablet-dev.maemo.org/ and follow instructions |
| 08:33.05 | edistar | disq: ok http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_flashlatestnokiaimagewithlinux/ this correct? |
| 08:34.03 | disq | the commandline parameters etc are accurate yes |
| 08:34.23 | edistar | disq: thx |
| 08:34.30 | disq | but download the _latest_ OS2006 image (follow the link there, maemo.org/downloads/770) instead |
| 08:34.40 | disq | erm, looks like tablet-dev doesn't have the firmware images btw i was wrong |
| 08:35.43 | edistar | disq: do you think the os2007_hacker_edition is stable enough for a bit of surfing around? |
| 08:36.18 | disq | never used it, but afaik it is pretty much usable. except for the cover, afaik it won't go into standby with the cover on |
| 08:37.46 | edistar | disq, thats quite annoying... |
| 08:38.03 | edistar | I'll test |
| 08:38.41 | disq | in n800, mce has a "softpoweroff" mode that you can use, to turn the screen and keypad events off |
| 08:38.47 | disq | saves quite a lot of power |
| 08:39.01 | edistar | mce? |
| 08:39.04 | disq | maybe it could also work with 770, you should check out /etc/mce/mce.ini and /etc/systemui/ |
| 08:39.24 | edistar | disq: ok, I'll check, sounds quite interesting |
| 08:39.53 | disq | it's one of the programs that control the keypad/screen locking and that kind of things |
| 08:40.23 | disq | (softpoweroff doesn't exist in OS2006 tho) |
| 08:42.24 | edistar | disq: sounds nice though :) |
| 08:42.45 | edistar | I don't like the design of the n800 |
| 08:44.22 | GeneralAntilles | I keep hearing that, and I still don't understand it. |
| 08:44.50 | edistar | GeneralAntilles: I just love the metal sliding case :P |
| 08:45.11 | disq | ergonomically it's better (dpad location, better screen feeling, etc) but i too missed the 770's cover for a while when i first got it |
| 08:45.15 | edistar | GeneralAntilles: makes a much stronger impression |
| 08:45.18 | disq | not to mention the stupid design of the top buttons |
| 08:45.50 | disq | but you get used to both. |
| 08:45.58 | edistar | I suppose the hardware is better in the n800 :( screen too, but still, don't have that much money and I'm saving for a neo1973 ;) |
| 08:48.03 | edistar | os2007 looks quite cool |
| 08:48.10 | edistar | the keyboard does ;) |
| 08:50.27 | disq | yep |
| 08:50.53 | edistar | it's really weird! |
| 08:50.58 | edistar | really have to get used to it.. |
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| 09:21.20 | disq | no |
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| 09:51.07 | Nai | good morning(~ugt) |
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| 09:51.49 | Nai | Any body can tell me . N700 or N770 which is correct? |
| 09:52.12 | inz | 770 |
| 09:52.14 | inz | without N |
| 09:52.16 | onion | Nai: it's 770.. no 'N' |
| 09:53.10 | Nai | Ya .thank you very much. |
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| 09:54.20 | Test_ | good morning(~ugt) |
| 09:56.08 | inz | disq, maybe it doesn't handle the top_application dbus method call? |
| 09:56.45 | disq | inz: isn't matchbox supposed to switch to the application? |
| 09:57.08 | disq | though i think it's not involved |
| 09:58.40 | inz | disq, osso_application_top() sends a dbus message to the service and it's up to that service to top itself. |
| 09:59.58 | inz | disq, so matchbox is only involved once the topped service calls window_present or something alike |
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| 10:00.10 | disq | okay thanks |
| 10:00.15 | disq | check out powerlaunch btw :P |
| 10:01.55 | Big_B | Hi lardman!!!!!!!!! |
| 10:01.56 | _Monkey | hi lardman are you here!! |
| 10:02.04 | lardman | morning |
| 10:02.05 | _Monkey | aloha |
| 10:02.40 | lardman | disq: Any screenshots of PowerLaunch? |
| 10:03.24 | disq | the auther didn't provide any, but it's just a window with a cancel button on it |
| 10:03.51 | lardman | and that replaces the maemo desktop? |
| 10:04.00 | disq | there's a glade file with multiple "windows" though and you can change it to suit your needs |
| 10:04.13 | disq | no. not the desktop |
| 10:04.16 | disq | _Monkey: powerlaunch? |
| 10:04.17 | _Monkey | rumour has it powerlaunch is http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/users/28243 |
| 10:04.49 | lardman | _Monkey: I never thought I'd say it, but thanks, you've been useful ;) |
| 10:04.49 | _Monkey | de nada lardman |
| 10:05.33 | lardman | disq: ah, I see |
| 10:06.16 | disq | having softpoweroff with keypad enabled (and being able to macro it easily) is really nice for media playback |
| 10:06.23 | inz | disq, so it implements systemui powerkeymenu and claims to replace it? |
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| 10:06.31 | inz | s/it/systemui/ |
| 10:06.34 | disq | yeah |
| 10:06.42 | inz | grr |
| 10:06.48 | disq | you can make multiple powerkeymenus and switch thru them etc |
| 10:07.05 | inz | But you lose alarm, "charging mode"... |
| 10:07.09 | disq | put buttons on there to run stuff/change settings. or just configure key macros |
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| 10:07.36 | disq | afaik systemui is the powerkeymenu, nothing else |
| 10:07.41 | inz | false |
| 10:07.44 | inz | ls /usr/lib/systemui |
| 10:08.16 | disq | also, it doesn't replace it. it provides an alternative for it. you stop systemui and run powerlaunch at startup |
| 10:08.23 | disq | so systemui binary is still tehre |
| 10:08.28 | disq | there even |
| 10:09.04 | inz | Hmm, I wonder if it's guaranteed that you may "spy" method_calls like that |
| 10:09.36 | disq | not sure what will happen if i disable systemui in init.d and run powerlaunch instead |
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| 10:40.43 | lardman | hmm, I thought people had concluded that there'd be a software update today, based on the comment in the bugtracker |
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| 10:41.35 | inz | where? |
| 10:42.12 | lardman | in the bug for the SD card problems |
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| 10:44.26 | lardman | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204 comment #112 |
| 10:44.38 | lardman | #109 actually |
| 10:51.45 | inz | Umh, there indeed seems to be a "planned" release date |
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| 11:02.21 | Jaffa | I'd be surprised (and impressed) if it was a Chinook-based IT OS, rather than basically a kernel patch for the SDHC issue |
| 11:04.44 | lardman | true |
| 11:05.20 | lardman | I wonder if the new tablet will be chinook based though, and that's presumably not too far off (though a couple of months is a fair time I suppose) |
| 11:05.44 | disq | i'm guessing so |
| 11:08.44 | atul | hi |
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| 11:13.01 | Jaffa | Ah, there's info on it already available. It's another 4.2007 version containing just the SDHC fix |
| 11:13.14 | Jaffa | lardman: agreed |
| 11:13.23 | Jaffa | http://europe.nokia.com/link?cid=PLAIN_TEXT_80293 |
| 11:13.59 | lardman | oh, so nothing except the fix |
| 11:14.03 | lardman | oh well |
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| 11:17.00 | lardman | Presumably the kernel fix won't have removed any symbols - just thinking about flashing it on its own to avoid needing to re-install everything |
| 11:20.22 | disq | yeah i'd like to do that too |
| 11:20.52 | lardman | hmm, doesn't look like the new one is on maemo.org yet |
| 11:21.10 | lardman | 4.2007.26-8 is the latest one |
| 11:21.22 | lardman | on here rather: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php |
| 11:24.32 | pupnik | it appears i don't need any active scripts on a website to make a debian repo |
| 11:24.38 | pupnik | just proper structure and files |
| 11:25.51 | disq | yep |
| 11:26.59 | pupnik | ok i didn't know that |
| 11:27.32 | pupnik | thought i couldn't host a repo on my simple webhost |
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| 11:51.52 | lardman | see you chaps later |
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| 12:24.32 | disq | RX-34_2007SE_4.2007.38-2_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin up at http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/ |
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| 12:24.47 | disq | surprised i'm the one that found about it first |
| 12:25.18 | Veggen | hmm. if it works, perhaps I should finally get an 8 GB card or two myself... |
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| 12:36.48 | atul | hi |
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| 12:50.59 | atul | hi |
| 12:51.00 | _Monkey | bonjour, atul |
| 12:51.31 | atul | hi i want to know how to sest audio on the emulator |
| 12:51.52 | atul | i want to set audio for Xephyr using Maemo |
| 12:52.02 | atul | hello _Monkey |
| 12:52.03 | _Monkey | niihau, atul |
| 12:52.13 | atul | plz reply |
| 12:52.14 | atul | me |
| 12:53.01 | gla55_ | maybe nobody is just here now |
| 12:53.37 | Veggen | ..or nobody that knows the answer ;) |
| 13:01.21 | atul | exit |
| 13:01.23 | atul | exit |
| 13:01.42 | atul | ok |
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| 13:32.58 | eichi | do i ned a special kernel for nfs server and client on n800 ? |
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| 13:34.57 | b0unc3 | eichi: yes |
| 13:35.35 | satd | hey |
| 13:35.37 | satd | need help |
| 13:35.50 | satd | trying to install hamachi on n770 |
| 13:36.02 | satd | i was told to install as root |
| 13:36.11 | satd | when i do sudo ./install |
| 13:36.14 | eichi | b0unc3: cant i use only a module for it? |
| 13:36.16 | satd | it comes up with error |
| 13:36.41 | b0unc3 | eichi: yes, of course |
| 13:36.46 | b0unc3 | satd: on the tablet ? |
| 13:36.55 | satd | Sorry, user user is not allowed to execute ./install as root on Nokida770 |
| 13:36.59 | satd | yea on the tablet |
| 13:37.18 | pakos_ | satd: are there hamachi binaries for the N770? :-o |
| 13:37.27 | satd | yea |
| 13:37.41 | satd | http://files.hamachi.cc/linux/nokia-770/ |
| 13:37.54 | eichi | b0unc3: than its great ;) i dont want to work with the kernel itself :P - to much stress |
| 13:38.10 | pakos_ | satd: wow, didn't know that, thanks |
| 13:38.23 | b0unc3 | satd: ;) |
| 13:38.31 | b0unc3 | ops.. eichi :) |
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| 13:40.52 | satd | now i need help installing it |
| 13:40.54 | satd | :D |
| 13:41.38 | pakos_ | :) if i understand you correctly, you need to get root somehow, right? |
| 13:42.09 | X-Fade | Did anybody see a Changelog for the new N800 firmware? |
| 13:43.04 | satd | yea |
| 13:43.14 | Veggen | X-Fade: according to http://europe.nokia.com/link?cid=PLAIN_TEXT_80293 it's only 8GB card fix. |
| 13:43.28 | satd | Run './install' and then 'tuncfg' from under the root account |
| 13:43.28 | satd | Run 'hamachi-init' to generate crypto identity (any account). |
| 13:43.28 | satd | Run 'hamachi start' to launch Hamachi daemon. |
| 13:43.28 | satd | Run 'hamachi login' to put the daemon online and to create an account. |
| 13:43.28 | satd | Run 'hamachi join <network>' to join the network. |
| 13:43.29 | satd | Run 'hamachi go-online <network>' to go online in the network. |
| 13:43.31 | satd | Run 'hamachi list' to list network members and their status. |
| 13:43.33 | ||cw | ... |
| 13:44.00 | X-Fade | Veggen: Yeah, I diffed the firmwares and I see some more changes though ;) |
| 13:44.43 | inz | satd, http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot |
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| 13:48.26 | satd | all the gray box are empty for me... |
| 13:48.32 | satd | what browser should i be using |
| 13:50.59 | pakos_ | satd: works fine with firefox 2.0.0.6, konqueror 3.5.7 and opera 9.23 (on kubuntu feisty) |
| 13:52.27 | satd | i am on opera 9.23 |
| 13:52.37 | satd | and all the gray boxes are empty |
| 13:52.42 | satd | i don't see no text in them.. |
| 13:52.52 | satd | shoud i enable something to see them.. |
| 13:55.39 | pakos_ | seems pretty standard html for me |
| 13:56.06 | pakos_ | satd: do you have a custom css? |
| 13:56.47 | b0unc3 | no problem with opera 9.23 here |
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| 14:00.28 | satd | no |
| 14:00.33 | satd | i don't have custom css |
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| 14:14.05 | eichi | someone knows, how to install nfs-common on maemo? it seems, that i need some perl extras as depency..someone knows? |
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| 14:32.30 | |R | http://web.media.mit.edu/~lifton/snippets/n800_to_sl/ <- some is having fun, i'll need to use this to have a streaming feed |
| 14:32.42 | |R | s/some/someone |
| 14:33.20 | pakos_ | does anyone know, if the opera browser of the n800 is npapi-compatible? |
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| 14:42.32 | eichi_n800 | damn apt-get install nfs-common will remove half of my system .... :) |
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| 15:13.34 | satd | how do i change folder in root |
| 15:13.47 | satd | to do this |
| 15:13.52 | satd | do i log in as root? |
| 15:13.54 | satd | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot |
| 15:14.20 | zoran | are u root in this moment? |
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| 15:20.51 | satd | yes |
| 15:21.08 | satd | its says nokia770-49# |
| 15:22.46 | satd | tried to install dropbear |
| 15:22.53 | satd | its says incompatible packages |
| 15:25.58 | zoran | ah, you have to set repositories to get them via apt |
| 15:26.18 | zoran | why not openssh? |
| 15:27.16 | satd | i have run openssh |
| 15:27.32 | satd | Sorry, user user is not allowed to execute './install' as root on Nokia770-49. |
| 15:27.54 | zoran | it is good, as I see it |
| 15:28.13 | satd | what should i do |
| 15:28.17 | zoran | my 770 is bricked in this moment, so have to recall from memory |
| 15:28.36 | satd | i am trying to install hamachi |
| 15:28.41 | zoran | go out of this and find maemowiki/ApplicationCatalog2006 |
| 15:28.59 | satd | i did |
| 15:29.09 | zoran | so, open puts app in memory |
| 15:29.26 | zoran | sudo starts up and lets you to do install |
| 15:30.01 | zoran | debian way would be to add repository and do "apt-get install my_app" |
| 15:30.17 | satd | not sure what u mean.. |
| 15:30.20 | satd | i am lost |
| 15:30.35 | satd | never used linux anything but windows b4 |
| 15:30.37 | zoran | may I ask, what app u try to install? |
| 15:30.59 | zoran | remember, I have no 770 at my sight |
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| 15:32.34 | rik | anyone got the cpan module onto an N800? |
| 15:32.40 | satd | hamachi |
| 15:32.41 | _Monkey | hamachi is closed source, and there's not version for the ARM architecture, how did you get it to run ? |
| 15:32.46 | zoran | k, found, vpn app |
| 15:33.09 | red-zack | satd: hamachi for 770? |
| 15:33.16 | satd | is _Monkey a bot? |
| 15:33.38 | zoran | _Monkey talks, as I see |
| 15:33.38 | _Monkey | zoran: what? |
| 15:33.47 | zoran | :) |
| 15:33.50 | satd | ohh |
| 15:33.51 | satd | ha |
| 15:33.52 | zoran | what to answer? |
| 15:34.12 | satd | red-zack>>yes for 770 |
| 15:34.22 | zoran | _Monkey, found a link for that app |
| 15:34.23 | _Monkey | zoran: what? |
| 15:34.30 | satd | for what? |
| 15:34.34 | satd | hamachi? |
| 15:34.35 | _Monkey | hmmm... hamachi is closed source, and there's not version for the ARM architecture, how did you get it to run ? |
| 15:34.36 | red-zack | for hamachi? |
| 15:34.37 | zoran | hamachi |
| 15:34.38 | _Monkey | rumour has it hamachi is closed source, and there's not version for the ARM architecture, how did you get it to run |
| 15:34.38 | red-zack | show me |
| 15:34.45 | satd | Sorry, user user is not allowed to execute './install' as root on Nokia770-49. |
| 15:34.53 | zoran | sec |
| 15:34.57 | rik | _Monkey: forget hamachi |
| 15:34.57 | _Monkey | rik: I forgot hamachi |
| 15:35.17 | satd | http://files.hamachi.cc/linux/nokia-770/ |
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| 15:35.34 | zoran | mikesl300i.blogspot.com/2006/09/hamachi-vns-and-nokia-770.html |
| 15:36.04 | red-zack | satd: do you have any linux expirience? |
| 15:36.08 | satd | nope |
| 15:36.14 | red-zack | satd: forget hamachi |
| 15:36.19 | satd | y? |
| 15:36.22 | red-zack | y |
| 15:36.38 | red-zack | because you should compile it |
| 15:36.49 | zoran | 770 has no proper firewall, everything else is of no use |
| 15:37.09 | red-zack | yes, this is the other thing |
| 15:37.26 | satd | tar -zxvf hamachi-0.9.9.9-20-lnx-n770.tar.gz |
| 15:37.28 | satd | did that |
| 15:37.36 | satd | and it unpacked into folder |
| 15:37.39 | red-zack | ok, this is extracting |
| 15:37.54 | red-zack | but u need to compile the source |
| 15:37.59 | zoran | on 770? |
| 15:38.16 | satd | ./install: 7: HAMACHI_DST: not found |
| 15:38.16 | satd | Copying hamachi into .. |
| 15:38.16 | satd | cp: unable to open `/usr/bin/hamachi': Permission denied |
| 15:38.16 | satd | chmod: /usr/bin/hamachi: No such file or directory |
| 15:38.16 | satd | Creating hamachi-init symlink .. |
| 15:38.17 | satd | ln: /usr/bin/hamachi-init: Permission denied |
| 15:38.19 | satd | Copying tuncfg into /sbin .. |
| 15:38.21 | satd | cp: unable to open `/sbin/tuncfg': Permission denied |
| 15:38.22 | red-zack | jesus.. |
| 15:38.23 | satd | chmod: /sbin/tuncfg: No such file or directory |
| 15:38.25 | satd | Hamachi is installed. See README for what to do next. |
| 15:38.27 | satd | thats what i get |
| 15:38.29 | satd | when i try into install it.. |
| 15:38.43 | zoran | we created monster! |
| 15:38.57 | satd | :P |
| 15:39.01 | zoran | would u "ls" |
| 15:39.01 | red-zack | we? u ;P |
| 15:39.18 | satd | ls in which folder |
| 15:39.28 | zoran | u just opened |
| 15:39.34 | satd | Nokia770-49:~/MyDocs/.documents/hamachi$ ls |
| 15:39.34 | satd | CHANGES LICENSE.openssl hamachi |
| 15:39.34 | satd | LICENSE LICENSE.tuncfg install |
| 15:39.34 | satd | LICENSE.openssh README tuncfg |
| 15:39.38 | zoran | btw, may I ask a question, stupid one? |
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| 15:39.50 | satd | no question is stupid question.. |
| 15:39.54 | satd | you may |
| 15:40.02 | red-zack | lol, many are ;) |
| 15:40.07 | satd | hahaha |
| 15:40.07 | zoran | how did u installed gregale? |
| 15:40.14 | satd | :S |
| 15:40.21 | satd | here comes stupid question..... |
| 15:40.24 | zoran | it is what I have to do next days |
| 15:40.25 | satd | what is gregale? |
| 15:40.25 | _Monkey | i guess gregale is something else entirely |
| 15:40.33 | zoran | 3.2006.49 |
| 15:40.48 | zoran | one needs linux or knoppix |
| 15:40.55 | satd | from windows |
| 15:41.00 | zoran | I have freebsd and nothing else |
| 15:41.01 | satd | with flasher.. |
| 15:41.41 | satd | OS version 3.2006.49-2 |
| 15:41.43 | satd | thats what i have |
| 15:41.50 | zoran | I have it on my hdd |
| 15:42.00 | zoran | do, it should reflash 770 |
| 15:42.08 | zoran | with flasher-2.0 |
| 15:42.20 | satd | y do i need to reflash it? |
| 15:42.26 | zoran | flsher needs linux libs |
| 15:42.32 | zoran | no, me |
| 15:42.37 | satd | ohhh |
| 15:42.51 | zoran | I made mistake and let shell go around |
| 15:42.59 | satd | is gregale is the OS? |
| 15:43.01 | zoran | no way to intercept it |
| 15:43.06 | zoran | yes |
| 15:43.10 | zoran | as I know |
| 15:43.18 | zoran | (not much) |
| 15:43.32 | b0unc3 | satd: gregale is the codename for the sdk... not for the firmware |
| 15:43.34 | satd | how do i install this hamachi? |
| 15:43.35 | zoran | one way could be to put bin on usb |
| 15:43.42 | zoran | ah, sorry |
| 15:43.50 | satd | thanks bounce |
| 15:44.05 | zoran | b0unc3, what would be repository then? |
| 15:44.48 | satd | bounce>know any way i can install this hamachi... |
| 15:44.53 | satd | been on this for 3 days |
| 15:45.34 | czr | anyone aware of any big snags with chinook (beta)? running the installer now. |
| 15:46.09 | b0unc3 | zoran: I use mistral and gregale on 770 with the latest firmware version |
| 15:46.31 | zoran | thanx |
| 15:46.46 | zoran | I found link to hamachi year ago, but goes nowhere |
| 15:47.01 | satd | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2009&page=2 |
| 15:47.17 | b0unc3 | satd: I have never installed hamachi... |
| 15:47.20 | zoran | name of poster was whyte tygre |
| 15:47.55 | zoran | satd, why do yo need exactly that? |
| 15:48.52 | zoran | b0unc3, how could I make "./flasher" if it is on ntfs partiotion? |
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| 15:49.10 | zoran | I could go to friend and ask him to start up knopoix for me |
| 15:49.35 | b0unc3 | zoran: why you have flasher on a ntfs partition? |
| 15:49.43 | zoran | I don't |
| 15:49.57 | zoran | I have some old knoppix in my nands |
| 15:50.03 | zoran | and freebsd on hdd |
| 15:50.06 | zoran | nothing more |
| 15:50.13 | zoran | no win, no linux |
| 15:50.31 | zoran | how to manage with friends box with win? |
| 15:50.48 | zoran | nokia has some genuine flasher, I think |
| 15:50.54 | b0unc3 | I think you can run the flasher on freebsd |
| 15:51.01 | zoran | no, I cant |
| 15:51.06 | b0unc3 | ah k |
| 15:51.14 | zoran | asks for linux libs |
| 15:51.38 | zoran | pain in the ..., with this libs dependencies |
| 15:52.04 | zoran | if I start live cd, where to put flasher and bin file? |
| 15:52.26 | zoran | usb stick could be the issue |
| 15:52.44 | czr | live cds run from RAM |
| 15:52.47 | zoran | mount usb stick and look at it to start flasher |
| 15:52.52 | zoran | yes :) |
| 15:53.00 | czr | so normally it's enough to put the flasher where ever you want (if you download it within the live cd session) |
| 15:53.03 | zoran | but flasher is on my fss hdd |
| 15:53.15 | czr | fss? |
| 15:53.21 | zoran | linux does not see fss partition |
| 15:53.27 | zoran | bsd file system |
| 15:53.38 | czr | ah. can't you redownload it? |
| 15:53.45 | czr | or just put it on FAT on an usb stick, or smt. |
| 15:53.48 | zoran | to ext2? |
| 15:53.51 | b0unc3 | zoran: yeah, put them on a pendrive and mount it without noexec |
| 15:54.02 | zoran | ah, usb 1.0 |
| 15:54.08 | zoran | but, nice answer |
| 15:54.22 | zoran | gonna try it when I have my usb back |
| 15:55.05 | rik | cpan, anyone? |
| 15:55.26 | zoran | with lemone, please |
| 15:55.40 | rik | sure. |
| 15:55.44 | zoran | :) |
| 15:55.59 | rik | you tell me how to install it on my N800, and i'll bring the lemon |
| 15:56.18 | zoran | hm, install what? |
| 15:56.28 | GeneralAntilles | We get a real change-log yet on the new firmware? |
| 15:56.29 | zoran | cpan? |
| 15:56.29 | rik | the cpan modules. |
| 15:56.35 | rik | i just want ot get some perl modules working. |
| 15:56.39 | rik | yeah. |
| 15:56.49 | zoran | believe it or not, I just copu them to the device |
| 15:57.06 | rik | the modules? |
| 15:57.16 | zoran | cpan likes their own way, via make... |
| 15:57.26 | zoran | make test etc |
| 15:57.34 | rik | yup |
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| 15:57.50 | zoran | no diff, if you ask me |
| 15:57.54 | rik | http://flux.org.uk/projects/rackmonkey/ is what i'm trying to get working. |
| 15:58.03 | zoran | lemme c |
| 15:58.09 | wacky_ | Is there a SIP/IAX phone that can be plugged into an Asterisk box, ready to use on Maemo right now ? |
| 15:58.18 | rik | wacky_: top of the news. yes. |
| 15:58.45 | zoran | man |
| 15:58.58 | wacky_ | rik: what is it ? |
| 15:58.59 | zoran | there is some device to do just that |
| 15:59.14 | rik | wacky_: keeps track of assets in a data centre. |
| 15:59.41 | wacky_ | hmm.. I would have expected the name of a software project as an answer :) |
| 15:59.43 | zoran | httpd or smaller |
| 15:59.47 | wacky_ | did I miss something ? |
| 15:59.55 | zoran | rackmonkey |
| 16:00.25 | zoran | I would choose ssh rather |
| 16:00.49 | zoran | db could be the prob |
| 16:00.58 | rik | db is fine. it sues SQLite |
| 16:01.11 | zoran | memory enough? |
| 16:01.17 | rik | shoul dbe. |
| 16:01.22 | zoran | web serv, db... |
| 16:01.31 | zoran | sessions |
| 16:01.38 | rik | session. singluar. |
| 16:01.47 | zoran | u have to trim all modules and services you could |
| 16:01.53 | zoran | bt |
| 16:02.23 | zoran | I saw ad for litle device doing just that |
| 16:02.35 | zoran | linux journal, september, porb |
| 16:03.19 | rik | doesn't hel pme so much. |
| 16:03.34 | zoran | :) |
| 16:03.54 | zoran | k, make new directories for HTML, DB... |
| 16:04.01 | zoran | and let modules sleep there |
| 16:04.11 | zoran | in the path for perl |
| 16:04.29 | zoran | DBI driver |
| 16:04.32 | zoran | what is that? |
| 16:04.56 | rik | the non-database-specific DB access librayr for perl. |
| 16:04.58 | zoran | u have tiny web server in reps |
| 16:05.16 | zoran | rik, it could work! |
| 16:05.28 | zoran | all stuff u already have |
| 16:06.26 | zoran | how big it is and in what language is written? |
| 16:06.37 | rik | perl. and not huge... |
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| 16:06.53 | zoran | k, about 60k |
| 16:07.30 | zoran | I c no data about auth method |
| 16:08.16 | Jaffa | ~ |
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| 16:09.07 | zoran | requirements say nothing about auth |
| 16:09.17 | rik | that's why i'm looking at the source. |
| 16:09.22 | zoran | :) |
| 16:09.37 | zoran | I have a glass device, called a ball |
| 16:09.51 | zoran | nothing there, for now! :) |
| 16:09.58 | zoran | k, no auth |
| 16:10.08 | zoran | what call method? |
| 16:10.19 | zoran | or, what port? |
| 16:10.54 | rik | it's a cgi script. |
| 16:10.54 | zoran | ah!!! |
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| 16:11.55 | zoran | does it _really_ manages anuthing? |
| 16:12.03 | rik | i don't know. |
| 16:12.04 | zoran | or shows statistics? |
| 16:12.11 | rik | for the third time, this is why i'm looking at the source. |
| 16:12.13 | zoran | latter, probably |
| 16:12.30 | zoran | stats |
| 16:13.09 | zoran | you could telnet or netcat to any port and get all those data |
| 16:13.29 | zoran | telnet www.myweb.com 80 |
| 16:13.38 | zoran | get / http/1.0 |
| 16:13.43 | zoran | enter 2x |
| 16:14.39 | rik | yup. looks likeit relies on the web server to authenticate, but not to authorise. doesn't look like there's much in the way of state. |
| 16:14.56 | zoran | so, let it go |
| 16:15.11 | zoran | (fish is too small) |
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| 16:16.00 | zoran | rik, how many boxes would you like to manage? |
| 16:16.25 | rik | not sure |
| 16:16.33 | rik | doesn't reall ymatter though. that data resides on disk |
| 16:16.41 | zoran | k, install "screen" |
| 16:16.50 | zoran | ssh to particular node |
| 16:17.02 | zoran | open in screen as many instances as you like |
| 16:17.09 | zoran | ssh to all of them |
| 16:17.24 | zoran | from 770 as a charm |
| 16:18.03 | zoran | could be tricky to use screen on 770, since it has no hw keyboard |
| 16:18.11 | rik | well |
| 16:18.16 | rik | i'm usinhg an N800 |
| 16:18.18 | rik | not a 770 |
| 16:18.20 | zoran | but I used that way to connect and do what I want |
| 16:18.23 | rik | and ssh has nothing to do with this |
| 16:18.30 | rik | also, there's no connectivity when you're in the data center |
| 16:18.32 | zoran | hm? |
| 16:18.35 | rik | that's why i want this on hte N800 |
| 16:18.46 | zoran | what is a diff? |
| 16:19.00 | zoran | if u use wifi... |
| 16:19.09 | zoran | u connect to router |
| 16:19.14 | zoran | get your ip |
| 16:19.17 | rik | there is no wifi |
| 16:19.19 | zoran | go out to the wild |
| 16:19.19 | rik | there is no router. |
| 16:19.24 | zoran | connect to the server |
| 16:19.27 | zoran | ah! |
| 16:19.32 | zoran | got it |
| 16:19.43 | zoran | how could u go to the net? |
| 16:19.53 | rik | i can't. |
| 16:20.04 | zoran | so, no nokia? |
| 16:20.39 | rik | oh. i have the N800 here, but when i'm in the data center, it won't have internet access. |
| 16:20.49 | zoran | rik, why? |
| 16:20.57 | zoran | no wifi ap? |
| 16:21.00 | rik | because there's no internet access int he data centers. |
| 16:21.05 | rik | no wifi. |
| 16:21.08 | zoran | :) |
| 16:21.10 | rik | it's a secure environment. |
| 16:21.21 | zoran | go out of the room |
| 16:21.31 | rik | doesn't help. |
| 16:21.35 | zoran | do you have ip address in a public |
| 16:21.37 | rik | the *building* doesn't have it. |
| 16:21.42 | rik | no. |
| 16:21.45 | rik | there is no connectivity. |
| 16:21.50 | rik | stop talking about using the internet. |
| 16:21.51 | zoran | not at all? |
| 16:21.58 | rik | no. not. at. all. |
| 16:21.59 | zoran | k |
| 16:22.21 | czr | you can install it on the N800 now |
| 16:22.21 | zoran | me too, please |
| 16:22.52 | czr | seriously though, you could run tcp/ip over bt, assuming you'd have at least some server in the room that would act as an gateway |
| 16:23.04 | czr | at least technically, didn't have time to look into it properly though. |
| 16:23.10 | koen | it's czr! |
| 16:23.18 | czr | hi koen :-). indeed it is |
| 16:23.22 | rik | nope. |
| 16:23.25 | rik | there is nothing |
| 16:23.28 | rik | deliberately. |
| 16:23.31 | czr | every time I try to get away, they pull me back in! |
| 16:24.03 | zoran | stay with us, would you? |
| 16:24.17 | czr | zoran, my plan to escape failed. I'll try harder next time. |
| 16:24.28 | czr | koen, still working with maemo I see? |
| 16:24.43 | zoran | u want to say that you like chicks better then our talks? |
| 16:24.59 | czr | I have nothing against chickens |
| 16:25.25 | zoran | one shows 770 to the chick and chick goes crazy |
| 16:26.07 | zoran | and say "I nefer saw shaver like this" |
| 16:27.34 | zoran | folks, what will be with that wimax story on the next device? |
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| 16:29.56 | czr | feels like I never left. |
| 16:31.54 | czr | anyone running chinook sdk? |
| 16:32.05 | czr | (just to confirm one thing) |
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| 16:38.02 | koen | czr: yeah |
| 16:38.17 | czr | koen, to which question? :-) |
| 16:38.51 | czr | hmm. for some reason after doing af-sb-init.sh stop, I can't switch sb targets. complains about 'sb-conf: You must close your other Scratchbox sessions first" |
| 16:38.53 | Mikho | does anybody know where I could get a ftdi-sio driver for the 770? |
| 16:39.24 | Mikho | I have the ftdi-sio driver sources, but I need various kernel files for compiling |
| 16:40.45 | Mikho | at the moment I'm trying to find the .config file that's supposed to be found from /lib/modules/<kernelversion>/build/ |
| 16:40.46 | _Monkey | Hmm. No matches for that, Mikho. |
| 16:41.08 | koen | czr: that I'm still doing stuff with maemo :) |
| 16:41.17 | Mikho | unfortunately the /lib/modules directory is empty inside my scratchbox |
| 16:41.37 | czr | koen, ah, cool. nice to see "old" faces. was worried that the whole channel had degenerated to single letter words like 'u', 'r' and 'y'. :-) |
| 16:41.52 | koen | :) |
| 16:42.09 | koen | I got most hildon stuff to build against a stock gtk+ today |
| 16:42.24 | koen | abusing some ubuntu-mobile patches |
| 16:42.28 | czr | ah |
| 16:42.39 | czr | so sw using hildon building against ume? |
| 16:43.00 | koen | I had to copy headers containing the private api to the include dir though |
| 16:43.06 | koen | so got still killed a kitten |
| 16:43.30 | koen | no, ubunty-mobile has some patches sanitizing the maemo stuff :) |
| 16:43.32 | czr | well, private api here or there, who cares :-) |
| 16:43.45 | czr | cool |
| 16:43.56 | czr | I've been totally out of the whole mobile-gui stuff for a year or two |
| 16:44.04 | czr | working on high-perf i/o-stuff |
| 16:45.09 | pupnik | radio959.com great interview right now |
| 16:45.49 | czr | meh. what's up with sb not allowing me to switch targets. |
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| 16:47.16 | czr | figures, had another session open to sb over the network |
| 16:49.48 | Mikho | Hmm... I just need the configuration file that's used in vanilla 770 kernels |
| 16:52.39 | czr | is there a term package for 4.0 anywhere? |
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| 17:09.35 | t_s_o | hrmf, looks like i got hit with wsod :( |
| 17:15.30 | alabama | hi all. Problem here: trying to ssh -X from ubuntu (client) to 770 (server). Both using openssh. The app I pass as a parameter is a python one. If I try it directly on Ubuntu or on 770, it just works. When I try to run it through ssh using 770 as server, it gives me an error in the import gtk line. Same with another app I've tried. What could I try? |
| 17:16.21 | alabama | PS: if I do the contrary, that is Ubuntu server and 770 client, the app works and I can use it from the 770. |
| 17:17.01 | alabama | the error is: "global name '__gtk' is not defined" |
| 17:17.04 | luck^ | alabama, maybe you need to use run-standalone.sh before python program.py |
| 17:17.15 | alabama | i'm trying... |
| 17:18.14 | alabama | just a moment... |
| 17:18.18 | luck^ | alabama, ok |
| 17:19.22 | alabama | mm thanks luck, it's better now... but: |
| 17:19.40 | alabama | the app runs on the 770: this is not what i want. |
| 17:19.56 | alabama | I'd like to see the app on Ubunutu (client) |
| 17:21.24 | luck^ | alabama.. hmmmm |
| 17:21.28 | alabama | why the behaviour is different if I do the reverse? in the other case I can use from 770 the app running on Ubuntu, with the same command line (apart from the run-standalone.sh thing) |
| 17:22.46 | alabama | ohps, damn I must go. luck are there any quick clues you're pondering on? |
| 17:22.52 | luck^ | alabama, this script does all the initialization of variables inside scratchbox/770/n800 |
| 17:23.12 | alabama | luck^: (waiting) |
| 17:23.57 | luck^ | alabama, you're running your application directly inside ubuntu? |
| 17:24.11 | alabama | inside ubuntu the app works |
| 17:24.19 | alabama | but i want it running in 770 |
| 17:24.24 | alabama | but seeing it in ubuntu |
| 17:24.26 | alabama | :) |
| 17:24.30 | luck^ | :) |
| 17:25.22 | alabama | luck^, which script where you talking about? run-standalone.sh? |
| 17:25.39 | luck^ | alabama, yes |
| 17:25.46 | alabama | ok... sorry I must really go |
| 17:26.00 | alabama | let's see in another round. Bye, thanks very much |
| 17:26.11 | luck^ | alabama, ok! see you |
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| 17:57.56 | satd | i got hamachi running my N770 |
| 17:58.03 | satd | now i don't know how to use it |
| 17:58.13 | czr | satd, but at least you have it |
| 17:58.20 | czr | it's more than half of the victory, you know. |
| 17:58.23 | satd | yea.. |
| 17:58.37 | gla55_ | it's like getting a girl to your apartment and stopping there |
| 17:58.53 | satd | hahaha |
| 17:59.25 | czr | gla55_, or going to a bar and knowing that you could order beer at any point, but not bothering to do so? |
| 17:59.33 | czr | it is.. a powerful feeling.. |
| 17:59.47 | ||cw | an open bar even, with free beer |
| 18:00.00 | czr | oh yes. very very powerful. |
| 18:00.20 | pupnik | the dosbox guys are so helpful |
| 18:00.28 | gla55_ | czr: no. more like going to a bar and not knowing what to do there |
| 18:00.36 | satd | what is the command in ssh to rename folders |
| 18:00.45 | gla55_ | bothering is no the right word |
| 18:00.45 | czr | gla55_, who told you that! I'm not always like that.. |
| 18:00.49 | gla55_ | it implies choice |
| 18:00.52 | pupnik | mv name1 nam2 |
| 18:01.04 | satd | also i can see the root in my file manager but can't see the foldering i created using ssh |
| 18:01.21 | satd | and also can't copy or move files to my root using file manager |
| 18:01.26 | satd | any way around this? |
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| 18:04.47 | pupnik | use midnight commander or some other file manager |
| 18:04.52 | pupnik | or the command line |
| 18:05.20 | pupnik | but you should be sure of your actions when changing things in the rest of the system |
| 18:05.40 | satd | how do i make user have root permission? |
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| 18:09.33 | satd | is there way to create bat file in n770 |
| 18:09.35 | pupnik | sudo gainroot |
| 18:09.45 | pupnik | yeah look up shell programming |
| 18:09.56 | satd | when i run it will run bunch of commands |
| 18:10.08 | pupnik | any command you type you can put in a text file |
| 18:10.17 | pupnik | then execute that file |
| 18:10.20 | satd | how |
| 18:10.23 | pupnik | with "sh filename" |
| 18:10.27 | satd | ohh |
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| 18:10.40 | satd | but thats in xterm rite |
| 18:10.59 | satd | can't run that file from the gui |
| 18:11.11 | pupnik | you can |
| 18:11.24 | pupnik | but you need the load-applet-run or osso-screenshot applet to run them |
| 18:11.27 | pupnik | load-applet-run? |
| 18:11.28 | _Monkey | i think load-applet-run is John Costigan's awesome toolbar applet to monitor cpu and launch programs: http://gnuite.com:8080/nokia770/ |
| 18:13.25 | pupnik | it would really help to spend some time with a linux 101 type course or book - before mucking too much with the nokia |
| 18:13.45 | czr | bricking in the ultimate teacher! |
| 18:14.40 | satd | if u brick it.. |
| 18:14.48 | satd | no way to bring it back? |
| 18:14.57 | satd | even by flashing? |
| 18:15.02 | pupnik | flasher? |
| 18:15.02 | _Monkey | i guess flasher is available from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com |
| 18:15.44 | satd | so it can be fixed? |
| 18:15.51 | pupnik | yes |
| 18:17.25 | satd | any1 here has hamachi on their n770? |
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| 18:21.08 | Mikho | sorry about swearing but... |
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| 18:22.31 | Mikho | I DAMN to HELL everything about linux drivers. Impossible to install a simple ftdi-sio driver to get a gadget connected to my 770 usb port |
| 18:23.17 | zuh | Mikho: You mean alternative OSes would have better ones? Like WinCE? |
| 18:23.18 | Mikho | for that I need kernel sources, configuration scripts and black magic to get something to work |
| 18:25.14 | Mikho | Instructions say run make and then insmod. Except that make spews out thousands and thousands of error messages that have little to do with the actual problem |
| 18:25.53 | Mikho | </complaint> |
| 18:26.36 | czr | Mikho, you could always write your own os |
| 18:27.12 | Mikho | I just want to plug in something to an usb port and be done with it |
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| 18:28.43 | t_s_o | i think thats the worst that apple and microsoft have done to the computer user community. made them think that computers are dead easy to use... |
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| 18:38.38 | jumpula | apple is usually elegant and there's logic behind everything |
| 18:38.55 | jumpula | i can't honestly say same about microsoft |
| 18:42.41 | Mikho | actually there's lot of things in microsoft OSes that work |
| 18:43.13 | Mikho | also, my ubuntu desktop installation recognized the usb memory stick I inserted into the port, which is nice |
| 18:48.14 | Mikho | hmm... maybe it's an issue with just this one driver I'm trying to compile |
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| 19:16.24 | Mikho | whoa... scratchbox complains about missing host-gcc pakage with error message: "Too many open files" |
| 19:17.21 | Mikho | in programming, misleading error messages are most perilous |
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| 20:14.35 | Tb0n3r | for some reason when I try to install things on my 770 for some of the things it says it doesn't have the libglade package that much is dependent on |
| 20:14.38 | Tb0n3r | wtfux? |
| 20:14.45 | Tb0n3r | are these n800 items? |
| 20:15.57 | pupnik | no |
| 20:16.09 | Tb0n3r | but it doesn't seem to be in the list |
| 20:16.17 | Tb0n3r | wish it automatically resolved dependencies |
| 20:16.27 | pupnik | yeah sounds like someone goofed |
| 20:16.39 | Tb0n3r | hmm? |
| 20:16.42 | Tb0n3r | who goofed? |
| 20:16.48 | Tb0n3r | there's a lot of them |
| 20:16.53 | pupnik | the person who packaged the program |
| 20:17.04 | pupnik | you can find libglade here |
| 20:17.08 | pupnik | repositories? |
| 20:17.09 | _Monkey | repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php |
| 20:17.14 | Tb0n3r | :) |
| 20:18.36 | pupnik | it does seem to be in my 770 repos |
| 20:18.40 | pupnik | libglade2-0 |
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| 20:23.33 | Nermal | :) |
| 20:23.39 | satd | all of sudden my n770 is slow |
| 20:23.44 | satd | uninstalling.. |
| 20:23.46 | satd | installing.. |
| 20:23.58 | satd | even loading application manager takes forever.. |
| 20:24.05 | satd | what could of caused it? |
| 20:27.58 | Tb0n3r | oh man, lots of repos |
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| 20:29.10 | pupnik | yeah the world will be complete when each tablet owner has his/her own repo |
| 20:29.10 | Tb0n3r | wish I could figure out how the 770 knew that the jacket was on backwards for standby |
| 20:29.20 | Tb0n3r | lol |
| 20:29.29 | pupnik | it's a magnetic switch |
| 20:29.47 | Tb0n3r | I thought it might have been |
| 20:29.56 | flip^ | does the 770 have the same problem with that media crawler as the n800 for cpu time... |
| 20:30.44 | Tb0n3r | anything I just HAVE to get for my internet table |
| 20:31.01 | flip^ | claws-mail... |
| 20:31.02 | _Monkey | claws-mail is good. |
| 20:31.09 | Tb0n3r | hmm |
| 20:31.21 | Tb0n3r | just a pop client? |
| 20:31.25 | flip^ | or imap |
| 20:31.40 | flip^ | but it actually works well, rather than the rubbish that ships with the device |
| 20:31.57 | Tb0n3r | right |
| 20:32.03 | Tb0n3r | I couldn't get that working with gmail |
| 20:32.43 | flip^ | can't say i've tried a gmail account |
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| 20:33.04 | flip^ | Xournal is pretty nifty |
| 20:34.10 | Tb0n3r | didn't show up in the repos I've selected so far |
| 20:34.14 | Tb0n3r | or does search suck |
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| 20:35.13 | Tb0n3r | oh, nvm, refreshing package list |
| 20:35.46 | Tb0n3r | kinda weird though how the screen is sparkly |
| 20:35.55 | Tb0n3r | on black |
| 20:35.58 | Tb0n3r | at a slight angle |
| 20:36.26 | Tb0n3r | is that just the touch screen? |
| 20:36.46 | pupnik | i think that's the touch screen |
| 20:36.56 | Tb0n3r | matrices |
| 20:37.17 | pupnik | i can see them in macro snapshots with my camera |
| 20:38.23 | Tb0n3r | lol microscope |
| 20:39.05 | pupnik | my scopes are packed in crates |
| 20:39.59 | Tb0n3r | :( my repo update is stuck at 6kb |
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| 20:46.39 | Tb0n3r | any easier way to move repositories into the system without having to type them all in? |
| 20:47.01 | Tb0n3r | ah, apt |
| 20:48.22 | pupnik | yes, you can click on .install links |
| 20:48.25 | pupnik | these will add repos |
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| 20:54.51 | Mikho | mikä ihmeen viinakortti? |
| 20:55.10 | Mikho | sorry, wrong channel |
| 20:56.13 | Tb0n3r | ... |
| 20:56.16 | erstazi | Mikho: you can still talk in any language you desire (: |
| 20:56.18 | Tb0n3r | forgot, no root |
| 20:57.03 | Tb0n3r | what's the root password on these things? |
| 20:57.37 | Mikho | oh, ok. Anyway, it was a response to this http://www.alko.fi/ |
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| 20:57.47 | Mikho | it has absolutely nothing to do with maemo |
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| 21:03.16 | Tb0n3r | root password |
| 21:03.17 | Tb0n3r | :( |
| 21:03.25 | b0unc3 | Tb0n3r: rootme |
| 21:03.25 | _Monkey | rootme is the default pw? |
| 21:03.29 | Tb0n3r | ah |
| 21:04.10 | Tb0n3r | sorry, try again |
| 21:04.37 | satd | my n770 is slow all of sudden |
| 21:05.01 | satd | i think needs a good throw against the wall... |
| 21:08.02 | Tb0n3r | rootme isn't the root password |
| 21:09.10 | Mikho | did you try "ssh root@localhost"? That's the only way I could make it accept the root password |
| 21:10.38 | Tb0n3r | cause that gets you to bash |
| 21:10.45 | Tb0n3r | instead of sh |
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| 21:13.13 | satd | know any good process killer for n770? |
| 21:15.50 | flip^ | if you are confident with the command line, become root and use kill - as long as you know what you're killing |
| 21:19.19 | Tb0n3r | ... now when I try to install openssh server it says "Not found?" |
| 21:19.25 | Tb0n3r | T_T |
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| 21:22.50 | Mikho | it doesn't find openssh? |
| 21:25.31 | Tb0n3r | apparently it was the kernelconcepts that wouldn't work |
| 21:26.43 | Tb0n3r | nvm, it's messing up, not updating |
| 21:27.28 | Tb0n3r | and not kernelconcepts, but the non-certified nokia repo |
| 21:27.30 | Tb0n3r | ... |
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| 21:30.04 | Tb0n3r | now I'm letting it refresh every time I add a repo so I don't have to break it down again |
| 21:31.24 | Tb0n3r | crap, shoulda just disabled them instead of deleting them |
| 21:31.26 | Tb0n3r | oh well |
| 21:33.09 | Tb0n3r | and it appears oakcourt isn't working |
| 21:35.08 | Tb0n3r | guess I wouldn't trust a dyndns domain anyhow |
| 21:43.02 | Tb0n3r | took a while, but I've got me repositories |
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| 21:53.03 | satd | installed hamachi |
| 21:53.09 | satd | and conneted to the network |
| 21:53.36 | satd | but the n770 media play won't see the media server |
| 21:56.42 | Tb0n3r | hmm, openssh server/client .install file still says "Not found?" |
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| 22:02.41 | sp3000 | heh chinhook |
| 22:02.49 | sp3000 | "ouch" |
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| 22:06.16 | Blacksitox | http://www.pdastreet.com/articles/2004/10/2004-10-13-Review-palmOne-s.html <- compatible for n800 ? |
| 22:08.05 | gla55_ | " or any other infrared-enabled Palm or PDA or smartphone, for that matter)," |
| 22:08.08 | gla55_ | i would say no |
| 22:12.00 | Tb0n3r | n800 has iR? |
| 22:12.51 | flip^ | I think the lack of ir is why its a no ;) |
| 22:13.32 | Tb0n3r | lulz |
| 22:13.39 | Tb0n3r | I <3 apt-get |
| 22:13.43 | Tb0n3r | well, aptitude |
| 22:13.43 | _Monkey | aptitude is probably the alternative |
| 22:14.15 | Tb0n3r | either that was really quick typing or I don't know wtf you're talkin about |
| 22:14.42 | flip^ | _Monkey is kinda automatic :) |
| 22:17.43 | satd | spend 3 days to get hamachi on n770 |
| 22:17.51 | satd | now i have no use for it.... |
| 22:18.57 | Tb0n3r | ok, much much better |
| 22:18.59 | Tb0n3r | <3 root |
| 22:19.20 | Tb0n3r | instead of graphical interfaces fuxing I can see wtf is going on and cancel/fix it |
| 22:19.41 | Tb0n3r | T_T if only there were cli web browsers that showed pictures |
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