| 00:00.27 | unique311 | hmmm |
| 00:01.13 | unique311 | so my motorola h500 headset is not working because its a phone earpeace. |
| 00:01.22 | unique311 | and not a music bluetooth headset. |
| 00:02.17 | unique311 | question off topic, why did they get rid of pluto? |
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| 00:04.28 | DigExorcist | the planet? |
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| 00:05.05 | unique311 | yes |
| 00:06.37 | pupnik | there were a couple of reasons. Main one is they decided it wasn't formed during the solar system's accretion phase |
| 00:06.51 | pupnik | it appears to be a captured planetoid based on offset from the solar axis |
| 00:07.29 | pupnik | Back in 1978 i did a presentation on theories of solar evolution :) |
| 00:07.59 | unique311 | cool |
| 00:08.28 | unique311 | watching a show on this right now. |
| 00:08.32 | unique311 | on the science channel |
| 00:09.17 | DigExorcist | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto |
| 00:09.31 | DigExorcist | it was in 2006 when the mess started |
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| 00:11.49 | unique311 | feel kinda bad for pluto, been a part of the books for a long time, to be taken out in the revisions out now. |
| 00:12.18 | unique311 | pupnik, captured planetoid? |
| 00:13.04 | pupnik | ah i was wrong on the ICU decision |
| 00:14.58 | unique311 | a planet that just wondered in our solar system. |
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| 00:15.11 | pupnik | yeah that was a theory at one ponit |
| 00:15.27 | pupnik | i don't know what the current explanation is |
| 00:15.45 | unique311 | size... |
| 00:16.27 | unique311 | smaller than out moon, takes you off the planet list. |
| 00:16.37 | unique311 | but its still early in the show. |
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| 00:30.47 | Troseph_ | has anyone gotten a different distro to run on the 770? I want to try pokylinux or DSL... But I don't know if I'll hose my system. |
| 00:33.06 | unique311 | Update: smaller than the united states, and you loose your planet status. |
| 00:48.59 | Deformati | Omg. |
| 00:49.04 | Deformati | Crazy awesome. |
| 00:49.10 | Deformati | The hub hack worked. |
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| 00:51.41 | Troseph_ | No way? Can you use a thumb drive with it? |
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| 00:54.57 | Deformati | Yes. |
| 00:55.01 | Deformati | And keyboard. |
| 00:55.02 | _Monkey | i guess keyboard is important to have |
| 01:16.07 | saaib | how can I rebuild the dependecy database? It failed while trying to install openssh and now I can't update the list of packages |
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| 01:28.39 | [31d1] | wow i have such a sense of accomplishment for figuring out how to run an almost entirely useless script on wlan up on my nokia |
| 01:29.17 | Deformati | :P |
| 01:30.14 | [31d1] | now it will always have its own domain name despite not having a server and almost never being outside a firewall |
| 01:31.29 | killfill | what upnp player does there exist for gnome?.. |
| 01:32.59 | pupnik | i think there is one for maemo in dev |
| 01:33.59 | pupnik | http://mmpc.garage.maemo.org/ oh this isn't the same - but it's also interesting - control pc music playback from tablet |
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| 01:34.31 | pupnik | he is looking for help on the project - it looks quite promising imo |
| 01:35.40 | pupnik | with power-line IP, it is time to rethink home-stereo |
| 01:42.53 | unique311 | nice find.... |
| 01:43.05 | unique311 | check this out on you device.. http://numbera.com/musictheory/flash/keyboard5.swf |
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| 02:04.37 | pupnik | 4 freakin hours i been mucking about with this game and it still no run |
| 02:04.37 | pupnik | STAB STAB STAB |
| 02:05.18 | pupnik | not even seeing my debug msg... w..t..f.. |
| 02:05.52 | unique311 | what game? |
| 02:06.01 | pupnik | Worms Of Prey |
| 02:06.13 | [31d1] | oh, nice swf |
| 02:11.34 | unique311 | runs nicely on the n800 [31d1] |
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| 02:18.22 | Navi_ | O_o |
| 02:20.18 | Deformati | But I need gdc. |
| 02:20.19 | Deformati | :( |
| 02:20.24 | bmidgley | hmm I can't build maemo-mapper using the new beta sdk |
| 02:20.40 | bmidgley | configure says liboosohelp and osso-ic were not found |
| 02:20.52 | bmidgley | libossohelp that is |
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| 02:46.45 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:51.30 | pupnik | open("data/images/gui/bg.png", O_RDONLY) = 14 |
| 02:51.31 | pupnik | fstat64(14, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=140737488355328, ...}) = 0 |
| 02:51.33 | pupnik | ahhaha |
| 02:52.57 | pupnik | hmm |
| 02:53.23 | pupnik | how is it that i can chmod files on the 770's vfat? |
| 02:57.36 | unique311 | pupnik ever heard of touchmegames for linux? |
| 02:58.02 | pupnik | nope |
| 02:58.32 | unique311 | a collection of touch screen games for linux. |
| 02:58.46 | unique311 | works for maemo. |
| 02:59.10 | unique311 | but screen resolution is screwed, becuase its viewed in windowed mode. |
| 02:59.21 | unique311 | and some of the screen is MIA |
| 02:59.49 | unique311 | fullscreen it would be a nice hit for the maemo platform. |
| 03:01.09 | pupnik | excellent find |
| 03:01.43 | unique311 | wonder if it can be submitted to those indt guys.. |
| 03:02.40 | unique311 | they handle gaming for the devices? |
| 03:04.11 | pupnik | duno |
| 03:05.00 | unique311 | http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=152865 |
| 03:05.06 | unique311 | screenies |
| 03:07.02 | pupnik | playing ... |
| 03:07.53 | unique311 | you are quick on the compile. |
| 03:08.17 | pupnik | this is really nicely done |
| 03:09.08 | unique311 | only flaw is that it will not automatically do fullscreen...well on maemo that is.. |
| 03:21.40 | pupnik | just needs hildon wrapper afaict |
| 03:22.13 | pupnik | i haven't done that yet |
| 03:22.31 | pupnik | lots of ppl here could do it in their sleep though |
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| 03:56.59 | pupnik | wow |
| 03:57.05 | pupnik | unique311: still there? |
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| 04:14.29 | pupnik | unique311: this main.cpp creates the hildon window and initially sets it to fullscreen, but something is setting it back to windowed mode. http://pastebin.ca/702858 |
| 04:16.08 | pupnik | you'll need to add "-lhildonwidgets" to the link flags in the Makefile |
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| 04:53.12 | Dawnmist | Does anyone know if there are plans to add the en_AU locale to those available in the N800, now that Nokia are selling these in Australia? |
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| 05:10.22 | pupnik | MWAAAHAHAHAHA |
| 05:12.17 | rwhitby | Dawnmist: I hope so - I had to add the Adelaide timezone to the clock manually. |
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| 05:31.06 | pupnik | unique311: looks like a bunch of these games are hardcoded for 800x600 - will take some time to adjust them to 800x480 - but fs is working now - :)) http://pupnik.de/touchmegames_770.jpg |
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| 05:33.05 | pupnik | if anyone who knows hildon wants to do this, please leave me a message |
| 05:39.51 | pupnik | http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/2.11/GtkWindow.html <-- nice overview of teh window funxtins |
| 05:40.26 | pupnik | gtkwindow is documented at http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/2.11/GtkWindow.html |
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| 05:45.40 | `0660 | oh shit. they have started selling n800 in australia |
| 05:45.58 | `0660 | i thought i would be the first one to have it there when i move the in next month :P |
| 05:46.05 | `0660 | there |
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| 05:53.11 | Dawnmist | yeah, they have started - although their website still says 'coming soon'. |
| 05:54.16 | Dawnmist | I'm finding it frustrating with either having the date wrong (US's MM/DD/YYYY) or the keyboard/currency wrong (GB pounds & symbols) |
| 05:54.45 | Dawnmist | And of course the 12 hour clock - but that'll probably not be fixed by using the en_AU locale |
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| 05:58.14 | `0660 | you should try fi_FI locale. it has a 24 hour clock ;) |
| 05:58.51 | `0660 | hmm |
| 05:59.25 | `0660 | i'm pretty sure you should be able to tweak it to work the way you want |
| 06:00.39 | `0660 | just keep the Device language as british and try finding a regional setting close to australia |
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| 06:08.34 | Dawnmist | Does fi_FI use '$' signs and '.' as decimal separators? |
| 06:14.38 | Lynoure | Dawnmist: are you asking seriously? |
| 06:14.52 | Lynoure | Dawnmist: we use $VARIABLES :) |
| 06:15.02 | Lynoure | Dawnmist: but the currency is € |
| 06:15.21 | Dawnmist | I am - since I'm at work, and can't test it - and the device doesn't have the en_AU locale. |
| 06:15.35 | Lynoure | Dawnmist: I get confused about the separators myself. |
| 06:16.03 | Dawnmist | And unfortunately, neither the en_GB or the en_US actually match our stuff properly - we've got a mishmash in between them. |
| 06:16.15 | Lynoure | Dawnmist: it seems my bank uses , and , is what is on the numpad |
| 06:17.06 | Dawnmist | We use $ and '.', with DD/MM/YYYY dates and GB spelling (at least mainly GB spelling) and are completely metric. |
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| 06:18.20 | Dawnmist | So if I use the US keyboard and $/'.', I get horrible dates and spelling - and I'd assume non-metric measurements. If I use the GB, I get pounds and funny keys on my keyboard :( |
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| 06:19.54 | Dawnmist | And the en_AU locale hasn't been included on the device, even though they're starting to officially sell it in Australia. |
| 06:21.59 | `0660 | you should file a bug about it in their bugzilla |
| 06:22.16 | `0660 | that would be an easy way to make sure it will be in the next release |
| 06:23.06 | Dawnmist | Ok :) |
| 06:23.44 | `0660 | which i think will be out before the end of this year |
| 06:25.17 | `0660 | to stop rumours from spreading my estimate is not based on any inside knowledge :) |
| 06:32.22 | pupnik | hmm do not try to compile debhelper 5 without a backup scratchbox |
| 06:32.27 | pupnik | compile/install |
| 06:32.56 | pupnik | what's different about en_AU to en_GB or whatever? |
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| 06:45.44 | Dawnmist | pupnik: For GB - Keyboard, currency, some language/spelling differences |
| 06:46.36 | Dawnmist | pupnik: For US - Date display, more spelling differences, metric units (i.e. A4 not letter) |
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| 07:13.52 | Luria | is there some sorta id3 editor on the n800? |
| 07:14.19 | Luria | just quick and dirty edit; dont need to do mass tagging |
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| 07:33.28 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 07:38.00 | Jaffa | Dawnmist: see bug |
| 07:38.03 | Jaffa | Dawnmist: see bug #303 |
| 07:38.04 | _Monkey | Bug 303 might be found at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303 |
| 07:53.47 | Dawnmist | I've looked at bug 303, and realise it's related - but it also doesn't change the fact that Nokia *should* include the locale of a country that it's selling in, rather than making every customer in that country have to rebuild their package to include it, since they've excluded the POSIX locale completely for Australia. |
| 07:53.48 | _Monkey | Bug 303 might be found at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303 |
| 07:54.35 | Dawnmist | I found it earlier today - and will give it a go this evening, but I have to create the build environment, etc first. |
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| 07:56.43 | Dawnmist | Tried apt-get installing 'locales' last night - but while I can see en_AU in /usr/share/locales, I still couldn't select it, so I'm not sure where they're shoving the 'approved' ones. And since I only got the N800 yesterday lunchtime, I'm still working my way through this setup stuff *smiles* |
| 07:59.18 | Dawnmist | But I thought it worth seeing if there was any intention now that they are selling it in Australia to include the Australian localisation info, since it'd save me work both now and with future updates :) |
| 07:59.54 | rwhitby | Dawnmist: where did you buy it from, and how much? (I had to get mine at Heathrow last time I was travelling on business) |
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| 08:00.32 | Dawnmist | $599, at Organiser World in Melbourne (1 block from where I work, so was convenient). |
| 08:01.38 | Dawnmist | http://www.ow.com.au/shop/Nokia/Nokia-N800-Internet-Tablet |
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| 10:53.38 | Air-away | hello, might I ask a retarded question about the Nokia N800? |
| 10:54.07 | Airw0lf | downloaded applications get installed where? to the "internal" memory card slot? |
| 10:54.12 | Airw0lf | or is there a choice? |
| 10:55.24 | cosmo | internal flash |
| 10:55.25 | _Monkey | i heard internal flash was generally not "readonly" |
| 10:55.43 | Airw0lf | internal flash is only 128 mb? |
| 10:56.36 | Airw0lf | doesn't that limit how many apps you can install? |
| 10:56.41 | cosmo | 770 has 64mb and it's never run out on my device |
| 10:57.02 | Airw0lf | wow, ok |
| 10:57.31 | Airw0lf | so i guess that means i don't need to buy a sd card specifically to store apps |
| 10:57.49 | Airw0lf | since you can only install to flash |
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| 11:01.44 | pupnikafk | MWHAR!!!1 |
| 11:01.47 | pupnikafk | oneone |
| 11:01.56 | pupnikafk | got sega genesis emu running |
| 11:03.50 | inz | without hacks you won't actually be able to run programs from mmc/sd cards, as they're mounted noexec |
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| 11:08.40 | Airw0lf | even the programs installed from maemo.org? |
| 11:09.05 | jani | yes |
| 11:09.22 | Airw0lf | but if you install to flash, you're fine...sounds sensible |
| 11:16.19 | cosmo | i think you could format a mmc as ext2, mount it and do links so that apps are installed on it |
| 11:16.49 | Airw0lf | ok, but i take it most people don't need to worry about resorting to that |
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| 11:22.06 | OuiD | but the noexec would still forbid you! |
| 11:22.55 | Big_B | good morning (~ugt) |
| 11:22.56 | Airw0lf | that's fine...i'll just go with the flow and not try to get ahead of myself :) |
| 11:23.16 | Big_B | Hi lardman are you here!! |
| 11:23.49 | Airw0lf | i have to go to sleep now, but thanks all for your help |
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| 11:35.13 | alterego | I boot the whole system off of SD/MMC |
| 11:35.27 | alterego | I have a 1GB ext2 partition for the rootfs and applications. |
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| 11:52.32 | OuiD | has anybody managed to do x11forwarding with dropbear? I constantly get X auth refused even withXomap -ac. drives me nuts! |
| 11:56.26 | Knirch | OuiD: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=75658 seems to have a lot of discussion on the subject, not sure there's a solution in there though |
| 12:00.34 | OuiD | Knirch: thanx I'm user 'free' on this forum :) |
| 12:01.37 | cosmo | oh, i just noticed bluetooth file transfers work really on ubuntu+n800 |
| 12:02.09 | cosmo | you can send files both ways easily |
| 12:02.22 | Knirch | OuiD: then I guess you know of that thread ;) |
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| 12:06.55 | OuiD | Knirch: yeah I'm waiting for your contribution ;) |
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| 12:10.42 | Knirch | OuiD: :) My 770 is misplaced at the moment and I don't have a personal interest in using forwarding, so my contribution will most likely take a while :D |
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| 14:34.59 | alterego | Hmm .. |
| 14:43.54 | alterego | Is it possible to get the hildon version at runtime? |
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| 16:00.21 | pupnik | why do i have to add user/ to the "Section" of all debs? |
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| 16:07.11 | pupnik | pardon me, i broked seomthing |
| 16:07.13 | pupnik | ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libpthread.so is too small, not checked. |
| 16:07.13 | pupnik | ldconfig: File /usr/lib/libc.so is too small, not checked. |
| 16:07.21 | pupnik | what the fix? |
| 16:07.45 | sp3000 | my libs are bigger than your libs |
| 16:07.51 | sp3000 | useful sp3000 is useful |
| 16:10.58 | pupnik | this is part of libc6 |
| 16:10.59 | pupnik | ? |
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| 16:12.57 | pupnik | dpkg -L libc6 |grep thread ayh |
| 16:13.18 | pupnik | fixed et, me maytees |
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| 16:15.54 | pupnik | ~nobody knoes, the dependencies i've seen~ |
| 16:16.03 | pupnik | ~nobody knoes, bat jeeebus~ |
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| 17:04.50 | Andy80 | hi |
| 17:05.03 | pupnik | good morning Andy80 |
| 17:06.38 | pupnik | ~UCT |
| 17:06.45 | b0unc3 | ciao Andy80 ;) |
| 17:07.14 | Andy80 | is b0unc3 a bot? |
| 17:07.32 | b0unc3 | no... |
| 17:07.45 | Andy80 | sorry :P |
| 17:07.51 | Andy80 | b0unc3: .it ? |
| 17:08.11 | pupnik | ~nobody knoes, the dependencies i've seen~ |
| 17:08.21 | b0unc3 | Andy80: yes |
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| 17:18.10 | pupnik | libflac and friends built |
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| 17:33.32 | pupnik | libvorbisidec1_1.0.2+svn12153-1_armel.deb and -dev built |
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| 17:38.25 | pupnik | bleh building tetex-base is not fun |
| 17:39.35 | pupnik | repositories? |
| 17:39.36 | _Monkey | repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php |
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| 17:49.29 | pupnik | gs and gs-gpl built |
| 17:52.20 | pupnik | gs-common built |
| 17:57.03 | pupnik | speex and libspeex built |
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| 17:59.28 | killfill | what do you guys use as mediaserver?.. |
| 17:59.30 | killfill | (what software) |
| 17:59.46 | Troseph_ | I use apache2 on my main server. |
| 17:59.53 | Troseph_ | and vlc on my work machine |
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| 18:00.18 | killfill | oh.. well i mean for upnp or daap |
| 18:00.42 | ||cw | are there a lot of options? |
| 18:02.14 | killfill | dont know.. ive try three that doesn work. and on windows cannot make one work.. :P |
| 18:02.27 | killfill | TVersity |
| 18:02.40 | killfill | mayeb its not a mediaserver really.. :P |
| 18:03.04 | TPC | can't you just nfs mount your desktop computer |
| 18:03.13 | TPC | and access files over that |
| 18:04.52 | TPC | yeah, that would have been nice |
| 18:05.02 | TPC | I haven't had mine for long, so far I've mostly scp:ed over media I wanted to play |
| 18:05.20 | suihkulokki | yeah, that's the reason people buy iphones and not n800's - missing nfs support |
| 18:06.41 | erstazi | killfill: I use slimserver |
| 18:06.49 | erstazi | killfill: its very efficient |
| 18:07.21 | erstazi | on a side note, I find NFS to be very dreadful, even though I have 2 PC's with XPP, I just find EXT3 or ReiserFS to be more efficient |
| 18:07.26 | erstazi | and I don't need to defrag |
| 18:07.52 | TPC | erstazi, how can you compare NFS with EXT3 and ReiserFS? |
| 18:08.01 | TPC | one is a filesystem, the other is a network protocol |
| 18:08.05 | killfill | nfs.. not ntfs.. :) |
| 18:08.13 | erstazi | ahaha |
| 18:08.14 | erstazi | ok |
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| 18:09.36 | TPC | its kind of like network shares in windows, except good |
| 18:09.38 | TPC | :P |
| 18:09.54 | killfill | damn.. 27 MB is slimserver.. |
| 18:10.03 | killfill | im over a 10k connection.. :S |
| 18:10.10 | TPC | sshfs support would be nice out of the box |
| 18:10.25 | TPC | but the encryption can slow things down on a device like the N800, who doesn't have the fastest cpu |
| 18:12.35 | tomv | hi. is it known that scratchbox installations using the 4.0beta script don't work when using a non /scratchbox path? (rpath...) if not, is the maemo bugzilla the right place to report it? |
| 18:13.36 | pupnik | libid3-3.8.3c2a_3.8.3-6_armel.deb built |
| 18:13.49 | killfill | hm.. but slimserver isnt a daap server, is it?.. |
| 18:15.54 | ||cw | iphone supports nfs? |
| 18:16.02 | ||cw | did I read that right? |
| 18:17.55 | suihkulokki | no, I was being extremely sarcastic |
| 18:18.38 | ||cw | k |
| 18:19.08 | pupnik | should i disable unaligned memory access for speed ? |
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| 18:42.06 | tomv | say, is python available for the sdk4.0 beta? |
| 18:44.49 | luck^ | tomv, not yet. I can generate it under x86 target, but the armel target has a problem with qemu |
| 18:47.54 | luck^ | tomv, it doesn't allow to use threads (its related with a lack of NPTL support inside qemu) |
| 18:49.11 | tomv | luck^: what's with the recipe on your blog? |
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| 18:50.04 | luck^ | tomv, it works with alpha version |
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| 18:50.41 | tomv | luck^, could I try it for the beta or is that doomed to fail? |
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| 18:52.14 | luck^ | tomv, I suppose it will fail, because they removed some libs from alpha version.. but you can try :) |
| 18:54.32 | wday | hi, (i'm currently poking through the irclog, but) I'm wondering if there is anything other than octave that works as a good scientific calculator (think physics course work) for the n800 |
| 18:57.10 | wday | nice, hp 42s emulator, I suppose that could work |
| 19:01.32 | tomv | ok. will do. I guess that when the problem is qemu-related, it's complicated enough not to be worked on by the random passer-by... |
| 19:01.38 | tomv | luck^: ^ |
| 19:05.04 | luck^ | tomv, unfortunately :( |
| 19:07.35 | tomv | luck^: hm. :( so is your blog the place to watch? |
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| 19:09.02 | luck^ | tomv, for sure. I'm only posting things related to pymaemo |
| 19:10.33 | pupnik | new dosbox - http://pupnik.de/dosbox_0.71-0.1_armel.deb |
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| 19:13.36 | tomv | luck^: ok. thanks for now. and good luck! |
| 19:13.46 | Thanatermesis | ok ppl, 2 questions :) how i install a gcc and where i can get a nice sources.list for a new n800 ? |
| 19:14.12 | pupnik | repositories? |
| 19:14.12 | _Monkey | rumour has it repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php |
| 19:14.13 | luck^ | tomv, thanks! :) |
| 19:14.16 | pupnik | scratchbox? |
| 19:14.16 | _Monkey | hmmm... scratchbox is a cross-compilation toolkit for maemo application development. Homepage: http://www.scratchbox.org/ Maemo 3.x (bora/N800) tutorial: http://qurl.org/yN Maemo 2.2 (gregale/770) tutorial: http://qurl.org/zN A walkthrough for 3.x: http://qurl.org/0O Scratchbox Downloads: http://qurl.org/1O |
| 19:14.29 | pupnik | Thanatermesis: ^^ |
| 19:15.45 | Thanatermesis | thx pupnik :) |
| 19:15.59 | Thanatermesis | about the repositories... is safe that i add "all the repositories" ? |
| 19:16.13 | Thanatermesis | or exist some conficts between libs and stuff ? |
| 19:16.14 | Thanatermesis | conflicts* |
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| 19:18.49 | lle2 | if there's somebody here who's involved with the chinook rootstraps, I've couple of questions |
| 19:19.11 | lle2 | 1: what do you smoke? |
| 19:19.30 | Deformati | So bored. |
| 19:20.07 | lle2 | 2: could you please stop and have some Clue(TM) instead? |
| 19:22.09 | unique311 | is it possible to start windows from the command prompt? |
| 19:22.10 | unique311 | sorry |
| 19:22.28 | sp3000 | if you install windows first :P |
| 19:24.03 | Deformati | So bored. |
| 19:24.11 | Deformati | Oh |
| 19:24.17 | Deformati | I already said that, |
| 19:24.19 | lle2 | still bored? |
| 19:24.39 | Deformati | Yeahh... |
| 19:27.17 | Thanatermesis | the applications give with the tablet (maemo apps?), are open source ? |
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| 19:28.45 | ||cw | Thanatermesis: much of it is, but not all |
| 19:30.31 | akjohn | Hello all.. Greetings from Alaska... |
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| 19:30.47 | akjohn | Someone have a moment to help me with the new browser? |
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| 19:32.59 | akjohn | Please? Sorry I forgot that.. |
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| 19:34.51 | Thana` | the applications that n800 has, are open source ? |
| 19:35.06 | ||cw | akjohn: be more specific? |
| 19:35.13 | ||cw | Thana`: much of it is, but not all |
| 19:35.32 | Thana` | ||cw, some applications seems interesting, like the wifi or bluetooth ones |
| 19:36.06 | akjohn | ||cw, Ah, thanks. I would like to change the browser engine the UI is using but I can not seem to find any documentation on how to do that.. |
| 19:36.11 | ||cw | the wifi driver in 770 was not, not sure about the 800, and I don't know about the applet |
| 19:36.42 | ||cw | akjohn: the browser is opera, I'm not aware that the "engine" can be changed |
| 19:36.49 | ||cw | you can install another browser though |
| 19:37.00 | Thana` | no, driver no... the GUI apps :) |
| 19:37.03 | Thana` | btw, what's the WM ? |
| 19:37.19 | akjohn | ||cw, I have installed the microb engine, but I now cannot switch back to the opera engine.. |
| 19:37.54 | akjohn | ||cw, I would like to be able to switch back and forth without the uninstall/install hassle. Seems like it could be done.. |
| 19:37.56 | ||cw | Thana`: maemo |
| 19:38.17 | lle2 | so no chinook developers alive here? |
| 19:38.36 | bmidgley | lle2: I'm trying it out |
| 19:38.53 | ||cw | akjohn: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/users/27589 |
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| 19:38.58 | lle2 | bmidgley: it's not even trying to work for me |
| 19:39.19 | lle2 | bmidgley: apt-get source libglib2.0-0 fails... |
| 19:40.21 | bmidgley | lle2: some strange error about IP not found eh |
| 19:40.40 | lle2 | for me it says that glib2.0 doesn't exist |
| 19:40.47 | lle2 | I'm on sb2 obviously |
| 19:41.21 | lle2 | 3.1 rootstrap works just fine, to the extent that I expect, which is not that much, but still. |
| 19:41.22 | bmidgley | lle2: looks like their repository needs updating |
| 19:41.55 | akjohn | Anyone know how to type the "esc" key in the xterm? |
| 19:42.14 | rev | Ctrl-[ or ] ? |
| 19:42.18 | lle2 | the backflipping arrowy thing |
| 19:42.18 | rev | [ i think |
| 19:42.21 | rev | or that |
| 19:42.47 | bmidgley | yeah I couldn't find the | symbol either |
| 19:42.54 | ||cw | akjohn: the circle-arrow hardware button is ESC |
| 19:43.44 | lle2 | I'm starting to suspect that chinook SDK will be a total disaster for sb2 use |
| 19:44.13 | Thana` | what is bora, mistral.. |
| 19:44.25 | akjohn | ||cw, Back to Opera! Sweet. Thanks for the help. Now how come in my multi-hour search a thon I could not find that. |
| 19:44.33 | ||cw | Thana`: version, like debian's sarge, etch |
| 19:44.50 | loganbr | killfill: I use mediatomb as a mediaserver. It works okay. www.mediatomb.cc |
| 19:45.02 | akjohn | ||cw, I can use gmail again.. |
| 19:45.03 | rev | darr, speaking of opera, i have to upgrade to te newer OS image one of these days |
| 19:45.07 | rev | are there any gotchas with it? |
| 19:45.12 | rev | the one nokia released recently-ish |
| 19:45.17 | ||cw | akjohn: I just searched for "microb opera" and that was on the first page |
| 19:45.23 | rev | i was installing some packages for a mozilla engine and it killed my opera install |
| 19:45.26 | Thana` | aha, and what's one ? bora is the stable and mistral is the testing ? |
| 19:45.35 | akjohn | ||cw, Sigh.. I was getting too complicated with the search terms I guess.. |
| 19:45.40 | rev | perhaps that is what we were talking about? |
| 19:46.00 | ||cw | Thana`: no, they are just versions. I don't recall what's the newest |
| 19:46.03 | akjohn | rev, Its fine as far as I can tell.. Finger input is better in some ways and worse in others.. |
| 19:47.23 | akjohn | rev, The new browser crashes a little too much for me though.. |
| 19:47.32 | rev | akjohn: does it fix the crappiness of stylus input i have on my N800 (that I didn't on my 770) ? |
| 19:47.49 | akjohn | rev, Mmm.. Maybe, what crappiness are you referring to? :-) |
| 19:47.52 | rev | akjohn: oh? crashy? i never had many problems on my n800 or 770, with the older images i've used... something to be concerned about? |
| 19:48.18 | rev | akjohn: maybe, but i never do finger input. for instance, when i am entering text w/ the softkeyboard, i often have to go back and do it again, this time slowly and watching to make sure the key lights up |
| 19:48.19 | akjohn | rev, Just in the new browser.. Everything else seems fine.. |
| 19:48.39 | akjohn | rev, Mmm.. I have not noticed that problem.. |
| 19:48.42 | rev | akjohn: but it happens often enough that i know it isn't just me, because it began happening the day i got my N800 and ditched my 770 |
| 19:48.54 | rev | if i type "ls -l" in xterm, it usually registers "ll" or something |
| 19:48.59 | rev | and i'm not going all that fast |
| 19:49.05 | rev | it just doesn't register a tap |
| 19:49.07 | akjohn | rev, Mmm. Nope. I do not have that problem at all.. |
| 19:49.09 | rev | ah |
| 19:49.10 | rev | ok |
| 19:49.13 | rev | harumph |
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| 19:53.20 | akjohn | ||cw, Thanks again. I am back in business.. |
| 19:53.28 | Thana` | ||cw, ok, im going to add some repositories to have a big list of applications available that my GF can install what she want... its a problem that i can add all the repos available ? |
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| 21:08.15 | rittyan1 | Hi, can somebody help me with creating of a *.desktop file for maemo? I've never did it before... when I do '/bin/sh /media/mmc2/flashcards/flashcards.sh' it all works, but when exactly the same thing put into "Exec" field of desktop-file, it doesn't... I'm asking because I have no idea how to debug it |
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| 21:13.22 | pupnik | can a desktop work with a .sh script? |
| 21:13.47 | pupnik | maybe the X-Osso-Type= is mismatched? |
| 21:13.58 | pupnik | port/timer.c: In function `read_rdtsc': |
| 21:13.59 | pupnik | port/timer.c:35: error: impossible constraint in `asm' |
| 21:14.35 | rittyan1 | pupnik, X-Osso-Type=application/x-executable |
| 21:14.48 | pupnik | i can only guess, rittyan1 |
| 21:14.53 | rittyan1 | I don't know whether it can or can't work with a .sh script (why not) |
| 21:15.19 | pupnik | is a sh script really an executable? |
| 21:15.30 | rittyan1 | pupnik, also strange thing... when I have #!/bin/sh in my file, it says "permission denied" when I execute it with "./flashcards.sh".. but when I do "/bin/sh flashcards.sh" it works... any idea? |
| 21:15.36 | rittyan1 | pupnik, tried chmod +x and chmod 777 |
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| 21:15.59 | suihkulokki | pupnik: read_rdtsc sounds really x86 specific |
| 21:16.12 | pupnik | hrm thanks suihkulokki |
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| 21:16.48 | suihkulokki | aka. wahat exactly are you compiling? |
| 21:17.10 | pupnik | gens, genesis emulator |
| 21:17.19 | pupnik | just slogged through the sloppy build system |
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| 21:17.24 | suihkulokki | agh |
| 21:17.31 | pupnik | dgen is working sort-of btw |
| 21:17.50 | suihkulokki | that's probably using the tsc registers for accurate high-resolution timing |
| 21:18.55 | pupnik | ok i'm being dumb - found quite a bit of x86 asm now that i looked - ty :() |
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| 21:22.48 | rittyan1 | found problem... i'm trying to run it from flash, but it's mounted with "noexec"... will try without it |
| 21:24.18 | Lateralus | Anyone have problems with intltool in Bora? In my armel target I don't have intltoolize etc available (though, intltool and intltool-debian are listed as installed (dpkg -l)). These are available in the x86 target. |
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| 21:35.41 | khem | Hello folk, I want to run my own kernel on N800 is there some info on how to do that kernel I intend to use is from linux-omap tree |
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| 21:40.04 | pupnik | you can find some custom kernels on the web - there must be info somewhere khem |
| 21:40.19 | pupnik | !kernel |
| 21:41.52 | pupnik | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_kernel_guide_bora.html |
| 21:42.10 | khem | pupnik: thanks |
| 21:43.16 | pupnik | _Monkey: kernel howto is http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_kernel_guide_bora.html |
| 21:43.16 | _Monkey | OK, pupnik. |
| 21:44.39 | khem | is there a way to look at sources online |
| 21:47.18 | pupnik | yes for some, iirc |
| 21:51.50 | unique311 | pupnik good job on getting that fullscreen going on touchmegames. |
| 21:52.40 | unique311 | I passed out last night...was so tired.. |
| 21:52.42 | pupnik | thanks :) |
| 21:53.50 | pupnik | a couple of games are playable, but a bunch aren't really |
| 21:53.56 | pupnik | and there's no 'quit' button visible |
| 21:54.06 | pupnik | etc - it's a good project to learn hildon on though |
| 21:54.34 | pupnik | i'll put up the source tarball tonight/tomorrow |
| 21:54.41 | unique311 | simple to hildon? |
| 21:55.01 | pupnik | well there's just not much needed |
| 21:55.18 | pupnik | maybe a menubar for about/quit |
| 21:55.22 | pupnik | and fullscreen toggle button |
| 22:01.36 | pupnik | unique311 - there's the binary and the modified source ... http://pupnik.de/touchmegames_maemo-0.2.0_src.tgz |
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| 22:02.18 | rittyan1 | pupnik, it started to work after removing all X-* crap |
| 22:06.40 | unique311 | arigato gozaimaste pupnik |
| 22:07.03 | unique311 | only japanese i remember from my time in japan, so sad... |
| 22:08.46 | unique311 | so qtopia has gone opensource, and i notice the N800 as one of the devices on this article. |
| 22:11.52 | pupnik | heh :) nice |
| 22:12.07 | pupnik | i updated the webspace to 600MB so i don't have to be so stingy with space anymore |
| 22:13.06 | pupnik | Joey Hess is amazing, btw. He's maintaining so many packages.. |
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| 22:17.05 | killfill | anyone happend to know how to make upnp traverse NAT?.. |
| 22:19.32 | unique311 | pupnik: were you getting socket set errors on touchmegames? |
| 22:19.45 | unique311 | Unable to set for a fresh socket |
| 22:20.11 | pupnik | yeah i got some errors - i added a dumb thing to the main.cpp file |
| 22:20.45 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.46 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.50 | pupnik | comment out those two lines |
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| 22:32.02 | Thanatermesis | what video-conferencing tools (with video) exist for n800 ? |
| 22:32.18 | Thanatermesis | apps i mean, chat's stuff |
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| 22:40.15 | Thanatermesis | mmh, only from n800 to other same device... no to normal computers... crap |
| 22:40.16 | Thanatermesis | good night |
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| 23:23.57 | pupnik | nice hit with the new kagu, - wonder how many downloads it's had |
| 23:24.06 | pupnik | .///what - do people here all work in the morning? |
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| 23:25.33 | GeneralAntilles | "morning" |
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| 23:26.49 | pupnik | :) |
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| 23:42.00 | Deformati | Is it possible to make custom desktop applets? |
| 23:43.33 | Lateralus | Yes |
| 23:43.40 | Lateralus | It's a bit of a pain, especially to debug, however. |
| 23:43.49 | pupnik | cpu68k.c:121:1: pasting "ui_log_critical" and "(" does not give a valid preprocessing token |
| 23:43.54 | pupnik | there's a new one for me :/ |
| 23:44.05 | Deformati | Lateralus: cool. |
| 23:44.20 | Deformati | I need to make a todo list. |
| 23:44.36 | Deformati | But first, I need to get an onboard compiler working. |
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| 23:54.31 | pupnik | did you know you can open URLs from xterm on the nokia? |
| 23:54.36 | pupnik | just hold down the stylus on it |
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