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| 00:14.45 | skibur | hum |
| 00:15.05 | skibur | what is the most popular app on the N800? |
| 00:25.48 | unique311 | kagu |
| 00:26.37 | unique311 | skibur, you can check maemo.org, go to the garage, and see what is being downloaded the most. |
| 00:27.15 | unique311 | top download, is maemo mapper |
| 00:27.15 | skibur | o cool |
| 00:27.20 | skibur | didn't know about that |
| 00:27.21 | skibur | thanks |
| 00:27.35 | unique311 | most active this week, video center |
| 00:28.04 | skibur | uClinux for Nintendo DS is looking great |
| 00:28.16 | skibur | it's call DSLinux |
| 00:28.18 | skibur | :P |
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| 00:30.18 | unique311 | not a ds owner.. |
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| 01:33.43 | Deformative | ... |
| 01:33.46 | Deformative | Where is everyone? |
| 01:33.47 | _Monkey | everyone is a critic :) |
| 01:42.50 | Deformative | How is it even possible that no one has tried onboard gcc? |
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| 02:11.42 | Deformative | ? |
| 02:12.17 | pupnik | managed to fix some dependency problems even though the required package wouldn't build |
| 02:12.33 | Deformative | Oh. |
| 02:12.38 | Deformative | Try to build gcc. :) |
| 02:16.14 | [31d1] | isnt gcc in red pill mode? |
| 02:16.42 | Deformative | g++ is, but I need to know how to build it. |
| 02:16.56 | pupnik | some newer apps want a gcc > 3.4 i think |
| 02:17.00 | pupnik | might be nice to have 4.1 |
| 02:17.05 | [31d1] | hmm, swear i saw that |
| 02:17.06 | Deformative | Yeah |
| 02:17.16 | [31d1] | i just still cant believe no one needed diff |
| 02:17.19 | [31d1] | wtf |
| 02:17.26 | Deformative | And if I cannot build gcc, I cannot build gdc |
| 02:17.45 | pupnik | did you search maemo-devel? |
| 02:18.58 | Deformative | Huh? |
| 02:19.11 | pupnik | there is a mailing list |
| 02:19.24 | Deformative | I will subscribe tomorrow. |
| 02:19.29 | Deformative | I need to sleep now. |
| 02:19.39 | pupnik | ok cheers |
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| 02:42.02 | [31d1] | ooooooo |
| 02:42.07 | [31d1] | lemmings |
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| 02:53.27 | pupnik | starts up ok, sound+music works, but crashes |
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| 03:12.23 | pupnik | pingus is a free lemmings clone - currently seeking testers http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9794 - /msg pupnik to test |
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| 04:07.22 | pupnik | crashes fixxorzed :P |
| 04:07.35 | pupnik | speed tripledzored :P |
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| 04:12.03 | evadnee | my 770 is not working :( |
| 04:12.11 | evadnee | it is charging but not booting... |
| 04:12.21 | evadnee | any suggestions? |
| 04:12.22 | _Monkey | any suggestions are welcome |
| 04:14.25 | pupnik | reflash |
| 04:14.30 | evadnee | how? |
| 04:14.36 | pupnik | flasher? |
| 04:14.37 | _Monkey | well, flasher is available from http://tablets-dev.nokia.com |
| 04:14.50 | evadnee | its connecting to the mmc but not the nokia? |
| 04:15.03 | pupnik | no |
| 04:15.30 | evadnee | how do i reflash this thing? |
| 04:15.32 | evadnee | i don |
| 04:15.43 | evadnee | i don't want to send it in to be fixed :( |
| 04:15.57 | milhouse | use the windows update wizard |
| 04:16.16 | milhouse | might even get a mention in the manual |
| 04:16.31 | evadnee | yes i did try that |
| 04:16.36 | milhouse | and? |
| 04:16.40 | evadnee | no good |
| 04:16.46 | evadnee | its not connecting to the nokia |
| 04:16.50 | evadnee | its connecting to the mmc |
| 04:16.58 | milhouse | no idea, i give up |
| 04:17.32 | evadnee | c'mon guys think harder!! |
| 04:17.53 | milhouse | you're not making any sense to be honest |
| 04:17.56 | evadnee | i went to sleep with it charging and when i woke up it was shut off and then it would not boot |
| 04:18.05 | evadnee | what do you want me to clear up? |
| 04:18.13 | evadnee | its not booting, but its charging |
| 04:18.15 | milhouse | what do you mean "it's connecting to the mmc"? |
| 04:18.30 | evadnee | the card |
| 04:18.31 | _Monkey | somebody said the card was faster and can be ext2 or something instead of jffs2 |
| 04:18.46 | milhouse | see? no sense whatsoever... ;) |
| 04:18.56 | evadnee | the micro sd card |
| 04:19.30 | milhouse | you mean it boots from mmc, but doesn't boot from internal flash? |
| 04:19.36 | evadnee | when i connect the 770 to my pc via usb |
| 04:19.40 | evadnee | yeah that.. |
| 04:19.40 | _Monkey | yeah that is probably cool. i will be porting some linux stuff to maemo. hoping to be not much painful as Symbian was |
| 04:20.08 | milhouse | _monkey forget "yeah that" |
| 04:20.08 | _Monkey | milhouse, I didn't have anything matching "yeah that" |
| 04:20.30 | milhouse | so it boots... reflash it |
| 04:20.41 | evadnee | how? |
| 04:21.11 | milhouse | Did you get a small booklet with your 770? |
| 04:21.19 | milhouse | commonly referred to as a "manual"? |
| 04:21.21 | evadnee | its not booting at all though, its stuck on the charging screen, even if i hold down the home key |
| 04:21.33 | milhouse | you said it booted from mmc |
| 04:21.43 | pupnik | no |
| 04:21.45 | evadnee | no forget that |
| 04:21.49 | pupnik | "it's connecting to the mmc" |
| 04:21.57 | evadnee | ^ that |
| 04:22.05 | milhouse | which means what, exactly? |
| 04:22.24 | evadnee | the bottom line is that 'its not booting at all' |
| 04:22.37 | milhouse | you mean your PC is mounting the mcc card as a disk drive even though your device not booting? |
| 04:22.41 | evadnee | should i send it in to be serviced or can i fix this at home |
| 04:22.47 | evadnee | yes |
| 04:22.55 | milhouse | have you tried removing the battery? |
| 04:23.01 | evadnee | yes |
| 04:23.08 | milhouse | and removing the mmc card? |
| 04:23.11 | evadnee | yes |
| 04:23.44 | milhouse | what happens when you connect the usb cable to your 770 and pc, then power on the 770 while holding the Home key? |
| 04:24.34 | evadnee | the white nokia screen comes on, and i see the usb icon on the top right but after 3-4 secs it goes back to the charging screen |
| 04:25.09 | milhouse | what happens if you do the above but without the AC charger connected? |
| 04:25.25 | evadnee | it doesn't even power on at all |
| 04:25.36 | milhouse | duff battery?@ |
| 04:25.36 | evadnee | without the charger it doesn't work at all |
| 04:25.43 | evadnee | hmm? |
| 04:25.55 | milhouse | try another battery |
| 04:26.06 | milhouse | or leave it charging for about 12 hours then try again |
| 04:26.22 | evadnee | its been charging for awhile now :( |
| 04:26.36 | evadnee | should i send it in to be serviced? |
| 04:26.36 | milhouse | then i would try another battery |
| 04:26.56 | evadnee | i don't understand why it isn't booting though :( |
| 04:27.07 | lle2 | dead battery |
| 04:27.14 | milhouse | maybe because there isn't enough charge in the battery... hence why i suggest you try another battery |
| 04:27.30 | lle2 | sw checks the charge level and refuses to run if there's not enough |
| 04:27.31 | milhouse | by all means send it in for service, but it could just be a dead or defective battery |
| 04:27.42 | evadnee | ic |
| 04:27.54 | evadnee | i suppose this happened literally over night |
| 04:28.12 | evadnee | though the 770 currently says that the battery is full |
| 04:28.20 | milhouse | if you do send it it, you're not supposed to send in the battery, battery cover, stylus or hard-cover so there's a chance they'll find nothing wrong... |
| 04:28.47 | milhouse | how old is it? |
| 04:28.54 | evadnee | a couple months old |
| 04:29.12 | milhouse | can't really suggest much more... do you have another battery to test with? |
| 04:29.16 | milhouse | or can borrow one? |
| 04:29.24 | evadnee | i don't have another battery |
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| 04:29.53 | evadnee | maybe i can run down the mall 2morrow and see if those cellphone stores have a nokia battery lying around? |
| 04:30.11 | evadnee | what would you suggest? |
| 04:30.27 | lle2 | that sounds like a good idea |
| 04:30.35 | milhouse | agreed |
| 04:31.03 | evadnee | alright, i'll see you guys later :) |
| 04:31.07 | evadnee | thanks for the help! |
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| 07:05.11 | fish_ | re |
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| 07:20.54 | Dave_ | hi |
| 07:21.26 | Dave_ | can anyone tell men online shop to buy cheap n800 using paypal? |
| 07:21.35 | Dave_ | me* |
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| 07:25.36 | pcsaszar | Hi people |
| 07:26.05 | pcsaszar | I just got this place, that someone from here migthbe able to help |
| 07:26.23 | pcsaszar | Can you use files.maemo.org at this moment |
| 07:26.49 | pcsaszar | I am asked for username and password all the time. But on friday, things worked fine. |
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| 07:31.55 | pcsaszar | Well I am trying to use repository with apt-get update |
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| 10:32.00 | lardman | morning |
| 10:32.00 | _Monkey | aloha |
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| 10:45.30 | Dave_ | can anyone tell me an online shop to buy cheap n800 using paypal? |
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| 11:22.03 | fish_ | ah crap, the shop were i bought my 770 tries to fix it with a new display instead of exchange it with a n800 :( |
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| 11:25.07 | cosmo | why would they exchange it to N800? 770 is still being sold |
| 11:29.14 | `0660 | i wonder if fiat exchanges faulty cars to ferraris :) |
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| 11:34.34 | Big_B | good morning(~ugt) |
| 11:35.26 | Big_B | anybody can tell me how to covert JOCTET to gchar for gtk |
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| 11:46.27 | Big_B | please anybody tell how to covert JOCTET to gchar for gtk |
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| 11:48.12 | nomis | Big_B: what is JOCTET? |
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| 11:55.41 | Big_B | JOCTET * buffer; |
| 11:55.53 | Big_B | nomis: JOCTET * buffer; |
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| 12:10.43 | sp3000 | how useful |
| 12:10.58 | sp3000 | there seem to be two places that can give you such creatures |
| 12:11.27 | sp3000 | what you have and what you want they seem to be the same thing though so a cast should do |
| 12:11.35 | sp3000 | now the contents are of course another story |
| 12:11.56 | Mikho | how can I use C-compiled .a -library in a c++ program? The linker complains it can't find the functions that are supposed to be defined in the .a file? |
| 12:13.02 | Dave_ | anyone not afk here?.. |
| 12:13.08 | dwmw2 | maybe |
| 12:13.20 | Dave_ | can anyone tell me an online shop to buy cheap n800 using paypal? |
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| 12:48.30 | user__ | hi, anyone know of any resumeble download managers for n800 please? |
| 12:49.32 | sbaturzio | Rebroad: wget ? |
| 12:49.33 | _Monkey | rumour has it wget is an utility for non-interactive download of files from the Web. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/wget/ |
| 12:50.34 | Rebroad | thanks sbaturzio & _Monkey |
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| 12:54.50 | Dave_ | can anyone tell me an online shop to buy cheap n800 using paypal? |
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| 13:01.53 | Rebroad | how do i make wget resume please? it just starts from the beginning each time so far |
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| 13:03.11 | jani | man wget .. -c is continue/resume switch .. |
| 13:03.56 | jani | also, some websites do not support that.. specially if there's some download scripts in the site setup.. |
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| 13:09.58 | alterego | Urgh .. Making debian packages is hard .. |
| 13:10.12 | alterego | I can honestly say I've got no idea what I'm doing ^_^ |
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| 13:13.30 | alterego | Okay .. It's a bit easier than I thought. I just realised what all this files are doing ^_^ |
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| 13:21.29 | fish_ | cosmo: is it really still be sold? i thought nokia doesnt support it anymore? |
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| 13:29.35 | cosmo | fish_: yes |
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| 13:35.39 | alterego | Woo! FIRST DEB PACKAGE! |
| 13:35.40 | alterego | O_O |
| 13:43.20 | solmumaha | gimme gimme |
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| 13:48.05 | pupnik_ | http://synthesize.us/HOWTO_make_a_deb_archive |
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| 14:26.07 | qgil | hi, the scoop is for you: http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo_4_0_chinook_beta_sdk.html |
| 14:26.40 | qgil | we have completed the upload and we are doing the last testing before announcing the release |
| 14:26.58 | disq | good news! :) |
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| 14:34.17 | cosmo | hm, gotta try that |
| 14:37.54 | TPC | 4.0 is coming up? cool |
| 14:41.57 | koen | # HAL added, with libhal as wrapper. Supported devices: |
| 14:41.58 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:02.56 | pupnik_ | Is there a debhelper >= 5 for gregale maemo yet? |
| 15:03.19 | pupnik_ | Version: 4.2.32 |
| 15:14.10 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 15:14.16 | pupnik_ | hi |
| 15:14.16 | _Monkey | bonjour, pupnik_ |
| 15:14.41 | Jaffa | koen: intriguing |
| 15:15.45 | koen | Jaffa: indeed |
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| 15:24.24 | pupnik_ | what's jotter? |
| 15:26.04 | Jaffa | http://www.ericlindsay.com/epoc/bjot5.htm |
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| 15:28.02 | pupnik_ | oh psion - i suppose maemopad+ is not a substitute? |
| 15:28.22 | disq | wonder if it's ok to add other project (related to maemo) trackers in #maemo-commits |
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| 15:33.20 | pupnik_ | 524138 Sep 17 16:32 debhelper_5.0.54_all.deb :P :P :P |
| 15:33.34 | cosmo | hmm. getting connection reset by peers when d/ling maemo 4.0 beta debs |
| 15:33.42 | Jaffa | pupnik_: Maemopad+ didn't quite have the right workflow for me. Jotter took the first line of the note as a title and was free-format rich text, last time I tried Maemopad+ it required a title to be added before the note |
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| 15:34.06 | lardman | kulve: You about? |
| 15:34.25 | pupnik_ | i didn't use the psion 5mx and netbook much, but it was instantly usable |
| 15:34.49 | lardman | kulve: Just wondering if you had any ideas for debugging tasks that don't want to start up (i.e. open() returns -1)? |
| 15:35.08 | lardman | pupnik_: and had a keyboard :) |
| 15:40.48 | |tbb| | has anyone experience running kde on n800 |
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| 15:49.29 | cosmo | did anyone manage to install 4.0 beta? |
| 15:49.48 | cosmo | my installation always fails on Err http://repository.maemo.org chinook/free ppp 2.4.4rel-8osso3 Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer) [IP: 193.184.164.153 80] |
| 15:50.17 | Jaffa | Using a proxy? |
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| 15:51.12 | cosmo | not sure, but this is on company network so it's possible |
| 15:51.31 | Jaffa | Might need to export http_proxy=http://somebox:someport |
| 15:51.54 | cosmo | it downloads 400 packages successfully before that |
| 15:52.00 | cosmo | and always fails on ppp package |
| 15:52.00 | Jaffa | Ah |
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| 16:11.31 | guardian | is maemo compatible with the latest apophis releases ? can someone sum this up ? |
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| 16:11.53 | erstazi | guardian: yes |
| 16:12.00 | erstazi | I would use the latest apophis releases |
| 16:12.11 | guardian | ok |
| 16:12.42 | guardian | i never really paid attention to the maemo3-sdk package and why it exists etc |
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| 16:13.20 | suihkulokki | it should pull in all devkits needed for maemo 3, and add some nice tools |
| 16:14.05 | guardian | could you please tell more about the tools ? |
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| 16:20.21 | suihkulokki | I don't remember what and I'm too lazy to look up |
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| 16:40.50 | lardman | ~lart dspgateway error messages |
| 16:40.50 | infobot | crushes dspgateway error messages with a full height scsi disk |
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| 16:44.14 | pupnik | heh |
| 16:46.25 | lardman | I've got everything to compile, just the old error of working out why the dsptask won't load |
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| 16:47.35 | pupnik | but my debhelper 5 seems to be working! |
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| 16:48.24 | pupnik | it is jam-packed with fudge and ignored dependencies |
| 16:48.42 | pupnik | and dependencies where i edited rules to skip tests :) |
| 16:48.51 | pupnik | totally nsfw :) |
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| 17:42.31 | alterego | What's the codename for maemo 2.2? |
| 17:42.58 | `0660 | gregale? |
| 17:42.58 | _Monkey | i heard gregale was something else entirely |
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| 17:44.18 | lle2 | is there anyone who thinks that the monkey is useful? |
| 17:44.20 | pupnik | hello ssvb, guardian |
| 17:44.24 | pupnik | yes |
| 17:44.30 | lle2 | itself? |
| 17:44.37 | guardian | hi |
| 17:44.44 | pupnik | saves me typing answering faqs |
| 17:44.56 | pupnik | it should only trigger with special character though |
| 17:44.59 | ssvb | hello pupnik |
| 17:45.31 | pupnik | ssvb, I got pingus running last night :) |
| 17:46.04 | pupnik | i'm curious how it runs on n800 - on 770 it requires VM |
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| 17:47.13 | alterego | mistral :) |
| 17:47.58 | lle2 | the monkey scores really well on the most annoying net personality of the year awards |
| 17:48.30 | suihkulokki | _Monkey: change to something |
| 17:48.31 | _Monkey | suihkulokki: that doesn't look right |
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| 17:49.52 | pupnik | i have seen the automated response yield something useful 3-4 times, and be useless 40-80 times |
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| 17:54.59 | ssvb | pupnik: most likely pingus should be fine on n800, it has the same amount of ram as n770 ram+swap :) unless you have enabled more than 64MB of swap |
| 17:56.25 | saaib | morning everyone |
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| 18:07.10 | alterego | Strange .. |
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| 18:36.10 | alterego | Okay .. |
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| 19:05.35 | alterego | Should my debs be called '*_ermel' for mistral? |
| 19:05.48 | pupnik | *_armel |
| 19:05.56 | alterego | Yes .. |
| 19:05.58 | alterego | Is that right? |
| 19:06.14 | alterego | Because the have identical names the mistral and bora debs :/ |
| 19:06.26 | pupnik | yes all those are armel |
| 19:06.31 | pupnik | only it2005 was arm |
| 19:06.37 | alterego | Okay |
| 19:06.44 | Jaffa | Yeah, that's fine. If they're incompatible with a particular API, depend on a version of hildon-application-framework etc |
| 19:07.11 | alterego | Oh, so I can run OS2007 apps on an OS2006 device? |
| 19:07.15 | alterego | Provided the deps are met? |
| 19:07.25 | alterego | And visa versa? |
| 19:07.37 | pupnik | no. vice versa yes |
| 19:08.42 | alterego | :P |
| 19:08.58 | alterego | Interesting, I thought there was a binary compatibilty break between IT06 and IT07 |
| 19:09.11 | alterego | But that was between OS05 and OS06? |
| 19:09.43 | pupnik | no, yes |
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| 19:10.49 | alterego | Okay .. |
| 19:15.33 | disq | no, yes. yes, no. what? |
| 19:16.19 | pupnik | rearranging gtk menus right now - mostly via guesswork |
| 19:16.25 | pupnik | buttons rather |
| 19:18.24 | pupnik | New UAE: Average frame time: 65.145895 ms ... |
| 19:19.02 | pupnik | disq - do you want to fix-up UAE? |
| 19:21.48 | disq | not interested, sorry |
| 19:22.12 | disq | i don't believe it can run speedball2 at decent speed on maemo |
| 19:22.38 | pupnik | you got a 770 or 800? |
| 19:22.43 | disq | n800 |
| 19:22.45 | disq | erm, both in fact |
| 19:23.50 | pupnik | ok - in-game lemmings right now 5fps w/o sound on 770 |
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| 19:44.19 | saaib | pupnik, lemmings is running natively on 770 or requires anything additional? |
| 19:51.22 | gla55_ | saaib: guessing from previous lines, uae, amiga emulator |
| 19:51.44 | pupnik | trying to find fastest config settings right now |
| 19:54.20 | suihkulokki | there is a javascript version of lemmings |
| 19:54.39 | suihkulokki | http://games.funnygames.nl/lemmings/index.html |
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| 20:05.03 | saaib | aha! just got my 770 replacement back from Nokia... |
| 20:06.05 | saaib | darn! my battery is on home :S I'll be just steering at the tablet 'till I get home |
| 20:09.21 | guru3 | steering? staring? |
| 20:09.58 | bedboi | you can steer it |
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| 20:11.58 | Knirch | wonder how many picoo-z it would take to lift a 770 |
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| 20:26.16 | lardman | see you chaps in a few days |
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| 20:47.53 | [31d1] | convert 1 liter to pints |
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| 20:50.17 | Mar_vet | ciao |
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| 20:52.50 | str | Hi all! |
| 20:53.30 | pupnik | greets |
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| 20:54.41 | str | I'm looking for help... My N800 does does not sound |
| 20:55.20 | str | I can hear FM radio.. but when I play videos o music.. it does not sound... |
| 20:55.50 | str | I have been lookging in google an forums for 2 days.. but found nothing |
| 20:55.56 | lle2 | there's a separate volume control for that |
| 20:56.02 | lle2 | in the player itself |
| 20:56.19 | [31d1] | WHY SEPARATE KNOB....WHYYY |
| 20:56.24 | lle2 | why not? |
| 20:56.31 | [31d1] | (seinfeld reference) |
| 20:56.46 | str | lle2: yes.. the volume is in at max, the global, the fmradio and the video player |
| 20:56.53 | lle2 | it's good to have multiple knobs to tweak |
| 20:57.12 | lle2 | well... then you have a real problem |
| 20:59.00 | lle2 | I can't help with those :( |
| 20:59.12 | str | lle2: it IS very weird.. because I found threads that say that they cannot hear the fmradio, but everything else works.. but mine is opposite |
| 20:59.28 | alterego | Have you tried a cold boot? |
| 20:59.35 | str | ok... anyone else? i'm very desesperate |
| 20:59.37 | str | alterego: yes |
| 20:59.43 | lle2 | warm hammer might be better |
| 20:59.44 | str | reboot, reflash... |
| 20:59.47 | alterego | :) |
| 20:59.57 | alterego | You reflashed it and it still didn't work? |
| 21:00.08 | alterego | Crap .. That was my next idea ^_^ |
| 21:00.16 | str | alterego: yes... |
| 21:00.21 | alterego | :/ |
| 21:01.13 | lle2 | maybe there's an undocumented mute feature |
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| 21:02.43 | alterego | O_o |
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| 21:03.18 | alterego | He says he can hear the radio, so you're using head phones for that. What about whilst watching video or listening to audio? |
| 21:03.31 | alterego | Does the FM radio produce static out of the loudspeakers? |
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| 21:08.36 | DRoBeR | Hello and good night! |
| 21:08.47 | DRoBeR | At last I have an N800 :) |
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| 21:09.21 | str_ | stupid connection :( |
| 21:09.33 | DRoBeR | Hello, str :) |
| 21:09.43 | str_ | so... again.... no one knows what could be with my sound :'( |
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| 21:14.06 | alterego | Sorry :/ |
| 21:14.08 | dk00 | Hi there, I'm curious if my Nokia LD-3W has compat issues with maemo mapper - it is constantly stuck at establishing gps fix screen... any ideas? |
| 21:14.44 | dk00 | Is there a way to see if correct channel is being used, or a place to modify it? |
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| 21:18.17 | pupnik | dunno sorry |
| 21:18.26 | pupnik | got a simpler question/ |
| 21:18.27 | pupnik | ? |
| 21:18.30 | alterego | Hah |
| 21:18.38 | pupnik | :) |
| 21:18.41 | alterego | dk00, how long have you had the device? |
| 21:19.16 | pupnik | str_: do you get system sounds? i.e. when starting up? |
| 21:20.22 | dk00 | heh, alterego both are newly acquired. |
| 21:20.33 | dk00 | ive updated the 770 with latest software... |
| 21:20.44 | dk00 | 2006 3.xxx |
| 21:20.55 | alterego | Oh, I was talking to str sorry :) |
| 21:21.05 | dk00 | ahh, help! |
| 21:21.19 | alterego | Hmm .. |
| 21:21.23 | dk00 | is there more specific nokia 770 support chane? |
| 21:21.36 | alterego | Well, I know a bit about BT and a bit about GPS. But unfortunately I've never used my N800 with a GPS :/ |
| 21:21.41 | alterego | So I can't help you I'm afriad. |
| 21:21.43 | dk00 | damn. |
| 21:21.44 | alterego | Oh wait. |
| 21:21.49 | dk00 | waiting... :) |
| 21:21.50 | alterego | Do you have a console? |
| 21:22.00 | dk00 | ah, yes i can install xterm |
| 21:22.26 | dk00 | after flash all is gone, so need toreinstall |
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| 21:23.16 | dk00 | is there a way to see further details when a 'package is incompatible with current software' |
| 21:23.22 | dk00 | these messages are so damn vague |
| 21:24.08 | alterego | Urm .. |
| 21:24.18 | alterego | There should be a dep list. |
| 21:25.17 | pupnik | there's a log in the app manager |
| 21:25.34 | alterego | Oh wow .. I wasn't expecting that .. |
| 21:25.44 | dk00 | aha, thanks pupnik |
| 21:25.47 | alterego | I didn't realise the status bar would expand downwards ^_^ |
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| 21:26.13 | dk00 | section: user/FOO must have user to be compatible] |
| 21:26.23 | dk00 | while trying to install downloaded .deb of osso-xterm |
| 21:26.32 | pupnik | the packager made a mistake then |
| 21:26.39 | dk00 | yikes |
| 21:26.42 | dk00 | can edit package? |
| 21:27.06 | pupnik | but i think you might have found an outdated version |
| 21:27.13 | dk00 | hmm |
| 21:27.14 | pupnik | cause those mistakes get fixed fast |
| 21:27.24 | dk00 | is there a main repository to access? |
| 21:27.31 | pupnik | xterm? |
| 21:27.32 | _Monkey | hmmm... xterm is the enhanced version of osso-xterm from maemo-hackers. It adds font and color selection support, URL opening through context menu, and a sidebar with additional keys such as Ctrl+letters. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/osso-xterm-advanced or http://dastych.sh.cvut.cz/~jtra/download/maemo/xterm/debs/ for an alternate onscreen keyboard |
| 21:27.32 | dk00 | to acquire these apps? |
| 21:27.50 | dk00 | thanks |
| 21:27.51 | alterego | osso-xterm is what I use on my N800 and 770 |
| 21:28.35 | dk00 | is there an app catalog for that? |
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| 21:28.57 | pupnik | looks like osso-xterm-advanced should be in the default repository |
| 21:30.03 | pupnik | Filename: pool/maemo2.2/free/o/osso-xterm/osso-xterm_0.13_armel.deb |
| 21:30.16 | pupnik | section: maemo/Applications hrm?! |
| 21:30.31 | pupnik | guess it's not in user section... oh well - that's the xterm I gots |
| 21:30.37 | dk00 | thanks. |
| 21:31.29 | dk00 | altergo, what did u suggest i check when i access console |
| 21:31.39 | alterego | Right, can you get root? |
| 21:31.45 | alterego | Oh wait, you might not have too. |
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| 21:32.25 | alterego | No, you shouldn't need root. |
| 21:32.34 | dk00 | ok... |
| 21:32.39 | alterego | Right, exec: hcitool con |
| 21:32.44 | alterego | When the application is running. |
| 21:32.51 | alterego | That should tell you if you're connected to the device or not. |
| 21:33.51 | dk00 | mmapper tells me the device is connected |
| 21:34.07 | alterego | Well what did you want to know then? |
| 21:34.26 | dk00 | it is stuck at establishing gps fix |
| 21:34.40 | dk00 | i was wondering if there are some channels that could be not correctly configured |
| 21:34.49 | alterego | What channels? |
| 21:34.53 | alterego | Bluetooth channels? |
| 21:35.04 | dk00 | yes |
| 21:35.14 | dk00 | any hardware settings in other words |
| 21:35.16 | alterego | If it's connected then it's connected. |
| 21:35.31 | alterego | You can always check to see if there's a /dev/rfcomX entry |
| 21:35.40 | [31d1] | have you tried it outside? so you can actually get a gps fix? |
| 21:35.50 | dk00 | momment, installing xerm |
| 21:35.56 | dk00 | xterm. |
| 21:35.56 | _Monkey | i heard xterm was the enhanced version of osso-xterm from maemo-hackers. It adds font and color selection support, URL opening through context menu, and a sidebar with additional keys such as Ctrl+letters. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/osso-xterm-advanced or http://dastych.sh.cvut.cz/~jtra/download/maemo/xterm/debs/ for an alternate onscreen keyboard |
| 21:36.19 | alterego | That could get annoying .. |
| 21:36.24 | alterego | ruby |
| 21:36.34 | alterego | _Monkey doesn't know ruby :( |
| 21:36.35 | _Monkey | alterego: excuse me? |
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| 21:36.40 | alterego | You heard. |
| 21:36.42 | dk00 | lol |
| 21:37.18 | dk00 | hcitool con outputs a connection |
| 21:37.33 | dk00 | < ACL xxmacxx handle 1 state 1 1m MASTER |
| 21:37.48 | dk00 | oohhhhh what is going on here! |
| 21:37.53 | dk00 | 3/12 sats |
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| 21:38.04 | dk00 | but no fix still, progress bar moved though. |
| 21:38.13 | dk00 | something is getting better! |
| 21:38.42 | dk00 | how sensitive is the gps unit to obstructions,... walls. buildings in area? |
| 21:38.48 | dk00 | (first gps unit) |
| 21:39.21 | [31d1] | mine has a hard time getting a fix unless im really outside |
| 21:39.28 | [31d1] | i.e not out of the window |
| 21:39.40 | dk00 | i see.. i got this building right beside me |
| 21:39.41 | [31d1] | in the car is not bad, but indoors is bad |
| 21:39.43 | dk00 | and im inside as well. |
| 21:39.52 | dk00 | thanks, 12 sats in view |
| 21:39.54 | dk00 | 3 in use |
| 21:39.58 | dk00 | but still hasnt "fixed" |
| 21:40.01 | dk00 | if that is the term |
| 21:40.03 | [31d1] | yeah you're just obstructed |
| 21:40.10 | [31d1] | go outside and it will work fine im sure |
| 21:40.13 | dk00 | ahh, outside for a smoke |
| 21:40.15 | dk00 | brb ;) |
| 21:40.23 | dk00 | damn swedish rain |
| 21:41.13 | [31d1] | better swedish rain than raining swedish meatballs, is what i always say |
| 21:43.36 | [31d1] | the quality of your rain is more than made up for by the quality of your bikini team |
| 21:46.59 | DRoBeR | Did you try openssh-server on your N800, people? |
| 21:52.59 | dk00 | back, that was pretty cool it finally worked |
| 21:53.10 | dk00 | even auto downloaded some map |
| 21:53.19 | dk00 | though the street i am on is not there |
| 21:53.39 | dk00 | and oddly enough, it was detecting my smoke break at 7.1km/hr lol |
| 21:53.45 | [31d1] | heh |
| 21:53.53 | dk00 | back inside the building, 0/9 sats lot signal |
| 21:53.54 | [31d1] | 'a quick smoke'' |
| 21:54.06 | dk00 | i thought they were better.. |
| 21:54.13 | dk00 | sirf iii |
| 21:54.25 | [31d1] | nah - cellphone ones work inside cause they do assisted gps afaik |
| 21:54.34 | dk00 | interesting |
| 21:54.43 | [31d1] | ie triangulate from towers |
| 21:54.46 | dk00 | assisted by gsm perhaps? |
| 21:54.54 | dk00 | yep, makes sense to me |
| 21:55.09 | [31d1] | im just glad it works through the car roof and in my pocket |
| 21:55.39 | dk00 | must be, because a friends blackberry was doing gps with no problems in a basement |
| 21:56.00 | [31d1] | yeah |
| 21:56.04 | dk00 | hah, the red "route" it drew is a funny scribble |
| 21:56.11 | dk00 | though i wasnt moving |
| 21:56.37 | dk00 | ok, so... thats figured out |
| 21:56.44 | dk00 | what are some interesting apps for this 770 |
| 21:56.47 | [31d1] | yeah it'll be off a bit at high zoom. works surprisingly well when driving |
| 21:57.08 | dk00 | is there a good place to aquire higher detailed maps? |
| 21:57.20 | dk00 | integrating directions, poi etc |
| 21:57.31 | [31d1] | you gotta look around for 'repositories' thats about all you get though |
| 21:57.49 | dk00 | ok, thanks |
| 21:58.03 | [31d1] | theres a googlemaps->gpx convertor at gnuite/maemo-mapper site |
| 21:58.16 | [31d1] | so you can convert directions to a route |
| 21:59.01 | dk00 | nice, gpx sounds cool |
| 21:59.15 | dk00 | what kind of maps are compatible? is there a standard? |
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| 22:02.01 | [31d1] | i think he adds new ones as people find them - the standard is a url with exactly 3 variables in order x y and zoom |
| 22:02.14 | [31d1] | but some munging is required for each one i think |
| 22:02.35 | [31d1] | internettablettalk has threads with different map urls |
| 22:02.41 | [31d1] | that work |
| 22:03.08 | [31d1] | you gotta poke around to find them cause i guess its a bit of a legal gray area |
| 22:03.15 | dk00 | cool thanks |
| 22:03.24 | dk00 | itt is the "main" forum? |
| 22:05.06 | pupnik | yeah |
| 22:05.48 | dk00 | great, thanks guys |
| 22:06.02 | dk00 | now time to unlock this nokia 6300 bb5... grrr |
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| 22:12.29 | pupnik | UAE is frustrating |
| 22:15.39 | bedboi | hmmm opengl?? |
| 22:16.19 | pupnik | yeah, it's pretty uncertain since opengl isn't central to the purpose of the tablet |
| 22:17.07 | pupnik | but... just one nice application - arbitrary scaling for 2D emulators/games |
| 22:17.27 | pupnik | also much faster compositing/transparency for 2D games and apps |
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| 22:29.23 | pupnik | is there an strace for the tablet? |
| 22:29.33 | pupnik | oh duh yes |
| 22:43.20 | pupnik | god bless strace |
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| 22:46.45 | pupnik | hi beavis |
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| 23:26.33 | alterego | Ruby maemo is now packaged :) |
| 23:27.00 | pupnik | nice |
| 23:27.36 | pupnik | for web work? |
| 23:27.54 | alterego | No, hildon bindings .. |
| 23:27.58 | alterego | For creating GUI apps. |
| 23:28.59 | alterego | Just gotta do some finishing touches to my maemo website and it'll be open for business :) |
| 23:30.03 | alterego | http://maemo.rubyx.co.uk |
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| 23:30.36 | pupnik | great! another language for the tablets |
| 23:31.22 | alterego | :)_ |
| 23:31.49 | alterego | Once I've uploaded the API docs too and a bit of text describing the stuff I'll advertise it on the mailing list. |
| 23:31.57 | alterego | Right now though, it's all there ready to be used :) |
| 23:32.25 | alterego | I build that site and cleaned up all the source. As well as learned and packaged all of the packages O_O |
| 23:32.29 | alterego | It's been quite a day. |
| 23:32.50 | alterego | I even put little icons on all of the packages in the application installer :) Quite proud of those ^_^ |
| 23:37.31 | pupnik | cool... |
| 23:37.36 | pupnik | i have to do that too |
| 23:37.53 | pupnik | are there any menu-launchable applications then? or just command-line? |
| 23:39.40 | pupnik | very productive day then alterego congratulations |
| 23:40.02 | alterego | Just command line. There's no libosso bindings yet., |
| 23:40.06 | alterego | That is my next tast. |
| 23:40.08 | alterego | ~task |
| 23:40.20 | alterego | So can't add apps to the application launcher. |
| 23:40.36 | alterego | But the hildon bindings work a treat. I've wrote a few GUI apps and examples. |
| 23:41.44 | alterego | I've been using the osso-graph-applet as a launcher menu for my ruby apps so far. |
| 23:43.29 | pupnik | interesting |
| 23:43.44 | pupnik | no understanding here - i am always in sdl-land |
| 23:43.50 | alterego | :) |
| 23:43.59 | alterego | I'll make ruby SDL bindings too ;) |
| 23:44.20 | alterego | I'm going to single handedly show those Python boyz who's boss :P |
| 23:44.30 | pupnik | hehe |
| 23:45.40 | alterego | I do have some plans for my ruby-maemo ports. |
| 23:47.48 | pupnik | i've met a couple of smart people who love ruby |
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| 23:48.09 | alterego | Yup, they sound smart. :D |
| 23:48.24 | alterego | Did you not say that earlier? |
| 23:49.17 | alterego | I think kupesoft really wants those cx3110x packet injector enabled driverz. |
| 23:49.25 | kupesoft | Yeah. |
| 23:49.25 | kupesoft | I did. |
| 23:49.27 | kupesoft | And I do. |
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| 23:50.17 | alterego | :) |
| 23:54.22 | pupnik | maybe you can organize some sponsors for development |
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| 23:55.01 | Deformati | Hmm. |
| 23:55.03 | Deformati | Didn't have time to do anything on the mailing list. |
| 23:55.08 | Deformati | I still need to get my hub and/or storage cards. |
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