| 00:00.03 | [31d1] | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJEYjelxmDw |
| 00:00.10 | [31d1] | oops |
| 00:00.33 | [31d1] | wrong window - oh well you guys'll love it too |
| 00:03.44 | Sulis | and we dooooo! |
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| 00:05.03 | Deformative | Ugh, making debian packages sucks. |
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| 00:07.46 | [31d1] | heh |
| 00:08.06 | [31d1] | thats why i only compile things i can just cp into ~/bin |
| 00:08.30 | Deformative | Heh |
| 00:08.35 | Deformative | Good idea. |
| 00:08.35 | [31d1] | Deformative: you need a copy of nvi or diff for 770 i got u dogg |
| 00:08.46 | [31d1] | nvi is really nice |
| 00:08.53 | [31d1] | better than crappy busybox vi |
| 00:09.04 | [31d1] | and not all big and wonky like vim |
| 00:09.14 | Deformative | Heh, maybe after I splice up a keyboard. |
| 00:09.30 | Deformative | I am going to try to get a cheep usb keyboard working in the usb port. |
| 00:09.45 | [31d1] | http://code.cutup.org/770 |
| 00:10.07 | [31d1] | you can afaik if you plug both things into a hub |
| 00:10.50 | Deformative | Well. |
| 00:10.57 | Deformative | You can not just plug it into a hub. |
| 00:11.10 | [31d1] | oh :/ |
| 00:11.26 | Deformative | Hubs are host/slave |
| 00:11.40 | Deformative | So you must modify the cable so that nokia is host side. |
| 00:11.46 | [31d1] | i'm happy just sshing in to do stuff, esp with a vi that redrawsthe screen right and has multiple undo |
| 00:12.00 | [31d1] | ah, interesting |
| 00:12.44 | Deformative | The purpose of a hub is because hubs supply power. |
| 00:12.56 | Deformative | Since the nokia is an unpowered usb |
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| 00:13.35 | [31d1] | hmm |
| 00:14.00 | [31d1] | man i was driving all over nj today with my new gps and 770 trying not to crash like 'oo neat' |
| 00:14.23 | Deformative | Heh. |
| 00:14.37 | Deformative | I was going to buy a BT keyboard, but the prices are outragous. |
| 00:15.03 | Deformative | I should have bought a hub though. |
| 00:15.07 | Deformative | Wasn't thinking. |
| 00:15.35 | Deformative | What folder is the path variable set on the nokia? |
| 00:16.56 | [31d1] | not to very much by default |
| 00:17.38 | Deformative | s/folder/file |
| 00:17.43 | Deformative | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.48 | [31d1] | oh |
| 00:18.15 | Deformative | profile |
| 00:18.16 | Deformative | Found it |
| 00:18.26 | [31d1] | i dunno i just set it in .profile to more stuff |
| 00:18.40 | Deformative | Where are the arrows on the key? |
| 00:18.48 | Deformative | board |
| 00:19.10 | [31d1] | one of the first things i did was brick my 770 by saying echo bash > .profile |
| 00:19.17 | [31d1] | hardware keys are arrows |
| 00:19.42 | Deformative | But you recovered it, right? |
| 00:19.47 | Deformative | Not a permanent brick. |
| 00:20.03 | Deformative | I cannot find it on the on screen keyboard |
| 00:20.06 | [31d1] | yeah i had to reflash |
| 00:20.18 | [31d1] | Deformative: yeah use the hardware arrow keys |
| 00:20.32 | Deformative | I am not sshed |
| 00:20.46 | [31d1] | yeah on the nokia |
| 00:20.51 | [31d1] | front top left area |
| 00:20.52 | Deformative | After I get some more stuff working I am going to make a backup |
| 00:21.00 | Deformative | Oh, cool. |
| 00:21.04 | Deformative | Didn't know those worked for that. |
| 00:21.20 | [31d1] | heh took me a few minutes to figure out myself so i wont lol at you |
| 00:22.58 | [31d1] | yeah i thought calling bash in .profile would be a slick way to set that as default |
| 00:23.10 | [31d1] | but it was just a slick way to prevent booting |
| 00:23.46 | Deformative | xD |
| 00:24.14 | Deformative | Need to edit like /etc/passwd or whatever |
| 00:24.24 | Deformative | For user |
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| 00:26.16 | [31d1] | it was /etc/shells according to google - i didnt try to mess with that |
| 00:26.45 | [31d1] | i also subtly screwed things up for weeks till i figured it out by editing /etc/sudoers wrong |
| 00:27.13 | [31d1] | everything still worked except application manager wouldnt start |
| 00:28.06 | [31d1] | cause i put 'user ALL = (ALL) ALL' at the bottom instead of at the top |
| 00:28.32 | Deformative | Hmm, well, I should get gdc working. |
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| 00:28.46 | [31d1] | what will that do? |
| 00:28.53 | Deformative | D compiler |
| 00:28.54 | [31d1] | (pardon my ignorance) |
| 00:28.56 | [31d1] | ah |
| 00:29.01 | Deformative | I will get gcc too |
| 00:29.11 | Deformative | Then I will have an independent device |
| 00:29.33 | [31d1] | so if i stick gcc on there i wouldnt have to futz with scratchbox? |
| 00:29.47 | Deformative | Well. |
| 00:29.51 | Deformative | You won't have the headers |
| 00:29.53 | [31d1] | i guess i might have to have a bunch of libs and stuff on there too |
| 00:29.56 | [31d1] | yeah |
| 00:30.10 | Deformative | D doesn't need the headers though. |
| 00:30.12 | Deformative | Just bindings. |
| 00:30.13 | Deformative | So |
| 00:30.15 | [31d1] | i suck so hard at anything compiled |
| 00:30.32 | Deformative | What languages do you know? |
| 00:30.33 | [31d1] | i kick anyones ass at awk tho |
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| 00:31.17 | [31d1] | i do tons of shell and awk at work so im real good with that stuff, and i play with perl, and unfortunately i know too much php to be able to not use it |
| 00:31.33 | [31d1] | and im reading a lisp book |
| 00:31.48 | Deformative | I don't know any of those. |
| 00:32.31 | Deformative | I am very fluent at D, alright at java/c, and I know the very basics of scheme and erlang |
| 00:32.42 | [31d1] | i loves me some awk, but i end up using it for stuff that i should do in perl or something, but i get yelled at at work for writing perl |
| 00:32.45 | [31d1] | :( |
| 00:33.06 | Deformative | You should try D. :) |
| 00:33.22 | [31d1] | yeah, D sounds pretty awesome from the little i've heard about it |
| 00:38.04 | [31d1] | i started programming so i could one day write audio sequencing stuff and years later i am still baffled by most of that stuff |
| 00:46.27 | pupnik | we could use a simple multitrack song-idea-sketch app for the nokia |
| 00:46.38 | pupnik | 8 bar blocks, recorded from mic |
| 00:46.59 | pupnik | fringe app though |
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| 00:51.00 | Deformative | Gdc is compiling. |
| 00:51.00 | Deformative | :) |
| 00:51.02 | Deformative | Hope it works |
| 00:52.21 | Deformative | One of the best things about D is that is compiles VERY fast. |
| 00:52.35 | Deformative | So that should be GREAT for a low power device. |
| 00:53.38 | pupnik | what fantastic app have you written under d? url pls |
| 00:53.40 | bearclaw_ | Why would you care? You rarely if not never compile stuffs while using the device on battery |
| 00:54.10 | Deformative | pupnik: I am part of yage3d.net |
| 00:55.36 | pupnik | lets hope the next tablet has opengl support |
| 00:56.11 | pupnik | i have a great game that needs optimization - 3d - all software |
| 00:56.38 | Deformative | Ugh damnit. |
| 00:56.41 | Deformative | Build error |
| 00:57.22 | pupnik | nogravity |
| 00:58.21 | Deformative | It's not that great. |
| 00:58.38 | Deformative | I haven't had a longterm project yet. |
| 00:59.42 | pupnik | this world is full of awesome things you can do |
| 00:59.56 | pupnik | opportunities all over |
| 00:59.59 | Deformative | Everything has been done. |
| 01:00.06 | pupnik | not on the tablets! |
| 01:00.10 | Deformative | Yeah |
| 01:00.13 | Deformative | That's why I got one. |
| 01:00.40 | pupnik | if anyone here doesn't have something to do, let me know. |
| 01:02.01 | pupnik | lots of heroes in this channel |
| 01:02.03 | Deformative | I am porting gdc |
| 01:02.06 | Deformative | Then I am going to make some stuff I need, followed by a top down rewrite of things I have but do not function properly |
| 01:02.19 | Deformative | Huh? |
| 01:02.35 | pupnik | that's cool. i don't understand your motivations at all. but follow your muse etc |
| 01:02.54 | Deformative | Heh |
| 01:04.37 | pupnik | i don't understand the mono and python guys either |
| 01:04.45 | pupnik | but they all enrich the platform |
| 01:05.39 | pupnik | did you get scratchbox running? |
| 01:06.06 | Deformative | I had to install ubuntu |
| 01:06.08 | Deformative | But yes. |
| 01:15.52 | [31d1] | please write midi sequencer/editor for 770 in D, pls, thx in advance |
| 01:16.41 | [31d1] | s/in D, // |
| 01:17.05 | bearclaw_ | nice feat |
| 01:18.16 | pupnik | timidity is compiled, by me and somebody else |
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| 01:19.09 | solmumaha | yay, ruby bindings seem to work fine for simple things at least |
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| 02:12.37 | Deformative | In scratchbox am I supposed to use glibc 2.5 or the one without a version number? |
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| 04:29.26 | roundeye | any got a silc client working on a 770? |
| 04:29.35 | roundeye | anyone* |
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| 04:41.59 | roundeye | anyone here? |
| 05:03.52 | roundeye | the maemo-gaim package claims to do slic but i cant not find the silc plugin anywhere |
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| 05:58.05 | pupnik | http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070730/hedges |
| 06:00.32 | bedboi | i still had no luck with that damn thread stuff |
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| 09:06.44 | roundeye | anyone here got a silc client working on a 770? |
| 09:14.00 | roundeye | anyone here? |
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| 09:21.48 | sbaturzio | Aloha! |
| 09:21.48 | _Monkey | Guten Tag, sbaturzio! |
| 09:22.00 | roundeye | hello guys |
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| 10:32.03 | ilan | hello |
| 10:35.18 | pupnik | moo |
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| 12:14.16 | rcknight | hello |
| 12:14.17 | _Monkey | hey, rcknight |
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| 12:25.37 | svu | Fatal server error: |
| 12:25.38 | svu | Caught signal 11. Server aborting |
| 12:25.41 | svu | arrgh |
| 12:25.52 | svu | Backtrace: |
| 12:25.53 | svu | 0: /usr/bin/X(xf86SigHandler+0x94) [0x10093f14] |
| 12:25.53 | svu | 1: [0x100344] |
| 12:25.53 | svu | 2: /lib/libc.so.6(cfree+0xc8) [0xf4ff138] |
| 12:25.53 | svu | 3: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libGLcore.so(_mesa_free+0x24) [0xe794814] |
| 12:28.35 | svu | oops wrong channel :) |
| 12:28.36 | svu | sorry |
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| 12:58.07 | latzko | hi |
| 13:00.00 | latzko | A gtk question: how can I tell to a GtkToggleButton not to move its image when it toggled? rc property also welcome |
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| 13:41.21 | tko | latzko: GtkButton style property IIRC, child-offset something .. although you can't really affect the bitmaps used |
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| 13:46.43 | latzko | tko, thanks I will check |
| 13:51.05 | latzko | child-displacement-x /y what I want :) tnx again |
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| 14:49.45 | alterego | Anyone know what the soft poweroff function is in the power menu? |
| 14:52.33 | alterego | Oh, instant on/off .. |
| 14:52.34 | alterego | Weird .. |
| 14:52.49 | tso | power plugged in? |
| 14:53.07 | alterego | Yes |
| 14:53.25 | alterego | Is that menu option dangerous? |
| 14:54.25 | tso | not sure what entry your refering to |
| 14:54.51 | tso | but when the power is plugged in, the device to not fully turn off, it just shuts down the desktop iirc |
| 14:55.21 | alterego | No, when I press the power button. There are now two options. "Reboot" and "Soft power off". |
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| 14:55.32 | alterego | They are there because I edited a file in /etc/systemui |
| 14:55.46 | alterego | I think the soft off has something to do with the 770's case cover. |
| 14:55.56 | alterego | So I don't think it does anything interesting on the N800 |
| 14:56.10 | alterego | I just thought the reboot function would be useful ;) |
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| 15:00.22 | wasabi | So... been wahile since I've screwed with my nokia... |
| 15:00.34 | wasabi | There a repository based distribution now, where updates are pushed without flashing? |
| 15:08.27 | tso | repositories? |
| 15:08.28 | _Monkey | repositories is probably http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php |
| 15:09.37 | tso | i think some updates can be done using repos, but i suspect it requires the app manager to be in red pill mode |
| 15:12.43 | bearclaw_ | ouch |
| 15:12.44 | bearclaw_ | pand -c 00:80:37:2E:32:D8 |
| 15:12.44 | bearclaw_ | Failed to open control socket: Protocol not supported |
| 15:12.53 | bearclaw_ | what am I missing? |
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| 15:51.43 | dick-richardson | Has anyone gotten webmin working? |
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| 16:11.04 | dick-richardson | Or can someone point me in the direction of a good iptables gui frontend? |
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| 16:21.39 | trevarthan | Is it a bad thing to have only 9M free in / on a 770? |
| 16:23.00 | TPC | well, depends on what you filled it with :P |
| 16:29.44 | dwmw2_gone | even if it is a PITA to find libglade2 for it :) |
| 16:30.29 | TPC | mmpc? |
| 16:30.49 | dwmw2_gone | http://mmpc.garage.maemo.org/ |
| 16:31.52 | TPC | ah, MPD client |
| 16:31.52 | dwmw2_gone | I gave up on setting up my N800 when I first got it; too many things were missing from the EABI repositories and I was too lazy |
| 16:31.56 | dwmw2_gone | looks a bit better now. |
| 16:32.08 | TPC | personally I just ssh in and run moc in screen :P |
| 16:32.16 | TPC | or wait, not in screen, moc has background mode |
| 16:32.29 | TPC | so it doesn't strictly require screen (but I use it anyway) |
| 16:33.18 | TPC | and pine? thats blasphemy, everyone knows that mutt is better |
| 16:33.45 | dwmw2_gone | no, really. with mouse-in-xterm enabled on a touch screen, pine really is a whole lot nicer to use than _any_ other mail client I've ever tried |
| 16:34.11 | dwmw2_gone | you never need to use the keyboard, unless you actually want to compose a mail |
| 16:34.44 | dwmw2_gone | http://david.woodhou.se/maemo-pine.html |
| 16:35.31 | dwmw2_gone | hm, that reminds me -- need gnome-ssh-askpass too |
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| 16:36.00 | TPC | is that something like ssh-agent? |
| 16:36.28 | dwmw2_gone | ssh-askpass just pops up and asks for the password/passphrase |
| 16:36.40 | dwmw2_gone | ssh uses it automatically if it has no controlling tty |
| 16:36.50 | TPC | ah |
| 16:36.54 | dwmw2_gone | you can see it in the first screenshot in the above link |
| 16:36.56 | TPC | sounds like ssh-askpass is a front end for ssh-agent then |
| 16:37.03 | TPC | since thats what ssh-agent does |
| 16:37.08 | dwmw2_gone | no |
| 16:37.14 | dwmw2_gone | ssh-agent caches keys for you |
| 16:37.25 | dwmw2_gone | not passwords/passphrases. |
| 16:37.26 | TPC | oh wait, now I see what you mean |
| 16:37.32 | dwmw2_gone | ssh-askpass is for interacting with the user |
| 16:37.36 | TPC | yeah, I get it now |
| 16:37.55 | TPC | what app do you use that uses ssh without a controling tty? |
| 16:38.01 | dwmw2_gone | evolution |
| 16:38.04 | dwmw2_gone | although not on the N800 :) |
| 16:38.10 | dwmw2_gone | pine, mutt, etc. |
| 16:38.16 | TPC | ok |
| 16:38.26 | dwmw2_gone | ssh $MAILSERVER exec imapd |
| 16:38.40 | dwmw2_gone | no need for running a separate imap dæmon and allowing password auth. |
| 16:38.50 | dwmw2_gone | and ssh can compress, too :) |
| 16:38.54 | TPC | yep |
| 16:39.14 | TPC | well, personally I would rather use ssh-agent and let it store my passphrase for a key, and just enter it once whenever I reboot the N800 |
| 16:39.21 | TPC | I think I'm gonna try to set that up |
| 16:39.36 | dwmw2_gone | yeah, I prefer to have both |
| 16:41.35 | TPC | hm.. I wonder what init script is best to start ssh-agent from |
| 16:41.47 | dwmw2_gone | was just poking |
| 16:41.57 | dwmw2_gone | needs to be in the X session startup, I think |
| 16:42.04 | TPC | probably the one that starts the window manager, but since I've only had my N800 I don't know which one that is |
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| 16:43.29 | dwmw2_gone | You could start it in /etc/X11/Xsession.d but you need its environment variables to be exported. |
| 16:45.37 | dwmw2_gone | heh. It didn't like me stopping the X server :) |
| 16:45.56 | TPC | hehe |
| 16:46.30 | suihkulokki | dwmw2_gone: the env variables session stuff are set in various scripts in /etc/osso-af-init |
| 16:46.44 | suihkulokki | warning: you might end up blind looking at them |
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| 16:49.45 | dwmw2_gone | heh |
| 16:49.57 | dwmw2_gone | cool, so a script in there which just does eval `ssh-agent` should work |
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| 16:54.05 | TPC | otherwise it seems like .profile in the user home dir gets evaluated during boot |
| 16:54.07 | TPC | found this on the wiki: |
| 16:54.13 | TPC | if [ ! -d /tmp/ssh-sockets ]; then mkdir /tmp/ssh-sockets eval `/var/lib/install/bin/ssh-agent` |
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| 16:55.39 | dwmw2_gone | hahaha |
| 16:56.24 | suihkulokki | did you go blind? |
| 16:56.25 | roope | http://www.theinternetwalk.com/index.php ... |
| 16:56.26 | TPC | well, the path is wrong for ssh-agent |
| 16:56.35 | TPC | must be an old example |
| 16:57.01 | dwmw2_gone | nah, I'm just amused at having my own instructions quoted back at me :) |
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| 17:00.56 | TPC | so you wrote that on the wiki? hehe |
| 17:01.15 | dwmw2_gone | I see there's a version of pine there too :) |
| 17:01.19 | dwmw2_gone | but it's also oabi |
| 17:02.07 | dwmw2_gone | er, I think I broke it |
| 17:02.17 | dwmw2_gone | after adding that to .profile, it no longer starts :) |
| 17:02.35 | dwmw2_gone | or maybe it's because I added a 'dwmw2' user with the same uid as 'user' |
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| 17:03.49 | TPC | well, the ssh thing worked for me, so its probably the other thing |
| 17:03.57 | dwmw2_gone | pants. I'm sure that used to work |
| 17:04.33 | dwmw2_gone | now it just seems to reboot when it should be starting the UI, after the progress bar gets to 90% |
| 17:04.42 | dwmw2_gone | is there a way to fix that other than a complete reinstall? |
| 17:05.09 | TPC | hm.. |
| 17:05.36 | TPC | while true; do ssh user@pdahost rm .profile; done |
| 17:05.48 | TPC | if you are really quick, since it starts the ssh server before it starts the UI |
| 17:05.57 | TPC | oh wait, its not the profile |
| 17:06.08 | TPC | I must be tired or something : |
| 17:06.09 | TPC | :P |
| 17:06.44 | dwmw2_gone | suppose I could grab the current filesystem with 0xFFFF, put /etc/passwd back how it was, then reflash |
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| 17:07.49 | TPC | hm.. it didn't work |
| 17:08.01 | TPC | it starts ssh-agent fine, but the environment doesn't get exported |
| 17:08.18 | dwmw2_gone | it was definitely doing: |
| 17:08.21 | dwmw2_gone | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.22 | dwmw2_gone | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.41 | TPC | yes |
| 17:08.46 | dwmw2_gone | ah, I can boot with root on mmc |
| 17:10.31 | TPC | or wait, I'm stupid |
| 17:10.33 | TPC | let me reboot again |
| 17:11.14 | TPC | I justed lowercase 'ssh' when grepping for the environment variables, but it should obviously be uppercase |
| 17:11.39 | dwmw2_gone | gr, I have to rebuild the jffs2 kernel module for little-endian support |
| 17:11.47 | dwmw2_gone | what bloody stupid person made jffs2 host-endian on the medium? |
| 17:13.27 | TPC | hm.. turns out that I was right, it doesn't export the environment |
| 17:14.45 | TPC | I should probably switch to a better file system for my flash memory too, I FAT32 at the moment, not the best one to use |
| 17:20.07 | TPC | there we go, I got it working |
| 17:20.23 | TPC | I made it write the environment to a file, which I then read from .profile every time |
| 17:20.32 | TPC | works for me at least since I only use ssh from xterm |
| 17:20.48 | TPC | but probably wouldn't work with no controlling tty |
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| 17:25.04 | TPC | hm.. what else fun can you do with ssh |
| 17:25.41 | TPC | sshfs would be nice |
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| 17:39.20 | Deformative | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.27 | Deformative | Has anyone ever had that build error? |
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| 17:48.14 | DRoBeR | Saludos |
| 17:48.19 | DRoBeR | Greetings |
| 17:52.58 | Deformative | DRoBeR: /scratchbox/compilers/cs2005q3.2-glibc-arm/bin/sbox-arm-linux-ar: libgcc/./_udivsi3.o: No such file or directory |
| 17:53.00 | Deformative | Ideas? |
| 17:53.21 | [31d1] | file is missing |
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| 17:54.30 | Deformative | Heh. |
| 17:54.50 | DRoBeR | Nope :S |
| 17:55.09 | DRoBeR | I'm still waiting for my N800 -_- I never tried Maemo or N770/800 |
| 17:55.19 | DRoBeR | 2 days left... -_- |
| 17:55.29 | Deformative | Oh. |
| 17:55.45 | Deformative | Well, I am trying to outfit my 770 to make it my laptop replacement. |
| 17:56.20 | Deformative | All I need is a keyboard and compiler. |
| 17:56.22 | Deformative | I think. |
| 17:56.27 | Deformative | Oh, and some more storage. |
| 17:57.20 | DRoBeR | mmm I can start downloading maemo tools, Don't I? :) |
| 18:00.27 | Deformative | But if I get usb working I will be able to use flash drives. |
| 18:00.28 | Deformative | :D |
| 18:00.58 | DRoBeR | My laptop is an old IBM Thinkpad 760x... everything has more power than it.. |
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| 18:12.58 | alterego | Is it possible to backup the entire flash image so I can reinstate it later as-is ? |
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| 18:21.38 | bedboi | alterego: the best thinng is to put all things on the mmc |
| 18:21.42 | bedboi | and then dual boot |
| 18:21.49 | bedboi | and work on the mmc |
| 18:21.54 | alterego | Hmm .. |
| 18:21.55 | bedboi | doing dirty things and stuff |
| 18:22.09 | bedboi | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_Partition_your_MMC_card |
| 18:22.10 | alterego | Yeah .. So it's not possible to create images from mtd devices? |
| 18:22.25 | alterego | ~the mtd devices :) |
| 18:22.35 | suihkulokki | well.. not while they are mounted |
| 18:22.48 | alterego | Obviously, I was wondering if the flasher did that .. |
| 18:22.54 | suihkulokki | but if you boot from mmc then you could just dd them (in theory) |
| 18:23.00 | suihkulokki | flasher: no |
| 18:23.29 | alterego | Hm .. |
| 18:23.40 | alterego | Well, basically I want to play with sardine |
| 18:23.52 | alterego | Is it possible to install that onto an SD card? |
| 18:24.21 | bedboi | yep |
| 18:24.23 | bedboi | of course |
| 18:24.32 | alterego | Oh, well. That solves that problem then ;) |
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| 19:04.42 | pupnik | bedboi, do you have the multiboot howto? |
| 19:06.38 | Deformative | Has anyone here done the usb power hack? |
| 19:09.58 | alterego | USB power hack? |
| 19:10.12 | alterego | You mean powered HUB? |
| 19:13.22 | Deformative | Or the injector. |
| 19:13.24 | Deformative | Either one. |
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| 19:21.33 | pupnik | soldering iron |
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| 19:25.09 | pupnik | been going for -- 6 hours now on an athlon 2800xp :/ |
| 19:27.43 | suihkulokki | imagine native compiling it |
| 19:28.48 | hircus | suihkulokki: imagine native-compiling KDE4! (it requires boost, I think) |
| 19:29.26 | pupnik | repositories? |
| 19:29.26 | _Monkey | repositories is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories and a searchable index at http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php |
| 19:30.32 | pupnik | lots of errors too :/ |
| 19:34.00 | Deformative | So no one here has done the usb hack? |
| 19:36.40 | lle2 | sure |
| 19:37.03 | Deformative | You have? |
| 19:37.24 | lle2 | I'm positive I'm not the only one |
| 19:38.26 | Deformative | Did you do the Soldered one or non? |
| 19:39.00 | lle2 | uh, it was just a modification of a Targus usb hub |
| 19:41.09 | Deformative | This one? http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.asp?sku=PA |
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| 19:43.01 | lle2 | looked like this one: http://www.targus.com/us/product_details.asp?sku=PA050U |
| 19:43.19 | lle2 | but of course it may have changed quite a bit |
| 19:43.51 | pupnik | speaking of soldering. http://lnx.manoweb.com/lirc/mids/img_3013.jpg cute lady with soldering iron |
| 19:44.29 | Deformative | Well, I am going to try this, so I am trying to get as much info as possible |
| 19:44.45 | Deformative | Did you use a battery powered or plugged in hub/ |
| 19:44.58 | Deformative | Did said hub provide upstream power? |
| 19:45.31 | lle2 | it's a powered hub |
| 19:46.18 | Deformative | Powered hubs do not always provide upstream unless I am mistaken. |
| 19:46.25 | lle2 | this one doesn't |
| 19:46.26 | Deformative | Also, battery or wall outlet? |
| 19:46.32 | lle2 | wall |
| 19:46.54 | lle2 | if I understood what you mean by upstream |
| 19:47.06 | Deformative | Well then, how did you get the nokia working? From what I understand it needs power flowing into it. |
| 19:47.27 | Deformative | Oh, I guess you can take power from one of the outlets. |
| 19:48.16 | Deformative | Can you draw an example of what you did? |
| 19:48.44 | lle2 | I think they are floating somewhere in the interweb |
| 19:49.27 | Deformative | I have read several. |
| 19:49.29 | lle2 | somebody at nokia came up with the procedure and then everybody just copied, me included |
| 19:49.35 | Deformative | But they are all different. |
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| 20:00.13 | alterego | I can't install tar, it'll remove half of my system :/ |
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| 20:03.33 | pupnik | lazy problem report insufficient for assistance |
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| 20:10.44 | dwmw2_gone | ok, pine works nicely now |
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| 20:15.52 | pupnik | if you remember, please post here |
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| 20:17.39 | alterego | You can do it with the input settings. |
| 20:17.43 | alterego | But that's global. |
| 20:17.53 | alterego | You just disable the thumb keypad. |
| 20:18.01 | alterego | Anyhow ... rsync isn't installed on my device .. |
| 20:18.11 | alterego | How am I supposed to copy meh rootfs ! |
| 20:18.54 | pupnik | boot to another partition |
| 20:19.00 | alterego | O_o |
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| 20:19.06 | pupnik | or use the rootfs duplication howto |
| 20:19.13 | alterego | Which uses rsync .. |
| 20:19.31 | Hyperion2010 | anyone know if the latest firmware has fixed issues with SD card bricking? |
| 20:20.46 | mvhtest | the latest firmware causes "bricking"... |
| 20:20.57 | Hyperion2010 | bah |
| 20:21.38 | Hyperion2010 | also, does anyone know if java for mobile phones has been ported yet? |
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| 20:22.44 | dwmw2_gone | alterego: disabling the thumb keypad doesn't suffice. |
| 20:22.54 | alterego | Hmm |
| 20:22.58 | dwmw2_gone | that disabled the thumb keypad, perhaps unsurprisingly, but the keyboard does still come up |
| 20:23.14 | dwmw2_gone | I worked it out -- to make the middle rocker button map to enter, I have to attach the bluetooth keyboard :) |
| 20:23.21 | dwmw2_gone | which is kind of suboptimal :) |
| 20:23.49 | dwmw2_gone | the virtual keyboard also pops up every time I tap on the screen in xterm |
| 20:23.50 | alterego | You can use xset |
| 20:25.51 | pupnik | building boost with g++-3.4 and gcc-3.4 is not working... |
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| 20:26.57 | Deformative | Has anyone here built gcc in scratchbox? |
| 20:27.32 | pupnik | not i |
| 20:30.56 | dwmw2_gone | hm, xset doesn't seem to be in the bt plugin any more |
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| 20:39.58 | dwmw2_gone | ok, xmodmap work |
| 20:40.11 | dwmw2_gone | still pops up when I tap on the screen, but I suppose it has to come up _some_ time :) |
| 20:40.57 | pupnik | I would have preferred a dedicated vkbd button, that just brings up a generic xkbd |
| 20:41.21 | dwmw2_gone | yeah |
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| 20:54.21 | DRoBeR | Em, I'm following http://maemo.org/development/sdks/maemo-3-x--bora-.html and when I try to install the maemo-explicit package it leaves this message "E: Package pkg-config has no installation candidate |
| 20:54.21 | DRoBeR | " |
| 20:54.24 | DRoBeR | :S |
| 20:57.31 | Deformative | What is the differences between the compilers for scratchbox? |
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| 21:04.30 | DRoBeR | I'm reading: http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2007-03-29.log.html |
| 21:04.58 | DRoBeR | but there's no solution for me, just another people who have the same problem :P |
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| 21:33.57 | dwmw2_gone | hm, is there _any_ feed on http://www.virginradio.co.uk/listen/ that actually works?# |
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| 23:06.34 | Deformative | Can the usb host mode be changed without the flasher? |
| 23:06.45 | Deformative | Isn't there some onboard utility? |
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| 23:25.43 | pupnik | on 770 or N800? |
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| 23:39.34 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.35 | pupnik | 1826220 boost86 |
| 23:39.38 | pupnik | good grief |
| 23:41.29 | Deformative | pupnik: 770 |
| 23:42.12 | pupnik | i think so |
| 23:49.21 | Deformative | So... |
| 23:49.27 | Deformative | No one has ever compiled gcc? |
| 23:49.33 | Deformative | For armel |
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