| 00:07.33 | erstazi | pupnik: can I pm you? |
| 00:08.35 | pupnik | sure |
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| 00:30.35 | pupnik | that dark blue in LS_COLORS is so unreadable on a crt |
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| 00:37.17 | dragorn | Shot in the dark - anyone know how to best handle writeable fds in gtk? gdk_input_add throws it into a CPU loop (somewhat obviously, since the socket is almost always OK for writing) |
| 00:37.35 | dragorn | Figure there might be enough gtk using people here to have a chance ;P |
| 00:38.49 | pupnik | the 3 europeans with day jobs who also chat in #maemo are asleep - good luck in the usa :) |
| 00:39.24 | dragorn | heh |
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| 00:41.16 | DaniloCesar | Where are U from pupnik? Finland? |
| 00:45.28 | DaniloCesar | Someone here uses SU 8W |
| 00:45.30 | DaniloCesar | Someone here uses SU 8W keyboard? |
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| 00:49.33 | pupnik | germany, no, i don't know |
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| 00:52.55 | dick-richardson | anyone running openvpn? |
| 00:54.26 | pupnik | yes |
| 00:55.20 | DaniloCesar | pupnik, How is your Sierra's game? |
| 00:56.08 | pupnik | DaniloCesar: freesci is getting better - adlib sound is stable, amiga sound still unstable, menus and loading still unstable |
| 00:56.41 | pupnik | xlib driver has problems sending millions of 20:38 < pupnik> ioctl(8, FIONREAD, [64]) = 0 |
| 00:56.44 | pupnik | 20:38 < pupnik> read(8, "\r\301\262\214\2\0\240\1\0\0\220\1\320\2\24\0\0\0\0\0>"..., 64) = 64 |
| 00:57.03 | pupnik | sdl driver is fairly smooth but keyboard input not working |
| 00:57.28 | DaniloCesar | Do you fix the N800 sound bug? |
| 00:58.05 | pupnik | sound should be smooth on n800 now |
| 00:58.34 | pupnik | can you test on n800? |
| 00:58.37 | DaniloCesar | nice... Where can I get your source? |
| 00:59.04 | pupnik | i will put source on the page - your request is the first |
| 00:59.29 | DaniloCesar | Yes, but I can´t test the sound now, because I´m in a college class.... |
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| 01:02.05 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/freesci_glutton_070721_maemo.tgz |
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| 01:10.28 | erstazi | what is freesci? |
| 01:10.28 | _Monkey | freesci is probably the Interpreter/Emulator for Sierra On-Line adventure games. Test and comment! 770/N800 compatible testing version here http://pupnik.de/freesci.html |
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| 01:14.51 | erstazi | nice |
| 01:36.34 | pupnik | i build a .deb of the stable branch but it has even worse performance problems |
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| 01:53.31 | unique311 | someone hildonized mtpaint.. |
| 01:53.33 | unique311 | yes |
| 01:53.52 | unique311 | called faint in the garage.... |
| 01:53.58 | unique311 | oh happy days |
| 01:55.06 | NeoStrider | I saw it |
| 01:55.11 | NeoStrider | but dont know that mtpaint |
| 01:55.13 | NeoStrider | good? |
| 01:55.17 | unique311 | no |
| 01:55.21 | unique311 | false call |
| 01:55.24 | unique311 | lol |
| 01:55.31 | unique311 | \they just compiled the danm thing.. |
| 01:56.33 | unique311 | pupnik and me messed with it, and compiled it a while back. |
| 01:57.11 | unique311 | just installed the version thats on the garage. |
| 01:57.40 | unique311 | false call... |
| 01:58.45 | NeoStrider | ok ok |
| 01:58.49 | NeoStrider | but mtpaint is good? |
| 01:59.19 | unique311 | very |
| 01:59.42 | unique311 | but i'm using mypaint right now...and find it better |
| 02:00.10 | unique311 | because of the touchscreen sensitivity it takes advantage of. |
| 02:00.48 | unique311 | make darker, wider lines by pressing harder |
| 02:02.05 | unique311 | i made this from mtpaint... http://www.flickr.com/photos/unique0nez/1091129561/ |
| 02:05.33 | unique311 | wait this one is from mtpaint http://www.flickr.com/photos/unique0nez/1199318198/ |
| 02:05.44 | unique311 | the first link is from Mypaint |
| 02:06.14 | NeoStrider | cool! |
| 02:07.16 | unique311 | mtpaint is too cluttered with stuff on the screen |
| 02:07.26 | unique311 | fullscreen could really help it out. |
| 02:08.00 | unique311 | mypaint could also be helped with fullscreen. |
| 02:08.16 | unique311 | mypaint doesn't play with the 770.. |
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| 02:13.04 | shawnlower | hey all. I killed the resolv.conf on my 770 without looking at it. Can someone tell me how it's setup -- I have the /tmp/resolv.conf.[ifname] stuff worked out, but it's not resolving. Adding "nameserver 127.0.0.1" doesn't seem to help either |
| 02:13.48 | shawnlower | I know I can add the name servers manually to /etc/resolv.conf, but I'd like it to actually work with dnsmasq, and changing networks |
| 02:15.07 | pupnik | just "nameserver 127.0.0.1" |
| 02:17.18 | shawnlower | strange. that's what I've got. it must be a dnsmasq problem. it's listening on 127.0.0.1:53, but won't reply to queries.. |
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| 02:29.00 | unique311 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pww8lqTT7Jg&mode=related&search= |
| 02:29.15 | unique311 | opengl |
| 02:31.29 | unique311 | slow |
| 02:31.42 | [1]a-l-p-h-a | http://www.flickr.com/photos/zapwizard/sets/72157600535652135/ <-- anyone ever done this? |
| 02:32.14 | pupnik | clicked on a link without a description? yeah. |
| 02:32.19 | [1]a-l-p-h-a | hahah glgears. :) wonder what fps it was. |
| 02:32.36 | artemisprime | lol |
| 02:32.42 | [1]a-l-p-h-a | pupnik, 5v USB charge mod to a nokia770. |
| 02:32.53 | pupnik | ah thnks. yeah somebody has done that. |
| 02:33.05 | unique311 | so opengl for the n800 |
| 02:33.15 | unique311 | those things were moving slow as hell |
| 02:33.30 | NeoStrider | that on a n800 |
| 02:33.34 | unique311 | watching pokylinux running on N800 now |
| 02:33.35 | pupnik | unique311: gives you an idea how powerful those gpus are |
| 02:33.38 | unique311 | yes |
| 02:33.41 | NeoStrider | there is still a need for my rendering scheme =-) |
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| 02:35.56 | unique311 | actually gives you an idea of why nokia didn't bother |
| 02:36.19 | pupnik | why? |
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| 02:36.40 | unique311 | did you see the video? |
| 02:37.02 | unique311 | slow |
| 02:37.07 | pupnik | that's not using the powerVR graphics accelerator |
| 02:37.14 | pupnik | it's rendering in software, afaict |
| 02:38.40 | [jamez01] | Anybody have advise for a n770 newb trying to install ruby on ITOS2006 v3.2006.49-2? |
| 02:38.49 | NeoStrider | there is ruby for it? |
| 02:39.04 | artemisprime | what is ruby ? |
| 02:39.11 | NeoStrider | a programming language |
| 02:39.12 | artemisprime | monkey dont know |
| 02:39.13 | artemisprime | hehe |
| 02:39.17 | artemisprime | oh |
| 02:39.18 | unique311 | going to ask the poster of the the video pupnik |
| 02:39.19 | NeoStrider | never heard of ruby on rails? |
| 02:39.24 | artemisprime | nope |
| 02:39.33 | NeoStrider | its quite popular these days |
| 02:39.49 | [jamez01] | NeoStrider: There is, but from what I can find there have been some changes to OS2006 since the armel build, making it incompatible. |
| 02:40.17 | NeoStrider | this ruby is from 2005? |
| 02:40.32 | artemisprime | i see |
| 02:40.39 | artemisprime | said the blind man |
| 02:41.06 | [jamez01] | NeoStrider: no, its built for OS2006 but they've "recently" made changes to the OS. I'm not sure how recent "recent" is. |
| 02:41.35 | artemisprime | is it a good idea to run OS2007 on the 770 ? |
| 02:41.39 | pupnik | http://sourceforge.net/projects/ogles2 there's the ogl 2.0 library |
| 02:41.41 | NeoStrider | not really |
| 02:41.48 | artemisprime | didnt think so |
| 02:41.55 | NeoStrider | [jamez01]: it 2006 3.2? |
| 02:41.59 | NeoStrider | isnt 2.2? |
| 02:42.16 | artemisprime | could it fry your device ? |
| 02:42.23 | artemisprime | or make it unbootable |
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| 02:42.29 | artemisprime | ? |
| 02:42.54 | NeoStrider | artemisprime: may happen |
| 02:42.59 | [jamez01] | artemisprime: There is a backport of 2007 for the 770, but I'm not sure where to locate it. I think via nokia's site |
| 02:43.06 | NeoStrider | artemisprime: but mostly you will miss some features |
| 02:43.36 | artemisprime | well it will be able to run all the stuff for 2007 right |
| 02:43.53 | pupnik | not all, some programs use n800 hardware |
| 02:43.53 | [jamez01] | artemisprime: I'm unsure. Have not tried it. I've had my 770 for less then a week now. |
| 02:44.26 | artemisprime | yeah.. ive had mine for about a month |
| 02:44.51 | NeoStrider | mine for a year |
| 02:44.58 | artemisprime | i guess this page is it |
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| 02:44.59 | artemisprime | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/Os2007On770 |
| 02:45.00 | NeoStrider | and Im very happy with it2006 2.2 |
| 02:45.13 | artemisprime | neo: why the old OS ? |
| 02:45.36 | pupnik | 2.2 is the latest official it2006 |
| 02:45.59 | artemisprime | i thought it was 3.2 or |
| 02:46.01 | artemisprime | something\ |
| 02:46.09 | artemisprime | anyway i have the latest too |
| 02:46.13 | artemisprime | i checked that |
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| 02:46.26 | dougb | does pidgin or gaim seem to be more stable on OS2007? |
| 02:46.48 | artemisprime | dougb: pidgin works fine for me on 2006 |
| 02:47.07 | dougb | it works for me, except i can't add IRC chat rooms |
| 02:47.13 | NeoStrider | artemisprime: thats what my users wil be running |
| 02:47.13 | artemisprime | am i the only one that doesnt have problems with pidgin on 2006 ? |
| 02:47.23 | NeoStrider | and it sufice for me |
| 02:47.32 | artemisprime | what users ? |
| 02:47.33 | NeoStrider | why would I need it2007 on 770? |
| 02:47.39 | NeoStrider | Angstron users ;-0 |
| 02:47.49 | NeoStrider | s/-0/-) |
| 02:47.51 | NeoStrider | s/-0/-)/ |
| 02:47.57 | NeoStrider | ;-) |
| 02:48.00 | artemisprime | what is angstron ? |
| 02:48.00 | _Monkey | rumour has it angstron is http://angstron.garage.maemo.org/ |
| 02:48.00 | NeoStrider | *damn* |
| 02:48.12 | artemisprime | i installed it |
| 02:48.17 | artemisprime | and it didnt run |
| 02:48.20 | NeoStrider | slow as hell, right? |
| 02:48.38 | artemisprime | just plain didnt run |
| 02:48.39 | NeoStrider | why, what,how? |
| 02:49.11 | artemisprime | dunno |
| 02:49.16 | artemisprime | didnt run for me |
| 02:49.51 | artemisprime | looks bad anyway |
| 02:50.14 | pupnik | how do you know? |
| 02:50.20 | artemisprime | screenshots |
| 02:50.21 | _Monkey | screenshots are of the OS |
| 02:50.40 | pupnik | _Monkey forget screenshots |
| 02:50.40 | _Monkey | pupnik: I forgot screenshots |
| 02:51.01 | artemisprime | dont look impressive |
| 02:51.11 | artemisprime | looks like a vector nightmare |
| 02:51.12 | artemisprime | hehe |
| 02:51.31 | pupnik | well tron has a basic look |
| 02:51.46 | artemisprime | true |
| 02:51.51 | artemisprime | heheh |
| 02:52.05 | artemisprime | so does beam rider |
| 02:52.08 | artemisprime | for coleco |
| 02:52.13 | artemisprime | that game ownz |
| 02:52.41 | pupnik | coleco intellivision? |
| 02:52.51 | artemisprime | colecovision |
| 02:53.03 | NeoStrider | ok...thanks artemisprime |
| 02:53.11 | artemisprime | neo: what ? |
| 02:53.16 | NeoStrider | ;-) |
| 02:53.26 | artemisprime | eh ? |
| 02:53.36 | NeoStrider | forget abou tit |
| 02:53.59 | artemisprime | well all im sayin is i cant get angstrom to run |
| 02:54.04 | artemisprime | and im not cryin about it |
| 02:54.05 | artemisprime | hehe |
| 02:54.12 | NeoStrider | but I am ;-) |
| 02:54.30 | artemisprime | what is the object of this game |
| 02:54.38 | artemisprime | why is it so important |
| 02:54.42 | NeoStrider | again...you're running a 770, right? |
| 02:54.47 | artemisprime | yes |
| 02:54.49 | artemisprime | indeed |
| 02:54.57 | NeoStrider | artemisprime: this is my pet project for the last 2 years |
| 02:55.04 | NeoStrider | make a viable game engine for the 770 |
| 02:55.18 | NeoStrider | i've been working tirelessly on it |
| 02:55.24 | pupnik | (3D) |
| 02:55.28 | artemisprime | i see |
| 02:55.38 | artemisprime | so angstrom is just a 3d engine right now |
| 02:55.42 | artemisprime | not a game |
| 02:55.52 | artemisprime | and its your project |
| 02:56.21 | NeoStrider | it is a game made out of a 3d game engine |
| 02:56.31 | NeoStrider | i first created the game engine |
| 02:56.34 | NeoStrider | then the game |
| 02:56.43 | NeoStrider | if you play'd armagetron, you know what to do |
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| 02:57.06 | artemisprime | i cant run it |
| 02:57.20 | NeoStrider | what happens? |
| 02:57.31 | artemisprime | absolutely nothing |
| 02:57.32 | NeoStrider | have you tried from x-terminal? |
| 02:57.35 | artemisprime | nope |
| 02:57.45 | artemisprime | id have to reinstall it |
| 02:57.52 | NeoStrider | when did you tried? |
| 02:58.02 | artemisprime | just the other day |
| 02:58.18 | artemisprime | ill try to reinstall again |
| 02:58.46 | NeoStrider | have you placed the data files on the mmc? |
| 02:59.10 | artemisprime | i downloaded |
| 02:59.15 | artemisprime | the zip and uncompressed it |
| 02:59.22 | artemisprime | then installed |
| 02:59.28 | artemisprime | but i think i deleted it |
| 02:59.38 | NeoStrider | you missed placing the "storage" folder on the mmc |
| 02:59.49 | NeoStrider | the newer version already bundles the data files on the .deb |
| 02:59.52 | NeoStrider | so it should work |
| 02:59.59 | NeoStrider | I released it last sunday |
| 03:00.28 | NeoStrider | looking back here on my 770, the engine actually performs good on a simple 3D level |
| 03:00.36 | artemisprime | im gettin on 770 now |
| 03:00.37 | NeoStrider | to some extent , I sucedded |
| 03:01.12 | NeoStrider | the problem is that angstron levels are very unoptimized |
| 03:01.25 | NeoStrider | and I do most of the optimization just-in-time |
| 03:04.32 | NeoStrider | artemisprime: you conplained about the levels being too "vectorial" . I actually enjoy that look and did that on purpose. SDL_gfx already supports texture mapping |
| 03:05.06 | artemisprime | right on |
| 03:05.17 | artemisprime | im trying to get it workin right now |
| 03:05.26 | dougb | is there a reason that UKMP will load, go to a black screen, then crash? |
| 03:05.35 | pupnik | NeoStrider is only the second person i've met who has written a 3D engine from scratch :) |
| 03:05.37 | dougb | i have an n800 with the newest OS and software |
| 03:06.20 | NeoStrider | pupnik: this is my forth game engine from scratch, and the third to do all the 3D by itself |
| 03:06.22 | artemisprime | im sure its quite impressive if i could get it to run :) |
| 03:06.30 | NeoStrider | I did some tests with OpenGL and just plain hate it |
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| 03:07.47 | NeoStrider | hey DaniloCesar |
| 03:07.57 | artemisprime | i want alpha 5 ? |
| 03:08.11 | NeoStrider | yeah |
| 03:08.15 | NeoStrider | its the newer |
| 03:08.27 | DaniloCesar | Hi Daniel |
| 03:08.29 | artemisprime | i think i had the other version before |
| 03:08.33 | NeoStrider | I just noticed some issues with it, but it will work |
| 03:08.34 | artemisprime | i had to uncompress |
| 03:08.49 | NeoStrider | the new one is just the .deb with everything inside it |
| 03:08.58 | NeoStrider | just install it and you're ready to go |
| 03:09.06 | artemisprime | awesome |
| 03:11.31 | artemisprime | ok it runs now |
| 03:11.42 | artemisprime | but it crashes itself |
| 03:11.47 | artemisprime | after it starts |
| 03:11.53 | NeoStrider | try running it from x-terminal |
| 03:11.56 | artemisprime | like after the 3 2 1 |
| 03:12.09 | artemisprime | whats the path ? |
| 03:12.15 | NeoStrider | no need for path |
| 03:12.24 | NeoStrider | just type "angstron" |
| 03:12.27 | artemisprime | k |
| 03:12.30 | Luria_ | goddamn gallery 2 |
| 03:13.48 | artemisprime | ok |
| 03:13.52 | artemisprime | it runs |
| 03:13.56 | artemisprime | no crash |
| 03:13.59 | NeoStrider | \o/ |
| 03:14.01 | NeoStrider | slow |
| 03:14.02 | artemisprime | but whats the point |
| 03:14.02 | _Monkey | the point is that it does it internally, without rubbing it into Mikho's face |
| 03:14.03 | NeoStrider | but runs |
| 03:14.14 | artemisprime | what do i do ? |
| 03:14.15 | NeoStrider | _Monkey: forget the point |
| 03:14.15 | _Monkey | NeoStrider: I forgot point |
| 03:14.27 | NeoStrider | you must enclose the other bike on your trail |
| 03:14.40 | NeoStrider | he leaves a trail too and will try to do the same with with u |
| 03:14.55 | NeoStrider | your trail is reddish, his are bluish |
| 03:15.05 | NeoStrider | you have the green "radar" to help you |
| 03:16.01 | artemisprime | i dont see any trails |
| 03:16.05 | artemisprime | this is impossible |
| 03:16.06 | artemisprime | hehe |
| 03:16.10 | NeoStrider | you're leaving it behind |
| 03:16.26 | NeoStrider | when you get close your foe, you will see it on the floor |
| 03:17.15 | artemisprime | i keep running into the purple wall |
| 03:17.54 | NeoStrider | use left and right to do a 45° turn |
| 03:17.57 | NeoStrider | sorry |
| 03:18.00 | NeoStrider | s/45/90/ |
| 03:18.32 | NeoStrider | just press left and right |
| 03:18.38 | NeoStrider | and be calm |
| 03:18.47 | pupnik | some more camera angles might help also - e.g. a more top-down one |
| 03:18.59 | NeoStrider | yeah...im working on it |
| 03:19.08 | NeoStrider | but its not that simple |
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| 03:19.41 | NeoStrider | while the BZK (the underlying engine) is a full 3D game engine, it just support XZ transformations |
| 03:19.46 | NeoStrider | so I cant look up and down |
| 03:19.48 | artemisprime | yeah |
| 03:19.54 | artemisprime | i cant see whats going on |
| 03:20.01 | artemisprime | i get the point |
| 03:20.06 | artemisprime | and nice rendering |
| 03:20.11 | NeoStrider | thx |
| 03:20.11 | artemisprime | but its unplayable |
| 03:20.22 | NeoStrider | you just need to get used to it =-) |
| 03:20.32 | NeoStrider | I play it all the time |
| 03:20.35 | artemisprime | well i wont uninstall it again |
| 03:20.36 | artemisprime | hehe |
| 03:20.40 | NeoStrider | =-) |
| 03:20.43 | artemisprime | cuz it runs now |
| 03:20.54 | artemisprime | rc4 wasnt workin |
| 03:20.56 | NeoStrider | I indeed put a sleep on the desktop version to make it play like the 770 version |
| 03:21.07 | NeoStrider | (on desktop its unplayable fast) |
| 03:21.27 | artemisprime | for debian ? |
| 03:21.35 | NeoStrider | I will produce a video tutorial very soon =-) |
| 03:21.40 | NeoStrider | yeah. made with ubuntu |
| 03:21.55 | NeoStrider | but its not on repos |
| 03:22.08 | artemisprime | oh |
| 03:22.28 | NeoStrider | and about the rendering speed, im working on it |
| 03:22.31 | NeoStrider | its too slow |
| 03:22.44 | NeoStrider | working on it RIGHT NOW |
| 03:22.44 | artemisprime | cool |
| 03:22.47 | artemisprime | hehe |
| 03:23.15 | artemisprime | i dont program |
| 03:23.22 | NeoStrider | if you want to try other levels, just type "angstron level2.bzk2" to "angstron level6.bzk2" |
| 03:23.26 | artemisprime | so i cant criticize your work |
| 03:23.31 | artemisprime | ;) |
| 03:23.34 | NeoStrider | yes you can |
| 03:23.41 | NeoStrider | you're the costumer |
| 03:23.43 | NeoStrider | my target |
| 03:24.01 | NeoStrider | ur part of the ecosystem |
| 03:24.01 | artemisprime | true |
| 03:24.04 | artemisprime | hehe |
| 03:24.09 | artemisprime | right |
| 03:24.30 | NeoStrider | not only you can, but you should |
| 03:24.50 | NeoStrider | maybe my ashtethics for vectorial looks isnt the best thing |
| 03:25.19 | erstazi | vector can be difficult for anything |
| 03:25.21 | NeoStrider | maybe I should explain more about the game before throwing the level |
| 03:25.51 | NeoStrider | I just plain love this 80ish look |
| 03:26.08 | NeoStrider | I grew playing games like that |
| 03:26.23 | NeoStrider | tempest, starfox, you know |
| 03:26.26 | artemisprime | running |
| 03:26.40 | artemisprime | angstron level2.bzk2 crashed it |
| 03:26.42 | NeoStrider | Im quite proud of level3.bzk2 and level6.bzk2 |
| 03:26.51 | NeoStrider | yes, I noticed this one. Im investigating |
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| 03:28.39 | artemisprime | level3 works |
| 03:29.01 | artemisprime | so to pass a level you must make the foe crash |
| 03:29.10 | artemisprime | kinda like 3d 2 player snake |
| 03:29.16 | NeoStrider | exactly! |
| 03:29.31 | artemisprime | but its just that i cant see my foe |
| 03:29.36 | artemisprime | thats the problem |
| 03:29.50 | NeoStrider | I indeed had some ideas of making some multilevel maps...but the render couldnt handle it well |
| 03:29.53 | artemisprime | the radar doesnt seem to help |
| 03:30.13 | NeoStrider | humm...what could be improved on the radar? |
| 03:30.51 | artemisprime | it doesnt mAKE sense tome |
| 03:31.16 | NeoStrider | well.. it doesnt show the top view of the arena, but whats ahead of you |
| 03:31.19 | NeoStrider | its like a sonar |
| 03:31.42 | artemisprime | i keep dying and i dont know why |
| 03:31.50 | artemisprime | it like all of a sudden |
| 03:31.54 | NeoStrider | but I think I noticed some bugs on it |
| 03:32.01 | NeoStrider | have you pressed "down"? |
| 03:32.16 | NeoStrider | or maybe left/right to many times repeatly? |
| 03:32.32 | artemisprime | nope |
| 03:32.34 | artemisprime | neither |
| 03:32.35 | _Monkey | neither is yahoo |
| 03:32.46 | NeoStrider | humm |
| 03:32.52 | artemisprime | should i press down ? |
| 03:32.55 | NeoStrider | no |
| 03:33.06 | NeoStrider | I should indeed stop handling that key |
| 03:33.18 | NeoStrider | it breaks the bike and makes you pass over your own trail |
| 03:33.42 | NeoStrider | have you passed over the blue trail? |
| 03:34.15 | artemisprime | wait |
| 03:34.18 | artemisprime | i get it now |
| 03:34.25 | artemisprime | i beat level 1 |
| 03:34.26 | artemisprime | hehe |
| 03:34.30 | NeoStrider | great! |
| 03:34.45 | artemisprime | gees |
| 03:34.53 | artemisprime | if it was faster that would be bad |
| 03:35.04 | NeoStrider | the trick it to avoid dying and let the foe die from his own dumbness |
| 03:35.12 | artemisprime | after i won the match |
| 03:35.16 | NeoStrider | yeah...you should see on my PC hhahahha |
| 03:35.23 | artemisprime | it returned me back to desktop |
| 03:35.28 | NeoStrider | hummm |
| 03:35.38 | NeoStrider | try "angstron level3.bzk2" |
| 03:35.45 | artemisprime | i did |
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| 03:35.59 | artemisprime | then it put me back to level 1 |
| 03:36.04 | artemisprime | after a while |
| 03:36.08 | artemisprime | then it beat level 1 |
| 03:36.13 | artemisprime | and then it crashed |
| 03:36.17 | NeoStrider | yeah...it temporaritly replaces level1 with level3 |
| 03:36.35 | NeoStrider | I will fix that tomorow in the morning |
| 03:36.38 | artemisprime | what do u mean ? |
| 03:36.49 | NeoStrider | ?? |
| 03:37.15 | artemisprime | i was playin level 3 first |
| 03:37.27 | artemisprime | then it went back to level 1 |
| 03:37.34 | NeoStrider | yes...see, there is these slots for the levels |
| 03:37.37 | artemisprime | after dying several times |
| 03:37.49 | artemisprime | how many levels are there ? |
| 03:37.58 | NeoStrider | when calling that special command line, you temporary replace it with a new level |
| 03:38.01 | NeoStrider | 7 levels |
| 03:38.17 | NeoStrider | 2 for training, 3 with regular foes and 2 bosses |
| 03:38.24 | artemisprime | gotcha |
| 03:38.31 | artemisprime | im trying 6 now |
| 03:38.38 | NeoStrider | the trainging ones get the green bike foe - a hologram |
| 03:38.47 | pupnik | i love the 'Select location' in angstron install... |
| 03:38.48 | artemisprime | no dice |
| 03:38.49 | NeoStrider | the regular biker is grey with dark gray bike |
| 03:38.54 | NeoStrider | and there is the bosses |
| 03:38.58 | artemisprime | on level6 |
| 03:39.07 | NeoStrider | pupnik: ??? |
| 03:39.15 | pupnik | just need that dialog for data files in these big ports |
| 03:39.24 | pupnik | nevermind i'll study the .deb |
| 03:39.51 | NeoStrider | pupnik: just shamelessly stole it from bomberman autotools files (MaemoWizard) |
| 03:40.18 | NeoStrider | just understood the problem with level2.bzk2 |
| 03:40.20 | NeoStrider | permissions |
| 03:40.34 | NeoStrider | I must set it again on the package and re-upload it |
| 03:40.35 | artemisprime | cant run 6 or 7 either |
| 03:40.38 | artemisprime | same as 2 |
| 03:40.47 | NeoStrider | let me try here |
| 03:41.12 | NeoStrider | probably the same thing |
| 03:41.27 | artemisprime | 4 works |
| 03:41.28 | NeoStrider | (7 doesnt exist) |
| 03:41.39 | NeoStrider | the first level is level 0 |
| 03:41.48 | artemisprime | oh |
| 03:41.51 | NeoStrider | yeah...6 is not working |
| 03:41.51 | artemisprime | i get it |
| 03:42.00 | NeoStrider | it is actually start.bzk2 |
| 03:42.16 | NeoStrider | the engine automaticly loads a start.bzk2 as a default map |
| 03:42.21 | NeoStrider | (sort of a index.html) |
| 03:42.26 | artemisprime | right |
| 03:42.33 | NeoStrider | try level5 |
| 03:42.54 | artemisprime | level5.bzk2 |
| 03:42.58 | artemisprime | ? |
| 03:42.58 | NeoStrider | yes |
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| 03:43.46 | artemisprime | work |
| 03:43.58 | NeoStrider | good |
| 03:44.02 | NeoStrider | its boss1 |
| 03:44.11 | NeoStrider | the IA is no diferent from the others yet |
| 03:44.18 | NeoStrider | but it will improve on the next release |
| 03:44.40 | artemisprime | i won |
| 03:44.45 | artemisprime | first try |
| 03:44.53 | artemisprime | nice |
| 03:45.07 | NeoStrider | cool =-) |
| 03:45.20 | NeoStrider | the "fade" efect looks good enough? |
| 03:45.30 | artemisprime | what do u mean ? |
| 03:45.42 | NeoStrider | the effect of the picture fading to black |
| 03:45.50 | NeoStrider | on my desktop it looked better |
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| 03:46.05 | artemisprime | when the game is over |
| 03:46.19 | artemisprime | yes that works |
| 03:46.23 | artemisprime | nice |
| 03:47.06 | NeoStrider | there is some issues on the SDL port of the 770 that you just see when you run the game on it |
| 03:47.23 | Luria_ | website nearly unhosed. +1 me |
| 03:47.48 | artemisprime | i dunno |
| 03:47.53 | artemisprime | i gotta hit the hay though |
| 03:48.04 | artemisprime | goodnight |
| 03:48.08 | Luria_ | now to find a radio and file that bug i promised to file |
| 03:48.19 | NeoStrider | me too |
| 03:48.23 | artemisprime | nice work neo |
| 03:48.25 | NeoStrider | thanks for you time =-) |
| 03:48.27 | artemisprime | sure |
| 03:48.28 | NeoStrider | thank you |
| 03:48.29 | artemisprime | no prob |
| 03:48.35 | artemisprime | 'night |
| 03:48.38 | NeoStrider | night |
| 03:48.42 | pupnik | the map should show the walls |
| 03:49.03 | NeoStrider | hum...ok.. I will try that tomorrow |
| 03:49.05 | Luria_ | yo Darksmurf-770, you around? |
| 03:49.16 | pupnik | well just an idea :) |
| 03:49.30 | Luria_ | no, it's now a feature request. |
| 03:49.55 | NeoStrider | got my first! \o |
| 03:50.00 | Darksmurf-770 | Yeah |
| 03:50.28 | NeoStrider | got to go |
| 03:50.30 | NeoStrider | cya! |
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| 03:51.42 | Darksmurf-770 | So weird seeing an irc chat in my hands while walking around. The thumb keyboard works well. |
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| 03:53.27 | Luria_ | Darksmurf-770, what radios did you have? |
| 03:54.10 | Luria_ | its funny, i went off looking for one, and now im leaning to getting a yaesu vx-7r... which is in the picture with the n800 on hildonham |
| 03:55.33 | Darksmurf-770 | Mostly handhelds. Vx7 was great for a tri-bander. It did 2m,6m,440mhz and low power on 220. Iirc. |
| 03:56.08 | Darksmurf-770 | I was typing that before you said that. |
| 03:56.16 | Luria_ | heh |
| 03:56.41 | Luria_ | which is the best... "version" to get |
| 03:57.18 | Luria_ | i have no intent to break any fcc laws, but i am in europe, sometimes and i hate artificial limitations... |
| 03:57.31 | Darksmurf-770 | Vx2 was a nice low power ht. For cheap single band look at the vx150. That thing is a brick. |
| 03:57.58 | Luria_ | i was looking at the 170/177 |
| 03:58.19 | Luria_ | but i hate having a bunch of sets |
| 03:58.54 | Darksmurf-770 | The uk has different band splits for repeaters. Go with the uk ver |
| 03:59.20 | Luria_ | is there a cell unblock for the vx-7r (or conversely, a 220 mod for the eu model) |
| 03:59.29 | Darksmurf-770 | Err, i misread that. Get the us. |
| 03:59.54 | Luria_ | ah |
| 04:00.18 | Darksmurf-770 | Let me get a keyboard,..brb |
| 04:00.22 | Luria_ | np |
| 04:00.29 | Luria_ | i know how you feel |
| 04:02.12 | Darksmurf-770 | ok, this is much better |
| 04:02.23 | Darksmurf-770 | USB Host mode rocks. |
| 04:02.32 | Luria_ | nice |
| 04:03.12 | [1]a-l-p-h-a | is there a nokia 770 USB host mode?? |
| 04:03.27 | Darksmurf-770 | ok. The VX7 can be modded for out of band use. It'll open up anything the hardware is capable to tx-ing on if you open it up far enough. There are other ways to make it into just a UK radio, or just USA, etc. |
| 04:03.40 | Darksmurf-770 | yeah. It works quite well. its the main reason I got the 770 |
| 04:03.48 | Darksmurf-770 | I'm using a USB keyboard right now. |
| 04:04.04 | Darksmurf-770 | It will be nice to be in class taking notes on this thing. :-) |
| 04:05.59 | Darksmurf-770 | Luria the VX7 is a great radio. It'll be the last radio you buy. That said, it does a LOT. You may think about getting another, simpler radio also. I've found that a simple radio works better in some situations (namely when volenteering, etc.) |
| 04:06.16 | Luria_ | right |
| 04:06.19 | Luria_ | but im in nyc |
| 04:06.40 | Luria_ | so id like as much versatility - |
| 04:06.46 | Darksmurf-770 | You'll love it no matter what. |
| 04:06.56 | Luria_ | cause i dont have a ton of room, space wise or band wise |
| 04:07.41 | Darksmurf-770 | It'll work very well as a 'base' radio if you put an outside antenna. I bet you'll be able to get out quite well from an apartment. |
| 04:07.47 | Darksmurf-770 | afk..gotta check the steaks... |
| 04:07.58 | Luria_ | i just seems silly to have a .5k-1ghz discriminator and then lopping off 20% |
| 04:09.15 | Darksmurf-770 | back |
| 04:09.40 | Blacksitox | dew |
| 04:09.42 | Darksmurf-770 | oh yeah, the cell block. Forgot your question about that. As far as I know there is no way around it. |
| 04:10.51 | Darksmurf-770 | It sucks because it blocks most RX on the ham 900mhz band. I've got a few motorola 900 trunking radios, but I dont have too many 900 receivers. |
| 04:11.57 | Darksmurf-770 | oh, and if you can find someone to program motorola gear you can get 2m and 70cm gear CHEAP. |
| 04:12.21 | Luria_ | so then perhaps its best to get a jap/eu model? |
| 04:13.09 | Luria_ | but those dont have 220 (out of the box at least) |
| 04:13.28 | Darksmurf-770 | I'd get the US. I gotta go, dinner is calling |
| 04:13.32 | Luria_ | k thanks |
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| 04:16.35 | dougb | Does anyone know if gparted will fix an SD card that was corrupted by an n800? |
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| 04:17.54 | Blacksitox | re |
| 04:24.23 | pupnik | yes |
| 04:24.57 | dougb | Is that directed at me? |
| 04:25.01 | pupnik | yes |
| 04:25.29 | dougb | Ok thanks! |
| 04:28.07 | erstazi | pupnik: I got response from what I believe is the lead of PocketSphinx |
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| 04:28.16 | erstazi | I sent an email |
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| 04:32.02 | pupnik | erstazi: what cpu performance does it require? |
| 04:32.16 | erstazi | mmm not sure |
| 04:32.20 | erstazi | but its minimal |
| 04:32.33 | erstazi | PocketSphinx is optimized for embedded systems |
| 04:32.38 | pupnik | nice |
| 04:32.42 | erstazi | and he said he has it working on a n800 |
| 04:32.51 | erstazi | but it needs gstreamer plug in or some sort |
| 04:33.04 | erstazi | https://cmusphinx.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cmusphinx/trunk/gst-pocketsphinx/ |
| 04:33.35 | erstazi | so I am sure that can work somehow with OS2006 |
| 04:35.06 | Luria_ | oh hot |
| 04:35.23 | Luria_ | now i can use irc when im in the bathtub |
| 04:35.55 | erstazi | haha |
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| 04:37.10 | Luria_ | i drove dougb off, apparently |
| 04:38.09 | Luria_ | the thought of me whispering and repeating sweet nothings (and then repeating, clearly) to my n800 was just too much for him. |
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| 04:57.23 | tigert | morning |
| 04:57.24 | _Monkey | aloha |
| 05:00.45 | Luria_ | _Monkey? |
| 05:00.46 | _Monkey | Luria_? |
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| 05:00.56 | Luria_ | _Monkey, _Monkey ? |
| 05:00.57 | _Monkey | i heard i was the best programmer in the whole freenode IRC right now |
| 05:03.36 | erstazi | anyone ever get this? "parsechangelog/debian: error: badly formatted trailer line, at changelog line 5" |
| 05:09.06 | erstazi | ugh |
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| 05:22.40 | zuh | Debian package tools tend to be picky about the changelog format, what does line 5 look like? |
| 05:24.21 | erstazi | zuh: I got it fixed, it was the maintainer part... not between the email and date... but before the email |
| 05:24.28 | erstazi | there were two new lines and I correct that |
| 05:25.02 | erstazi | zuh: what is the easiest way to handle 3 packages? one main package and 2 dependencies? |
| 05:25.06 | erstazi | meta-package? |
| 05:25.34 | zuh | Depends on how they relate to each other of course, and whether they are useful on their own. |
| 05:25.55 | erstazi | neither are useful on their one... one is an extension of gstreamer |
| 05:26.29 | erstazi | s/their one/their own/ |
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| 05:37.46 | Lynoure | I was given a N770, and I did not look at what was in it before flashing. After flashing it shows a tool icon, and green text (version information), then boots normally. Same on every boot. The touchscreen is also a bit unresponsive. Did something go wrong with flashing or does the green text and icon mean this was a devel version, or something? |
| 05:39.45 | derf | Green text means the device is in R&D mode. |
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| 05:40.05 | Lynoure | How does one get it out of that mode? |
| 05:40.07 | derf | You can disable R&D mode with the flasher tool. |
| 05:40.33 | Lynoure | I wish I knew how |
| 05:40.40 | derf | Run the flasher with --help |
| 05:41.25 | Lynoure | What does R&D mode do? Research and developement, but how does it affect the device? |
| 05:42.08 | derf | Mainly it prints out that text and it allows sudo gainroot to work without messing with ssh. |
| 05:42.43 | derf | I can't remember if it also shows you all the packages in the package manager like red pill mode, also. |
| 05:43.08 | Lynoure | so maybe I want to activate later, but not during the user-device honeymoon |
| 05:43.27 | derf | I run my device in R&D mode all the time. |
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| 05:44.22 | Lynoure | probably because you use it, I assume |
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| 05:47.55 | Lynoure | This baby is significantly more sluggish that the other n770, weird. |
| 05:51.41 | Lynoure | s/that/than |
| 05:52.09 | Lynoure | I notice it even when they are not side by side, but especially when they are. |
| 05:56.07 | pupnik | mhehe |
| 05:57.11 | pupnik | @ "device honeymoon" |
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| 06:07.44 | Lynoure | Do these things usually require more pressure when they get older, or it the touchscreen pressure configurable somewhere? |
| 06:08.58 | lle2 | Lynoure: the touchscreen gets wears out over time, requiring you to press harder to get the same pressure value |
| 06:09.19 | lle2 | but it shouldn't affect stylus use |
| 06:09.34 | Lynoure | here something does |
| 06:09.36 | lle2 | only finger detection |
| 06:09.52 | Lynoure | But I'm a small woman, not using much force to start with |
| 06:10.14 | lle2 | hmm, how bad is it? |
| 06:10.37 | Lynoure | if anything, actually, finger use seems more reactive |
| 06:10.51 | Lynoure | much more reactive. |
| 06:11.43 | lle2 | what about the stylus? if you try to draw a continuous line in sketch, does it break? |
| 06:11.52 | Lynoure | lle2: so bad it makes it near hateful to use with stylus... |
| 06:11.57 | Lynoure | I'll try |
| 06:12.37 | Lynoure | I should send you a screensho =) |
| 06:12.53 | Lynoure | "what line, how do I get anything on the screen" |
| 06:13.05 | lle2 | Lynoure: if you have a digicam, please take a picture |
| 06:13.11 | Lynoure | then some dots and dashes with my normal pressure |
| 06:14.34 | lle2 | Lynoure: I've seen one other touchscreen with that kind of degradation problem, it would be really good if you could send it back to Nokia for repair |
| 06:16.03 | Lynoure | I was given this one |
| 06:16.14 | Lynoure | probably no warranty left, certainly no receipt |
| 06:16.55 | lle2 | hmm, that's a 770, right? |
| 06:16.59 | Lynoure | yes |
| 06:17.29 | Lynoure | Middle part has only dots, and those only on the right hand side of the screen, top and bottom do better |
| 06:18.42 | lle2 | I'll ask the hw guys what policy we have with beyond warranty touchscreen trouble |
| 06:19.20 | lle2 | it's just that it would actually benefit us if we got our hands on that touchscreen |
| 06:19.34 | Lynoure | if I draw vertical lines, it looks like someone watering grass |
| 06:19.50 | lle2 | clearly totally broken |
| 06:20.43 | Lynoure | lle2: well, it's such pain to use that I'll let anyone get their hands on it, as long as I get it back eventually |
| 06:21.12 | Lynoure | (It's still somewhat useful as a PDF reader, that does not take much touching) |
| 06:24.34 | Lynoure | lle2: I got a non-totally blurry photo of that... I'll put it up somewhere soon |
| 06:24.51 | lle2 | Lynoure: thanks |
| 06:26.53 | Lynoure | http://lynoure.org/pict2005.jpg |
| 06:28.09 | Lynoure | I know the right side can do slightly bettet than that, the horizontal lines were non-existent only on the left, and just spotty-dashy on the right (more badly in the middle). But the photo of that got way blurry |
| 06:29.11 | lle2 | Lynoure: ok, I think this is probably partly the same issue as with n800 |
| 06:29.52 | Lynoure | If it helps someone to disect the device, I'd say go ahead :) |
| 06:30.52 | lle2 | no need for hammers and tongs yet, I'd say a simple kernel bypass surgery is enough |
| 06:31.04 | Lynoure | (I'll need to dash to work in about 4min, you can mgs me here, or reach me by lynoure@gmail.com/+35844 2770141) |
| 06:33.57 | Lynoure | or just talk to me on the channel, it'll highlight too... |
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| 06:45.31 | mk8 | Hi to all |
| 07:11.23 | pupnik | you should check out sidux if you like debian Lynoure |
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| 07:36.29 | unique311 | How do i find out which com port IR is using? on my notebook, running xp pro |
| 07:36.51 | unique311 | built in IR |
| 07:37.36 | unique311 | does built in use a com port? |
| 07:37.59 | unique311 | pretty sure thats why the signals are not being picked up. |
| 07:38.39 | unique311 | nvm |
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| 07:57.24 | tigert | wow, nice thunderstorm |
| 07:57.32 | dpb_ | indeed |
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| 07:59.11 | zuh | Hopefully it'll clear up before it's time to go home... |
| 07:59.31 | zuh | I mean it's nice to look at it, behind a window |
| 07:59.52 | tigert | yes |
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| 08:00.28 | dpb_ | Hopefully it'll clear up before I get hungry :) |
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| 08:01.29 | zuh | Fortunately I have some lunch in the fridge, no need to go out :) |
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| 08:10.00 | AD-N770 | good morning |
| 08:10.47 | keesj | Hi |
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| 08:28.02 | timelE61i | tigert: sounds like home office is dead :) |
| 08:28.39 | tigert | heh |
| 08:28.46 | tigert | timelE61i: mine works still |
| 08:28.50 | tigert | the storm is heading that way though |
| 08:30.18 | timelE61i | R&d mode enables your device to run out of battery much faster |
| 08:30.45 | timelE61i | lle: i sent you a patch a while ago, right? |
| 08:31.15 | timelE61i | luria: note that the hardware arrow keys work, unlike vkb tab |
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| 08:32.21 | sp3000 | hmm, my router seems to have two less lan ports this morning |
| 08:32.30 | timelE61i | lol |
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| 08:59.32 | pupnik_afk | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1658315558785013776 Sherry Peel Jackson and the Income Tax - 1 hr 42 min |
| 09:00.25 | sp3000 | fewer, even |
| 09:02.51 | pupnik_afk | great speech by her - i'd never seen it before |
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| 09:20.14 | lle2 | timelE61i: yeah, but it's stuck in my nokia mailbox |
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| 09:48.51 | cosmo | any ideas why apt-get update ignores my local repository? Ign file: ./ Release |
| 09:49.19 | cosmo | sources.list entry is deb file:///home/vranki/alldebs/ ./ |
| 09:49.44 | cosmo | i've built the Packages.gz with dpkg-scanpackages |
| 09:54.46 | unique311 | http://my.break.com/media/view.aspx?ContentID=332251 |
| 09:54.48 | unique311 | cool |
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| 10:35.56 | lardman | morning all |
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| 11:21.29 | greygusb | re |
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| 11:28.04 | greygusb | i love the new kagu player :) |
| 11:28.32 | Gigabites | i love it's ad2p ability |
| 11:29.11 | greygusb | yeah, mostly the working forward/backward button support :) |
| 11:29.34 | Gigabites | the new queue feature isn't bad either |
| 11:30.15 | Gigabites | but i still like the way ukmp looks and feels more |
| 11:34.53 | greygusb | queue feature? |
| 11:35.07 | greygusb | haven't seen that yet, what is it? |
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| 11:41.59 | Gigabites | * Editable playlist support: Enqueue whole album, individual song, and clear playlist buttons |
| 11:42.24 | Gigabites | new in the 1.0.6 version |
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| 11:57.30 | whaq__ | n800 is so yummy |
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| 12:01.50 | greygusb | mh, sounds nice, will have to look for it |
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| 12:03.46 | greygusb | i see, just need the new version :) |
| 12:05.48 | lardman | That a2dp is a bit of a pita isn't it, need to decode from something e.g. mp3, then re-encode to sbc |
| 12:07.43 | Gigabites | it's a total kludge, but who cares, it works |
| 12:08.09 | lardman | oh yes, would be nice on the dsp though |
| 12:08.32 | Gigabites | until nokia gets it's collective head out of it's ass and puts bluetooth profiles like it should have back in the 770, it's all we have |
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| 12:08.47 | oelewapperke | is there a mirror for maemo.org.br ? |
| 12:08.55 | lardman | what will that do to lowe cpu consumption of a2dp? |
| 12:09.32 | Gigabites | make it part of he firmware and write the correct libs to use instead of kludging it? |
| 12:09.38 | Gigabites | should do wonders |
| 12:09.51 | lardman | yeah, but that relies on Nokia writing a DSP task for it |
| 12:10.03 | Gigabites | like i said, nokia needs to do it |
| 12:10.42 | Gigabites | even just a plain bluetooth headset profile would be good for now, so peoplecan use a bt headset with skype |
| 12:10.58 | Gigabites | but noooo they leav out that |
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| 12:11.03 | lardman | :) |
| 12:11.46 | Gigabites | instead they give us a crappy cam and near useless video chat software |
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| 12:11.59 | lardman | write your won then |
| 12:12.02 | lardman | own even |
| 12:12.42 | Gigabites | like i said nokia has to do it |
| 12:13.12 | lardman | ought to do it, they don;t have to do anything |
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| 12:14.32 | Gigabites | sure they do, even a simple thing like a bluetooth profile that is available on *all* their cell phones would have been logical |
| 12:14.32 | lardman | Anyone seen a good guide to XDAIS? I'm interested to know if we can hook into the existing DSP tasks somehow |
| 12:14.49 | Gigabites | after all, it's an N series device...a consumer device |
| 12:15.56 | X-Fade_ | lardman: Some company seems to have done SBC on C55x.. |
| 12:16.01 | X-Fade_ | iWALTZ consists of Bluetooth audio (A2DP) and remote control (AVRCP) profiles, ARM9 and TI C55x DSP optimized Sub-band encoder (SBC) |
| 12:16.15 | lardman | What's stopping someone from hacking together a proof of concept then for the headset profile? |
| 12:16.28 | X-Fade_ | Not open source though :( |
| 12:16.55 | lardman | X-Fade_: yeah, it's certainly possible, just means someone needs to write an mp3 decoder and an sbc encoder all in one go |
| 12:18.02 | X-Fade_ | Yeah, that would be the best option. Having sound go through the dsp twice is not optimal.. |
| 12:18.29 | lardman | I don't know how to access the bt harware (of if it's possible), as then it would never have to come out again |
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| 12:19.09 | lardman | Ideally one would be able to stack codecs together to decode from some arbitrary format and re-encode into another (sbc in this case) |
| 12:19.21 | lardman | GStreamer on a DSP! |
| 12:19.24 | lardman | :) |
| 12:22.08 | whaq__ | Does skype on n800 work with a bluetooth headset then? |
| 12:23.07 | lardman | presumably not, I was just wondering what was stopping someone from doing a similar hack to the a2dp one to get it working |
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| 12:24.04 | Gigabites | whaq, no |
| 12:24.21 | whaq__ | argh.. hopefully on the next firmware, eh |
| 12:24.37 | Gigabites | lard, besides the fact that skype isn't open? |
| 12:24.47 | whaq__ | Nokia's developments on the n800 doesn't seem to be that transparent.. |
| 12:24.53 | Gigabites | the app has to support it |
| 12:24.59 | greygusb | hm |
| 12:25.12 | lardman | Gigabites: Ah, there is that. Will it work with anything else? Or couldnt' the audio data be intercepted? |
| 12:25.27 | greygusb | the queue feature in kagu player is really cool, just - how can i remove files from the queue or even edit it? |
| 12:26.00 | whaq__ | I think I saw a changelog of the latest kagu mentioning queue edit function.. |
| 12:26.17 | greygusb | i'm to stupid to find the button i guess |
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| 12:27.12 | Gigabites | grey, https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/ticket/94 |
| 12:28.27 | Gigabites | er ooops |
| 12:28.52 | Gigabites | that has nothing to do with what you were asking, sorry |
| 12:29.01 | greygusb | ok, then i stop wondering ;) |
| 12:29.31 | Gigabites | the author is still streamlining the playlist function |
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| 12:32.41 | greygusb | giga, sure I don't expect wonders, actually i'm more happy with kagu than with most other available players ;) |
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| 12:35.22 | erstazi | hello everyone |
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| 12:53.02 | lardman | bye |
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| 13:07.25 | erstazi | GStreamer? |
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| 13:15.34 | erstazi | _Monkey is missing ): |
| 13:20.02 | greygusb | mh, testing on maemo only gets tracked in the wiki, right? |
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| 13:28.45 | keesj | erstazi: what happend to it? |
| 13:28.53 | keesj | or her |
| 13:30.11 | erstazi | keesj: _Monkey is abot |
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| 13:30.18 | erstazi | s/abot/a bot/ |
| 13:31.11 | keesj | erstazi: that does not answer my question |
| 13:31.58 | erstazi | keesj: haha not sure, I think the owner shut down for the night/day? |
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| 13:37.23 | NeoStrider | hey folks |
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| 13:45.02 | NeoStrider | hey...how do I chmod something for all users? |
| 13:45.19 | NeoStrider | chmod +rw *.bzk2 (where do I specify it is for all users?) |
| 13:45.21 | erstazi | NeoStrider: for all users? |
| 13:45.25 | NeoStrider | yeah |
| 13:45.33 | greygusb | wgats all users ? |
| 13:45.37 | NeoStrider | I have the options owner, group, filegroup , all |
| 13:45.45 | tommim | chmod ugo+rw |
| 13:45.50 | NeoStrider | thanks |
| 13:46.03 | erstazi | tommim: I was just going to type that ahah |
| 13:46.06 | greygusb | chmod 666 |
| 13:46.07 | greygusb | ? |
| 13:46.07 | erstazi | I need to sleep |
| 13:46.08 | kulve | chmod a+rwx |
| 13:46.08 | tommim | ;) |
| 13:46.22 | NeoStrider | i did ugoa |
| 13:47.29 | NeoStrider | how do I use the octal mode? |
| 13:48.26 | NeoStrider | ok |
| 13:48.27 | NeoStrider | did it |
| 13:48.29 | NeoStrider | thanks! |
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| 15:35.08 | erstazi | wb pupnik |
| 15:36.47 | pupnik | servus |
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| 15:48.37 | alterego | Grrr .. It's so annoying how when you plug head phones in the master volume turns down >:( |
| 15:51.14 | pupnik | good safety feature imo |
| 15:51.35 | pupnik | i have good headphones and the output is enough to hurt |
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| 15:56.30 | pupnik | don't like the default vi colorscheme? comments too dark blue? in vi type :colorscheme and tab tab to go through different colorschemes for your source hilighting. i like "delek" so far |
| 15:57.32 | timelE61i | Whaq__: nokia/maemo is trying to convert from totally closed to fairly open. It's not a simple process, but complaining here is mostly insulting... Contribute where things are open. Build a positive reputation and then lobby |
| 15:58.57 | Blacksitox | re |
| 16:02.05 | pupnik | koehler is also good - control statements bright yellow is goodness |
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| 16:26.28 | whaq__ | timelE61i: I'd say my previous comment was an observation, which you've confirmed. Not a complaint, nor did I ever think of insulting the fine people who develop for the Maemo platform. |
| 16:27.06 | Emh5945 | Does anybody know how to install swfdec or gnash o |
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| 16:27.21 | Emh5945 | On the 770 |
| 16:31.52 | zuh | Emh5945: You do realize that they are not going to be fast enough to be useful? |
| 16:33.22 | Emh5945 | I know, but i just would like to try |
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| 16:34.56 | zuh | I guess you could install the SDK and compile them from sources then, I doubt anyone has made packages for them |
| 16:35.46 | Emh5945 | Sorry, i'm new, how would i do that? |
| 16:37.08 | zuh | I guess http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_2.2_Tutorial.html would be the place to start |
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| 16:40.38 | Emh5945 | Thank you |
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| 17:21.37 | pupnik | yaay fixed my onscreen buttons \o/ - one step closer to a release :) |
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| 17:22.34 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.57 | NeoStrider | pupnik: what app? |
| 17:24.15 | pupnik | Ur Quan Masters |
| 17:25.31 | pupnik | btw on angstron when i started the default level i saw no textures, then at some points i saw textures again |
| 17:25.38 | pupnik | it was pretty strange looking |
| 17:27.33 | pupnik | Beereward for me! |
| 17:28.34 | NeoStrider | it wasnt textures...it was the backdrop =-) |
| 17:28.42 | NeoStrider | sometimes the render leaves a hole |
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| 17:28.52 | NeoStrider | its somewhat normal...lots of games does that |
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| 17:30.46 | NeoStrider | if only my clipping worked, I could have a huge speed boost right now. I did some cool optimization...but the render leaves huge holes becouse I do poor man's clipping |
| 17:32.23 | NeoStrider | I must do my clipping correctly...then , angstron will do very fast... |
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| 17:40.35 | whaq__ | Do you guys read RSS on your ITs? |
| 17:40.55 | timelE61i | whaq: microb can :) |
| 17:40.58 | whaq__ | (And is the built-in RSS reader adequate for your need?) |
| 17:41.12 | whaq__ | oh really? |
| 17:41.13 | timelE61i | personally, i like google reader |
| 17:41.33 | whaq__ | can't use it offline though? |
| 17:41.40 | timelE61i | it doesn't subscribe, but it can render rss |
| 17:41.46 | whaq__ | ah okay |
| 17:41.46 | timelE61i | right |
| 17:42.07 | whaq__ | I'll check it out |
| 17:42.09 | timelE61i | but google reader at least for desktops can work offline |
| 17:42.15 | whaq__ | I've seen many recommendation about it.. |
| 17:42.23 | whaq__ | and minireader.com (or some such) |
| 17:42.28 | whaq__ | hmm |
| 17:42.34 | timelE61i | so i'd recommend reader... Portability and such |
| 17:42.47 | rik | so, how do we install perl moduiles on OS2007 R4? do we use perl -MCPAN -e shell? |
| 17:42.47 | whaq__ | Ok |
| 17:42.54 | timelE61i | consistent read state across devices... |
| 17:43.14 | timelE61i | rik: sounds reasonable |
| 17:43.16 | whaq__ | Is this one of the first app that google is preparing for their offline-web-app framework thingamajig? |
| 17:43.29 | whaq__ | Yeah, that is really appealing. |
| 17:43.39 | rik | hm |
| 17:44.03 | timelE61i | whaq: i can't speak for order, but yeah reader does offline |
| 17:44.14 | rik | can't locate CPAN.pm in @INC. |
| 17:44.18 | timelE61i | calender, docs and mail will... |
| 17:44.29 | timelE61i | rik: oops |
| 17:44.38 | whaq__ | It's gonna do wonder for N800 |
| 17:44.40 | rik | indeed. |
| 17:44.44 | whaq__ | better than JVM even |
| 17:44.47 | rik | i'm asking perl people, i ncase there's an easy colution. |
| 17:45.54 | timelE61i | iirc you can get cpan |
| 17:46.02 | timelE61i | as a tarball |
| 17:46.29 | rik | yeah |
| 17:46.34 | rik | seems ugly though. |
| 17:46.59 | rik | i'm trying to get RackMonkey or some other data centre asset management application working on my N800. |
| 17:47.12 | rik | i'm not convinced anything is going to be pretty thoug h:) |
| 17:47.55 | rik | oh hell. the cpan tarball is 11.3 meg. |
| 17:49.05 | timelE61i | don't grab it via gprs :) |
| 17:49.51 | Luria_ | avian packets. |
| 17:50.54 | timelE61i | As long as they're high capacity low cost avian carriers :) |
| 17:51.27 | Luria_ | actually, i think they need to amend that rfc... well, the latency hasn't improved, but there is an out of spec method that increases the frame size... |
| 17:51.46 | Luria_ | taping microsd cards to a bird's leg |
| 17:52.04 | Luria_ | i think they need to revisit the issue |
| 17:53.58 | Luria_ | but whatever, i'm a new yorker. im just looking to get rid of line noise... that will shit on you if you aren't careful |
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| 17:58.30 | Luria_ | timel* you there? |
| 17:59.18 | Luria_ | timelE61i, thats the one your using. |
| 17:59.53 | timelE61i | yes |
| 18:00.25 | timelE61i | having dinner w/ our team |
| 18:00.35 | timelE61i | what's up? |
| 18:01.02 | timelE61i | did you file the bug and note that the hardware keys work? |
| 18:01.58 | timelE61i | it sure sound familiar |
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| 18:04.14 | Luria_ | not yet, there was something i wanted to ask you |
| 18:04.29 | Luria_ | the case is more general than vkb tab |
| 18:05.16 | Luria_ | i.e. if you tap in a password field, and hit enter on the keyboard, for example, |
| 18:05.37 | Luria_ | and the next page loads and puts the focus in a search field, |
| 18:05.46 | timelE61i | oh wow |
| 18:05.53 | Luria_ | the search field will be treated as hidden |
| 18:06.04 | timelE61i | heh |
| 18:06.22 | Luria_ | iow, *any* means of switching focus that dont use the tap method have this problem |
| 18:06.37 | timelE61i | Tap or hardware keys |
| 18:07.09 | Luria_ | using a tap seems to be the only to get the input method to be checked |
| 18:07.27 | timelE61i | Can the reverse happen? Auto focus on password? |
| 18:07.36 | timelE61i | try the arrow keys |
| 18:07.44 | Luria_ | ok, one sec |
| 18:07.49 | timelE61i | in my testing they work |
| 18:08.04 | Luria_ | im sorry, you are right |
| 18:08.15 | Luria_ | i think dpad works |
| 18:08.47 | Luria_ | i dont know if this is a hildon input issue or a microb issue |
| 18:09.22 | timelE61i | can you retest opera? |
| 18:10.06 | Luria_ | there is an associated issue - browser focus doesnt move when you vkb tab to the password field, so often, it get stuck "under" the vkb |
| 18:11.00 | Luria_ | i suspect the two issues are related - but microb has scrolling issues of its own |
| 18:11.05 | timelE61i | yeah |
| 18:13.53 | Luria_ | btw, how do i delete selected words from the autocomplete |
| 18:14.17 | Luria_ | this is kind of a security issue... it "learned" some of my passwords :-( |
| 18:14.20 | timelE61i | i've been meaning to read the source |
| 18:14.34 | timelE61i | i'd suggest teaching it: |
| 18:14.35 | orakle | hahah |
| 18:14.39 | Luria_ | i'm not happy about that |
| 18:14.40 | orakle | yeah it learned some of mine too |
| 18:14.54 | Luria_ | right, but in xterm, thats to be expected |
| 18:14.55 | timelE61i | supercalifragilisticexpealidocious |
| 18:15.04 | timelE61i | and then doing a grep |
| 18:15.09 | Luria_ | gotcha |
| 18:15.51 | timelE61i | if you remind me when i'm at work tomorrow, i'll check |
| 18:16.09 | Luria_ | np |
| 18:16.32 | timelE61i | source access is a novel concept |
| 18:16.37 | Luria_ | oh look, it's opera, my old friend |
| 18:16.47 | Luria_ | one sec, testing |
| 18:17.22 | timelE61i | you could of course use strace on the im app |
| 18:17.27 | timelE61i | or lsof |
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| 18:17.35 | Luria_ | nope |
| 18:17.42 | Luria_ | opera is fine in every respect |
| 18:17.49 | Giuliastro | Hello, anynone knows where I can get some informations about mnotify? |
| 18:18.06 | Luria_ | focus also shifted when i hit vkb tab |
| 18:18.32 | Giuliastro | I am wondering how it sends my gmail password thru the network if it uses ssl or not.. |
| 18:19.11 | Luria_ | actually, timelE61i can i complain to you about the gmail notifier? |
| 18:19.32 | Luria_ | why does it go to http://gmail.com and not https://gmail.com |
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| 18:19.52 | Giuliastro | ok, Luria_, that was my second question. :) |
| 18:19.56 | Luria_ | i'd like to protect more than my password :-) |
| 18:19.57 | timelE61i | I don't think i know anything about it |
| 18:20.01 | timelE61i | url? |
| 18:20.17 | `0660 | i think you can conplain to anyone about it |
| 18:20.29 | Luria_ | no, its the official nokia gmail hildon status bar app |
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| 18:20.55 | `0660 | but you should consider filing a bug if you want something to happen |
| 18:21.00 | Luria_ | gmail behavior is to revert to whatever protocol you came to the login pase with |
| 18:21.04 | timelE61i | not all nokia apps are from the maemo team |
| 18:21.26 | timelE61i | if it's from tableteer, it's likely to not be ours |
| 18:21.47 | timelE61i | but i have bugzilla access for the db for one other group |
| 18:22.12 | timelE61i | send me an email w/ instructions to install and i'll figure it out |
| 18:22.36 | Luria_ | so http login -> https submit ->http mail index |
| 18:22.57 | timelE61i | Note: we've spent months trying to get tableteer.nokia.com to honor microb |
| 18:23.01 | Luria_ | if you go to http://gmail. com, https login page -> https submit ->https mail index |
| 18:23.20 | Luria_ | which is a big difference on a random 802.11 AP |
| 18:23.33 | Luria_ | i'll email you when i get a chance tonight |
| 18:23.55 | timelE61i | Yeah, i know the redirect |
| 18:24.22 | Giuliastro | I believe the handshake (login) with gmail is done thru https anyway |
| 18:24.29 | Luria_ | but, just as important, do you want me to generalize the bug, or file it with the vkb tab only and add other methods (vkb enter to load new page) |
| 18:24.30 | Giuliastro | which is the most important thing |
| 18:25.05 | timelE61i | i'm going to try again w/ the site tomorrow |
| 18:25.51 | Giuliastro | Luria_ |
| 18:25.54 | Luria_ | not grokking... |
| 18:26.01 | timelE61i | I'd say file first, generalize later |
| 18:26.14 | Luria_ | ok |
| 18:26.16 | timelE61i | site tomorrow is me re: a different bug |
| 18:27.20 | Luria_ | all right, im meeting a friend is a somewhat fruitless attempt to teach him programming. while he's reading, i'll post the bug as per your email. |
| 18:27.55 | Luria_ | ok, pizza time. |
| 18:29.37 | Luria_ | glad to see there are a bunch of ham people with ITs |
| 18:30.02 | Luria_ | hey... what happened to _monkey? |
| 18:32.15 | timelE61i | been gone at least half the day. I plan to go home and check |
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| 18:51.53 | trevarth1n | I need a good Task list for my n800. Something like Trac would be PERFECT. But I need it to be local to the n800 for when I don't have net access. Any ideas? |
| 18:53.14 | erstazi | trevarth1n: like something blue tooth to connect? |
| 18:53.23 | erstazi | ITT is down I think |
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| 18:55.53 | trevarth1n | erstazi: huh? bluetooth? |
| 18:56.00 | erstazi | I don't know |
| 18:56.04 | trevarth1n | lol |
| 18:56.08 | erstazi | just tired and blah, and I need to be on internettablettalk.com |
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| 19:08.24 | BenSw | Hi |
| 19:08.40 | BenSw | How would I go about installing python-dev... and then pyusb? |
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| 19:16.19 | BenSw | i am getting this error when i try to import pyusb |
| 19:16.21 | BenSw | ImportError: /usr/lib/libusb.so: undefined symbol: usb_resetep |
| 19:17.24 | BenSw | Can anyone help? |
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| 19:24.19 | MoRpHeUz | BenSw: maybe luck^ ... |
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| 19:28.58 | luck^ | BenSw, there instruction on how to install python2.5-dev at pymaemo.garage.maemo.org |
| 19:31.24 | luck^ | BenSw, are you trying to use this: http://pyusb.berlios.de/ |
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| 19:31.46 | BenSw | yeah |
| 19:31.50 | luck^ | I never tried, but I think you need to port to maemo first |
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| 19:42.24 | BenSw | is there a way to downgrade to python2.4.2?\ |
| 19:48.23 | Tu13es | where do I add/remove internet radio streams? i can't find it, i feel like an idiot' |
| 19:49.53 | Tu13es | hm, can add, but not delete |
| 19:51.57 | Tu13es | nm |
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| 20:14.24 | luck^ | BenSw, apt-get install package=version_number |
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| 20:19.32 | erstazi | hello everyone |
| 20:19.55 | pupnik | may your chains rest lightly upon you |
| 20:20.33 | erstazi | pupnik, good news, can I pm you? |
| 20:21.06 | pupnik | yes you can always pm me |
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| 20:25.59 | rik | hi. |
| 20:25.59 | rik | i'm having an issue installing rails on my n800. anyone got rails installed and can help me debug? |
| 20:26.30 | erstazi | rik, I would assist but I only have OS2006 (: |
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| 20:43.03 | BenSw | Why woudl i have problems with sd card detection? |
| 20:43.19 | BenSw | would* |
| 20:43.20 | BenSw | I* |
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| 20:49.12 | Blacksitox | wtf ? |
| 20:49.15 | Blacksitox | http://rafb.net/p/gNoMk020.html |
| 20:49.19 | Blacksitox | help me ! |
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| 20:55.31 | timelE61i | rafb.net/p/gNoMk020.html |
| 20:55.40 | timelE61i | canola/ahavi |
| 20:56.03 | timelE61i | not related to unzip |
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| 20:58.47 | Blacksitox | timelE61i, how solution ? |
| 20:59.21 | timelE61i | you'd need to read ahavi |
| 21:01.11 | Blacksitox | ahavi ? |
| 21:01.11 | Blacksitox | o_O |
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| 21:07.02 | pupnik | you get a program working right - then you with there was a button to press for the maemo packaging |
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| 21:17.54 | Blacksitox | timelE61i, view http://rafb.net/p/nXgddg71.html |
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| 21:30.45 | rik | is http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_createswap/ correct for OS 2007 version 4? |
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| 21:33.10 | rik | oh. no. |
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| 21:50.28 | Star | easy question for most of you i guess :/ ... is there irc software for nokia 770? |
| 21:51.59 | milhouse | itt forum is a bit sick tonight |
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| 21:53.53 | milhouse | hmmm.... whats happend to _monkey... |
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| 21:58.44 | rik | heh |
| 22:01.47 | erstazi | welcome back _Monkey |
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| 22:03.23 | Tu13es_ | is ITT down? |
| 22:03.30 | milhouse | seems to be |
| 22:03.31 | erstazi | Tu13es_: earlier it was |
| 22:03.41 | milhouse | that or it's a DoS attack - up and down |
| 22:03.46 | Tu13es | gotcha |
| 22:03.48 | erstazi | it's average ping is 148ms |
| 22:03.52 | Tu13es | I haven't been able to get there most of this afternoon |
| 22:03.58 | milhouse | could be a database issue |
| 22:04.05 | erstazi | milhouse: true on both |
| 22:04.15 | Tu13es | yeah, I think I got a db error msg earlier |
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| 22:04.17 | Tu13es | now I get nothing |
| 22:04.18 | erstazi | why would someone want to DoS attack that site, unless its automated |
| 22:04.20 | Tu13es | oh well, I won't die |
| 22:04.28 | milhouse | it just hangs |
| 22:04.37 | milhouse | Q1 owners? |
| 22:04.43 | milhouse | :) |
| 22:04.54 | milhouse | Jealous of our pocket wonder... |
| 22:04.59 | erstazi | heh |
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| 22:06.00 | sully | The g/f really got sold on the tablet this weekend. Used it for all our e-mail/browsing from the bed and breakfast we were at, plus GPS duties. |
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| 22:08.10 | Tu13es | heh |
| 22:08.14 | Tu13es | I bought a n770 on woot |
| 22:08.16 | Tu13es | loved it |
| 22:08.23 | Tu13es | gf was like "wow, that's awesome, I want it" |
| 22:08.24 | erstazi | buy.com here |
| 22:08.28 | Tu13es | so now she has it and I bought a n800 |
| 22:08.34 | erstazi | Tu13es: that is how my wife was |
| 22:08.46 | Tu13es | now she wants a n800 |
| 22:08.48 | Tu13es | heh |
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| 22:15.48 | pupnik | heh i just was using the 770 in the park again today |
| 22:15.58 | pupnik | and after 8 months of owning it |
| 22:16.00 | pupnik | i was like |
| 22:16.04 | pupnik | "This is AWESOME!" |
| 22:16.46 | pupnik | it's so slim! and SOLID! and linuxy! and bright! and hires! and pretty fast! |
| 22:19.30 | pupnik | and how is it possible that the screen got dirty many times |
| 22:19.34 | pupnik | but i see no scratches? |
| 22:19.38 | pupnik | what is that substance? |
| 22:20.55 | pupnik | in this world full of ape-humans, we should be really thankful towards the smart people |
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| 22:24.42 | sp3000 | hmm, fullscreen button crashed my browser :) |
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| 22:29.36 | sp3000 | hrm, I think I ran out of space dumping core :( |
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| 22:39.46 | milhouse | http://www.intomobile.com/2007/08/20/nokia-cto-dr-tero-ojanpera-preannounces-nokia-n95-8-gb.html <--- Tero Ojanperä talks about Nokia 770 at 22 minutes... doesn't say much very interesting other than Nokia are getting behind open source (and that "you can't develop open source inhouse" - genius). :) |
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| 22:42.18 | milhouse | hmmm... that's actually quite an old podcast! |
| 22:42.31 | milhouse | not new at all... dates from oct 2006 |
| 22:43.17 | milhouse | although it must be... he mentions the new N95 8GB phone which has only just surfaced... looks like the RSS feed details are out of whack |
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| 23:24.27 | milhouse | itt is back :) |
| 23:25.44 | GeneralAntilles | Woo |
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