| 00:00.08 | NeoStrider | unique...if there was a way, folks @ indt would already be using it |
| 00:00.12 | NeoStrider | right? |
| 00:01.24 | unique311 | maybe they never had a reason to mess with it |
| 00:01.47 | unique311 | next game |
| 00:01.52 | unique311 | blobwars |
| 00:01.59 | unique311 | already done by someone? |
| 00:03.02 | unique311 | playing it on scratchbox.. |
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| 00:04.14 | NeoStrider | unique311, they're strugling to get canola without tearing |
| 00:05.03 | NeoStrider | they did canola on SDL. I guess they would love to make it with GL. They did something on S60 (they couldnt tell me what) with SDL but then moved to GL ,as its more powerful |
| 00:05.40 | NeoStrider | do you remember keesj and his xmoto port/ |
| 00:05.41 | NeoStrider | ? |
| 00:05.46 | unique311 | no |
| 00:06.10 | NeoStrider | well the actually helped improving SDL_gfx so it could replace OpenGL on 2D graphics |
| 00:06.15 | NeoStrider | for the maemo port |
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| 00:06.58 | NeoStrider | there is something about OpenGL that I dont like (and its something I once belived too): people tend to think of it as the solution to everything |
| 00:07.28 | NeoStrider | ok...it saves lots of work? yes. But sometimes , it general nature takes performance to the ground |
| 00:07.54 | NeoStrider | If I had used GL on my game engine, I would have it finished for ages and angstron would be a past project for me |
| 00:10.03 | unique311 | done for the day... |
| 00:10.10 | unique311 | going to a going away party |
| 00:10.15 | unique311 | should be fun |
| 00:10.24 | pupnik | omg zorg would be a great name for a window system |
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| 00:10.45 | unique311 | peace |
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| 00:10.53 | pupnik | cu |
| 00:11.11 | NeoStrider | cu |
| 00:11.16 | NeoStrider | good party for ya |
| 00:11.46 | NeoStrider | zorg ? only if all the windows had 5 colors and dinossaur themed icons |
| 00:12.11 | NeoStrider | and once per execution they would unite and create a gigantic icon |
| 00:12.30 | NeoStrider | zorg is too much power-rangerish for me =-P |
| 00:12.34 | pupnik | heh |
| 00:13.21 | pupnik | is your game going to be played on a flat plane? |
| 00:13.32 | pupnik | you might not need to do true 3D |
| 00:13.47 | NeoStrider | not always |
| 00:13.56 | NeoStrider | there are some 3D arenas |
| 00:13.56 | pupnik | can get 5x the speed if you do something like Doom |
| 00:14.00 | pupnik | ok |
| 00:14.08 | NeoStrider | Doom has a very singular rendering algorithm |
| 00:14.15 | pupnik | i have studied it |
| 00:14.21 | NeoStrider | its not something you can adapt easily |
| 00:14.23 | NeoStrider | me too |
| 00:14.40 | NeoStrider | im not using ray-casting |
| 00:14.55 | NeoStrider | but some very unique portal rendering |
| 00:15.09 | NeoStrider | discreet portal rendering of some sort |
| 00:16.13 | pupnik | I'm impressed by what you've done so far |
| 00:16.16 | NeoStrider | oh...and it is full 3D, not 2.5D |
| 00:16.24 | NeoStrider | actually, is not much |
| 00:16.48 | NeoStrider | ive done it in 4 months and for about 1 year and a half im trying to correct it and make it work |
| 00:16.56 | NeoStrider | 2 years of hard work |
| 00:17.11 | NeoStrider | but the render only works 85% of the time |
| 00:17.17 | NeoStrider | im not satisfied |
| 00:17.29 | NeoStrider | angstron uses a very erratic profile of it |
| 00:18.03 | NeoStrider | if you notice, I dont have 3D polygons on the same level of the camera, otherwise the visibility order gets messed on some angles |
| 00:18.17 | NeoStrider | if I use other profile , it works, but is much slower |
| 00:18.56 | NeoStrider | but you guys have done great things too |
| 00:19.06 | NeoStrider | smw is much better than angstron |
| 00:19.14 | NeoStrider | you guys picked the right game to port |
| 00:19.50 | pupnik | unique311 found it, i just did packaging |
| 00:20.12 | pupnik | unfortunately it uses original gfx and sounds |
| 00:20.17 | pupnik | so there are copyright issues |
| 00:20.19 | NeoStrider | I took 1 full year to be able to pack the BZK to the 770 |
| 00:20.27 | NeoStrider | you did it in what? 2 days? |
| 00:20.40 | pupnik | bzk? |
| 00:21.12 | NeoStrider | the engine that angstron uses |
| 00:21.28 | NeoStrider | Ive been developing it since high school |
| 00:21.33 | NeoStrider | about 5 years ago |
| 00:21.33 | pupnik | nice |
| 00:21.41 | NeoStrider | this is the third instalment |
| 00:21.50 | pupnik | i started writing games when i was 10 :P |
| 00:21.51 | NeoStrider | the first was SDL+GL |
| 00:22.04 | NeoStrider | the second was Series60 and did poorly on 3D department |
| 00:22.09 | NeoStrider | me too |
| 00:22.10 | pupnik | wow |
| 00:22.13 | NeoStrider | how old are you? |
| 00:22.18 | pupnik | 37 |
| 00:22.21 | NeoStrider | wow! |
| 00:22.26 | NeoStrider | im only 22! |
| 00:22.47 | pupnik | so? |
| 00:22.47 | _Monkey | i guess so is joost worth getting? |
| 00:23.45 | NeoStrider | you have much more experience (is that the right term?) |
| 00:24.02 | pupnik | yes right term, no not so much experience |
| 00:24.24 | NeoStrider | my S60 engine: http://nomadsoul.files.wordpress.com/2006/10/instant5.jpg |
| 00:24.27 | pupnik | but the nokia 770 made it fun again |
| 00:24.40 | NeoStrider | yeah...a lot |
| 00:24.47 | NeoStrider | I was getting tired of it with S60 |
| 00:24.55 | NeoStrider | I was quite unhappy with SDL indeed |
| 00:25.01 | NeoStrider | this was the first BZK: http://nomadsoul.files.wordpress.com/2006/09/screenshot8.thumbnail.jpg |
| 00:25.19 | NeoStrider | and this was my first game engine ever: http://nomadsoul.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/galeria_641.thumbnail.jpg |
| 00:25.21 | NeoStrider | Qbasic! |
| 00:26.05 | NeoStrider | the nokia 770 is the best plataform for homebrew this day |
| 00:26.14 | NeoStrider | well, the N800 too ;-) |
| 00:26.28 | pupnik | or gp2x |
| 00:26.38 | NeoStrider | nah |
| 00:26.40 | pupnik | but i don't want to spend 200 euro on a games-only device |
| 00:26.44 | NeoStrider | gp2x is too weak |
| 00:27.01 | NeoStrider | not on the horse power |
| 00:27.04 | NeoStrider | but on the software side |
| 00:27.12 | pupnik | ah |
| 00:27.20 | NeoStrider | (I posted here only thumbnails: http://nomadsoul.files.wordpress.com/2006/08/galeria_641.jpg) |
| 00:27.28 | pupnik | well it is useless for most things |
| 00:28.00 | NeoStrider | yeah...and ok, 770 keypad sucks, but hey...touchscreen worth a lot |
| 00:28.07 | NeoStrider | I wouldnt trade my 770 for a PSP |
| 00:28.17 | pupnik | Nokia 770 has shown the world that a little device could do everything |
| 00:28.37 | pupnik | I will have to package UQM soon so you can see it with touchscreen buttons |
| 00:28.40 | pupnik | it's very nice now |
| 00:28.45 | NeoStrider | (http://nomadsoul.files.wordpress.com/2006/09/screenshot8.jpg) |
| 00:29.01 | NeoStrider | if you good enough to optimize stuff, you can do anything |
| 00:29.09 | NeoStrider | Doom for 770 shows this well |
| 00:29.14 | pupnik | hey what's that screenshot8? |
| 00:29.31 | NeoStrider | while the 770 cant handle quake, it can handle lots of other funny stuff too |
| 00:29.38 | NeoStrider | screenshot8 was the first BZK |
| 00:29.43 | NeoStrider | from about 5 years ago |
| 00:29.49 | pupnik | ah ok |
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| 00:33.48 | NeoStrider | what do you do for living? |
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| 00:34.21 | pupnik | my last jobs were programming, databases, administration |
| 00:34.35 | NeoStrider | and now |
| 00:34.36 | NeoStrider | ? |
| 00:34.44 | pupnik | not working :) |
| 00:35.14 | NeoStrider | better heheh |
| 00:35.29 | NeoStrider | i dont know if this is possible |
| 00:35.41 | NeoStrider | but I want to avoid corporate computing as much as possible |
| 00:36.38 | NeoStrider | I work for a public newspaper, doing a system for processing RTF files and inserting them on a database, for publishing |
| 00:36.43 | NeoStrider | and this is my limit |
| 00:37.11 | pupnik | cool, i had to do some postscript processing for faxing |
| 00:38.09 | NeoStrider | thats much cooler than database programming, right? |
| 00:38.19 | NeoStrider | formal language processing |
| 00:38.27 | NeoStrider | bakus naum forms |
| 00:38.31 | NeoStrider | etc |
| 00:38.58 | pupnik | wow. i just used regexps |
| 00:39.49 | NeoStrider | i built a huge C# system, loading XSL stylesheets |
| 00:40.05 | NeoStrider | the C# takes a RTF and convert it to a crude XML and the XSL does the hard job |
| 00:40.20 | pupnik | cool |
| 00:41.06 | NeoStrider | thats why I want to have mono running nice on my sbox |
| 00:41.22 | NeoStrider | so I can do some hildon love without C++ |
| 00:41.36 | NeoStrider | and create a nice angstron onboard level editor |
| 00:44.47 | jonnylamb | Hmm, what's a/the HTML rendering widget for use on the N800? (and in python?) |
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| 00:53.13 | Andy80_ | hi |
| 00:54.59 | pupnik | houws it goin |
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| 00:58.07 | pupnik | hi keesj |
| 00:58.09 | NeoStrider | hey keesj |
| 01:00.01 | pupnik | omg, there's a /var/lib/dpkg/status-old ... saved my ass! |
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| 01:36.50 | erstazi | Hello, is there any flash player yet for IT2006/2007 (ARM arch)? |
| 01:37.06 | pupnik | opera and mplayer |
| 01:37.45 | erstazi | pupnik, mplayer works with opera to load flash in opera? |
| 01:38.01 | pupnik | no |
| 01:40.05 | erstazi | I keep hearing that Macromedia Flash player has been ported to ARM arch but searching everywhere is no avail |
| 01:40.26 | pupnik | you want a standalone flash player? |
| 01:40.55 | erstazi | pupnik, standalone will work if embedded doesn't |
| 01:41.15 | pupnik | aha |
| 01:41.37 | pupnik | http://www.gnashdev.org/ << seen this? (open source flash player) |
| 01:42.08 | erstazi | yes I have actually, and they support ARM as well? this comes all a shock to me because the iPhone is ARM arch |
| 01:42.21 | pupnik | i don't know - might be fun to try |
| 01:43.13 | erstazi | pupnik, thank you |
| 01:43.14 | erstazi | will try |
| 01:49.34 | NeoStrider | iphone doesnt support iphone, right? |
| 01:51.11 | erstazi | NeoStrider, heh, thats funny |
| 01:51.27 | erstazi | I will be reading the wiki hard core tonight, just got this thing in the mail this morning (: |
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| 01:52.11 | NeoStrider | what the iphone is good for? |
| 01:52.22 | NeoStrider | OpenMoko is my phone of choice =-) |
| 01:54.11 | pupnik | great hardware imo |
| 01:54.18 | pupnik | 640x480 phone |
| 01:54.22 | pupnik | \o/ |
| 01:54.34 | erstazi | its a decent phone |
| 01:54.45 | erstazi | I will not go and buy one right away though |
| 01:55.06 | erstazi | I think the data plans/rates for the USA are way too expensive |
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| 02:16.14 | pupnik | i love fixing bugs going on instinct alone :) |
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| 02:38.21 | NeoStrider | one of my wishes when getting into toronto is to get one |
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| 03:02.44 | NeoStrider | angstron? |
| 03:02.45 | _Monkey | i guess angstron is http://angstron.garage.maemo.org/ |
| 03:03.21 | NeoStrider | thank you _Monkey |
| 03:03.21 | milhouse | btw, _monkey now accepts private chats for personal tuition etc. |
| 03:03.34 | NeoStrider | good to know =-D |
| 03:11.46 | erstazi | which is suggested the most? openssh or dropbear? |
| 03:11.57 | milhouse | openssh by me! :) |
| 03:12.25 | erstazi | (I might write a tutorial for this) |
| 03:12.31 | milhouse | i'd like to see dropbear got rid of... there's really little need for two applications performing the same task |
| 03:12.48 | milhouse | i find openssh the easier to install and use |
| 03:13.00 | erstazi | milhouse, exactly, I will go with openssh because of its stable and I have never used dropbear |
| 03:13.02 | milhouse | also it includes more functionality than dropbear |
| 03:13.11 | erstazi | milhouse, thank you for your input |
| 03:13.21 | milhouse | i used dropbear a long time ago, and found it more troublesome to install than openssh |
| 03:13.24 | milhouse | np |
| 03:13.42 | NeoStrider | milhouse...im filling _Monkey with funny stuff =-P |
| 03:13.53 | milhouse | nothing rude! :) |
| 03:14.17 | NeoStrider | not at all |
| 03:14.25 | erstazi | is _Monkey a bot? |
| 03:14.36 | milhouse | he is |
| 03:14.37 | NeoStrider | yeah |
| 03:14.43 | milhouse | yow |
| 03:14.47 | erstazi | I never saw a monkey as a bot (: |
| 03:14.47 | NeoStrider | _Monkey, who is NeoStrider? |
| 03:14.48 | _Monkey | NeoStrider is daft as a brush |
| 03:14.57 | NeoStrider | =-P |
| 03:15.05 | milhouse | _monkey be zippy |
| 03:15.06 | _Monkey | PIZZA!! |
| 03:15.13 | milhouse | _monkey be zippy |
| 03:15.14 | _Monkey | Either CONFESS now or we go to "PEOPLE'S COURT"!! |
| 03:15.29 | milhouse | I think _monkey is daft as a brush... |
| 03:15.45 | NeoStrider | _Monkey==NeoStrider ? |
| 03:15.55 | milhouse | _monkey be zippy |
| 03:15.56 | _Monkey | First, I'm going to give you all the ANSWERS to today's test ... So just plug in your SONY WALKMANS and relax!! |
| 03:16.17 | NeoStrider | _Monkey, you use Windows? |
| 03:16.17 | _Monkey | i don't know, neostrider |
| 03:16.18 | milhouse | some random quote thing... a bit hit & miss (mostly miss) |
| 03:17.56 | erstazi | heh |
| 03:17.58 | NeoStrider | what can he learn? |
| 03:18.23 | erstazi | well I am happy that IT2006/IT2007 is based on debian |
| 03:18.33 | erstazi | so far ARM arch debs have been flawless installs |
| 03:18.45 | erstazi | it seems to be a very good and strong community (: |
| 03:18.47 | milhouse | neostrider: anything... you teach him factoids |
| 03:19.02 | NeoStrider | <NeoStrider> _Monkey, OpenMoko is better than pizza and bananas |
| 03:19.02 | NeoStrider | <_Monkey> ...but openmoko is NeoStrider's phone of choice =-).. |
| 03:19.03 | pupnik | what interesting things have you installed from debian-arm? |
| 03:19.16 | NeoStrider | i cant help laughing |
| 03:19.30 | NeoStrider | I acidentally said this before on the channel |
| 03:19.48 | milhouse | neostrider - start a private chat with _monkey and type "help" |
| 03:24.39 | erstazi | pupnik, which one? |
| 03:24.52 | pupnik | it's a sekrit! |
| 03:24.57 | erstazi | awesome |
| 03:25.23 | erstazi | pupnik, I have only done the basics, ncurses, xterm, xchat, becomeroot, openssh, etc etc |
| 03:25.43 | pupnik | you can install a debian-arm xchat and it works? |
| 03:26.42 | erstazi | pupnik, yep |
| 03:26.52 | erstazi | like a charm |
| 03:26.58 | erstazi | I got it off maemo.org |
| 03:27.05 | pupnik | way cool |
| 03:27.18 | pupnik | oh that's not debian-arm then, but a maemo build |
| 03:27.18 | erstazi | pupnik, its nice, I like irssi but xchat is easier on my eyes on this small screen |
| 03:27.31 | erstazi | pupnik, well is based on debian |
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| 03:31.52 | pupnik | you've had enough coffee when you skin starts to crawl |
| 03:32.01 | erstazi | what are yinz favorite ARM word processor? |
| 03:32.08 | erstazi | pupnik, been there done that, then regretted it heh |
| 03:33.08 | pupnik | there's ongoing work on Abiword, can't think of anything else |
| 03:34.55 | NeoStrider | Maemopad == abiword? |
| 03:35.07 | pupnik | no maemopad is like notepad |
| 03:35.23 | erstazi | pupnik, I was hoping abiword, its light weight |
| 03:35.26 | NeoStrider | what is the maemo name for abiword? |
| 03:35.36 | NeoStrider | i know the port has a diferent name |
| 03:35.44 | erstazi | is it wise to change the user password? I already changed the root password |
| 03:35.51 | NeoStrider | "different" or diferent"? |
| 03:36.05 | NeoStrider | s/diferent"/"diferent"/ |
| 03:36.06 | erstazi | different |
| 03:36.11 | NeoStrider | thanks |
| 03:36.21 | NeoStrider | my native language is portuguese =-) |
| 03:36.27 | erstazi | english is a horrible language (: |
| 03:36.35 | NeoStrider | not actually |
| 03:36.38 | NeoStrider | is quite simple |
| 03:36.45 | NeoStrider | and it has its beauty |
| 03:36.58 | NeoStrider | its good for lame poets like me |
| 03:37.05 | erstazi | beauty haha, I think portuguese and spanish are beautiful (I took 4 years spanish) |
| 03:37.38 | erstazi | have yinz changed your user passwd? |
| 03:37.53 | pupnik | i changed user password without problems |
| 03:38.59 | erstazi | ok |
| 03:39.22 | NeoStrider | I took 4 years of spanish in school too |
| 03:39.32 | NeoStrider | I was quite good, but now I forgot everything |
| 03:40.55 | erstazi | NeoStrider, its hard to keep up on what you learned, I barely remember the verbs |
| 03:40.57 | NeoStrider | Portuguese from portugal is the most beutiful language I know |
| 03:41.12 | NeoStrider | brazillian portuguese is nice...at best |
| 03:41.19 | erstazi | NeoStrider, it is beautiful, the accent, the women,... oh shut up erstazi you are married! |
| 03:41.32 | NeoStrider | sure...I live near the sea...far from any other country |
| 03:41.37 | NeoStrider | hahahah |
| 03:42.00 | NeoStrider | the gals are nice...sure...but not what every thinks |
| 03:42.18 | erstazi | NeoStrider, of course, that goes with everywhere |
| 03:42.20 | erstazi | (: |
| 03:42.22 | NeoStrider | (at least to me...maybe gals from other places are worst heheh) |
| 03:43.44 | erstazi | NeoStrider, sometimes, the women here in my state (Pennsylvania) are hideous sometimes, but people from other areas come and drool over them... I feel like slapping them |
| 03:43.56 | NeoStrider | hahhaha |
| 03:44.06 | NeoStrider | it depends of your taste for women |
| 03:44.20 | NeoStrider | i have a very european taste |
| 03:44.21 | erstazi | exactly |
| 03:44.28 | NeoStrider | not "blondes" and stuff |
| 03:44.41 | NeoStrider | but the mignon, skinny , whity nerdy women =-P |
| 03:45.14 | NeoStrider | specially the ones with spannish blood |
| 03:45.24 | erstazi | heh |
| 03:45.27 | NeoStrider | and portuguese too |
| 03:45.40 | NeoStrider | (my blood is mostly portuguese anyway) |
| 03:45.56 | erstazi | NeoStrider, would you say that the internet tablets have good portuguese translations? |
| 03:46.40 | NeoStrider | for Brazillian people, I would say so |
| 03:46.54 | erstazi | ah |
| 03:46.57 | NeoStrider | but for portugal, I wonder how good it could be |
| 03:47.08 | NeoStrider | funny is that the tablets are not available here |
| 03:47.15 | NeoStrider | what bothering to translate it? |
| 03:47.27 | NeoStrider | I use mine in english, for concistency |
| 03:47.38 | NeoStrider | but I have used it in portuguese in the past |
| 03:48.28 | NeoStrider | I used to be part of a game development community here |
| 03:48.38 | NeoStrider | we had this great .br website |
| 03:48.51 | NeoStrider | and some portugal people indeed were among us |
| 03:49.01 | NeoStrider | they where great contributors |
| 03:49.10 | NeoStrider | I had a good friend in there |
| 03:49.15 | NeoStrider | he was good with SDL |
| 03:49.24 | NeoStrider | but we had several language clashes |
| 03:50.19 | erstazi | NeoStrider, how different is Brasilian Portuguese and Portuguese? |
| 03:50.37 | NeoStrider | more than british to american indeed |
| 03:50.42 | erstazi | are the differences like American English and British English |
| 03:50.53 | erstazi | ok |
| 03:51.01 | NeoStrider | I would say its like australian or irish english to american... |
| 03:51.28 | NeoStrider | but african portuguese to brazillian is more like british to american |
| 03:51.28 | erstazi | ok |
| 03:51.35 | erstazi | yeah |
| 03:52.01 | erstazi | I see,... etymology has always interested me, maybe I need to start studying the romance roots more (: |
| 03:52.07 | NeoStrider | me too |
| 03:52.24 | NeoStrider | I love going to wikipedia and read about the origin of the nations and languages |
| 03:52.49 | NeoStrider | there is a kind of portuguese that is so close to spanish that I had major dificulties to read "don quixote" written on this |
| 03:52.58 | NeoStrider | its where portuguese emerged |
| 03:53.01 | NeoStrider | galicia |
| 03:53.04 | erstazi | same here, I use to read encyclopedias all the time |
| 03:53.39 | erstazi | NeoStrider, have you studied the history of Portugal pre-roman? |
| 03:53.45 | NeoStrider | some |
| 03:53.58 | erstazi | even post-roman is very interesting as well |
| 03:53.59 | NeoStrider | mostly trying to understand the origin of the basque country |
| 03:54.13 | NeoStrider | the goth presence on spain |
| 03:54.24 | NeoStrider | the connection of the latin culture |
| 03:54.39 | NeoStrider | and its diferences from the anglo-saxan culture |
| 03:55.05 | NeoStrider | (btw, you guys know about the pan-american games?) |
| 03:55.15 | erstazi | NeoStrider, yes |
| 03:55.30 | NeoStrider | but there is media converage? |
| 03:55.41 | erstazi | NeoStrider, ESPN sometimes, it depends |
| 03:55.56 | NeoStrider | there was a volley game some hours ago |
| 03:55.59 | NeoStrider | USA x Brazil |
| 03:56.02 | NeoStrider | we won the gold |
| 03:56.11 | erstazi | NeoStrider, anglo-saxon culture is limited, most of that culture was faded away by Vikings and Normans (male lineage of the Normans are vikings) |
| 03:56.31 | erstazi | NeoStrider, congratulations (: |
| 03:56.34 | NeoStrider | =-) |
| 03:57.17 | erstazi | ssh is great (: |
| 03:57.20 | erstazi | I can install faster |
| 03:57.22 | NeoStrider | how diferent is the canada culture to the american culture? |
| 03:57.35 | NeoStrider | ssh'ing to the maemo box? |
| 03:57.37 | erstazi | Canada is more rural |
| 03:57.42 | erstazi | NeoStrider, yes |
| 03:58.28 | NeoStrider | canada is much more connected to the old empire...they still have the queen...right? |
| 03:58.30 | erstazi | most Canadians are very nice... I live close to the border, so I meet a lot of Canadians |
| 03:58.44 | NeoStrider | but language is diferent? |
| 03:58.45 | erstazi | NeoStrider, they are still under the monarchy of the UK |
| 03:58.57 | erstazi | NeoStrider, only small amounts of words are different |
| 03:59.07 | NeoStrider | color or colour? =-P |
| 03:59.09 | erstazi | but their accent is close to the North (of the USA) |
| 03:59.39 | erstazi | NeoStrider, that is sometimes... they pronounce some things different like "about" is pronounced "ah-boot" sometimes |
| 03:59.51 | NeoStrider | hahahha funny |
| 04:00.08 | NeoStrider | I noticed there is no canadians around #maemo...ever |
| 04:00.12 | NeoStrider | strange... |
| 04:00.17 | erstazi | NeoStrider, the differences are very small to even be noticed by a non-native speaker |
| 04:00.22 | NeoStrider | maybe they are more into winmo =-P |
| 04:00.45 | erstazi | actually, I know many Canadians that are GNU/Linux enthusiasts |
| 04:01.13 | NeoStrider | and how good is the aceptance to embedded linux in america? |
| 04:01.38 | pupnik | canada is mind-numbingly boring :) |
| 04:01.41 | erstazi | NeoStrider, its starting to change |
| 04:01.47 | erstazi | pupnik, are you from Canada? |
| 04:02.06 | pupnik | no i drove from montreal to ottowa once though |
| 04:02.15 | erstazi | pupnik, sorry to hear that (: heh |
| 04:02.16 | NeoStrider | at least they have nice girls who sing =-P |
| 04:02.27 | pupnik | oh i like canada. and both cities are beautiful imo |
| 04:02.28 | NeoStrider | shania twain |
| 04:02.40 | erstazi | sometimes, I dislike country music and most female canadian artists are country music singers |
| 04:02.53 | erstazi | pupnik, a lot of small towns, *a lot* |
| 04:02.57 | NeoStrider | im not saying about their music...only the women |
| 04:02.58 | NeoStrider | =-P |
| 04:03.08 | NeoStrider | im listening to gary numan,for god's sake =-P |
| 04:03.12 | erstazi | NeoStrider, of course, she is very beautiful |
| 04:03.38 | NeoStrider | celine dion =-o~ |
| 04:03.41 | pupnik | btw for the 100 useless lurkers here, would one of you please figure out a way to pop-up and hide matchbox-keyboard or xkbd? *thanks*! |
| 04:03.59 | NeoStrider | pupnik, direct to the point! |
| 04:04.36 | erstazi | pupnik, heh, you must be american |
| 04:04.37 | pupnik | NeoStrider: it's not too bad, since it can be done from the application |
| 04:04.41 | erstazi | what state are you located? |
| 04:04.57 | erstazi | celine dion can sing (and she is not country) |
| 04:05.01 | erstazi | very excellent singer |
| 04:05.08 | NeoStrider | pupnik, here enters DBUS! =-) |
| 04:05.17 | NeoStrider | celine dion can kill... |
| 04:05.21 | NeoStrider | or boredom =-P |
| 04:06.11 | pupnik | if someone who understands dbus can do it, i will be happy. if i have to do it myself i will do it without dbus or hildon |
| 04:06.20 | erstazi | is it http://repository.maemo.org user/non-free or http://repository.maemo.org *something else*/non-free |
| 04:06.26 | NeoStrider | you dont have to deal with *dbus* |
| 04:06.33 | NeoStrider | you can always use libshadow |
| 04:06.47 | pupnik | what is this libshadow? |
| 04:07.12 | NeoStrider | its a glueware to make SDL apps talk to dbus easier |
| 04:07.21 | NeoStrider | maemo-games-startup use it |
| 04:10.30 | NeoStrider | pupnik...c'mon...how hard is to make a vkbd in SDL? |
| 04:11.33 | NeoStrider | once you have a click-area-handler, you just have to check when ever the vkbd was evoked, and when evoked, if any tap is still on its area...if its the case, iterate through the keys |
| 04:11.56 | NeoStrider | it doesnt need to handle caps or other symbols...games dont usually have them |
| 04:12.16 | erstazi | I dislike how xterm doesn't let you backspace |
| 04:12.41 | pupnik | true NeoStrider |
| 04:12.42 | NeoStrider | how come? |
| 04:12.59 | NeoStrider | i just backspaced on my trusty 770 |
| 04:13.12 | NeoStrider | busybox v1.01 |
| 04:13.19 | NeoStrider | osso-x-terminal |
| 04:13.34 | *** join/#maemo zyxulnaga (n=alex@adsl-074-247-253-038.sip.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 04:13.50 | erstazi | NeoStrider, busybox? |
| 04:13.57 | NeoStrider | yeah |
| 04:14.04 | erstazi | I have an 770 with osso-x-terminal |
| 04:14.15 | NeoStrider | black or white background? |
| 04:14.23 | erstazi | white |
| 04:14.27 | NeoStrider | its the old |
| 04:14.33 | NeoStrider | it had some issues |
| 04:14.43 | NeoStrider | the black one, newer, its waaaay beter |
| 04:14.46 | NeoStrider | better |
| 04:14.52 | pupnik | you have the one with the unreadable courier font? |
| 04:14.54 | erstazi | so I should get the advanced one with colors |
| 04:15.07 | erstazi | pupnik, yes, I will remove it and add the newer one |
| 04:15.09 | NeoStrider | I dont know if mine support colors |
| 04:15.14 | NeoStrider | but its a complete terminal |
| 04:15.51 | erstazi | BusyBox v1.01 (Debian 3:1.01-4.osso12) Built-in shell (ash) |
| 04:16.10 | NeoStrider | busybox is a common component of maemo |
| 04:16.17 | NeoStrider | osso-x-terminal just interfaces it |
| 04:16.27 | erstazi | ok |
| 04:16.30 | NeoStrider | just like gnome-terminal or xterminal would do it |
| 04:16.51 | pupnik | NeoStrider: there are two programs, links2 and cow, that don't use sdl, for which i also want keyboard |
| 04:16.56 | NeoStrider | checkout busybox...it has some handy tools builtin |
| 04:17.00 | pupnik | but otherwise an internal sdl-vkbd would be ok |
| 04:17.18 | NeoStrider | links2, you mean that fb version? |
| 04:17.44 | pupnik | the browser, it's xlib based i think |
| 04:18.00 | NeoStrider | cool!!!! |
| 04:18.07 | NeoStrider | they ported it! |
| 04:18.13 | NeoStrider | links rocks! |
| 04:18.24 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/links2.html |
| 04:19.41 | erstazi | nice pupnik |
| 04:19.49 | erstazi | I will use that instead of links |
| 04:20.04 | erstazi | I was hoping for a lynx version so I could just scroll through with the selector on the left |
| 04:20.09 | erstazi | but I haven't looked yet |
| 04:20.19 | NeoStrider | still...you wont be using elinks for dandy stuff |
| 04:20.40 | NeoStrider | for everything else, a case-insensitive vkbd would do the tirck |
| 04:20.49 | NeoStrider | s/tirck/trick/ |
| 04:23.17 | *** join/#maemo vudentz (n=dentz@20150131139.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 04:23.49 | NeoStrider | 3D programming ,sometimes, sucks... |
| 04:24.03 | NeoStrider | my portals are jamming |
| 04:25.05 | erstazi | you guys mean osso-xterm 0.13.mh19? |
| 04:25.17 | NeoStrider | angstron currently has 4 levels...I cant design anything better than those otherwise it would look buggy with the current render |
| 04:25.25 | NeoStrider | idont really know |
| 04:25.34 | NeoStrider | I have this for such a long time... |
| 04:25.36 | NeoStrider | let me check |
| 04:26.23 | erstazi | NeoStrider, thank you for checking (: |
| 04:26.47 | NeoStrider | 0.13.mh24 |
| 04:27.00 | NeoStrider | 24 in brazil means "fag" |
| 04:27.01 | NeoStrider | =-P |
| 04:27.28 | NeoStrider | anything 24 related is followed with mockery |
| 04:27.37 | erstazi | heh |
| 04:28.28 | erstazi | osso-xterm 0.13.mh19 is very nice |
| 04:28.33 | erstazi | much better |
| 04:28.34 | NeoStrider | most stuff on my Application manager has version like 0.X |
| 04:28.55 | NeoStrider | whats wrong with these OS/FS ppl? |
| 04:29.24 | erstazi | NeoStrider, alpha/betas heh |
| 04:30.23 | NeoStrider | why having versions then? |
| 04:30.30 | *** join/#maemo rkaway (n=timj@e176208175.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 04:30.35 | NeoStrider | linus has some random jumps now and then |
| 04:30.49 | NeoStrider | names like "bora" and "mistral" makes much more sense |
| 04:30.52 | NeoStrider | or OS2005 |
| 04:31.02 | NeoStrider | why not? GaimJune2003? |
| 04:32.06 | erstazi | heh |
| 04:32.15 | erstazi | gaim is gone |
| 04:32.28 | erstazi | I think pidgin is I don't know, blah |
| 04:32.31 | NeoStrider | not only stablishes a commitment of releasing stable monthly releases |
| 04:32.33 | NeoStrider | yes |
| 04:32.36 | NeoStrider | pidgin |
| 04:32.37 | _Monkey | pidgin is, like, I don't know, blah |
| 04:32.41 | NeoStrider | much coller icon, indeed |
| 04:32.57 | NeoStrider | _Monkey, pidgin is actually good |
| 04:32.59 | _Monkey | ...but pidgin is I don't know, blah... |
| 04:32.59 | wumpus | ooh need to see that |
| 04:33.00 | NeoStrider | (=-P) |
| 04:33.07 | wumpus | I never liked the gaim icon |
| 04:33.12 | NeoStrider | yeah, me too |
| 04:33.24 | NeoStrider | too...I don't know, blah... |
| 04:34.24 | NeoStrider | the new icon is a purple pidgeon |
| 04:34.29 | NeoStrider | very nice indeed |
| 04:35.02 | wumpus | cool :D |
| 04:35.06 | wumpus | I see it now |
| 04:35.23 | wumpus | nicely done indeed |
| 04:35.45 | NeoStrider | OS/FS need better icons like that |
| 04:35.56 | erstazi | NeoStrider, agreed |
| 04:36.12 | pupnik | who was asking about an RPG? http://pupnik.de/sekrit3.jpg |
| 04:36.41 | NeoStrider | betrayal at <insert a funny name here>!!! |
| 04:36.50 | pupnik | ding! |
| 04:36.57 | pupnik | should be doable also |
| 04:37.25 | NeoStrider | I would love to port Marathon 2 |
| 04:37.34 | NeoStrider | but it would have lots of usability issues |
| 04:37.46 | erstazi | pupnik, I was thank you for adding that screen shot to your site |
| 04:37.48 | pupnik | was that an apple game like doom? |
| 04:38.28 | pupnik | erstazi: you should check out http://pupnik.de/exult770.html if you like oldschool RPGs |
| 04:38.46 | wumpus | well yeah the quality of the graphics in OS has increased a lot last few years, seems distributions like ubuntu are going really for looks |
| 04:38.58 | erstazi | pupnik, I might RS-MMC is very inexpensive |
| 04:39.27 | wumpus | I have all the eye candy on, including wobbly windows |
| 04:39.28 | erstazi | I agree, from the early days of slackware to ubuntu, graphics have taken a turn |
| 04:39.33 | NeoStrider | yes pupnik |
| 04:39.35 | erstazi | wumpus, KDE? |
| 04:39.44 | NeoStrider | but is much mure like...hum...hexen |
| 04:39.50 | wumpus | ubuntu (gnome) |
| 04:39.55 | NeoStrider | but with futuristic theme |
| 04:40.06 | erstazi | wumpus, I use both ubuntu and kubuntu. |
| 04:40.22 | erstazi | I like XFCE for older computers but I don't use them, kids do, so xubuntu as well |
| 04:40.23 | NeoStrider | KDE is so...I don't know, blah ... |
| 04:40.27 | wumpus | with the how is it called, xrender based window manager |
| 04:40.36 | erstazi | NeoStrider, it is, its very graphical and I dislike that |
| 04:40.46 | NeoStrider | i use gnome |
| 04:40.50 | NeoStrider | it rocks |
| 04:40.56 | erstazi | I use GNOME primarily |
| 04:41.00 | NeoStrider | but I also like blackbox and window maker |
| 04:41.02 | erstazi | the kubuntu is on my wife's computer |
| 04:41.06 | NeoStrider | window maker = Brazillian \o/ |
| 04:41.12 | erstazi | (: |
| 04:41.40 | erstazi | NeoStrider, where in Brasil are you? |
| 04:41.55 | NeoStrider | unfortunatly, my machine is the only penguin-in-a-box here... |
| 04:42.03 | NeoStrider | Niterói,Rio de Janeiro |
| 04:42.06 | erstazi | nice |
| 04:42.22 | wumpus | I used window maker on my 486 in 1998 or so |
| 04:42.27 | wumpus | didn't know it even existed still :) |
| 04:42.40 | NeoStrider | (ofcourse there is my motorola cable modem and my dlink router ...and the 770) |
| 04:42.53 | wumpus | was my first experience with linux, under slackware |
| 04:43.00 | erstazi | same here |
| 04:43.03 | erstazi | my brother installed it |
| 04:43.06 | NeoStrider | mine was a slack boot disk...cli |
| 04:43.19 | NeoStrider | on a hd-less old 486 notebook |
| 04:43.23 | erstazi | then mandrake |
| 04:43.25 | NeoStrider | back in 2000 |
| 04:43.29 | wumpus | I hated kde back then |
| 04:43.33 | NeoStrider | hhahah |
| 04:43.36 | NeoStrider | i used to love kde |
| 04:43.40 | wumpus | but then again it sucked then |
| 04:43.47 | NeoStrider | back when I used "kurumin" (a knoppix based ) |
| 04:43.48 | wumpus | now it's really good, and gnome too |
| 04:43.59 | erstazi | I use CentOS on my server |
| 04:44.27 | erstazi | I sometimes put Damn Small Linux on older computers, it just works wonders.. so does Puppy |
| 04:44.38 | NeoStrider | i used DSL a lot recently |
| 04:44.41 | NeoStrider | I even remastered it |
| 04:44.45 | erstazi | oh yeah? |
| 04:44.45 | _Monkey | yeah is there a map that kinda puts all that into a table so people new to the maemo scene have an easier time of it? :) |
| 04:44.54 | NeoStrider | sure |
| 04:45.06 | NeoStrider | i even wrote a small tutorial on remastering (pt_Br) |
| 04:45.19 | erstazi | NeoStrider, what were the main points of remastering it? |
| 04:45.35 | NeoStrider | including some handy tools on the liveCD |
| 04:45.56 | erstazi | nice |
| 04:46.01 | NeoStrider | so if you're a sysadmin with very specific needs, you can always pop a Cd and you're ready to go |
| 04:46.10 | NeoStrider | on my case , was for a information kiosk |
| 04:46.14 | erstazi | exactly, I use the live cd all the time |
| 04:46.20 | NeoStrider | they had this SDL app and wanted only it to run |
| 04:46.23 | erstazi | mainly to test hardware configs |
| 04:46.23 | NeoStrider | and nothing else |
| 04:46.28 | NeoStrider | so I cleaned the house |
| 04:48.29 | erstazi | pupnik, are you Arnim right? |
| 04:48.35 | erstazi | thanks for the links2 |
| 04:49.02 | NeoStrider | real names here?! my eyes!!! my eyes are burning! |
| 04:49.08 | pupnik | ja |
| 04:49.41 | pupnik | heh |
| 04:52.02 | pupnik | are you using multiboot NeoStrider ? |
| 04:52.26 | NeoStrider | yeah |
| 04:52.36 | NeoStrider | dell gave a nice nice windows xp sp2 |
| 04:52.38 | erstazi | I am sorry, pupnik, did that offend you by using your name? |
| 04:52.41 | NeoStrider | im so thankful! |
| 04:52.57 | pupnik | no |
| 04:53.21 | pupnik | just tired |
| 04:53.44 | NeoStrider | 2 AM here |
| 04:53.48 | NeoStrider | and for you guys? |
| 04:53.56 | pupnik | 7 |
| 04:53.57 | NeoStrider | god save cout and the queen |
| 04:54.05 | NeoStrider | cout saved the day |
| 04:54.12 | NeoStrider | rendering improved |
| 04:54.21 | NeoStrider | 7 AM? |
| 04:54.30 | pupnik | Sun Jul 29 06:50:45 CEST 2007 |
| 04:54.47 | NeoStrider | go to bed, naughty boy! |
| 04:55.14 | NeoStrider | (gosh...its cold here! 15° C!) |
| 04:55.19 | erstazi | its 0100 here |
| 04:55.34 | NeoStrider | 100 F? |
| 04:55.40 | erstazi | 1:00 am |
| 04:55.43 | NeoStrider | ahh |
| 04:55.44 | NeoStrider | =-P |
| 04:55.49 | NeoStrider | close |
| 04:55.52 | erstazi | it was 33c here |
| 04:56.00 | NeoStrider | and Brazil is hot =-P |
| 04:58.12 | NeoStrider | if you could choose a game...any game, to have on the 770/n800, what would it be? |
| 04:58.13 | pupnik | you know what's a bad typo? when you want to type rm -R usr and type rm -R /usr |
| 04:58.16 | pupnik | that's a bad typo |
| 04:58.23 | NeoStrider | hahahhahahaha |
| 04:58.23 | pupnik | realistic? |
| 04:58.29 | NeoStrider | no...ANY |
| 04:59.13 | pupnik | i managed to recover this pc without a /usr/bin or most of /usr/lib without rebooting/reinstalling though :P |
| 04:59.24 | pupnik | couldn't start any new processes :) |
| 04:59.50 | NeoStrider | how? |
| 05:00.36 | NeoStrider | but a terminal child process could be spawned? |
| 05:01.18 | pupnik | have a 2nd pc with same OS. set up a webserver - downloaded libs and bins needed for scp, then scp'd /usr/bin and lib over |
| 05:01.42 | pupnik | still finding some version mismatches but it's basically ok again |
| 05:02.02 | NeoStrider | ahhh |
| 05:02.13 | NeoStrider | 'cp' is child process from the shell |
| 05:02.19 | NeoStrider | there is a fork() call |
| 05:02.24 | NeoStrider | and a exec |
| 05:03.12 | NeoStrider | but this is built in the kernel anyway |
| 05:03.30 | NeoStrider | if you couldnt do that, you would have a great ambient heater |
| 05:04.13 | pupnik | mhm |
| 05:05.01 | NeoStrider | btw...after playing smw for hours...my 770 was of great confort to heat up my belly =-) |
| 05:05.23 | pupnik | hahah |
| 05:05.24 | erstazi | AC baby! |
| 05:05.43 | pupnik | did unique311 get gltron running with mesaGL? |
| 05:05.50 | NeoStrider | dunno |
| 05:05.54 | NeoStrider | guess no |
| 05:06.06 | pupnik | that would be fun to see |
| 05:07.17 | pupnik | glxgears... :p |
| 05:07.27 | NeoStrider | not for me...I would end up in tears =-p |
| 05:07.36 | NeoStrider | bloody tears |
| 05:08.27 | pupnik | what do you think a straight compile of glxgears on mesa would run at on the 770? at default resolution? |
| 05:08.28 | NeoStrider | my 3D rendering system is my Bsc Thesis |
| 05:08.38 | NeoStrider | glxgears...yes |
| 05:09.01 | NeoStrider | add a single gear more and you will have something very confortable to heat your belly =-P |
| 05:09.21 | pupnik | my guess would be.... 3 fps |
| 05:09.45 | NeoStrider | I would guess 5 |
| 05:10.07 | NeoStrider | i dont know if it really uses z-buffering |
| 05:11.54 | *** join/#maemo SeRi (n=Surreal@98.199.187.164) |
| 05:11.56 | NeoStrider | those old school open gl developers didnt relied so much on z-buffering |
| 05:12.18 | SeRi | damn bastartds stole my N770! |
| 05:12.18 | erstazi | hi SeRi |
| 05:12.21 | SeRi | hi |
| 05:12.24 | erstazi | no way! |
| 05:12.27 | SeRi | yes |
| 05:12.38 | erstazi | did you slit their throats? |
| 05:12.42 | NeoStrider | what?! |
| 05:12.46 | pupnik | bah mesa needs quilt |
| 05:13.00 | SeRi | I want it so bad but couldnt they where 2 slick |
| 05:13.01 | NeoStrider | how it happened, SeRi? |
| 05:13.06 | pupnik | sorry to hear it SeRi |
| 05:13.13 | SeRi | they took it off my new borns diper bag... |
| 05:13.13 | NeoStrider | where do you live, SeRi? |
| 05:13.21 | SeRi | US |
| 05:13.32 | SeRi | Houston, Texas |
| 05:13.51 | NeoStrider | TX...I wouldnt think of this happening in north america |
| 05:13.52 | SeRi | I think it was when we went to the park today |
| 05:14.19 | SeRi | Had too.... Thats the only time I wasent or any of us paying attention to the bags |
| 05:14.44 | SeRi | we where all having fun untill I got home |
| 05:14.53 | SeRi | bastards!!!!! |
| 05:15.10 | SeRi | die die die! I hope the battery gos bizerk and explodes in there hand |
| 05:15.34 | NeoStrider | relax...they will try selling it to a pimp as a cellphone |
| 05:15.36 | pupnik | they'll probably just fence it |
| 05:15.55 | SeRi | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 05:15.55 | NeoStrider | the pimp will then kill the f*ckers becouse the cellphone "is not working" |
| 05:16.02 | SeRi | LMAO |
| 05:16.09 | SeRi | Thanks for the laugh |
| 05:16.13 | pupnik | someone stole a p2 233 mhz laptop of mine |
| 05:16.21 | SeRi | :/ |
| 05:16.24 | pupnik | like they could do anything with something like that |
| 05:16.33 | pupnik | same for a 770 |
| 05:16.49 | pupnik | well sorta |
| 05:16.49 | SeRi | My 770 was for fun you know go arround istening to music and watch vids... N800 is for work |
| 05:16.52 | NeoStrider | they will push to the pimp as "de so call'd ePhony" |
| 05:17.04 | SeRi | LOL |
| 05:17.29 | NeoStrider | then the pimp will see the big nokia and cut "use the fingers" on the bandits |
| 05:17.59 | SeRi | hehehe I hope it all comes true |
| 05:18.14 | SeRi | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=63863#post63863 |
| 05:18.17 | pupnik | someone estimated that around 100 billion dollars a year of goods are stolen in the US to pay for illegal drugs |
| 05:18.26 | SeRi | N800 in magazine article |
| 05:18.39 | SeRi | I wouldnt doubt it |
| 05:18.56 | NeoStrider | from outside, US seem to emerged in drugs |
| 05:19.04 | erstazi | pupnik, what do you suggest about synergy-maemo? |
| 05:19.05 | NeoStrider | its so "aceptable" by its culture |
| 05:19.09 | NeoStrider | its true? |
| 05:19.37 | erstazi | NeoStrider, to a point, urban areas are hit with cocaine and weed while rural areas are hit by meth |
| 05:19.38 | SeRi | I am not from the US I harly go out because of shit like this |
| 05:19.49 | erstazi | SeRi, where are you from? |
| 05:19.54 | SeRi | Caribean |
| 05:20.06 | NeoStrider | nice! |
| 05:20.22 | NeoStrider | finally someone with beachs better than mine |
| 05:20.22 | SeRi | yeap I am here because work :) |
| 05:20.31 | SeRi | lol |
| 05:20.32 | erstazi | SeRi, sorry that happened |
| 05:20.43 | SeRi | ahhh is c00l thanks... :) |
| 05:21.10 | NeoStrider | look SeRi |
| 05:21.19 | SeRi | NeoStrider where you from? |
| 05:21.25 | NeoStrider | now you have a reason to replace the 770 with a N800 for fun =-) |
| 05:21.30 | NeoStrider | Rio de Janeiro |
| 05:21.43 | erstazi | only the fact is N800's are $ |
| 05:21.44 | SeRi | ahhh nice!!! Now thats the spot! |
| 05:21.55 | SeRi | ;) |
| 05:22.10 | NeoStrider | yeah...but I live in make-belive-land |
| 05:22.22 | SeRi | Yes thats true but I am working on the wife on that :P |
| 05:22.44 | SeRi | oooo :/ |
| 05:22.56 | NeoStrider | indeed , there are no maemo core developers |
| 05:23.22 | NeoStrider | code just spawned out of pure creater's will and the tablets descended from the skies with a beam of light |
| 05:23.55 | SeRi | wOw 8) |
| 05:24.08 | SeRi | lol... |
| 05:24.25 | erstazi | I am getting tired |
| 05:24.36 | erstazi | ugh, no more svn tonight |
| 05:24.37 | NeoStrider | (yeah...me too...medicine taking effect) |
| 05:24.48 | NeoStrider | svn is a farway dream for me... |
| 05:25.00 | erstazi | too many commits in one hour |
| 05:25.00 | NeoStrider | i've been expeled from that country |
| 05:25.28 | erstazi | now its time for some good internet radio |
| 05:25.53 | SeRi | dirtboxradio if you like jungle |
| 05:26.40 | erstazi | I need some classic rock |
| 05:26.47 | SeRi | I almost hosed my n800 this week with the hostname bull shit |
| 05:26.59 | NeoStrider | virgin classic rock it your choice |
| 05:27.42 | erstazi | on a 770, does anyone remember what the default lock code is? |
| 05:27.54 | SeRi | 0000 ? ? |
| 05:27.59 | SeRi | or 1234 |
| 05:28.00 | erstazi | tried that |
| 05:28.05 | NeoStrider | that was something I was trying to remember too |
| 05:28.12 | NeoStrider | when in doubt reflash it |
| 05:28.16 | erstazi | that also |
| 05:28.17 | milhouse | 12345? |
| 05:28.38 | SeRi | yes! |
| 05:28.42 | SeRi | bingo milhouse |
| 05:28.55 | milhouse | milhouse++ |
| 05:29.13 | NeoStrider | * milhouse is now level 2* |
| 05:29.23 | SeRi | lol |
| 05:29.24 | milhouse | [29/07/2007 06:28:55] <_Monkey> please don't karma yourself <--- private chat from _Monkey, slapping my wrist :) |
| 05:29.31 | erstazi | milhouse, you are a god |
| 05:29.44 | erstazi | milhouse++ |
| 05:29.48 | milhouse | oh no - not a geek god! :) |
| 05:29.51 | milhouse | karma milhouse |
| 05:29.52 | _Monkey | milhouse has karma of 2 |
| 05:30.00 | erstazi | milhouse++ |
| 05:30.01 | NeoStrider | * milhouse is now level 2* |
| 05:30.07 | NeoStrider | milhouse++ |
| 05:30.17 | milhouse | karma milhouse |
| 05:30.17 | SeRi | :/ do we have a boot here? |
| 05:30.17 | _Monkey | milhouse has karma of 4 |
| 05:30.20 | erstazi | ok, now I can protect this beast from children! |
| 05:30.21 | pupnik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Baldur%27s_Gate_Cloakwood_Forest_GemRB_0.2.4_Linux.png |
| 05:30.29 | pupnik | open-source baldur's gate engine (WIP) |
| 05:30.31 | milhouse | 2 then 4... hmmm _monkey can you add? |
| 05:30.41 | milhouse | ah missed erstazi - cheers :) |
| 05:30.43 | NeoStrider | erstazi did it and i did it two |
| 05:30.58 | SeRi | monkey is a boot? |
| 05:31.03 | erstazi | yes, SeRi |
| 05:31.06 | NeoStrider | i did it becouse of the _Monkey existence =-) |
| 05:31.08 | pupnik | Baldur's Gate on the tablet. yum... |
| 05:31.45 | NeoStrider | milhouse summoned _Monkey on a great demonstration of wizardry 5ki11z |
| 05:31.46 | SeRi | _Monkey you stole my N770! |
| 05:31.47 | _Monkey | SeRi: i'm not following you... |
| 05:31.55 | SeRi | Yes you are! |
| 05:32.07 | SeRi | _Monkey Give it back! |
| 05:32.07 | _Monkey | SeRi: excuse me? |
| 05:32.19 | SeRi | WTF! _Monkey! |
| 05:32.20 | NeoStrider | _Monkey: dont pretend you dont know what we are talking about! |
| 05:32.20 | _Monkey | wish i knew, neostrider |
| 05:32.25 | NeoStrider | hahhaha |
| 05:32.41 | SeRi | _Monkey spit it out where is it! |
| 05:32.41 | _Monkey | bugger all, i dunno, seri |
| 05:32.58 | SeRi | _Monkey did you sell it to the pimp? |
| 05:32.58 | _Monkey | wish i knew, seri |
| 05:33.04 | SeRi | LOL |
| 05:33.07 | SeRi | This is fun |
| 05:33.27 | SeRi | _Monkey You where probably high than! |
| 05:33.28 | _Monkey | i haven't a clue, seri |
| 05:33.40 | SeRi | WTF _Monkey is that crack? |
| 05:33.43 | NeoStrider | he's cleary stoned! |
| 05:33.50 | SeRi | LOL |
| 05:33.53 | NeoStrider | s/cleary/clearly/ |
| 05:34.18 | SeRi | infobot is another bot? |
| 05:34.30 | erstazi | monkey (so it doesn't save it) must be a supybot |
| 05:34.41 | SeRi | _Monkey is a bastrad |
| 05:34.56 | SeRi | he did stoled it and sold it to the pimps |
| 05:35.28 | NeoStrider | now the pimps will fill _Monkey with bananas... |
| 05:35.31 | SeRi | _Monkey You there? |
| 05:35.32 | _Monkey | wish i knew, seri |
| 05:35.33 | NeoStrider | dynamite bananas |
| 05:35.42 | SeRi | LOL @ NeoStrider |
| 05:36.08 | SeRi | _Monkey how in the world u dont know where you are at? |
| 05:36.08 | _Monkey | seri: bugger all, i dunno |
| 05:36.33 | SeRi | damn d00d thats some good shit you smoked |
| 05:36.41 | SeRi | ok enough of that |
| 05:37.01 | NeoStrider | angstron radar fully funcional!!! |
| 05:37.02 | SeRi | back to configure Media Tomb |
| 05:37.20 | SeRi | I had it installed in my 770 :( |
| 05:37.27 | NeoStrider | gosh I love to be myself |
| 05:37.32 | NeoStrider | angstron? |
| 05:37.32 | _Monkey | angstron is http://angstron.garage.maemo.org/ |
| 05:38.31 | SeRi | yeap |
| 05:38.34 | SeRi | LOL |
| 05:38.42 | NeoStrider | if the 770 had angstron, sure the bastards will have a painful death |
| 05:38.44 | SeRi | karma |
| 05:39.02 | NeoStrider | the 770 must be already burnt |
| 05:39.10 | SeRi | Yes it did and you know was worst I only was able to play it once |
| 05:39.15 | SeRi | I installed it yesterday |
| 05:39.27 | SeRi | Now tell me how that bastard will die!? |
| 05:39.37 | NeoStrider | of boredom |
| 05:39.42 | SeRi | LOL |
| 05:39.53 | NeoStrider | the game is so slow they will fall asleep and forge to breathe and sufocate |
| 05:40.12 | NeoStrider | tell me your impressions, SeRi |
| 05:40.23 | NeoStrider | you can tell totally the truth ("bummer!") |
| 05:40.30 | SeRi | lol |
| 05:41.11 | SeRi | well is not that bad... |
| 05:41.20 | NeoStrider | c'mon |
| 05:41.24 | NeoStrider | you can do better than that |
| 05:41.29 | SeRi | It did kind of hogh my 770 but not that bad... |
| 05:41.30 | NeoStrider | "plain sucks" |
| 05:41.36 | SeRi | no no.... |
| 05:41.49 | NeoStrider | ;-P |
| 05:42.00 | NeoStrider | I can tell you |
| 05:42.05 | SeRi | It was c00l I like action games.... |
| 05:42.13 | SeRi | Racing etc.. |
| 05:42.20 | NeoStrider | I was playing a lot more smw than angstron in the last hours =-P |
| 05:42.21 | SeRi | I dont like that much of still games |
| 05:42.33 | NeoStrider | yeah...I was missing some action on the 770 too |
| 05:42.38 | NeoStrider | Doom is cool |
| 05:42.42 | NeoStrider | but I cant play that |
| 05:42.58 | NeoStrider | smooth , sure...but as smooth as seizures |
| 05:43.00 | SeRi | Man I had a blast with doom |
| 05:43.11 | SeRi | ooo ic sorry |
| 05:43.32 | NeoStrider | but I can understand how the controls went so bad |
| 05:43.40 | SeRi | I just open a project my self... But havent ben able to do shit |
| 05:43.47 | NeoStrider | yesterday , playing smw, I pressed the wrong keys several times |
| 05:43.58 | NeoStrider | what it is, SeRi? |
| 05:44.01 | SeRi | damn maemo keeps going down |
| 05:44.17 | NeoStrider | it is now what is meant for, right? |
| 05:44.21 | SeRi | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/insight-null/ |
| 05:44.28 | NeoStrider | I guess I saw it |
| 05:45.22 | NeoStrider | yeah |
| 05:45.28 | NeoStrider | i saw it yesterday |
| 05:45.31 | SeRi | .... nothing big Is what I will use to release all I have done since the bigining of my 770 |
| 05:45.37 | NeoStrider | but didnt quite get it |
| 05:45.53 | NeoStrider | for how long you had it? |
| 05:46.00 | SeRi | 770? |
| 05:46.00 | _Monkey | 770 is so cheap right now. is there any reason to go for the 800 instead if all i'm doing is running the web browser only? |
| 05:46.30 | SeRi | I had the 770 since early 2006 |
| 05:46.43 | SeRi | probably the first production set |
| 05:46.56 | NeoStrider | mine too |
| 05:47.04 | NeoStrider | but it came with it2005 |
| 05:47.05 | SeRi | I was following it since post production :) just like I am with open moko |
| 05:47.14 | NeoStrider | yeah, me too |
| 05:47.20 | SeRi | :P |
| 05:47.24 | NeoStrider | I cant wait to put my hands on OpenMoko |
| 05:47.39 | SeRi | Man I am so excited about that! |
| 05:47.44 | NeoStrider | _Monkey: OpenMoko? |
| 05:47.45 | _Monkey | OpenMoko is, like, NeoStrider's phone of choice =-) |
| 05:47.53 | NeoStrider | even he knows abou tit |
| 05:47.58 | SeRi | LOL |
| 05:48.31 | SeRi | Is going to be awesome! My whole house runs linux right now... |
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| 05:48.36 | SeRi | :D |
| 05:48.50 | SeRi | well media and pc wise |
| 05:49.33 | NeoStrider | my family *HATES* linux |
| 05:49.43 | SeRi | I was keeping a win box becuase of upnp but I just found mediatomb |
| 05:49.59 | SeRi | Works very well with N800 |
| 05:52.24 | SeRi | Not that simple to set up but works |
| 05:52.33 | SeRi | I was having issues with uShare |
| 05:52.46 | NeoStrider | well my friends |
| 05:52.50 | NeoStrider | I had great time |
| 05:52.53 | erstazi | what are your guys favorite internet radio? |
| 05:52.55 | SeRi | NeoStrider why does your family hate nix? |
| 05:52.55 | NeoStrider | but I must go to bed now |
| 05:53.14 | SeRi | ok Neo have a G/N |
| 05:53.14 | NeoStrider | becouse "resistance is useless" |
| 05:53.14 | erstazi | night NeoStrider thanks for the talk |
| 05:53.20 | SeRi | ahhhh |
| 05:53.24 | NeoStrider | ur welcome |
| 05:53.28 | SeRi | yea same here thanks |
| 05:53.44 | NeoStrider | gn all |
| 05:53.47 | pupnik | well i'm off |
| 05:53.57 | SeRi | cya |
| 05:53.59 | SeRi | g/n! |
| 05:54.21 | SeRi | <erstazi> dirtboxradio and shoutcast |
| 05:54.37 | erstazi | SeRi, thank you |
| 05:54.56 | SeRi | n/p |
| 06:01.13 | SeRi | ok g/n guys |
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| 08:26.02 | Jaffa | Morning, al |
| 08:26.03 | Jaffa | +l |
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| 08:29.15 | keesj | Hi |
| 08:39.33 | disq | Hi |
| 08:44.58 | disq | we did a lot of work on kagu last night. if you're interested you might want to try the latest |
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| 11:29.16 | Andy80 | hi |
| 11:29.17 | _Monkey | niihau, Andy80 |
| 11:29.51 | Andy80 | hi _Monkey |
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| 13:00.03 | pupnikzzz | i love waking up slowly and while coming out of a dream state being able to grasp a problem i was working on the night before |
| 13:00.49 | erstazi | pupnikzzz, you just woke up? I just did as well too haha |
| 13:01.06 | erstazi | pupnikzzz, what was the problem from the night before? |
| 13:02.01 | pupnikzzz | something Neostrider said about iterating through the keys of a virtual keyboard to test if they were being hit bothered me |
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| 13:02.37 | pupnikzzz | it's an o(n) algorithm where n is the number of keys |
| 13:03.02 | pupnikzzz | there is an o(log n) algo for it and i realized it when i woke up |
| 13:03.20 | derf | I could've told you that if you'd asked. |
| 13:03.49 | derf | If your keys are arranged in nice rows, there is also an O(1) algorithm. |
| 13:04.01 | derf | But that may waste a little storage. |
| 13:04.26 | pupnikzzz | ok don't tell me! |
| 13:04.59 | derf | Well, it also works if your keys are not arranged in rows, but then it wastes a lot of storage. |
| 13:05.09 | pupnikzzz | good grief! hahaha |
| 13:05.14 | pupnikzzz | yes it does |
| 13:08.24 | pupnikzzz | my first o(1) thought would have wasted keyboard width x height bytes for a direct mapping of pixel area hit to key |
| 13:08.37 | pupnikzzz | but you can do it with less data! |
| 13:10.28 | pupnikzzz | no first idea would have wasted ints not bytes |
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| 13:21.49 | pupnik | a width x height array representing keyboard pixels can contain bytes (ascii values) for any pixel mapped to a key |
| 13:24.02 | pupnik | the o(log n) idea would use a binary tree for x and y |
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| 13:43.38 | tko | considering the amount of keys you can have on a keyboard, I don't see much point in spending lot of time trying to optimize it |
| 13:45.16 | pupnik | i think it's a crime that a 250mhz computer feels sluggish doing anything |
| 13:47.43 | procto | I die a little inside when our otherwise brilliant chief architect stares at my blankly when I tell him I don't want to have some shit loop twice |
| 13:47.50 | procto | (java dude) |
| 13:47.57 | procto | s/my/me |
| 13:49.54 | pupnik | i blame website designers for the slow browsing experience |
| 13:50.33 | procto | yeah |
| 13:51.00 | procto | software and software design get slower faster than hardware gets faster |
| 13:51.15 | procto | if someone doesn't break out soon |
| 13:51.23 | procto | we're going to slow to a crawl in a few years :> |
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| 14:27.38 | Sulis | a shit loop...that sounds horrible... |
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| 14:36.52 | erstazi_ | howdy everyone |
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| 15:06.20 | pupnik | i can't yet find any features that i need openssh for over dropbear |
| 15:06.59 | rwhitby | agent forwarding? |
| 15:07.25 | alterego | No warning messages? :) |
| 15:07.34 | rwhitby | (maybe recent dropbear versions do agent forwarding now ...) |
| 15:07.54 | pupnik | ok |
| 15:08.28 | rwhitby | dunno about the nokia's, but on the linksys nslu2 openssh is measured to be three times faster than dropbear doing scp with blowfish (the lightest weight encryption algorithm) |
| 15:09.03 | pupnik | aha! dropbear scp -c blowfish drops down to very low speeds |
| 15:09.46 | pupnik | and varies between 100-200kB/s |
| 15:10.07 | pupnik | (770, writing to /dev/mmc1 |
| 15:11.31 | pupnik | i need to install kernel with nfs and HS mmc |
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| 15:14.14 | pupnik | trying to partition mmc for multiboot |
| 15:14.25 | pupnik | apt-get install e2fsprogs // E: Package e2fsprogs has no installation candidate (gregale) |
| 15:15.00 | pupnik | Google: |
| 15:15.01 | pupnik | Your search - gregale "E: Package e2fsprogs has no installation candidate" - did not match any documents. |
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| 15:15.34 | blkhawk | lo |
| 15:15.42 | blkhawk | I need a little help with FBreader |
| 15:15.58 | blkhawk | I got it installed but icannot find its configuration files |
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| 15:18.43 | blkhawk | apparently its the newest version compiled for 1.1 |
| 15:23.21 | blkhawk | anybody here got FBreader installed? |
| 15:23.40 | blkhawk | I need to know where it expects the conf file and in what format |
| 15:23.56 | blkhawk | I have the default files apparently but i don't know where to put them |
| 15:26.31 | blkhawk | hello? |
| 15:26.42 | pupnik | don't know the answer |
| 15:26.52 | pupnik | do you have the deb file for the package? |
| 15:26.59 | pupnik | you can list all the files it contains |
| 15:30.10 | blkhawk | pupnik: remember my 1.1 predicament |
| 15:30.24 | blkhawk | pupnik: the .deb file does not install |
| 15:30.48 | pupnik | download the older deb |
| 15:30.51 | pupnik | oh nevermind |
| 15:30.55 | blkhawk | it is thenewest version automatically compiled for 1.1 |
| 15:31.05 | pupnik | maybe the 1.1 build has different default directories |
| 15:31.12 | pupnik | you can list all the files the older deb contains |
| 15:31.14 | blkhawk | pupnik: it does not let me |
| 15:31.18 | pupnik | maybe 1.1 puts them in the same location |
| 15:31.27 | blkhawk | yes exactly |
| 15:31.38 | blkhawk | Icannot get an older deb however |
| 15:32.17 | procto | why can't you get an older deb? |
| 15:32.26 | blkhawk | the fbreadersite only shows the newest |
| 15:32.30 | procto | ah |
| 15:32.38 | blkhawk | and guessing the name of older deb hasn't worked |
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| 15:33.38 | blkhawk | pupnik: could you point me to a newer .deb tho? |
| 15:33.44 | erstazi | isn't fbreadersite on sourceforge? |
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| 15:33.54 | blkhawk | i can take it apart and look how the files are put |
| 15:33.58 | blkhawk | hmmmm |
| 15:34.10 | pupnik | dpkg --contents filename.deb |
| 15:34.31 | blkhawk | erstazi: yes i think so..... i don't know about the maemo packages tho /me checks |
| 15:34.33 | Aceado|770 | Can someone tell me if the 770 os2007 he is better than the 2006e |
| 15:35.22 | pupnik | the fbreader for maemo homepage is incredibly obsolete |
| 15:35.34 | blkhawk | pupnik: yes - so is my 770 OS |
| 15:35.40 | blkhawk | so its all good ;) |
| 15:35.45 | blkhawk | I mean i run it already |
| 15:35.45 | pupnik | http://www.fbreader.org/maemo/#maemo2.offline |
| 15:35.55 | blkhawk | but all menu items look like this: ???????? |
| 15:36.04 | blkhawk | and all icons show broken icons |
| 15:36.05 | Aceado|770 | Anyone ? |
| 15:36.19 | pupnik | no |
| 15:36.23 | blkhawk | Aceado|770: os2007 is better but needs more memory |
| 15:36.28 | pupnik | nobody can tell you if it's better |
| 15:36.32 | blkhawk | I think 2006 is better for now |
| 15:36.38 | pupnik | because it depends on who you are and what you want to do |
| 15:37.16 | erstazi | agreed pupnik, I find 2006 sufficient for my needs |
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| 15:38.34 | pupnik | note the term 'hacker edition'.. i would recommend if you want to try it, put it on the mmc card so you can switch back easily |
| 15:38.34 | Aceado|770 | Ok its just the both minimo and the opaera close itself off when i use them for about 20mins or so like there is a buffer problem or somethink? |
| 15:39.23 | erstazi | Aceado|770, which os do you have again? 2007? opera can crash sometimes, it has happened to me once already in 1 day |
| 15:39.41 | erstazi | Aceado|770, I suggest links2 |
| 15:40.11 | blkhawk | ok no Sourceforge hosting for fbreader |
| 15:40.31 | pupnik | links2 has been stable for me - hacking it for a vkbd would be nice |
| 15:40.38 | blkhawk | can anybody get me a current 3.0 or 2.0 version of the deb? |
| 15:40.48 | blkhawk | somebody here has to use fbreader ;) |
| 15:41.32 | Aceado|770 | I have 2006 not 2007 |
| 15:42.33 | erstazi | Aceado|770, I would stick with 2006, I am as well |
| 15:42.54 | Aceado|770 | So should i use the links2 then? |
| 15:43.19 | erstazi | Aceado|770, if opera messes up continually, I would use links2 (pupnik has the link) or links |
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| 15:43.44 | erstazi | howdy NeoStrider |
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| 15:43.57 | NeoStrider | howdy erstazi! |
| 15:44.10 | NeoStrider | hello to you all! |
| 15:44.11 | bilboed | hi all. |
| 15:44.16 | erstazi | hi bilboed |
| 15:44.28 | NeoStrider | hi bilboed |
| 15:44.29 | Aceado|770 | Where can i find links2 and am i able 2 view pics aswell? |
| 15:44.32 | erstazi | I haven't tried the mozilla based browser yet |
| 15:44.33 | bilboed | Where can I get a bigger set of gstreamer plugins for the n800 ? The official packages are missing quite a lot. I'm mostly looking for jpegenc |
| 15:44.45 | NeoStrider | _Monkey: pupnik |
| 15:44.47 | _Monkey | NeoStrider: huh? |
| 15:44.49 | NeoStrider | _Monkey: pupnik? |
| 15:44.51 | _Monkey | neostrider: i haven't a clue |
| 15:44.55 | NeoStrider | _Monkey: smw? |
| 15:44.57 | _Monkey | somebody said smw was Super Mario War at http://pupnik.de/smw.html |
| 15:45.01 | erstazi | Aceado|770, http://pupnik.de/links2.html |
| 15:45.10 | NeoStrider | erstazi was faster than me |
| 15:45.12 | NeoStrider | =-) |
| 15:45.20 | erstazi | I couldn't remember it |
| 15:45.29 | erstazi | then it hit me, browser history (: |
| 15:45.32 | NeoStrider | me too, so I used _Monkey |
| 15:45.58 | bilboed | zeenix, ping |
| 15:48.49 | pupnik | becomeroot is echo 'deb http://eko.one.pl/maemo mistral user' >> /var/cache/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get install becomeroot , then in xterm type "sudo gainroot" |
| 15:48.52 | pupnik | becomeroot? |
| 15:48.53 | _Monkey | i guess becomeroot is echo 'deb http://eko.one.pl/maemo mistral user' >> /var/cache/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get install becomeroot , then in xterm type "sudo gainroot" |
| 15:49.29 | pupnik | _Monkey: forget becomeroot |
| 15:49.31 | _Monkey | pupnik: I forgot becomeroot |
| 15:49.58 | Aceado|770 | How do i use it? |
| 15:50.02 | pupnik | becomeroot is For 770 ITOS2006, type in a shell: echo 'deb http://eko.one.pl/maemo mistral user' >> /var/cache/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get install becomeroot , then in xterm type "sudo gainroot" |
| 15:52.18 | erstazi | pupnik, heh, good job |
| 15:52.35 | blkhawk | ok - can anybody get me a recent .deb of FBreader? |
| 15:52.48 | blkhawk | I am stuck with 1.1 and cannot normally download it |
| 15:53.05 | pupnik | becomeroot? |
| 15:53.06 | _Monkey | hmmm... becomeroot is For 770 ITOS2006, install dropbear or openssh, then ssh to root on the device, then in a shell: echo 'deb http://eko.one.pl/maemo mistral user' >> /var/cache/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get install becomeroot , then in xterm type "sudo gainroot" |
| 15:53.38 | erstazi | blkhawk, what version do you want? |
| 15:53.40 | erstazi | or desire? |
| 15:54.01 | erstazi | blkhawk, what os version do you have/ |
| 15:55.18 | blkhawk | erstazi: os2005 |
| 15:55.44 | blkhawk | I have a prototype 770 |
| 15:55.51 | blkhawk | I cannot upgrade the bootloader |
| 15:56.14 | blkhawk | erstazi: any version is fine - the 2.0 version would be best - but 3.0 is fine too |
| 15:56.19 | erstazi | ok |
| 15:56.23 | pupnik | i can't umount /media/mmc1 on itos2006 - and i only have xterm and load-applet-run started |
| 15:56.34 | blkhawk | I need to confirm the .deb has the sme structure the package for 1.1 has |
| 15:56.53 | blkhawk | I think the autobilding process is broken on rthat one |
| 15:58.15 | erstazi | blkhawk, http://maemo.org/downloads/product/fbreader (I only see 0.8.4a) |
| 15:58.34 | erstazi | I am not sure where else you could find that, I think the repos would be the same as well |
| 15:58.41 | pupnik | oh i am stupid, swap is enabled >_< sorry |
| 15:58.51 | erstazi | pupnik, heh |
| 15:59.56 | NeoStrider | got a tester for angstron!!! |
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| 16:00.16 | Cegy | how do i become root? |
| 16:00.19 | NeoStrider | what changed from OS2005? |
| 16:00.25 | NeoStrider | it uses dpkg and not apt |
| 16:00.42 | Cegy | so i can use the links2 ? |
| 16:01.04 | blkhawk | erstazi: iya well I need the .deb of os2006 |
| 16:01.08 | pupnik | Cegy: what OS/Tablet do you have |
| 16:01.09 | blkhawk | thanks tho |
| 16:01.18 | Cegy | 770 2006 |
| 16:01.28 | pupnik | becomeroot? |
| 16:01.30 | _Monkey | becomeroot is For 770 ITOS2006, install dropbear or openssh, then ssh to root on the device, then in a shell: echo 'deb http://eko.one.pl/maemo mistral user' >> /var/cache/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get install becomeroot , then in xterm type "sudo gainroot" |
| 16:01.58 | erstazi | pupnik, (I suggest openssh, a lot easier to configure) |
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| 16:07.01 | Cegy | i did sudo gainroot in xterm and i says cal_read_block (r&d_mode): size zero, block not found? Enabel the RD mode if u want to break your device |
| 16:07.02 | Cegy | :| |
| 16:07.35 | milhouse | have you installed becomeroot? |
| 16:07.39 | blkhawk | erstazi: could you look into ~/.FBreader and ell mewhat you seethere? |
| 16:07.46 | Cegy | becomeroot? |
| 16:07.47 | _Monkey | becomeroot is, like, For 770 ITOS2006, install dropbear or openssh, then ssh to root on the device, then in a shell: echo 'deb http://eko.one.pl/maemo mistral user' >> /var/cache/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get install becomeroot , then in xterm type "sudo gainroot" |
| 16:07.49 | Cegy | i did that |
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| 16:08.01 | erstazi | blkhawk, hold a second please, I am installing something in xterm |
| 16:08.21 | milhouse | sounds like it hasn't worked for some reason |
| 16:08.30 | Cegy | shit |
| 16:08.31 | Cegy | :| |
| 16:08.33 | blkhawk | ty |
| 16:08.33 | Cegy | not fair |
| 16:08.43 | Cegy | i want to install links2 but i guess not now |
| 16:08.54 | milhouse | just set R&D mode... |
| 16:08.59 | Cegy | how? |
| 16:09.08 | milhouse | you got a linux pc available to you? |
| 16:09.13 | Cegy | no |
| 16:09.15 | Cegy | on windows |
| 16:09.17 | milhouse | or a LiveCD distro? |
| 16:09.21 | Cegy | nope |
| 16:09.26 | milhouse | you lying |
| 16:09.30 | Cegy | am not |
| 16:09.33 | milhouse | just download one |
| 16:09.36 | milhouse | :) |
| 16:09.44 | Cegy | but y would i need to ? |
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| 16:10.26 | Cegy | can't i do it in the shell to install the links2 |
| 16:10.28 | milhouse | well i was hoping to save time trying to work out why becomeroot wasn't working and just get you to use the linux flasher but probably not worth the effort |
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| 16:11.03 | milhouse | if you need root you need to work out what has happened to becomeroot |
| 16:11.16 | Cegy | so |
| 16:11.27 | milhouse | alternatively, install dropbear or openssh (somehow - maybe red pill mode) then root into your device that way |
| 16:11.43 | Cegy | i can ssh my 770 |
| 16:11.54 | Cegy | with openssh install |
| 16:11.55 | erstazi | Cegy, can you do this: sudo gainroot |
| 16:12.11 | Cegy | on wat shell or xtrem? |
| 16:12.19 | erstazi | either or |
| 16:12.48 | Cegy | root is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 16:12.51 | Cegy | on shel |
| 16:12.53 | Cegy | sheel |
| 16:12.55 | Cegy | shell* |
| 16:13.10 | Cegy | and on xterm i get cal_read_block (r&d_mode): size zero, block not found? Enabel the RD mode if u want to break your device |
| 16:14.46 | Cegy | any idea's ? |
| 16:16.21 | Cegy | erstazi? |
| 16:16.22 | _Monkey | i think erstazi is happy that IT2006/IT2007 is based on debian |
| 16:17.41 | erstazi | Cegy, not sure |
| 16:17.48 | zakx | Cegy: "< Cegy> root is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." |
| 16:17.55 | zakx | sounds like you already are root. |
| 16:18.08 | NeoStrider | zakx...all fingers will point to you |
| 16:18.27 | Cegy | how will i find out if am root or not? |
| 16:18.40 | zakx | Cegy: execute "id" |
| 16:18.45 | zakx | paste the results in here |
| 16:18.47 | Cegy | wtf? |
| 16:18.55 | Cegy | type waT? |
| 16:19.01 | zakx | absolution:~ zakx$ id |
| 16:19.01 | zakx | uid=501(zakx) gid=501(zakx) groups=501(zakx), 80(admin) |
| 16:19.19 | Cegy | so i type execute "id" |
| 16:19.24 | zakx | no. |
| 16:19.26 | Cegy | in wat xterm or shell ? |
| 16:19.41 | Cegy | am new to this so |
| 16:19.43 | Cegy | u know |
| 16:20.10 | zakx | what do you mean by "shell" exactly? |
| 16:20.11 | Cegy | it says |
| 16:20.43 | Cegy | uid=29999(user) uid=29999(users) |
| 16:21.14 | zakx | is that the same window you entered the sudo gainroot stuff in? |
| 16:21.21 | Cegy | yeah |
| 16:21.50 | zakx | alright, you're not root then |
| 16:21.58 | Cegy | in xterm thats wat it says |
| 16:22.09 | Cegy | ok so wats the easy way to become root then? |
| 16:22.26 | zakx | easiest way would be to install either openssh or dropbear |
| 16:22.40 | zakx | the package is calles "ssh" though |
| 16:22.42 | Cegy | i have openssh install already |
| 16:22.42 | zakx | *called |
| 16:22.46 | zakx | okay. |
| 16:22.49 | Cegy | i can ssh it |
| 16:22.53 | Cegy | if u mean that |
| 16:23.04 | zakx | are you logged in via ssh? |
| 16:23.05 | milhouse | ok - so login as root into your device over ssh |
| 16:23.33 | Cegy | done that |
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| 16:23.41 | milhouse | and you are now root? |
| 16:23.43 | milhouse | id? |
| 16:24.13 | Cegy | it doesn't say user not it says root |
| 16:24.20 | Cegy | uid=0(root) gid=0(root) |
| 16:24.20 | erstazi | pupnik, now, what is synergy for? I know you mention it in the INSTALL/README about how you can use that for the virtual keyboard on the 770 |
| 16:24.30 | zakx | Cegy: congratulations. you're root then. |
| 16:24.39 | Cegy | oh |
| 16:24.41 | erstazi | Cegy, I suggest changing the passwords for both user and root |
| 16:24.49 | erstazi | Cegy, passwd root |
| 16:24.50 | erstazi | or |
| 16:24.53 | erstazi | passwd user |
| 16:24.56 | Cegy | so i have to ssh it to become root |
| 16:24.59 | erstazi | change both for security |
| 16:25.01 | _Monkey | erstazi: that doesn't look right |
| 16:25.05 | Cegy | ok |
| 16:25.09 | blkhawk | erstazi: did you look in .FBreader for me? |
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| 16:25.18 | erstazi | blkhawk, doing now, done installing |
| 16:25.22 | blkhawk | ty |
| 16:25.36 | zakx | erstazi: the user account has no password. |
| 16:25.41 | Cegy | i would like to use links2 but if u can't use the virtual keyboard then its no use to me :| |
| 16:25.43 | zakx | one shouldn't change that |
| 16:26.21 | erstazi | blkhawk, I would look if I had it (: |
| 16:26.38 | erstazi | I haven't installed it yet myself |
| 16:26.47 | erstazi | blkhawk, you will notice that there are some versions not ported yet |
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| 16:27.03 | blkhawk | erstazi: dang - thanks ayway |
| 16:27.19 | blkhawk | blkhawk:yes but this on is - except for the damn UI |
| 16:27.25 | blkhawk | i miss all the icons and texts |
| 16:27.32 | blkhawk | otherwise it works fine |
| 16:28.15 | Cegy | pupnik how do i use links2 |
| 16:28.23 | Cegy | can i use the virtual keybroad? |
| 16:28.25 | Cegy | :| |
| 16:28.52 | erstazi | zakx, I set a password to the usr account |
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| 16:29.08 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/links2.html Cegy, info is here |
| 16:29.26 | Cegy | so my question u still tell me can i use it yes or no? |
| 16:29.27 | Cegy | simple as that |
| 16:29.35 | erstazi | Cegy, requires a bluetooth keyboard or synergy (to use the desktop keyboard). |
| 16:29.44 | Cegy | fucking bollocks then |
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| 16:30.00 | erstazi | pupnik, when you say "desktop keyboard" do you mean the virtual keyboard right? |
| 16:30.04 | pupnik | i use it with a virtual keyboard :() |
| 16:30.07 | pupnik | yeah |
| 16:30.30 | Cegy | so U can use the virtual keyboard then ? |
| 16:30.41 | erstazi | pupnik, thats where I stopped last night, I didn't get to installing synergy, I was too tired |
| 16:30.47 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/matchbox-kbd.html |
| 16:30.50 | pupnik | with that keyboard |
| 16:32.05 | erstazi | ty, pupnik |
| 16:32.10 | Cegy | ok so i can become root now how do i move the file to where ever it should be and use it? |
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| 16:33.52 | Cegy | pupnik ? |
| 16:33.52 | _Monkey | somebody said pupnik was stupid, swap is enabled >_< sorry |
| 16:33.54 | pupnik | ? |
| 16:34.00 | Cegy | ok so i can become root now how do i move the file to where ever it should be and use it? |
| 16:34.02 | pupnik | lol |
| 16:34.20 | pupnik | what file |
| 16:34.23 | Cegy | i will keep on asking till i get the help but am dumb so i nee step by step help |
| 16:34.24 | erstazi | pupnik, you must have had your 770 for a while, or you are a busy little fellow |
| 16:34.25 | Cegy | links2 |
| 16:34.25 | _Monkey | i think links2 is a lightweight graphical web browser (non-hildon) http://pupnik.de/links2.html |
| 16:35.06 | erstazi | pupnik, either way, you are a god (again) |
| 16:35.06 | pupnik | Cegy: i want to help |
| 16:35.10 | erstazi | pupnik ++ |
| 16:35.16 | Cegy | ok :) |
| 16:35.25 | pupnik | i am just slow and also working on other things |
| 16:35.26 | Cegy | i've downloaded the links2 file |
| 16:35.39 | erstazi | Cegy, did you untar it? |
| 16:35.47 | Cegy | how do u do that :|? |
| 16:35.50 | pupnik | ok, you can also install it directly from the nokia web browser |
| 16:36.01 | erstazi | tar -zxvf filename |
| 16:36.06 | erstazi | make sure you are root |
| 16:36.09 | erstazi | first |
| 16:36.12 | pupnik | oh sorry i am wrong |
| 16:36.17 | Dimm | Does links2 install as mozilla, just a line in menu to select an engine? |
| 16:36.19 | pupnik | no .deb for links2 sorry |
| 16:36.23 | Cegy | install it from the nokia web browser how is that done then? |
| 16:36.35 | erstazi | Cegy, go to xterm |
| 16:36.36 | pupnik | forget i said that |
| 16:36.41 | Cegy | ok |
| 16:36.42 | pupnik | follow erstazi instructions |
| 16:36.48 | Cegy | ok |
| 16:36.49 | erstazi | Cegy, then cd /media/mmc1 |
| 16:36.59 | erstazi | I am suspecting thats where you saved it |
| 16:37.00 | Cegy | ok 2 secs |
| 16:37.16 | blkhawk | is there anybody in her willing to get me the contents of their .fbreader directory? |
| 16:37.17 | erstazi | (that is the external flash) |
| 16:37.21 | zeenix | bilboed: late pong |
| 16:37.28 | blkhawk | I really need it to get my install working |
| 16:37.30 | Cegy | i can only use ssh to become root should i use that to do it ? |
| 16:37.51 | pupnik | no fbreader here |
| 16:37.52 | blkhawk | or a 2.0 deb file |
| 16:37.56 | blkhawk | :( |
| 16:38.00 | erstazi | Cegy, well, it depends, you can access /media/mmc1 when you connect to the usb |
| 16:38.08 | bilboed | zeenix, do you know where I can find more gstreamer plugins compiled for n800 ? |
| 16:38.10 | NeoStrider | snack time! BRB! |
| 16:38.13 | erstazi | blkhawk, you will have to find a deb that uses the ARM arch |
| 16:38.13 | bilboed | zeenix, like jpegenc for example |
| 16:38.24 | zeenix | bilboed: nope :( |
| 16:38.25 | blkhawk | erstazi: damn - I have got that |
| 16:38.35 | erstazi | s/uses/is for |
| 16:38.37 | blkhawk | erstazi: but it is broken |
| 16:38.44 | blkhawk | erstazi: i have it manually installed |
| 16:38.58 | blkhawk | erstazi: but it is unable to find its resource files |
| 16:39.07 | zeenix | bilboed: how hard it is for you to get it build? :) |
| 16:39.10 | blkhawk | so i have no Menu text or icons |
| 16:39.12 | erstazi | blkhawk, you must be missing some packages |
| 16:39.34 | blkhawk | erstazi: no I am not - the deb packages is autobuild |
| 16:39.42 | bilboed | zeenix, scratchbox is painful to install for one plugin... especially if you don't have a debian-based system |
| 16:39.46 | blkhawk | it broke sometimes after 2006 came out |
| 16:40.06 | Cegy | am there at mmc1 nowwat? |
| 16:40.16 | blkhawk | nobody noticed because everybody except me can use 2006 |
| 16:40.25 | erstazi | Cegy, now type: ls |
| 16:40.38 | blkhawk | I made sure all packeages and librarays are installed - its a simple configuration problem |
| 16:40.40 | erstazi | tell me if the links2 tgz is there |
| 16:40.41 | Cegy | yeah u see that file there |
| 16:40.46 | Cegy | i* |
| 16:41.17 | erstazi | tar -zxvf links2_armel_bin.tgz |
| 16:41.34 | zeenix | bilboed: it wouldn't be a bad idea if you file a bug for this |
| 16:41.40 | Cegy | done that |
| 16:42.06 | erstazi | ok now follow the instructions in INSTALL (do you know about the command mv? mv is move) |
| 16:42.20 | zeenix | bilboed: i imagine many devels would want plugins for n800 that are not there on the device normally |
| 16:42.27 | bilboed | zeenix, right |
| 16:42.31 | Cegy | u need to tell me wat to do as i don't know myself as am new to this |
| 16:42.34 | bilboed | zeenix, even though it means downloading other packages |
| 16:42.42 | erstazi | Cegy, if ldconfig gives an error about ld.so.conf missing in /etc/, then just vi /etc/ldconfig and save it (if you know how to use vi) |
| 16:43.04 | erstazi | Cegy, let me pm you, its a little crazy here, kids not listening right now |
| 16:43.48 | Ceg | yeah i get an error |
| 16:43.50 | zeenix | bilboed: yeah! who ever wants jpegenc can then just `apt-get install ..` it |
| 16:44.32 | Ceg | erstazi ? |
| 16:44.32 | _Monkey | somebody said erstazi was happy that IT2006/IT2007 is based on debian |
| 16:45.04 | bilboed | zeenix, you wouldn't happen to have scratchbox ready for compiling just one plugin ? :) |
| 16:46.06 | erstazi | Ceg, does it say "ls.so.conf doesn't exist" or you don't got permissions or something? |
| 16:46.19 | Ceg | ldconfig: Can't open configuration file /etc/ld.so.conf: No such file or directory |
| 16:46.28 | jarno | What was that dictionary software for 770? |
| 16:46.32 | erstazi | Ceg, in xterm type: vi /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 16:46.43 | erstazi | then type :w |
| 16:46.53 | Ceg | wat :w or w ? |
| 16:46.56 | erstazi | ":w" without the quotes |
| 16:47.03 | erstazi | then type :q |
| 16:47.10 | erstazi | (it wouldn't let me do :wq) |
| 16:47.21 | erstazi | now run ldconfig |
| 16:47.22 | Ceg | y |
| 16:48.09 | erstazi | it gave a warning if I did :wq so I just did it separate, by typing :w then :q |
| 16:48.10 | jarno | How to run wmv files? Mplayer only show first frame. |
| 16:48.27 | bilboed | zeenix, sigh... then I guess I have to install scratchbox after all :( |
| 16:48.30 | Ceg | i can't do anything |
| 16:48.34 | erstazi | Jaffa, you need the codecs for that, and I do not know if they were ported for the ARM arch |
| 16:48.35 | Ceg | it just types it in and now |
| 16:48.37 | Ceg | nothing* |
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| 16:49.10 | erstazi | Ceg, I suggest reading up on how to use vi, but all you have to do is type :w then hit enter key then type :q and hit enter key |
| 16:49.14 | erstazi | and it brings you back to terminal |
| 16:49.42 | erstazi | Ceg, basically, you just made the ld.so.conf so ldconfig can write to it when you run the command ldconfig |
| 16:50.28 | Ceg | done that wats next? |
| 16:50.50 | erstazi | did you type ldconfig into the xterm? |
| 16:51.19 | Ceg | -sh: idconfig: not found |
| 16:51.48 | erstazi | L not i |
| 16:51.50 | erstazi | lowercase l |
| 16:52.02 | Ceg | i mean ldconfig and it doesn'y do anything |
| 16:52.11 | Ceg | like i need to type something again |
| 16:52.14 | erstazi | Ceg, thats ok, thats whats suppose to happen |
| 16:52.18 | Ceg | ok |
| 16:52.22 | erstazi | cd /media/mmc1/links2/ |
| 16:52.33 | erstazi | after that type: ls |
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| 16:53.02 | blkhawk | I give up |
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| 16:53.16 | Ceg | yeah done that |
| 16:54.09 | erstazi | Ceg, ok now verify that links2 is there |
| 16:54.21 | Ceg | yeah i can see that there |
| 16:54.28 | erstazi | now we can move links2: mv links2 /usr/bin/links2 |
| 16:54.54 | Ceg | done that |
| 16:54.59 | erstazi | ok |
| 16:55.09 | erstazi | now go to opera and load: http://pupnik.de/matchbox-kbd.html |
| 16:55.33 | erstazi | click Libfakekey0 deb and install that first |
| 16:56.00 | erstazi | after that is done, then install Matchbox-Keyboard deb |
| 16:56.15 | erstazi | after all that is done, go to xterm and type: links2 -g |
| 16:56.18 | bilboed | I want to set up usb networking, according to the wiki, I need to have a development root filesystem flashed on the device. Where can I find those ? |
| 16:56.19 | erstazi | -g is for graphics |
| 16:57.46 | erstazi | bilboed, I am not to that level yet, I have seen something on maemo.org about that but haven't attempted it yet... I only have had my 770 for 1 day so far |
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| 17:00.06 | erstazi | hello fox__ |
| 17:02.57 | NeoStrider | howdy fox__ |
| 17:03.20 | Ceg | it saying its missing a file |
| 17:03.27 | Ceg | libgpm |
| 17:05.01 | erstazi | Ceg, oh you need to install that |
| 17:05.03 | erstazi | hold a sec |
| 17:05.35 | erstazi | pupnik, I forgot where I got libgpm from |
| 17:05.42 | erstazi | is it in the repos? |
| 17:06.32 | pupnik | don't remember |
| 17:06.55 | Ceg | i have it alright i think |
| 17:06.55 | erstazi | Ceg, ok |
| 17:06.55 | Ceg | it came in the links2 tar file |
| 17:07.09 | erstazi | Ceg, oh I thought already moved that |
| 17:07.13 | erstazi | Ceg, sorry |
| 17:07.13 | pupnik | i'll put a libgpm on the links2.html page - don't see it in repos |
| 17:07.14 | Ceg | nah |
| 17:07.24 | Ceg | so how do i do that? |
| 17:07.26 | Ceg | :) |
| 17:07.39 | erstazi | Ceg, back in xterm, make sure you sudo gainroot again |
| 17:07.45 | Ceg | i am |
| 17:07.45 | erstazi | ssh or xterm doesn't matter |
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| 17:08.47 | erstazi | cd /media/mmc1/links2/usr/lib/ |
| 17:09.03 | Ceg | shit |
| 17:09.07 | Ceg | i need to untar it again |
| 17:09.08 | Ceg | lol |
| 17:09.13 | pupnik | strange, i don't see a libgpm deb anywhere now |
| 17:09.30 | erstazi | pupnik, I can try to make one |
| 17:09.34 | erstazi | for the ARM arch |
| 17:09.47 | erstazi | then we can submit this to maemo if you want |
| 17:09.48 | Ceg | how do i untar again? |
| 17:10.05 | erstazi | tar -zxvf links2_armel_bin.tgz |
| 17:10.13 | erstazi | make sure you are in the correct directory |
| 17:10.26 | erstazi | tar -zxvf /media/mmc1/links2_armel_bin.tgz |
| 17:10.46 | Ceg | done that |
| 17:10.52 | erstazi | ok |
| 17:10.53 | Ceg | i'll do cd /media/mmc1/links2/usr/lib/ |
| 17:11.01 | Ceg | done that |
| 17:11.02 | erstazi | then type: mv libgpm.so.1.19.6 /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1.19.6 |
| 17:11.04 | Ceg | wats next ;) |
| 17:11.37 | erstazi | pupnik, should it be: mv libgpm* /usr/lib/libgpm* |
| 17:11.52 | erstazi | personally, I did: mv libgpm.so.1.19.6 /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1.19.6 |
| 17:11.57 | Ceg | still get the same error |
| 17:12.08 | erstazi | Ceg, should it be: mv libgpm* /usr/lib/libgpm* |
| 17:12.18 | Ceg | i don't know |
| 17:12.22 | pupnik | then i think you want to ln -s /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1.19.6 /usr/lib/libgpm.so && ldconfig |
| 17:12.22 | Ceg | am ne to this |
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| 17:12.31 | pupnik | ok you can also copy several files |
| 17:12.47 | pupnik | that works too, ldconfig might complain about it though |
| 17:13.52 | Ceg | nah it works |
| 17:14.05 | Ceg | just can't get the virtual keyboard to work now |
| 17:14.16 | Ceg | i've installed it and that |
| 17:14.21 | Ceg | or do i need to restart it? |
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| 17:15.04 | erstazi | Ceg, that should be it, now type in xterm: links2 -g |
| 17:15.23 | erstazi | I thought we did matchbox-kbd |
| 17:15.23 | Ceg | yeah links2 works but no virtual keyboard |
| 17:15.29 | Ceg | we did |
| 17:15.33 | erstazi | hmm |
| 17:15.53 | Ceg | i'll reinstall them, 2 files again |
| 17:17.19 | erstazi | ok |
| 17:19.29 | pupnik | libgpm deb package is up on links2.html fwiw |
| 17:21.38 | erstazi | I cannot get the matchbox-kbd done but I need to wash some dishes here before I get some company coming |
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| 17:26.21 | Ceg | still can't get the virtual keyboard to work |
| 17:26.56 | pupnik | if you type matchbox-keyboard in an xterm what happens? |
| 17:27.27 | pupnik | i should alias that to 'mbkbd' or something |
| 17:29.13 | Ceg | still don't work |
| 17:29.21 | Ceg | no |
| 17:29.24 | Ceg | it works |
| 17:29.36 | Ceg | shit tho |
| 17:29.42 | Ceg | as u can't hide it |
| 17:29.45 | Ceg | :|# |
| 17:29.47 | pupnik | yep |
| 17:29.53 | pupnik | there's no hide/restore button |
| 17:30.13 | pupnik | i want it to hide to a corner of the screen (a little icon) that you can click-on to restore it |
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| 17:30.45 | Ceg | uintill then its pointless i think |
| 17:31.12 | pupnik | refresh the links2 page, i linked to a thread that shows you how to hide/restore it |
| 17:31.42 | Ceg | if it more typeing that no thanks its pointless |
| 17:31.43 | pupnik | this is all brand new stuff, so it's not userfriendly yet |
| 17:31.47 | erstazi | interesting |
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| 17:32.44 | erstazi | ok time to do the dishes I will be back |
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| 17:46.42 | erstazi | done |
| 17:57.02 | pupnik | ssh? |
| 17:57.03 | _Monkey | i think ssh is a massive overhead for the N800's tiny little processor though |
| 17:57.24 | pupnik | ssh? |
| 17:57.24 | _Monkey | rumour has it ssh is a 'secure shell' client/server. It lets you get access to the linux shell on my Tablet. See http://maemo.org/community/wiki/installssh2006/ |
| 17:58.52 | Robot101 | ssh isn't a massive overhead, that's nonsense |
| 17:59.16 | Robot101 | the reason it's slow is because the wifi antenna is only powered up when the tablet is sending, so incoming connections and keypresses fall on deaf ears |
| 17:59.35 | Robot101 | the solution is once you ssh in, run ping on the device |
| 18:00.12 | pupnik | using dropbear and running ping, i only get 100-200kB/s with scp -c blowfish |
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| 18:00.39 | pupnik | i'll have to test a comparison with nfs someday |
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| 18:04.14 | pupnik | while running a scp -r -c blowfish from rootfs to PC i see about 57-67% cpu |
| 18:04.59 | pupnik | that speed figure was on it2006 with writes to mmc btw |
| 18:06.13 | Robot101 | hm, I was thinking of ssh literally, rather than scp |
| 18:06.37 | pupnik | hehe |
| 18:06.39 | Robot101 | writing to the mmc/flash is pretty slow though, comparing to ramdisk might be interesting |
| 18:06.45 | Robot101 | and -c none |
| 18:06.53 | pupnik | is -c none an option? |
| 18:06.57 | erstazi | nfs on the 770? |
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| 18:07.44 | Robot101 | there's definitely a way of turning off the encryption, yes |
| 18:07.47 | Robot101 | it might not be that though |
| 18:07.51 | pupnik | hmm it accepted -c none |
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| 18:08.31 | pupnik | oh Ignoring unknown argument... dropbear doesn't even know the -c command |
| 18:08.42 | erstazi | oops, little x means close |
| 18:09.07 | pupnik | erstazi: there are alternate kernels compiled with nfs support for it2006 - i haven't used it yet |
| 18:09.26 | erstazi | oh |
| 18:09.58 | pupnik | i am still using a potato as a 770 stand with the power-jack plugged in |
| 18:11.01 | erstazi | oh mine came with a little stand |
| 18:11.29 | kamihacker | Robot101, turning of the encryption on ssh? I highly doubt it, it wouldn't be scp/ssh then |
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| 18:12.15 | kamihacker | Robot101, if you don't want encryption use plain old rsync without piping it through ssh |
| 18:12.40 | Robot101 | you can still do host identity checks, passwordless login, etc, but not encrypt the stream |
| 18:13.48 | erstazi | why do you not want encryption? |
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| 18:14.13 | kamihacker | Robot101, maybe with dropbear, I doubt openssh does that |
| 18:14.21 | kamihacker | Robot101, in fact I think it would be out of the RFC |
| 18:15.41 | Robot101 | erstazi: for performance if eg scp is CPU-bound on the 770/N800 |
| 18:15.52 | pupnik | erstazi: would appreciate faster filetransfers over wifi |
| 18:16.28 | Robot101 | if you're copying a file over your LAN from your PC to your tablet, the chances of a MITM by your next-door neighbour are slim, especially if you have a WPA network, which has the benefit of being done for you in hardware |
| 18:16.37 | Robot101 | (well, some of it) |
| 18:16.48 | phabulosa | HI! I am absolutely a beginner and I need your help |
| 18:16.50 | phabulosa | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.17 | pupnik | nsswitch? |
| 18:18.28 | pupnik | http://www.google.com/search?q=scratchbox+nsswitch |
| 18:19.39 | erstazi | I see |
| 18:20.30 | pupnik | if you come up with the definitive answer please teach _Monkey |
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| 18:26.28 | phabulosa | pupnik, thanks, now my apt-get update works! |
| 18:26.54 | pupnik | phabulosa: what URL had the best description of the solution? |
| 18:27.32 | phabulosa | pupnik, I followed the first google hit: http://lists.scratchbox.org/pipermail/scratchbox-users/2007-March/000906.html |
| 18:27.42 | pupnik | ok |
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| 18:27.56 | pupnik | ty |
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| 18:28.39 | phabulosa | pupnik, that link does not has any explaination, do you have some? what does nsswitch do? |
| 18:28.58 | pupnik | it tells the order of how to resolve dns queries |
| 18:29.27 | pupnik | so when you try to connect to www.google.com it usually first checks /etc/hosts, then sends a dns query |
| 18:30.58 | phabulosa | and then? but what I cannot understand is why "wget" can work, but not "apt-get" |
| 18:32.02 | pupnik | i don't remember |
| 18:32.40 | phabulosa | :) pupnik, I will do some research and I will let you know if we meet here again next time. |
| 18:33.04 | pupnik | ok cheers |
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| 18:58.47 | phabulosa | I was trying to upgrade from maemo 3.1 to maemo 3.2, but the package "module-init-tools" was kept back, does it matter? |
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| 19:09.17 | suma | hi i got a problem when i try to run asterisk on maemo |
| 19:09.37 | suma | Nokia770-49:/usr/sbin# ls -al asterisk |
| 19:09.37 | suma | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 717528 Dec 11 23:26 asterisk |
| 19:09.37 | suma | Nokia770-49:/usr/sbin# ./asterisk |
| 19:09.37 | suma | -sh: ./asterisk: not found |
| 19:09.53 | suma | looks funny to everyone, can someone please help me on this |
| 19:14.19 | pupnik | hmm |
| 19:16.09 | pupnik | sure it's an armel file? |
| 19:17.10 | suma | pupnik: how would i check that ? |
| 19:17.38 | pupnik | how did you install asterisk? |
| 19:18.03 | suma | pupnik: i download from this link http://www.cayennegraphics.com/asterisk770/asterisk-1.2.1-nokia770-arm-binary.tar.gz |
| 19:18.08 | suma | and installed with tar |
| 19:18.26 | pupnik | bingo |
| 19:18.30 | suma | or with the instructions mentioned over there http://www.cayennegraphics.com/asterisk770/ |
| 19:18.46 | pupnik | it's for IT2005 |
| 19:18.52 | suma | oh |
| 19:19.04 | suma | oops |
| 19:19.15 | pupnik | "arm" is for it2005 and "armel" is for it2006 afaik |
| 19:19.26 | suma | i c |
| 19:20.15 | suma | you have any idea where i can get the armel for asterisk for IT2006 ? |
| 19:20.40 | pupnik | no i'm sorry - finding packages is a real pita |
| 19:20.54 | suma | pupnik: i understand |
| 19:21.08 | pupnik | also it might help the world if you emailed the guy who runs that page |
| 19:21.26 | pupnik | ask him/her to update it with a new build, or at least mention that it's only for it2005 |
| 19:21.53 | suma | pupnik: is there is anyway to get the development environment to get setup in powerpc processor ? |
| 19:22.26 | pupnik | if you have the scratchbox packages and qemu, maybe |
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| 19:32.04 | NeoStrider | pupnik, arm is for it2005 only (confirmation) |
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| 19:39.39 | zeenix | bilboed: if you can wait till tomorrow, i can do it for you |
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| 19:54.00 | pupnik | multiboot? |
| 19:54.00 | _Monkey | hmmm... multiboot is "LILO supreme being - 5th element - protect *you*" http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_EASILY_Partition_your_MMC_card |
| 19:56.11 | NeoStrider | lunch... |
| 19:58.54 | pupnik | Bom apetite! |
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| 20:01.00 | erstazi | howdy everyone |
| 20:02.05 | pupnik | Eip? ole n?hty aikoihin |
| 20:02.37 | pupnik | did that come out as "Eip?" |
| 20:02.43 | erstazi | heh |
| 20:03.12 | pupnik | or Epia with a curly over the a? |
| 20:03.40 | erstazi | the former |
| 20:03.59 | pupnik | ok thanks |
| 20:04.07 | erstazi | I have UTF-8 |
| 20:04.19 | pupnik | that "was nice to see you" in finnish, mangled by synergy and rxvt |
| 20:04.54 | pupnik | I, for one, welcome our new Finnish overlords! |
| 20:05.39 | pupnik | oh no - "long time no see" |
| 20:06.26 | pupnik | so erstazi are you happy with your new device? |
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| 20:41.32 | tigert | pupnik: actually it means "wow, we havent seen for ages" literally |
| 20:41.38 | tigert | though the meaning you said sure does fit |
| 20:42.00 | tigert | or, yes, "long time no see" |
| 20:47.42 | pupnik | how complex instructions and how much local memory does the dsp have? |
| 20:47.52 | pupnik | silly question i suppose |
| 20:48.01 | pupnik | could a SB16 emulator run entirely on the 770 DSP? |
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| 20:56.43 | NeoStrider | "<pupnik> Bom apetite" NICE! |
| 20:57.45 | pupnik | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/dspprogramming/ i wonder what could all be done with that DSP |
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| 21:00.26 | NeoStrider | what can be done with that? |
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| 21:07.08 | pupnik | yes |
| 21:09.03 | pupnik | lardman was looking into it |
| 21:09.39 | pupnik | for example, i had a program to play back FM midi music, on my motorola 56k dsp back in 1991 |
| 21:10.10 | pupnik | i think the DSP in the 770 must be more powerful and flexible than the 56k |
| 21:10.29 | NeoStrider | sure...we could do some cool games with it |
| 21:10.37 | pupnik | i think it could emulate the yamaha OPL3 fm chip and the sound blaster DSP |
| 21:10.40 | NeoStrider | I would love to have som effects like tempest 2000 |
| 21:10.44 | pupnik | ? |
| 21:10.57 | NeoStrider | you dont know it? |
| 21:11.00 | NeoStrider | do this: |
| 21:11.13 | NeoStrider | download tempest for MAME |
| 21:11.16 | NeoStrider | take some LSD |
| 21:11.20 | pupnik | i see pictures |
| 21:11.21 | NeoStrider | turn on your lava lamp |
| 21:11.23 | NeoStrider | and go play it |
| 21:11.25 | NeoStrider | =-D |
| 21:12.25 | pupnik | watching youtube vids |
| 21:14.05 | pupnik | i don't think the dsp is useful for graphics, maybe i am wrong? |
| 21:14.45 | NeoStrider | maybe I just understood what a DSP is good for |
| 21:14.57 | NeoStrider | s/just/just didnt/ |
| 21:15.12 | NeoStrider | s/didnt/dont |
| 21:15.19 | NeoStrider | s/didnt/dont/ |
| 21:15.26 | NeoStrider | ¬¬ |
| 21:15.56 | pupnik | that reminds me to try kumppa on the 770 |
| 21:16.05 | NeoStrider | whats that? |
| 21:17.05 | nomis | NeoStrider: a cool screensaver. |
| 21:17.27 | pupnik | probably the first to emulate 'video feedback' |
| 21:18.19 | NeoStrider | whats video feedback? |
| 21:19.55 | pupnik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=qCK5GKRohyE |
| 21:20.14 | pupnik | a video camera plus a mirror pointed at a tv |
| 21:20.34 | pupnik | or no mirror |
| 21:21.46 | pupnik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=If0-77J-bS4 this is more typical video feedback |
| 21:22.18 | pupnik | wow they get some nice effects |
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| 21:30.45 | ||cw | yeah that's fun to do |
| 21:34.54 | NeoStrider | ahhh |
| 21:35.01 | NeoStrider | THIS IS SPARTA! |
| 21:35.09 | NeoStrider | s/SPARTA/video feedback/ |
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| 21:38.53 | pupnik | best i ever saw was done with an analog camera, a mirror and a commodore analog monitor |
| 21:39.16 | robtaylor | zeenix: good to see you've converted to git :) |
| 21:43.41 | zeenix | robtaylor: thanks but wouldn't make much of a difference if there are only two devels and only one of them converts to git :( |
| 21:49.23 | robtaylor | well actually its not too bad |
| 21:50.36 | zeenix | robtaylor: btw! you said you might be interested in gupnp when it's ready and i think it's ready now :) |
| 21:50.52 | robtaylor | zeenix: heh, well, needs some control points, i think ;) |
| 21:51.26 | robtaylor | zeenix: its not to bad using git-wvn, its not too different to say, how things are done with the hal repo |
| 21:51.27 | zeenix | robtaylor: oh! you are only interested in UPnP apps, not frameworks? |
| 21:53.49 | robtaylor | zeenix: yep, prely pragmatic on the upnp front ;) |
| 21:53.50 | zeenix | robtaylor: hmm.. i was hoping i can now persuade you to work with me on gupnp-av :) |
| 21:53.50 | robtaylor | zeenix: heh, well i think i've got enough goding projects on at the moment, i'm afraid |
| 21:55.16 | zeenix | robtaylor: you are only interested in specific control points or also the generic one i am writing now? |
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| 22:08.03 | disq | I can't add applications to maemo.org/downloads? |
| 22:08.53 | pupnik | there should be a page describing how to get apps included |
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| 22:09.51 | disq | i could do it before |
| 22:09.57 | disq | already have three apps there |
| 22:11.45 | pupnik | oh, something wrong with maemo.org then? |
| 22:12.07 | pupnik | (just asking0 |
| 22:12.30 | disq | a config problem probably. the floating menu to edit pages doesn't open |
| 22:13.30 | disq | oh. ok i found it |
| 22:13.48 | disq | had to select a category first |
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| 22:22.07 | celesteh | howdy |
| 22:22.29 | celesteh | anybody here try running glimmr on their tablet? http://glimmr.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 22:32.42 | pupnik | looks like a nice app for n800 |
| 22:32.51 | pupnik | share SD card with camera and upload photos on-the-go |
| 22:33.04 | celesteh | yeah that was my idea |
| 22:33.19 | pupnik | does glimmr do auto-resizing? |
| 22:33.30 | celesteh | i don't know. i haven't tried downloading it yet |
| 22:33.42 | celesteh | i was trying to figure out if i wanted to mess with it or write some python scripts |
| 22:34.25 | celesteh | i want something where I can write descriptions, titles and tags and then the application will save the metadata and wait patiently for an internet connection |
| 22:35.06 | celesteh | i'm on os x, so my ability to test stuff or do development is not so great :( |
| 22:36.22 | disq | Kagu media player finally released! |
| 22:36.45 | disq | https://garage.maemo.org/project/kagu (auto install link there) |
| 22:38.05 | pupnik | congrats |
| 22:38.39 | pupnik | i will definitely be trying out these things when i get testing it2007 on mmc |
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| 22:40.20 | disq | works on it2006 too |
| 22:47.31 | pupnik | wow booting from mmc is nice |
| 22:51.18 | pupnik | howto? |
| 22:51.18 | _Monkey | i heard howto was the maemo community HowTo Wiki - http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo |
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| 22:59.09 | erstazi | pupnik, is there any speed advantages booting from mmc? |
| 22:59.18 | erstazi | s/is there/are there/g |
| 23:00.16 | erstazi | thank you infobot |
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| 23:06.54 | Sulis | heh, infobot translates mistakes |
| 23:07.04 | Sulis | s/mistakes/corrections/g |
| 23:07.18 | Sulis | :D |
| 23:07.25 | NeoStrider | infobot is boring |
| 23:07.31 | NeoStrider | s/boring/very useful/ |
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| 23:07.53 | Sulis | hehe |
| 23:08.44 | pupnik | apparently you can connect usb to pc while booted off mmc |
| 23:09.50 | pupnik | i'm just catching up with some things :) |
| 23:09.51 | nomis | pupnik: to access the data on the card? That indeed should be impossible. |
| 23:10.03 | pupnik | http://www.wahlau.org/fun_with_n800_booting_n800_internet_tablet_from_sd_card#2 |
| 23:10.09 | pupnik | check bottom of page |
| 23:10.13 | pupnik | i haven't tried it |
| 23:11.03 | nomis | if you boot off sd-card the filesystem on it is mounted, which means it shouldnt be mounted a second time via USB. |
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| 23:12.09 | pupnik | well on linux i can mount /dev/sda2 and not mount /dev/sda1 |
| 23:13.12 | pupnik | perhaps you can boot off mmcblk0p2 and still mount mmcblk0p1 from pc? |
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| 23:19.44 | NeoStrider | pupnik, checkout mtab and fstab files |
| 23:22.45 | pupnik | yes they're there |
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| 23:26.13 | unique311 | hangovers suck |
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| 23:34.52 | NeoStrider | fellows, whats the name of that rapidshare clone you guys use? |
| 23:35.47 | pupnik | divshare.com |
| 23:37.15 | pupnik | http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting.php <- funny educational video. How to post (and not to post) to forums. (flash) |
| 23:39.23 | NeoStrider | take a look , guys: |
| 23:39.25 | NeoStrider | http://www.divshare.com/download/1406616-ca5 |
| 23:39.30 | NeoStrider | the radar |
| 23:39.30 | _Monkey | the radar is fine with that, as long as I am in charge! |
| 23:39.37 | NeoStrider | its a the right place? |
| 23:39.43 | NeoStrider | or should I place it somewhere else? |
| 23:39.46 | pupnik | what is it |
| 23:40.18 | NeoStrider | the "Radar" |
| 23:40.25 | NeoStrider | it shows the track state |
| 23:40.27 | pupnik | notice when i paste a url, i describe what it is about |
| 23:40.35 | NeoStrider | sorry |
| 23:40.37 | pupnik | what track? |
| 23:40.38 | NeoStrider | its a screenshot |
| 23:40.45 | pupnik | hmm ok |
| 23:41.05 | NeoStrider | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:41.06 | NeoStrider | <NeoStrider> its a the right place? |
| 23:41.08 | pupnik | ahh cool! |
| 23:41.19 | NeoStrider | the radar, is in the right place? |
| 23:41.20 | pupnik | it brings up the image without downloading |
| 23:41.31 | NeoStrider | yeah, its better this way |
| 23:41.33 | pupnik | yes that's where it is most easily seen i think |
| 23:41.50 | NeoStrider | it may cover the trails in 3D |
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| 23:42.04 | NeoStrider | but lots of people wont play looking for the 3D , but for the 2D |
| 23:42.23 | pupnik | then how about the top? |
| 23:42.52 | pupnik | it would not obscure trails there |
| 23:42.55 | NeoStrider | I got some idea of drawing a small cockpit...I dont know...I want you guys to tell me what will look better |
| 23:43.56 | NeoStrider | (the trails on the 2D has some fade efect too ;-) ) |
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| 23:52.43 | pupnik | dd bs=1M if=/dev/mmcblk0p2 | gzip > /media/mmc1/images/IT2006_2.2_Working.gz |
| 23:52.48 | pupnik | yaay i love backups |
| 23:55.54 | pupnik | i hope mmc is smart enough to return nulls for the unused sectors |
| 23:56.11 | pupnik | otherwise i'll be compressing a lot of junk left over from the old data :/ |
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| 23:59.50 | unique311 | pupnik....psx emulator works? |
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