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| 05:35.03 | earl00 | hi, i get a message "Can't create device: Address already in use:" when using blueserial script on the n800 latest firmware, does anyone know how to resolve this? |
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| 06:19.01 | earl00 | this community is brain dead, no response, just a bunch of sleeping zombies |
| 06:19.31 | earl00 | why even have this channel? |
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| 07:19.38 | febb | Hi |
| 07:19.41 | febb | Hola ! |
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| 07:50.51 | pupnik_ | Super Mario Brothers Frustration |
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| 08:47.45 | lardman | morning |
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| 09:00.32 | cbx33 | hey all when my n800 starts up there is a glitch in the audio......is this a bad thing? it used to be perfect |
| 09:03.26 | cbx33 | i guess it's jsut because I've installed apps and stuff now |
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| 09:05.51 | zakx | cbx33: try reflashing it and check if the problem persists |
| 09:06.19 | cbx33 | yeh |
| 09:06.23 | cbx33 | was gonna be my next step |
| 09:06.29 | cbx33 | seems weird though know? |
| 09:06.32 | cbx33 | know = no |
| 09:06.34 | cbx33 | heh |
| 09:06.39 | cbx33 | zakx, does yours? |
| 09:06.42 | zakx | is it just at startup? |
| 09:06.45 | cbx33 | yes |
| 09:06.51 | zakx | at the nokia tune? |
| 09:06.53 | cbx33 | I was guessing it was as it's loading services etc |
| 09:06.54 | cbx33 | yes |
| 09:07.03 | zakx | no external audio devices connected? |
| 09:07.07 | cbx33 | um |
| 09:07.11 | cbx33 | tried it with headphone |
| 09:07.16 | cbx33 | though I think it does it without too |
| 09:07.27 | zakx | sure? |
| 09:07.32 | cbx33 | lemme check |
| 09:07.36 | cbx33 | just powering up now |
| 09:07.39 | zakx | a small glitch is normal with external devices |
| 09:07.47 | zakx | especially speakers |
| 09:07.52 | cbx33 | in the first half of the audio |
| 09:08.03 | cbx33 | turning on now |
| 09:08.38 | cbx33 | the first note has a glitch |
| 09:08.44 | cbx33 | the first high note |
| 09:08.52 | zakx | hm. |
| 09:08.56 | cbx33 | even when no speakers pluged in |
| 09:09.01 | cbx33 | just a small one |
| 09:09.08 | cbx33 | could it be due to what I have installed? |
| 09:09.36 | zakx | hm. |
| 09:09.48 | zakx | depends on what you have installed ;) |
| 09:09.59 | cbx33 | python |
| 09:10.03 | cbx33 | osso-terminal |
| 09:10.05 | cbx33 | wordpy |
| 09:10.08 | cbx33 | skype |
| 09:10.12 | cbx33 | maemo-mapper |
| 09:10.16 | cbx33 | leafpad |
| 09:10.24 | zakx | i could check if mine does the same in some hours |
| 09:10.28 | cbx33 | ok |
| 09:10.58 | zakx | will be at home around 13:00 CEST |
| 09:11.04 | zakx | it's 11:11 now |
| 09:11.42 | cbx33 | ok |
| 09:11.46 | cbx33 | if I'm not here |
| 09:11.51 | cbx33 | I will be popping out shortly |
| 09:12.06 | cbx33 | could you post a mail to silentkeystroke@googlemail.com |
| 09:12.35 | zakx | sure |
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| 09:12.43 | cbx33 | thanks so much |
| 09:12.52 | zakx | you're welcome |
| 09:13.46 | cbx33 | do you have python on yours? |
| 09:13.52 | cbx33 | oh and is xchat same to install |
| 09:13.57 | cbx33 | s/same/safe |
| 09:14.12 | alterego | XChat installed perfectly for me. |
| 09:14.37 | cbx33 | from the strange repo? |
| 09:14.46 | cbx33 | it's not a maemo one or a nokia one |
| 09:14.59 | alterego | So? |
| 09:14.59 | _Monkey | So is there any way to temporarily enable it? |
| 09:15.11 | alterego | You can add it and then remove it :) |
| 09:15.18 | alterego | skyhusker is a nice guy. |
| 09:15.28 | zakx | cbx33: yep, it's much like your setup |
| 09:15.33 | zakx | plus extra packages |
| 09:15.38 | cbx33 | ok cool |
| 09:15.51 | cbx33 | I'm gonna install it....i just hate that startup glitch |
| 09:16.00 | alterego | I consider having is repo on my device an honor and a privilege. |
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| 09:16.03 | cbx33 | maybe I'll just flash now |
| 09:16.03 | zakx | take a look at http://hell.zakx.de/~zakx/sources.list |
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| 09:16.33 | zakx | i gathered pretty much every working repos |
| 09:17.58 | alterego | There's a list on maemo.org on the wiki I believe. |
| 09:18.09 | cbx33 | zakx, hmmmm what should I do....what shoujld I do.... |
| 09:19.00 | cbx33 | heheh |
| 09:19.01 | zakx | alterego: there is, but it's incomplete and, IIRC, not really easy to copy |
| 09:19.40 | cbx33 | I'll go for a reflash |
| 09:19.55 | zakx | good luck :) |
| 09:21.26 | alterego | Meh |
| 09:21.31 | alterego | I just add them as I need them,. |
| 09:22.02 | alterego | I'm starting some development of Hildon Ruby bindings today, |
| 09:22.02 | cbx33 | and then zakx if you tell me yours does the same |
| 09:22.04 | cbx33 | i won't care |
| 09:23.04 | cbx33 | i havn't even managed to get a working repo yet |
| 09:23.08 | cbx33 | sorry |
| 09:23.12 | cbx33 | working dev area |
| 09:24.35 | zakx | i could actually record the startup sound by plugging the n800 into line in. |
| 09:24.53 | zakx | so you could decide whether it's like yours or not. |
| 09:27.39 | zakx | cbx33: just read your blog -- any updates on your programming lessons? |
| 09:28.12 | cbx33 | heheh |
| 09:28.16 | cbx33 | soon hopefully |
| 09:28.30 | cbx33 | zakx, that'd be awesome |
| 09:28.56 | alterego | Yer device _sounds_ funny when it starts up? |
| 09:28.57 | cbx33 | though I've no problem with helpin out....if you wanna start sooner |
| 09:29.01 | cbx33 | yes |
| 09:29.11 | cbx33 | just a little glitch on the first note of the tune alterego |
| 09:29.15 | cbx33 | normal??? |
| 09:29.28 | alterego | Tearing? |
| 09:29.34 | alterego | Sometimes mine does that. |
| 09:29.38 | cbx33 | ahhh |
| 09:29.43 | cbx33 | mine always does that noe |
| 09:29.49 | cbx33 | just a small brokenness |
| 09:29.55 | cbx33 | brb |
| 09:31.02 | zakx | cbx33: it's usually like this: i borrow a python book of the local library, start looking into it, get bored by basics but can't move on to more challenging stuff cause of lack of knowledge |
| 09:31.17 | zakx | and then the book's lying around in my house until i have to return it |
| 09:31.41 | cbx33 | heheh |
| 09:31.45 | cbx33 | I'll challenge you |
| 09:32.07 | zakx | i'd really like to do something productive with python and django |
| 09:32.53 | zakx | (or, even better, with python2.5-hildon ;)) |
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| 09:43.36 | alterego | I'm working on ruby bindings as we speak :P |
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| 09:54.51 | cbx33 | sorry got dc'd |
| 09:55.04 | cbx33 | any replies to my question about formatting memo card? |
| 09:55.32 | zakx | what question? |
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| 09:55.58 | cbx33 | i said my memo card may have suffered some corruption |
| 09:56.04 | cbx33 | wondered about reformatting it |
| 09:56.07 | cbx33 | and how to go about it |
| 09:56.19 | cbx33 | maybe it does aquick fsck on the card or something at boot up |
| 09:56.21 | cbx33 | i dunno |
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| 10:02.51 | rhys | load it onto your main machine and just mk.dosfs on it. |
| 10:06.22 | cbx33 | ok |
| 10:06.30 | cbx33 | may be a problem there :p |
| 10:06.35 | cbx33 | I don't have a reader for it |
| 10:06.38 | cbx33 | shucks |
| 10:06.47 | cbx33 | have to do it round someones house i think |
| 10:08.16 | rhys | you can actually do it on the n800 |
| 10:09.03 | rhys | not sure what i got. search for formatting your card easily on the wiki. |
| 10:09.28 | rhys | im typing this from my nokia. ;-) |
| 10:10.13 | cbx33 | cool |
| 10:10.15 | cbx33 | thanks |
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| 11:11.14 | |tbb| | anyone knows how to use alarmtool? |
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| 12:03.35 | Jaffa | Af'noon. |
| 12:13.58 | eugene | Jaffa: night |
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| 12:26.14 | |tbb| | hi jaffa |
| 12:27.25 | |tbb| | do u know another method to resize applets like your method descriped on mppl.org |
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| 12:34.09 | Jaffa | |tbb|: why do you need another method? |
| 12:36.04 | |tbb| | if i remember correctly i have seen a more comfortable or easier way to do that, but i dont remember. |
| 12:36.59 | |tbb| | have anyone managed to get run the rc17 of mplayer on the new fw? |
| 12:37.01 | maddler | hi all... |
| 12:40.06 | eugene | what is mppl.org? |
| 12:40.23 | Jaffa | eugene: http://www.maemopeople.org/ - maddler's wonderous contribution to Maemo-related blogging |
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| 12:40.46 | eugene | ohh.. |
| 12:41.58 | maddler | Jaffa: :))) |
| 12:42.18 | eugene | maddler: nice blog. i have a blog too. |
| 12:42.51 | maddler | eugene: thank you... |
| 12:42.56 | maddler | :) |
| 12:43.11 | maddler | you blog's link? |
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| 12:43.27 | eugene | maddler: www.kernel.sg/blog |
| 12:44.04 | |tbb| | damn after i have installed mplayer rc17 it wont run anymore, i have installed rc16 then even that wont run anymore |
| 12:45.08 | |tbb| | mplayer interrupted by signal 11 in module: init_video_filters |
| 12:46.09 | eugene | maddler: hope you find it interesting. |
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| 13:01.19 | maddler | eugene: yes, it is :) |
| 13:01.25 | eugene | maddler: :) |
| 13:02.55 | |tbb| | try to use alarmtool, i always get adding event unixtimen_unixtime number but the alarm is nowhere to see and it doesnt seems to work, any documentation on that tool |
| 13:03.13 | eugene | maddler: hope you read it often :) |
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| 13:09.17 | |tbb| | could anyone help to get mplayer running again, ive deinstalled the package with --purge but after reinstalling it, still it doesnt run |
| 13:09.47 | |tbb| | if not, it seems i have to reflash the device |
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| 13:54.53 | |tbb| | curios as root i can play the videos with mplayer but not as user ??? |
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| 13:57.13 | Jaffa | |tbb|: odd. |
| 13:58.37 | |tbb| | odd stays for? |
| 13:59.32 | Jaffa | No, as in "[that's] odd [I've not seen it]" |
| 14:05.04 | |tbb| | who do u means could help here? |
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| 14:08.44 | edt | guess the canola team does not believe the the opensource addage - release early and release often... |
| 14:10.51 | eugene | edt: it's not opensource in the first place |
| 14:11.13 | |tbb| | how could i run mplayer as root from user account |
| 14:13.07 | mlpug | is it possible to open a file in whatever directory? e.g. how do i open xx.png with preinstalled images application in /var/www directory? |
| 14:13.14 | mlpug | fileopen dialog offers only files in /home/user/mydocs ?? |
| 14:14.12 | mgedmin | you could create a symlink /home/user/MyDocs/Root -> / |
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| 14:31.08 | |tbb| | omy goodness, i have said the videos playable as root, i have to correct myself. If i ssh into my n800 as root then i can play the videos with mplayer, from root on the n800 it crashes also |
| 14:38.43 | |tbb| | someone have a clue whats happen here? |
| 14:41.23 | |tbb| | i will reflash the device , cya later |
| 14:41.25 | |tbb| | exit |
| 14:53.36 | edt | eugene at least not yet according to their site... The code would get better with more frequent releases though, say monthly |
| 14:53.53 | edt | there seems to be an idea that a beta needs to be 100% working |
| 14:54.10 | edt | this is not the case - you do need to fix bugs though... |
| 14:54.20 | edt | sometime fast too |
| 14:54.23 | eugene | wic |
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| 15:01.34 | eugene | edt: well, if they are really keen to opensource canola, they should do it right from the beginning, and not when the product is completed. |
| 15:03.02 | alterego | I should probably write down my issues with maemo and submit them to nokia or something. |
| 15:03.15 | alterego | Just little GUI improvements really. |
| 15:08.17 | Jaffa | alterego: very good idea. Probably even better if there's a) one big doc (like Sean Luke's) justifying the rationale, but also b) a series of individual bugs in Bugzilla |
| 15:13.11 | alterego | It's "Summertime" by Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince. |
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| 15:13.35 | cbx33 | what's the easiest way to become root on the n800? |
| 15:13.40 | cbx33 | i need to format a mmc card |
| 15:13.46 | cbx33 | I'll need to be root for that right? |
| 15:13.53 | alterego | You could just plug it into a computer. |
| 15:13.59 | cbx33 | i don't have a connection for it |
| 15:14.01 | milhouse | you can use the file explorer to format the card |
| 15:14.02 | cbx33 | a card reader |
| 15:14.07 | cbx33 | oh? |
| 15:14.09 | cbx33 | can you |
| 15:14.11 | cbx33 | how? |
| 15:14.12 | alterego | The N800 is a card reader. |
| 15:14.17 | milhouse | cbx33: if you just want to format it all as fat |
| 15:14.23 | cbx33 | yeh |
| 15:14.25 | milhouse | cbx33: from the application menu |
| 15:14.26 | cbx33 | i don't care |
| 15:14.28 | cbx33 | cool ok |
| 15:14.29 | cbx33 | thanks |
| 15:14.31 | cbx33 | lemme try that |
| 15:15.02 | cbx33 | alterego, where that's where my problems start |
| 15:15.04 | cbx33 | ed |
| 15:15.16 | alterego | What? |
| 15:15.25 | cbx33 | I was transferring a file to the card....and ubuntu said the transfer was finished |
| 15:15.29 | cbx33 | so i disconnected |
| 15:15.36 | alterego | Did you unmount the drive first? |
| 15:15.39 | cbx33 | after ejecting |
| 15:15.42 | cbx33 | yes |
| 15:15.50 | cbx33 | then i unplugged and n800 said |
| 15:15.53 | cbx33 | the card was corrupt |
| 15:16.00 | milhouse | could be bug 1204 |
| 15:16.02 | alterego | Well, you're doing something wrong. |
| 15:16.03 | cbx33 | after a hard reboot the n800 reads it fine |
| 15:16.12 | milhouse | i've just lost it on the mailing list about nokia's non-comment |
| 15:16.15 | milhouse | regarding that bug |
| 15:16.18 | cbx33 | bug 1024? |
| 15:16.22 | cbx33 | got a link? |
| 15:16.26 | cbx33 | I'll try a format anywho |
| 15:16.29 | alterego | 1204 cbx33 |
| 15:16.32 | milhouse | https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1204 |
| 15:17.23 | cbx33 | also how do you become root on the n800? |
| 15:17.42 | milhouse | either install the "becomeroot" package or set the R&D flag using the linux flasher |
| 15:19.02 | cbx33 | ok |
| 15:19.03 | cbx33 | thanks |
| 15:19.11 | alterego | I like tge R&D mode. |
| 15:19.13 | cbx33 | will os2006 apps work fine on os2007? |
| 15:19.15 | alterego | Simple and effective. |
| 15:19.20 | alterego | No |
| 15:19.21 | cbx33 | never tried it |
| 15:19.24 | cbx33 | what does it do? |
| 15:19.25 | alterego | They wont work at all. |
| 15:19.36 | cbx33 | ok |
| 15:19.41 | cbx33 | what does R&D do? |
| 15:19.53 | milhouse | cbx33: yes, many OS 2006 apps work fine on OS 2007 |
| 15:19.58 | alterego | Just shows some information upon boot and allows you to gainroot :P |
| 15:20.02 | cbx33 | ahh |
| 15:20.03 | cbx33 | ok |
| 15:20.09 | eugene | it looks kind of cool too :) |
| 15:20.18 | alterego | Heh |
| 15:20.26 | cbx33 | milhouse, did you see my message earlier about an audio glitch on the boot sound |
| 15:20.29 | cbx33 | rest of audio is fine |
| 15:21.30 | milhouse | sorry only just started paying attention to irc... probably caused by another process hogging cpu |
| 15:23.02 | cbx33 | yeh |
| 15:23.04 | cbx33 | anything to worry about? |
| 15:23.16 | milhouse | not unless it beceomes more serious |
| 15:28.14 | cbx33 | gonna reflash today anyway |
| 15:28.32 | eugene | something wrong with planet maemo |
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| 15:59.29 | Jaffa | Make sure you get gold plated contacts so your MP3s don't lose quality when you copy them. |
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| 16:01.16 | pete__ | does the backup stuff work well now? |
| 16:01.22 | pete__ | if i reflash can i keep my settings |
| 16:04.08 | outtolunc | oh that was cute.. maemoftp must be os2007 <G> |
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| 16:11.22 | outtolunc | at least tnftp (console) works on gregale |
| 16:13.29 | pete__ | like tinyhttpd |
| 16:13.31 | pete__ | :) |
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| 16:25.24 | SeRi | Kontorri are you in?!? :) |
| 16:31.10 | pete__ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 16:31.10 | pete__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.10 | pete__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.10 | pete__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.12 | pete__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:31.22 | pete__ | trying to dist upgrade to sdk 3.2 in scratchbox |
| 16:31.28 | pete__ | any ideas? |
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| 16:43.22 | pete__ | grrr |
| 16:50.11 | pete__ | hmmm |
| 16:50.20 | pete__ | now apt-get update won't resolv |
| 16:50.30 | pete__ | I've edited the resolve.conf |
| 16:50.33 | pete__ | I've edited the resolv.conf |
| 16:50.46 | pete__ | that worked before |
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| 16:56.07 | SeRi | You need to find the ofending repo |
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| 16:59.33 | SeRi | and I bet is |
| 16:59.33 | SeRi | Catalog name: Maemo Repository |
| 16:59.33 | SeRi | Web address: http://repository.maemo.org |
| 16:59.33 | SeRi | Distribution: bora |
| 16:59.33 | SeRi | Components: free non-free extras |
| 16:59.56 | SeRi | Thats the one thats been problematic for weeks now |
| 17:01.15 | dhdfoo | is there any documentation on getting GStreamer to work in the Scratchbox environment? |
| 17:02.27 | dhdfoo | (by which I mean GStreamer audio input/output) |
| 17:02.37 | pete__ | yeh it is |
| 17:02.46 | pete__ | but it worked aminute ago |
| 17:02.56 | pete__ | why isn't it working now SeRi ? |
| 17:03.39 | pete__ | it's doing it really quick, like netowkring is broken |
| 17:03.55 | pete__ | I can resolve it outside of scratchbox |
| 17:04.25 | pete__ | hmmm |
| 17:04.33 | pete__ | it resolves other addresses ok |
| 17:04.36 | pete__ | why not that one? |
| 17:09.34 | SeRi | because they are very unstable |
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| 17:23.45 | eichi | If i use the n800 in usb modus...is the sdcard reading and writing same as a cardreader? can I formate It with an other filesystem? |
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| 17:26.49 | Sulis | mostly i find that having a real card reader is much faster than using the interface through devices like mobiles or the n800 |
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| 17:32.16 | pete__ | SeRi, any ideas why I'm getting this issue |
| 17:32.28 | pete__ | [sbox-SDK_386: ~] > PAGER=less fakeroot apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 17:32.29 | pete__ | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 17:32.29 | pete__ | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 17:32.29 | pete__ | You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these. |
| 17:32.29 | pete__ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 17:32.29 | pete__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.31 | pete__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.35 | pete__ | I'm trying to upgrade to 3.2? |
| 17:32.35 | SeRi | You int the only one! Is everybody who uses the same repo |
| 17:33.00 | pete__ | i fixed that.....edit the nssswitch and tell it just to use dns to resolv and it worked straight away |
| 17:33.12 | pete__ | but i can't dist upgrade |
| 17:35.03 | SeRi | I am staying away from 3.2 until the corruption of the sdcards is address |
| 17:36.08 | pete__ | oh |
| 17:36.15 | pete__ | so 3.1 is still ok to use? |
| 17:37.43 | SeRi | ooo yea I am on 3.1 still |
| 17:38.08 | SeRi | ops I mean 3.2 |
| 17:38.11 | SeRi | :P |
| 17:38.20 | SeRi | Is release 4 the bad one |
| 17:38.25 | SeRi | bad bad release! |
| 17:39.38 | SeRi | ok what the hell.... |
| 17:39.41 | pete__ | hmmm |
| 17:39.48 | pete__ | i just can't update to 3.2 |
| 17:40.16 | SeRi | the sdk? |
| 17:40.25 | pete__ | http://pastebin.ca/619361 |
| 17:40.29 | pete__ | yes |
| 17:40.38 | pete__ | any ideas? |
| 17:40.53 | pete__ | trying to follow http://repository.maemo.org/stable/bora/INSTALL.txt |
| 17:41.23 | SeRi | let me see going to try it my self |
| 17:41.24 | SeRi | brb |
| 17:41.27 | pete__ | ok |
| 17:41.31 | pete__ | let me know how it goes |
| 17:41.37 | pete__ | I added the nokia binaries too |
| 17:48.07 | pete__ | this sucks |
| 17:48.10 | pete__ | pkg-config |
| 17:48.13 | pete__ | where the hell is it |
| 17:48.14 | _Monkey | or the default community theme in Sardine.. |
| 17:48.46 | pete__ | _Monkey, ?? |
| 17:48.46 | _Monkey | i don't know, pete__ |
| 17:48.50 | pete__ | :( |
| 17:49.35 | pete__ | no sdk gurus here? |
| 17:50.22 | pete__ | it seems like 3.1 has a lot of packages that 3.2 doesn't have anymore |
| 17:50.32 | pete__ | and so it can't update them |
| 17:50.39 | pete__ | as there are no upgrade paths |
| 18:07.12 | felipec | pete__: like which ones_ |
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| 18:09.20 | felipec | pete__: are you following http://repository.maemo.org/stable/3.2/INSTALL.txt ? |
| 18:10.55 | felipec | pete__: oh, it's the same... anyway, it says that you first need 3.1 in order to get 3.2 |
| 18:11.39 | felipec | pete__: so the repos should be the same, right? |
| 18:14.01 | gomiam | quick question |
| 18:14.09 | gomiam | I've been trying to use iwconfig to set wlan0 up |
| 18:14.44 | gomiam | but it complains whenever I use the essid option to tell the network I want to connect to. |
| 18:15.07 | gomiam | (and I'm following the information provided by iwconfig --help) |
| 18:15.17 | gomiam | does anybody know whether iwconfig really works? |
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| 18:50.13 | ty | Hello! I just flashed the Hacker OS 2007 on my 770 and am currently trying to get A2DP to work... ehm... not going to well... The packages from Guardiani's website keep returning Incompatible... Can anyone help? |
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| 19:07.08 | pupnik_ | ty how are you installing |
| 19:07.27 | jga23 | is there any way to write an applet for the n800 in python? |
| 19:07.44 | pupnik | yes |
| 19:08.10 | pupnik | !google python n800 OR maemo |
| 19:08.30 | lmoura | pupnik, I'm not sure |
| 19:08.53 | pupnik | what do you mean by 'applet'? |
| 19:09.12 | jga23 | for the main screen |
| 19:09.18 | jga23 | like the clock applet and the fm radio applet |
| 19:09.20 | pupnik | oh nevermind |
| 19:09.31 | lmoura | that's just for the next generation hildon |
| 19:10.15 | jga23 | oh, bummer |
| 19:10.55 | pete__ | felipec, yeh i followed that |
| 19:10.58 | pete__ | I have 3.1 installed |
| 19:11.02 | pete__ | I was trying to upgrade to 3.2 |
| 19:11.13 | pete__ | I have no idea why its not working |
| 19:11.33 | felipec | pete__: which step is not working? |
| 19:12.35 | pete__ | apt-get upgrade |
| 19:12.37 | pete__ | hang on |
| 19:12.38 | pete__ | brb |
| 19:12.56 | procto | Anyone try mplayer's flv capabilities on the n800? |
| 19:13.01 | procto | How's the framerate on that? |
| 19:13.54 | zakx | depends heavily on resolution |
| 19:14.46 | procto | whatever resolution youtube is :> I already made sure it's simple to rip flv's out of youtube pages on the n800 |
| 19:15.00 | procto | and just making sure the framerate on an average youtube video will be watchable |
| 19:15.19 | procto | that and a few other mall points, and I should be ordering an n800 sometime this weekend :> |
| 19:15.41 | zakx | if you'd give me a link to a flv file of your choice i could make a video of it |
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| 19:16.23 | yllus | There's a Canadian web store offering the N770 for $146 CDN, I'm trying to do some research on what apps to load on :) |
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| 19:16.47 | yllus | Though I should ask first, would a 512MB RSMMC card be okay for storage? I can't really find anything bigger |
| 19:16.51 | zakx | although watching youtube videos in opera with the lastest firmware is ok for me |
| 19:16.59 | procto | zakx: |
| 19:16.59 | procto | zakx: 15:15 >>> |
| 19:17.06 | procto | whoops |
| 19:17.07 | procto | zakx: http://www.mediacollege.com/video-gallery/testclips/20051210-w50s.flv |
| 19:17.21 | procto | oh really? you can watch them in opera fine now? |
| 19:17.23 | procto | that's awesome |
| 19:17.31 | procto | I was waiting until skype came unto the n800 |
| 19:17.34 | zakx | yeah, but only when the video's loaded |
| 19:17.37 | procto | and only found out today |
| 19:17.42 | zakx | while loading it's laggy as before |
| 19:17.55 | zakx | i'll make a short video of a youtube video too if you want |
| 19:18.02 | procto | can you watch anything on www.veoh.com? |
| 19:18.13 | procto | no, it's ok, I don't want to cause the hassle |
| 19:18.17 | procto | just your assurance that it plays fine is enough :> |
| 19:18.23 | procto | don't bother with the flv I linked |
| 19:18.45 | zakx | can't fetch it anyway |
| 19:18.45 | zakx | 19:19:36 FEHLER 403: Forbidden. |
| 19:18.53 | yllus | How is rdesktop on the N770? Pretty mature? |
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| 19:19.44 | zakx | cbx33: hey there |
| 19:19.54 | cbx33 | hey |
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| 19:19.58 | zakx | cbx33: didn't notice anything while booting |
| 19:20.05 | cbx33 | i was just _pete |
| 19:20.57 | cbx33 | felipec, i'm back |
| 19:21.27 | cbx33 | zakx, i reflashed all is ok |
| 19:21.44 | zakx | cbx33: alright :) |
| 19:22.37 | ty | Has anyone used A2DP with the 2007 Hacker OS...? |
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| 19:24.22 | cbx33 | felipec you there? |
| 19:24.35 | zakx | procto: opened a video, after loading it played even better than youtube videos |
| 19:24.57 | felipec | cbx33: yes |
| 19:25.04 | cbx33 | zakx what is this |
| 19:25.20 | cbx33 | felipec. it fails at the dist upgrade |
| 19:25.27 | procto | zakx: on veoh.com? |
| 19:25.32 | zakx | procto: yep |
| 19:25.53 | zakx | procto: i filmed it. |
| 19:26.28 | zakx | give me a minute downloading it off the camera and reencoding it |
| 19:31.21 | felipec | cbx33: can you point me to your repos? |
| 19:32.15 | cbx33 | my repos? |
| 19:32.57 | cbx33 | i didn't alter them from the maemo scratchbox install |
| 19:33.25 | cbx33 | apart from adding the nokia binary one |
| 19:34.18 | cbx33 | which is a local repo |
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| 19:35.44 | zakx | procto: http://hd.zakx.de/veoh.mp4 |
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| 19:39.02 | felipec | cbx33: I don't have maemo installed here, that's why I asked |
| 19:39.16 | cbx33 | ahhhh |
| 19:39.20 | felipec | cbx33: but taking a look at the repos I can't find pkg-config neither on 3.1 nor 3.2 |
| 19:40.12 | cbx33 | ok. i'm having trouble with my memo card now. i tried to format. but it's not coming up |
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| 19:40.44 | cbx33 | should the n800restt |
| 19:41.00 | cbx33 | restart after a card format? |
| 19:41.08 | cbx33 | i guess not. |
| 19:41.15 | cbx33 | i'll try again |
| 19:41.41 | felipec | cbx33: I'm sorry, I can't help you now, but I'll try 3.2 soon |
| 19:41.44 | felipec | gotta go |
| 19:41.50 | cbx33 | ok |
| 19:42.08 | cbx33 | hmmm memory card corrupt, or unformatted |
| 19:43.21 | cbx33 | heh i know it's unformatted that's what i'm trying to change |
| 19:43.40 | zakx | cbx33: it shouldn't restart |
| 19:44.02 | cbx33 | i guess it killed my memo card |
| 19:45.07 | cbx33 | hmmm. i'll power down and try taking it out |
| 19:45.07 | zakx | it's not that easy to kill a sd card, is it? |
| 19:45.11 | cbx33 | brb |
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| 19:50.04 | cbx33 | nope, the card is dead |
| 19:51.12 | cbx33 | damn it |
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| 19:56.51 | cbx33 | i can't believe that card is dead |
| 19:57.05 | cbx33 | 1gb too |
| 19:57.55 | procto | zakx: thanks bunches |
| 19:58.06 | cbx33 | there must be a way to get it back |
| 19:58.08 | zakx | procto: you're welcome |
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| 20:04.11 | procto | would a new n800 have the latest firmware on it? |
| 20:04.22 | zakx | most likely not |
| 20:04.28 | procto | s'what I thought |
| 20:04.31 | zakx | but you can flash it on your own easily |
| 20:04.37 | procto | so I'm better off getting a good deal from amazon or ebay |
| 20:04.40 | procto | and just updating |
| 20:04.49 | zakx | it's really no issue |
| 20:05.17 | zakx | download around 80M from nokia, connect the n800 via usb, start the flasher, start the n800, wait 10 seconds, enjoy. |
| 20:05.55 | procto | nice |
| 20:06.03 | procto | I'm about 97% sold on the n800 at this point :> |
| 20:06.15 | procto | beating out the nokia e90 and waiting until october for a useable openmoko |
| 20:06.40 | zakx | don't expect too much from the camera btw. |
| 20:06.48 | procto | not at all |
| 20:06.56 | procto | I actually don't really like cams in my devices |
| 20:06.57 | zakx | you also can't do videochat in skype |
| 20:07.05 | procto | I couldn't find a decent smartphone WITHOUT a camera |
| 20:07.17 | procto | yeah, I know, only gtalk, and only between n800's right? |
| 20:07.38 | zakx | and windows computers until the lastest firmware update |
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| 20:07.55 | zakx | there was a nokia beta service to invite windows users |
| 20:07.57 | procto | you can video gtalk to windows computers now? |
| 20:08.06 | zakx | which is now no more available |
| 20:08.09 | cbx33 | grr now i can't even get root |
| 20:08.19 | procto | oh |
| 20:08.29 | zakx | cbx33: install ssh and ssh root@localhost :P |
| 20:08.30 | Radar | hooray, finally got ncurses-bin to go away, and was finally able to install python! |
| 20:08.46 | cbx33 | no password? |
| 20:08.50 | suihkulokki | procto: nokia e60 is quite decent and without camera |
| 20:08.51 | zakx | password is "rootme" |
| 20:08.57 | cbx33 | ah |
| 20:09.02 | zakx | or try "sudo gainroot" |
| 20:09.10 | zakx | should work too |
| 20:09.18 | procto | suihkulokki: that was my other candidate, but there was something about it that broke it for me. I forget what. |
| 20:09.18 | Radar | dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq ncurses-bin |
| 20:09.26 | Radar | no idea what that does, but it worked, heh |
| 20:09.33 | procto | suihkulokki: the superior web browsing of the n800, however, trumps even the e90 |
| 20:09.35 | zakx | procto: maybe it's the OS ;) |
| 20:09.41 | procto | yeah |
| 20:09.47 | cbx33 | zakx, is that with r&d mode? |
| 20:09.49 | procto | though the s60 python stuff is pretty decent |
| 20:09.58 | procto | the ability to write python is a major must for me |
| 20:10.00 | cbx33 | or become root? |
| 20:10.04 | zakx | cbx33: that should work as soon as you've access to a terminal |
| 20:10.13 | cbx33 | hmmm nope |
| 20:10.17 | zakx | you'd only need r&d for installing ssh |
| 20:10.25 | zakx | IIRC. |
| 20:10.26 | suihkulokki | procto: haven't tried e90. however did compare 770 with 9300i.. and 770 was so much better :) |
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| 20:10.45 | procto | although the e90 is a communicator, and I've been lusting for those since 1997 |
| 20:10.48 | cbx33 | cal_read_block(r&d_mode): size zero, block not found? |
| 20:10.49 | procto | it's VERY expensive |
| 20:11.00 | spec | where can i get python2.4? i get file not found on my 770/mistral |
| 20:11.03 | procto | and the activation fees here in the US for an unlocked, I imagine, would be exorbitant |
| 20:11.12 | spec | http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo2.0/free/p/python2.4/ |
| 20:11.16 | spec | those seem not to exist |
| 20:11.45 | zakx | i really need to buy a bluetooth keyboard |
| 20:12.33 | cbx33 | zakx, sudo gainroot needs becomeroot package. but i can't find it |
| 20:12.43 | pupnik | yeah i was just underway with the n770 without bt keyboard and it suxkced |
| 20:12.44 | zakx | just install ssh then |
| 20:13.18 | cbx33 | does user have a password? |
| 20:15.04 | zakx | i guess you can't login as "user" from remote |
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| 20:15.40 | zakx | user:!:29999:29999::/home/user:/bin/sh |
| 20:15.42 | zakx | no password |
| 20:16.01 | zakx | so you can't login with "user" |
| 20:16.03 | pupnik | are there any decent linux umts cell-phones out? |
| 20:17.10 | spec | umts? |
| 20:17.41 | Sho_ | spec: A 3G technology used in Europe |
| 20:17.59 | spec | ah |
| 20:18.06 | cbx33 | it sucks. i want to try to setup this memo card. |
| 20:19.45 | timtimred | dont know about phones, but if you just want connectivity the vodafone 3g (pcmcia) card works with linux |
| 20:20.54 | cbx33 | i can't believe this card is broken. must have just lost partition table. grrr i can't hook it up to a pc |
| 20:21.40 | zakx | cbx33: no laptop with inbuild sd reader around? |
| 20:21.44 | cbx33 | as i don't have a card reader |
| 20:21.50 | cbx33 | no |
| 20:22.09 | zakx | or any digital camera? |
| 20:22.22 | zakx | they're all able to format sd cards |
| 20:22.24 | cbx33 | not one that takes mmc |
| 20:22.34 | zakx | hum. |
| 20:22.40 | cbx33 | only sd |
| 20:22.59 | zakx | you sure? |
| 20:23.06 | cbx33 | i'll try |
| 20:27.50 | pupnik | ty timtimred |
| 20:28.07 | pupnik | i see some 3g phones now for under 100 euro without contract |
| 20:28.09 | timtimred | np, also works with windows and os x ! |
| 20:28.27 | zakx | i've got a 3g phone |
| 20:28.41 | timtimred | me too, and an unlimited data 3g card from work :) |
| 20:28.45 | zakx | gah. |
| 20:28.52 | pupnik | we should have a wiki page for success stories for pairing nokias with phones |
| 20:29.04 | zakx | usage fees are horrible here |
| 20:29.22 | pupnik | yeah i'd get hit for about 40-50 euro/month |
| 20:29.32 | suihkulokki | pupnik: there was one, but it went horrible, people didn't really understand howto keep it readable |
| 20:30.08 | suihkulokki | pupnik: besides it should word with all phones that support DUN bluetooth profile. If it doesn't, it's a bug :P |
| 20:30.21 | pupnik | ok thanks |
| 20:30.45 | pupnik | BenQ-Siemens EF81 is going for 93.90 euro |
| 20:31.26 | suihkulokki | BenQ-Siemens is going bankrupt. good luck finding service for it. |
| 20:31.29 | zakx | i guess they've been renamed to "nokia siemens" now |
| 20:32.01 | suihkulokki | zakx: that's a different siemens department |
| 20:32.09 | pupnik | hah. umts usage drives battery life down to 3.5 hours on that phone |
| 20:32.10 | cbx33 | hmmmm. i just formatted it on a win mobile 2003 and it worked fine on it. now i plug it in here it's dead again. |
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| 20:32.35 | zakx | cbx33: maybe there's some other problem with it? |
| 20:32.59 | cbx33 | maybe |
| 20:33.03 | cbx33 | sux |
| 20:33.23 | jpt9 | is there any way to get IT2007HE to do subpixel anialiasing of text? |
| 20:34.10 | suihkulokki | jpt9: on 220dpi display? why? |
| 20:35.07 | cbx33 | i'll try formatting it again on a linux machine |
| 20:35.18 | cbx33 | when i can get to one |
| 20:35.40 | suihkulokki | jpt9: but yes it's possible, just recompile freetype with subpixel antialising enabled and configure subpixel antialising as you would on a desktop linux system |
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| 20:38.36 | jpt9_ | sorry... cell phone net access died... |
| 20:39.14 | jpt9_ | any ideas? |
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| 20:40.05 | jpt9_ | i'm thinking something involving xftconfig, but i can't find it. |
| 20:40.05 | pupnik | 22:30 < suihkulokki> jpt9: but yes it's possible, just recompile freetype with subpixel antialising enabled and configure subpixel antialising as you would on a desktop linux system |
| 20:41.04 | jpt9_ | i take it, then, that the version on my device doesn't have subpixel AA support? |
| 20:41.39 | suihkulokki | jpt9: on 220dpi display? why? |
| 20:42.02 | jpt9_ | because i can :-) |
| 20:42.24 | jpt9_ | and for insanely beautiful ebooks |
| 20:42.31 | suihkulokki | you are not going to see anything else than slower text rendering |
| 20:43.16 | pupnik | suihkulokki: people can tell difference between 200dpi and 600 dpi on paper |
| 20:43.24 | pupnik | but the fonts are already antialiased, so |
| 20:44.54 | cbx33 | [ 2960.424255] mmcblk1: mmc1:0001 MMC 1002240KiB |
| 20:45.14 | cbx33 | [ 2960.424499] mmcblk1: p1 < p5 > |
| 20:45.33 | cbx33 | so it recognises the partitions |
| 20:46.00 | cbx33 | but won't mount it. or format it |
| 20:46.20 | cbx33 | grrrrrr |
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| 20:46.35 | zakx | try mounting it on your own? |
| 20:46.48 | cbx33 | can't...not root |
| 20:47.16 | zakx | get root then |
| 20:47.40 | zakx | user ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/mmc-mount /dev/mmcblk0 /media/mmc1 |
| 20:47.41 | zakx | user ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/mmc-mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mmc1 |
| 20:47.44 | zakx | by the way |
| 20:47.54 | cbx33 | well becomeroot doesn't exist and i don't want ssh just yet |
| 20:48.01 | zakx | you're also allowed to user ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/mkdosfs /dev/mmcblk0*, /usr/sbin/mmc-rename /dev/mmcblk0* |
| 20:48.10 | cbx33 | cool |
| 20:52.15 | cbx33 | only on the intetnal one then |
| 20:53.10 | zakx | guess 0 was the external one |
| 20:53.17 | cbx33 | no |
| 20:53.26 | cbx33 | brb |
| 20:53.32 | cbx33 | rebooting |
| 20:53.42 | zakx | yeah i'm wrong |
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| 20:57.27 | cbx33 | zakx, permissiondenied |
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| 20:57.36 | zakx | cbx33: hum? |
| 20:57.40 | zakx | cbx33: prefixed the command with "sudo"? |
| 20:58.49 | cbx33 | ahhhh. attempting to create too large a filesystem |
| 21:01.56 | cbx33 | zakx, any ideas? |
| 21:02.22 | zakx | not really, as I thought that your windows mobile already set up a filesystem |
| 21:02.56 | cbx33 | oh yeh i just tried recreating it |
| 21:03.21 | cbx33 | with the mkdosfs |
| 21:03.54 | zakx | ah- |
| 21:04.28 | zakx | why don't you try mounting the wm2003-partition? |
| 21:04.29 | cbx33 | ah? |
| 21:04.59 | cbx33 | ok. what was legal again? |
| 21:05.03 | zakx | user ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/mmc-mount /dev/mmcblk0 /media/mmc1 |
| 21:05.05 | zakx | user ALL = NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/mmc-mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mmc1 |
| 21:07.22 | cbx33 | /usr/sbin/mmc-mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /media/mmc1 |
| 21:08.13 | cbx33 | mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/mmc1 failed |
| 21:08.45 | zakx | now that's a very supportive error |
| 21:09.01 | cbx33 | heheheh |
| 21:09.11 | cbx33 | i also have a p5 |
| 21:09.52 | zakx | you may not be allowed to mount it, safly |
| 21:09.58 | zakx | -f+d |
| 21:10.04 | cbx33 | hmmm |
| 21:10.29 | cbx33 | well gtg |
| 21:10.45 | zakx | bye |
| 21:10.46 | cbx33 | will format tomorrow |
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| 22:16.27 | alterego | Anyone know what the dbus service for the alert signal is? |
| 22:16.45 | alterego | The signal that triggers a message in the top right hand corner of the display. |
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| 22:31.20 | megabyte405 | aloril: check the maemo development tutorials, I know I saw it there |
| 22:32.40 | alterego | I've found it now if you meant me ;) |
| 22:39.09 | megabyte405 | ah, yes, I did |
| 22:39.15 | megabyte405 | xchat's nick completion isn't mind-reading |
| 22:41.02 | alterego | :D |
| 22:41.06 | alterego | If only ;) |
| 22:42.05 | alterego | I'm just trying to make a complete sh library for system scripting maemo. |
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| 22:43.37 | alterego | Aha, I've finally found some good API documentation ^_^ |
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