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| 00:43.14 | Brenduh | Can anyone give me a clue as to why my 770 is coming on by itself? I go through the "turn device off" thing. I charged it a couple days ago and just went in and the battery is almost dead. I did turn the cover around on it and it is still coming on by itself. |
| 00:49.03 | SeRi | Check that the alarm is off and also check that the alarmd "alarm deamon" is not running |
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| 00:52.02 | Brenduh | how do I do that second part? |
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| 01:22.59 | Trencher | yay linux 2.6.x vm! now i can compile.. i think... |
| 01:23.00 | Trencher | lol |
| 01:23.15 | omnix | i have a 2gb mmcmobile card that I'm trying to partition |
| 01:24.13 | omnix | in this HOWTO, they're creating an ext2 and a VFAT partition. What's the point of the VFAT partition? |
| 01:25.58 | rwhitby | so that the automatic stuff which mounts the card still works, and you can use that vfat bit in the normal file manager GUI |
| 01:31.04 | omnix | how large of a partition do you recommend be VFAT? |
| 01:31.40 | rwhitby | completely up to you |
| 01:32.14 | omnix | if i want to use the mmc card for video files and mp3s, those would be stored in ext2 or vfat? |
| 01:36.45 | Trencher | vfat |
| 01:37.05 | Trencher | vfat is what the device will think is your mmc card |
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| 01:37.13 | Trencher | while the ext2 is what will be the OS flash |
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| 01:39.18 | Trencher | for 2gb, i made the partitions 1,45000,6 and 45001,, |
| 01:39.32 | Trencher | and i got 1.37gb of space for the 'mmc' |
| 01:39.37 | Trencher | and 300mb for apps |
| 01:40.26 | omnix | i think i read your post on the forums trencher |
| 01:40.51 | Trencher | \o/? |
| 01:41.34 | omnix | is the mmcmobile card vfat by default? |
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| 01:42.56 | Trencher | don't think so |
| 01:42.59 | Trencher | mine came RAW |
| 01:43.04 | Trencher | i formatted it fat |
| 01:43.15 | Trencher | then repartitioned it fat/ext2 |
| 01:43.16 | omnix | wouldn't ext2 have better performance than vfat? |
| 01:43.31 | Trencher | possibly, but the devices only take fat cards |
| 01:43.32 | omnix | when accessing video files for example |
| 01:44.55 | Trencher | :( i can't get the vmware image to work.. meh |
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| 01:48.34 | megabyte405 | I think that there is no ext2 module in the kernel by default, IIRC |
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| 01:49.19 | yzf600 | hey |
| 01:49.46 | yzf600 | anyone have any experience in setting up the SDK for maemo |
| 01:50.00 | yzf600 | I'm following the tutorials and ran into a snag |
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| 01:51.49 | yzf600 | I've got Xephyr installed, along with scratchbox |
| 01:52.21 | yzf600 | when I go to run " af-sb-init.sh start" it can't find the shell script |
| 01:52.48 | Trencher | lol i can't even get the prepackaged one to work |
| 01:52.52 | omnix | trencher, how come u only have 1.37gb of space for the mmc? |
| 01:53.03 | omnix | er, mb |
| 01:53.08 | yzf600 | something may have gone wrong with the scratchbox setup as none of the tutorial instructions matched the commands in scratchboox |
| 01:53.13 | omnix | actually no, gb |
| 01:53.18 | Trencher | cuz the rest went to the OS |
| 01:53.30 | omnix | so true capacity of 2gb is 1.67gb? |
| 01:53.35 | Trencher | no |
| 01:53.43 | Trencher | i had 300mb after the os |
| 01:53.47 | Trencher | the os takes up space too |
| 01:53.57 | omnix | oh. are you using a swap file or partition? |
| 01:54.02 | Trencher | file |
| 01:54.07 | omnix | how large? |
| 01:54.10 | Trencher | 64mb |
| 01:54.14 | Trencher | on the vfat |
| 01:54.26 | omnix | why on the vfat? |
| 01:54.53 | Trencher | cuz it's supposed to be on the card and you can't put it in the flash (ext2) |
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| 02:03.53 | ports- | 2gb = 2000mb... |
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| 02:25.49 | Trencher | can anyone here compile something small for me for the 770? |
| 02:26.42 | Trencher | i got that indt sdk image, but it won't start properly.. |
| 02:26.59 | Trencher | i've been trying to find out how to fix the errors, but there's not very much support for this image |
| 02:34.22 | thoughtfix | Okay |
| 02:34.25 | thoughtfix | I finally did it |
| 02:34.34 | thoughtfix | an editorial video on "The N800 is NOT a phone!" |
| 02:35.05 | Trencher | lol |
| 02:35.19 | thoughtfix | I take a dig at one of the popular phones of the day in the middle of the video |
| 02:35.25 | thoughtfix | Hope the YouTube icon turns into that part |
| 02:35.26 | thoughtfix | hehe |
| 02:38.57 | Trencher | :( |
| 02:41.06 | Trencher | noone? |
| 02:43.18 | ports- | lol |
| 02:43.29 | Trencher | :( don't lol at me... |
| 02:43.38 | Trencher | i fail hard at linux |
| 02:44.09 | ports- | no worries. so do i |
| 02:44.33 | Trencher | like someone with agoraphobia trying to go outside for the first time tripping on the doorstep and smashing their face... |
| 02:45.00 | ports- | haha |
| 02:47.57 | thoughtfix | I wish my hair was emo |
| 02:48.02 | thoughtfix | then it would just cut ITSELF |
| 02:48.09 | Trencher | ... |
| 02:48.24 | disq | wonder if n800 skype includes smilies. especially (emo) |
| 02:48.33 | Trencher | ugh |
| 02:49.04 | disq | btw maemoscrobbler 0.1.0 is ready. now gotta add support for it in ukmp and send in a patch. |
| 02:49.26 | thoughtfix | I just tested it. (emo) works |
| 02:49.41 | disq | best skype smiley |
| 02:49.42 | Trencher | ugh |
| 02:50.05 | Trencher | can either of u compile for me? i don't know what i can offer in trade... |
| 02:51.45 | disq | i've been coding for 10 hours now, kinda want to go to bed |
| 02:57.33 | thoughtfix | Video uploaded. Processing now. |
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| 03:03.48 | thoughtfix | http://tabletblog.com/2007/07/nokia-n800-better-without-phone.html |
| 03:06.48 | SeRi | Konttori are you in? |
| 03:08.23 | GeneralAntilles | lol, thoughtfix, that was awesome. :D |
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| 03:21.20 | rwhitby | thoughtfix: nice video |
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| 03:22.17 | thoughtfix | Thanks |
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| 03:22.32 | thoughtfix | I figure everyone else who has been asked that a thousand times can just point to that video |
| 03:23.04 | disq | cracked me up you repeating the same sentence over and over "it's not a phone" |
| 03:25.19 | thoughtfix | My personal favorite part is the Pac Man noise |
| 03:25.36 | disq | hilarious :) |
| 03:26.08 | thoughtfix | My girlfriend is telling me I make funny faces |
| 03:27.42 | rwhitby | I didn't notice anything like that. |
| 03:28.02 | thoughtfix | I can see it later in the video as I am ad-libbing a bit |
| 03:28.36 | thoughtfix | And the iPhone has exactly 40% of the pixels of the N800 |
| 03:29.00 | jacques | heh |
| 03:29.19 | jacques | I was playing with an iphone today |
| 03:29.27 | thoughtfix | 320x480 vs 800x480 |
| 03:32.05 | nelson | I see that there's been a new version published while I was away. |
| 03:33.29 | nelson | thoughtfix: hehe, very funny. |
| 03:34.35 | thoughtfix | :D |
| 03:34.36 | thoughtfix | thanks |
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| 03:52.43 | megabyte405 | hey all |
| 03:53.35 | megabyte405 | Trencher: what are you actually doing with the image? |
| 03:53.38 | megabyte405 | it was plug and go for me |
| 03:56.15 | Trencher | started it |
| 03:56.26 | Trencher | it came up |
| 03:57.28 | Trencher | af-sb-init.sh start |
| 03:57.40 | Trencher | got lots of 'file not found' |
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| 03:57.43 | Trencher | then nothing |
| 03:58.09 | Markov | for some reason my display settings don't seem to be taking effect |
| 03:58.14 | Markov | after new firmware... |
| 03:58.34 | Markov | as in the screen never dims or turns off |
| 03:59.11 | Markov | also the scroll bar in opera disappears for certain sites when i put it in "fit width to window" mode |
| 03:59.48 | Markov | and whenever i touch the screen in maemo mapper, it closes (but, that's always happened) |
| 03:59.53 | megabyte405 | Markov: change your theme, reboot, and change it back |
| 03:59.54 | _Monkey | megabyte405: that doesn't look right |
| 04:00.12 | Markov | megabyte405: that's a solution to which of the problems? |
| 04:00.21 | megabyte405 | the first two, with luck |
| 04:00.27 | Markov | ooo nice |
| 04:00.59 | megabyte405 | Trencher: did you run af-sb-init.sh from within the scratchbox option? (Did it even start? You have to do an echo from within a root shell (sudo su - ) - run /scratchbox/login from a terminal to see the message) |
| 04:04.10 | Markov | hey! that worked11!! thanks megabyte405 |
| 04:04.20 | megabyte405 | Markov: np |
| 04:04.27 | Trencher | scratchbox started |
| 04:04.36 | megabyte405 | there is a big thread at internettablettalk.com that summaries some fixes to common problems with the new firmware |
| 04:04.46 | Trencher | i got the 'Welcome to Scratchbox!' |
| 04:04.46 | megabyte405 | there's a fair amount of "noise" in the thread, but also some good signal |
| 04:04.56 | megabyte405 | Trencher: ok, cool. did xephyr come up? |
| 04:05.00 | Trencher | yeah.. |
| 04:05.01 | Trencher | :5 |
| 04:05.16 | megabyte405 | ok |
| 04:05.46 | Trencher | there's a bunch of: /scratchbox/tools/bin/misc_runner: no such file or directory |
| 04:06.02 | megabyte405 | hmm |
| 04:06.08 | megabyte405 | did you install the nokia restricted stuff? |
| 04:06.16 | Trencher | ran it, said it finished |
| 04:06.18 | Trencher | could try again |
| 04:06.23 | megabyte405 | hmm |
| 04:06.30 | megabyte405 | beats me - it worked right off the bat for me |
| 04:06.47 | Trencher | Nokia binaries repository already installed. |
| 04:07.35 | Trencher | i get SBOX_CPUTRANSPARENCY_METHOD not set too |
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| 04:22.10 | Trencher | i'll try unpacking it again |
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| 04:26.43 | Trencher | loading image |
| 04:26.51 | Trencher | keep uuid |
| 04:28.07 | Trencher | install binaries |
| 04:29.21 | Trencher | done |
| 04:29.52 | Trencher | open scratchbox and run af-sb-init.sh start |
| 04:30.17 | Trencher | ... |
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| 04:30.39 | Trencher | i guess there should be something about NOT trying to run scratchbox before you install the nokia bins |
| 04:31.07 | disq | trevarth1n: hey, there? |
| 04:31.07 | _Monkey | there is probably some app that is drawing a lot of power |
| 04:41.34 | Trencher | megabyte405: where are the kernel sources kept in this image? |
| 04:41.51 | megabyte405 | for scratchbox? |
| 04:42.03 | megabyte405 | probably in /scratchbox/src/kernel or something like that |
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| 04:45.33 | Trencher | no /src |
| 04:46.08 | megabyte405 | how about usr/src |
| 04:47.57 | Trencher | nope |
| 04:49.34 | megabyte405 | beats me |
| 04:49.36 | megabyte405 | did you install it |
| 04:49.37 | megabyte405 | ? |
| 04:49.48 | Trencher | looks like i have to compile my own? |
| 04:49.51 | megabyte405 | fakeroot apt-get install kernel-source-rx-43 or something like that |
| 04:50.38 | Trencher | ah. rx-34 |
| 04:50.39 | Trencher | close |
| 04:50.41 | Trencher | very close |
| 04:50.42 | Trencher | running now |
| 04:50.49 | Trencher | that's pretty good from memory |
| 04:50.59 | Trencher | ty very much |
| 04:51.08 | megabyte405 | not a prob |
| 04:51.22 | megabyte405 | I'm too low on RAM here to actually fact-check before I say something - firefox is a large-memory app |
| 04:51.28 | megabyte405 | but if I think I know something, I'm glad to pass it on |
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| 05:09.09 | Trencher | le-crash |
| 05:09.55 | Trencher | meh |
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| 05:34.58 | Trencher | waaaait |
| 05:35.02 | Trencher | i'm missing something here |
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| 05:35.47 | Trencher | wow |
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| 06:59.50 | disq | mmm. nokia people were visible (answering mailing lists, posting in bugzilla, etc) but now it's dead silent. i smell monday meeting. |
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| 06:59.56 | disq | and i'm bored, yes. |
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| 07:34.18 | cy- | So where does one get the new firmware anyways? "OS 2007 edition v. 3.2007.10-7 includes improvements and fixes in:" from nokia's site.. via http://www.nokiausa.com/A4410958 |
| 07:35.22 | disq | http://tablet-dev.maemo.org/ |
| 07:35.44 | disq | or i think the firmware updater software can download automatically |
| 07:35.48 | Dasajev | http://europe.nokia.com/A4305010 |
| 07:36.16 | disq | (erm sorry it's not tablet-dev apparently) |
| 07:37.42 | cy- | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php |
| 07:37.43 | cy- | cool |
| 07:37.49 | cy- | rockin' |
| 07:37.55 | disq | ah that's it |
| 07:37.56 | cy- | Guess I'll update here shortly :-D |
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| 07:48.42 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 07:50.06 | disq | morning |
| 07:50.44 | Komarov | almost noon here |
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| 07:51.14 | cy- | sup Jaffa |
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| 08:11.27 | cy- | Can anyone verify that flasher.macosx works with the N800? http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/d3.php states "flasher utility (MacOS X on PPC) for the Nokia 770" :P |
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| 08:14.41 | AD-N770 | good morning |
| 08:17.47 | X-Fade | Can somebody confirm the following behaviour on 2007-24: |
| 08:18.38 | X-Fade | Open for example control panel: Press the escape and menu button at the same time with your fat finger and tap somewhere in the application. |
| 08:19.26 | X-Fade | This closes the app. I can do it in the browser, control panel, notes etc etc.. |
| 08:20.08 | inz | X-Fade, if you hold the escape for ~3 secs, any window is closed |
| 08:20.30 | X-Fade | inz: Yes, but this is short press. |
| 08:21.48 | X-Fade | I noticed it when going to the previous page in my browser. It closed the window when I touched the screen after pressing the back button.. |
| 08:22.51 | X-Fade | After trying it out, it seemed that I also pressed the menu button at the same time.. |
| 08:23.11 | inz | X-Fade, true, can reproduce |
| 08:23.47 | X-Fade | Pressing only the back button with my thumb is pretty hard to do for me :) |
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| 08:31.40 | tolgam | hi |
| 08:31.44 | Enok | Where to get apache web server on N800? |
| 08:32.20 | pyhimys | Enok: you don't want to run apache on n800 |
| 08:32.43 | Enok | Why not |
| 08:32.50 | Enok | For local use only |
| 08:33.21 | pyhimys | Enok: well it is kinda biggish |
| 08:33.26 | cy- | Enok: run mongrel or something |
| 08:33.45 | pyhimys | Some would say bloated |
| 08:34.33 | Veggen | hmm. what about thttpd ? |
| 08:34.40 | Veggen | http://maemo.org/downloads/product/thttpd/ |
| 08:34.48 | Enok | Ok I think any web server will do |
| 08:34.51 | Veggen | hmm, for OS2006. |
| 08:36.13 | Veggen | and there's nginx (I have tried neither) |
| 08:40.30 | Enok | Thanks I'll try that |
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| 08:44.11 | gomiam | mmm... has anyboydy compiled the open CX3110 kernel module? |
| 08:44.42 | gomiam | see https://garage.maemo.org/projects/cx3110x/ |
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| 08:59.15 | `0660 | i think yes |
| 08:59.41 | `0660 | at least it's pretty common question if the binary blob needs to be saved separately of that module |
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| 09:13.31 | Komarov | anyone from Nokia here? maybe somebody who knows Jakub Pavelek? |
| 09:15.14 | gomiam | `0660: I haven't set the compiler-chain yet. Do you have binaries for that driver? |
| 09:15.21 | `0660 | no |
| 09:15.27 | `0660 | but search the developer thread |
| 09:15.35 | gomiam | ok, thanks |
| 09:15.38 | `0660 | it was a binary blob you need to copy from the device |
| 09:16.02 | gomiam | I'll look it up then. |
| 09:17.50 | jani | dont know jakub, what about him? |
| 09:18.44 | inz | fsck, I was afk for two days and my ticket system got flooded with spam comments |
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| 09:35.08 | inz | X-Fade, mmh, I think the problem goes like this, 1) you press esc, the timeout for closing is set, 2) you press menu, menu is opened and makes a grab, 3) you release esc, key release goes to the menu |
| 09:35.29 | inz | X-Fade, thus, the timeout is never unset |
| 09:36.00 | inz | X-Fade, I'm also guessing that having a menu open prevents the window from closing on delete-event (you can also close the menu with menu key) |
| 09:36.44 | eugene | hi |
| 09:36.44 | _Monkey | hi, eugene |
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| 10:19.16 | X-Fade_ | inz: Indeed.. esc, menu..wait a little. menu... That also closes the app. |
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| 10:40.16 | cosmo | hello, i'm trying to learn maemo development |
| 10:40.31 | cosmo | first problem: networking does not seem to work in scratchbox |
| 10:40.47 | cosmo | apt-get update causes "Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org'" |
| 10:42.36 | jani | thats common issue.. |
| 10:43.03 | jani | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.20 | inz | and nsswitch.conf |
| 10:43.32 | jani | true, that too. |
| 10:43.39 | inz | or, more precisely /scratchbox/etc/{resolv,nsswitch}.conf |
| 10:44.17 | jani | is this issue commented in the wiki ? its asked alot, should be some sort of faq allready |
| 10:45.38 | Komarov | jani, I've spent days withi this and other bugs around maemo. My advice: find a VMWare image with Ubuntu and scratchbox configured, and just start working@ |
| 10:46.26 | Komarov | they call it maemo appliance or smth like that |
| 10:46.35 | inz | I've made a /etc/network/if-up.d -script that updates my resolv.conf when the network is brought up |
| 10:46.42 | inz | Eases life quite a bit on a laptop |
| 10:49.07 | jani | Komarov: what ? |
| 10:50.03 | jani | i didnt have problem with that =) i was just commenting that maybe the issue should be put to maemo wiki as faq cuz it comes up quite often.. |
| 10:51.03 | Komarov | okaaay... |
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| 10:53.33 | Komarov | oh, jani... I actually addressed that to cosmo! :-D |
| 10:53.56 | jani | =) |
| 10:55.00 | cosmo | Komarov: ok, i'll consider that if setting up sbox seems too hard |
| 10:56.30 | Komarov | in my case double-checking all the setting didn't help: I could ping any domain and get any data from internet - except of 'apt-get update' :-E... |
| 10:57.08 | cosmo | got it working! :) |
| 10:57.12 | rZr | hi |
| 10:57.21 | Komarov | what did you do? |
| 10:57.42 | cosmo | i edited /scratchbox/etc/{resolv,nsswitch}.conf (outside sbox) |
| 10:57.46 | cosmo | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/users/23438 |
| 10:58.10 | cosmo | and restarted sbox |
| 10:59.27 | Komarov | great |
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| 11:14.06 | jani | Komarov: prolly a case thay you where behind a proxy .. |
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| 11:18.58 | Komarov | no, I'm sure I wasn't... |
| 11:20.46 | Enok | How do I use php in nginx on n800? |
| 11:22.03 | Mikho | Does anybody know what do "is_ordered" and "is_unique" mean when defining operation parameters in UML? |
| 11:22.44 | Veggen | Enok: uhm...you don't? ;) |
| 11:23.27 | cosmo | too bad they've stopped developing laika |
| 11:23.27 | Mikho | Also, I'd like to know what do similar qualifiers Leaf, Ordered, Static, Unique, Abstract and Query mean when defining UML operations or attributes |
| 11:23.29 | Veggen | or, read http://blog.kovyrin.net/2006/05/30/nginx-php-fastcgi-howto/ |
| 11:23.32 | Mikho | extremely hard to google |
| 11:30.18 | Komarov | Enok, you plan to make a phishing web-site in an open Wi-Fi network? :-) and to host it on N800? :-D |
| 11:35.02 | Enok | No just local web user interface to launch shell scripts |
| 11:35.10 | Enok | But good idea though |
| 11:36.30 | suihkulokki | "<blink>free wireless access point!</blink> enter credit card number for identity verification only" |
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| 11:42.35 | Enok | There's that php5-fastcgi package in maemo-hackers repository, how to go with that |
| 11:46.13 | cosmo | should it be possible to actually use apt-get in sbox? i'm getting huge missing dependencies list |
| 11:47.31 | jani | cosmo: yes, its possible. however by default, i think there's no repositories defined, only your local installation file. |
| 11:47.37 | jani | not sure thou, i think it was like that. |
| 11:48.36 | cosmo | there is bora repository in sources.list |
| 11:50.26 | cosmo | i'm trying to compile maemopad, but it depends on intltool which isn't installed |
| 11:52.22 | jani | did you use fakeroot with apt-get ? |
| 11:52.33 | jani | prolly not the issue but .. |
| 11:52.54 | cosmo | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.07 | cosmo | "Package intltool is not available, but is referred to by another package." |
| 11:56.18 | eugene | Precompiled kernel with kprobes support for N800 |
| 11:56.21 | eugene | http://eugeneteo.livejournal.com/7002.html |
| 11:56.26 | jani | maybe, again, just maybe, you have missing devkits from scratchbox installation .. |
| 11:56.33 | eugene | let me know how it goes.. |
| 11:57.33 | Enok | Got php working, thanks for any efforts |
| 11:57.34 | jani | cosmo: sb-menu -> show -> choose your target and it will show a dialog that shows what devkits you have .. |
| 11:57.57 | cosmo | i've got debian devkit |
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| 12:01.44 | cosmo | ok, now it compiled. i needed debian-sarge devkit |
| 12:03.31 | Komarov | darn, I'm totally stuck |
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| 12:04.11 | Komarov | how do I login to XTerm under root? |
| 12:04.18 | cosmo | i'll try to get some formal maemo training, but the next one in finland is in fall |
| 12:04.39 | cosmo | Komarov: install gainroot deb, and run gainroot |
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| 12:04.52 | Komarov | thanks |
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| 12:07.29 | draeger | hi everybody, is there a way to backup the current system (apps, config, ...) prior to a firmware update so you dont have to start from scrach again? |
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| 12:27.17 | Komarov | couldn't find such a deb, do I need to follow old 770 instruction, switch to r&d mode, modify gainroot script etc? |
| 12:29.08 | Veggen | draeger: apps no, but config yes. there is builtin backup. I always do an OS-based backup (i.e. tar up the whole thing) in addition, though. |
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| 12:31.17 | draeger | Veggen, hm do you think an rsync of the whole fs will restore my apps as well? |
| 12:32.10 | Veggen | drager: uh. don't do that, as it will wipe out the upgrade in addition :) And probably render the system unusable in the process. |
| 12:32.30 | draeger | Veggen: do'h :) |
| 12:33.13 | Veggen | drager: Do the builtin backup process, then perhaps a dpkg --get-selections to a file you can use as a basis for reinstalling packages. |
| 12:35.45 | Komarov | drager: tell me more details... please |
| 12:35.56 | draeger | Veggen: k, i am mostly concerned about losing the contacts and appointments using GPE but maybe theres a sync too for that somewhere |
| 12:36.27 | cosmo | Komarov: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_easily_becomeroot/ |
| 12:36.32 | Veggen | draeger: hmm, I think the backup procedure will make sure you don't lose that. |
| 12:37.03 | Veggen | And it's anyways in your home dir. I always rsync /home/user somewhere, so you can try to fix manually if it doesn't. |
| 12:37.53 | draeger | kk i'll check out the builtin backup |
| 12:38.00 | draeger | thanks for the help Veggen |
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| 12:39.03 | draeger | Komarov: i hoped for a way to install the new firmware without having to reinstall everything manually |
| 12:39.07 | Veggen | (side note: I do wish it were possible to do an apt-get dist-upgrade, myself. It'd be so convenient) |
| 12:39.21 | eugene | Komarov: http://eugeneteo.livejournal.com/5922.html |
| 12:39.23 | draeger | signed |
| 12:47.38 | Komarov | thanks |
| 12:48.31 | eugene | i wonder how i can add my blog to planet maemo |
| 12:49.15 | gomiam | eugene: do you already have a maemo account? |
| 12:49.24 | eugene | gomiam: yes i have |
| 12:49.45 | gomiam | mmm... if anything, that should be the way to do and add your blog |
| 12:50.06 | gomiam | I can't find a way to do it anonymously (as it should be) |
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| 12:50.15 | Veggen | Installing openssh and ssh to localhost is even easier, I believe, than RD mode and gainroot? |
| 12:50.21 | eugene | gomiam: actually, i have an external blog |
| 12:50.31 | inz | eugene, you can enable rd-mode with the offical flasher too ;) |
| 12:50.45 | eugene | inz: see the comments in that post :) |
| 12:50.51 | eugene | inz: http://eugeneteo.livejournal.com/5922.html?nc=2 |
| 12:52.03 | Veggen | (side note: I always change my /etc/sudoers so that I can sudo su - as soon as I have gotten root the first time) |
| 12:52.41 | inz | eguene, mentioning the "at your own risk" in the post just makes it sound like "official flasher would be safer, but it cannot do this" |
| 12:52.56 | eugene | inz: i know :/ |
| 12:53.13 | eugene | inz: maybe that's why no one wants to try kprobes |
| 13:00.58 | Mikho | is it possible to multi-thread with N770? |
| 13:04.37 | inz | Mikho, sure it is |
| 13:04.52 | keesj | Mikho: like watch porn and read news? |
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| 13:06.13 | Mikho | so, in java I would just inherit a class from Thread. In maemo I would...? |
| 13:06.24 | eugene | inz: any idea who i should talk to to have my blog added to the planet? |
| 13:06.39 | keesj | fork or use pthreads |
| 13:06.52 | inz | eugene, I think you should email planet@maemo.org or something like that |
| 13:07.08 | inz | eugene, someone else decided to add my blog, so I've no idea how it's done |
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| 13:07.54 | Mikho | ok, thanks |
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| 13:08.10 | eugene | nevermind. guess i don't have to get it added there anyways. no big deal :) |
| 13:09.18 | inz | Mikho, do note that in C there's no language level support for threds, you don't have keywords like synchronized |
| 13:09.18 | Komarov | unpacked the 0xFFFF, but there is not install.sh inside |
| 13:09.38 | Komarov | tried to perform ./0xFFFF -r 1 but it said Permission denied... |
| 13:09.42 | Mikho | inz, I'm aware of that. That's why I'm asking :) |
| 13:09.51 | Mikho | never threaded before with C |
| 13:10.29 | eugene | Komarov: sudo su -, or su - |
| 13:10.37 | eugene | Komarov: need root privileges |
| 13:10.47 | Mikho | I guess I should manually solve the critical section problem |
| 13:11.02 | keesj | Mikho: I guess that in c you would more try to build event driver programs (that usualy means you don't need threads) |
| 13:11.11 | eugene | Komarov: just in case you don't know... read the README/INSTALL files... |
| 13:11.22 | Komarov | in the instruction it's said to do: $ cd 0xFFFF-0.2* && sh install.sh |
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| 13:12.01 | Komarov | I don't need r&d mode itself, I'm trying to get root |
| 13:12.28 | Mikho | event driver programs? |
| 13:12.50 | keesj | event driven programming , sorry for my bad spelling. |
| 13:13.11 | eugene | in the INSTALL, it says: |
| 13:13.11 | eugene | Just type: |
| 13:13.12 | eugene | $ make |
| 13:13.25 | eugene | I am not sure where it says sh install.sh |
| 13:14.18 | Komarov | http://www.nopcode.org/0xFFFF/?p=down |
| 13:16.00 | eugene | ok |
| 13:16.06 | Komarov | I dl'ed the binary |
| 13:16.07 | inz | Mikho, in event driven programming you only do things when they're triggered by some event |
| 13:16.19 | Mikho | well, I'm planning of creating a separate thread that reads RFID tags and sends the data to a buffer from which another thread reads the data |
| 13:16.27 | Komarov | I understood I don't need 0xFFFF at this point as I don't have root yet |
| 13:16.57 | eugene | Komarov: no... |
| 13:17.11 | eugene | Komarov: there are many ways to gain root prvileges. enabling r&d mode is one of the ways. |
| 13:17.13 | Mikho | would there be a power efficient solution without threads? |
| 13:17.31 | inz | Mikho, depends on the RFID reader and the length of the processing of read values |
| 13:17.35 | eugene | Komarov: in order to use the flasher program, be it 0xffff or the one provided by nokia, you need to have root privileges in order to flash anything in the first place |
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| 13:18.04 | Mikho | I'd assume the length of processing is pretty short |
| 13:18.56 | inz | Mikho, can you get events from the rfid reader, or do you need to call some function that blocks until there's something to read? |
| 13:20.14 | inz | Mikho, glib has pretty decent main loop that can monitor file descriptors |
| 13:20.57 | Jaffa | eugene: email planet@maemo.org, ferenc's very friendly |
| 13:21.06 | eugene | Jaffa: ok thanks |
| 13:21.22 | Komarov | i'm not sure I can make connection over USB in case when I'm running Ubuntu in the VMWare under Windows |
| 13:21.28 | keesj | Mikho: interesting what are you up to? |
| 13:21.50 | Mikho | I'm not sure how it works |
| 13:22.20 | Mikho | haven't even seen the reader hardware yet |
| 13:23.44 | inz | Mikho, cannot really say then, but I'd guess you'd be better off using glib main loop there |
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| 13:23.50 | Mikho | ok |
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| 13:24.02 | inz | Mikho, threads have a tendency to bite you in the arse when you're not looking ;) |
| 13:24.43 | Mikho | looks like the main problem is power consumption |
| 13:24.47 | Mikho | :) |
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| 13:27.24 | inz | Mikho, there shouldn't be that much difference between two threads, one waiting in read(), and another sleeping in a semaphore/monitor and having one thread sleeping in poll() |
| 13:28.41 | ryanfaerman | mrning |
| 13:28.53 | ryanfaerman | sup? |
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| 13:30.15 | ryanfaerman | yo |
| 13:31.04 | Mikho | three threads? |
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| 13:32.38 | Mikho | Looks like I should review my notes about scheduling threads... |
| 13:32.44 | Komarov | these instructions make me feel totally dumb! |
| 13:32.50 | Komarov | I read here: http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_easily_becomeroot/ |
| 13:32.59 | Komarov | Once you've updated the repositories, you need to install the following packages: * becomeroot * osso-xterm |
| 13:33.05 | Komarov | ...and how do I do that?? |
| 13:34.00 | Komarov | everywhere in the instructions it's said in such a short way that a newbie has to always stop and go look for the missing info somewhere else |
| 13:34.17 | `0660 | that's true |
| 13:34.37 | `0660 | could you please fix those pages when you know how to fix them? :) |
| 13:34.50 | cosmo | Komarov: go to red pill mode and use application manager to install them |
| 13:34.51 | Veggen | Komarov: the rest is done through the application manager. |
| 13:34.58 | Komarov | ha-ha, I start to think I'll never do :-( |
| 13:35.22 | Komarov | I've looked through all the software categories in the App manager |
| 13:35.30 | Veggen | (oh, you need red pill mode? I wish we could get rid of that thing) |
| 13:35.39 | Komarov | I think I have the required libs but when I exec this command - it still says the same |
| 13:35.53 | cosmo | you need to be in red pill to make app manager to show all packages |
| 13:35.56 | Veggen | ...at least for packages that are actually meant to be installed by users. |
| 13:36.09 | Komarov | another surprise... |
| 13:36.53 | Komarov | allright, and I'm supposed to have seen the Matrix film and have in mind which pill color is mode advanced? :-D |
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| 13:37.30 | draeger | especially which one will totally mess up your life ;) |
| 13:38.37 | Komarov | aha |
| 13:39.53 | inz | Mikho, no two threads vs. one thread |
| 13:42.53 | Komarov | uhm... I can't edit that page... |
| 13:43.00 | Mikho | I really don't like polling |
| 13:44.50 | inz | Mikho, poll() isn't polling |
| 13:45.01 | Mikho | erm? |
| 13:45.04 | inz | Mikho, it's quite the opposite |
| 13:45.31 | Mikho | Looks like there's something I didn't quite understand |
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| 13:46.21 | Komarov | allright, I went to Tools > Application catalogue as it's said here: http://hildon-app-mgr.garage.maemo.org/redpill.html |
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| 13:46.36 | Komarov | and where is there "New" that I should click?? there is none |
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| 13:46.39 | Komarov | :-( |
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| 13:49.11 | Dasajev | From the menu, Tools->Application catalog just like it says |
| 13:49.37 | Mikho | I'm planning on creating 3 threads for my application. One that handles RFID reading and creates event to a event buffer, one that monitors the event buffer and one that creates the GUI and finally blocks in gtk_main() |
| 13:49.59 | Mikho | I wonder if I could do with just one |
| 13:50.02 | Mikho | or two |
| 13:50.14 | Komarov | I'm in the Tool->Application catalog, bu I see no "New" button here |
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| 13:50.55 | Veggen | Komarov: perhaps it's from the menu, not button? |
| 13:50.56 | Komarov | There is (from top to bottom) Main screen; Installed applications; Web catalog; Apps to install; Updates |
| 13:51.20 | Komarov | oh!! |
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| 14:04.13 | Komarov | all right... I finally got red pill mode |
| 14:04.31 | Komarov | so now I go and install necessary apps & libs |
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| 14:05.20 | Veggen | Komarov, a warning: be careful about which packages you update while in red pill mode, etc :) |
| 14:05.39 | Veggen | busybox, in particular, isn't very wise to update. |
| 14:05.39 | Komarov | rly?? thanks for warning, but... |
| 14:05.51 | Veggen | (without checking first) |
| 14:05.53 | Komarov | and how about bluez-utils, dbus? |
| 14:06.30 | trevarth1n | Wow, have you guys seen all the SD card corruption issues with the new firmware and SDHC cards?!? |
| 14:06.40 | Veggen | it might be best, for a beginner, to enable red pill mode, install the needed packages, then disable red pill mode again? |
| 14:06.48 | trevarth1n | No way I'm upgrading until that crap is fixed. |
| 14:06.53 | inz | Mikho, if you read the RFID things from a file descriptor, you could create and GIOChannel and add watch it inside the gtk_main() |
| 14:07.07 | inz | -add |
| 14:08.15 | Mikho | hmm |
| 14:08.36 | Komarov | aaaargh... I closed the page with instructions how to become root and now can't find it!! |
| 14:09.14 | Komarov | gotcha! :-D |
| 14:09.40 | inz | Mikho, (see for example g_io_channel_unix_new and g_io_add_watch) |
| 14:10.21 | draeger | Veggen, will/is there be a standalone install for skype which does not require an entire fw update? |
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| 14:10.47 | Komarov | oookaaay.... I try $sudo gainroot |
| 14:10.54 | Mikho | ok, thanks |
| 14:11.50 | inz | Mikho, for multithreaded, see pthread_create, sem_init, sem_wait, sem_post |
| 14:12.00 | Komarov | but it still says the same. what do I do? How can I get info whether I have * becomeroot * osso-xterm? I don't see it in the list of apps to install but I also don't see it in the list of installed apps!! |
| 14:12.13 | inz | Mikho, (monitors are supposedly better than semaphores, but I've never used them ;) |
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| 14:12.46 | draeger | the shell prompt shuld have changed from $ to # |
| 14:13.06 | Komarov | I restarted it, it didn't. |
| 14:13.23 | draeger | it should look like this |
| 14:13.29 | Komarov | I mean I started X Terminal, right? |
| 14:13.30 | draeger | $ sudo gainroot |
| 14:13.33 | draeger | # |
| 14:13.46 | Veggen | draeger: no idea :) I am just a user, not a Nokia developer, myself :) |
| 14:13.59 | draeger | to bad ;) |
| 14:14.10 | Komarov | it says: cal_read_block(r&d mode): size zero, block not found? |
| 14:14.18 | Komarov | Enable RD mode if you want to break your device |
| 14:14.38 | Komarov | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_easily_becomeroot/ |
| 14:14.41 | draeger | then you have to enable r&d mode via the app manager |
| 14:14.42 | Mikho | ok, I'll check those keywords |
| 14:14.44 | eugene | Komarov: didn't you follow the instructions to the url i pointed you? |
| 14:14.59 | Komarov | didn't find any instruction here to go to r&d! that's why I didn't!! |
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| 14:15.15 | eugene | Komarov: http://eugeneteo.livejournal.com/5922.html |
| 14:15.41 | eugene | Komarov: just relax, read through, and follow the instructions. it's very simple. |
| 14:15.56 | eugene | Komarov: download the program, su -, run the program, and you are done. |
| 14:16.24 | Komarov | thanks for you patience guys |
| 14:16.40 | eugene | no worries. |
| 14:18.26 | eugene | Komarov: you might want to learn some basics of apt-get too. dpkg -l to list all installed apps. apt-cache search <app name> to search, and apt-get install <app name> to install. |
| 14:18.28 | Komarov | allright, I follow you instruction in the LJ. I've downloaded the binary, unpacked it and have several dirs, in the bin I see 0xFFFF |
| 14:18.40 | eugene | Komarov: ok. |
| 14:18.45 | Komarov | I made a+x but still if I try to run it I get Permission denied |
| 14:18.46 | eugene | Komarov: type id, and show methe output |
| 14:19.02 | Komarov | user/users |
| 14:19.04 | eugene | good. |
| 14:19.07 | eugene | type su - |
| 14:19.14 | eugene | wait |
| 14:19.18 | eugene | where are you now? |
| 14:19.22 | eugene | in the n800 shell? |
| 14:19.31 | eugene | or your host machine? |
| 14:19.38 | Komarov | uhm... I do it in the X Terminal on the N800 itself :-) |
| 14:19.48 | draeger | :) |
| 14:19.56 | eugene | i have not tried to do it within n800 itself.. :) |
| 14:20.20 | Komarov | I thought I should run it there because the binary is compiled to ARM |
| 14:20.37 | eugene | Komarov: for flashing, it doesn't matter. |
| 14:20.52 | Komarov | so I need to exec it on my host? |
| 14:20.59 | eugene | yes. |
| 14:21.04 | eugene | su - |
| 14:21.09 | eugene | off your n800 |
| 14:21.13 | Komarov | I can't imagine how to setup network between n800 and my host insive a VM |
| 14:21.13 | eugene | ./0xffff blah blah |
| 14:21.16 | eugene | on your n800 |
| 14:21.17 | eugene | done |
| 14:21.53 | Komarov | wait wait wait... and how about the name of that page: |
| 14:21.57 | Komarov | The really EASY way to become root of your Nokia 770 (no ssh, no R&D ...) |
| 14:22.26 | eugene | i have not try that, your on your own. |
| 14:23.24 | Komarov | i'm shocked... |
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| 14:23.47 | Komarov | all that stuff there is so incomplete and old... |
| 14:24.08 | Komarov | and I can't fix it inspite of that it's wiki |
| 14:24.28 | eugene | it's users contributions. user make an effort to update them. |
| 14:24.44 | Komarov | I'm registered, so how do I do that? |
| 14:25.57 | eugene | Komarov: are you using windows? |
| 14:26.04 | Komarov | yeah... |
| 14:26.12 | eugene | Komarov: just use the windows flasher. problem solved. |
| 14:26.23 | Komarov | I also have Ubuntu installed but I can't setup scratchbox there because of that apt-get error |
| 14:26.51 | eugene | Komarov: are you familiar with debian and apt-get stuff? |
| 14:27.17 | Komarov | nope, but I honestly checked and re-checked all the places I should |
| 14:27.27 | Komarov | according to instructions and advices given here |
| 14:27.35 | eugene | Komarov: then honestly, learn the basics first, before you even start working on scratchbox. |
| 14:27.46 | eugene | Komarov: following the instructions blindly won't help you much. really. |
| 14:28.23 | Komarov | I had DNS and network set up normally but apt-get didn't work while everything elsedid |
| 14:28.44 | eugene | that's probably a question you migiht want to ask @ #ubuntu |
| 14:29.49 | Komarov | thanks for an advice... I didn't expect it will be so sophisticated |
| 14:29.50 | eugene | Komarov: another way is to install dropbear ssh (google for some tutorial) |
| 14:30.04 | eugene | Komarov: and then ssh root@n800's ip, and use the password rootme. |
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| 14:30.18 | eugene | Komarov: it's not that complicated really. not sure why it's complicated for you. i'm just trying to help :) |
| 14:31.00 | Komarov | looks like I'm just dummy :-) |
| 14:31.25 | eugene | nah, you just need to learn... you skipped a couple of steps that you shouldn't :) |
| 14:31.29 | inz | eugene, I think the windows flasher doesn't support setting r&d-mode |
| 14:31.31 | Komarov | that's a bad windows programmer habit - to expect that docs are recent and detailed |
| 14:31.46 | inz | Komarov, install dropbear-server and ssh root@localhost ;) |
| 14:31.47 | eugene | inz: oh. ok. thanks, i don't know that |
| 14:32.05 | Komarov | I actually already have it installed, will try... |
| 14:32.25 | Komarov | never worked in a network over USB, need some time |
| 14:32.26 | `0660 | just change the root password quickly... |
| 14:33.00 | Komarov | And I also wasn't born with the knowledge of what the n800 IP is :-D but I'll google it |
| 14:33.12 | eugene | hehe |
| 14:33.21 | eugene | Komarov: if you already have xterm, then type ssh root@localhost |
| 14:34.50 | Komarov | yeah baby!! |
| 14:35.22 | eugene | i think that is a sign of good news |
| 14:35.22 | Komarov | god, I've forgot 10 time what I actually planned to do |
| 14:35.41 | Komarov | before I started this root-war :-) |
| 14:35.51 | eugene | that happens to me a lot too |
| 14:35.56 | eugene | i'm supposed to do something |
| 14:36.15 | Komarov | this is a great way to become a root, I think that old instruction should be replaced by something shorter now |
| 14:36.29 | eugene | it's a matter of preference and choices |
| 14:36.48 | pyhimys | can i use the the flasher-2.0.macosx to update latest firmware to n800? |
| 14:37.12 | pyhimys | Preferably without bricking the device |
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| 14:40.35 | pyhimys | Apparently yes |
| 14:40.50 | pyhimys | I have a g4 powerbook. |
| 14:40.57 | pyhimys | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5731 |
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| 15:00.13 | Komarov | is there Midnight Commander for n800? |
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| 15:28.49 | vbraun | I'm trying to flash my n800 under Fedora 7, but flasher is stuck at "Suitable USB device not found, waiting" |
| 15:32.00 | vbraun | running strace, it seems to search under /dev/bus/usb/00*/* but the n800 does not show up there. |
| 15:32.19 | florian | vbraun: turn it off and on again... you need to be in bootloader for flashing |
| 15:32.23 | vbraun | it is listed in /proc/bus/usb/00*/* |
| 15:32.50 | vbraun | I turned in on with home button, its showing the "NOKIA" screen with the usb symbol in the corner right now. |
| 15:34.09 | florian | Do you have procbususb mounted on /proc/bus/usb? |
| 15:34.51 | vbraun | only proc on /proc type proc (rw) |
| 15:35.31 | florian | ah, then mount that usb stuff in there |
| 15:35.32 | vbraun | is there a procbususb in 2.6.21? |
| 15:37.29 | florian | vbraun: i guess so |
| 15:37.58 | vbraun | Not on fedora, apparently |
| 15:38.22 | vbraun | I flashed with fedora core 6 previously, and that worked |
| 15:38.54 | florian | iirc it is not used per default in some distributions anymore... maybe you need to load a module. |
| 15:40.16 | vbraun | but the flasher looks into /dev/bus/usb/00*/* |
| 15:40.26 | vbraun | so if anything it needs something mounted under /dev |
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| 15:40.50 | vbraun | or maybe some udev rule to create the usb entry? |
| 15:40.58 | chunow | hi |
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| 15:43.47 | vbraun | ok, flashing now after really ugly hack: mv /dev/bus/usb /dev/bus/usb-old && ln -s /proc/bus/usb /dev/bus/usb |
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| 15:48.15 | egsavage | any nokia 770 users around ? was wondering about RAM |
| 15:50.02 | Fatal | i'm online from my 770 atm |
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| 15:53.12 | inz | vbraun, can you do: mount procbususb /proc/bus/usb -t usbfs |
| 15:53.39 | inz | erm |
| 15:53.59 | inz | sorry, my bad |
| 15:54.19 | inz | flasher works for me, and my computer uses /proc/bus/usb (not /dev/bus/usb) |
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| 15:56.18 | xxxx85 | hi |
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| 16:07.42 | vbraun | [root@carrot bus]# mount procbususb /proc/bus/usb -t usbfs |
| 16:07.42 | vbraun | mount: procbususb already mounted or /proc/bus/usb busy |
| 16:07.51 | vbraun | (for the record) |
| 16:09.25 | vbraun | inz: are you using Fedora 7? |
| 16:09.50 | inz | vbraun, nope, ubuntu dapper |
| 16:12.29 | inz | The path comes from libusb, so I'm guessing Fedora is broken |
| 16:12.35 | vbraun | "mount -t usbfs none /dev/bus/usb" works |
| 16:13.09 | vbraun | Either fedora is broken or /dev/bus/usb is depreciated and should be somewhere in /sys |
| 16:13.25 | vbraun | trying to find out which ;-) |
| 16:15.44 | keesj | where can i download that plankton ting? |
| 16:15.50 | keesj | thing |
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| 16:33.40 | Mikho | hmm, glade looks like a sensible choice for creating UI:s for maemo. Does anybody have experience on that? |
| 16:40.23 | dragorn | Look at the maemo dev wiki and see if there are libglade methods for handling the hildon bits |
| 16:40.36 | dragorn | otherwise, yes, presumably as long as you have libglade and xml support on the device it'll work |
| 16:40.54 | dragorn | I usually just build my gtk interfaces in code, but I'm ornery like that |
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| 16:42.11 | Mikho | hmm, my scratchbox has libglade2 but not libglade3 |
| 16:44.09 | Mikho | oh, libglade is 2.0 at max, but glade itself is 3 |
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| 16:49.16 | Presence_ | hey guys...were can I get a good busybox with ping that doesnt segfault when I "ps" |
| 16:50.14 | Presence_ | I have busybox_1.01-4.osso10-ipv6.etc1_armel I dont care about ipv6 |
| 16:50.47 | suihkulokki | you can build a separate ping app |
| 16:51.38 | Presence_ | I dont have a sandbox to compile in :( |
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| 16:53.19 | Presence_ | hmm...stopped segfaulting |
| 16:53.44 | Presence_ | anyone had luck with WPA using cisco LEAP? |
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| 17:06.43 | Presence_ | how do you move apps that installed without asking you where? |
| 17:06.59 | Presence_ | (I want my xterm out of "extras") |
| 17:09.26 | killfill | damn.. i forgot to backup my repos before flashing.. :S |
| 17:10.40 | inz | pres, controlpanel / navigation -> organize |
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| 17:11.45 | Presence_ | cool |
| 17:11.47 | killfill | the skye client is cool.. |
| 17:12.00 | killfill | is there a new SIP client around?.. |
| 17:13.12 | Presence_ | hmm...no "navigation" icon |
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| 17:13.39 | trevarth1n | OK, so I found a name for my ukmp knock off. I'm calling it Kagu Media Player. The mascot is a kagu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kagu And if K.A.G.U. was an acronym (I don't think it is), it would stand for Kagu Ardently Granulates Ukmp, because Kagu is a rewrite of ukmp with a heavy focus on object oriented design. |
| 17:14.49 | trevarth1n | And now, I'm renaming my svn repo and having done with it. :) Too much thinking about recursive acronyms and stupid birds. |
| 17:14.51 | Presence_ | ah, task navigtor |
| 17:16.23 | disq | mmm, nice |
| 17:16.43 | disq | btw, please add maemoscrobbler support? :P |
| 17:17.54 | disq | i've been playing with ukmp, it's supposed to be 5 minutes of work but looks like it's going to take longer, missing some data structures here and there |
| 17:18.47 | trevarth1n | ukmp? missing data structures? huh? |
| 17:19.00 | trevarth1n | This ukmp? http://maemo.org/downloads/product/ukmp/ |
| 17:19.57 | killfill | isnt there a link for "click here to add all apr repositories"?.. :P |
| 17:20.22 | disq | what kind of person keeps the songlist with prepended track numbers |
| 17:20.58 | trevarth1n | disq: why does it matter? :) |
| 17:21.31 | disq | submitting the current playing track/artist/album via dbus, it does :) |
| 17:21.38 | Presence_ | can you increase the ram in the 770? |
| 17:21.49 | gomiam | killfill: there _is_ a link that adds some repositories :-P |
| 17:21.50 | Presence_ | I put a 2G mmc in...but its just storage |
| 17:22.08 | gomiam | (actually, it's a maemo package available through the application manager) |
| 17:22.21 | disq | so i'm making a songlist_clean[] array. not a clean approach but i'll try that first |
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| 17:22.30 | killfill | gomiam: really?.. where? :P |
| 17:22.57 | trevarth1n | disq: Is this ukmp related work? If so, you might want to play with Kongu, it's got a much cleaner object system. Might save you a lot of time. |
| 17:23.04 | trevarth1n | err.... kagu |
| 17:23.11 | trevarth1n | can't remember my own player's name. |
| 17:23.23 | disq | :) kongo. |
| 17:23.29 | trevarth1n | yeah. :) |
| 17:23.44 | trevarth1n | let me know if you want a tar.gz. |
| 17:24.05 | disq | just adding maemoscrobbler support, to test how the api works etc mostly. i might also submit a patch if i get the hang of it |
| 17:24.08 | disq | i do :) |
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| 17:24.26 | gomiam | killfill: look for maemo-repository |
| 17:24.28 | trevarth1n | First, do you have python 2.5? |
| 17:24.41 | gomiam | it's available at the mistral free packages from maemo |
| 17:24.53 | disq | btw, any idea how the song length/position is reported from gst? the integers are awfully big (11650612244 and 233000000000, etc) |
| 17:25.00 | gomiam | then again, you can use my sources.list (I hope you are using n800) |
| 17:25.22 | disq | yeah i have 2.5 |
| 17:25.26 | gomiam | http://educa.feyts.uva.es/~magao/sources.list |
| 17:25.32 | gomiam | it's an oldish copy |
| 17:25.32 | trevarth1n | disq: not sure yet. kagu is a mplayer frontend in it's current state, though I plan to add gst support shortly. |
| 17:25.39 | gomiam | but it might a good place to start |
| 17:25.40 | Presence_ | anyone have luck using a windows box for ip connectivity? |
| 17:25.44 | trevarth1n | ok. kagu requires 2.5. Hang on for a URL. |
| 17:26.02 | gomiam | Presence_: through USB? through WiFi? |
| 17:26.27 | Presence_ | well, it appears that it doesnt support cisco LEAP on wifi. |
| 17:26.36 | Presence_ | I dont know how I could get IP through USB... |
| 17:26.44 | killfill | maemo-repository?.. |
| 17:27.15 | gomiam | killfill: forget about that package. It's a mistral free package at repository.maemo.org |
| 17:27.22 | gomiam | or don't forget about it |
| 17:27.29 | gomiam | it will add a few extra repositories |
| 17:27.33 | killfill | mistral wants an old version of maemo? |
| 17:27.36 | gomiam | nope |
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| 17:27.44 | gomiam | it works perfectly on N800+IT 2007 |
| 17:27.47 | killfill | hm.. /me confused |
| 17:28.01 | gomiam | Presence_: IP over USB requires developer-mode, IIRC |
| 17:28.07 | killfill | well.. ill just stick your sources.list in here.. :) |
| 17:28.08 | killfill | thanks! |
| 17:28.12 | gomiam | http://educa.feyts.uva.es/~magao/sources.list |
| 17:28.14 | gomiam | it's there |
| 17:28.20 | killfill | yup greate |
| 17:28.30 | gomiam | if I drop it here I'll be flood-disconnected |
| 17:28.42 | killfill | ill goto lunch |
| 17:28.43 | killfill | brb |
| 17:28.53 | gomiam | bye |
| 17:28.59 | Presence_ | I wanted IP over bluetooth...and there are docs on it...but the commands tell me "protocol not supported" |
| 17:29.07 | Presence_ | its like I dont have the proper module loaded |
| 17:29.08 | gomiam | ? |
| 17:29.28 | gomiam | I guess I can't help there. I'm using WiFi through and through. |
| 17:30.01 | Presence_ | I use wifi at home with WPA2 PSK...but here I need Leap |
| 17:30.09 | disq | trevarth1n: found it, dividing the gst_time to gst.MSECOND gives you time in miliseconds |
| 17:30.40 | disq | or gst.SECOND for seconds |
| 17:30.50 | gomiam | Presence_: mmm... you have a Bluetooth enabled computer that isn't a laptop, perhaps? |
| 17:30.57 | Presence_ | it is a laptop. |
| 17:31.10 | Presence_ | I can find it when I search... |
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| 17:31.46 | gomiam | and how does that laptop connect to Internet? Over WiFi? |
| 17:32.06 | Presence_ | over either cable or wifi...here I use rj45 |
| 17:32.17 | trevarthan | disq: cool, I'll keep that in mind. |
| 17:32.42 | gomiam | Presence_: you may want to share your cable connection through the WiFi interface |
| 17:33.03 | gomiam | I have done that sometimes. |
| 17:33.17 | Presence_ | ah, I see...set up wifi ad-hoc |
| 17:33.35 | gomiam | Presence_: or even as a host, if your laptop's WiFi cards allows you to. |
| 17:33.44 | gomiam | s/host/access point/ |
| 17:34.10 | gomiam | my USB ZD1211 WiFi card's software lets me set up an AP |
| 17:34.11 | Presence_ | they might detect it as a rogue...but since Im on the security teammm. |
| 17:34.13 | Presence_ | bt would be better |
| 17:34.27 | Presence_ | I have a cisco card that will do pretty much everything |
| 17:34.27 | gomiam | rogue? No problem. Just don't advertise it :-) |
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| 17:34.44 | fuelfive | is there a way to get the WLAN id from the command line? |
| 17:34.54 | gomiam | wlan id? |
| 17:34.58 | gomiam | as in the ESSID? |
| 17:35.09 | gomiam | or do you mean the wlan interface name? |
| 17:35.28 | fuelfive | the number that Nokia uses as a serial number |
| 17:35.31 | fuelfive | under the battery |
| 17:35.34 | fuelfive | also visible in system info |
| 17:35.37 | gomiam | oh, yes |
| 17:35.47 | gomiam | /sbin/ifconfig -a wlan0 |
| 17:36.01 | gomiam | of course, you need to prune the data a bit :-) |
| 17:36.24 | fuelfive | hehe, thanks :) testing it now |
| 17:38.29 | gomiam | script line to get it: |
| 17:39.00 | gomiam | ifconfig -a wlan0|grep HW|cut -f2- -dH|cut -f2 -d\ |
| 17:39.07 | gomiam | there's a space character after d\ |
| 17:39.25 | gomiam | it's a bit convoluted, but it will do the work |
| 17:39.34 | gomiam | since I don't remember whether there's sed in the N800 |
| 17:39.39 | fuelfive | neat thanks |
| 17:39.48 | fuelfive | this saves me a regexp in python |
| 17:41.04 | gomiam | even shorter, since _there is_ sed in N800 |
| 17:41.25 | gomiam | /sbin/ifconfig -a |grep HW|sed -e "s/.*HWaddr //" |
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| 17:42.04 | fuelfive | excellent |
| 17:42.10 | gomiam | then again, since Python has regexp's, you may want to use them inside Python and not as part of a shellscript. |
| 17:42.36 | fuelfive | I have to call commands.getstatusoutput("...") anyway, so I may as well make it one line |
| 17:43.15 | fuelfive | it's cool, this works great |
| 17:43.51 | gomiam | no problem, I'm just curious :-) |
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| 17:43.51 | gomiam | I need to buy a Bt keyboard soon |
| 17:43.57 | gomiam | the virtual kbd gets old quicly |
| 17:44.05 | fuelfive | I just use ssh from my main machine |
| 17:44.05 | gomiam | s/ly/kly/ |
| 17:44.08 | fuelfive | so its not so bad |
| 17:44.20 | gomiam | that's what I'm doing _now_ :-D |
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| 17:44.49 | fuelfive | yeah, bt would make some stuff easier, specifically when I'm off the grid |
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| 17:49.00 | Presence_ | so the 800 is alot better huh? I got the 770 because it was like $159 |
| 17:49.53 | gomiam | Presence_: well, the N800 has double the processor speed (and a FP math coprocessor), double the RAM double the inner Flash, two SD slots (which now support up to 8GB) |
| 17:50.07 | gomiam | yeah, you could say it's a bit better ;-) |
| 17:50.21 | Presence_ | but alot more expensive :) |
| 17:50.25 | gomiam | true, true |
| 17:50.27 | trevarthan | disq: (and anyone else who wants the latest version of kagu) http://www.guardiani.us/kagu-dist-20070709.tar.gz |
| 17:50.33 | Presence_ | I wish I could increase the ram in this thing though |
| 17:51.52 | gomiam | killfill: ok, I found where in /sys lis the WiFi MAC |
| 17:52.04 | trevarthan | disq: I think it's free of memory leaks right now, but it still has a very large memory footprint. I hope to reduce that in the near future. You'll need mplayer and python 2.5 to run it, then: `cd kagu-dist; ./kagu-scanner.py; ./kagu.py` |
| 17:52.08 | gomiam | /sys/devices/platform/wlan-omap/cal_mac_address |
| 17:52.26 | gomiam | fuelfive: /sys/devices/platform/wlan-omap/cal_mac_address has the MAC address of your WiFi card. |
| 17:52.28 | trevarthan | a2dp? |
| 17:52.29 | _Monkey | i think a2dp is working here http://www.guardiani.us/index.php/N800_custom_packages#Bluetooth_ALSA and is good. :) |
| 17:52.35 | ||cw | yeh but the n800 is only a little more expensive that the 770 was when it was new |
| 17:53.00 | trevarthan | disq: if you want a2dp support, follow the instruction on that page above first, then it should just work automatically in kagu. |
| 17:53.05 | fuelfive | wow |
| 17:53.09 | fuelfive | nice find gomiam |
| 17:53.15 | gomiam | O:-) |
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| 17:53.56 | gomiam | curiosity killed the cat, satisfaction brought him back. |
| 17:55.15 | trevarthan | kagu is a complete rewrite of ukmp with a strong focus on object oriented design and a2dp support. You can find it here: http://www.guardiani.us/kagu-dist-20070709.tar.gz |
| 17:55.18 | trevarthan | kagu? |
| 17:55.19 | _Monkey | somebody said kagu was not ukmp! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kagu |
| 17:55.40 | trevarthan | forget kagu |
| 17:55.41 | _Monkey | trevarthan: I forgot kagu |
| 17:55.49 | trevarthan | kagu is a complete rewrite of ukmp with a strong focus on object oriented design and a2dp support. You can find it here: http://www.guardiani.us/kagu-dist-20070709.tar.gz |
| 17:55.52 | trevarthan | kagu? |
| 17:55.53 | _Monkey | it has been said that kagu is a complete rewrite of ukmp with a strong focus on object oriented design and a2dp support. You can find it here: http://www.guardiani.us/kagu-dist-20070709.tar.gz |
| 17:56.06 | trevarthan | good monkey. |
| 17:56.15 | trevarthan | badmonkey? |
| 17:56.15 | _Monkey | badmonkey is a _Monkey that gets no biscuit! |
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| 17:56.25 | gomiam | ermm... where does Maemo store the wireless LAN information? |
| 17:56.35 | gomiam | (AP names, WEP keys and the like) |
| 17:56.47 | trevarthan | goodmonkey is a good _Monkey who gets a biscuit. |
| 17:56.49 | fuelfive | I think it's gconf |
| 17:56.51 | trevarthan | goodmonkey? |
| 17:56.52 | _Monkey | goodmonkey is a good _Monkey who gets a biscuit. |
| 17:56.54 | fuelfive | er, in gconf |
| 17:57.11 | fuelfive | but you can always do iwlist wlan0 scanning |
| 17:57.29 | gomiam | that won't give me the WEP keys I fear :-) |
| 17:57.37 | fuelfive | true true |
| 17:57.40 | trevarthan | forget a2dp |
| 17:57.40 | _Monkey | trevarthan: I forgot a2dp |
| 17:57.56 | fuelfive | gconf stores it, although I don't understand the format of the WPA keys |
| 17:58.26 | trevarthan | a2dp is working here http://www.guardiani.us/index.php/N800_custom_packages#Bluetooth_ALSA and is good. :) If you want a nice frontend GUI for a2dp after following the instructions on that page, ask me about kagu. |
| 17:58.32 | trevarthan | a2dp? |
| 17:58.33 | _Monkey | i guess a2dp is working here http://www.guardiani.us/index.php/N800_custom_packages#Bluetooth_ALSA and is good. :) If you want a nice frontend GUI for a2dp after following the instructions on that page, ask me about kagu. |
| 17:58.49 | trevarthan | goodmonkey |
| 17:58.50 | _Monkey | goodmonkey is probably a good _Monkey who gets a biscuit. |
| 18:00.08 | Presence_ | I wish the 770 used SD cards, I have a buttload of them |
| 18:01.09 | disq | trevarthan: album_cache.tga reading thingy needs exception handling. any albumcache image i could use? |
| 18:05.12 | trevarthan | disq: kagu-scanner.py generates albumcache.tga. |
| 18:05.21 | trevarthan | you should run kagu-scanner.py first. |
| 18:05.34 | disq | ok ;) |
| 18:06.32 | trevarthan | also, for the time being, I think your current working directory needs to be kagu-dist, otherwise the module imports will probably fail. I'll make that more robust when I release a .deb. |
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| 18:07.33 | disq | interested in UnicodeEncodeErrors? :) |
| 18:07.48 | trevarthan | scared of them, yes. |
| 18:08.03 | trevarthan | python is a real pain in the rear when it comes to unicode. |
| 18:08.32 | trevarthan | disq: what is your locale set to? |
| 18:09.05 | disq | en_GB, and LC_TIME is de_DE |
| 18:10.15 | disq | http://pastebin.com/945156 |
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| 18:10.49 | trevarthan | pastebin is slow..... |
| 18:11.04 | disq | very |
| 18:11.35 | trevarthan | disq: still not pulling up. try pastebin.ca maybe? |
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| 18:12.06 | trevarthan | nm. it came up |
| 18:12.15 | disq | try this: http://pastebin.ca/610918 |
| 18:12.16 | disq | ah ok |
| 18:13.49 | trevarthan | disq: I'm not 100% sure how to fix that error. Probably replacing params with params.encode('ascii','ignore') would be the first thing I'd try. |
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| 18:15.17 | trevarthan | I don't have many unicode albums, unfortunately, so testing is difficult for me. |
| 18:15.24 | disq | trying :) |
| 18:16.28 | disq | txdata = urllib.urlencode(params.encode('ascii', 'ignore')) |
| 18:16.29 | disq | AttributeError: 'dict' object has no attribute 'encode' |
| 18:16.33 | disq | anyway i'll play with it some more |
| 18:16.51 | trevarthan | I think python is retarded for not handling ascii conversions more cleverly without throwing exceptions. I welcome any patches you might have for that. |
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| 18:21.58 | trevarthan | Does anyone know of a free, easy to use SVN and Trac hosting solution? I don't like maemo garage because it uses cvsview instead of trac... |
| 18:22.37 | disq | get ferenc to install trac? :P |
| 18:22.56 | jumpula | :) |
| 18:24.39 | disq | trevarthan: params = {'q':imageSearch.encode('ascii', 'ignore')} work, but then you have to also convert album art files to ascii because "image = pygame.image.load(self.art_path)" fails. converting art_path to ascii could work but you also have to actually save the covers as ascii. you know the code best, should be much quicker |
| 18:26.01 | Presence_ | hmm...I need to find multi-player "hunt" for the n770 :) |
| 18:27.14 | Presence_ | Man, I cant believe that verizon is expecting me to pay $59/month for data through my phone |
| 18:27.48 | joshin | How can I disable (or better control) the power savings mode that turns off the backlight and screen? When connected to AC, I want the screen to stay on. |
| 18:27.54 | Presence_ | $44.99 for data, $15 for tether |
| 18:28.59 | trevarthan | disq: actually, I have no idea what is best as I don't have the problem here. Send me a patch that works for you and I'll apply it. I think the root of the problem is that urllib doesn't like unicode. So if you convert a copy of it and pass it to urllib, that might be ok. |
| 18:29.46 | trevarthan | Usually the file system, pygame, and sqlite3 won't have any problem with unicode. It's usually just print statements and other libraries that choke. |
| 18:30.04 | disq | joshin: download acmonitor from here: http://www.guardiani.us/index.php/N800_custom_packages |
| 18:30.16 | joshin | Thanks disq! |
| 18:31.24 | disq | urllib having problems with unicode really sucks. so much stuff is utf8 nowadays on the internet |
| 18:31.47 | trevarthan | I know. I'm really disgusted with that aspect of python. |
| 18:32.54 | trevarthan | I think ultimately I'm going to have to either have programmers in other locales fix the problems for me, or else start collecting sample albums from foreign locales so I can fix it myself... |
| 18:33.11 | killfill | gomiam: hey you there? |
| 18:33.23 | trevarthan | I'd prefer to do the former.... no time for the latter right now, really. |
| 18:34.01 | killfill | guys.. how do i become root?.. sudo -s doesnt seem to work.. |
| 18:34.15 | killfill | im trying to copy gomiam's sources.list in my device.. |
| 18:34.54 | derf | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowDoiBecomeRoot |
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| 18:35.09 | Presence_ | sudo su - when you use the howdoibecomeroot2 script |
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| 18:35.48 | derf | I just always run in R&D mode. |
| 18:35.55 | Presence_ | heh |
| 18:35.57 | _Shurik_ | hello maemen and maewomen |
| 18:36.19 | Presence_ | what keyboards are you guys using? |
| 18:36.30 | Presence_ | and what usb devices are you finding to be useful |
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| 18:37.12 | killfill | hm.. i need sshd.. |
| 18:37.18 | Presence_ | onscreen is ok until you open xterm :) |
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| 18:37.27 | Presence_ | there is both dropbear and openssh |
| 18:37.29 | _Shurik_ | indeed |
| 18:37.48 | Presence_ | I use dropbear even though I was an openssh dev (less space required) |
| 18:37.48 | _Shurik_ | well, It just seems like extra keyboard are just going to be clumsy |
| 18:38.01 | _Shurik_ | unless there was something really small that can be part of the case |
| 18:38.34 | derf | I wouldn't want to lug one around, and certainly wouldn't want to pay $100 for the privelege. |
| 18:39.04 | _Shurik_ | but now a keybard-case that I'm screaming about for a while now... that would be nice |
| 18:39.21 | _Shurik_ | we will never have one though pretty sure |
| 18:39.24 | Presence_ | sshing into it would be fine, but there are problems 1) Not always having an IP, 2) not wanting to drag a pc along, and 3) you dont have gui access to the device |
| 18:39.52 | killfill | cannot find any sshd for n800 ..:S |
| 18:39.56 | _Shurik_ | now, crazy thing but I can't get Xterm installed on the latest firmware |
| 18:40.08 | _Shurik_ | well, libcurses5 actually |
| 18:40.34 | _Shurik_ | pretty sure that I'm just doing something wrong |
| 18:40.48 | _Shurik_ | is there single file install for xterm somewhere? |
| 18:41.39 | Presence_ | yeah |
| 18:41.44 | Presence_ | xterm-osso |
| 18:42.07 | killfill | hm.. ssh root@ip <--- whats the default pass?.. |
| 18:42.17 | derf | rootme |
| 18:42.18 | jumpula | for the device? |
| 18:42.22 | jumpula | rootme, yes |
| 18:42.25 | killfill | aah :) |
| 18:42.45 | derf | Not as fun as "toor" or just "root", but good enough. |
| 18:42.51 | jumpula | root me, my friend / root me again |
| 18:42.56 | killfill | jeje |
| 18:44.04 | killfill | hey guys.. isnt there a sip cliente around?.. (wihtouth counting gizmo) |
| 18:44.26 | _Shurik_ | just use skype :-D |
| 18:44.42 | killfill | yah works grate btw.. just tried it. |
| 18:44.53 | killfill | but i with to use my pbx.. :) |
| 18:45.26 | Presence_ | hahah |
| 18:45.31 | Presence_ | asterix for n800 |
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| 18:53.47 | disq | trevarthan: this works: http://pastebin.ca/610993 |
| 18:54.35 | disq | both with utf8 album names and covers inside utf8 dirs (image.load doesn't like utf8 filenames so i skip them for now) |
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| 19:17.11 | sbaturzio | Aloha! |
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| 19:32.47 | joshin | derf: Thanks for acmonitor! |
| 19:34.16 | maddler | sbaturzio!!! |
| 19:34.34 | sbaturzio | maddler: ciao! |
| 19:34.35 | derf | joshin: Yer welcome. |
| 19:34.45 | disq | maddler! :P |
| 19:34.50 | maddler | disq? |
| 19:34.59 | joshin | Now I just need to find a full screen clock and I can use my 770 as a clock radio (like the chumby). |
| 19:35.28 | vims0r | *fg* |
| 19:35.38 | vims0r | maemo chron |
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| 19:47.16 | Presence_ | is there a moo 2 for the 770 yet? |
| 19:49.17 | Mikho | moo2 for 770 whaat? |
| 19:49.43 | Presence_ | moo2 for the n770 :) |
| 19:49.49 | _Shurik_ | is that compatible with bark 1.4? |
| 19:49.55 | Presence_ | if there is star control 2, moo2 cant be behind |
| 19:49.58 | Presence_ | not far behind |
| 19:50.00 | _Shurik_ | oh |
| 19:50.04 | Mikho | sc2 ftw! |
| 19:50.11 | _Shurik_ | :) |
| 19:50.16 | Presence_ | noone likes sc2? |
| 19:50.23 | _Shurik_ | I haven't tried it yet... how's it on n800? |
| 19:50.29 | Mikho | everyone likes sc2! |
| 19:50.39 | roope | I loved sc2 two-player combat mode. :) |
| 19:50.42 | _Shurik_ | I liked it in the past... nowdays I get horrified when that much time of gameplay is involved |
| 19:50.50 | _Shurik_ | I can't get past pacman... |
| 19:52.51 | Presence_ | there is pacman for the 770? |
| 19:53.25 | _Shurik_ | yes, but you have to load NES emulator :) |
| 19:53.35 | _Shurik_ | bomberman is the game I love playing though |
| 19:53.46 | _Shurik_ | ah the memories of nights spent with that game |
| 19:55.12 | Presence_ | hmm, shows as n800 |
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| 20:10.19 | Presence_ | where can I get libasound2? |
| 20:10.19 | _Shurik_ | unable to translate |
| 20:11.06 | pupnik_ | Presence_, roope nice to see SC2 fans here |
| 20:12.16 | pupnik_ | Ur-Quan masters now runs reasonably fast on the 770, with .MOD music |
| 20:12.16 | Presence_ | I love sc2 |
| 20:12.25 | Presence_ | well, I need to find it then :) |
| 20:12.59 | pupnik_ | can you help test combat tweaks? |
| 20:13.06 | pupnik_ | and button placement? |
| 20:13.29 | Presence_ | I probably can...but I havent played it in 10 years... |
| 20:14.14 | _Shurik_ | mmmm, mod music |
| 20:14.32 | _Shurik_ | how is it like on n800? |
| 20:14.37 | pupnik_ | i haven't tried it with the remix |
| 20:15.07 | pupnik_ | don't know. knottori did a straight compile of it and it supposedly is playable |
| 20:15.38 | pupnik_ | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/uqm |
| 20:15.54 | pupnik_ | but there will be a new version coming soon |
| 20:15.58 | _Shurik_ | pupnik_: how are you constantly are able to squeeze yet another drop of performance? :) |
| 20:16.41 | _Shurik_ | ... 3 years later: pupnik_: okay guys, Doom3 is now playable at 30fps on n800 |
| 20:16.51 | Presence_ | I cant seem be be able to find libasound2 |
| 20:17.13 | pupnik_ | There are a lot of things that can be done. Most PC SDL games (open source) are not optimized |
| 20:17.24 | pupnik_ | i will look Presence_ |
| 20:17.40 | _Shurik_ | pretty impressive |
| 20:18.07 | pupnik_ | Well i haven't done that much really |
| 20:18.11 | _Shurik_ | I'm really looking forward getting into a bit of maemo coding. Just always one more little project here and there left before I can start exploring... |
| 20:18.25 | Presence_ | is there a windows based sandbox? I seriously doubt there is a sparc based one |
| 20:19.17 | _Shurik_ | windows? vmware -> linux -> scratchbox |
| 20:19.29 | Presence_ | hehe |
| 20:19.33 | Presence_ | that sucks :) |
| 20:19.38 | Presence_ | maybe Ill load colinux |
| 20:19.49 | _Shurik_ | well... I'm yet to try to install it on Fedora 7 |
| 20:20.05 | Presence_ | I have gentoo on colinux |
| 20:20.06 | pupnik_ | what do you need asound for Presence_ ? |
| 20:20.09 | _Shurik_ | I'm not very fluent in *nux word unfortunately, so it will be somewhat fun |
| 20:20.57 | Presence_ | Im a unix guy at heart stuck with windows as a desktop |
| 20:21.21 | Presence_ | pup: It was some audio app I wanted...but after reading it, its so incomplete, its pointless to install |
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| 20:21.53 | Presence_ | so which SC2do I want |
| 20:22.00 | Presence_ | the xsp broken version or the other |
| 20:22.27 | Presence_ | hell, I need a binary |
| 20:22.29 | pupnik_ | for N800 grab konttori's version |
| 20:22.41 | Presence_ | its n770 |
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| 20:22.42 | pupnik_ | for n770 i'll get a new version up .. eh. soon |
| 20:22.51 | pupnik_ | i fixed the xsp doubling a while back |
| 20:23.10 | pupnik_ | i really want to finish the onscreen buttons so we can start testing real gameplay (especially combat) |
| 20:23.40 | Presence_ | is it worth it to get the 770 to boot from mmc? |
| 20:23.59 | _Shurik_ | I guess that's to install programs from MMC? |
| 20:24.03 | pupnik_ | i don't know. i haven't |
| 20:24.19 | pupnik_ | for big games, the data goes to mmc and the executable goes onto the root fs |
| 20:24.22 | Presence_ | they say its 2x faster |
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| 20:25.22 | _Shurik_ | we need a BT game controller |
| 20:25.34 | Presence_ | there are usb ones |
| 20:25.43 | derf | For me the MMC slot has been pretty unreliable. |
| 20:25.44 | _Shurik_ | it's just masachistic to play on the tablet's buttons |
| 20:25.45 | Presence_ | logitech makes some really decent ones |
| 20:25.51 | derf | It regularly just loses the whole card. |
| 20:26.00 | Presence_ | derf: thats unacceptable |
| 20:26.06 | derf | Presence_: No joke. |
| 20:26.10 | _Shurik_ | derf: oh yeah? I've seen some weirdness with new update, but then again seems to be alright |
| 20:26.19 | derf | _Shurik_: The new update made it _better_. |
| 20:26.23 | _Shurik_ | and I have a 8 gig Patriot card in there |
| 20:26.28 | derf | Well, new as in 3 months ago. |
| 20:26.47 | _Shurik_ | really? I didn't see any problems with HCSD kernel |
| 20:28.04 | _Shurik_ | the only problem so far is that n800 "lost" card after I transferred bunch of stuff via usb on it |
| 20:28.14 | _Shurik_ | but I just took it out, and rebooted |
| 20:28.37 | _Shurik_ | plus I think this is because it was trying to re-read it's contents and I interrupted it |
| 20:28.53 | derf | _Shurik_: Right, well, Maemo Mapper can trigger that same behavior. |
| 20:29.07 | _Shurik_ | hm, haven't seen that yet honestly |
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| 20:29.19 | Presence_ | I bought a 2G MMC card...Im hoping that I dont have to mod the kernel to get it to work :) |
| 20:29.20 | _Shurik_ | I can't wait till mapper2 comes out |
| 20:29.23 | _Shurik_ | that jpg crap gotta go |
| 20:29.34 | derf | Mapper2? |
| 20:29.41 | _Shurik_ | Maemo Mapper 2.0 |
| 20:29.45 | _Shurik_ | suppose to be database driven |
| 20:29.54 | derf | I should talk to John more often. |
| 20:30.08 | derf | He sits downstairs. |
| 20:30.10 | Presence_ | does minimo let you set a proxy? |
| 20:30.47 | _Shurik_ | I actually never gotten into minimo. It's incomplete as far as usability goes |
| 20:31.00 | Presence_ | I cant set a proxy with the default opera :( |
| 20:31.00 | _Shurik_ | and opera was able to do all that I need to get done on the tablet |
| 20:31.18 | _Shurik_ | proxies are overrated, just connect directly :-D |
| 20:31.34 | Presence_ | I wanna tunnel the http packets over ssh :) |
| 20:31.37 | Presence_ | for personal reasons |
| 20:31.44 | _Shurik_ | sneaky sneaky |
| 20:32.00 | _Shurik_ | see, I would too, but I can't get wifi reach the bathroom |
| 20:32.06 | _Shurik_ | *kidding* |
| 20:32.13 | Presence_ | hahah |
| 20:32.14 | suihkulokki | Presence_: set the proxy in connectivity settings for your current connection |
| 20:32.32 | Presence_ | if I could get the wifi to work with LEAP I would be set |
| 20:32.41 | Presence_ | hmm |
| 20:32.56 | Presence_ | just dup this connection, and then set a proxy on the second...good idea |
| 20:33.36 | Presence_ | so where can one download the scratchbox for armel? |
| 20:33.54 | pupnik_ | scratchbox? |
| 20:34.18 | pupnik_ | (that was to test if the bot had it stored) |
| 20:34.19 | Presence_ | to cross compile code to armel |
| 20:34.24 | Presence_ | ah |
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| 20:43.18 | pupnik_ | www.scratchbox.org has howtos, Presence_ |
| 20:43.26 | Presence_ | Im looking now :) |
| 20:44.05 | pupnik_ | look at a recent scratchbox howto (> 1.x) |
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| 20:47.39 | Presence_ | Im only seeing 1.0 :) |
| 20:47.46 | V-I-P | would a Nokia Internet Tablet display my blog http://www.dieweisheit.de correct ? I heard handheld devices have trouble with dynamic content... |
| 20:48.37 | Fatal | V-I-P: if it doesn't work w/o javascript, you really need to rethink it |
| 20:49.11 | derf | Half the web doesn't work without javascript anymore. |
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| 20:49.46 | V-I-P | its wordpress, and I think it uses ajax... |
| 20:49.59 | _Shurik_ | well let's see |
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| 20:50.15 | _Shurik_ | oh nevermind, my wifi router is unplugged... I don't want to go into the server room now |
| 20:50.30 | V-I-P | thanx, anyway... |
| 20:50.42 | _Shurik_ | I actually don't think that ajax is all that great, yet |
| 20:50.56 | _Shurik_ | I'd rather see lightning fast html instead |
| 20:51.20 | V-I-P | but its interactive and fancy :) |
| 20:51.25 | _Shurik_ | in couple of years bandwidth is going to be outrageous so won't matter |
| 20:51.42 | _Shurik_ | sure, but sites, especially with high traffic, just absolutely must do both |
| 20:51.48 | _Shurik_ | gmail has either version for example |
| 20:51.59 | _Shurik_ | but I have no problem with ajax gmail so I don't care |
| 20:53.51 | Presence_ | so there is no way to upgrade the flash in the 770 (memory wize...)? |
| 20:54.11 | _Shurik_ | memory-wise? |
| 20:54.13 | Presence_ | yeah |
| 20:54.19 | _Shurik_ | what do you mean? |
| 20:54.22 | Presence_ | I want to have more storage and more operating ram :) |
| 20:54.40 | _Shurik_ | ah... crap.. I'm thinking Flash as in Macromedia :-D |
| 20:54.46 | Presence_ | I can boot from mmc to get more storage, but people are saying its kinda um...glitchy |
| 20:55.11 | trevarthan | disq: I set up an svn checkout url for kagu here: https://www.guardiani.us/svn/kagu/trunk |
| 20:55.27 | Presence_ | I want to use this for pdfs for my dnd game, but the books are huge :P |
| 20:55.28 | trevarthan | If you want, I'll be happy to give to commit access. |
| 20:56.00 | disq | thanks but not for now :) i'll keep an eye on the changes though |
| 20:56.17 | trevarthan | trac repo is here: https://www.guardiani.us/projects/kagu/timeline |
| 20:56.17 | _Shurik_ | well, I don't know |
| 20:56.21 | _Shurik_ | I have n800 |
| 20:56.43 | pupnik_ | i don't run many apps on the 770. Usually an xterm + one other app |
| 20:57.06 | Presence_ | Im ok with 1 at a time |
| 20:57.06 | Presence_ | heh |
| 20:57.11 | pupnik_ | so memory is fine. And after deleting some uneeded stuff i have plenty of room for all my programs |
| 20:57.47 | _Shurik_ | it's like throwing away tools from a toolbox in the garage :((( |
| 20:57.53 | Presence_ | I have installed alot of crap |
| 20:58.10 | _Shurik_ | Aaa, this cracked LCD wallpaper on my laptop is freaking me out |
| 20:58.14 | pupnik_ | yeah after a while i found what i didn't really want |
| 20:58.46 | _Shurik_ | I agree. After all, tablet is really a very specific tool |
| 20:58.55 | _Shurik_ | it's not a crap storage |
| 20:59.04 | _Shurik_ | and it's specific for everyone |
| 20:59.09 | Presence_ | Well |
| 20:59.35 | Presence_ | I bought it because I wanted to have a portable pc to browse with (instead of walking to the desktop or notebook) |
| 20:59.36 | trevarthan | disq: do you have any idea which album it was choking on? Can you give me some sample data so I can reproduce it? |
| 20:59.41 | Presence_ | but I do want it to be private :) |
| 20:59.56 | Presence_ | I dont care about music or videos or any of that crap |
| 21:00.08 | Presence_ | I might use it for wireless site surveys though |
| 21:00.13 | _Shurik_ | yeah, your idea with proxy actyally does make a lot of sence |
| 21:00.15 | _Shurik_ | sense |
| 21:00.27 | _Shurik_ | especially with all the public wifi places |
| 21:00.41 | Presence_ | yep. |
| 21:00.54 | Presence_ | and the system can do it...just not the browser specific... |
| 21:00.57 | _Shurik_ | do you run your own proxy? |
| 21:01.01 | Presence_ | but if I can proxy it |
| 21:01.03 | _Shurik_ | right, that's what I would want |
| 21:01.05 | Presence_ | absolutely |
| 21:01.12 | _Shurik_ | encrypt everything |
| 21:01.12 | Presence_ | pivoxy |
| 21:01.19 | _Shurik_ | need to check it out |
| 21:01.19 | Presence_ | + tor when I really get pissed |
| 21:01.34 | _Shurik_ | tor? |
| 21:01.35 | Presence_ | I need LEAP though :) |
| 21:01.40 | Presence_ | The onion router |
| 21:01.49 | pupnik_ | i'll look into it |
| 21:01.55 | Presence_ | it splits packets between unknown and mostly unpredictable destinations |
| 21:01.57 | disq | trevarthan: the utf8 id tag or utf8_folder_name/album.jpg? |
| 21:02.16 | pupnik_ | got a link Presence_ ? |
| 21:02.36 | Presence_ | for tor, sure...its part of the eff now |
| 21:02.39 | trevarthan | disq: the mp3 file containing the id3 tag, perhaps? Or where I can buy it from? |
| 21:02.45 | pupnik_ | oh tor IS "the onion router" heh. didn't know that |
| 21:02.51 | Presence_ | http://tor.eff.org/ |
| 21:03.07 | _Shurik_ | paranoid much? :) |
| 21:03.07 | Presence_ | its not just http, but thats its primary use |
| 21:03.26 | suihkulokki | I thought spam and trolling was the primary use of tor |
| 21:03.39 | Presence_ | well |
| 21:03.41 | pupnik_ | given european ISP's data-caching requirement, i should really be tor'ing just out of principle |
| 21:03.47 | Presence_ | spamming, trolling, and hacking probably :( |
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| 21:03.58 | disq | trevarthan: any email i can send it to? |
| 21:04.09 | Presence_ | pownce might be useful for the tablet as well |
| 21:04.25 | trevarthan | disq: jesse@guardiani.us |
| 21:04.57 | _Shurik_ | alright, I'm outta here |
| 21:04.58 | _Shurik_ | cya all |
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| 21:05.02 | pupnik_ | cu |
| 21:05.20 | Veggen | mmmf. ,, |
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| 21:10.03 | phaxx | is there a way to mount the root filesystem of the 770 on another machine via USB, or can I only do that with the MMC card? |
| 21:10.38 | pupnik_ | i haven't neard of that being tried |
| 21:10.41 | Presence_ | it looks like its mmc or sd only |
| 21:10.42 | phaxx | I've gone and changed a permission on something, and now I'm getting that lovely white screen. |
| 21:11.12 | Presence_ | I dont wanna think about "reflashing" |
| 21:11.14 | Presence_ | that would suck |
| 21:11.24 | phaxx | it boots, and I can mount the MMC. it clicks when I press buttons, and I even get the little menu when pressing the power button |
| 21:11.28 | phaxx | but no UI |
| 21:11.35 | phaxx | and no way of making it connect to a network so I can ssh in. |
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| 21:12.15 | Presence_ | hmm |
| 21:12.16 | phaxx | :( |
| 21:12.37 | phaxx | the worst thing is, I#m abroad, in the middle of a long trip. just lucky to have access to somebody's laptop for tonight. |
| 21:12.37 | disq | trevarthan: sending (slow upload) |
| 21:12.50 | Presence_ | I wish it would auto-connect to wifi when its in range and has a profile...that would solve it |
| 21:13.04 | phaxx | might be handy. |
| 21:13.08 | pupnik_ | reflashing is pretty painless imo |
| 21:13.16 | derf | pupnik_: Your opinion is wrong. |
| 21:13.19 | Presence_ | pup: but you lose everything :) |
| 21:13.27 | unique311 | whats so special about wimax |
| 21:13.28 | pupnik_ | yeah |
| 21:13.28 | phaxx | perhaps, but itäs the work after the reflashing I want to avoid :) |
| 21:13.35 | Presence_ | I should find a safe "flash' image |
| 21:13.50 | phaxx | I have an rsynced copy of most stuff from a few weeks ago, but it's not everzthing. |
| 21:14.04 | Presence_ | you rsync over ssh or rsync to rsyncd? |
| 21:14.05 | pupnik | derf what's the main think you think should be improved in the reflashing process? |
| 21:14.08 | phaxx | over ssh. |
| 21:14.15 | unique311 | will it allow me to pick up a wireless signal and move long distances without dropping the connection |
| 21:14.16 | Presence_ | thats the best way |
| 21:14.23 | phaxx | it worked. |
| 21:14.34 | phaxx | should have done one more recently. oh well. |
| 21:14.50 | phaxx | even having a package list from dpkg would be very helpful here. |
| 21:14.56 | Presence_ | I wont get to actually play with mine for a few days |
| 21:15.08 | derf | pupnik: The amount of time it takes me to gain root and reinstall and reconfigure applications. |
| 21:15.12 | Presence_ | I usually keep the packages so I know what they are :) |
| 21:15.32 | phaxx | heh. |
| 21:15.46 | Presence_ | whats the chance you could "dump" an fs to a remote box |
| 21:15.56 | Presence_ | does the nokia have "dump"? |
| 21:16.02 | pupnik | it has 'dd' |
| 21:16.09 | Presence_ | dd is close |
| 21:16.14 | Presence_ | should work |
| 21:16.16 | phaxx | use tar for a live szstem. |
| 21:16.28 | Presence_ | tar doesnt always do the right thing |
| 21:16.38 | Presence_ | even dd doesnt always do the right thing |
| 21:16.40 | phaxx | system, stupid german keyboard... |
| 21:16.53 | Presence_ | only dump can be setup to handle a live system properly |
| 21:17.01 | Presence_ | and it keeps track of your last backup :) |
| 21:17.05 | pupnik | i think backing up root filesystems can only really work if you have multi-boot and mmc |
| 21:17.19 | Presence_ | right |
| 21:17.25 | Presence_ | multiboot to the flash |
| 21:17.29 | Presence_ | then use dump to mmc |
| 21:18.04 | Presence_ | to do the mmc |
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| 21:21.05 | samiam010203 | anyone here using pownce on the nokia 770 ? |
| 21:21.15 | pupnik | wazzaat |
| 21:21.17 | phaxx | this may be a silly question, but where can I get the flashing utility for Windows? |
| 21:21.38 | Presence_ | it came on the cd with the device |
| 21:21.49 | Presence_ | sam: I dont think it exists |
| 21:22.05 | phaxx | oh. let's assume I'm 1,000 miles from the drawer where that CD is. :) |
| 21:22.07 | samiam010203 | no pwonce is a website |
| 21:22.13 | samiam010203 | pownce is a website |
| 21:22.30 | samiam010203 | phaxx the flasher is available on nokias site |
| 21:22.58 | phaxx | not from the same place the OS images are, unfortunately. I'll keep looking, ta. |
| 21:23.05 | Presence_ | I thought pownce was the new "digg" guy thing |
| 21:23.31 | samiam010203 | yes |
| 21:23.31 | samiam010203 | it is |
| 21:23.31 | Presence_ | I just mentioned it a bit ago |
| 21:23.31 | samiam010203 | i am using it on the nokia 770 with the minimo browser |
| 21:23.37 | Presence_ | it doesnt work? |
| 21:23.41 | Presence_ | or you want to test it |
| 21:23.52 | samiam010203 | but im trying for the life of me to get it to work with the opera broswer |
| 21:24.16 | samiam010203 | for some reason you cant post to it from within opera browser |
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| 21:29.35 | pupnik | i like html 1.1 |
| 21:30.00 | pupnik | it' a bit inconsistent but it's simple |
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| 21:32.37 | gomiam | killfill: are you still there? |
| 21:43.38 | koos__ | someone with gnome-vfs knowledge? |
| 21:43.59 | Presence_ | gnome on a nokia...man, that would be sloooooooow |
| 21:44.04 | Presence_ | its such a pig |
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| 21:44.38 | koos__ | Presence_: gnome-vfs is default installed (and only for I/O anyhow) |
| 21:45.13 | Presence_ | for the n800? |
| 21:45.26 | koos__ | both |
| 21:45.38 | Presence_ | hmm...Ill need to check the pkg then |
| 21:45.57 | Presence_ | I figured it would be a lightweight wm |
| 21:46.45 | koos__ | no, but it such non-the-less :-) |
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| 21:46.57 | koos__ | s/such/sucks/ |
| 21:47.26 | Presence_ | heh |
| 21:47.39 | Presence_ | it looks like its just a library you can develop to |
| 21:48.02 | koos__ | should have moved to curl .. |
| 21:48.20 | Presence_ | Im glad Im a network guy, and not a software guy |
| 21:48.24 | Presence_ | too much shit in software |
| 21:48.34 | Presence_ | I mean there is a language for everything |
| 21:48.44 | Presence_ | they couldnt just fix perl, or adapt c |
| 21:48.49 | Presence_ | everyone has to have their own |
| 21:48.55 | Presence_ | its like were in the 60s again |
| 21:49.17 | koos__ | Anyhow, the Q is how i get notified about url redirection for http request (I use gnome_vfs_async_open) |
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| 21:50.04 | koos__ | Presence_: because there is no open hardware :-) |
| 21:50.52 | koos__ | Presence_: you would have a network card for every application .. |
| 21:51.21 | Presence_ | hell its getting there |
| 21:51.27 | Presence_ | with the bladeservers and QOS |
| 21:54.05 | Presence_ | gots ta go...have fun all |
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| 21:57.16 | pupnik | cu |
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| 22:07.55 | Ginman | anyone get fceu to work flawlessly? the sound on my install is screwy and its a little slow |
| 22:09.16 | pupnik | n770 or 800? |
| 22:09.31 | pupnik | there is a sound stuttering problem yes |
| 22:09.46 | Ginman | 770 |
| 22:10.10 | pupnik | i am hoping someday we'll see someone port the gp2x emulators to the nokia |
| 22:10.13 | pupnik | they are faster |
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| 23:02.04 | samiam010203 | ping thoughtfix |
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| 23:03.00 | danilo_ | Hi, someone here had this error on "apt-get dist-upgrade" with MaemoSDK ? maemo-af-desktop_2.9.99.25-1_armel.deb - dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 23:03.05 | danilo_ | /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 5: /usr/bin/update-mime-database: cannot execute binary file |
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| 23:05.05 | danilo_ | (Reading database ... 17848 files and directories currently installed.) |
| 23:05.05 | danilo_ | Preparing to replace maemo-af-desktop 2.9.99.23-1 (using .../maemo-af-desktop_2.9.99.25-1_armel.deb) ... |
| 23:05.05 | danilo_ | Unpacking replacement maemo-af-desktop ... |
| 23:05.05 | danilo_ | /var/lib/dpkg/info/maemo-af-desktop.postrm: line 5: /usr/bin/update-mime-database: cannot execute binary file |
| 23:05.05 | danilo_ | dpkg: warning - old post-removal script returned error exit status 126 |
| 23:05.05 | danilo_ | dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ... |
| 23:05.07 | danilo_ | /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 5: /usr/bin/update-mime-database: cannot execute binary file |
| 23:05.09 | danilo_ | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/maemo-af-desktop_2.9.99.25-1_armel.deb (--unpack): |
| 23:05.11 | danilo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.15 | danilo_ | /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/postrm: line 5: /usr/bin/update-mime-database: cannot execute binary file |
| 23:05.17 | danilo_ | dpkg: error while cleaning up: |
| 23:05.19 | danilo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.21 | danilo_ | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 23:05.23 | danilo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:05.25 | danilo_ | E: Sub-process /scratchbox/devkits/debian/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 23:09.16 | jpt9 | hey. |
| 23:09.18 | jpt9 | how's it going? |
| 23:09.27 | jpt9 | quite fun. |
| 23:09.36 | jpt9 | except it was off by a couple of blocks :-) |
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| 23:20.54 | yzf600 | hello |
| 23:21.01 | danilo_ | HI! |
| 23:22.05 | yzf600 | I'm having problems installing the SDK for gregale. |
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| 23:22.15 | danilo_ | What problems? |
| 23:22.34 | yzf600 | I'm trying to follow the install guide on maemo.org |
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| 23:23.03 | yzf600 | I installed scratchbox-core-1.0.6, libs and devkit-debian |
| 23:23.25 | danilo_ | yes |
| 23:23.39 | yzf600 | but I;ve found references to both toolchain-arm-linux and toolchain-cs2005q3.2-glibc |
| 23:24.16 | yzf600 | do I install both of these, and do they get installed under scratchbox ? |
| 23:24.59 | danilo_ | I think so! |
| 23:25.16 | danilo_ | But I'm not a expert on SDK... Its my first day.... |
| 23:25.28 | yzf600 | well the tutorial online doesn't match the scratchbox install commands |
| 23:26.09 | yzf600 | tutorial is wanting you to run sbox-config, but scratchbox tells me that command is old and to run sb-menu |
| 23:26.21 | yzf600 | sb-menu doesn't really map to well to the guide |
| 23:26.57 | danilo_ | Why are you trying to use gregale? |
| 23:26.59 | yzf600 | What it basically boils down to is I can't run the " af-sb-init.sh start" script because my scratchbox environment can't find it |
| 23:27.15 | yzf600 | I'm using gregale because I have a 770 |
| 23:27.52 | danilo_ | hummm.. Its a good reason... lol |
| 23:28.33 | danilo_ | I dont know man.. I'm using bora 3.2 and its working fine... |
| 23:28.39 | danilo_ | all of this commands... |
| 23:28.53 | danilo_ | sb-menu, af-sb-init.sh |
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| 23:31.37 | hein | Handhelds are evil ... I can't stop playing Bejeweled :/ |
| 23:32.16 | danilo_ | I want risk for Maemo!!! lol lol lol. It is a evil game... lol |
| 23:32.39 | hein | danilo_: Thank god the Freeciv port wasn't updated for ITOS2007 |
| 23:34.38 | danilo_ | hein, We needs more games for Maemo platform.... I'm trying to port TEG (risk like's), but I'm having problem with libgnome.... |
| 23:35.01 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.24 | pupnik | yzf600: use the howto for 1.06 or 1.07 |
| 23:35.33 | hein | danilo_: The GTK+ stuff (and the input method being tied to it) has so far scared me away from dev'ing for it too |
| 23:35.48 | pupnik | sdl games are easy though |
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| 23:38.16 | danilo_ | Yes. I know that port GTK+ stuffs are not so easy..... But I'm a "porting newbe". So, please, do not scare me! lol |
| 23:38.20 | yzf600 | pupnik: I'm looking at the howto here: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_2.2_Tutorial.html |
| 23:38.27 | yzf600 | pupnik: is that the wrong one? |
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| 23:38.48 | pupnik | that's correct for gregale stuff, but some of the scratchbox things will be outdated |
| 23:39.08 | yzf600 | right, and that's most likely the problem for me |
| 23:39.20 | pupnik | i agree on the games thing danilo_ ... my works in progress are at pupnik.de |
| 23:39.37 | yzf600 | I've tried to go into uncharted territory with sb-menu, but I must be screwing up something |
| 23:39.53 | pupnik | at scratchbox.org you can get a HOWTO for newer scratchbox |
| 23:40.11 | pupnik | i don't remember many details but i used sb-menu also - let me know if you have questions |
| 23:40.48 | danilo_ | pupnik, I saw your web-site yesterday. I was looking for your acmonitor |
| 23:41.04 | pupnik | ah yes. derf's - i just made it work for 770 |
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| 23:44.34 | yzf600 | pupnik: do you happen to know what toolchain is needed for 770 development? cs2005q3.2-glibc-arm or arm-linux2006q3? |
| 23:45.33 | pupnik | i can check what i have |
| 23:46.00 | yzf600 | thanks |
| 23:46.10 | pupnik | cs2005q3.2-glibc-arm is what i have here |
| 23:46.14 | pupnik | might be a newer one tho |
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| 23:46.32 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.40 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:46.51 | yzf600 | so here I think is where I get into trouble - rootstrap install |
| 23:47.26 | pupnik | be sure your downloaded rootstrap is complete (tar tzf) |
| 23:47.36 | yzf600 | I select Maemo_Dev_Platform_v2.2_i386-minimal-rootstrap.tgz |
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| 23:47.54 | pupnik | that's the i386 cersion |
| 23:47.58 | yzf600 | but I also saw Maemo_Dev_Platform_rootstrap_Nokia_Binaries_v2.2.tar.gz online |
| 23:48.53 | pupnik | if you're setting up an armel target, you need the armel binaries for your target environment |
| 23:49.59 | yzf600 | so why would anyone want i386 binaries? I thought the 770 had an arm processor... |
| 23:50.22 | pupnik | you can run maemo apps natively on a PC with i386 stuff |
| 23:50.32 | yzf600 | oh |
| 23:50.32 | pupnik | i never use it though |
| 23:50.34 | yzf600 | ok |
| 23:50.48 | pupnik | sorry i don't know the exact filename you need for the root |
| 23:50.59 | yzf600 | why bother when you have a scratchbox environment? |
| 23:51.18 | yzf600 | no problem, I'll go hunt around on maemo.org |
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| 23:51.36 | pupnik | it should be in the scratchbox howto |
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| 23:53.23 | yzf600 | I see 3 things - nokia_binaries, rootfs_nokia_binaries, rootstrap_nokia_binaries. Do I need all 3? |
| 23:54.37 | pupnik | i downloaded them all but i forgot which the HOWTO tells to install when |
| 23:54.55 | yzf600 | ok |
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| 23:57.47 | yzf600 | well the howto isn't so great |
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| 23:58.26 | yzf600 | and it tells me to install the i386 rootstrap |
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| 23:59.08 | yzf600 | So I just setup and sdk with the Maemo_Dev_Platform_rootstrap_Nokia_Binaries_v2.2.tar.gz |
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| 23:59.59 | yzf600 | those tar.gz archives have a bunch of .deb files in them. How do the underlying deb files get installed? automatically by scratchbox? |