| 00:00.16 | GoatBoy | ok |
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| 00:04.40 | GoatBoy | FYI, I think cables like this: http://www.xpcgear.com/usbtype2atob.html |
| 00:04.55 | GoatBoy | plus one of those battery powered ipod chargers would work |
| 00:05.06 | GoatBoy | the extra connector on those cables are meant for power purposes |
| 00:10.29 | ericz | hey, tomorrows the 4th of july, isn't it? hrm |
| 00:10.31 | ericz | my watch is wrong |
| 00:10.55 | ericz | says the 2nd :/ stupid thing doesn't know 30 days from 31 |
| 00:10.59 | volmarias | yes |
| 00:11.02 | volmarias | tomorrow is the 4th |
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| 00:29.28 | volmarias | Alright, I've got a question. Where are all the libs hidden? I'm trying to install python2.5 runtime, and there are about 10 different libraries that I need to have first |
| 00:29.37 | volmarias | is there a repository in particular I should know about? |
| 00:29.54 | pupnik | yeah i saw all those python optional libs |
| 00:33.13 | volmarias | any suggestions? |
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| 00:34.44 | pupnik | install the core lib and ignore the optional ones |
| 00:34.55 | pupnik | then if your program says it's missing something, install that |
| 00:35.08 | Spec[770] | is it possible to set the wireless card's mac address? |
| 00:35.08 | volmarias | well, I can't find the core lib, which is the issue. |
| 00:35.15 | volmarias | Should I install maemo? |
| 00:35.36 | volmarias | I'm trying to see how much junk I can load myself down with before I start even pretending to hack at this |
| 00:35.57 | pupnik | yeah installing fun stuff is the first thing i did |
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| 01:14.04 | yzf600 | howdy |
| 01:14.50 | yzf600 | I just re-flashed my 770 for the 1st time |
| 01:14.55 | yzf600 | that was a breeze |
| 01:15.12 | yzf600 | somehow the packages got all gorked up and would not install or un-install |
| 01:15.25 | yzf600 | just reflashed and I'm back in business. |
| 01:19.18 | yzf600 | anyone have gaim running successfully |
| 01:20.03 | ericz_ | yeah |
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| 01:20.59 | yzf600 | I installed gaim and then gaim-yahoo-protocol |
| 01:21.41 | yzf600 | I setup my account, but everytime I try to login, it tells me missing protocol plugin |
| 01:22.51 | ericz_ | i've never tried yahoo, but i switched to pidgin actually, :/ |
| 01:24.03 | yzf600 | ericz_: is it better than gaim? |
| 01:25.02 | ericz_ | its the same thing , gaim turned into pidginn because aol sued them, but pidgins newer |
| 01:25.35 | yzf600 | oh, thats right |
| 01:25.40 | yzf600 | I forgot about that |
| 01:35.26 | pupnik_ | install the missing protocol plugin then |
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| 01:55.35 | goat | anyone in here using openvpn on the n800? |
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| 02:05.27 | yzf600 | ok - so I removed gaim and went to install pidgin |
| 02:05.47 | yzf600 | it fails because of missing dep: hildon-libs0 0.12.24-3 |
| 02:06.47 | cnc | im tryin to figure out where to get all these reps too |
| 02:06.59 | cnc | is there like an all inclusive one for the 770 |
| 02:07.18 | cnc | i found some base, but it doesnt have smbfs |
| 02:07.50 | cnc | yzf600: how is that bike? you touring on it? =D |
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| 02:08.39 | Niacin | anyone know where i could get wvdial for 7770? |
| 02:08.42 | Niacin | 770* |
| 02:08.54 | Niacin | i mean is there another apt source? |
| 02:12.55 | yzf600 | cnc: no, too busy at home and work to go for long rides |
| 02:13.05 | yzf600 | cnc: just commuting to work these days |
| 02:13.59 | cnc | ah, same here |
| 02:14.18 | cnc | i have my givis packed though, one of these weeks im going to escape |
| 02:15.33 | yzf600 | damn. I just relized that when I re-flashed, I used firmware 2.2, not the latest 3.2 |
| 02:15.57 | yzf600 | I'll bet this is causing my dep problems |
| 02:16.10 | Niacin | anyone got a 770 cross compiler setup? |
| 02:16.17 | pupnik_ | anybody and his brother can make a repository for the 770/800 |
| 02:16.21 | pupnik_ | i do |
| 02:16.27 | pupnik_ | you need wvdial? |
| 02:16.29 | cnc | how do you check what version firmware you have? |
| 02:16.32 | Niacin | could you compile me wvdial? ya man that would be really nice |
| 02:16.43 | Niacin | i have been working on this problem forever ;\ and turns out wvdial works perfect |
| 02:16.55 | yzf600 | cnc: I'm not sure. |
| 02:16.59 | cnc | 3.2006-49.2, is this 2.0? |
| 02:17.02 | pupnik_ | you have googled for it, i hope Niacin ? |
| 02:17.17 | Niacin | ya but there is no arm port of it |
| 02:17.22 | Niacin | well not port |
| 02:17.25 | Niacin | but arm package |
| 02:17.34 | Niacin | unless there is another apt source that has it? i couldnt find it |
| 02:18.06 | pupnik_ | you might have to download the .deb manually |
| 02:18.32 | pupnik_ | Google: Results 1 - 10 of about 591 for wvdial maemo. |
| 02:19.02 | Niacin | yeah but nothing of use |
| 02:19.42 | pupnik_ | <maddler> I'm using wvdial, and everything works fine |
| 02:19.54 | Niacin | so where did the package come from? |
| 02:19.58 | Niacin | i can't find arm deb anywhere |
| 02:20.12 | pupnik_ | i don't know |
| 02:24.07 | Niacin | how do i install .deb files? just dpkg-deb --install ? |
| 02:25.37 | ericz | dpkg -i *.deb |
| 02:26.17 | Niacin | ya gives me some error about being for arm instead of armtel |
| 02:26.23 | Niacin | or otherway around |
| 02:26.36 | ericz | :/ |
| 02:26.38 | Niacin | armel* |
| 02:29.06 | cnc | anyone know which repository has smbfs? |
| 02:38.55 | yzf600 | craptacular |
| 02:39.03 | yzf600 | I can't flash my 770 anymore |
| 02:39.16 | yzf600 | I keep getting USB device found found at bus 002, device address 112 |
| 02:39.16 | yzf600 | Error claiming USB interface: Operation not permitted |
| 02:39.53 | yzf600 | oh |
| 02:40.04 | yzf600 | dumbass - I forgot the sudo part |
| 02:40.06 | yzf600 | sheesh |
| 02:41.09 | yzf600 | maybe it's time to put the 770 down and take a break ;) |
| 02:41.36 | cnc | i just got mine a few hours ago |
| 02:41.46 | cnc | im only on my first excedrin |
| 02:42.43 | yzf600 | cnc: from woot? |
| 02:42.51 | cnc | missed the woot |
| 02:42.54 | cnc | got from buy.com |
| 02:42.57 | yzf600 | oh |
| 02:43.30 | yzf600 | $139 - not bad |
| 02:43.48 | cnc | ya, i used up my 10$ google discounts |
| 02:43.56 | cnc | else it would be cheaper |
| 02:44.15 | yzf600 | this thing is a real deal at $139, if you ask me |
| 02:44.56 | cnc | ya |
| 02:45.05 | cnc | pain in the ass if you dont know anything about linux |
| 02:45.18 | cnc | but slowly, i will figure out what a repository is |
| 02:45.44 | yzf600 | I can see that |
| 02:45.56 | yzf600 | I've been a linux user for 8 years now |
| 02:46.07 | yzf600 | red-hat, mandrake, and now ubuntu |
| 02:46.20 | yzf600 | it's this last one that really helped me on the 770 |
| 02:46.47 | goat | b/c maemo is debian based like ubuntu |
| 02:47.14 | yzf600 | a repository is basically an ftp site where code can be automatically downloaded by your 770 |
| 02:47.39 | goat | funny yzf600, that's about the exact history I have with linux |
| 02:47.45 | yzf600 | it is in special format with special files that tell debian what is there and how to download it |
| 02:47.46 | goat | redhat, mandrake, ubuntu |
| 02:47.52 | goat | cept I had debian in there before ubuntu |
| 02:48.29 | yzf600 | I started with red-hat, but everything was command line. My wife's brother said I should look at mandrake for easier config with GUI apps |
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| 02:49.05 | yzf600 | then I learned about ubuntu about a year ago and dumped mandrake. Mandrake really never was able to upgrade without hosing my system |
| 02:49.21 | goat | I hadn't used mandrake in years, had gone over to debian |
| 02:49.24 | yzf600 | I'm now 2 upgrades into ubuntu without any major issues |
| 02:49.32 | goat | apt is god |
| 02:49.47 | yzf600 | yes |
| 02:49.57 | yzf600 | rpms suck |
| 02:50.07 | goat | now if I could just get openvpn going I'd be happy |
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| 02:50.30 | yzf600 | I just want freeNX running |
| 02:50.53 | cnc | deb http://maemo-hackers.org/apt/ mistral main |
| 02:51.08 | goat | that is a complete repository |
| 02:51.10 | cnc | main means i replace user with main in the components section? |
| 02:51.13 | outtolunc | i just want minimo on mistral to invoke the keyboard when presented with an auth box <G> |
| 02:51.14 | goat | an entry for one that is |
| 02:51.30 | cnc | of the new catalogue creation window |
| 02:51.34 | goat | yes cnc |
| 02:51.40 | goat | without looking |
| 02:51.46 | goat | I'm 99% sure |
| 02:52.41 | yzf600 | I'm thinking my 770 will be a great little gadget to integrate to my home security system |
| 02:52.55 | goat | not sure what freenx is |
| 02:53.15 | yzf600 | freenx is a free version of NXserver, which is a vncserver replacement |
| 02:53.23 | goat | oh |
| 02:53.43 | goat | I suppose the easy to find vnc stuff is actual vnc? |
| 02:54.03 | yzf600 | yea |
| 02:54.11 | yzf600 | vnc is nice, but NX is faster |
| 02:54.39 | yzf600 | and firefox and evolution won't run on an 800x480 vnc session on my 770 |
| 02:55.00 | cnc | argh |
| 02:55.04 | cnc | my wifi is blind again |
| 02:55.10 | goat | ? |
| 02:55.11 | cnc | 3rd time today |
| 02:55.28 | cnc | wifi wont find any aps |
| 02:55.32 | cnc | until you restart i |
| 02:55.35 | cnc | it* |
| 02:56.32 | cnc | is there a fix for this? |
| 02:57.09 | goat | no idea, never had that issue... mine seems to have better wifi than most laptops |
| 02:57.20 | cnc | ya, wifi works great |
| 02:57.29 | cnc | but once in a while it just shuts off and wont find any ap`s |
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| 02:57.40 | cnc | searches but no connecitons found |
| 02:57.53 | goat | weird |
| 02:57.53 | cnc | ill reboot it and it will find 10 and work fine again |
| 02:57.56 | goat | that sucks |
| 02:58.23 | cnc | i just got this thing a few hours ago |
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| 02:59.55 | yzf600 | yea - pidgin installed ! |
| 03:00.05 | goat | pidgin works well for me |
| 03:00.14 | cnc | does nokia have a support number for these? |
| 03:00.19 | goat | probablyh |
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| 03:04.37 | [yzf600] | Hello from my 770! |
| 03:04.54 | cnc | =D |
| 03:04.59 | yzf600 | I'm such a geek |
| 03:05.27 | cnc | still cant install prog, how do i check if i put in the repo correctly? |
| 03:05.48 | yzf600 | the refresh won't work if you entered the repo wrong |
| 03:05.49 | goat | edit the repo and check for typos, that's about it |
| 03:06.03 | yzf600 | refresh/update |
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| 03:06.53 | [yzf600] | Ok, time to signoff |
| 03:07.02 | ericz | is it possible to use a proxy in opera? |
| 03:07.15 | [yzf600] | bedtime for this nerd |
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| 03:07.25 | cnc | 'unable to refresh list' ? |
| 03:07.51 | goat | errors in a repo somewhere |
| 03:08.10 | goat | try replacing that "main" you were asking about with just "/" |
| 03:08.15 | goat | or nothing at all |
| 03:09.25 | cnc | still wont refresh |
| 03:09.28 | cnc | should i try user? |
| 03:09.45 | goat | can't hurt |
| 03:10.01 | goat | check the age of the info you're setting up a repo from |
| 03:10.10 | goat | repo might have moved or somesuch |
| 03:10.51 | Niacin | whats the bora repo for wget? |
| 03:11.13 | goat | no idea |
| 03:11.40 | cnc | no date on it, but the link seems to work |
| 03:11.44 | cnc | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/shownotes.php?release_id=132 |
| 03:12.41 | goat | actually, we may have completely missed something |
| 03:12.46 | goat | the new repo window |
| 03:12.55 | goat | won't require the "deb" before the address |
| 03:13.08 | goat | sorry bout that |
| 03:14.58 | cnc | removed the two repos i typed in |
| 03:15.04 | cnc | will see if it works without them |
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| 03:19.38 | cnc | ah, got it working |
| 03:19.43 | cnc | it was the other random repo i put in |
| 03:19.51 | cnc | must have been a dupe |
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| 03:24.44 | ericz | is it really necessary for me to need to sudo to run ping or traceroute :P |
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| 03:27.01 | Niacin | not having much luck getting wvdial to install |
| 03:27.11 | Niacin | no one has a build env setup that they could just cross compile it for me? |
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| 03:32.13 | CtrlR | Does anyone know if it is possible to use Treo 700WX cell connection via BT? |
| 03:32.31 | CtrlR | On 770 |
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| 03:49.02 | cnc | there a good wifi app out? |
| 03:49.27 | cnc | something that shows signal strength in dbm and refreshes quick |
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| 03:57.33 | Drizzt321 | I'm trying to get the | (pipe) character on the onscreen keyboard on the 770 (latest OS 2006) |
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| 03:57.42 | Drizzt321 | I can't seem to find it |
| 03:57.45 | Drizzt321 | can anyone help? |
| 03:57.47 | ericz | yeah |
| 03:57.56 | ericz | you can get to symbols, right? |
| 03:58.07 | Drizzt321 | oh, there it is |
| 03:58.08 | Drizzt321 | sorry |
| 03:58.09 | Drizzt321 | yea |
| 03:58.11 | ericz | there's tabs, Common, Symbols, Accents.. etc |
| 03:58.13 | Drizzt321 | I wasn't looking close enough |
| 03:58.13 | Drizzt321 | heh |
| 03:58.23 | ericz | yeah, common tab :) middle/bottom |
| 03:58.29 | ericz | err, symbols tab |
| 03:58.33 | Drizzt321 | yea |
| 03:58.50 | ericz | it is in an awkward place :/ |
| 03:59.06 | Drizzt321 | ohhh, they put Documents as a dot folder |
| 03:59.07 | Drizzt321 | heh |
| 03:59.09 | Drizzt321 | how annoying |
| 04:00.26 | ericz | . documents/images/sounds/videos? |
| 04:00.31 | ericz | they're all hidden :/ |
| 04:00.50 | Drizzt321 | yea |
| 04:01.12 | Drizzt321 | hrm...I'm trying to install the gpe widgets lib via dpkg, and turns out they're compiled arm, not armel which is what dpkg wants |
| 04:01.33 | Drizzt321 | know of another source other than kernelconcepts.de or compiling them myself? |
| 04:01.57 | ericz | no clue, i'm too new to this :( |
| 04:02.01 | Drizzt321 | ah |
| 04:02.03 | Drizzt321 | heh |
| 04:02.12 | Drizzt321 | know if its safe to force install arm packages? |
| 04:02.26 | ericz | i, personally, wouldn't try it, but that's me and my newness talking |
| 04:02.59 | Drizzt321 | erm |
| 04:03.00 | Drizzt321 | yea |
| 04:03.48 | Drizzt321 | well, I'll force it, and worst case just purge the package |
| 04:03.52 | ericz | try searching for "gpe" at at http://maemo.org/downloads/ ? |
| 04:06.08 | Drizzt321 | no libs there anyway |
| 04:06.09 | Drizzt321 | grrrr |
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| 04:09.18 | Drizzt321 | and whats really annoying is that there _is_ a gpe program _in_ the maemo repository that depends on libgpewidget1, BUT it doesn't exist in the maemo repository!!!!! |
| 04:10.40 | ericz | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howtosyncgpe770withlinux/ |
| 04:11.17 | ericz | something about libgpewidget there |
| 04:13.22 | Drizzt321 | its making sym links, but the problem is that it assumes the gpe libs are _already_ installed |
| 04:14.40 | ericz | http://oss.kernelconcepts.de/maemo/libraries.shtml - that must be the one you got? |
| 04:14.50 | ericz | the ARM, not armel one? |
| 04:15.24 | Drizzt321 | yea, they don't have any armel packages :( |
| 04:15.56 | Drizzt321 | *sigh* |
| 04:16.02 | Drizzt321 | I'll just try working with it tomorrow or something |
| 04:16.05 | Drizzt321 | I need to get some sleep |
| 04:16.07 | Drizzt321 | thanks for your help |
| 04:16.08 | Drizzt321 | night |
| 04:16.11 | ericz | later. |
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| 04:17.46 | bberdahl | apologies if this is OT... has anyone tried Gizmo on the n770 w/ success.... I can't make it use the secondary (generic SIP) configuration... |
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| 05:28.04 | coderanger | Is there a way to raise the connection timeout in vncviewer? I am doing VNC-over-SSH, and the connection works via netcat, but I think vncviewer times out too quickly. |
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| 05:47.24 | KaylaKaze | yay! comic book viewer coming along nicely. |
| 05:47.58 | KaylaKaze | I just need to find a way to zoom in and a way to handle double size pages |
| 06:01.00 | AD-N770 | good morning |
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| 06:20.35 | ericz | what's difference between "Internet connection failed" and "network connection error" |
| 06:22.49 | ericz | cannot connect at all :( |
| 06:23.00 | ericz | worked fine 20 minutes ago |
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| 06:27.21 | ericz | ugh, now its working, 3 reboots later |
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| 06:32.58 | kulve | what's the wlan signal strenght? |
| 06:35.37 | coderanger | Is there a default password for user, or should I set one? |
| 06:36.23 | KaylaKaze | I don't think there is one |
| 06:40.14 | kulve | coderanger: there's not passwd for user as it is not normally needed.. |
| 06:40.16 | kulve | -t |
| 06:58.20 | keesj | Hi |
| 07:03.21 | KaylaKaze | only a little more work and I'll be able to easily read comic books and some pdfs on my 770 :-) |
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| 07:08.53 | keesj | KaylaKaze: are you scanning? |
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| 07:14.00 | Synt1 | hi there |
| 07:16.55 | Synt1 | does anyone know an alternative for amixer on the n800 (i can't find amixer) |
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| 07:47.40 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 07:58.37 | florian | good morning |
| 07:59.08 | gwak | http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.engadget.com/media/2007/07/prism_1.jpg |
| 07:59.21 | gwak | wtf was Nokia thinking |
| 08:00.50 | osfameron | out of the box? |
| 08:00.58 | JussiP | That there are lots of rich idiots in the world? |
| 08:01.11 | dpb_ | lol |
| 08:01.33 | fatal- | hmm. apparently skype is still unreleased? |
| 08:06.24 | febb | hi all |
| 08:06.35 | febb | seems the talk is about skype....right? |
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| 08:13.32 | febb | anyone knows something about the new firmware release for the N800 ? |
| 08:14.06 | gwak | febb:i think the best advice is "a watched pot does not boil" ;-] |
| 08:15.08 | febb | gwak guess you are right ;-) but didn't hurt to ask anyway..... |
| 08:15.10 | florian | Thats the effect tat as soon as someone talks about it, it takes one more month ;) |
| 08:15.26 | gwak | and a baby kitten dies |
| 08:15.36 | febb | damn...then there goes another month more. |
| 08:15.47 | febb | and one less kitty cat.... |
| 08:16.13 | jani | morning. |
| 08:16.33 | febb | and....what if I add another month: skype for n800? any news? or....super secret copy of the code ? |
| 08:17.36 | gwak | febb:i thought the jkontherun blog said some time in july |
| 08:18.18 | febb | oh well...then 27 days more to go.... |
| 08:19.17 | gwak | im looking forward to skype, Gizmo is way to laggy for pc->phone calls |
| 08:20.08 | febb | one last comment question: does any of you has managed to make the virtual keyboard to work with applications opened on the n800 from a remote X application (with ssh+X forwarding) ? |
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| 08:20.39 | febb | well...Gizmo works quite well for me.. I want it cuz many of my contacts are on skype....and not many of them willing to move to gizmo just for me. |
| 08:20.59 | febb | it becomes a pain to open so many VoIP programs and many IM accounts...... |
| 08:21.22 | febb | Hi felipec ..... welcome. |
| 08:21.52 | jani | febb: whats the problem with vkb? cant invoke it or its just not working at all ? |
| 08:22.22 | febb | and guess what: Mr Murphy says: whenever skype comes out..then 2 days later a new firmware and skype wont run on it..... thats for sure. ;) |
| 08:22.52 | felipec | febb: hi... fellow Mexican? |
| 08:23.10 | febb | jani: I can open a ssh session to a remote unix server, all variables are st OK and the X application do open perfectly on the N800 screen but |
| 08:23.24 | febb | all keyboard taps on the N800 screen never reach the X application. |
| 08:23.45 | febb | felipec yup...Mexican here, so are you ? |
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| 08:23.57 | jani | mm dunno about that then. |
| 08:24.30 | gwak | febb:for a remoted xterm as well? |
| 08:24.30 | febb | I have read somewhere that using a bluetooth keyboard works fine in that setting but i dont have one...(and done want one). |
| 08:24.54 | febb | gwak, yes,the same thing happens for a remoted xterm.... |
| 08:25.05 | felipec | febb: yes |
| 08:25.06 | febb | no keystrokes -taps- are sent to the X app. |
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| 08:25.38 | gwak | febb: i think i read that the input methods do not generate normal xevents |
| 08:26.16 | febb | gwak yes, I read kind of the same thing also... the question is: what is different from a normal X server / client .... |
| 08:28.04 | febb | I need my N800 to be able to send those keyboard events to the remote X app. (once the app opened on the n800 screen, of course, which I already do). |
| 08:28.36 | gwak | febb:i have not hacked at the low level bits yet ;-] , did you check the maemo.org docs about the input methods? |
| 08:30.02 | febb | gwak not really... haven't had the chance/time to do so... But I am pretty sure it can be "fixed" or set to operate as a normal X server / client session.... |
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| 08:32.20 | lardman | morning |
| 08:32.29 | febb | morning lardman |
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| 08:34.32 | gwak | febb: it apears that you would need a 'conversion' layer to convert meamo keyboard events to xevents |
| 08:34.40 | gwak | https://garage.maemo.org/snippet/detail.php?type=snippet&id=5 |
| 08:35.22 | febb | let me check on that..... |
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| 08:37.02 | febb | seems that is exactly what I am looking for.....Thanks so much gwak... |
| 08:37.10 | sbaturzio | Aloha! |
| 08:37.18 | gwak | febb:np, i learned something as well ;-] |
| 08:38.48 | febb | great... I will read that doc and see what can be done........ For now, i guess its time to logoff its 03:40 am here ! |
| 08:40.11 | febb | well, gwak, thaks again I'll be back in some hours....I'll keep you posted as well.... |
| 08:40.15 | febb | later all ! |
| 08:40.22 | gwak | febb:later |
| 08:41.16 | febb | g'nite.... or g'day to all ! :) |
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| 08:57.17 | dubdibdub | hi |
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| 08:59.41 | dubdibdub | where do i have to put / link a script when it should be executed each time i put a mmc into my n800 ???? |
| 09:00.00 | edistar | good morning.. |
| 09:00.07 | dubdibdub | morning |
| 09:00.13 | dubdibdub | it's 11:00AM here ; |
| 09:00.27 | edistar | dubdibdub: where are you? ;) |
| 09:00.36 | dubdibdub | europe/austria |
| 09:01.13 | edistar | dubdibdub: it's 11 here too, but I feel like morning :P |
| 09:01.26 | dubdibdub | aahhh.... |
| 09:01.40 | dubdibdub | that's something completely different ;) |
| 09:01.42 | edistar | I'm in germany.. |
| 09:01.53 | Toni | 17:00 here |
| 09:01.59 | edistar | :P |
| 09:02.07 | Toni | in Taipei currently :) |
| 09:02.24 | melmoth | dubdibdub, i m not sure but it sound like the trick would be to have a daemon waiting for a dbus event occuring when the card is inserted |
| 09:02.25 | Toni | and yes, it feels like lunch time to me again |
| 09:02.25 | dubdibdub | edistar: nördlich oder südlich dem weisswurstäquator?? |
| 09:02.45 | osfameron | heh :-) |
| 09:02.54 | dubdibdub | melmoth: :( |
| 09:03.01 | edistar | dubdibdub: eher nördlich :) niederrhein... fast bei Holland |
| 09:03.17 | dubdibdub | edistar: lol |
| 09:03.25 | melmoth | dubdibdub, it s not that a bad news. |
| 09:03.35 | dubdibdub | melmoth: isn't there something like /system/osso/af/on-camera-out |
| 09:03.44 | melmoth | not that i m aware of |
| 09:03.52 | dubdibdub | i just want to start a script - not write my own daemon waiting for messages from hell ;) |
| 09:03.58 | edistar | dubdibdub: hehe, that would make life too simple :P |
| 09:04.32 | dubdibdub | so where can i find a small(!) dbus tutorial?? ---askin' google... |
| 09:05.27 | dubdibdub | have anyone of you ever made a 'n800-lite' (x-server only without matchbox, etc...) |
| 09:05.54 | melmoth | dubdibdub, actually in maemo, you may want to use libosso instead of dbus |
| 09:06.07 | melmoth | as far as i have understood, libosso is a sort of layer on top of dbus |
| 09:06.35 | dubdibdub | i wan't to get the n800 as light as possible (best without *osso*) |
| 09:06.38 | dubdibdub | ;) |
| 09:06.49 | melmoth | libosso is mandatory |
| 09:06.54 | melmoth | the whole gui works with it |
| 09:06.57 | Toni | run fdisk on it :) |
| 09:07.21 | dubdibdub | Toni: good idea ;) |
| 09:07.32 | Toni | it makes it quite light, but usability suffers a little |
| 09:07.46 | edistar | a little lol |
| 09:07.55 | melmoth | http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/documentation/python_osso_examples/ |
| 09:08.03 | Toni | do you want to strip the UI or also the OS? |
| 09:09.15 | dubdibdub | but i need X (my (sdl)app should run alone, doesn't need fancy ui), ALSA (my app plays some sound via aplay) |
| 09:11.11 | dubdibdub | but when i killall matchbox-window-manager it comes back again (?restarts automatically) |
| 09:11.17 | melmoth | all i say is the more likely way to be alerted of a change in the device available is via libosso (or dbus if there is no such libosso signal) |
| 09:13.52 | dubdibdub | what would happen if i apt-get remove matchbox-window-manager?? |
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| 09:15.36 | edistar | dubdibdub: just try.. I suppose it would say that you can't do that because of dependencies.. |
| 09:15.50 | melmoth | GRumble; i m not even sure there is such an event as "mmc card inserted" in osso http://maemo.org/api_refs/3.0/libosso/structosso__hw__state__t.html#o4 |
| 09:16.32 | dubdibdub | i'll give the matchbox-buttkick a try... |
| 09:17.37 | dubdibdub | http://pastebin.ca/602765 |
| 09:21.51 | dubdibdub | oops |
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| 09:22.18 | dubdibdub | after removing: rebooting: progressbar get's stuck at about two thirds |
| 09:22.27 | dubdibdub | log on http://pastebin.ca/602771 |
| 09:28.08 | dubdibdub | strange...: it differs where exactly the progressbar gets stuck |
| 09:30.13 | dubdibdub | sorry |
| 09:30.17 | dubdibdub | i have to excure |
| 09:30.20 | dubdibdub | i have to excuse |
| 09:30.27 | dubdibdub | i am still able to ssh onto the device |
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| 09:31.33 | dubdibdub | is is easy to get out where mmc cards are..: |
| 09:31.42 | dubdibdub | # mount|grep mmc|cut -d' ' -f3 |
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| 09:46.25 | guardian | i have a question about GObject properties |
| 09:46.29 | guardian | am i responsible for the storage |
| 09:46.37 | guardian | or GObject does it for me ? |
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| 09:49.38 | eugene | hello all! |
| 09:49.50 | inz | guardian, you must implement the set_propery and get_property and store the values |
| 09:50.04 | guardian | ok i understand |
| 09:51.39 | melmoth | hola eugene |
| 09:52.23 | eugene | melmoth: you are up early |
| 09:52.53 | melmoth | it s nearly noon here :) |
| 09:53.00 | eugene | melmoth: :) |
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| 09:54.03 | jani | melmoth: i think gnome-vfs has event for that.. |
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| 10:03.46 | guardian | i fail to see an advantage using properties |
| 10:03.53 | guardian | compared to my own get/set functions |
| 10:04.11 | inz | guardian, language bindings |
| 10:04.24 | guardian | like with python ? |
| 10:04.34 | inz | yeah |
| 10:05.04 | inz | when using properties, I think some generators can do the work for you |
| 10:05.57 | inz | And also you can set many things with one call etc |
| 10:06.54 | inz | For example g_object_new(MY_TYPE_FOO, "foo", 1, "bar", 2, NULL); |
| 10:09.01 | guardian | if i want both |
| 10:09.08 | inz | And of course you can abuse the property system to write saveable objects |
| 10:09.17 | guardian | do i need somehow to notify the property has changed |
| 10:09.21 | guardian | in my set function |
| 10:10.55 | inz | guardian, yeah, you should call g_object_notify(your_gobject, "property_name"); |
| 10:11.18 | inz | And obviously you can make the set_property and get_property call the setter/getter respectively |
| 10:11.41 | inz | And it is often smart, as you might want to do something special when the property is changes |
| 10:11.47 | inz | -s+d |
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| 11:46.55 | robtaylor | aCiDBaSe: are you still working on pymaemo? |
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| 11:49.00 | guardian | geez, reading the doc helps :) |
| 11:49.04 | guardian | Calling gdk_draw_rectangle (window, gc, FALSE, 0, 0, 20, 20) results in an outlined rectangle with corners at (0, 0), (0, 20), (20, 20), and (20, 0), which makes it 21 pixels wide and 21 pixels high. |
| 11:49.08 | guardian | 21 pixels *sight* |
| 11:55.21 | Enok | I get "error: memory exhausted -- trying to return to prompt" in octave when trying to read data file to a matrix on N800 |
| 11:55.33 | Enok | The file isn't big, just couple of lines |
| 11:55.52 | Enok | On pc it works fine |
| 11:56.13 | Enok | Any good guesses how to solve this? |
| 11:57.20 | Enok | I use the fscanf function to read the file |
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| 12:33.43 | inz | guardian, I bet there was some important reason for doing that... |
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| 12:34.23 | guardian | %s/important/legacy/ :) |
| 12:34.50 | inz | guardian, imo it makes no sense, either it should take the size of the contained rect or the bounding rect, not some weird combination |
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| 12:36.15 | inz | guardian, or the width and height should be x2 and y2 and it should act the same independent of the filled argument |
| 12:36.40 | inz | Hysterical raisins bite. You die. |
| 12:36.46 | guardian | :) |
| 12:37.09 | inz | Die [yn] |
| 12:38.10 | gwak | y |
| 12:39.04 | suihkulokki | You die -more- |
| 12:39.13 | inz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:50.34 | eugene | Inconsistency detected by ld.so: rtld.c: 1192: dl_main: Assertion `(void *) ph->p_vaddr == _rtld_local._dl_sysinfo_dso' failed! |
| 12:50.37 | eugene | sigh. |
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| 13:52.00 | eichi | hello, is maemo with multi-user support? or is it possible? |
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| 14:07.18 | eugene | melmoth: ping |
| 14:07.25 | melmoth | pong |
| 14:07.29 | eugene | melmoth: see: |
| 14:07.30 | eugene | [ 1284.911987] do_execve for /bin/ash from sh |
| 14:07.30 | eugene | [ 1286.591308] do_execve for /sbin/getty from init |
| 14:07.30 | eugene | [ 1286.863861] do_execve for /bin/dmesg from ash |
| 14:07.32 | eugene | hehe :) |
| 14:08.22 | melmoth | hmm |
| 14:08.35 | melmoth | is this your systemtapthingy working ? |
| 14:08.39 | eugene | not yet. |
| 14:08.57 | melmoth | hey...don't forget to put all of this on garage ! |
| 14:09.03 | edistar | what is the difference between flasher 2.0 and flasher 3.0? |
| 14:09.17 | eugene | basically i'm utilising jprobe_return to get hold of the .return of do_execve |
| 14:09.19 | eugene | melmoth: nod nod :) |
| 14:09.56 | eugene | somehow init loves to spawn getty often. |
| 14:10.04 | eugene | i wonder why. |
| 14:11.57 | edistar | and what is the OS 2007 hacker edition for 770? |
| 14:12.39 | melmoth | edistar, it is an effort to backport feature that are officially supported in the n800 os to the n700 tablet |
| 14:12.42 | melmoth | or so i understand |
| 14:13.25 | edistar | melmoth: is it unstable? |
| 14:13.26 | edistar | :P |
| 14:14.06 | melmoth | i do not know, i only have a n800 :) |
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| 14:14.29 | edistar | which flasher should I use now, 2.0 or 3.0? for the 770? |
| 14:14.36 | melmoth | but i have been told it s rather stable..But you may not find all the video codec in it. |
| 14:14.54 | edistar | okey.. |
| 14:16.36 | Niacin | anyone know why cu buffers only 1 char at a time? |
| 14:21.06 | edistar | can anyone tell me how to flash my 770 so that it can use nfs shares? |
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| 14:21.29 | eugene | edistar: http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_kernel_guide_bora.html |
| 14:21.48 | eugene | "Compiling kernel modules" section |
| 14:22.16 | edistar | eugene: there is already a kernel but I don't know how to use it.. or how to select that kernel for flashin |
| 14:22.19 | edistar | g |
| 14:22.39 | edistar | eugene: http://maemo.org/downloads/product/os2006-ipv6-nfs |
| 14:22.59 | eugene | edistar: that i'm not so sure. |
| 14:23.29 | edistar | okey... cause I don't know how to compile a module that fits my current kernel |
| 14:23.37 | edistar | I would have to replace the kernel too anyway.. |
| 14:26.31 | edistar | can't I just get the module somewhere? |
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| 15:18.13 | Niacin | whats the package url for 2006? for xterm etc? |
| 15:20.24 | Niacin | ?? |
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| 15:28.40 | Niacin | no one?????;\ |
| 15:28.46 | Niacin | http://repository.maemo.org doesnt have ssh |
| 15:28.51 | Niacin | http://maemo-hackers.org/apt seems to be down |
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| 15:31.37 | Niacin | ?? |
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| 15:35.35 | Niacin | is there a mirror for maemo-hackers.org? |
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| 15:36.57 | caaarlo | hi everybody |
| 15:37.36 | caaarlo | can anybody recommend a plugin for a ThinkOutside BT keyboard for a 770? I downloaded one, but all it seems to do is crash the tablet |
| 15:43.42 | Niacin | the one time i need it |
| 15:43.45 | Niacin | http://maemo-hackers.org/apt is toast |
| 15:49.20 | guardian | i need to define variables for data subdirectories /usr/share/mypackage/subdir1 /usr/share/mypackage/subdir2 etc |
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| 15:49.58 | guardian | would you define subdir1 subdir2 variables in configure.ac |
| 15:50.07 | guardian | like subdir1=$datadir/somewhere |
| 15:50.16 | guardian | then use AC_SUBST(subdir1) |
| 15:50.29 | guardian | or would you define subdir1 directly in Makefile.am ? |
| 15:50.40 | guardian | doing sub1dir=$(datadir)/somewhere |
| 15:51.56 | dev | and you are doing now a new/proper python2.5 build? just that I know on what I should do next |
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| 16:51.06 | guardian | hmm |
| 16:51.10 | guardian | is there a way i can hack |
| 16:51.12 | guardian | so that |
| 16:51.21 | guardian | make install installs stuff to the device through ssh ? :/ |
| 16:51.35 | guardian | "ssh" in the sentence makes it sound impossible |
| 16:54.00 | gwak | guardian:you could script scp i imagine |
| 16:54.27 | guardian | well yeah but wasting time scripting ... i better use this time building a proper installation package |
| 16:54.36 | gwak | ;-] |
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| 17:13.51 | inz | guardian, sshfs (FUSE) should allow such |
| 17:15.28 | guardian | is this easy to use ? |
| 17:16.06 | inz | guardian, never used, but the product page ( http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html ) says sshfs [user@]hostname:[dir] mountpoint |
| 17:17.58 | guardian | hmm |
| 17:18.03 | guardian | requires to be part of the group fuse |
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| 17:18.14 | guardian | is there a way to reload groups without signing off ? |
| 17:19.57 | inz | guardian, su <user> |
| 17:20.21 | inz | guardian, obviously that only adds you to the group for that shell |
| 17:22.36 | guardian | ok |
| 17:22.44 | guardian | gonna definitely try it, thx for the tip |
| 17:22.54 | guardian | btw i have another question |
| 17:22.58 | guardian | you mentioned python bindings |
| 17:23.18 | guardian | my widget currently has a set_foo function that takes a Foo structure as a parameter |
| 17:23.36 | guardian | what do i need to do when i want to use my widget from python (if it happens some day) |
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| 17:44.34 | KaylaKaze | problem with comic books is you have to wait for the next issdue to continue the story. grrr |
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| 18:10.37 | Tu13es | anyone use xchat aqua on an n800? |
| 18:10.42 | Tu13es | trying to figure out how to get rid of the user list |
| 18:12.16 | Tu13es | er |
| 18:12.19 | Tu13es | not xchat aqua |
| 18:12.22 | Tu13es | maemo xchat |
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| 18:40.40 | unique311 | ubuntu feisty |
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| 18:42.48 | phr | hi, i just got a 770 from woot, does anyone know if i can put a 2gb rs-mmc card in it and have it work? |
| 18:43.18 | Tu13es | yes |
| 18:44.12 | phr | great, thanks |
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| 19:19.14 | febb | hi all |
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| 19:29.05 | cesman | hello febb |
| 19:29.33 | felipec | wb febb |
| 19:30.24 | febb | hi ceswan ! |
| 19:30.30 | febb | Hola felipec ! |
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| 19:31.05 | cesman | febb: tab completion is your friend ;) |
| 19:33.52 | febb | cesman: beg you pardon ? ;) |
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| 19:53.47 | guardian | hmm |
| 19:53.57 | guardian | needed to reinstall scratchbox and sdk on another box |
| 19:54.32 | guardian | is this normal that i have to launch sudo ./maemo-scratchbox-install_3.1.sh -d ? |
| 19:54.43 | guardian | the INSTALL.txt files does not tell about "-d" |
| 19:54.52 | guardian | if i don't put the option, i just have the help text |
| 19:54.56 | guardian | on a fresh feisty |
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| 20:33.14 | c0ffee | did somebody see die hard 4? |
| 20:33.26 | c0ffee | the bad ones use some n770 :) |
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| 20:35.52 | keesj | nice |
| 20:36.14 | keesj | what do they use if for? |
| 20:36.24 | c0ffee | dunno |
| 20:36.34 | keesj | I hope not calling :p |
| 20:36.36 | c0ffee | the bad one has a whole bunch of equipment |
| 20:36.42 | c0ffee | nah |
| 20:36.53 | c0ffee | i recognized it, when i hacked into some jet fighter |
| 20:37.01 | c0ffee | the movie isn't overly realistic, but hey :) |
| 20:37.16 | keesj | I a was at the dump store on monday , I now have a very cool case like in the films |
| 20:39.43 | c0ffee | oh ehrm |
| 20:39.59 | c0ffee | not when "i" hacked into some jet fighter, but the bad guy :) |
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| 21:27.06 | dick-richardson | is there an apt-get autoremove option? |
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| 21:31.56 | dick-richardson | more accurately, is there a way to add it? |
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| 21:43.25 | Dr_Nunim | Anyone else having issues with the maemo repo? |
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| 22:39.46 | KaylaKaze | comic viewer all done! yay! |
| 22:40.03 | KaylaKaze | it sucks with pdfs though 'cause it has to use ghost script externally |
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| 22:45.22 | Dr_Nunim | Good, now fix the missing files in repo issue. |
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| 23:04.57 | ttuttle | Hey. |
| 23:05.24 | ttuttle | ericz: Enjoying your 770? |
| 23:05.45 | Niacin | anyone know how to tie a IAP to a script? |
| 23:05.51 | Niacin | the stuff on maemo dont work ;\ |
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| 23:10.59 | ttuttle | Hey, does anyone here know much about Hacker 2007? Can I safely run "apt-get upgrade" on it and install all updates, or will that mess it up by pulling in packages from real 2007 that are incompatible with the 770? |
| 23:12.38 | milhouse | I would put money on it messing up |
| 23:12.41 | ttuttle | milhouse: Oh. |
| 23:13.17 | rhys | so. i love the n800. i was running 7-8 apps at once, and it was doing wonderfully |
| 23:13.17 | ||cw | I would say there's a change, but I wouldn't put money on it. I think the main difference is in the kernel |
| 23:13.40 | rhys | question though. should i move it to booting off the internal card? |
| 23:13.41 | ||cw | rhys: yeah, it's amazing what 128M ram will do |
| 23:13.49 | milhouse | i wouldn't actually expect apt-get to complete without some sort of error, most likely dependency related |
| 23:13.55 | ||cw | always puzzled my why the 770 only has 64 |
| 23:14.12 | rhys | make it an uncompressed filesystem..is there a boot time increase? how big should the internal card be? i have a 512 and 2gb |
| 23:14.46 | rhys | ||cw, what do you mean? |
| 23:14.46 | milhouse | ||cw: 256Mb in the N800 :) |
| 23:14.47 | rhys | oh |
| 23:14.54 | rhys | nvm. your comment was to my first. |
| 23:15.10 | ||cw | milhouse: of ram? hm, missed that |
| 23:15.28 | milhouse | ||cw: yes 256Mb RAM, 128Mb flash in N800, half of each in the 770 |
| 23:15.54 | ttuttle | milhouse: Wait, the 770 has 128 MB RAM and 64 MB flash? I thought it was the other way around. |
| 23:16.15 | ||cw | milhouse: other way, |
| 23:16.16 | ||cw | Memory and Storage |
| 23:16.16 | ||cw | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.16 | ||cw | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:16.20 | rhys | milhouse, other way around |
| 23:16.23 | milhouse | you sure? |
| 23:16.28 | milhouse | shiit... |
| 23:16.35 | ttuttle | milhouse: free on my N770 says 62224 kB. |
| 23:16.42 | ttuttle | milhouse: (total) |
| 23:17.01 | milhouse | damn you're right - 128Mb RAM in my n800. sorry chaps |
| 23:17.09 | ttuttle | lol |
| 23:17.20 | rhys | :D |
| 23:17.21 | milhouse | so what he said :) |
| 23:17.39 | rhys | anyone boot off the internal card? |
| 23:17.50 | milhouse | only when trying sardine |
| 23:18.04 | ttuttle | milhouse: Sardine's for the N770, right? How well does it work? What's it do? |
| 23:18.06 | milhouse | (which seems pretty broken right now - failed to upgrade today) |
| 23:18.37 | milhouse | it used to be for the 770, but probably just the n800 now (OS 2007) |
| 23:18.44 | ttuttle | milhouse: Really? |
| 23:18.47 | rhys | milhouse, is there any speed increase to having the whole os on the internal card? |
| 23:19.06 | ttuttle | milhouse: http://sardine.garage.maemo.org/about.html <-- is this out of date? |
| 23:19.13 | milhouse | ttuttle: not really... i was sure the N800 had 256MB RAM until recently! ;) |
| 23:19.34 | ttuttle | milhouse: What about Herring? |
| 23:19.51 | milhouse | hard to say if it's out of date but "probably" |
| 23:20.03 | ttuttle | milhouse: Basically is there anything newer/better than Hacker 2007 for me to run on my 770? |
| 23:20.19 | milhouse | not sure about Herring either... there's so little accurate/up to date info about either - none of the documentation has been updated in months |
| 23:20.24 | ttuttle | milhouse: /me cries |
| 23:20.52 | milhouse | I tried Sardine on N800 today and it crapped out installing one of the libraries (lib-thumbnail or something) |
| 23:20.52 | ttuttle | milhouse: It's like those jokes about how you buy something and it's already obsolete and unsupported. Except it's true. |
| 23:21.05 | ttuttle | milhouse: Is there a way to back up the entire device, internal flash and all? |
| 23:21.25 | milhouse | ttuttle: only by copying to mmc/sd |
| 23:21.45 | ttuttle | milhouse: Could I tar up the entire root filesystem? |
| 23:21.56 | ttuttle | milhouse: Or could I install Sardine on the MMC card? |
| 23:21.56 | milhouse | probably, but what would you do with it? |
| 23:22.02 | milhouse | sardine on mmc is what i do |
| 23:22.13 | ttuttle | milhouse: Okay. What's it like? And where do I get it? |
| 23:23.02 | milhouse | when it works, it's not very usable - quite often the desktop is screwed up. i only try upgrading every now and again out of curiosity, hopfeul that i'll see something insanely great. no luck so far! |
| 23:23.17 | ttuttle | milhouse: Where do I get it? |
| 23:23.17 | milhouse | You can follow these instructions |
| 23:23.18 | milhouse | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowTo_GetStartedWithSardine |
| 23:23.28 | eugene | assuming you installed a package with make install within the n800 itself, does reflashing it remove everything with a default root tree? |
| 23:24.34 | ttuttle | milhouse: Will the 64MB card Nokia included be big enough? |
| 23:24.35 | milhouse | note that the repository in step 1.5 at the end is wrong... should be "deb http://repository.maemo.org sardine main non-free" |
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| 23:25.16 | milhouse | ttuttle: no, you'll need at least 128MB, possibly more |
| 23:25.22 | ttuttle | milhouse: What's in it that's so big? |
| 23:25.58 | milhouse | well your 64MB internal flash memory is compressed so will expand to more than 64Mb on an non-compressed filesystem such as ext2 |
| 23:26.05 | milhouse | plus you'll need some working space |
| 23:26.09 | ttuttle | milhouse: What if I use JFFS2 on the flash too? |
| 23:26.13 | ttuttle | milhouse: I mean on the MMC? |
| 23:26.20 | eugene | hmmm |
| 23:26.22 | milhouse | it might work |
| 23:26.29 | milhouse | probably easier to get a bigger card :) |
| 23:26.50 | ttuttle | milhouse: Yeah but I don't have one. |
| 23:27.31 | eugene | ttuttle: you will live with it when you can't even eject the card out :) |
| 23:28.03 | milhouse | eugene: your question about make, the answer is "yes" |
| 23:28.04 | ttuttle | eugene: Er, why wouldn't I be able to eject it? |
| 23:28.22 | eugene | milhouse: ah. |
| 23:28.52 | eugene | ttuttle: referring to my own experience with n800 external sd slot. maybe my nails aren't long enough :) |
| 23:29.04 | eugene | milhouse: with this? /flasher-3.0 -u -F RX-34_2007SE_3.2007.10-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
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| 23:29.47 | milhouse | that just unpacks the image into your current directory on your PC |
| 23:30.04 | milhouse | that won't reflash the device |
| 23:31.00 | eugene | milhouse: what if i want to reflash the device? |
| 23:37.30 | milhouse | try flasher-3.0 -f -R -F RX-34_2007SE_3.2007.10-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin |
| 23:38.34 | eugene | h |
| 23:38.36 | eugene | ah |
| 23:39.05 | eugene | milhouse: only this may be a silly question. what's the diff if it does the same thing? |
| 23:39.10 | eugene | s/only/ok/ |
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| 23:39.28 | milhouse | it doesn't |
| 23:39.32 | milhouse | do the same thing |
| 23:39.45 | eugene | probably the same effect, but what's the diff? |
| 23:40.20 | milhouse | the -u option unpacks the FIASCO image (which contains multiple seperate filesystems) to your local directory where you can then, if you choose, flash individual filesystems on to the device |
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| 23:41.11 | eugene | ah, ok. i got it. |
| 23:41.12 | milhouse | while the -f option does actually flash the FIASCO image (-F) or individual filesystems (-k, -x, -r, -n) on to the device |
| 23:42.27 | milhouse | if you just want to replace the kernel on your device, you can extract the kernel filesystem from the image using the -u option then flash the kernel on to the device using -x <name of kernel file> |
| 23:42.39 | milhouse | actually -f -x <kernel file> |
| 23:43.05 | milhouse | most likely you would replace the kernel with a community version with fast MMC support (770) or SDHC (n800) |
| 23:43.07 | eugene | ./flasher-3.0 -f -k zImage |
| 23:43.10 | milhouse | yep |
| 23:43.13 | eugene | nod. i did this yesterday. |
| 23:43.29 | milhouse | and maybe -r to automatically reboot it, but that's possibly a personal preference :) |
| 23:43.36 | eugene | nod nod :) |
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| 23:43.54 | cnc | argh |
| 23:43.59 | cnc | this problem isnt fixing itself =\ |
| 23:44.12 | eugene | i probably try to install the app manually, and then reflash it to get back the default factory reset |
| 23:44.35 | eugene | what that means is that i have to install the gcc and g++ as well :/ |
| 23:44.40 | milhouse | yes, that what reflashing - factory reset :) |
| 23:44.45 | cnc | anyone else having trouble with wifi? mine keeps going blind until you restart the tab |
| 23:44.50 | milhouse | s/reflashing/reflashing is/ |
| 23:44.58 | eugene | hehe |
| 23:45.23 | milhouse | cnc: solid as a rock here (Linksys WRT54GS v2 + Sveasoft firmware) |
| 23:45.27 | milhouse | and N800 |
| 23:45.30 | milhouse | and 770 :) |
| 23:45.52 | cnc | my 770 usually finds 5-10 ap`s |
| 23:46.08 | cnc | but randomly it decides to go blind and wont find anything till you reboot it |
| 23:46.30 | milhouse | You should file a bug |
| 23:46.48 | cnc | i dont know anything about linux or debugging |
| 23:47.32 | milhouse | Sign up at bugs.maemo.org and create an account then file a bug (see this one for reference: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1608) |
| 23:48.01 | milhouse | if you can provide as much detail as possible (your router make and firmware) then Nokia will hopefully investigate (even going so far as buying that make of router) |
| 23:48.27 | eugene | milhouse: luckily routers are cheaper than 16-gb numa machines |
| 23:48.33 | eugene | s/16-gb/ |
| 23:49.19 | milhouse | depends - i've seen routers costing over 100K :) |
| 23:49.54 | eugene | hehe |
| 23:50.29 | cnc | dont think its my router |
| 23:50.43 | cnc | cant connect to my router tho |
| 23:50.54 | milhouse | not saying it is, but Nokia need to reproduce the problem in order to fix the N800 (if it is the n800) |
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| 23:51.10 | cnc | it just connects and does a local link IP |
| 23:51.15 | cnc | when im 5 feet away from it |
| 23:51.19 | cnc | its a 770 |
| 23:51.20 | milhouse | have you got any mac address filtering? |
| 23:51.41 | cnc | nope, i tried it completely disabling all security |
| 23:51.45 | cnc | with wep, wpa |
| 23:51.49 | cnc | all variations |
| 23:51.56 | milhouse | what make/model/firmware is it? |
| 23:52.00 | milhouse | of the router |
| 23:52.05 | cnc | lemme check |
| 23:52.06 | milhouse | is it an 11n job? |
| 23:52.14 | milhouse | are you running the latest firmware? |
| 23:52.21 | milhouse | on the router |
| 23:53.43 | cnc | uh, doubt it |
| 23:53.49 | cnc | i havent touched the router in years |
| 23:53.57 | milhouse | you might want to update it |
| 23:53.59 | cnc | SMC 2804WBR |
| 23:54.07 | cnc | Hardware Version: 01 |
| 23:54.07 | cnc | Serial Num: A322020224 |
| 23:54.08 | milhouse | thats the first thing to try really |
| 23:54.47 | eugene | i havent seen instructions for this but is it possible to view and type chinese? |
| 23:55.11 | cnc | i think its the 770 though, i had the router off and my 770 wifi went blind |
| 23:55.12 | milhouse | view yes, type not so sure |
| 23:55.43 | cnc | i just recieved it yesterday and i had to reset it 4x now |
| 23:55.52 | cnc | so im thinking it may be a hardware fault |
| 23:56.02 | eugene | milhouse: any idea where i can download the fonts? |
| 23:56.03 | milhouse | cnc - well, check if it works with any other routers if you get the chance (public library?) but if it's specific to your router and you're running the latest router firmware then a bug report is probably the best way to progress resolution |
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| 23:56.35 | cnc | yeah the wifi runs great from a neighbor |
| 23:56.59 | cnc | but i dont feel like leeching from neighbors |
| 23:57.36 | cnc | and it wont connect to another neighbor router that my old ipaq had no trouble with (local link thing) |
| 23:57.44 | eugene | brb, reinstalling laptop. |
| 23:58.22 | milhouse | can you swap your 770 quite easily ? |
| 23:58.24 | cnc | but either way it shouldnt be going blind when there are 5-10 AP`s around |
| 23:58.35 | milhouse | is this with your SMC on or off? |
| 23:58.43 | cnc | off and on |
| 23:58.49 | cnc | and i bouhgt it from buy.com |
| 23:59.07 | cnc | havent checked their return policies |
| 23:59.19 | cnc | nokia support is off today |
| 23:59.19 | milhouse | there was someone on the ITT forum who said his device (I think it was a N800) went "blind" and he fixed it by replacing the battery... i've no idea why that would work though |
| 23:59.35 | cnc | mine requires a restart to fix it |
| 23:59.37 | milhouse | buy.com would be your best bet if you've just bought it |
| 23:59.51 | ttuttle | Blind to wifi? Oh, you can fix that with xterm. Just kill and restart wlancond. |
| 23:59.54 | milhouse | yeah, i think he actually replaced the battery with another but like i say, i've no idea why that should work |
