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| 00:09.17 | ttuttle | What does R&D mode do, besides bypass the check on gainroot? |
| 00:09.22 | ttuttle | And the pretty green messages, and the tool icon? |
| 00:17.55 | ttuttle | Hey, does anyone know where to get syntax highlighting for Vim on the Nokia 770? |
| 00:19.20 | jpt9 | you don't need to get it; just enable it. |
| 00:19.36 | ttuttle | jpt9: Er, no. |
| 00:19.50 | ttuttle | ~/MyDocs/Python $ vim test.py |
| 00:19.50 | ttuttle | Error detected while processing /home/user/.vimrc: |
| 00:19.50 | ttuttle | line 3: |
| 00:19.50 | ttuttle | E484: Can't open file /usr/share/vim/vim70/syntax/syntax.vim |
| 00:19.51 | ttuttle | Press ENTER or type command to continue |
| 00:20.03 | jpt9 | well, huh... |
| 00:20.08 | jpt9 | whoops... |
| 00:20.10 | ttuttle | jpt9: Where'd you get your vim package? |
| 00:20.21 | ttuttle | jpt9: Were you running it on your computer, not your N770? |
| 00:20.44 | ttuttle | I can always scp the files from my laptop. |
| 00:22.34 | ttuttle | jpt9: ...? |
| 00:23.07 | jpt9 | maemo.org... |
| 00:23.25 | ttuttle | jpt9: Hmm, that's where I got mine. click to install? |
| 00:23.34 | jpt9 | i think |
| 00:23.42 | ttuttle | I'll reinstall it. |
| 00:23.47 | jpt9 | ok |
| 00:24.38 | ttuttle | It's so @#$%#$% cool! |
| 00:25.02 | KaylaKaze | is there a better image viewer for 770 than the default? |
| 00:25.04 | ttuttle | Anyone know of a better editor for Python? |
| 00:25.11 | jpt9 | i know. we all know :-) |
| 00:25.24 | KaylaKaze | editor for python? you mean a text editor? |
| 00:25.39 | ttuttle | KaylaKaze: Yeah. For Python code that I'm developing *on* the N770 *for* the N770 ;-) |
| 00:25.50 | ttuttle | Is this bad? "dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `gstreamer0.10-hantro' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed." |
| 00:25.58 | KaylaKaze | well, 1, I'd suggest not using the 770 for writing the code :-P |
| 00:26.06 | ttuttle | KaylaKaze: Over ssh, most likely. |
| 00:26.19 | pupnik | KaylaKaze: why? it's python |
| 00:26.27 | jpt9 | what's wrong with vim? it's pretty much the best editor you'll get on the n770 for programming in any language |
| 00:26.36 | ttuttle | jpt9: It's the text input. |
| 00:26.38 | Niacin | damn it |
| 00:26.40 | KaylaKaze | why not just mount a share and edit the file directly with a IDE or good text editor? |
| 00:26.42 | Niacin | im so close to gettin this working |
| 00:26.48 | ttuttle | Is it feasible to install a full toolchain on the N770, anyway? |
| 00:26.55 | ttuttle | KaylaKaze: 'cause Vim *is* a good text editor, and it works now. |
| 00:26.56 | KaylaKaze | I use nano for text editing on ssy though |
| 00:27.07 | Niacin | http://www.pastebin.ca/599112 |
| 00:27.10 | pupnik | i wish the 770 had nfs server |
| 00:27.17 | Niacin | i think that means the chat script is wrong right? |
| 00:27.35 | jpt9 | aren't you using ssh? and therefore your laptop's keyboard? |
| 00:27.45 | KaylaKaze | ssh* |
| 00:28.16 | jpt9 | or am i missing something? |
| 00:28.30 | ttuttle | jpt9: No, I'm using the laptop, but I might want to use the N770 itself. For example on the bus. |
| 00:28.46 | ttuttle | jpt9: I have a 90 minute commute to and from work, might as well get some coding done :-) |
| 00:28.46 | jpt9 | oh. |
| 00:29.14 | KaylaKaze | yeah, you'll get about 15 minutes worth of normal coding in 90 minutes on the 770 |
| 00:29.16 | jpt9 | hmm.... |
| 00:29.21 | jpt9 | lol... |
| 00:29.39 | KaylaKaze | I can't even stand to type a whole mount command on the 770 |
| 00:29.41 | ttuttle | KaylaKaze: lol |
| 00:29.48 | jpt9 | well, if you use vim's abbreviations... |
| 00:29.51 | ttuttle | KaylaKaze: Maybe I'll write a kickass IDE with autocompletion and stuff. |
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| 00:29.54 | ttuttle | jpt9: Ooh, good idea. |
| 00:30.01 | jpt9 | yeah. |
| 00:30.21 | KaylaKaze | so, about that image viewer... is there one? |
| 00:31.12 | jpt9 | also, the n770's hwr is simpliwrite... i've used the palm version before. |
| 00:31.20 | ttuttle | jpt9: Ah. |
| 00:31.26 | ttuttle | jpt9: It's pretty good, I think. |
| 00:31.27 | milhouse | KaylaKaze - try Quiver |
| 00:32.47 | pupnik | KaylaKaze: there is a great new one - forgot the name - probably on garage now. i prefer gqview |
| 00:33.03 | jpt9 | this is so fun chatting on irc from the living room couch, |
| 00:33.35 | KaylaKaze | downloading quiver... |
| 00:36.33 | KaylaKaze | sweet! Quiver has direct filesystem access |
| 00:37.47 | ttuttle | Python works! |
| 00:37.58 | jpt9 | amazing |
| 00:38.00 | KaylaKaze | of course it does |
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| 00:38.16 | ttuttle | Yeah, but it's cool. I can code on the N770! |
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| 00:41.01 | Dr_Nunim | I tried to do some php on mine |
| 00:41.04 | Dr_Nunim | but it took too long. |
| 00:42.05 | ttuttle_ | n770 ftw! |
| 00:42.42 | pupnik | Don't forget scummvm, mplayer... |
| 00:43.01 | pupnik | a few xmame games work great |
| 00:43.02 | unique311 | http://youtube.com/watch?v=tInERBYH9JE |
| 00:43.08 | pupnik | hi unique311 |
| 00:43.08 | unique311 | skype clip |
| 00:43.16 | unique311 | whats up? |
| 00:43.29 | pupnik | avoiding anything productive as usual |
| 00:47.06 | KaylaKaze | this quiver may not be bad for comic book viewing |
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| 00:54.45 | KaylaKaze | with a little bit of improved functionality, quiver would be great for comic viewing |
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| 00:58.00 | KaylaKaze | I wonder if they use any special optimized code for file loading or if the same could be accomplished with a normal image load such as in python or gdk |
| 00:58.55 | Dr_Nunim | People bitching about myspace on woot forums must be some idiots. |
| 00:59.04 | Dr_Nunim | Works fine, slow as it might be due to bad user page layouts. |
| 01:00.28 | KaylaKaze | cd /media |
| 01:00.32 | KaylaKaze | eek |
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| 01:01.53 | ericz_ | gaim must be causing my issues with menus flashing white and closing |
| 01:02.34 | ericz_ | haven't had the issue all day, until now, when i use gaim |
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| 01:09.02 | Niacin | hmm i think i figured out whats wrong |
| 01:09.08 | Niacin | its binding to the wrong port |
| 01:09.31 | Niacin | eh channel not port |
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| 01:10.15 | KaylaKaze | It'd be nice to be able to replace the default file browser for when a program uses File-Open |
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| 01:18.53 | jga23 | what is python osso? |
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| 01:32.12 | ttuttle | Is there any way to check Gmail with POP without making messages disappear? |
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| 01:43.59 | Sulis_ | ttuttle: yes, it's all in the gmail setting |
| 01:44.04 | Sulis_ | settings |
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| 01:45.43 | ttuttle | Sulis_: hmm. I've had problems with it before. |
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| 01:45.58 | Sulis_ | with it deleting messages? |
| 01:46.03 | Sulis_ | i've never had that |
| 01:46.17 | ttuttle | Sulis_: No, they just don't show up in POP after I've fetched them once. |
| 01:46.22 | ttuttle | Sulis_: They aren't deleted or archived. |
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| 01:47.35 | Sulis_ | hmm, that doesn't happen for me... |
| 01:47.48 | KaylaKaze | shit. I broke my cifs connecting |
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| 01:49.49 | Sulis_ | ttuttle: there's a setting that says "Enable POP for all mail (even mail that's already been downloaded)" |
| 01:50.39 | KaylaKaze | and I fixed it. If anyone wants cifs sharing, I've determined it's the "smbbrowser" package that'll do it |
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| 01:52.13 | ttuttle | Sulis_: I don't know if that works. I think it just resets it to show all messages, but they still disappear after you fetch them once. |
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| 01:53.36 | Sulis_ | well...it works for me, i always get all the mail that's been sent to me... |
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| 02:02.16 | ttuttle | Is it possible to get the 770 to cause a cell phone to dial a certain number, like if you look it up in Contacts? |
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| 02:02.46 | milhouse | there's an app for that |
| 02:03.14 | ttuttle | milhouse: Oh? |
| 02:03.21 | ttuttle | milhouse: Is it the one that uses gnokii? |
| 02:03.33 | milhouse | can't remember what it's called and... maemo.org/downloads is down :( |
| 02:03.50 | ttuttle | oh :-( |
| 02:05.46 | ttuttle | well, i'm going to bed. g'nite, and thanks to all for the help. |
| 02:08.54 | milhouse | ttuttle - in case you check back via google... it's called phonelink |
| 02:09.10 | milhouse | take a dump for me too pupnik ;) |
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| 02:10.55 | omnix | Hi |
| 02:11.26 | omnix | any news on voip for 770? |
| 02:11.43 | omnix | just got Gizmo to work as a sip client for my asterisk box |
| 02:11.59 | omnix | but when i use it to call phones outside my network, i can hear them but they can't hear me |
| 02:12.34 | omnix | what other sip/iax clients are there for maemo? |
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| 02:15.43 | pupnik_ | duno |
| 02:15.51 | pupnik_ | :) |
| 02:16.24 | Xenon3DN | Still hoping to find someone who knows something about installing smbfs or cifs on 770/2006/mistral. |
| 02:16.49 | KaylaKaze | I've got cifs running |
| 02:16.55 | pupnik_ | i never really tried - someone here did |
| 02:16.57 | KaylaKaze | install smbbrowser |
| 02:17.14 | KaylaKaze | then you can use mount -t cifs to mount windows shares |
| 02:17.28 | Xenon3DN | Smbbroswer says it needs the smbfs package: |
| 02:17.29 | Xenon3DN | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/smbbrowser/ |
| 02:17.35 | Xenon3DN | Is that incorrect then? |
| 02:17.44 | omnix | download smbclient |
| 02:17.44 | KaylaKaze | yeah |
| 02:17.52 | KaylaKaze | smclient and smbbrowser |
| 02:17.56 | KaylaKaze | smbclient* |
| 02:17.56 | omnix | smbclient allows u to mount cifs |
| 02:17.58 | Xenon3DN | Well, shooooot. |
| 02:18.03 | KaylaKaze | not by itself it doesn't |
| 02:18.12 | milhouse | Xenon3DN - check http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/#mmcplus |
| 02:18.19 | milhouse | cifs modules |
| 02:18.21 | milhouse | are there |
| 02:18.30 | pupnik_ | E: Couldn't find package smbclient |
| 02:18.33 | omnix | is there a slingplayer for maemo? |
| 02:18.39 | KaylaKaze | I unistalled all my samba stuff to make room and when I couldn't mount(thinking cifs wasn't samba) I install smbclient first and it still didn't work |
| 02:19.02 | pupnik_ | Nokia-N800-48:~# apt-cache search smb |
| 02:19.02 | pupnik_ | mc - midnight commander - a powerful file manager |
| 02:19.14 | KaylaKaze | smbclient just shows up in my appman. I don't know repositoy I have listed that has it though |
| 02:19.25 | Xenon3DN | milhouse: Not immediately seeing sny smb-related there. Hit me with the clue-by-4. |
| 02:19.32 | KaylaKaze | I'm trying to decide if I should install mc |
| 02:19.48 | pupnik_ | last time i looked at smb stuff it was many megabytes |
| 02:20.18 | KaylaKaze | with maemo.org down, you might not be able to get it right now |
| 02:20.18 | milhouse | Xenon3DN - download the tar file, it contains smbfs and lots of other filesystem support |
| 02:20.32 | KaylaKaze | it's about 6 megs for smbclient and smbbrowser |
| 02:20.35 | milhouse | it only mentions a subset of the supported modules on the web page... |
| 02:21.17 | KaylaKaze | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/smbbrowser/ |
| 02:21.32 | omnix | if you don't mind me asking, what are you looking to do with smb? |
| 02:21.36 | KaylaKaze | so that repository may have the smblite |
| 02:21.36 | Xenon3DN | Ok. I see it now. not sure why I didn't pick up cifs on that fanoush page. |
| 02:22.06 | Xenon3DN | I'd like to maybe browse pictures or other files on my Linux fileserver. Why? |
| 02:22.40 | milhouse | "Additional modules" for 2.2006.39-14 is probably what you are after (should work with mistral...) |
| 02:22.57 | omnix | oh, linux? |
| 02:23.10 | omnix | does maemo support nfs out of the box? |
| 02:23.19 | milhouse | not out of the box |
| 02:23.21 | Xenon3DN | Yeah, Linux fileserver. I don't think it speaks NFS. |
| 02:23.22 | pupnik_ | which sux |
| 02:23.33 | milhouse | but modules are available for nfs |
| 02:23.37 | pupnik_ | need a special kernel afaik |
| 02:23.58 | KaylaKaze | I need to get a pencil style stylus. I think my actual mechanical pencil would probably scratch the screen |
| 02:24.03 | omnix | what do ppl use to stream mp3s to their 770? |
| 02:24.06 | pupnik_ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: nfs-common: Depends: adduser but it is not installable |
| 02:24.19 | pupnik_ | IT2007HE is... a WIP |
| 02:24.37 | omnix | what's WIP? |
| 02:24.44 | Xenon3DN | Work in Progress. |
| 02:25.05 | omnix | ah. i just got my 770 today. playing around with it as much as I can |
| 02:25.10 | omnix | should I stick with IT2006? |
| 02:25.19 | pupnik_ | i'd advise that |
| 02:25.19 | Xenon3DN | I have an icecast (OGG Vorbis) server on my Linux machine, but I use it to stream realtime audio, not songs. But it can stream songs. |
| 02:25.55 | omnix | xenon, what client for maemo is used with that? |
| 02:25.55 | pupnik_ | mplayer can do ogg streams, dunno what else |
| 02:25.56 | Xenon3DN | I was able to listen to my icecast stream with Meamo's OGG Player. But the player doesn't seem to have a way to remember or bookmark a stream from one run to another. :( |
| 02:25.58 | KaylaKaze | if I could make a piece of plastic about an inch long and .5 mm around with a small ball on the end (or a styraight pin that thin with a tiny plastic ball on the end) I could load it in my mech. pencil and use it... |
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| 02:28.29 | pupnik_ | KaylaKaze: ...uhh... what? |
| 02:28.41 | Xenon3DN | Like, a round-ended fake pencil lead. |
| 02:29.09 | pupnik_ | Oh for a more comfortable stylus? |
| 02:29.27 | Dr_Nunim | I use my office depot plastic mechanical pencil |
| 02:29.31 | Xenon3DN | EMachineshop might be able to make you one, if you could find the right materials and process to fab it: |
| 02:29.32 | Dr_Nunim | It's out of lead and has a plastic tip |
| 02:29.34 | Xenon3DN | http://www.emachineshop.com/ |
| 02:30.36 | pupnik_ | I want someone who can manufacture a few hundred replacement aluminum sliding covers, with wings on the side containing a bluetooth gamepad with buttons on each side |
| 02:31.24 | KaylaKaze | is there a way I can make mount not need root? |
| 02:31.31 | KaylaKaze | pupnik_: yes |
| 02:32.12 | KaylaKaze | well, I have a mech pencil I realy like and is very comfortable put it has a metal tip' |
| 02:33.18 | milhouse | KaylaKaze - sudo, most likely |
| 02:35.13 | Xenon3DN | pupnik: I probably know someone who could do that for you, but it ain't cheap. ;) |
| 02:37.15 | pupnik_ | I just pray that the N900 will have gaming-compatible controls. |
| 02:37.47 | pupnik_ | This "thou shalt not play games" product design should have died with the original IBM PC in 1981 |
| 02:38.46 | KaylaKaze | I found a .5mm wire |
| 02:38.56 | KaylaKaze | and I'm gonna make a plastic tip with my hot glue gun |
| 02:39.19 | Xenon3DN | Mmmm. I bet you could find solder in the right size and melt the tip into a ball. |
| 02:40.08 | KaylaKaze | yeah, but I don't want a metal tip, even if smooth. I would be concerned about scratching it... though I do have some pretty smooth solder... |
| 02:40.42 | Xenon3DN | Well, hot glue is probably the next best bet. Maybe a small rod in a plastic BB or the like? |
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| 02:41.17 | omnix | what PIM app do most ppl use |
| 02:41.37 | pupnik_ | vi |
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| 02:42.07 | Xenon3DN | Omnix: Palm Treo. ;) |
| 02:42.26 | pupnik_ | You can run Palm software on the Nokias now |
| 02:42.39 | omnix | how's that work |
| 02:42.41 | rwhitby | pupnik_: is there a .deb for that yet? |
| 02:42.49 | pupnik_ | think aso |
| 02:42.49 | rwhitby | omnix: it runs POSE |
| 02:43.57 | pupnik_ | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=240 |
| 02:44.22 | pupnik_ | that's a .deb for Bora afaict |
| 02:44.27 | omnix | can this run palm 5 or only up to palm 4.x? |
| 02:44.32 | pupnik_ | 4.5 i think |
| 02:44.49 | pupnik_ | only 68k palms |
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| 02:52.44 | Xenon3DN | Ok, KaylaKaze, I'm a N770/Maemo noob, having gotten it on Friday from buy.com, but I'm a debian old hand. Spell out for me, using _small_ words, what the minimum I need to mount a smb filesystem from my Linux machine? |
| 02:57.12 | pupnik_ | i'd go with nfs or sshfs just to avoid the BLECH factor... |
| 02:57.26 | pupnik_ | usually i scp -c blowfish stuff back and forth |
| 02:58.23 | Xenon3DN | Well, yeah, but I have a working SMB system, so I don't want to screw with it otherwise, if I can get smbfs or cifs to work. Is nfs faster on N770 or something? |
| 02:59.09 | pupnik_ | no idea, last i checked you needed to install a kernel with nfs compiled-in |
| 02:59.27 | Xenon3DN | So, about the same difficulty level as getting smbfs to work. ;) |
| 03:00.00 | pupnik_ | Yeah, but that root filesystem fills fast |
| 03:00.13 | pupnik_ | 12 MB for SMB is BLECH |
| 03:00.38 | Xenon3DN | DO you really need all of that? I didn't think you did, just for the client. |
| 03:01.06 | pupnik_ | i dunno - going from memory |
| 03:01.28 | milhouse | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/HowToAccessWindowsCIFS |
| 03:01.30 | JussiP | For mounting, yes. For simple file transfer just use smbclient or Nautilus or Konqueror. |
| 03:01.47 | pupnik_ | nautilus has built-in smb? |
| 03:02.00 | milhouse | Are you trying to mount a Windows share? |
| 03:02.02 | JussiP | Yes. |
| 03:03.15 | Xenon3DN | Yeah, my purposes need real mounting. Thanks milhouse, gonna go read that. Does that work with the smbbrowser? |
| 03:03.29 | milhouse | don't know, never used smbbrowser |
| 03:04.39 | Xenon3DN | KaylaKaze apparently has, but seems to be idle now. |
| 03:05.12 | JussiP | http://www.ricardis.tudelft.nl/~vincent/fusesmb/ |
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| 03:12.24 | KaylaKaze | I was trying to make a new stylus... failed. |
| 03:12.40 | Xenon3DN | Bummer. |
| 03:13.22 | Xenon3DN | So, do you use smbbrowser with the smbclient package or the cifs.ko module, or what? |
| 03:13.32 | KaylaKaze | if you mount a share to a directory that has files with it, will those files still be there when it's unmounted? |
| 03:13.50 | KaylaKaze | I use the cifs module |
| 03:14.14 | Xenon3DN | From the fanoush page? |
| 03:14.24 | KaylaKaze | but those provide it and I don't know enough about it to nuke their packages yet keep the cifs access |
| 03:14.32 | KaylaKaze | no, smbbrowser and smbclient install it |
| 03:14.47 | Xenon3DN | But you need both those packages to get that working, right? |
| 03:14.52 | KaylaKaze | I think so |
| 03:15.02 | KaylaKaze | I haven't tried just smbbrowser |
| 03:15.11 | KaylaKaze | I know just smbclient won't do it |
| 03:15.28 | Xenon3DN | I'll go try it. What kind of files have you accessed over SMB? |
| 03:15.39 | KaylaKaze | but it's smbbrowser that puts the cifs module in |
| 03:15.55 | KaylaKaze | mp3s, pictures, pdfs |
| 03:15.58 | KaylaKaze | texts |
| 03:16.22 | Xenon3DN | Are you able to play mp3s over smb, or just copy them to local storage? |
| 03:16.32 | KaylaKaze | and I used it to work on some web code on my windows pc and I was able to save it to the shared directory and just cp it from there to my var/www directory |
| 03:17.10 | KaylaKaze | I can play them but they pause for about half a second every couple of seconds in the default music player |
| 03:17.40 | Xenon3DN | Bummer. Have you tried something like mplayer? |
| 03:17.43 | KaylaKaze | this Xournal kicks ass. That's why I needed a more comfy stylus |
| 03:17.51 | KaylaKaze | yeah, but mplayer killed my system |
| 03:18.00 | KaylaKaze | when trying to play video |
| 03:18.09 | KaylaKaze | and I don't know how to use it enough to play audio |
| 03:18.09 | Xenon3DN | Hmm. |
| 03:18.30 | KaylaKaze | the GUI on it is horrid and I couldn't find the command line to play it (mplayer didn't seem to work) |
| 03:18.36 | KaylaKaze | I didn't try too hard though |
| 03:18.45 | jga23 | I've created a python app for my n800 and I want to create a shortcut to it, where do I place the .desktop file? |
| 03:19.12 | Xenon3DN | I'd love to find a way to make the N770 sort of a squeezebox. |
| 03:19.15 | KaylaKaze | I installed a UPnP program on my PC to stream stuff but it erased my c:\ directory. It does work well though for streaming. |
| 03:19.27 | pupnik_ | there's a front end for mythtv btw |
| 03:19.45 | pupnik_ | watch tv on your 770 |
| 03:21.13 | Xenon3DN | I see the fanoush page refers to two different IT2006 releases. How do I tell which one I have? |
| 03:25.03 | Xenon3DN | I can't seem to install smbbrowser because it's complaining that the smbfs package is missing. But that's the package I haven't been able to locate. |
| 03:25.25 | KaylaKaze | hehehe the "control panel->memory" is counting my shares as using space so it says I have over 40GB of files on the 770 |
| 03:26.24 | KaylaKaze | it's on one of the repositoryies... |
| 03:26.46 | KaylaKaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.22 | Xenon3DN | It's supposed to be on maemo-hackers according to the smbbrowser page: |
| 03:27.22 | Xenon3DN | https://garage.maemo.org/forum/forum.php?thread_id=244&forum_id=274 |
| 03:27.36 | Xenon3DN | But once you go there I can't find it: |
| 03:27.36 | Xenon3DN | http://maemo-hackers.org/ |
| 03:27.45 | KaylaKaze | well, get it there then. That's a good repositiory to have in the first place |
| 03:28.19 | KaylaKaze | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ApplicationRepositories |
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| 03:29.12 | KaylaKaze | I need to write an image viewer :-( |
| 03:29.16 | Xenon3DN | I have maemo-hackers.org/apt mistral main in my Catalog list, but it's not showing me the smbfs package. Am I doing soemthing stupid here? |
| 03:29.30 | KaylaKaze | I guess not then. They must not have it |
| 03:29.44 | Xenon3DN | That's where you got it? |
| 03:30.08 | KaylaKaze | try bgtan.net/etrunko mistral user |
| 03:30.13 | Xenon3DN | ... |
| 03:30.30 | KaylaKaze | bgran* |
| 03:31.07 | KaylaKaze | hmmm.. maybe not there. |
| 03:31.22 | KaylaKaze | I'm going through my repository list. I know it's one of the repositories at the top |
| 03:31.48 | Xenon3DN | I couldn't connect to that repo at all. |
| 03:32.18 | Xenon3DN | I can't imagine why it would be gone from maemo-hackers, everything seem to indicate it's supposed to be hosted there. |
| 03:34.39 | KaylaKaze | it is |
| 03:34.52 | Xenon3DN | Ok, then I must be doing something stupid. |
| 03:34.52 | KaylaKaze | http://maemo-hackers.org/apt/pool/main/s/ |
| 03:35.33 | KaylaKaze | do you have "http://maemo-hackers.org/apt mistral main" in your appman? |
| 03:35.45 | KaylaKaze | (making sure you had main and not user for components) |
| 03:36.01 | Xenon3DN | Yeah, I have exactly that (main). |
| 03:36.30 | KaylaKaze | weird. Well, I guess you can just get the debs from there if appman won't show it |
| 03:36.36 | Xenon3DN | I can probably fetch that deb with the browser and have application manager open and install it, even though I can't see it in the packages list. |
| 03:36.41 | Xenon3DN | Yeah, that. ;) |
| 03:37.00 | Xenon3DN | Just wish I had a clue what was wrong so I understood how to do it right in the future. |
| 03:37.05 | KaylaKaze | both of these sookuo programs suck |
| 03:37.17 | Xenon3DN | Sudoku? |
| 03:37.23 | KaylaKaze | yeah |
| 03:37.30 | KaylaKaze | I don't know why I spelled it so weird |
| 03:37.56 | KaylaKaze | but since it wasn't close, I'm guessing my fingers just missed everything :-) |
| 03:38.10 | KaylaKaze | I should see if there's a javascript sudoku |
| 03:38.48 | KaylaKaze | here's one... but I don't like it |
| 03:39.18 | Xenon3DN | I'm a recovering sudoku fan. I looked over the edge, and stepped back. |
| 03:39.40 | Xenon3DN | "Unable to install. Incompatible package" WTF? |
| 03:40.15 | KaylaKaze | use dpkg 0i to isntall it then |
| 03:40.22 | KaylaKaze | use dpkg -i to isntall it then* |
| 03:40.27 | KaylaKaze | but that's weird |
| 03:40.44 | Xenon3DN | I'm wondering if it's telling me something I should be listening to. |
| 03:41.03 | KaylaKaze | I'm wondering why it's not showing up in your appman |
| 03:41.30 | Xenon3DN | So, there's multiple version of the 2006 OS? Could I have an older incompatible version? |
| 03:41.38 | KaylaKaze | are you sure you're selecting to show all packages and that hackers is enabled? |
| 03:41.45 | KaylaKaze | you could |
| 03:41.51 | KaylaKaze | but not likely |
| 03:42.02 | Xenon3DN | Let me re-check the repos in the list. |
| 03:42.30 | Xenon3DN | ITOS2006: 3.2006.49-2. That mean anything to anyone here? |
| 03:42.48 | KaylaKaze | What's the default lock code? |
| 03:42.54 | KaylaKaze | that's the current one |
| 03:43.31 | Xenon3DN | I don't know what a lock code is or where to find it. |
| 03:43.57 | KaylaKaze | sorry, I meant that as an open question to the room |
| 03:48.41 | Xenon3DN | Ok, I haven't messed with a shell on this yet. Do I need to install something to get a shell? |
| 03:52.43 | Dr_Nunim | xterm |
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| 03:58.32 | Xenon3DN | Ok, now I apparently need to become root, right? |
| 04:00.34 | jga23 | anybody have any experience with creating .desktop files for python apps? |
| 04:02.25 | KaylaKaze | I find it easier to ssh in from my desktop for mounting |
| 04:03.15 | Xenon3DN | I mean, I need to become root on the 770 in order to execute the dpkg -i, correct? |
| 04:03.19 | KaylaKaze | I just installed Fuppes. seems to be doing a good job of audio streaming |
| 04:03.24 | KaylaKaze | yes |
| 04:04.08 | Xenon3DN | I see some people using SlimServer as well. Investigating that myself. |
| 04:05.01 | KaylaKaze | I installed SimpleClient last night but I don't like it. PLus it erased my c:\ |
| 04:05.11 | Xenon3DN | Fuppes looks very nice though. You're using it with Canola? |
| 04:05.47 | Xenon3DN | SimpleClient is...? |
| 04:05.58 | KaylaKaze | I tried it with canola and now I'm trying it with Media Streamer |
| 04:06.38 | KaylaKaze | sorry, my brains is screwed up. It's SimpleCast |
| 04:06.57 | KaylaKaze | Canola doesn't do playlisting, does it? |
| 04:07.32 | KaylaKaze | it'd be cool if I could connect to the UPnP over the net |
| 04:07.35 | Xenon3DN | I haven't tried it, I just see it listed on the Fuppes web page. |
| 04:07.46 | KaylaKaze | like, when I'm not home |
| 04:09.04 | Xenon3DN | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SlimServer |
| 04:09.08 | KaylaKaze | I suppose, if you wanted to stream audio remotely, you could set up winamp to output shoutcast and use a web interface to winamp |
| 04:09.50 | KaylaKaze | fuppes does video too |
| 04:12.43 | KaylaKaze | I just had Fuppes crash on me :-( |
| 04:14.55 | KaylaKaze | ooo! A filebrowser! |
| 04:16.12 | Dr_Nunim | canoe? |
| 04:16.25 | KaylaKaze | yep |
| 04:16.52 | Dr_Nunim | any good? |
| 04:17.07 | KaylaKaze | about to try it |
| 04:17.37 | cesman | got a link to canoe? |
| 04:18.17 | KaylaKaze | well, it looks likr it does what it's supposed to |
| 04:18.44 | KaylaKaze | it's on the maemo->downloads->Desktop page |
| 04:18.57 | cesman | found it |
| 04:19.59 | pupnik_ | oww my pc won't run crysis |
| 04:21.59 | KaylaKaze | I wonder if I could safely delete my themes other than the one I'm using |
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| 04:28.18 | KaylaKaze | ooooo! Puchi sounds cool... but stotage intensive |
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| 04:30.32 | Xenon3DN | Is there a real SIP phone that works with arbitrary Asterisk servers? I get the impression Gizmo doesn't. |
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| 04:35.46 | omnix | i was able to get Gizmo to work my asterisk server |
| 04:35.59 | Xenon3DN | Really? Cool. Did it work well? |
| 04:36.28 | GeneralAntilles | http://gizmoproject.com/asterisk.html |
| 04:36.33 | omnix | i don't think it was a true sip client |
| 04:36.51 | omnix | it seemed like i would connect to gizmo and from gizmo, it would connect to my asterisk |
| 04:37.04 | omnix | instead of going from 770/800 to my asterisk directly |
| 04:37.44 | Xenon3DN | Hmm. That seems hoopty. So, you need an account with them? |
| 04:37.51 | omnix | yeah. it's free though |
| 04:37.59 | KaylaKaze | I should make a Shining Force style game for 770 |
| 04:38.06 | omnix | how do I reboot the 770? |
| 04:38.20 | omnix | i'm a rhel/fedora/centos guy. |
| 04:38.47 | GeneralAntilles | Turn it off and turn it back on? |
| 04:39.11 | KaylaKaze | the easiest way to reboot is to type "reboot" in the shell if you have root |
| 04:39.18 | omnix | yeah i'm ssh'd in |
| 04:40.04 | omnix | thx |
| 04:43.49 | Xenon3DN | Hey Kayla, I had to wget and dpkg the smbfs, but now smbbrowser works. Thanks! |
| 04:44.08 | KaylaKaze | I never really got smbbrowser working :-) |
| 04:44.22 | KaylaKaze | I just made a script and mount them by hand :-) |
| 04:44.41 | Xenon3DN | You're more hardcore than me, I'm not there yet. |
| 04:44.44 | KaylaKaze | I wonder if "Battle for Wesnoth" could be ported... |
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| 04:48.58 | Xenon3DN | Wonder if Canola has a configurable buffersize. I'dsure like to play mp3s straight off my shared filesystem. |
| 04:49.14 | k-s[AWAY] | Xenon3DN: no, it doesn't |
| 04:49.19 | Xenon3DN | :( |
| 04:49.30 | k-s[AWAY] | Xenon3DN: actually, canola uses osso media server to play them |
| 04:49.38 | k-s[AWAY] | it's not even the same process |
| 04:49.54 | Xenon3DN | Ah. |
| 04:50.12 | Xenon3DN | HOw about mplayer? |
| 04:50.45 | k-s | Xenon3DN: you can get our mplayer plugin |
| 04:51.00 | k-s | Xenon3DN: then you set ~/.mplayer/config with your desired cache |
| 04:51.04 | k-s | that should work fine |
| 04:51.16 | KaylaKaze | if you want to stream music, the best way is with Canola or Media Streamer and a UPnP server like Fuppes (probably) |
| 04:51.16 | Xenon3DN | Tell me more. Plugin for what? |
| 04:51.44 | Xenon3DN | Kayla: I'll probably go that way eventually, but if I can just play a few MP3s for now, it would be nice. |
| 04:51.50 | k-s | Xenon3DN: we have a plugin to use mplayer as underneath media player |
| 04:52.16 | Xenon3DN | Where can I find the plugin? |
| 04:52.17 | k-s | Xenon3DN: and yes, KaylaKaze solution is the "expected" and supported one |
| 04:52.27 | k-s | Xenon3DN: let me search |
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| 04:52.53 | Xenon3DN | I see mplayer does OGG too, I would like to ditch OGGPlayer, as I wasn't impressed by it. |
| 04:53.03 | KaylaKaze | expected? It's just the one I find to be best as I have problems trying to play them off the share directly |
| 04:53.12 | KaylaKaze | but I wasn't using mplayer |
| 04:54.06 | KaylaKaze | I've only got 5M free... |
| 04:54.30 | Xenon3DN | I seem to have a lot more free, on a stock N770. Do you have a ton of stuff installed? Or lots of media? |
| 04:55.21 | KaylaKaze | python, mimo, my theme and smb stuff take a good chunk |
| 04:55.25 | KaylaKaze | I have no media on it |
| 04:56.27 | k-s | Xenon3DN: ah, mplayer plugin is in our repository, but you need to add "experimental" component... |
| 04:56.43 | Xenon3DN | Ok. What repository is this? |
| 04:57.06 | k-s | http://openbossa.indt.org.br/canola/repository/bora |
| 04:57.08 | KaylaKaze | that space thing was why I wanted to nuke my themes |
| 04:57.13 | k-s | distribution: bora |
| 04:57.21 | k-s | component: user experimental |
| 04:57.52 | Xenon3DN | I'm not up on all the distribution stuff -- this is going to work on a N770/ITOS2006? |
| 05:01.18 | k-s | Xenon3DN: not this repo, you should use http://openbossa.indt.org.br/canola/repository/770 |
| 05:01.59 | Xenon3DN | and 770 in the distribution field too, then? |
| 05:04.24 | Xenon3DN | looks like it should be mistral |
| 05:05.30 | KaylaKaze | is there a command to see how much space a directory takes up, with optional recursion info? |
| 05:05.44 | Xenon3DN | k-s: So, which packages exactly do I need? Canola plus canola-mplayer? Do I need mplayer itself from somewhere else, or is it in the mplayer plugin? |
| 05:06.02 | Xenon3DN | KaylaKaze: du normally, but not sure if it's included. |
| 05:06.16 | k-s | Xenon3DN: this package pull them all |
| 05:06.17 | KaylaKaze | yep |
| 05:06.37 | Xenon3DN | KaylaKaze: Is du included then? |
| 05:06.38 | KaylaKaze | now if I just new how to use it... |
| 05:06.41 | KaylaKaze | yes |
| 05:06.50 | Xenon3DN | du <directoryname> |
| 05:07.08 | KaylaKaze | then maybe it's a different type of du then |
| 05:07.17 | KaylaKaze | 'cause this isn't giving me any filesizes |
| 05:08.26 | Xenon3DN | du -h <dir> |
| 05:08.36 | KaylaKaze | ah, ok |
| 05:08.53 | KaylaKaze | I was acctually experimenting with the options and found it |
| 05:08.59 | Xenon3DN | -h: Human-readable. ;) |
| 05:09.36 | KaylaKaze | is there a way to make it add all those together? |
| 05:10.00 | Xenon3DN | -s ? |
| 05:10.04 | Xenon3DN | http://linux.about.com/library/cmd/blcmdl1_du.htm |
| 05:10.11 | KaylaKaze | ah, thanks |
| 05:10.40 | KaylaKaze | actually, I get what I want with -ashL |
| 05:12.34 | KaylaKaze | I think I'm gonna move most of my themes to my pc and see what happens |
| 05:15.02 | Xenon3DN | k-s: I have installed the canola and canola-mplayer packages. Now I should have mplayer support in the Media Player? |
| 05:15.35 | k-s | Xenon3DN: you should check the web-ui and enable this plugin |
| 05:15.43 | KaylaKaze | oh good. It's not breakign anything. Those themes just don't show up in the chooser |
| 05:16.03 | Xenon3DN | Not sure what web-ui you're referring to. Something in Media Player? |
| 05:23.20 | Dr_Nunim | I'm not sure which mail client to use |
| 05:23.32 | Dr_Nunim | Claws-mail is a little faster as well as easier to customize/more options. |
| 05:23.40 | Dr_Nunim | but the inbuilt one looks a bit nicer |
| 05:23.51 | Dr_Nunim | and slightly better orginization |
| 05:23.55 | KaylaKaze | moving the city maps I had stored over to the MC. That'll free up some room |
| 05:24.19 | KaylaKaze | or would have... except it 'caused my system to reboot instead. |
| 05:24.34 | Xenon3DN | k-s: Can you clarify what I need to do to make the mplayer plugin work inside Media Player? |
| 05:25.14 | k-s | Xenon3DN: there is a "Configure Canola" on maemo menu |
| 05:25.37 | Xenon3DN | I see it, yes. |
| 05:26.31 | Xenon3DN | It's complaining about Javascript not being enabled in my browser. I'm using the built-in browser. Is that ok? |
| 05:27.12 | Xenon3DN | Ah. I see... |
| 05:27.27 | Dr_Nunim | turn on javascript would be a start :o |
| 05:27.50 | Xenon3DN | Had to scroll down to see the steps. |
| 05:28.06 | KaylaKaze | great... now my system freezes when I go into file manager |
| 05:28.46 | Xenon3DN | You borked it. ;) |
| 05:28.57 | omnix | what are some tips to improve overall performance of the 770? |
| 05:29.04 | KaylaKaze | I wish I could get this thing to autoconnect to my wifi on startup |
| 05:29.06 | omnix | it's a little slow for my tastes |
| 05:33.17 | Xenon3DN | k-s: Ok, in the plugins page of the web configure UI, I see IRadio, Photocast and Podcast. Am I missing something? |
| 05:34.31 | k-s | Xenon3DN: let me check, I have not wrote that and it was a long time since I've checked |
| 05:34.53 | k-s | maybe you have a configure-something for that (package to be installed) |
| 05:38.37 | omnix | is there a way to add more applets to HOME? |
| 05:38.39 | k-s | Xenon3DN: canola-mplayer-plugin-configure-mplayer but seems you have to install that from xterm |
| 05:38.58 | k-s | I'm not sure, just looked at package on website |
| 05:39.25 | k-s | omnix: yes, just click the menu at top and check it there |
| 05:41.05 | k-s | Xenon3DN: sorry, I misinterpreted it.. it should be installed and enabled when you access "configure canola" |
| 05:41.09 | KaylaKaze | mplayer video is kinda slow... |
| 05:41.28 | k-s | possible you need to restart your 770 |
| 05:41.46 | Xenon3DN | Ok. A "reboot" from the shell, or what's the best way to restart? |
| 05:41.53 | k-s | do it with the battery cable disconnected |
| 05:42.08 | k-s | Xenon3DN: if you have xterm, just "killall -9 canola-conf |
| 05:42.13 | k-s | and it will do it |
| 05:43.25 | Dr_Nunim | UK tube works decently. |
| 05:43.44 | Dr_Nunim | shame mplayer has such issues. |
| 05:43.44 | Xenon3DN | OK, did the killall. Do I need to restart Canola now or something? |
| 05:44.23 | k-s | Xenon3DN: no, when you click the menu it should use DBus activation to start web server before starting the browser |
| 05:44.41 | KaylaKaze | mplayer seems to play over share well |
| 05:45.54 | KaylaKaze | a nice gui frontend wouldn't hurt though |
| 05:46.18 | Xenon3DN | KaylaKaze: Hence, why I want the MediaPlayer integration to work. |
| 05:46.59 | KaylaKaze | I still don't get it. Canola works fine without needing mplayer |
| 05:47.15 | KaylaKaze | the problem with Canola is it doesn't allow access to all your files |
| 05:47.24 | Xenon3DN | Ok, after the canola-conf restart, I see the "Use MPlayer as canola default media player" checkbox and I have set it. |
| 05:47.50 | k-s | Xenon3DN: ok, so start a new canola |
| 05:48.02 | Xenon3DN | ... |
| 05:48.13 | Xenon3DN | ok |
| 05:48.24 | Xenon3DN | Now what? |
| 05:48.40 | Dr_Nunim | How's canola player in comparison? |
| 05:48.56 | KaylaKaze | comparison to mplayer? |
| 05:49.02 | Dr_Nunim | Yeah. |
| 05:49.26 | KaylaKaze | I don't know if you really can compare :-) I've never used Canola with local media, just UPnP so I can't say |
| 05:49.41 | KaylaKaze | but controlling mplayer sucks |
| 05:49.46 | Dr_Nunim | mplayer seems to have decent video support. |
| 05:49.59 | Xenon3DN | k-s: I have Canola running -- so how do I get it to play files? |
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| 05:50.18 | KaylaKaze | Xenon3DN: That's the problem I was talking about |
| 05:50.35 | k-s | Xenon3DN: well... it should show your files, either under "Local" or shared... |
| 05:51.00 | Xenon3DN | looking... |
| 05:52.07 | KaylaKaze | but I can send an mplayer command from my ssh on my pc and the 770 will just sit here playing away while I do outher stuff. That's kinda nice |
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| 05:53.51 | KaylaKaze | Fuppes is apparently broken for me... it crashed again and after restart is showing no files |
| 05:56.20 | Xenon3DN | k-s: Not sure what "Local" you're referring to. I don't know where to tell it to look for my files. |
| 05:56.59 | Dr_Nunim | Mmc? |
| 05:57.04 | k-s | Xenon3DN: canola have 3 main categories (big icons): Audio, Video, Picture |
| 05:57.11 | Dr_Nunim | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.12 | Xenon3DN | Right. I'm on "Audio" now. |
| 05:57.28 | k-s | Xenon3DN: under each one, you have where media is, like Local, Shared, ... |
| 05:57.42 | k-s | if data is on your MMC, then it will be on "local" |
| 05:58.03 | k-s | if it's on UPnP or DAAP, it will be under "Shared" |
| 05:58.14 | KaylaKaze | but if it's on a mounted share, it won't show at all |
| 05:58.15 | Xenon3DN | I have "Audio Library", Shared Audio, "Podcast" and "IRadio Stations". My media is on a mounted share. Not sure how to tell it how to look there. |
| 05:58.24 | k-s | (however daap just work with regular player, mplayer for 770 doesn't support it) |
| 05:58.57 | k-s | Xenon3DN: you just have to add your mount point to be scanned, then it will show as "Local" |
| 05:59.08 | Xenon3DN | Ok. Do I do that from the "Config" tool? |
| 05:59.11 | k-s | just use "Configure Canola" tool |
| 05:59.18 | Xenon3DN | ok. looking... |
| 05:59.23 | k-s | yes, from Media Library |
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| 05:59.45 | k-s | just navigate on left, click the green right arrow |
| 05:59.46 | Xenon3DN | Thanks for your patience. Getting closer... |
| 06:03.09 | k-s | Xenon3DN: worked? |
| 06:03.18 | Xenon3DN | still navigating... |
| 06:04.00 | Xenon3DN | Not sure where smbbrowser mounted my share, actually... |
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| 06:04.53 | KaylaKaze | it'd be mounted under MyDocs |
| 06:05.17 | Xenon3DN | KaylaKaze: Thx. |
| 06:05.40 | Xenon3DN | WHat's the full filesystem path to that? I'm a n00b. |
| 06:08.11 | KaylaKaze | I'm having trouble typing it :-) |
| 06:08.19 | KaylaKaze | jhasdfjk /home/user/MyDocs |
| 06:08.34 | KaylaKaze | (had to put some dummy chars in front of /) |
| 06:09.03 | Xenon3DN | THx. Silly IRC and its /commands. |
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| 06:11.43 | Xenon3DN | STILL trying to get this set up. Bear with me. |
| 06:13.21 | KaylaKaze | they need to add address lookup options to maemo mapper |
| 06:14.02 | KaylaKaze | though I suppose you can do that in the browser and copy the long/lat |
| 06:15.16 | Xenon3DN | How do I determine my DHCP IP address? |
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| 06:16.26 | Xenon3DN | FOund it. |
| 06:16.43 | Xenon3DN | Connection manager, menus. |
| 06:17.12 | KaylaKaze | connection manager? |
| 06:17.29 | k-s | guys, time to sleep |
| 06:17.34 | KaylaKaze | oh, the IP |
| 06:17.36 | Xenon3DN | Under Tools from the main menus. |
| 06:17.48 | Xenon3DN | Thanks for your help, k-s. I'll get this working yet. |
| 06:17.48 | KaylaKaze | I thought you were still looking for canola config |
| 06:18.08 | Xenon3DN | I am, sorta. I'm trying to use another browser to access it, since it's really slow on the builtin browser. |
| 06:18.19 | KaylaKaze | I just set my router to give it a static IP of 77 |
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| 06:25.00 | Xenon3DN | Crap. My browser won't run now, just exits on startup. |
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| 07:12.48 | Enok | I compile program on pc using scratchbox with armel sdk rootstrap and qemu, but when I move the compiled program file to N800 and try to run it I get "Permission denied" |
| 07:13.29 | Enok | It has +x permissions and tried both as user and as super user |
| 07:13.54 | Enok | Any suggestions what might be the problem |
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| 07:14.42 | inz | Enok, you're trying to run in from mmc, which is mounted noexec |
| 07:15.04 | Enok | Ok thanks |
| 07:26.04 | komarov | where in the scratchbox is the file with dns settings? |
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| 07:27.10 | dpb_ | the same place as every other linux.. /etc/resolv.conf |
| 07:27.22 | komarov | tx |
| 07:28.15 | melmoth | actually, there is another place :) |
| 07:28.43 | melmoth | in the _host_ machine, /scratchbox/etc/resolve.conf |
| 07:28.57 | melmoth | and /scratchbox/etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 07:29.17 | komarov | yeah, I've just copied the DNS IPs from there to here |
| 07:29.20 | melmoth | a usual problem is /scratchbox/etc/nsswitch.conf uses mdsn for host name resolving |
| 07:30.17 | komarov | I can't make it resolve repository.maemo.org when execing 'apt-get update' |
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| 07:31.33 | melmoth | be sure /scratchbox/etc/nsswitch.conf in the hosts machine, not scratchbox, mention dns and not mdns |
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| 07:33.11 | komarov | I have everywhere: |
| 07:33.17 | komarov | hosts: files dns |
| 07:34.12 | komarov | I successfully ping it from the host, but ping doesn't exist inside scratchbox |
| 07:34.17 | komarov | maybe I should reboot? |
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| 07:42.10 | komarov | didn't help |
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| 07:53.23 | melmoth | koen, double check that stfuff in scratchbox (/etc/resolv.conf and /etc/nsswitch.conf) are the same as : in the hosting machine /etc/resolv.conf , and /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf |
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| 08:05.18 | cy- | no firmware update yet eh |
| 08:05.19 | cy- | suck |
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| 08:08.01 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 08:09.25 | cy- | sup Jaffa |
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| 08:25.26 | florian | good morning |
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| 08:36.37 | sbaturzio | Aloha! |
| 08:42.08 | komarov | Hawaii! |
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| 08:48.08 | X-Fade | http://maemo.org/news/view/1183357408.html |
| 08:48.13 | X-Fade | Looks interesting.. |
| 08:53.48 | Jaffa | Indeed. |
| 08:54.03 | cy- | I just want new firmware :( |
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| 09:08.57 | lardman | morning |
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| 09:10.31 | pello | bonjour |
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| 09:13.12 | lardman | Does anyone know why the ARM asm in the kernel appears to be written in Intel syntax rather than the (supposed) default AT&T syntax? |
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| 09:17.03 | pello | what's the difference with bora and mistral ? |
| 09:17.16 | pello | is that like stable and testing under debian ? |
| 09:17.58 | cy- | pello: I believe bora and mistral are release revisions of maemo |
| 09:18.23 | pello | all my packages previsouly installed are bora |
| 09:18.33 | pello | can i install a package from a mistral repo ? |
| 09:18.44 | cy- | On the n800 you should be able to |
| 09:18.52 | pello | (i have my n800 from this morning sorry for dumb questions) |
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| 09:24.12 | pello | salut obergix[work] |
| 09:24.14 | pello | cy- thx |
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| 09:30.51 | pupnik_ | People who install mistral onto N800 serve up to 5 years in prison. |
| 09:31.13 | pello | dumb ass |
| 09:31.31 | cy- | wtf? heh |
| 09:31.40 | pupnik_ | I am using that as an example for how advertising misleads us with the phrase "up to" |
| 09:31.50 | pupnik_ | People who install mistral onto N800 serve 0 - 5 years in prison. |
| 09:32.20 | pupnik_ | up to really means "less than" |
| 09:32.48 | pupnik_ | or "less than or equal-to" |
| 09:33.27 | pupnik_ | Anyway... the n800 uses 'Bora' |
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| 09:34.15 | pello | pupnik_, what the deal with bora and mistral ? |
| 09:34.39 | pupnik_ | mistral is the latest official release for the 770, unless I am out-of-date |
| 09:35.36 | pupnik_ | there is an unofficial IT2007 "Hacker Edition" for the 770 that is based on Bora |
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| 09:40.51 | AD-N770 | good morning |
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| 09:57.38 | sureshkumar435 | hi all, can anyone help me in creating folders using tinymail |
| 10:00.04 | pupnik_ | dunno |
| 10:00.14 | pupnik_ | how can i type onto a pdf? openoffice? |
| 10:01.24 | pupnik_ | www.pdftypewriter.com Open, edit, type on, save, fill in forms & print PDF files for $49 |
| 10:09.23 | pupnik_ | ah pdfedit can do it |
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| 10:25.51 | guardian | my touchscreen is completely scrachted on the handwriting recognition area |
| 10:25.55 | guardian | do you also experience this ? |
| 10:26.26 | X-Fade | guardian: Is the protective film still on your screen? |
| 10:26.27 | MoRpHeUz | guardian: does it still have that "default screen protection" ? |
| 10:26.31 | MoRpHeUz | X-Fade: =) |
| 10:26.43 | X-Fade | hehe |
| 10:26.53 | guardian | or there is a protective film ? :D |
| 10:27.19 | guardian | ah now that you say it indeed |
| 10:27.23 | guardian | but it's very close to the edges |
| 10:27.24 | guardian | did not notice it |
| 10:27.26 | MoRpHeUz | guardian: if you take a close look you'll se that...mainly on the vorders |
| 10:27.26 | guardian | should i remove it ? |
| 10:27.30 | MoRpHeUz | borders |
| 10:27.51 | X-Fade | guardian: That is up to you ;) |
| 10:28.11 | guardian | was there such a film on the 770 ? |
| 10:28.14 | X-Fade | The real touchscreen is harder to scratch than this film.. |
| 10:28.14 | guardian | i don't have mine here |
| 10:28.30 | X-Fade | guardian: Yes, but is wasn't that good.. |
| 10:28.33 | guardian | ok |
| 10:28.41 | X-Fade | So you probably removed it first thing.. |
| 10:29.49 | MoRpHeUz | X-Fade: btw, how do you get this film off ? I mean...it's hard to find a way of doing that without damaging the screen =/ |
| 10:30.14 | X-Fade | MoRpHeUz: Grow long nails ;) |
| 10:30.34 | MoRpHeUz | hehehe =D |
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| 10:50.28 | unique311 | removing osx86 from my one of my notebooks, and installing linux......going with ubuntu, unless anyone has another alternative they can recommend |
| 10:50.54 | osfameron | ubuntu works for me |
| 10:52.39 | unique311 | same here... |
| 10:52.53 | cy- | ditto |
| 10:53.41 | unique311 | ever tried anything besides ubuntu.. |
| 10:54.08 | unique311 | gentoo is amazing, but the compile time sucks.. |
| 10:55.32 | MoRpHeUz | unique311: kubuntu =) the same way but with kde =) |
| 10:56.41 | unique311 | not a big fan of kde |
| 10:58.21 | unique311 | ok, so ubuntu it is...thNKS |
| 11:03.52 | osfameron | gentoo sounds nice. So does suse. And Debian. On the other hand, I hates computers, and the less time I have to spend wrangling with them the better :-) |
| 11:04.21 | unique311 | hate computers/// |
| 11:04.37 | unique311 | exact opposite |
| 11:04.41 | gla55_ | I have a bro who uses gentoo... but.. he switched to it from slackware |
| 11:04.42 | unique311 | love em |
| 11:05.07 | osfameron | oh, I couldn't live without a computer, and many things about them give me lots of pleasure |
| 11:05.18 | osfameron | but installing different distros and messign about with them isn't one of them... :-) |
| 11:10.45 | unique311 | i just played a SDL game called neverball |
| 11:10.55 | unique311 | by moving around my thinkpad |
| 11:11.15 | gla55_ | neverball is fun |
| 11:11.38 | unique311 | think thinkpad has a motion sensor feature. |
| 11:11.43 | gla55_ | yeah |
| 11:11.44 | gla55_ | it does |
| 11:11.56 | unique311 | it was fun.. |
| 11:11.56 | gla55_ | macbooks too iirc.. |
| 11:12.23 | unique311 | but it gets heavy after a couple of minutes moving the danm thing around. |
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| 11:50.02 | komarov | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.06 | komarov | oops, sorry |
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| 12:04.54 | ericz | anyone here use the 'knock' port for the 770? |
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| 12:15.16 | jani | has anyone had any problems with textfields not accepting any input ? |
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| 12:16.45 | suihkulokki | jani: I guess the virtual keyboard process has died.. |
| 12:17.52 | jani | doesnt look like that. i can switch to next input field and input works there just fine, switch back to previous and nothing but backspace |
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| 12:22.26 | jani | its only one field thats causing the problem and seemingly both text fields are generated by same type of code .. |
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| 12:34.58 | ericz | :( Unable to install. Package is incompatible with current software! all i want is telnet, how hard of a port is that to run, it's like 3 the most basic app ever |
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| 12:44.15 | ericz | anybody know of a *working* port of sendip/telnet for os 2006 on the 770? |
| 12:44.15 | jani | dunno, but there was just announcement in maemo devel list that netcat is ported to maemo platform, you could use that as telnet. i dont remember if it was for 770 thou =( |
| 12:44.15 | ericz | that would work.. |
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| 12:45.04 | ericz | i just want to port knock, the "knock" client i found is like |
| 12:45.04 | ericz | customized for some 'doorman' daemon |
| 12:45.04 | jani | http://maemo.org/development/maemo_tools_index.html |
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| 12:45.13 | jani | announcement game like 1,5 hours ago =) |
| 12:47.15 | jani | emr.. came |
| 12:48.15 | ericz | Relase 3.X |
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| 12:48.22 | ericz | means os 2007, doesn't it? |
| 12:49.00 | zuh | Yeah |
| 12:51.20 | ericz | i can't believe i can't find a working telnet/sendip/netcat port for 2006 |
| 12:51.24 | ericz | i must be stupid. |
| 12:51.55 | guardian | can someone please recall me the command used to list the entry points of some library |
| 12:51.58 | mgedmin | or, more likely, it doesn't exist |
| 12:52.30 | ericz | why wouldn't it exist, telnte can't be one of the more difficult programs to port |
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| 12:56.52 | Toni | request for netcat I'd understand, but telnet.. |
| 12:57.33 | ericz | either |
| 12:57.42 | ericz | heh, telnet/sendip/netcat, something |
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| 12:58.18 | jani | btw, is telnet supposed to be compiled into busybox ? |
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| 13:00.32 | Synt1 | hi there |
| 13:01.02 | Synt1 | does somebody know where i can find the sourcecode to the programm `play-sound' wich is on the device (n800) |
| 13:01.49 | Synt1 | it's a bit strange: a few wave files are played every time i call `play-sound file.wav' |
| 13:02.02 | Synt1 | others are played one or two times |
| 13:02.15 | Synt1 | before it won't play them anymore |
| 13:03.54 | Synt1 | and why don't i hear anything when i `cat sound.wav > /dev/dsp' ??? |
| 13:04.43 | inz | because it doesn't use oss? |
| 13:05.17 | Synt1 | so, what to do? |
| 13:05.30 | Synt1 | why doesn't play-sound work all the time? |
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| 13:05.44 | Synt1 | (thanks inz for answering, already thought i'm a soliloquist) |
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| 13:08.01 | eugene | how can i capture screenshots on my n800? |
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| 13:10.55 | mgedmin | there's an app you can apt-get install, osso-screenshot-tool iirc |
| 13:10.57 | Synt1 | eugene: by pressing the print button *fg* |
| 13:10.57 | Synt1 | just kidding...: osso-screenshot-tool |
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| 13:11.52 | eugene | Synt1: hehehehe |
| 13:12.09 | eugene | Synt1: trying to find that app :) |
| 13:12.11 | inz | Or mh-shot-tool ;) |
| 13:12.28 | inz | mh-shot-tool can upload your screenshots to flickr! |
| 13:12.30 | eugene | mgedmin: inz: thanks! |
| 13:13.07 | mgedmin | yeah, osso-screenshot-tool is a cmdline app |
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| 13:13.32 | mgedmin | not very convenient unless you have some cpu applet that can launch it, or have a convenient laptop so you can ssh into your nokia |
| 13:13.46 | Synt1 | mgedmin: tip: try `apt-cache search keyword' |
| 13:13.58 | konttori | jani, ericz: what announcement? |
| 13:14.25 | inz | mgedmin, maybe he's the official tip-of-the-day'er |
| 13:14.29 | ericz | development of netcat or something |
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| 13:14.41 | mgedmin | can I exchange my tip to some other tip? |
| 13:14.49 | mgedmin | I'd like a green one, please... |
| 13:14.55 | Synt1 | mgedmin: `apt-cache search screenshot' returns the osso-screenshot-tool |
| 13:14.57 | inz | mgedmin, that would be like exchanging fortune cookies |
| 13:15.41 | eugene | ah the camera app is useful but not too good to take photos at night |
| 13:15.43 | Synt1 | mgedmin: oh... f*** |
| 13:15.46 | konttori | ericz: is that newsworthy? |
| 13:15.47 | Synt1 | sry |
| 13:15.56 | Synt1 | s/mgedmin/eugene/g |
| 13:16.08 | ericz | no, i was asking about netcat/telnet, he was telling me about some development release coming out |
| 13:16.15 | konttori | ahh... ok |
| 13:16.33 | Synt1 | so does somebody know about the play-sound problem?? |
| 13:16.46 | eugene | btw where are you guys based in? |
| 13:16.59 | guardian | i need help please, i'm trying to create a bar.so library that uses some code that is already in a static library foo.a . i'm using automake and i added foo.a to libbar_LIBADD clause. however when invoking objdump on libbar, it says libfoo.a: file format not recognized |
| 13:17.28 | guardian | so basically , is this possible to embed code that is already compiled in a .a into a .so shared library and how ? |
| 13:17.50 | eugene | ah, i'm trying to backport a kernel patch for 2.6.18 (assuming this is the latest kernel). is it possible to test the kernel with the simulator first, before the real thing? and if it failed to boot, can reflashing RX-34_2007SE_3.2007.10-7_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin help? |
| 13:18.47 | inz | eugene, scratchbox doesn't emulate the whole OS, so you cannot test kernel there |
| 13:19.05 | eugene | oh.. |
| 13:19.05 | inz | eugene, and yes, reflashing flashes the kernel too, so it should work |
| 13:19.08 | eugene | nod |
| 13:19.22 | Synt1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.35 | eugene | wierd. i installed the fm radio app, and i can't find it in the menu |
| 13:19.38 | zuh | eugene: You can run './flasher -k kernel -b' to boot the kernel without flashing it |
| 13:20.14 | Synt1 | how can i simply play a wav file from the command line when `cat sound.wav > /dev/dsp' doesnt work and `play-sound sound.wav' only works sometimes?? |
| 13:20.18 | Synt1 | help |
| 13:20.21 | eugene | zuh: so i can test it without risking it have any permanent effect? |
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| 13:21.38 | eugene | cool |
| 13:23.26 | zuh | Hmm, at least that's what I thought that dird |
| 13:23.28 | zuh | -r |
| 13:24.13 | eugene | nod |
| 13:24.48 | eugene | so much things to learn. so much things to play :) |
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| 13:28.01 | eugene | inz: ah, mh-shot-tool is written by u :) |
| 13:28.37 | inz | eugene, it is? I hadn't noticed... |
| 13:28.58 | eugene | oh i read wrongly :) |
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| 13:30.28 | ttuttle | Is fastmail.fm a trustworthy mail provider? |
| 13:31.21 | ericz | so is ncurses-base, and osso-xterm, and maemo-gaim, looks like inz is awesome :P |
| 13:32.02 | eugene | hehe. n800 is neat, especially with the fm player. |
| 13:33.02 | inz | ericz, mh-shot-tool is actually the only one of those I've written |
| 13:33.08 | jani | suihkulokki: multiple calls to hildon_gtk_entry_set_input_mode fucked up the input =( |
| 13:33.26 | inz | ericz, ncurses-base I've packaged and xterm/gaim I've modified a bit |
| 13:33.37 | eugene | inz: ah, yes it's you isn't it :) |
| 13:33.41 | ericz | ah |
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| 13:36.28 | eugene | zuh: i will try that and see how it goes. thanks. |
| 13:36.54 | eugene | btw where's nice themes i can browse? any good links? |
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| 13:39.19 | zuh | There's not that many themes around. http://www.maemo-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=2130 <- there's few, google finds probably few more and then there's my favourite on garage: https://garage.maemo.org/projects/theme-plankton/ |
| 13:39.47 | eugene | thanks! |
| 13:40.00 | zuh | Hmm, there's few others too on garage (search for 'theme') |
| 13:40.47 | eugene | ok |
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| 13:41.22 | jani | i was going true some theming sites over last week and i noticed that some of stock apps doesnt work well with themes |
| 13:42.43 | ericz | claws-mail interface is just hard to use, period with the virtual keyboard |
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| 13:45.00 | eugene | http://www.flickr.com/photos/eugeneteo/695614050/ |
| 13:45.02 | eugene | works great! |
| 13:45.26 | ericz | i'm using that same theme |
| 13:48.13 | eugene | theme-plankton == This project has not released any files. |
| 13:48.14 | eugene | hmmm |
| 13:48.38 | melmoth | hola eugene ! |
| 13:49.03 | eugene | melmoth: hey :) |
| 13:49.13 | Tu13es | heh |
| 13:49.14 | eugene | melmoth: you use n800 too? :P |
| 13:49.25 | Tu13es | gf is getting my n770, just ordered an n800 from amazon, should be here tomorrow :P |
| 13:49.32 | eugene | Tu13es: congrats :D |
| 13:49.44 | melmoth | eugene, yep :) |
| 13:49.55 | eugene | melmoth: hacking anything yet? :) |
| 13:50.25 | melmoth | a little bit (http://hurdygurdy.dyndns.org/maemosword/) |
| 13:50.41 | eugene | melmoth: wow |
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| 13:50.59 | melmoth | i also had a look at gstreamer and pygame , to play with sound (to make the sound of rain play in loop) |
| 13:51.07 | melmoth | but i sort of ...fail on this one :) |
| 13:51.09 | eugene | melmoth: cool |
| 13:51.30 | eugene | melmoth: you should join engineering :D |
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| 13:52.03 | melmoth | when they will be interested in python newbye i'll apply :) |
| 13:52.27 | eugene | melmoth: if you are a python newbie, i am a python idiot :) |
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| 13:53.51 | stuaart | Hello there. I have the exact same problem as thus guy: http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/maemo/developers/19122 |
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| 13:54.23 | stuaart | Wondering if anyone knows the solution regarding wlancond-dbus.h and wlancond.h |
| 13:54.27 | eugene | melmoth: hopefully i can finish backporting it, and then we can have more fun :) |
| 13:54.35 | eugene | melmoth: should be easy. |
| 13:55.13 | stuaart | (Basically the problem is missing header files for wlan stuff.) |
| 13:56.19 | melmoth | eugene, what are you currently backporting ? |
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| 13:56.42 | melmoth | is it systemtap for maemo ? :) |
| 13:57.11 | eugene | hehe |
| 13:57.30 | ttuttle | What's systemtap? |
| 13:57.42 | eugene | ttuttle: it's an instrumentation tool for profiling purposes |
| 13:57.55 | eugene | ttuttle: http://sources.redhat.com/systemtap/wiki/RedHatSummit2007 |
| 13:58.07 | melmoth | system tap is to a kernel what a biopsy is to medecine . |
| 13:58.59 | eugene | heh i can't change password for user |
| 13:59.41 | melmoth | Hmmm. always worked here. |
| 13:59.43 | eugene | ah i can change it as a root user |
| 13:59.52 | eugene | but not popssible if i change it as a user user |
| 14:07.09 | eugene | gee. memory consumption is pretty high. |
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| 14:35.42 | eugene | inz: do you have 256colors2.pl script handy? |
| 14:35.52 | KaylaKaze | :-( supermediastore is having a flash memory sale but they don't have any MMC :-( |
| 14:43.32 | lardman | Anyone know about signals? |
| 14:45.35 | lardman | specifically about signal handlers, and what happens when the signal handler returns |
| 14:47.29 | lardman | even more specifically, in this article (http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3985), it says that after the handler returns control to the offending thread, some code is popped from the local stack to alter the kernel stack frame |
| 14:48.05 | lardman | the question is, why does it need to alter the kernel stack frame, and could this locally popped code be changed to do something else... |
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| 14:54.12 | jga23 | hey, my n800 is caught in an infinite loop, I read that I should turn off the lifeguard reset...any body know how? |
| 14:54.29 | lardman | you need to use the flasher tool |
| 14:54.50 | jga23 | do they have one for windows? or just linux? |
| 14:54.59 | lardman | just linux afaik |
| 14:56.57 | jga23 | do you know if it'll work over vmware? |
| 14:58.04 | gla55_ | i'd be skeptical about that. but dunno really if it has some funky usb bridge |
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| 14:58.33 | lardman | what about that freeware flasher, does that work under Windows and does it do the control messages? |
| 14:59.30 | jga23 | where can I find the windows flasher? |
| 14:59.41 | zuh | jga23: You could always get a linux live CD, boot that, download the flasher and work from there... |
| 14:59.57 | lardman | anyone got a link to that free flasher project? |
| 15:00.05 | jga23 | k, I have ubuntu on a vm, I'll try that first, then the live cd |
| 15:01.33 | lardman | jga23: There's a mailing list post about using vmware & flasher |
| 15:03.20 | lardman | > Good for once don’t be too late home! (not that exciting though!) |
| 15:03.20 | lardman | fyi http://www.nopcode.org/0xFFFF/ |
| 15:04.30 | jga23 | thanks |
| 15:04.52 | eugene | damn |
| 15:04.58 | eugene | my n800 seems to froze |
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| 15:05.06 | lardman | not of much use to you, but there is source so it may be possible to port it to Windows |
| 15:06.27 | eugene | how do u take the battery out? can't seem to be able to take it out ... gee |
| 15:07.10 | lardman | flick it |
| 15:07.16 | eugene | ?? |
| 15:07.16 | lardman | or rather your wrist |
| 15:08.30 | gomiam | eugene, it should be easy, you pick at the right end and draw |
| 15:08.40 | gomiam | you need a bit of a nail, of course :-) |
| 15:08.40 | eugene | gomiam: got it. |
| 15:08.45 | gomiam | nice |
| 15:08.54 | eugene | glad i haven't cut my nails :) |
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| 15:09.07 | eugene | but my mini-sd card is stucked |
| 15:09.15 | gomiam | ? |
| 15:09.15 | eugene | i can't take it out. i wish it has springs |
| 15:09.20 | gomiam | checking mine... |
| 15:09.40 | gomiam | is the slider stuck too? |
| 15:09.52 | eugene | nope. |
| 15:10.09 | eugene | i am able to see my mini-sd+adpater |
| 15:10.21 | eugene | just can't take it out. more like a design issue :/ |
| 15:10.34 | gomiam | mmm... my SD just pops up when the slider is all the way back |
| 15:10.49 | eugene | all the way back? hmm |
| 15:10.53 | gomiam | try and push it down a couple of times |
| 15:11.11 | gomiam | you are talking about the inside SD slot, right? |
| 15:11.27 | eugene | nope |
| 15:11.33 | eugene | the outside one |
| 15:11.34 | gomiam | ah, the outer one then :-) |
| 15:11.40 | gomiam | that one has no springs |
| 15:11.49 | gomiam | you need to draw it out |
| 15:11.51 | eugene | inside one has? |
| 15:11.58 | gomiam | looks like it |
| 15:12.02 | eugene | damn |
| 15:12.07 | gomiam | the outer one requires even more nail :-) |
| 15:12.14 | eugene | yeah ;( |
| 15:12.18 | eugene | challenge |
| 15:12.39 | gomiam | actually, the SD card has an engraving for you to "nail it out" ;-) |
| 15:12.55 | eugene | somehow it's not there! |
| 15:13.01 | gomiam | ouch |
| 15:13.04 | eugene | or maybe the one i bought didn't have that... |
| 15:13.10 | gomiam | it might be that |
| 15:13.29 | gomiam | well, try with a cutter or a screwdriver |
| 15:13.35 | eugene | boohoo.. |
| 15:13.37 | gomiam | it's quite sturdy so it shouldn't suffer much |
| 15:13.54 | KaylaKaze | needle nose pliers |
| 15:14.09 | eugene | nod nod |
| 15:14.11 | gomiam | KaylaKaze: after cleaning them first, of course ;-D |
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| 15:14.24 | eugene | lol |
| 15:14.28 | KaylaKaze | ... what do you do with you pliers? |
| 15:14.35 | gomiam | ply? |
| 15:14.54 | KaylaKaze | I mean that you'd need to clean them |
| 15:15.04 | gomiam | mm... nose... |
| 15:15.13 | gomiam | something might get stuck |
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| 15:15.30 | eugene | it didnt ask for regional settings and assumed that i'm a british heh |
| 15:15.31 | KaylaKaze | oh, I get it :-P |
| 15:15.43 | KaylaKaze | it's GB by default |
| 15:15.47 | gomiam | it didn't ask? |
| 15:15.52 | gomiam | that's surprising |
| 15:15.52 | eugene | nope |
| 15:16.07 | KaylaKaze | though it should have asked on initial startup |
| 15:16.09 | eugene | nod nod |
| 15:16.12 | gomiam | it asked me when I first started it up (and when I re-flashed it) |
| 15:16.14 | eugene | it didnt |
| 15:16.21 | eugene | i'm going thru it noe |
| 15:16.23 | eugene | i'm going thru it now |
| 15:16.32 | eugene | just reflashed |
| 15:17.00 | chrissturm | so when is the firmware update going to be released? |
| 15:17.22 | gomiam | chrissturm: no idea, but blogs seem to be panting for it to come out :-D |
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| 15:32.18 | eugene | good night! |
| 15:33.06 | unique311 | good morning |
| 15:39.06 | stuaart | Hey, has *anyone* managed to programmatically do wifi scanning with the n800? |
| 15:39.39 | stuaart | The wlan driver is locked up, as is the osso-connectivity UI side of things |
| 15:42.34 | lardman|afk | there's a garage project, what's that about? |
| 15:43.48 | lardman | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/cx3110x/ |
| 15:45.59 | stuaart | lardman: Thanks |
| 15:46.34 | suihkulokki | stuaart: iwlist scan ? |
| 15:47.04 | stuaart | Unfortunately iwlist does not reliably replicate what is visible in the UI |
| 15:47.40 | stuaart | I.e., when you use the UI wifi scanning, funny stuff happens behind-the-scenes which we can't seem to even detect as dbus signals |
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| 15:52.03 | wumpus | lardman: that only contains a bit of what is needed to build the driver |
| 15:54.06 | wumpus | I wanted to patch the driver for aircrack/injection to work, but to no avail, that garage project is kind of useless |
| 15:54.34 | stuaart | Basically we want to do wlan scanning within our own app. The maemo API just doesn't support this it seems. |
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| 16:00.40 | lardman | Ah, I see |
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| 16:30.05 | guardian_ | how can i install gconf-editor inside scratchbox ? |
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| 16:37.24 | jpt9 | hey. |
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| 16:50.28 | Dr_Nunim | sssssssscore! |
| 16:50.31 | Dr_Nunim | new memory card |
| 16:54.13 | pupnik_ | learn to program and port apps |
| 16:55.49 | KaylaKaze | this is odd. A lot of programs, when passed a parameter from the cmdline, don't open it like they're suppsed to. |
| 16:56.32 | KaylaKaze | And, btw, Opera is VERY good for looking at pages of a comic book. Now I jsut need to right a webpage script for browsing them better |
| 16:58.22 | Dr_Nunim | Wow it really did not like me trying to do apt-get update without an internet connection |
| 17:00.20 | KaylaKaze | one thing cool though is you can use opera as a file browser |
| 17:00.53 | KaylaKaze | if you open a directory like file://localhost |
| 17:01.03 | Xenon3DN | Kayla: Neat! |
| 17:02.51 | KaylaKaze | the only problem is it doesn't open fiels right. It sends file://localhost to the opening program so the opening program can't find the file... but if it's a file Opera can open (like a graphic) it will |
| 17:02.56 | Dr_Nunim | wow wtf |
| 17:03.04 | Dr_Nunim | why is my apt-get going in Bytes per second |
| 17:03.33 | Dr_Nunim | maemo.org is slowwwwwwww |
| 17:03.54 | KaylaKaze | and if you set Opera for "optimized view" mofe, it does GREAT with comic book pages |
| 17:04.11 | Dr_Nunim | or the cat sleeping on my wifi is affecting the speed greatly |
| 17:04.34 | Xenon3DN | Cats are a great faraday cage at 2.4-5GHz. |
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| 17:07.14 | Dr_Nunim | hrm |
| 17:07.17 | Dr_Nunim | unmount not found |
| 17:07.17 | KaylaKaze | is there a way to run a GUI program from the shell and have it immediately give you your prompt back? |
| 17:07.19 | Dr_Nunim | :o |
| 17:07.22 | KaylaKaze | it's umount |
| 17:07.25 | Dr_Nunim | ah |
| 17:07.28 | Dr_Nunim | lol |
| 17:07.31 | Dr_Nunim | I need my coffee |
| 17:07.41 | Xenon3DN | Kayla: <command> & |
| 17:09.58 | KaylaKaze | Opera displaying a comic book page in fullscreen optimized view mode http://kaylakaze.sytes.net/screenshot00.jpg |
| 17:12.53 | ericz | what'd you use to take the screenshot |
| 17:13.57 | KaylaKaze | grrr! Why won't opera open a file from cmndline! grrr |
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| 17:15.11 | KaylaKaze | loadapplet |
| 17:16.13 | Dr_Nunim | Geeze, booting of mmc takes a while to setup. |
| 17:24.10 | KaylaKaze | grrr... I can't get php to extract a file from a rar directly to the stdout |
| 17:25.45 | KaylaKaze | ... or maybe the problem is it's not extracting the file at all. Weird |
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| 17:32.34 | sandeen | hey, is there any concensus on the best graphical email client for a 770? :) |
| 17:33.23 | suihkulokki | gmail |
| 17:34.13 | pupnik_ | voting on a mail client for nokia is like voting for president of the USA |
| 17:34.21 | KaylaKaze | ... this thing is saying the extract is successful, but I can't find the file. WTF!? |
| 17:35.13 | sandeen | ok, that's about what I expected ;-) |
| 17:35.32 | Xenon3DN | Ok, how do I copy & paste within an edit field? I can't seem to get the menu key to open a menu for copy/paste operations. |
| 17:35.32 | bilboed | pupnik_, recount included ? |
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| 17:36.13 | melmoth | Xenon3DN, keeping the stylus pressed a couple of second should open a contextual menu |
| 17:36.23 | melmoth | if your lucky, there s a 'copy' item |
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| 17:43.00 | pupnik_ | oki am recount what happy not is it tyrranny time? |
| 17:43.23 | pupnik_ | going for friendly exclusion as never finding! |
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| 17:47.28 | KaylaKaze | holy crap! I jsut realized that DND sheet thing I made is, with only a few slight modifications, a full online spreadsheet system! |
| 17:47.38 | pupnik_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.42 | pupnik_ | ... |
| 17:47.44 | pupnik_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:47.45 | KaylaKaze | among other things |
| 17:47.47 | pupnik_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:58.51 | pupnik_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAPEd_Vyvlw |
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| 18:07.53 | Dr_Nunim | with dropbear whats the root pw? |
| 18:07.54 | Dr_Nunim | rootme? |
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| 18:08.48 | ericz | yeah, should be |
| 18:09.35 | Dr_Nunim | Sure is taking awhile to install. |
| 18:11.47 | Dr_Nunim | ahhh |
| 18:11.51 | Dr_Nunim | SSH makes this so much easier. |
| 18:12.13 | ericz | easier to get root, and to type! |
| 18:12.43 | Dr_Nunim | ? |
| 18:12.54 | Dr_Nunim | lies! |
| 18:12.55 | suihkulokki | ps. remember to change the root pw if you install ssh |
| 18:12.56 | Dr_Nunim | takes forever |
| 18:13.00 | Dr_Nunim | I know. |
| 18:13.04 | Dr_Nunim | rootme isn't exactly safe :) |
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| 18:15.07 | Dr_Nunim | although I'm really not that woried about it |
| 18:15.10 | Dr_Nunim | Whos going to hack it? |
| 18:15.25 | Dr_Nunim | The cat whos blocking my wifi? I'd like to see her try! |
| 18:15.32 | ericz | really.. besides, predictive text remembers it for you.. |
| 18:16.43 | trevarthan | I'm writing a ukmp workalike (uses python, pygame, mplayer, a2dpd, and gobject, among other things). It works, but after a certain (unpredictable) amount of time the application completely locks up. I can still switch tasks, but if I try to run `ps` my shell hangs (no CTRL+c, CTRL+z will fix it). At that point I pretty much have to reboot because I can no longer do process management. Anyone have any idea what might be causing that? |
| 18:17.14 | konttori | trevarthan: what kind of stuff are you working on then? |
| 18:17.30 | konttori | Last time we talked you were converting ukmp to use mplayer |
| 18:17.45 | konttori | And you managed to get it working at some point as well |
| 18:17.55 | konttori | So, did you start a new project after that from scratch? |
| 18:18.25 | trevarthan | Yeah, that's basically what it is, but it's a complete rewrite from scratch. The only thing I kept was the spirit of the thing and the theme, and the theme will be changing a bit in the near future. |
| 18:18.53 | trevarthan | It works perfectly right until the point it locks up. :) |
| 18:19.18 | trevarthan | I can switch on the fly between A2DP and speakers with the press of a button. It's pretty cool. |
| 18:19.52 | konttori | great stuff! congrats! |
| 18:20.08 | trevarthan | If anyone wants to play with it then I'll be happy to make a pre-alpha tar.gz available. It's all GPL of course. |
| 18:20.12 | Dr_Nunim | hrm |
| 18:20.24 | Dr_Nunim | before I did this file system clone it would have been a good idea to do a fresh flash. |
| 18:22.33 | trevarthan | One thing you might like, konttori, is I made an album image cache. I noticed that most of my startup time was spent loading and convert()'ing images, so I build a large image when I scan the ID3 tags and then I use that image from then on until the next scan. |
| 18:22.38 | konttori | trevarthan: a screenshot would be nice! |
| 18:22.54 | konttori | I've been considering that as well |
| 18:23.01 | konttori | how much did it speedup? |
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| 18:23.21 | trevarthan | It works quite well. Brought my startup down from about 13 seconds to maybe 5? |
| 18:23.38 | konttori | cool |
| 18:23.46 | konttori | I expected as much |
| 18:23.48 | trevarthan | I've got a large MP3 library, so I sort of had to do it to ease development. |
| 18:28.42 | trevarthan | How about a tar.gz? http://www.guardiani.us/ukmp-dev-20070702.tar.gz |
| 18:29.08 | trevarthan | unpack it, `cd ukmp.dist; ./ukmp-scanner.py; ./ukmp.py` |
| 18:29.33 | sandeen | how about this; is there any decent SIP client for a 770? (that's not tied to gizmo or gtalk or ....) |
| 18:30.01 | trevarthan | sandeen: have you tried shtoom? It's a python sip phone. might work. I've been meaning to give it a try myself. |
| 18:30.19 | sandeen | trevarthan, haven't tried it, never heard of it ;-) I'll see what I can find, thanks |
| 18:30.51 | trevarthan | sandeen: rule of thumb for the maemo platform: If it doesn't exist in the garage, look for a python solution. :) |
| 18:31.08 | sandeen | hehe ok :) |
| 18:31.30 | sandeen | i was disappointed to see that none of the commonly-available VoIP clients were "generic" sip clients :( |
| 18:31.56 | trevarthan | I think that is because most C/C++ SIP libraries are a pain in the rear to compile. |
| 18:32.19 | trevarthan | Ask me how I know? :) |
| 18:32.23 | sandeen | well i've had my 770 for < 24 hrs so have a ways to go to find my way through all this stuff :) |
| 18:32.34 | sandeen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.34 | sandeen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.34 | sandeen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:32.35 | sandeen | hehe |
| 18:32.40 | sandeen | hmmm |
| 18:32.57 | Dr_Nunim | erm fuck |
| 18:33.01 | trevarthan | install svn on your 770 and check it out from svn. |
| 18:33.10 | Dr_Nunim | how do I get it to go to usb mode when i've installed a new boot menu |
| 18:33.17 | Dr_Nunim | it goes usb for like 2 seconds then tries to boot |
| 18:34.14 | Dr_Nunim | ahh the charger |
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| 18:38.38 | konttori | trevarthan: I'll try to test it soon |
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| 18:39.48 | guardian | evening #maemo |
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| 18:41.05 | trevarthan | konttori: It's lacking the album view. It's using a list view instead right now. I intend to allow the user to switch between the two in the near future. It also requires the user to move the selection between two horizontal bars right now. I intend to make that a tap in the near future instead of a required drag. |
| 18:41.29 | konttori | all right. sounds interesting! |
| 18:41.39 | trevarthan | Lots of spit and polish missing too. I'm still catching up to your feature set. :) |
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| 19:00.28 | konttori | trevarthan: I was unable to open the ukmp.dist package. |
| 19:00.56 | konttori | ahh.. now it worked |
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| 19:01.45 | konttori | SyntaxError: invalid syntax |
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| 19:03.27 | KaylaKaze | I was sitting here, unable to figure out why this page wouldn't work on Opera... |
| 19:03.46 | KaylaKaze | then, I happened to hit settings, and turns out Opera had turned my JS off again |
| 19:05.45 | KaylaKaze | but check this out at an early version of my cb reader http://kaylakaze.sytes.net/databases/test.php?rname=The%20Dress.cbr&entry=0 |
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| 19:07.32 | Dr_Nunim | its a png so wat? |
| 19:07.59 | KaylaKaze | no |
| 19:08.40 | KaylaKaze | it extracts the file from the cbr and displays it to the web browser (and it has Next and Prev links to make navigating a CB easier) |
| 19:09.48 | KaylaKaze | and when it's done, it'll know how many pages are in a CB, have links to the next and prev volumes and have a book selector |
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| 19:10.05 | Dr_Nunim | it extracts from pdf or what? |
| 19:10.13 | KaylaKaze | cbr and cbz |
| 19:10.20 | KaylaKaze | well, I haven't done the cbz support yet |
| 19:10.23 | Dr_Nunim | that's comic book format? |
| 19:10.26 | KaylaKaze | yeah |
| 19:10.36 | KaylaKaze | comic book rar and comic book zip |
| 19:10.47 | KaylaKaze | basically just ar and zip files renamed to open with the right program |
| 19:10.56 | KaylaKaze | rar* |
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| 19:13.06 | KaylaKaze | it appears that width=200% in an img tag doesn't do what you'd like it to (assuming you used that tag) so I'll have to do some extra jiggering for 2 page files |
| 19:17.35 | konttori | I wonder if you could convert that to python. The conversion shouldn't be too big one.php and python are quite alike |
| 19:17.47 | konttori | and pygame should be able to render those images really smoothly. |
| 19:23.27 | Xenon3DN | Can I make the file manager do a copy as a result of a drag operation, instead of doing a "move"? |
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| 19:25.43 | trevarthan | konttori: you need python 2.5 or greater. Forgot to mention that. |
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| 19:41.17 | KaylaKaze | well, I found that opera does a great job with the images so why bother dealing with writing your own displayer? Installing nginx and php on the 770 is a snap |
| 19:41.36 | KaylaKaze | though I don't know if the 770 php can do the unrar |
| 19:41.48 | KaylaKaze | and it'd probably take forever to do it |
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| 19:42.26 | KaylaKaze | but I have a Apache on my desktop and all my comicbook files are there so I can just access them that way without taking up space on my 770 to store the cbr files |
| 19:43.15 | KaylaKaze | I'm also gonna see if I can add PDF functionality. That'd be nice. To be able to extract a single page from a PDF as a graphic. But that wouldn't work on secured PDF files |
| 19:44.21 | Xenon3DN | I think ghostscript will rasterize a PDF for you. |
| 19:46.25 | KaylaKaze | well, there doesn't seem to be a php lib that does it... |
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| 19:54.49 | KaylaKaze | hmmm... apparently I could make an external call to ghostscript from PHP to get the image first... |
| 19:55.09 | Xenon3DN | Ghostscript is pretty big though. |
| 19:58.16 | ericz | im wondering if i can print.. have cupsys installed on a server, the server would have apache/php, somehow make a php script that takes uploaded files and sends them to cupsys ? can you print via php? |
| 19:58.29 | KaylaKaze | it's on my PC not the 770 |
| 19:58.50 | KaylaKaze | there's no way these scripts will run on a 770, the cpu just would die :-) |
| 19:59.12 | Xenon3DN | KaylaKaze: Yeah. Should work ok then. |
| 20:00.39 | KaylaKaze | Besides, the pdfs in question and the comic book files are pretty big themselves. It works much better to jsut connect to my home PC and stream them. That obviously won't allow it to work without net access though, but the evince and the default pdf viewer demonstrate that the 770 has difficulty with that stuff |
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| 20:10.24 | KaylaKaze | WHOA! I just found out that all this time 4NT has had line completion. I had gotten used to using tab when in my linux shell so I used it while in my windows shell and was shocked when it worked :-) |
| 20:10.59 | Xenon3DN | Yep. |
| 20:11.18 | Xenon3DN | I think you can configure the keycode that triggers it. |
| 20:11.41 | KaylaKaze | eeekk... I need to clean my windows path. Imagmagick can't fit |
| 20:12.18 | zuh | It works in the XP standard cmd too, though rather lamely by cycling all possible completions instead of showing them |
| 20:13.29 | Xenon3DN | Better than nothin'. |
| 20:14.18 | zuh | Said the flies sitting on a dungball |
| 20:14.29 | zuh | (million flies can't be wrong, right?-) |
| 20:16.05 | zuh | What I found wicked was when I accidentally scrolled the wheel on a (gnome-)terminal with 'less' open and it actually scrolled the text |
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| 20:23.44 | unique311 | konttori i just notice i have UK player dark and light installed, and cannot remove 1 or the other via AM |
| 20:24.05 | unique311 | reason why they are installed seperately |
| 20:24.25 | unique311 | 1 being in the extras folder and the other in a misc folder i created |
| 20:25.18 | KaylaKaze | :-( GS can't handle my PopSci files |
| 20:25.55 | unique311 | 209 users.... |
| 20:25.58 | unique311 | feck me |
| 20:31.47 | sxpert | http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/francestore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=6C04E07A&nplm=TM258 |
| 20:31.53 | sxpert | cheap HDD anyone ? |
| 20:33.53 | Pio | haha |
| 20:34.00 | Pio | odd |
| 20:39.02 | KaylaKaze | yay! I'll be able to do a lot of PDF files (though not all :-( ) |
| 20:39.44 | KaylaKaze | ,... somone made a typo on that HD |
| 20:39.56 | KaylaKaze | unless they mean it's an external enclosure that supports up to 1TB |
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| 20:40.53 | KaylaKaze | considering the price of the 500, I'm guessing someone dropped a 0 |
| 20:41.46 | sxpert | there. order filled and paid for |
| 20:42.16 | KaylaKaze | hehehe |
| 20:42.51 | KaylaKaze | I wonder if they'll ship to the US |
| 20:50.45 | KaylaKaze | what's the name of that IM client that isn't GAIM? |
| 20:50.56 | Xenon3DN | Pidgin is the new name for GAIM. |
| 20:53.44 | KaylaKaze | I thought it wasn't gaim |
| 20:54.11 | Xenon3DN | It is the same project, but AOL sued them over the name GAIM. |
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| 20:56.08 | KaylaKaze | oh ok. |
| 20:56.21 | KaylaKaze | so I should uninstall gaim and install pidgin |
| 20:57.44 | ericz | i was using gaim, but everytime i ran it, my menus would just flash and close when trying to navigate, so i switched to pidgin, having no problems |
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| 21:04.02 | Xenon3DN | GAIM worked for me, but Pidgin is newer/better, so I'd go with it. Gotta run. -X |
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| 21:05.51 | milhouse | Pidgin _is_ GAIM - the developers had to rename GAIM to Pidgin after legal action from AOL... |
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| 21:06.30 | ericz | so how does one execute the browser from xterm? |
| 21:06.39 | ericz | trying to make IDEA! work.. |
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| 21:40.19 | ericz | KaylaKaze, how were you browsing the filesystem in opera, again? file://localhost or something? |
| 21:41.53 | ericz | nvm, got it |
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| 21:53.58 | omnix | how do I configure it so mplayer opens up when I click on a link for a m3u file in opera? |
| 21:54.06 | omnix | instead of using the default audio player |
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| 22:09.51 | ericz | where's the home screen's search app store the past searches/history ? |
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| 22:21.16 | milhouse | ericz: run-standalone.sh /usr/bin/browser --url=www.google.com |
| 22:21.37 | ericz | thanks, i got that part :P how about the last question? |
| 22:21.38 | milhouse | put an & on the end to background the app |
| 22:21.54 | milhouse | sorry haven't been keeping up... what was your last q? |
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| 22:22.11 | milhouse | home screen search? |
| 22:22.43 | ericz | yeah |
| 22:22.57 | ericz | where's it store the past searches? |
| 22:23.02 | milhouse | don't know, sorry... have you searched the filesystem>? |
| 22:23.11 | ericz | sort of, but i don't know where to look |
| 22:26.22 | milhouse | you could do what i just did - search for something unusual, then grep the filesystem starting in /home/user... I searched for Centauri (Google) and searched using grep -i centauri `find . -print` |
| 22:26.31 | milhouse | my current directory at the time being /home/user |
| 22:26.35 | milhouse | and i was root |
| 22:26.49 | milhouse | ./.osso/mis/internet-search-applet.xml looks a likely candidate |
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| 22:45.18 | livingtm | Im attempting to use boost::asio::ip::tcp to connect to a host, but I am getting errors in scratchbox "Unsupported syscall: 250" when it attempts to connect |
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| 22:51.45 | rhys | how long does a n800 take to charge? |
| 22:51.56 | rhys | with it s power off? |
| 22:54.05 | milhouse | 4 hours or so |
| 22:54.15 | milhouse | maybe less |
| 22:59.13 | rhys | damnit |
| 22:59.31 | rhys | ty. |
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| 23:08.38 | milhouse | maemo planet screwed up for anyone else? |
| 23:09.00 | milhouse | looks like the formatting has gone haywire (in Firefox at least) during the first article... |
| 23:11.37 | milhouse | i think it's the post from Rodrigo Vivi ("n770 with a real usb keyboard") that is breaking Planet Maemo - he's got some two column layout thing going on |
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| 23:37.01 | NKUMike | I'm not sure if this is where I should ask for help but I have a nokia 770 and I have been installing applcations on it and they go in folders which are represented on that task launcher thing, does anyone know how to move these? |
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| 23:38.02 | milhouse | Tools -> Control Panel -> Navigation |
| 23:38.17 | milhouse | oh hang on... you said 770... ummm |
| 23:38.42 | milhouse | what i said may apply, it certainly does on an N800 but I can't remember about the 770 |
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| 23:42.26 | NKUMike | I dont think that works, I can customize the task launcher thing but none of the folders where these applications are installed show up, like I installed ssh and it went into some 'other' folder and these folders don't show up on the cutimization page, do I need to access the filesystem or something? |
| 23:42.41 | milhouse | Do you have a button marked "Organize"? |
| 23:42.55 | milhouse | It may not exist in OS 2006 in which case you're out of luck |
| 23:44.01 | NKUMike | yeah I have that and it comes up with like the same folders on both sides, none of the other folders are there |
| 23:44.24 | milhouse | ssh isn't normally run from the task bar |
| 23:44.30 | milhouse | or have an icon |
| 23:44.48 | milhouse | most gui-based apps go into Extras |
| 23:44.55 | milhouse | ssh is command line only |
| 23:45.02 | NKUMike | oh ok I guess that is why |
| 23:45.17 | NKUMike | because I know ssh works from the cl |
| 23:45.22 | NKUMike | oh well thanks anyways |
| 23:45.25 | milhouse | yeah, that's all you get :) |
| 23:45.30 | milhouse | np |
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| 23:48.01 | ericz_ | there's an organize thing on 2006 |
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