| 00:00.41 | ericm | woooah |
| 00:00.48 | ericm | audios nice right up until you start doing something |
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| 00:03.45 | yzf600 | hello all |
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| 00:04.02 | yzf600 | I just picked up a 770 from the woot deal Monday. |
| 00:04.18 | yzf600 | I'm pretty impressed |
| 00:04.33 | ericz | so did/am i :) |
| 00:04.37 | yzf600 | I'm intersted in an nx client port |
| 00:04.59 | yzf600 | I saw a few people talking about it in Feb, but no action since then |
| 00:05.12 | yzf600 | Does anyone know any more status on it? |
| 00:10.18 | sorbix | ugh i cant remember how to reorganize the app menu |
| 00:10.25 | sorbix | im going crazy trying to remember |
| 00:11.11 | Niacin | anyone get dun workin on the 770? |
| 00:13.57 | trevarthan | Why is the xmame version so old? |
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| 00:14.21 | trevarthan | xmame is up to like 0.106 or 0.107 now. Why do we only have 0.58? |
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| 00:34.21 | KaylaKaze | I just had to reboot :-( my web server was giving me 404's when trying to access web pages that were just working and ssh was saying "Server refused to allocate pty" |
| 00:35.10 | sorbix | why would someone run a webserver on the tablets |
| 00:36.34 | KaylaKaze | I'm running it so I can use html and php to run programs on the tablet without needing to connect to my server back home |
| 00:36.55 | sorbix | what kinds of programs? |
| 00:37.08 | KaylaKaze | I designed a dynamic character sheet for D&D that stores the data in a database |
| 00:37.18 | KaylaKaze | using AJAX |
| 00:37.26 | sorbix | ooh interesting |
| 00:38.00 | KaylaKaze | I'm trying to get everything all debugged for my game tomorrow so I can use my tablet as my character sheet with autocalculating and whatnot |
| 00:38.32 | sorbix | thats the geekiest thing ive ever heard, but so awesome |
| 00:38.46 | Dr_Nunim | Why not do it in say Excel? |
| 00:39.06 | KaylaKaze | the only problem is it's annoying to subtract hit point's 'cause the tablet's keyboard's minus key is on the symbols page |
| 00:39.22 | Dr_Nunim | Can't you change virtual keyboard map? |
| 00:39.36 | KaylaKaze | I don't know (about the VK map) I haven't tried |
| 00:40.00 | KaylaKaze | as for excel, I could but then it wouldn't run in a web browser. |
| 00:40.53 | Dr_Nunim | Oh I guess not seems to be hardware only. |
| 00:40.55 | Dr_Nunim | So? |
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| 00:41.04 | Dr_Nunim | Get gnumeric or whatever it's called. |
| 00:41.37 | KaylaKaze | Well, I'd considered that but it's not as nifty :-P |
| 00:41.44 | Dr_Nunim | True :) |
| 00:42.13 | KaylaKaze | I'm concerened about that pty error and about the nginx saying 404... that was weird. |
| 00:42.17 | sorbix | no wait i think you can change the layout |
| 00:42.22 | sorbix | i saw something about that somewhere |
| 00:42.48 | KaylaKaze | you can change the layout but it doesn't seem you can customize it |
| 00:43.13 | Dr_Nunim | 2007 has a slightly better layout. |
| 00:44.35 | KaylaKaze | okay. I've got my database transfered over to the 770. Now to moify the code to use sqlite instead of mysql |
| 00:44.53 | trevarthan | maemo has a limited number of ptys. you'll run out quickly. |
| 00:46.11 | KaylaKaze | how do you use them up so I can avoid it? I don't know what a pty is |
| 00:48.16 | KaylaKaze | ... I was running as root and got a "Permission denied"... |
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| 00:49.33 | KaylaKaze | is there a way to list a file's contents, like "type" in DOS? |
| 00:49.45 | ericz | ca? |
| 00:49.53 | ericz | cat* |
| 00:52.05 | Dr_Nunim | ls |
| 00:52.08 | Dr_Nunim | ? |
| 00:52.12 | Dr_Nunim | oh |
| 00:52.20 | KaylaKaze | yep |
| 00:52.24 | KaylaKaze | cat is it |
| 00:52.42 | ericz | ;) |
| 00:57.04 | Niacin | anyone ever done bluetooth dun with 770? |
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| 01:05.47 | KaylaKaze | dammit. It's not working |
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| 01:08.45 | ericz | is there a way to change the orange background on the 770 |
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| 01:19.34 | Niacin | is there issues with DUN on os 2007 hacker? |
| 01:20.08 | ajcool | hey i have a question about pidgin, i have all the repositories in but which actual files do i need under "instantmessaging" just to run AIM |
| 01:20.09 | ajcool | ? |
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| 01:21.22 | Niacin | can you downgrade os 2007 back to 2006? |
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| 01:22.16 | ajcool | what is file 'pidgin-l10n pidgin localized |
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| 01:24.14 | Dr_Nunim | Niacin: Yes |
| 01:24.27 | Dr_Nunim | Ajcool: Judging by the size I'd say support for all the messaging clients but I'm not sure. |
| 01:24.29 | Dr_Nunim | Install it and see? |
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| 01:27.33 | Niacin | Dr_Nunim just flash os2006? |
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| 01:28.11 | Dr_Nunim | Yup. |
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| 01:31.12 | jpt9 | Hey |
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| 01:31.32 | jpt9 | I just got an n770. |
| 01:31.40 | jpt9 | It rocks |
| 01:31.54 | Dr_Nunim | You and 7999 Other people :) |
| 01:31.59 | jpt9 | I'm using irc on it right now. |
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| 01:33.25 | KaylaKaze | okay... this isn't making any sense |
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| 01:33.52 | KaylaKaze | in one php script, the query runs fine. In the other, the exact same query doesn't |
| 01:34.04 | Dr_Nunim | whats the error? |
| 01:34.10 | jpt9 | This is so awesome |
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| 01:35.23 | KaylaKaze | it's not giving one. It's just returning as FALSE |
| 01:35.46 | KaylaKaze | it's supposed to fill the error variable passed to it when that happens but it's not 'cause that variable is coming out empty |
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| 01:37.59 | KaylaKaze | fuck! like 20 minutes trying to find the bug and it turns out it was a typo in my variable name |
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| 01:40.53 | ericz | at least you found it without punching holes in closet doors (personal experience) |
| 01:41.17 | Dr_Nunim | Any way to reorganize the contacts tab? |
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| 01:44.57 | ericz | 770 needs limewire |
| 01:45.08 | Dr_Nunim | No java. |
| 01:45.19 | KaylaKaze | this is weird... the page is loading fine and sending off the httpxml request fine... but then doesn't do anything |
| 01:45.25 | ericz | aw |
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| 01:46.32 | ericz | does frostwire use java too? |
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| 01:46.35 | Dr_Nunim | Yes. |
| 01:47.22 | ericz | there goes my dream of warpiratig ;p |
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| 01:47.38 | Dr_Nunim | Torrent & Usenet are still available. |
| 01:48.24 | ericz | i dont even have a 2gb card |
| 01:48.35 | KaylaKaze | oh duh! the xml handling script is in a separate js file |
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| 01:48.43 | KaylaKaze | and I forgot to copy it |
| 01:49.28 | Dr_Nunim | So anyone know if I can customize the contacts tab? |
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| 01:52.12 | KaylaKaze | works on my desktop... now for the tablet... |
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| 01:53.06 | KaylaKaze | GOAL!!! |
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| 01:53.21 | Dr_Nunim | And the crowd goes wild, it's a great shot! |
| 01:54.02 | KaylaKaze | no to convert the script for writing back to the DB |
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| 01:54.33 | Dr_Nunim | Why not just do it on the server and use real SQL? |
| 01:54.39 | Dr_Nunim | or no wifi where you're going to be playing? |
| 01:54.54 | KaylaKaze | I'm not sure of the wifi status where I'll be |
| 01:55.16 | KaylaKaze | I know there's a wireless router in the shop but I don't know if it's open |
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| 01:57.43 | Dr_Nunim | Jesus this blog has done double the traffic I did all last month in just 2 days. |
| 01:57.55 | ericz | why when i go to open menus, it like flashes white and closs? |
| 01:58.05 | Dr_Nunim | Try rebooting. |
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| 01:58.32 | ericz | i have, but it always eventually starts again |
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| 01:59.58 | ericz | rebooting every 10 minuts could get old |
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| 02:02.01 | KaylaKaze | Dr_Nunim: Well, it was 'cause of the Woot deal that manyh of us even found out these things existed |
| 02:02.35 | Niacin | damn it so no one has gotten dun working with a bluetooth phone? |
| 02:02.45 | Dr_Nunim | Plenty of people have :o |
| 02:03.03 | Niacin | ;\ |
| 02:03.04 | Dr_Nunim | I saw this thing on Wikipedia when I was wiking god knows what and was like, I must own that. |
| 02:03.19 | Dr_Nunim | but I couldn't spend quite that much, but once it was on Woot... |
| 02:03.22 | Dr_Nunim | mmm... bargin.. |
| 02:05.38 | KaylaKaze | yep, I wouldn't have spent over $150 |
| 02:05.54 | KaylaKaze | Whoa! brainstorm! |
| 02:06.03 | KaylaKaze | I can use VNC for reading! |
| 02:06.17 | KaylaKaze | that way I'm not killing the thing's memory loading a comic book |
| 02:06.29 | ericz | is claws mail any good? |
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| 02:08.12 | ericz | nice, i install new software but cant open menu to use it |
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| 02:09.28 | Wzrd2 | I'm new to Linux and the 770.. how do I install apps on the 770? |
| 02:09.38 | Wzrd2 | I'm trying to install the minimo browser |
| 02:11.09 | Wzrd2 | I also want to install flash 9 for the browser once I can get it installed |
| 02:11.17 | Dr_Nunim | Flash 9 = nopers |
| 02:11.20 | Dr_Nunim | Minimo = no probs |
| 02:11.31 | Wzrd2 | flash 9 doesn't work? |
| 02:11.44 | Dr_Nunim | Nope. |
| 02:11.47 | Dr_Nunim | No SDK for it even. |
| 02:11.59 | Wzrd2 | bummer cuz it says it's for firefox/mozilla on linux |
| 02:12.40 | Wzrd2 | oh.. duh I just realized it's for x86 |
| 02:13.16 | Wzrd2 | we cant upgrade flash on the opera browser either, right? |
| 02:13.55 | Dr_Nunim | Nope. |
| 02:14.03 | Wzrd2 | cuz 6 sux |
| 02:14.52 | Wzrd2 | there isn't any other higher version of flash avaliable for the 770, right? |
| 02:15.24 | Dr_Nunim | Nope. |
| 02:15.35 | Wzrd2 | how do I install apps on the 770? |
| 02:15.35 | Dr_Nunim | I can help you install Minimo though. |
| 02:15.39 | Dr_Nunim | Application Manager |
| 02:15.51 | Wzrd2 | I tried but it gives me an error |
| 02:16.04 | Wzrd2 | I downloaded all the libraries and the minimo files |
| 02:16.26 | Wzrd2 | tried installing from the memory card and also tried installing by copying to the internal memory |
| 02:17.09 | Wzrd2 | it says "can't install..missing files even though they are there" the missing files point to the libraries |
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| 02:22.18 | KaylaKaze | hmmm underestimated how long it take to send the screen data over the net... |
| 02:22.32 | Dr_Nunim | lol |
| 02:25.02 | Dr_Nunim | Wzrd2: the easiet way would be to add the correct repositories and let application manager do the work. |
| 02:25.17 | Dr_Nunim | add the one minimo says to add |
| 02:25.22 | Dr_Nunim | as well as Web address - http://repository.maemo.org |
| 02:25.22 | Dr_Nunim | Distribution - herring |
| 02:25.22 | Dr_Nunim | Components - main |
| 02:25.35 | Dr_Nunim | That'll satisfy the required dependencies. |
| 02:35.58 | Niacin | dude this is trying me crazy |
| 02:36.10 | Niacin | when i try to pair it says "no services" |
| 02:36.15 | Niacin | but it works fine in windows |
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| 02:50.38 | ttuttle | If I flash 2007 hacker on my n770, can I reinstall 2006 later if I change my mind? |
| 02:50.51 | Dr_Nunim | Yes. |
| 02:51.02 | ttuttle | Dr_Nunim: The normal way? |
| 02:51.13 | Dr_Nunim | You use the same flasher. |
| 02:51.16 | ttuttle | Dr_Nunim: Cool. |
| 02:51.24 | ttuttle | Dr_Nunim: Is there anything cool or new in hacker? |
| 02:51.34 | Dr_Nunim | Eh, some minor interface improvements and such. |
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| 02:51.37 | Dr_Nunim | It seems a little faster. |
| 02:51.43 | ttuttle | Dr_Nunim: Cool. Does sound work? |
| 02:51.56 | Dr_Nunim | The clicking noise did, I didn't try and play media. |
| 02:51.59 | ttuttle | Dr_Nunim: (I heard it didn't.) |
| 02:52.13 | ttuttle | Dr_Nunim: (You don't have it right now?) |
| 02:52.19 | Dr_Nunim | Nope. |
| 02:52.23 | Dr_Nunim | I went back to 2006. |
| 02:52.38 | Dr_Nunim | Was having issues with my applications in 2007. |
| 02:52.43 | ttuttle | Ah. |
| 02:58.23 | ttuttle | Flashed. Rebooting, I hope. |
| 02:58.31 | ttuttle | Progress bar is moving. |
| 02:58.35 | ttuttle | Faster. |
| 02:58.45 | ttuttle | Oh, it just lies. Never mind. |
| 02:58.54 | Dr_Nunim | Only took me around 3 minutes. |
| 03:01.39 | Dr_Nunim | So, anyone know how to customize the contacts area? |
| 03:06.54 | ericz | mine's being weird, i guess its just memory |
| 03:07.00 | ericz | like, menus flash white and close |
| 03:07.05 | ericz | and i have to reboot |
| 03:08.07 | KaylaKaze | there's something kinda nice about carrying your own http server around with you |
| 03:08.48 | ttuttle | KaylaKaze: hehe |
| 03:11.56 | ttuttle | Whoa, Hacker 2007 ROCKS! |
| 03:12.10 | ttuttle | It's faster, has a few more features, and (most importantly) is *much* prettier. |
| 03:12.50 | ttuttle | (And it's so cuuute, it thinks it's an N800!) |
| 03:19.52 | Niacin | man this is shitting me ;\ |
| 03:20.10 | Wzrd2 | can you elaborate on the install process, nunim? |
| 03:20.41 | Wzrd2 | I downloaded all the files inclucding the libries needed and put them in the same directory |
| 03:21.24 | Wzrd2 | double clicked on minimo and it asked if I wanted to install. then it erroed saying I was missing the libraries even though they are in the same directory |
| 03:21.53 | Niacin | where does the 770 keeps its logs? |
| 03:23.04 | Wzrd2 | stupid user manual on maemo page gets a 404 error |
| 03:24.22 | Dr_Nunim | Wzrd2, just use the repositories it's much easier. |
| 03:26.39 | Wzrd2 | please explain how to do that i'm not familar with linux |
| 03:27.05 | Dr_Nunim | http://dragon-gaming.com/blog/?p=5 |
| 03:27.14 | ttuttle | Hacker OS rocks! |
| 03:27.23 | Wzrd2 | sorry to be stupid. With a pc i'm an expert but I just got my 770 today and am not familiar with linux |
| 03:27.44 | Dr_Nunim | but instead of the ones listed use |
| 03:27.44 | Dr_Nunim | web address: http://www.maemo.org.br/minimo/ |
| 03:27.44 | Dr_Nunim | Distribution: bora |
| 03:27.44 | Dr_Nunim | Components: user |
| 03:27.46 | Dr_Nunim | & |
| 03:27.54 | Dr_Nunim | Web address - http://repository.maemo.org |
| 03:27.54 | Dr_Nunim | Distribution - herring |
| 03:27.54 | Dr_Nunim | Components - main |
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| 03:31.12 | Wzrd2 | and then install minimo? |
| 03:31.20 | Wzrd2 | from the list? |
| 03:32.19 | Dr_Nunim | Yeah |
| 03:32.29 | Dr_Nunim | Go Install New > All > Scroll Down to minimo and install. |
| 03:33.54 | Wzrd2 | thanks.. so from reading his faqs, anything on the app catalog from maemo you add the repository from whatever the app says then install? |
| 03:34.17 | Wzrd2 | that would be for installing any app or game on the 770?? |
| 03:34.37 | Dr_Nunim | Yeah. |
| 03:34.39 | Dr_Nunim | Pretty much. |
| 03:34.45 | Wzrd2 | that's pretty easy then |
| 03:36.00 | Wzrd2 | do you always have to gain root access for every install? |
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| 03:36.17 | Dr_Nunim | Nope. |
| 03:36.21 | Dr_Nunim | You rarely need root. |
| 03:36.29 | Dr_Nunim | I was just giving you an example how to install a repository. |
| 03:36.41 | Wzrd2 | ok so I cAN SKIP THAT STEP |
| 03:36.47 | Wzrd2 | oops...stupid caps lock |
| 03:37.08 | Dr_Nunim | yeah |
| 03:37.12 | Dr_Nunim | just install the repositorys |
| 03:37.16 | Dr_Nunim | and go to add application |
| 03:37.17 | Dr_Nunim | all |
| 03:37.20 | Dr_Nunim | scroll to minimo |
| 03:37.21 | Dr_Nunim | double click |
| 03:37.26 | Dr_Nunim | it'll say somet hings |
| 03:37.29 | Dr_Nunim | click ok |
| 03:37.31 | Dr_Nunim | and it'll install |
| 03:37.36 | Dr_Nunim | Then it'll be in Extras > Minimo |
| 03:41.42 | Wzrd2 | cool it worked! thanks.. now we need a later version of flash which works on the 770 |
| 03:42.05 | KaylaKaze | yay! DND sheet all working! |
| 03:42.55 | Wzrd2 | now to try and install doom :) |
| 03:45.54 | Dr_Nunim | Doom is easy :) |
| 03:46.06 | Wzrd2 | how does it run |
| 03:46.10 | Wzrd2 | is it smooth? |
| 03:47.30 | Dr_Nunim | Smooth enough. |
| 03:49.40 | Wzrd2 | so it's a little jerky but not bad? |
| 03:50.43 | Dr_Nunim | It's doom afterall.. |
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| 03:56.10 | [spec] | is there a howto to get airodump working on the 770? |
| 04:01.10 | sorbix | man playing doom with the stylus sucks so much ass |
| 04:05.25 | [spec] | i thought it was kinda cool |
| 04:05.36 | [spec] | much better than playing doom on the iPod |
| 04:05.55 | Wzrd2 | doom is kinda cool but there's no monsters |
| 04:06.47 | [spec] | i only played for about 35 seconds |
| 04:07.00 | [spec] | can you load your own wad files? |
| 04:07.09 | Wzrd2 | yes |
| 04:07.21 | [spec] | cool |
| 04:09.44 | Wzrd2 | is the os 2007 hacker edition way better? |
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| 04:27.36 | KaylaKaze | this is weird. Firefox isn't processing my havascript but it's not throwing any errors either... |
| 04:27.51 | KaylaKaze | javascript* |
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| 04:30.19 | KaylaKaze | and tracked down (hopefully) to a missing ) |
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| 04:31.48 | reverendnathan | Well howdy there, strangers! I got a question that perchance has been asked time and time again, but I want to ask it once more. |
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| 04:32.46 | reverendnathan | What support/development can the maemo community itself do to have Flash 7,8, or 9 on the tablet build of Linux? I'm interested in forming a development team if it's just the problem of getting the source onto the system. |
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| 04:35.14 | Dr_Nunim | Flash 9 is out of the question. |
| 04:35.35 | Dr_Nunim | For flash 8, you could try intergrating it with minimo |
| 04:36.22 | reverendnathan | What would the limitation of Flash 9 be? Since Adobe did build it for linux... |
| 04:36.31 | reverendnathan | Actually, Flash 8 doesn't exist for Linux, sorry |
| 04:36.36 | reverendnathan | They leaped from 7 to 9 |
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| 04:39.02 | Dr_Nunim | I was lead to believe they didn't release the SDK for flash 9 yet |
| 04:39.11 | Dr_Nunim | Thats why linux opera doesn't have it. |
| 04:43.11 | dragorn | They released a flash 9 plugin some months ago for linux. Flash 8 never happened for linux. |
| 04:43.33 | rhys | flash 7 is for opera though |
| 04:43.41 | rhys | im pretty sure flash 9 on opera doesnt work for linux? |
| 04:44.10 | brlancer | http://my.opera.com/haavard/blog/2007/04/13/wii-browser-out-but-why-flash-7-and-not-8-or-9 |
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| 04:47.10 | GeneralAntilles | UKTube has reduced my desire for Flash 9 a bit. |
| 04:47.14 | Dr_Nunim | I knew I read that somewhere. |
| 04:48.03 | rhys | GeneralAntilles, why is that? |
| 04:48.28 | rhys | what is the opera on maemo? opera mini? full opera compiled by opera? |
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| 04:52.07 | Dr_Nunim | combination? |
| 04:52.39 | reverendnathan | Seems to be full opera ripped and gutted and totally modified |
| 04:53.30 | reverendnathan | So why doesn't maemo get together a team to use the Flash 7 SDK and make flash 7 worakble? At least at that rate, YouTube and GV will work |
| 04:53.54 | rhys | with operas consent? nokia buy some dev rights or buy a custom opera from opera? |
| 04:54.52 | rhys | reverendnathan, doesnt it already have flash 7? |
| 04:55.01 | reverendnathan | Flash 6 |
| 04:55.06 | reverendnathan | On OS2006 here, though |
| 05:04.48 | rhys | oh right |
| 05:05.24 | rhys | i bought the n800 because i thought the n770 would be nice as a little linux device, but it seemed too underpowered to do what it was supposed to do. webrowsing and multimedia |
| 05:10.44 | Dr_Nunim | I don't think 770 is underpowered. |
| 05:10.48 | Dr_Nunim | For heavy flash/ajax maybe. |
| 05:13.53 | reverendnathan | Certainly if I was directly in the market I would have gone with the N800, but as you guys heard, the N770 was $129 on woot so I grabbed it there |
| 05:14.14 | reverendnathan | Pretty damn satisfied, and youtube is really the only stake in the coffin, really |
| 05:14.37 | rhys | reverendnathan, 225$ for the n800 |
| 05:15.45 | Dr_Nunim | Yeah $130, can't argue. |
| 05:15.53 | Dr_Nunim | I've spent more on junk. |
| 05:16.00 | Dr_Nunim | i.e. breadmaker. |
| 05:16.18 | rhys | hey now |
| 05:16.27 | rhys | breadmakers are so worth it |
| 05:16.33 | Dr_Nunim | No, I made bread one time. |
| 05:17.00 | reverendnathan | I make bread by hand, can't imagine a maker really saving too much time |
| 05:17.01 | rhys | the point of a breadmaker is to allow you to make bread easily |
| 05:17.19 | Dr_Nunim | Eh, it's a pain to clean. |
| 05:17.26 | Dr_Nunim | Granted it makes some very good cinnamon buns. |
| 05:17.28 | Dr_Nunim | but I'm lazy... |
| 05:19.11 | KaylaKaze | this d&D character sheet better be able to get me a job. It's pretty damn impressive IMO :-P |
| 05:19.22 | rhys | roffle. |
| 05:19.35 | KaylaKaze | it looks almost just like the paper one |
| 05:20.15 | KaylaKaze | I still have to add user authentification though |
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| 05:23.06 | ajcool | hi can someone please answer me a quick question about gaining root |
| 05:23.39 | ajcool | i type sudo gainroot after installing the required repositoires, but when i do an ls under the 'root' dir all i see are MyDocs and apps |
| 05:23.47 | ajcool | i'm trying to get into my memory card |
| 05:24.39 | ajcool | right now i see /home/user # (cursor) |
| 05:27.40 | ajcool | i'm trying to do "cd media" it says cannot cd to media |
| 05:30.32 | Dr_Nunim | cd /media/mmc1/ |
| 05:30.56 | ajcool | but when i type "ls" all i see are MyDocs and apps folder |
| 05:32.02 | ajcool | i type sudo gainroot, then it says "root shell enabled" |
| 05:32.04 | ajcool | comes up to |
| 05:32.14 | ajcool | ./home/user # (cursor) |
| 05:32.14 | Dr_Nunim | [01:29] <Dr_Nunim> cd /media/mmc1/ |
| 05:33.01 | ajcool | o |
| 05:33.02 | ajcool | weird |
| 05:33.04 | ajcool | thanks |
| 05:33.12 | ajcool | why is that so specific |
| 05:33.34 | Dr_Nunim | if you just type cd media |
| 05:33.38 | Dr_Nunim | it relative path |
| 05:33.42 | Dr_Nunim | so it would go to media |
| 05:33.47 | Dr_Nunim | typing cd /media/ |
| 05:33.53 | Dr_Nunim | means go to base then media |
| 05:35.12 | Dr_Nunim | Common linux goodyness. |
| 05:36.03 | rhys | so specific? werid? thats not specific. thats like telling someone to "to get to my house you drive 20 miles west."....if you dont give them a starting location, they assume it to be wherever they are currently at... |
| 05:37.20 | ajcool | eh w/e as long as i get the end result |
| 05:52.38 | `0660 | i'm one of them :) |
| 05:52.50 | `0660 | haven't seen the need for it yet |
| 05:54.23 | KaylaKaze | this thing says I have 15 MB of pictures... |
| 05:54.45 | KaylaKaze | I'd like to know where 'cause I don't see 'em nor did I put them theer |
| 05:55.20 | Dr_Nunim | It coems with some. |
| 05:55.21 | `0660 | sure you didn't :) |
| 05:55.27 | `0660 | blame the software :) |
| 05:55.46 | KaylaKaze | unless it's just counting any picture files, like from games |
| 06:00.54 | KaylaKaze | I'd like Nethack much more if it had a better map generator |
| 06:01.40 | Dr_Nunim | I never played it, anygood? |
| 06:02.58 | KaylaKaze | how could you never have played Nethack? |
| 06:04.55 | rhys | nethack? |
| 06:05.23 | KaylaKaze | http://www.nethack.org/ |
| 06:06.39 | KaylaKaze | the version on the 770 is one of the better I've seen |
| 06:10.16 | Dr_Nunim | Why does this look like something I don't want to play. |
| 06:10.23 | Dr_Nunim | Man that would make a great port. |
| 06:10.34 | rhys | ?omg.. |
| 06:10.35 | rhys | omg |
| 06:10.41 | rhys | Wtf. |
| 06:10.54 | Dr_Nunim | ? |
| 06:10.57 | rhys | KaylaKaze, how fooking 1337 do you have to be to play nethack?! |
| 06:11.22 | Dr_Nunim | lol, I'd bet it looks more like the windows version |
| 06:11.28 | Dr_Nunim | not the asci lol |
| 06:12.44 | rhys | im thinking.wow. this is like the uberness of 1337ness. D&D, text based, ascii based, ported to linux on an arm device, played via cli. |
| 06:12.53 | KaylaKaze | I'd play it all the time if it's map generator didn't suck |
| 06:13.35 | KaylaKaze | the 770 version is graphical |
| 06:18.00 | `0660 | i wish i was leet |
| 06:18.06 | rhys | wow |
| 06:18.12 | `0660 | :) |
| 06:18.23 | `0660 | do you feel the same? |
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| 12:24.20 | r3tro | hello! some months ago i got my new n800 and defined a code for device lock. now i have locked the device by accident and because i forgot the code and the device didn't ask the code before locking i have a problem now. |
| 12:25.09 | r3tro | i can still ssh into the device and become root. but the code and the lock seems to be defined in flash. and the flasher doesnt support setting or disabling device lock. |
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| 12:25.59 | inz | r3tro, afaik you need to take the device to service point if you've lost the code |
| 12:26.58 | r3tro | i found way to check a code via dbus, and try to brute-force hack my lock code, but now im at code 1.500.000 but no luck yet. i don't if my script works... |
| 12:27.18 | r3tro | this is the dbus command: dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=com.nokia.mce --print-reply /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.validate_devicelock_code string:'12345' |
| 12:28.06 | r3tro | if one of you could do me a favor: lock your device (you should know your code), ssh into it and sumit the command above with your code? so i could verify that my brute-force script has a chance? |
| 12:30.42 | KaylaKaze | I don't think Canola likes my shared media... I think I have too much that it can't load the list... |
| 12:33.19 | inz | r3tro, dbus-names.h in mce-dev package says that it takes it encrypted |
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| 12:35.58 | r3tro | inz: argh! do you have a link for me to that file? |
| 12:36.30 | inz | r3tro, not the the file, but to the deb package, yes |
| 12:36.44 | inz | r3tro, http://repository.maemo.org/pool/bora/free/binary/mce-dev_1.5.6_all.deb |
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| 12:38.28 | r3tro | inz, thank you. what strange: if i "dbus-monitor --system" as root and enter a code via user interface, dbus-monitor shows only the following event |
| 12:38.42 | r3tro | signal sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> dest=(null destination) interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameOwnerChanged |
| 12:39.09 | r3tro | but no validate_devicelock_code, so it seems that the ui doesnt check the devicelock via dbus.... |
| 12:46.23 | r3tro | inz, do you know how the nokia service point handles such a case? do they have a special flasher or what? |
| 12:49.22 | inz | r3tro, I think you only see signals with monitor |
| 12:49.57 | inz | r3tro, and no idea what they would do |
| 12:52.28 | r3tro | inz, only signals: seems plausible. thank you! |
| 12:53.37 | inz | r3tro, btw, you can get the device out of locked state by reflashing, the code is not reset however |
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| 12:58.56 | r3tro | inz, yes i read that :-/ |
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| 13:06.00 | KaylaKaze | is there a way to reset the GUI? I have a menu popup that won't go away and apparently the system forgot it's there 'cause I click right through it |
| 13:08.36 | r3tro | inz, i can now use my device again: i replaced /sbin/devlock-blocker with an empty bash script, and /usr/bin/systemui with a bash script with sleep 10 as the only argument (this seems to be the devcode ui, it gets restartet after termination until the code is deactivated) |
| 13:08.56 | KaylaKaze | I've got cifs working now to my desktop shares. yay! |
| 13:09.30 | r3tro | inz, but i cant deativate my devlock code because the system dialog requests the old code first. how stupid is that! |
| 13:09.50 | Sho_ | KaylaKaze: Did you build cifs.ko yourself? I use fanoush's antique module because I'm too lazy to build my own - would be interested in yours if you have a newer one ;) |
| 13:10.20 | r3tro | inz, so i have to keep my hack or go to nokia service point (and i think they would send it to nokia, i don't think they can handle this by themselves) |
| 13:12.04 | KaylaKaze | no, I didn't build it. I don't know how it got installed |
| 13:12.20 | KaylaKaze | I used appman to install some samba stuff so maybe that did it |
| 13:12.31 | Sho_ | mkay |
| 13:12.54 | KaylaKaze | is there a way to make the device scan for wlan on startup and autoconnect if it sees a particular access point? |
| 13:13.14 | Sho_ | that's what it does here, actually |
| 13:14.16 | KaylaKaze | mine might after I start web browser or something (I'm not sure) but it doesn't connect immediately on startup |
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| 13:16.04 | r3tro | KaylaKaze, mine connects immediately, too. even when it's locked :-) |
| 13:16.30 | r3tro | Sho_, but maybe we have installed a package that performs an internet request at startup and triggers the wlan connection? |
| 13:16.46 | KaylaKaze | I wonder why mine won't. Plus mine always asks for what connection to connect to |
| 13:17.03 | Sho_ | dunno |
| 13:17.13 | Sho_ | I just configured my connection in Control Panel and that was that |
| 13:17.26 | Sho_ | If it was connected prior to shutdown, it will auto-reconnect after startup |
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| 13:18.47 | KaylaKaze | weird... Canola won't load files from my mounted cifs folder. I can't open them in Audio Player 'cause it seems the file list is so big that it crashes |
| 13:19.36 | Sho_ | KaylaKaze: Primarily Maemo's "Open" dialog takes forever on large CIFS mounts because it descends into every directory and counts the number of items and so on and so on, I found |
| 13:19.48 | Sho_ | KaylaKaze: I play stuff from CIFS via mplayer in XTerm ;) |
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| 13:20.23 | KaylaKaze | I don't like using xterm on the tablet 'cause typing sucks |
| 13:20.53 | KaylaKaze | I think I got Canola working on it now |
| 13:21.45 | suihkulokki | KaylaKaze: canola and the built-in mediaplayer support UPNP, might be easier to setup than CIFS |
| 13:22.07 | KaylaKaze | Canola won't work with my uPNP 'cause tghere's too much stuff |
| 13:30.42 | KaylaKaze | is thee a way in a .sh file to prompt for the use to enter a pw and use that pw in the script as a variable? |
| 13:33.15 | Niacin | anyone here actually got bluetooth dun working on the 770? |
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| 14:05.35 | KaylaKaze | yay! I got canola to work with uPnP streaming! |
| 14:05.45 | KaylaKaze | video's choppy but still cool |
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| 14:22.48 | KaylaKaze | apparently with UPnP, you can't fast forward and rewind :-( |
| 14:28.04 | KaylaKaze | mplayer sucks really bad :-( |
| 14:28.28 | Sho_ | how so? |
| 14:29.53 | KaylaKaze | barely works for 1 |
| 14:30.02 | KaylaKaze | and plain doesn't for video |
| 14:30.20 | KaylaKaze | while playing mp3, I had to use kill to stop it |
| 14:30.46 | KaylaKaze | video almost completely locked the system, but it crashed soon after so that freed up the lock |
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| 14:31.08 | KaylaKaze | the inteface is nonexistant and it uses the default file browser |
| 14:31.26 | KaylaKaze | the only program I've seen so far to use a decent file browser is FBReader |
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| 14:32.52 | KaylaKaze | and WTF is up with these UPnP listing songs by their title? Songs don't go on their discs in alphabetical order! |
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| 14:38.05 | Sho_ | KaylaKaze: hm works fine here |
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| 14:42.22 | dev | KaylaKaze: if the UPnP client doesn't do sorting on its own (which isn't its task normally), the sorting depends on the UPnP MediaServer |
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| 14:44.33 | KaylaKaze | I figured that was the case. I was referring to the server |
| 14:44.39 | MoRpHeUz | where do you guys buy your n800's car holder here in Finland ? |
| 14:45.19 | KaylaKaze | I think this one kinda sucks 'cause it doesn't give me an option to scan for playlists and auto-import them |
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| 15:00.05 | KaylaKaze | ! |
| 15:00.20 | KaylaKaze | somehow my c:\ got del *.* ! |
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| 15:06.44 | KaylaKaze | my c:\ got del *.* somehome! :-/ |
| 15:07.06 | KaylaKaze | somehow* |
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| 15:25.53 | KaylaKaze | Irc on 770 is not fun |
| 15:34.14 | KaylaKaze | The results of my scan are odd... |
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| 15:55.28 | Padrino | I have been trying to install Plutohome packages but I cant find libxsb,libxmu among others, any pointers to arepo with them? |
| 15:57.28 | KaylaKaze | This is odd. SimpleCenter seems to have made a ton of files in my c:\ when installed, then deleted them. |
| 15:58.00 | KaylaKaze | Maybe it nuked my stuff in the process. |
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| 16:05.52 | KaylaKaze | :-( you can only connect to 1 irc server at a time in xchat |
| 16:06.50 | melmoth | KaylaKaze, try again, you can. |
| 16:06.54 | melmoth | at least it works here. |
| 16:09.17 | KaylaKaze | I've got file scavenger trying to recover my nuked files but normal search didn't find them so exhaustive search is going on... slowly |
| 16:10.21 | KaylaKaze | But that may be overkill. I don't think anything important was lost. Just some nice script files :-( |
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| 16:44.55 | tom_ | I've got a problem. I'm running Hacker 2007 on an N770, and the App Manager forgot about all the apps I installed. |
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| 16:46.01 | ttuttle | How can I fix that? |
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| 16:47.31 | ttuttle | It's all based on apt, right? |
| 16:47.50 | ttuttle | (Is anyone here?) |
| 16:49.48 | ttuttle | And I keep getting "Operation failed" when I try to update the application list. |
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| 16:50.40 | Sho_ | ttuttle: That's often due to a repos in the list that went down or is otherwise unreachable, I find |
| 16:50.57 | ttuttle | Sho_: Would that mess up the local app list too? |
| 16:51.09 | Sho_ | ttuttle: I don't think so, no |
| 16:52.08 | ttuttle | Sho_: Yeah, I'm worried that a previous install messed up (perhaps the disk filled up) and blew away the installed apps list. |
| 16:52.49 | Sho_ | Unfortunately I'm a Gentoo user on the desktop, so I'm not very familar with the on-disk structures of apt/dpkg either |
| 16:52.52 | ttuttle | Sho_: I'm thinking I might just have to reflash it. |
| 16:53.07 | ttuttle | Sho_: /me likes Gentoo too. |
| 16:53.20 | Sho_ | I figured by your hostmask ;) |
| 16:53.28 | ttuttle | Sho_: ;-) |
| 16:54.03 | Sho_ | Marcus from Gentoo will hold a Gentoo & KDE talk on our developers conference later today :) |
| 16:56.33 | Sho_ | I got my N800 two weeks ago with the latest firmware pre-installed, so no flashing experience yet either ;) |
| 16:56.46 | ttuttle | Sho_: You have an N800? Grr... |
| 16:57.10 | Sho_ | In my defense, I didn't have an N770 when that was hip |
| 16:57.11 | Sho_ | ;) |
| 16:58.08 | ttuttle | Sho_: Grr. |
| 16:58.39 | ttuttle | Sho_: Yours has a camera. Only dumb, *consumer* gadgets have *cameras*. *Mine* is *31337*-er! ;-) |
| 16:59.18 | Sho_ | I think calling it a camera is a little inappropriate though |
| 16:59.25 | Sho_ | I'd go with "pixel coloration device" |
| 16:59.29 | ttuttle | Sho_: More like a multi-pixel brightness sensor with oclor filters? |
| 16:59.32 | ttuttle | s/oclor/color/; |
| 16:59.32 | Sho_ | Based on the image quality ... |
| 16:59.35 | ttuttle | Sho_: lol |
| 16:59.36 | Sho_ | yeah that fits it :) |
| 16:59.50 | ttuttle | Sho_: My phone (Samsung SGH-A707) actually has a nice camera, and I can OBEX push stuff from/to it ;-) |
| 17:00.30 | Sho_ | I have a crappy Moto Razr V3 that I chose because it didn't cost me anything in a contract extension and because it was nicely thin ;) |
| 17:00.44 | Sho_ | Bluetoothing to it from the N800 works fine, but the camera isn't much better |
| 17:00.52 | ttuttle | Sho_: /me has a shiny new "Nokia N800". |
| 17:01.07 | ttuttle | Sho_: Or at least it thinks so. |
| 17:01.21 | KaylaKaze | I should try harder to get my phone and 770 to share files. My phone has a 1GB SD in it |
| 17:01.58 | Sho_ | As for the N800, I saw http://www.maemo-apps.org/CONTENT/content-pre3/47430-3.jpg and knew I needed to have one ;) |
| 17:02.21 | KaylaKaze | that's on 770 too |
| 17:02.29 | ttuttle | Sho_: what is it? |
| 17:02.35 | KaylaKaze | the LCARS theme |
| 17:02.55 | Sho_ | ttuttle: It's a theme for the OS that is reminiscent of the computer interface graphics on the modern Star Trek TV shows |
| 17:03.26 | ttuttle | Sho_: Ah. |
| 17:03.31 | Sho_ | ttuttle: Which is appropriate, because those shows features an assortment of touchscreen handhelds called "padds": http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/PADD |
| 17:03.31 | KaylaKaze | I've looked at the files for theme making and there are LOTS of files you'd need to modify |
| 17:03.41 | ttuttle | Sho_: What is the "internal memory card" on the N800 |
| 17:03.43 | Sho_ | Of course, the hostname of my N800 is now "padd", too ;) |
| 17:03.56 | Sho_ | ttuttle: There's a second SD slot under the battery cover |
| 17:04.01 | Sho_ | That's the "Internal" one |
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| 17:04.51 | ttuttle | Sho_: Ah. Do the N770's have that? |
| 17:04.59 | Sho_ | When I bought my N800 there was a 128 MB Mini-SD card in a Mini-SD-to-SD adapter in the box, I put that into the internal slot and set up the OS to use it as swap space. The external slots hold a 2 GB higher-end card from SanDisk. |
| 17:05.03 | Sho_ | ttuttle: dunno |
| 17:05.20 | KaylaKaze | ttuttle: The extra memory? no |
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| 17:13.41 | ttuttle | What app catalogues can I trust? |
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| 17:16.39 | ttuttle | Sho_: I was pissed. I tried using a 16 MB swapfile on the stock 64 MB card, and I was playing music off it too. Bad idea, everything skips. |
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| 17:27.33 | jpt9 | hey. how's it going? |
| 17:28.21 | jpt9 | it's quite awesome. |
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| 17:31.16 | Sho_ | ttuttle: I network-mount my music collection via CIFS |
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| 17:33.02 | Tu13es | hmm |
| 17:33.07 | Tu13es | I just got a n770 a few days ago |
| 17:33.14 | kulve | lardman|gone: that thesis didn't include any code, just explanation (too highlevel for us) about what was done.. |
| 17:33.27 | Tu13es | been doing some reading, but i can't really figure out - why would I want to install OS 2007 hacker edition? |
| 17:33.34 | Tu13es | that is, what will that give me that OS 2006 doesn't? |
| 17:34.22 | kulve | Tu13es: I think it has newer software (desktop, app.mgr) and thus can more easily use stuff made for n800.. |
| 17:34.32 | Tu13es | hmm |
| 17:34.47 | Tu13es | worth the trouble to upgrade? |
| 17:34.56 | Sho_ | Given that it's a major release, I assume pretty much everything has been updated in some fashion |
| 17:35.10 | Sho_ | It seems like most people in the Maemo community are still on N770, hmhm |
| 17:35.16 | kulve | I can't say about that, since I haven't tried it ever (I have n800). Some people are happy with it |
| 17:35.30 | Tu13es | gotcha |
| 17:35.37 | samiam010203 | when i flashed my 770 with hacker edition all that kept happining was i was getting random reboots of my 770 so i went back to the it os 2006 and no more reboots |
| 17:35.42 | Tu13es | my gf is interested in my n770, I might give that to her and pick up an n800 instead |
| 17:35.48 | kulve | Tu13es: if you haven't yet spent too much time on your 2006, flash the 2007 and check it out |
| 17:36.28 | Tu13es | I wish the N800 wasn't like $230 more than the N770, heh |
| 17:36.35 | samiam010203 | same |
| 17:36.53 | samiam010203 | im going to get an n800 for x-mass i think |
| 17:36.59 | samiam010203 | by then it should be cheaper |
| 17:37.27 | Sho_ | 340€ seemed like a pretty good deal to me |
| 17:37.34 | ericz | anyone know off hand what size wallpapers should be for the 770? |
| 17:38.04 | samiam010203 | 640x480 |
| 17:38.16 | kulve | 640? |
| 17:38.33 | samiam010203 | yes thats what im using and it give a nice crisp image |
| 17:39.09 | kulve | the reso is 800x480, but the task navigator takes something off it |
| 17:39.41 | ericz | ah |
| 17:40.14 | samiam010203 | it would be cool if there was an opption to auto hide the navigatore and then tap to get it back |
| 17:40.59 | kulve | most apps supports the full screen mode which partly covers that |
| 17:41.05 | samiam010203 | yes |
| 17:41.08 | samiam010203 | thats true |
| 17:41.11 | kulve | ofc, if you want fullscreen home with applets.. |
| 17:41.36 | kulve | but then you can't start anything (expect with the launcher applet) |
| 17:41.59 | samiam010203 | no you would hide the taskpan and then tap to bring it back into view |
| 17:42.47 | kulve | maybe the fullscreen button could do that? Hide tasknav and the home menu. Leave the status bar with its plugins.. |
| 17:42.47 | samiam010203 | let me ask you something |
| 17:43.02 | samiam010203 | i just ordered an 512mb rs-mmc for the 770 |
| 17:43.45 | samiam010203 | if i alocate 256mb of ram to the device would that help with the device not freezing up or rebooting if i decided to put on hack os 2007? |
| 17:44.25 | samiam010203 | because right now im just using the ram that came with it ... i beleive its 64mb |
| 17:44.40 | kulve | Hard to say. Reboots are cause by so many issues. The swap can help if the reboots are caused by memory issues.. |
| 17:45.10 | samiam010203 | what would happen is when i would start hacker edition, and then go to click for the menu it would reboot |
| 17:45.21 | samiam010203 | or sometime opera would crash and cause a reboot |
| 17:46.00 | samiam010203 | i was thinking it was because it needed more ram to run the hacker edition |
| 17:46.22 | kulve | rebooting on menu click sounds odd. Opera can take quite a lot of memory depending on the www-pages, so the swap might help there.. |
| 17:46.40 | samiam010203 | yes |
| 17:46.53 | samiam010203 | i would get random reboots on the menu clicks |
| 17:47.04 | samiam010203 | i would hit for the menu and whamo...a reboot |
| 17:47.32 | samiam010203 | thats why i think it was a matter of not enough ram |
| 17:47.35 | ericz | i get times when my 770, i go to click a menu item, to get to like the secondary menu, and it just flashes white and closes |
| 17:47.54 | ericz | but it's not really running slow, just the menus don't like to show |
| 17:48.16 | samiam010203 | i realy wish they would not have closed the development of the 770 |
| 17:48.22 | samiam010203 | its such a good device |
| 17:48.50 | samiam010203 | even when i do get an n800 ill still utilize the 770 |
| 17:49.19 | samiam010203 | i wish they could at least update the opera and flash just for youtube :) but thats a wet dream of mine that im sure will not be met |
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| 17:50.22 | ericz | what format should 770 wallpapers be? |
| 17:50.33 | ericz | png? jpg? |
| 17:50.34 | Dr_Nunim | png |
| 17:50.40 | ericz | k, thanks |
| 17:54.07 | ericz | ah! "unable to open not enough memory" when i try to change the wallpaper.. |
| 17:55.22 | Tu13es | when installing IT2007HE on my n770, can I use these directions just with the new OS file? http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_flashlatestnokiaimagewithmacosx/ |
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| 18:01.57 | kulve | I don't know a thing about osx, but afaik, the he-edition is normal "firmware" image, so it should be flashable normally.. |
| 18:02.06 | Dr_Nunim | You're on OSX? |
| 18:03.43 | Tu13es | word |
| 18:03.45 | Tu13es | yeah, I am |
| 18:04.11 | Dr_Nunim | :( |
| 18:04.17 | Tu13es | ? |
| 18:04.27 | Dr_Nunim | Macs are evillllllll! |
| 18:04.29 | Dr_Nunim | but besides that. |
| 18:04.34 | Tu13es | meh |
| 18:04.34 | Dr_Nunim | Yeah just use the latest image |
| 18:04.37 | Tu13es | cool |
| 18:04.42 | Dr_Nunim | Make sure you're using flasher 2 |
| 18:04.55 | Tu13es | hm |
| 18:04.58 | Tu13es | was gonna use the GUI tool |
| 18:05.04 | Tu13es | bad idea? |
| 18:05.34 | Dr_Nunim | If theres a GUI tool that should work. |
| 18:05.50 | Dr_Nunim | I thought it was command line like the linux one. |
| 18:06.55 | Jaffa | The GUI should work, so I've been told. |
| 18:07.16 | Jaffa | I've not tried it since I got rid of my Mac, but since I'm told it still works I haven't taken it down |
| 18:07.18 | Tu13es | the official flasher is a command line tool but someone made a GUI one |
| 18:07.55 | Tu13es | I generally hate the command line, as it hates me |
| 18:07.55 | Jaffa | Tu13es: yeah, that'd be me :) |
| 18:07.55 | Tu13es | ah :P |
| 18:08.21 | Tu13es | does the n770 boot without the MMC inserted? |
| 18:08.25 | Jaffa | Yes |
| 18:09.06 | Dr_Nunim | Hrm, can I add an .sh script for doing my cifs mounting? |
| 18:09.24 | Dr_Nunim | And if so do I add it like a regular debian boot time script? |
| 18:09.52 | Jaffa | Can do |
| 18:10.25 | Dr_Nunim | :) |
| 18:12.17 | Tu13es | USB mode is turning on the device while holding the Home button, right? |
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| 18:12.40 | Dr_Nunim | Yup. |
| 18:12.48 | Dr_Nunim | Till the usb symbol appears in top right. |
| 18:12.52 | Tu13es | hrm |
| 18:12.58 | Tu13es | that's not working |
| 18:13.01 | Tu13es | though it worked before.. |
| 18:13.02 | Tu13es | hrm |
| 18:14.21 | sp3000 | charger plugged? it doesn't really turn off then |
| 18:14.28 | Tu13es | nope, unplugged |
| 18:16.37 | Dr_Nunim | Wasn't hard for me :o |
| 18:16.39 | Tu13es | ah, worked with another USB port, weird |
| 18:16.43 | Dr_Nunim | Now where to find USB risers. |
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| 18:20.26 | Tu13es | yey, got 2007 installed |
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| 18:52.02 | ttuttle | Someone name their "must have" apps that will probably run on Hacker 2007. I'm looking for some to install. |
| 18:53.28 | keesj | sound under sdl. |
| 18:53.47 | ericz_ | ttuttle, im lovin' this thing |
| 18:53.59 | ttuttle | ericz_: Cool. |
| 18:54.05 | ttuttle | keesj: What uses SDL? |
| 18:54.39 | ericz_ | i didn't realize my neighborhood had so much wifi |
| 18:54.47 | ttuttle | ericz_: lol |
| 18:55.01 | ttuttle | keesj: I'm getting along fine. |
| 18:55.14 | ericz_ | i wish freenode had ssl though |
| 18:55.26 | ttuttle | ericz_: Meh. |
| 18:56.30 | ttuttle | keesj: ? |
| 18:57.18 | keesj | searching... |
| 18:57.25 | ttuttle | keesj: Ok. |
| 18:58.10 | keesj | ttuttle: Sorry I missread you , you want wokring apps! |
| 18:58.59 | keesj | wat there a gizmo for the n770? |
| 18:59.51 | keesj | thinking of it what are the real killer apps, moslty video stuff I guess |
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| 19:04.21 | ericz_ | is there a tor port for the 700? |
| 19:04.27 | ericz_ | 770* |
| 19:05.56 | jani | keesj: what do you mean with "sound under sdl" ? |
| 19:06.49 | megabyte405 | hey folks |
| 19:07.11 | keesj | jani: I remember that I tried some sdl games and they did not work on 770 hackers becasue of sound issues |
| 19:07.41 | keesj | penpop was one of them |
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| 19:08.44 | jani | well, i dont know about the old platform and their software revisions but as far as i know, two of the games shipping with nXXX's are sdl games and they do have working sound. |
| 19:08.49 | padrino | without putting a full toolchain together I am having a hard time finding libXmu.so.6 for my n770 (OS 2006). Could someone please point me to a binary? |
| 19:09.16 | megabyte405 | I see a lot of talking about how to synchronize calendars (which I have been unsuccessful at) - has anyone tried/succeeded at doing the same with Tasks/todo? |
| 19:09.42 | megabyte405 | Unfortunately with that content there's no "Google Tasks" to synchronize with to ease things |
| 19:10.37 | jani | blocks atleast was sdl based .. |
| 19:11.31 | ttuttle | Where can I get "libglade2-0 (>=1:2.3.6)"? mmpc wants it. I'm on Hacker 2007. |
| 19:12.11 | megabyte405 | ttuttle: did you add the standard bora repositories? I'm fairly certain it's there |
| 19:12.12 | jani | ttuttle: tried apt-cache search libglade2 ? |
| 19:12.39 | ttuttle | megabyte405: What are they listed? I just add what App Manager asks me to :-\ |
| 19:12.42 | VimSi | ttuttle: http://www.gronmayer.com/n800/repos/index.php?lang=en |
| 19:12.51 | VimSi | i think one of the repos has ist |
| 19:12.59 | ttuttle | VimSi: Thanks. |
| 19:13.19 | VimSi | if you get mmpc on the 770 to work |
| 19:13.23 | VimSi | pls msg me |
| 19:13.36 | VimSi | i wasn't able to connect to my mpd :( |
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| 19:23.20 | ttuttle | megabyte405: What's the standard bora repository? |
| 19:23.32 | ttuttle | megabyte405: brb, I'm gonna irc from my n770. |
| 19:23.45 | megabyte405 | ttuttle: vimsi sent you the link |
| 19:23.54 | ttuttle | megabyte405: Oh, I wasn't sure if it was the same thing. |
| 19:24.05 | megabyte405 | well, that's not the repository itself |
| 19:24.07 | megabyte405 | it lists them |
| 19:24.54 | ttuttle | What's the difference between "Debian Nokia" catalogue at repository.maemo.org and nokia's site? |
| 19:25.40 | megabyte405 | get debian nokia (which is the maemo repository) |
| 19:25.48 | ttuttle | megabyte405: Okay. extras or not? |
| 19:25.51 | megabyte405 | "Bora Extras" |
| 19:25.52 | ttuttle | megabyte405: or both? |
| 19:25.56 | megabyte405 | and the other one too |
| 19:25.57 | megabyte405 | both |
| 19:26.02 | ttuttle | megabyte405: ok |
| 19:26.27 | ttuttle | And contrib? |
| 19:26.40 | megabyte405 | sure |
| 19:26.45 | megabyte405 | really, you can't add too many repositories as long as they're all credible |
| 19:26.48 | megabyte405 | and the maemo.org ones are |
| 19:26.56 | ttuttle | megabyte405: Components? |
| 19:27.03 | ttuttle | megabyte405: free and non-free? user? |
| 19:27.21 | megabyte405 | click the links for the install files |
| 19:27.48 | ttuttle | megabyte405: Wait, on the site? I was entering them by hand :-\ |
| 19:28.26 | megabyte405 | yeah |
| 19:29.05 | ttuttle | megabyte405: Eh, I got it entered already. |
| 19:29.17 | ttuttle | megabyte405: Argh, one of them is broken. |
| 19:29.55 | ttuttle | Why is repo.maemo.org listed as "mistral" for the N800? Isn't N800 bora? |
| 19:30.36 | megabyte405 | yeah |
| 19:30.41 | megabyte405 | that one is wrong |
| 19:30.44 | ttuttle | Is FBreader's repo trustworthy? |
| 19:30.45 | megabyte405 | it should be bora |
| 19:30.50 | megabyte405 | I'm not sure |
| 19:31.19 | ttuttle | megabyte405: Pidgin? |
| 19:31.35 | megabyte405 | yeah, that's fine |
| 19:31.44 | ttuttle | megabyte405: Ok. |
| 19:32.00 | ttuttle | megabyte405: eko.one.pl? (It has, IIRC, becomeroot and kismet.) |
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| 19:33.35 | ttuttle | ericz_: HEY! |
| 19:33.44 | ericz_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.58 | ttuttle | ericz_: N770 FTW! |
| 19:34.04 | ttuttle | ericz_: Are you running 2006 or Hacker 2007? |
| 19:34.11 | ericz_ | i so want a 2gb rsmmc now. |
| 19:34.17 | ericz_ | 2006 |
| 19:34.37 | ttuttle | ericz_: Me too. You should try Hacker 2007. It's nice. A little unstable, but UI has some great improvements. |
| 19:34.58 | ericz_ | too scared to flsh. flash is like a dirty word |
| 19:35.17 | ttuttle | ericz_: Oh, I've done it twice on mine and once on my brother's. It's easy. |
| 19:35.41 | ttuttle | ericz_: (Just make sure any data you need is backed up and everything's plugged in and charged.) |
| 19:35.59 | ericz_ | heh, i considered flashing my router for months before i finally did it |
| 19:36.18 | ttuttle | ericz_: I bought my second one with the knowledge that I would need to flash it to do what I wanted ;-) |
| 19:36.28 | ericz_ | lol |
| 19:37.14 | ericz_ | i was so nervous doing the tftp flash on my v5 wrt54g |
| 19:37.31 | megabyte405 | ericz: to a linksys firmware or a 3rd party? :) |
| 19:37.45 | ttuttle | megabyte405: How can I tell what packages come from a repo? |
| 19:37.51 | ericz_ | ddwrt |
| 19:37.56 | Tu13es | dd-wrt ftw |
| 19:38.02 | ttuttle | ericz_: DD-WRT FTW^2! |
| 19:38.08 | ttuttle | megabyte405: Can I trust maemo-hackers.org? |
| 19:38.12 | Tu13es | i bricked a wrt54g v5 once |
| 19:38.12 | megabyte405 | yeah |
| 19:38.26 | Tu13es | i've got a buffalo router that i like much better nw |
| 19:38.27 | Tu13es | now |
| 19:38.46 | ericz_ | yeah, i only did it to forward more than 10 ports ad static dhcp |
| 19:39.02 | ericz_ | worked fine |
| 19:39.03 | ttuttle | Tu13es: Eh, I've fixed ones I thought were bricked. |
| 19:39.08 | ttuttle | ericz_: Yeah, I needed it for WDS. |
| 19:39.13 | Tu13es | this one was bricked |
| 19:39.20 | ttuttle | Tu13es: Like totally? |
| 19:39.27 | Tu13es | well, short of possibly reflashing with a JTAG connector or whatever |
| 19:39.38 | Tu13es | but yeah, I tried _everything_, it was bricked |
| 19:39.48 | ttuttle | Tu13es: They should just throw in a $0.10 chip that lets you reflash it *directly* using a serial port. |
| 19:40.01 | ericz_ | i thouht i bricked mine, but i rebooted it and it was fine |
| 19:40.01 | Tu13es | i agree |
| 19:40.16 | ttuttle | Cool, this thing runs dnsmasq? |
| 19:41.40 | ttuttle | So do I. It's cool that a 250 MHz ARM handheld and my home server run the same software. |
| 19:42.14 | ericz_ | i think this does better than 3 hours battery life |
| 19:42.25 | ericz_ | maybe? |
| 19:42.45 | ttuttle | g2g |
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| 19:49.41 | zuh | ericz_: It depends what you do with it. The wlan chip drains power pretty quickly if it's constantly used. |
| 19:51.27 | ericz_ | just been on xchat for awhile with occasional browsing |
| 19:52.28 | ericz_ | seems to be lasting awhile, been connected over 2 hrs, still 2 bars on the battery icon |
| 19:52.48 | ericz_ | was full when i first connected |
| 19:54.23 | zuh | Don't trust the battery icon to be too accurate though |
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| 19:57.15 | ericz_ | lxdoom just made it drop a bar |
| 19:57.25 | ericz_ | but its awesome |
| 19:58.56 | zuh | I can't really get the hang of the controls, it's just too damn difficult to dodge and aim |
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| 20:04.49 | ericz_ | yeah, turning is weird |
| 20:08.15 | zuh | If there was a ministick instead of the dpad, so you could control the movement with that and just aim by stylys with center of the screen being an anchor for a relative movement, *then* it could be cool to play it |
| 20:08.57 | zuh | I doubt the CRT will yield much |
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| 20:11.39 | ericz_ | wouldnt go well w/ dual lcds |
| 20:17.49 | padrino | without putting a full toolchain together I am having a hard time finding libXmu.so.6 for my n770 (OS 2006). Could someone please point me to a binary? |
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| 20:32.28 | pupnik | Nokia 770 featured in hollywood film: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7050 |
| 20:35.19 | pupnik | "Live Free or Die Hard" |
| 20:35.56 | gla55_ | reading those forums, /me wonders who is SeRi@lDiE |
| 20:36.22 | gla55_ | since i'm in his sig |
| 20:38.13 | pupnik | hmm |
| 20:38.27 | gla55_ | ahm found the irc log it's from |
| 20:38.42 | gla55_ | as i suspected it was about symbian, ha |
| 20:40.15 | pupnik | the name is familiar |
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| 20:45.57 | jpt9 | Does anyone know if it's possible to edit the word completion dictionaries? I'm pretty sure they've picked up a few typos during the last few days. (I just got my Nokia 770 yesterday.) |
| 20:49.25 | milhouse | jpt9 - don't think there is, other than a full reset (reflash) |
| 20:49.47 | milhouse | there problably is a way, but i've never seen it publicised |
| 20:51.29 | jpt9 | they've gotta be stored somewhere. it seems a bit foolish of Nokia to implement customizable dictionaries, but not implement a separate user dictionary that can be edited if need be. |
| 20:51.45 | milhouse | welcome to the world of Maemo... ;) |
| 20:51.50 | jpt9 | lol... |
| 20:53.15 | pupnik | http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html Another issues survey. I got 79% RP, 78% Kent McNaigal, 51% Chuck Hagel, 50% Denis Kucinich |
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| 20:55.11 | pupnik | Test how your opinions match the candidates: policy based survey at http://www.positivepress.com/president/survey.cgi |
| 20:59.51 | jpt9 | where's the pipe key? (it's the chracter above the backslash key on a US QWERTY keyboard) |
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| 21:00.41 | Niacin | having problems with pppd |
| 21:00.50 | Niacin | anyone know whats the story with syslog on the 770? |
| 21:00.53 | jpt9 | found it. doesn't seem to be on the small keyboard... |
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| 21:02.34 | milhouse | Niacin: go on, give us a clue... |
| 21:02.36 | ericz | fceu rocks. |
| 21:02.55 | milhouse | syslog works fine on the 770 as far as I can recall |
| 21:03.38 | Niacin | eh i dont even see it runing |
| 21:04.14 | milhouse | try starting it manually |
| 21:04.40 | milhouse | with /etc/init.d/syslog start (probably) |
| 21:04.51 | milhouse | or syslogd instead of syslog |
| 21:05.44 | Niacin | yea its aliased in /mnt/initfs/bin... |
| 21:05.47 | Niacin | to busybox |
| 21:05.51 | Niacin | but busybox doesnt see it |
| 21:05.58 | milhouse | did you install syslog? |
| 21:06.18 | milhouse | apt-get install syslog (i think) |
| 21:07.39 | Niacin | hmm i dont think its a package ;) |
| 21:07.44 | milhouse | it is |
| 21:07.54 | milhouse | maybe not syslog - try syslogd |
| 21:08.08 | milhouse | am just doing some checks to see if you need a special repository |
| 21:09.02 | milhouse | "apt-get install syslogd" should do the trick |
| 21:09.20 | Niacin | its not a package |
| 21:09.21 | Niacin | E: Couldn't find package syslogd |
| 21:09.26 | milhouse | hmmm |
| 21:09.50 | Niacin | what catalog addresses you have? |
| 21:10.09 | milhouse | i just checked it on an n800, i installed syslog _ages_ ago on my 770 |
| 21:10.17 | milhouse | but it's not to hand right now |
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| 21:10.36 | Niacin | ;\ |
| 21:10.37 | sbaturzio | Aloha! |
| 21:11.11 | Niacin | is there a better cmd then apt-cache search syslog ? |
| 21:11.20 | Niacin | like yum provides syslogd ? hhe |
| 21:11.20 | Niacin | heh |
| 21:14.17 | milhouse | obviously searching the new and improved maemo.org for information is a complete waste of time now - zero hits for "syslog" in mail archives |
| 21:14.21 | milhouse | :( |
| 21:18.09 | milhouse | Niacin: http://repository.maemo.org gregale free non-free |
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| 21:19.56 | Niacin | great thanks man |
| 21:19.59 | Niacin | worked |
| 21:20.01 | milhouse | cool |
| 21:26.36 | ericz | can i add a line in /etc/sudoers so that i can sudo from xterm with 'user' ? |
| 21:27.16 | ericz | or would that break anything? |
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| 21:29.22 | jpt9 | hey |
| 21:29.25 | jpt9 | i found the user dictionary |
| 21:29.40 | jpt9 | ~/.osso/hildon-input-method/.personal.dictionary |
| 21:29.46 | jpt9 | i have no clue what format the file is in, though... |
| 21:30.44 | jpt9 | any ideas? |
| 21:32.45 | milhouse | i suppose you could try deleting/zapping the files to see if you can start from scratch, but editing looks a bit tricky |
| 21:34.42 | milhouse | iPhone processor details - it's a nippy bastard: http://www.engadget.com/2007/07/01/iphone-processor-found-620mhz-arm |
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| 21:35.01 | milhouse | still don't know how the iPhone with that CPU can eek out 6 hours on WiFi |
| 21:35.09 | milhouse | when the N800 can manage only 4 hours |
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| 21:35.47 | milhouse | does that mean the iPhone has a much bigger battery (I'd buy a bigger battery for my N800 if one was available!) or that Nokia can do more to improve power management in OS 2007? |
| 21:36.46 | gla55_ | milhouse: on wifi doing what? |
| 21:36.54 | milhouse | ah, that's the question i suppose |
| 21:37.01 | gla55_ | theres also things like.. different screen |
| 21:37.38 | milhouse | me, surfing wikipedia (so far more reading than downloading) leads to about 4 and a bit hours of usage from a fresh charge |
| 21:38.03 | milhouse | i suspect the backlight sucks up a lot of juice, a small amount of cpu for scrolling and page loading, then the rest on wifi? |
| 21:38.08 | pupnik | must have brightness on high |
| 21:38.18 | milhouse | 75% |
| 21:38.20 | pupnik | on lowest brightness i was getting 8-10 hours |
| 21:38.28 | milhouse | i could try it lower i guess |
| 21:38.49 | milhouse | but still, the announced iPhone figures seem quite impressive but without context it's hard to compare |
| 21:40.58 | gla55_ | depends on wifi environment too you know |
| 21:41.19 | milhouse | yeah, will be interesting to find out some "real life" performance figures over the coming weeks |
| 21:41.48 | milhouse | I hope they _are_ good figures, as it means that Nokia can improve |
| 21:42.33 | ericz | AH! i keep opening my browser, and before the page even comes up, it closes.. |
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| 21:43.27 | pupnik | http://www.floridatreasure.net/pictures/ppics/iphoneboy.jpg |
| 21:43.37 | pupnik | nice - bloom county is back (iphone comic) |
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| 21:44.32 | ericz | ...what do i do |
| 21:45.01 | padrino | without putting a full toolchain together I am having a hard time finding libXmu.so.6 for my n770 (OS 2006). Could someone please point me to a binary? |
| 21:46.35 | pupnik | apt-get install libxmu6 ? |
| 21:47.18 | ericz | what's up with my browser |
| 21:47.21 | pupnik | oh nm - i have it compiled here padrino |
| 21:47.22 | ericz | im connected, i've rebooted |
| 21:47.24 | ericz | it keeps closing |
| 21:47.35 | ericz | what can i do |
| 21:48.56 | milhouse | ericz - anything in dmesg? |
| 21:49.04 | ericz | uh, i just unplugged the charger |
| 21:49.06 | ericz | and now it works? |
| 21:49.09 | ericz | coincidence, i bet |
| 21:50.03 | ericz | man, this thing is too weird, its working now.. no reason |
| 21:51.28 | ericz | whats the command in xterm to run the browser manually? |
| 21:51.35 | ericz | and will that output errors, if it happens again? |
| 21:51.45 | pupnik | good question |
| 21:54.43 | pupnik | browser.launch segfaults here and browser does nothing |
| 21:56.02 | padrino | pupnik, can you DCC, email, or send via another method you prefer? |
| 21:56.50 | pupnik | apt-cache search libxmu shows libxmu6 on my N770 with IT2007HE |
| 21:57.02 | pupnik | padrino: you should be able to run "apt-get install libxmu6" |
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| 21:57.28 | Xenon3DN | Booga booga. |
| 21:58.14 | Xenon3DN | Anyone know where to find the smbfs support for the 770 that smbbrowser requires? |
| 21:58.15 | Xenon3DN | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/smbbrowser/ |
| 21:58.18 | padrino | pupnik, I have all repos listed on Maemo along with a couple of other 3rd party ones and it is not in any of them. |
| 21:59.23 | pupnik | what OS? |
| 21:59.23 | padrino | padrino, I have found it in 2007 and I see some software that uses it in 2006 but I haven't found the library via a deb or standalone |
| 21:59.36 | padrino | pupnik, 2006 |
| 21:59.37 | pupnik | it2006/mistral? |
| 21:59.54 | padrino | pupnik, yes, using the rev it came with. |
| 22:00.26 | pupnik | :( |
| 22:01.22 | padrino | pupnik, should I upgrade? I took a look yesterday but didn't see a real beenfit in using HE. |
| 22:01.34 | pupnik | ah it's... well i dunno... |
| 22:01.38 | padrino | (only had the device one day) |
| 22:01.51 | pupnik | i'm looking at my libxmu and will see if i can make a deb for you |
| 22:02.01 | Xenon3DN | I'm in the same boat, padrino. You buys yours from buy.com? |
| 22:02.59 | padrino | Xenon3DN, Woot.. |
| 22:03.13 | Xenon3DN | Ahh. Think they both got stock of them at the same time. |
| 22:03.18 | padrino | pupnik, I'll take just the library.. |
| 22:03.30 | padrino | pupnik, no need to go through the trouble if you don't want to |
| 22:04.44 | pupnik | ah it wants a higher level of debhelper |
| 22:04.58 | Xenon3DN | Has anyone figured out how to mount an SMB filesystem on a 770 under 2006 OS? |
| 22:06.12 | pupnik | hmm dependencies also a problem |
| 22:07.47 | padrino | pupnik, ahh, maybe 2007 isn't a bad idea after all :) |
| 22:09.40 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/Netrek_0_01_tinyfont.jpg <<-- that game needs libxmu too |
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| 22:13.51 | pupnik | pokute: would you test it for me? i think i've got the dependencies fixed |
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| 22:26.12 | pupnik | http://rapidshare.com/files/40485907/libxmu6_1.0.2-2_armel.deb.html |
| 22:26.29 | pupnik | padrino: sorry got your nick wrong |
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| 22:33.26 | ttuttle | hey. |
| 22:33.34 | pupnik | hiya |
| 22:34.37 | ttuttle | is there a way to make a backup of my 770 that i could reflash to it if i needed, like with all my apps and stuff? |
| 22:34.52 | milhouse | only on to MMC |
| 22:36.06 | pupnik | Can i take a N800 motherboard and drop it in a 770 case? |
| 22:36.14 | padrino | pupnik, trying it now.. |
| 22:37.01 | ttuttle | milhouse: but i can't back up apps, just documents, right? |
| 22:37.17 | milhouse | pupnik: too big i'd have thought - you might need to chop off the right hand speaker... ;) |
| 22:37.33 | milhouse | ttuttle: using the standard backup tool, correct |
| 22:37.51 | milhouse | tuttle: if you want to "backup" your apps, the best you can do is dual boot from MMC |
| 22:37.54 | pupnik | stupid question milhouse |
| 22:38.10 | milhouse | however reinstalling apps isn't that difficult if you set up a web page with a list of one-click install links |
| 22:38.13 | pupnik | i'd just love the speed and memory of the n800 on the 770 |
| 22:38.34 | milhouse | pupnik - i too miss the 770 form factor and slide-on case :( |
| 22:38.43 | ttuttle | pupnik: mmm yeah... n770 rocks! |
| 22:38.58 | rhys | screen protector? |
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| 22:39.10 | milhouse | i think the N800 is pretty fugly to be honest, the next version needs a serious make over to compete with future devices (inc. the iPhone) |
| 22:39.25 | pupnik | I'm probably going to have grey hairs before someone makes a tablet that will replace my 770 |
| 22:40.18 | padrino | pupnik, Thanks.. I had a missing dependency with x11-common but ignoring it got it installed and it works.. |
| 22:40.46 | pupnik | ok i'll see if i can remove that - let me know if you run into any other issues, please |
| 22:40.56 | ttuttle | the n800 has second system syndrome... it's overengineered. and ugly. the 770 looks cooler. and i'm not just saying that because i have one ;-) |
| 22:41.38 | pupnik | Well everyone has different priorities but for me the 770 has a classic look that won't be emulated by anything again, imo |
| 22:42.17 | ttuttle | pupnik: exactly! |
| 22:42.32 | pupnik | and i really like how slim it is |
| 22:43.13 | Sho_ | milhouse: hm, totally different impression here: the n700 was pretty ugly and looking unfinished, like prototype hardware, and the n800 looks rather nice and slick |
| 22:43.15 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/aliens_nokia_onscreenbuttons.jpg <-- ttuttle, do those onscreen buttons look ok to you? |
| 22:43.20 | rhys | why do you need the n770s flipcovers? |
| 22:43.35 | rhys | whats wrong with a screen protector? |
| 22:43.53 | ttuttle | and wifi kicks the ass of cellular data, especially not 3G. coughiphonecough |
| 22:44.19 | milhouse | Sho_ - I think the N800 looks very dated while the 770 also looked dated it's muted colours and slide on case were quite stylish (industrial, if you will). |
| 22:44.52 | Sho_ | milhouse: like I said, I have about the opposite impression here :) |
| 22:44.52 | pupnik | At least they don't look like cheapo korean stuff |
| 22:44.59 | milhouse | rhys: do you own a 770? |
| 22:45.05 | ttuttle | rhys: er, a screen protector is not a solid barrier, and it mars the image. |
| 22:45.27 | rhys | no |
| 22:45.42 | milhouse | sho_ - yeah, it obviously appeals to some but I think Nokia can do much better in future |
| 22:45.46 | ttuttle | Sho_ is just sayingly |
| 22:45.53 | ttuttle | er, sayinged |
| 22:46.00 | ttuttle | ARGH! |
| 22:46.08 | milhouse | rhys - if you had a 770 you'd realise the versatily and function of the case cover - it was so much more than a screen protector |
| 22:46.16 | milhouse | although that was it's primary function of course :) |
| 22:46.17 | Sho_ | And isn't the slide-on thingie on the N770 simply annoying? |
| 22:46.25 | ttuttle | saying that because Sho_ has an 800. |
| 22:46.26 | milhouse | no, it was GREAT! |
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| 22:46.40 | milhouse | it put the device into sleep mode and took it out of sleep mode - like magic |
| 22:46.47 | Sho_ | ttuttle: Or maybe I have an 800 because the 770 didn't strike my fancy? ;) |
| 22:46.49 | milhouse | :) |
| 22:47.04 | milhouse | My N800 is so much less well protected than my 770 |
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| 22:47.10 | rhys | mine is coming tommarow. |
| 22:47.17 | milhouse | 770? |
| 22:47.44 | ttuttle | Sho_: maybe you're justifying the higher price to yourself... ;-) |
| 22:48.18 | ttuttle | rhys: congrats! |
| 22:48.19 | rhys | 85$ more didnt seem bad for the extra proc, ram and flash, plus flash 7 instead of 6. |
| 22:48.34 | Sho_ | ttuttle: IIRC the N770 was about the same when it came out |
| 22:48.40 | rhys | if i dont think its protected enough, out comes the rhino guard. |
| 22:48.41 | Sho_ | ttuttle: or even a little more |
| 22:48.44 | Dr_Nunim | the slide case is the best part of the 770. |
| 22:49.00 | pupnik | For me the n900 needs to be a n800 with better dpad, a sliding cover, and buttons on the right (and multi-button pressing) |
| 22:49.18 | milhouse | pupnik: and some style! :) |
| 22:49.33 | Sho_ | hm, if it has one of those ugly slide covers (I just hate having multiple parts ..) I'll probably not buy it :) |
| 22:49.41 | pupnik | Oh and better build quality. These mexican n800s are too often having problems |
| 22:49.43 | Dr_Nunim | It's so useful though. |
| 22:49.49 | Dr_Nunim | It's like, oh I'm done for now? |
| 22:49.49 | Sho_ | What the hell for? :) |
| 22:49.57 | milhouse | the good thing about the 770 cover was that you didn't have to use it :) |
| 22:49.59 | Dr_Nunim | Slide on cover, instant lock and offline mode. |
| 22:50.01 | pupnik | Sho_: you can leave the slide cover off |
| 22:50.05 | milhouse | it worked perfectly without it |
| 22:50.06 | gomiam | pupnik: what kind of probles? |
| 22:50.08 | gomiam | problems |
| 22:50.21 | gomiam | I have had no physical problems with my N800 |
| 22:50.44 | pupnik | this is just from internettablettalk.com forums. Dead areas on screen, other issues. Hard to say if there is *really* a quality-control problem or not |
| 22:51.02 | pupnik | so don't take this as defaming the n800 please |
| 22:51.53 | gomiam | no problem, pupnik. I'm just curious since I have one and I would like to know what could go wrong with it before it happens :-) |
| 22:51.56 | milhouse | Re: dead areas |
| 22:51.57 | ttuttle | oh- is there a way to disable the auto offline with the lid on? |
| 22:52.09 | milhouse | I noticed this bug of mine recently got aliased to an internal Nokia bug id: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1069 |
| 22:52.21 | milhouse | which maybe suggests a firmware fix is in the offing |
| 22:52.44 | milhouse | I had to get my N800 screen replaced |
| 22:52.54 | milhouse | due to lack of sensitivity (seems OK so far +2 months on) |
| 22:53.41 | milhouse | ttutle - yes, there's a checkbox in Connections if I recall correctly |
| 22:53.48 | ttuttle | what's the bug? |
| 22:54.01 | milhouse | it's about loss of sensitivity on N800s (read it :) ) |
| 22:54.08 | ttuttle | ok |
| 22:54.52 | milhouse | if you check the activity, it was assigned and aliased to Nokia ID #55922 on 28 June |
| 22:56.13 | ttuttle | milhouse: i don't see it. |
| 22:56.42 | milhouse | click the "View Bug Activity" link just above the first comment |
| 22:57.02 | milhouse | oh, the case option? doh |
| 22:57.08 | ttuttle | i meant the lid thing. |
| 22:57.15 | milhouse | yeah, i'm with you now... |
| 22:57.22 | milhouse | erm... it's in their somewhere |
| 22:57.38 | milhouse | maybe check Display (in Control Panel)? |
| 22:58.49 | milhouse | or Connectivity |
| 22:59.01 | ttuttle | milhouse: ah. problem is i'm running hacker, which thinks it's on an n800, which doesn't have the lid. |
| 23:01.40 | VimSi | ttuttle: and your 770 turns into offline-mode when you slid the lid on ?! |
| 23:01.50 | VimSi | slide |
| 23:01.56 | ttuttle | hmm, lemme try. |
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| 23:02.11 | VimSi | because mine doesn't |
| 23:02.33 | ttuttle | well, it turns the screen on and off. |
| 23:02.47 | VimSi | but the connections stay alive, right ? |
| 23:02.51 | Niacin | anyone managed to get bluetooth dun working with their cell phone? |
| 23:03.04 | ttuttle | Niacin: yes |
| 23:03.24 | Niacin | ttuttle: i'm having issues with mine and tmobile.. think you could lend a hand? :) |
| 23:03.38 | Niacin | i think its the ppp script + chatscript |
| 23:03.48 | Niacin | any chance you can pastebin.ca yours? |
| 23:03.51 | ttuttle | niacin: well i have cingular... |
| 23:04.01 | VimSi | /time |
| 23:04.03 | Niacin | well just a sample of the scripts would be great |
| 23:04.07 | milhouse | ttutle - aha! |
| 23:04.12 | Niacin | im sure i can tweak the tmobile stuff |
| 23:04.46 | Niacin | what phone are you using? |
| 23:04.54 | VimSi | gn8 |
| 23:05.24 | milhouse | Niacin - if it's a recent Windows Mobile phone you might be have a few problems... |
| 23:07.29 | gla55_ | the automatic gui thingy has works fine with most phones for setting up bt dun.. |
| 23:07.33 | gla55_ | worked |
| 23:07.40 | gla55_ | damn. should go to sleep I suppose. |
| 23:08.05 | milhouse | gla55 - true, but Win Mob 5 AKU3 dropped support for BT DUN entirely |
| 23:08.12 | milhouse | so if it's a WM5 AKU3... |
| 23:08.29 | milhouse | nice... Skype on N800 video http://youtube.com/watch?v=tInERBYH9JE |
| 23:09.22 | Tu13es | anyone know if the N800 has dropped below $360 on Amazon? |
| 23:09.28 | milhouse | arse, I take that back - Skype doesn't appear apart from the logo in the taskbar :( |
| 23:09.33 | milhouse | logo==icon |
| 23:10.44 | milhouse | no i'm wrong again, Skype makes an appearance about 40 seconds into the vid |
| 23:10.55 | gla55_ | hehe |
| 23:11.01 | gla55_ | nice, nice |
| 23:11.12 | pupnik | they finally ported skype to n800? |
| 23:11.22 | gla55_ | yeah |
| 23:11.33 | pupnik | that'll make a lot of people happy |
| 23:11.38 | milhouse | the people demonstrating sound oriental... |
| 23:11.56 | Niacin | na |
| 23:11.57 | milhouse | like Chinese maybe |
| 23:11.59 | Niacin | its a blackberry |
| 23:12.07 | Niacin | and it works fine in windows xp / vista / mac osx |
| 23:12.11 | Niacin | just not my 770 |
| 23:13.03 | rhys | wait |
| 23:13.05 | rhys | skype? |
| 23:13.52 | rhys | grr.. i hate skype. im just gonna get everyone to use gizmo. |
| 23:14.03 | milhouse | everyone I know uses Skype |
| 23:14.03 | brlancer | I should have gotten more n770s when I had the chance |
| 23:14.13 | brlancer | at the w00t price |
| 23:14.21 | pupnik | they're gone now? |
| 23:14.21 | milhouse | which is why GoogleTalk is of no value to me whatsoever |
| 23:15.28 | rhys | milhouse, the few people I know will use gizmo. |
| 23:15.35 | brlancer | milhouse: how does skype generate revenue? |
| 23:16.01 | milhouse | brlancer - a percentage of overseas calls? |
| 23:16.12 | milhouse | and maybe calls to landlines? |
| 23:16.20 | milhouse | i think skype-to-skype is 100% free |
| 23:16.38 | milhouse | people i know run their business over skype... |
| 23:16.46 | Niacin | buy.com has it |
| 23:16.47 | Niacin | http://www.buy.com/prod/nokia-770-internet-tablet-internet-tablet-2006-software-edition/q/loc/101/204081472.html |
| 23:16.50 | Niacin | $139 |
| 23:17.56 | brlancer | @xmas I had trouble with buy.com sitting on an "in stock" shipment |
| 23:18.24 | brlancer | I ended up ordering it elsewhere and trying to cancel buy.com's--which they "immediately" shipped and I couldn't cancel |
| 23:19.17 | Niacin | rfcomm0: 00:0F:86:A0:54:E2 channel 0 clean |
| 23:19.23 | Niacin | it binds fine... its gotta be the ppp script |
| 23:19.45 | brlancer | the n770 would make a good stereo component for "radio" |
| 23:26.05 | milhouse | Niacin - what phone is it? |
| 23:26.32 | milhouse | more importantly, what OS |
| 23:26.35 | Niacin | blackberry 8700 |
| 23:26.36 | milhouse | is on the phone |
| 23:26.42 | milhouse | ah, BB have issues too |
| 23:26.48 | Niacin | works fine one all other OS's |
| 23:26.49 | Niacin | ;\ |
| 23:26.59 | Niacin | with no drivers... just standard bluetooth DUN |
| 23:28.06 | milhouse | at least, I thought blackberries were a little iffy |
| 23:28.19 | ttuttle | anyone know a good site for tv listings that works well on the 770/800? or an app? |
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| 23:30.06 | milhouse | does the BlackBerry 8700 support Bluetooth DUN? |
| 23:30.44 | ttuttle | is abiword for the 770 stable? |
| 23:31.17 | Dr_Nunim | Anyone know a good UK vendor for the 770? |
| 23:31.24 | Dr_Nunim | The one that someone linked to was out of stock until the 15th. |
| 23:32.35 | Niacin | milhouse not directly... i have an app loaded that gives you dun support |
| 23:32.42 | Niacin | works fine on all OS's i have tried |
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| 23:33.47 | milhouse | Dr Nunim - expansys is the cheapest so far, is that who you mean are out of stock (stock arriving 14 July) |
| 23:33.59 | Dr_Nunim | Yeah. |
| 23:34.11 | Dr_Nunim | My UK friend wants one after seeing that I got one from woot. |
| 23:34.16 | milhouse | Amazon UK have the 770 in stock for £169 *with* Nav kit |
| 23:34.18 | Dr_Nunim | First I told him to try here and next buy.com |
| 23:34.21 | Niacin | gonna try on my centos machine |
| 23:34.26 | Dr_Nunim | Buy.com won't ship to the UK for some silly reason. |
| 23:34.30 | milhouse | (it's more expensive WITHOUT the Nav kit!) |
| 23:34.51 | Dr_Nunim | lol |
| 23:35.04 | Dr_Nunim | Yeah but it looses it's budget item value at $169 |
| 23:35.21 | milhouse | £169 not $169 :( |
| 23:35.32 | Dr_Nunim | I don't have that key. |
| 23:35.33 | Dr_Nunim | :p |
| 23:35.40 | milhouse | ah, of course |
| 23:35.46 | Dr_Nunim | I ment that though. |
| 23:35.49 | milhouse | think it would be ALT-something for you :) |
| 23:35.51 | Dr_Nunim | Do you guys have a $ key btw? |
| 23:36.00 | milhouse | ‡ê |
| 23:36.43 | milhouse | ALT-0163 :) |
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| 23:38.13 | jpt9 | Anyone know a good tv listings site that works well on opera on a n770? |
| 23:40.28 | KaylaKaze | local or general network? |
| 23:40.34 | KaylaKaze | (listings, that is) |
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| 23:41.10 | jpt9 | local antenna listings |
| 23:41.44 | milhouse | Niacin - your BB issue, are you on Cingular/AT&T? |
| 23:41.49 | jpt9 | hopefully something light on graphics |
| 23:42.17 | Dr_Nunim | http://www.mobileplanet.com/p.aspx?i=141019&partner=froogle |
| 23:42.21 | Dr_Nunim | whoops |
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| 23:43.08 | Dr_Nunim | They seem to be a expansys sister company |
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