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| 01:21.45 | edt | will the next os/flash drop add codecs to mediaplayer? |
| 01:22.25 | edt | its current set is rather limited.... |
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| 03:04.12 | unique311 | wheres that tutorial to make the mouse cursor visible? |
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| 05:09.38 | pupnik | unique311: you copy a cursor file over another cursor file |
| 05:10.11 | unique311 | i know... |
| 05:10.20 | unique311 | i remember their was a tutorial.. |
| 05:10.44 | pupnik | maybe googling cursor+synergy or pointer+synergy |
| 05:10.45 | unique311 | i have little surprise for synergy also... |
| 05:10.58 | unique311 | gui'fied.. |
| 05:11.07 | unique311 | trying to hildon a bit.. |
| 05:11.12 | unique311 | not alot of src files.. |
| 05:11.18 | unique311 | but it looks good right now. |
| 05:11.51 | unique311 | want a pre? |
| 05:12.10 | pupnik | no i am dealing with other things |
| 05:12.41 | unique311 | cool |
| 05:12.59 | pupnik | another idea if you're working on synergy. one could enable the cursor only when synergy is running |
| 05:13.41 | pupnik | by copying or linking in the standard x pointer when it starts up, and changing it back when synergy gets killed |
| 05:13.49 | unique311 | that might be possible with the gui.. |
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| 08:34.02 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 08:40.38 | tweg | hi all, i am trying to play an m4a file using gstreamer like so: gst-launch filesrc location=something.m4a ! demux3gp ! dspaacsink |
| 08:40.56 | tweg | i get some sound out, but the sound is choppy |
| 08:41.06 | tweg | (cpu usage is low) |
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| 08:41.22 | tweg | anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? |
| 08:44.49 | tweg | (the file plays fine using the Media player app) |
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| 09:44.27 | sbaturzio | Aloha! |
| 09:46.33 | tweg | (the above problem) solved! (after much trial and error): |
| 09:46.51 | tweg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:47.54 | BlueGene | hola a todos alguien habla espa?ol? |
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| 10:51.16 | BlueGene | Could somebody say me if the offer of N800 in 99 euros is ready, please? |
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| 10:53.03 | c0ffee | it's over, BlueGene |
| 10:54.57 | pupnik | anybody have a good czech/english translator? |
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| 11:00.36 | BlueGene | c0ffee could you explain me it? |
| 11:02.29 | BlueGene | c0ffee when maemo start the offer? |
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| 11:06.22 | c0ffee | the offer started january 2007 and ended february 2007 |
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| 11:14.56 | BlueGene | :( |
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| 12:37.58 | pupnik | i just met two guys in a political channel who happened to get free 770s from Nokia |
| 12:38.02 | pupnik | how strange is that :) |
| 12:48.20 | Mikho | free 770s from Nokia? |
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| 12:50.31 | mbuf | hi, installed scratchbox .debs on Debian Etch manually, /usr/bin/scratchbox cannot be run as user as it says Permission denied; it is owned by root |
| 12:50.53 | mbuf | following these instructions: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/bora/INSTALL.txt, and http://www.scratchbox.org/documentation/user/scratchbox-1.0/html/installdoc.html |
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| 12:58.23 | zuh | mbuf: Is it owned by the group sbox and have you added the user to scratchbox with /scratchbox/sbin/sbox_adduser? |
| 12:59.11 | mbuf | zuh that step i haven't done yet |
| 12:59.30 | mbuf | zuh, it is confusing with two isntall guides |
| 12:59.37 | mbuf | *install |
| 13:00.01 | mbuf | zuh, i did sb-adduser shaks, is it the same thing? |
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| 13:01.43 | zuh | possibly... That's probably just a wrapper for the one I pointed out. Like the /usr/bin/scratchbox is a wrapper for /scratchbox/login. |
| 13:02.16 | mbuf | zuh, i tried it as root, #/scratchbox/sbin/sbox_adduser user, it says, user account already exists |
| 13:02.42 | zuh | Maybe you didn't add the user to the sbox group? |
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| 13:03.21 | zuh | The sbox_adduser does that only optionally, but AFAIK it's needed anyway |
| 13:03.27 | mbuf | zuh, user is part of sbox group |
| 13:03.48 | zuh | And the /usr/bin/scratchbox is owned by that group? |
| 13:04.03 | jonnylamb | If you've just added your user to sbox group, you need to log out, and back in again. |
| 13:04.08 | mbuf | zuh, no, it is owned by root |
| 13:04.16 | keesj | Hi |
| 13:05.27 | mbuf | jonnylamb, gotcha, had to logout and login, thanks |
| 13:07.20 | jonnylamb | mbuf: No worries. This is no sbox thing btw. If you ever add a user to a group, that user must log back in (if he or she was already logged in) for changes to take place. (at least on Gnu-based OS's). |
| 13:08.01 | mbuf | jonnylamb, i see |
| 13:10.03 | Sho_ | btw: is it legal to edit /home/use/.osso/menus/applications.menu by hand, or will the package manager roll over and die during uninstallation if it doesn't find the entries there? I assume the applications.menu is generated post-install from the .desktop files, but I'd rather not find out the hardware whether I'm wrong ;) |
| 13:10.17 | Sho_ | *the hard way |
| 13:10.24 | Sho_ | (freudian mega-typo ..) |
| 13:11.24 | keesj | Sho_: I don't know what the applications.menu is supposed to do |
| 13:12.08 | keesj | on the maemo website there is a lot of docs and refs about the .desktop files , I think that they don't need to live in the users' home dir |
| 13:12.09 | Sho_ | keesj: It seems to contain the folder structure of the menu and the application entries, as references to .desktop files |
| 13:12.25 | Sho_ | keesj: Basically I want to move some of the entries around |
| 13:12.37 | Sho_ | (because my "Extras" menu has gotten uncomfortably long) |
| 13:12.56 | keesj | the "official" way is to change the symlinks somehwere in /etc |
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| 13:14.54 | mbuf | sb-conf: No such devkit: debian, i have installed scratchbox-devkit-debian_1.0.8_i396.deb already |
| 13:15.37 | keesj | 1.0.8 ? that is pretty recent |
| 13:15.54 | keesj | and what is i396? |
| 13:16.04 | mbuf | keesj, that is a type, its 386 |
| 13:16.17 | mbuf | *typo |
| 13:17.59 | zuh | Sho_: The .menu under the home dir is totally legit file to tinker with (provided that you don't break the syntax of course ;), that's what the control panel plugin does |
| 13:18.14 | Sho_ | zuh: There's a control panel plugin to edit the menu? |
| 13:18.30 | Sho_ | That sounds like something I might be interested in ;) |
| 13:20.11 | zuh | Yes, it's titled something like "panels" IIRC. It's the one with the icon that looks like a button. |
| 13:20.32 | zuh | When you open that you'll see a "organize menus" button |
| 13:22.03 | zuh | Which opens up a dialog for modifying the menu with drag and drop (and which has invisible rules against directly moving certain items, which makes no sense at all to me...) |
| 13:23.51 | Sho_ | zuh: It's a third-party add-on though, right? |
| 13:24.17 | zuh | No |
| 13:24.29 | zuh | It's included on the device |
| 13:25.29 | mbuf | if i am missing this file, /scratchbox/packages/maemo-sdk-rootstrap_3.1_i386.tgz, what did i miss in the steps? |
| 13:26.38 | mbuf | urgh, forgot to copy the files |
| 13:27.11 | Sho_ | zuh: ah, "Navigation" it is, along with "Organize favorites" |
| 13:27.27 | zuh | Uh, it was so cryptic? |
| 13:27.34 | unique311 | anybody in here use synergy with their NIT |
| 13:28.00 | zuh | At least in finnish it talks about "panels", but "navigation" makes no sense at all :) |
| 13:29.13 | unique311 | if you do, i found a nice GUI app to make using it less of a hassle....compile with no issues... |
| 13:29.40 | Sho_ | zuh: Much better now -- thanks! |
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| 13:41.28 | henkt | any body knows the best tutorial for beginers of python ? |
| 13:41.57 | lmoura | henkt, do you mean python for maemo or 'pure python'? |
| 13:43.57 | melmoth | http://docs.python.org/tut/ |
| 13:44.03 | melmoth | _THE_ tutorial |
| 13:46.49 | melmoth | once you are confident with the main python tutorial, dig maemo specific:http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/python_maemo_3.x_howto.html |
| 13:48.31 | henkt | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.36 | lmoura | melmoth, there's an updated version at pymaemo.garage |
| 13:48.37 | lmoura | http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/documentation/pymaemo_tutorial/python_maemo_howto.html |
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| 13:53.46 | mbuf | alright, setup Maemo without Internet connectivity on laptop, phew, manual install takes time |
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| 13:59.05 | mbuf | thanks all |
| 14:03.37 | henkt | can I test now with few codes of python conectivity of internet from my maimo plat form |
| 14:03.59 | henkt | any body advice me such sample code ? |
| 14:04.34 | lmoura | henkt, there are some examples in the python-conic |
| 14:04.48 | lmoura | I don't think they're exported in the package |
| 14:05.13 | lmoura | you can get them here: https://garage.maemo.org/svn/pymaemo/packages/python-conic/trunk/tests/ |
| 14:10.06 | henkt | ok tanks lmoura,I will check them out |
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| 14:11.47 | Blacksito | hi |
| 14:15.44 | henkt | lmoura, I got the following meassage when I run test_connect.py |
| 14:15.48 | henkt | [sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > ./test_connect.py |
| 14:15.48 | henkt | connect(): |
| 14:15.49 | henkt | python2.5[6556]: GLIB DEBUG ConIc - con_ic_connection_send_event(0x80ed408, (null), (null), 1) |
| 14:15.49 | henkt | connection_cb(<conic.Connection object (ConIcConnection) at 0xb7cc40a4>, <conic.ConnectionEvent object (ConIcConnectionEvent) at 0xb7cc40cc>, aa55) |
| 14:15.49 | henkt | (DISCONNECTED (None, None, 1, 0) |
| 14:16.20 | lmoura | oh, I forgot to mention. They just work on the device |
| 14:16.25 | lmoura | :) |
| 14:16.36 | henkt | :( |
| 14:16.53 | henkt | how do I get the one I can test on PC |
| 14:17.08 | lmoura | while developing it, I had to edit/compile/package in the desktop and switch to the device |
| 14:17.20 | lmoura | well, I don't know if it's possible :( |
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| 14:18.12 | lmoura | (and as I was playing with the connectivity, I had to use the device's terminal, no ssh...) |
| 14:18.13 | henkt | I read in maemo tutorial that it is posible to test atlist internet conection but the rest can not be tested unless it is on device |
| 14:18.41 | henkt | but may not neccesarly be on python. may be on c or... |
| 14:19.22 | Al | hello there |
| 14:20.07 | henkt | lmoura, ru there |
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| 14:20.32 | lmoura | I'm cheking the connectivity guide |
| 14:20.40 | henkt | okey |
| 14:20.43 | lmoura | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_connectivity_guide_bora.html |
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| 14:22.52 | lmoura | henkt, I didn't find any mention to using the connectivity while on scratchbox =\ |
| 14:23.00 | Al | sorry guys, and girls, of course... someone have any idea how to put short cut on n800 desktop |
| 14:23.51 | henkt | lmoura, wait let me show you |
| 14:24.10 | pupnik | hi Al, no. i start apps through the menu |
| 14:25.37 | henkt | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html#internet |
| 14:25.50 | henkt | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.13 | Al | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.58 | lmoura | henkt, I think he means: "You can access internet from scratchbox, but you cant play with the connectivity API..." |
| 14:27.20 | unique311 | anybody want the QuickSynergy deb? |
| 14:29.34 | Al | sorry, but i m using the n800 only for 2 days i m very noooobbbssss |
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| 14:31.17 | melmoth | Al look on gargae i think there is such an application startup laucnher or something that ley you have 'icons' on the desktop |
| 14:32.43 | melmoth | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/simple-launcher/ |
| 14:32.48 | melmoth | I guess it the above one |
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| 14:35.00 | Al | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.43 | unique311 | peace out.....movie time.... |
| 14:38.47 | Al | see you soon my dears... I m gooing to install some ulty on my little nokia... have a nice evening.. |
| 14:39.29 | henkt | tanks, lmoura |
| 14:40.28 | Sho_ | I wonder if anybody has ever tried running the free 'Evaluation Kit' of Opera 9 for Devices, which is available for Linux/ARM, on the N800 .. :-) |
| 14:40.32 | lmoura | henkt, no problem |
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| 14:43.03 | Pr370r14n0 | hi everyone! |
| 14:43.19 | Pr370r14n0 | anybody succesfull working the usb-host-mode in n800?? |
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| 16:04.10 | Hyperion|n800 | has any one had truble getting apt-get to update properly lately? |
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| 16:22.51 | keesj | Hyperion|n800: I alway's have :p , usualy it's a repo that died |
| 16:26.52 | Hyperion|n800 | ya i tkink abiword was my offender this time |
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| 20:12.24 | pupnik | is it can be raep time? |
| 20:17.07 | pupnik | Songs To Drink and Drive By - http://www.archive.org/download/csr001/2-13-TZL.mp3 |
| 20:18.55 | livingtm_ | Is it possible to use an IDE on the host, and host it compile in scratchbox? I'd like to use kdevelop, but obviously i need hildon libs that are going to be scratchbox-specific |
| 20:20.19 | pupnik | maybe you just need to apt-get source kdevelop within the scratchbox armel environment |
| 20:20.23 | pupnik | and compile it |
| 20:20.35 | pupnik | but ... sheesh k-anything is a pig |
| 20:20.44 | livingtm_ | wont I think be limited to the xepher window? |
| 20:20.49 | pupnik | yes |
| 20:20.57 | livingtm_ | and the maemo environment |
| 20:21.15 | pupnik | some guys ported kde to the tablet |
| 20:21.24 | pupnik | it's an evil bad lame sick idea though |
| 20:21.37 | livingtm_ | hm |
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| 20:21.51 | pupnik | you know what i use? |
| 20:21.52 | pupnik | vi |
| 20:21.55 | livingtm_ | hehe |
| 20:22.03 | livingtm_ | its more the build management that im interested in |
| 20:22.07 | pupnik | and LOTs of windows |
| 20:22.08 | pupnik | ah |
| 20:22.16 | livingtm_ | cause im not really well versed in writing my own makefiles |
| 20:22.20 | livingtm_ | maybe im just being lazy |
| 20:22.35 | pupnik | oh build environments are scary and scary |
| 20:22.50 | pupnik | i look at packages and get the horrors all the time |
| 20:23.14 | pupnik | but then you start to fight through the jungle |
| 20:23.16 | jonnylamb | Being able to write ones own Makefiles is a skill one will never regret! |
| 20:23.39 | pupnik | i can write makefiles, this is not the issue |
| 20:24.00 | pupnik | porting real apps is schwboaaang! |
| 20:24.04 | jonnylamb | pupnik: I was actually talking to livingtm_ :P |
| 20:24.22 | livingtm_ | jonnylamb, yeah i agree |
| 20:24.29 | jonnylamb | The GNU/Make manual is actually managable too.. |
| 20:24.32 | livingtm_ | i was spoiled by visual studio |
| 20:24.52 | livingtm_ | to what extent is automake "auto"? |
| 20:25.04 | livingtm_ | isnt that what the dpkg-buildpackage uses? |
| 20:25.10 | jonnylamb | Eugh! I moved over to Linux before it took control over me! |
| 20:25.19 | livingtm_ | jonnylamb, lucky :-) |
| 20:25.24 | jonnylamb | Err those tools are very different.. |
| 20:25.24 | livingtm_ | and it was VB too.... |
| 20:26.29 | jonnylamb | Automake compiles the program; dpkg-bp creates a Debian package based on yet more make rules in debian/rules.. |
| 20:26.29 | livingtm_ | jonnylamb, I built the maemopad example using the dpkg method, seemed simple enough |
| 20:26.39 | livingtm_ | then i tried to debianize my own package... |
| 20:26.46 | suihkulokki | alp? |
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| 20:27.02 | suihkulokki | or any other maemo/mono guy awake? |
| 20:27.14 | jonnylamb | livingtm_: Heh, I feel a 'but' coming on! |
| 20:27.17 | livingtm_ | and started building my 3 file project by hand :-) |
| 20:27.31 | livingtm_ | caus eit was just easier that way |
| 20:30.51 | livingtm_ | Im try to write a tiny little project in C++ with TCP sockets.. is there a recommended tcp socket library that is appropriate for this platform? |
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| 20:55.35 | rhsanborn | anyone know of an image manipulation package that can be run via script that will run on the 800? I'm looking for something that will take images off a mem card and shrink then so that they are asier to upload to an online gallery |
| 20:56.31 | melmoth | imagemagick |
| 20:56.43 | melmoth | you may have to port it though |
| 20:56.52 | rhsanborn | melmoth, thanks, will look into it |
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| 21:15.10 | jga23 | using pymaemo, is there any way to import a pyd? I get an importerror |
| 21:18.15 | melmoth | a what ? |
| 21:19.41 | jga23 | .pyd file |
| 21:21.08 | melmoth | i dont even know what it is :) i have met pyc and pyo |
| 21:21.32 | melmoth | but i never try to use those , directly. I import the py ones. |
| 21:22.19 | jga23 | basically I'm tring to get http://uche.ogbuji.net/tech/4suite/amara/ to work on my n800 |
| 21:24.17 | melmoth | hey, it says it support 'python setup.py install' installation |
| 21:24.26 | melmoth | it then should be failry easy to make a .deb out of it |
| 21:24.50 | melmoth | http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/documentation/pymaemo_tutorial/python_maemo_howto.html#link26 |
| 21:25.11 | jga23 | all I did was copy the directories from my site-packages on my computer to the one on the n800 |
| 21:25.24 | jga23 | worked for simplejson...didn't for amara |
| 21:25.35 | melmoth | well, do stuff the right way. |
| 21:25.39 | jga23 | hah, ok |
| 21:25.41 | melmoth | use scratchboxn and build a .deb. |
| 21:26.07 | melmoth | or, to go faster, on the n800 try out python2.5 setup.py install /somewhere/handy |
| 21:26.32 | melmoth | then add /somewhere/handy in the python path (import sys then sys.path.append("/somewhere/handy") |
| 21:26.45 | melmoth | but i never try out python setup stuff on the n800 directly |
| 21:28.19 | jga23 | is there a way to set up the scratchbox on a windows box? |
| 21:28.55 | melmoth | wmware |
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| 21:35.08 | melmoth | kga23 https://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemovmware/ |
| 21:35.16 | melmoth | s/kga23/jga23/ |
| 21:38.31 | jga23 | great, thanks |
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