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| 01:57.17 | livingtm | Is it possible to test network connected apps from within scratchbox? |
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| 02:20.05 | unique311 | -04 is not supported by arm compiler |
| 02:20.23 | unique311 | ? |
| 02:21.01 | pupnik | O not 0 |
| 02:21.48 | pupnik | livingtm: yes scratchbox has networking |
| 02:22.45 | unique311 | solved the issue i had yesterday... |
| 02:23.10 | unique311 | fltk was acting not too manly<---politically correct term... |
| 02:23.26 | unique311 | followed some of your old log comments pupnik.. |
| 02:23.36 | unique311 | about apt-get source fltk |
| 02:23.38 | pupnik | i said something useful? |
| 02:23.47 | pupnik | :) |
| 02:23.49 | unique311 | which was actually apt-get source fluid |
| 02:23.54 | unique311 | compiled the source |
| 02:24.00 | unique311 | and it worked nicely |
| 02:24.05 | unique311 | 1.1.7 |
| 02:24.10 | pupnik | cool |
| 02:24.21 | unique311 | and the filebrowser issue pose was giving me is fixed now. |
| 02:24.38 | unique311 | but i'm trying to compile the new build with optimize flags.. |
| 02:25.13 | unique311 | but read that 03 and 04 should be stayed away from when compiling for ARM |
| 02:26.39 | unique311 | 04 is just not supported..and 03 tends to make larger binaries |
| 02:26.49 | unique311 | so 02 or 0s |
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| 02:32.34 | unique311 | i know |
| 02:32.38 | unique311 | O |
| 02:32.42 | unique311 | O3 |
| 02:32.44 | unique311 | ok |
| 02:32.46 | unique311 | Ok |
| 02:33.02 | pupnik | well it's not going to make a huge difference either way - but it's fun to try out |
| 02:34.43 | pupnik | pose is gonna be a huge win though |
| 02:34.56 | pupnik | think of all the palm users who would buy a n800 if they could run their old stuff |
| 02:35.22 | unique311 | ok... |
| 02:35.29 | unique311 | so i'll compile with O2 |
| 02:36.02 | pupnik | in fact, it usually doesn't yield noticeable differences |
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| 02:37.19 | unique311 | next question.. |
| 02:38.04 | unique311 | would like to make a deb pack that actually unpacks in application manager instead of using dpkg -i in terminal.. |
| 02:38.15 | unique311 | how I go about doing that... |
| 02:39.08 | pupnik | there's files in the debian subdirectory that need tweaking so the OS version matches |
| 02:40.16 | unique311 | which file is that? |
| 02:40.21 | unique311 | its like 8 in there |
| 02:40.28 | pupnik | don't remember... control or rules |
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| 02:41.57 | unique311 | should be control |
| 02:44.19 | pupnik | Meat Beat Manifesto - "Original Control" |
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| 03:53.25 | pupnik | try it out |
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| 03:59.04 | pupnik | rwhitby: you can grab unique311's build off the ITT forum link |
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| 04:09.53 | unique311 | working on the skin..m130....will put alot of work into it...before next release...issue with roms&skins. m130 is a little small... |
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| 04:10.18 | unique311 | open with gimp or preferred app, and scale image size to 720x420 |
| 04:12.32 | pupnik | ? |
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| 04:17.27 | unique311 | not sure |
| 04:17.37 | unique311 | i dl the skin pack from divshare.. |
| 04:17.47 | unique311 | and had issues when i started the m130 |
| 04:17.55 | unique311 | it was small |
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| 04:27.38 | pupnik | hmm |
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| 04:30.03 | pupnik | then edit your ITT post to point to the fixed skin |
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| 05:39.40 | pupnik_ | pupnik is a total idiot. can't finish his mods to Ur-Quan masters. Can't get drpocketsnes ported. He sucks. |
| 05:39.49 | pupnik_ | oh oops |
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| 06:45.56 | N800 | gotta love those geico cavemen can do it commercials.... |
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| 09:27.33 | Jaffa | who |
| 09:27.35 | Jaffa | ^/ |
| 09:32.40 | pupnik | how |
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| 10:06.07 | sbaturzio | Aloha! |
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| 10:55.46 | SeRi_zZZz | Is there any way to uninstall canola? |
| 10:56.33 | melmoth | should work with apt-get remove |
| 10:56.47 | SeRi_zZZz | nope |
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| 10:57.11 | melmoth | what is the command line you used, and the error message you get ? |
| 10:58.09 | SeRi_zZZz | I get no error it uninstalls the packege or so it claims but it still stay in the system fully functional |
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| 10:58.34 | SeRi_zZZz | look here for more details |
| 10:58.36 | SeRi_zZZz | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=53497#post53497 |
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| 10:59.29 | melmoth | this is freaking awful ! |
| 10:59.49 | melmoth | Sounds like the soft install itself with a lots of cp as a post install task in the deb file. |
| 11:00.06 | melmoth | so, dpkg does not know wich files belong to it |
| 11:00.35 | melmoth | really sounds like an guly way of packaging stuff. And as canola is not open source, we do not have access to the source deb to check it out, do we ? :) |
| 11:00.54 | pupnik | glad i never installed it |
| 11:00.56 | SeRi_zZZz | Not that I know off... This sux! :( |
| 11:01.13 | melmoth | big style |
| 11:01.33 | SeRi_zZZz | yeap |
| 11:02.27 | SeRi_zZZz | I am going to wait for the next firmware release before I have to reflash |
| 11:03.04 | SeRi_zZZz | this sux... damn canola.... I am going to try and find a way... if I do ill keep u guys up to date |
| 11:03.21 | SeRi_zZZz | peace I am going back to sleep :P |
| 11:03.26 | SeRi_zZZz | G/N |
| 11:03.32 | SeRi_zZZz | and Thanks for the help! |
| 11:04.06 | melmoth | I wonder if you can know the post install stuff with dpkg-deb show stuff |
| 11:04.24 | melmoth | and from there guess wich file have been installed (if i m right it just cp stuff on postinstall) |
| 11:04.37 | melmoth | good night :) |
| 11:07.18 | pupnik | anybody bored and want a nice project? :) |
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| 11:17.09 | pupnik | http://reesy.gp32x.de/DrPocketSnes.html |
| 11:17.24 | pupnik | http://wiki.gp2x.org/wiki/DrPocketSNES |
| 11:17.38 | pupnik | DrPocketSNES is a fullspeed SNES emulator. Reesy combined the current SquidgeSNES with the renderer of PocketSNES and now we've got an SNES Emulator that runs most games fullspeed (with some framskip) with sound at 250 MHz - INCLUDING transparencies and partial SuperFX chip support! |
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| 12:33.27 | acydlord | anyone planning to run ubunty gutsy on their N800 when it comes out? |
| 12:33.43 | N800 | I |
| 12:33.56 | N800 | why? |
| 12:34.07 | acydlord | was just reading an article on it |
| 12:34.31 | acydlord | i'm interested to see how well it runs on an embedded system |
| 12:35.19 | N800 | when they release gutsy they are releasing the embedded version of ubuntu correct, or is gutsy the embedded version.. |
| 12:35.44 | N800 | i think thats what i remember reading. |
| 12:37.43 | acydlord | gutsy will be available for embedded also |
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| 12:38.22 | acydlord | i'm wondering if they are going to have an arm option for every version after now |
| 12:40.03 | Jaffa | acydlord: AFAIK there's nothing which says Gutsy will have an N800 port |
| 12:40.40 | Jaffa | acydlord: UME will be available as part of the Gutsy release, but that doesn't mean either a) ARM or b) an N800 version |
| 12:41.08 | acydlord | it's been shown on one of the sony arm devices |
| 12:41.24 | edt | SeRi_zZZz I suspect that you could reinstall canola and then use find to get the files updated/added by the install. Then you could use dpkg, vi and rm to remove it. |
| 12:41.55 | acydlord | guess we'll know for sure in a few months |
| 12:47.05 | edt | acydload it would be very interesting it nokia could be persuaded to use gutsy as the base for the N series boxes - might be possible IF it would save nokia money on os development. They could have a large influence on it direction by having payed devs working on it... |
| 12:47.58 | koen | heh |
| 12:48.33 | koen | when ubuntu says 'embedded' they actually mean 'no 8" screen, 40GB harddisk, 1GB of ram' |
| 12:48.59 | koen | s/no// |
| 12:50.26 | Jaffa | Cor, blimey - when did infobot arrive? |
| 12:50.33 | Jaffa | i.e. UMPCs etc. |
| 12:50.45 | Jaffa | acydlord: You're not talking about the P990i SE phone are you? |
| 12:51.17 | Jaffa | Now, UME on an Asus Eee PC could be very interesting :) |
| 12:53.13 | acydlord | i still love how UMPC's are anything but ultra mobile |
| 12:54.00 | N800 | well if ubuntu can't install on the N800, I am definitely going to be trying out angstrom |
| 12:55.07 | N800 | the dude that brings us enlightenment is working on a port for the N800...plus plus plus |
| 12:55.49 | N800 | lol |
| 12:55.51 | acydlord | ew, fox newscorp is trying to get a monopoly going online it looks like |
| 12:55.54 | N800 | should be fun |
| 12:56.22 | edt | I am surprised just how well the n800 is able to use its 128M, I do have swap enabled - do not think it has ever had to use it... |
| 12:56.27 | koen | Jaffa: but it will be eye-candy fun ;) |
| 12:57.47 | Jaffa | very true |
| 12:57.51 | pupnik | ubuntu tastes like lindows |
| 12:58.23 | Jaffa | koen: iPhone-like eye candy good |
| 12:58.27 | Jaffa | pupnik: ? |
| 12:59.08 | pupnik | <- debianisti |
| 12:59.41 | Jaffa | Ah, so you don't like things easy to use, regularly released, accessible to new comers and with little to no viing in /etc ;-) |
| 12:59.42 | pupnik | (debianazi?) |
| 12:59.54 | Jaffa | Debianista, I'd say ;) |
| 13:00.06 | pupnik | yeah that's it |
| 13:00.25 | N800 | debianette |
| 13:00.29 | N800 | maybe |
| 13:00.53 | pupnik | no, there needs to be a martial connotation |
| 13:01.47 | N800 | hey we speaks english in these parts.....no need for the fancy stuff |
| 13:02.01 | pupnik | btw Jaffa, sidux addresses those issues very well |
| 13:02.46 | Jaffa | pupnik: but then that's just as much Debian as Ubuntu is, surely? |
| 13:03.12 | pupnik | no, it's pure sid with daily fixes, automagic upgrades |
| 13:03.30 | Jaffa | Ah, OK |
| 13:04.08 | pupnik | though ubuntu still gets the nod for real noobs |
| 13:10.14 | bilboed | is there a maemo-compatible frontend for MPD ? |
| 13:17.02 | acydlord | man, what is with all the good female hosts leaving the vodcast news sites |
| 13:17.19 | acydlord | first amanda leaves rocketboom, now karina leaves mobuzz |
| 13:21.25 | acydlord | i'll be back later, i've got some work to do |
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| 13:32.41 | N800 | hmmm 20 seconds and the app shuts off |
| 13:32.50 | N800 | quits |
| 13:57.14 | pupnik | http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6954 |
| 13:58.28 | pupnik | surely someone here wants to be l33t and cool and a porting hero? |
| 13:59.27 | pupnik | fame, fortune, and scores of groupies? |
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| 14:10.59 | edt | what n800 program understands vodcasts? |
| 14:12.58 | pupnik | 16:08 < val-o-alto> I remember when win(lose)95 came out -- one of the guys at the school said "oh look, it's Motif." |
| 14:23.43 | Sho_ | Hum, now I have that SDict Viewer app but sdict.com is down for more than a week |
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| 14:44.08 | guardian | hello maemo |
| 14:51.12 | Jaffa | edt: none, really |
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| 15:21.28 | unique311 | pupnik: want to add me to the dev list for POSE |
| 15:21.46 | unique311 | so i can upload all the stuff I did today... |
| 15:21.50 | unique311 | working nice... |
| 15:22.24 | unique311 | need the keyboard once and thats to right click on that first screen on startup... |
| 15:23.03 | unique311 | after that right click via the fullscreen key works... |
| 15:23.11 | unique311 | new skins.. |
| 15:23.21 | unique311 | well not new...just worked on some more.. |
| 15:25.39 | unique311 | oh and it both FLTK and POSE install via the APPLICATION MANAGER. |
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| 15:27.55 | pupnik | i am not finding the link to add new members |
| 15:28.00 | pupnik | try sending a request-to-join |
| 15:29.20 | unique311 | k |
| 15:29.39 | pupnik | pretty strange |
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| 15:30.24 | unique311 | submitted |
| 15:31.55 | pupnik | what's your username |
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| 15:36.50 | unique311 | unique311 |
| 15:37.07 | unique311 | sorry for the delay..typing a post for ITT |
| 15:39.09 | pupnik | ok done |
| 15:41.55 | pupnik | By using JIT technology (dynamically generated code at runtime), video scaling is now a lot faster (up to 8x factor) in the recently released mplayer_1.0rc1-maemo.8 version. |
| 15:42.12 | pupnik | i missed that... crazy stuff |
| 15:42.30 | unique311 | new version.. |
| 15:42.31 | unique311 | nice |
| 15:42.51 | pupnik | no 5 months old, but i missed that note |
| 15:43.27 | unique311 | i cannot submit news unless admin.. |
| 15:43.28 | pupnik | that's really nuts. i thought JIT was only useful for emulators |
| 15:43.37 | unique311 | so when i'm done with the ITT post.. |
| 15:43.45 | unique311 | you check it out...and write the news.... |
| 15:43.50 | derf | pupnik: You obviously haven't been doing graphics very long. |
| 15:44.21 | melmoth | why do i not find any esdsink in gst-inspect-0.10 output ? |
| 15:44.27 | derf | It's just like the 386/486 days. |
| 15:44.55 | pupnik | ok umm. lets see. i wrote demos for some of the first 2d accelerated pc cards in 87. ergo wrong conclusion |
| 15:46.08 | derf | And you don't remember everyone writing dynamically generated bitmap blitting code? |
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| 15:49.19 | unique311 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/unique0nez/?saved=1 |
| 15:49.25 | unique311 | the new skins.. |
| 15:49.37 | unique311 | nothing that new about them.. |
| 15:50.33 | unique311 | can see the minor changes... |
| 15:52.26 | pupnik | ok i'll cheak |
| 15:52.44 | pupnik | derf, no i never did any video |
| 15:54.44 | pupnik | if nokia had just sold more units, we'd have real programmers porting the apps i want :P |
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| 15:56.58 | MoRpHeUz | where do you get more themes for maemo ? =) |
| 15:58.01 | pupnik | google knows |
| 15:58.59 | MoRpHeUz | pupnik: he may know, but he doesnt know if a theme is good or not...this is why I'm asking for suggestions.. |
| 15:59.00 | MoRpHeUz | =) |
| 16:01.23 | pupnik | http://thememaker.garage.maemo.org/Themes.html |
| 16:04.52 | MoRpHeUz | thank you... |
| 16:05.08 | MoRpHeUz | all I was looking were that themes at garage... (not so good) =( |
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| 16:06.44 | MoRpHeUz | hhmm...just aqua theme is different.. |
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| 16:06.54 | pupnik | there are graphical theme makes now. might be fun to try making your own |
| 16:11.29 | MoRpHeUz | pupnik: yeah...I'm just so bad doing that hehe |
| 16:11.40 | MoRpHeUz | maybe I'll try =D |
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| 17:06.51 | melmoth | anybody here fluent with gstreamer ? |
| 17:07.15 | melmoth | i m wondering why are all the sink present in the tabler not there on scratchbox ? |
| 17:07.54 | melmoth | the only way i found to play with it , is thus to code directly in the n800 (i m using python luckyli, so no compilation needed) |
| 17:08.05 | melmoth | but it s a _pain_, i have no emacs anymore :( |
| 17:17.32 | unique311 | pupnik you have the pre release file saved on you computer? |
| 17:17.59 | unique311 | I made a mistake..and kind of deleted it. |
| 17:40.34 | unique311 | the device listed in the /dev directory mmcblk0 is the SD cards |
| 17:40.37 | unique311 | ?? |
| 17:42.23 | melmoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.24 | unique311 | ok |
| 17:43.36 | unique311 | seeing if i can get pose to mount it.. |
| 17:43.44 | unique311 | theirs an option to mount devices.. |
| 17:45.14 | unique311 | seems its for communication... |
| 17:45.37 | unique311 | serial, IR |
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| 21:34.07 | sbaturzio | Aloha! |
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