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| 00:35.52 | adoyle | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ModifyingRootImage does not work |
| 00:36.03 | adoyle | Nor http://maemo.org/intro/roadmap.html |
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| 06:06.42 | inz | Damn touchpad... I just accidentally deleted one maemo-developers email from gmail spam folder :/ |
| 06:06.59 | inz | /me wants a touch screen on laptop too ;) |
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| 06:28.29 | konttori | Morning! |
| 06:28.43 | konttori | I need some help with python & gtk |
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| 06:29.10 | konttori | How can I make gtk refresh the screen? |
| 06:30.01 | konttori | I tried adding short sleep to the app, but that didn't help |
| 06:34.27 | inz | gtk refreshes the screen during main loop |
| 06:35.14 | inz | In C you can handle any pending events with: while (gtk_events_pending()) gtk_main_iteration(); |
| 06:35.29 | inz | I'm guessing you can do that in python too |
| 06:38.11 | inz | just replace the first underscore with period |
| 06:38.52 | unique311 | konttori, mapping the skin was easy actually... |
| 06:38.55 | melmoth | konttori, if you are doing something that is I/O intensive (such as downloading a file...), you have to do it in a separate thread |
| 06:39.02 | melmoth | otherwise, your app will feel frozen |
| 06:39.04 | konttori | Really? |
| 06:39.08 | melmoth | really |
| 06:39.13 | unique311 | did 2 skins..the palmV and the m180 |
| 06:39.15 | konttori | Damn. |
| 06:39.24 | melmoth | well, that s in pure gtk..May be a dbus call to a download script ? |
| 06:39.27 | inz | melmoth, not necessarily, asynchronous I/O can be done too |
| 06:39.34 | unique311 | uploading a video now...i have screenshots..will upload those to flicker |
| 06:39.56 | melmoth | mhh, oh yes, with gnome-vfs there are some async file transfert commande possible |
| 06:40.45 | inz | I think gnome-vfs uses threads, but anyway ;) |
| 06:41.11 | konttori | melmoth: thanks for the info. I just hoped there was an easier way. |
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| 06:41.32 | konttori | damn, that stings. |
| 06:41.40 | inz | Asynchronous stuff tends to take a bit more effort, but then again threads can (will) bite you too ;) |
| 06:45.29 | unique311 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/unique0nez/ |
| 06:45.37 | unique311 | here's screenshots... |
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| 06:49.01 | unique311 | on youtube...a quck search for N800 running palm OS 4.1 wiil bring up the video.. |
| 06:49.29 | konttori | unique311: really nice |
| 06:49.35 | konttori | congrats! |
| 06:49.54 | unique311 | thanks...pupnik should be here for this. |
| 06:49.58 | unique311 | his project.... |
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| 06:50.26 | unique311 | not sure if i should package it up... |
| 06:58.59 | rwhitby | unique311: please do package it up |
| 07:00.02 | unique311 | i'll try to get it done by morning.... |
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| 07:08.59 | zuh | unique311: didn't find the video, you don't happen to have the url for it? |
| 07:10.20 | unique311 | hold on |
| 07:12.12 | unique311 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPF19gypbGo |
| 07:14.58 | zuh | thanks |
| 07:15.16 | unique311 | np |
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| 08:01.12 | rwhitby | unique311: are you packaging the whole pose, or just your skins? If the latter, do you have a url for the rest of the pose application? |
| 08:02.11 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
| 08:08.35 | gpd | FYI: mediatomb works well with canola as UPnP server |
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| 08:11.45 | sbaturzioAtWork | Aloha! |
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| 08:17.59 | *** topic/#maemo is maemo is the application development platform for the Nokia Internet Tablets | Good questions deserve better answers | http://maemo.org | irc logs at http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/ | https://garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770/ | http://www.flickr.com/groups/maemo/ |
| 08:20.32 | konttori | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1647/UKMP-1.3-uktube.deb |
| 08:20.39 | konttori | There! |
| 08:21.06 | konttori | Now, bear in mind that it's mostly a proof of concept, but it should serve as a nice tool as well. |
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| 08:33.54 | rwhitby | konttori: I just happen to have rwhitby-n800 running x-chat, so I can download that directly from the x-chat session there :-) |
| 08:34.19 | konttori | https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1647/UKMP-1.3-uktube.deb |
| 08:34.25 | konttori | http://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1647/UKMP-1.3-uktube.deb |
| 08:34.38 | konttori | It's there - ready for consumption. |
| 08:34.53 | konttori | Bundled with ukmp 1.3 as I didn't have the time to make a separate package. |
| 08:35.21 | rwhitby | got a handle url you know works? |
| 08:38.01 | rwhitby | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 |
| 08:41.15 | rwhitby | konttori: does it save the video somewhere, so you have play it again while you're offline? |
| 08:41.45 | konttori | mmc1 |
| 08:41.46 | konttori | root |
| 08:42.15 | konttori | All youtube urls should work |
| 08:42.40 | rwhitby | I'm testing that one above right now |
| 08:42.51 | gpd | looks genious: only problem is taht google maps cache takes up all the space on my 2G car |
| 08:43.10 | konttori | gpd. maybe you need to have 2 cards. And swap every once in a while. |
| 08:43.39 | gpd | right now I am ignoring the problem by not leaving the house and using UPnP :D |
| 08:43.58 | konttori | If you want a little smaller clip. try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZrr7AZ9nCY |
| 08:44.04 | konttori | that's 6 mb |
| 08:46.37 | gpd | anyone know a fancy system to sync random songs or playlists to an sd card or other location? |
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| 08:49.18 | rwhitby | konttori: can you do the same magic for google videos? |
| 08:49.43 | konttori | I don't know. probably. |
| 08:49.54 | gpd | konttori: do I need to restart to rescan media cards? |
| 08:50.08 | konttori | nope? |
| 08:50.08 | gpd | konttori: also, is there a way to exclude dirs from the scan? |
| 08:50.22 | konttori | It will exclude dir titled: Maps |
| 08:50.35 | konttori | So, put everything you don't want scanned in there. |
| 08:50.55 | gpd | hmm.. all my maps are in Cache :( |
| 08:50.56 | konttori | Anyway, it'll make a db of your files, so after first start it'll be quite fast. |
| 08:51.05 | rwhitby | konttori: how do I replay something that has been downloaded earlier? |
| 08:51.10 | gpd | Genius use of the + and - buttons for volume btw! |
| 08:51.14 | konttori | otoh: if you have maemo mapper maps, put them to a folder called: Maps |
| 08:51.22 | konttori | rwithby: open mplayer |
| 08:51.27 | konttori | they'll be in the list |
| 08:51.42 | konttori | gpd: thanks! |
| 08:52.02 | gpd | ok copied a folder of music: found and running -- loving it :D |
| 08:52.04 | rwhitby | konttori: ah, I guess I need to install mplayer separately :-) |
| 08:53.12 | rwhitby | anyone got a handle url for mplayer download? |
| 08:54.18 | gpd | konttori: I would expect the pause to switch to play image as a former mac user |
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| 08:55.13 | gpd | hmm. maybe just a little buggy as it does it sometimes but not others |
| 08:55.53 | konttori | gpd: it is sometimes a bit buggy. |
| 08:56.04 | gpd | konttori: so how do i initiate a rescan? |
| 08:56.13 | konttori | Open it again |
| 08:56.21 | konttori | rwithby: http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2007/06/uktube-smooth-playback-of-youtube-files.html |
| 08:56.24 | gpd | ok - so restart the app, no problem |
| 08:56.44 | konttori | There is instructions on uktube install. |
| 08:56.48 | konttori | it includes mplayer install link |
| 08:57.00 | gpd | I'd say the exit button isn't obvious if I were to comment on such a minor thing |
| 08:57.06 | konttori | Made it while we were discussing, so sorry for idling |
| 08:57.34 | AD-N770 | good morning |
| 08:58.53 | gpd | konttori: fantastic work all round: some other comments if you care... |
| 08:59.07 | konttori | sure! |
| 08:59.26 | gpd | as I often listen to very long tracks (2hrs) it would be nice to have the option of a progress slider: but i realize this is painful / no light |
| 09:00.19 | konttori | yeah. been thinking about it to be included at some point |
| 09:00.44 | konttori | did you notice that there is a seek functionality (keep dpad pressed right /left) |
| 09:01.08 | gpd | just noticed the D-pad in general : very good addition |
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| 09:04.11 | gpd | konttori: I am having difficulty faulting it! great app - your work is very much appreciated. If you have plans for UPnP support then you will be my hero forever! |
| 09:04.35 | konttori | I am collaborating with coherence guys on making that happen |
| 09:04.39 | konttori | I hope it does. |
| 09:04.57 | konttori | It's just that this is all for free and I have only so much time in a day to do pro bono work. |
| 09:05.17 | konttori | perhaps nokia could subsidise me ;) |
| 09:05.20 | gpd | of course! and canola fills that gap so not really necessary: don't want the kitchen sink |
| 09:05.55 | gpd | I need to think about an app that will allow me to sync a folder of music to the N800 with a daily selection of tunes |
| 09:06.53 | konttori | use itunes. works wonderfully for me |
| 09:07.33 | gpd | itunes smart playlists? syncing to where? |
| 09:07.55 | gwak | http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/2007/06/middle-management-sandwich.html |
| 09:08.11 | konttori | I'm using party list set to large enough size, then press the recreate party list and I then copy those songs to the device |
| 09:08.59 | gpd | nice idea: will try it |
| 09:10.33 | rwhitby | konttori: nice work on uktube. works for me perfectly. |
| 09:10.45 | konttori | rwithby. great to hear that! |
| 09:10.55 | rwhitby | I'll be able to watch the linus git video on the bus home thanks to you :-) |
| 09:11.16 | konttori | Great! And thanks to you I'm listening to it right now. |
| 09:12.03 | `0660 | that was an entertaining video :) |
| 09:12.08 | konttori | Anyway, a really good youtube player could be derived from that uktube proof of concept app |
| 09:13.50 | konttori | But, I hope that app will suffice for a while. |
| 09:15.11 | rwhitby | konttori: any idea if there would be a way for the click and hold in the browser to give an option to pass the url to uktube? |
| 09:16.03 | konttori | someone could make a opera plugin |
| 09:16.37 | `0660 | is it possible to make plugins in opera? |
| 09:18.20 | `0660 | probably not :/ |
| 09:20.15 | konttori | it is possible |
| 09:20.23 | konttori | flash is a plugin in there |
| 09:20.35 | konttori | and so is the nokias real media tool |
| 09:21.19 | konttori | I'm making a video example in a sec. |
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| 09:27.07 | c0ffee | leo beduerfnisse |
| 09:27.12 | c0ffee | hups |
| 09:27.14 | c0ffee | ignore that |
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| 09:40.17 | Anidel | good morning guys |
| 09:58.09 | gwak | does anybody know what nokia does with the Semantic Web site? |
| 09:58.27 | gwak | http://sw.nokia.com/ |
| 10:05.17 | konttori | I just uploaded demonstration video of UKTUBE to youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy-SGsItwPA |
| 10:05.46 | konttori | <spam>Everyone! Download!!!!! </spam> |
| 10:07.54 | gwak | do not taunt the show video button ;-] |
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| 10:09.09 | gwak | here is a spoof of the ms surface thing |
| 10:09.11 | gwak | Event:http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/clips/microsoft-surface-the-parody-270782.php |
| 10:09.31 | konttori | I was just watching that in the demo video. It's a good one. |
| 10:14.33 | konttori | hmm.. odd.. It's not on planet maemo rss feed |
| 10:14.35 | osfameron | heh |
| 10:14.38 | konttori | the blog I mean |
| 10:14.41 | osfameron | though acutally, I think the table idea isn't taht bad |
| 10:14.53 | konttori | nope. good things about the idea. |
| 10:15.07 | konttori | it's just not revolutionary, and not worth 10k |
| 10:15.17 | gwak | i agree, i think it would be great to to have at pub |
| 10:15.29 | konttori | ok, it may ed up being revolutionary. bt not worth 10k. |
| 10:16.00 | X-Fade | konttori: The cool thing is, that it isn't a touchscreen.. |
| 10:16.05 | gwak | i like the idea of setting you mobile phone on the display |
| 10:16.17 | konttori | yeah. we have a media wall here in helsinki that works in the same way. |
| 10:17.05 | konttori | http://citywall.org/pages/about |
| 10:17.08 | X-Fade | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXBbi0gWuCg Touchlight is also nice.. |
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| 10:17.41 | konttori | For those of you using uktube, here is youtube link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkNq3cYGTPE |
| 10:18.15 | konttori | Now, isn't it wonderfull that finally those with 3g connections and 800 can actually see those youtube links that are so persistent these days? |
| 10:18.52 | konttori | anyway, the wall in helsinki is using projector and is much larger than the example video in that youtube clip |
| 10:23.22 | konttori | X-Fade: looks nice! |
| 10:29.51 | konttori | ahh.. rss feed has been updated. uktube link is now there. |
| 10:41.57 | konttori | rwithby: If a plugin to opera was possible, it would be great to just modify all youtube areas on pages to buttons that say play in fullscreen. |
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| 10:47.46 | konttori | Good article on dvelopment practices: http://www.scottberkun.com/blog/2007/asshole-driven-development/ |
| 10:48.06 | konttori | I like the: Development By Denial (DBD) |
| 10:48.22 | konttori | must be part of quite a few projects out there |
| 10:49.15 | konttori | Oh! I just realized I'v been in a company that practiced: Not allowed to do development (NADD) |
| 10:49.49 | konttori | Back in the days they outsourced the developemnt to some big cosulting agencies, who didn't either have any developers around |
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| 11:00.08 | perror | hi all... I'm getting some problems connecting to a WPA/EAP/TLS network. When I need to select certificate to use, I get only the "None" option although I have registered the certificate in the certificate manager (for "Authorities"). Any hints, ideas are welcome. ^_^ |
| 11:01.01 | konttori | sounds odd that you registered it as authorities |
| 11:01.16 | konttori | authorities means that they are allowed to create certificates |
| 11:01.30 | konttori | I think you should install the certificate to another location |
| 11:01.52 | perror | Hmmm. And install it as "user"... |
| 11:02.03 | konttori | maybe |
| 11:02.06 | perror | I give this a try. Thanks ! ;) |
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| 11:05.33 | pupnik | hi unique311 |
| 11:07.14 | pupnik | acydlord: AD-N770 derf gla55 JussiP keesj koen konttori kulve MDK_ mgedmin sbaturzioAtWork sxpert timeless tigert tko |
| 11:07.18 | pupnik | :P |
| 11:07.23 | konttori | ? |
| 11:07.33 | pupnik | just saying hi |
| 11:07.49 | konttori | pupnik: try the uktube. It rocks! |
| 11:08.01 | pupnik | even on a 770? |
| 11:08.06 | konttori | YEah |
| 11:08.07 | unique311 | yo |
| 11:08.08 | konttori | http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2007/06/uktube-smooth-playback-of-youtube-files.html |
| 11:08.09 | unique311 | stranger |
| 11:08.18 | pupnik | sweeet |
| 11:08.22 | unique311 | i solved the issue with pose |
| 11:08.35 | unique311 | well not completetly |
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| 11:09.52 | pupnik | what issue |
| 11:09.53 | unique311 | i was definitely not looking forward to packaging it up...want to package it up pupnik... |
| 11:10.06 | unique311 | http://www.flickr.com/photos/unique0nez/ |
| 11:10.19 | unique311 | instead of going fullscreen... |
| 11:10.55 | pupnik | hey double size |
| 11:11.07 | unique311 | modified the skin file to move the touchscreen and buttons to setup with a customized skin file.. |
| 11:11.10 | unique311 | yes |
| 11:11.19 | pupnik | nice |
| 11:11.41 | unique311 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPF19gypbGo |
| 11:12.56 | unique311 | have 2 custome skins so far the m505 and the m130 |
| 11:13.27 | pupnik | hows text entry on teh n800 |
| 11:14.37 | unique311 | descent... on on the notepad.. |
| 11:14.44 | unique311 | well actually good.. |
| 11:14.53 | unique311 | had to work on the graffiti area... |
| 11:15.06 | unique311 | so abc and 123 could be chosen.. |
| 11:15.23 | unique311 | only discrep on the 2 skins i did.. |
| 11:15.28 | florian | hi all |
| 11:15.34 | unique311 | but all the buttons are mapped.. |
| 11:15.40 | unique311 | which is good.. |
| 11:15.59 | unique311 | pretty much did a 720x420 skin. |
| 11:16.02 | pupnik | http://youtube.com/watch?v=67fFDiPRsrk human trebuchet / new transportation |
| 11:17.12 | unique311 | so will you make a deb file now? |
| 11:17.19 | pupnik | no |
| 11:17.22 | unique311 | the project is yours on maemo. |
| 11:17.27 | unique311 | aww man.. |
| 11:17.30 | pupnik | i don't have the source |
| 11:17.34 | pupnik | i mean the skin |
| 11:18.20 | unique311 | i have them...think i worked on them all day to just keep for self... |
| 11:18.51 | pupnik | hey i like the blue one too |
| 11:19.51 | pupnik | no sorry |
| 11:20.13 | pupnik | yeah it would be great to put it into a package for garage |
| 11:20.56 | pupnik | this is great news unique311 |
| 11:21.07 | pupnik | good work |
| 11:21.33 | unique311 | it just work... |
| 11:22.02 | unique311 | i |
| 11:22.10 | unique311 | i'll pack it up.... |
| 11:22.31 | unique311 | it'll be a good learning experience. |
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| 11:22.57 | unique311 | was suppose to have it this morning...but fell asleep on a video i was watching last night.. |
| 11:23.00 | pupnik | the black skin on flickr looks great |
| 11:23.11 | unique311 | the m130 |
| 11:23.21 | unique311 | OS4.1 |
| 11:23.23 | pupnik | yeah |
| 11:23.32 | unique311 | palmV uses OS4.0 |
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| 11:23.47 | unique311 | got a couple of apps installed and running.. |
| 11:23.57 | unique311 | HostFS works... |
| 11:24.12 | unique311 | looking for a way to make it pick up SD card... |
| 11:24.22 | pupnik | hmm |
| 11:24.39 | unique311 | guessing the SD card needs to be formatted fo this... |
| 11:24.51 | gla55 | hmm |
| 11:25.01 | unique311 | i have extraz..a little reseatch on that will not take long. |
| 11:25.07 | gla55 | shouldn't it just be fat? |
| 11:25.19 | gla55 | if it accesses it directly |
| 11:25.30 | unique311 | never own a palm.. |
| 11:25.38 | unique311 | well i did...long time ago.. |
| 11:25.52 | unique311 | 2002 version years of palm |
| 11:27.19 | unique311 | when i click on card info...it displays no Card inserted.. |
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| 11:28.13 | gla55 | i had a tungsten a while back |
| 11:28.31 | gla55 | the sd card read just fine in a card reader iirc as fat.. |
| 11:28.52 | gla55 | on that particular model scummvm didn't run though |
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| 11:31.43 | pupnik | have you tried unique311's new version gla55 ? |
| 11:32.45 | unique311 | i didn't share the .skin and the jpegs file yet pupnik. |
| 11:33.09 | unique311 | i wanted to at least package pose up before doing so. |
| 11:33.13 | gla55 | pupnik: no |
| 11:34.11 | unique311 | if i fail at doing so, then i will just tar everything up and upload it and share it.. |
| 11:37.40 | inz | http://flickr.com/photos/9114076@N03/580364131/ |
| 11:38.01 | inz | (the screenshot is taken and uploaded with MH Shot tool ;) |
| 11:38.16 | unique311 | that i like |
| 11:41.10 | konttori | inz: very nice!! |
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| 11:44.04 | tigert | inz: yay! |
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| 11:46.15 | inz | Gotta flash a fresh bora to se if it works on N800 |
| 11:46.29 | inz | Or if I have to recompile for it |
| 11:46.36 | inz | (already in mistral repository) |
| 11:47.38 | inz | The UI is shitty.. I wanted to make it a dialog, but it just doesn't work :( |
| 11:48.17 | inz | Or then I should've used the mobile profile, that might actually work better. |
| 11:48.48 | acydlord | i'm waiting for my torrents to finish so i can get the bora sdk again |
| 11:49.05 | acydlord | realized i never downloaded it when i did this recent debian install lol |
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| 12:07.07 | inz | feh, need to rebuild... |
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| 12:16.10 | inz | http://www.flickr.com/photos/9114076@N03/580478803/ now it runs on n800 too ;) |
| 12:16.17 | inz | http://maemo-hackers.org/mh-shot-tool.install |
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| 13:18.04 | henkt | I lost my /scratchbox/tools/bin/env file |
| 13:18.17 | henkt | any help? |
| 13:19.32 | pupnik | you have a backup? |
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| 13:28.20 | henkt | am not sure |
| 13:28.32 | henkt | am a bit new for this environement |
| 13:29.14 | pupnik | i don't have a scratchbox machine here, so i can't check |
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| 13:34.55 | ian_brasil | hi...anyone can give a very quick explanation for the difference between the 'home' 'task navigator' or 'statusbar' options when creating a hildon desktop plugin |
| 13:35.38 | pupnik | henkt, either setup another scratchbox target or reinstall one somewhere |
| 13:35.42 | inz | ian, 'home' goes to the "desktop", visible only when no other windows open |
| 13:35.55 | inz | ian, 'task navigator' goes to the bar on the left |
| 13:36.04 | inz | ian, and 'statusbar' goes to the bar on top |
| 13:36.45 | ian_brasil | excellent...thanks very much |
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| 13:55.38 | henkt | pupnik, I dont want to install maemo again |
| 13:59.38 | henkt | will Xephyr has to be re installed also? if I remove and install scratch box? |
| 14:02.37 | pupnik | no |
| 14:03.23 | pupnik | if you do it in kvm / vmware it makes backups/snapshots easy, but beware, it can lead to large drive images |
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| 14:13.42 | henkt | so what I do now? |
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| 14:22.34 | aruiz | hi there |
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| 14:22.51 | aruiz | does anyone knows how to setup a WPA instead of WEP enabled key for the N800? |
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| 14:24.30 | gla55 | only ever used wpa-psk |
| 14:25.48 | henkt | pupnik, r u there? |
| 14:25.55 | pupnik | jawohl |
| 14:26.22 | pupnik | i don't know whether that file is part of the scratchbox target |
| 14:26.28 | pupnik | or if you need to reinstall scratchbox |
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| 14:32.38 | henkt | I am going to install scratchbox-core |
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| 14:37.30 | henkt | pupnik, can u tell me the steps to install scratchbox-core-1.0.7-i386.tar.gz |
| 14:37.50 | pupnik | you can tar xzvf scratchbox-core* |
| 14:38.15 | pupnik | then find . -name env in that directory |
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| 14:38.22 | pupnik | or use konqueror or something to find your missing file |
| 14:38.24 | pupnik | i think :0 |
| 14:38.59 | henkt | ok let me check |
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| 14:50.29 | henkt | hi, pupnik, it works now tanks a lot |
| 14:59.24 | pupnik | :) |
| 15:03.00 | henkt | I wanted to run helloworld written with python on maemo platform |
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| 15:03.30 | henkt | after I make the file "hello_world_1.py" executable |
| 15:04.02 | henkt | when I run run-standalone.sh ./hello_world_1.py |
| 15:04.07 | henkt | it says |
| 15:04.33 | henkt | /scratchbox/tools/bin/env: python2.5: No such file or directory |
| 15:05.42 | henkt | any idea? |
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| 15:07.07 | pupnik | does your hello_world_1.py have #! python2.5 in the first line? |
| 15:07.49 | henkt | it is #!/usr/bin/env python2.5 |
| 15:09.05 | pupnik | do you have python 2.5 installed? |
| 15:09.19 | pupnik | i don't think it comes with scratchbox |
| 15:09.28 | henkt | I think so. how to check |
| 15:10.22 | pupnik | apt-cache policy python2.5 |
| 15:10.39 | henkt | on scratch box or outside scratchbox ? |
| 15:10.42 | pupnik | python2.5: Installed: (none) |
| 15:10.45 | pupnik | inside sb |
| 15:10.51 | pupnik | i don't have it installed |
| 15:12.10 | henkt | it said W: Unable to locate package python2.5 |
| 15:12.42 | pupnik | i think some people have made packages for python2.5 but they are not in the standard repository |
| 15:12.56 | pupnik | google maemo and python2.5 |
| 15:13.21 | pupnik | http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/pymaemo25_releasenotes.html |
| 15:15.55 | henkt | I downloaded two .install files Base repository Python 2.5 installer |
| 15:16.08 | henkt | what I do next |
| 15:18.21 | pupnik | ok you can dpkg -i *.deb |
| 15:18.25 | pupnik | whatever deb file you got |
| 15:18.40 | pupnik | you might have to add them in a certain order. usually libraries (lib*) first |
| 15:18.52 | pupnik | i have no experience with python though |
| 15:19.13 | pupnik | it will inform you of any missing dependencies |
| 15:25.16 | henkt | dpkg: error processing kerez_0.0.2-1_armel.deb (--install): |
| 15:25.16 | henkt | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.16 | henkt | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 15:25.16 | henkt | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:25.43 | pupnik | ok that means you are in the i386 target |
| 15:25.54 | pupnik | scratchbox can run in several different 'targets' |
| 15:25.57 | henkt | but i did it out side sb |
| 15:26.06 | pupnik | oh |
| 15:26.45 | pupnik | well those .deb files must be installed on a 770/800 or within the scratchbox 'armel' target |
| 15:26.58 | pupnik | this is an environment that emulates the cpu of the nokia |
| 15:27.58 | henkt | ok |
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| 15:29.45 | henkt | am on [sbox-SDK_X86: ~] now |
| 15:35.42 | pupnik | yeah you need to use sb-menu to switch to sb-arm or sb-armel |
| 15:35.53 | pupnik | if you have set it up |
| 15:38.49 | henkt | when i enter sb-conf select SDK_ARMEL |
| 15:39.00 | henkt | it ask me to close x |
| 15:39.01 | pupnik | ah yes |
| 15:39.09 | henkt | x86 |
| 15:39.28 | henkt | how to close it |
| 15:39.51 | pupnik | isn't sb-conf outdated? i forgot |
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| 15:40.30 | henkt | I thik sb-conf or sb-menu both work |
| 15:44.07 | pupnik | i think scratchbox wants you to close other login sessions |
| 15:44.18 | pupnik | you can have multiple logins to scratchbox targets |
| 15:44.22 | henkt | yes I couldnt |
| 15:46.00 | henkt | sb-conf: You must close your other Scratchbox sessions first |
| 15:46.10 | henkt | hm.. |
| 15:46.54 | pupnik | yeah "exit" or Ctrl-d |
| 15:51.10 | henkt | then it will get out form scratchbox |
| 15:53.27 | henkt | when I log in to sb inistally, it gose to [sbox-SDK_x86:~] |
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| 15:56.50 | henkt | okey cio then will try to change my target and install python |
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| 17:10.47 | unique311 | after changing my routers ip address....scratchbox apt-get update worn't work.. |
| 17:10.54 | unique311 | the net works fine.. |
| 17:11.17 | unique311 | but when i run apt-get update doesn't seem to want to work.. |
| 17:11.39 | unique311 | 4% [Connecting to repository.maemo.org] [Connecting to catalogue.tableteer.noki[ |
| 17:11.42 | unique311 | thats all |
| 17:11.45 | unique311 | i get |
| 17:12.57 | unique311 | hmmm just tried wget and thats not working either |
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| 17:13.32 | unique311 | Resolving ftp.debian.org... failed: Host not found. |
| 17:13.38 | unique311 | help me howard |
| 17:14.00 | b0unc3 | unique311: take a look at /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf |
| 17:16.01 | unique311 | thanks.. |
| 17:16.08 | unique311 | stuck on that default 1.1 |
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| 17:21.55 | Andy80_ | hello |
| 17:22.23 | Andy80_ | an OT question :\ anyone of you has a copy of Nokia Software Update for N-Series older than 1.3.83 ? |
| 17:23.16 | gla55 | o O |
| 17:23.19 | gla55 | why? |
| 17:25.01 | Andy80_ | because the latest version is bugged |
| 17:25.09 | Andy80_ | and I cannot update my N73 |
| 17:25.15 | Andy80_ | it says "Phone not supported" |
| 17:25.25 | Andy80_ | while the old version has alway worked fine |
| 17:27.10 | gla55 | is there a newer firmware then for your product code? |
| 17:27.23 | gla55 | it's possible to change the product code too with some trouble |
| 17:27.42 | Andy80_ | I currently have 2.x firmware... |
| 17:27.52 | Andy80_ | and I know that 3.0705.* is available |
| 17:28.05 | Andy80_ | the product code... is not a problem ;) the problem is NSU :( |
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| 17:31.31 | Andy80_ | I'm going to eat something, see ya later... ps: gla55: if you have an older version of NSU it would be great if you could send it to me :) |
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| 17:34.12 | gla55 | don't seem to have download folders for that far |
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| 17:56.15 | pupnik | mmm the archos 605 looks nice -- 800x480 screen |
| 17:56.28 | pupnik | starts at $229 |
| 17:56.41 | pupnik | wifi, opera... |
| 17:57.03 | gla55 | yeah not half bad |
| 17:58.14 | jani | quite cheap.. |
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| 17:58.35 | acydlord | yeah, i saw that bugger on engadget |
| 17:58.51 | acydlord | has anyone played with the maemo webkit? |
| 17:59.21 | jani | just read the project page, i think it said that its still in planning phase ? |
| 17:59.34 | acydlord | ahh |
| 17:59.38 | gla55 | seems so |
| 17:59.42 | gla55 | would be a nice project |
| 17:59.50 | gla55 | i dunno why nokia hasn't pushed it |
| 18:00.12 | acydlord | i keep shotting myself in the foot on projects, 2 of the main projects i was working on got put on hold for awhile thanks to APIs being changed on me |
| 18:00.21 | gla55 | they're very disconnected teams.. nokias web guys and maemo.. thats what the nokia web fellow said anyhow |
| 18:00.34 | acydlord | indeed |
| 18:00.52 | acydlord | i wish the people on the nokia end would push the industry a bit better |
| 18:01.01 | acydlord | they've got the financial backing |
| 18:01.36 | acydlord | i wascracking up the other day by the comment of one of the nokia heads about touch screen technology |
| 18:01.51 | acydlord | saying that they don't see people wanting it on mobile devices yet |
| 18:02.26 | gla55 | such a question depends highly on the context.. |
| 18:02.28 | jani | webkit or what? |
| 18:02.34 | gla55 | if it was about mobile phones |
| 18:03.00 | acydlord | i believe it was something about the iphone challenging current smart phones |
| 18:03.04 | jani | aah. |
| 18:03.14 | acydlord | and if they felt challenged by the touch screen |
| 18:03.23 | gla55 | acydlord: well, on certain features 7710 is much more capable than iphone.. :) |
| 18:03.29 | acydlord | indeed |
| 18:03.39 | gla55 | rumor has it there's touchscreen s60's coming |
| 18:03.43 | acydlord | one of my friends was bragging on the iphone awhile back noting features |
| 18:03.44 | pupnik | some people will prefer tactile feedback |
| 18:03.56 | acydlord | and i was like "i have that, yep have that, that too" |
| 18:04.02 | pupnik | the iphone is 480x320 res? |
| 18:04.25 | gla55 | yea i think |
| 18:04.31 | acydlord | think so |
| 18:04.49 | acydlord | i read a funny article yesterday on different form factor iphone options |
| 18:05.02 | acydlord | and they did a product mockup for iphone nano and iphone shuffle |
| 18:07.46 | acydlord | any idea on how hard it is to hildonize gtk apps? |
| 18:08.36 | jani | from what i've looked at the code .. |
| 18:09.25 | jani | most of the stuff is that there's there's few main hildon components like main window and such and then rest of the code is just gtk api's ... |
| 18:09.51 | acydlord | shouldnt be too hard then |
| 18:10.10 | jani | well, there are few dialogs that are hildon specific but alas, they are not that different from gtk .. |
| 18:12.03 | acydlord | i'm trying to decide wheteher to be lazy and port a current linux twitter app, or if it would be worth the time writing my own |
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| 18:13.11 | tko | acydlord: the minimum you need is to replace gtk_window_new with hildon_window_new -- sometimes that might be enough, though usually you'd be better off redesigning the UI |
| 18:13.21 | tko | acydlord: and I hope you meant jaiku not twitter :) |
| 18:13.28 | acydlord | i meant twitter |
| 18:13.41 | acydlord | but it would not be hard for it to work in both |
| 18:13.49 | pupnik | heh, still nothing out there to make me consider selling my 770 |
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| 18:13.53 | jani | yeah, obviously the biggest issue is that your ui is much smaller and thus most apps dont fit to the screen ;) |
| 18:13.54 | acydlord | what i would really like to build is a jaiku/twitter/plazer |
| 18:14.20 | acydlord | because plazes.com added a "what are you doing" textbox |
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| 18:17.08 | acydlord | the UI is not dramatically smaller than a windowed application though |
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| 18:17.45 | jani | btw, anyone here running scratchbox on fc6? |
| 18:21.47 | pupnik | nah. i'd recommend sidux but the kernels aren't scratchbox compatible |
| 18:23.06 | jani | well, i got ubunto at work so things work there, just thinking if i could tinker something on freetime and i wouldnt like the idea to reinstall my box.. |
| 18:23.17 | jani | s/ubunto/ubuntu/ |
| 18:23.30 | jani | lol |
| 18:23.36 | acydlord | i got sick of ubuntu |
| 18:24.02 | acydlord | i switched to fedora to find out scratchbox hates it |
| 18:24.02 | acydlord | so now i'm running debian etch |
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| 18:24.06 | _Shurik_ | oh really? How about fc7? |
| 18:24.17 | acydlord | thats what i was running |
| 18:24.21 | jani | well, its not my choice of a distro either but it was mandated. |
| 18:24.34 | acydlord | understandable jani |
| 18:24.46 | acydlord | seems to be the market's choice as of late |
| 18:24.50 | _Shurik_ | haven't tried installing scratchbox yet on fc.. sux |
| 18:25.15 | acydlord | fedora isn't really a developers enviroment |
| 18:25.33 | acydlord | the've been spending more time on eyecandy |
| 18:28.36 | jani | *crickets* *thumbleweed* |
| 18:29.04 | acydlord | lol |
| 18:29.10 | _Shurik_ | so no way to get it working in fc? |
| 18:29.23 | acydlord | Man i sure am glad to see all my friends who actually went to college didnt waste their money |
| 18:29.44 | acydlord | don't think it's compat with their kernel _Shurik_ |
| 18:29.54 | _Shurik_ | got ya |
| 18:30.02 | acydlord | all my friends are working retail jobs with their big fancy degrees lol |
| 18:30.18 | _Shurik_ | nice |
| 18:30.35 | acydlord | yeah, i know a genetecist and a marine biologist that both work for holister |
| 18:30.45 | _Shurik_ | perhaps they're just taking an intellectual break from all that... partying? :) |
| 18:31.04 | acydlord | and another with a doctorate in econimics who works as a ranch hand |
| 18:31.32 | acydlord | lol, understandable if that were the case, but they were all pretty much your typical nerd, living for school |
| 18:31.42 | _Shurik_ | well that's just proves my theory again... 4 classes of education is more then enough |
| 18:32.25 | acydlord | one time i was amazed when i used the word reneged in my blog and people were like "whats that mean? i think it's a misspelling" |
| 18:33.16 | jani | _Shurik_: ive read few blogs saying that have it up and running |
| 18:33.31 | _Shurik_ | jani: oh good |
| 18:33.34 | jani | allthou as im installing it currently, its not very straight forward.. |
| 18:34.01 | _Shurik_ | I just have wifi working finaly on FC7 and would just hate to reinstall anything |
| 18:34.17 | _Shurik_ | and I'm not all that experienced in linux world |
| 18:34.22 | acydlord | you have the joys of one of the ndiswrapper cards? |
| 18:34.30 | _Shurik_ | madwifi |
| 18:34.38 | acydlord | ahh |
| 18:34.39 | _Shurik_ | atheros |
| 18:34.43 | _Shurik_ | it's on laptop |
| 18:35.06 | acydlord | i thought atheros chipsets were supported in all the newer kernels |
| 18:35.17 | jani | i was about to say that stock kernel doesnt come with vdso kernel support but i just remember that i dont hack stock kernel .. |
| 18:35.27 | jani | in fedora that is.. |
| 18:36.23 | acydlord | i was almost upset that a shoddy broadcom driver was included in the 2.6 kernel |
| 18:36.43 | jani | _Shurik_: i can report back if i get things running. |
| 18:36.54 | jani | btw, is there any nokia people on this channel usually ? |
| 18:36.57 | _Shurik_ | denifinely |
| 18:37.07 | ||cw | acydlord: the driver seems to works well enough, but you have to install a firmware package |
| 18:37.08 | acydlord | not sure |
| 18:37.35 | acydlord | yeah i installed the firmware package when my laptop was still among the living |
| 18:37.50 | acydlord | but i still preferred ndiswrapper |
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| 18:38.25 | acydlord | i wish i still had my 500mW ornrico card |
| 18:39.00 | _Shurik_ | anyone does python for n800 or you prefer C? |
| 18:39.10 | jani | c |
| 18:39.21 | jani | _Shurik_: http://www.bytebot.net/blog/archives/2007/03/01/maemo-30-on-fedora-core-6-n800-development-environment |
| 18:39.57 | acydlord | the libraries in the etch repos are old |
| 18:39.58 | acydlord | ew |
| 18:43.12 | _Shurik_ | :) |
| 18:43.32 | _Shurik_ | I just thought it might be faster to put something together that way |
| 18:44.24 | VimSi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40 |
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| 18:48.02 | jani | _Shurik_: ok, so far, scratchbox installation script works well, after it has installed, echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/vdso_enabled, and then the maemo-sdk install script seems to work too .. |
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| 18:48.51 | _Shurik_ | nice nice |
| 18:49.02 | _Shurik_ | I enjoy a real time reporting :)) |
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| 18:49.30 | jani | yeah duud! its no unpacking the rootstrap! i cant wait for it to finnish! =)) |
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| 18:49.46 | jani | no/now =) |
| 18:49.57 | _Shurik_ | that makes sense now |
| 18:49.59 | _Shurik_ | :) |
| 18:50.37 | jani | pupnik: if its enabled, you get error message saying following: "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: rtld.c: 1192: dl_main: Assertion" .. and so forth |
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| 18:51.19 | jani | pupnik: http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-developers/2007-February/008387.html |
| 18:51.24 | pupnik | ty ty |
| 18:51.58 | jani | same thing reported there. allthou the solution in fedora is slightly different, or maybe its because different kernel version but the proc fs had different layout anyway.. |
| 18:52.13 | pupnik | might actually be able to use scratchbox with a stock sidux kernel now - with that proc echo |
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| 18:52.31 | jani | [sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > |
| 18:52.35 | jani | yey! |
| 18:52.48 | _Shurik_ | niceee |
| 18:52.49 | jani | logged into scratchbox |
| 18:52.56 | _Shurik_ | gotta love it |
| 18:53.10 | jani | btw, i forgot one command you need to give ofcourse before you install the sdk itself |
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| 18:53.18 | jani | sbox_ctl start ;) |
| 18:53.30 | jani | but it will complain about it if its not running |
| 18:53.49 | _Shurik_ | so far so good? |
| 18:54.17 | jani | well, i got to prompt atleast, i dont have xephyr installed yet so cant test the gui part but so far so good |
| 18:56.04 | _Shurik_ | awsome |
| 18:56.18 | trevarthan | test |
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| 18:59.02 | pupnik | Computer terms are ironic... DDR Ram and SED Displays |
| 18:59.09 | pupnik | SED was the communist party name of East Germany (DDR) |
| 18:59.23 | _Shurik_ | :) |
| 18:59.48 | _Shurik_ | so much for N800 'Gagarin' then |
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| 19:04.23 | acydlord | sata 3? |
| 19:04.27 | acydlord | ack, wrong window |
| 19:05.59 | jani | _Shurik_: yellownotes-applet-0.1 atleast that project compiles well .. |
| 19:06.42 | _Shurik_ | sweet |
| 19:06.58 | _Shurik_ | I'll take a stab at that tomorrow, since it's my work from home day |
| 19:07.13 | keesj | if I want an icon for my .desktop do I need to create all the differetn icon sizes? |
| 19:07.14 | _Shurik_ | just gotta figure out how not to drown laptop in the pool |
| 19:07.47 | pupnik | somebody port drpocketsnes plz |
| 19:08.22 | pupnik | snes9x too slow |
| 19:13.19 | keesj | (mental note) don't type kill -9 -1 , not even in sbox |
| 19:13.48 | pupnik | ? literally that? |
| 19:14.02 | pupnik | doesn't it return no PID -1? |
| 19:14.12 | keesj | don't try it |
| 19:15.01 | keesj | perhaps it does , but if it does you will not see it. |
| 19:15.54 | pupnik | kill -9 -1 This sends signal 9, the SIGKILL signal, to all processes owned by the effective user. |
| 19:15.59 | keesj | Kill all processes you can kill. that is what the man pages has to say about -9 -1 |
| 19:16.00 | pupnik | aha! |
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| 19:53.50 | livingtm_ | IM having trouble with the bora sdk install script. It quits saying that the Scratchbox devkit debian is not found. If i apt-get install scratchbox-devkit-debian it says the latest is already installed |
| 19:54.29 | pupnik | version mismatch? |
| 19:54.58 | jani | _Shurik_: i was afk for a while but got back now .. i got maemo desktop running in scratchbox just fine .. |
| 19:57.29 | _Shurik_ | great |
| 19:57.35 | _Shurik_ | and all of that on a standard fc6? |
| 19:57.41 | _Shurik_ | or you tweaked it? |
| 19:59.22 | jani | nothing major .. |
| 19:59.40 | livingtm_ | pupnik, i installed scratchbox just now using the script maemo-scratchbox-install_3.1.sh |
| 19:59.50 | jani | only difference is that i dont use yum, i have apt-get .. |
| 19:59.51 | livingtm_ | i would hope there isnt a version mismatch |
| 20:00.16 | jani | livingtm_: it could be the same problem as i had .. |
| 20:00.58 | livingtm_ | jani, which was? |
| 20:01.19 | jani | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.30 | jani | /proc/sys/vm/vdso_enabled |
| 20:01.45 | jani | that was causing some problems for me for version check .. |
| 20:02.00 | livingtm_ | i dont follow |
| 20:02.05 | jani | or if that file is not found it's prolly /proc/sys/kernel/vdso |
| 20:02.14 | jani | try "echo 0 > echo 0 > |
| 20:02.23 | jani | damn this copypaste |
| 20:02.34 | jani | try running " echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/vdso_enabled" |
| 20:02.42 | jani | and then try to install the maemo-sdk with the script .. |
| 20:03.00 | jani | or |
| 20:03.04 | livingtm_ | as root? |
| 20:03.20 | jani | yes. As a root .. Or "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/vdso" |
| 20:03.24 | livingtm_ | i get permision denied |
| 20:03.38 | jani | as a root ? =) |
| 20:03.48 | livingtm_ | yes |
| 20:03.53 | livingtm_ | well, sudo in ubuntu |
| 20:03.56 | livingtm_ | su |
| 20:04.59 | jani | try this as root: find /proc -name "*vdso*" -print |
| 20:05.12 | jani | it should print out a filename .. |
| 20:05.17 | livingtm_ | okay didnt work |
| 20:05.23 | livingtm_ | i did the echo successfuly |
| 20:05.31 | livingtm_ | but then i still get that debian devkit error |
| 20:05.40 | livingtm_ | E: Scratchbox devkit debian not found. |
| 20:05.40 | livingtm_ | E: Please complete scratchbox installation first. |
| 20:05.40 | livingtm_ | E: Specify an alternative installation path using '-s PATH' option. |
| 20:05.57 | jani | how are you trying to run maemo-sdk script? |
| 20:06.10 | livingtm_ | bash maemo-sdk-install_3.1.sh |
| 20:06.17 | livingtm_ | like the tutorial says |
| 20:06.35 | jani | well, you could try to to give the -s parameter too 0) |
| 20:06.37 | livingtm_ | i mean the install instructions http://repository.maemo.org/stable/bora/INSTALL.txt |
| 20:06.46 | jani | yes i know those =) |
| 20:06.55 | jani | did you install scratchbox first ? |
| 20:06.58 | livingtm_ | -s .scratchbox? |
| 20:07.05 | livingtm_ | er /scratchbox? |
| 20:07.18 | jani | yep. was it successfull ? =)) |
| 20:07.37 | livingtm_ | nope same error |
| 20:07.49 | jani | mm.. |
| 20:07.58 | livingtm_ | bash maemo-sdk-install_3.1.sh -s /scratchbox/ |
| 20:08.00 | jani | i think the tutorial might be missing the reboot or start sbox part =) |
| 20:08.10 | livingtm_ | i did start scratchbox |
| 20:08.13 | livingtm_ | maybe i will reboot |
| 20:08.17 | livingtm_ | brb :-) |
| 20:08.20 | jani | wait |
| 20:08.21 | livingtm_ | i love rebooting linux.. |
| 20:08.27 | jani | did you add yourself into sbox group ? |
| 20:08.41 | livingtm_ | oh, the installer did but i didnt log out and back in... |
| 20:08.43 | livingtm_ | brb :-) |
| 20:08.48 | jani | yes, thats required |
| 20:08.49 | livingtm_ | (better than a reboot) |
| 20:09.03 | jani | group changes arent applied till you relog |
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| 20:11.12 | jani | any luck ? |
| 20:14.41 | livingtm | nope |
| 20:14.44 | livingtm | :-( |
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| 20:16.01 | livingtm | im definitely in the group sbox |
| 20:16.24 | livingtm | I thoguth scripts were suppose dto make it easier? :-) |
| 20:19.54 | jani | does your machine have /scratchbox/devkits/debian directory ? |
| 20:21.58 | jani | that error message you are getting is coming from the shell script part which checks if directory $scratchbox/devkits/$devkit exists or not .. $devkit == debian and $scratchbox is the directory where you should have installed the scratchbox .. which is /scratchbox by default if you didnt give -s switch to the first shellscript you ran .. |
| 20:23.11 | livingtm | there are three directories |
| 20:24.09 | livingtm | debian etch |
| 20:24.14 | livingtm | debian lenny |
| 20:24.17 | livingtm | debian sarge |
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| 20:32.34 | jani | doesnt sound right .. |
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| 20:33.07 | jani | but i dont know much so about the install procedure =) |
| 20:33.21 | jani | i have cputransp debian debian-sarge doctools perl in $scratchbox/devkits/ folder .. |
| 20:34.35 | livingtm | livingtm@acer:/scratchbox/devkits$ ls |
| 20:34.35 | livingtm | cputransp debian-etch debian-lenny debian-sarge doctools perl |
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| 20:41.58 | kakos | Quick question... what does the LED light under the D-pad do exactly? |
| 20:42.28 | kakos | On the N800 |
| 20:42.33 | _Shurik_ | battery test? |
| 20:42.39 | derf | Blink. |
| 20:42.48 | kakos | Does it have any particular use? |
| 20:42.55 | kakos | Does it stay lit up if I have new mail? |
| 20:43.02 | derf | It drains your battery very nicely. |
| 20:43.07 | _Shurik_ | hehe |
| 20:44.03 | Sho_ | Any easy way to actuate it from the shell, btw? |
| 20:51.31 | trevarthan | Is there a way to increase the text size without having to scroll in maemo's browser? |
| 20:52.06 | trevarthan | For example, in firefox you can do CTRL+SHIFT++ to increase the text size. The line wrap stays the same. Just the font size increases.... |
| 20:52.47 | _Shurik_ | select optimized view |
| 20:52.53 | _Shurik_ | that will prevent side scroll |
| 20:53.18 | trevarthan | sweet. I was wondering what that did. Thanks! |
| 20:53.31 | _Shurik_ | np |
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| 20:59.17 | livingtm | jani, I have a debian-sarge folder |
| 21:04.48 | Pio | wow .. optimized view.. i never knew about that either |
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| 21:26.25 | jani | livingtm: thats the thing, you are missing a directory/devkit called debian |
| 21:26.44 | livingtm | jani yeah sorry i had a network issue here and dropped out afor a minute |
| 21:26.49 | jani | [23:05] <livingtm_> E: Scratchbox devkit debian not found. |
| 21:26.54 | jani | yeap, i was afk too |
| 21:26.58 | jani | so no worries |
| 21:26.59 | livingtm | I just created a link debian -> debian-sarge and tried again and it worked |
| 21:27.37 | jani | was about to suggest that =) |
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| 21:27.42 | livingtm | althugh there are three debian directories so i dont know whiuch one was correct |
| 21:27.59 | livingtm | thanks for your help |
| 21:31.08 | livingtm | man one thing after another... now when runing he script it does an apt-get update and i get error 404's |
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| 21:42.59 | livingtm | during the sdk install the apt-get update fails with a "file not found" |
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| 21:44.01 | livingtm | this appears to be onle when in SDK_ARMEL |
| 21:45.03 | livingtm | Running apt-get update on 'SDK_ARMEL'. |
| 21:45.03 | livingtm | Err file: bora/explicit Packages |
| 21:45.03 | livingtm | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:45.03 | livingtm | Ign file: bora/explicit Release |
| 21:45.03 | livingtm | Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Packages |
| 21:45.03 | livingtm | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:46.33 | unique311 | finally |
| 21:46.40 | unique311 | trial and error... |
| 21:46.44 | pupnik | hi unique311 |
| 21:46.54 | unique311 | have .deb packs for fltk and pose |
| 21:47.00 | pupnik | \o/ :D |
| 21:47.17 | unique311 | installed nicely in scratchbox.. |
| 21:47.24 | livingtm | interesting.. uname -a = "Linux acer 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 arm GNU/Linux |
| 21:47.25 | livingtm | " |
| 21:47.29 | livingtm | shouldnt it be armel? |
| 21:48.25 | livingtm | would that cause apt-get update to be looking for the wrong repositories?. |
| 21:48.37 | pupnik | want to be added to the Pose developers on garage? |
| 21:49.18 | unique311 | no.... |
| 21:49.39 | unique311 | you can up it to your project page.. |
| 21:49.58 | unique311 | i need to pack up the skin file.. |
| 21:50.25 | unique311 | and then i will up it to divshare..you can add it to maemo.org... |
| 21:50.57 | unique311 | keyboard is definitely required... |
| 21:51.13 | gwak_ | from what texrat is hinting at, i am really confused to what nokia has in store for the next firmware/software upgrade http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6851&page=12 |
| 21:51.24 | unique311 | or use synergy to share your notebooks keyboard |
| 21:54.52 | livingtm | Im on step 2.4 of INSTALL.txt. still trying to apt-get update in the armel target |
| 21:54.56 | livingtm | er, 3.4 |
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| 21:56.11 | livingtm | cant seem to hit the correct repositories for the armel target |
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| 22:09.04 | acydlord | argh, my brain is trying to shut down. |
| 22:10.20 | livingtm | same here |
| 22:10.35 | livingtm | what do you get inside the armel target when you hit uname -a? |
| 22:11.45 | b0unc3 | livingtm: arm... like you... |
| 22:11.55 | livingtm | okay so thats good |
| 22:12.10 | livingtm | why cant i hit the repos then? im pulling my hair out |
| 22:12.58 | b0unc3 | livingtm: the connection is working properly? |
| 22:13.07 | livingtm | yeah i get wget okay |
| 22:13.31 | acydlord | I think i should be drinking a darker brew |
| 22:13.31 | livingtm | what are the repos supposed to be? |
| 22:13.43 | acydlord | fat tire amber ale doesnt seem to be helping me stay awake lol |
| 22:13.52 | livingtm | acydlord, im switching over to red wine |
| 22:14.36 | livingtm | Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Packages |
| 22:14.36 | livingtm | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:14.44 | livingtm | grrrr |
| 22:15.01 | b0unc3 | uhmmm... maybe your apt source lists is broken ? |
| 22:15.20 | livingtm | whats the list spposed to be? the installer set it to whatever it is currently |
| 22:16.00 | b0unc3 | livingtm: you're on a fresh installation ? |
| 22:16.36 | livingtm | b0unc3, yeah i just ran the script |
| 22:16.47 | livingtm | and it fails at the end when trying to apt-get update in the armel target. |
| 22:17.08 | livingtm | ... and the tutorials dont tell yo uwhen to do when "step x" fails :-) |
| 22:18.51 | livingtm | Heres what i was running "bash ~/Desktop/maemo-sdk-install_3.1.sh -s /scratchbox/ -y" |
| 22:20.20 | livingtm | actually, that IP address doesnt seem to be right! |
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| 22:21.06 | livingtm | what the hell would cause apt-get update to incorrectly resolv the repository host? |
| 22:21.21 | livingtm | i dont mean NOT resolv it.. i mean resolv it WRONG\ |
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| 22:23.43 | acydlord | I should have got 1554, that would have kept me wide awake |
| 22:24.34 | b0unc3 | livingtm: try to take a look at /scratchbox/etc/resolv.conf ... |
| 22:24.38 | livingtm | works fine in the x86 target |
| 22:26.01 | jani | hehe i know that resolver problem .. |
| 22:26.11 | jani | we had it work too.. |
| 22:26.16 | livingtm | ? |
| 22:26.34 | suihkulokki | does anyone bother maintaining a FAQ here? |
| 22:26.48 | suihkulokki | every day someone is asking about resolving here.. |
| 22:26.57 | b0unc3 | livingtm: there is a resolv.conf also inside each targets... |
| 22:27.03 | jani | yes. |
| 22:27.12 | livingtm | b0unc3, yeh they are the same |
| 22:27.18 | jani | each target has it and there's one in scratchboxs main /etc .. |
| 22:27.28 | livingtm | and it works okay in the x86 target but not the armel |
| 22:28.43 | jani | basicly i fixed my problme by copying my host os's resolv.conf to scratchbox/etc and also to each target's /etc folder .. |
| 22:28.53 | livingtm | [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > apt-get update |
| 22:28.53 | livingtm | Err file: bora/explicit Packages |
| 22:28.53 | livingtm | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.53 | livingtm | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:29.03 | acydlord | When I move to seattle I will add "teabag balmer" to my todo list. |
| 22:29.13 | jani | acydlord: lol |
| 22:29.14 | livingtm | hehe |
| 22:30.10 | acydlord | i would probably be the open source community's hero for awhile |
| 22:31.22 | jani | i'll start printing "Free Acydlord!" t-shirts and coffee mugs! |
| 22:31.44 | jani | when you do that, i'll be rich!! rich! rich1!! muahahahahahah |
| 22:31.59 | livingtm | deb http://repository.maemo.org/ bora free non-free |
| 22:31.59 | livingtm | deb-src http://repository.maemo.org/ bora free |
| 22:31.59 | livingtm | deb file:/home/livingtm/maemo-sdk-nokia-binaries_3.1 bora explicit |
| 22:32.02 | livingtm | is that right? |
| 22:32.28 | b0unc3 | uhm... I have no deb file:/home/livingtm/maemo-sdk-nokia-binaries_3.1 bora explicit on my source.list |
| 22:32.52 | acydlord | sweet |
| 22:32.55 | livingtm | b0unc3, hm, well it fails well before it gets that far, but Ill comment that out :-) |
| 22:33.00 | jani | looks about right.. |
| 22:33.33 | livingtm | im lost. i really dont know what to do next |
| 22:33.56 | acydlord | rm -rf ? |
| 22:34.12 | livingtm | acydlord, i just did that.. this is a fresh damn install!!!! |
| 22:34.16 | unique311 | getting an incompatible application manager when trying to install the deb packs i just made in scratchbox |
| 22:34.17 | acydlord | ahh |
| 22:34.27 | jani | livingtm: resolv problem ? |
| 22:34.37 | livingtm | jani, im not positive its a resov problem |
| 22:34.50 | jani | but apt-get doesnt work ? |
| 22:34.54 | livingtm | it looks to me like its hitting the serv er, but its not finding the repo |
| 22:35.32 | acydlord | i'm watching a tesla coil play the super mario bros theme |
| 22:35.46 | b0unc3 | livingtm: I thinks apt is complaining with that last line.... |
| 22:36.29 | livingtm | http://www.pastebin.ca/582329 |
| 22:36.37 | livingtm | b0unc3, commented it out and it didnt help |
| 22:38.56 | pupnik | i'm pissed off i haven't gotten any work done last couple of months |
| 22:39.06 | jani | moment.. |
| 22:39.15 | jani | someone asked what uname under armel prints ? |
| 22:39.16 | jani | Linux delenn 2.6.20-1.2948.fc6 #1 SMP Fri Apr 27 19:48:40 EDT 2007 arm GNU/Linux |
| 22:39.23 | b0unc3 | uhm.... binary-arm_Packages I have binary-armel_Packages... |
| 22:39.33 | pupnik | unique311: installing on the n800 or in the same scratchbox? |
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| 22:41.09 | livingtm | b0unc3, thats why i was asking about uname... |
| 22:41.21 | unique311 | n800 |
| 22:41.40 | livingtm | uname shows arm.... |
| 22:41.51 | jani | livingtm: do you know whats akamai ? |
| 22:41.53 | unique311 | wondering if i should packed it for arch armel or any |
| 22:42.01 | livingtm | nope |
| 22:42.04 | jani | ok. |
| 22:42.09 | unique311 | i packed it for armel. |
| 22:42.15 | jani | repository.maemo.org is akamai host. |
| 22:42.33 | livingtm | ok |
| 22:42.35 | tigert | akamai is big, distributed cache |
| 22:42.42 | jani | oh, hi tigert |
| 22:42.43 | dolske | Akamai runs a content distribution network. |
| 22:42.43 | unique311 | i can manually install the .deb packs with dpkg -i i guess... |
| 22:42.48 | b0unc3 | livingtm: your uname is correct... |
| 22:42.53 | livingtm | ok |
| 22:43.03 | tigert | moi |
| 22:43.04 | jani | and your end of the cache isnt working |
| 22:43.13 | henkt | any one help me to instell python? |
| 22:43.16 | pupnik | unique311: i have no ideas |
| 22:43.19 | livingtm | any fix? |
| 22:43.25 | henkt | I just downloaded to .install files |
| 22:43.32 | henkt | what I am going to do with them |
| 22:43.51 | jani | tigert: you dont happen to work in 5th floor in ruoholahti ? =)) |
| 22:43.59 | henkt | hi pupnik |
| 22:44.26 | henkt | I now able to switch to armel target |
| 22:44.31 | livingtm | so im screwed until the cache updates? |
| 22:44.48 | jani | well, you could try using a proxy .. |
| 22:44.50 | tigert | jani, i do |
| 22:44.53 | jani | of another isp .. |
| 22:44.55 | pupnik | great henkt. now the dpkg -i works? |
| 22:45.05 | henkt | but dpkg -i *.deb do not work |
| 22:45.09 | livingtm | damn |
| 22:45.38 | henkt | /scratchbox/tools/bin/misc_runner: SBOX_CPUTRANSPARENCY_METHOD not set |
| 22:45.53 | henkt | got the above mssage |
| 22:46.02 | livingtm | so the repository is cached... |
| 22:47.38 | livingtm | well time to drink heavily i guess |
| 22:47.41 | pupnik | henkt, do you have a howto for installing scratchbox? |
| 22:47.48 | b0unc3 | livingtm: try to use deb-armel in source.list instead on deb |
| 22:48.19 | livingtm | E: Type 'deb-armel' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:48.21 | pupnik | you should set the cputransparency options to use qemu when you set up the scratchbox target |
| 22:48.22 | henkt | no, scratch box is installed already |
| 22:48.39 | b0unc3 | uhmm... |
| 22:49.05 | jani | tigert: i thought there was something familar with the face. im that dreadlocked fellow who just started there.. |
| 22:49.07 | pupnik | henkt: when you set up the armel target, you will be asked in the menu which cputransparency method to use |
| 22:49.13 | henkt | how I set it? |
| 22:49.25 | jani | we've talked some years back when i was working at jippii .. |
| 22:49.43 | jani | propably. |
| 22:49.52 | tigert | hmm |
| 22:50.03 | tigert | where do you sit? |
| 22:50.26 | jani | 5th floor, in the corner facing the cemetary |
| 22:50.39 | livingtm | jani sounds lively |
| 22:50.40 | henkt | pupnik, its okey now |
| 22:50.43 | tigert | sure, i was in saunalahti/jippii years ago |
| 22:51.28 | henkt | I selected all the development kits including cuptrunsp |
| 22:51.36 | acydlord | hmm, the nokia N800 + Nav-Kit ads are out in force here in the states |
| 22:51.53 | acydlord | second website i've seen today with a tower ad and a block ad |
| 22:52.36 | tigert | jani, sounds like our wing. |
| 22:52.47 | henkt | were I put this to .install files. now they are some were on the desktop |
| 22:52.48 | jani | i used to sit in ahmad's room for 2 weeks |
| 22:53.08 | jani | http://a680.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/00626/97/63/626463679_m.jpg |
| 22:53.23 | jani | thats me. |
| 22:53.57 | b0unc3 | livingtm: what echo $ARCH says ? |
| 22:54.11 | henkt | [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > dpkg -i *.deb |
| 22:54.11 | henkt | dpkg: error processing maemopad_1.5_i386.deb (--install): |
| 22:54.11 | henkt | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.11 | henkt | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 22:54.11 | henkt | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.18 | pupnik | hehe jani :) |
| 22:54.36 | livingtm | "arm" |
| 22:54.42 | henkt | :( |
| 22:54.52 | tigert | looking |
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| 22:55.04 | jani | livingtm: well, basicly akamai works in a way that some big isp's in each country have akamai servers.. so if you add a proxy to some other isp, you might get it working .. |
| 22:55.47 | b0unc3 | livingtm: I have armel... |
| 22:55.56 | b0unc3 | try to set it to armel |
| 22:57.27 | jani | tigert: ring any bells ? |
| 22:57.29 | pupnik | ah henkt you can not install _i386.deb s to armel target, only to 86 targets |
| 22:57.36 | livingtm | b0unc3, nerp, same thing |
| 22:57.50 | henkt | yes |
| 22:57.53 | b0unc3 | ;( |
| 22:58.01 | pupnik | henkt, find the maemopad-----_armel.deb |
| 22:58.06 | henkt | this is just the output of dpkg -i *.deb |
| 22:58.18 | pupnik | dpkg -i the individual debs then |
| 22:58.30 | henkt | I want to install python |
| 22:59.07 | pupnik | i don't know exactly what debs you need. find a howto on installing python 2.5 and follow the instructions |
| 22:59.11 | jani | henkt: you are trying to install all deb files in current directory and thus you are mixing up i386 and armel packages because you have downloaded them to same directory. |
| 22:59.34 | tigert | jani, ah, you are the rasta-guy wandering in the alleys? :) |
| 22:59.45 | jani | yes |
| 22:59.57 | jani | the same one. |
| 23:00.40 | tigert | yea. i dont remember you from jippii-days (so long ago) but i definitely remember you from the office :) |
| 23:01.09 | jani | yeah, well, i actually wasnt working in jippii the same time as you but we talked few times in irc |
| 23:01.10 | henkt | ok, when I download python I got two files which are base-repository.install and python2.5-runtime.install |
| 23:01.12 | tigert | will need to say hi next time. though i am on vacation now, |
| 23:02.03 | tigert | its funny, most finns seem to have worked there :) |
| 23:02.19 | jani | jippii or nokia or both ? =)) |
| 23:02.59 | henkt | what is the next step pls? |
| 23:03.21 | tigert | both i guess =) |
| 23:03.38 | tigert | ok. time to sleep, ttyl :) |
| 23:03.46 | jani | henkt: im not really expert in the platform yet .. |
| 23:03.49 | pupnik | cu tigert |
| 23:03.58 | jani | yeah hi.. come holler me whan you get back to the office |
| 23:04.12 | pupnik | henkt, the .install files are like little scripts that the nokia application installer uses |
| 23:04.26 | pupnik | they aren't the .debs you need |
| 23:04.33 | henkt | ic |
| 23:04.54 | henkt | ok |
| 23:05.07 | jani | yep, was about to say the same |
| 23:06.04 | pupnik | henkt: according to one howto, you can run command: apt-get install python2.5* |
| 23:06.13 | pupnik | http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/sdk_installation.html |
| 23:09.11 | pupnik | henkt: are you familiar with debian linux yet? |
| 23:10.18 | jani | ;) |
| 23:10.21 | henkt | I am, excepte with some dificulties |
| 23:10.49 | pupnik | ok if the scratchbox setup is new, you might want to run "apt-get update" first |
| 23:12.38 | henkt | ok |
| 23:13.03 | henkt | done |
| 23:13.32 | pupnik | if you are lucky, the python2.5 is in your repository |
| 23:13.37 | pupnik | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:14.42 | henkt | colldent find |
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| 23:15.01 | henkt | E: Couldn't find package pyhton2.5* |
| 23:15.24 | pupnik | ok then it's not in your repository. you might have maemo2.1 or something |
| 23:15.46 | henkt | I have maemo 3.1 |
| 23:16.28 | pupnik | ok so i think your repository would be bora? not sure. you can see the distro type by looking at /etc/apt/sources.list in scratchbox |
| 23:16.43 | pupnik | mistral, scirocco, bora, ... whatever |
| 23:16.53 | henkt | it is bora |
| 23:17.43 | pupnik | ok the instructions in the link said python should be in bora :( |
| 23:17.55 | pupnik | you can "apt-cache search python" |
| 23:18.12 | pupnik | to see if any python packages are available. otherwise you need to find and download the correct .debs |
| 23:18.20 | pupnik | and use dpkg -i <filename> to install |
| 23:19.25 | henkt | ok brb I will check them |
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| 23:28.35 | unique311 | pupnik |
| 23:31.46 | jani | there is python in bora but its not 2.5 its 2.3 |
| 23:31.53 | jani | [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~/src/maemo-panelclock] > apt-cache search python |
| 23:31.53 | jani | python - python from Scratchbox |
| 23:31.53 | jani | idle-python2.3 - idle-python2.3 from Scratchbox |
| 23:31.53 | jani | python2.3 - python2.3 from Scratchbox |
| 23:31.53 | jani | python2.3-tk - python2.3-tk from Scratchbox |
| 23:31.53 | jani | python2.3-dev - python2.3-dev from Scratchbox |
| 23:31.55 | jani | [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~/src/maemo-panelclock] > |
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| 23:41.50 | pupnik | ewwo unique311 |
| 23:42.20 | unique311 | not sure.... |
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| 23:42.27 | unique311 | started up... |
| 23:42.46 | unique311 | but then exit after 10 seconds.. |
| 23:44.01 | henkt | pupnik, http://pymaemo.garage.maemo.org/sdk_installation.html |
| 23:44.19 | henkt | in this link the installation step for python is in x86 |
| 23:44.22 | henkt | target |
| 23:44.43 | pupnik | yeah the reason for that is, python doesn't need to be in the armel target |
| 23:44.47 | henkt | shall I change my target to [sbox-SDK_X86: ~]? |
| 23:44.49 | pupnik | since it is interpreted, not compiled |
| 23:45.13 | pupnik | but if you do other development, it might be more convenient to do all you work in the armel target |
| 23:45.41 | henkt | other develpment? |
| 23:45.46 | pupnik | c/c++ |
| 23:46.11 | henkt | I just run some sample c files on [sbox-SDK_X86: ~] |
| 23:46.14 | pupnik | so yes, you can do the python stuff in the x86 target |
| 23:46.23 | henkt | ok |
| 23:46.37 | pupnik | right but if you compile a c program under x86, it will not run on the nokia |
| 23:47.19 | pupnik | if you write a python program under x86, it *will* run on the nokia |
| 23:47.53 | henkt | to run c file on nokia i have to compile it again on armel? |
| 23:48.35 | pupnik | yes that is what the armel SDK target is for. to compile and run/debug programs for the nokia processor (arm cpu) |
| 23:51.53 | henkt | okey now it is on installing python 2.5 :) |
| 23:53.20 | pupnik | Onneksiolkoon! :) |
| 23:54.04 | henkt | vahn phuu ...soamia :) |
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| 23:54.23 | henkt | now I run my helloworld |
| 23:54.48 | henkt | [sbox-SDK_X86: ~] > run-standalone.sh ./hello_world_1.py |
| 23:54.49 | henkt | Traceback (most recent call last): |
| 23:54.49 | henkt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.49 | henkt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.49 | henkt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.49 | henkt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.51 | henkt | NameError: global name '_gtk' is not defined |
| 23:57.00 | pupnik | maybe some gtk library is not installed? |
| 23:57.23 | pupnik | libgtk2.0-dev ? i just am guessing |
