IRC log for #maemo on 20070617

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00:55.22crotchHi there
00:55.59crotchAm I the only swede with a nokia n800? :)
00:58.48Fataldoubtful
00:59.17crotchHave anyone of you had problems with the internet call activation?
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01:08.00unique311fantastic 4 ...
01:08.10unique311770 first big screen appereance
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01:10.41Blacksitoxhttp://maemo.org/community/wiki/howdoibecomeroot2/
01:10.53Blacksitoxthe server ssh how activate ?
01:11.22BlacksitoxI not have root :\
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01:20.48crotc1has anyone had any problems with the internet call activation?
01:21.15unique311nope
01:21.33crotc1Ok.. i cant activate it anyway
01:21.46unique311Blacksitox, you might be able to use babelfish to translate that link....
01:22.15unique311what do you mean you can't activate it?
01:22.32unique311you send another person with a gmail account an invitation to chat..
01:22.35crotc1well.. I allready have a gtalk account. voip works and so on
01:22.49Blacksitoxunique311,  :D
01:22.50crotc1no.. before i can do that i have to activate the feature .. and that doesnt work
01:22.54unique311send someone an invite chat..
01:23.08crotc1doesnt work. It says that I have to activate the feature first.
01:23.23unique311hold on
01:24.00crotc1so, i press "ok".. and then i have to choose a screen name.. then i press ok again. then it says "activateing".. then it says.. could not activate.. try later.. But i have tried like... 1000 times :)
01:25.18unique311do you have a wireless connection
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01:30.17crotchuh.. something happened to my connection
01:30.45crotchunique311: did u answer anything?
01:31.45unique311hmmm
01:32.24unique311are you doing this while your device is connected to a wireless point
01:32.36crotchyes
01:32.58crotchI've tried different wireless points
01:33.13crotchvoice works fine, but video call doesnt work
01:33.15unique311did you set up you gmail account
01:33.35crotchor, at least I cant send an invitation cause it wont activate
01:33.38crotchyes
01:33.39unique311control panel>accounts
01:34.15unique311let me send you an invite..to chat
01:35.27unique311hello
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01:36.17ramatiegDoes anyone's N800 randomly boot up by itself?
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01:38.44unique311u got a bad connection crotc2
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01:39.33crotc2i've noticed
01:40.26unique311maybe you should try activating right next to the router
01:40.48crotc2Oh.. thats not it. I've tried different wireless connections
01:41.22unique311whats ur gmail addy...
01:41.26unique311i'll send you an invite
01:41.30crotc2wait
01:41.38crotc2iĺl pm u
01:41.57unique311k
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01:43.48Blacksitoxwhat change my pass for root ?
01:43.53crotc2damn
01:43.57Blacksitoxhow change my pass for root ?
01:44.04ramatiegAnybody know what 'por' means in /proc/bootreason?
01:44.23unique311don't bother Blacksitox
01:44.40unique311don't bother Blacksitox"
01:44.53unique311proc
01:44.59crotc2unique: im trying to pm u
01:45.00Blacksitoxsorry
01:45.13unique311you are not a registered user..
01:45.18crotc2aha
01:45.19unique311crotc2
01:45.19crotc2ok
01:45.25unique311you need to register the nick
01:45.36crotc2hmm..
01:45.44crotc2newbie :)
01:46.04unique311run    /msg nickserv register "password"
01:46.31unique311and then run /msg nickserv identify "password"
01:46.44unique311but before both of those commands..
01:47.06unique311run /nick "nick you would like"
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01:48.10unique311depending on the client you are using you can make the identify part of the command automatic...
01:48.59unique311well actually with all irc clients..
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05:36.40Blacksitoxexisting kismet for n800 ?
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09:54.47sbaturzioAloha!
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14:39.23Blacksitohi
14:44.19vnesehello
14:44.49vnesehow can i change my scratchbox theme ?
14:44.55Blacksitohow installed kismet on n800?
14:45.56vneseapt-get install kismet ?
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14:53.53vnesehello, i m in X86 scratchbox environment, how can i switch to arm target?
14:55.17vneseand is it true that the arm target is the correct environment for tablet device like n800 (i mean do they share the same cpu speed and memory?)
14:58.14vnese(offtopic : is there any maemo course in espoo :( )
14:59.50`0660the only correct environment for n800 is in the device itself :)
15:00.39`0660i had some problems developing in the arm target and the x86 didn't seem to lack anything so i used it
15:02.43vnesehhmm, how about the 1st question, how can i switch to arm target? and can you explain what is the difference between those x86 and arm :P
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15:03.53vnesehi konttori
15:04.00konttorihi
15:04.05`0660use sb-menu for switching
15:05.04`0660to my understanding debugging is easier in the x86 target but the final application will need to be compiled in the arm target
15:06.54vneseso, x86 and arm are different processor architectures ?
15:07.07`0660yes they are
15:07.20`0660most desktops have x86
15:07.27`0660and most pda's have arm
15:08.18`0660but with sb it's possible to emulate arm
15:09.07vnesehhmm, i see
15:10.02`0660you can develop in both targets
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15:37.58vnesehhmm is there any maemo training course in finland ?
15:38.15konttoriwhat do you want to do?
15:39.41acydlordmorning
15:39.41vnesei m a student and i m used to playing with c/gtk+, yesterday i was hit by maemo and tried to port my app to maemo and i was successful
15:40.03vneseand i want to learn sth about the maemo platform
15:40.59acydlordthere are no training courses that i know of
15:41.08acydlordmost of us rely on the docs or wiki
15:41.45vnesei guess i will follow that path too ...
15:43.32vneseacydlord: one secret question, are you working, and your job is maemo related or is it just a hobby ?
15:45.33vnesehhmm, just worried about my career
15:45.37vneseskip it
15:47.58acydlordjust a hobby
15:49.04acydlordsince maemo is opensource, i don't really see there being much call for steady jobs using it. at least not until the market is considerably larger
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16:15.47tkoI fail to see the logic in the first part, how does opensource or not have anything to do with it?
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16:54.43rhsanbornis there a port of a telnet client for n800?
16:57.43feig<PROTECTED>
16:58.03rhsanbornFriends have setup a server w/ old bbs type games
16:58.19feigand ssh won't work?
16:58.36rhsanbornhaven't tried it yet...
16:58.59rhsanbornNot sure if they setup ssh..
16:59.28feigoh, i much perfer ssh over telnet, telnet is very picky, and slow, ssh is like your there
16:59.54rhsanbornindeed. I'll check, but I don't think he set it up
17:00.00rhsanbornI prefer ssh as well
17:00.43feigoh
17:00.58feigyea, i don't know about telnet, it should be trivial to get working though
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17:02.16rhsanbornnot necessarily. Depends on how it accesses the network protocols. I don't know either how maemo or telnet implements this and might require some fiddling to get them together
17:02.28rhsanbornPlaying bbs games is not worth looking into it either :P
17:02.34feigoh, ok, didn't know that
17:02.37feigsorry
17:04.00rhsanbornoh well
17:08.13feigrhasnborn: looks like busybox has telnet in it
17:08.24feighttp://maemo.org/downloads/product/busybox/
17:11.18kulvethe stock busybox in n800 seems not to have telnet support
17:11.31kulveNokia-N800-10:~# busybox telnet
17:11.31kulvetelnet: applet not found
17:12.48feigno?
17:12.50feighuh
17:14.16feigsorry, i have a 770
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17:16.04rhsanbornthx for looking...
17:16.29rhsanbornLike I said, it isn't a big deal. I can actually setup my home pc with ssh and then I can ssh to home and telnet to the game if I want to :P
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17:17.12feighahaha
17:17.18feigsounds like something i would do
17:17.24rhsanborn:P
17:17.25feigoh wait, no i _do_ do that
17:17.28feighehe
17:17.41rhsanbornI probably should do that so that I don't waste so much time on silly games :P
17:17.52feiggood idea
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17:55.02victory747hi, has anyone noticed bad battery life when booting off the MMC card instead of the internal flash?
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18:08.07kulvenope
18:26.01vneseok, now i can port my gtk+ app successfully  in the scratchbox, what should i do next to make it in the maemo Task Navigator menu? do i need to create .desktop and .service file ?
18:26.28b0unc3vnese: yes
18:27.33vneseb0unc3:  in which folder will i create myapp.desktop and myapp.service ?
18:28.59b0unc3vnese: the .destkop files goes under /usr/share/applications/hildon/ and .service file under /usr/share/dbus-1/services/
18:30.10kulvehttp://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html
18:31.11zuhTo be exact, http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial_bora.html#integration
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19:22.39vnesehhmmm
19:23.04vnesei created those 2 files, restart Xephyr
19:23.11vnesebut i cant find my app
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22:12.18trevarthanHey, does anyone here use OGG?
22:12.51trevarthanI'm curious if it uses ID3 tags?
22:13.51Fatalnope, they normally use vorbis tags if you're refering to music
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22:58.27Blacksitoxhello
22:58.41Blacksitoxhow install kismet on nokia n800 ?
23:06.49Blacksitoxwhat sniffer wireless for n800 ?
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23:36.41trevarthanHas anyone here used mutagen before? http://www.sacredchao.net/quodlibet/wiki/Development/Mutagen
23:37.05trevarthanLooks like it might be a nice way to consolidate id3 and vorbis tag reading from a python app.
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