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| 01:27.26 | slow_ | hello |
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| 01:29.52 | dolfun | stop the torture |
| 01:30.09 | dolfun | stop government torture |
| 01:31.49 | slow_ | any ideas of why I'm getting "Scratchbox devkit debian not found." even if apt-get says that "scratchbox-devkit-debian is already the newest version."? |
| 01:32.46 | slow_ | ("maemo-sdk-install_3.1.sh" is the one complaining about the devkit...) |
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| 01:35.00 | dolfun | hi unique311 |
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| 01:42.31 | unique311 | hello |
| 01:42.37 | dolfun | hi hi |
| 01:42.55 | dolfun | torture... torture... torture.... |
| 01:43.05 | unique311 | tell me about it |
| 01:43.08 | dolfun | you can be tortured for no reason now |
| 01:43.29 | unique311 | sucks....i havent been playing with my n800 |
| 01:43.40 | unique311 | thats torture... |
| 01:43.56 | unique311 | ran out of stuff to do with it... |
| 01:44.17 | dolfun | well ... it's time to say fuck maemo |
| 01:44.20 | dolfun | and fuck toys |
| 01:44.33 | dolfun | we live free or die as slaves |
| 01:44.41 | dolfun | and the net is closing in |
| 01:44.48 | dolfun | and none of this maemo shit matters any more |
| 01:45.01 | dolfun | real id card |
| 01:45.07 | dolfun | global empire |
| 01:45.29 | unique311 | lol |
| 01:46.08 | Blacksitox | what the tutorial for installation the maemo in the nokia N800 ? |
| 01:46.09 | unique311 | maybe if n800 came with another OS...the linux community would embrace hacking the hell out of it... |
| 01:46.41 | dolfun | we can't work on open source |
| 01:46.47 | dolfun | if we are locked up in slave camps |
| 01:47.04 | dolfun | see there is this freedom thing that needs to be in effect |
| 01:47.16 | unique311 | i don't follow... |
| 01:47.18 | dolfun | before we can talk about fun things like PDAs and Open Source |
| 01:47.27 | dolfun | if you are locked up in a concentration camp |
| 01:47.36 | dolfun | you can't play with your MID or N800 |
| 01:47.46 | unique311 | ok |
| 01:48.48 | unique311 | concentration camps.. |
| 01:49.06 | unique311 | and this is happening where> |
| 01:49.07 | unique311 | ? |
| 01:49.15 | dolfun | USA. |
| 01:49.21 | unique311 | no its not |
| 01:49.27 | unique311 | i live in NY |
| 01:49.37 | dolfun | they exist. They are currently empty |
| 01:49.37 | unique311 | no concentration camps here... |
| 01:49.45 | Blacksitox | hey http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5486/025wo2.jpg |
| 01:49.51 | unique311 | and you know this how? |
| 01:49.51 | Blacksitox | my Nokia n800 :D |
| 01:49.58 | Blacksitox | what the tutorial for installation the maemo in the nokia N800 ? |
| 01:50.02 | Blacksitox | :( |
| 01:50.03 | dolfun | google |
| 01:50.55 | unique311 | hold on Blacksitox |
| 01:51.08 | unique311 | maemo.org |
| 01:51.11 | dolfun | sorry to spoil the fun. but we need freedom before we can have nice PDA toys |
| 01:51.14 | unique311 | tutorial section |
| 01:51.27 | unique311 | we have freedom in america.. |
| 01:51.27 | Blacksitox | unique311, my english is bad :( sorry |
| 01:51.37 | unique311 | may not be the best complete.. |
| 01:51.41 | Blacksitox | for the installation ? |
| 01:51.42 | unique311 | but better than most. |
| 01:51.55 | unique311 | http://maemo.org/development/documentation/tutorials/ |
| 01:51.59 | unique311 | try that |
| 01:52.18 | unique311 | dolfun where are you from? |
| 01:52.34 | unique311 | and do you have proof of these concentration camps in amrica? |
| 01:52.41 | Blacksitox | unique311, Im from Boliva |
| 01:52.44 | Blacksitox | Bolivia* |
| 01:52.44 | dolfun | yeah just google them - about 800 |
| 01:52.56 | Blacksitox | ups sorry |
| 01:53.03 | dolfun | hi Blacksitox |
| 01:53.10 | Blacksitox | heya dolfun |
| 01:53.13 | unique311 | dolfun you lost me.. |
| 01:53.21 | dolfun | we all need fairly free societies to do our happy computer work |
| 01:53.39 | dolfun | the bad stuff is coming real fast in the USA |
| 01:54.29 | dolfun | unique311: bad bad things going down in your country |
| 01:55.08 | unique311 | if you say so... |
| 01:55.16 | unique311 | doesn't seem that way to me.... |
| 01:55.36 | dolfun | you have to spend time researching it |
| 01:55.43 | dolfun | i won't convince you here |
| 01:55.48 | unique311 | and worry myself.. |
| 01:55.50 | unique311 | no thanks.. |
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| 01:56.17 | unique311 | i'm happy not knowing what my countries government is doing to maintain the super power status that we have now.. |
| 01:56.34 | dolfun | heh .. 2008... you have a chance to turn it around... |
| 01:56.41 | dolfun | last chance |
| 01:56.56 | unique311 | lol |
| 01:57.00 | dolfun | really |
| 01:57.28 | dolfun | it snaps shut like a trap |
| 01:57.34 | unique311 | unless aliens come to earth and fuck with the US...i doubt anything that bad is going to happen.. |
| 01:57.38 | dolfun | i am warning you now |
| 01:57.56 | dolfun | it happened in germany in 1939 |
| 01:58.01 | unique311 | warn the government.. |
| 01:58.05 | unique311 | not me.. |
| 01:58.08 | dolfun | it happened in the ussr in 1914 |
| 01:58.17 | dolfun | you are the only hope |
| 01:58.31 | unique311 | and the US is doing everything in its power not to repeat history.. |
| 01:59.00 | dolfun | no man you like maemo and the nokia because it is a free OS |
| 01:59.04 | dolfun | you can port stuff to it |
| 01:59.12 | dolfun | the nokias are about freedom |
| 01:59.21 | dolfun | apply that to the rest of your life |
| 01:59.29 | unique311 | honestly...unless the rest of the world gang up..i doubt any other country have a chance at war with the US....... |
| 01:59.42 | unique311 | now if you talking self destruction...then ok..maybe.... |
| 01:59.51 | dolfun | yes i am |
| 01:59.57 | dolfun | the rest of the world is not a threat |
| 02:00.03 | unique311 | exactly... |
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| 02:00.29 | unique311 | so how, if you know.....are we going to destroy ourselves? |
| 02:00.52 | unique311 | in theory.. |
| 02:00.53 | Sulis | couldn't china pose a threat to....everyone... |
| 02:01.08 | unique311 | no |
| 02:01.15 | unique311 | too far away.... |
| 02:01.22 | unique311 | they cannot bring the fight to us... |
| 02:01.30 | unique311 | we abosultely can bring it to them |
| 02:01.54 | Sulis | they have a navy and an air force |
| 02:01.57 | Blacksitox | speak spanish ? |
| 02:02.06 | unique311 | not as big as we do.... |
| 02:02.15 | unique311 | <---- prior navy... |
| 02:02.47 | unique311 | unless your navy have some major aircraft carrier power...you hold no weight.. |
| 02:02.57 | unique311 | we have around 14 |
| 02:03.32 | unique311 | heard the brits have around 2 or 3 |
| 02:06.51 | dolfun | unique311: no preemptive wars |
| 02:07.02 | dolfun | unique311: defend the USA |
| 02:07.09 | dolfun | don't defend corporate profits |
| 02:07.28 | Sulis | i think we have 2 |
| 02:07.28 | dolfun | don't go to war for the UN or for some corporation |
| 02:07.40 | unique311 | i know. |
| 02:07.40 | Sulis | <-- english |
| 02:07.59 | unique311 | made that mistake once already... |
| 02:08.14 | Sulis | mistake? |
| 02:09.13 | unique311 | i did operation afghanistan freedom, and operation iraqi freedom.... |
| 02:09.23 | unique311 | OEF...i was all for... |
| 02:09.36 | Sulis | ah-hah |
| 02:09.47 | unique311 | but OIF had some discrepencies i didn't like... |
| 02:10.18 | unique311 | http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/china/images/ch-cv-cdf-theme-001.jpg |
| 02:10.26 | unique311 | lol chinese aircraft carrier.. |
| 02:10.28 | unique311 | ! |
| 02:10.29 | unique311 | 1 |
| 02:10.59 | Sulis | and that seems to be a microlite taking off from it |
| 02:13.50 | unique311 | reading another article.... |
| 02:13.58 | unique311 | theriegister.co.uk |
| 02:14.07 | unique311 | a flying aircarft carrier... |
| 02:14.08 | unique311 | lol |
| 02:14.22 | unique311 | was amaze to be on one, and it stayed afloat.. |
| 02:14.30 | unique311 | one that flies...lol |
| 02:15.46 | unique311 | the microlite is doing a fly by.... |
| 02:16.03 | Sulis | ...i know, that was a joke |
| 02:18.14 | unique311 | 2.5 billion for 2 more aircraft carriers..britains royal navy... |
| 02:18.20 | unique311 | alot of money.. |
| 02:20.22 | Sulis | is that pounds or dollars? |
| 02:20.30 | unique311 | dollars |
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| 02:21.03 | Sulis | course it's a lot of money either way |
| 02:21.18 | unique311 | http://www.bobhenneman.info/china.htm |
| 02:21.21 | unique311 | check that out... |
| 02:21.29 | Sulis | the next two won't be built for several years though |
| 02:21.34 | unique311 | how do they plan to move it.. |
| 02:22.12 | unique311 | oh no....the flying aricraft carrier...lol |
| 02:23.34 | Sulis | wow, so that's actually a building...cool |
| 02:23.42 | unique311 | lol |
| 02:24.17 | dolfun | Support Ron Paul! Read his articles on lewrockwell.com. Listen to the interviews on antiwar.com |
| 02:24.27 | unique311 | build a building looking like that..imagine the real thing.. |
| 02:25.47 | dolfun | KILL THE SLIME! |
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| 03:53.12 | dolfun | heh live free |
| 03:53.17 | dolfun | support Ron Paul |
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| 05:50.19 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 07:02.22 | Andy80 | hi |
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| 07:57.57 | tigert | inz: around? |
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| 07:59.44 | inz | tigert, pong |
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| 08:09.26 | acydlord | i wish my n800 looked as vibrant as the ones in the nokia pics lol |
| 08:09.54 | acydlord | especially the whole screen being fully visible in direct sunlight part |
| 08:11.17 | X-Fade | acydlord: Yeah, it would have been nice if they used a reflective lcd.. |
| 08:11.44 | acydlord | indeed |
| 08:12.25 | acydlord | might be able to add in via a hack, bit that would be tricky |
| 08:12.37 | X-Fade | I want to browse websites while lying in my chair in the sun.. :) |
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| 08:12.51 | acydlord | and now i wish i had $250 laying around for the n800 navicore kit for geocache stuff |
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| 08:13.26 | cosmo | acydlord: it's VERY overpriced.. i'd buy it otherwise |
| 08:13.28 | X-Fade | acydlord: you can use a cheaper gps mouse for that too.. |
| 08:13.38 | acydlord | that would be nice indeed, i live in arizona, cant get away from the sun |
| 08:13.43 | cosmo | you can get a full navigator device for 199e |
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| 08:14.06 | acydlord | yeah i know, i was looking at the garmin bluetooth gps puck which i think outpost had on sale for $99 |
| 08:14.29 | cosmo | i think there have been bt gps's for sale at 60e |
| 08:14.39 | cosmo | 140e just for software..no way |
| 08:15.34 | acydlord | they should offer just the gps device without the navicore software, would probably drop the price considerably |
| 08:16.27 | inz | acyd, are you still working on the wordpress/sqlite? |
| 08:16.54 | acydlord | i havent had much time to work on it, got sidetracked with some other projects i had put on hold |
| 08:17.20 | cosmo | acydlord: you can get cheap bt gps's easily |
| 08:17.27 | inz | acyd, no pressure, just checking ;) |
| 08:17.28 | cosmo | but no way getting navicore software |
| 08:17.47 | cosmo | and maemo mapper is not an option for car navigation |
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| 08:17.58 | acydlord | maemo mapper is good enough software for the uses i'd want it for |
| 08:20.06 | gla55 | acydlord: i'd imagine the gps puck to be the same nokia pucks that are available without anything extra? |
| 08:20.16 | acydlord | i dont drive, so i'm more interested in geocaching |
| 08:20.54 | acydlord | indeed gla55 |
| 08:21.09 | gla55 | ld-3w is 90e here |
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| 08:23.44 | acydlord | i found a couple for around $70 USD but i don't know if they would work with the n800 |
| 08:25.10 | acydlord | like this holux GPSlim 240 looks nice, about the size of a large thumb drive, and it's only $80 |
| 08:25.33 | cosmo | i believe any bt gps should work |
| 08:27.03 | gla55 | yeah.. there's not that much differences |
| 08:27.09 | gla55 | this one puck i had for a while sucked though |
| 08:27.21 | gla55 | had to boot it everytime for a new connection to it |
| 08:28.56 | acydlord | this one i'm looking at has road, offroad, and marine navigation, which would be good since i'm getting back in to kayaking |
| 08:29.11 | acydlord | and they have a decent return policy, maybe i'll pick one up in a week or so |
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| 08:31.20 | acydlord | does anyoen know if anybody has a twitter app in progress or planned? |
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| 08:54.07 | florian | good morning |
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| 08:57.27 | acydlord | morning |
| 08:58.15 | Free_maN | how full saving the n770 ? |
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| 09:00.37 | osfameron | er? |
| 09:02.32 | `0660 | this empty discarding an n800. |
| 09:03.59 | `0660 | osfameron, you don't know pidgin english? :) |
| 09:04.14 | osfameron | `0660: apparently not :-) |
| 09:04.47 | `0660 | it's quite easy |
| 09:04.48 | osfameron | oooo! irssi autocompletes your nick on 0<TAB> |
| 09:05.01 | osfameron | that's handy, cos Italian keyboards don't have backtick handy... |
| 09:05.13 | `0660 | just type every word that come in your mind while trying to get something said |
| 09:05.19 | `0660 | yeah |
| 09:05.21 | `0660 | irssi <3 |
| 09:05.51 | osfameron | oh, I get the principle. It's what I use while communicating in several languages (often in English too) |
| 09:06.01 | osfameron | I just didn't get the original sentence's meaning. |
| 09:06.51 | `0660 | me neither |
| 09:07.24 | `0660 | part of the deal is that the same words are repeated as long as required or the other participant gives up :) |
| 09:08.12 | roukin | hi everybody, I have two N770 and I want them to communicate through the bluetooth. But they don't see each other! Can someone help? thx |
| 09:08.49 | osfameron | `0660: oh, I thought that was the English technique: just keep repeating the words, possibly slower and louder. After all, foreigners are only *pretending* not to speak English. |
| 09:09.07 | `0660 | :) |
| 09:09.40 | acydlord | roukin, trying to get them to communicate as in sending files back and forth? |
| 09:10.05 | roukin | yes |
| 09:10.29 | acydlord | i think you may need to install the obex applications to get them to work that way |
| 09:10.43 | acydlord | i may be mistaken though, i never tried to transfer files that way |
| 09:11.22 | roukin | ok, I take a look at this, thank you |
| 09:12.34 | acydlord | you're welcome |
| 09:26.14 | Efrael | Should I put my application's custom made 26x26 icons to $datadir/icons/hicolor/26x26/hildon ? |
| 09:28.52 | acydlord | i think so |
| 09:30.38 | zuh | $datadir/icons/hicolor/26x26/apps should be fine too (the subdir has no real meaning when searching for the icons from icon theme) |
| 09:32.05 | acydlord | i think the n800 should have come with the tango icon set |
| 09:32.58 | N800 | i think the n800 should have come with windows... <---ducks... |
| 09:33.14 | acydlord | lmao |
| 09:33.18 | Efrael | Here here! |
| 09:33.44 | acydlord | i don't know, i could just imagine it sitting on the loading screen for days |
| 09:33.51 | kulve | zuh: is it better to install few app specific icons to hicolor or to /usr/share/appname/foobar? |
| 09:34.22 | acydlord | zuh, did you replace all the default hildon icons with the tango versions? |
| 09:34.28 | kulve | I have the tango packaged for n800. I added 40x40 and 64x64 icons and removed the svgs |
| 09:34.44 | kulve | but it doesn't have links for maemo icons |
| 09:35.02 | zuh | acydlord: no, I have manually made few symlinks so that the tango versions are used instead of the maemo ones |
| 09:35.08 | kulve | i.e. most of the icons will be the same |
| 09:35.40 | acydlord | ahh |
| 09:36.37 | zuh | There's loads and loads of icons for maemo, and only some of them have similar icons in tango |
| 09:36.49 | acydlord | thats true |
| 09:37.46 | zuh | It would have helped if maemo icons would use the icon-naming spec where applicable, but well... |
| 09:38.11 | Efrael | zuh: That kulve's question is an interesting one. Is /usr/share/appname/foobar a more.. hmm.. acceptable option? |
| 09:38.40 | Efrael | The icons are application specific |
| 09:39.34 | zuh | Efrael: If it is an icon that only your application uses, yes, share/appname. (I was thinking the icons which show up in the menu) |
| 09:39.56 | Efrael | In the application's toolbar actually |
| 09:40.35 | kulve | so, install icons used in the app to share/appname and the icons used by the framework for the app into icon theme |
| 09:43.26 | Efrael | Is hildon toolbar part of the framework? |
| 09:44.48 | Efrael | In another words did you mean that since I'm using the icons in the toolbar I should install the application's custom icons to $datadir/icons/hicolor/26x26/hildon? |
| 09:45.11 | kulve | no |
| 09:45.29 | kulve | I'm meant the icons showed in navigator's menu etc |
| 09:45.42 | Efrael | Ah, I see. Okay. |
| 09:46.15 | Efrael | Thank you |
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| 10:09.05 | acydlord | anyone ever notice how websites always seem to only take a dump on you when you're odifying some code? |
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| 10:14.11 | Gathaja | does anyone have any experience on messaging with wlancond with dbus? I'm trying to request scan but the method return message has no params. |
| 10:17.45 | acydlord | sure don't, sorry |
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| 11:03.26 | MikaT | Hi all, could someone please tell me what is the recommended repository to find libdaemon-dev package for Maemo 2.2? |
| 11:05.55 | kulve | if there is one.. |
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| 12:08.08 | greedo | hi |
| 12:08.26 | greedo | i'm successfully streaming audio using mediatomb |
| 12:08.36 | greedo | i can use either canola,media streamer or media player |
| 12:08.51 | greedo | however i would like to know if there is a linux upnp media server that is able to recode videos on the fly |
| 12:08.58 | greedo | so that it matches the n800 resolution |
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| 12:09.03 | mk8 | Hi to all ... |
| 12:13.00 | MoRpHeUz | greedo: well, it's not a upnp media server...but it's going on that way... |
| 12:13.18 | greedo | "it" ? |
| 12:13.18 | MoRpHeUz | greedo: it's called gmyth-streamer |
| 12:13.41 | MoRpHeUz | greedo: take a look at my blog |
| 12:13.43 | greedo | is it part of mythtv? |
| 12:13.49 | MoRpHeUz | greedo: http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ |
| 12:14.06 | MoRpHeUz | greedo: it can also stream live-tv and recorded videos from mythtv |
| 12:14.14 | MoRpHeUz | as well another video files on disk |
| 12:14.22 | greedo | what do you mean by "recorded videos from mythtv" ? |
| 12:14.27 | greedo | can't it serve any avi or mpg file ? |
| 12:14.30 | greedo | ah right |
| 12:14.34 | greedo | sounds nice |
| 12:15.02 | greedo | can i install it from apt-get on ubuntu feisty N |
| 12:15.03 | greedo | ? |
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| 12:15.12 | MoRpHeUz | yes, you can, but it can also retrieve videos from a mythtv backend |
| 12:15.27 | MoRpHeUz | greedo: for gmyth-streamer download: |
| 12:15.30 | MoRpHeUz | svn co http://gmyth.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gmyth/trunk/gmyth-stream/server/0.3/ gms |
| 12:15.51 | MoRpHeUz | it's a beta yet |
| 12:15.59 | greedo | ok |
| 12:16.11 | MoRpHeUz | you'll need mencoder from cvs and gmyth if you want to use mythtv's features... |
| 12:16.27 | MoRpHeUz | but some people are doing tests and everything is working 100% until now =) |
| 12:17.03 | MoRpHeUz | greedo: if you want, I can help you install it.... |
| 12:17.06 | greedo | well i didn't have a look at mythtv yet, i just installed mediatomb picking it randomly among mythtv and ushare |
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| 12:23.34 | MoRpHeUz | greedo: ok...but if you want, gms can stream another content.not just mythtv's ones.. it transcodes on the fly |
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| 12:25.46 | ajturner_ | MoRpHeUz: so gmyth can in fact stream mythtv to n800? |
| 12:26.07 | MoRpHeUz | ajturner_: yes! |
| 12:26.24 | ajturner_ | MoRpHeUz: sweeet! to canola and others? |
| 12:26.26 | ajturner_ | that is awesome |
| 12:26.33 | MoRpHeUz | just received a mail from a guy in UK that is watching live tv in his n800 while he is working hehe |
| 12:26.33 | greedo | afaik, canola does not support video |
| 12:26.51 | ajturner_ | my mythtv box is borked, so I need to reinstall (was gentoo, probably redo w/ ubuntu), but will play with that immediately |
| 12:26.57 | MoRpHeUz | ajturner_: you can play using mplayer... ;-) but maybe soon other applications will support it |
| 12:27.22 | MoRpHeUz | take a look at my blog and if you need help installing (it's not easy yet...), just mail me |
| 12:28.24 | ajturner_ | MoRpHeUz: url? |
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| 12:29.17 | MoRpHeUz | http://labs.morpheuz.eng.br/blog/ |
| 12:30.21 | ajturner_ | MoRpHeUz: what disto do you use? |
| 12:30.57 | MoRpHeUz | ajturner_: we did tests on ubuntu/suse/gentoo/slackware ...all worked |
| 12:30.58 | vnese | hello all, i m a comer to maemo, on my effort to install it in my debian, i got 'Running apt-get update on 'SDK_ARMEL'. |
| 12:30.58 | vnese | Err http://repository.maemo.org bora/free Packages Could not resolve 'repository.maemo.org' i think there is problem with the proxy because I already fix the file source.list |
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| 12:31.12 | MoRpHeUz | vnese: take a look at /etc/nsswitch.conf |
| 12:31.20 | vnese | on my target ? |
| 12:31.27 | ajturner_ | MoRpHeUz: I mean you personally - what do you recommend for your mythtv box? gentoo was really nice, but updating was a PITA |
| 12:31.30 | greedo | MoRpHeUz: what do i need to get it running ? do i also need to install mythtv parts ? |
| 12:31.33 | MoRpHeUz | vnese: inside /scratchbox |
| 12:31.55 | MoRpHeUz | vnese: then make sure you have a line like this: "hosts: files dns" remove other things in front of "hosts" |
| 12:32.06 | MoRpHeUz | ajturner_: maybe ubuntu... =) |
| 12:32.28 | MoRpHeUz | greedo: you just need mythtv parts if you want to retrieve anything from mythtv... |
| 12:32.44 | MoRpHeUz | greedo: otherwise you just need mencoder from cvs and gmyth-streamer... |
| 12:32.52 | ajturner_ | MoRpHeUz: no actualy mythtv-frontend on n800? ;) |
| 12:33.01 | MoRpHeUz | not yet ;-) |
| 12:33.43 | greedo | MoRpHeUz: is it important to have mencoder from cvs ? |
| 12:33.48 | vnese | MoRpHeUz: delete everything before hosts: ... , i have like : passwd: compat group: compat shadow: compat |
| 12:33.53 | vnese | ? |
| 12:34.22 | MoRpHeUz | greedo: yes...otherwise it'll not work..it uses a feature from mencoder that is only present at this newer version (from cvs) |
| 12:34.37 | MoRpHeUz | vnese: not before, sorry...after...on the same line.. |
| 12:34.37 | greedo | MoRpHeUz: ok |
| 12:34.50 | MoRpHeUz | vnese: tell me what do you have in front of hosts.. |
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| 12:35.53 | vnese | MoRpHeUz: http://pastebin.com/929560 here you are |
| 12:36.37 | vnese | and my distro is debian etch |
| 12:36.43 | MoRpHeUz | vnese: make it be like this http://pastebin.com/929562 |
| 12:39.45 | vnese | MoRpHeUz: it works, thanks |
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| 12:44.31 | vnese | and how about the IDE, i currently have anjuta and glade3 for my gtk+ app, do you have any idea for maemo? |
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| 12:45.03 | greedo | is there a way to configure canola so that items are clickable ? instead of having to click on the up/down arrows ? |
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| 12:54.24 | vnese | guess half of the people in this room is Finnish :) |
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| 13:00.51 | tigert | maybe half |
| 13:00.53 | tigert | dunno |
| 13:00.56 | X-Fade | greedo: Yes there is. You can configure that via gconf editor.. |
| 13:03.20 | MoRpHeUz | anybody from oulo ? |
| 13:03.47 | X-Fade | tigert: I modified search.maemo.org. Are there things that you would style differently? |
| 13:03.47 | lsobral | greedo, set gconf options: /apps/canola/plugins/uifolder/free_click and /apps/canola/plugins/uicontainer/free_click to True |
| 13:04.00 | lsobral | Using command line: |
| 13:04.13 | lsobral | gconftool-2 /apps/canola/plugins/uifolder/free_click -t bool -s true |
| 13:04.21 | lsobral | gconftool-2 /apps/canola/plugins/uicontainer/free_click -t bool -s true |
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| 13:09.47 | inz | vnese, I'd guess around 20% |
| 13:19.57 | tigert | I think it looks nice |
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| 14:50.08 | suihkulokki | looks familiar? http://www.ekxd.com/productshtml/UMPC001.htm :P |
| 14:50.58 | _Shurik_ | sheesh |
| 14:50.58 | X-Fade | Wow. They moved the directional controls :) |
| 14:51.14 | X-Fade | This is a lefty device though :) |
| 14:51.36 | gla55 | heheh |
| 14:51.37 | inz | and raped it with win CE |
| 14:52.13 | X-Fade | Nah, it is all pure photoshop magic.. |
| 14:52.18 | _Shurik_ | haha |
| 14:52.33 | _Shurik_ | but.. it has skype |
| 14:52.38 | X-Fade | Well it is.. Look at the pictures ;) |
| 14:52.43 | suihkulokki | notice the first picture is photoshopped from the bloody n800 pressrelease |
| 14:52.50 | _Shurik_ | :) |
| 14:53.38 | inz | suihku, they've made a 2D rotating webcam! |
| 14:53.41 | X-Fade | 'Probucts menu' ;) |
| 14:53.56 | _Shurik_ | haaahaha |
| 14:54.13 | inz | "Game, 3D Game, nintendo Game ,flash Game," |
| 14:54.14 | _Shurik_ | "Jebus!" |
| 14:54.25 | X-Fade | Well. They did some things better. The placement of the webcam is better than on N800.. |
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| 14:56.36 | _Shurik_ | Not really. It looks like device is watching me |
| 14:57.02 | _Shurik_ | although in Comminist China n800 is watching you. |
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| 14:57.22 | Feron | allo |
| 14:58.26 | gla55 | hehe |
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| 14:58.50 | gla55 | well, their other products are the usual china design school too http://www.ekxd.com/productshtml/pmp404.htm |
| 14:59.32 | _Shurik_ | Game 404 |
| 14:59.54 | _Shurik_ | I wonder if they have any other HTTP response code games |
| 15:00.01 | _Shurik_ | 500.... 303... |
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| 16:07.43 | dpb_ | Is it known that Marbles on the 770 hacker edition isn't working? |
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| 16:08.22 | _Shurik_ | you can hardly call Marbles "working". It's more of a "playing" |
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| 16:10.00 | dpb_ | Yes I can. |
| 16:11.22 | dpb_ | When I press play the screen just flashed black and returns with a "Game paused" state |
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| 18:35.25 | sbaturzio | Aloha! |
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| 19:53.06 | Okko | Hi guys |
| 19:53.50 | Okko | Any tips on how to get 2 gigabytes of stuff from a MMC card to be readable on N800? Looking for some kind of a cheap solution that would be mobile |
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| 19:57.22 | nomis | Okko: uhm, what prevents you from pluggin it into the N800 and reading it? |
| 19:57.54 | Okko | uhm, sorry, compactflash card, not MMC |
| 19:58.10 | nomis | ah, ok. No idea then :) |
| 19:58.12 | Okko | I have CF cards in my camera and would like to upload them with N800 |
| 19:58.38 | Okko | there's lots of adapters to get a SD card inside CF, but not the other way around |
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| 20:13.29 | Jaffa | Okko: mainly cos CF is bigger than SD ;-) |
| 20:13.53 | Jaffa | USB host (experimental) + USB card reader is probably best bet, or one of those USB-mass-storage copying thingies |
| 20:14.02 | Okko | 2cm's of cable could solve the size issue |
| 20:14.24 | zyxulnaga | Okko: you can use sftp to exchange the data through your pc or laptop |
| 20:14.24 | Okko | does the usb host work on N800 without soldering? |
| 20:14.49 | Okko | zyxulnaga: the idea would be to leave pc/laptop at home while on the move and still be able to upload photos |
| 20:14.55 | suihkulokki | Okko: did you search from the mailing list archives? |
| 20:14.57 | zyxulnaga | oh |
| 20:15.39 | Okko | suihkulokki: yes, a bit earlier, but found no solution then. maybe I didn't have the right query words |
| 20:16.02 | zyxulnaga | there is a software driver that does it but is very unreliable |
| 20:16.18 | zyxulnaga | it software corrects the information rather than doing soldering |
| 20:16.27 | kakos | Okko: Yes. The USB Host chip on the N800 does supply some nominal power over the line, so you don't need to make the power injector like you did with the N770. |
| 20:17.17 | kakos | On the other hand, as people have been saying, the driver is experimental and, from what I hear, is fairly unstable. |
| 20:17.40 | zyxulnaga | why doesnt nokia fix it and release it |
| 20:17.58 | kakos | Ask Nokia |
| 20:18.17 | zyxulnaga | I'll definitely get an answer |
| 20:18.35 | kakos | Heh |
| 20:18.46 | kakos | Well, we don't know if they are or not. |
| 20:19.01 | kakos | For all we know, it could be in the next release along with SDHC support and the ability to summon magical unicorns. |
| 20:19.06 | Okko | experimental and unstable is bearable maybe, but "may cause file corruption" is not when it comes to uploading photos :) |
| 20:19.37 | kakos | Theoretically, I would hope mounting a file system read-only wouldn't corrupt your CF card. |
| 20:20.22 | zyxulnaga | not when connecting wireless usb sticks |
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| 20:22.34 | Okko | hmh, my card reader reports 500 mA of power need to Windows, wonder if it would even work with the 100 mA of N800 |
| 20:26.06 | zyxulnaga | it depends on the reader I think, and the resulting speed you get |
| 20:29.32 | Okko | mkay |
| 20:29.46 | Okko | soo anyway, nobody has found a direct adaptor? |
| 20:29.54 | Okko | that would be the most hassle-free if it would exist :) |
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| 20:33.55 | edistar | hey, please don't kill me like the debian folks, but where exactly can I find information about setting up a dev-environment for maemo? |
| 20:34.02 | edistar | cause I want to start porting apps.. |
| 20:34.38 | Okko | edistar: sorry no pointers from me, but I think the easiest way is to use a ready-made vmware image for the environment |
| 20:35.10 | edistar | where can I get one? |
| 20:35.53 | edistar | or can I use scratchbox? |
| 20:36.02 | Okko | http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/702 from there for example? |
| 20:36.09 | Okko | (just googled it, haven't used it) |
| 20:36.25 | edistar | ok, but vmware can't emulate ARM, can it?! |
| 20:36.47 | edistar | cool, looks good |
| 20:36.47 | edistar | thanks |
| 20:37.02 | Okko | you can run the scratchbox inside linux inside vmware inside windows/linux :) |
| 20:37.14 | edistar | crickey ;) |
| 20:38.16 | edistar | so I'm running debian/vmware/ubuntu/scratchbox/maemo? |
| 20:38.57 | Okko | yes i think so |
| 20:39.11 | zyxulnaga | edistar: it emulates arm |
| 20:39.24 | zyxulnaga | and you can compile armel binaries in it |
| 20:39.40 | Okko | it's not the vmware right? it's the scratchbox that emulates arm? |
| 20:39.44 | zyxulnaga | but its limited if you want to access n800 hw and test that |
| 20:40.00 | zyxulnaga | I was talking about scratchbox |
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| 20:43.02 | edistar | I just want to compile simple programs for my 770 |
| 20:43.26 | edistar | maybe port tiemu to the nokia.. |
| 20:43.30 | edistar | anyone tried this before? |
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| 20:43.48 | feig | i wouldn't mind seeing that |
| 20:44.01 | edistar | exactly.. |
| 20:44.23 | feig | although octave works really well |
| 20:44.50 | etrunko | edistar: for 770 try INSTALL.txt in this page: http://repository.maemo.org/stable/gregale/ |
| 20:45.37 | edistar | thanks |
| 20:46.18 | etrunko | np |
| 20:46.31 | edistar | octave... is there a port for maemo? |
| 20:46.32 | edistar | cool |
| 20:46.34 | edistar | :) |
| 20:46.44 | edistar | but it doesn't have such an easy gui/keyboard ;) |
| 20:46.57 | feig | well, you run it under xterm |
| 20:47.08 | edistar | btw, can anyone recommend a good bt keyboard? |
| 20:47.10 | feig | but it works fine |
| 20:47.19 | feig | even some of the gnuplot stuff (i think) |
| 20:47.36 | feig | what size keyboard? |
| 20:47.54 | edistar | a little smaller than normal |
| 20:47.59 | edistar | for taking around too.. |
| 20:48.23 | feig | oh, i have a full sized, and a tiny thumboard style |
| 20:48.56 | edistar | thumboard sounds cool |
| 20:48.59 | feig | the thumboard was basically a waste, although it works fine, it's not exactly easy to type, especially while holding 770 |
| 20:49.08 | edistar | which one is it? |
| 20:49.21 | feig | freedom mini or something, lemme check |
| 20:49.23 | edistar | I am a pianist, so maybe my fingers are exact enough.. |
| 20:50.43 | feig | http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4989.html |
| 20:50.54 | feig | the one in the first pic on that page |
| 20:50.56 | edistar | thanks |
| 20:51.42 | edistar | but you can't recommend it? bad quality material too or not? |
| 20:51.45 | feig | i just thought it was a bit cumbersome to use, trying to hold the device and the keyboard, and type at the same time (esp on the train) |
| 20:52.07 | edistar | hehe, I'd use it in the train too.. |
| 20:52.43 | feig | i actually tried to thumb with the onscreen keyboard, and found it pretty usable |
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| 20:53.03 | edistar | I tried too... but it's to slow for me... |
| 20:53.16 | edistar | and my screen is already dull where some keys are by the pen.. |
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| 20:53.56 | feig | oh, gotcha |
| 20:54.39 | edistar | hmhm |
| 20:54.59 | edistar | so I'm looking for an 'external solution' ;) |
| 20:55.09 | feig | but, it looks like they ditched the mini in favor of the 'slim' |
| 20:55.10 | feig | http://www.freedominput.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=13&Itemid=30 |
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| 20:55.41 | feig | which looks a lot like the input on a razr phone, which i really don't like, as it's really tough to figure out what key your finger's on |
| 20:55.51 | edistar | that is true |
| 20:56.06 | edistar | I don't like lazered keys because you can slip so easily |
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| 20:56.29 | feig | i really wanted to try one of those |
| 20:56.56 | edistar | try what? |
| 20:57.12 | feig | a laser keyboard |
| 20:57.52 | edistar | ah |
| 20:57.53 | edistar | yes |
| 20:58.00 | edistar | it's like the razr ;) |
| 20:58.04 | feig | hah |
| 20:58.11 | edistar | :P |
| 20:58.19 | feig | yea, that's why i got the one that i did |
| 20:59.08 | edistar | which one was that again? |
| 21:00.18 | feig | the freedom mini |
| 21:00.33 | edistar | hehe, and the other? |
| 21:01.34 | feig | the other one i have? |
| 21:01.46 | edistar | yes |
| 21:01.56 | feig | it's just an old microsoft bluetooth keyboard, i think their first gen bt desktop stuff |
| 21:02.11 | edistar | ok.. |
| 21:02.15 | feig | it's big |
| 21:02.26 | edistar | don't like micro$ eben though their hardware is supposed to be good |
| 21:02.51 | feig | yea, i don't either, it was a few years ago |
| 21:03.01 | edistar | I still have a microsoft mouse.. |
| 21:03.02 | feig | and it does work fine under linux =) |
| 21:03.34 | edistar | yes |
| 21:06.24 | feig | ... actually, if you had something that would hold the 770, somehow attached to the keyboard, the freedom mini would probably be fine |
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| 21:12.13 | edistar | I'll have a look around.. |
| 21:12.29 | feig | yea |
| 21:12.57 | edistar | cause I want to somehow not ruin my screen completely ;) |
| 21:13.11 | feig | yea, that's probably a good idea |
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| 21:19.17 | edistar | good night @all! |
| 21:19.21 | edistar | cya around :) |
| 21:19.26 | edistar | thanks for all the info:) |
| 21:20.14 | feig | later |
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| 21:31.09 | gNico | Hi |
| 21:31.22 | gNico | anybody here ? |
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| 22:07.31 | Daniellion | WOW im surprised there are this many people COOL |
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| 22:20.05 | vnese | hello, i am a linux, gtk user, i just move to maemo, is there any book or tutorial about developing gui in maemo, i got the documentation at the main site but still confused and found it difficult |
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| 22:37.40 | Andy80 | hi |
| 22:37.55 | Andy80 | I've seen that there's the 0.2 version of Minimo for N800 |
| 22:38.01 | Andy80 | is it available for n770 too? |
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