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| 02:04.39 | kakos | Is it possible to program custom input methods? |
| 02:06.17 | derf | Yes. |
| 02:19.48 | kakos | How come I haven't ever seen one? The input methods on Maemo is okay, but it could be better. |
| 02:20.52 | derf | You mean, like, for example, http://maemocjk.garage.maemo.org/ |
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| 02:55.20 | edt | how do you find the urls to use with maemomapper? |
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| 03:08.35 | GeneralAntilles | They're on the forums over at internettablettalk.com |
| 03:08.50 | GeneralAntilles | Actually, the recent versions of MM should download them for you. |
| 03:09.02 | GeneralAntilles | Hit download in the map repositories window. |
| 03:12.40 | kakos | derf: Huh. Never noticed that. |
| 03:33.34 | cesman | edt: have you search the forums at Internet Tablet Talk? |
| 03:33.43 | cesman | http://internettablettalk.com/ |
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| 03:56.12 | SeRi | man so bored.... I need some new apps to play with in my N800 :) |
| 04:03.42 | N800 | same |
| 04:03.43 | N800 | compiled a bunch of camera apps.. |
| 04:03.43 | N800 | but can't seem to get them to work.. |
| 04:03.43 | SeRi | any streaming ones? |
| 04:04.40 | N800 | all of them.. |
| 04:04.48 | N800 | but can't get the camera called.. |
| 04:05.04 | SeRi | ahhh |
| 04:05.16 | N800 | the ffmpeg motion....works..actually got it connected via winamp... |
| 04:05.22 | N800 | but thats all.. |
| 04:05.24 | N800 | no pics.. |
| 04:05.29 | N800 | video |
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| 04:09.14 | SeRi | did you read the api call on maemo for the camera? |
| 04:09.14 | cesman | The original "camera" app that is include w/ the N800 takes picture VERY fast, you could snap snap snap |
| 04:09.14 | cesman | the newer ones are very slow |
| 04:09.37 | cesman | IMHO, the new features doesn't make up for the slowness :( |
| 04:10.06 | SeRi | I rether sacrifice speed and gaina feature :) |
| 04:10.17 | N800 | yes |
| 04:10.32 | N800 | i read the api call for it.. |
| 04:10.49 | cesman | not if the feautes, like the first camera was just a "prettier" GUI |
| 04:11.27 | SeRi | there was no video option... at least they are making a attempt for video... |
| 04:12.20 | SeRi | I just wish it was better :) |
| 04:12.38 | SeRi | or at least it could be share with family |
| 04:29.48 | GeneralAntilles | I just want to be able to video chat with somebody. |
| 04:30.04 | GeneralAntilles | Everybody I know is either on Mac or too incompetent. |
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| 04:38.03 | N800 | lol |
| 04:38.15 | N800 | skype users video chat.... |
| 04:38.37 | N800 | but skype seems to be a dream right now... |
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| 05:57.31 | Synt1 | hi there |
| 05:57.32 | dbudb | so... |
| 05:57.32 | dbudb | i have a little (<100 lines) C-Programm for my n800 wich uses gstreamer and doesn't work - is somebody willed to look over it and tell me what i'm doing wrong?? |
| 05:57.32 | dbudb | i really can't find any more ressources to look at |
| 06:10.21 | N800 | python setup.py build seems to be trying to use.. |
| 06:10.42 | N800 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:11.03 | N800 | how do i get it to use the valid gcc |
| 06:12.22 | N800 | correct folder seems to be |
| 06:12.50 | N800 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:13.31 | N800 | getting these errors from it calling the incorrect folder |
| 06:13.54 | N800 | unable to execute /scratchbox/compilers/host-gcc/bin/gcc: No such file or directory |
| 06:13.54 | N800 | error: command '/scratchbox/compilers/host-gcc/bin/gcc' failed with exit status 1 |
| 06:17.54 | kulve | building python is a bit more trickier than building "normal" apps, since the python builds first some version of python which is then used to build the rest. I never managed to build it.. |
| 06:18.35 | N800 | im here looking for a make file or a configure file.... |
| 06:18.52 | N800 | im so new |
| 06:19.05 | kulve | then python is not the best place to start ;) |
| 06:19.19 | kulve | is there something wrong with existing python packages? |
| 06:19.21 | N800 | so how do i call the correct GCC |
| 06:19.30 | kulve | like I said, I never managed to do it |
| 06:19.41 | N800 | before running the pthon setup.py |
| 06:19.54 | N800 | wheres kontorri when ya need him |
| 06:20.26 | kulve | I would guess he can't help you either, he probably just uses python.. |
| 06:20.28 | kulve | is there something wrong with existing python packages? |
| 06:20.35 | N800 | no |
| 06:20.44 | kulve | why then you are trying to compile them? |
| 06:21.00 | N800 | i'm trying to compile a module |
| 06:21.12 | N800 | http://zope.org/Products/ZopeInterface/ |
| 06:21.48 | kulve | ok |
| 06:22.27 | N800 | i know.let me visit the python channel |
| 06:22.46 | kulve | try asking from the people who build the python packages for maemo.. |
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| 06:39.54 | Gathaja | I'm trying to use system("sudo iwconfig etc"); in my program, it works nice but I can't get rid of the password asking. I added iwconfig and my program to the sudoers with NOPASSWD tags but still it keeps asking for password. How could I get it running without password? |
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| 06:54.33 | N800 | got it |
| 06:54.49 | N800 | using python was the mistake.. |
| 06:55.01 | N800 | i tried using python2.5 and that work... |
| 06:55.03 | N800 | yeah |
| 06:56.03 | dbudb | does somebody know whats wrong when the scratchbox cannot apt-get update?? |
| 06:57.01 | dbudb | i get a lot of "Failed to fetch http://repository.dummy.com Could not resolve 'repository.dummy.com'" |
| 06:57.44 | SeRi | Gathaja: echo "user ALL = NOPASSWD: /bin/su" >> /etc/sudoers |
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| 06:59.26 | dbudb | wget google.at |
| 06:59.28 | dbudb | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:00.54 | inz | dbudb, check your /scratchbox/etc/nsswitch.conf (and resolv.conf) |
| 07:01.26 | dbudb | what should be there(or not there)?? |
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| 07:01.54 | inz | dbudb, http://lists.scratchbox.org/pipermail/scratchbox-users/2007-March/000906.html |
| 07:04.30 | dbudb | now i've changed that one - but it does not affect it... |
| 07:04.41 | dbudb | ...do i have to restart in the old windows manner?? |
| 07:07.07 | dbudb | inz: do i have to restart?? or to reload any programm?? |
| 07:07.30 | inz | dbudb, you shouldn't need to restart anything |
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| 07:08.00 | dbudb | [sbox-SDK_ARMEL: ~] > cat /scratchbox/etc/nsswitch.conf | grep hosts |
| 07:08.06 | dbudb | hosts: files dsn |
| 07:08.26 | dbudb | crap |
| 07:08.38 | inz | =) |
| 07:08.38 | dbudb | dsn and dns may beee two different things |
| 07:09.08 | dbudb | i hate myself soo much.. ;) |
| 07:09.22 | dbudb | wooohow - works!! |
| 07:09.53 | inz | great |
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| 07:19.28 | Gathaja | for some reason my program doesn't seem to run at all with sudo |
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| 07:35.12 | Gathaja | why would osso_initialize(..) fail only when runnin as root? |
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| 07:36.00 | inz | Gathaja, sudo does some environment mangling... |
| 07:36.25 | Gathaja | okay |
| 07:36.46 | inz | Gathaja, does sudo run-standalone.sh <programname> work? |
| 07:37.42 | Gathaja | sudo: must be setuid root |
| 07:38.01 | inz | ah, then you need to alter the sudoers too |
| 07:38.23 | inz | err... |
| 07:40.47 | Gathaja | sigh |
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| 08:20.37 | sbaturzio | Aloha! |
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| 08:55.09 | dbudb | i have no n800 around me - can somebody compile a piece of code and test if it works for me (assumption: you have a n800, a .wav file on it and know how to compile for it) |
| 08:56.53 | dbudb | code would be at http://pastebin.ca/560982 |
| 09:02.50 | dbudb | little changes and with description: http://pastebin.ca/560988 |
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| 09:48.16 | Donmart | wumpus \o/ |
| 09:51.09 | wumpus | Donmart :) |
| 09:51.16 | Donmart | khad je ff gewhoist |
| 09:53.01 | konttori | kulve: are you around? |
| 09:53.07 | kulve | yup |
| 09:53.44 | konttori | I'm getting error on ogg when trying to ask for: query_position(gst.FORMAT_TIME) |
| 09:54.02 | konttori | Is there another way to get current position? |
| 09:54.12 | kulve | hmm.. I think we have had problems with the positions too |
| 09:54.23 | kulve | I'm no ogg/gst guru. I've just packaged those ;) |
| 09:54.51 | konttori | ahh.. just wondering if you had idea. |
| 09:55.10 | konttori | If not, I'll try to figure something else. |
| 09:55.19 | kulve | I think the integer ogg decorders (or gst plugins) are not very complete.. |
| 09:56.00 | kulve | try asking in the dev mailing list, I'll point kilikali gst people to it :) |
| 09:57.42 | konttori | Were you able to get seeking working in kilikali? |
| 09:58.15 | kulve | nope, but I'm not sure how much effort there has been on that.. |
| 09:59.06 | Efrael | Some broken link suggests that HildonAppView is deprecated but I don't anything that would indicate that in the new maemo pages. Is it really deprecated? |
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| 10:00.06 | kulve | yup |
| 10:00.13 | kulve | (I think) |
| 10:00.47 | inz | And in sardine (hildon-1) the code has been removed |
| 10:01.02 | kulve | HildonProgram replaced HildonApp, dunno about the view though.. |
| 10:01.12 | inz | HildonWindow replaces HildonAppView |
| 10:01.30 | kulve | yeah, I was just about paste the code about that :) |
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| 10:03.08 | Efrael | Ah, yes. HildonWindow has the things I wanted. |
| 10:03.15 | Efrael | Thank you |
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| 10:03.54 | dev | dbudb: gst-launch-0.10 filesrc location=yahoo.wav ! wavparse ! dsppcmsink works on my N800 |
| 10:04.30 | dev | dbudb: if that helps you |
| 10:13.01 | konttori | kulve: Is there any way to know that playing ogg has ended? |
| 10:13.35 | konttori | player.getstate stays in GST_STATE_PLAYING even after the song has ended. |
| 10:15.26 | kulve | we get EOS signal (or something like that) |
| 10:18.11 | konttori | How can I get that? |
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| 10:20.49 | kulve | /* Bus callback to get end of stream and errors */ |
| 10:21.02 | kulve | we have some callback set to get messages and one of them is EOS |
| 10:21.59 | konttori | ok. |
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| 10:59.37 | Efrael | I can't find an example on how to use those HildonWindows. What's the equivalent of hildon_app_set_appview()? Do I just gtk_widget_hide() the other and then gtk_widget_show() the other? |
| 11:00.58 | inz | Efreal, if you want to change from one window to another, then yes |
| 11:01.22 | Efrael | Yep |
| 11:01.27 | inz | Efrael, if you just want to get the other window on top, I think you could use gtk_window_present |
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| 11:06.41 | Efrael | Hm, that might work too |
| 11:18.20 | konttori | If you guys have noticed on the maemo roadmap is the support for BT headsets |
| 11:21.25 | kulve | I tried years ago my bt headset (mono) on my desktop computer. The sounds was so bad that I haven't really wanted to hear it again ;) Of course newer headsets might be totally different.. |
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| 12:48.02 | fatal- | argh.. what would be the correct line to add to sources.list so I could fetch the source from the debian tree directly. the maemo tree is rather sparse |
| 12:49.58 | inz | fatal-, deb-src http://<some-debian-mirror>/debian <stable/testing/unstable> main |
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| 12:50.31 | inz | fatal-, for example deb-src http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian testing main |
| 12:52.58 | fatal- | hmm, thanks |
| 12:54.01 | kulve | yeah, just copy the deb line and change it to deb-src |
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| 13:06.39 | konttori | Hey, is there a tool that I can use with n800 to take screenshots? |
| 13:07.52 | inz | apt-get install osso-screenshot-tool |
| 13:08.32 | konttori | no task bar application anymore? |
| 13:08.50 | inz | osso-statusbar-cpu can use osso-screenshot-tool |
| 13:09.03 | inz | Err |
| 13:09.05 | inz | Actually |
| 13:09.14 | inz | I think the bora version is borked and doesn't contain the defaults |
| 13:09.31 | inz | Maybe the "other one" is in better shape, dunno |
| 13:11.04 | konttori | what 'other one'` |
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| 13:26.34 | etrunko | konttori: you can install osso-screenshot-tool from command line |
| 13:27.09 | konttori | I installed it and it seems to work. I just liked the status bar icon much more. |
| 13:27.20 | konttori | It was so easy to take screenshots with that. |
| 13:27.25 | etrunko | yeah |
| 13:27.28 | pulsar__ | konttori: not quite what you asked for, but you can use vnc and take screenshots from a remote host. |
| 13:28.04 | konttori | I'm seriously missing the point why nokia doesn't include screenshot tool by default. That's probably the first thing a review writer wants. |
| 13:28.27 | konttori | And I assume Nokia want's reviews of N800 as well. |
| 13:31.25 | konttori | Anyway, NuvoBlack and NuvoPearl themes are available for download from https://garage.maemo.org/frs/?group_id=36 |
| 13:31.34 | konttori | Also theme maker 1.0 has just been uploaded there. |
| 13:32.09 | konttori | NuvoBlack is seriously cool looking black theme and NuvoPearl is a polished version of NuvoTheme. |
| 13:32.37 | konttori | After installing, set the theme manually. |
| 13:35.19 | konttori | They are both really coherent themes and do not contain unnecessary clutter. |
| 13:36.35 | tigert | konttori: there is a screenshot tool |
| 13:36.41 | konttori | Really? |
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| 13:37.09 | tigert | the cpuload applet contains a screenshot function |
| 13:38.17 | tigert | http://downloads.maemo.org/product/load-applet/ < although this is for os2006, not sure if it installs ok on latest? |
| 13:38.22 | tigert | maybe someone knows? |
| 13:38.38 | konttori | I've tested it before and then it didn't install. |
| 13:38.43 | konttori | I'll try again now. |
| 13:39.17 | tigert | hmm |
| 13:39.22 | tigert | http://maemo.org/community/wiki/OS2007_Tested_Applications |
| 13:39.25 | tigert | this says it wroks |
| 13:39.35 | tigert | but I havent tried this lately |
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| 13:41.40 | konttori | unable to install |
| 13:41.54 | konttori | application package is not compatible with current software |
| 13:43.49 | dev | konttori: http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/01/17/maemo-screen-grabber/ |
| 13:43.56 | dev | worked for me |
| 13:44.46 | konttori | thanks |
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| 13:48.57 | konttori | I installed: http://gnuite.com:8080/nokia770/load-applet-run/load-applet-run_0.4.3-2_armel.deb |
| 13:50.11 | pupnik_ | ok this website has amazing design (use of video). www.RonPaulTV.com |
| 13:50.39 | pupnik_ | how does it do the special effects on the video? Argh! |
| 13:51.40 | gla55 | special fx? |
| 13:52.00 | pupnik_ | yeah when switching channels it does real-time effects on the video stream |
| 13:53.21 | gla55 | the effect is on a still |
| 13:53.26 | gla55 | hmm |
| 13:53.55 | gla55 | such effect should be quite doable in flash which the page uses.. |
| 13:54.08 | gla55 | does the site require flash 9? |
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| 13:56.26 | pupnik_ | i use iceweasel + flash plugin |
| 13:58.02 | pupnik_ | they are really not simple effects gla55, - they speak to someone who really understands the codecs used and can modify the stream in realtime |
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| 13:59.41 | pupnik_ | and no, flash itself doesn't provide for any kind of video distortions like you see there -- not the seperating of chroma/luma info etc. |
| 14:00.03 | pupnik_ | that is some seriously advanced real-time video stream hackery |
| 14:00.06 | pupnik_ | black magic! :D |
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| 14:03.55 | gla55 | pupnik_: it just happens to a still of the video? isn't it possible nowadays to grab a frame of video? |
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| 14:10.13 | pupnik_ | agree, it's grabbing a frame of the ending video and the next starting one, then generating the flv transition stream in real time |
| 14:10.51 | pupnik_ | it's not happening on the client side in flash, afaict |
| 14:11.33 | pupnik_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:12.55 | gla55 | i don't really see the effect having anything to do with the next starting stream? |
| 14:14.32 | gla55 | just not that high fps twist and static and then the next stream starts |
| 14:17.44 | pupnik_ | oh i need to look again |
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| 14:19.13 | pupnik_ | youre right |
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| 15:32.17 | Sho_ | Hm, what would be the easiest way to avoid sshd starting after installing OpenSSH? |
| 15:33.14 | mgedmin | somebody ought to separate openssh into independent client and server packages |
| 15:33.23 | Sho_ | that would be nice, yes |
| 15:33.28 | mgedmin | like it's done in ubuntu |
| 15:33.36 | Sho_ | I'm hesitant to enable RD mode and what not to gain root and muck about with the runlevel stuff |
| 15:35.49 | Sho_ | ah, apparently there is an update-rc.d to configure boot services |
| 15:35.55 | Sho_ | maybe that even works without root *tries* |
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| 16:31.55 | cesman | has anyone gotten Google's traffic view working w/ Maemo Mapper?! |
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| 16:34.08 | `0660 | i wonder how it's supposed to work with mm |
| 16:34.18 | `0660 | but can you use it with opera? |
| 16:38.11 | cesman | yes, I can |
| 16:39.01 | cesman | I don't know if it can... My initial guess is that the URI is different |
| 16:39.22 | cesman | traffice only works in certain regions and zoom levels |
| 16:39.32 | cesman | s/traffice/traffic |
| 16:45.12 | `0660 | my guess is that it requires javascript |
| 16:45.20 | `0660 | which mm does not have |
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| 17:30.36 | SeRi | Konttori thanks for the new themes |
| 17:30.58 | konttori | Cool. Did you try them both? |
| 17:31.41 | SeRi | I am now.... |
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| 17:47.01 | SeRi | Kontori arethis done with 12pt? |
| 17:47.08 | SeRi | are this* |
| 17:51.17 | SeRi | ops |
| 17:52.39 | SeRi | Konttori: They are very nice!!! the NuvoNlack is preaty sharp! They are not 12pt right?!? I am in to the small fonts :) |
| 17:53.06 | konttori | They are 12 |
| 17:53.26 | konttori | Just download theme maker and change the font size. Both themes are included as default templates. |
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| 17:55.35 | Lyndon | konttori: btw, i tested your player and noticed that there's a problem when you have more than 23 songs in a album, cos you can't see them... |
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| 18:00.13 | SeRi | sweet! Thanks Kontorri! |
| 18:00.20 | SeRi | damn typos |
| 18:02.36 | konttori | Lyndon: Indeed. It's a problem. I just haven't had the time to fix it. |
| 18:03.01 | konttori | I hoped 23 would be good enough so that people can live with it until I am able to find a good solution for it. |
| 18:06.34 | Lyndon | good to know, try to find more pleasing than canolas ;) |
| 18:08.15 | konttori | what does it use? |
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| 18:14.05 | Lyndon | well the problem is that you have to scroll with arrows over the song that you wan't to play, so you can't just tap over it... |
| 18:14.19 | trevarthan | Does anyone know what kind of a gstreamer sink maemo uses by default? |
| 18:14.41 | trevarthan | hey konttori |
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| 18:19.40 | kulve | is there any default sink.. |
| 18:20.17 | trevarthan | looks like they use dspmp3sink usually. |
| 18:20.22 | trevarthan | for mp3 anyway |
| 18:20.36 | kulve | yeah, and dsppcmsink for pcm |
| 18:20.54 | trevarthan | I'm wondering if that uses ALSA in the background, or OSS? |
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| 18:21.34 | kulve | it's other way around |
| 18:21.35 | konttori | hey trevarhan |
| 18:21.45 | kulve | all audio goes through dsp |
| 18:22.04 | kulve | so it's not like a desktop system which has alsa or oss |
| 18:22.12 | kulve | (well, alsa nowadays) |
| 18:23.06 | trevarthan | Alsa exists on the n800. And dspmp3sink is the final stop in the gst pipeline. So either it writes directly to the device, or it uses ALSA SPDIF or something. I'm just curious what happens. |
| 18:23.37 | trevarthan | Is dspmp3sink closed source? |
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| 18:24.10 | dev | trevarthan: yes |
| 18:24.15 | trevarthan | damn. |
| 18:24.36 | trevarthan | does it pass through alsa? Or does it write directly to the hardware? |
| 18:24.53 | dev | isn't there any other way to feed that audiodata into that bluetooth system? |
| 18:25.24 | trevarthan | like what? |
| 18:25.40 | zuh | trevarthan: It passes the mp3 stream to the dsp which decodes and outputs it |
| 18:26.15 | trevarthan | zuh: but how does it get it to the dsp? by writing to /dev/dsp*? through a kernel API directly? how? |
| 18:26.43 | trevarthan | Cause /dev/dsp* are alsa devices, aren't they? I might be able to reroute those using alsa config files. |
| 18:26.57 | dev | build a sink that gets feeded with the decoded audio-data and transfers that into a higher level of that a2dp stack |
| 18:27.24 | zuh | actually /dev/dsp are oss thing, alsa stuff is under /dev/snd ;) (afaik) |
| 18:27.25 | trevarthan | dev: is there a way to change which gst sink an application uses? |
| 18:27.34 | trevarthan | I thought the sinks were hard coded. |
| 18:27.42 | zuh | Most likely they are |
| 18:28.06 | dev | sure, but one can change them in ones own application |
| 18:28.08 | trevarthan | zuh: /dev/dsp is an alsa thing when alsa is installed. Uses an emulation layer. |
| 18:28.52 | trevarthan | dev: yeah. I'm hoping to change the existing applications and save the work. Of course we can write new apps however we want. I'm hoping to salvage the use of canola and friends. |
| 18:29.07 | zuh | So it's an emulation layer, not The Alsa Way ;) |
| 18:29.48 | trevarthan | zuh: point is /dev/dsp* are usually able to be re-routed using alsa config files on an alsa system. |
| 18:30.02 | zuh | I'm not 100% sure how the data is transferred to the dsp processor, but I'm fairly certain it doesn't involve anything visible in the file system |
| 18:30.42 | trevarthan | so probably dspmp3sink bypasses the alsa api? |
| 18:31.18 | wumpus | there's some document about the DSP api for linux which explains how it is done |
| 18:31.32 | wumpus | it's fairly standardized |
| 18:31.56 | zuh | ...or not, apparently http://dspgateway.sourceforge.net/pub/index.php?Page=What_Is _does_ say it might go somewhere under /dev |
| 18:33.26 | trevarthan | that's the linux kernel way... |
| 18:33.45 | wumpus | there's also source code for the mp3 sink etc somewhere, using that dspgateway |
| 18:34.17 | trevarthan | oh cool. so it's not proprietary. only the kernel module is. |
| 18:35.35 | trevarthan | ARG. Sometimes when I hit CTRL+C during a remote SSH session to my n800 it closes the session but hangs to tty open. When that happens enough I run out of ttys and have to reboot. Any way to free them up? |
| 18:37.18 | zuh | Hmm, /dev/dsptask/ seems to contain some stuff |
| 18:39.43 | zuh | dunno if you can use them directly... |
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| 18:44.22 | kulve | afaik, the dsp writes the audio to audio hardware codec. Alsa and oss has nothing to do here |
| 18:44.38 | kulve | the alsa layer just writes data to dsp pretending to be an alsa driver |
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| 18:50.06 | trevarthan | well, I'll have to read more about that dsp gateway stuff later. Boss is back. :) |
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| 18:57.56 | kulve | the dsp gateway stuff is opensource and it doesn't dictate about audio usage |
| 18:58.38 | kulve | but the way that it200x uses the dsp tasks do |
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| 20:13.57 | Sho_ | btw, does maemo automatically take care of uninstalling orphaned dependencies? |
| 20:15.15 | tko_ | Sho_, the application manager does afaik |
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| 20:16.25 | pupnik | wooooooooooo! |
| 20:16.35 | pupnik | Viva la Revolution!!! |
| 20:17.18 | Sho_ | tko_: let's see if uninstalling canola also removes avahi-daemon, then .. |
| 20:37.16 | pupnik | anybody done any work on snes emulators? |
| 20:39.14 | gla55 | nah. only ever rudely ported one nes emu to symbian.. |
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| 20:43.41 | Sho_ | tko_: seems to take care of it, cool |
| 20:44.21 | pupnik | apparently zsnes now has 100% c code |
| 20:44.22 | Sho_ | Canola seemed nice, but there's no way to manually type in the host and port of a DAAP server, and I can't get avahi/multicast to work in this convoluted LAN for the live of me |
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| 20:44.38 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: :-( |
| 20:44.51 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: canola provides no input (typing) so far |
| 20:45.13 | Sho_ | k-s[WORK]: I'd be okay with editing some config file, really :) |
| 20:45.27 | Sho_ | k-s[WORK]: some way to add something to the "Shared Music" list without relying on avahi |
| 20:45.53 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: check if there is a way to hardcode it in a config file avahi uses |
| 20:46.09 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: you can use upnp, but you'd fall in the same multicast issue |
| 20:46.28 | Sho_ | hmm, not a bad idea, maybe I can use an avahi-daemon config to trick Canola :) |
| 20:47.59 | k-s[WORK] | yes |
| 20:48.45 | Sho_ | k-s[WORK]: you're a canola dev? |
| 20:48.54 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: yes |
| 20:49.28 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: some other here are, like lsobral and others not present now |
| 20:49.31 | Sho_ | k-s[WORK]: ah, nice to meet you. kde upstream here, unfortunately we don't yet have a presence on maemo I guess ;-) |
| 20:49.45 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: I'm a kde user and big fan |
| 20:50.06 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: I bring zrussin here to talk about Arthur painting system |
| 20:50.13 | k-s[WORK] | at bossa conference |
| 20:50.19 | Sho_ | k-s[WORK]: hehe. he's zackr on freenode |
| 20:51.06 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: also, there is one guy (kito or something like this), that had kde4 running on device |
| 20:51.16 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: lot of effort to compile it, but runs fine |
| 20:51.42 | Sho_ | k-s[WORK]: yup, I remember him ... he showed it around on #kde-devel a while back, which is how I learned of the device |
| 20:51.53 | k-s[WORK] | great |
| 20:52.33 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: device is almost great, the memory bus sucks so we cannot do great graphics without tearing and bluetooth is unexplored |
| 20:52.47 | k-s[WORK] | but screen is big and bright, cpu and memory not that bad |
| 20:53.08 | k-s[WORK] | we lack applications, but that is our task to solve :-) |
| 20:53.45 | Sho_ | I was looking for an affordable handheld with a sufficiently big screen to comfortably browse and read for a pretty long time, at first glance the N800 seems to make that wish come true pretty well |
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| 20:53.57 | k-s[WORK] | now I'm working on Evas and EFL port to Nokia... do you remember Enlightenment? ;-) |
| 20:54.12 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: yes, it's excellent for that |
| 20:55.36 | Sho_ | hm, I wonder if it has smbfs/cifs installed by default *looks* |
| 20:55.44 | k-s[WORK] | no |
| 20:56.12 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: you can just exchange files using upnp by default |
| 20:56.19 | Sho_ | ah hm |
| 20:56.27 | k-s[WORK] | Sho_: you can install ssh and use via "fish://" |
| 20:56.31 | Sho_ | *a |
| 20:56.51 | k-s[WORK] | I know about NFS modules, but probably you'll find smb too |
| 20:57.39 | Sho_ | looks like I'd rather want cifs.ko, because it works with busybox' mount rather than need smbclient/smbmount, I guess |
| 21:00.03 | Sho_ | ah, there's a cifs for it2007 |
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| 21:07.01 | Sho_ | hm, maemo.org becomes unresponsive quite often |
| 21:12.27 | pupnik | freedom! |
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| 21:17.02 | k-s[WORK] | gotta go |
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| 21:44.56 | Sho_ | yay, got cifs working |
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| 22:01.41 | pupnik | braaaap |
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| 22:12.35 | unique311 | sfai fer windows..not bad... |
| 22:12.40 | unique311 | safari |
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