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| 01:05.21 | N800 | ?? |
| 01:05.24 | N800 | anybody home |
| 01:12.10 | Sulis | ...nope |
| 01:12.20 | N800 | lol |
| 01:12.23 | N800 | ok |
| 01:12.28 | N800 | I'll take that.. |
| 01:12.32 | Sulis | hehe |
| 01:13.12 | Sulis | N800 is perhaps not the best nick for a channel where N800 will be said a lot... |
| 01:13.19 | N800 | I want to install another distro on the N800...think nokia would like that at all.... |
| 01:13.23 | N800 | I know.. |
| 01:13.31 | N800 | i'm unique311 |
| 01:13.37 | N800 | but N800 is fun.. |
| 01:13.47 | N800 | see alot of red lines in xchat |
| 01:13.59 | Sulis | hehe, thought you might |
| 01:15.16 | Sulis | if you want to put another distro on your n800 then go ahead and do it...i don't speak for nokia in any way whatsoever...but i can't see that they'd have a problem with that |
| 01:16.14 | N800 | its that simple |
| 01:16.29 | N800 | the dudes at #linux are talking about reflashing it.. |
| 01:16.34 | N800 | not sure thats all it takes.. |
| 01:17.02 | N800 | every device out there that don't run linux..eventually run linux... |
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| 01:18.41 | Sulis | well that would be all that it'd take to put a new distro on it |
| 01:20.30 | Sulis | do you have anything in mind, are you going for your own custom distro? |
| 01:23.24 | N800 | Actually just a thought |
| 01:23.30 | N800 | not planning on doing this.. |
| 01:23.48 | N800 | i did try the openrox |
| 01:24.41 | N800 | guess having a choice of window managers would be nice...without messing with the OS |
| 01:27.12 | Sulis | hmm, what would you put on it? |
| 01:30.47 | N800 | something light...xfce would be nice... |
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| 01:38.50 | Sulis | hmm, that would require that you have some way to fake a right and middle click |
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| 01:59.42 | neostrider | hey folks |
| 02:00.02 | neostrider | anyone knows how to turn off that annoying noise the rocker provokes when pressed? |
| 02:00.26 | Sulis | there's a rocker? |
| 02:00.42 | neostrider | you know, the DPAD |
| 02:02.21 | Sulis | isn't that noise the same as the noise you get when you click on something? |
| 02:04.15 | maba | it's two different sounds, and they can both be turned off in sound preferences |
| 02:05.38 | Sulis | i've never actually noticed a sound....when i'm pressing the dpad |
| 02:06.06 | neostrider | actually, I want to turn it off from my SDL application |
| 02:06.17 | neostrider | when you actually play a action game, it is annoying! |
| 02:06.37 | maba | now that's a completely different matter :) |
| 02:06.52 | maba | anyway, time to sleep, g'night |
| 02:08.04 | neostrider | for a First Person shooter, its first need |
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| 02:35.08 | N800 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mittuhu7XbA&mode=related&search= |
| 02:35.13 | N800 | 700 dollars |
| 02:50.43 | cesman | doesn't run Linux OTB... |
| 02:50.49 | cesman | whats the point? ;) |
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| 03:19.42 | neostrider | anyone knows how to turn off that click noise the D-Pad does? |
| 03:19.50 | neostrider | I mean, programaticly? |
| 03:32.11 | N800 | cesman, you can install linux on it... |
| 03:39.33 | neostrider | it will probably have poor HW support, right? |
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| 04:00.57 | brentfud | Greetings folks |
| 04:01.07 | brentfud | My N800 just keeps rebooting |
| 04:01.21 | brentfud | Any ideas how to track down the cause |
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| 04:10.17 | cesman | pity, I was just about to help him |
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| 05:08.20 | keesj | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:08.36 | keesj | cesman: It's early here :p |
| 05:08.42 | keesj | and sunday :p |
| 05:18.13 | cesman | still saturday evening here |
| 05:19.30 | keesj | sunday morning around 7 o clock :p |
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| 07:51.26 | zbowling|n800 | there is a bug in chess |
| 07:51.58 | zbowling|n800 | the computer is allowed to attack pawns sideways |
| 07:52.25 | zbowling|n800 | with other pawns |
| 07:54.07 | zbowling|n800 | why does my hand fall asleep using the stylist |
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| 08:26.24 | osfameron | hi |
| 08:26.29 | keesj | zbowling|n800: its sounds like the pragmatic developers "select on unix is broken" |
| 08:26.36 | osfameron | how can i kill metalayer-crawler ? |
| 08:27.00 | osfameron | the buggy pos is locking my mmc1 |
| 08:27.39 | keesj | osfameron: I am also constantly searching for the pin reset :p |
| 08:27.54 | suihkulo1ki | osfameron: like on linux usually.. /etc/init.d/metalayer-whatever stop |
| 08:28.12 | osfameron | ah! in /etc/init.d, ta |
| 08:28.44 | osfameron | can i stop the useless thing from /evr/ starting up again? |
| 08:30.26 | osfameron | maybe the n800's successor will have ironed out the usability issues that make this so utterly hateful |
| 08:30.34 | keesj | where can I find the midgard wiki syntax? |
| 08:30.46 | osfameron | suihkulo1ki: thanks |
| 08:41.10 | tko | keesj: I always had to resort to google.. markdown IIRC |
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| 08:48.26 | keesj | thanks I will try to experiment .. a preview would have been nice |
| 08:50.19 | dolske | zbowling|n800: are you sure it's not this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_passant |
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| 09:13.10 | keesj | I am a bit confused at to where to file bugs for the website is that in the Maemo website build with Midgard CMS or in bugzilla? |
| 09:13.51 | zuh | osfameron: You might be interested in http://tuomas.kulve.fi/blog/2007/01/27/maemo-service-handler/ |
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| 12:10.08 | keesj | what would be a go start if I want to use the a n800 and a 770 af walky talky? |
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| 16:06.11 | neostrider | hello folks |
| 16:13.54 | gla55_ | hello |
| 16:16.01 | neostrider | hey gla55 , do know anything about Gconf? |
| 16:16.08 | gla55_ | not really |
| 16:17.32 | neostrider | do you have any of the maemo devices? |
| 16:18.16 | `0660 | i know something about gconf |
| 16:18.25 | `0660 | and i have a maemo device |
| 16:19.08 | neostrider | do you know what gconf key I have to temporarily disable the d-pad "click" sound? |
| 16:19.16 | neostrider | and what device do you have? |
| 16:19.20 | `0660 | no |
| 16:19.23 | `0660 | and i have n800 |
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| 16:22.01 | neostrider | so, can you please check a gconf key for me? |
| 16:22.30 | neostrider | its /apps/osso/osso-device-applet |
| 16:22.51 | `0660 | ok |
| 16:23.12 | neostrider | thanks |
| 16:23.38 | neostrider | (I bet I can use this to identify if my game is running on a n770 or a n800 |
| 16:23.41 | neostrider | ) |
| 16:23.57 | `0660 | i don't have that key |
| 16:24.14 | neostrider | strange... |
| 16:24.22 | `0660 | i do have /apps/osso/osso-applet-device though... |
| 16:24.33 | neostrider | and what it does read? |
| 16:24.38 | `0660 | but it only contains a key called "device_name" |
| 16:24.49 | neostrider | and what it contains? |
| 16:25.11 | `0660 | the name i gave for the device |
| 16:25.55 | neostrider | ok...so it was a coincidence I gave my 770 the name "nokia 770" heheh ;-p |
| 16:26.05 | `0660 | :P |
| 16:26.07 | neostrider | but that key can be useful ... |
| 16:26.10 | neostrider | thanks =-) |
| 16:26.15 | neostrider | going to lunch... |
| 16:26.16 | neostrider | BRB |
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| 16:49.57 | rhsanborn | Anyone know where I might be able to snag a .deb for mutt or pine on the 800? |
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| 16:57.21 | dragorn | if it's not in the garage it probably hasn't been ported |
| 16:57.40 | rhsanborn | thx drag |
| 16:57.53 | rhsanborn | trying to find a reasonable mail cleint :P |
| 16:57.54 | dragorn | garage.maemo.com i think |
| 16:58.06 | dragorn | or maybe .org. Looks like .org from the topic |
| 16:58.22 | dragorn | being curses and terminal, it probably wouldn't be too hard to port yourself if you grabbed the devkit |
| 16:58.23 | rhsanborn | pine is listed, no linked deb |
| 16:58.40 | dragorn | try googling, might be able to find the persons home page w/ packages |
| 16:58.55 | rhsanborn | Aye, I think it'd be simply a compile, no pc for a couple months though |
| 17:01.25 | dragorn | it's not as useful as you'd hope though, since it's a small screen, cut in half by using the on-screen keyboard |
| 17:01.40 | dragorn | (having run other curses apps, you really face some size problems) |
| 17:03.00 | rhsanborn | perhaps I'll have to look for a different mail app that someone has already ported |
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| 17:21.01 | neostrider | so, folks...whtas going on? |
| 17:21.09 | neostrider | any news from your personal projects? |
| 17:24.02 | konttori | neostrider: Have you checked UKMP? |
| 17:24.10 | konttori | 1.0 on wednesday |
| 17:24.31 | konttori | 1.01 brewing currently. |
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| 17:25.35 | neostrider | no |
| 17:25.48 | neostrider | actually, I dont even know what it is |
| 17:26.04 | neostrider | sorry |
| 17:26.06 | neostrider | can u explain to me? |
| 17:27.13 | konttori | music player. Have a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCIANUJ-ctg |
| 17:27.25 | konttori | 2 minutes. shows it pretty completely |
| 17:34.52 | neostrider | konttori : starting the video....nice theme on the device ;-) |
| 17:35.13 | konttori | thanks. It's nuvo. |
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| 17:37.39 | neostrider | by the way |
| 17:37.42 | neostrider | really COOL! |
| 17:37.50 | neostrider | have you tested on 770? |
| 17:37.54 | konttori | Yeah |
| 17:38.02 | konttori | Works just fine |
| 17:38.04 | neostrider | what did you used for this?SDL? |
| 17:38.14 | konttori | SDL. Yeah. and python |
| 17:38.16 | neostrider | I will try then =-) |
| 17:38.29 | konttori | http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2007/05/ukmp-10-outhttpwwwbloggercomimggllinkgi.html |
| 17:38.31 | neostrider | looks, for me as a simpler take on the same task as canola |
| 17:38.41 | konttori | You need to have python installed. |
| 17:39.02 | konttori | I tried to keep it as straight forward to use as possible |
| 17:39.03 | neostrider | THAT is a problem |
| 17:39.10 | neostrider | I dont have acess to wifi right now... |
| 17:40.02 | konttori | You don't have any version installed? |
| 17:40.55 | konttori | a shame. Anyway, try it out when you can and let me know if you have improvement ideas. |
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| 17:42.18 | konttori | I'm at the moment working on making small improvements all around, but not feature changes. Basically the usual stuff for 1.01. |
| 17:44.14 | konttori | what are you working on? |
| 17:44.34 | gla55_ | 1.0 is just a number, just like 15 |
| 17:45.07 | neostrider | a 3D tron game |
| 17:45.27 | konttori | 1.0 Is a big thing. It means that you feel that the app is ready for normal consumer use. |
| 17:45.32 | neostrider | yeah..."I want to reach stability and a good finish...just like UKMP" |
| 17:45.45 | neostrider | the game is quite simple indeed |
| 17:46.00 | neostrider | there is no usability issues at all |
| 17:46.14 | neostrider | just "press ok to play or escape at anytime to exit" |
| 17:46.15 | konttori | Sounds like a really nice one. Do you have current screenshots? |
| 17:46.19 | neostrider | sure |
| 17:46.26 | neostrider | I have indeed a .deb |
| 17:46.32 | konttori | Do you use the pen to steer? |
| 17:46.41 | neostrider | but I wouldnt recommend it yet |
| 17:46.45 | neostrider | no |
| 17:46.46 | neostrider | the rocker |
| 17:46.50 | neostrider | its simpler |
| 17:47.00 | neostrider | but thats a good idea... |
| 17:47.06 | konttori | I feel that the rocker is such a poor design in n800. |
| 17:47.12 | neostrider | http://corporatedrones.wordpress.com/2007/05/26/angstron-major-optimizations/ |
| 17:47.24 | neostrider | yeah..the 770 is a bit better, I guess |
| 17:47.42 | konttori | I think so too. |
| 17:47.43 | neostrider | (never ever touched a n800 ,but as with the pictures...) |
| 17:47.53 | konttori | All the buttons in 770 are better than in n800. |
| 17:47.55 | neostrider | even more for a game developer |
| 17:48.24 | neostrider | I guess the "smooth body" design of the n800 makes it poor for fast action games |
| 17:48.32 | neostrider | its harder to find the keys |
| 17:48.47 | neostrider | older pictures: http://corporatedrones.wordpress.com/2007/04/28/angstron-alpha-2-on-its-way/ |
| 17:49.07 | konttori | it looks pretty cool. Does it do over 15 fps? |
| 17:50.28 | neostrider | not even nearly that heheh |
| 17:50.45 | neostrider | I get (what I think its) 7 fps on best cases |
| 17:50.51 | neostrider | but it is playable |
| 17:51.15 | neostrider | (the game its self is already very hard on a 1Ghz desktop system, with no speed issues!) |
| 17:51.26 | neostrider | (to test the later levels, I had to cheat) |
| 17:57.19 | neostrider | but on the other hand |
| 17:57.27 | neostrider | that is a multi purpose game engine |
| 17:57.46 | neostrider | its not "optimized for doing TRON 3D games" |
| 17:58.02 | neostrider | indeed Im working on a "FIRST PERSON SNIPER GAME" |
| 17:58.07 | neostrider | and a RPG |
| 18:08.43 | sbaturzio | is it possible to enable usb network on an N800 with default kernel? |
| 18:12.45 | Tahitibob | sbaturzio, yes |
| 18:13.49 | sbaturzio | so this http://maemo.org/development/documentation/how-tos/3-x/howto_usb_networking_bora.html must be updated |
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| 18:16.10 | Tahitibob | sbaturzio, whet's wrong ? |
| 18:16.21 | Tahitibob | sbaturzio, what's wrong ? |
| 18:16.54 | sbaturzio | it tells: "In order to use USB networking on your device, you need to have a development root filesystem flashed into it." |
| 18:17.54 | Tahitibob | You're right |
| 18:18.35 | Tahitibob | and some things are missing : load the g_ether.ko module |
| 18:19.14 | Tahitibob | sbaturzio, the wiki is up-to-date |
| 18:19.22 | sbaturzio | now I'm following this howto: "http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howtosetupusbnetworkingdebian/" and seems much better :-) |
| 18:23.29 | Tahitibob | sbaturzio, I followed this too |
| 18:23.54 | Tahitibob | sbaturzio, and I uses the useful script provided here : http://maemo.org/community/wiki/usbnetworkingwinxp/ |
| 18:24.10 | Tahitibob | sbaturzio, to stop/start the usbnet network |
| 18:26.32 | sbaturzio | yes, that script seems ver useful |
| 18:26.49 | sbaturzio | now we need only a .desktop file to include them on menu :-) |
| 18:27.45 | keesj | UKMP looks sexy |
| 18:27.50 | Tahitibob | With IDEA, You can add cutom shortcuts on the desktop |
| 18:28.59 | Tahitibob | sbaturzio, but menu entries are nicer |
| 18:29.19 | keesj | is ther a toc trick for the new wiki? |
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| 18:59.52 | konttori | keesj: Glad to hear you like it. |
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| 19:06.20 | konttori | keesj: Did you test it out? |
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| 19:26.54 | keesj | konttori: not yet |
| 19:27.25 | keesj | My collection is not very well organized ... |
| 19:33.09 | keesj | I am so happy with my mmc based rootfs! it totaly changes the way I think about maemo devices |
| 19:36.30 | keesj | konttori: you are right the dark skin looks better! |
| 19:36.44 | keesj | and this is python + gtk? |
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| 19:39.42 | konttori | yeah. python + sdl. |
| 19:40.01 | keesj | ok sdl.. |
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| 19:40.40 | konttori | I'll try to have a look at the light skin to make it look a bit better. |
| 19:41.13 | konttori | ukmp will orgamize your music automatically. |
| 19:41.26 | konttori | It reads the id3 tags and sorts them by album. |
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| 19:44.11 | melmoth | konttori: any ogg vorbis support on the roadmap ? :) |
| 19:45.18 | konttori | sure. |
| 19:45.28 | konttori | Hmm... Might even be possible in the very near term. |
| 19:46.13 | konttori | I've already kind of pre-tested it, so it's not that far away. |
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| 19:49.10 | melmoth | \o/ great ;) |
| 19:49.33 | konttori | I just don't use ogg, so it hasn't been priority to me |
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| 19:58.10 | konttori | Oh, I would just need to know the ogg sink name and installation stuff for testing. |
| 20:00.32 | zuh | There's no "ogg sink", only parser for the ogg format (it's a container) and decoders for the stuff inside (theora/vorbis/whatever) |
| 20:00.57 | zuh | Or I guess parser==demuxer more accurately |
| 20:01.27 | konttori | Umm... So can I then pass it to dspmp3sink? |
| 20:01.43 | zuh | tremor (the integer-only decoder for vorbis, the fastest one) IIRC does both though. |
| 20:02.05 | zuh | To dsppcmsink |
| 20:02.36 | zuh | dspmp3sink only handles mp3 AFAIK |
| 20:03.26 | konttori | Yeah. makes sense. I was just looking at barbieris python player and it seemed to use dspmp3 for both. |
| 20:03.37 | konttori | OTOH, I haven't tested it, so it might not work |
| 20:03.38 | konttori | http://www.gustavobarbieri.com.br/eagle/examples/player-maemo.py |
| 20:08.38 | konttori | Ok, i'll try asking kulve tomorrow |
| 20:08.47 | k-s | konttori: that's mine, what's up? |
| 20:08.50 | konttori | He seems to be the author of the ogg komponents |
| 20:09.02 | zuh | Yeah, he made the debs |
| 20:09.06 | konttori | Oh, just thinking of adding ogg support to ukmp |
| 20:09.37 | k-s | konttori: is it gst or what? |
| 20:09.38 | konttori | Just wondering how I should build the gst player |
| 20:09.41 | konttori | yeah |
| 20:09.48 | k-s | just create another pipeline |
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| 20:09.58 | konttori | Like, e.g. pipeline call for that would be nice. |
| 20:10.13 | k-s | unfortunately you can't use playbin or decodebin :-( |
| 20:10.19 | konttori | as in: self.player = gst.parse_launch( "gnomevfssrc name=source ! dsppcmsink name=sink" ) -> to somerhing that playes ogg ;) |
| 20:10.29 | k-s | ah |
| 20:10.33 | zuh | Add "tremor" in between |
| 20:10.41 | zuh | that'll do it |
| 20:10.49 | k-s | maybe you should use tremor and add to some sink, like esd or pcmsink |
| 20:10.58 | konttori | Really? I don't have to take any callbacks from it, do I? |
| 20:11.31 | konttori | Like this: gnomevfssrc name=source ! tremor name=decoder ! dsppcmsink name=sink |
| 20:11.37 | k-s | konttori: no, why should you? |
| 20:11.43 | konttori | Just wondering |
| 20:11.59 | k-s | i think that something like you suggested is fine |
| 20:12.04 | konttori | but cool that I don't have to! |
| 20:12.12 | k-s | you can pollute it with some queue and other things, but basically it's that |
| 20:12.22 | konttori | ok. cool stuff |
| 20:12.28 | k-s | you can ask bilboed or some other gst hackers that hang around |
| 20:12.46 | k-s | konttori: I'd go with mplayer myself :-P |
| 20:13.10 | k-s | http://barbieri-playground.googlecode.com/svn/maemo/catota/ |
| 20:13.14 | k-s | code is there to handle things |
| 20:13.16 | k-s | it's an example GTK ui |
| 20:14.14 | konttori | for mplayer? |
| 20:14.14 | k-s | yep |
| 20:14.14 | k-s | it's an experiment (catota means "snot" in pt_BR) |
| 20:14.29 | konttori | very interesting |
| 20:14.53 | konttori | But, I'd like music player to stay just that: music player. |
| 20:15.15 | k-s | konttori: ok, mplayer can play music just fine |
| 20:15.17 | konttori | So, I thik your ogg libs are wonderfull for that. |
| 20:15.32 | k-s | and manage playlists and play ogg, wma and everything you can compile in it |
| 20:16.27 | konttori | indeed. It's a wonderful program |
| 20:18.48 | konttori | How come ogg support is 1.9 megs? Quite a lot. |
| 20:19.05 | konttori | Is it full of precompilation tables? |
| 20:19.22 | konttori | precompiled lookup tables |
| 20:22.46 | suihkulo1ki | accidentally left unstripped? |
| 20:27.32 | konttori | sweet. Ogg works now. |
| 20:27.49 | konttori | ok, but my test song sucks so deep. |
| 20:27.57 | konttori | Have - to - stop - it |
| 20:29.59 | suihkulo1ki | konttori: free software song? |
| 20:30.15 | roope | olen omena. olen pyöreä omeena. |
| 20:30.21 | konttori | Nope. I don't remember where I got the song |
| 20:30.30 | konttori | never heard |
| 20:30.35 | konttori | link perhaps? |
| 20:30.43 | osfameron | zuh: thanks, checking |
| 20:39.20 | mhzhu | AFAIK, some companys build their products based on Hildon framework and don't open their source code now . eg: the MIDINUX. What can I do with them ? |
| 20:39.50 | mhzhu | I think the maemo community need do sth ... |
| 20:41.42 | k-s | mhzhu: have them to cry... eheheh |
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| 20:43.30 | mk8 | Hi to all ... |
| 20:43.34 | nomis | mhzhu: do they ship Midinux already? |
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| 20:47.05 | mhzhu | not yet now , I saw MiDINUX in IDF. The MIDLINUX is the product of Red Flag Software , and the Red Flag Software has vilotaed GPL before . |
| 20:48.24 | nomis | mhzhu: however, there is nothing to complain about if they don't distribute it. |
| 20:49.22 | nomis | the (L)GPL only kicks in if they ship their product with (L)GPL components. |
| 20:50.07 | konttori | all right. ukmp has now sweet support for ogg |
| 20:51.24 | mhzhu | oh , I see. But if they don't open the source code when they distribute the MIDLINUX. What can the community of maemo.org do ? |
| 20:52.07 | mhzhu | In deed, I don't believe Red Flag Software, they has vilotaed GPL many times |
| 20:52.53 | suihkulo1ki | mhzhu: GPL just states that if you give someone a binary, you have to give hime/her the source as well |
| 20:53.04 | suihkulo1ki | mhzhu: do you have MIDLINUX binaries= |
| 20:53.06 | suihkulo1ki | ? |
| 20:53.39 | nomis | mhzhu: there are two parties that can sue: the original authors and/or someone who got the midilinux binaries and got no sourcecode on request. |
| 20:54.12 | nomis | redflag is not obligued to make their version of the sources available to *everybody* |
| 20:56.18 | mhzhu | I see. My boss give me a demo of MIDLINUX for testing , not product. They said the MIDLINUX will be shiped in the later of 2007. |
| 20:56.24 | tko | only to anyone who can present the gpl offer |
| 20:56.25 | mhzhu | I asked red-flag for the source code but no reply. I hope the redflag will open the source code to their consumer |
| 20:57.18 | nomis | mhzhu: actually you'd probably have to ask your boss :) |
| 20:57.28 | nomis | (since he distributed the software to you...) |
| 20:58.27 | nomis | and if he got that from redflag he should have gotten a written offer for the sourcecode. |
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| 20:59.40 | suihkulo1ki | mhzhu: mhm yeah, since you have the binaries, you can definetly demand sources from them |
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| 21:01.36 | nomis | suihkulo1ki: he can ask for the sources from the party distributing the binaries to him. |
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| 21:03.25 | mhzhu | hehe , my boss said I need to ask for the source code myself and the redflag sofrware give me no reply . |
| 21:03.34 | mhzhu | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.13 | mhzhu | ASFAIK, the redflag software is the first company that build their product on Hildon framework except Nokia . I think the community need to pay attention to MIDLINUX ... |
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| 21:19.36 | edt | does the n800 handle large sd cards yet (> 2G)? |
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| 21:21.15 | zakx | edt: it does with a custom kernel |
| 21:21.42 | edt | does latest n800 kernel update handle cards bigger than 2G ? |
| 21:21.51 | edt | zakx thanks |
| 21:21.52 | zakx | afaik you can use 8gb sdhc cards with a custom kernel |
| 21:22.30 | edt | how tricky is setting up to compile your own (I do this locally for my boxes) |
| 21:22.54 | edt | so it more of a tool chain type of question |
| 21:23.10 | zakx | i haven't done that yet, but i guess it's a binary kernel anyway |
| 21:23.31 | zakx | so you should be able to apt-get it |
| 21:23.50 | edt | no. There will be binary modules but the kernel should be buildable |
| 21:24.40 | edt | that does make it easier |
| 21:24.57 | zakx | guess you'll be able to build your own using scratchbox |
| 21:25.07 | edt | as long as you can trust the source - which is usually not an issue. |
| 21:25.12 | zakx | but there are precompiled kernels for that purpose |
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| 21:28.41 | mhzhu | the video of Midinux(based on Hildon framework) --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IALqu7EKUTw , I hope I can migrate maemo to the machine :) |
| 21:29.23 | edt | there a few nice things in the pipe line for the kernel. A new scheduler which works more fairly and new filesystem designed with flash in mind (the current ones have been retro fitted to flash - they were more aimed at images on 'ram' disks) |
| 21:30.59 | edt | by 'the kernel' I mean the generic linux kernel not one specifically for the n800/n770 |
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| 23:50.49 | Andy80 | Hi |
| 23:52.05 | Andy80 | Do you know if there's an updated xchat version available for maemo? |
| 23:56.03 | Andy80 | I found maemo-xchat for os2007, but no releasevfor n770 :( why? |