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| 02:08.30 | pupnik | mo pixels mo bettuh |
| 02:09.08 | trevarthan | lol bettuh |
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| 02:26.41 | pupnik_ | quiet |
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| 02:30.51 | pupnik | 71961600 May 29 04:22 wtmp |
| 02:30.54 | pupnik | sheesh |
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| 03:40.42 | pupnik | i see maemo-launcher frequently taking up 5% cpu in top |
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| 03:41.28 | pupnik | actually no, just occasionally - then bme occasionally at 1-5 % |
| 03:42.08 | pupnik | ahh 'battery management entity' lol |
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| 04:25.57 | unique311 | pupnik |
| 04:26.01 | unique311 | news |
| 04:26.15 | unique311 | http://feelslikeburning.com/2006/04/16/reading-ebooks-on-the-nokia-770-with-fbreader |
| 04:26.38 | unique311 | screen rotate for the 770 fbreader is implemented in the app... |
| 04:26.46 | pupnik | ? yeah |
| 04:26.50 | unique311 | fbreader src |
| 04:27.09 | pupnik | xomap server has no rotated mode |
| 04:27.20 | unique311 | and locate the code used....and try an implement it on the correct POSE src file |
| 04:27.37 | unique311 | xomap? |
| 04:27.39 | unique311 | server |
| 04:28.16 | pupnik | just agreeing that the application has to rotate the display, and not the X server |
| 04:28.24 | unique311 | ok |
| 04:28.36 | zuh | pupnik: Untrue: http://syslog.movial.fi/archives/7-xrandr-on-nokia-770.html |
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| 04:28.39 | unique311 | so i should email the developer.... |
| 04:28.44 | pupnik | hrm |
| 04:29.09 | pupnik | with a stock kernel: true |
| 04:29.10 | zuh | But naturally, that's not available out-of-the-box (as usual...) |
| 04:29.35 | unique311 | double hmmmm |
| 04:30.14 | unique311 | http://lemody.blogspot.com/2005/11/xrandr-o-2.html |
| 04:30.25 | unique311 | doesn't that flip the screen |
| 04:30.57 | zuh | > Got any code? ;-) |
| 04:30.57 | zuh | heh :) eventually the feature will be there! |
| 04:31.06 | zuh | Vaporware ;) |
| 04:31.25 | unique311 | i think the code is the title... |
| 04:31.28 | unique311 | not sure.. |
| 04:31.53 | pupnik | http://home.arcor.de/arnim.sauerbier/POSE_0_01_Nokia_770_rot_kbd.jpg |
| 04:32.07 | pupnik | that's double size with as big a tap keyboard as will fit |
| 04:33.12 | unique311 | keyboard mapping might be difficult on that.. |
| 04:33.32 | pupnik | what do you mean? |
| 04:33.33 | unique311 | use the tungsten w with that mininal keyboard |
| 04:33.51 | pupnik | larger buttons? |
| 04:33.56 | unique311 | do you have the skins folder available |
| 04:34.06 | pupnik | yes |
| 04:34.23 | unique311 | open any file with the extension .skin |
| 04:34.28 | unique311 | in a notepad |
| 04:34.39 | unique311 | scroll all the way to the bottom.... |
| 04:34.54 | unique311 | should also be a readme in the skins directory |
| 04:35.06 | unique311 | that explains how the mapping works... |
| 04:35.20 | unique311 | not sure about that keyboard.. |
| 04:37.17 | zuh | unique311: xrandr is just an extension to X, someone needs to write the part which tells the LCD chip to rotate. And I guess Nokia didn't see a need for it... |
| 04:37.29 | unique311 | might be able to pull it off...with ur mockup...download the tungstenW emu.... |
| 04:37.48 | unique311 | yeah....nokia only saw it as an internet tablet... |
| 04:37.53 | unique311 | wrong |
| 04:38.14 | unique311 | sorry about that nokia devs....don't mind me.... |
| 04:39.04 | zuh | I guess even web browsing could benefit from the rotation |
| 04:39.22 | unique311 | not sure about that... |
| 04:39.47 | pupnik | i can't find the tungsten skin. Do you have a filename unique311 ? |
| 04:39.56 | unique311 | hold on |
| 04:42.43 | unique311 | on the other hand pupnik... |
| 04:42.54 | unique311 | os 3.0 for the tungsten... |
| 04:43.44 | unique311 | could go for the 4.2 os and hope the graffiti pad works... |
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| 04:46.05 | pupnik | no graffiti is too slow on the 770 |
| 04:49.32 | unique311 | k |
| 04:50.41 | unique311 | zuh with this link the whole screen is screwed... |
| 04:50.45 | unique311 | http://syslog.movial.fi/archives/7-xrandr-on-nokia-770.html |
| 04:50.56 | unique311 | think software route might be better... |
| 04:52.45 | zuh | Depends what you want of course |
| 04:53.03 | unique311 | http://www.internettablettalk.com/2006/02/16/fbreader-072-rotates-text-180-270-degrees/ |
| 04:53.07 | zuh | And how well the sw copes with it (as you can see, the older stuff really didn't) |
| 04:53.08 | unique311 | a menu like so... |
| 04:54.50 | zuh | Well as said, since there is no support for rotating the screen out-of-the-box, sw is the only way to go |
| 04:55.07 | zuh | For "user" applications |
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| 07:23.16 | fish_ | re |
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| 07:47.46 | Free_maN | it's possiblel to inject with aireplay for n770 ? |
| 07:48.01 | Free_maN | with patch ... |
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| 07:57.44 | fish_ | Free_maN: well, at least not without a patch |
| 07:59.43 | Free_maN | fish_, i have testing with aircrack-ng 0.9 on my network but it's not working |
| 07:59.53 | fish_ | yes, i tried it too |
| 07:59.54 | Free_maN | with atack 1 and 0 |
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| 08:00.38 | fish_ | it looks like it injects something but actualy there seams to be nothing in the air |
| 08:01.46 | Free_maN | fish_, yes for me it's similar |
| 08:02.11 | fish_ | but i'll guess it might be possible |
| 08:02.32 | Free_maN | it's no working for inject but with the patch https://garage.maemo.org/projects/cx3110x/ |
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| 08:04.10 | fish_ | s garage down atm? |
| 08:04.13 | fish_ | +i |
| 08:05.27 | dpb_ | works for me |
| 08:05.53 | Free_maN | dpb_,with patch ?? |
| 08:06.01 | Free_maN | version to aircrack ? |
| 08:06.06 | dpb_ | i mean garage |
| 08:06.17 | dpb_ | i have no idea what aircrack is. |
| 08:06.31 | Free_maN | oki ;) |
| 08:09.12 | fish_ | Free_maN: which patch? the project is the whole driver.. |
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| 08:11.28 | Free_maN | it's right fish_ |
| 08:13.55 | Free_maN | cx3110x |
| 08:13.55 | Free_maN | (Nokia 770/800)cx3110xSeems to support injection (not confirmed) |
| 08:14.09 | Free_maN | with http://aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=compatibility_drivers&DokuWiki=e509ebf18f206075690c0dc619290584 |
| 08:20.13 | fish_ | Free_maN: yes, i read that also somewhere |
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| 08:29.37 | mk8 | Hi to all ... |
| 08:32.25 | pupnik | "new" WEP crack 12-15 times faster |
| 08:33.11 | pupnik | i think in aircrack cvs |
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| 08:35.20 | fish_ | do you talk about aircrack-ptw? |
| 08:36.34 | fish_ | pupnik: the time you need to crack a wep key is not the problem. the problem _was_ to collect enough data |
| 08:36.54 | fish_ | but with aircrack-ptw that isnt a problem anymore |
| 08:37.10 | pupnik | yea |
| 08:37.42 | fish_ | but maybe they added the ptw attack in aircrack cvs |
| 08:37.59 | pupnik | the ptw authors (from darmstadt) said this in an interview |
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| 08:38.57 | fish_ | yes, i met them on the easterhegg. and eric also played with my n770 and aireplay, he doesn't get it running either |
| 08:39.15 | pupnik | cool |
| 08:39.20 | pupnik | well i mean cool / too bad |
| 08:39.45 | fish_ | but i compiled aircrack-ptw without problems for the n770 |
| 08:40.05 | fish_ | but without airreplay it isnt really usefull |
| 08:40.11 | pupnik | yes |
| 08:40.45 | pupnik | at least kismet works well for finding open nets |
| 08:40.48 | fish_ | aircrack-ptw doesnt work well with passiv sniffing. you need to know parts of the sniffed packets. thats the case if you do arp re-injection but it doesnt work with random data |
| 08:40.59 | pupnik | ah! |
| 08:41.15 | pupnik | now i get it :) |
| 08:41.29 | fish_ | http://www.cdc.informatik.tu-darmstadt.de/aircrack-ptw/ <- thats the aircrack-ptw homepage |
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| 08:42.40 | pupnik | n770 needs a driver guru :) |
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| 08:43.27 | unique311 | k, my device name is missing... |
| 08:43.34 | unique311 | wtf |
| 08:43.55 | unique311 | i start terminal and it shows ~/ |
| 08:44.47 | fish_ | well.. if thats your only problem ;) |
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| 08:45.19 | unique311 | so how do i fix it |
| 08:45.39 | pupnik | that's what i see normally |
| 08:46.07 | fish_ | my device doesnt reboot properly. it starts and before i get the nokia hands splash it reboots again. and that may times. some reboots later its comes up |
| 08:46.14 | unique311 | i use to see stan-Nokia-10 i thinker... |
| 08:46.38 | fish_ | unique311: what says 'hostname' |
| 08:46.39 | fish_ | ? |
| 08:46.50 | fish_ | and what echo $PS1 |
| 08:47.47 | unique311 | it says nokia-n800-10 |
| 08:48.10 | guardian | maemo.org tutorial and dev howtos are broken for nearly one month :( https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1300 |
| 08:48.36 | AD-N770 | good morning |
| 08:48.49 | fish_ | unique311: and what whos echo $PS1? |
| 08:48.52 | unique311 | echo $PS1 /w /$ |
| 08:49.02 | fish_ | than its normal ;) |
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| 08:49.39 | pupnik | hi AD-N770, guardian |
| 08:49.43 | unique311 | why was i seeing the nokia-n800-10 before |
| 08:49.54 | guardian | hi |
| 08:49.56 | fish_ | try export PS1="\u@\h \w " or something like that |
| 08:50.29 | unique311 | something like that...no thanks...lol |
| 08:50.36 | fish_ | or that: export PS1="\[\033[01;32m\]\u@\h\[\033[01;34m\] \w \$\[\033[00m\]" |
| 08:50.43 | fish_ | thats the colored gentoo prompt ;) |
| 08:50.46 | unique311 | hmmm |
| 08:51.13 | oil | senores. how can I activate an script based on dbus-1 message "signal sender=:1.17 -> dest=(null destination) interface=com.nokia.icd; member=status_changed |
| 08:51.13 | oil | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:51.13 | oil | string "WLAN_INFRA" |
| 08:51.13 | oil | string "CONNECTED" |
| 08:51.14 | oil | string "" |
| 08:52.06 | fish_ | unique311: or go and rtfm: like that http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/ |
| 08:52.12 | oil | I tried to make an script to /usr/share/dbus-1/services/foo.service |
| 08:52.20 | oil | [D-BUS Service] |
| 08:52.21 | oil | Name=com.nokia.icd |
| 08:52.21 | oil | Exec=/usr/local/bin/foo.sh |
| 08:52.33 | unique311 | thanks fish... |
| 08:52.46 | oil | but even after a reboot the /usr/local/bin/foo.sh script is not executed |
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| 08:55.15 | pupnik | you can look at how acmonitor does it |
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| 08:57.54 | oil | pupnik: thanks. I'll try to investicate |
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| 08:58.45 | pupnik | oil, i don't know the right way - can't you just put something in /etc/rc*.d directory? |
| 08:59.24 | oil | pupnik: I wish to act when the WLAN finds an pre-defined ap and connects to it |
| 08:59.28 | pupnik | oh based on a dbus-message |
| 08:59.55 | oil | yes. I guess that would be the best way to do it? |
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| 09:40.35 | pupnik | favorite scaler of these 4? http://pupnik.de/ScalersExult.png |
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| 09:46.23 | Fatal | pupnik: imho, bottom right |
| 09:47.07 | unique311 | top right |
| 09:47.09 | Fatal | pupnik: top right don't seem to be 2x, but 2x+something else |
| 09:47.24 | pupnik | it's bilinear filtered |
| 09:47.31 | Fatal | s/top right/top left/ |
| 09:47.31 | pupnik | hmm, interesting. |
| 09:47.47 | pupnik | haha @ infobot |
| 09:48.52 | pupnik | the scaling algorithm is called "scale2x" and does smart interpolation ilke 2xsai |
| 09:49.15 | pupnik | unique311: top right surprises me ... but it would be fastest |
| 09:49.31 | Fatal | I've always been against interpolation when avoidable |
| 09:49.36 | gla55_ | top right or bottom left |
| 09:50.47 | pupnik | very interesting. i'll definitely look into the Xsp then. thanks for the feedback! |
| 09:51.09 | pupnik | bottom left very slow |
| 09:52.34 | gla55_ | top right then |
| 09:53.18 | gla55_ | how far from "ready"? |
| 09:53.28 | pupnik | it's playable now |
| 09:53.37 | gla55_ | nice, nice |
| 09:54.04 | pupnik | http://pupnik.de/exult770.html |
| 09:55.18 | gla55_ | i should have loaded that last week.. |
| 09:55.33 | gla55_ | could have used a timekiller :) |
| 09:55.49 | pupnik | It's pretty good. Needs a bluetooth keyboard during game start. |
| 09:56.03 | pupnik | For savegames, i insert the current date+time |
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| 09:56.26 | pupnik | oh, and the bad guy in the game is called 'The Guardian' ;) |
| 09:56.33 | gla55_ | i know |
| 09:56.38 | gla55_ | :) |
| 09:56.43 | guardian | ? |
| 09:56.51 | guardian | am i the bad guy ? |
| 09:56.51 | gla55_ | i bought it back in the day with weekly allowance :) |
| 09:56.53 | gla55_ | yeah |
| 09:56.57 | gla55_ | a red faced meanie |
| 09:58.07 | pupnik | http://www.owo.com/archive/ftp/graphics/ultima7/u7grdn4.gif |
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| 10:22.06 | yellowbug | hello everybody |
| 10:22.12 | pupnik | moo |
| 10:23.40 | yellowbug | hello pupnik, apt-get cann't resolv hostname while wget is ok, any suggestion? |
| 10:24.18 | yellowbug | bora sdk with scratchbox |
| 10:29.18 | yellowbug | is this a stupid question? |
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| 10:32.30 | sp3000 | yellowbug: giyf |
| 10:32.48 | sp3000 | e.g. http://www.mail-archive.com/scratchbox-users@lists.scratchbox.org/msg00539.html |
| 10:33.08 | sp3000 | is probably a start |
| 10:34.24 | yellowbug | thank u ~~~~ |
| 10:39.13 | Gathaja | oh, exellent. I had that problem too. Seems I was editing the wrong file x) |
| 10:41.35 | unique311 | won't be able to use the tungsten w or any skin with a keyboard....unless you modify the skin.cpp src file also pupnik... |
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| 10:52.29 | pupnik | no skin with keyboard? pupnik is sad. |
| 10:53.02 | pupnik | unique311: not even treo_270 ? |
| 10:53.31 | unique311 | skins.cpp |
| 10:53.38 | unique311 | heavy modifying.. |
| 10:54.06 | unique311 | right now only have code for 9 buttons.. |
| 10:54.11 | unique311 | if i counted right.. |
| 10:55.52 | unique311 | sorry for the flood.. |
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| 12:03.58 | tigert | http://lolcode.com/ |
| 12:05.59 | tigert | man |
| 12:06.32 | Mithrandir | tigert: it clearly needs hildon bindings |
| 12:06.38 | tigert | yeah |
| 12:07.56 | pyhimys | Does the connection manager log to somewhere? |
| 12:08.45 | pyhimys | I can't seem to connect to an access point |
| 12:09.23 | tigert | perhaps dbus-monitor? |
| 12:09.31 | pyhimys | it uses wpa and I'm quite sure that I entered the preshared secret correctly |
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| 12:13.55 | tigert | and you are close enough? |
| 12:13.58 | tigert | to the ap? |
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| 12:24.46 | pyhimys | tigert: maybe too close |
| 12:25.36 | tigert | pyhimys: hmm |
| 12:26.03 | tigert | I dont think the device logs much trying to conserve storage space |
| 12:26.17 | pyhimys | I managed to get connection while I was farther away |
| 12:27.20 | tigert | oh |
| 12:27.21 | tigert | okay |
| 12:27.24 | tigert | weird |
| 12:28.22 | pyhimys | Yeah, and when I got closer it disconnected again? |
| 12:28.40 | pyhimys | There's bad feng shui on my desk |
| 12:30.17 | tigert | weird :) |
| 12:30.51 | tigert | can be that the signal is too strong or such and something in the driver gets confused? :) |
| 12:36.45 | pupnik | i'm tipping on bad feng shui |
| 12:40.57 | Free_maN | make -C /usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.16 SUBDIRS=/targets/test-nokia/usr/src/cx3110x-1.2/src modules |
| 12:40.57 | Free_maN | make[2]: Entering directory `/targets/test-nokia/usr/src/kernel-source-2.6.16' |
| 12:40.57 | Free_maN | Makefile:480: .config: No such file or directory |
| 12:40.57 | Free_maN | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:40.57 | Free_maN | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:40.59 | Free_maN | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:41.01 | Free_maN | make[3]: *** No rule to make target `.config'. Stop. |
| 12:41.12 | Free_maN | i have error for compil cx3110 |
| 12:41.30 | Free_maN | where is .config for n770 |
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| 12:58.27 | zuh | I think 'make n770_defconfig' in the kernel src dir should work |
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| 15:09.15 | rhsanborn | Does anyone know a secret trick to remove more than one email at a time from the email app? I have roughly 700 emails in there and each one takes at least 4 seconds to delete... |
| 15:10.15 | defor^work | hah |
| 15:10.41 | mgedmin | I bet reflashing would remove all 700 emails |
| 15:10.44 | rhsanborn | I don't like that response... |
| 15:10.47 | rhsanborn | :P |
| 15:10.59 | rhsanborn | I'd better turn off the email app... |
| 15:11.01 | defor^work | no idea.. i just mirror my main mailbox which i clean at home, so it updates the imap and its all empty on the n |
| 15:11.07 | zyxulnaga | reflashing will make you lose everything |
| 15:11.16 | defor^work | you can clear user data |
| 15:11.16 | rhsanborn | I know zyxulnaga |
| 15:11.24 | zyxulnaga | jokin |
| 15:11.27 | defor^work | lemme see if there's a way to kill multiple emails tho |
| 15:11.35 | defor^work | im still looking for a way to make rules |
| 15:11.53 | rhsanborn | It would have to be a hack defor, I'm pretty sure there isnt a proper way to do it |
| 15:11.53 | defor^work | unless i missed it |
| 15:11.59 | defor^work | dang |
| 15:12.08 | rhsanborn | Bah, I wish I'd ported pine... |
| 15:12.16 | defor^work | next one.. disable screen dimming/off |
| 15:12.22 | defor^work | i think pine is ported |
| 15:13.19 | rhsanborn | It wouldn't take mch to port it |
| 15:15.23 | defor^work | im still trying to find out what i need to develop... and where things like a terminal shell are stored |
| 15:15.34 | defor^work | unless i have to install xterm |
| 15:15.47 | defor^work | as i see it's been ported |
| 15:17.30 | rhsanborn | defor^work, any idea where you saw pine? It's mentioned on maemo but no install |
| 15:18.16 | defor^work | lemme see... |
| 15:18.54 | defor^work | and i keep running out of memory on occasion, does allocating virtual memory actually add it to the system heap? |
| 15:21.50 | defor^work | dang.. cant seem re rearrange collumns in email either |
| 15:22.57 | rhsanborn | email is a beta app at best |
| 15:23.46 | defor^work | ya |
| 15:24.34 | rhsanborn | deleting the email accounts successfully removed all the messages from the app |
| 15:24.36 | defor^work | stacks of ui issues |
| 15:24.41 | defor^work | aah |
| 15:24.46 | defor^work | i gues sthat's a start |
| 15:25.41 | rhsanborn | I'm all but certain that porting pine will be as simple as downloading the source and clciking compile. It runs within the shell which will handle the sizing issues so no UI worries, etc. |
| 15:26.37 | rhsanborn | *crosses fingers* |
| 15:29.57 | defor^work | so how do you get to shell... xterm? |
| 15:30.42 | rhsanborn | yes |
| 15:31.08 | defor^work | ok... |
| 15:31.08 | defor^work | i'll go install |
| 15:31.08 | defor^work | thanks... |
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| 15:43.35 | rhsanborn | alright, I've managed to login as root in ssh, anyone know how to add the ability to su to sudo? |
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| 15:54.23 | ian_brasil_ | is there some problem with the maemo repositories today? |
| 15:54.33 | koen | only today? |
| 15:55.05 | ian_brasil_ | i was being polite ;) |
| 15:56.58 | ian_brasil_ | maybe an e-mail to the dev list when the repositories are off line might help |
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| 15:59.32 | keesj | it has been a quite day here two |
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| 16:21.06 | defor^work | anyone here use flickr and have uploading issues from the n? |
| 16:27.32 | defor^work | nm.. apparrently upload doesnt properly push images from bluetooth file browsing sessions |
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| 18:10.09 | jack03 | can someone give me some help with sound on a 770? I am trying to get festival (flite) to play a sound. its trying to use /dev/dsp but no device is their :) |
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| 18:13.51 | `0660 | i think you need to use gstreamer |
| 18:14.46 | jack03 | ok |
| 18:18.16 | zuh | Silja03 |
| 18:18.20 | zuh | graah |
| 18:18.25 | zuh | There goes that passwd |
| 18:18.46 | zuh | Well, it was only for my N800 anyway... |
| 18:19.40 | gla55_ | so you say |
| 18:20.51 | zuh | My new one is asdkAWEplonk, in case you were wondering |
| 18:20.55 | zuh | doh |
| 18:21.00 | zuh | ;) |
| 18:21.20 | `0660 | at least it's better than the first one :) |
| 18:22.39 | zuh | Hmm, I should've played that like trying to query some chick. I might have gotten away with that right? |
| 18:24.10 | keesj | jack03: geting flite to work required some patches (at one point ) |
| 18:24.41 | `0660 | you would have fooled me at least :) |
| 18:25.42 | `0660 | though silja03 sounds like a bit too young for a chick |
| 18:26.17 | keesj | https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/trunk/packages/flite.xml?root=mud-builder&view=log |
| 18:27.05 | zuh | `0660: Yeah, it might have ended up in a raid and confiscation of my computer... So probably better to just forget that one ;) |
| 18:27.44 | `0660 | yeah :) |
| 18:27.51 | `0660 | haha |
| 18:28.19 | `0660 | no i have no idea what really happened :) |
| 18:28.34 | jack03 | keesj, do you have a link for this? thanks |
| 18:28.59 | jack03 | sorry i see it |
| 18:29.27 | `0660 | maybe you did save the situation by saying that it was your password :) |
| 18:33.24 | zuh | Let's not get carried away now :) |
| 18:34.47 | `0660 | :) |
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| 22:43.34 | edt | how much of an improvement is the n800 over the n770? |
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| 22:44.46 | gomia1 | edt, quite a bit, IMO. More RAM, more internal flash, more processor power to start with. |
| 22:45.36 | gomia1 | Add the stereo, less weight, ability to hold up to two SD cards (cheaper than 770's MemoryStick) |
| 22:45.41 | gomia1 | and a webcam. |
| 22:45.56 | gomia1 | I miss the hard-shell cover, though |
| 22:47.19 | edt | has flash perf been improved? |
| 22:47.37 | gomiam | it has improved a bit, on OS2007 |
| 22:47.56 | gomiam | now you can watch Flash video, even though the video is still a bit jerky at times. |
| 22:48.05 | edt | one comment I have read is that the cpu to video pipe in the n800 is lacking vs the n770 |
| 22:49.05 | gomiam | mmm... might be. I'm not so knowledgeable about it. I think I read of people complaining that OS2007 doesn't take advantage of the floating-point unit in N800 |
| 22:49.31 | gomiam | which might have been useful to get better Flash video support |
| 22:50.01 | edt | this was something about the chipset used on the n800 with the new processor lacks bandwidth to the lcd display |
| 22:50.19 | gomiam | might be. |
| 22:50.55 | edt | have you noticed an difference in video with the n800 (eg are some things slower than on the 770)? |
| 22:51.33 | gomiam | no. I didn't have a N770 for long, though, so I can't really be a reliable source of comparison :-) |
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| 22:52.42 | edt | gomiam it might well be true but not at all important... |
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| 23:22.56 | pupnik_ | i've done that too |
| 23:23.45 | pupnik | i should register nicknames that are common typos of 'nickserv' |
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