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| 00:23.00 | Negen | any .net programmers here? |
| 00:23.59 | bipolar | Negen: best just ask the question :) |
| 00:24.37 | Negen | im about to f |
| 00:25.33 | Negen | laaunch a site for security apps on the n800 looking for another .net dev |
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| 00:38.50 | Negen | any bt keyboards work with the n800? |
| 00:39.00 | Robot101 | yes |
| 00:39.49 | Negen | ive tried two of my logis.... no discovery |
| 00:39.58 | Negen | any suggestions? |
| 00:40.18 | Robot101 | we've used thinkoutside keyboards, and also a frogpad, with no problems |
| 00:40.37 | Robot101 | did you make them discoverable? |
| 00:40.44 | Negen | what bout mice |
| 00:40.53 | Robot101 | anything that implements the bluetooth HID keyboard profile should work |
| 00:41.05 | Robot101 | mice I don't think so, there's no pointer :D |
| 00:41.28 | Negen | of course even used btscanner to assure correct addy |
| 00:42.05 | Robot101 | eh? you're not using the UI? |
| 00:42.49 | Negen | i did but after discovery and no input used it |
| 00:43.11 | Negen | may be the kb |
| 00:43.28 | Negen | i know shit bout bt though |
| 00:48.15 | Negen | ahh got it now... brb |
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| 01:11.43 | neostrider | hello folks |
| 01:12.08 | neostrider | any crazy man to test the new version of my game? |
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| 01:18.47 | neostrider | unique! |
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| 01:37.02 | Negen | it is the kb robot... they require proprietary drivers |
| 01:40.37 | Negen | is there any way to get active x ctrls to work on the 800? |
| 01:40.58 | Negen | im trying to use tvlinks |
| 01:42.40 | Negen | any help for an 800 noob? |
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| 04:01.55 | unique311_ | neostrider |
| 04:01.58 | unique311_ | ! |
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| 04:28.47 | nelson | May I request that somebody attempt a GTalk call to russnelson@gmail.com ? |
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| 04:36.14 | nelson | May I request that somebody WHO IS AWAKE attempt a GTalk call to russnelson@gmail.com ? |
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| 04:53.50 | unique311_ | nelson is it that important... |
| 04:55.05 | unique311_ | not sure if a symbian emulator would be possible on n800/770 |
| 04:55.14 | unique311_ | java |
| 04:56.15 | nelson | problem solved on my correspondants' end. Firewall issues. |
| 04:56.54 | unique311_ | k |
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| 06:27.31 | tigert | hmm |
| 06:27.41 | tigert | why does planet maemo have display: block for images? |
| 06:27.50 | tigert | this forces them out of the bubbles it seems |
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| 06:59.25 | zuh | tigert: I thought you were the one doing it ;) |
| 07:04.21 | tigert | not currently |
| 07:04.33 | tigert | busy with other things now |
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| 07:15.17 | Okko | trevarthan: Yes, N800 with the latest firmware and mostly default settings. |
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| 07:17.45 | mk8 | Hi to all ... |
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| 07:23.19 | zbowling|n800 | i'm itching to try the video on n800... anyone want to try it? |
| 07:24.17 | zbowling|n800 | zbowling@gmail.com |
| 07:26.22 | zbowling|n800 | need more friends with it |
| 07:28.24 | zuh | zbowling|n800: You could try to seduce a friend who has a windows PC & webcam with the invitation thing |
| 07:29.41 | zbowling|n800 | does that work on gtalk for win? i don't use windows |
| 07:30.17 | c0ffee | there's a binary on the nokia site |
| 07:30.23 | c0ffee | the invitation will point the user to that site |
| 07:30.48 | zbowling|n800 | ahh that thing ;-) |
| 07:31.44 | zbowling|n800 | i'm guess it doesn't work on linux or mac? |
| 07:32.02 | zbowling|n800 | guessing* |
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| 07:38.54 | keesj | zbowling|n800: there is no binary for linux :( |
| 07:40.14 | keesj | and the whole thing is pretty beta |
| 07:40.56 | keesj | there is no real registration and it looks like anybody can steal other's nicks |
| 07:41.49 | keesj | at least that is how I understand it is more designed to ad-hoc communication you chose a nick and post to the website |
| 07:42.36 | keesj | the trouble is that is does not mix well with the other features (like knowing when somebody is online). |
| 07:43.05 | keesj | n800->n800 communication is ok |
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| 07:43.46 | keesj | that is if one of the parties use the headphone :p |
| 07:45.45 | keesj | does the gtalk support video? |
| 07:50.02 | Jaffa | Morning, all |
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| 07:54.30 | dneary | hi |
| 07:54.54 | dneary | I am looking for the Sofia SIP Telepathy connection manager pre-built for the N800 - anyone know where I might find it? |
| 07:56.36 | dneary | The wiki and maemo.org are in pain |
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| 08:15.06 | AD-N770 | good morning |
| 08:17.16 | unique311_ | ../../../../arm-none-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: doze/dozea.o: Relocations in generic ELF (EM: 3) |
| 08:17.17 | unique311_ | doze/dozea.o: could not read symbols: File in wrong format |
| 08:17.17 | unique311_ | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 08:17.17 | unique311_ | make: *** [dega] Error 1 |
| 08:17.23 | unique311_ | wtf does that mean |
| 08:18.08 | unique311_ | btw, i got a working msx emu..... |
| 08:18.17 | unique311_ | not sure how the controls are going to handle... |
| 08:18.21 | unique311_ | but its working |
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| 08:26.33 | Okko | is there a sip client for N800? |
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| 08:32.26 | pyhimys | Okko: gizmo? |
| 08:34.00 | Okko | oh, it is available for N800. thanks. |
| 08:34.24 | Okko | can I configure any sip account to the software or is it binded to gizmo accounts? |
| 08:35.04 | dneary | Okko: I was just thinking the same thing :) |
| 08:35.20 | dneary | Isn't the Telepathy SIP connection manager available as a binary somewhere? |
| 08:36.11 | Okko | according to gizmo's screenshots there's "[x] login to second account" which implies it always logins to gizmo |
| 08:36.58 | pyhimys | Install it and try? :) |
| 08:37.11 | pyhimys | It had some stability issues. |
| 08:37.18 | Okko | I don't have my N800 with me atm |
| 08:37.40 | pyhimys | Don't know if they're fixed now. |
| 08:41.18 | dneary | pyhimys: Do you have a lead on the SPI connection manager for Telepathy? |
| 08:41.28 | X-Fade_ | Gizmo works ok for me. |
| 08:42.32 | X-Fade_ | The only problem it has is that is doesn't automatically reconnect after I have lost the wireless network for a time.. |
| 08:42.59 | Okko | I guess Ekiga hasn't been packaged for N800 yet |
| 08:43.12 | Okko | found compile instructions though |
| 08:43.20 | Okko | http://n770.herraiz.org/archives/27 |
| 08:45.06 | Okko | And MiniSIP may be coming.. http://www.minisip.org/download.html#LinuxEmbedded |
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| 08:51.10 | dneary | Okko: Isn't there a SIP connection manager? |
| 08:51.32 | dneary | In which case SIP should Just work with the VoIP client already on the N800 |
| 08:51.56 | Okko | dneary: already installed? |
| 08:52.04 | Okko | in the firmware? |
| 08:52.27 | dneary | I'm looking to get it installed - I know it exists |
| 08:52.35 | dneary | But I don't yet have it |
| 08:52.58 | |tbb| | okko for what is it good for? |
| 08:54.22 | Okko | |tbb|: a SIP client? |
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| 09:20.03 | thomasvs | what is enprocess and why should I let it take 100% cpu ? |
| 09:23.30 | koen | that's the Evil Nokia Process |
| 09:23.54 | bilboed | yeah, if you don't have a nokia phone it is run periodically |
| 09:24.15 | bilboed | and then the nokia resellers can tell you "oh, yeah but it consumes less battery with a nokia phone" :) |
| 09:28.58 | Robot101 | keesj: ok if one of the parties use the headphone? the N800 has echo cancellation, provided they're not in the same room then it doesn't create feedback. |
| 09:29.49 | Robot101 | keesj: gtalk itself doesn't support video, the N800 has implemented some newer standards |
| 09:31.23 | thomasvs | so no one really knows what it is ? :) |
| 09:31.48 | Robot101 | it's the Jingle XEPs on xmpp.org/extensions |
| 09:32.01 | Robot101 | I made them work, and then fed back all of the changes to make the XEPs match my implementation :) |
| 09:32.19 | Mithrandir | Robot101: sensible approach. :-P |
| 09:32.37 | Robot101 | first implementer's priviledge :D |
| 09:36.21 | keesj | :P |
| 09:37.24 | keesj | to be honest I have only seen google talk voice work under windows nerver under linux(other then the 770 and n800 of course) |
| 09:37.34 | Robot101 | it works for me |
| 09:37.48 | Robot101 | but then again I write the software that runs on the 770 and N800 :) |
| 09:37.55 | keesj | :) |
| 09:37.58 | Robot101 | I do need headphones though, my laptop doesn't have echo cancellation |
| 09:38.16 | Robot101 | we're seeing some linux client projects that look reasonably good now |
| 09:38.33 | keesj | really ? |
| 09:38.52 | Robot101 | we've been working on Empathy in the GNOME SVN, based off Gossip, componentized but no voice yet, the Novell guys are working in C |
| 09:39.02 | Robot101 | (AGRHGAHRG AMERICAN KEYBOARD) |
| 09:39.11 | Robot101 | C# on Banter, also in GNOME SVN |
| 09:39.16 | Robot101 | a person-centric thing |
| 09:39.41 | Robot101 | and INdT have been working on Colligo, which is a pretty traditional client built on top of Telepathy & tapioca-glib |
| 09:40.40 | keesj | let's try gossip :p |
| 09:42.28 | keesj | lol gossip requires loudmouth , |
| 09:43.27 | Robot101 | unless you --enable-telepathy |
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| 09:50.11 | unique311_ | happy joy joy |
| 09:50.16 | unique311_ | kegs emu... |
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| 10:10.02 | X-Fade | Does anyone know how I can detect with gstreamer in C that I try to use a non-existing/not available device as v4l2 source? |
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| 10:44.21 | b0unc3 | hello |
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| 12:32.29 | fer2 | hi |
| 12:32.35 | timeless | hi |
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| 12:33.12 | fer2 | anyone knows how to do video/voip calls between a n800 or a 770 and a Macbook? |
| 12:33.35 | fer2 | what programs should I use? |
| 12:34.26 | timeless | you're greedy :) |
| 12:35.51 | inz | fer, install linux on yer macbook and use tapioca ;) |
| 12:36.03 | timeless | i think you can use parallels w/ windows :) |
| 12:37.23 | timeless | http://videovoip.tableteer.nokia.com/ |
| 12:40.01 | fer2 | timeless, thanks |
| 12:40.19 | timeless | i presume you can find windows for your mac :) |
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| 12:49.48 | plaes | is there a perl package? |
| 12:53.06 | dpb | perl is included by default afaik |
| 12:53.35 | timeless | no |
| 12:53.42 | timeless | it is most definitely not included by default |
| 12:54.19 | plaes | ah.. it's in extras |
| 12:54.19 | timeless | it is theoretically possible to addit |
| 12:54.20 | dpb_ | it's not? I thought apt/dpkg kinda depends on it.. o_O |
| 12:54.20 | timeless | oddly enough nokia has managed w/o it |
| 12:54.20 | dpb_ | weird |
| 12:54.29 | timeless | debian lists it as an essential or something |
| 12:54.46 | timeless | so it's assumed to be there, but enough things (or at least the things nokia ships) don't require it |
| 12:55.47 | dpb_ | k, i'll try to remember that in the future :) |
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| 12:57.42 | plaes | repository hell... |
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| 12:59.18 | timeless | if you have fewer than 20 repositories, you haven't reached hell |
| 12:59.58 | plaes | :) |
| 13:00.12 | dpb_ | hehe |
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| 13:18.21 | inz | dpb, IIRC 770 shipped with perl, N800 no longer does |
| 13:18.46 | plaes | yup it was in one of extras and now it's called perl-base |
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| 13:46.12 | _guardian | could the n800 screen report multitouch press events ? |
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| 13:49.12 | ||cw | guardian: I think multitouch requires a special digitzer |
| 13:50.16 | guardian | i'm clueless about what's going on the hardware side |
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| 14:34.35 | trevarthan | what's up folks? |
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| 16:05.44 | tko | MDK: --enable-xan ... wtf? :) |
| 16:07.49 | MDK | tko: --enable-lazy-coder-mode |
| 16:07.53 | MDK | disables -Werror |
| 16:08.23 | tko | MDK: I saw what it does, but the name of the option is unconventional |
| 16:09.27 | MDK | not consolidated enough? ;) |
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| 18:00.23 | Negen | anyway to run firefox on the 800? |
| 18:02.54 | part | Negen: not as such, no. there is a port of minimo available, but it's not very stable |
| 18:05.10 | trevarthan | I rebooted my n800 today, and now it won't boot up properly. The blue bar goes partway, then it reboots automatically and starts over. What can I do? |
| 18:06.30 | part | first make sure that the battery isn't empty |
| 18:07.18 | Negen | trev did u recently install RoR? i had a similar prob after |
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| 18:16.43 | Negen | part: you heard of any way to connect to a checkpoint vpn? |
| 18:17.55 | trevarthan | Negen: What is RoR? |
| 18:17.55 | trevarthan | Ruby on Rails? |
| 18:17.55 | trevarthan | no |
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| 18:17.58 | Negen | kk |
| 18:18.10 | trevarthan | part: batt is not empty. Plugged into a power adapter and no change. Still does the same thing. |
| 18:18.13 | trevarthan | what now? |
| 18:18.38 | Negen | whar have u recently installed |
| 18:18.55 | part | trevarthan: if the battery is completely empty, it takes about 5 minutes to get enough charge to actually boot up |
| 18:19.12 | trevarthan | part: it's not. |
| 18:19.38 | trevarthan | besides, wouldn't it at least boot while plugged in? |
| 18:19.44 | part | trevarthan: ok, the next step would be to turn off the automatic reboot. This can be done with the flasher |
| 18:19.59 | part | trevarthan: no, it won't boot up until there's some charge in the battery |
| 18:20.18 | trevarthan | I'm pretty sure I checked the batt meter before rebooting and it was all green. |
| 18:20.32 | trevarthan | So no, I doubt it's the battery. |
| 18:21.04 | part | Negen: if there is a free client for checkpoint, it shouldn't be a lot of effort to compile it for maemo |
| 18:22.09 | Negen | part : i tried with no luck... but i have a webbased vpn but it requires an activex component |
| 18:22.42 | trevarthan | is there a way to disable automatic reboot using the windows flasher? Or do I have to use the linux one? |
| 18:23.02 | part | trevarthan: no idea about the windows flasher, sorry |
| 18:23.30 | Negen | trevarthan: i dont think you can |
| 18:23.51 | trevarthan | arg. |
| 18:24.49 | Negen | trevarthan: if you connect the usb and power holding home... do you ever get the usb icon? |
| 18:25.24 | mgedmin | trevarthan: do you have any idea what happened before it got into the reboot loop? |
| 18:25.29 | mgedmin | e.g. did you install some software? |
| 18:25.41 | mgedmin | or write/delete large amounts of data to the internal flash? |
| 18:26.34 | trevarthan | did I install some software? Uh... yeah. Do I know which one caused the problem? Not a clue. |
| 18:26.50 | mgedmin | any desktop/statusbar plugins? |
| 18:26.59 | trevarthan | not recently |
| 18:27.02 | mgedmin | no, these would cause a crash later |
| 18:27.27 | Negen | trevarthan: can you get the usb icon on boot by holding home? |
| 18:27.37 | trevarthan | here's hoping the flasher works from vmware on a win32 host. |
| 18:28.01 | trevarthan | yes |
| 18:28.06 | mgedmin | rebooting in the middle of the blue bar... I've heard that somewhere... |
| 18:28.13 | trevarthan | well, by plugging in usb anyway |
| 18:28.23 | mgedmin | flash garbage collector might cause it by using all the cpu and triggering the watchdog reboot, IIRC |
| 18:28.51 | trevarthan | I'm just gonna turn off the lifeguard thing. seems like a useless thing anyway |
| 18:28.58 | trevarthan | what's it supposed to protect? |
| 18:29.03 | mgedmin | the fix, iirc, is to turn off lifeguard and let the gc collector finish its job |
| 18:29.21 | Negen | i had a similar prob after installin a bad ror package. had to reflah to 2007 clean |
| 18:29.47 | mgedmin | there was also some other bug in some firmware where it would just keep rebooting if it failed to successfully up 10 times |
| 18:29.55 | trevarthan | yeah, I hope I don't have to reflash. It's taken about a week to get to this point. |
| 18:30.01 | mgedmin | and the fix was to reflash a newer firmware |
| 18:30.20 | trevarthan | I've got the latest firmware. |
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| 18:39.53 | trevarthan | Error claiming USB interface: Operation not permitted |
| 18:40.05 | trevarthan | I bet that's because I'm running under vmware... |
| 18:40.50 | trevarthan | maybe it's because I'm not root |
| 18:41.07 | Negen | trevarthan: you may have to wipe the unit using nokias tool |
| 18:42.11 | trevarthan | it's not a tumor. |
| 18:43.01 | Negen | ;-) |
| 18:43.43 | Negen | that became my option when i had the problem |
| 18:44.42 | trevarthan | is it booting into some sort of safe mode now? The windows don't show up with gui widgets.... |
| 18:45.30 | Negen | never heaard orr seen that |
| 18:45.45 | keesj | the white screen of death? |
| 18:45.52 | Negen | lol |
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| 18:46.29 | keesj | That was not supposed to be funny , such a thing exists in maemo lang |
| 18:46.31 | keesj | land |
| 18:46.34 | trevarthan | yeah. the code dialog has buttons, but they aren't graphical. |
| 18:47.03 | trevarthan | It keeps booting with a wrench at the bottom of the screen.... |
| 18:47.43 | keesj | you will have to make a photo for me |
| 18:48.03 | keesj | what are non graphical buttons , is that ascii or something? |
| 18:48.32 | trevarthan | no, they just don't look like buttons. only the text on them show up |
| 18:50.26 | Negen | keesj: sry bout that.. trevarthan: is there too much personal data to try reflashing the system in win? |
| 18:50.31 | tko | MDK: what happened to the lock code dialog in hildon-1 ? |
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| 18:52.05 | trevarthan | keesj: it's telling me the kernel version as it boots. Ring a bell? |
| 18:52.45 | mgedmin | r&d mode is on |
| 18:52.51 | MDK | tko: is there? |
| 18:52.58 | trevarthan | how do I turn it off? |
| 18:53.10 | MDK | tko: at least, was there when I looked last time ;) |
| 18:55.15 | mgedmin | with a flasher |
| 18:55.16 | trevarthan | yeah. how do you think it got turned on in the first place. :) |
| 18:55.16 | tko | MDK: umm.. it is there now.. either you added it today or I'm blind |
| 18:55.17 | MDK | heh |
| 18:55.17 | MDK | no, I didn't add it today ;) |
| 18:55.18 | MDK | it's called hildon-code-dialog |
| 18:58.54 | trevarthan | I've got it booted into R&D mode, but I get no GUI. Just a blank white screen. If I knew the IP, then I could ssh in and have a look around, but I don't know the IP as it's on a different net... |
| 19:05.10 | ||cw | trevarthan: is it still plugged into usb? |
| 19:05.32 | trevarthan | no |
| 19:08.26 | trevarthan | I'm f'd, right? I just need to flash it now? Does anyone realize how much that sucks? |
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| 19:11.51 | zuh | o/ |
| 19:14.41 | zuh | That's one of the reasons why I have the bootmenu and a backup system in the internal flash, I can safely tinker with the system on the sd and recover it through the system on the flash |
| 19:16.24 | trevarthan | yeah. If it's going to be this easy to completely destroy weeks worth of work then Nokia ***really*** needs a way to backup the image to the desktop. |
| 19:16.30 | trevarthan | I'm *not* happy at all. |
| 19:18.34 | zuh | I guess they warn you about it in the dialogs in app-manager ;) |
| 19:19.24 | trevarthan | does the backup program save your installed applications? No. So it isn't really a backup, is it? |
| 19:19.44 | keesj | trevarthan: apparently there are solutions like what zuh is using, so I guess that if you want to be unhappy , you could start with being unhapy about the way you developed. I don't want to make you angry but I thing you are being a little unfair |
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| 19:20.07 | trevarthan | and let's face it. The n800 is useless without 3rd party software, so I'm not satisfied with a "don't install 3rd party software" answer. |
| 19:20.52 | trevarthan | show me a link to the solution zuh is using. I didn't even know it existed until he mentioned it. |
| 19:21.28 | zuh | http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/#initfs |
| 19:21.34 | keesj | it's in the wiki, there are different pages about how to boot easely from mmc |
| 19:21.37 | trevarthan | I don't think I'm being unfair at all. I'm bloody furious. I'll get over it. I'll redo all my hard work. I'm just very unhappy right now. |
| 19:21.47 | zuh | But note that this is even less supported than 3rd party sw :P |
| 19:24.17 | guardian | sorry for that |
| 19:26.03 | trevarthan | is zsh known to screw things up? |
| 19:26.25 | trevarthan | zsh is the only thing I installed that didn't install properly. It never has on my n800. |
| 19:27.25 | trevarthan | Is there any way to do a serial console over USB or something? |
| 19:27.57 | trevarthan | I mean, something is jacking up the boot process. If I could just get a shell then I could fix it. |
| 19:28.11 | Disconnect | there is a serial port if you feel like soldering a connector to it |
| 19:28.21 | trevarthan | no... I don't. |
| 19:28.29 | Disconnect | but if you want to solder, its prolly easier to grab the jtag port instead |
| 19:30.26 | trevarthan | I know how to solder, but I don't feel like completely bricking a $400 tool.... |
| 19:31.10 | trevarthan | does the serial console boot by default? |
| 19:31.17 | trevarthan | or do you need a custom kernel anyway? |
| 19:33.38 | zuh | You can enable it with the flasher tool |
| 19:35.20 | trevarthan | that's tempting. But then I'd have a goofy serial port on my n800 all the time. Not practical. |
| 19:35.59 | trevarthan | /lastlog zuh |
| 19:36.35 | zuh | I guess you could make some kind of connector pins and just fix it in place with tape or something... |
| 19:36.54 | zuh | hw-hackery is fun ;) |
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| 19:39.45 | trevarthan | well, I guess I'm just going to flash it and lose my work. I didn't have anything terribly important on there. Just some notes and a frick-load of applications that I'll have to painfully reinstall. |
| 19:41.53 | trevarthan | I think what would help in the future is if you could backup over the USB or network somehow and if you could backup applications somehow. Or at least make a list of applications installed that allows you to reinstall all with a single click or something. |
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| 19:42.38 | trevarthan | Some sort of safe mode boot option would be nice too. |
| 19:42.52 | trevarthan | or a usb serial console. |
| 19:43.15 | zbowling|n800 | qemu needs true omap support |
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| 19:45.02 | trevarthan | if you could download the internal flash via USB and mount it under linux, that would be useful too. |
| 19:45.27 | trevarthan | Then you could backup a bricked device, even if you couldn't figure out what's wrong with it. |
| 19:45.46 | zbowling|n800 | you should be able to... |
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| 19:46.32 | zbowling|n800 | if it's not bricked ;-P |
| 19:46.50 | trevarthan | how do I do that then? |
| 19:47.05 | trevarthan | that would save me a headache, I think. |
| 19:48.07 | zbowling|n800 | you could to flash... |
| 19:48.18 | zbowling|n800 | boot* |
| 19:49.01 | trevarthan | I'm confused. Those last two sentences didn't make any sense to me. |
| 19:49.25 | zbowling|n800 | you could boot to flash |
| 19:49.48 | maddlah | evening |
| 19:51.26 | ||cw | pretty sure one the flasher options is to make a backup |
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| 19:55.33 | trevarthan | ||cw: hmmm... don't see it. Does it show up in -h? |
| 19:56.11 | ||cw | no idea, I just recall it.. vaugely |
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| 19:58.48 | roope | do not want |
| 20:00.11 | zyxulnaga | has anyone used a GPS device with the n800 ? |
| 20:00.32 | zyxulnaga | I am trying to find a list with supported hw gps devices that work with the n800 |
| 20:05.09 | ||cw | zyxulnaga: all bt gps's should work |
| 20:05.42 | ||cw | I do recomend the Hollox for casual use though, killer battery life |
| 20:06.07 | ||cw | I have the GPSlim 236, starts pretty fast and has an external antenna connector too |
| 20:10.28 | sbaturzio | uhm...was looking for forwarding a X application from the N800 to my PC thru an ssh connection. |
| 20:10.44 | zyxulnaga | ||cw: thanks |
| 20:10.45 | sbaturzio | well...the $ ssh -X ... is not enough |
| 20:10.56 | zyxulnaga | ||cw: do they interface through gpsd ? |
| 20:11.05 | sbaturzio | and even changing the /etc/ssh/sshd_config doesn't work |
| 20:11.23 | sbaturzio | someone was more lucky than me? ;-) |
| 20:13.01 | zyxulnaga | oh yeah its gpsd nice |
| 20:13.41 | zyxulnaga | http://gpsd.berlios.de/hardware.html |
| 20:15.46 | ||cw | zyxulnaga: bt gps's are all serial profiles |
| 20:17.21 | zyxulnaga | so they should all work? |
| 20:17.51 | ||cw | yes |
| 20:18.16 | ||cw | some are better than others though, I'd stick with a SiRF chipset |
| 20:19.01 | zyxulnaga | cool |
| 20:19.03 | zyxulnaga | thanks |
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| 20:27.10 | guardian | anyone ever compared SDL performance to using straight X or using gdk image directly in the correct pixel format ? |
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| 20:31.29 | florian__ | re |
| 20:34.35 | zyxulnaga | one more thing, has anyone tried connecting the n800 to a projector? |
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| 20:46.24 | negen | Has anyone successfully used bluetooth DUN via a treo700w? |
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| 20:50.16 | zyxulnaga | I guess someone can use a ssh into a linux machine thats connected to a projector share the display and do it |
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| 20:54.21 | zbowling|n800 | i'm creating a pretty offline page downloader |
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| 20:56.20 | zbowling|n800 | was using wget and cron jobs.. bumped it up to daemon, with connection detection and libcurl |
| 20:58.01 | zbowling|n800 | even generates an html indexer page with a list of all the downloaded sites, with links to thier entry pages the date of last update |
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| 20:59.27 | zbowling|n800 | but that is probably going to go in favor of a gtk fronted |
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| 21:02.52 | zbowling|n800 | like advant go or plucker but n800ized |
| 21:03.18 | zbowling|n800 | using mono and gtk# for rapid dev |
| 21:05.12 | zbowling|n800 | mono beats java and python everyday of the week |
| 21:08.34 | zbowling|n800 | in fact python and java run on mono already making them biotches... i think its funny hearing about people getting java on maemo when we did it via mono already and we do it better because we have an arm jit and is intrupted on arm (embedded versions) |
| 21:09.14 | zbowling|n800 | java is intrupted on arm |
| 21:10.30 | zbowling|n800 | http://www.mono-project.com/Maemo |
| 21:11.01 | zbowling|n800 | you could even use vb.net on maemo |
| 21:11.26 | zbowling|n800 | if you are a sadomasicist |
| 21:13.04 | zbowling|n800 | hildon# and osso# and maemo# rock |
| 21:14.09 | zbowling|n800 | so its everyones duty if you hear anyone say java to slap them and say mono |
| 21:14.32 | zbowling|n800 | slap them silly |
| 21:14.37 | unique311 | ?? |
| 21:14.40 | unique311 | hello |
| 21:14.42 | Juhaz | should we shout praises for almighty microsoft too? |
| 21:15.25 | zbowling|n800 | only if you are wanting to confuse people |
| 21:15.27 | unique311 | zbowling |
| 21:15.35 | unique311 | java runs in mono |
| 21:15.41 | zbowling|n800 | yah |
| 21:15.44 | unique311 | shit |
| 21:15.50 | unique311 | pardon my french |
| 21:16.09 | zbowling|n800 | see ikvm.net |
| 21:16.14 | unique311 | thanks |
| 21:17.13 | zbowling|n800 | http://www.mono-project.com/Java |
| 21:17.37 | zbowling|n800 | its more for compatability |
| 21:18.22 | unique311 | can install mono on the n800.. |
| 21:18.36 | unique311 | and run java on it? |
| 21:20.26 | zbowling|n800 | you have to copy ikvm after you install |
| 21:21.08 | zbowling|n800 | ikvm is a mono library... pretty simple |
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| 21:22.46 | zbowling|n800 | it coverts java bytecode to cli bytecode on the fly |
| 21:23.31 | unique311 | i'll follow the instructions on the site.. |
| 21:23.35 | zbowling|n800 | and uses gnu classpath as the java classpath |
| 21:23.36 | unique311 | thanks |
| 21:24.29 | unique311 | i want to use this app called salling clicker and their a .jar file for it...to install on the device thats going to be use as the remote |
| 21:24.41 | zbowling|n800 | funny part is we are faster then java for most things |
| 21:24.43 | unique311 | not to install to run |
| 21:26.00 | zbowling|n800 | ahh yah.. ikvm has a tool to convert it on your desktop first the upload the result + ikvm libs |
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| 21:28.34 | zbowling|n800 | i work at TI (in the educational/productivty dep. on the calculators) and i've been working on mono for the omap for our stuff but when i come how i get to work on poorting that code to work on maemo |
| 21:28.52 | zbowling|n800 | home* |
| 21:30.41 | zbowling|n800 | optomized the jit in mono for arm core in the omaps... we use just about every feature |
| 21:31.22 | zbowling|n800 | even our softfloat uses some omap tricks |
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| 21:36.39 | unique311 | so conert the .jar file i have to ikvm? |
| 21:36.44 | unique311 | and be worry free |
| 21:37.46 | zbowling|n800 | yah |
| 21:37.55 | zbowling|n800 | there is a tool |
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| 21:40.37 | zbowling|n800 | using ikvm.exe it will convert on the fly, but its huge and needs lots of memory at first... ikvmc.exe converts ahead of time and generates a mono library or executable from your jar |
| 21:41.07 | zbowling|n800 | use ikvmc and copy the result |
| 21:42.59 | zbowling|n800 | use ikvmstub.exe against any mono/.net library and it will make a jar stub for the library you can comple against in java... |
| 21:43.12 | mrflakes | hello all, is anyone here familiar with pygame? i am trying to figure out how to get my program to have an icon in the taskbar, as it doesn't get one automatically |
| 21:44.07 | Sulis | wouldn't that be a DM issue? |
| 21:44.09 | zbowling|n800 | ikvm.net/uses.html |
| 21:53.25 | unique311 | is it suppose to complain on first install |
| 21:54.15 | unique311 | hmmm |
| 21:54.26 | unique311 | have to install the libs seperate |
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| 22:05.33 | zbowling|n800 | a few.. for ikvm |
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| 22:26.05 | Negen | can anyone help me install aircrack on my n800? |
| 22:28.31 | Negen | ill give u .50$ |
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| 22:29.19 | Negen | or his head which ever u prefer |
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| 22:30.43 | Negen | can anyone help me install aircrack on my n800? |
| 22:31.51 | penguinbait | I have not used it, is it a deb? |
| 22:32.29 | Negen | there is a deb but im trying my own |
| 22:32.46 | Negen | getting an unknown err |
| 22:33.18 | penguinbait | not sure what you mean, did you install a deb? |
| 22:33.31 | penguinbait | trying my own access point? |
| 22:33.49 | Negen | no ... compiling my own version |
| 22:33.57 | penguinbait | ah, inside scratchbox |
| 22:34.16 | Negen | but the log states wlan0 not present |
| 22:35.06 | penguinbait | hmmm, |
| 22:35.10 | Negen | yyet wlan0 is the default for all other apps im using |
| 22:35.35 | penguinbait | is wlan0 connected to ap when you start aircrack |
| 22:35.46 | penguinbait | did you bring up the interface |
| 22:35.51 | penguinbait | ifconfig wlan0 up |
| 22:36.11 | penguinbait | this is all command line I am assuming? |
| 22:36.32 | Negen | yes... brb i think i fixed it |
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