| 00:55.17 | flybaer | hey guys |
| 00:55.26 | flybaer | I am bored |
| 00:55.41 | flybaer | hubby is watching UFC and has the remote. Men with remotes suck |
| 00:55.48 | guypat | how is that possible? |
| 00:56.00 | guypat | being bored |
| 00:56.09 | flybaer | I dunno |
| 00:56.20 | flybaer | I usually have the tv on while I play with the computer |
| 00:56.27 | flybaer | I like to multi-task |
| 00:56.39 | guypat | as do I :) |
| 00:56.50 | guypat | what's your distro of choice? |
| 00:56.54 | flybaer | you should try it......just doing one thing at a time |
| 00:57.01 | flybaer | I am playing with Ubuntu |
| 00:57.04 | guypat | eh, impossible |
| 00:57.10 | flybaer | :-D |
| 00:57.30 | flybaer | my family thinks I am crazy |
| 00:57.41 | flybaer | they want me to SIT down with them to watch tv |
| 00:57.47 | flybaer | I can see it from here |
| 00:58.02 | guypat | I'm on three servers, managing an adwords campaign, analyzing azoogle earnings, trying to figure out something on my server, responding to emails, helping my g/f reload her os |
| 00:58.05 | guypat | aahh, madness |
| 00:58.27 | flybaer | <sigh> blissful isn't it :-D |
| 00:58.38 | guypat | eh, in the long run, hopefully |
| 00:58.44 | flybaer | how'd you find our small group |
| 00:59.12 | guypat | a friend of a friend mentioned something about a linux group here in tally that idles on freenode |
| 00:59.34 | guypat | few google queries later and here I am |
| 00:59.44 | flybaer | we definitely idle on this channel, unless someone needs some help |
| 00:59.51 | flybaer | cool! |
| 01:00.08 | guypat | lol, I asked a question either yesterday or the day before and no one responded :( |
| 01:00.37 | flybaer | you have to address a knowledgeable person by name to get our attention |
| 01:00.58 | flybaer | since it has been so inactive, we don't usually monitor it unless we see it flashing |
| 01:01.56 | flybaer | linuturk and macluvjay usually answer my questions |
| 01:02.09 | flybaer | if goozbach is around, he is a plethora of info |
| 01:02.17 | flybaer | but he moved and doesn't monitor much |
| 01:04.34 | Linuturk | yeah, his question stumped me |
| 01:05.45 | flybaer | wonder if gooz could have help |
| 01:06.12 | Linuturk | goozbach is the worst idler of us all :) |
| 01:06.20 | flybaer | yup |
| 01:06.32 | flybaer | but every now and then he is around |
| 01:07.00 | guypat | gooz = tall guy with black hair? |
| 01:07.18 | Linuturk | yep |
| 01:07.27 | Linuturk | he moved away and left us |
| 01:07.27 | guypat | he wrote an article on his blog on how to automount an ipod as a non root user |
| 01:07.32 | guypat | was pretty hot |
| 01:07.45 | flybaer | he is pretty knowledgeable |
| 01:07.54 | guypat | although I don't run automount :P still a cool little write up |
| 01:08.45 | guypat | of all the networks I've been on, efnet seems to split the most.. |
| 01:08.58 | Linuturk | heh |
| 01:09.48 | Linuturk | so |
| 01:09.57 | Linuturk | I got Arch installed on my new cloudbook |
| 01:11.56 | flybaer | interesting, comes preinstalled with Rocket? |
| 01:12.15 | Linuturk | yeah, but the guy I got it from put windoze on it |
| 01:12.49 | flybaer | :-D |
| 01:12.57 | flybaer | what was he thinking? |
| 01:13.25 | Linuturk | lol |
| 01:13.36 | Linuturk | it ran pretty well ... just not well enough |
| 01:27.32 | goozbach | guypat: I'm around, and stumped on your question |
| 01:27.57 | goozbach | if netstat -taupe doesn't show it, you may have to do some twiddling with php itself. |
| 01:32.15 | Linuturk | are these php files that you wrote, or are they part of a package |
| 01:32.16 | Linuturk | ? |
| 01:32.33 | guypat | goozbach - i've been forcing myself to not accept that as a solution, but it looks like i'm running out of options |
| 01:33.05 | guypat | no, I'm not fluent in php. i dabble, change stuff, customize to my liking, but yes, they're part of a package. |
| 01:33.37 | Linuturk | I'm assuming you've been to see the developers of that package, and asked them what might be causing it? |
| 01:37.19 | guypat | well, that's the thing - I can't even isolate it to a specific package |
| 01:37.25 | guypat | or script |
| 01:37.44 | guypat | well, shouldn't say can't |
| 01:37.47 | guypat | I don't know how :P |
| 01:41.37 | flybaer | newbie with a simple question here <waving her hands> |
| 01:42.10 | guypat | g0g0g0 :) |
| 01:42.41 | flybaer | doing a server install and am coming up on the choice of what do I want to install |
| 01:43.02 | flybaer | dns server, lamp server, mail server, printer server, samba, open sshh |
| 01:43.08 | flybaer | what do I do??? :-D |
| 01:44.18 | Linuturk | well, what do you want to do with the server? |
| 01:44.39 | flybaer | get to it from home |
| 01:45.07 | Linuturk | you'll want openssh then |
| 01:45.19 | Linuturk | are you going to be sharing files with windows boxes |
| 01:45.30 | Linuturk | ? |
| 01:45.36 | flybaer | yes |
| 01:46.14 | Linuturk | you'll want samba too |
| 01:46.33 | Linuturk | that's a good start |
| 01:46.44 | flybaer | I thought so about the samba and SSH but wasn't sure if I could select multiple |
| 01:46.57 | Linuturk | yep, you can :) |
| 01:47.17 | guypat | depending on the distro, you can drill down even further |
| 01:47.38 | Linuturk | she's using ubuntu |
| 01:47.54 | guypat | are you planning on running just cli or a window manager? |
| 01:48.02 | flybaer | it only lets me select one app |
| 01:48.15 | guypat | isn't really familiar with ubuntu :-/ |
| 01:48.19 | flybaer | I am assuming I can go back and install Samba later |
| 01:48.24 | Linuturk | yeah, you can |
| 01:48.31 | guypat | sudo apt-get |
| 01:48.31 | flybaer | that's ok, I am not either |
| 01:49.51 | flybaer | I just haven't played with the server before and am not sure what to expect |
| 01:50.21 | guypat | the ability to run services :) |
| 01:50.25 | Linuturk | well, it is all cli (and there really isn't a good reason for a gui unless you are doing vmware or something) |
| 01:50.26 | guypat | streaming radio is kewl |
| 01:50.48 | guypat | stream your personal mp3 collection and listen wherever you can access the internet :) |
| 01:50.57 | guypat | setup a web based queue/dj system |
| 01:51.07 | Linuturk | rtorrent server :) |
| 01:52.00 | flybaer | ok guys |
| 01:52.05 | guypat | wow, so unbuntu server doesn't come with a windowmanager? |
| 01:52.10 | guypat | by default? |
| 01:52.11 | flybaer | remember me, the newbie<waving my hands> |
| 01:52.21 | Linuturk | nope, gui on server == fail |
| 01:52.26 | Linuturk | you can install one easy though |
| 01:52.32 | flybaer | I have reboot and have signed in |
| 01:52.39 | guypat | Linuturk : don't have to tell me, tell redhat :P |
| 01:52.40 | flybaer | nice letters |
| 01:53.36 | Linuturk | well, you'll have to setup port forwarding on your router for the ssh part |
| 01:53.41 | Linuturk | but, I'd change the default port |
| 01:53.55 | Linuturk | that config is in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 01:54.06 | Linuturk | I suggest nano as the text editor |
| 01:54.23 | guypat | yes, somewhere above the 20,000 range |
| 01:54.34 | Linuturk | after you make your changes to that file, you'll have to restart the service to make the changes effective |
| 01:55.49 | Linuturk | also, setting a static ip on the server is important |
| 01:56.28 | Linuturk | you'll have to make sure your dhcp server (your linksys router) has a certain range of ip's that doesn't give out, so you don't get an ip conflict |
| 01:56.46 | Linuturk | once you are sure you are secure, you can setup port forwarding |
| 01:57.26 | guypat | no iptables 101 this eve? :) |
| 01:57.37 | Linuturk | no |
| 01:57.38 | Linuturk | lol |
| 01:57.45 | Linuturk | nat firewall is good enough |
| 01:58.06 | Linuturk | but, if you do want to dig into iptables, vuurmuur is a great little config tool |
| 01:58.11 | flybaer | http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_server_ubuntu7.10_p3 |
| 01:58.17 | Linuturk | a bit difficult to understand, but once you get it, you are gold |
| 01:58.20 | flybaer | this is what I have been following |
| 01:58.29 | Linuturk | isn't a fan of the howtoforge articles |
| 01:58.34 | flybaer | I just installed vim |
| 01:58.36 | Linuturk | wiki.ubuntu.com is better |
| 01:58.57 | flybaer | it has step-by-step instructions |
| 01:59.13 | Linuturk | I don't agree with some of their practices |
| 01:59.38 | Linuturk | enabling root, and such |
| 01:59.49 | flybaer | different strokes |
| 02:00.01 | Linuturk | lol |
| 02:00.06 | guypat | i'm logged in as root all the time, other than when signing onto irc :P |
| 02:00.26 | guypat | 166 days of continues service :) |
| 02:00.33 | flybaer | see |
| 02:00.37 | flybaer | different strokes |
| 02:00.39 | Linuturk | :-/ |
| 02:01.08 | Linuturk | principle of least priveledge |
| 02:01.17 | guypat | thnk that's why I never pursued ubuntu. i liked that it was based on debian, but sudo everything???? that's just crazy talk |
| 02:01.26 | Linuturk | only run with the bare minimum priviledges |
| 02:01.30 | flybaer | it is killing me |
| 02:01.30 | Linuturk | that you need |
| 02:01.32 | Linuturk | to function |
| 02:01.33 | flybaer | I hate doing that |
| 02:01.35 | Linuturk | lol |
| 02:01.36 | guypat | kind of like vista asking three times if you want to connect to a wireless network :P |
| 02:01.46 | Linuturk | you don't have to enable root to use root |
| 02:01.56 | Linuturk | just go "sudo su" |
| 02:02.08 | Linuturk | and you're gold for that terminal |
| 02:02.27 | guypat | trew - does ubuntu offer a 32mb installation cd? :) |
| 02:02.27 | Linuturk | but running X and such as root is just asking for trouble |
| 02:02.39 | guypat | yes, i agree with that |
| 02:02.49 | guypat | now that's crazy haha |
| 02:02.59 | Linuturk | not that I know of about the 32mb cd |
| 02:03.07 | Linuturk | points to DSL |
| 02:03.11 | Linuturk | 50MB |
| 02:04.45 | guypat | here's one: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/4.0_r3/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 02:05.20 | Linuturk | you like small? Tom's Root Boot floppy |
| 02:05.37 | Linuturk | I once recovered a system using that floppy and netcat |
| 02:05.41 | Linuturk | lol |
| 02:05.45 | guypat | niiiccee |
| 02:06.02 | guypat | i run a vps so small is key for me at the moment |
| 02:06.45 | flybaer | ok, how do I save and exit in vi |
| 02:06.59 | guypat | q? |
| 02:07.05 | Linuturk | lol |
| 02:07.06 | guypat | isn't sure |
| 02:07.08 | Linuturk | :wq |
| 02:07.16 | Linuturk | that's why I say use nano |
| 02:07.18 | Linuturk | much easier |
| 02:07.22 | guypat | lol, im a pico/nano guy.. never took the time to learn vi |
| 02:08.30 | guypat | ladies and gents, it's been a pleasure. i'm off to get some much needed sleep. try not to acquire to many korean r00t shells while i'm gone :P |
| 02:10.32 | flybaer | the stupid file is read-only |
| 02:11.33 | flybaer | night to you, too |
| 02:11.41 | flybaer | I will play more tomorrow |
| 02:13.07 | flybaer | how do I sign off |
| 02:13.29 | flybaer | I promise to look up server info tomorrow so i won't ask a thousand questions |
| 02:15.07 | Linuturk | flybaer: exit |
| 02:15.14 | flybaer | that is what I did :-D |
| 02:15.22 | flybaer | thanks though |
| 13:21.33 | flybaer | I am assuming I have to change the permissions on the interfaces file before I can edit it |
| 13:24.12 | flybaer | nevermind |
| 14:12.39 | *** join/#lugot guypat (i=guy@nullamatix.com) |
| 15:35.36 | guypat | y0y0 |
| 15:35.43 | guypat | got a simple question today :) |
| 15:35.49 | guypat | what's the command to remove a user? |
| 15:37.32 | Linuturk | userdel |
| 15:39.26 | macluvjay | does loonix use pw? |
| 15:39.37 | macluvjay | guess not |
| 15:47.30 | guypat | ah, NM. deluser |
| 15:47.31 | guypat | lol |
| 16:21.22 | goozbach | I like userdel -r |
| 17:03.47 | guypat | CureDream: you make linkbaiting sound easy :P i've yet to have any positive results |
| 17:03.54 | guypat | erm, wrong channel lol |
| 17:50.47 | goozbach | guypat: are you the guy who linked to my "ipod" article on my blog? |
| 17:50.58 | goozbach | I reconize the URL |
| 17:51.09 | goozbach | s/URL/domain |