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| 15:00.04 | ekeating | ~meetstart <LDSTech Dev Scrum> |
| 15:00.04 | infobot | ********** Start of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.07.25 15:00:04 ********** |
| 15:00.08 | ekeating | Good Morning. Hope everyone had a good holiday. We missed you yesterday ;-) |
| 15:00.23 | ekeating | who's on today? |
| 15:00.29 | scgallafent | waves |
| 15:00.40 | tdeforest | hi |
| 15:00.53 | cpitt | is here |
| 15:01.01 | ekeating | okay scgallafent let's begin with you. |
| 15:01.07 | scgallafent | Yesterday ... |
| 15:01.07 | scgallafent | I fixed an issue that tdeforest found with some of the Swarm code I had updated and did some general cleanup. |
| 15:01.07 | scgallafent | All issues in Swarm v1.2.5 have been resolved. We still have four issues that are assigned to KFitz to be closed. |
| 15:01.07 | scgallafent | At this point, we should call 1.2.5 code complete and start some serious hardening. |
| 15:01.08 | scgallafent | There have been some major changes in the interface with JIRA and we need to put it through its paces. |
| 15:01.10 | ChadF | hello |
| 15:01.10 | scgallafent | Today ... |
| 15:01.12 | scgallafent | I'll be working on hardening Swarm and will also be doing some work on LDSTech -- probably auditing Fortify items. |
| 15:01.15 | scgallafent | I need ... |
| 15:01.17 | scgallafent | Help hardening Swarm. tdeforest demonstrated yesterday why it's good to have someone else test your code. |
| 15:01.19 | scgallafent | ChadF and ekeating to schedule a release meeting. |
| 15:01.21 | scgallafent | That is all. |
| 15:02.24 | ekeating | thanks. tdeforest ? |
| 15:02.42 | tdeforest | ## Yesterday |
| 15:02.42 | tdeforest | Only worked a few hours yesterday. Spent most of it testing Swarm in preparation for today's release. I tested and closed everything that wasn't reported by kfitz. We still need kfitz to close four bugs. |
| 15:02.42 | tdeforest | jdavid26 finished UI work on SWARM-521. The stats page still needs more UI work - I will be creating Jira tickets for those items. I really appreciate the time jdavid26 is contributing to LDSTech. |
| 15:02.42 | tdeforest | ## Today |
| 15:02.43 | tdeforest | I still haven't finished implementing the matchmaking mockups from so long ago. I've been derailed by Swarm and the dashbaord. |
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| 15:03.15 | tdeforest | but it looks like more testing of Swarm and the release will take precedence today |
| 15:04.02 | tdeforest | that is all |
| 15:04.28 | ekeating | sounds great, cpitt ? |
| 15:04.38 | cpitt | LDSTECH-793 - found a few plugins that achieve this. The few that I have tested thus far are either lacking or over featured. I'll probably just add the buttons manually to the template instead. I've also noticed through looking at this that the email, print, and pdf buttons aren't visible on all the articles on production and am investigating the reasons for this. |
| 15:05.01 | cpitt | LDSTECH-812 - added some checks so the script fails if it's connection to jira was interupted |
| 15:05.07 | cpitt | LDSTECH-408 - going to start on creating the phpbb theme for ldstech |
| 15:05.18 | cpitt | also free to help with testing if needed |
| 15:05.21 | cpitt | that is all |
| 15:05.43 | ekeating | thanks, ChadF ? |
| 15:05.51 | ChadF | Catch up for me today after being out this week. Will work on my action items from our dashboard meeting last Monday. Will catch up on Jira items and talk with team members about the work were about to release for Swarm 1.2.5. Lots for me to do with CSM work as well. |
| 15:05.59 | ChadF | Looks like Ill also need to make time to help test 1.2.5 items. |
| 15:05.59 | ChadF | Once I get with kfitz today re: his availability to close his 1.2.5 items, Ill schedule a release meeting with ekeating. |
| 15:05.59 | ChadF | How does tomorrow afternoon sound as a target release time assuming testing goes well? |
| 15:06.22 | scgallafent | Sounds good. I'm gone next week, so I'd like to get released tomorrow instead of Friday. |
| 15:06.36 | ChadF | Thats it for me. |
| 15:07.08 | ekeating | good for me. I've finished diggin the trenches for my light wiring so it's all downhill from here |
| 15:07.34 | ekeating | anyone else want to add their report today? |
| 15:08.19 | ekeating | any other questions/comments? |
| 15:08.22 | ChadF | is smootar out today? |
| 15:08.51 | ChadF | and timriker? |
| 15:09.02 | ekeating | must be, I sent him an email yesterday but still haven't heard back |
| 15:09.11 | ekeating | timriker is out all week |
| 15:09.12 | tdeforest | timriker is out. smootar i don't know |
| 15:10.01 | ChadF | is 3:30 Thur too late to do a release review then release? |
| 15:10.11 | ChadF | or should we do 1pm? |
| 15:10.38 | ekeating | either is fine with me. |
| 15:10.57 | tdeforest | i like 1pm better |
| 15:10.58 | ChadF | scgallafent, ? |
| 15:11.02 | ekeating | it kind of depends on kfitz |
| 15:11.14 | scgallafent | Had to check the calendar ... either one works for me. |
| 15:11.49 | ChadF | ok - I'll shoot for 1pm then we can bump it back if needed |
| 15:12.29 | ekeating | okay, got it down. where will we have it? |
| 15:12.59 | ChadF | I'll try for the team room now |
| 15:13.20 | ChadF | so we can use pvc |
| 15:14.07 | ekeating | sounds good. I probably won't be in shirt and tie as I'll be switdhing from working outside to the meeting and back out again. |
| 15:14.17 | ChadF | got the room - but nearly all of our team shows busy in outlook at 1pm tomorrow, and smootar shows out |
| 15:14.31 | ChadF | np ekeating |
| 15:15.09 | ekeating | okay, just let us know on the conflict with the others and we'll move forward. |
| 15:15.10 | ChadF | lets all do what we can to make time today and tomorrow am to test 1.2.5 closed items & make sure they're ready to go out |
| 15:15.30 | ChadF | yup |
| 15:15.36 | ekeating | okay, this is the way the meetings should go. I appreciate everyone having their reports pre-typed. It saves a lot of time. |
| 15:16.02 | ChadF | scgallafent, did smootart say anything about releasing while he's away? I assume he is fine with us doing that |
| 15:16.20 | ChadF | I say we do it unless he said not to |
| 15:16.23 | scgallafent | He didn't say anything about that. |
| 15:16.34 | scgallafent | Is he still out tomorrow? |
| 15:18.06 | ekeating | Have a great day and talk with you tomorrow. |
| 15:18.09 | ekeating | ~meetend <LDSTech Dev Scrum> |
| 15:18.09 | infobot | ********** End of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.07.25 15:18:09 ********** |
| 15:18.36 | ChadF | scgallafent, smootar's calendar shows in today and out tomorrow |
| 15:19.10 | scgallafent | OK. If he's in today, we can talk to him about it. |
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| 16:12.39 | tdeforest | is still known as tdeforest |
| 16:19.51 | tdeforest | scgallafent, before, we trimmed the display of the priority text for mobile screens. it appears some of that functionality has been lost. i'm looking at the edit/add test case page |
| 16:20.20 | scgallafent | We disabled it at some point -- I can't remember why. The JavaScript is still commented at the bottom of the JS block at the bottom. |
| 16:20.32 | scgallafent | Oh, sorry. Wrong item. |
| 16:20.59 | scgallafent | thinks |
| 16:21.28 | scgallafent | tdeforest, we were changing the width of the select list so that you only saw the number instead of the full text. |
| 16:21.41 | tdeforest | ah |
| 16:21.49 | tdeforest | that's right. i remember now |
| 16:21.53 | scgallafent | Why don't I wrap the content in a span so that the full description can be hidden (display: none) for mobile? |
| 16:22.04 | tdeforest | yes. let's do that |
| 16:22.38 | scgallafent | OK. I'll make the change right now and let you know when it's ready. |
| 16:22.52 | tdeforest | perfect |
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| 16:59.45 | scgallafent | tdeforest, I'm having trouble finding my way around the CSS file. Can you add a style rule that sets .priority-long-desc to display: none for mobile and check it in? |
| 17:00.54 | tdeforest | i will do that. and i apologize for the css file. it needs some serious love |
| 17:03.42 | tdeforest | done |
| 17:04.09 | scgallafent | OK. Thanks. |
| 17:12.26 | tdeforest | has anyone heard from kfitz? |
| 17:29.08 | ChadF | nope |
| 17:29.20 | ChadF | I'll try kfitz again |
| 17:29.36 | ChadF | smootar is picking up his son at the airport right now! |
| 17:29.44 | ChadF | cool payday for parents |
| 17:31.17 | ChadF | just spoke to kfitz |
| 17:31.28 | ChadF | he is in meetings most of today, but said he'd test his items this afternoon |
| 17:31.57 | ChadF | he thinks we'll be ok to release tomorrow since its only a few items in 1.2.5 ... as long as hardening goes well |
| 17:33.31 | tdeforest | thanks ChadF |
| 17:34.03 | scgallafent | Famous last words: "it's only a few items in 1.2.5" |
| 17:34.22 | scgallafent | tdeforest , the fix is committed. See if that solves it. |
| 17:35.13 | tdeforest | scgallafent, looks good |
| 17:35.17 | tdeforest | thank you |
| 17:35.29 | scgallafent | You're welcome. Nothing like a little CSS and JavaScript magic. |
| 17:47.45 | ChadF | scgallafent, tdeforest : looks like all user roles in swarm edit existing category names and create new categories |
| 17:47.52 | ChadF | does that make sense? |
| 17:48.04 | ChadF | seems only the manager role should be able to do that |
| 17:48.33 | tdeforest | ChadF, checking... |
| 17:49.26 | ChadF | also, why can't I, when logged in as an admin (pholder) edit a test case? |
| 17:52.52 | tdeforest | ChadF, scgallafent i just confirmed that cholder is able to edit categories on the frodo project. he is an observer on this project but he was previously a DBA |
| 17:53.57 | ChadF | I was in as ktester1 and could edit existing categories and create new ones, but couldn't create new test cases (I think ... I'll verify now) |
| 17:54.00 | ChadF | scgallafent, ??? |
| 17:55.04 | tdeforest | cholder is able to add a test case as an observer |
| 17:55.09 | ChadF | looks like ktester1 is an admin on the project I was messing with... |
| 17:55.26 | ChadF | but why can't admins edit existing test cases scgallafent ? |
| 17:56.39 | tdeforest | ChadF, scgallafent i am able to edit existing test cases as jadmin in the frodo project |
| 17:58.24 | ChadF | my bad - neverminde |
| 17:58.27 | ChadF | mind |
| 17:58.29 | ChadF | user error |
| 17:58.33 | tdeforest | i am also able to edit test cases as jadmin in the a last kevin test project |
| 17:58.50 | tdeforest | which will probably make kfitz happy :) |
| 18:00.41 | tdeforest | ChadF, i was able to verify your first bug (editing by observer) but not the second bug |
| 18:00.53 | tdeforest | and now i must get some food before i faint |
| 18:01.49 | ChadF | I'm not sure that ktester1 was only an observer on the project |
| 18:01.57 | ChadF | I was editing |
| 18:07.00 | ChadF | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.27 | ChadF | in the hello project, he can't see the edit button and he can't edit category names or create new categories |
| 18:08.13 | ChadF | I think it was all user error - I thought ktester1 and 2 were always only observers, but ktester1 is an admin on all (I think ) of the cdev projects he has joined |
| 18:15.01 | scgallafent | gets back to the computer |
| 18:16.13 | scgallafent | ChadF, if you can give me a specific case where the user can edit and you think they shouldn't be able to, I'll check the data and see what's going on. |
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| 18:32.01 | tdeforest | scgallafent, i made Cholder an observer and he can still edit categories, etc |
| 18:32.08 | scgallafent | Which project? |
| 18:33.19 | tdeforest | frodo |
| 18:34.48 | scgallafent | tests |
| 18:35.27 | scgallafent | tdeforest, try now. |
| 18:35.41 | tdeforest | tests... |
| 18:36.29 | tdeforest | scgallafent, the edit button no longer appears for Cholder |
| 18:36.37 | tdeforest | on the frodo project |
| 18:36.50 | scgallafent | OK. Now I get to dig a little deeper and see what's happening underneath. Hooray! |
| 18:37.02 | tdeforest | fun! |
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| 18:53.18 | scgallafent | tdeforest, ChadF: Joomla isn't making the call to Swarm to update Swarm roles. I'm chasing it down. |
| 18:53.41 | tdeforest | ah |
| 18:59.58 | tdeforest | this hardening is hard |
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| 19:07.27 | scgallafent | Even though it's a "small" sprint, there are some pretty significant changes underneath |
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| 20:59.19 | ChadF | catching up on the dialog about the observer having edit rights bug |
| 21:00.11 | ChadF | looks like tdeforest was able to recreate it -- could it be happening only when a user has been given a role other than observer and is then brought back to the observer role? Perhaps we aren't removing rights once they've been given in swarm |
| 21:01.02 | ChadF | scgallafent, ? |
| 21:01.29 | scgallafent | No. The rights aren't updated after they are changed. |
| 21:01.56 | scgallafent | <scgallafent> Joomla isn't making the call to Swarm to update Swarm roles. I'm chasing it down. |
| 21:27.30 | ChadF | scgallafent, for https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-567 I can't really test this to confirm its working |
| 21:27.33 | ChadF | right? |
| 21:27.59 | ChadF | I'd need to see that our fake users are not getting jira emails after their initial report |
| 21:28.07 | scgallafent | Correct. |
| 21:33.20 | ChadF | tdeforest, can you line up the fail/pass bar chart graphic with the left side of the buttons above it? |
| 21:34.52 | cpitt | ChadF, for SWARM-567 you can always just check the associated jira ticket's watcher's list. |
| 21:35.15 | cpitt | Not on the watchlist should = no email |
| 21:35.30 | ChadF | are we sure jira doesn't email non watchers who are the owners of the jira ticket? |
| 21:35.40 | scgallafent | It does. |
| 21:35.52 | scgallafent | Just a minute and I'll wrap up my phone call and jump in. |
| 21:36.03 | cpitt | owner of the Ticket can't unwatch |
| 21:36.17 | cpitt | unfortunately |
| 21:36.23 | tdeforest | ChadF, let's not do that. the position of the button and drop down is going to change. also we're going to add the hours to this page in the next sprint. this change will require moving stuff around again and then they won't be aligned. |
| 21:38.39 | ChadF | what button and drop down will change position tdeforest ? Even if we're going to redesign this page eventually, it would look better to have the left side of the graphic line up with the left side of the pass fail #s immediately above it and with the left side of the filter an All Categories drop down ... for now |
| 21:40.05 | ChadF | so, if we're making the first swarm user who fails a test case the owner of the Jira item, then this isn't fixing the spam for them .. only for subsequent users who mark that item as failed - right scgallafent ? |
| 21:40.40 | scgallafent | Right. On the phone with TurboLDS. Give me a couple minutes to wrap up so I can concentrate on this. |
| 21:40.47 | tdeforest | the category select and the filter button. |
| 21:42.14 | tdeforest | the form elements are spaced out quite a bit right now. they should be close to each other so users know they are associated with each other |
| 21:43.16 | scgallafent | is back |
| 21:43.30 | scgallafent | Owner of the ticket can unwatch, but they still get the email. |
| 21:43.56 | scgallafent | There was a separate item to modify the issue create process so that the issue is created by the person who entered the test case instead of the person who failed the test case. |
| 21:44.00 | scgallafent | That should be working correctly now. |
| 21:44.08 | scgallafent | So we've got two things that should happen: |
| 21:44.22 | scgallafent | 1. When the user fails a test case, the issue should be created by the person who created the test case |
| 21:44.37 | scgallafent | 2. When the user fails the test case, the user also immediately unwatches the test case |
| 21:44.50 | scgallafent | Those two things combined should solve the issue with the barrage of emails after you fail a case. |
| 21:45.41 | scgallafent | ChadF, looking at your question about the bar graph |
| 21:46.30 | scgallafent | Are you asking to move the axis labels (Fail/Pass and the numbers) left so that the Y-axis of the graph is lined up with the left side of the info box with pass/fail totals? |
| 21:46.44 | scgallafent | keeps reading comments |
| 21:47.22 | scgallafent | ChadF, your understanding asking if this doesn't fix spam for them but only for subsequent fails is correct. |
| 21:47.36 | scgallafent | The second fix (make test case creator issue owner in JIRA) solves that problem. |
| 21:48.01 | ChadF | scgallafent, I didn't know till now that you were able to finish the other fix, to make the Jira owner the test case creator |
| 21:48.02 | scgallafent | has caught up on discussion |
| 21:48.20 | scgallafent | I managed to get it working. |
| 21:48.37 | ChadF | that, plus the unwatch should fix spam for all but those who are active in creating test cases, which will usually be employees (for the forseeable future) |
| 21:49.29 | scgallafent | Correct. |
| 21:49.44 | scgallafent | And for those who create test cases it isn't really spam. |
| 21:50.22 | ChadF | as for the graphic, I was asking tdeforest to just move the entire graphic (the bar chart one) with the labels it has on the left and below it, to the left a little so that it would look alligned with the 3 items above it that are all left-aligned on that page. Not a big deal, but if it is easy, it would look more uniform/professional |
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| 21:55.52 | tdeforest | i'll look removing the padding on the inside of the left side of the graphic but i don't know that php script well enough to be able to say whether that is possible and whether it is easy |
| 21:56.34 | tdeforest | how much time should i spend on this? |
| 21:57.19 | tdeforest | and where does it fall in my priority list? |
| 21:57.32 | scgallafent | It's a pretty complex process. |
| 21:58.29 | scgallafent | The bar graph is a single graphic image. Moving the graph axis to the left (so that is would be aligned with the categories drop list, filter button, and the legend) would require modifying both the pie graph and the bar graph |
| 21:58.49 | scgallafent | We would need to do the following: |
| 21:59.00 | scgallafent | 1. Steal some blank space from the right side of the pie graph |
| 21:59.10 | scgallafent | 2. Add some space to the left side of the bar graph |
| 21:59.41 | scgallafent | 3. Move the legend to the right (away from the border, which actually moved left) so that it shows up in the same place |
| 21:59.57 | scgallafent | 4. Expand the size of the bar graph to take up the space added on the left |
| 22:00.03 | tdeforest | i see |
| 22:00.06 | scgallafent | That creates problems with the responsive design. |
| 22:00.18 | scgallafent | Right now the pie graph and the bar graph are two images of identical size |
| 22:00.34 | scgallafent | When the viewport gets narrow, the bar graph drops down so that it is below the pie graph. |
| 22:00.44 | scgallafent | We would end up with two different size graphics, one under the other. |
| 22:00.56 | scgallafent | It would need some tweaking to make it work on the small screens. |
| 22:00.58 | ChadF | tdeforest, I thought it would be a 5 min thing - if its more than 20 min, don't worry about it |
| 22:01.08 | scgallafent | Probably more like a couple of hours |
| 22:01.35 | scgallafent | Another alternative -- a little cheaper than the others -- is to take the axis labels and move them from the left side to the right side. |
| 22:01.38 | ChadF | just caught up on scgallafent 's explanation of what this would take |
| 22:01.40 | ChadF | not worth it for now |
| 22:01.59 | scgallafent | That would move that Y axis over so that it lines up under everything else, but it's a little non-standard to have the labels on the right side. |
| 22:02.04 | ChadF | let's not worry tdeforest about it for now |
| 22:02.11 | scgallafent | Sounds good to me! |
| 22:02.18 | tdeforest | :) |
| 22:02.21 | ChadF | you and I need to reassess that page soon & tweak or redesign it significantly |
| 22:03.00 | tdeforest | scgallafent, that's a good idea. but the left side might still be offset by the dates at the bottom |
| 22:03.24 | scgallafent | We would need to change the angle on the dates so that they slope down-right instead of down-left |
| 22:03.36 | tdeforest | ChadF, i've got a laundry list of improvements for that page myself. i'm interested to hear sometime what you would like to change |
| 22:03.50 | tdeforest | scgallafent, ah. that works |
| 22:03.50 | ChadF | let's talk Mon when I'm in about it |
| 22:03.59 | tdeforest | k |
| 22:04.02 | ChadF | scgallafent, did you look at https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-434 |
| 22:04.29 | ChadF | I may have already asked you about this one - I want to make sure we don't have any need for our own "back" button |
| 22:04.33 | scgallafent | Gary Parker has been looking into it. He added a comment to it about 60 seconds ago. |
| 22:04.40 | scgallafent | Check his comment. |
| 22:04.45 | ChadF | some sites (espeically on form pages) will use it to store info across pages |
| 22:04.56 | *** join/#ldstech Turbolds (~Turbop@67-2-189-152.slkc.qwest.net) |
| 22:05.07 | scgallafent | And here he is, Turbolds. |
| 22:05.11 | scgallafent | Take it away. :) |
| 22:05.48 | Turbolds | tdeforest, I have added a comment to swarm-434 I would like your opinion on. |
| 22:06.07 | tdeforest | reads |
| 22:06.12 | ChadF | Turbolds, I'm not sure I fully understand your comment on that item |
| 22:06.13 | Turbolds | scgallafent, sometimes making notes takes a while. |
| 22:06.37 | Turbolds | chadF, in what respect? |
| 22:06.44 | scgallafent | We were just talking about that item and I said you had just posted a comment a minute ago. |
| 22:07.08 | scgallafent | You showed up less than 30 seconds after I mentioned your name. :) |
| 22:07.22 | tdeforest | nice timing :) |
| 22:07.27 | ChadF | it sounds like you're saying that our back button does something different than the browser back button in some cases. I'm not clear from your comment on |
| 22:07.31 | Turbolds | scgallafent, yea! |
| 22:07.31 | ChadF | a) which cases |
| 22:07.44 | ChadF | b) what it does differently from the browser back button in those cases |
| 22:08.44 | Turbolds | ChadF, it's not case specific. The browser tracks every page one goes to, so if you wander around two or three cases, that is what the back button on the brower will take one to. |
| 22:09.25 | Turbolds | chadF, The back button we put on the page takes one directly back to where they originally came from. |
| 22:15.13 | tdeforest | so it cuts out additional steps in their path if they clicked around. but removal of the back button won't cause form submission errors if a user clicks the browser back button, correct? |
| 22:19.58 | Turbolds | tdeforest, correct. Everything I tested without the back button worked normally. |
| 22:20.53 | tdeforest | k |
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