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14:52.09smootarscgallafent, that Uniform Server was pretty slick.  Easy to setup and run.
14:52.35scgallafentYes. It feels much cleaner than other WAMP installs I have used.
14:52.53scgallafentThe biggest issue we ran into was having to manually enable SOAP.
14:53.04tdeforestjdavid26, i think i found a mistake from our swarm setup on your machine yesterday
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15:00.45ekeating~meetstart <LDSTech Dev Scrum>
15:00.45infobot********** Start of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.06.06 15:00:45 **********
15:00.53ekeatingGood morning, welcome to the first scrum of the new sprint
15:01.31ekeatingas such, we won't go through each open/resolved issue but instead ask you to report on any
15:01.36*** join/#ldstech chadf (47d515b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.213.21.181)
15:02.13chadfHi
15:02.14ekeatingquestions, help or potential problems you may have need of
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15:02.32tdeforestjdavid26, came in yesterday and I started getting his local setup of swarm running. we ran out of time but made some progress before i had to leave
15:02.58ekeatingwill he be joining us today?
15:03.01tdeforesti need to help him finish getting it setup and then he'll be available to help us complete tickets for this sprint
15:03.15tdeforesthe's here right now.
15:03.41chadfGlad to have you back jdavid26
15:03.49ekeatingwelome jdavid26 nice to have you here
15:04.20ekeatingsorry I didn't notice you on the list
15:04.29tdeforestthat is all
15:05.03ekeatingany report from you tdeforest ?
15:05.25smootarwaves
15:05.37jdavid26good morning
15:06.03tdeforestthat's all for me
15:06.24ekeatingthanks
15:06.41ekeatingscgallafent, ?
15:07.06scgallafentI spent most of yesterday working with Gary Parker, who is planning to start as a Church service missionary working on LDSTech.
15:07.06scgallafentHe is going to work on one of my Swarm items as his starting task.
15:07.06scgallafentToday I'm working on a couple of LDSTech issues I have picked from my list.
15:07.06scgallafentThat is all.
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15:07.44ekeatingthank you
15:08.28ekeatingDid you invite him to join us here?
15:09.13scgallafentI did. Not sure if he will be here.
15:09.17scgallafentHe isn't here now.
15:09.31ekeatingWe'll watch for him
15:09.50ekeatingcpitt?
15:10.54cpittNothing to report just working on https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-759
15:11.07ekeatinggreat, thank you
15:11.27ekeatingTimRiker, any updates?
15:11.58TimRikerfound one possible cause of our members list out-of-sync
15:12.17TimRikerlooks like joomla fails to add a 2 users using the same email, but we allow that in talent pool.
15:12.27TimRikerlooks like we're still not handling nick changes well.
15:12.38TimRikermore looking into that today
15:13.16TimRiker~ldstech 734 work. that's all for me.
15:13.17infobothttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-734 work. that's all for me.
15:13.27ekeatingthank you
15:13.32ekeatingJoshBang, ?
15:13.47JoshBangNothing from me.
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15:14.33ekeatingzakzakattack, I see one of the resolved issues has already been assigned to you
15:14.44ekeatingdo you need anything to help you?
15:14.52zakzakattackJya im going to be working on LDSTECH-692 and LDSTECH-459
15:15.02zakzakattackyes*
15:15.31zakzakattacknope i think im god . if i have any questions i will sure ask
15:15.37zakzakattackgood*
15:15.40Guest7849Guest7849 alias Turbo alias Gary P has checked in
15:16.15ekeatingwelcome turboman1
15:16.26zakzakattacksorry not use to typing on a regular keyboard
15:16.33Guest7849Thanks - glad to be here.
15:17.14ekeatingzakzakattack, what kind do you normally use?
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15:17.56smootarGuest7849, you can change your name back to "Turbo" by typing "/nick Turbo"
15:17.58zakzakattackjust use to typeing on my ipad lately. and im not the best typest either
15:18.00jdavid26dvorak
15:18.26scgallafentTurbo is a reserved nick, so it won't allow you to use it.
15:18.29TimRikersmootar, if that nick is already registered, the system will just change it again
15:18.46smootarnods
15:19.06smootarGuest7849, you can change your name to "Turbo1" by typing "/nick Turbo1"
15:19.28ekeatingI've tried to register mine a couple of times and it takes it but never emails me a confirmation
15:19.57ekeatingam I missing something?
15:20.35Guest7849Doesn't look like "nick" worked so far.
15:21.10ekeatingchadf, smootar anything you'd like to contribute this morning?
15:21.15smootarGary P. is being added to the team as an LDSTech CSM, welcome "Turbo".
15:21.15smootarThe Uniform Server was pretty slick to setup.
15:21.15smootarWe have some clean-up to do to make it easy for people to setup the dev environment.
15:21.15smootarWe need to make it clear what dev env's are available on LDSTech and guide people down the right path.
15:21.15smootarThat's it for me.
15:21.46chadfI've sent lots of potential matches for CSM openings to ICS managers the last 2 days.... should be caught up enough there to work more this afternoon on design & requirements for the new talent pool
15:22.22chadfwill also load up cpitt today with some fortify and some byu penetration testing recommendations to fill up his time for this sprint
15:22.24chadfthat's all for me
15:22.27smootarI sent chadf an email on the above item.
15:23.12ekeatinganyone else like to add anything to this meeting?
15:24.05chadfgot it smootar - will look into it & make sure we clarify the readme etc
15:24.15smootarnods thanks.
15:24.17scgallafentchadf, I'm running a fresh Fortify scan on LDSTech right now.
15:25.04tdeforestsmootar, i also added a ticket about documentation for swarm setup. scgallafent has already made some notes for improving the documentation
15:25.11chadfnice - you thought there may be some logical 'chunks' of fortify work that could be put into a few Jira tickets, right scgallafent?
15:25.19scgallafentchadf, yes.
15:25.43smootartdeforest, thank you.  I would like to test that.
15:26.00chadfplease let me know if I need to create those scgallafent
15:26.06scgallafentchadf, will do.
15:26.22scgallafentsmootar, I'm going to set up my local install of Swarm in the next day or so and will add documentation when I do.
15:26.45smootarscgallafent, great.  Let me know when you are done.  I would like to got through those steps on my machine.
15:27.08tdeforestsmootar, i'll add you as a watcher on the ticket
15:27.19smootarsmiles. Thx
15:27.40ekeatingPlease remeber to put any new issues/tickets into the backlog "version" and notify chadf so he can move them to the correct sprint.
15:27.59ekeatingor version
15:28.32tdeforest~swarm 500 is in backlog chadf
15:28.32infobothttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/SWARM-500 is in backlog chadf
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15:29.28chadfsounds like its going to be completed in our current release (aka "Steve")
15:29.35chadfI'll move it up
15:29.54ekeatinglooks like we're well underway for 2.7.  We're grateful for the new participants.  Please let us know if there is anything we can do to make your experience
15:30.06ekeatingmore enjoyable
15:30.39ekeatingwe're out of time for this meeting today.  See you all tomorrow.
15:30.51ekeating~meetend <LDSTech Dev Scrum>
15:30.51infobot********** End of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.06.06 15:30:51 **********
15:30.52chadfthx everyone
15:31.06ekeatingthanks all
15:31.27tdeforestjdavid26, did you get my note about updating the K_URL setting in local-config.php
15:31.48jdavid26*checking now*
15:32.22jdavid26yes
15:32.34jdavid26I'll test that out
15:32.49tdeforestis now a good time to debug your setup?
15:33.18jdavid26Yes. In a quick minute. I need to step away for a second. brb.
15:33.30tdeforestk
15:36.43ekeatingTimRiker, or scgallafent should I be going to "nickserv" or "chanserv" to register my nickname?
15:37.04TimRikerekeating, /msg nickserv help
15:37.05scgallafentnickserv
15:37.09scgallafenthttp://docs.dal.net/docs/nickserv.html
15:37.26jdavid26tdeforest, I'm back. Changing K_URL now.
15:37.53tdeforestjdavid26, k
15:38.01ekeatingthat's what I thought but still waiting for the email verification.  I'll try again today, thanks
15:39.58TimRikerminor jira update will likely get applied in cdev today. if you see swarm/joomla hiccups, it might be that.
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15:43.10tdeforestwonders how tomorrow's upgrade to SVN affect our working copies?
15:44.46jdavid26tdeforest, swarm works. I get an index (list of files) at the ~/lds/swarm/ dir and I get a "Please sign in" page at ~/lds/swarm/web/
15:44.59tdeforestnice!
15:45.18tdeforestnow to see if the header bait and switch works
15:45.31tdeforestsign in on cdev.lds.org/swarm in a different tab
15:45.32jdavid26now… I need to sign in on cdev, right?
15:45.42tdeforestyes
15:46.15jdavid26did that
15:46.57jdavid26now should I be logged in on localhost?
15:47.03tdeforestyes
15:47.09tdeforestrefresh the localhost page
15:47.22jdavid26I still get the sign in page
15:47.37tdeforestshould be something like https://localhost.lds.org/~lds/swarm/web/
15:48.07tdeforestyou need the .lds.org bit in there to trick the wam headers into working 'locally'
15:48.46jdavid26Oh. So I need to create a vhosts entry
15:48.53tdeforestno
15:49.03scgallafentThere is a DNS entry for localhost.lds.org that points to 127.0.0.1.
15:49.10tdeforestjust click on the link above and you should be signed in
15:50.28jdavid26sweet
15:50.38jdavid26"Not Found"
15:50.47jdavid26*changing K_URL again*
15:51.30tdeforestjdavid26, would you mind joining me on Skype so i can see what is happening?
15:58.02johnsonthI assume that in your project settings, even if you have the Swarm check box selected, if you don't also have the JIRA box selected, you won't see your project listed at Projects > Swarm, right?
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16:21.33tdeforestbrb
16:22.58jdavid26TimRiker, I'm working with tdeforest on setting up swarm on my localhost. Looks like everything is working except the login.
16:23.56jdavid26the path to swarm is https://localhost.lds.org/~user/lds/swarm/web/
16:23.58smootarjdavid26 & tdeforest, are you updating a doc with the configuration and setup steps?
16:24.48jdavid26smootar, I haven't. Is there a current doc to update?
16:25.09TimRikerjdavid26, do you have joomla working? does it have swarm and jira configured? what do you get when you try:
16:25.26TimRikerhttps://localhost.lds.org/~user/lds/swarm/web/api/create_project/SAMPLE ?
16:25.55jdavid26I have joomla working. I'll look at the swarm/jira config
16:27.41jdavid26Haha. Where can I see if joomla has swarm and jira configured?
16:28.09TimRikeradministrator panel, com_talentpool parameters
16:29.03jdavid26I think we did that. I'll take a look.
16:31.09tdeforestsmootar, we've got a README in the web/ directory of swarm. we'll be adding notes there.
16:31.46smootartdeforest, thanks.
16:34.48jdavid26TimRiker, jira is setup in parameters (I think) but not Swarm
16:35.53tdeforestah. my bad.
16:35.58tdeforesthttps://localhost.lds.org/swarm/web/
16:36.06tdeforestor the path for your setup
16:36.19tdeforesthttps://localhost.lds.org/~guy/lds/swarm/web/
16:38.35jdavid26Ok. I see the sign in page at https://localhost.lds.org/~guy/lds/swarm/web/
16:39.27jdavid26I used that same URL for URL for Swarm in the administrator panel, com_talentpool parameters.
16:42.48jdavid26TimRiker, we think it may be a problem with my localhost ssl configuration
16:43.45TimRikernote: local signin/signout will NOT work. what does work is to re-use the signin you currently have on cdev
16:44.16jdavid26right.
16:44.31jdavid26I'm signing into cdev successfully
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16:46.16tdeforestjdavid26, paste in your error log results so TimRiker can see it
16:47.36jdavid26This is my apache error log
16:47.37jdavid26[Wed Jun 06 10:47:03 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: /Library/WebServer/Documents/favicon.ico
16:48.01jdavid26the same thing happens when using http, but the path is different...
16:48.23TimRikerignore the favicon entries
16:48.34jdavid26There aren't any other errors.
16:48.52TimRikerwhat about your access log?
16:49.05jdavid26*checking now*
16:49.09TimRikerwhat does https://localhost.lds.org/~guy/lds/swarm/web/api/create_project/SAMPLE  get you?
16:50.05jdavid26"Not found"
16:50.14jdavid26error logs:
16:50.16jdavid26[Wed Jun 06 10:49:39 2012] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: /Library/WebServer/Documents/Users
16:51.15jdavid26access logs: 127.0.0.1 - - [06/Jun/2012:10:49:39 -0600] "GET /~guy/lds/swarm/web/api/create_project/SAMPLE HTTP/1.1" 404 385
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16:55.11jdavid26I changed .htaccess to use RewriteBase /~guy/lds/swarm/web
16:55.31jdavid26I get "Project SAMPLE created successfully"
16:55.32jdavid26<PROTECTED>
16:56.00tdeforestthat sounds like a good thing
16:56.13scgallafentThat's a really good thing, because it means it's working. :)
16:56.20tdeforest:)
16:56.48tdeforestso for his install the he needs the rewrite base set. can anyone explain why?
16:57.13tdeforestso i can add it to the documentation for scenarios that need it
16:59.16jdavid26I'm signed in at https://cdev.lds.org/swarm/projects but I still hit the sign in page on https://localhost.lds.org/~guy/lds/swarm/web/
17:00.19scgallafenttdeforest, I'm surprised you didn't have to set rewrite base for yours.
17:00.25scgallafentis going to reboot....
17:00.55tdeforestjdavid26, like i said, i'm running xampp so the environment is slightly different from yours
17:01.10jdavid26tdeforest, do you have a .htaccess in the swarm dir (not swarm/web)?
17:01.24tdeforestno. .htaccess only in the web dir
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17:09.10tdeforestscgallafent, i added some initial documentation to the web/README for WAM sign in. I'm sure it will need editing. Patches welcome :)
17:09.42scgallafentI'll configure my box -- probably tomorrow -- and update it then. Thanks.
17:12.03tdeforestjdavid26, i'm confused why you still aren't able to sign in locally. are you pointed at https?
17:12.25scgallafentYou have to use https://localhost.lds.org/.... or you won't get the WAM cookie.
17:13.01jdavid26Yes. I'm pointed at https. I'm looking in the readme.txt at 1. Configure jira and swarm in the joomla > administrator > com_talentpool parameters
17:13.42scgallafentYou don't need to do that to just run Swarm. You were able to call create_project, correct?
17:13.58jdavid26correct
17:14.09scgallafentWhat do you get when you go to https://cdev.lds.org/header?
17:15.26jdavid26Welcome jadmin. You have authenticated successfully!
17:15.38scgallafentOK, so you've got the WAM cookie.
17:16.08jdavid26a log out link, Web Server Info, and a bunch of HTTP Header Variables
17:16.21scgallafentNow try https://localhost.lds.org/~guy/lds/swarm/web/api/create_project/SAMPLE and you should get the project created message again.
17:16.54jdavid26"Project SAMPLE updated successfully"
17:16.58scgallafentNext try https://localhost.lds.org/~guy/lds/swarm/web/projects.
17:17.23jdavid26"Please sign in"
17:17.29scgallafentGrrrr.
17:17.43scgallafentDatabase created?
17:17.56jdavid26the swarm database
17:17.57jdavid26yes
17:18.16scgallafentCheck to see if the project is listed in the database and if jadmin is listed in project_roles.
17:22.54jdavid26the project row was created in the projects table
17:23.05scgallafentWhat is in project_roles?
17:23.42jdavid26and the project_roles table does have a row with  SAMPLEjadmin1
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17:24.30scgallafentLooking at code ....
17:29.28scgallafentjdavid26, did you uncomment WAM_EMULATION_URL in your config file?
17:30.51jdavid26haha!
17:31.22jdavid26it says WAM_EMULATION_UTL
17:31.27jdavid26wow
17:31.44tdeforestUTL won't work ;)
17:31.47scgallafentDetails, details.
17:32.14tdeforestscgallafent, i just added that as a default in example-local-config.php
17:32.30tdeforestseems it should be there since it's required to run swarm locally now :)
17:33.10scgallafentMy file already has that line, but it's commented.
17:33.36tdeforestinteresting. mine didn't have it
17:33.45scgallafentsvn up
17:33.46tdeforesti ran svn up
17:33.55scgallafentscratches head
17:34.18jdavid26mine didn't have it either
17:35.00scgallafentIt looks like it was added on May 24.
17:35.49jdavid26oh, did I mention it works?
17:36.06scgallafentCool.
17:36.14tdeforestare there files being ignored that shouldn't be?
17:36.28scgallafenttdeforest, https://code.lds.org/wsvn/swarm/trunk/config/example-local-config.php?op=diff&&all=1
17:37.18tdeforestoh at the bottom
17:37.39tdeforesti was ignoring the commented line at the bottom
17:37.59tdeforesti added it up top under selfsupprt
17:38.21scgallafentI saw that.
17:43.16tdeforestthanks TimRiker and scgallafent for your help!
17:43.24scgallafentYou're welcome.
17:44.50jdavid26Yes. Thank you. I'll edit readme.txt and add, "Search local-config.php for UTL and replace with URL"
17:45.01scgallafent<grin />
17:45.33tdeforesthehe
17:45.45tdeforestgets some lunch
17:46.20jdavid26*stepping out*
17:54.18TimRikertdeforest, WAM_EMULATION_URL is not well supported, and MUST not be enabled on dev/production deploys. IMHO it should NOT be enabled in the sample config. It should be there, with a comment about what works and what does not work.
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18:15.20tdeforestTimRiker, that makes sense
18:54.51TimRikerscgallafent, what do I need to run to upgrade my local wiki? I think I have the extensions right now
18:55.08scgallafentphp maintenance/upgrade.php
18:55.33TimRikermaintenance/upgrade1_5.php ?
18:55.40scgallafentNo. Looking.
18:56.07scgallafentSorry. maintenance/update.php
18:56.20TimRiker:q
18:56.23TimRikerww
18:56.31scgallafentI haven't figured out the deal with the new LDAP extension. You may need to put the old one in place to use LDAP.
18:56.36scgallafentOn my list of things to tackle.
18:57.18TimRiker"CREATE TABLE `ldstechwiki`.`LDSTechsmw_ids` (smw_id  INT(8) UNSIGNED NOT NULL KEY AUTO_INCREMENT,smw_namespace  INT(11) NOT NULL,smw_title  VARBINARY(255) NOT NULL,smw_iw  VARCHAR(32) binary NOT NULL,smw_subobject  VARBINARY(255) NOT NULL,smw_sortkey  VARBINARY(255) NOT NULL) TYPE=InnoDB"
18:57.18TimRikerfrom within function "SMWSQLHelpers::createTable".
18:57.18TimRikerDatabase returned error "1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'TYPE=InnoDB' at line 1 (localhost)"
18:57.53scgallafentDisable Semantic MediaWiki in localsettings and see if that solves that.
18:58.38TimRikerwell, got past it at least.
18:59.16scgallafentIf you're upgrading from an older version of the wiki, you'll need to go to Special:SMWAdmin after reenabling SMW to create the tables.
19:00.35TimRikerException caught inside exception handler: exception 'DBQueryError' with message 'A database error has occurred. Did you forget to run maintenance/update.php after upgrading?
19:01.01scgallafentSMW is still disabled?
19:01.25TimRikerno, seems fine with it disabled. that's trying the special page with it re-enabled
19:01.40scgallafentOK. I'll bet it's tripping over the individual extensions. Urgh.
19:02.35scgallafentGo to /extensions/semantic-bundle and edit SemanticBundleSettings.php.
19:03.03scgallafentDisable the includes there (which disables the individual extension), run SWMAdmin, and then reenable.
19:03.16TimRikerunset: $wgDBTableOptions   = 'TYPE=InnoDB'; and it seemed to update ok.
19:03.42scgallafentMust be a foreign key that it didn't see.
19:04.26TimRikerthey all use InnoDB on my local machine anyway. it didn't like the syntax posted above.
19:06.42TimRikerscgallafent, can we login locally anymore since the upgrade?
19:07.04scgallafentI haven't figured out the issues with the upgraded LDAP extension.
19:07.21scgallafentIt's on my list of things to tackle.
19:07.46scgallafentIt may be possible to go back to the old LDAP extension, but I haven't tested that yet.
19:07.55TimRikerk. I'll try adding WAM emulation a la swarm
19:08.26scgallafentThat would probably be best.
19:08.56scgallafentYou may just be able to use the existing AuthLDSAccountWAM extension.
19:09.37scgallafentScratch that -- need to inject the header values.
19:09.48scgallafentI'll stop trying to think about two things at once. :)
19:09.52TimRikerhehe
19:10.32scgallafentIt would be nice if we had something (other than WAMulator) that could just inject the headers into a local Apache instance.
19:10.44TimRikernods
19:14.56TimRikerSSO injects things like: policy-cn into headers. can we do something soon enough such that HTTP_* gets setup by apache? hmm. likely need proxy setup to really do that.
19:16.07scgallafentMaybe mod_env?
19:16.29TimRikerdunno
19:17.25TimRikerbut how to get apache to look things up on /header ?
19:17.38TimRikeris starving. food...
19:17.47scgallafentThat's where I'm hung up.
19:18.52TimRikeron food or lack of it? :)
19:19.18scgallafentGetting header values. I smell lunch cooking, so I know where food is.
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20:17.14TimRikerscgallafent, try that out for size. :)
20:17.37TimRikeradd this: $WAMEmulator='https://cdev.lds.org/header'; to LocalSettings.php
20:17.40scgallafentupdates
20:20.13scgallafentTimRiker, nice.
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21:12.05TimRikerscgallafent, did you get to the wall of shame yet?
21:12.15smootarJazzee8845, what's up?
21:12.29Jazzee8845how are you?
21:12.31scgallafentI looked at it the day you started on it. Haven't looked since. Anything new and exciting since?
21:13.04smootarDoing well, how about you?
21:18.33Jazzee8845good, i am ok thanks just getting over that i am now another year older :(
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