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14:33.21eldergunnhi all i was just wondering if there is anything that people need any help with i am currentky serving as a LDSTech missionary and help out on the LDSTech e-mails also help tom johnson as a project manger but if anyone else needs any help please e-mail me david.gunn@ldschurch.org or open a dialog box up and we can speak  i have a android smartphone a a very upto date pc if you need to know
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14:47.47smootareldergunn
14:47.53smootarI have something for you.
14:48.18smootarI will open a dialog and chat with you about it.
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14:57.01smootarcpitt, here is the "Joining User" bug: https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-724
14:57.31cpittok thanks
15:00.02ekeating~meetstart <LDSTech Dev Scrum>
15:00.02infobot********** Start of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.05.07 15:00:02 **********
15:00.05ekeatingGood morning, hope you had a good weekend
15:00.05ekeatingWho's onboard today (or who's awake)?
15:00.14cpittI'm here
15:00.23tdeforesthere
15:00.38smootarnods
15:00.58Jazzee8845me
15:01.48ekeatingHow did the post broadcast working session go last Friday?
15:01.59ekeatingWere there many volunteers able to come?
15:02.15scgallafentwaves
15:02.24scgallafentOne volunteer came: jdavid26
15:02.42Jazzee8845watched online
15:02.54ekeatingGlad he could make it.  Unfortunately it was short notice.
15:03.35ekeatingscgllafent, any updates on https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-531
15:03.47scgallafentLooking....
15:04.11scgallafentI worked on it a little bit Thursday, but spent most of Friday on Swarm.
15:04.15ekeatingWhile he's looking, anything to report cpitt?
15:04.26scgallafentI'm planning to spend tomorrow working through most of the issues.
15:04.54ekeatingdoes that include https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-712
15:05.10scgallafentYes. They're both related.
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15:05.18cpittworking on https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-724 hoping to get it all sorted out today, unfortunately I can't test locally so it's slow going
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15:05.52ekeatingdidn't realize they were related
15:06.11ekeatingor didn't remember...:)
15:06.17scgallafentThey don't depend on each other, but they're both getting done at the same time.
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15:06.39ekeatingDo you think they'll be done this week?
15:06.57scgallafentThat's the plan. I'm hoping to have them wrapped up by end of day Wednesday.
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15:08.28ekeatingSorry, got interupted by a phone call
15:08.39ekeatingtdefoerst, anything to report?
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15:09.20tdeforestswarm is wrapping up. we need to determine a release date. i need to hear from kevin on testing of the app.
15:09.36tdeforestI removed the text truncation due to an unresolved iOS on iPhone bug. I think we can release without this functionality and put it in a future sprint. ProKarma's work is ended and they have sent a form requesting feedback.
15:10.12tdeforestwe will have a feedback mtg with them sometime after TimRiker returns from a trip
15:10.35ekeatingany idea when Tim will return?
15:10.46tdeforestnet week
15:10.51tdeforestnext*
15:11.15ekeatingIs anyone working on https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-721?
15:11.16smootarnoticed that production has the "Beta" tag on SWARM. Was this pushed on Friday to production?
15:11.38scgallafentI can look at 721 while I'm working on the wiki.
15:12.05tdeforesthmmm…i don't remember pushing to production on Friday. scgallafent, did Tim push it out?
15:12.14scgallafentHe must have, but I don't know when.
15:12.31ekeatingThat's a lot for you to do.  Anyone wnat to help scgallafent?
15:12.31scgallafentI don't have admin access sorted out yet, so I can't get to the server and look to see when it was updated.
15:12.42tdeforestk
15:13.10smootarKFitz, needs to give the nod before we push to production.
15:13.35tdeforestk
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15:13.53ekeatingKFitz are you aware that it was pushed?
15:13.56KFitzsorry I was on the phone... does anyone know if Steve or Tim fixed the Joomla integration proboems
15:14.08KFitzproblems that is
15:14.15scgallafentcpitt, has been working on those. Getting more than his feet wet! :)
15:14.24KFitzthat was the last holdout for swarm
15:14.32smootarhttps://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-724
15:14.42smootarThat is the one.
15:15.24KFitzyup
15:15.35ekeatinghere's cpitt's report
15:15.37ekeatingworking on https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-724 hoping to get it all sorted out today, unfortunately I can't test locally so it's slow going
15:16.04scgallafentWe'll need to update Joomla once cpitt is done in order to deploy that fix.
15:16.33FullmerCB_can that joomla update be included in our 2.6.4 release?
15:16.40FullmerCB_(the media wiki and omniture release)?
15:16.43scgallafentProbably not.
15:17.02tdeforestscgallafent, by update you mean change the version or release to production?
15:17.11scgallafentRelease to production.
15:17.35scgallafentWe probably ought to release that as a minor update: 2.6.3.1.2.6.1 or someting.
15:17.47tdeforestlol
15:17.48smootar:)
15:18.13scgallafentThe MediaWiki and Joomla code don't overlap.
15:18.38scgallafentOnce cpitt is done and jdavid26 has stabilized the visual changes he was working on Friday, we could update Joomla to get that fix in for Swarm.
15:18.46scgallafents/on/on on/
15:19.06scgallafentinfobot only thinks it knows what I meant.
15:19.23KFitzI'll be done testing Swarm by noon today
15:19.48FullmerCB_infobot needs to learn how to spell "done"
15:20.09ekeatingWe only have the three issues in 2.6.4:  531, 712 and 721. It would be nice to be able to release 2.6.4 this week
15:20.22tdeforestKFitz, ok.
15:20.24ekeatingany possibility?
15:20.38FullmerCB_thursday was our target as of last Wed
15:20.41scgallafentThat's what I'm working toward.
15:20.42tdeforestit would be nice to roll out the joomla update this week too so we can release swarm
15:20.42FullmerCB_still possible?
15:21.40scgallafentMy only hesitation on that is that it's a big upgrade and it would be nice to have TimRiker around.
15:22.11FullmerCB_he's back next Mon?
15:22.12scgallafentI'll have the process documented and tested, but Tim has more experience with these servers than I do.
15:22.31tdeforestscgallafent, ok. let's discuss more after the mtg
15:22.34scgallafentI'd hate to break something because there were some things I haven't had time to discover.
15:23.10KFitzI agree with Steve
15:23.49ekeatingOkay, lets wait until next Monday to release (or Tuesday depending on how long it takes Tim to get up to speed)
15:24.05tdeforestk
15:24.09scgallafentThe Joomla update doesn't give me as much concern. We could potentially make that change later this week to move Swarm forward.
15:24.12smootarI wonder if TimRiker may be available for consultation online Wednesday or Thursday.
15:24.41smootarCurrently the only change we are waiting for is in Joomla, not in SWARM.
15:24.46scgallafentCorrect.
15:24.52smootarI wonder if that is why TimRiker pushed SWARM out to production.
15:25.01scgallafentThe Joomla change resolves the major Swarm issue.
15:25.23scgallafentShould I send an email and ask?
15:25.40smootarI'll try calling him and see.
15:26.08FullmerCB_I can check with him Alan if you'd like
15:26.19smootarFullmerCB_, sure go ahead.
15:26.26FullmerCB_OK -
15:26.28FullmerCB_so, Steve,
15:26.35ekeatingAhh it's nice to be wanted
15:26.51FullmerCB_will we be ready by this Thurs to release 2.6.4 if Tim can help?
15:27.12FullmerCB_And, sometime before that, we'll push a minor release with the Joomla fix for the swarm issue?
15:27.19FullmerCB_or is that too much in 4 days?
15:27.22scgallafentI think we could be, but my opinion is that we ought to wait until Monday even if Tim was available.
15:27.50FullmerCB_ok - let's talk offline & firm it up
15:27.58ekeatingFullnercb, when do you want to meet to set up the next sprint?
15:28.17ekeatingWill we need Tim for that/
15:28.26FullmerCB_Once we know when we'll be releasing 2.6.4, we'll set up the next sprint planning meeting for a day or two after
15:29.22smootarI would hate to wait until Monday to put in a fix that may be testable today sometime.
15:29.51FullmerCB_we're talking about 2 releases
15:30.07FullmerCB_I'll get with Steve & Kfitz after this IRC mtg to plan the first ... the small one that is ready
15:30.13scgallafentI'm not so concerned about the Joomla release (for Swarm).
15:30.22smootarYes, the SWARM integration is the only one I'm talking about.
15:30.24smootar:)
15:30.28scgallafentI just don't feel comfortable making the wiki upgrade alone.
15:30.37smootarnods about wiki.
15:30.49FullmerCB_right - so, we're all agreed that we'll do the small joomla release today or tomorrow, right?
15:30.58smootaryes, sorry
15:31.06tdeforestiz good
15:31.07scgallafentAs soon as cpitt and jdavid26 are ready.
15:31.08FullmerCB_Steve/Kevin?
15:31.14FullmerCB_right
15:31.26smootarKFitz, for Kevin
15:31.27scgallafentjdavid26 is in the middle of some minor visual changes. tdeforest, can you check with him today and see if he made any progress over the weekend.
15:31.57smootarnotes that using their username notifies users in their client.
15:31.59tdeforestscgallafent, i'll talk to him.
15:32.04scgallafentrealizes he forgot to use a question mark again
15:32.09scgallafentOK.
15:32.17scgallafentJust to clarify:
15:32.30FullmerCB_right - forgot- start typing their name & hit tab - thx for the remidner
15:32.45scgallafentOnce cpitt has beaten the Joomla/Swarm interaction into submission and we've stabilized any visual work going on, we'll release Joomla.
15:33.06tdeforestscgallafent, perfect
15:33.10scgallafentI'm going to finish documenting and testing the upgrade procedure for the wiki along with new features and then we'll push that at the beginning of the week.
15:33.13cpittIt's going to take a good beating that's for sure
15:33.14cpitt:P
15:33.31FullmerCB_right - we're on the same page now
15:33.32cpittgets out his war hammer
15:33.59smootar:)
15:34.12ekeatingSounds like you have your work cut out for you today  :)
15:34.40ekeatingIf there is nothing else, we'll end this meeting so you can get started.
15:34.52FullmerCB_yep - we're overtime
15:34.58ekeating~meetend <LDSTech Dev Scrum>
15:34.58infobot********** End of the <LDSTech Dev Scrum> Meeting on 2012.05.07 15:34:58 **********
15:35.09ekeatingThank you everyone
15:37.13ekeatingFullmerCB_, I guess I don't understand why the events have to be serial.
15:37.13ekeatingIf everything has been checked out by Thur. and all we're waiting on is Tim's help to implement
15:37.13ekeatingIt seems like we can schedule a meeting for Tue/Wed next week.
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15:40.57scgallafentekeating, we only have one code base, so we can't be making active changes while preparing for a release.
15:42.05ekeatingThanks.  that makes more sense.  I guess I'm too use to trying to multitask (although I've never been very good at it)
15:43.19scgallafentheads offline for a bit.
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16:19.14tdeforestsmootar, i've got a few mobile devices over here for testing, in case you're looking for them
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16:40.49cpittjust a heads up since I can't test swarm integration locally I may intermittently break the projects page
16:53.16tdeforestcpitt, gotta love developing in the test environment :)
16:54.21cpitthehe, it's somewhat intimidating because there is a log of every little mistake I make :P
16:54.28smootartdeforest, thanks.  Don't lose them.
16:54.30tdeforesti'd like to fix this problem for the next sprint. we should provide an alternate sign-in method and enable our local environment to connect to the test Jira on cdev
16:55.03tdeforestnods at smootar
16:55.46smootar~seen scgallafent
16:55.57infobotscgallafent <~scgallafe@184-155-119-217.cpe.cableone.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #ldstech, 1h 15m ago, saying: 'ekeating, we only have one code base, so we can't be making active changes while preparing for a release.'.
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17:24.54smootarFire alarm in the ROB, stepping out of the building.
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17:37.08Jazzee8845ok
17:37.25Jazzee8845hops everything is ok
17:41.36smootarWe are back, but we don't know what the alarm was about.
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19:12.45josephscottprokarma leaving swarm?
19:14.09tdeforestjosephscott, i'm helping them out the door…i figure since we have concluded their part in the project, they will no longer wish to get email from the list
19:14.25josephscottgotcha
19:15.06tdeforesti think that's the last one
19:16.23josephscottmini-flood of team member updates :-)
19:17.23tdeforestnow to check that they were actually removed...
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