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| 14:21.28 | tccastaldo | yawns |
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| 15:00.02 | scgallafent | Looks like the IRC i-line is still in place. |
| 15:00.23 | tccastaldo | Yep. |
| 15:00.24 | fullmercb | Hey |
| 15:00.25 | tccastaldo | I |
| 15:00.34 | tccastaldo | 'm here, by the way. |
| 15:00.46 | tccastaldo | tdeforest, are you going to conduct? |
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| 15:02.03 | tccastaldo | ~meetstart LDSTech |
| 15:02.03 | infobot | ********** Start of the LDSTech Meeting on 2012.04.06 15:02:03 ********** |
| 15:02.19 | tccastaldo | I guess I can conduct. |
| 15:02.24 | tccastaldo | Who's all here? |
| 15:02.32 | scgallafent | is here |
| 15:02.39 | tdeforest | go ahead tccastaldo |
| 15:02.51 | tccastaldo | sees TimRiker setting up |
| 15:02.55 | tccastaldo | Anyone else? |
| 15:03.03 | fullmercb | me |
| 15:03.07 | zakzakattack | here! |
| 15:03.12 | tccastaldo | :) |
| 15:03.26 | tccastaldo | If anyone else wants time, please let me know. |
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| 15:03.45 | tccastaldo | I guess I'll go first to give the copy+pasters time to type. |
| 15:03.59 | tccastaldo | I've been working on my favorite project. |
| 15:04.06 | scgallafent | cheers for Scheduler! |
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| 15:04.35 | TimRiker | sry, laptop freaking out again. |
| 15:04.40 | tccastaldo | The "Asynchronous" part of AJAX threw a wrench in the works that I'm still trying to extricate. |
| 15:04.48 | jdavid26 | good morning |
| 15:05.07 | tccastaldo | I'm really hoping to be done with the project by the end of the week. |
| 15:05.10 | TimRiker | tccastaldo, around what features? |
| 15:05.32 | tccastaldo | Viewing feedback. |
| 15:05.41 | fullmercb | still in scheduler? |
| 15:05.45 | tccastaldo | Yes. |
| 15:05.51 | tdeforest | jdavid26, morning |
| 15:05.59 | TimRiker | spent most of the night online with network support people trying to mitigate the denial of service attack against his home internet connection. |
| 15:06.15 | tccastaldo | Yuck, TimRiker. |
| 15:06.35 | fullmercb | Wow Tim - a targeted attack by someone w/a grudge? |
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| 15:07.12 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:07.40 | tccastaldo | Suffice it to say that the code is running "out of order" and all I can do is work around it. |
| 15:07.55 | tccastaldo | I'm sorry, TimRiker. That really is awful. |
| 15:08.06 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.07 | tdeforest | that sounds terrible |
| 15:08.21 | tccastaldo | Anyway, you all know what I'm going to be beating on today. |
| 15:08.36 | fullmercb | Tim: all right, I admit it, it was me: programmed all of the PS3's in the western united states to attack you all at once - it was really elegant, don't you think? |
| 15:08.43 | tccastaldo | scgallafent, are you ready? |
| 15:08.46 | TimRiker | tccastaldo, can't capture one ajax request inside the handler for the previous so they are executed in order? |
| 15:09.02 | scgallafent | Standing by.... |
| 15:09.06 | TimRiker | fullmercb, ah ha! I suspected as much. :) |
| 15:09.16 | tccastaldo | TimRiker, I'll look into that. That's a good idea. |
| 15:09.39 | scgallafent | Ready? |
| 15:09.45 | TimRiker | scgallafent, hit us |
| 15:09.47 | scgallafent | I spent yesterday working at the ROB. |
| 15:09.47 | scgallafent | I reviewed code committed since the conference and sent emails to all of the developers who came to the project sessions at the conference. |
| 15:09.47 | scgallafent | We have a couple of new developers who have been doing some really good work. |
| 15:09.47 | scgallafent | I handed the "old" BYU-developed RecProp site off to a Java developer I talked with at the conference who is going to address some of the security vulnerabilities in that site while the new site goes through its transition. |
| 15:09.47 | scgallafent | I've also been working on some CPAS updates. |
| 15:09.48 | scgallafent | More of the same today. |
| 15:10.39 | tdeforest | "transition"? |
| 15:10.41 | TimRiker | the old byu site is in java? or is this a rewrite? |
| 15:10.49 | scgallafent | Old BYU site is in Java. |
| 15:10.59 | tccastaldo | Really? |
| 15:11.02 | scgallafent | It's about six years old and has some nasty SQL injection vulnerabilities. |
| 15:11.13 | TimRiker | so they are punting on the new site and planning to sustain the old one now? |
| 15:11.26 | scgallafent | The instances (there are five) have been getting hit one at a time, but the users need them for scheduling. |
| 15:11.42 | scgallafent | This will keep that site running while the Church figures out the long-term plan for the new site. |
| 15:11.52 | scgallafent | We should have a replacement for the community site within a couple of weeks. |
| 15:12.12 | TimRiker | do they have svn etc? as far as I'm concerned, they could check the site into recprop svn as a branch. or even setup a new project for the old site. |
| 15:12.35 | scgallafent | No. It's not being maintained. We're basically providing some one-time support to keep it running. |
| 15:12.58 | TimRiker | even one-time support is easier with version control. :) |
| 15:13.01 | tdeforest | i don't understand what is happening with the new recprop. i thought it was dead. |
| 15:13.16 | scgallafent | It's no longer a community project, but there still has to be some kind of solution. |
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| 15:13.20 | macnewbold | too |
| 15:14.08 | tdeforest | scgallafent, so are they reusing recprop code or throwing it out? |
| 15:14.12 | TimRiker | tries to work on the Piñata Principle™ |
| 15:14.15 | scgallafent | I've got the old BYU code in my personal svn repository because I was doing some work on it. TimRiker's statement is true. |
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| 15:14.28 | scgallafent | Existing recprop code will be discarded at some point. |
| 15:14.50 | tccastaldo | thinks TimRiker sould register that trademark |
| 15:15.06 | tccastaldo | Anything else, scgallafent? |
| 15:15.11 | scgallafent | That's it for me. |
| 15:15.12 | TimRiker | Firefox can't find the server at www.pinataprinciple.com |
| 15:15.40 | tccastaldo | Okay...TimRiker? Are you ready to report? |
| 15:16.04 | TimRiker | sure. very tired. :/ |
| 15:16.29 | tccastaldo | I think Piñata Principle is run by a NPO. |
| 15:16.36 | tccastaldo | :( |
| 15:16.45 | TimRiker | trying to work with the WAM folks on getting more headers displayed in cdev. They are asking "tell me exactly which headers you need". |
| 15:17.15 | TimRiker | my original request: "I need all WAM headers enabled for all sites on cdev." |
| 15:17.38 | TimRiker | Firefox can't find the server at www.pinataprinciple.org |
| 15:17.54 | TimRiker | svnrm integration needs a redesign. |
| 15:18.01 | TimRiker | here's the current: |
| 15:18.05 | scgallafent | pinatapriciple.org is not registered |
| 15:18.25 | tccastaldo | That's because it's misspelled, scgallafent. ;) |
| 15:18.37 | TimRiker | svnrm _only_ uses the current ObSSOCookie for the current logged in user. |
| 15:18.49 | TimRiker | ~nslookup pinataprinciple.org |
| 15:18.49 | scgallafent | Only on IRC. Correct in my other window. :) |
| 15:19.14 | TimRiker | the current logged in user can not ask questions about other users. ie: |
| 15:19.20 | scgallafent | Does the ObSSOCookie not give us enough keys to the kingdom? |
| 15:19.26 | TimRiker | jadmin can't say: "show me the projects for pholder" |
| 15:20.24 | tccastaldo | ? |
| 15:20.30 | TimRiker | if the joomla admin is NOT a full svnrm admin, then he can't see all projects in svnrm. in fact, even if he _is_ a full svnrm admin, he can hide projects from himself. |
| 15:20.41 | tccastaldo | Wow. |
| 15:21.03 | TimRiker | so then he can't admin those projects, even to restore his own rights. |
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| 15:21.34 | TimRiker | it's just not going to work the way it's designed now. |
| 15:21.42 | fullmercb | who designed it? |
| 15:22.02 | fullmercb | or - who can redesign it? |
| 15:22.30 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:23.01 | TimRiker | at this point I'm thinking we should re-implement svnrm in php rather than trying to fix it. |
| 15:23.05 | tccastaldo | notes there are only 8 minutes left. |
| 15:23.28 | TimRiker | all it does is rewrite the apache access file |
| 15:23.54 | scgallafent | Sounds like we need to spec a new project. |
| 15:24.00 | TimRiker | nods |
| 15:24.09 | TimRiker | scgallafent, where are you today? |
| 15:24.10 | fullmercb | Can I go? |
| 15:24.15 | scgallafent | Pocatello. |
| 15:24.17 | TimRiker | yep, I'm done |
| 15:24.19 | tccastaldo | Yes, fullmercb. |
| 15:24.22 | fullmercb | Today will work on strategy for moving our 150 potential CSMs forward towards calls & finding matching assignments for them in ICS - Will also prep my suggestions for our program evolution (raising the bar) discussion on Monday’s offsite. |
| 15:24.40 | scgallafent | notes that the Monday offsite may be a Tuesday offsite |
| 15:24.40 | fullmercb | Still not sure how best to run scrums for our volunteers & internal devs (i.e. 2 different teams, 1 team/scrum for silicon valley with 1 evening scrum per week, and another team/scrum for our internal devs + other community devs with 1-2 morning scrums/week that are separate from this meeting???). |
| 15:24.50 | fullmercb | Why? |
| 15:25.10 | scgallafent | smootar called me this morning. It sounds like John E may have conflicts on Monday. Should know later today. |
| 15:25.11 | fullmercb | Why Steve? |
| 15:25.17 | fullmercb | ahh |
| 15:25.19 | fullmercb | thx |
| 15:25.21 | fullmercb | I’m eager to get Tim, Steve, Tom, and Tyler working under a more scrum-like approach on a Jira version of their own (with some community devs from the conference ) after our offsite |
| 15:25.31 | fullmercb | Need Tim & Alan and Steve & Tom to weigh in on that question on Monday |
| 15:25.36 | fullmercb | That’s it for me |
| 15:25.39 | tccastaldo | Hmmm. |
| 15:25.44 | tccastaldo | Okay, thanks fullmercb. |
| 15:25.49 | tccastaldo | zakzakattack? |
| 15:26.21 | zakzakattack | just working on testcases and stuff |
| 15:26.27 | tccastaldo | For? |
| 15:26.38 | zakzakattack | cleaning out my email too. for LDStech |
| 15:26.46 | tccastaldo | Ah. Okay. |
| 15:26.47 | TimRiker | fullmercb, "jira version of their own"? |
| 15:27.00 | tccastaldo | Thanks. tdeforest? |
| 15:27.10 | tccastaldo | almost forgot about tdeforest |
| 15:27.24 | tdeforest | working on info graphic for smootar's mtg next week |
| 15:27.33 | tccastaldo | :) |
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| 15:27.45 | tccastaldo | I'm excited to see that. |
| 15:27.52 | tccastaldo | Anything else? |
| 15:28.10 | fullmercb | I think we need to run it as 2 separate teams working on 2 separate Jira versions ... one team in Silicon Valley, and 1 other team comprising our internal devs and the new devs from teh conference |
| 15:28.14 | tdeforest | will also work on mockup for silicon valley chapter |
| 15:28.41 | tccastaldo | Cool. |
| 15:28.47 | scgallafent | That could make keeping track of releases a nightmare. |
| 15:29.08 | tccastaldo | Anything else from tdeforest before I let JoshBang report? |
| 15:29.09 | fullmercb | I'm hoping Steve can help be lead dev for the Silicon Valley chapter - unless it works better for Tim to help in the evenings to get the Sil Val guys up to speed & help with an evening scrum each week? |
| 15:29.10 | TimRiker | fullmercb, how will we keep from stepping on each other if we don't talk to each other? |
| 15:29.17 | tdeforest | done |
| 15:29.25 | tccastaldo | Go ahead, JoshBang. |
| 15:29.28 | JoshBang | I have been gathering community contribution hours and helping to close some bugs on LDSTech. |
| 15:29.33 | JoshBang | Thats it for me |
| 15:29.53 | fullmercb | May not be the best way to do it, .... need your feedback Tim .... but if we ran 2 teams, we'd have them working on unrelated tasks |
| 15:30.04 | tccastaldo | Cool. Thanks for your efforts! Sounds like community contribution was way up over the past week. |
| 15:30.12 | tccastaldo | Did I miss anyone? |
| 15:30.18 | JoshBang | Oh yeah, by about 300 hours |
| 15:30.23 | tccastaldo | :) |
| 15:30.31 | TimRiker | JoshBang, woot! :) |
| 15:30.42 | tccastaldo | Last call for daily reports! |
| 15:30.50 | tccastaldo | Going once... |
| 15:30.51 | JoshBang | There are still a couple peop;e that I need to get a hold of |
| 15:30.57 | tccastaldo | ...going twice... |
| 15:31.07 | tccastaldo | ~meetend LDSTech |
| 15:31.07 | infobot | ********** End of the LDSTech Meeting on 2012.04.06 15:31:07 ********** |
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| 15:31.30 | tccastaldo | Thanks, everyone, for your hard work. |
| 15:31.58 | tccastaldo | jdavid26, do you know about our daily LDSTech Meeting here on the IRC channel? |
| 15:33.48 | jdavid26 | no |
| 15:35.29 | scgallafent | jdavid26, we have a morning meeting here at 9am Mountain Time on every weekday except Tuesday. |
| 15:35.34 | tccastaldo | Every Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, we hold a meeting from 9:00-9:30 a.m. |
| 15:35.39 | scgallafent | Go ahead tccastaldo. |
| 15:35.45 | tccastaldo | MDT. |
| 15:36.04 | tccastaldo | types slower than scgallafent |
| 15:36.27 | tccastaldo | Mountain Time is more accurate. |
| 15:36.44 | tccastaldo | Anyway, it's a time for those working on LDSTech projects to report on what they've been doing. |
| 15:37.33 | tccastaldo | We use it as a staff meeting, but since the channel is public, the meeting is also open. |
| 15:37.57 | tccastaldo | If you want to report on anything you've been working on, go ahead and ask for some time in that meeting. |
| 15:38.18 | jdavid26 | Sweet |
| 15:38.20 | tccastaldo | I would've asked you today, except that we were running short on time. |
| 15:38.44 | tccastaldo | That also explains why no one responded right away when you signed on. |
| 15:39.14 | jdavid26 | I was watching while I worked on the Wiki 1.18.2 setup and skin |
| 15:39.20 | tccastaldo | We don't hold the meetings on Tuesday because we have a staff devotional here in the building. |
| 15:39.31 | tccastaldo | Oh, okay. How's that going? |
| 15:40.29 | jdavid26 | Pretty good. It's all setup and ready to start the real work. I'm sure I will have some questions. |
| 15:40.42 | scgallafent | Have you been able to get the skin files I sent you working? |
| 15:41.28 | jdavid26 | scgallafent, Yes. |
| 15:41.53 | scgallafent | Now you get to put your CSS wizardy to the problem! |
| 15:42.05 | jdavid26 | If there are changes outside of the skin files, should I hold off on those? |
| 15:42.44 | scgallafent | Yes. That creates issues with upgrades. In theory, you're supposed to be able to do everything with the design from just the skin files. |
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| 15:43.09 | tdeforest | agrees with scgallafent |
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| 15:50.30 | macnewbold | ~recprop |
| 16:03.35 | TimRiker | ~recprop is mostly dead |
| 16:03.35 | infobot | TimRiker: okay |
| 16:03.56 | tccastaldo | LOL |
| 16:04.01 | tccastaldo | ~recprop? |
| 16:04.01 | infobot | extra, extra, read all about it, recprop is mostly dead |
| 16:04.04 | macnewbold | ~mourn recprop |
| 16:04.04 | infobot | ACTION lights some candles for recprop |
| 16:04.25 | macnewbold | so will the community-built recprop site ever see the light of day? |
| 16:04.51 | TimRiker | macnewbold, that decision is above any of our pay grades |
| 16:05.03 | macnewbold | :( |
| 16:05.22 | macnewbold | ~8ball will the community-built recprop site ever see the light of day? |
| 16:05.22 | infobot | I'm not sure. |
| 16:08.53 | tccastaldo | Moving some AJAX requests inside others did the trick. Thanks, TimRiker! |
| 16:12.27 | TimRiker | tccastaldo, :) |
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| 16:12.51 | tccastaldo | ~TimRiker++ |
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| 16:33.01 | TimRiker | scgallafent, are we ready to migrate old ggs? |
| 16:33.29 | scgallafent | I think so. I ran some tests and was going to use Tom Johnson's group as the guinea pig and this conference thingy got in the way. |
| 16:34.03 | scgallafent | I'll pull the content for Tom's group again and have him look it over. |
| 16:36.35 | TimRiker | k |
| 16:37.12 | TimRiker | do any of our tools detect members in a GG that are not members in joomla? |
| 16:41.45 | scgallafent | TimRiker: I've got one in JIRA and have some code that will go into it, but nothing ready for production. |
| 16:42.42 | scgallafent | I need to dig into Joomla and email addresses. I've run into two situations where someone wanted to use a different email address than their LDS Account. |
| 16:56.34 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.32 | scgallafent | TimRiker, it should change it automatically. There is code in there that catches the email address change. |
| 17:02.54 | scgallafent | I mean, if you change in Joomla, GGroups is updated. |
| 17:03.05 | TimRiker | catch a change on the gg site? or a change on the joomla site? I was asking about a change on the gg site. |
| 17:03.32 | scgallafent | If it's change on GGroups, joomla doesn't know anything about it and it appears to be an address that doesn't belong. |
| 17:03.38 | scgallafent | s/change/changed/ |
| 17:05.17 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.53 | TimRiker | er that's arthur-dent-announce I changed. |
| 17:05.58 | scgallafent | There is probably another user subscribed that uses timriker@ldscurch.org as the email address. |
| 17:06.12 | scgallafent | That would be an issue with our current test data. |
| 17:06.39 | TimRiker | when I login in as jadmin on cdev, and use the groups tab, it shows that I'm subscribed. |
| 17:07.28 | scgallafent | It checks to see if you're subscribed by checking to see if your email address is a member of the group. |
| 17:07.33 | scgallafent | Hold on... logging into cdev. |
| 17:07.50 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.43 | scgallafent | arthur-dent-announce, right? |
| 17:08.53 | TimRiker | yes |
| 17:10.27 | scgallafent | Is timriker@ldschurch.org associated with a Google account: |
| 17:10.32 | scgallafent | s/account:/account?/ |
| 17:10.41 | TimRiker | the new groups web interface allows an admin to change delivery options for other members.... |
| 17:10.52 | TimRiker | tried to keep his other email from the logs..... |
| 17:11.04 | scgallafent | Yes. That's actually been there for a while. |
| 17:11.17 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.56 | TimRiker | messages starting with a space, are not logged. spacing in any thing with an email address is a Good Idea. |
| 17:12.00 | scgallafent | I suspect Google sees them as being the same account and returns a common list of groups. |
| 17:12.10 | TimRiker | neato |
| 17:12.26 | scgallafent | Until you start trying to troubleshoot |
| 17:12.31 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 17:12.50 | scgallafent | Even better is Google's +extension addressing feature. We have a workaround specifically for that. |
| 17:14.31 | scgallafent | See https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTECH-623. That was a joy to deal with, although it was interesting to look at my phone and see a call coming from "Google Inc." |
| 17:14.38 | TimRiker | how will we confirm membership? we can get all joomla users and verify each one in the group. but then if there are more group members than joomla members we really have no idea which ones are the extra ones, right? |
| 17:15.29 | scgallafent | The only thing we can do is to pull a list of all users in the group and then compare against Joomla. |
| 17:15.45 | scgallafent | Anything on the GGroups list but not on the Joomla list is suspect. |
| 17:17.33 | TimRiker | but only suspect. not decisive as they can change their subscription email address. |
| 17:18.30 | TimRiker | do we try to change the subscribed email address in GG if/when the user changes email address in joomla? that may or may not be what they want us to do. |
| 17:18.35 | scgallafent | Correct. Unfortunately, it's the best we can do unless we want to get really creative. |
| 17:19.36 | scgallafent | We could take the Joomla addresses that don't resolve, add them temporarily, and see if the list doesn't change. That may tell us that the Joomla address is using an associated address. |
| 17:19.42 | TimRiker | we may want to ask for and record a users gmail account name separately. |
| 17:20.08 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:20.17 | scgallafent | We could also remove the suspect addresses and then check to see how that affect Joomla users. |
| 17:20.28 | scgallafent | Right now we changed the subscribed address if the user changes it in Joomla. |
| 17:20.46 | TimRiker | course that would prevent me from signing up multiple test users with my one google account which I do now. |
| 17:20.55 | scgallafent | It doesn't necessarily have to be a gmail account name. Google Apps complicates the problem. |
| 17:21.15 | scgallafent | Correct on the multiple users with one Google account. |
| 17:22.27 | scgallafent | We also have the problem of users who have a personal email address in their LDSAccount and want to use a different address to subscribe to GGroups. |
| 17:22.42 | scgallafent | That's where I need to dig into how we handle that association between Joomla and LDS Account. |
| 17:24.14 | scgallafent | Holy smokes! The default Cyanogenmod voicemail notification ... gets your attention. |
| 17:26.21 | tccastaldo | ?! |
| 17:28.11 | scgallafent | It's a pretty wild drum riff that ran at least 15 seconds. |
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| 17:28.43 | tccastaldo | Nice. |
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| 18:06.35 | Test_ | hello |
| 18:07.00 | Test_ | TimRiker: beep? |
| 18:07.18 | tccastaldo | Hello, Test_. |
| 18:07.25 | tccastaldo | How are you? |
| 18:07.34 | Test_ | fine fine |
| 18:11.39 | TimRiker | ~x en fr hello world |
| 18:11.53 | TimRiker | ~x en zh hello world |
| 18:12.32 | TimRiker | ~x en es doesn't this work |
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| 18:36.31 | tccastaldo | Let's see if I can spell "equals" today... |
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| 20:19.41 | TimRiker | ~convert 60mm to inches |
| 20:19.51 | TimRiker | ~convert 60cm to inches |
| 20:40.27 | macnewbold | wow, that's like exactly 10x bigger! |
| 20:41.02 | tccastaldo | Funny how the metric system works. |
| 20:41.18 | macnewbold | funnier how the english system works |
| 20:42.09 | tccastaldo | 12 divides better than 10. |
| 20:44.23 | tccastaldo | Everything else is just a power of two greater than the unit before it. |
| 20:44.39 | tccastaldo | Except for the yard. |